A show about putting on a show about putting on a show about putting on a show… *echoes into infinity*
The Other Kevin
If the Mickey Rooney character is played by SugarFree, and he writes the show, I think I’ll pass. And good luck finding anyone to act in it.
Zero Sum Game
I’m writing a Broadway musical called Pissgate. It’s about an orange man with tiny hands who challenges the world and beats the odds, but loses it all when it’s discovered he hired two prostitutes to urinate on a bed once slept in by the guy whose job he got. It ends with the line The Aristocrats!, to tie it to the storied, venerable edifice of Broadway.
MikeS
The Aristocrats!
That documentary (or whatever it would classified as) is one of the funniest things I have ever watched.
trshmnstr
+15 old naked Congresspeople and a pair of uncooperative moobs.
F. Stupidity Jr.
I call the interpretive dance part!
This Machine
Damn, (((Renegade))), you are old, man.
Old Man With Candy
116 next week. But I still have a raging (((boner))).
The ,”Six-Million Dollar Bris? Or, Dearth Prepuce?
SugarFree
We have the technology. We can re-engorge him.
Ted S.
BTW: Doesn’t the bit you posted continue with a musical number that includes burning books on a bonfire?
Babes in Arms also has Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland in blackface, as well as a number in which they do Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt. And the movie also introduced the song “Good Morning”. When lyricist Arthur Freed wanted to reuse his old songs for a new movie in 1952, he brought in Betty Comden and Adolph Green, who came up with the movie Singin’ in the Rain — I believe there’s not one original song in the latter movie.
Raven Nation
First comment is not a happy one: at the site not to be named, they’re announcing 2chilli has passed.
Raven Nation
OK, I’m stupid. It’s 2chilli’s dad.
Rev. Blue Moon
The guy who wrote, “It Usually Begins with Ayn Rand”?
I just noticed that on my Chrome home page, this site has replaced the old orange site in the shortcuts.
I really like what you guys are doing here. Keep up the good work.
Old Man With Candy
Seriously, this is more than a little bit scary.
Rev. Blue Moon
I am enjoying it myself. Just curious, did anything precipitate a break with Site Which Shall Not Be Named?
This Machine
I think it was a myriad of confounding factors. I took a break for a couple months, starting around the holidays, and when I came back, the joint just wasn’t the same anymore. There was a discussion about it, I think, in yesterday’s afternoon links.
Banjos
It was primarily the decline in writing, but the final straw was them refusing to write an article about sloopy’s mom getting body slammed by the police.
Brawndo
Did anything ever get resolved regarding that? I remember hearing about it, but didn’t see any follow up.
Old Man With Candy
In the works.
The Other Kevin
You’ve already solved two big problems for me. First, there are fewer daily posts, and they are all original, so I don’t have to scroll through 10 takes on the same subject. And second, there are fewer comments, because there isn’t any bickering back and forth with trolls. I like to read this stuff but I don’t have all day to scroll through bullshit.
Gojira
As soon as we can get dajjal, John, and Hugh Akston to show up to start yanking each other’s tails, we’ll have really arrived.
Chipwooder
Don’t forget Tulpa, I mean, chemjeff
JW
So, what you’re saying is that you need more screeching about Trump here?
DOOMco
lots. 24/7. there is nothing else.
The Other Kevin
Yes, exactly. I guess there was some kind of Trump press conference recently. So I expect every contributor to write at least 2 posts about it, all on the same day, then do it again next week.
JW
Got it.
***yells to kitchen*** I GOT AN ORDER FOR 6 HAT AND HAIR AND 2 MORE IVANKGINAS!
waffles
For me it was always about the community, pseudo-anonymity notwithstanding. When what-shall-not-be-named made it fairly clear they don’t give a shit about their longstanding peanut gallery the choice what obvious. Bravo, great, work, keep it up.
sssbobbyr
I was a long time lurker, 12 years, rare commenter. This new site is terrific work. Thanks to all.
Rufus the Monocled
Man, you even look like a libertarian.
Lord Humungus
Just wait until my daily column starts: Livin’ Libertarian in a Dystopian Wasteland
Heroic Mulatto
Shouldn’t that column belong to Detroit Linguist and EdWuncler?
Juvenile Bluster
For several years, when I opened Firefox it would load 3 tabs: H&R, Reddit and Twitter. Decided this morning to switch out the H&R tab for this place (even though I still will occasionally check in over there).
This place feels like what H&R used to when I started there in ’06 or ’07. I like that.
waffles
I started in ’07 too. Giving me them feels.
Gojira
It doesn’t feel like that at all to me. It feels like something I can’t link to because it’s firewalled for me here at work and there’s a NSFW policy on photos & .gifs.
Rufus the Monocled
Judy Garland.
Would have.
This Machine
*nods perhaps a little too aggressively*
Juvenile Bluster
She was what… probably 16 or 17 when this movie came out? Movie’s from the late 30s, she was born… early 20s?
Anyways, yes. Definitely would have.
Ted S.
She was born in June 1922. The movie (Babes in Arms) came out in 1939, but I’d have to look up the month.
Brawndo
If TMZ is to be believed or one of those gossipy outlets, the oompa loompas or munchkins or whatever the hell those midgets in wizard of oz are, did.
Rufus the Monocled
“They were the residents of the surreal world of Munchkinland in The Wizard of Oz , but behind the scenes the adult dwarf actors were hard-drinking, sex-mad hellraisers.”
One of the Munchkins wound up driving the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile.
Dr. Fronkensteen
It will be interesting to see how long this will go on. The fact is that no one is getting paid to do this and that tends to put a sell by date on these kinds of things. See garage bands.
trshmnstr
There are avenues for income, and they don’t necessarily have to require ads or subscriber fees. First, though, is to establish a consistent presence and a readership base.
Heroic Mulatto
The fact is that no one is getting paid to do this
That’s an unwarranted assumption.
Zero Sum Game
I’m not sure it’s the “not paid” part that might doom it eventually. There’s a distinct lack of a tone. The precedent is obviously “irreverence”, but even irreverent publications try to follow an established style and tone. Huffingglue is mostly unpaid authors turning out drivel, but there’s editorial review so it least what’s slopped in the trough is about the same consistency as what was slopped in there yesterday.
One format I rarely see anymore that I think would be good for some recurring articles, given the cat-herding exercise that nailing down “libertarian” ideas tends to be, is point-counterpoint. Structured articles where two authors pick a different side, research it, philosophize about it, and try their damnedest to convince a readership from their own soapbox. That seems more intellectually honest than that other site’s clear biases showing in everything that goes out.
DOOMco
not a bad plan.
waffles
That kind of content would be terrific especially if preceded by an in-depth woodchipper review.
Rufus the Monocled
PAY ME MY LIVING WAGE OR I’M OUT.
Sour Kraut
*creates fully automated Rufus using deep learning algorithms*
Aboot and reboot were in a BIOS. Aboot fell out, who was left? Reboot…
Aboot and reboot were in a BIOS. Aboot fell out, who was left? Reboot…
Aboot and reboot were in a BIOS. Aboot fell out, who was left? Reboot…
Heroic Mulatto
Do you have any suggestions for topics you’d like to see for a point-counterpoint?
I mean other than immigration, because Jesus fucking Christ, who wants to read two people arguing past each other yet again?
WTF
So, I guess abortion is right out.
Heroic Mulatto
Yes. No immigration, abortion, circumcision, or the South’s justification in secession.
That leaves, “the superiority of regional pizza styles” and “Taylor Swift vs. Ariana Grande”.
Which one would you like?
Lafe Long
“Taylor Swift vs. Ariana Grande Aria Giovanni”.
mr simple
Like there’s even a choice in that second topic.
Chipwooder
Clam chowder: Manhattan or New England?
Zero Sum Game
I picked an argument the other day about anti-mask laws. Some see them as unethical and restricting expression. Others may opine differently.
I think there’s a lot of room for disagreement among minarchists, and then there are AnCaps as well. There are Cato-style libertarians and that-other-site’s style.
It doesn’t have to be about the “big stuff.” It can be about the out-there stuff too, for example someone who thinks Seasteading is feasible while someone else thinks the Free State Project is the best way forward or someone who thinks neither can happen and only when we can leave this planet can humanity truly be free to experiment with political systems.
Heroic Mulatto
Good ideas.
I’d be willing to take the anti- side of mask laws.
Heroic Mulatto
That is “against” such laws.
Zero Sum Game
I think you’ll find more takers on that side of the argument. I picked it because I know the laws exist in various places, and like all laws they end up applied irregularly. That doesn’t necessarily imply that they’re bad, but they still could be.
The real trick is in finding a taker who isn’t just playing devil’s advocate or is unsure themselves, but actually weighs the position and still picks a side.
Old Man With Candy
I took the “anti” side in the argument ZSG referred to. Your turn, HM.
Do you have any suggestions for topics you’d like to see for a point-counterpoint?
I and Dr. ZG wanted to maybe do a weekly column on medical issues, from a on-the-ground-in-the-trenches, POV, and a comparison of both Free Market v. Subsidised Medical Care, from the perspective of actual physicians (who are also patients, too. Which most people, including a goodly number here and TheSiteThatShaltNotBeNamed(tm) regularly overlook. We have a dog in the fighting arena of medical care).
Because discrete TX, RX, and the identification of discrete disease processes, and what actually does and does not constitute a recognised malady, disease process, syndrome, (and the inherent v. transient costs and payment mechanism for and thereof) is never controversial nor individualised & personal.
[sarc] At all. Whatsoever. Period. Full Stop. End of Story. [/sarc]
Zero Sum Game
I like it. There are lots of levels to be found there, and I don’t think anyone can claim one “right” solution for everything.
Please shoot me (us) an email then, so’s I know from the top brass which are acceptable and which are not, because, for us, no medical issue is inherently political nor per se ideological for us, sans ethical perogatives – which do matter, as we are human too* (and a rather….spirited,.,, source of discorde b’twixt Dr. ZG and Yours Truly).
Honestly, from my perspective and my HX of practice, it’s *patients* who make medicine, nursing, and Allied Health (It’s not, “Health Care,” dammit) a political shitshow, and practitioners are reacting to their environs.
*Cue The Human League’s, “Human.”
Old Man With Candy
No boundaries. Write what you think is good.
MikeS
How about topics relating to the “Libertarian Movement.” Such as; should libertarians spend valuable resources trying to get a president elected, or should the focus be starting in school districts, city councils, etc. and moving up from there.
Zero Sum Game
“Liberaltarians”, extend an olive branch to them or a talon full of arrows?
MikeS
My vote is the later, but I suppose it is debatable.
MikeS
Speaking of politics, how about the “to vote, or not to vote” question?
Zero Sum Game
Guest article by Vermin Supreme on engaging with politics as an anarchist. 😀
I’ve actually got a skeleton draft on this subject, in particular the distribution, sale, and license transfer of old and out of print software titles.
Specifically a little known software conglomerate named Autodesk (I am a commercial licensee of a number of their ridiculously overpriced titles – Dr. ZG and I have something of an interest in the feasibility of organ printing, to wit, the printing of organ classical tissue printing (aka, an organ tissue matrix based upon both the patient’s autological DNA and present volume and surface area of the where the organ will ultimately reside).
Autodesk won a case in CA where some dude bought an old copy of AutoCAD, and Autodesk would not activate and license the product, since A-Desk states, very specifically, that end users do not “own” the software, but they do “own” a non-transferable license, and almost always locked to one seat (depending on the title, license, and number of seats purchased).
This also as great implications on both medical diagnostic and robotic medical software, of which I am pretty much priced individually priced out unless I marry Bill Gates.
trshmnstr
As somebody who is a registered patent agent and about to become a patent attorney assuming I can pass the damned bar exam, I’ll be happy to do the pro side of it. I could also do the con side, because I’m not 100% sure how I feel about the way the system is currently used, specifically regarding the transfer of these rights.
WRT the CA Autodesk decision (which was submitted to SCOTUS, who voted to not hear the case, without comment).
In GER, their courts ruled against Autodesk, where someone successfully sued A-Desk to activate an old copy of 3DS Max, where the original permanent commercial licence is in the ball park of $12,000 USD. And this fellow bought it on a bidding webby for a fraction of the price, and the seller was in possession of a full commercial licence, whereas since, the buyer bought all the original software, his argument is A-Desk is obligated to activate it, regardless of who is in possession of said title, since A-Desk got their original asking price for a licence.
(Initial cost is about $3,800 for a three year license, which they no longer offer as A-Desk has opted for cloud issued subscription-based usage of many software titles.)
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A show about putting on a show about putting on a show about putting on a show… *echoes into infinity*
If the Mickey Rooney character is played by SugarFree, and he writes the show, I think I’ll pass. And good luck finding anyone to act in it.
I’m writing a Broadway musical called Pissgate. It’s about an orange man with tiny hands who challenges the world and beats the odds, but loses it all when it’s discovered he hired two prostitutes to urinate on a bed once slept in by the guy whose job he got. It ends with the line The Aristocrats!, to tie it to the storied, venerable edifice of Broadway.
The Aristocrats!
That documentary (or whatever it would classified as) is one of the funniest things I have ever watched.
+15 old naked Congresspeople and a pair of uncooperative moobs.
I call the interpretive dance part!
Damn, (((Renegade))), you are old, man.
116 next week. But I still have a raging (((boner))).
He’s really more boner than human at this point.
The ,”Six-Million Dollar
Bris? Or, Dearth Prepuce?We have the technology. We can re-engorge him.
BTW: Doesn’t the bit you posted continue with a musical number that includes burning books on a bonfire?
Babes in Arms also has Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland in blackface, as well as a number in which they do Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt. And the movie also introduced the song “Good Morning”. When lyricist Arthur Freed wanted to reuse his old songs for a new movie in 1952, he brought in Betty Comden and Adolph Green, who came up with the movie Singin’ in the Rain — I believe there’s not one original song in the latter movie.
First comment is not a happy one: at the site not to be named, they’re announcing 2chilli has passed.
OK, I’m stupid. It’s 2chilli’s dad.
The guy who wrote, “It Usually Begins with Ayn Rand”?
Yes
That would be correct.
Hiya, TAO! LTNS!
I just noticed that on my Chrome home page, this site has replaced the old orange site in the shortcuts.
I really like what you guys are doing here. Keep up the good work.
Seriously, this is more than a little bit scary.
I am enjoying it myself. Just curious, did anything precipitate a break with Site Which Shall Not Be Named?
I think it was a myriad of confounding factors. I took a break for a couple months, starting around the holidays, and when I came back, the joint just wasn’t the same anymore. There was a discussion about it, I think, in yesterday’s afternoon links.
It was primarily the decline in writing, but the final straw was them refusing to write an article about sloopy’s mom getting body slammed by the police.
Did anything ever get resolved regarding that? I remember hearing about it, but didn’t see any follow up.
In the works.
You’ve already solved two big problems for me. First, there are fewer daily posts, and they are all original, so I don’t have to scroll through 10 takes on the same subject. And second, there are fewer comments, because there isn’t any bickering back and forth with trolls. I like to read this stuff but I don’t have all day to scroll through bullshit.
As soon as we can get dajjal, John, and Hugh Akston to show up to start yanking each other’s tails, we’ll have really arrived.
Don’t forget Tulpa, I mean, chemjeff
So, what you’re saying is that you need more screeching about Trump here?
lots. 24/7. there is nothing else.
Yes, exactly. I guess there was some kind of Trump press conference recently. So I expect every contributor to write at least 2 posts about it, all on the same day, then do it again next week.
Got it.
***yells to kitchen*** I GOT AN ORDER FOR 6 HAT AND HAIR AND 2 MORE IVANKGINAS!
For me it was always about the community, pseudo-anonymity notwithstanding. When what-shall-not-be-named made it fairly clear they don’t give a shit about their longstanding peanut gallery the choice what obvious. Bravo, great, work, keep it up.
I was a long time lurker, 12 years, rare commenter. This new site is terrific work. Thanks to all.
Man, you even look like a libertarian.
Just wait until my daily column starts: Livin’ Libertarian in a Dystopian Wasteland
Shouldn’t that column belong to Detroit Linguist and EdWuncler?
For several years, when I opened Firefox it would load 3 tabs: H&R, Reddit and Twitter. Decided this morning to switch out the H&R tab for this place (even though I still will occasionally check in over there).
This place feels like what H&R used to when I started there in ’06 or ’07. I like that.
I started in ’07 too. Giving me them feels.
It doesn’t feel like that at all to me. It feels like something I can’t link to because it’s firewalled for me here at work and there’s a NSFW policy on photos & .gifs.
Judy Garland.
Would have.
*nods perhaps a little too aggressively*
She was what… probably 16 or 17 when this movie came out? Movie’s from the late 30s, she was born… early 20s?
Anyways, yes. Definitely would have.
She was born in June 1922. The movie (Babes in Arms) came out in 1939, but I’d have to look up the month.
If TMZ is to be believed or one of those gossipy outlets, the oompa loompas or munchkins or whatever the hell those midgets in wizard of oz are, did.
“They were the residents of the surreal world of Munchkinland in The Wizard of Oz , but behind the scenes the adult dwarf actors were hard-drinking, sex-mad hellraisers.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/wizard-oz-mucnhkins-didnt-just-9782402
On my bucket list. Party with munchkins.
Let Buster do a line off your boner.
One of the Munchkins wound up driving the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile.
It will be interesting to see how long this will go on. The fact is that no one is getting paid to do this and that tends to put a sell by date on these kinds of things. See garage bands.
There are avenues for income, and they don’t necessarily have to require ads or subscriber fees. First, though, is to establish a consistent presence and a readership base.
That’s an unwarranted assumption.
I’m not sure it’s the “not paid” part that might doom it eventually. There’s a distinct lack of a tone. The precedent is obviously “irreverence”, but even irreverent publications try to follow an established style and tone. Huffingglue is mostly unpaid authors turning out drivel, but there’s editorial review so it least what’s slopped in the trough is about the same consistency as what was slopped in there yesterday.
One format I rarely see anymore that I think would be good for some recurring articles, given the cat-herding exercise that nailing down “libertarian” ideas tends to be, is point-counterpoint. Structured articles where two authors pick a different side, research it, philosophize about it, and try their damnedest to convince a readership from their own soapbox. That seems more intellectually honest than that other site’s clear biases showing in everything that goes out.
not a bad plan.
That kind of content would be terrific especially if preceded by an in-depth woodchipper review.
PAY ME MY LIVING WAGE OR I’M OUT.
*creates fully automated Rufus using deep learning algorithms*
-Code reading-
*arrives at subroutine _ABOOT_*
*system goes into continuous logic loop.*
*CPU melts*
-Instant Logic Bomb-
Aboot and reboot were in a BIOS. Aboot fell out, who was left? Reboot…
Aboot and reboot were in a BIOS. Aboot fell out, who was left? Reboot…
Aboot and reboot were in a BIOS. Aboot fell out, who was left? Reboot…
Do you have any suggestions for topics you’d like to see for a point-counterpoint?
I mean other than immigration, because Jesus fucking Christ, who wants to read two people arguing past each other yet again?
So, I guess abortion is right out.
Yes. No immigration, abortion, circumcision, or the South’s justification in secession.
That leaves, “the superiority of regional pizza styles” and “Taylor Swift vs. Ariana Grande”.
Which one would you like?
Like there’s even a choice in that second topic.
Clam chowder: Manhattan or New England?
I picked an argument the other day about anti-mask laws. Some see them as unethical and restricting expression. Others may opine differently.
I think there’s a lot of room for disagreement among minarchists, and then there are AnCaps as well. There are Cato-style libertarians and that-other-site’s style.
It doesn’t have to be about the “big stuff.” It can be about the out-there stuff too, for example someone who thinks Seasteading is feasible while someone else thinks the Free State Project is the best way forward or someone who thinks neither can happen and only when we can leave this planet can humanity truly be free to experiment with political systems.
Good ideas.
I’d be willing to take the anti- side of mask laws.
That is “against” such laws.
I think you’ll find more takers on that side of the argument. I picked it because I know the laws exist in various places, and like all laws they end up applied irregularly. That doesn’t necessarily imply that they’re bad, but they still could be.
The real trick is in finding a taker who isn’t just playing devil’s advocate or is unsure themselves, but actually weighs the position and still picks a side.
I took the “anti” side in the argument ZSG referred to. Your turn, HM.
Do you have any suggestions for topics you’d like to see for a point-counterpoint?
I and Dr. ZG wanted to maybe do a weekly column on medical issues, from a on-the-ground-in-the-trenches, POV, and a comparison of both Free Market v. Subsidised Medical Care, from the perspective of actual physicians (who are also patients, too. Which most people, including a goodly number here and TheSiteThatShaltNotBeNamed(tm) regularly overlook. We have a dog in the fighting arena of medical care).
Because discrete TX, RX, and the identification of discrete disease processes, and what actually does and does not constitute a recognised malady, disease process, syndrome, (and the inherent v. transient costs and payment mechanism for and thereof) is never controversial nor individualised & personal.
[sarc] At all. Whatsoever. Period. Full Stop. End of Story. [/sarc]
I like it. There are lots of levels to be found there, and I don’t think anyone can claim one “right” solution for everything.
That would be seriously excellent.
That would be seriously excellent.
Please shoot me (us) an email then, so’s I know from the top brass which are acceptable and which are not, because, for us, no medical issue is inherently political nor per se ideological for us, sans ethical perogatives – which do matter, as we are human too* (and a rather….spirited,.,, source of discorde b’twixt Dr. ZG and Yours Truly).
Honestly, from my perspective and my HX of practice, it’s *patients* who make medicine, nursing, and Allied Health (It’s not, “Health Care,” dammit) a political shitshow, and practitioners are reacting to their environs.
*Cue The Human League’s, “Human.”
No boundaries. Write what you think is good.
How about topics relating to the “Libertarian Movement.” Such as; should libertarians spend valuable resources trying to get a president elected, or should the focus be starting in school districts, city councils, etc. and moving up from there.
“Liberaltarians”, extend an olive branch to them or a talon full of arrows?
My vote is the later, but I suppose it is debatable.
Speaking of politics, how about the “to vote, or not to vote” question?
Guest article by Vermin Supreme on engaging with politics as an anarchist. 😀
Speaking of politics, how about the “to vote, or not to vote” question?
*abstains*
Per my post above. Intellectual Property, pro and con. I’m not sure I’m totally resolved in my head about it.
I’ve actually got a skeleton draft on this subject, in particular the distribution, sale, and license transfer of old and out of print software titles.
Specifically a little known software conglomerate named Autodesk (I am a commercial licensee of a number of their ridiculously overpriced titles – Dr. ZG and I have something of an interest in the feasibility of organ printing, to wit, the printing of organ classical tissue printing (aka, an organ tissue matrix based upon both the patient’s autological DNA and present volume and surface area of the where the organ will ultimately reside).
Autodesk won a case in CA where some dude bought an old copy of AutoCAD, and Autodesk would not activate and license the product, since A-Desk states, very specifically, that end users do not “own” the software, but they do “own” a non-transferable license, and almost always locked to one seat (depending on the title, license, and number of seats purchased).
This also as great implications on both medical diagnostic and robotic medical software, of which I am pretty much priced individually priced out unless I marry Bill Gates.
As somebody who is a registered patent agent and about to become a patent attorney assuming I can pass the damned bar exam, I’ll be happy to do the pro side of it. I could also do the con side, because I’m not 100% sure how I feel about the way the system is currently used, specifically regarding the transfer of these rights.
Addendum:
WRT the CA Autodesk decision (which was submitted to SCOTUS, who voted to not hear the case, without comment).
In GER, their courts ruled against Autodesk, where someone successfully sued A-Desk to activate an old copy of 3DS Max, where the original permanent commercial licence is in the ball park of $12,000 USD. And this fellow bought it on a bidding webby for a fraction of the price, and the seller was in possession of a full commercial licence, whereas since, the buyer bought all the original software, his argument is A-Desk is obligated to activate it, regardless of who is in possession of said title, since A-Desk got their original asking price for a licence.
(Initial cost is about $3,800 for a three year license, which they no longer offer as A-Desk has opted for cloud issued subscription-based usage of many software titles.)
I really like this idea.
Do you know who else had a wait and see attitude?
Doctors?
Constipated people?
England in the late 30’s?
Servers at Opaque?
Sextus Empiricus?
The Blind man of Bethsaida?
You mean the Game Devs? Yeah, that *would* explain A LOT!
My blog just celebrated its ninth anniversary at the end of last month.