Monday Morning Links

Happy not exactly bad news Monday.

  • The Russkies are doing something Nucular in the Arctic, but as this measured article states it does not appear to be a nuclear test or Trump’s fault.
  • Even the NY Times is forced to admit that there may be an American Deep State, and that might not be great. Except Trump.
  • Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is cleaning out the top floor of Foggy Bottom. His previous oversight of the Exxon-Mobil merger (company name pronounced “Exxon”) probably helped.
  • Nerdcore Monday: One only wonders how many hours were wasted photoshopping. I guess freeing people up to do their actual work instead of playing is a productivity hack right? By the end of the week, I’ll be testing autocommenting on Glibertarians!
  • Milo Yiannopoulos must have been surprisingly effective on Bill Maher because Right-thinking people hated it.
Hated It!
Hated It!

(Happy, Gilmore?!)

Comments

405 responses to “Monday Morning Links”

  1. Sour Kraut

    For the wrong-thinking person in your life:

    [a href=”http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/18/hitlers-personal-telephone-gifted-red-army-british-officer-goes/”]Hitler’s personal telephone goes on the block[/a]

      1. SugarFree

        You can actually use it to talk to Hitler. Well, I mean you talk and he mostly screams about Jews, but, you know, hey it’s Hitler on the phone.

        1. Share some vegetarian recipes?

          1. SugarFree

            Think of the money you could make getting him to make voicemail messages for you friends.

            “Das ist Hitler! Kevin ist nicht verfügbar, um Ihren Anruf jetzt zu nehmen. Lassen Sie bitte eine Mitteilung und TOD ALLE JUDEN!”

          2. I had the idea of a new birthday/anniversary service: Hitler-Gram!

            Someone dresses up as Hitler to deliver the happy message.

            *files under failed business plans*

          3. Brett L

            Imagine what the insurance is going to cost right now while punching “nazis” is so popular with the Left.

          4. The Fusionist

            But first you get a whole bunch of wealthy widows to “invest” in the idea, and when it doesn’t work you give them the bad news that you lost their money, except you actually collected more money from them than the project cost…this plan is guaranteed not to fail!

          5. Vhyrus

            Why yes, I too have seen ‘The Producers’!

          6. Suthenboy

            Vegetarian recipe? Turnips. Turnips are under appreciated.

            Wash your turnips, or not, then place them all in a bucket. Take the bucket out to the pig pen and dump it over into the pen. Do this every day for a year. At the end of the year, preferably around Christmas time, place the pig on a spit over a nice oak fire and cover with copious amounts of bbq sauce. That is my favorite turnip recipe.

          7. ElspethFlashman

            A turnip that looks mysteriously like a thingy? /Black Adder.

          8. Swiss Servator

            +2 Whiteadders

          9. ElspethFlashman

            Mad cousin MacAdder.

          10. Number.6

            Parsnip.
            Which are also seriously underappreciated, whether mashed, as soup, or even deep fried.

            They’re what the Scots lived on before potatoes were invented.

          11. bacon-magic

            Hey, I like turnips and parsnips. Just ‘cuz bacon is magic™ doesn’t mean veggies don’t have a little bit of magic too.

          12. Azathoth

            So, I’ve started doing this–

            Whenever someone feels the need to inform me that they’re vegetarian, I’ve begun responding with “Oh, like Hitler. Good for you.”

            You have never seen a conversation stop deader than that.

          13. Tim from Philly

            LOL! I am stealing this. Best way I have ever seen to shut the smug up.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Thought experiment…

          What if Hitler had Twitter?

          1. SugarFree

            Most of his favorite words are already 140 characters all by themselves.

          2. Sour Kraut

            +1 Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            German is kind of an impediment in the Snapchat world.

          4. juris imprudent

            That’s a feature.

          5. Suthenboy

            Twitler? Twittler?

          6. Slammer

            Versailles Treaty hurts hard working Germans. Very unfair. SAD.

          7. “I wish to speak to you now. Where is the Eye of the Serpent? Rexor says that you gave to a girl, probably for a mere night’s pleasure, hmm? What a loss. People have no grasp of what they do. You broke into my house, stole my property, murdered my servants, and my PETS! And that is what grieves me the most! You killed my snake. Thorgrim is beside himself with grief! He raised that snake from the time it was born. “

          8. bacon-magic

            I’m contemplating your avatar on the Tree of Woe™. *hugs tree*

          9. John Titor

            “LOL Going to invade Russia after summer, risky but #YOLO.”

          10. Swiss Servator

            “Getting loud out, need sleep” #bunker#1945sux

          11. John Titor

            “Co-workers being total dicks to me, today some asshole left his bag under my desk. #BombBritsNotGermans”

          12. SugarFree

            Ich <3 Milo. Bringen Sie mir diese MILO. #Fabelhaft.

          13. Rhywun

            Mein neuer Blondi.

  2. Juvenile Bluster

    The Russkies are doing something Nucular in the Arctic, but as this measured article states it does not appear to be a nuclear test or Trump’s fault.

    It does sound like the opening scene to a movie though. Let me know when they awaken the giant monster sleeping under the ice.

    1. Swiss Servator

      NUCULAHR POLEY BEAR!

      1. Galt1138

        That’s a very cool painting.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      Where is gojira now that we need him?

  3. John Titor

    Milo Yiannopoulos, the British alt-right darling who has made a career of being a racist, sexist creep trying to pass as a provocateur, appeared on Real Time With Bill Maher on Friday night. It was a righteous booking: I don’t like Maher much (not funny; sexist; tedious), but I am down with his First Amendment absolutism. Unfortunately, Maher’s one-on-one interview that aired on HBO was so dreadfully soft and tentative that a viewer unfamiliar with Yiannopoulos’s views might have come away thinking, Well, he’s not such a bad guy…

    …After Yiannopoulos referred to Wilmore and Nance as “stupid,” Maher didn’t even react; he was just moving on to his next interview-question card. Wilmore, however, was having nothing of it. “Wait a minute,” he said. Addressing Yiannopoulos, he said calmly, “You can go f*** yourself.” He then quieted the cheers from the audience and added, “You didn’t hear a word [Nance] said earlier in this segment, because he can talk circles around your pathetic, douchey little ass from England, all right?”

    DURR HURR MEAN MAN SAY MEAN WORDS, FUNNY MAN SAY MEAN WORDS BACK, HIS MEAN WORDS BETTER.

    Hell, the dude almost won me over at the start by saying Maher isn’t funny…but then lost it by justifying it under the context of screaming ‘HERETIC’.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Milo is the representation of something I hate about the right (and some libertarians…). He’s an asshole, a troll, somebody who generally shouldn’t be given the time of day, But he needles the left into protests and all around asshatery, so that makes him good?

      The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. That’s it.

      1. John Titor

        Meh, Milo’s got some libertarian-leaning views. Lucy did an interview with him where he opens with talking about how he wants to kill the surveillance state. He supports plenty of non-libertarian ideas obviously, and needs to be challenged on those, but right now he’s an actively pro-free speech advocate in an environment where the issue unfortunately is not unanimously decided. We need people like that.

        Milo’s the discourse’s equivalent of a wrecking ball. It can be used to tear down a broken, decayed foundation or your bathroom. It’s all in how you use it. Keep him pointed at the campus freaks and we’re fine.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Agreed. But now he’s speaking at CPAC. Whole different thing there.

          1. John Titor

            Well when he’s the only thing ‘the right’ has going for it in terms of youth attraction it doesn’t surprise me. From where I’m standing Team Red has become utterly incompetent at outreach for at least the past decade, they just got lucky that Team Blue has gotten even worse.

          2. dbleagle

            What? Are you telling me that a 2020 rematch of octogenarians Hill and Bern won’t excite the youth vote? Why the first time 18 year old voters were only -2 when Bill and Hillary left the Oval Office. They’ll be full of hip and hep ideas.

        2. The first few times the Milo came to my attention it was links to some debate or another he would have with someone obviously intellectually his inferior. His style seemed snarky and brash and almost insulting. But he did always seem to come of as seeming well informed but quick to go in the gutter too.

          Now it seems he knows he is invited on these things to throw bombs and play”Milo”. Who knows what the guys real shtick is. But any analysis doesn’t have to stray too far from 1A absolutism. For that I am glad he is out there.

          Did you see what I did there?

      2. Password gl1b

        It’s really more of a culture war. If people see this flamboyant, obviously harmless and kinda funny gay dude running around spouting conservatism, and the left freaks out about that, what are people in the middle supposed to think?

        That’s why this quote got me:
        Unfortunately, Maher’s one-on-one interview that aired on HBO was so dreadfully soft and tentative that a viewer unfamiliar with Yiannopoulos’s views might have come away thinking, Well, he’s not such a bad guy…

        See, it’s the media’s job to make sure that people get painted in the proper light! And that’s what they try to do with Milo, but they just end up looking like idiots in the process.

      3. Volren

        What I don’t like about him is that he uses the Jon Stewart excuse – when he’s making a legitimate point, that’s fine, but when he says something ridiculous he falls back on “Oh I’m just trolling”, like Stewart and his ilk fall back on being comedians.

        He’s doing something useful when going against SJWs and I’ll admit I don’t think I could do what he does, but yeah it’s hard to take him seriously.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          What he has in common with Stewart is a total lack of being funny.

          1. John Titor

            Agreed, but it’s a low bar considering 60% of Stewart’s comedy was “make funny face and sound, go “whaaaaaat?” and wait for response”.

          2. Old Man With Candy

            That works when your audience is, pace Hitch, a group of trained seals.

          3. trshmnstr

            I’ve actually enjoyed some of Milo’s longer form stuff. His 5 minute interviews are all a bit, and I don’t find that type of humor all that funny. However, his 90 minute campus speeches are a good mix of humor and actual information.

          4. Gilmore

            The Russkies are doing something Nucular in the Arctic,

            This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.

          5. Brett L

            Just put that anywhere.

          6. Galt1138

            Agreed.

    2. Hyperion

      “You can go f*** yourself”

      In progland, this wins an argument, if the right person says it.

  4. bacon-magic

    I’m still waiting for fist of etiquette to migrate before the “first” game gets started up.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Are you kidding? We’ve brought the fences in for him so he barely needs to make contact to hit a homer every time.

      1. juris imprudent

        The man has a precise, if delicate, timing – these links started way before his accustomed time. Hell, he may not even be awake at such an ungodly hour.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          I meant at Reason. 😉

          1. bacon-magic

            My IT guy relented and let me log on at work! Wooty woo hoo!

          2. bacon-magic

            Now I need to find greasemonkey and then monocle for my work pc.

          3. DOOMco

            huzzah!!

          4. bacon-magic

            Doomco,
            Do you have the monocle addon? /thanks I’m lazy

          5. bacon-magic

            Nevermind, my lazy ass found it.

          6. DOOMco

            i do. I used tampermonkey, like trsh advised.here is monocle

          7. DOOMco

            scrolling is for chumps.

  5. Brett L

    Technical question, can anyone see the alt-text on the image?

    1. Yes, but I hated it.

      1. ElspethFlashman

        +1 two snaps around the world.

    2. Private Chipperbot

      No; using Chrome.

      1. Brett L

        Must be a chrome thing. Just comply to the HTML standards, chrome!

        1. Old Man With Candy

          I see it in Chrome.

    3. MikeS

      Technical answer: No

      1. MikeS

        And I’m on Firefox

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Same here and same here.

          1. Brett L

            Now it is captioned. I may be blaming chrome for WordPress.

          2. MikeS

            There it is. Now Ted’s comment is even funnier. Or cornier. I guess both.

    4. Banjos

      Yes, Safari on my phone.

    5. Slammer

      Gaaaayyyyy

    6. ElspethFlashman

      It was a caption for me. Then the 90’s called, so I had to pick up the phone.

      1. Swiss Servator

        DID YOU WARN THEM ABOUT 9/11???????

        1. He got caught up in the Seinfeld vs Friends argument.

    7. JD

      I have to long-press the image on my Android phone using Chrome to see the alt text.

      1. Now that is how you euphemism!

  6. Classic Florida Woman photo:

    Florida woman pours glue into ATMs after card repeatedly declined

    Detectives said surveillance images showed Brown walking up to the ATM at Beach Community Bank, located in the 4400 block of Bayou Blvd, on January 21.

    Brown can be seen with a small tube of glue as she approached the machine. Investigators said, Brown made several attempts to use her card but the machine failed each time.

    Surveillance images show Brown walked away, then glue was found poured into the ATM, according to police.

    Minutes later, Brown is seen on surveillance approaching another ATM at the Coastal Bank and Trust down the road from the first bank.

    1. Slammer

      The arrest is for The cop who found the tube of Liquid Meth

    2. Hyperion

      Sometimes, you can just read a story and know it’s Florida without it being mentioned.

    3. Looks like she picked the wrong week to start depositing glue.

  7. straffinrun

    That NYT Deep State article is a riot. On an on about leaks and yet it skips from Dubya to Trump. Not a mention of Snowden. Reminds me of this.

  8. Are these Big Foot’s tracks? Hiker photographs ‘PROOF of beast’

    The bizarre footprints are about two feet long, a couple of inches deep and four-six feet apart.

    Hiker Roy Bianchi, of Rock Island, found the mysterious marks behind a construction site in Sunnyslope, Arizona, US.

    He sensationally claimed: “I knew they were Bigfoot tracks.”

    STEVE SMITH apparently hops on one foot to move forward.

    1. Brett L

      One foot, two appendages.

      1. straffinrun

        Thx for the links, Brett. Yeoman’s work.

    2. Swiss Servator

      STEVE SMITH SPRAIN ANKLE CHASING DOWN SPEEDY HIKER!

  9. Pomp

    Even the NY Times is forced to admit that there may be an American Deep State, and that might not be great. Except Trump.

    From the linked NY Post article: “This week’s round of firings marks the second time State Department personnel have been cleared out since President Trump took office last month.

    “Four top officials were cleared out of the building at the end of January.”

    Now, I’m not one to hurl accusations based on tone alone, but this article’s tonality gives me the impression that the NY Post is kinda sorta propagating the idea that those four top officials were shitcanned, when actually it still isn’t clear which of them were posted elsewhere, what was a planned resignation, what was a real “firing,” etc.

    Since the NY Post article itself is not peppered with a whole lot of direct quotes or citations from anyone, the basis for their article is a glorified retweet based on the CBS article that NY Post linked to:

    “R.C. Hammond, a State Department spokesman, did not respond to the specific question of what motivated the layoffs but provided the following statement: ‘As part of the transition from one administration to the next we continue to build out our team. The State Department is supported by a very talented group of individuals, both Republicans and Democrats. We are appreciative to any American who dedicates their talents to public service.‎’ “

    So yeah, it’s not blatantly obvious at this point that this is a huge BFD purge, or if it’s a routine process. I’m personally optimistic about Tillerson being a successful SoS. His two immediate predecessors were political hacks.

    1. mikey

      I think the first four were political appointees who routinely submitted their resignations. But instead of the usual request to stick around until their replacements showed up were told”resignation accepted. Goodbye”.

  10. Wilders at Dutch campaign launch vows to crack down on ‘Moroccan scum’

    “Not all are scum, but there is a lot of Moroccan scum in Holland who makes the streets unsafe,” he told reporters, speaking in English. “If you want to regain your country, if you want to make the Netherlands for the people of the Netherlands, your own home, again, then you can only vote for one party.”

    Crime by young Moroccans was not being taken seriously, added Wilders, who in December was convicted of inciting discrimination for leading supporters in a chant that they wanted “Fewer! Fewer! Fewer!” Moroccans in the country.

    Wilders – who has lived in hiding since an Islamist murdered Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh in 2004 – pledges to ban Muslim immigration, close all mosques and take the Netherlands out of the European Union.

    You know who else wanted to crack down on scum…

    1. Brett L

      Grand Moff Tarkin?

      1. Pic of Canadian Mounties ‘greeting’ refugees goes viral, but here’s what’s NOT mentioned

        These photos are going global-viral without people understanding the Mounties are (politely) arresting the refugees. https://t.co/RQn3w6RjP4

        — Daniel Dale (@ddale8) February 18, 2017

        Yes – Crossers aren’t detained long; can then seek asylum; process is humane. But far from certain Canada will grant their requests to stay.

        — Daniel Dale (@ddale8) February 18, 2017

        1. not meant as a reply. my bad

        2. John Titor

          This is how we maintain our good image. Do everything as politely as possible, most people are too stupid to realize that they’re getting fucked.

          1. So the RCMP are more like US Federal regulatory agencies, than our militarized police force? Unlike Darryl Hall, I can go for that.

          2. Professional Beach Bum

            I like yer boat in yer pitcher. Mmmmhmmm /Karl Childers voice

    2. MikeS

      Mr. Clean?

    3. straffinrun

      All hell is gonna break loose when one puts their finger in a dyke.

    4. Pomp

      CLR Bathroom & Kitchen Cleaner?

    5. John Titor

      The Spanish in the Spanish Netherlands?

      1. Swiss Servator

        TOO BAD FOR THE DONS!

        Wilhelmus van Nassouwe
        Ben ick van Duytschen bloet,
        Den Vaderlant getrouwe
        Blyf ick tot in den doot:
        Een Prince van Oraengien
        Ben ick vrij onverveert,
        Den Coninck van Hispaengien
        Heb ick altijt gheeert.

        In Godes vrees te leven
        Heb ick altyt betracht,
        Daerom ben ick verdreven
        Om Landt om Luyd ghebracht:
        Maer God sal mij regeren
        Als een goet Instrument,
        Dat ick zal wederkeeren
        In mijnen Regiment.

        Lydt u myn Ondersaten
        Die oprecht zyn van aert,
        Godt sal u niet verlaten
        Al zijt ghy nu beswaert:
        Die vroom begheert te leven
        Bidt Godt nacht ende dach,
        Dat hy my cracht wil gheven
        Dat ick u helpen mach.

        1. Are you having a stroke?

    6. Juvenile Bluster

      BILLY MAYS HERE FOR OXYCLEAN?

      1. Jimbo

        Pitchman approved

    7. Tacit Rainbow

      Travis Bickle?

    8. Scrubbing Bubbles?

    9. leonadasiv

      Scary that you can be arrested for ‘inciting discrimination’

  11. Trump dreams vs Trump reality – hopes still permitted!

    They key, of course, is point 1: draining the swamp. In other words, wrestling the power away from the Neocons and the US ‘deep state’ and putting it back where it belongs: in the hands of a President with a mandate of a majority of the American people. That is, alas, the biggest loss we all suffered last week: the man who was supposed to drain the swamp got a humiliating smack-down by a deep state drunk on its own infinite chutzpah. The biggest deal is not that Flynn was sacked, although that is a big deal, but the fact that the deep state forced Trump into publicly betraying Flynn and sacking him instead of those who were involved in this palace coup (including Pence himself).

    What the deep state demonstrated this week is that everybody in the Executive Branch serves not at the pleasure of the President, but at the pleasure of the deep state, including probably Donald Trump himself.

  12. Good Lord! Has anyone watched Democracy Now! Lately?

    Ground zero for TDS.

    1. Pomp

      In lieu of stiletto heels on my ballbag, I listen to NPR very regularly, for extended periods of time, during driving commutes masochism. Even I have my limits.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        So you’re that guy that I see on the interstate who’s always screaming at his dashboard.

        1. Number.6

          If you’re in Connecticut, no, that’s me.

          1. MikeT86

            That’s just all of us. We are suffering.

            When I get to the Gates of Heaven, I expect St Peter to look at my residency and realize no further punishment is mandated.

      2. ElspethFlashman

        I used to do this (listen to NPR, not stillettos) driving to work too. Then, since August, I gave up because too much derp hurts my brain. But I can still listen if I go to my sister’s house, who has it playing religiously in the background. #nothanks.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The fetishization of democracy is always a sure sign of a second rate mind. Democracy is only a means, not an end in of itself.

      1. Password gl1b

        It’s not even a particularly good means. That’s why it has to be watered down into something else (e.g. republic) to avoid self-destruction.

        1. darius404

          Watered down? Or Purified?

      2. +2 lions and a lamb voting on what’s for dinner.

    3. John Titor

      Who’s Patient Zero for TDS anyway? Has to be some Republican during the nomination.

      I remember when Gillespie called Trump ‘the Idiocracy Candidate’.

      1. straffinrun

        Burn the typhoid jacket.

      2. Password gl1b

        Someone could probably construct a network of media using the word ‘dark’ after the primaries to find ground zero.

    4. juris imprudent

      Is there a reason I ever would have watched Democracy Now!

    5. Old Man With Candy

      If you want real laughs, listen to whatever passes for Hate Radio in your area. Here, it’s WCPT. Conservative talk radio is massively stupid but really, really boring. Even Mikey Weiner is no longer even trying. Lefty Hate Radio is massively stupid but packed wall to wall with unintentional humor. One hour of Thom Hartmann or Wayne Besen will lower your IQ by 50 points.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Try Tony Macrini on WNIS in the mornings. A libertarian-lite outlook combined with toilet humor.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          Sadly, that doesn’t run out here. I’ll check if it’s streamable.

      2. I think it was Thom Hartman who said the whole point of Smith’s “The Wealth of Nations” was that trade protectionism is the preferred policy.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          My favorite moment was when he claimed that when methane in the atmosphere breaks down, it forms six molecules of CO2. He also said that he could never remember the difference between hydrogen and helium, which tells me he should be in command of the Hindenberg.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Hartmann is a moron. Among his many claims is that tritium cannot be eliminated nor that it exists naturally on earth.

            Last week, Thom Hartmann interviewed Kevin Kamps about the recent goings on at San Onofre, and its dumping of the radionuclide, tritium, into the local environment.

            People fail to realize the hazard of tritium. Chemically, it looks like hydrogen, until it transmutes into helium and turns your DNA into Jello!

            I put together some layman’s charts explaining what tritium is, how it is formed, why it cannot be eliminated, and its impact on health. Take a few minutes to learn something about tritium, a radionuclide that’s nonexistent on Earth:

          2. Cliche Bandit

            uhhh…wow.

          3. Old Man With Candy

            “chemically looks like hydrogen” Well, so much for a century of organic mechanism elucidation through the isotope effect on reaction rates and isomerism. We should have asked Thommy Boy first.

          4. Tritium is trans-molecule

          5. SQWRLZ

            Is that the same thing that makes night sights glow?

          6. Number.6

            Well, ditritium oxide, encapsulated in a suitable transparent capsule.

    6. darius404

      Why the hell would you watch Democracy Now?

      1. All I get on the digital antenna is four channels of PBS.

          1. Thanks. Am about thirty miles off the coast the only stations with relays wasting signal out this direction are non-profit state sponsored.

  13. Kevin Drum: We Should Practice Truth in Statistics, Even When It Hurts

    Whenever I see writing that carefully avoids providing comparative statistics, my BS detector goes off. Sure enough, Saunders didn’t “rigorously” do anything. He linked to an old report that tallies crime rates for the years 1997-2001—which is all but useless in 20171—and then glided quickly past his eventual acknowledgment that the foreign-born have “a higher rate of criminal charges than the native-born.” If you’re interested, here’s the actual data from the report (tables 3 and 6 in the appendix):

    These are very big differences. Now, Saunders also links to a study which suggests that “half to three-quarters” of the difference can be accounted for by socioeconomic status. Maybe so. But crime is crime. If you’re the victim of assault from a Syrian refugee, you don’t really care if it happened because he’s Syrian or because he’s poorer than average.

    1. Brett L

      What? A sane reply on Mother Jones to the idea that assimilation isn’t just as easy as throwing a lei around a refugee’s neck and pointing them to the job bulletin board?

    2. juris imprudent

      One of my favorite SocSec quotes (about the lie of how it is financed) comes from Kevin Drum. It is a joy to drop that on some proggie and watch the cognitive dissonance play across their face.

      1. Swiss Servator

        Well…can we have it??!

        1. juris imprudent

          “It’s easy enough to see why people believe this: it was, basically, the way the program was initially sold. And politicians ever since have found it convenient to continue this fiction. Seniors today are all convinced that the money they paid into the program during their working years was somehow saved up for them and now they’re getting it back.”

          From this link which is a response to of ALL people SD at TSTSNBN (wherein she was as wrong about SocSec as she is about so much else).

          1. Viking1865

            The amount of people who just flat out do not believe this is mind boggling. They seem to genuinely believe there is this savings account with trillions of dollars of FICA taxes just waiting for them to retire.

          2. Azathoth

            I don’t think there are a whole lot of people who think there’s some big savings account–I just think there are a whole lot of people who want the money that was stolen from them all their working lives back–and if it crushes the lying government that was doing the stealing too fucking bad.

            Stop thinking people are stupid.

            Start understanding that people are pissed.

          3. trshmnstr

            Stop thinking people are stupid.

            Start understanding that people are pissed.

            I don’t think those are mutually exclusive. However, when there are polls like below, I lean toward stupid more than pissed.

            CBS News Poll. Jan. 17-21, 2014. N=1,018 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.

            “Overall, do you think the benefits from Social Security are worth the cost of the program for taxpayers, or are they not worth the cost?”

            Worth it 73%
            Not worth it 21%
            Unsure 6%

          4. trshmnstr

            As a correlary to my above post, any assumption that a majority disapprove of government program X is wrong. By and large, the public perception is that government programs, especially entitlement programs, are widely beloved and aren’t working because the wrong TOP MEN are controlling the levers of those specific programs.

          5. juris imprudent

            You ever talked to someone collecting SocSec? Please find me one that says “oh yeah, I don’t mind that I’m being paid off the back of people working today; it’s all part of the deal”. No, every one of them refuses to accept that because they don’t want to believe that they are a burden and because they’ve been told that the money taken from them was set aside for them. You’ll even hear about “the lockbox”.

            They aren’t stupid, but they want to believe the lie because the truth is just too uncomfortable.

      2. leonadasiv

        Don’t leave us hanging

  14. On transgender issues: Transgender people are “vastly disproportionally involved in sex crimes.” (This is technically true, according to the Justice Department,

    Isn’t “technically” the best kind of true?

    1. Swiss Servator

      Always.

    2. The Fusionist

      “Involved” from what end? The receiving end or the dispensing end?

      1. R C Dean

        When they use a squish word like “involved” (see, also, “officer-involved” shootings), you’re safe putting the bad interpretation on it. So, committing, not being the victim.

        1. Viking1865

          My personal favorite is that they are now lumping all violence between boyfriends, girlfriends, husbands, wives, and exes of both into one huge “intimate partner violence” stat.

  15. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Victimhood Bingo

    I’m not straight nor white. My most honest gender is non-binary. I grew up in what we call a developing nation. I spent a decade of my life starving myself and imagining myself dead.

    I’m also straight-passing, cisgender, and light-skinned. In many ways, my partner and I proceeded with our relationship as if I were a straight, white, “all-American” gal.

    My advice for their partner?

    Run, run like the wind, to be free again…..

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I was hoping I’d be rid of Everyday Feminism links here.

      I still say that site is satire.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        You’re just here for the Trump links?

        Fine, whatever, I’ll redeem myself in a moment.

      2. juris imprudent

        Thanks JB, I thought I might have been alone in that.

    2. straffinrun

      Huh? Can I still have sex with it?

    3. John Titor

      I kind of miss the days when people like this would just wear hairshirts and whip themselves in public for their sins.

      1. Swiss Servator

        Go on…

        /S&M aficinado

    4. Jerms

      Christ–just let me know-do you have a warm hole i can create some friction inside of or not!!??

    5. Hyperion

      “My most honest gender is non-binary”

      This statement just stands on it’s own. Nothing more to day.

      1. Hyperion

        say, damnit!

        1. Okay…

          Damnit!

    6. Azathoth

      damn.

      that hurt my brain.

      So, let me see if I’ve got this straight–she’s a straight white girl who roleplays with her boyfriend as a special snowflake?

      Because that’s what she seems to be saying.

      I wonder if they go home and get all hot and heavy unpacking their privilege.

  16. juris imprudent

    I’m just a tad skeptical about Tillerson cleaning house. If the rest of the people that are gone are like Kennedy (he was there over 40 years) it must be that they were retired, not fired. Now, you might say I’m splitting hairs – but the reality is govt civil service is not like corporate employment. All appointees (the folks that get Senate confirmation) serve at the pleasure of the President; beneath them is a layer called SES (Senior Executive Service) – usually selected from senior civil service folks (and I’m not entirely clear on the rules with them, but would presume they do not serve at the President’s pleasure). Finally you get to the civil service, GS crowd. Firing one of them is a challenge even if they have accumulated a vast collection of porn on govt computers, or falsified their time and travel (to name just a couple of causes within the last couple of years).

    So this NYPost talk of Tillerson rings about as fake as much NYTimes does about Trump. He can reassign people – that’s no issue, even to an empty office with no responsibilities (which is a classic gambit to resolve a troublesome govt employee). But that is hardly “cleaning house”.

    1. Exactly. And that’s where I thought Trump was going to run into the most trouble. In his old, company world he could fire employees as he pleased. But things are going to be different under the bureaucratic state. There will be leaks galore. And non-compliance of his exec orders. Trump will be spending all of his time and much of his (small) political capital fighting the “Deep State” (I hate that term but I’m using it out of sheer laziness).

      1. Brett L

        Trump will be spending all of his time and much of his (small) political capital fighting the “Deep State”

        From your lips to God’s ears. Let him stay busy fighting actual enemies of libertarianism instead of implementing Smoot-Hawley II — The Depressioning

    2. Tacit Rainbow

      GS employees are a challenge to fire. They’re the ones that have the union(s), and the majority of the dead weight. I have a family member who’s co-worker had stabbed people and was arrested for assault in the office multiple times, and no one could figure out how to fire her. She eventually died of diabetes-related issues.

      When you get to the SES and similar payscales that have varying levels of OPM involvement, it’s a lot easier to fire them. Not easy, mind you, but easier. In these jobs, there’s often an employment contract that can speed things along.

      1. Akira

        I work at a state prison (as a contractor from a staffing company) and it’s fucking impossible for union employees (AFSCME or SEIU) to get fired. One of the nurses had a dispute with her boss over a clinical decision, and she walked out, then the union got her about six months of paid “stress leave”. There are officers who do absolutely jack shit all day, and everybody knows it, but they can’t be fired because they have 20+ years of seniority and the union would throw a shitfit. The only thing that seems to get people fired is either bringing drugs in or having sex with an inmate, but even that’s not absolute – there’s an officer who fucked an inmate and he still works there; they just moved the inmate to another institution.

        1. DOOMco

          I don’t understand why only a few on the inside see pubsec unions as terrible.

          1. dbleagle

            Even FDDR did not approve of public employee unions. Thanks JFK for starting that train rolling.

          2. DOOMco

            I didn’t realize he started that noise. I hope to see it ended in my lifetime.

    3. He can reassign people – that’s no issue, even to an empty office with no responsibilities (which is a classic gambit to resolve a troublesome govt employee).

      Okay, folks, we have a new project. Read these books by Rothbard, Hazlitt, and Dr. Sowell and keep a daily log of what you’ve read.

  17. Kings County Exile

    Longtime lurker here.
    Fantastic job and a big thank you.
    Greetings from London.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Ontario or England? If the former, my condolences. if the latter, my sympathies.

      1. Kings County Exile

        Limey Central. I want to say it’s not so bad but I’d be lying.

  18. straffinrun

    So what did you get him for President’s day?

    1. The Fusionist

      “The same goes for Mike Brown in Ferguson. Could Brown have reached out to you if he needed help finding college scholarships or advice on interview etiquette?”

      Oh, so he went to that convenience store trying to get a job interview? In that case, maybe some training in interview etiquette might have worked.

      1. trshmnstr

        Idk about you, but I find that threatening interviewers and stealing their wallet does wonders for my chances!

      2. He also glossed over Trayvon Martin’s well documented idiocy.

        Gray is a different story.

        1. Viking1865

          They love to talk about Brown and Saint Trayvon, but they don’t talk much about the kid that got shot in Cleveland, or the kid in NYC that a cop put a bullet in his head because the fucker was practicing poor trigger discipline.

          They’re not interested in reforming police or bringing bad cops to justice, they’re interested in fomenting racial violence.

          1. juris imprudent

            Reforming police or pursuing actual justice doesn’t put progs in power. I’m not entirely convinced that stoking racial discontent does either – but you can’t dissuade them from doing so.

      3. darius404

        Why does this idiot imagine that people can’t just GOOGLE something? Any public library would have an internet connection. How stupid is that author?

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It all boils down to “I’m holier than thou.” And the little bit about a black professor acting gangster until he wanted “white validation” was a indicator that the author has some preconceived notions about race himself (and John’s propensity for mind-reading).

  19. In music news, Modern English is coming out with a new album.

    Holy shit they look ancient. *refuses to look in the mirror*

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Yeah, there’s a band I didn’t miss.

      1. Rhywun

        Their first 2 albums are fantastic – gloomy 4AD stuff. Once they got big – not so much. I picked up the last new album and there’s one decent track but it’s mostly meh.

    2. egould310

      Released just in time to start booking gigs on the County Fair tour circuit. Nothing like a crowd full of 48 year old broads, tipsy on Bud Light, rockin out to some New Wave music, while waiting for the tractor pull to begin.

      1. MikeS

        Go on…

      2. TRACTOR PULLZZZ!

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          Trump is going to make tractor pulls great again. I would imagine there will be a renewed spirit at the tractor pulls this year.

  20. Scruffy Nerfherder

    For Bluster

    The prerequisite for more economic equality in the world is industrialization. And this is possible only through increased capital investment, increased capital accumulation. You may be astonished that I have not mentioned a measure which is considered a prime method to industrialize a country. I mean protectionism. But tariffs and foreign exchange controls are exactly the means to prevent the importation of capital and industrialization into the country. The only way to increase industrialization is to have more capital. Protectionism can only divert investments from one branch of business to another branch.

    Protectionism, in itself, does not add anything to the capital of a country. To start a new factory one needs capital. To improve an already existing factory one needs capital, and not a tariff.

    That’s gotta be worth two deranged SJW links.

    1. juris imprudent

      Interesting semi-contrarian view.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Quickly reading that I take issue with a few things. One, a trade surplus/deficit in of itself is not a bad thing. Two, Conard’s recommendations are simply a reorientation of the same command-control economy, not a return to a free market-based solutions.

        He wants to strengthen the Fed, which has done more to create the “income inequality” problem than any other entity. He just wants to tweak federal student aid for desired outcomes instead of ending it altogether. The import/export scheme smacks of the type of retarded market engineering that carbon credits fall into.

        He wants to end taxes on middle-income Americans and make the tax scheme even more progressive? That’s going to work out great. When fewer and fewer people are (directly) shouldering the cost of government, there will be even less incentive to control expenditures and handouts.

        1. robc

          For one thing, there is no such thing as a trade surplus/deficit.

          1. robc

            As I liked to point out in the 90s, when we had the huge “trade deficit” with the Japanese, we were actually exporting Manhattan skyscrapers and Hawaiian golf courses but those didn’t count for some reason.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Yes, it’s Japan-Derangement Syndrome writ large.

            Although, I miss that we don’t really have any enigmatic Chinese businessman movies like we did back then. Maybe they could remake Rising Sun with Keanu Reeves and Kevin Hart.

        2. juris imprudent

          Ah you cut straight to his policy recommendations – yeah, that’s the weakest part of the article. His descriptions are much stronger than his prescriptions.

          And good point about the Fed and asset inflation – not something he noted as a contributing factor in income inequality.

          I think you misread the income tax bit – he wants a replacement with fees for services (which makes no sense with an expanded EITC – also part of his recommendations).

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      “Fun” fact: While the Ludvig von Mises Institute is not considered by the SPLC to be a hate group, they do consider them amongst a group of organizations “supporting efforts to make bigoted and discredited ideas respectable”, whatever that means.

      You’re right, it is worth two SJW links. Thanks.

  21. Slammer

    Liberal customer story:

    I work across the street from a large Park Slope, Brooklyn hospital.
    Up the block from the store they are constructing a cancer center.
    This finally happened after years of negotiating with the Neighborhood historical preservation group.
    The hospital bought about a half block of brownstone, knocked them down, and are constructing an 8 story building.
    An older woman regular customer comes to my register, and bitches to me about the difficulty of walking the block because of the construction site. (The other side of the street is untouched).

    I say, “You know it’s a CANCER center, right?”

    “Oh yes, I was on the committee who fought it. This neighborhood is supposed to be PRESERVED. They wanted to build more floors, but we got them down! They buy things up, the traffic is bad, there’s no parking…etc. etc.”

    “Right, but it’s a CANCER center.”

    “So they should have built it somewhere else! Huffpuff argle bargle..”

    “Well, it will be nice for the cancer kids, and our business with new customers. So have a nice day, bitch”

    ??????

    1. Swiss Servator

      “I don’t care how many kids die from cancer, I will NOT be inconvenienced!!!!!”

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      This neighborhood is supposed to be PRESERVED.

      Then buy the properties and preserve them. Otherwise shut your piehole.

      1. leonadasiv

        That is the first thing I thought. I hate how many b groups we verify give power to halt stuff that they don’t even own. If the preservation society wants to preserve, perhaps they should buy up some properties.

      2. R C Dean

        We have a couple of historic buildings on our hospital campus. It cost us around a million to rehab the small, easy one. Unfortunately, the big expensive one is pretty well fire-proof (don’t ask how I know), so it can’t just have an “accident”.

        And all because neighborhood busybodies stuck their dicks into our business. Drives me nuts.

        1. Brett L

          the big expensive one is pretty well fire-proof (don’t ask how I know)

          I’m guessing the asbestos remediation cost gave it away.

          1. R C Dean

            Its got some asbestos, but its mostly an old adobe building that’s solid masonry. The only flammable bits are the contents. We actually had a small electrical fire there (Yay!) that did no damage because the structure is concrete and mud (Boo!).

    3. Suthenboy

      I lived in a small, historic Louisiana town for a while. When I first moved there it was great. The town looked like a post card, had tons of college chicks etc etc. It didn’t take me long to figure out that was all a facade. I was 30ish and the college girls were all children. I could get a date at will but as soon as they opened their mouth I wanted to run. The town was crooked as hell and everything was owned and run by about 6 old families.

      They had a hysterical society. When Wal-mart came to town they had to build outside city limits beside one of the main entrances to the town. About 60% of the town was poor and black and those people mostly didn’t have cars, they had to walk to Wal-mart so the town began building a sidewalk along that street out to the store. They hysterical society had fought tooth and nail to prevent the sidewalk construction but lost.

      One evening I am standing in line at the gas station and I just happened to be behind the old woman who was president of the hysterical society. She started complaining to the clerk about the sidewalk construction. The clerk asked why she was against the sidewalk.

      “I dont see why those people need a sidewalk. They have never had one before!”

      I dont think the people who are on the hysterical society boards for the reasons they claim.

      1. Brett L

        Had a friend who ran for and won a seat on the local historical society for the sole purpose of getting his property outside of the historical district. After he got what he wanted, he made sure to vote for whatever changes property owners wanted to make to their properties.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Buy that guy a drink. He’s doing the Lord’s work.

          1. Swiss Servator

            …in some of the toughest neighborhoods in America?

    4. Hyperion

      My neighborhood is full of aging yuppie douchebags. So I know the type very well. We do have a Wholefoods and 2 uber expensive liquor stores though. Outside of that, it’s ‘preserved’.

      1. egould310

        I live in a HPOZ (Historic Preservation Overlay Zone) as well. So three years ago, a big house on a high visibility corner caught fire and burned. Roof gone. Second floor 80% gone. Ground floor gutted. It still sits there, in limbo. Technically it should be torn down, and something new built there. But you can’t tear it down and rebuild because HPOZ. The value before the fire was @ $1.25 million. To rebuild the house will probably run @ $1.5 million. The lot as it is now, will cost @ $700k. But here’s the thing. You’ll have to rebuild the 1913 house. So after spending $2.2m, you still have an obsolete floorplan; no room for a 70″ widescreen, no master suite, no “open floor plan”. And your house will be about 25% over the market value of your neighbors. Good luck getting a loan to even start this endeavor. Hence, the house has been a partially burned down eyesore, in a very nice neighborhood, for the last 3 years. Prediction: it will still be an eyesore in 3 more years.

        1. dbleagle

          We had a National Historic Landmark building where I worked in Cali. The roof needed much work to stop the leaks from destroying the building and it was a major project to get approval to do the required work for only one part of the roof. After over two years we received approval with a laundry list of requirements. Part of the roof was painted and the historically correct paint cost a bit over $2000/gal and had to be applied by small brushes. I forget how much the hand made tiles cost to repair the broken tiles. There is a reason why 80+ years ago tiles were hand made and today they have factories. The small part of the roof we could repair cost around $50K and to do the entire roof will require years. I have some interest in knowing how this winter impacted the building.

        2. Hyperion

          Nothing like a burned out home on the block to give you that nostalgic turn of the century feel.

    5. Rhywun

      the traffic is bad, there’s no parking…etc. etc

      Then move to fucking Long Island. Bitching about traffic in NYC gets really tired.

    6. Akira

      Typical NIMBY attitude.

      Remember when there were plans for a homeless shelter in San Francisco, and the residents fought it tooth and nail? I bet they’re the same people who think they’re being “charitable” and “compassionate” by voting Democrat every single chance they get.

      1. dbleagle

        In Hawaii the “native activists” are trying to prevent a telescope from going up on Mauna Kea. Apparently their gods are cool with 13 scopes but a 14th is a violations of the god’s rights. I was asked to sign a petition to remove the scopes and asked the young person if the natives had treaty rights or title to the land. When they replied “no” I said I would not sign because without title then the natives had no claim I would recognize. I was then informed that “there are things more important than property rights. Things like cultural genocide.” All I could do was shake my head and laugh in their face for which I was called a nazi. THAT certainly influenced me to embrace their views. /sarc/

  22. Zero Sum Game

    The latest (manufactured) outrage about Milo is over some comments he made on a Joe Rogan show implying that he had been sexually abused as a child by a priest. However, it isn’t his opinion that his sexual encounters were abuse, and he is unwilling to name the priest.

    So, as with all intersections of law and morality where there isn’t any clear dividing line of what is or is not absolutely evil, his detractors have fallen on the side of evil and his supporters have come to his aid. Funny, that. I had a lengthy discussion with people about moral relativism and whether they’d feel the same if we were discussing the Japanese, where the age of consent in some areas is as low as thirteen, or Muslims who take child brides in the middle east. I also pointed out that very few people shame a female victim of sexual abuse who refuses to name her abuser. Unsurprisingly, they were unable to determine whether they like moral relativism based on whether it supported their argument for the various cases presented or not.

    As probably surprises nobody, it seems evident that prejudice about a person (based on all the favorite SJW dividing lines and whether the person’s politics align) either pushes the needle toward or away from evil based upon the hierarchy of protected classes. No headway was made in any sort of sensible discussion, and the SJWs left mad and I left irritated with their inability to formulate any rational basis for how they decide who to shame or forgive. Were he a female, there would be a chain of rationalizations prepared to make forgiveness a snap.

    And, of course, it seems to give many exactly the evidence they desired that he is a crazy, evil person whose entire worldview is wrong because he may or may not have been raped as a child. That ignores the counterexample that other people share his views who were not molested as children. But, when did SJWs ever think rationally about anything? Feels > reals all the way for them.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s all projection and principals over principles. That’s all they have.

    2. John Titor

      And, of course, it seems to give many exactly the evidence they desired that he is a crazy, evil person whose entire worldview is wrong because he may or may not have been raped as a child.

      Empathy is clearly not their strong suit.

      1. juris imprudent

        They would have plenty of empathy if Milo had learned the right lesson.

    3. The Fusionist

      There are all sorts of possible reasons for a person not to give details to back up a claim of childhood sexual abuse. I have no idea which reason applies in Milo’s case.

      1. Zero Sum Game

        Hence the murkiness at that intersection of law and morality.

        The law says it’s illegal to have sex a day before a child’s statutory birthday. But that makes for really weird morality – what makes something harmful and morally wrong one day and perfectly acceptable the very next day? It’s not like mental maturity is something we can measure.

        But then, going by statutes alone, we see that the law is applied differently to the sexes. A female adult teacher having sex with a male student very frequently gets a much softer sentence than if the genders are reversed. People love their moral relativism when they need it to hurt their foes and help their friends.

        In Milo’s case, it’s probably super mega evil because the sex was homosexual. But then there’s the mitigating factor (in some jurisdictions) that the perpetrator is a priest.

        By creating this completely arbitrary set of mitigating circumstances in application of the law, we’re admitting that we don’t really know how to approach it morally speaking and we don’t mind injustice towards certain groups over others, especially if they’re also guilty of wrongthink.

        1. Galt1138

          I posted this at TSTWNTB (sorry!). But, it I think it’s relevant. The more I think about what i wrote below, the more I think people are making too much of the so-called “pedophile defense.” I do find what Milo describes off-putting, as an adult ought to know better.

          At the same time, like my gay friends who said they were often the aggressors with older men, I also knew some female friends who were quite aware of their sexuality, and how to manipulate older men with it, at a similar young age. In fact, some of my female friends told me as much at the time (when we were all 14 or 15). It shocked me then, as I didn’t know much about sexual politics. Still, I think there’s something to this idea, and it speaks to an element of teenage sexuality we don’t like to think about, as we all want to believe adults are the ones taking advantage.

          I still find the idea disturbing, and feel adults really SHOULD know better. I must admit, though, that some adults are weak when it comes to temptation and sexual desire.

          Watching the full Rogan podcast again, I think that’s what Milo was talking about. It’s still not right. The context does make it less black and white.

          “This is in no way a defense of what Milo was saying. But, a number of my gay friends all said they were sexually aggressive at 14, the age Milo said he was active with a priest and that they were the ones initiating with older men (20 – 25). They all said they knew exactly what they were doing. Milo said they same thing in the Rogan podcast and made a point to distinguish this from pedophilia.

          Obviously, the adults in these situations should know better, and Milo may not think it was actually pedophilia because he wanted it, even though we think it is. But, I was hearing these kinds of stories from gay friends long before Milo mentioned this on the Rogan podcast.”

    4. Hyperion

      To sum it up, the left’s problem with Milo is that he’s gay and he doesn’t tow the proggy lion. That’s it, there’s nothing more to see.

  23. straffinrun

    Damn. Took a look at a.m. lynx. I think you guys may have actually delivered a lasting and devastating blow. Kinda sad, actually.

    1. John Titor

      Half of the commentariat leaving put the H&R comments on life support, this site is just assisted suicide now.

      1. straffinrun

        They probably don’t care, but still sucks. I came over from a Mises group about 5 years ago because the cosmos were more fun, albeit a bit flakey. Now? Ugh.

        1. Hyperion

          I successfully posted 3 or 4 comments over there, and then next attempt failed in a complete squirrel implosion. It’s worth attempting a comment or two a day over there if there’s a really interesting article, otherwise, I’ll just stick around here.

        2. John Titor

          Reason definitely doesn’t care about the comments in general, I was more talking about their online community. It will be interesting to see what their clicks are like in a couple months if this site maintains viewership.

          1. Juvenile Bluster

            It will devolve into John arguing with Tony and various Shriek socks, all day long.

    2. Pomp

      I still like the articles and despite all the TDS nonsense, the yield of some of my favourite full time writers still is quite good. There aren’t a lot of outlets that produce top notch stuff like they do. I’m definitely not done reading their stuff.

    3. darius404

      My only area of concern is that the comments are even more dominated with shrieky idiots than before.

      1. juris imprudent

        Oh c’mon, watching dajjal melt entirely down is entertainment; perverse entertainment but entertainment still.

    4. Azathoth

      You know, I wasn’t going to say it.

      But damn.

      You can hear an echo over there.

      Even with all the piping.

  24. LynchPin1477

    Even the NY Times is forced to admit that there may be an American Deep State, and that might not be great. Except Trump.

    It’s a slow, painful learning process. Hopefully by the end they’ll figure out that power is a double edged sword. Hopefully….

  25. JD

    I’m new here (and late as always). Are we expected to actually read the links here or just skip to the comments like TSTSNBT?

    1. MikeS

      I click on one or two links to make them feel good.

      1. JD

        Since they are done by volunteer commenters here, I’ll give them a read. But I can barely keep up with the pace of comments here, I don’t know how you all do it.

        1. MikeS

          The Monocle plugin is most excellent. Can bring you right to each new comment after a page reload.

          1. JD

            Thanks. The light blue background helps but I’ll install Monocle on my desktop. I mostly read on my mobile, though.

  26. robc

    On that other site, they posted links to songs about the Presidents, and left off James K Polk by TMBG. I corrected that.

    So question for here: How does Polk rank by libertarian standards.

    I argue despite obvious flaws, surprisingly good.

    1. robc

      Example: Congress passed the Rivers and Harbors Bill in 1846 to provide $500,000 to improve rivers and harbors, but Polk vetoed the bill. It would have provided for federally funded internal improvements on small harbors. Polk believed that this was unconstitutional because the bill unfairly favored particular areas, including ports which had no foreign trade. Polk believed that these problems were local and not national. Polk feared that passing the Rivers and Harbors Bill would encourage legislators to compete for favors for their home districts – a type of corruption that would spell doom to the virtue of the republic. — wikipedia

      1. leonadasiv

        If only people thought like that today…

        1. robc

          People do. They just don’t get elected President.

          1. leonadasiv

            Touche

    2. JD

      Death Cab for Cutie wrote a song about (then candidate) President Trump.

      https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=hOI1F_WCdic

  27. The Fusionist

    “SAN FRANCISCO — About 15 people huddled in a luxury apartment building, munching on danishes as they plotted out their plan to have California secede from the United States.

    ““I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of an independent California,” Geoff Lewis said as he stood in a glass-walled conference room adorned with California’s grizzly-bear flag and a sign reading “California is a nation, not a state.”

    “Sweaty onlookers from the gym across the hall peered in curiously.

    “Bolstered by the election of President Trump, the group, Yes California, is collecting the 585,407 signatures necessary to place a secessionist question on the 2018 ballot. Its goal is to have California become its own country, separate and apart from the United States.”

    Wait for the punch line…

    “Basically, what we’re witnessing is the birth of a nation,” said Tim Vollmer, 57, an academic consultant from San Francisco. “We can lead what’s left of the free world.””

    1. the birth of a nation

      TRIGGERED!

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Evans published a 540-page tome in 2012 on why California should secede

      He sounds like a blast at parties.

      1. juris imprudent

        In ’12? During the glory of the Obama years? Someone should investigate – he must be a subversive!

    3. Swiss Servator

      Maybe they could….make a movie of this?

      1. Slammer

        Imagine if they seceded, and THEN the Big One hit

        1. juris imprudent

          Pre-existing condition.

          1. dbleagle

            I propose their new currency be the “Proggie”

    4. Juvenile Bluster

      So the New California Republic?

      Do we have to watch out for the formation of Caesar’s Legion?

    5. MikeS

      From the article:

      Sue Hirsch, 46, said she is “ashamed to be an American” in the wake of the presidential election.

      “I wanted to be here [at the meeting] to be no longer American, but Californian,” said Hirsch, who voted for Hillary Clinton and said she has at least seven professions, including psychic, Uber driver and hypno-transformative masseuse. “I hate what the rest of America has become.”

      I know I’m just a simple midwestern boy, but WTF is a hypno-transformative masseuse? And more importantly, do they give happy endings?

      1. The Fusionist

        No, but they make you think they have.

      2. Grumbletarian

        I’m not sure, but she had better have a hypno-transformative license!

      3. Suthenboy

        “… voted for Hillary Clinton and said she has at least seven professions, including psychic, Uber driver and hypno-transformative masseuse. “I hate what the rest of America has become.”

        Yeah, I blew part of my sausage biscuit out of my nose when I read that.

        This is like listening to 13 year olds explain why they hate living with mommie and daddy and have a plan to run away and live on their own. These goddamned idiot fruitloops will be stomping their feet and demanding money from the US a year after they leave.

        FUCK. THEM. Please leave motherfuckers.

        1. MikeS

          If you want a really good laugh, here’s another quote:

          They debated how California should handle the military. Maybe their new nation should be neutral, such as Switzerland, they mulled. Where should it get its water? Most of it, they reasoned, comes from the Sierra Nevada and the Colorado River, which are in the state. California, Evans said, is the world’s sixth-largest economy and already has money, so that will be fine.

          1. juris imprudent

            Colorado River within the state of California. These are Vezzini level geniuses.

          2. R C Dean

            Its either not in their state (the upstream bits) or its the border with AZ. And the upstream bits already have a yuuuge dam on them just as they get to CA.

          3. dbleagle

            The states of the “Colorado River Compact” will love to increase their outflows from the river above the Cali pumping stations.

        2. Grummun

          Yeah, I blew part of my sausage biscuit out of my nose when I read that

          And let me tell you, buddy, bits of Jimmy Dean extra spicy rattling around in your sinuses is no fun for anyone.

    6. Grumbletarian

      But before California secedes and becomes a bastion of wokeness, Governor Moonbeam will beg Washington for money to fix a dam that was ignored when Obama was passing out stimulus money.

    7. Suthenboy

      The state that has an agency named “The Board of Equalization” is going to lead the free world.

      I see.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        It’s telling that the chairperson of that agency is named Diana Moon Glampers.

      2. juris imprudent

        You have no idea. When IRS agents are drummed out of the agency, you know who hires them? Yep the California State Board of Equalization. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

        1. Tacit Rainbow

          How…

          How does someone get drummed out of the IRS? What on earth does it take?

    8. Rhywun

      Every time I think how awful NY is getting I just look over at CA and smile.

    9. Ask South Carolina how well that worked out for them.

    10. Pomp

      Please succeed at seceding, #CalExit peoples. Do what the Confederates failed at. Do it.

  28. l0b0t

    I’m sorry, I know this has been explained before but I can’t be arsed to search through the older threads. What is the workaround for Chrome disabling Monocle on every reboot because it did not come from the Chrome Web Store?

    1. Hyperion

      I thought that it wouldn’t happen with the dev version, but it does. Not sure how to stop it, yet. I just remove it and drag it over again and it stays for a while before Chrome goes into nanny-mode again.

      1. l0b0t

        Thanks, I thought there was some sort of workaround involving Tampermonkey but oh well. I tend to leave Chrome running with Battlelog so it’s not much of an issue.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      Check your IRQ settings and clear your cache.

      /nervously awaits SP and Mr. Belt to administer punishment

    3. trshmnstr

      Uninstall Monocle, install tampermonkey from the chrome web store, click this link to reinstall Monocle through tampermonkey.

      That should take care of it for you.

      1. Hyperion

        Thanks trshmnstr.

      2. l0b0t

        Thanks. It is now working properly.

  29. LynchPin1477

    So we all moved over here but STILL don’t have an edit button or quick navigation keys? Are we really going to let *Vox* outdo us???

    1. trshmnstr

      What kind of quicknav keys are you looking for?

      1. MikeS

        trshmnstr; did you ever get the “open in new tab” part of the hyperlink button to work?

        1. trshmnstr

          It works on the Monocle side (if you create a link, you’ll see ‘target=”_blank”‘ in the tag), but I think there’s a server-side thing that strips out all the information from the HTML tag except for the URL. I’m sure it’s some sort of security thing to make sure that bad people can’t hide bad things in perfectly good looking links.

          1. MikeS

            Ah. Gotcha. Well, thanks for all the good work so far. I love it

      2. robc

        Have you seen how SB Nation works? They have a nav key that takes you to next unread message. Also a mark all read key. And new posts don’t require a reload of the page.

        1. trshmnstr

          Yep, I do like the SBNation comments. Monocle does next unread message currently. Mark all read wouldn’t be terrible to implement, so I’ll add it to the Monocle wishlist. Dynamic loading of new posts is a little beyond my expertise level, currently. I played with it for a couple hours last week, but I wasn’t making any headway, so I shelved it for when I have some more time to dedicate to research and experimentation.

          1. robc

            I havent had the time to install monocle yet, so I wasn’t sure what was implemented, just listing the features I like. Next unread is the biggie.

          2. Cliche Bandit

            I like the HN does it both the editing and the voting/karma. Also, I would add that editing needs to be called out and timestamped…with like a diff view. So for example: I write “Swissy and Groovus sitting’ in a tre918707ye.” then I fix it to “Swissy and Groovus sitting’ in a tree.” and there is a + call out on the newly edited post that when clicked show you a git-diff view of the comment with a timestamp…Ohh and I want a unicorn, pony, 1996 Harley Bad Boy, and someone else to write an open source free alternative to ScaleMP.

    2. MikeS

      I used to really want an edit button, too. But I’ve done a 180 on that. I like the feeling of spontaneity. The typos often add some humor as well. I’ve seen mods edit a post or two and for what ever reason, it irritated me. I change my vote to “NO” on the edit button. If anyone cares…

      1. Hyperion

        A timed edit button with no delete would be ok. But in my humble opinion, a preview feature is far more important.

        1. MikeS

          I agree. That would be great. A preview feature would should negate the need for an edit button.

          1. robc

            the other site had a preview that didn’t help at all.

          2. Hyperion

            I definitely would not say it didn’t help at all, at least not from my experience. It helped a lot. Not perfect and a timed edit would still be nice, but much better than no preview at all. Keep in mind, inebriated posting is something that happens a lot here.

          3. robc

            True, I actually used the preview whenever I posted a link, which cut down on SFed links. But otherwise, I just went direct to posting.

          4. Rhywun

            Preview “helped” by being the only way you could predict that the squirrels were up to mischief again.

    3. JD

      I’ve only ever seen one comments section that allowed editing for 15 minutes after the post but can’t remember what system it might have used. I could research.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        SBNation (Vox) allows 90 seconds for editing after you post.

        1. robc

          I think of it as SBNation (edsbs).

      2. Number.6

        Samizdata have that feature.

        Also a great site to visit, but somewhat more serious-minded than many here.

    4. Pomp

      God, you’re so needy

    5. Rhywun

      I’m missing Reasonable’s list of my previous comments but otherwise really appreciating trashy’s great work.

    6. Swiss Servator

      Some of us have an edit button…

    7. Gilmore

      “” Are we really going to let *Vox* outdo us???“”

      Wait a second… Vox has comments? When did this happen?

  30. Gilmore

    NO COMPLAINING

    DON’T MAKE ME BUTTHOLE YOU

    ANNOYING PROCESS COMMENT:

    I demand links (morning, evening, sexy-time) be bullet-pointed. The type of bullet point is up to you, just be consistent.

    I will repeat this annoying comment until my demand is met. You have been notified.

    1. Hyperion

      Just boycott the comments section until all your demands are met.

    2. Brett L

      Is that quick enough for you?

      1. Old Man With Candy

        I had to turn off your sidebars before SP got up and noticed. It would not have gone well for me if she had seen that.

        1. Brett L

          I will do it right next time. I got my mind right, boss. Don’t put me in the box in no more.
          Hey Old Man!

          1. Brett L

            Image test with https

            cheesecake

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Does it make me old that I knew instantly what movie that’s from?

          3. Suthenboy

            Yes. I knew also. What surprised me after seeing her again 40 years later is how unattractive she is. I didn’t notice that before.

          4. Brett L

            Now you know why she was out shakin’ it for the chain gang instead of dating the local banker or his son.

          5. bacon-magic

            I be dat babie’s daddy.

      2. juris imprudent

        I’m torn between admiring good customer service and abhorring yielding to petty demands.

        1. Gilmore

          You will be torn between 4 horses if you dare suggest that proper bullet-pointing is petty.

          [*Disclosure = GILMORE belongs to an obscure cult which believes that mankind’s holy texts will only be properly understood once they have all been broken down into a single PowerPoint presentation, and that PowerPoint is the only medium enabling genuine human understanding; consequently they tend to put an absurd amount of emphasis on the importance of bullet points, margins, and font size]

          1. Brett L

            2 SPACES!

          2. juris imprudent

            “PowerPoint makes us stupid,” Gen. James N. Mattis

            I have a burning white hatred for PP. I once worked for a manager who perfectly described PP long before it existed: Polishing a bar of soap.

          3. Old Man With Candy

            SP: “Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.”

          4. R C Dean

            Using that, OMWC. At today’s executive huddle. Thanks.

          5. Gilmore

            ALL SHALL BE JUDGED WHEN THE LORD CALLS THEM TO THE GREAT CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE SKY; AND YEA, ONLY THE WORTHY WILL BE FIT TO WIELD A LASER POINTER; AND THE WICKED THAT DARE USE ANIMATED TRANSITIONS WILL BE SMITED MIGHTILY, AND SEE THEIR WORKS DASHED

          6. Cliche Bandit

            +1 Comic Sans copy.

          7. Cliche Bandit

            in an unrelated note I read a great article by the author of Comic Sans, basically defending his creation as “I HAD A SPECIFIC NEED” and everyone who used it used it FOR NOT THAT SPECIFIC NEED…so basically stop calling him a douche.

            it was a cool article about how things on the internet can get out of hand

          8. juris imprudent

            Speaking of obscure cults and the destruction of human kind – where is Mr. Lizard?

          9. trshmnstr

            Basking under the glibertarian heat lamp.

          10. dbleagle

            GEN Shelton and Gates both tried to tame the Power Point monster without success. I wish Mattis luck.

      3. Gilmore

        Hmmm.

        “I would also like a foot massage”

        (looks at watch)

      4. JD

        I demand that all the i characters use hearts instead of dots!

        I will repeat this annoying comment until my demand is met. You have been notified.

    3. Gilmore

      NO COMPLAINING

      DON’T MAKE ME BUTTHOLE YOU

      I think editing people’s comments after they’ve made them is…. not cool. That its a public-forum just makes it worse.

      If anything, delete comments if you want to wield dictatorial powers. But changing what people ‘say’…. seems a gross violation.

      That said, a process comment isn’t technically a complaint. Also, its actually a good idea*

      (*i know good ideas. They usually start with “I think….”)

      1. Cliche Bandit

        Read my comment about about solving the moral hazard you imply.

        1. Gilmore

          I looked. was it something about Monocle allowing editing and time-stamping?

          editing needs to be called out and timestamped…with like a diff view. So for example: I write “Swissy and Groovus sitting’ in a tre918707ye.” then I fix it to “Swissy and Groovus sitting’ in a tree.” and there is a + call out on the newly edited post that when clicked show you a git-diff view of the comment with a timestamp…

          I was really just talking about moderators observing some basic ‘rules’. I don’t begrudge them the power to destroy/elimate all who displease them in the process of controlling their domain, but “putting words in other people’s mouths” is… well dangerous stuff.

          1. Cliche Bandit

            right hence my most awesome and shiny solution…cause i am awesome…and shiny. And totally not willing to write that.

          2. Gilmore

            *also – i don’t really give a shit about this instance at all. it was just a second thing to bitch about.

          3. MikeS

            At the risk of angering the Glibgods; I agree with you wholeheartedly.

          4. Swiss Servator

            *rumble of thunder*

            Not really.

  31. Rufus the Monocled

    These links outperformed the AM links.

    At this rate, we’ll be able to pay off our debts in no time!

    1. robc

      We are losing money on each comment, but will make it up in volume!

      1. Cliche Bandit

        This is a dead serious question: Are you who be in charge of this mess planning on some sort of official organization? I recommend some form of protection as well as application for 501c3 status. I WILL donate a decent sum if this site were to start a 501c3. I have several resources that can assist in this manner, plus there must be dozens of lazy ass lawyers who post here that could do something. Also, I have HW in that even you need a backup or some other technical resource. I am looking to start selling Docker containers (no shit, crazy right?) and would be more than willing to give you a free back-up, dumping ground etc.

        1. Cliche Bandit

          BUT ONLY IF I GET A FUCKING EDIT BUTTON!

          /breath…breath…

        2. Swiss Servator

          We are waaaaaay ahead of you. We might reveal ourselves someday in the nearish future.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            Do you know where we could find an actual lawyer?

          2. Cliche Bandit

            I know several…unfortunately.

          3. Old Man With Candy

            I support two of them, thanks to the California family courts.

          4. Swiss Servator

            I know one broken down IL lawyer.

        3. R C Dean

          Protip: As someone who has filed (well, hired someone to file) several 501(c)(3) applications: Do it simultaneously with forming the corporation. Its much easier and faster.

          1. Cliche Bandit

            See, I know an EXCELLENT Atty. who does this all the time. She would probably be very affordable if we keep it simple. As a matter of fact I think she did one I worked on in less than two days.

          2. Old Man With Candy

            I was joking. We have an attorney among us.

            https://youtu.be/jvlEqAjg8aU?t=34

    2. Think long and hard about choosing 501c status. I would never do it unless required by law, such as starting an NCE broadcasting station. Incorporate for profit. Contracts.

  32. Banjos

    Since Fist hasn’t joined us, I think I figured out how he was always the first to post comments.

    1. trshmnstr

      Orphans with lightning-fast typing skills?

      1. Banjos

        It would take many years to train your orphans to get them to be that fast, plus you have to feed them properly to make them strong enough, no no no.

    2. Slammer

      Im torn. I kinda want to know, but don’t want to spoil the magic trick.

      1. Banjos

        I think he’s an IT employee for them.

    3. Viking1865

      Do tell.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      Just lure him with Pittsburgh Penguins tickets. He’ll come.

    5. bacon-magic

      I know the secret…bitcoin/gold are acceptable forms of payment. Muuuahahahahhahhahaha…*coughs*…heh

  33. kinnath

    Hello. I have arrived.

    1. Brett L

      Hello.

    2. JW

      Excellent. Soon, we shall have the band back together.

      1. Cliche Bandit

        HEY, someone needs to tell Viking Moose…he may still be trapped in the alternate dimension.

  34. DOOMco

    Good morning!

    1. Cliche Bandit

      That is subjective you cis-het shitlord.

      1. DOOMco

        It’s not that bad out there, CB.

        1. Cliche Bandit

          I am WFH today…I can project my fears and desires onto the outside world from the comfort of my underwear…we had an outage first thing…so fuck a monday.

          1. DOOMco

            all hands on deck!

  35. Gilmore

    RE: Milo

    For a variety of reasons, this cat is one of those things, “Everyone has an opinion about, but almost no one has actually generated it themselves”

    Each ‘team’ seems to develop their own Pro/Con view depending on what their own team says *about* the guy. which, if you haven’t noticed (see: Soave) tends to be super-short on “quoting” and pretty strong on “citing the reactions of their peers”.

    – (left) ‘people find him offensive’
    or
    – (right) ‘he DESTROYS left wingers!’

    Any reporting about the dude has become almost entirely detached from reality. People will cherry pick some absurd statement/comment he makes, then claim that statement is a sufficient summary of all his various arguments. Hardly anyone seems to bother to take the time to listen to his entire speeches/interviews, and try and digest the entirety of what the guy talks about.

    The “problem with Milo” is not really about Milo himself, but more to do with a poverty within American discourse.

    The American tradition of “Polemics” has been largely confined to right-wing talk radio. But talk-radio is not *really* a form of polemics because arguments there aren’t intended for a general audience, or intended to create any dialogue.

    Aside from Christopher Hitchens, there has almost no one who has taken a ‘dangerous’ argument on the road, and intentionally gone around looking to piss people the hell off.

    When CH said things like, “Belonging to a religion is like voluntarily choosing to live in North Korea”, or said that religious believers were childish and stupid and vain… he meant it, and he intended for those comments to *hurt* people.

    However, the chin-stroking intellectual classes in America mostly applauded Hitchens, and called his approach ‘daring’ and ‘provocative’ and ‘brought a fresh perspective’, etc.

    In short, Polemics is OK when it offends the right people.

    Milo is no Chris Hitchens; he’s at best a pale imitation. But what he is doing should be recognized as part of a long tradition of political and religious argument, and that there’s absolutely nothing especially new or different or wrong or upsetting about his approach. “Hate mongering” is perfectly legitimate. And some of it can even be pretty cogent and intelligent.

    Louis Farakkhan spoke at my college in the early 1990s (*a rich white private U in the south). His audience was very deferential and didn’t get upset when he denounced white people as inherently wicked and evil. And when he didn’t get any reaction, he then decided to analyze “dispassionate whiteness” and point out that the fact that no one got angry was how white people maintained power = by using other people’s emotions as a social disqualifier. “White people only listen when people are calm! Which forces black people to deny their own justified anger. It wins before the fight has started”. etc.

    I remember him making that point and thinking, “he’s a crazy idiot, but that’s sort of interesting”.

    I think Milo is doing a good thing simply by “creating space” where none existed before. He’s opening the door and saying, “conservatives don’t have to be blazer + tie wearing Young Republicans who have tea-+-crackers social events”. You can be flamboyantly gay and hysterically outspoken and confrontational … you can be funny…. you can use whatever means you want to make your points.

    The thing that angers the left most about him is not what he says, but the fact that he’s saying it in a way that makes his ideas seem ‘modern’ and ‘youthful’ and ‘compelling’. That’s what freaks them out. If he were the same jacket+tie wearing, Tucker Carlson type, making similar speeches in a measured tone of voice and gently avoiding offending anyone… no one would care. Instead, Milo talks the way Left Wing Twitter does. And it terrifies them.

    You don’t have to like the guy, or agree with his many (often stupid) positions. But i think the biggest mistake is to misunderstand what he’s doing. Which is what TSTSNBN pretty much entirely did. Which is embarrassing for anyone who describes themselves as ‘free speech advocates’

    1. Tacit Rainbow

      Instead, Milo talks the way Left Wing Twitter does. And it terrifies them.

      Very well-put.

    2. DOOMco

      well put. you’re now on the college/milo beat.

      1. bacon-magic

        by: Gilmore Soave. Not woke af

    3. JD

      This could have been its own post!

  36. Juvenile Bluster

    Today in news that is less than surprising:

    Don’t Look Now, But There’s Another Greek Debt Crisis Brewing

    There’s been a familiar script since the Greek debt crisis erupted seven years ago. Athens balks at austerity measures, but eventually caves to European demands to stay solvent. Europeans tire of Greece’s political leaders, but tolerate them to keep Europe whole.

    Now, the storyline is about to change. European finance ministers are set to blow through a deadline Monday to release a $7.4 billion in bailout funds. Greece needs the money to pay a bill in July, but the International Monetary Fund won’t pony up the cash unless Europe forgives some of Athen’s debt. Germany refuses to do so.

    The group of EU finance ministers known as the “Eurogroup” meet Monday in Brussels to address the situation. They have already conceded nothing will be decided on the funds at the gathering.

    The impasse comes as a wave of nationalist sentiment in Europe is threatening the belief that Greece should remain a part of Europe. Nationalists Marine le Pen in France and Geert Wilders in the Netherlands are climbing in the polls. The Dutch vote in March, while the French vote in April.

    Meanwhile, German Chancellor Angela Merkel is facing a far-right challenge from the anti-EU Alternative for Germany in the fall. Berlin has footed more of the bill of any European country for Greece’s rescue and voters there are getting fatigued. Athens is in a “danger zone,” Ian Lesser, the-Brussels based executive director of the German Marshall Fund’s Transatlantic Center, said.

    Wolfgang Schäuble, Germany’s finance minister and a close ally of Merkel, has said Greece must abandon the euro in order to get debt relief. He has also made clear he will not seek parliamentary approval to release more tranches of the $91 billion Greek rescue fund without the IMF on board. Yet the IMF won’t sign off on a deal unless Greece’s creditors give it a break on what it must repay. The IMF insists that Greece meet GDP projections two percent lower than Europe before it begins to pay back money it has borrowed.

    1. DOOMco

      why can’t they just print it?
      /krugnuts

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        +1 Trillion Drachma coin

  37. trshmnstr

    Lol, our favorite alliterative troll has found the Downfall video and made her presence known.

    1. DOOMco

      Your response was great.

  38. Ken Shultz

    I’ve been around the block with break away sites before, okay?

    So, if we’re gonna play Lord of the Flies here, this time, I don’t want to be the fat kid with glasses.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Alright Samneric

    2. Cliche Bandit

      I would not classify this as a breakaway site. This seems to be a “new” site where people can have legitimate libertarian discourse. The fact that people from other sites have come here is more a testament to the quality rather than some form of collectivism.

      tl;dr
      I vote we eat Ken first.

      1. Gilmore

        I would not classify this as a breakaway site.

        I also am of the perspective that this is not a ‘compliment’, but a replacement.

        1. R C Dean

          I’m with G. This is not a supplement to TSWSNBN, it is an alternative/replacement. A spin-off, perhaps, give the roots of the Glibertarians.

          1. DOOMco

            How long did it take for the Americans to not be called Europeans?

    3. Cliche Bandit

      Also, we are NOT the People Front of Judea.

    4. Number.6

      No conch for you, boy…

    5. Slammer

      Nice. Bout time got here, Ken.

    6. MikeS

      I’m very glad to see you here. One of my very first posts at the other place was to ask a newbie question about some libertarian topic. You took the time to write a very complete and informative response. And you were even nice about it!

    7. bacon-magic

      Welcome Ken. What led you here?

      1. Ken Shultz

        I like you guys!

        1. bacon-magic

          Awwwwww…notice that you can contribute articles/blogs too. I expect some word salad for me to zone out on soon, mister.

        2. Number.6

          uhh, when I hear those words, I can’t help hearing “so, you’ll be the last to die!” tacked on afterwards.

  39. Number.6

    I think if we all carry on doing the reading we do, from all the sources we do, and people post links and pithy criticism, there should be plenty of content to critique and ridicule.

    I think it’d be a mistake to brand or consider ourselves as “The Deplorables formerly of Hit’n’Run”, the fit always seemed to me as though someone had grafted the Ace of Spades commentariat onto The Weekly Standard or National Review.

    1. Swiss Servator

      We are our own thing – this will continue to be more and more evident as time goes on, and we can continue to improve the site and find the voices (all of you included!) that can reach even more people.

      If any other site became all we wanted, tomorrow, we would still keep doing this.

      Let us all leave the old site out of this.

  40. Plisade

    I didn’t comment much on Reason.com but I’m a daily reader. Cool thing you guys got going here!

    1. Cliche Bandit

      Thats a nice comment board ya got there. Be ashamed if some Mary happened to it…

    2. Words of wisdom Lloyd, my man. Words of wisdom…

    3. Ownbestenemy

      Boycotting is for scrubs….long time reader of Reason never delved into the cesspool of the blacker commenting clique