Monday Afternoon Links

What a day.  And its just the first day of the work week for most of us.  But rather than bore you with the details of my day, let’s get right down to it, shall we?

Libertarian squirrel? Or the most libertarian squirrel?

Squirrels get hunted during squirrel season and sometimes to raise funds for charity.  Some people don’t like that and want it stopped. (Since when aren’t squirrels considered nuisance animals that can be shot at will?)

Agatha Christie meet Mr Roboto.  Or something.  I didn’t read the piece but was told it was really interesting.  Hell, for all I know its cold fusion all over again.

Not exactly what Rahm envisioned.

Looks like Trump is about to draft an executive order that is at odds with the recent 4th Circuit decision regarding the Second Amendment.  Where do you libertarians fall when an executive order runs afoul of a bad liberty-robbing court decision?

The Minnesota police officer that shot Philando Castille has pleaded not guilty.

And in the latest (actually the first, but it might become a thing) “No Shit, Sherlock” News, Rahm Emanuel’s “people place” idea for open spaces is bereft of…people.

Enjoy the rest of the day, my fine friends.

 

Comments

361 responses to “Monday Afternoon Links”

  1. __Warren__

    Looking over the legal stuff for this site they claim they are not responsible for damage! So they can nut-punch you all day long and skip away happy!

    1. __Warren__

      And of course they’ll skip, and maybe saunter.

      1. Negroni Please

        I believe gambol is the appropriate lingo

        1. Kool

          Oh god, what if he found out about this place.

          1. Then it’ll be a round of cat- asses for everyone!

  2. jesse.in.mb

    SOAAAAVVEEEE

  3. F. Stupidity Jr.

    Agatha Christie meet Mr Roboto.

    Domo Arigato, sloopy.

    1. Agatha Christie disappeared for 11 days in about 1926.

      1. Rhywun

        She was with Dr Who.

  4. Mad Scientist

    The neighborhood squirrel, who thinks my macadamia nut tree is his personal buffet, could use a nice whacking.

    1. jesse.in.mb

      Get your nut, MS, rub out the squirrel problem.

      1. Mad Scientist

        I’ll run the idea up the pole with my wife and see if she finds it too hard to swallow.

    2. MikeT86

      Nice Wankel.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        More efficient but dirtier than turning the crank.

    3. Suthenboy

      “…my macadamia nut tree…”

      Oh? Where are you? I have tried to get them to grow here and they just won’t. I think if I moved a hundred miles south they would but I am right on the border of the growing zone where they just won’t grow. I am jealous.

      1. Suthenboy

        Oh. also Mad Scientist- I spent an entire growing season knocking squirrels out of my pear trees. The little bastards would pick the pears, eat a dime-sized hole in them, eat the seeds out and then toss the pears on the ground. I killed somewhere around a hundred of them that season. At the end of the season I didn’t have a single pear and there was no noticeable change in the squirrel population.

        1. Pomp

          What in the manner? Why do you reckon they bore through just to ear the seeds.

        2. Brain

          Squirrels are good eatin

          1. Pope Jimbo

            Squirrels are my favorite game food.

            The wife and daughter won’t touch them, but the two boys are on my side.

        3. Pope Jimbo

          We have an apple tree in the back yard that I probably take 10-15 squirrels out of every year with a Gammo pellet gun.

          What I find interesting is that the squirrels have figured out that there is about a 15 yard zone where I can shoot them without worrying about the neighbors. In the death zone they become as skittish and wary as any deep woods squirrel. However as soon as they are out of that zone, they instantly revert back to fat, sluggish city squirrel.

          It is frustrating to sneak out on the deck only to be spotted at the last second and have them scamper two trees over and have them just sit there.

      2. Mad Scientist

        Southern California. The tree is taller than my house and, to be fair, has more nuts than the squirrel and I can eat.

  5. mikey

    Monday?
    Oh. I remember those. But I retired this past Fall and now everyday is Saturday.
    Thing is, now that I’m not tied to a desk and computer all day all week I don’t have as much time to spend with y’all.
    BTW thanks everyone (well not the Kanukastahnis) for helping finance my leisure.

  6. Tundra

    What are you singing in that pic? My Way?

    1. Private Chipperbot

      “Stop. In the name of Love…”

      1. Bobarian LMD

        And why is he wearing old time prison stripes?

    2. Agent Cooper

      Darling, reach out
      Reach out, for me.
      I’ll be there to love and comfort you… (tell me baby)
      I’ll be there with the love I’ll see you through
      Now when you’re lost and about to give up
      ‘Cause your best just ain’t good enough
      And you feel the world has grown cold
      And you’re driftin’ on your own
      When you need a hand to hold
      Darling, reach out
      Reach out, for me.

    3. SugarFree

      “Once upon a time in there was light in my life, but now there’s only love in the dark.”

      1. Private Chipperbot

        I imagine it’s the Dan Band version.

      1. DOOMco

        It’s clearly a nazi salute.

      2. Tundra

        *taps toe*

        1. jesse.in.mb

          *taps toe in response*

          1. Tundra

            Goddamit, jesse, I’m trying to listen to some musics here!

          2. jesse.in.mb

            *awkwardly retracts foot from under stall divider*

            Sorry I thought we were Larry Craiging the shit out of MSP.

          3. __Warren__

            Is that your wide stance on the matter?

          4. Pope Jimbo

            HEY!

            Don’t diss MSP bathrooms. They were voted the best in America.

            I can only assume that the PR firm that did this stupid contest was unaware of the Larry Craig angle.

  7. DOOMco

    Alright! Drinking hour already?

  8. DOOMco

    That squirrel needs a gun to be the most libertarian.

    1. Zunalter

      How about just a bullet?

  9. Juvenile Bluster

    Squirrels get hunted during squirrel season and sometimes to raise funds for charity. Some people don’t like that and want it stopped. (Since when aren’t squirrels considered nuisance animals that can be shot at will?)

    Because Doreen Green is awesome and she’ll fuck you up if you try to hurt a squirrel.

    1. Lachowsky

      I have a lean-to on my shop that I have turned into my grilling/socializing place. I have a nice railing around it and a poured concrete floor. I have 4×8 sheets of insulating board as a ceiling. I havery in my back yard two pecan, one walnut, one pear, and one apple tree. Many a squirrel has taken residence on my place.

      About a year ago, I walked out my back door and day something amiss at my shop. It looked like one of the insulation boards had fallen down. Upon further investigation, I found that when the board fell, it dumped hundreds of walnuts and pecans into my open grill. The squirrels had been storing nuts on top of my ceiling, successfully, until a critical mass was reached and the whole thing came tumbling down.

      On that day, I declared war on my squirrels. With my savage .22, I have killed dozens of squirrels since. In season, out of season, morning, afternoon, evening, rain or shine, summer or winter, I have killed the squirrels. Their population is dwindling, yet more work is needed. One day I will achieve their eradication.

      1. Mad Scientist

        Get yourself a squirrelapult!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Ya6z-NlDo

        1. Lachowsky

          That’s awesome. I have some bungee straps in my shop. I like tinkering and I am something of a redneck, so…

      2. Agent Cooper

        Did you also roast some pecans?

      3. westernsloper

        I Duck Duck go’d recipes for squirrel with pecan glaze. Nothing.

      4. Suthenboy

        No, you won’t. Been there, done that. You cant win. You might as well bail the ocean with a spoon. As soon as you kill one the surrounding population sends in replacements. What you will do is what I have done to my carpenter bees; they will evolve behavior that makes them exponentially more difficult to get rid of.

        1. Lachowsky

          wrong attitude suthern. I will prevail. These squirrels want a war, and that’s what they’ll get. I can escalate. chemical, biological, and psychological warfare are all still on the table. If need be, I will burn the place and salt the earth.

          1. Take it easy there, Barack Obama. Squirrels are the JV team of rodentia. They should pose no problem.

        2. Brett L

          Cats, man. My cat loved baby squirrel. After 5 years there were no more tree rats in my yard

          1. Pope Jimbo

            We have a tree in the back yard that has a small rabbit den under the roots. Every year it would be used by a rabbit mama and every year my mutt would discover them and spend the afternoon digging them out, throwing them around the back yard for a bit and then eating them.

            One year the mutt found the rabbits on the same afternoon that our neighbors were having a back yard b-day party for their 4-year old. The neighbors were pretty cool about it and distracted the kids for a few minutes while I dragged the dog inside.

          2. RambleJack

            If you weren’t you I’d swear you’re me. My kelpie feasted on rabbit in my front yard as a 5k ran buy.

  10. Negroni Please

    “The Minnesota police officer that shot Philando Castille has pleaded not guilty.”

    I thought libertarians were supported the Castille Doctrine. Good shoot.

  11. Tundra

    Fucking coffee place blocks TTAG. Grrrr.

    1. Tundra

      Where do you libertarians fall when an executive order runs afoul of a bad liberty-robbing court decision?

      It’s an imperfect stopgap, but I hate the language. It needs to read something like:

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      Then you start prosecuting anyone who does.

      1. westernsloper

        That is along the lines of what I was going to post.

        I think the order should read:

        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. This being a constitutional requirement, I hereby call on Congress to carry out their constitutional obligation to remove, by impeachment, any Federal Judge who infringes on this Constitutional right.

        Signed, Heir Trumphitler

        PS: Lick my orange left nut. Have a nice day 🙂

        1. Tundra

          Love it!

          The smiley face is the perfect close.

        2. DesigNate

          Nicely done.

    2. SQWRLZ

      (This list could be expanded or replaced by a broad definition)

      Yeah, what about AKs? “The Other Black Gun”. Why semi-autos? Why 30 ROUNDS??? I have drums, dammit, DRUMS! Are those not militia-y?

  12. The Fusionist

    The Washington Post editorial board thinks they’re a bunch of Vulcans

    “Logic wins out on a Maryland gun law…

    “The court’s dissenters argued that military-style rifles and large-capacity magazines are popular tools for self-defense and other legal activities, and as such the government has practically no latitude to restrict ownership of them — or, in effect, to do much of anything else in the realm of gun control. This is illogical; an extremely lethal weapon may be popular, but that does not make it constitutionally protected. Moreover, “the weapons that Maryland sought to regulate here are emphatically not defensive in nature,” Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson III responded in a concurring opinion. “If this statute is struck down, it is difficult to see what class of non-automatic firearms could ever be regulated. If these weapons are outside the legislative compass, then virtually all weapons will be.”

    “Neither the majority on the 4th Circuit — nor a reasonable reading of the Constitution — demands that extreme result.”

    1. bacon-magic

      Live long and propaganda.

    2. Agent Cooper

      Bring on the Howitzers.

    3. leonadasiv

      Other than explosives (bombs really), how can you claim something to be strictly non defensive in nature? It’s all about how the weapon is used. A rifle neither lends itself to offensive or defensive use.

      1. You can use explosives defensively: blow up the Bridge at Remagen or the bridge too far in Arnhem.

        1. BakedPenguin

          Or the one over the River Kwai. Whistle while you work…

        2. Grumbletarian

          Yes, but that doesn’t make explosives ‘defensive in nature,’ whatever the hell that’s supposed to mean.

        3. leonadasiv

          It’s a good point. I was thinking mostly bombs dropped out of a plane. My line of reasoning was. To use an explosive you really would have to go out of your way for it to work without it hurting yourself.

      2. Lachowsky

        I’d add that 2nd Amendment says jack shit about defensive weapons.

      3. Suthenboy

        I think you misunderstand what the Judge was saying.

        Let me translate for you: Fuck you. Fuck you very much.

    4. And they wrote it safely behind the cadre of armed security guards one must pass before entering their building.

      1. PapayaSF

        They probably show their photo IDs on the way in to write about how requiring IDs for voting are racist.

    5. Gilmore

      an extremely lethal weapon

      I sense a movie-reboot in the making

      followed by a romantic-comedy franchise titled, “Extra-Pregnant!”

    6. Grumbletarian

      Dear Judge Wilkinson,

      Are there any firearms that are ‘defensive in nature’? What does that mean, specifically, and can you name any firearms that meet that definition objectively?

      1. GreenMiner

        Fixed guns?

      2. leonadasiv

        See my comment above. Any weapon (Ted S. pointed out a defensive use for bombs) can be used defensively. The Judges remarks are a peak of idiocy, that ascribes an attribute to weapons that they don’t have (offensive use or defensive use) because that attribute is defined by how a person uses it.

        1. SQWRLZ

          I approve this analysis.

    7. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      You’d think it would be unnecessary to explain a subjunctive clause to a bunch of professional writers, yet I always get into it because the default lead on these things is the “militia purposes” argument. What I find more depressing is that Judges similarly lack the skills to logically parse language. Perhaps clinically, I think they might just ignore the logically conclusive arguments in keeping with the school of legal realism.

      1. Mad Scientist

        They care about the language only insofar as they need to twist it to fit their position. The actual plain meaning can go fuck itself.

        1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          Arguing words don’t mean what they mean is one thing, choosing to disregard syntactic rules of grammar is another. In the first case, laws have different but determinate outcomes. In the second, laws have no determinable outcome because you’re no longer speaking a recognizable language. This has on occasion scored some points as it allows me to accept, for the sake of argument, whatever ridiculous position of what “arms” means and still establish the firm conclusion that a right to arms is not tied to militia membership. Presuming, of course, that the progressive I’ve engaged also accepts that the United States are “free states.” They’re generally unwilling to say otherwise.

          But to your point, yes. From what I’ve seen there are plenty who will willfully ignore ‘inconvenient’ cannons of statutory construction.

      2. The Last American Hero

        If some people could go back in time, they’d kill Hitler. I’d tell Madison to take that clause out. When he started protesting, I’d just say “Trust me, Jimmy. I’m from the future and it would best for all of us if you just left that clause out.”

        1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          You and me both. I’ve often wondered how that might of changed things. Though, I think there is a decent argument for keeping it in as much as it also establishes a right to form regulated militias. Constitutional protections for regulated militias are a good counterpoise to a government that might enforce tyrannical law with a standing army. I can see that being an important concern to the Framers as they ultimately chose to give the federal government power to form an army.

  13. Juvenile Bluster

    Looks like Trump is about to draft an executive order that is at odds with the recent 4th Circuit decision regarding the Second Amendment. Where do you libertarians fall when an executive order runs afoul of a bad liberty-robbing court decision?

    I think it means we nuke DC and we drop a bomb on the circuit courthouse.

    1. The Fusionist

      I think it’s an order that the people on that site *want* Trump to issue, not an order he’s actually considering.

    2. Brett L

      Its days like this when I become firmly an anarchist.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      What’s the latest news on that decision? Does anyone have an idea of the likelihood of the Supreme Court agreeing to hear the case?

    4. Hi, Preet. How you doing today? Nice weather up there in Brooklyn? That’s nice.

      Now listen, Preet. You gotta forgive my buddy, JB up here. He just quit smoking and drinking in the same weekend. He’s a little on edge. He’s not gonna go nuclear on DC and he’s not gonna drop a bomb on the 4th Circuit Courthouse. He’s just blowing off a little steam that developed during his withdrawals. He’s ok, and in case he goes off the reservation, we’ve got a couple guys looking after him.

      Take it easy. Everything is fine.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Preet can go straight to Hell.

        (wait, hold on, somebody’s pounding on the door. I’ll be right back…)

        1. Well, it was fun while it las…hold on. Somebody’s at my door now.

      2. Rhywun

        Brooklyn?! Manhattan. Brooklyn is in the Eastern District.

        1. The Fusionist

          Wait until everyone figures out that the 4th Circuit isn’t in New York.

        2. Jimbo

          They all look the same to me.

  14. bacon-magic

    Squirrels are tasty.

    1. jesse.in.mb

      Prions would explain an awful lot here.

      1. bacon-magic

        Don’t make me google words. I stand by my statement. ? are tasty too.

        1. MikeS

          Squirrel is delicious wrapped in bacon.

          1. bacon-magic

            Yes.

          2. Lachowsky

            wrap in bacon, put a jalapeño in the middle, then grill over hardwood.

            Remove when cooked, eat the bacon and jalapeño, and throw the squirrel to the dog.

            *this recipe also works for dove, possum, lowland woodpecker, kingfisher, armadillo, rabbit, beaver, and Bald Eagle.

          3. MikeS

            *this recipe also works for dove, possum, lowland woodpecker, kingfisher, armadillo, rabbit, beaver, and Bald Eagle.

            And for the Minnesota residents, don’t forget to add Loon to that list.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Mad squirrel disease? I hope that’s not a thing.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, it’s what’s for dinner.

          1. bacon-magic

            Way to ruin mealtime Jesse…

          2. bacon-magic

            My grandfather loved squirrel brains. Never tried them myself.

          3. Suthenboy

            Easy peasy. Skin the heads, remove the eyeballs. Save up a few dozen. Boil in chicken stock with onion, salt and garlic. Dip them out with a slotted spoon one at a time. Eat the jaw muscles first then the tongue. Warning: the tongue has a bone in it. Then pull straight up on the nose and the bridge of the nose and the frontal plates will come off exposing the brain. It will be firmish and easy to remove. Douse generously with hot sauce and pop in your mouth. They are surprisingly good. If you try one you will probably over eat.

            Next call your doctor and ask for prescription cholesterol meds.

          4. westernsloper

            What the holy hell?

            Someone was really hungry to be the first dude to try that.

          5. So its akin to eating blue crabs?

          6. Warning: the tongue has a bone in it.

            The hyoid bone, to be precise

          7. Stinky Wizzleteats

            There’s just something about the prion diseases that give me the heebie jeebies.

          8. Suthenboy

            No, I think the heebie jeebies are different. They are something you catch in the penny booths in the back of adult bookstores.

          9. thrakkorzog

            It’s a good thing you don’t have to worry about any of that from beef. Except for Mad Cow disease.

  15. Sonoran Desert Rat

    A couple of years ago, you’d have thought they were gonna kill everycritter in the desert here. The people complaining are the same ones that also get upset when they find out where fluffy and fido are on the local food chain

    1. Sonoran Desert Rat

      Cool, Monocle worked for me. Yay!!!

      1. dbleagle

        I worked a couple of years at Oracle State Park. One of our youth programs included using scat to show the students what predators ate. One time opening a coyote scat I found along the it was apparent that house cat had been on the menu. The boys thought it cool and the girls were “aaaagh” .

        Good luck trying to control coyotes through shooting. Multiple studies have found that successful pupping goes up as competing males goes down.

  16. Juvenile Bluster

    Via WaPo:

    Trump to propose increasing defense spending by 10%, or $54 billion, by making cuts to most other federal agencies

    Because we’re underspending so badly on the military, we truly need to spend more!

    *slices wrists*

    1. DOOMco

      The last bit sounds good though.
      And really, we need to cut all of em by at least 10%

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Well yeah. I’m totally fine with the other cuts.

        But we should be cutting defense spending by AT LEAST 10% (preferably far more). To cut the other programs but then increase the defense budget is pointless.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Should be cutting military 10% a year.

          1. Francisco d’Anconia

            After amending the NMS to something defensive in nature, it could CERTAINLY be cut in half.

      2. Tundra

        And really, we need to cut all of em by at least 10%.

        Fixed it.

        1. DOOMco

          (SLD)

      3. JB slicing his wrists sounds good to you?

        1. __Warren__

          Who doesn’t like sliced ham?

        2. DOOMco

          aw.
          JB don’t do it! We love you!

          1. __Warren__

            But if you do, slice with the grain not against!

          2. Sonoran Desert Rat

            + down the road, not across the street

    2. John Titor

      *Salivates at the idea of a 10% increase to the Canadian military budget, orgasms at the idea of $54 billion*

      I’m sorry, what?

      1. __Warren__

        Finally you’ll be able to afford to give Captain Canada his own indestructible shield made of poutine and maple syrup.

        1. John Titor

          We call it the Canadian Shield.

          1. __Warren__

            Now I’ve gone an learned something again.

          2. Suthenboy

            The Canadian shield. Here’s more: The Canadian shield is not only some of the oldest rock on the planet, it is some of the hardest. A friend of mine was working a mine there doing ore surveys. They drill holes in a grid shape over the ore body and 3d map the size, shape and thickness of the ore body. That way they know exactly how much and where to dig and can predict expenses over the life of the mine before it is even built. He was having to replace his diamond drill bits twice per day as they wore out so quickly in that hard-ass rock. Once, right before a holiday of some sort the shipment of expensive diamond bits was late and he ran out of bits. He couldn’t shut down the operation for days and days so he flew down to the nearest city and looked around. He found a hardware store that supplied the local well drillers and bought some cheapo carbide bits. Better than nothing, right?

            Those carbide bits ate the hell out of that rock. He found he could use the carbide bit for several days before it needed replacing and they cost 1/10 of the diamond bits. He was very excited and threw together a technical report and shipped it off to headquarters post-haste. He was going to be a hero and save the company a ton of money.

            The next day he received his pink slip.

            Turns out the parent company for the mining operation was DeBeers.

          3. Mad Scientist

            Laurasia had all the best cratons.

          4. SQWRLZ

            But diamonds are so precious and rare! Can U blame them?

          5. The Last American Hero

            I thought that the Canadian Shield was the US military that kept you from becoming West Russia.

    3. Not an Economist

      Without getting into the amount of money spent on DoD, you could make the argument the DoD does need more money than normal. Not only have we been using the troops hard the last 15 years we have been using the equipment hard as well. Even if we brought all the hardware back immediately much of it needs massive amounts of maintenance if not replacement.

      The level of spending (or really the level of DoD commitments) is another argument. We could save money if we reduce the level of work we make the DoD do.

      1. DOOMco

        On that, anyone know when the humvees and other trucks will start to be sold off? My CAD teacher and his friends bought 7 jeeps together after Vietnam I think. It was four of them, so they almost all had a parts one to themselves.

        1. Not an Economist

          Look here.

          1. DOOMco

            oooOOOoo
            *skips off*

      2. Viking1865

        You could build a lethal force that could preserve American security for probably a quarter or less than currently is being spent. What you could not do with that amount of money is maintain the peace and security of the world, unfortunately.

        1. What you could not do with that amount of money is maintain the peace and security of the world

          1. Viking1865

            Obviously you start quibbling about the definition of “peace and security”, but the Pax Americana is a real thing, just like the War on Drugs and the Great Society are real things. Doesn’t make them good things, but they are real things. It has costs and benefits, and getting rid of it will have costs and benefits.

          2. I was being a bit glib, but I think Pax Americana is different than the WOD or GS. The latter refer to specific actions taken by the US government. The former is a theory of why things are the way they are.

          3. Viking1865

            The Pax Americana isn’t a theory. The network of bases, the nuclear arsenal, the fact that the US Navy is larger and more capable than the rest of the world’s fleets combined and then some, the fact that the US has been the actual muscle behind the post WWII international system, these are the result of delibirate policy choices, exactly like the WOD and the GS. It’s all just different flavors of Big Government.

          4. Perhaps I have the wrong impression of the term. I see it as WOD = real thing; the idea that it caused downward trend in crime = theory. Global military presence = thing; the idea that it caused peace and stability (Pax Americana) = theory. If PA simply means a US global military presence I’ll need to adjust my understanding of the term.

      3. Francisco d’Anconia

        ^^^THIS!

        Change the strategy. THEN cut it in half.

        1. R C Dean

          Strategy first, budget second.

  17. __Warren__

    I like this Monocle!

  18. From the Agatha Christie meets Mr. Roboto link:

    World’s Only Sample Of Metallic Hydrogen Disappears In Lab

    It melted.

    1. Tonio

      [golf clap]

  19. The Late P Brooks

    “the weapons that Maryland sought to regulate here are emphatically not defensive in nature,”

    “I just don’t want to get killed for lack of shooting back.”

    1. Brett L

      Really? Just how do they plan on defending themselves from a gang of 5-6 people in a chaotic environment? It would be great if every shot landed, but my personal theory is that anyone worth shooting is worth shooting at least 3 times.

      1. OneOut

        He needed killin”.

    2. Francisco d’Anconia

      +3 pistols and one arm

  20. Lafe Long

    Can someone tell me wtf I’m reading here?

    Queering the Virgin: Evangelical World-Making and the Heterosexual Crisis

    This interpretive essay reads US evangelical purity culture through queer theory demonstrating that the evangelical investment in virginity now produces the evangelical virgin as a politicized subaltern subject position. Aspects of purity culture including purity balls are theorized as undertaking an unexpectedly queer world making project.

    1. __Warren__

      These are all words I recognize.

    2. jesse.in.mb

      Sorry, I’m woefully behind on my queer theory. I could track down a college buddy or two could successfully parse this, but to me it’s a Jackson Pollock of philosophy gobbledygook.

    3. SugarFree

      Through interpretative readings informed by queer theory, I analyze the queer affinities that permeate purity culture and virgin consciousness. I argue evangelical purity culture is an anti-normative world-making project anchored in a logic of sexual exceptionalism that defines evangelical purity against secular heterosexual promiscuity and various homosexual formations. Importantly, lesbian, gay, and bisexualities figure less prominently in purity culture than dangerous heterosexuality since it is a subpar heterosexual lifestyle that evangelicals are concerned will seduce them. Moreover, it is a sexual version of heterosexuality that they seek to replace.

      This should clear it up.

      1. Tundra

        *reads twice*

        Nope.

        1. John Titor

          “Christfags no like straight sex, Christfags all secretly want to be pegged.”

      2. Negroni Please

        how the fuck is purity culture anti-normative? Isn’t it the fucking definition of normative?

        1. __Warren__

          It’s the anti-fucking definition.

          1. Negroni Please

            narrowed gays

        2. SugarFree

          Let me boil it all the way down for you:

          Evangelicals are totally gay.

          1. Suthenboy

            Come into the closet and pray with me brother?

        3. jesse.in.mb

          Currently? No. Purity culture is very much a subculture and not the norm and it’s heavily inflected with a back-in-the-good-old-days utopianism.

          1. commodious spittoon

            Back in the good old days nobody wrote like that.

          2. juris imprudent

            Yes they did – it was just in Latin.

          3. Negroni Please

            it’s not the norm, but it is normative. As in the weirdos who live in that culture are making a positive statement about normative values.

      3. DOOMco

        That’s from that artist statement creator website isn’t it.

        1. SugarFree

          The entire journal article might be.

      4. Suthenboy

        I dont really know what any of that useful idiot babble means and I am deliberately avoiding finding out. I will say this:

        I asked my uncle once why he only dated Pentecostal girls (definitely a breed apart). “Them pennycostah girls only like doin’ two thangs – saingin’ and fuckin’!”

        Common saying here about those girls: They might be buttoned up to here (gestures to neck) but they aint wearin’ no panties.

        When I was younger I was very skeptical about that so I did some personal research. I can confirm that both of those are true.

    4. Negroni Please

      You’re reading typical grad student bullshit. Misused I might add. I don’t see how the evangelical virgin is subaltern as typical PoMo bullshit recognizes evangelicals as part of the hegemonic power structure.

    5. WyoDave

      My brain hurts!

    6. Volren

      Huh.

      What’s a purity ball?

      1. John Titor

        Great place to get laid.

        1. Tundra

          Some balls are held for charity…

          1. Juvenile Bluster

            and some for fancy dress…

          2. SugarFree

            And some just for their comforting weight.

          3. Lafe Long

            C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!

      2. SugarFree

        Daddy/Daughter prom. The daughter gives her virginity to her father for safekeeping and gets a ring in return. It’s really, really fucked up when you get right down to it, but not much more fucked up than the myriad other ways people fuck their kids up.

        1. __Warren__

          I taught mine the history of Canada.

          1. Tundra

            =”http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/dcayer190/6237a176.jpg”>I bought mine one of these.

          2. Pat

            A photobucket subscription? What kind of sick bastard…

          3. __Warren__

            You wanna try that again?

          4. __Warren__

            Sweeeeet! (No sarc)

          5. Tundra

            Seriously, she’s a little too old for Hello Kitty, but she did ask the other day if she could get purple.

            Of course you can!

          6. DOOMco

            Did you really? Cool.

          7. Tundra

            No, not yet 🙂

            But she does want a stylish handgun. She’s that kind of girl!

          8. DOOMco

            Very cool!

          9. John Titor

            You’re doing something right Warren.

        2. commodious spittoon

          It’s really, really fucked up when you get right down to it

          It could be a whole lot worse.

          1. __Warren__

            A corpse being offered another drink, the bloodstained thighs of a maidenhead lost, dead rats (for luck), three days of religious celebration when God is dead, and a ritual for the whole village so secret that a visiting stranger is locked up: these are just some of the strange, wonderful images that remind us more of the Wicker Man than modern day Peru. But in a country where many rural areas are still isolated and barely accessible, where Christianity made its mark more in name than in spirit, and where the outback life is rarely depicted in Western cinemas, Madeinusa comes as a shock, a spellbinding insight, and a refreshingly different fable.

          2. commodious spittoon

            It’s a good film if you don’t mind subtitles.

          3. People mind subtitles?

        3. Suthenboy

          Yep. Thats creepy. I pointed that out to my parents when I was a teenager and first learned of it. They didn’t know what to say. Apparently it does come from some older pagan traditions where they didnt do that symbolically.

          I know damned well you wrote out ‘daddy/daughter prom’ knowing full well how everyone would read it on the first pass. Well done.

    7. Gilmore

      Can someone tell me wtf I’m reading here?

      Its a message to Texas taxpayers, saying, “you are spending too much on your colleges”

  21. MikeS

    I think the lady in that squirrel story is nuts.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    This interpretive essay reads US evangelical purity culture through queer theory demonstrating that the evangelical investment in virginity now produces the evangelical virgin as a politicized subaltern subject position. Aspects of purity culture including purity balls are theorized as undertaking an unexpectedly queer world making project.

    Run it through the blender again. It’s still lumpy. Then add the tequila and limeade.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    virgin consciousness.

    A brain uncontaminated by rational thought?

    1. Pat

      Shut it down folks, thread is won.

  24. commodious spittoon

    Where do you libertarians fall when an executive order runs afoul of a bad liberty-robbing court decision?

    They have to fight it out in the Lawctagon.

    1. Volren

      I am in favor of an old Trump dispute resolution mechanism. Each side picks a wrestler and they have a match at Wrestlemania to settle it.

      1. Juice

        But that’s…rigged.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Some balls are held for charity…

    Hold my balls, and watch this!

  26. Zero Sum Game

    Where do you libertarians fall when an executive order runs afoul of a bad liberty-robbing court decision?

    Is it a trick to get the proggies to sue in various courts, produce different verdicts and then dump it in the lap of a favorable SCOTUS to settle it? If so: outstanding.

    1. Francisco d’Anconia

      It’s an EO. An EO far exceeding the powers granted the Executive.

      I think the question was posed to point out the lack of principle on both TEAMS.

      1. Gilmore

        This is the second time in as many weeks i’ve seen someone suggest that “politics” had something to do with principle

        (the earlier instance being, “people grumbling that Rand Paul didn’t throw a symbolic vote against Jeff Sessions”)

      2. Zero Sum Game

        Yep, I’m aware. I’m just suggesting that perhaps there’s an ulterior motive here for this.

        Overreach on purpose so it ends up in court, putting it on a fast-track to a SCOTUS decision. Normally cases take years to work out if they’re brought by citizens. If they’re triggered by circuit courts against an executive order, it cuts out a lot of the time.

        The default assumption people have is that they have an idiot for an adversary. That can work very well to one’s advantage to be seen that way because hasty reactions to an underestimated foe can lead to an equally hasty defeat.

  27. Gilmore

    mah bullet points, they gown

    1. leonadasiv

      Maybe you can get automatic bullet points added as a feature of Monocle

  28. wdalasio

    Rahm Emanuel’s “people place” idea for open spaces is bereft of…people.

    Gee, vacant lots don’t with no development don’t draw crowds. Whoda thunk?

  29. Glitterstorm

    God you guys are fast.

    Personally I don’t know if I’m for that EO that Trump’s going to use or not. I mean he’s there to uphold the Constitution and that’ll protect a part of it. *shrugs*

    1. Pat

      Fuck the unitary executive, IMO. It’s a never-ending cycle of “I had to do it because they did it first”. You’ve got a lock on congress. Do things legislatively the way they are meant to be done. It’s not only the right thing to do, but it locks in your policy for longer than the term of your presidency instead of creating a brand new regulatory clusterfuck with every new incoming administration.

      1. westernsloper

        Fuck the unitary executive, IMO. Agreed.

        But the right to keep and bear…….not infringed, is in the Constitution. What law would Congress pass that strengthens that and stops the courts from over reach? The Executive throwing power around is not the answer. I just don’t know what the answer is other than removing judges who obviously do not care to uphold the constitution.

        1. Pat

          No matter how many layers of complexity you add, you can’t avoid the watchmen problem.

          Congress could pass something clarifying with more specificity what types of arms are beyond the reach of “reasonable regulation”. Or we could craft a new amendment that removes any and all ambiguity that’s been read into the original language. But ultimately, if you’ve reached a point where the written words of the constitution don’t matter then the system has pretty well broken down and it’s time for a reboot.

          1. Viking1865

            Yep. We don’t need a new EO, what we need is a tree refreshed.

  30. Trials and Trippelations

    Potential Libertarian Moment in Iowa

    Bill would remove licensing requirements for several occupations.
    http://wqad.com/2017/02/24/iowa-bill-would-remove-licensing-requirement-for-barbers-funeral-directors-therapists/

    1. Glitterstorm

      Welcome to New Somalia 🙂

      1. Glitterstorm

        Why would a barber need a license? Does anyone have a reason as to why that’s necessary?

        1. Tundra

          Because then Floyd won’t have to up his game to compete.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            Huh? What are you talking about Tundra? How does Floyd of Rosedale have to up his game? He’s a fucking institution.

        2. Zero Sum Game

          They didn’t even need one when they used straight razors to shave men.

          Mob movies notwithstanding, I don’t think the fabric of society fell apart back then. And, of course, cronies love licensing to keep their competition out.

          1. Juvenile Bluster

            Some places still do that, for the record. Place I go to get my hair cut does it. Fun to have a complete stranger (well, I’ve been going there for 5 years, but still) hold a straight razor at your neck though.

          2. jesse.in.mb

            Well now I’m just thinking about a Stag Homme scene with Logan McCree and Goran “The Barber’s Blade” I’ll be polite enough not to link to it.

        3. commodious spittoon

          All I can think of is the Monty Python barber who wanted to be a lumberjack.

        4. Pat

          I’m not sure when the practice ended, but barbers used to perform dentistry and minor surgery. It might have started during that era. As to why it’s necessary now, you know why – same as every other profession.

          1. Trials and Trippelations

            Can’t say when it ended, but it started in the middle ages. Barbers did minor surgery, and doctors did the big stuff. Depending on the situation and the doctor the barber was the preferable practioner as he was not hamstrung by the classics understanding of medicine nor the Church’s dogma.

        5. jesse.in.mb

          I’d guess the reasoning is that a licensed barber will be properly trained on sanitizing equipment to prevent the spread of topical infections or head lice, although I think licensing requirements include barbering school and whatnot as well.

          1. Glitterstorm

            Barber school I understand. I guess that makes sense as to why they would need it but I believe it’s fairly common knowledge you should clean your shit up, no?

          2. Pat

            SLD of course, you don’t need licensing for that anyway – there are private credentialing agencies.

          3. commodious spittoon

            You’d think so. I pulled that link off google ‘cuz recency, but I’ve been hearing about the problem for several years.

          4. Trials and Trippelations

            I’m a nurse. I’ve seen doctors peel back dressings to look at wounds with gloves. Fucking disgusting.

        6. Trials and Trippelations

          I forgot to h/t Jason Stapleton, which is a great libertarian current events podcast by the way.
          The whiny barber he quoted from the article feared a world in which hair was cut in unsanitary and unsafe conditions that only someone that went through a licensing program would consider.

          Funny i haven’t died in the 7 years I have only had my wife cut my hair.

        7. leonadasiv

          The big one my wife cites (she’s a cosmetologist) is that they have to work with some semi dangerous chemicals that could harm a client if they used it the wrong way.

          1. Really? A cosmetologist? That’s unbelievable. That’s impressive. Must be tough handling the weightlessness.

          2. leonadasiv

            I admit I suck at spelling, by I got this one right

          3. Actually, it’s the study of Kosmet.

          4. leonadasiv

            Well now I feel stupid for not knowing that reference

    1. Glitterstorm

      *unzips dick* Unionize this, bitch.

      1. Grumbletarian

        You have a zipper on your dick?

        1. Juice

          don’t you?

    2. Pat

      Where do they put the union label?

      1. __Warren__

        Maybe tattooed right on the forearm?

    3. commodious spittoon

      A Wisconsin stripper megamart. I can only imagine.

    4. DOOMco

      I’ll have to ask my friend who waitressed at a strip club, but from what I remember the strippers made a lot more than she did.

    5. AlmightyJB

      Sorry Lena, you’re so ugly we had to pay our customers to watch you take your clothes off.

      1. commodious spittoon

        You make them pay to put the clothes back on.

    6. Bobarian LMD

      “Man, that is the oldest and ugliest stripper I’ve ever seen! Why is she getting center stage?!?”

      “She’s got seniority.”

    7. westernsloper

      the club requires the dancers to share tips with management before they get paid,

      Asshole employer alert.

      1. __Warren__

        SLD though, if they what the deal is going in then it’s fine.

        1. westernsloper

          Ta, but it is still a dick policy.

          1. westernsloper

            *Ya

      2. DOOMco

        splitting tips with other strippers would be better. The fuck does management have to do with it??

        1. Pat

          They provide protection and a venue. Pimpin’ ain’t easy.

          1. DOOMco

            Isn’t that what the cover and $10 drinks are for?

          2. Pat

            That’s for the coke and the Lexus. Geez man, didn’t you ever watch The Sopranos?

      3. Sonoran Desert Rat

        They pay a “stage fee” to the management to work at the clubs here.

    8. bacon-magic

      Strikes are when they walk outside. Discounts will be available at that time. #makeithail

    9. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Already a thing. This place used to run an open shop.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusty_Lady

  31. Gilmore

    Update on Drunken-Yokel Who Gunned Down Indian Workers for Garmin(GPS co)

    He Thought They Were “Iranians”

    1. AlmightyJB

      Honest mistake.

    1. Lafe Long

      lol. FAIL. even with Monocle.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        I think I fixed it.

    2. AlmightyJB

      My penis is everything and I thought women didn’t have agency? Just like a woman. Can’t make up their mind.

    3. BuSab Agent

      The gun is good. The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men.

  32. Juice

    Where do you libertarians fall when an executive order runs afoul of a bad liberty-robbing court decision?

    I’m a fair-weather federalist. I’ll take the side of whichever branch or level of government is somehow defending freedom versus whichever branch or level is violating it.

  33. The Fusionist

    Here’s an interesting thing about the Knox shooting. To be sure, it’s in ThinkProgress

    “…[prosecutor] Choi…bypassed a grand jury and directly brought charges against Yanez.”

    I suppose that means the crime Yanez is charged with isn’t an “infamous crime,” because nobody can be held to answer for such a crime unless a grand jury has first indicted or presented them. It’s right there in the Fifth Amendment.

    Oh, wait, my mistake, the Supreme Court says that the states don’t have to respect the right to a grand jury. The crime can be as infamous as you want, and nothing in the *federal* constitution requires the states to use a grand jury.

    Of course, we know that *most* of the rights in the Bill of Rights apply to the states, it’s just that this is one of a handful exceptions. Just as the right to bear arms used to be an exception until 2010, when the Supreme Court decided the right to keep and bear arms *is* binding on the states after all.

    The Supreme Court, you see, is a diner at the Bill of Rights buffet, he orders this and that, and declines that. And this selective approach is of course perfectly logical, because the Supreme Court said it is.

    And if you’re against the Supreme Court you’re against the Law of the Land.

    1. The Fusionist

      A trip down memory lane to see which of the rights in the Bill of Rights apply to the states.

      Freedom of the press? In 1922 the court said no, in 1925 it said maybe, by the 1930s it was yes.

      The freedom from double jeopardy. No, said the court in 1937. Yes, they said in 1969.

      What about the right against self-incrimination? “No way, are you kidding me?” The court said in 1908. “Did I say no? I meant yes,” the court said in 1964.

      Same with the right to keep and bear arms. At first it was “no it doesn’t apply to the states, weirdo!” Then in 2010 it was “OK, I suppose so,” by a 5-4 vote.

      Isn’t it fun that the rights in the Bill of Rights are so durable and indisputable?

      1. The Fusionist

        Freedom of speech and press, not just free press.

  34. __Warren__

    Could this be Robby’s secret?

    http://9gag.com/gag/appQVm8

    1. DOOMco

      oh my.

    2. AlmightyJB

      What the hell is wrong with you?

      1. __Warren__

        How long ya got?

  35. Warrior logo

    That decal represents that we will take any means necessary to keep our community safe

    Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article134722264.html#storylink=cpy

    ‘and by community I mean cops.’

    1. Vida Hobo

      At least their honest, I respect that. They’re advertising to everyone that they’re there to punish, not that silly antiquated notion of serving or protecting.

      1. Vida Hobo

        Egad. They’re not ‘their.’

  36. Zero Sum Game

    Always sad to see people who think like this.

    One side denouncing a vicious attack because it’s an attack. The other side denouncing those people who find the news abhorrent as “nazis” and the story does not fit the narrative.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Don’t overestimate Alternet.

      2. Zero Sum Game

        Also weird as fuck.

        There’s this tacit assumption in that article that communism isn’t it’s own form of mass-murdering evil. Hitler killed a lot of people, that is indisputable. Communism killed many more. For some reason, the face of evil isn’t Stalin, Mao, Che, Castro, etc.

        And if the Trump administration declared Antifa to be a terrorist organization because it’s mobilizing violent communists, they’ll be quick to call it a fascist move because of this exact event. You just can’t win with idiot proggies.

        That guy describes himself as a socialist, so big surprise he thinks that way.

        1. Zero Sum Game

          …isn’t its own…

          *sigh*

          I really don’t make that mistake often. WTB edit button. 🙁

        2. Viking1865

          The Left agrees with the goal of Communism. They don’t agree with the goal of Nazism. They might not like the means the Soviets used, but they approved of the goal. With the Nazis, they abhor the goal.

          1. Drake

            Oh they agree with all the goals of the fascists and most of the Nazi’s goals. They just would prefer not to dwell on those kinds of unpleasant truths. All those “isms” are just offshoots of socialism.

          2. Glitterstorm

            Even jism?

        3. Akira

          [blockquote]”Communism killed many more. For some reason, the face of evil isn’t Stalin, Mao, Che, Castro, etc.”[/blockquote]

          The view of Hitler as the greater of two evils seems to stem from the idea that race-based killing makes it many times worse. I don’t know why people think this. Would they give Hitler a pass if, instead of ~12 million based on race, homosexuality, and disability, he had killed 24 million completely random people? I don’t think so, Tim.

          And it’s not even true that the USSR was some wonderful egalitarian paradise. The commies forced the Crimean Tatars off their lands. They also made life pretty shitty for Jews. And the gender equality canard? Well, I guess it’s technically true that men and women had the same amount of freedom in the USSR, which is damn near zero.

    1. __Warren__

      Hopefully that’s a life sentence.

      1. another Kevin

        Good on the judge. Yee did all he could to take away citizens’ guns while he was in office. I hope it’s a life sentence as well.

    2. Note that the highest-ranking politician of the bunch got the lightest sentence.

      1. Viking1865

        Well yeah, if you give him a real sentence, he might start naming names.

  37. Viking1865

    The Left is about to discover a strange new respect for George W. Bush.

    “I am for an immigration policy that’s welcoming and upholds the law,” Bush said.

    I’m for an immigration policy that does that, and is also based on the national interest of the US and not on fee fees.

    He also echoed the reported comments of new National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, refusing to term terrorism as inherently Islamic.

    “People who murder the innocent are not religious people,” Bush said. “They want to advance an ideology. And we have faced those kind of ideologues in the past.”

    I never ever get tired of this fucking retarded meme that people who literally kill in the name of God are not really religious.

    “One of the things I spent a lot of time doing was trying to convince a person like Vladimir Putin, for example, to accept the notion of an independent press,” said Bush

    He probably nodded several times, then fucked your daughters after the state dinner was over.

    said Bush, who cautioned that “it’s kind of hard to tell others to have an independent free press and we’re not willing to have one ourself.”

    The press is so terrified, so repressed, so completely under siege. Totes.

    1. Pat

      ourself

      Dammit I miss George.

    2. Drake

      And the Right is about to remember why he sucked. His lasting achievement being… wars that don’t ever end?

      1. Viking1865

        I remember when he was critical of the Clintonian Nation Building Tour.

    3. Juice

      I’ve already seen it on reddit. All these, what I assume are 17 year olds, claiming that Bush was a nice guy, he was just in over his head, and Cheney was the real evil. I think they just don’t get it because they were little kids 10 years ago. I don’t know. I mean Bush was one of the worst presidents ever. He ran the country into the ground and we’re still trying to recover from it. “Oh but he’s likeable.” What? When the fuck was he ever fucking likeable? He always came across as a smarmy douchebag to me.

      1. Viking1865

        This is a standard prog tactic. The retired Republican, who they fucking hated when he was in power, is a wise elder statesmen, a throwback to a more reasonable era of American conservatism. It’s one of the ways they appear reasonable.

        My mother, for example, considers herself to be a bipartisan moderate because she voted for Ford over Carter. This is the only Republican she has ever voted for at any level, but she thinks shes a moderate.

    4. Akira

      “I never ever get tired of this fucking retarded meme that people who literally kill in the name of God are not really religious.”

      But you see, when Christians kill in the name of their god, it proves that Christianity is inherently murderous and that its followers are all barbarians. But when Muslims kill in the name of their god, it’s “not the true face of Islam”, and it’s totally unfair to draw any conclusions about the religion based on the actions of a few extremists.

  38. Glitterstorm

    Also why is Buzzfeed fetishizing Trudeau so much? It’s getting creepy.

    1. Viking1865

      Is he gonna be their McDreamy for the Trump years? I remember liberals spending a lot of time pretending that Martin Sheen was the actual President.

    2. John Titor

      He’s Canadian Obama, but dumber and slightly better looking. That’s why.

      1. Akira

        I had to listen to my mom and stepsister fawning over how “cute” he is. It made me want to fucking vomit.

        I’m TRYING to believe that women are just as rational as men in political matters. I’m TRYING to believe that women’s suffrage was not a huge mistake. But goddamnit, it’s hard sometimes.

    3. Pat

      American liberals used to fetishize European social democracy, but now they’ve got two problems: Europe is in the shitter and Millennials couldn’t differentiate Europe from Africa on a globe. Hey, you know who’s running a relatively successful social democracy that can play foil to all our American right wing bugaboos and is still accessible to a generation with no knowledge of history or geography? Canada!

      It’s basically like the kiddos who buy Vampire Weekend albums on vinyl at Urban Outfitters and feel smug about their hipster cred.

      1. Hyperion

        It wasn’t that long ago they were fetishizing Chavez and Venezuela. I wonder what happened? Oh yeah, they got to that part where you run out of other people’s money.

        1. Akira

          But that doesn’t count because it wasn’t Real Socialism™!

      2. thom

        >Millennials couldn’t differentiate Europe from Africa on a globe.

        And those who’ve been running the schools for the last fifty years will actually claim with a straight face that it is not them, but Republicans or Christians or something, who is responsible for this.

    1. Glitterstorm

      If we all become police officers we can apply the law however we want. Didya ever think of that?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        That’d work out about as well for me as it did for Christopher Dorner.

        1. Glitterstorm

          Fly Dorner, fly.

    2. Hyperion

      If Trump has any sense at all, he’ll get control of the garden gnome before it runs wild. Any attempt to screw around with legal weed will mean Trump is a one termer. I mean, you would think that someone in his inner circle would being telling him this, but who knows, maybe they’re all that stupid.

    3. Agent Cooper

      This was Trump’s worst pick. I wish the Dems would’ve put half as much oppo into him as DeVos.

      Then again, he was one of the anointed (a sitting Senator) and union money is hard to say no to.

  39. Juvenile Bluster

    According to this article from Yahoo! News, ENB and Reason are part of the “far right”. I’d put a comment here but my brain just exploded.

    THE VIEW FROM THE FAR RIGHT

    For their part, some right-wing groups have questioned whether research and media organizations are overhyping confrontations for a liberal agenda.

    Breitbart recently tut-tutted a CNN story on hate crimes that included somebody chalking the words “Trump,” “Build Wall,” and “[expletive] your safe space” in front of a library.

    Derogatory comments are regrettable, but are “a world apart from the wave of ‘hate crimes’ and violent attacks that many are conjuring up,” wrote Reason’s Elizabeth Nolan Brown after Trump’s election.

    By using broad criteria for what constitutes a hate group or hateful incident, groups like the SPLC pad statistics in order to imply, dishonestly, “that there’s a Nazi behind every tree in America,” says Michael Hill, president of the secessionist League of the South in Killen, Ala., which the SPLC lists as a hate group.

    1. Hyperion

      Naw, it can’t be. Reason’s outreach to the left program they’ve been running for years now is a surefire way for them to avoid getting lumped in with the crazies.

      ‘Hey you guys, look, we go to the cocktail parties! We run a Trump hit piece every 5 minutes! Look, we’re not… those guys, those yokels, they all went to that other site! We’re pure now, we’re pure! No… come back, you have to love us, look at us, love us!’

      1. Pat

        Last one on the cattle car is a rotten egg!

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Reason deserves it and no amount of ass kissing is going to get the left to do anything but hate their guts. They couldn’t have a better job of destroying their brand over the last year if they had tried and they’ve been so bad it almost brings out my inner conspiracy theorist. I hope they come back around one but, until then, to hell with them.

    2. Zero Sum Game

      Hilariously, I saw one of her articles screenshot and put into a YouTube video in a collection of leftist media.

      People still don’t get what we are, but they hate us nonetheless.

      1. DOOMco

        libertarians: everyone hates us.

    3. John Titor

      HA, and this after ENB just called Lauren Southern a part of the alt-right. Brilliant.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        She’s a libertarian with paleoconservative leanings. What Reason doesn’t realize though is that, for the people that matter, i.e. the left, they’re also alt right. Maybe the Antifa goons will beat their asses last though.

        1. Glitterstorm

          I saw some graffiti in Atlanta and I wish I had take a picture. But it was the Antifa logo and it said “Liberals get the bullet too”.

        2. DOOMco

          From where they are we all look the same. I know I tried to tell robby that.

          1. Hyperion

            They’re leftists. There can be no friendship or even a truce between libertarians and leftists. They’re the enemy of liberty. Now, if Rand or whoever wants to reach across the aisle and try to get Democrats to help rein in the garden gnome, or whatever, that’s different. Sometimes you can use the enemy to get something you want, just don’t mistake them for friends.

      2. butt-head

        Well, yeah. Reason is the “far right,” while Southern et al. (insert anyone you like, regardless of whether they’re all that similar!) are “alt-right.”

    4. DOOMco

      Best day ever.

    5. Pomp

      ::sad trombone::

  40. butt-head

    I’m watching OJ Simpson: Made in America, and they seem to be trying to frame him as self-loathing for being black. Maybe that’s true, but I’m not sure what secure evidence they have for that sort of psych analysis. I also find it a bit obscene that I’m supposed to resent him for focusing on the well-being of his wife in kids and not his ‘community.’

    But it does make me wonder if (or more accurately, to what extent) activists similarly resent e.g. Obama for allegedly betraying his so-called community, for being acceptable to and supposedly ensconcing himself in ‘white America’ (cocktail parties, golfing, etc.). I get that people will always be resentful of the more successful, especially when you can claim them as part of your tribes and communities and therefore arrogate an ostensibly authoritative voice over and re: their actions, but to see these beliefs accepted and reported without skepticism in a highly acclaimed documentary is … disappointing. Shame on collectivists (see what I did there?) for holding people back.

    1. Viking1865

      Obama for allegedly betraying his so-called community,

      Obama is not an American black man in the cultural and social sense. He was overseas in his formative years, and attended private schools. Barack Obama has never sat through a year in a shitty public school, Barack Obama has never had the cops brace him up because they didn’t like the way his pants were hanging.

      I am blacker than Barack Obama.

      1. butt-head

        That’s what I mean. Is he actually actively not-‘claimed’ in more grassroots black communities/ activist organizations? Because the mainstream media don’t portray him that way—but maybe the media are just arms of ‘white America’ according to the black-activist ideologies. I’m just curious what their narratives look like. We don’t hear them much.

  41. Zero Sum Game

    This media grooming of Chelsea Clinton is as obvious as it is odious. Enough of that fucking family already.

    Did anyone not see that coming? The only real question is when she’s going to run for the Senate and who is giving up a seat to preserve the dynasty’s ambitions.

    I’ve joked about it before, but the final death rattle will escape Hillary’s lips in the 2024 Presidential race between Chelsea Clinton and Sarah Palin and Palin wins it. The room will be covered in exploded bits of heart from the massive heart attack that would cause.

    1. Zero Sum Game

      First female President, Sarah Palin. Can you just imagine the tears that night? If we thought the Trumpocalypse was hilarious, that one would be so much more.

      1. DOOMco

        I thought Carly had a shot last time, at least at first.

        1. butt-head

          Carly has resting-bitch-face and is too icy. I personally really love that demeanor, but most of the country would never favor it, particularly not from a woman. Just how it is.

          1. Viking1865

            Carly is an incompetent cold bitch. People would vote for a competent cold bitch, Clinton is just incompetent, and despite endless media fluffing, everyone knows it.

            Thatcher was the Iron Lady, not England’s Mum.

          2. butt-head

            Could someone like Thatcher have won a direct election……. in the US? I kinda doubt it.

          3. Viking1865

            Depends on who she ran against, and what year. Could she have beat LBJ in ’64? No. Would she have lost to Dukakis? No.

          4. butt-head

            I suppose. It would be nice to have a Thatcher-type (in demeanor and rhetorical style, not just ideology) run, and to win.

      2. butt-head

        Please God no

        1. Zero Sum Game

          Every proggy simultaneously explodes and DC evaporates in a mushroom cloud. 😉

          1. butt-head

            As entertaining as that would be, I think the anguish from frequently having to hear Palin talk would outweigh the benefits. (Not to mention the fact that she doesn’t seem to be principled, so any seemingly appealing ‘Tea Party’-type positions would quickly dissolve upon her winning.)

          2. Viking1865

            I know it was a long time ago, and people forget, but Palin was vetoing anti gay rights bills in a red state while Hillary and Barry were still talking about the sanctity of marriage. Oh, and I also remember her being called an idiot for daring to suggest that increasing the supply of a commodity was the best way to lower the price. She was right about that too.

            Palin was by far the best person on either major party ticket in 08.

          3. butt-head

            “Palin was by far the best person on either major party ticket in 08.”

            Low, lowwww bar, but sure.

            I guess I’m pretty ignorant about Palin, then. She never seemed to be very coherent or trenchant to me, so I tuned her out.

          4. Viking1865

            Yeah the media absolutely destroyed her, because after she was nominated for VP McCain went up in the polls for only time he would lead post April. They opened up the whole playbook on her, and McCain listened to all his buddies in the media and reined her in.

            One of the many examples of idiot Republicans thinking the media is their friend, or neutral.

      3. hayeksplosives

        I wish it could be Condi, but she sullied herself with GWB so I think her political career is done, even though we could probably use a good Russia expert at this point.

        Anybody hear read Garry Kasperov’s book about Putin, “Winter is Coming”?

      4. juris imprudent

        How about Mia Love for first female President?

        1. butt-head

          She might be too smart to run.

    2. Pomp

      The principal of the primary school I went to wants to be prez???

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’d be willing to bet that they’re going to try to force her mother on us again if she hasn’t kicked the bucket by the next election cycle. Trump destroyed the Bushes as a political family and I was hoping that would be the case for the Clintons but the Dem establishment is just too stubborn (and stupid) to get the message.

  42. Breet Pharara

    Does anyone think Politifact has any credibility left? No, well then prepare to have your minds not blown.

    Donald Trump has decreased national debt is mostly false.

    In the article explaining why, “The numbers check out. And in fact, the total public debt has dropped another $22 billion since the Gateway Pundit article published, according to data from the U.S. Department of Treasury.”

    So the statement is entirely true but we will call it false. Fucking brilliant.

    PS this is my first attempt at a link in text so if it fails its someone your fault not mine.

    1. butt-head

      I guess since ‘credibility’ is mostly argumentum ad populum, it might have some (left?), somewhere, according to some cohorts.

      Here’s a useful graphic.

      1. DOOMco

        There was one comparison like those that had I think Rand and Bernie saying almost the exact same thing. one was a liar.

      2. Breet Pharara

        I know, I’m late to the party on that one. I just wanted an excuse to try link in text on a mostly dead thread. That and they literally admit in the article that it is a true statement and I thought that was particularly funny.

        1. DOOMco

          very funny.
          also sad.

    2. Glitterstorm

      “You shouldn’t take that much stock in it guys, it’s not totally serious”

  43. Pope Jimbo

    Also, I hope those poor hunters don’t run into Superhero Squirrel!