Once again a premature curmudgeon yells at clouds. You have been warned.
When I bought my house the toilet that came with it was too small, to the point of being uncomfortable, and prone to clogging. So when I had a contractor fixing some exterior woodwork (I knew it would need to be done at the time of purchase, so this was not some shock) I inquired about people to replace the toilet. (It was a general contractor, so they had plumbers either on staff or in their contact list). The price quoted was cheap provided I got the actual replacement unit. Fair enough, it would let me pick what I wanted in a replacement.
Except for a proper water volume.
It is illegal to sell a new toilet that uses more than 1.6 gallons per flush. The canned answer I get to the question “Why?” is always “to conserve water”. This annoys me on three counts.
Count one – If a toilet clogs I end up cycling it three to four times in the process of clearing. Meaning 4.8 to 5.6 gallons go down the drain. This ends up using more water anyway while wasting my time unclogging the system.
Count two – I live in New York. New York is a literal swamp. Admittedly, one that was drained before the founding of the EPA. It gets more precipitation per annum than Louisiana (one of the random facts I learned in our less than stellar public schools). My house in particular is near the confluence of two rivers. Millions of gallons of water flow past it towards the sea each minute undisturbed. (The Mohawk spits an average of 5,900 cubic feet of water into the Hudson per second. Or 2,651,694.5 gallons per minute. Then add in what’s already in the Hudson from up north…) We have water to spare.
Count three – I get billed by the gallon for my water usage and that amount is doubled to cover sewerage. I am paying for what I use. I should be the arbiter of how much gets to be allocated to what purpose. A rule that was written by econuts living in a desert with no idea how physics works just isn’t appropriate to my circumstance in a swamp.
The only upside of the tale is that innovators will find a way to work around horrible rules until they literally fly in the face of the laws of physics *cough*automobile emissions*cough*. So the new Kohler is actually fairly reliable. But just because there are people smarter than the regulators out there is no excuse for stupid rules to be on the books for stupid excuses.
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166 responses to “UnCivil Doesn’t Like Anything : Low-Flow Toilets”
Always a guest.
Dude, you didn’t even get a profile quote, not even a hat tip. The elite are already starting to establish the divide between them and the peasants. Soon, they won’t even talk to us in the comments and then …
And why does guest contributors get a monkey avatar? I think it’s obvious!
*unzips*
IT IS HARAMBE!
Go on…
‘do’. And then I await my peasant comrades to finish that.
Ok, no one wants to help…
Cocktail parties. God help us all.
Some of us hope to be invited to said parties. It’s a little early to be shitting up the waters.
What, you think they’ll allow in us heathens, with our heathen beer and heathen ways? You THINK you will be invited. But you’ll be crossed off the list to make room for Postrel.
Any cocktail party invite you get here is actually just a recruitment to Warty’s basement.
I think the word you’re looking for is ‘impressment’ or ‘shanghaiing’ because ‘recruitment’ implies that you have some say in the matter.
“Volunteered” Bobarian.
Bobarian just volunteered to be the first
victimlucky contestant.I’ll see you all there!
Bobarian: *looks around, only sees Warty dressed in PVC* ‘Guys, guys, hey where is everyone? HELP!’
Oh hey, someone noticed and edited the article.
Thanks someone!
That would be me, since SugarFree has demonstrated today that he cannot be trusted with an edit button.
Did you also change the front page blurb?
Of course. SP threatened me with more beatings if I didn’t do the excepts properly.
Look, you old fuck. I don’t have to take this sort of abuse from you, only your wife.
By UnCivil Servant
Can’t you people read?
I went to public skool
Well, yeah, but why not put his name, avatar, and bio (if any) in the “About the Author” box?
Come on, sloop, we know that wasn’t there before. You’re ruining the narrative.
You get billed by the gallon?
by the hundred gallon, but still.
So what your toilet doesn’t work. You get to feelz good, no?
“I said, ‘Feel good, dammit!’”
/top man
Just eat stuff that gives you the ability to shit through a screen door.
Beer 24/7?
And the proper beer. I’ve found Miller Highlife to be the best for achieving the screen door effect.
Natural Light would like to have a word with you.
“From the Land of Sky Blue Waters….Hamm’s the beer refreshing…”
Oh shit! No pun intended. I forgot about Hamm’s. I used to drink the hell out of that before I learned better… got more money. That and Bush.
I always had success with Black Label and canned tamales.
Although I have not seen Black Label in years. Not that I have been looking.
Mountain Brew! It’s in NY too.
Ahh.. the Champagne of Beers.
First beer I ever tasted… when grampa passed me his bottle under the table when I was 5 or 6.
I can still remember the taste.
… but I don’t know as I’d actually buy it on purpose.
I drank Miller for a while, and before that, Icehouse. Some dude on the internets pointed out that they both taste like motor oil. Sure enough, they really do. Haven’t been able to drink either since. Strangely, Miller Lite doesn’t have the motor oil taste.
You can usually modify them to work properly. Just adjust the water level in the tank or remove the baffles that prevent it from filling.
Same with low-flow faucets. Just remove the restrictor and you’ve got an actual faucet.
Thanks, again, California!
If I’m looking at the mechanism right in this paricular toilet, I think they have a 1.6 gallon piston inside a mugh higher capacity tank that uses the weight of the rest of the water to increase the pressure with which the legally limited amount gets pushed into the bowl and then during reset refills the piston from the tank and refills the tank from the mains.
I think they call that ‘dual flush’ or some nonsense. Just get a plain old flush valve that allows you to set the water level. Ask an old timer at the hardware store.
It’s working, I’d rather not rip out the hardware until I get problems again.
If you actually have a dual flush, they’re kinda nifty… and as you say, the innovators have managed to surpass the regulators by making the low flows work a lot better through the magic of hydraulics and velocity.
Any toilet that can eat a double-taper, 1-week, MRE shit in one bite is scientific miracle.
Never understood the concept of water “conservation”. It either evaporates or gets filtered into the ground like it has been doing for millions of years no matter what(I suppose with a few exceptions. Crap not being one of them) you put in it.
There’s a layer of water about 50-60 miles under the surface of earth (please don’t quote me on that one, I think the depth is close to that from what I remember), that contains more water than all the oceans on earth combined. Soon enough, we should be able to drill that deep? Maybe some engineers here can comment on the feasibility of that. Anyway, if it happens, prepare for a round of lefty pantshitting that will put the fracking pantshitting to shame.
You’re raping the deep waters!
Ok, correcting myself, just checked one of the stories about that again. It’s 400 miles.
From Wikipedia: The Kola Superdeep Borehole on the Kola peninsula of Russia reached 12,262 metres (40,230 ft) and is the deepest penetration of the Earth’s solid surface.
So that’s about 8 miles. Don’t think we’re that close to drilling down to the deep ocean, or whatever it is. Note: I am not an engineer.
We’re gonna keep it up until we reach the pit. The one with the locusts, and then we’re in big trouble.
We should just do what Brendan Frasier did: go to Iceland, find a hottie there and waterslide to the center of the earth. There’s plenty of water there.
Newbie – “What the hell was that? I dont see any clouds. Was that a sonic boom? Hell, that shook the ground.”
Vet – “No. Rock burst.”
A common conversation at deep underground mines. The pressure is so great in very deep mines that the rocks in the walls become semi-plastic, it is hotter than hell, and occasionally some of the rock in the walls will explode. No small number of miners have died from rock bursts.
Also, water is a major molecular constituent in the colder parts of the earth’s crust. At depths where the pressure and heat are high enough to melt the rocks they lose that water. Thus the hot springs the appear around ‘hot spots’ in the earth’s crust. At the border between the cold enough to contain water / too hot to contain water a large amount of water has accumulated because some material is being pushed down into it all the time and of course material moving up takes on that water as it rises and cools.
I imagine punching down into that super heated ocean would be something you would want to do until you actually did. Hell, I have seen oil wells at just 10K feet release pressure and blow two miles of drill rod (1 inch thick, 20 foot long) a quarter mile in the sky. You do NOT want to be around when that shit comes back down.
blow two miles of drill rod
These euphemisms.
You are apparently unfamiliar with the documentary where we went to the center of the earth. It featured that guy from The Mummy.
If you live east of the Mississippi (or really East of the Plains) water conservation is completely unnecessary. There is a ridiculous overabundance of water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL2YRDzpTL4
The Stradivarius of Toilets. My dad used to play it like a violin.
LMBO
Now that’s a MAN’S flush!
We had to replace two of our 1954 Crane toilets…tanks split within a year of one another and we couldn’t get replacements. We put Kohlers in and those flush valve designs work really well. I have never liked a low flow toilet that I liked until now. And I PUNISH these things and they just keep on trucking.
Along the same line as the article.
Gas cans piss me off to no end. Every year new regs are passed that make them more and more unusable. The new ones with the breather in the spout flow less than a gallon a minute. It takes around ten fucking minutes to pour a 5 gallon can into my UTV. Also, I learned the other day in a class on DOT regulations that the reason you can’t get more than a 5 gallon gas can is all because of the DOT. My mower, UTV, tractor, and other tractor all have more than 5 gallon fuel tanks. If I want to fill one of them up I have to purchase multiple shitty Gas cans to do so.
I’ve found these to be a godsend. Bonus: there’s a pretty girl in a bikini gassing up her jet-ski.
This is from the site:
The water can spout is the exact same thing as the gas can spout, just a different color. Perfect.
Oh, no, I keep that for pouring water, honest.
I have a device for creating distilled water, also. Unfortunately, all this ethanol comes out first.
http://coppermoonshinestills.com
The guy that builds these lives a few miles from where I grew up. They are for decoration only of course.
Like the German company that was selling incandescent light bulbs as ‘heaters,’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heatball
My very Liberal uncle asked me about compact fluorescent bulbs a few months back. He said, when they first came out they would last years but the one they are making now burn out all the time. He asked me why that was. (I am an electrician)
I responded that when they first came out they were in direct competition with incandescents so they had to be made better in order to sell. Ever since the state stepped in and banned their competition, they no longer have to be manufactured to such a high standard.
In a world of LEDs, who uses CFL?
They’re too heavy for some of the fixtures I haven’t gotten around to replacing yet.
I assume because it’s a scary black thing that goes up? Assault gas can?
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED BY LAW TO PURCHASE THE GAS CAN SPOUT:
Nanny Statism at its finest. You rubes are too fucking stupid to decide for yourselves what type of spout you want on your fuel containers.
*local news on scene of early morning police raid*
local reporter: ‘What’s happening here?’
local police chief: ‘Well, Barbara, this appears to be the home of the poster known as Lachowsky from that radical site, glibertarians. We’ve seized 4000 illegal gas can spouts, the black ones that are coveted by these radical militias. Let me assure you, these have have no useful legal purpose and should be kept out of the hands of private citizens and away from the children.’
local reporter: ‘Well, there you have it. Once again our heroes in blue have stopped the bad guys and kept our children safe.’
Thankfully, they didn’t remove the sheets from my beds and discoverer my mattress tags are all missing too.
Did they notice the eyeholes?
A law evadin’ “donkey dick” – nice.
Sweeeeet! I have a couple old steel cans and I couldn’t find replacement spouts. Thanks, Mike Schmidt!
Glad I could help! I found mine at TSC. I assume Fleet Farm or other stores like that would have them, too.
I snagged a couple of five gallon NATO jerry cans (in a fetching olive green which makes them technically illegal for gas, I believe). No breather spouts on those bad boys.
“Gas cans piss me off to no end.”
Same here. I cut the damned built in breathers out and poke a hole in the top of the can with my pocket knife. I use a twisted paper towel to plug up both so it doesnt slosh out in the car when I am driving.
My God, you’re practically a prepper!
Type 1 metal gas cans are worth their weight in gold.
I remember moving in a apartment about 10 years ago. The previous tenants were young hippies (the Greenpeace ones, not the fun type) and found a 1 liter bottle of water in the toilet tank… The fact that we were living on a island in the middle of the St-Lawrence River never seemed to get to those people.
I can’t remember where, but I recall having seen some articles about low flow toilets regulations bringing up some cities sewage maintenance costs; as the water pressure is now too weak to properly wash the system, sludge is accumulating, in part due to low flow toilets but also to the population of those same cities going down (probably because of the smell).
Heh, I guess that’s why we call those places shitty places.
We had a problem with one of the toilets in our house leaking. It turns out the previous owner, in an attempt to save water, had adjusted the flushing system to the lowest fill level possible… i.e. the water pressure at the bottom of the tank was insufficient to seal the flapper.
She wasn’t a green nutjob. Just an old woman on a fixed income trying to hold onto the home her husband and she had lived their lives in as the local taxes and water bill kept going up, up, up!
Low-flow toilets cause a stink in SF
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Low-flow-toilets-cause-a-stink-in-SF-2457645.php
I explained yesterday how to remove all of the chokes from your faucets, shower heads and toilets. If you look around at junk yards you can find old toilets that have a decent flush volume. If you dont know how to do plumbing, learn. Go to your local Ace Hardware and ask. They will probably even give you a class.
The number one advantage to knowing how to do everything is that you dont have to depend on someone else, ask permission, or explain yourself. If you want it done right…Also you can tailor things to suit yourself.
Learn how to plumb, wire, weld, build a frame or a cabinet, work on your car, paint, grow a garden, etc, etc, etc.
It’s a matter of principle, Suthen.
Well, yes. The principle is that one’s amount of liberty is positively correlated to one’s level of self-reliance.
Why do you think Eurosocalists salivate over the phrase “cradle to grave”?
It’s also a matter of principle that I should have the option of paying a specialist to do crap I don’t want to and get the results I pay for.
Having to do go back in and redo the specialist’s work because they were tied to braindead rules is asinine.
No disagreement on either account.
But it doesn’t alter the truth value of the first proposition.
I understand what you are saying UnCivil…but we dont live in that world so, what HM said.
And skin a buck and run a trotline?
yeah, that doesnt hurt. The more you can do for yourself the less you have to ask/pay for. I am semi one of those off the grid people. The less govt types know about me the less attention they pay to me.
Country folk will survive
Shortly after we moved into our current place, the plumbing would get backed up every time we used the washing machine. So, I opened up the drain pipe down in the basement and found a bunch of crud in there. (I think the previous owners dumped a whole box of baking soda down there…that’s what it looked like) Cleaned it out and added a cleanout to the run in case it happened again. No biggie. My wife goes to work and tells a few coworkers what I did. They all figured I was husband of the year for knowing how to do that. Times, they are a changin’
It’s weird, isn’t it? My wife’s friend had to change her panties when she heard I did all the millwork in the house. Apparently it’s uncommon for professional dudes to be able to fend for themselves. Kind of sad.
Learn how to plumb, wire, weld, build a frame or a cabinet, work on your car, paint, grow a garden, etc, etc, etc.
I can do all that, but I suck at welding. Any good tutorials you can recommend?
I am laughing my ass off. My brother is a structural engineer. He specializes in steel joists…huge spans. When he is tired of sitting in front of the computer he will go out in the yard and help with the welding. He is a welding genius. Last season I welded a ladder on his deer stand.
SuthenBro – “Hey Suthen, have you seen a chicken around here anywhere?”
Suthen – “Uh, no, why?”
SuthenBro – “I am gonna kill it when I see it. That damned thing shit all over the ladder on my deer stand.”
Suthen – “Oh fuck you.”
Ah, you’re an adherent to the Tundra School of Welding.
That’s awesome!
Seriously though, if you want to really learn how to weld you can take classes at technical schools or some community colleges. Ihavent done so. My welding sucks but is passable for minor things.
Yes, mine hold, bit they look like hell. A class might be kind of fun!
A good grinder makes a great welder.
If not a class (you could even try a voc center for the HS kids), just a boatload of practice. Try to make a sway bar or strut bar a few times. I still need to get better. I have to replace a section of metal on the back of Bridger. There was no inner fender in the 40, so they all develop rust above the bumper, below the swing out doors.
I still have fond memories of a pre-war toilet in our house outside Chicago. The thing would dispose of a hippo in one go. How it had better pressure than the faucets in the house, I never did figure out. Probably should have brought it with us when we moved.
Yep.
If you’re a fan of “pink-assed hot showers”, or being able to make instant coffee from the tap, it’s trivial to cut an anti-scald valve out of your DHW setup.
We filled a california king sized waterbed and it was too hot to sleep in for a while.
I hate our stupid low-flow toilets. I live rural NJ and have a well. I’m just pumping water from front yard to my backyard as i have to flush the damn thing 5 times.
Uncivil,
This article leads me to the conclusion that you are full of shit. You probably wrote this on your porcelain throne. Thanks for the article. *flushes*
I don’t take electronics into the bathroom. It’s just not sanitary.
Notepad and pen guy, huh? Bravo, sir. Keep doing you.
Not sure if you just told me to go fuck myself.
No! I meant it as “be the individual that we all know and love and like to make fun of in a brotherly fashion”. I myself agree that toilets that don’t flush well are evil.
Yet you couldn’t tell that I was intentionally misinterpreting your comment for an attempt at comedic effect?
C’mon now, Bacon just told you to fuck yourself in the nicest way possible. Don’t ruin it.
/honeymoon phase
Get off my lawn.
I’m still the noob here and I expect to be treated as such.
No, Bacon, we treat everyone poorly
Everyone’s a long timer and noob at the same time.
/Schrodinger’s chatroom
As Pater Dean told one of the Nieces when she was yammering on about water conservation:
“The water doesn’t leave the planet when it overflows the horse tank. I wouldn’t worry about it if I were you.”
OT
I saw a smug Salon article yesterday that was dogging libertarians. I skimmed it and when I got to the comments I noticed an old friend… Tony. He/she/them/it mentioned that the libertarians they “hang around” are climate change deniers.
Why am I sharing this? I don’t know. It just struck me as funny.
So? I’m not one of the Warmist Faithful. I saw the evidence and evidence of shenanigans with evidence and it told me that blaming carbon dioxide was probably bunk.
I think the whole thing is a complete fraud but even if you take them at their word it will empoor the earth back the stone age just to lower the temperature like 1/10 of 1 degree.
Also, unless you take the most catastrophic, inaccurate and unscientific doomsday scenarios seriously, what the models actually predict? Low priority in the grand scheme of things. You’d get better outcomes dumping the money into eliminating third world diseases and AIDS research.
don’t you know the polar ice caps were gone back in 2003 and NYC was below sea level in 2011?
As I recall the claim was that over a billion people would die from the effects of global warming by the year 2012. I tracked that guy down in Jan. 2012 and asked him about it. He gave the response that every con always gives when called on their bullshit.
“I dont know what you are talking about”, “What”, “You aren’t a very nice person”, etc
Complete deflection.
They could not concoct a more obvious con.
No, it has to be real. 97% of scientists agree and if anyone challenges you on it, just try to look smart and smug and say ‘Well, I guess I have to agree with the scientists’. See, there’s no arguing with that.
Warmist: 1
Denier: 0
Hey Butthole, when did I say that?
Hey assface, who was talking to you?!
/honeymoon phase
You, with you stoopid soviet snake av.
My snake is clearly superior to your generic thingywhat. Also, that reply was to Rhywun. Learn to thread, you Nazi!
Learn to thread, dickless!
That doesn’t work well when they’re arguing with me.
I don’t even try to argue with them, I just say stuff like ‘I for one, love this global warming, I want more of it’.
Didn’t you tell me you have an advanced science degree OMWC? Do I remember that correctly?
Yeah, PhD and 40 year career in science, which is why I laugh at them when they make that argument.
And only 85% of them were pressured to do so by their peers and/or out of need for $.
85% of the 97% or 85% of all?
I couldn’t decide so I left it open to interpretation.
I was just amused that all Tony seemed to pick up from all his interactions on the other site was that libertarians usually aren’t climate alarmists.
When the position of the climate alarmists usually boils down to “MOAR GOVERNEMNET” do you really expect people who by definition are opposed to government action would be their natural allies? It’s hard to pick up converts when your faith requires action diametrically opposed to the core principle of a given group.
No. I don’t expect them to be natural allies. I just don’t see doubting global warming at the top of the list when you are describing libertarians. I’m certainly not promoting climate change nonsense. I’m only pointing out, that in my opinion, it’s funny that the only thing Tony picked up after all this time is that libertarians seem to be climate change deniers.
It’s not Tony ‘picking up’ anything. It’s Tony trying to insult libertarians like he always does. More than half of Tony’s posts can be summed up as ‘libertarians R stoopid, me smart’. Global warming is a concept Tony views as self-evident truth than any intelligent person accepts. Ergo, he bitches and moans about libertarian cynicism to the idea because it’s proof of our inherent intellectual inferiority.
I have found the best place to buy a toilet is the used/second hand building materials places. One used to be able to find pre-low flow thrones at those. Decent rant uncivil. What burns me about water use is when I used to leave my place for months at a time and turn my water off. I would return to a $30 or $50 or more water bill depending on the duration of my away time. I finally asked the lady at the city water bill paying desk why I had a bill when my water was turned off. She said, “the bill is to maintain the water treatment system”. I said, “I didn’t use any treated water, what are you charging me for?” Blank stare. You must pay the king if you are hooked up to the kings water whether you use it or not.
Did Oscars prove that we are living in a simulation?
Are we living in a simulation
Sorry, but you guys are confused. You are definitely living in an alternate universe that isn’t real. But as far as simulation theory goes, you may be wanting to look elsewhere, like wave particle duality and entanglement. Dummies.
Priceless. Fucking gold right there.
” The rhythm of the yes-they-won-oh-my-God-no-they-didn’t event, with “La La Land” replaced by “Moonlight” as Best Picture, was weirdly like that of .. . Election Night. though Hillary Clinton never got all the way to the stage, so to speak, the result did seem safely in hand at 7 p.m., according to the polling—and the expected and safe people were ready to deliver their touching but obviously polished pieces. Then the sudden confusion and visible near-panic of people running around in the background of the stage, with the same slightly horrified spirit that one felt on Election Night as shocking results began emerging from the exurban counties in Florida. Then, yes—can this be happening?—the revised and unexpected result.”
We told ourselves over and over that our dreams were coming true so reality cant take a giant shit on them! No!
They are like emotionally stunted spoiled children.
Real Einsteins, they are.
1.6 gal/flush meaning I need to stand around waiting for the tank to refill so I can flush a second time every time I take a shit. I feel your pain, brother.
Let’s talk showerheads and lightbulbs…
While I don’t miss the muddy brown light put out by incandescent heat lamps, I don’t oppose your ability to buy them for yourselves.
I don’t disagree, but the regulation propping up CFLs was a fucking crime. With the hazardous materials and the absolute fraudulent claim that they lasted 6-9 times longer, someone should be in prison.
So far, I’m liking LEDs.
I am using a mix depending upon which light fixture because some still need to be replaced with something that can take the added weight of a proper brightness LED replacement
Me too. Good light, cool running, reliable (so far), and they don’t spray a lot of RF noise around to fuck up my stereo listening.
Me. too. I like the different color temps you can get with LEDs. The 3000K “halogen” is my fave, but some “warmer” lights in lamps and whatnot make for a very agreeable mix.
They are just as cheap for dimmable ones now too.
I also put them throughout my car, to help my alt and battery.
SuperBrightLEDs is where I got mine, but they have a bunch of cool things there. I’ll be getting some of the accent lighting ones for under my cabinets in the kitchen, run them through an adapter or maybe the AA battery packs.
The LED ribbons are a godsend for under-cabinet and, if your cabinets don’t go all the way to the ceiling, over-cabinet lighting. Under-cabinet makes for great task lights (3000K), and the over-cabinet (at a warmer color) makes for great mood lighting. *waggles eyebrows*
They run all the way to the ceiling, so I have to just do the under.
Our new apartment has a wet bar downstairs in our living room. I need a classy as fuck painting to go there, but it’s swoon central. get up off the couch while you netflix and chill, make a drink for the lady while the accent lights do their thing.
I need a classy as fuck painting to go there
I’m sure the Glibertariat can make some suggestions . . . .
We only have LEDs in the house now. I have some of the dimmable ones also. Expensive, but they work.
Oh, and dishwashers.
Got flooded out of our house in TX, so they gave us a base house till the renovations were complete. Oldest piece of shit house on the base, but the 20 yo dishwasher would scour the rust off a Chevy and every dish came out hot and completely dry.
“The water doesn’t leave the planet when it overflows the horse tank. I wouldn’t worry about it if I were you.”
Nice. I read something, not long ago, which apparently was written by somebody who believes that once the water goes down the drain, it is lost forever.
Also- I am reminded of the shower head I bought a long time ago. It dispensed a sort of atomized mist. I took it apart, and found the little disc with eensy teensy holes in it, to restrict the flow. I took it out to the garage and bored out all the holes by about a lot. After that, it was like a tropical rainstorm in my shower.
A few years ago, I bought a new showerhead where the manufacturer advertised that the flow restrictor could be removed for the purposes of “cleaning” it. I was sure to write them a nice letter of appreciation for providing the “cleaning” option.
And the best part was, I’ve only needed to “clean” it once.
And speaking of high power toilets, I stayed in an old hotel in Sonoma, California, with the antique “down the hall” bathroom still intact. The tank was mounted up on the wall, with a chain pull. That thing was like Niagara Falls.
Yep. I love those. If it weren’t for my wife’s objections I would build one for myself. No way she would tolerate the shit-rig I would cobble together. Oh well.
You shoulda seen the power behind the shitter of the AB&B we stayed at in NZ. I think the turds actually made it all the way to Michigan.
The natural order of things is to improve. The only man-made thing that can alter that is government.
Look for an old warehouse that sells old furniture and the like. They’ll most likely have old toilets. Kinds gross, but I’ll bet they clean up nicely.