Monday Afternoon Links

Sucks to your Monday. Have some downer links.

  • The WHO posts what may be the most mendacious study results ever, claiming 1.7 million children under the age of five die from “environmental risks such as indoor and outdoor pollution, second-hand smoke, unsafe water and poor sanitation”. I’ll leave the commentariat to guess which of these the article focuses on.
  • 7 places where the science still isn’t quite settled. It’s weird that fundamental physics like gravity and nuclear strong force are more open to discussion than other, less rigorously observed fields.
  • For all of you super-intelligent, maladjusted commenters, a rumination on why you might turn to crime. And no, the answer isn’t because literally anything you do is probably illegal anyways.
  • China releases $150B military budget. “China has the world’s second-largest defense budget, although it is still only about one-quarter of what the U.S. spends.” No, that’s one quarter of what gets appropriated during the budgeting process. It ignores all the “emergency” spending.
  • Today marks the 228th anniversary of the US operating under the Constitution. Maybe some day we can return to that.
If only the Illuminati actually ran things

Comments

416 responses to “Monday Afternoon Links”

  1. Left Hand of Radar

    First?

    1. Juice

      Not that I care, but what kind of BS is this?

      My comment was first.

      1. I still consider it first.

        If your comment is first and it’s a declaration or question with a single word in it–notably, “first”–I consider you the worst instead. *pointed dead-eyed stare*

        1. Juice

          I just mean when I posted, it was the only visible comment. Looking at the time stamps, maybe there’s some delay in what I see.

          1. Dr. Fronkensteen

            I saw it too. Just to back up your assertion.

          2. Sour Kraut

            The best first fights were on the old fuckedcompany.com site. Those battles were cutthroat. That site had quite the lively comment section for a while.

          3. Tundra

            Oh man, I loved that site. Back then I was working in the semiconductor biz, and read that site every damn day!

            And yes, the comments were hilarious.

          4. bacon-magic

            Some still play that rigged game.

      2. Left Hand of Radar

        The “?” was meant to mean, “I can’t believe I’m first!” Also, It’s my first post on Glibertarians. Nice to know I stepped in it right out of the gate.

        1. bacon-magic

          Just be glad you haven’t seen the cat meme yet. Welcome.

        2. Just be glad you still have your essence, Jack.

          1. Left Hand of Radar

            “Ice cream, Mandrake. Children’s ice cream!”

        3. Juice

          AH!!! That explains it. Your comment was moderated and took a a few minutes to appear.

          Again, not that I care… 🙂

          1. Cliche Bandit

            Juice “identifies” as First. It’s ok, Juice, this is a safe space.

  2. Juice

    Being an experimental scientist can sometimes seem like a thankless task.

    Except for the typically high salary, of course.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Where do I get one of those?

      1. Juice

        Become a professor at almost any US university or a researcher at any national or otherwise government lab. The pay is generally pretty damned good.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          Generally, not that fabulous. Not bad (a full prof in hard science at a major school might pull in $150-$175k or so) , but well under what a physician, dentist, or attorney with similar length of experience will make, unless you’re a superstar Nobelist. And those jobs are few and far between.

          1. Gadfly

            It’s all relative. You’re “not bad” is in relation to those other careers you listed, but I’d bet the “pretty damned good” comment is considering the salary in relation to the general populace, since $150k-$175k is right around top 10% level.

  3. SIV

    Children won’t live long enough to die of cholera or dysentery if “the ballooning piles of discarded mobile phones and other electronic and electrical waste” get them first.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      I was nearly crushed by a pile of electrical waste on my slog to work this morning.

        1. “That March 1984 Playboy has got to be around here, somewhere…YAAAAAAHHHH!!!”

          1. Jimbo

            I remember that one!

        2. Bobarian LMD

          There was a throw away line on Bob and Tom this morning about being crushed by a ‘load-bearing wall’.

        3. R C Dean

          That would be the third time that post has been linked at this blog, that I know of.

          Weird, how “Glibertarian” and “massive porn collection” seem to go together.

          1. Jimbo

            Hey, I resemble the insinuation!

  4. Endless Mike

    “fundamental physics like gravity and nuclear strong force”
    Woke theory adds perfect clarity to AGW .

    1. Glitterstorm

      Woke theory is my new term for arm chair scientists

      1. waffles

        I have had zero traffic citations since I put some smoky quartz and titanite in the change holder.

        1. Cliche Bandit

          This rock repels tigers.

  5. grrizzly

    Well, that makes sense.

    Another possible explanation is that extremely intelligent people may feel less bound by traditional moral codes. During his follow-up interviews, Oleson spoke with high-IQ subjects who suggested that adherence to standard rules and behaviors was important for the general public, but not for them. Many offenders he interviewed said they felt their own analyses of right and wrong were “legitimate, possibly superior, alternatives to obedience to conventional social norms and laws.”

    1. F. Stupidity Jr.

      Well, I’m not as smart as an Albert Einstein* or anything, but I feel like I could pull off a bank heist without getting caught. I don’t have the desire, but there must be smart people out there who feel they can do it and want to do so. So there’s one reason smart people might choose to commit crime.

      *You can tell how smart I’m not when my smart-person reference is Einstein. For people in my pay grade, it’s either him, Stephen Hawking, or, in a real big stretch, Richard Feynman.

      1. Hyperion

        It seems to me that it’s typically really dumb people who do crimes, not smart people. A week or so ago, there was the woman who shot her husband, took a photo of him lying dead on the floor and emailed it to people. Then called the cops after putting the gun in his hand.

        1. R C Dean

          Its the dumb ones who get caught. *taps side of nose knowingly

          As near as I can tell, the predisposition to crime comes from thrill-seeking behavior. I am fascinated by the American Greed series, which shows highly intelligent, functional people who could have made scads of money legally, but just can’t stop committing crimes. I think they do it for the adrenaline rush. To the extent crime is something intelligent people do, it might be because they are just bored.

          1. Brett L

            My FiL did it because he’s not as smart as he thinks he is. Of course, he got caught.

          2. trshmnstr

            To the extent crime is something intelligent people do, it might be because they are just bored.

            We had a corporate fraud investigator talk to us in our in-house internship class. I liked the way he put it, 10% of people are going to steal from you no matter what. 10% will never steal from you no matter what. 80% will steal if the circumstances are conducive.

          3. Cliche Bandit

            I apply this to all things security related.
            I lock my doors in a very safe neighborhood – won’t stop determined criminal
            I use encryption in my email – won’t stop NSA (well, it actually might at this point)
            I own a safe – won’t stop determined actor with time
            But the fact it stops 90% or more makes it pass the cost-benefit analysis.

          4. Viking1865

            Plus if you’re a comparatively more difficult target, that’s all you need. Like that old joke about running from the bear.

          5. Mad Scientist

            It’s the dumb ones who get caught because…take a look at who’s catching them.

      2. waffles

        But Feynman doesn’t seem like a genius. Super smart, no doubt. But for some reason his affable and sometimes obnoxious New York persona just makes him fall somewhere outside the stereotype. I really like his lectures, maybe he’s the genius for the common man.

    2. Hyperion

      “subjects who suggested that adherence to standard rules and behaviors was important for the general public, but not for them”

      If I had to guess who that line is describing, I would have to go with politicians.

    3. SimonD

      The survey wasn’t based on ‘smart people’. It was based on members of a selective high-intelligence society (“think, MENSA, but more selective*”). In other words, it was based on people who demanded everyone know and acknowledge just how smart they were (in the most obnoxious way possible). There are certainly other variables involved than intelligence.

      *the description is from the article

    4. mr simple

      Like I always say when someone quotes some stupid rule to me,

      “Rules are for people who need rules. I know what I’m doing.”

  6. When people ask why I can’t take Nicholas Cage seriously, I show them this.

    1. I need to watch Face/Off again. Nic Cage is awesome.

      1. Gilmore

        AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

        1. Bobarian LMD

          But whut about Con Air?

          1. Gilmore

            Con Air is great.

      2. He’s certainly something, anyway!

        Haven’t seen Face/Off. Would watch it based on that scene.

      3. waffles

        How am I unfamiliar with this masterpiece of American cinema?

        1. Gadfly

          It’s Nicholas Cage and Jon Travolta spending half of the movie playing to type and then the next half pretending to be each other. It’s great schlock.

          1. robc

            Face/off is one of the worst movies ever.

            Good nick cage movies:

            Raising Arizona. That is all.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            What about Con Air?

          3. Wild at Heart.

          4. The Last American Hero

            Honeymoon in Vegas

    2. Gilmore

      I think Nick Cage deserves all the disrepute he gets*…. that said = i think both Leaving Las Vegas and Adaptation were magnificent bits of acting, and that Raising Arizona is one of the funniest fucking movies ever made.

      (*the one that killed me was Face/Off. I actually went to the theaters for it. I think eventually i understood it as comedy, but at the time it felt like abuse)

      1. You might check this one out. A lot of people don’t realize he’s in it at all.

        1. waffles

          You need a time out.

        2. Jimbo

          Report as Spam

        1. Next time, let Carl take his pants down, slip this in his thigh, twist it. So the wound won’t close…

          RUH ROH

        2. Gilmore

          The way that film is edited should be categorized as a form of psychological abuse. Its Woo-itis at its worst. It makes you dizzy. There’s a line where “merely-absurd” becomes actually painful. Broken Arrow was absurd. Face/Off is painful

      2. Bobarian LMD

        “Her insides were a rocky place where my seed could find no purchase”

        One of the greatest lines in movie history.

        1. Juice

          That movie was full of them. It’s definitely one of my favorites of all time.

      3. Juvenile Bluster

        Raising Arizona came out 30 years ago today, in fact.

        Still awesome.

      4. R C Dean

        Raising Arizona is one of the funniest fucking movies ever made.

        True dat. The scene where he steals the Huggies . . . priceless.

        1. Chipwooder

          Hurry up son, I’m in Dutch with the wife!

    3. F. Stupidity Jr.

      I have as much respect for Cage as the next guy, but he was legitimately awesome in one of my favorite movies ever, Adaptation. I’m told he was excellent in Leaving Las Vegas as well.

      1. F. Stupidity Jr.

        Dammit GILMORE (I refuse to decapitalize your name, new site be damned), that was my comment on Cage! MY comment!

        1. Gilmore

          (shrug) if anything its validation of the point.

          I think he also probably deserves credit for Moonstruck, but its been ages since i saw it

          1. Tundra

            +1 big knife

          2. Gilmore

            I just re-watched that scene and i’ve changed my mind = he was ridiculous in that as well.

          3. John Titor

            He’s actually pretty good in Bad Lieutenant, but they give him plenty of scenes to ham it the fuck up.

      2. westernsloper

        Leaving Las Vegas is a great movie. Damn disturbing though.

        1. waffles

          It’s disturbing for how believable that depression is.

          1. westernsloper

            True that.

    4. Tundra

      Valley Girl was brilliant.

    5. Hyperion

      Have they seen Raising Arizona? That’s the reason I could never take him seriously.

      1. westernsloper

        Ya, he could have declined that role.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          I believe the settlement with the IRS and his creditors stipulates that he is no longer allowed to turn down any role.

  7. Berkeley Will Delete Online Content

    The University of California, Berkeley, will cut off public access to tens of thousands of video lectures and podcasts in response to a U.S. Justice Department order that it make the educational content accessible to people with disabilities.

    Today, the content is available to the public on YouTube, iTunes U and the university’s webcast.berkeley site. On March 15, the university will begin removing the more than 20,000 audio and video files from those platforms — a process that will take three to five months — and require users sign in with University of California credentials to view or listen to them.

    Thank goodness we have the government to protect us from uncaptioned lecture videos.

    1. Juice

      mother.fucker

    2. Trump can’t pardon them?

    3. Zero Sum Game

      I feel certain that I read about this months ago. Maybe it was another school, though.

      Social justice is really just marxism by a new name. The result is the same: everyone is equally lowered by it until nobody has anything of value.

      On the other hand, this ought to help make Berkeley less competitive, so perhaps we should encourage them to continue to cut their own noses off to spite their faces.

      1. Zero Sum Game

        I predict that this really only affects productive online learning videos of use to those who go on to be productive members of society. The sociology and race/gender studies department videos turned out to be really easy to caption:

        “Autistic screeching.”

    4. Juice

      Berkeley getting a taste of its own medicine?

      1. PBRstreetgang

        Yeah, I have trouble coming up with any sympathy for Berkeley on this one.

        1. Juice

          Only the people who are now denied access to the educational videos.

    5. Juice

      The department reached that conclusion after receiving complaints from two employees of Gallaudet University, saying Berkeley’s free online educational content was inaccessible to blind and deaf people because of a lack of captions, screen reader compatibility and other issues.

      There is a shitload of educational material online all over the place that isn’t captioned or in Braille, etc. Does all of that have to be updated too? This finding is absurd.

      1. Zero Sum Game

        There’s a shitload of information in libraries that isn’t accessible by anyone who refuses to go to a library.

        I propose that we burn all libraries. It’s the only logically supportable conclusion, given the precedent.

    6. Hyperion

      There’s no limit to Trump’s evil.

      1. Jimbo

        I laughed

    7. R C Dean

      Berkeley can’t be arsed to make course content accessible to the disabled? Seriously? Frickin’ Berkeley, with its $4 billion with a “b” endowment?

  8. Zero Sum Game

    For all of you super-intelligent, maladjusted commenters, a rumination on why you might turn to crime. And no, the answer isn’t because literally anything you do is probably illegal anyways.

    Joke’s on you. I’ve been conducting an experiment whereby every time I hit my head against the wall, social justice becomes easier to understand. I predict that I’ll be free of criminal impulses very soon.

  9. For the death metal fans:

    Lars Diedricson, writer of the 1999 Eurovision-winning song Take Me To Your Heaven has died aged 55. The only obituary I could find was in Swedish, and if I tried to link to it here the comment would wind up in moderation anyway.

    1. Sour Kraut

      The only obituary I could find was in Swedish

      After watching that, I can’t imagine why.

      1. Eurovision is, for some reason, insanely popular in Europe. (I think a lot of it is people watching to see just how awful the songs are.) You’d think that other European media outlets would mention the death of a Eurovision winner.

  10. Dr. Fronkensteen

    The Chinese military really doesn’t pay its soldiers much certainly vs our volunteers. You can’t determine military effectiveness based on monetary outlay only.

    1. Brett L

      Yeah, but they make it up on volume.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        My FiL can attest, as he spent seven days behind enemy lines when the Chinese came running across the Yalu.

  11. westernsloper

    Climate change is also taking its toll on children, the reports found.

    Rising levels of carbon dioxide contributes to pollen growth, which in turn is leading to rising rates of asthma in young people, the agency said.

    Kill a plant, save a child. And you gardeners out there. You are harming people. You should be ashamed.

    1. JaimeRoberto

      So now we’re not supposed to plant trees? I thought the science was settled.

  12. There oughtta be a law to make sure groups do what the overwhelming majority of them are already doing!

    “Our findings provide support for a new ‘sunshine’ law to oblige drug, device, and biotechnology companies to report the payments they make to patient organizations in the same way the must report payment to physicians and teaching hospitals,” said lead author Matthew McCoy, PhD, a postdoctoral fellow in the department of Medical Ethics & Health Policy at Penn Medicine.

    Results showed that the vast majority of the organizations received industry funding. More than 80 percent (86 out of 104) explicitly reported such support, and most of the remaining organizations left open the possibility of industry support by providing no donor information. Only one of the 104 patient-advocacy organizations stated plainly that it didn’t accept industry funding.

    1. thrakkorzog

      Dudes are allowed to cry about certain things. Usually of the dead family members, dead dogs variety. That Fresh Prince episode is slightly off the list, but it’s close enough that it’s allowable.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        WHY DOESN’T HE WANT ME, MAN?

        *sobs*

      2. Bobarian LMD

        C’mon… The Lion King?

        Lebron should have all the WNBA records.

        1. thrakkorzog

          Dead dad. It’s allowable.

      3. John Titor

        Also, if they witness something so profound and beautiful that they have no response but a single, manly tear.

        Moses knows what’s up.

      4. waffles

        Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey

        Shadow’s return gets me every time. Every damn time. Fuck you Disney for being so callously manipulative with my developing emotions!

    2. I cry at the thought of having to watch a chick flick.

      1. Deadpool is a chick flick, right?

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Like the best chick flick evah!

        2. bacon-magic

          If you had to peg it to one category, it might possibly fit.

          1. Jimbo

            Peg? Is that like an intercourse u-fa-mizm?

        3. The only reason to watch Now, Voyager is for Bette Davis’ nervous breakdown.

      2. BakedPenguin
        1. John Titor

          It’s telling that as soon as I see Cherbourg I think “Oh, a film about Nazi killin’! …oh wait, it is not about Nazi killin’ at all.”

          1. So it’s “The Umbrellas of Cherbourg”? A physically gorgeous movie to watch, but why did they have to sing all the fucking dialogue?

          2. BakedPenguin

            You said it above. Chick flick (if a very well done one.)

          3. And the only other movie that can match its garish color scheme is Torch Song, which is hilariously awful.

        2. grrizzly

          I watched this movie as a kid when my parents had a black-and-white TV, so I was surprised to realize that it was actually a color movie when I watched it a couple of years ago. The actor is very good-looking, I wonder why he didn’t become more famous.

          1. BakedPenguin

            He mostly stayed in Italy. He did appear in The English Patient.

    3. westernsloper

      The first time I saw August Rush was on an Austrian flight into Erbil. Overhead monitors where everyone watched the same movie. The plane was filled with roided out security contractors. I was blubbering when August was reunited with his parents. I got some strange looks. Fuck them, it was a good movie.

  13. thom

    Can somebody with a lawyerly understanding of the Constitution explain something to me. The Department of Homeland Security is threatening that the entire population of my state (Minnesota) will be banned from flying on airplanes and entering Federal buildings effective Jan 1 unless our legislature makes our drivers licence’s “Real ID Compliant”. Everybody is acting like this is a serious threat and the Federal government will really do this and hold the entire state prisoner for not issuing the correct pieces of plastic. This can’t possibly pass Constitutional muster, can it?

    1. Brett L

      Access to these things are not subject to Constitutional review unless or until they stop you from exercising some right. (Or unless you are unable to complete some Federally required task because you cannot access their facilities)

      Airports are definitely a Constitution free zone.

      1. thom

        Interesting. So on Jan 1 we all sue? And then all of our lawsuits are dismissed when we don’t show up because we can’t get in the building?

        1. Brett L

          Not to worry, as a defendent in a criminal trial, you won’t need ID verification.

    2. It’s Constitutional under the FYTW Clause.

    3. Hyperion

      Isn’t that a regulatory thing? If so, then quite apparently, judging by the things they’ve been doing the last few decades, it doesn’t fall under the rule of the constitution. Or rather, it cannot be restrained by the constitution. So, you have the right to your amendments, unless we make a regulation that says you don’t.

    4. Juvenile Bluster

      Technically, you won’t be able to use your drivers license to do that. You can use another ID. I generally use my Passport Card anyways, because I’m paranoid of letting an underpaid TSA drone who’ll probably quit in 2 weeks see where I live and know that I’ll be away for a while.

      But it’s only constitutional because of FYTW, which is the most important clause in the Constitution according to the government.

    5. westernsloper

      Show me where in the constitution it says using airports, and or using any form of travel is a constitutional right. They are not stopping you from free movement. Drive. Walk. Ride a bike.

      1. Ninth Amendment.

        (OK, I’ll stop laughing.)

        1. westernsloper

          I don’t get it. There are obvious abuses concerning enumerated rights, ie the 2nd, searches at the airports, on and on, but I am not seeing how requiring a certain type of ID infringes on an enumerated right. (I am prepared to be made to feel stupid)

          It is dumb that they have done that, and an unnecessary requirement by the fed gov, but I don’t see how it infringes constitutionally anymore than them groping my nuts in a security line.

          1. R C Dean

            I am not seeing how requiring a certain type of ID infringes on an enumerated right.

            Well, the 9th is for unenumerated rights.

            I don’t see how it infringes constitutionally anymore than them groping my nuts in a security line.

            They are both unconstitutional?

          2. westernsloper

            They are both unconstitutional?

            Ok, I will buy that after reading a bit more on the 9th. I was more reverting to the idea the Fed’s were not stopping anyone from travel, since airlines are not the only form of travel. I was not advocating that the the federal takeover of airline security was constitutional. The ID is just another layer. Of all the stupid comments I have made, my original one there is on that list.

          3. If the airlines want to force you to use such a document to travel, that’s their business. But the State has no right to interfere in your contract with an airline to fly wherever just because the State doesn’t like what document you’re using.

          4. westernsloper

            Ya, I got it Ted, you can quit laughing at me now!

    6. hayeksplosives

      For now, go ahead and get an “Enhanced Driver’s License” in Minnesota. I had to switch to that because I have to go to military bases for my work. It costs a little more than the standard one, but it is compliant. I am applying for a CAC anyway, just to be safe.

      Not every MN license center can issue them, so make sure and look it up online and figure out what you need to bring where.

    1. Juice

      He [finger quotes]killed himself[/finger quotes].

  14. Just Say’n

    https://middleburycampus.com/article/why-im-declining-aeis-invitation-to-argue/

    This guy is ‘woke’. One of the people that tried to shut-down Charles Murray’s speech at Middlebury.

    From the article: “Indeed, when I first arrived at Middlebury I was clueless to the systems of power constructed around race, gender, sexuality, class or ability, and found that when I talked about these issues as I understood them — or rather, as I didn’t — I was met with blank stares and stigma rather than substantial debate. As a young bigot, I can recall thinking: “I thought at Middlebury I would get to have intellectual discussions, but instead it feels as though my views are being censored.” However, as a first-year I had failed to consider a simple, yet powerful component of debate: not all opinions are valid opinions. I had fallen into the trap of false equivalence.

    False equivalence is simple: just because two sides are opposed does not mean they are equally logically valid.”

    1. What colleges are still unWoke?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        All the racist ones. Which is… all of them.

      2. Just Say’n

        Hillsdale College and maybe Catholic University?

        1. John Brown University I think would be fine, but it’s Christian, and stuff, so only My People will feel comfortable there.

        2. Viking1865

          Catholic University

          Every single dude I met at CUA:

          “I’m ______. I’m from Philly/New York….well, just outside of Philly/NY…..Jersey actually.”

    2. Drake

      In other words, Middlebury taught him to be a closed-minded asshole who only understands violence.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        He sounds like someone who got his first piece of ass from a militant feminist.

        Ruint fer life.

    3. Zero Sum Game

      False equivalence is simple: just because two sides are opposed does not mean they are equally logically valid.

      Yep, that’s exactly why I stopped reading at this inappropriate use of a logical fallacy.

      Having political or social opinions aren’t always logically supportable. The whole point of debating them to begin with is to see if there is a thread of logical validity to be found in either side’s position. And interacting with an idea or a worldview is not the same as accepting it. You don’t read Marx to become a Marxist. You read Marx to understand his ideas so that you are better positioned to argue with them if you don’t agree. Delegating your responsibility to the elites to tell you what someone thinks rather than getting it directly from the horse’s mouth is intellectually lazy and, in this case, a slippery slope right into censorship.

    4. TripodKat

      This made me rage pretty hard. But honestly, I don’t even believe him. Whenever I read an article in which the author claims to have had “seen the light” without providing any specific descriptions of what their policy positions used to be, I raise an eyebrow. Another red flag is when the author provides description of their “former positions” that are obviously strawman arguments and are obviously meant to delegitimize other people.

      The author also says “I understand the premise: a college should be a place for rigorous academic discussion, where students should argue, disagree, learn from their disagreements and thereby learn from each other… My hope is that this piece contributes to rather than sabotages this ideal.”

      Then he follows up by basically arguing that everyone should agree with him because “its 2017.” I don’t believe for a second that this guy was “a young bigot” that saw the progressive light.

      1. Just Say’n

        ‘Bigot’ has been whittled down to the point where believing in logic makes one a bigot or believing in free speech makes one a bigot.

    5. Juice

      To his credit, Bill Nye did not physically assault Ken Ham.

      1. Just Say’n

        Isn’t it sad that that even needs to be applauded anymore?

      2. Would he have assualted Ken Spam?

    6. mr simple

      I think it’s nice they’re letting retards into college and publishing their writings.

      1. Juice

        They have to under the ADA.

  15. Hyperion

    Whew! It’s a good thing we finally got afternoon links, before a full on pizza war erupted. We’re saved!

    1. Tundra

      Pizza sucks.

      1. DOOMco

        calzone man, huh?

        1. Tundra

          Damn straight.

          1. Tundra

            Actually, I’ll take stromboli over both of them.

          2. DOOMco

            My roommates mom sends us a gift box of cookies every month (she runs a company out of her kitchen) but every now and then we get her stromboli. good god.

          3. hayeksplosives

            The Commissary at Ft Sill, OK, used to stock a frozen stromboli that was absolutely to die for. Never found it anywhere else. I has a sad.

    2. The anti-pineapple people were about to sue for peace, anyway.

      1. thom

        Pineapple and banana peppers, FTW.

        1. mr simple

          I think I finally understand literally can’t even-ing.

    3. grrizzly

      Hawaiian pizza is my favorite pizza. By far.

      1. Sour Kraut

        So it’s to be the 30 years war then. If so, I get to be the Swedes.

        1. Why would you want to be a turnip?

        2. mikey

          Actually sauerkraut is really good on pizza. Especially with pepperoni.

      2. RBS

        Shouldn’t Hawaiian pizza have SPAM instead of ham?

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Spicy Spam.

        2. Different recipe:

          Make Mac’n’Cheese

          Slice and fry Spam

          Mix together.

          1. bacon-magic

            Try that with canned ham chunks(the tuna can size) and spiral mac. Delicious. My aquatic biology teacher made that on a canoe trip.

          2. Bobarian LMD

            My aquatic biology teacher

            Best euphemism for ‘abuser’ I’ve ever heard.

          3. bacon-magic

            I wasn’t abused! I did however manage to flip the canoe that I and the hottest chick in the class were in. We were stuck on a snag and there was a freaking cottonmouth(no, not a pot head, he was in the canoe) in the tree above us. She probably still hates me. I still regret not having a smartphone to immortalize dat ass I watched the whole time til she switched canoes.

          4. Bobarian LMD

            I wasn’t abused!

            Keep telling yourself! You’ll block it out.

          5. bacon-magic

            Not by him, at least. He couldn’t stand me. I never had my homework and passed all the tests. He failed me and told me my laziness would catch up to me. It did. /self-abuser

        3. westernsloper

          That is an excellent point.

      3. You can have it.

        I’ll be over here eating a pizza with all the meats* on it. Like God intended.

        *And mushrooms–the meatiest of the vegetables

        1. Zero Sum Game

          Hear, hear!

        2. bacon-magic

          Mmmmm mushrooms. It’s almost morel hunting season here. One of the few times I get off my lazy fat ass and walk through the woods.

          1. I love mushrooms. Regular mushrooms. Haven’t ever tried the fun kind.

            It’s neat that you live in an area where morel hunting is an option!

          2. Bobarian LMD

            We’ve been talking about fried wild turkey breast and morels in cream of mushroom soup today.

            Now my stomach’s grumbling and my mouth is watering.

          3. bacon-magic

            Morels fried in butter with a cracker crust is the best way imo. Add fried rabbit, gravy and potatoes(oh how I miss thee potato!) or a B.L.T. and I’m in heaven.

          4. bacon-magic

            Morels are edible. Very tasty. Not Psilocybin type which I know nothing about. *looks at own avatar with a rictus grin*

        3. mr simple

          God didn’t intend for all the meats to he mixing together, which is why he originally put them all on their own pizzas. You got your pepperoni on your pepperoni pizza, you sausage on your sausage pizza, etc. They’re all much happier that way.

          1. Zero Sum Game

            Either it was all part of his plan, or he created humans with free will so that we could perfect the pizza with all the meats (and mushrooms). Either way, all-the-meats pizza is clearly divinely inspired.

            Checkmate, atheists.

            Er, wait. I’m an atheist. Playing chess against myself, I’m always a winner right?

      4. TripodKat

        Thats fucked up. You’re a fucked up person.

        1. Juice

          Is that a … turd on the right side of the pizza?

      5. Old Man With Candy

        So, at what point was your retardation diagnosed?

    4. Hyperion

      At least the hummus cult didn’t follow us over here.

      1. *Looks through pirate telescope at hummus cult*

        …I propose an alliance.

      2. bacon-magic

        Hummus is awesome. I wonder if anyone has tried to make a bacon topped hummus?

        1. DOOMco

          *scurries to kitchen*

        2. I wonder… so would you emulsify bacon grease into the chickpeas instead of olive oil, maybe?

          1. westernsloper

            I think that would be Bummis. And taste like the seat of a sweaty truck drivers truck.

    5. John Titor

      As far as I’m concerned, you’re a Pizza Nazi Hyperion, and I’m going to punch you.

      1. Zero Sum Game

        What do they call a Pizza Nazi with cheese in countries without the metric system?

        1. bacon-magic

          OMWC?

      2. Hyperion

        Pizza Nazis unite! Someone, catass this guy!

    6. Look we are never gonna agree on what does or does not belong on a pizza *coughamonionmushroomsh*, or if your crust should be thin (as god would have intended it if he existed) or some abomination in a cast iron skillet. What I think we can all agree on is that the secret* to ‘The Hyperbole’s perfect pizza dough’ which I divulged yesterday is a game-changer.

      *rhymes with ‘sesame oil”

      1. Mad Scientist

        We don’t have to agree. Be we are woke about pizza, and people who put pineapple on theirs are pizza deniers.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    The WHO posts what may be the most mendacious study results ever

    Listen, pal. Those NGO parasite jobs don’t save or create themselves.

  17. westernsloper

    If only the Illuminati actually ran things

    And how exactly do you know they don’t smart guy?

  18. TucoRamirez

    a co-worker still has a christmas song as a ringtone. i hear the thing about a dozen times a day. a jury wouldn’t convict me, would it?

    1. Tundra

      Dude, just change yours to Olivia Newton John’s Let’s Get Physical.

      Within a week, there will be a company-wide ban on ringtones.

      1. Gilmore

        That is brilliant

      2. TucoRamirez

        ringtones are for women anyway, not grown men. if i did that, i’d have to kill myself.

        1. mr simple

          Speak truth to power, brother.

      3. Rufus the Monocled

        Oh FFS now I have that song in my head – and that video.

        Thanks Tundra.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Yes! We used to watch that when I was a kid. I learned all my best dance moves from them.

          2. R C Dean

            So euphemism.

    2. Sonoran Desert Rat
  19. bacon-magic

    Nice alt-text. Different alt-text: “This is why I act.”/Nicholas Cage. He is a national treasure.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      That would be the best alt text.

  20. Gilmore

    A photo montage of Arab-refugees … fleeing the USA for Canada.

    It looks like all of about 3 families, photographed from a lot of different angles to give the impression that ‘its a thing’ rather than an odd-choice.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      Am I not getting the joke, or is that the wrong link?

      1. Gilmore

        lol

        i guess my copy-paste got screwed up
        this was the intended article

        1. Bobarian LMD

          You’re not fooling me, those are Mexicans pretending to be Middle-Easterners.

      2. Hyperion

        One of the refugees looks exactly like John Travolta. No wonder Trump is doing this. MAGA!

        1. Just Say’n

          Marge: “That bartender looks just like John Travolta”

          Bartender: “Yeah, looks like”

        2. John Titor

          That is Travolta, he’s fleeing Scientology.

          (by the way everyone, watch “Going Clear”, it’s great)

    2. Juice

      is this a new kind of rickroll?

  21. The Late P Brooks

    The department reached that conclusion after receiving complaints from two employees of Gallaudet University, saying Berkeley’s free online educational content was inaccessible to blind and deaf people because of a lack of captions, screen reader compatibility and other issues.

    The Dog in the Manger strikes again.

    1. PBRstreetgang

      But now, all non-Berkeley students have “equal access” to that on-line content. Objective met.

      1. R C Dean

        Believe it or not, to the activists, this will count as a win.

        Way back when I was just a baby lobbyist, I ran into a bunch of deaf activists pushing to have payphones outlawed unless they were deaf-accessible. When it was pointed out this would not result in more deaf-accessible phones, but just a reduction of regular phones, so there was really no upside in the new rule for them, they didn’t care. It wasn’t about helping deaf people, it was about punishing people with hearing.

        1. DOOMco

          How politics works in the 21st century.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    The Department of Homeland Security is threatening that the entire population of my state (Minnesota) will be banned from flying on airplanes and entering Federal buildings effective Jan 1 unless our legislature makes our drivers licence’s “Real ID Compliant”.

    I haven’t heard anything about it lately, but I believe Montana is also not in compliance. If I recall correctly, Governor Schweitzer, said, “We ain’t payin’ for that.”

    1. Bobarian LMD

      KY is in the same boat.

      1. The Last American Hero

        Wa is caving. Pussies missing out on a chance to poke Trump in the eye, but statists are gonna statist.

    1. Gilmore

      I wrote Reason a while back asking them to do a story about Pogo and how he got banned from the USA

      he’s written about libertarian ideas on his blog before and i thought his story made for a very compelling argument why American immigration enforcement is often unbelievably stupid and self-destructive.

      never got a reply. or, i can’t remember if they did.

      1. I hate our government so much.

      2. RBS

        I used to get replies from Balko, Cavanaugh and Tucille.

        1. Gilmore

          Oh, i wasn’t picking on them so much, i just think he made a great story *at the time* (2013-2014) and it was too bad they passed on it.

          I probably would have sent it to welch in any case.

      3. grrizzly

        I’m not sure what you want. Pogo worked in the US (as is got paid). It’s a huge no on a tourist visa or visa waiver.

        1. Hyperion

          Well, if he would have just walked on across the border with no visa at all, the left would come to his aid and called him a ‘dreamer’ or something else meaningless like that.

        2. Gilmore

          I agree that he was stupid and naive.

          It was the “banned for 10 years” part that i thought deserved scrutiny

      4. That story is too local.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    However, as a first-year I had failed to consider a simple, yet powerful component of debate: not all opinions are valid opinions. I had fallen into the trap of false equivalence.

    That’s just… like… your opinion, Man.

    Also- that kid is retarded.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Also- that kid is retarded.

      *readies molotov cocktail*

    2. Old Man With Candy

      Also- that kid is retarded.

      Puts pineapple on pizza?

  24. Juvenile Bluster

    Justice Department asks to drop Playpen child porn case to prevent releasing Tor exploit

    Remind me again why our government was actually running a child porn site for several weeks?

    1. It’s related to PizzaGate, I’m sure.

    2. Juice

      Wait, so they want to drop their prosecution of child porn distributors so that they themselves can continue to distribute child porn?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        They want to drop the prosecution so they don’t have to out the flaw in Tor that they’re using to catch people.

        This flaw, by the way, also likely exists in Mozilla products (Tor is based on Firefox), so by refusing to release the exploit the government is allowing millions of people who use Firefox (including me) to be exposed to a possible zero day flaw.

        1. Juice

          I thought they already said that it was getting dumbasses to turn on flash while visiting the site where the FBI distributes the child porn. I didn’t think it was a flaw with Tor.

          They caught Ross Ulbricht when he fucked up and accidentally outed himself. They were able to use his IP address to figure out where the Silk Road Tor hidden server was located and commandeered it. There was no flaw in Tor they exploited. They exploited human carelessness.

      2. R C Dean

        And now, everyone they catch has a get-out-of-jail free card. This particular method of investigating and prosecuting child porn enthusiasts is now useless.

    3. Bobarian LMD

      You can’t catch flies without honey…

      And who has the best kiddie porn? The FBI.

      1. Zero Sum Game

        I’d joke that you’ve been added to a list, but obviously we all are already on several.

        Your threat coefficient went up though, comrade.

    4. Hyperion

      To save the children.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Remind me again why our government was actually running a child porn site for several weeks?

    “If you want the job done right, get somebody from the government to do it.”?

  26. Zero Sum Game

    How you can tell that ObamaCare is still working.

    But insurers in many markets have been pulling back from the exchanges after losing money. According to an analysis by the Associated Press and the health care firm Avalere Health, more than 1,000 counties, where about 2.8 million people are insured through the exchanges, are down to their last insurance carrier, according to the most recent data.

    Maybe we just need to keep it to find out what’s in it.

    1. Hyperion

      No one needs more than one insurance carrier. Heh, that’s an actual argument of the left. Their utopia is on it’s way.

      1. Zero Sum Game

        Back before it first passed, I floated the idea around TSTSNBN that it was built broken on purpose so that when it eventually failed, it would justify their complete takeover. A lot of people thought I was a loon, but I’ve noticed that the idea has gained some momentum.

        Consider current events. I think they really believed they’d built an unbreakable coalition and we’d be basking in the glory of socialism in perpetuity. They figured they had time to make us all swallow the bitter pill that was already unpopular when they first proposed it. Things obviously didn’t work out as planned, and the ACA is the thing that has Obama’s knickers in such a twist that he stayed in Washington to hector the new Administration and try to thwart any progress it makes.

        1. Viking1865

          I floated the idea around TSTSNBN that it was built broken on purpose so that when it eventually failed

          The combination of the penaltax and guaranteed issue could lead to no other result.

          Your average prog voter doesn’t understand that, but the people who wrote the bill knew exactly what they were doing.

        2. Gilmore

          Back before it first passed, I floated the idea around TSTSNBN that it was built broken on purpose so that when it eventually failed, it would justify their complete takeover. A lot of people thought I was a loon, but I’ve noticed that the idea has gained some momentum.

          That idea was probably most-popular around 2011-2013, and less so now.

          I think the “intended to fail” argument was undermined by the fact that Obama didn’t try to impose the “Fixes” that would lead to Single-Payer ASAP

          1. Zero Sum Game

            If he had, it would be seen as an admission of the original intent.

            If he dragged it to the top of the hill, got some Republican concessions in it, and let the rollercoaster go on its own, he could deflect all criticism to them. It failed because we tried to work with those dastardly Republicans. This is why we need to do it all ourselves, without their input.

            He may well have intended to leave the mess to be dealt with by the next Democrat (presuming, falsely, that they had said perpetual lock on the office). Time tends to make people forget as well as soften their views. Hell, they’re even trotting out old Dubya now that he’s saying some things they like and toothless to do anything. They hated his guts, but now due to time he’s transformed into a sage old Republican and the new one with power is crazy and lawless and should heed his predecessor.

          2. Gilmore

            I think he honestly didn’t think too hard about it, and assumed it would work about as well as Massachusetts system works

            basically, i don’t think the “designed to fail” thing is actually true at all. It was designed to deceive, no doubt. I think if the single payer thing was more a ‘backup plan’ in the event of failure… but not the assumed goal.

          3. R C Dean

            Sounds about right. And, with the backup plan, they really didn’t care much if it worked or not.

          4. Viking1865

            Foreseeable consequences are not, cannot, be unintended ones. I am not an actuary, I am not an insurance broker, hell I flunked Algebra II, but I can do simple fucking math.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Wasn’t that always the plan? Insurers keep quitting the exchanges because they’re losing money. Before long thousands of counties and millions of people have zero options on the exchange. And that’s how you get a “public option”.

    3. Gilmore

      Notice the strong overlap with this map

      (*excepting Wyoming, Arizona)

      1. AceDroman

        Why is Alaska so fat? To survive the winter I guess?

        1. Gilmore

          i have no freaking clue.

    4. R C Dean

      Maybe we just need to keep it to find out what’s in it.

      Apparently, not many insurance policies.

  27. DOOMco

    success on the truck! took an hour drive, tried to make it extra warm by going uphill the whole time. shut off, walk away for 15. Turned right over, no choke or any funny tricks. just first try, right away. I should still rebuild the carb, but maybe this means I can wait a bit.

    1. bacon-magic

      Eh, put some seafoam in it and you’re good to go.

      1. DOOMco

        I watched one guy’s videos on a rebuild. He’s pretty well known in the landcruiser community. It’s got to be the most complicated thing they put in the truck. It was made worse by our friends at the EPA. My FSM has a breakdown of all the different ones they used, based on where it was sold. The American one is a few pages longer.

  28. trshmnstr

    Half of us can’t cut a $500 check

    I’ve seen surveys like this before, and they are usually a little misleading. They typically don’t take credit cards into account. However, the idea that 56% of people don’t have a $500 emergency fund is scary, much scarier than antifa crap or SJW takeovers or shitty socialist programs. 150 million people in this country couldn’t handle getting laid off, let alone a moderate downturn in the economy.

    This is why inflation is the second most pernicious form of taxation behind property taxes. When you incentivize living on margin, you put people in a very precarious position.

    1. Zero Sum Game

      However, the idea that 56% of people don’t have a $500 emergency fund is scary, much scarier than antifa crap or SJW takeovers or shitty socialist programs.

      The difference between Obama’s definition of “employed” and actually being employed.

      And you’re right, it’s especially dangerous. As far as causes of civil wars go, hunger tends to beat ideology. Hell, just look at Venezuela. There is still a group that doesn’t believe the ideology has caused the problems they face, but hunger is a reality they won’t quickly escape.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Saving is for suckers. Deficits don’t matter anymore.

    3. That really is unsettling. In an ideal world, I’d like to have ~six months worth of expenses saved up, but I have a hard time with more than that because that money would just be sitting there not doing jack.

      1. trshmnstr

        but I have a hard time with more than that because that money would just be sitting there not doing jack.

        Roth IRA is your friend. Keep 1 or 2 months’ worth in cash (enough to get past an emergency that would require payment in less than a week) and the rest in a Roth IRA. Because of the caps, it takes a couple years to get to a full 6 months’ worth that can be withdrawn without penalty, but at least you’re making money in the market while still being able to have fairly quick emergency access to it.

        1. DOOMco

          I love my Roth. It was the best hint my parents gave me.

        2. Akira

          What’s your opinion of Money Market accounts?

          1. trshmnstr

            What are they pulling today? 1%? IMO, it’s not worth the additional regulations (minimum balances, etc). I’d rather take the 1% hit and keep it in a checking account where they don’t get bitchy about my 7th withdrawal of the month. If I really don’t need the money in the short-term, the Roth IRA is gonna do an order of magnitude better on the return.

        3. Rasilio

          Roth IRA is a suckers bet.

          Do you honestly expect that when SS runs out of money the government is not going to confiscate your retirement savings in return for some new SS plus benefit that they will fund with the seized money so they can keep the charade chugging along for a few more years?

          1. R C Dean

            My theory is that the feds will stealth confiscate tax-advantaged retirement accounts by requiring them to keep X% of their assets in Treasuries. For safety, you know. This is essentially the feds taking your cash and giving you an IOU. Such a deal!

          2. trshmnstr

            Do you honestly expect that when SS runs out of money the government is not going to confiscate your retirement savings in return for some new SS plus benefit that they will fund with the seized money so they can keep the charade chugging along for a few more years?

            I think that the chances of gov’t stealing my retirement account are pretty low. Until and unless they start seriously agitating for that, I’ll take advantage of the benefits. Standard diversification disclaimers apply here.

          3. Viking1865

            It depends on how many people have been impoverished first. I guarantee you right now in Venezuela a mob is lynching someone who’s managed to stockpile a little extra rice, and that mob thinks they’re doing the right thing distributing the hoarders ill gotten loot to the starving masses.

          4. The Last American Hero

            Yep. If you think a net worth tax isn’t coming, you haven’t been paying attention.

    4. DOOMco

      Every time one of my friends on the left wants to raise min wage or complains about something like this I always give my “what I would do if I were in charge” speech.
      no income tax. No payroll tax. there, everyone just got a huge raise, and can ask for more. let people opt out of SS, eventually ending it.
      That alone, before we talk about starting businesses or building more housing to lower prices, lower prop tax to lower rents, or anything else would help so many working people get off the ground floor.

      1. I make well under $15/hour, and I owe money to the taxman this year.

      2. Hyperion

        Property tax should just be eliminated. A one time 15% sales tax is ok, but when you pay off your home, you should be able to stop making payments on it.

        1. DOOMco

          100% agreed.

        2. Sure, if you don’t want the gov’t to enforce your ownership for you.

          1. Viking1865

            Do you know what property tax pays for?

          2. I’d assume it depends on where you live, however if it is not your property taxes that pay for your ownership insurance than what taxes do, income, sales, payroll? someone defends your property rights, if it aint you then it is the government, why shouldn’t you be taxed to pay for that service in a (fuck, some word that sounds like consummate but isn’t) manner.

          3. Commensurate, dammit, call Bacon-magic so he can call the edit fairy.

          4. Viking1865

            The government doesn’t defend my property rights, the government is the primary violator of my property rights.

          5. So if someone trespasses or squats on your land, who you gonna call. If your neighbor claims that the property line isn’t the hedgerow but halfway through your garage, how do you settle that?

          6. Hyperion

            I was told it’s roads and bridges. I don’t give a fuck, it’s bullshit that on one can actually own property.

          7. Hyperion

            no one

          8. DOOMco

            You should be able to live off the fucking grid.

          9. R C Dean

            So if someone trespasses or squats on your land, who you gonna call.

            Dude, I live in the desert. I wouldn’t even have to call the morgue.

          10. R C Dean

            Feh, forgot link.

            Dude, I live in the desert. I wouldn’t even have to call the morgue.

          11. Viking1865

            So if someone trespasses or squats on your land, who you gonna call.

            I have a rifle, and I have the ability to speak. If they don’t leave when asked, I have the rifle, and a shovel to go with it.

            I mean, the one time I actually needed the police’s help in recovering stolen property, they did jack shit.

            If your neighbor claims that the property line isn’t the hedgerow but halfway through your garage, how do you settle that?

            Well you head down to the courthouse and examine the records. Which could easily be done via a private company, or by no one at all, through decentralized methods.

            Like, let’s say I have a working hyperdrive, and I load up 500,000 libertarians and we ship out for the Trappist system. Do you really think we would need property taxes to register claims and prevent trespass?

            Even if I were to concede that government performs some functions better than the private sector, the fact is that 95% of the property tax bill is for things better left to the market, namely the indoctrination centers they call schools.

          12. I have a rifle, and I have the ability to speak. If they don’t leave when asked, I have the rifle, and a shovel to go with it.

            And when the squatter is better armed and quicker on the draw?

            Which could easily be done via a private company

            And who pays for that?

            I am not saying that you are getting the bang for your buck on property taxes, I get the school thing,(no kids myself, and I absolutely abhor that I subsidize the busing for those twits that drive their kids to the end of their driveway to wait for the bus then drive back to the house, or worse yet pull out and follow the bus down the road? You were fucking going somewhere anyway and you can’t take your god-damned kid to school first, better that I should sit behind this big yellow road tortoise for mile after mile cuz kids these days can’t even be arsed to walk a half mile and catch the bus at one location preferably off the road so the rest of us can get on with our lives..but i digess) however unless you want to go full an-cap (which I’m amenable to) one has to admit that property owners do benefit from the state running things, poorly as they might, and if someone’s gonna pay, it might as well be the land owner. You want to opt out of all government protection/dispute resolution, I’ll fight that battle with you. but if we have a government that enforces property rights, property owners should pay for that and property taxes are the only fair way to assess those taxes.

          13. trshmnstr

            if we have a government that enforces property rights, property owners should pay for that and property taxes are the only fair way to assess those taxes.

            This assumes that property ownership is a privilege bestowed by the sovereign. Should I have to pay the crown for the ability to speak my mind or to own a gun? What about to keep them from quartering soldiers in my house? What’s special about owning land that makes it suddenly okay to have a tax just for possessing it?

          14. trshmnstr

            property taxes are the only fair way to assess those taxes

            how about we charge for usage of government services instead of for basic rights? You want to go to court to figure out where the property line is? Fine, but it’s gonna cost you $1000. You want to record your deed with the county? Fine, it’s $500. You want the cops to come when you call 911? Fine, it’s $35/month.

          15. Viking1865

            And who pays for that?

            Is that a serious question?

            How on earth do we keep who owns what web address straight without a Department of Web Addresses?

          16. What’s special about owning land that makes it suddenly okay to have a tax just for possessing it?

            It’s not the owning it’s the keeping.

            you must have missed this part

            You want to opt out of all government protection/dispute resolution, I’ll fight that battle with you.

          17. trshmnstr

            you must have missed this part

            No, I’m just missing how it’s relevant. I’m not against paying for government protection/dispute resolution. I just think that property tax is the single most evil, liberty-killing form of taxation ever dreamed up. I’d pay $2 in income tax for every $1 reduction in property tax because that’s how evil I think property taxes are.

            Nothing says that the government owns you quite like being taxed simply for living somewhere.

          18. How on earth do we keep who owns what web address straight without a Department of Web Addresses

            Honestly I don’t know, I’m just a guy who earns a living making sawdust. Serious question- because I don’t really know all that much abut how these tubes work – could some own forcibly take my web address from me? and if they did is there a group of people who, free of charge, get it back for me?

          19. So you are okay paying the government to protect your property but don’t want that payment based on how much property you own? One guy makes beau coup bucks but owns a tiny townhouse and should pay more than the poor (on paper) rancher who owns thousands of acres? both rely on the state to enforce their property right, when one could do it himself with a shotgun and the other would have to hire a team of regulators to do it for him. Someone’s getting a sweetheart deal out of this.

          20. trshmnstr

            One guy makes beau coup bucks but owns a tiny townhouse and should pay more than the poor (on paper) rancher who owns thousands of acres?

            Depends. Is Mr. Townhouse living in a nice area with low crime? How about Mr. Rancher? How much work does the government have to do for each?

            both rely on the state to enforce their property right, when one could do it himself with a shotgun and the other would have to hire a team of regulators to do it for him. Someone’s getting a sweetheart deal out of this.

            Bullshit. One’s need for enforcement is not strongly correlated to the amount of property they own. A 700sqft apartment in the southside of Chicago uses up shit-tons more government services than a 10,000 acre ranch in the middle of Texas. Besides, property taxes are on the value, not the size of the property.

          21. trshmnstr

            So you are okay paying the government to protect your property but don’t want that payment based on how much property you own?

            I’m not paying them to protect my property. I’m paying them to clean things up once I’m done protecting my property. There is a disconnect between use and property taxes that is being ignored here. I could own a million acres, or a tenth of an acre, and if I call the cops to remove one trespasser, they’re only being used to remove one trespasser. Why should Mr. Million acres have to pay ten-million times as much to have a trespasser removed than Mr. Tenth? Even moreso, why should Mr. Million-dollar-house have to pay more to remove a trespasser than Mr. Hundred-thousand-dollar-house?

            Then, when we expand things out to other services, like emergency responders and schooling, we pretty much have the same Obamacare community rating bullshit baked into the local and state government. You’re a single 20 something? You’re to pay for the schools your nonexistent kids don’t go to and the emergency responders you use 1/100 as much as your elderly neighbors.

            I really need to write that article I’ve been promising on how evil property taxes are.

          22. I’m not paying them to protect my property

            Yes you are, the services you mention are ancillary to the primary purpose of government when it comes to property. Try owning a million acres without a government, your going to need to create one (or something very similar to one) if you want to retain ownership of that land.

            I really need to write that article I’ve been promising on how evil property taxes are.

            When you do,I’d be interested in writing a counterpoint essay, that is if horrid spelling and even worse grammar is tolerated round here.

          23. trshmnstr

            Try owning a million acres without a government, your going to need to create one (or something very similar to one) if you want to retain ownership of that land.

            How does this not apply to every single other fundamental right, though? I guess we should have a poll tax, because the government needs to keep the KKK from scaring the black folks off. We need to have a speech tax because the government needs to keep antifa from bashing Milo’s head in. We need to have a due process tax because the government protects you from having a rogue cop toss you in prison for looking at him wrong.

    5. Rufus the Monocled

      I have over $2000 sitting in a U.S. bank account…and I’m….well as you all know, from another country that shall remain unnamed.

      Not only that I invested in the USA.

      What are you people good for?

      1. Hyperion

        What are you people good for?

        Keeping out the Canadians? Ok, we’re not even good at that. Trump, move that wall!

      2. westernsloper

        It must be nice to open a bank account in another country. As and American, I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          It’s pretty sad when a Canadian can cut a $500 check more than most Americans apparently.

          1. Yo Rufus, My Man!!, you are looking good, say could I maybe get a few ducats from ya, I’m good for it, you know that. Say five hundo? that cool?.

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            Sure. Call Vinny the Doge. He usually sets things up for me.

          3. Yeah, thing is I could use it right now y’know. If you could just cut a check, make it out to cash tho, I got a thing going on and my bank is being a dick about it.

          4. westernsloper

            I was trying to make the point there is no country on the planet that will let an American open a checking account thanks to the IRS. Well, normal people anyway. I am sure the uppercrust can. I couldn’t do it when I used to get paid in AUD.

          5. Rufus the Monocled

            Yeh. Sucks.

      3. What are you people good for?

        Absolutely nothing, say it again.

    6. Rasilio

      The problem is if you keep inflating the money supply but prevent that inflated money from driving up wages you create a situation where people have no choice but to avoid saving even if they otherwise would want to because their costs are rising faster than their wages and even a small difference in those rates of increase is going to eat up all of the discretionary income in budgets fast. Since we’re into our 3rd decade of stagnant wages combined with moderate consumer price inflation and massive monetary inflation it has reached the point where only a tiny percentage of the populace, primarily those without kids, can realistically out earn their expenses by any measurable amount.

      My wife and I have 4 kids and a combined household income north of $160,000 a year and she’s had to take a second job so we can make ends meet and more than likely we’ll both be signing up to be Uber/lyft drivers as well.

      1. OneOut

        Buy you are almost rich accordinting to the last administration.

        You should be happy to pay your fair share.

        Kulak. Wrecker !

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Quebec (well, the left-wing PQ did anyway) considers 130k ($CAD) household income to be ‘riche’.

  29. Zero Sum Game

    The Exhaustion of American Liberalism

    This one’s going to upset a lot of proggies, no doubt about it. The feeling of everything they’ve used to attack everyone else for slipping through their fingers.

    “I had to vote for Obama,” a rock-ribbed Republican said to me. “I couldn’t tell my grandson that I didn’t vote for the first black president.”

    For this man liberalism was a moral vaccine that immunized him against stigmatization. For Mr. Obama it was raw political power in the real world, enough to lift him—unknown and untested—into the presidency. But for Mrs. Clinton, liberalism was not enough. The white guilt that lifted Mr. Obama did not carry her into office—even though her opponent was soundly stigmatized as an iconic racist and sexist.

    Even a stinging rebuke for Warren in here:

    Perhaps the Obama presidency was the culmination of the age of white guilt, so that this guiltiness has entered its denouement. There are so many public moments now in which liberalism’s old weapon of stigmatization shoots blanks—Elizabeth Warren in the Senate reading a 30-year-old letter by Coretta Scott King, hoping to stop Jeff Sessions’s appointment as attorney general. There it was with deadly predictability: a white liberal stealing moral authority from a black heroine in order to stigmatize a white male as racist. When Ms. Warren was finally told to sit, there was real mortification behind her glaring eyes.

    Read the whole thing. It’s impressive.

    1. Zero Sum Game

      Weird, I didn’t get pay-walled when I first clicked the link. Here’s an archived copy in case you get hit by it.

      1. Hyperion

        If it’s like WaPo, just clear your cache and wallah! No more paywall.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          WSJ has a subscription paywall. You get around it by copying the link, going to google.com, and pasting the link in the search bar.

    2. Viking1865

      Yeah for all the bleating they do about how it’s the current year, they really don’t seem to understand that it is in fact the current year.

      It’s not 1965. It’s not 1975. It’s not 1985. It’s not 1995. It’s not 2005. It’s not even 2015 anymore. Over half the country was born and has lived their entire life post Jim Crow.

      The whole gender and racial privilege bullshit means believing that that little Billy Bob Peckerwood of Trailer Park, WV, father unknown, who’s mom has a fake disability diagnosis has some kind of advantage over Malia Obama. It’s ludicrous.

    3. Tonio

      Virginia Commonwealth University is expanding both its LGBTQ *AND* Intersectional Studies Departments. We are so fucked.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Intersectional Studies? They have that special designation now?

        I guess third wave feminism is fully embedded now.

      2. westernsloper

        What in the wide world of sports is intersectional studies? *duck duck go’s*

        1. Hyperion

          I’m going with something to make mentally and emotionally unstable people feel sort of normal and important?

          1. Hyperion

            Or maybe… it’s just a place to stick the imbeciles so as not to have to deal with them being in classes that actually require learning useful stuff?

          2. westernsloper

            Wikipedia says if you are normal but don’t really dig that, you can identify as mentally and or emotionally unstable and then be in some way discriminated against. At least that is how I understood it.

        2. Viking1865

          A way to siphon money from the productive to the unproductive. Just like 90% of what government does.

  30. DOOMco

    WHO study-

    Damn that pollution! we should all be in caves, dying at 25 like the good lord Gaia intended.

  31. DOOMco

    A bernie/warren/thechirstianleft friend of mine posted a link on how Americans only live on something like 56% of the US land.
    Looking at the map, most of this land was one thing. Any guesses?

    1. westernsloper

      Touching the ocean, and or around a big city?

      Or do you mean the land not inhabited by progs?

      1. DOOMco

        Nationwide. I couldn’t figure out if it was a post about population or immigration.

        Its almost all fed land or state land, and stuff like Alaska.

        Who could live there, the gov owns it. I cant buy it or build there.

        1. westernsloper

          You can live on fed land. You just have to move your abode every two weeks. This dude even writes a blog about it. I like to think of it as my back up plan. Not that I follow that guy. First search result.

          1. DOOMco

            Fair enough. You can camp. My friend in leadville dated a tent girl for a bit. She was a little crazy though.

          2. westernsloper

            Anyone who lives in a tent in leadville is more than crazy. Air is a bit thin there.

    2. Hyperion

      Can’t be mountains. Or desert. Or water. Or swamps. Or farm fields. Or… shit, I give up.

    3. R C Dean

      Within 20 miles of a Starbucks?

    4. DOOMco

      fed land/ and tops of mountain ranges.

      1. Hyperion

        You cheated, you never told us it could be 2 things!

        1. DOOMco

          Fed land was the correct answer, but after reading all yours, I realized it wasn’t 100% truthful.
          They also used waterways.
          It was probably Peak Stupid that day.

          1. Hyperion

            Well, I did think about federal lands but realized that it couldn’t add up to that, and neither could mountains. But you know, there is a lot of truth when people say if you think the earth is over populated, get the window seat on a plain and fly across the USA. Which I’ve done on numerous occasions. Most of it does look to be completely uninhabited. I would even say the same thing driving across it. Here in Maryland, once you’ve left Baltimore and start driving west, you soon realize that most of the state is completely empty. It’s nothing but hills and forest. You can drive for miles and miles in western Maryland and not even see a single human dwelling. All of the population is concentrated in a narrow stretch west of the bay.

          2. Ditto New York. Get north of Westchester/Rockland, and there’s a lot of low-populated areas.

          3. Viking1865

            If you put everyone in the USA inside Texas and spread them out evenly, there would be 1300 people per square mile, which is 3 times less dense then the city I live in.

            The overpopulation problem is entirely fictional.

          4. Why would people want to be in Texas?

          5. Juice

            waterways = land

          6. westernsloper

            So you were asking what land was not inhabited? I throw an ambiguity, and misleading flag! *tweet* we need a ruling.

    5. leonadasiv

      Privately owned?

      1. leonadasiv

        I think I misread the question.

        1. DOOMco

          I doubt i worded it right. It was mostly ramblings.

  32. Zero Sum Game

    Lol. Apparently Creepy Joe is allegedly still trying to live up to his name.

    Claim: Joe Biden Likes To Swim Nude in Front of Female Secret Service Agents

    1. Zero Sum Game

      Ah, I didn’t realize that this is old and should have checked in advance. Apologies.

  33. Hyperion

    Can anyone here decipher this shit?
    What is this?

    1. Zero Sum Game

      My plan is to wait until Rand Paul shits all over it. A bit lazy, but I know he’s going to do it anyway and I already respect his opinions on the topic. After that, I’ll look into it more deeply.

  34. PapayaSF

    Wow, looking at the Old Site today, only one article has more than 100 comments, and that one’s another Shikha hit-piece on Trump. (One of two today.) Sad.

    1. Juice

      All the comments seem to be the conservative, team red cheerleaders and trolls arguing with them.

    2. R C Dean

      Papaya, to really get the full Trumptweet flava, you need an exclamation point:

      Sad!

    3. Hyperion

      The comments in the 2nd Shikha piece is almost all Tony and AmSoc having a word salad orgy.

    1. leonadasiv

      Yeah the history of federal land in Utah is interesting. Utah agreed to make polygamy Constitutionally illegal in turn for statehood and eventual turn over of the lands to the state. As you can bet, ‘eventual’ became ‘f*** you’.

      1. westernsloper

        I didn’t know that. If I thought having more than one wife to be a good idea, which I don’t because I had one before and can only envision more than one to be a nightmare, I would move to Utah and take multiple wives and force it to the Supremes.

        1. leonadasiv

          It’s not prosecuted anymore, except in cases of fraud, or minors.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Utah’s call for federal land to be transferred to state control has been seen as some terrible thing. I don’t know *why*, but apparently it is.

      1. Utahans are the wrong kind of people.

        Principals, not principles.

      2. leonadasiv

        The SL Trib is a bit of a liberal rag, but in a conservative state, it isn’t usually too bad. I think they broke the corruption scandal with the AG a few years back.

      3. leonadasiv

        Also it’s obviously a bad idea, because the federal government takes care of land sooooo well.

  35. leonadasiv

    I really have to stop going to reason for now. I get so furious when I see that shikha still writes for them. And apparently to the trolls that run the place you are a Republican shill if you criticize her.

    1. Juice

      To be fair, many commenters are indeed Republican shills.

      1. R C Dean

        I think some of the shills are actually socks for the trolls.

        1. note to self – ‘logo idea-troll socks’

        2. DOOMco

          I think that’s accurate.

      2. leonadasiv

        True, but that DanO guy is infuriating.

        1. DOOMco

          careful, he knows about our glib catasses.

          1. Hyperion

            DanO is Shikha. And now there’s a poster named Cunt. Oh wait… that’s Curt, heh.

          2. DOOMco

            you think its her?
            I thought it was someone else who was white knighting a while ago. They can’t seem to understand there might be a libertarian who disagrees with her.

          3. Hyperion

            No, I was just joking. I have no idea, never saw the poster before, that I can remember. And don’t recognize the posting style. Also, Shikha doesn’t seem imaginative enough to make a sock. That they let her write there is sort of astounding to me. It has to be some token gesture of multiculturalism or social signaling of that type.

          4. DOOMco

            Idk who it is. Wouldn’t get em a beer though.

          5. “A” libertarian? More like lots of them. 😉

          6. DOOMco

            Look, ted, everyone knows I’m the only pure libertarian.

    2. Hyperion

      I typically visit at least once a day. But I’ve almost given up on posting because it’s hardly ever possible to post more than one comment without the server blowing the fuck up. They apparently don’t consider the comments important at all.

  36. Viking1865

    Reading Charles Gannon’s Caine Riordan books right now. Enjoying them.

    1. westernsloper

      In order to remove any negative energies you may be dealing with in your home please watch the video below

      I didn’t watch the video, but if that is a shot of tequila, I agree.

    2. Gilmore

      so i go to the youtube page where that video is hosted…

      ….and the #1 most common comment? is basically =

      THIS NEW AGE STUFF IS BULLSHIT = Y’ALL NEED TO GET JESUS INSTEAD

      #2 is “THIS SHIT DOESNT WORK BECAUSE THE GOVT + CORPORSHUNS PUTS SHIT IN THE WATER WAKE UP SHEEPLE #PRISONPLANET #NWO”

      I think that pretty much covers the majority of the population’s various superstitions.

      1. DOOMco

        yes.

      2. Hyperion

        Sounds like the same posters who show up to post about any type of space travel article.

  37. Hyperion

    If you think Shikha is a disingenuous loon, feast your eyes upon this treasure of jouralism:

    Trump’s travel ban will make America sicker, especially those undeserving deplorables

    1. DOOMco

      why do i click?

      1. BakedPenguin

        Always hover first, DOOMco, always hover first.

  38. “SANTA FE [NM] – Democrats in the state House on Thursday blocked Republican efforts to pass a law requiring doctors to provide medical care if an infant is born alive during an attempted abortion….

    “”Opponents of the bill said that laws and medical standards are already in place covering how to handle abortion and other procedures.

    “Dr. Sandra Penn, a physician for more than 30 years, urged the committee to avoid “political interference” in medical care.

    ““This bill would add the possibility of criminalizing a medical procedure,” she said, and inject fear into a situation “when it should not be there.””

  39. Zero Sum Game

    Hmm, Wikileaks just posted this.

    No idea what it is yet. Really vague, though.

    1. Zero Sum Game

      Ah, it’s vague on purpose. It’s that Vault 7 they’ve been teasing for a couple of weeks.

      1. It’s that Vault 7 they’ve been teasing for a couple of weeks.

        Ah; the one without medical aid/personnel.

        1. Oh please let it be Hillary election night video.

    1. Hyperion

      It’s just a good thing that the authoritah has taken that machine gun off the streets. Wouldn’t want the maniac owner to be spraying musket balls all over the place. That thing is a weapon of mass destruction.

    2. PapayaSF

      Pretty funny.