By: The Fusionist
In my discussion of the mad violinist, I mentioned an interview which Judge Roger Pryor gave to the New York Times in 1911. Now let us go back fifty years. Cue the scene-shifting special effects.
It’s early in the morning of April 12, 1861. Pryor, now only in his early 30s, is on James Island in the harbor of Charleston, South Carolina. He’s standing next to the Confederate batteries aimed at federally-occupied Fort Sumter. Guns in the James Island batteries have been ordered to start the firing on Fort Sumter. The captain commanding the battery offers Pryor the opportunity to fire the first shot.
Pryor was a perfectly logical candidate for the honor of firing the first shot in the Civil War. Born in the Petersburg, Virginia area he had become a Virginia lawyer but instead of practicing, he worked at several newspapers, where he provided an editorial voice in favor of slavery and secession. He served in the House of Representatives in the 36th Congress, from 1859 to 1861, where he used his national platform to make himself famous as a “fire-eating” Southerner. That is, he thought that if the North continued its hostility to slavery, that the South’s downright peculiar institution could no longer be safe inside the United States. Thus the Southern states would have to leave the Union and form their own country.
Pryor thought the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 was the last straw. Since his own state of Virginia wouldn’t yet commit itself to secession, Pryor came to a state which had committed itself – South Carolina, which soon was joined by other “deep South” states to form the Confederacy. Virginia still remained in the Union, a technicality which somewhat bothered Pryor, so even though he accompanied a Confederate delegation to demand the surrender of Sumter’s federal commander, Major Anderson, Pryor stayed at a distance during the actual meeting with Anderson. But the delegation, including Pryor, decided that Anderson had not offered suitable surrender terms, so war it must be.
But when offered the chance to literally start the war, Pryor held back for some reason. Another Virginian, even more fanatical than Pryor himself, was chosen to fire the first shot, this was Edmund Ruffin, an editor who had been crusading for years for more efficient agriculture…and a Southern republic.
Having helped start the war, Pryor decided he should fight in it, too. This decision, unusual for pro-war politicians today, was common among ambitious and/or patriotic statesmen on both sides of the Civil War. Pryor became one of the Confederacy’s “political generals” who made the transition from tough talk to actual battle. Like many other political generals, North and South, Pryor left something to be desired when it came to tactical skill, but there was no doubt of his bravery. He shunned none of the risks his men took, fighting courageously on the soil of his home state which had become the theater of much of the war.
Pryor’s Confederate superiors were not satisfied with his generalship, and they transferred him to Richmond where he cooled his heels as a general without portfolio. He found this unsatisfying, and so he resigned his commission. Then he did something unusual among politicians-turned-soldiers: He rejoined the ranks not as an officer but as a private.
Private Pryor was still able to show his battlefield courage without being responsible for tactical decisions which weren’t necessarily his forte. A true gentleman, he believed in fighting hard and playing hard. Just because he and the Yankee soldiers were trying to kill each other didn’t mean they couldn’t get along civilly – it was a civil war, after all. So Pryor sometimes ventured into the no-man’s land between the armies, chatting with the Northern soldiers and trading Southern papers for Northern ones so each side could keep up with the news. Pryor had been in the newspaper biz, remember.
One day, while Pryor was in no-man’s land, some unchivalrous Northerners took the opportunity to capture him – like he was an enemy or something. And he wasn’t treated like an ordinary private, because the North hadn’t forgotten his role as a leading secessionist. Pryor was brought to the prison fortress of Fort Lafayette in New York harbor.
The editor of the Cincinnati Enquirer visited Secretary of War Edwin Stanton to try and get Pryor released. Stanton had Bessie, his baby daughter, on his knee, and the Enquirer editor appealed to the Secretary’s paternal sympathies, suggesting that Pryor too had children who loved him. That sort of sentimental guff didn’t fly with Stanton. “He shall be hanged! Damn him!” Stanton said of Pryor. But President Lincoln, in these waning months of the war, agreed to release Pryor on “parole,” back to his home in Petersburg. Lincoln was apparently influenced by Pryor’s kindly treatment, back when he was a general, of Northern prisoners from Second Bull Run.
With the Confederate defeat, Pryor was in a bad position. He didn’t despair like Edmund Ruffin, who had started the war when Pryor shied away from doing so. Ruffin killed himself rather than live under Yankee rule again. Pryor didn’t go to that extreme, but he faced poverty, he and his wife having pretty much lost, or had to sell off, all their possessions during the war.
Pryor went to New York City on a visit, which changed into a permanent move. The city which the Confederates had tried to burn seemed a poor environment for him to get a friendly reception, or to get clients – for Pryor decided he would study to become a New York lawyer. In reality, though there were plenty of Gothamites embittered against the South, New York City still provided perhaps the friendliest environment in the North for ex-Confederates. With its prewar commercial ties to the South, and its status as a destination for wealthy Southern visitors, it isn’t surprising that the city had a large population of Southerners, Southern sympathizers and of “copperheads” Democrats who had opposed the Northern war effort (Teddy Roosevelt’s mother Martha, for example, was a Southerner and a Confederate sympathizer, which may explain why Teddy’s father bought himself a draft exemption rather than fight against his wife’s side).
After being admitted to the New York bar, Pryor began building his practice. He initially had to fight the prejudice against “rebels,” but he got sympathy and help from some of the former “copperheads,” as well as from other Southerners who were moving to New York City at the time. The migrants, the so-called “Confederate carpetbaggers,” found that there were more opportunities in this Southern-leaning Northern metropolis than in the war-wracked South. It also helped that most Gothamites were Democrats like Pryor, though there were plenty of elite Republicans to win over as well.
In 1868 Pryor was hit by what many white Southerners considered one of the most demeaning of the Reconstruction measures: The Fourteenth Amendment. Section Three of that amendment said that people who had held office before the war, and who then joined the Confederacy, were forbidden from holding state or federal office in the future. Within four years, Congress restored the political rights of most people covered by Section Three, but there were some exceptions. Pertinent to Pryor, people like him who had joined the Confederacy after service in the 36th Congress, the last peacetime Congress, would be denied office holding rights. This exception was aimed at fire-eating Southerners like Pryor, whose rhetoric on the House floor had exacerbated the divisions which led to the war. Supposedly all this wouldn’t make a difference to Pryor, who assured the public that he had no political ambitions and simply wanted to practice his profession, and to work – as a private citizen – for unity between North and South.
In his speeches and writings, Pryor took a more conciliatory tone than he had before the war, suggesting that the North and South should get along better. Pryor conceded that his former divisive speeches had been less than helpful. He was even able to give a let’s-be-friends speech to a suspicious audience of members of the Grand Army of the Republic – the Union veterans’ organization. His reputation was considerably improving.
Pryor was able to raise his profile among Northerners, and get in some thwacks against an old enemy of the white South, when he was retained in the famous Henry Ward Beecher/Theodore Tilton case of 1874-75. The powerful Protestant preacher Beecher had sermonized against slavery and for the Northern war effort. Now, Beecher was accused of seducing one of his parishioners – the wife of Pryor’s client Theodore Tilton. The country was fascinated by a saga of alleged adultery and even blackmail involving a top man of the cloth. The jury could not agree on a verdict, but the public’s verdict was that Pryor had displayed great professional skill.
Pryor’s new profile – as a learned lawyer-statesman who had become acclimatized to the North – became significant because one of his neighbors was Winfield Scott Hancock, a former Northern general. The wives of the two men became fast friends, and when Hancock became the Democratic nominee for President in 1880 there were rumors that Pryor might be Attorney General of the United States under a Hancock administration. Congress passed a special resolution to finally restore Pryor’s office holding rights, so the Fourteenth Amendment was no longer a problem. What was a problem was that Hancock lost the election, and so Pryor remained in private practice.
Visiting London on business in 1883, Pryor rescued a young American woman who was being attacked by hoodlums. The young lady’s name was Bessie Stanton, the grown-up edition of the baby whose father had vowed to hang Pryor.
And now we go to Chicago, at or around Haymarket Square, where on May 4, 1886, the police were trying to break up a labor demonstration. Someone lobbed a bomb at the police, and when the bomb went off it killed eleven people, seven of whom were policemen. Several anarchists, mainly German but including an Englishman, were tried for murder, supposedly for inciting and helping the killings. Several death sentences resulted, and the Illinois Supreme Court upheld the convictions. Supporters of the defendants, who believed they had been denied a fair trial, collected some money to bring the case to the U.S. Supreme Court. Top-flight attorneys were hired, Pryor being one. There was an important attorney, Benjamin Butler, brought in as well. Butler, a former Union general, wasn’t popular in the South and was regarded as a war criminal, but Pryor maintained professional relations with him.
It would be an uphill struggle to get the Supreme Court to interfere. Pryor placed his hopes in the very Fourteenth Amendment which had formerly branded him unfit to hold office. Section One of that amendment, of course, guaranteed due process of law and protected the privileges and immunities of American citizenship. So Pryor and his colleagues would argue that the trial of the anarchists had violated the Fourteenth Amendment by denying them an impartial jury, using illegally-seized evidence, and so forth. Trouble was, over the past decade the Supreme Court had interpreted the Fourteenth Amendment quite narrowly, failing to include the rights in the Bill of Rights among the privileges or immunities of American citizens (which Pryor’s clients weren’t in any case). Nor had the Supremes been very vigorous in using due process to guarantee that state trials met Bill of Rights standards.
In its decision, the Supreme Court reiterated its narrow view of the Fourteenth Amendment. But the Justices went on to say that even if a more rigorous review of the case were required, the trial would still have been fair. Of eight defendants, four were hanged, one blew himself up before he could be hanged, and three were later pardoned by governor John Peter Altgeld based on the governor’s criticism of the trial’s fairness.
As for the guilt of the defendants, historians have tended to view the trial as unfair or even as a frame-up, but historian Timothy Messer-Kruse changed his mind after reviewing the record and decided that the defendants were guilty (not to mention that at least one defendant – the one who blew himself up – had some knowledge of using bombs for deadly purposes).
Pryor defended the innocence of his clients by attributing chivalry to them: “If there were a plot in existence, do you suppose that they would have had their wives and children [at the demonstration]?”
At the end of his career Pryor got a Supreme Court (trial) judgeship through the influence of Tammany Hall, of which he was an ally. He retired but was still around to tell the New York Times that the U.S. Supreme Court (as Pryor knew too well) was not a big fan of making the states obey the Bill of Rights
Citations
Richard C. Cortner, The Supreme Court and the Second Bill of Rights: The Fourteenth Amendment and the Nationalization of Civil Liberties. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press, 1981.
Jonathan Truman Dorris, Pardon and Amnesty under Lincoln and Johnson: The Restoration of the Confederates to their Rights and Privileges, 1861-1898. Westport, Conn: Greenwood Press, 1977.
“Gen. Roger A. Pryor Dies in 91st Year,” New York Times, March 15, 1919, http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9805E6D91E39E13ABC4D52DFB5668382609EDE.
Barbara Goldsmith, Other Powers: The Age of Suffrage, Spiritualism and the Scandalous Victoria Woodhull. New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1998. [contains details of the Beecher-Tilton scandal]
Robert S. Holzman, Adapt or Perish: The Life of General Roger A. Pryor, C. S. A. Hamden, Conn: Archon, 1976.
Timothy Messer-Kruse, The Trial of the Haymarket Anarchists: Terrorism and Innocence in the Guilded Age. New York: Palgrave MacMillan, 2011.
Spies v. Illinois, 123 U.S. 131 (1887), https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/123/131/
John Strausbaugh, City of Sedition: The History of New York City During the Civil War. New York: Twelve, 2016.
Daniel E. Sutherland, The Confederate Carpetbaggers. Baton Rouge: LSU Press, 1988.
“Theodore Roosevelt’s Divided House,” Washington Times, November 13, 2008, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/13/theodore-roosevelts-divided-house/
John C., Waugh, Surviving the Confederacy: Rebellion, Ruin, and Recovery: Roger and Sara Pryor during the Civil War. New York: Harcourt 2002.
Side note: the last time I was in Charleston I visited Fort Sumter. In the museum was the original (large!) American flag that flew over the fort during the shelling. Major Anderson had kept when he surrendered. He held on to until he was able to return and have it hoisted over the fort again.
I was going to take that tour when I was in Charleston but just didn’t have the time. Wonder how much longer they’ll have that big-ass Confederate battle flag flying over it.
Where the Haymarket Square now stands there is a statue to the labor anarchists that spoke there, surrounded by some of the douchiest bars in Chicago. It always amazed me how the richest people in urban centers are now also the most left-wing, while the working-class in these same cities are now the most right-wing. As a side note, I’ve begun re-reading ‘Radical Chic’ by Tom Wolfe.
I’ve come to the conclusion that Eddie won the lottery or is a trust-fund baby.
Either way, nice work.
I have a lot of notes from an abortive research project – I simply had to freshen the notes up a bit, adapt them to the, ah, special qualities of this audience, and it’s all ready to go.
We are special.
Each in your own way.
I would think you’d at least bring it to term and put it up for adoption.
Oh you little devil you.
abortive research project
*edges toward exit*
I didn’t actually see that one coming.
I know this is just partisan sniping, but the irony is just too rich =
“March For Science” Protest-Organizers Forced To Apologize for Calling Women “Females”
insert obligatory “who are you who is so wise…”
Surely ‘Science’ will be saved by the people who can’t even make references to biological terms without being poltically-chastized
Imma gonna go do me some engineering.
On a related note, I heard that they are having trouble finding a bunch of researchers in the ‘hard sciences’ to attend.
Really? You mean people doing serious work in the hard sciences don’t want to be around a gang of shrieking imbeciles? I have no idea why.
‘hard sciences’
Are you referring to an erection? If so, I am triggered.
You should convert your van to a safe space, paint a snowflake on the side and write ‘coloring books and puppies inside’. Then have some glibetarians running around on the street triggering the snowflakes. Can’t fail business model.
How do you parody this?
That’s the beauty of it you dont have to, just quote
True, they are a parody of themselves, there’s nothing to do but laugh.
As per claims made by ZSG in the recent past, i think there is reason to suspect that some of these “Allies” are actually just trolls
The idea of simply taking the batshit-logic of the SJW-left, and applying it to EVERYTHING in equal degrees of outrage is a guaranteed recipe for internecine-conflict. So = basically, use the same lingo as the left, and point the fingers at everything they do as *not Woke Enough”
I think it works because there is no such thing as Reductio Ad Absurdum when it comes to lefty-politics. You are simply not allowed to laugh at each other.
Every couple of days i brows the latest on the realpeerreview twitter and whenever I think I’ve seen em all…
Can someone identify for me what colonies exist in the world today?
Puerto Rico?
In a gas station restroom?
From some Frog Gov’t site:
They can’t help it. They freaking love science.
10 years in the future, NASA Space Center
Rocket Scientist: And the plans are now complete, here’s the new design.
Disgruntled feminist hired to fill the quota: I don’t like it! It looks like a giant penis! It’s offensive to women! shriek shriek shriek!!! Here’s the design that I want!
Rocket Scientist: That won’t fly, you know nothing about rockets.
Disgruntled feminist: Shriek shriek shriek!!! Body shaming! Patriarchy!
NASA Administrator: Do it her way, inclusiveness and never offending anyone, ever, is our primary mission.
Excuse me, but the clame a giant penis is offensive to women excludes or others women who have a big penis. Please be more careful.
Every time I see a rainbow, now, I pray to God and ask, “Are you sure?
Yeah, flood is out. Now SMOD is a different story…
Phallic shaped rockets are a tool of the patriarchy. Gravity is misogynistic.
It looks like a giant penis! It’s offensive to women!
Umm, maybe not all women . . . .
Penis-shaped church in Iceland:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallgr%C3%ADmskirkja#/media/File:Reykjavik%27s-church.jpg
This is what happens when you get an entire island nation full of white people.
You joke, but I had that exact argument with a feminist in university. She was convinced the only reason they build rockets that way was to ‘promote their masculinity’.
Yes, she was unaware of the concept of aerodynamics.
Just tell her that there’s no sexism involved, it’s just the natural shape you use if you want to penetrate the secrets of the universe.
I actually volunteered to go to a wind tunnel with her and see which of our genitalia proved to be the better design for aircraft.
She did not take me up on it.
“Female” as a noun *is* a derogatory term. No one normal says female when they mean woman, unless it’s an insult.
But “woman” has become non-PC for some reason. That’s probably why the tweet used “female”, because these “scientists” are cowards, and leftists themselves.
Yeah, the cowards part is supported by some pretty strong evidence there.
E = MUH FEELZ!
And by “Normal”, you mean, “someone hyper-obsessed with the most idiotic miniscule terms-of-offense du jour”
There is absolutely nothing ‘derogatory’ about the term ‘Female’, and anyone suggesting otherwise is a fucking idiot.
I dunno. Let’s see here:
“Make me a sammich now, woman!”
“Make me a sammich now, female!”
Hmm, you’re right, I can’t tell any difference there.
Yeah. Next time you’re sitting at a bar and see a group of the opposite sex, you’re gonna say to your buddies , “Look at those females over there.”
Simply because a term is clinical and a reference to a biological quality rather than terms specific to a species does not make it “derogatory”
Your argument is “because people don’t usually talk this way colloquially… its therefore inherently offensive“? Really?
The “appeal to normality” would be cute if you didn’t actually seem serious about it.
Of course you don’t say that. You say one of the following:
Hey guys, look at that tail over there!
Hey guys, look at that poontang over there!
Hey guys, look at that ass over there!
“I’d tap all of that. Except the fat one. John can have her.”
“Listen you hep cats, check out the gams on those dames”
It’s a convention. Appeal to normality isn’t always a fallacy. I can’t speak for Brits or Aussies, but Americans use “female” as a noun when they’re referring to animals or in technical settings. No one with half a brain would write “Are you a female who thought about doing engineering but decided against it?” rather than “Are you a woman who thought about doing engineering but decided against it?”
I’m not offended by it on anyone’s behalf. I’m just pointing out that it’s abnormal, and they probably used it because they have some sort PC objection to the word “woman”.
and then making the conceptual leap from “uncommon” to “offensive”
“”i realize your claim is patently obvious, but i need to be obtuse so i can continue insisting that my arbitrary definition of “normal” (as asserted by the likes of Jezebel et al) is entirely apropos. I will now sigh and act like you’re the one who started this shit by insisting there was a problem, rather than me”
I’ll give you the benefit of doubt. Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. I didn’t mean it was offensive here. I meant that it’s commonly used offensively (because it’s conventially reserved for animals), therefore it was out of place in the tweet.
In fact, Oman-Regean’s tweet:
could pass for a joke if he had ended after the first sentence.
That’s actually not necessary. Instead you could recognize that what you are saying makes no fucking sense and you don’t have a leg to stand on.
I’m confused by your stubborness. Oh well.
“”i realize your claim is patently obvious, but i need to be obtuse so i can continue insisting that my arbitrary definition of “normal” (as asserted by the likes of Jezebel et al) is entirely apropos. I will now sigh and act like you’re the one who started this shit by insisting there was a problem, rather than me”
(looks up a few inches on the screen)
“”Maybe i wasn’t clear enough.”‘= “”Let me change my claim for convenience”
You’re conveniently leaving out what else I wrote: “Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. I didn’t mean it was offensive here.”
And that’s after you conveniently left out what I originally wrote: “But “woman” has become non-PC for some reason. That’s probably why the tweet used “female”, because these “scientists” are cowards, and leftists themselves.”
Maybe I used too much punctuation and capitalization?
If you made any sense the first time…. you wouldn’t be down here still trying to explain why “Female” is actually indeed an inherently derogatory term.
I’ll take that as an apology.
Quick vote =
Idiot, or Mary?
wait, that’s redundant
Quick vote =
“Normal idiot” or “Mary-Idiot”?
Normal idiot. But only because I wasn’t around for Mary, so I don’t have enough to go on.
fair enough
Uh, lighten up, Gilmore. You sound like John…and that is not something we want or need.
Well, I’ll just leave this right here. I write software that is used in a research setting and on some of the web forms, there are actually check boxes with male and female as a category. And it’s used in relation to human subjects research, so it’s not talking about gerbils.
That’s the trick about actual clinical reality. Nobody gives a fuck what you identify as, because biological facts are what matters when you are treating someone for something.
We are in a real bind right now at the hospital. We have to write clinical policies that recognize biological reality, and other policies that “respect” what people “identify as”. Its a fucking nightmare. Example: we have give certain warnings and take certain precautions with females when doing anything involving radiation. Now, if we get somebody who only identifies as female, should they get the warnings and the precautions? Or, worse, what if they only identify as male? In either situation, the warnings, etc. are likely to be triggering, no?
“We are in a real bind right now at the hospital. We have to write clinical policies that recognize biological reality, and other policies that “respect” what people “identify as”.”
Sounds like something out of the draft of a dystopian novel…a novel the publisher turned down as too implausible.
If you are in the military you are likely to say exactly that. My wife is active duty Army and refers to other woman as a group as females. Ive heard many groups of men do the same.
I use the term “she-human”.
“Unpenised”
“Penis-impaired”
Penis challenged. Is that an outie?
Differently penised
“Penis-capable”?
Ooooh, maybe we’ll learn more about the feminism of glaciers.
It’s depending on how you pronounce it. If you say it like ‘glah-cee-ur’ instead of ‘glay-sure’, like a Eurotard, then you need to fall into a ‘creh-vaas’ and never be seen again.
Glah-see-yay, duh
Like Perrier
“Science is strong when we listen to each other, and make space for our many voices. We’re in this for the long haul.”
*holds cannonball over railing of Tower of Pisa*
“The votes are all in and tallied, and the consensus is the cannonball will not fall to earth, but will float. Who is going to go down there and stand on the big “X” painted on the sidewalk right below me?”
Good article, Eddie.
Nice. Just a heads up: the pictures screwed up the formatting on the mobile. Just becomes one long horizontal string of one or two letters.