Tuesday Afternoon Links

Some fun and exciting times around the Internets today.

First, our commentariat is having a lot of fun in the logo contest that ends a week from tomorrow. We have now seen ALL of the permutations of a certain other brand’s logo and letterhead. And laughed at each one. Now come up with something we can use or Sloopy wins by default. And not even Sloopy wants that.

Sloopy and perhaps others will have some in depth coverage, but in case the Afternoon Links is your first stop after slithering out from under your rock, Wikileaks has reopened the war on the US Intelligence Community and they don’t seem to be losing. Nor does freedom seem to be winning. The Russian hacking of Hillary’s emails just became “Russian” hacking.

Not to worry, though. If you already have an opinion, chances are the facts won’t change your mind.

Per standard operating procedure, NOAA has responded to possible budget cuts by claiming that everyone will die if they receive even one dollar fewer.

Kuato don’t surf! Scientists have a plan to bring oceans back to Mars.

“How many Presidents were in the KKK?” Google to fix wrong results to their “one true answer” feature. After correctly identifying President Woodrow Wilson as a racist, Google is backpedaling.

In which Ezra Klein of Vox and I agree on something. The absolute shittiness of the GOP Obamacare-Lite bill, which seems to have been written by the various states’ Bureaus of Insurance Regulation to keep said agencies in business.

 

The ultimate tag-team.

Comments

304 responses to “Tuesday Afternoon Links”

  1. Not to worry, though. If you already have an opinion, chances are the facts won’t change your mind.

    I see no need to click that link.

    1. grrizzly

      Conveniently, you cannot.

      1. Brett L

        Works for me.

        1. grrizzly

          I guess too many people clicked on your link, the new yorker page was down for a minute.

        2. waffles

          I’ve preformed an opinion that the link will not work and therefore do not feel compelled to click it.

      2. What?!?

        *clicks the link repeatedly*

    2. Jimbo

      Gt

      From the Paper of Record: A comment from one of the few sane people there:

      Richard Slaughter Seattle 4 hours ago
      You people find out that the United States government, via the CIA, is *spying on its own people* using covert hacks of televisions, smart phones, etc.

      And the majority of responses immediately begin ignoring that and instead blaming Russia for *telling you* (which they may or may not have done; nothing indicates either way at this point).

      If ever there was a single statement that demonstrated just how badly the American people are failing in their responsibility to hold their government accountable, this is it. Bravo, deflectors, bravo.

      1. Chipwooder

        Hmmm….that sounds just like what I’d expect a Russian troll to say!!!

        1. commodious spittoon

          Chipwooder, eh? That sounds a little Slavic, comrade.

      2. waffles

        Most of the comments are foaming at the mouth about Russian collusion with the new administration. This is what people really believe? I mean if it could be proven I will eat crow. I like eating crow.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I’ll get the hot sauce.

      3. grrizzly

        The same people didn’t care about holding their party accountable after the DNC leaks. Nothing changed here.

    3. CZmacure

      The thing I never understand about these studies about cognitive blindspots and stuff is this :

      My analytic process focused on and results in testable hypothesis. The analytic process of “most people” does not seem to feature testable hypotheses.

      How can I be wrong that my process outperforms theirs, if the goal is to be “right” by producing testable hypotheses that test out correctly?

      My arguments are observably more testable than theirs. They’re usually too stupid to realize that, but that’s different from us both blindly believing in exactly the same way.

  2. I can’t figure out how to add a photo/image, but I saw one that shows an elephant standing inside Mt. Doom, holding a ring that says “Obamacare” over the chasm.

    1. Brett L

      Can you find one of them trying to hump a doorknob or lick the windows on the schoolbus?

      also [img src=”urlhere” /] replace square with pointy bracket.

    2. Bobarian LMD

      Next frame… The elephant has the ring resized to slip over his cock and used to better fuck unsuspecting tax payers, while high-fiving a jack-ass?

      1. SimonD

        wow, that is not only scary, it is horrifyingly accurate.

        1. The Last American Hero

          It is, but I can’t figure out how Anthony Weiner can bring about the fall of Obamacare the way he played Gollum to Hillary’s Sauron in the election. I guess somebody else is going to have to step up and cause a eucatastrophe this time.

      2. *stares in wonder*

      3. R C Dean

        “Resized”?

  3. Private Chipperbot

    How the mighty have fallen. HnR runs another SD immigration laws=slavery story instead of anything about the Wikileaks dump.

    1. DOOMco

      It’s too local.

    2. Playa Manhattan

      sd;dr

      1. Bobarian LMD

        So dumb; Don’t read?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I accept your interpretation.

    3. Just Say’n

      “Honest condemnation of the fugitive slave law must also condemn the slaves who escape to northern states. What’s the point except upsetting the delicate balance of the Compromise of 1850?”
      – Shikha, 1863

      1. PBRstreetgang

        Nice.

    4. Juice

      Ok, comparing deportations to slavery is, uh, not the best comparison and doesn’t help the argument, but jesus most of the comments are all Team Red shills crowing “what’s so immoral about deporting people, huh?”

      1. grrizzly

        Deporting people who entered or stayed in the country illegally is as immoral as sending criminals to prison. It is not.

        1. Juice

          Lock all the dope smokers up. grrizzly sez it’s da law

          1. grrizzly

            I have no interest in being a “pure” libertarian. While I happen to think that there’s nothing wrong with selling heroin to high school kids, the “open borders” utopia is just going too far.

          2. Ayn Random Variation

            I was hoping the strawman feelz type arguments re: immigration were left to the other site.

      2. John Titor

        If you’re going to make an argument that illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the country, make that argument. Don’t draw some shitty moral equivalency/smear job with slavery under some pretext of ‘rule of law’.

        “Rioters that lynch people shouldn’t be prosecuted, rule of law is nonsense because slavery.”

        1. Juice

          Hmm. Interesting takes from both of you. I guess every “libertarian” has their blind spots. It’s true that immigration was one of my last blind spots (along with guns) before I finally “got” non-agression.

          I already said that comparing deportations to slavery was a over the top and doesn’t help the argument, but are you seriously saying that you are a libertarian and believe that the state should use force upon and threaten violence against people who are moving to a new place to live and work?

          1. DOOMco

            I think libertarians can disagree on the question of does the gov have the right to pick who comes in.
            I think most are in favor of more immigration, with fewer hurdles. The Gov might not have that as a power, but they sure seem to have it right now.

          2. Lafe Long

            I think most are in favor of more immigration, with fewer hurdles.

            This doesn’t get mentioned enough. In a lot of cases (most?) it takes YEARS to do it legally. There’s not a lot of incentive to bother.
            It should take an afternoon.
            Addressing the severely broken system would solve a lot of problems.

          3. Mike Schmidt

            Hey everyone! Here is the one, true libertarian. He’ll tell you what your blind spots are! And once you get rid of your Juice-defined blind spots, you’ll be able to stop being a “libertarian” and become an actual Juice-approved libertarian!

          4. The Elite Elite

            Hey, you take that back! Mike Hihn is the One True Libertarian!

          5. John Titor

            I don’t think the libertarian question on ‘open borders’ is settled, and is likely not feasible, at least in the current arrangement of nation states. The ‘every piece of land should be private, and thus, I have a right to say who crosses my property’ argument has merit, but of course we live in a world where the border is effectively ‘public property’.

            If it’s public land, the citizenry gets a say in who gets to come here. The current law indicates, whether good or bad, that these people are not here with the citizenry’s permission.

            I also have a more general pragmatic approach that the end result of this is millions of Mexicans living a basic poverty in the United States while Mexico remains a shithole because the government continues to export their discontent to the United States and refuses to reform or improve. That is not a good outcome for anyone.

          6. John Titor

            For the record, I am in favour of a simplified immigration process, and possibly a points system (until the welfare state is gone). I’d rather be addressing the problems that are causing the migration than simply double down on the problem, which is what tolerating illegal immigration or granting amnesty will cause.

            The reality of the situation is that Mexico is effectively a failed state that is continuing to pump its discontented masses into the United States. And that could have some bad results in the long run. Aztlan bad.

          7. DenverJ

            Aztlan bad.What’s magic Jesus-lion have to do with it?

          8. DenverJ

            The wrong slash 🙁

          9. JaimeRoberto

            It seems to me that when immigrants demand that I pay to support them by way of my taxes, the non-aggression principle has been violated.

            That said, I’m ok with making legal immigration easier, especially if we enforce the part of the deal where the immigrant won’t go on welfare.

      3. R C Dean

        If you don’t think anyone who is here illegally should ever be deported, then I think you probably want “pure” open borders.

        There’s a completely different issue, which some people may or may not be purposely eliding, which is that (a) we should deport people who break our immigration laws, but (b) holy shit, do we ever need to reform our immigration laws.

        The position that we should not enforce our laws until they are reformed is a difficult one to reconcile with any support for the rule of law. And I say that even knowing that there are many, many laws that I wish were reformed, and don’t like seeing enforced in their current form.

    5. Lafe Long

      How the mighty have fallen. HnR runs another SD immigration laws=slavery story instead of anything about the Wikileaks dump.

      My boy Eddie Kray is on the job.

  4. Zero Sum Game

    Student union bans Conservative society from speaking out – because they challenged its position on free speech

    Hull University Conservative Association also claimed that Lincoln Students’ Union had defended the decision on the grounds that, by highlighting that the university was deemed to “very intolerant” of free speech, the society had brought its reputation “into disrepute”.

    “Just to reiterate the irony of this situation – their student union upon being criticised for being anti-free speech have silenced those complaining about a lack of free speech,” they added.

    Proggies are as proggies do. Telling the truth about the organization brings it into disrepute rather than the disreputable behavior that was called out.

    1. Wait, this is the Lincoln in England.

      I didn’t know they admired Old Abe so much as to name a university after him. /jk

    2. Gilmore

      Testing

    3. DenverJ

      Yeah, like the DNC emails being linked: it wasn’t the fact that the Dems were colluding with the press, or that they were conspiring against Bernie Sanders: no the scandal is that somebody leaked the emails to the public.
      “Hey! I told you about me murdering that hooker in confidence! In confidence!

  5. Glitterstorm

    I really don’t like that picture
    Hi CIA!! How are you!? It’s been so long since you’ve invaded my privacy. Did you see that dick pic I sent?

  6. Like that?

    Edit for IMG tag4

      1. Huh. Let me try again.

        1. Brett L

          If you view source on your comment you’ll see it. you need one of these”<" at the start and one of these ">” at the end

      2. DOOMco

        no?

        1. Okay, I’ll quit.

          1. DOOMco

            aww.
            *opens arms for hug*

    1. DOOMco

      woohoo

      1. The HTML fairies swooped in and fixed it for me.

        Now, if I don’t guess their names in three days, they take my new Microsoft Surface Book.

        1. I suck at image work, so twas not me.

    2. Jimbo

      That is scarily accurate.

    3. Someone on twitter also had this bit of hilariousness to say about it.

      1. BakedPenguin

        That’s good. The Republicans make good noises as an opposition party. As the ruling party…

        1. There’s a reason they’re the stupid party.

    4. Trigger Hippie

      [golf clap]

    5. R C Dean

      The great thing is, the Repubs are playing the role of Frodo perfectly. Frodo also failed to destroy the one ring, when the moment came.

      So, my question is, who is Gollum in this scenario? Or are we doomed to live under the rule of Frodo the Great and Terrible, Wielder of the One Ring?

  7. Chipwooder

    I see Shikha is doubling down on comparing illegal immigration to slavery. I’m nonplussed….is that the right word?

    1. Private Chipperbot

      I guess there was nothing else newsworthy today.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      They’ve sure have put her front and center haven’t they? I’m starting to believe they are consciously trying to run that place into a ditch for some reason.

      1. Trolleric the Goth

        yeah, they have to understand the commentariat exodus was driven in large part by Shikha’s statist proggy bullshit, maybe that’s what they want?

        1. R C Dean

          Seeing as our exodus coincided with/resulted in a collapse in their traffic, I wonder if they’ve really thought this through.

      2. DOOMco

        idk what the fuck they are doing. I almost called the foundation the other day to ask and complain.

        1. John Titor

          I think Gilmore’s got a point when he points out that Gillespie went full nuts on the ‘libertarians are the vanguard of the Trump Resistance’. It seems like that’s the editorial direction they’ve taken, go full insane, in-line-with-progressives attack against the Trump Administration regardless of if it obliterates their credibility or not. That’s not to say there isn’t obvious libertarian criticisms of Trump, but I think they’re really driven by this idea that being the ‘vanguard’ will attract more people to libertarianism, instead of just resulting in them becoming the bottom rung of the prog hierarchy.

          1. DOOMco

            We’re soo cool and edgy! Look at us! RESIST! Isn’t that cool?! millennial jargon! We have the twitter!

            I get it, L’s are always going up against the man. But usually, we do that from some principle or value.

          2. Zero Sum Game

            Vanguard = cannon fodder is a reasonable interpretation.

          3. R C Dean

            Or maybe we’re doing a crypto-Marxist thing here, where the “vanguard” of the resistance/revolution plays the role of the guys in the back of the mob, telling the stupid proles to go ahead and charge the soldiers.

          4. Stinky Wizzleteats

            The problem is libertarians won’t even get a rung. The left hates us as much as they hate the other righties but we’re just not important enough for them to go after. I think your analysis of their thinking is right BTW.

          5. John Titor

            he left hates us as much as they hate the other righties but we’re just not important enough for them to go after.

            They’ll bend left to accommodate them if there’s some major schism in the libertarian identity as a whole. So expect some ‘social justice has noble goals, but their process is wrong’ Bleeding Heart Libertarian arguments and a greater tolerance of the welfare state. Basically Bill Maher ‘civil libertarians’, i.e. not libertarians.

          6. DOOMco

            ok, like- weed is ok. I mean, we have to tax it, right. but no other drugs. Those are bad. And we really won’t argue about changing the tax code, but maybe we could cut some stuff out of the budget. Like stuff about the pot. and maybe the military? But, like, you know, we just want to leave people alone, man.

          7. Gilmore

            go full insane, in-line-with-progressives attack against the Trump Administration regardless of if it obliterates their credibility or not.

            I don’t think that’s exactly it.

            I think its more “parallel with progressive” rather than echoing their complaints.

            The idea being, “Lets show those people in the middle (who hate trump) that we feel their pain! but we have a different (and better) argument why you should hate him”

            Meaning – “you already hate trump! we hate trump too! (for different reasons) Therefore, you should take our reasons seriously.”

            And i don’t think its at all expected to diminish credibility (lets be honest = we’re starting from a base of “0” with many), as much as is it a hope that by jumping on the bandwagon of Trump-Frothing, that they will pick up a lot of stragglers from the #NeverTrump and Bernie-voting crowds.

            If its not clear, i don’t think its going to even remotely work as intended. And I don’t even know if that’s what’s intended. But that’s the most-reasonable interpretation i’ve been able to muster for what seems to be the editorial-tack since ~ last summer or thereabouts.

          8. PapayaSF

            It’s possible, but it seems idiotic. Libertarians can never outdo the left when it comes to hatred of Trump or any Republican, so why even try? As I keep saying, better to support Trump on his pro-liberty sides (cutting regulations, lowering taxes, generally draining the swamp).

            Surely Nick has noticed the commenter exodus. I owner what he thinks of it?

            And while I hate to consider this sort of explanation, Reason does get money from the Koch brothers, and the Kochs are very pro-immigration.

          9. DenverJ

            Has anyone asked any of the staff if:
            A. They are aware of the exodus?
            B. Do they understand the reasons (drink!) behind the exodus, and
            C. What do they think of it?

            Reason is a non profit, I think, but they definitely sell advertising, and the value of the advertising depends on the page views, how long people stay on the page, etc.

          10. Tonio

            +1 Lowest Rung of Prog Hierarchy

      3. Zero Sum Game

        Nobody noticed that the instant the Kochs came out against the immigration EO, Shikha was marched to the forefront? Who cares if she’s not really a libertarian and actually hates free speech because she hates the people who might use it? Gotta keep that cash flow.

        1. Just Say’n

          Rothbard was right about the Kochs?

        2. bacon-magic

          Shiva the Kocktamanibus?

          1. Jimbo

            Wow, I bet she gives excellent hand(s) jobs!

          2. bacon-magic

            She’s really the hands on type. I expect her at any moment to don the black ski mask and re-join the antifa.

          3. bacon-magic

            *the /need a hand over here edit fairy(waves mystically)

      4. Ayn Random Variation

        They made a conscious decision about 2 years ago to purge themselves of the yokelatarians. But they went to far with the gay cakes, TDS, and with the non support of milo.

    3. Just Say’n

      No false equivalencies there. Definitely something a sane person would say

    4. bacon-magic

      You are a slaver, Shikha the Enlightened has spoken.

      1. Of course we’re slavers. What do you think our orphans are?

        1. I pay my orphans with valuable life lessons.

          1. bacon-magic

            *trips orphan laden with platter of bacon(no bacon abuse!) cheese curds*
            Lesson #7 from the vault: “A quick orphan is a happy orphan”.

          2. Ooh!

            Good one!

            *begins writing in notebook*

        2. John Titor

          The politically correct term is indentured servants, Ted.

  8. Creosote Achilles

    Ezra Klein has the kind of voice that makes me want to use his own vocal cords to strangle him. But yes, he is correct about the GOPCare being a pile of stinking poo. Why not use the plan that was touted back during the debate of the ACA? Decouple insurance from work, make insurance available across state lines, make catastrophic policies available, and allow deductions for premiums and deductibles?

    Also, hello! I lurked on Reason for many years but commented maybe twice. I’ve decided to de-lurk and participate.

    1. Private Chipperbot

      It’s a trap!

    2. Chipwooder

      Welcome Mr. Creosote. Would you care for a wafer-thin mint?

      1. Creosote Achilles

        Is that a euphemism? I mean, it won’t change my answer, which is still yes.

        1. Sour Kraut

          Looks like you need to get him another bucket, Chipwooder.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        He’s gonna smoke you.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Rand floated a version of that plan back in January. It was met with the sound of crickets.

      1. Creosote Achilles

        It’s almost like there’s no real difference between the Evil Party and the Stupid party.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          The Evil Party wants to run your life in every minute detail. The Stupid Party doesn’t really want to run your life (outside of your personal decisions involving drugs and sex), they just want to get re-elected at any cost.

  9. westernsloper

    The absolute shittiness of the GOP Obamacare-Lite bill, which seems to have been written by the various states’ Bureaus of Insurance Regulation to keep said agencies in business.

    Sounds about right.

    1. Chipwooder

      And this is about the point at which the laughing at dumb progs’ hysteria over Trump ceases to be amusing.

      1. bacon-magic

        This place is infested with vocal lurkers. I blame Old Man With Candy.

        1. PieInTheSKy

          Lurker lives matter!

        2. Bobarian LMD

          OMWC doesn’t care about lurkers, he’s just here to provide day-care.

          1. bacon-magic

            How sweet. He loves the children.

          2. DOOMco

            My username is LittleKidLover.
            / M. Scott

  10. Haybob

    He may be a flaming liberal but he is pretty damn funny. I find this quote appropriate for today’s news.

    “If my car has ever been bugged they have never taken that microphone out. I am the CIA’s Christmas party every year.”

    Patton Oswalt

  11. Trigger Hippie

    For shits and giggles, I’ve been clicking on several avatars and searching Google for the context of the image. I’ve rather enjoyed learning about a few new historical figures, art, and cult icons(mine is a sly jab at the other place) but my favorite was sloopy’s.

    Google’s best guess for his 160×160 image in the comment section: pencil

    1. Google found where else I use my image as an avatar.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Wow! The face of a franchise! Congrats!

    2. bacon-magic

      Mine is artsy fartsy.

      1. DOOMco

        Yours just makes me hungry.

        1. bacon-magic

          Me too, I keep pork cracklin’s in my office desk.

          1. DOOMco

            I should have bought those instead of these doritos.
            Maybe I’ll make chocolate chip cookies later.

    3. DOOMco

      mine might even bring up my flickr.

    4. grrizzly

      Best guess for this image: animal

    5. How does one do that?

      1. Tundra

        right click – search Google for image.

        1. I assume you’re using Chrome?

          1. Tundra

            Yup. Different for FF?

        2. Ah, I don’t have that option, must have to have google set as default search.

          1. DOOMco

            you could copy the image, then drag it to the google search.

        3. I use “right click — Ask Cortana”

          It doesn’t really give any information, but when I clicked on Gilmore’s avatar, it returned: “Best Guess: Elvis Trump”

          1. Gilmore

            “Elvis Trump” is actually a reasonable description

          2. NOT a Naked Intruder

            As soon as his face was on screen, I wanted to see Anthony Hopkins portray him.

            In the caped outfit.

      2. Mike Schmidt

        Install the Tin Eye addon

    6. BakedPenguin

      Mine makes me feel like a hypocrite for not using Linux. Or smoking pot.

      1. westernsloper

        Or smoking pot.

        I thought your name was a reference to that activity. So you really just eat baked penguins? Recipe?

        1. BakedPenguin

          Used to. Now it only makes me anxious.

          1. bacon-magic

            Penguins wrapped in bacon with a demi-glace sauce. MMMMhmmmm. Pothead confirmation right there.

    7. Old Man With Candy

      Whatever you do, don’t search mine.

    8. John Titor

      I’m going with “Best waifu” for me.

    9. Emmerson Biggins

      Ha! Mine is totally secure.

  12. Just Say’n

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-06/what-trump-should-have-tweeted-about-obama-and-eavesdropping

    Eli Lake has a good take on Trump’s crazy tweet about having his phones tapped

    1. Chipwooder

      Yeah, about that column….

      It’s also significant here that according to the last director of national intelligence, James Clapper, there was no Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant to monitor Trump or his campaign. Surely, if the U.S. intelligence agencies had real evidence that Trump’s associates were collaborating with Russian spies, they would have gone to the FISA court.

      James Clapper is an admitted liar. No reputable journalist should ever cite his comments.

      1. Just Say’n

        Good point.

        How about the Glenn Reynolds article, then (no Clapper quote used)

        http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/03/06/obama-spying-trump-fisa-tapping-glenn-reynolds-column/98779170/

      2. Emmerson Biggins

        Ya, the fact they they trotted him out to say this actually increases the probability that Trump’s phones were tapped.

  13. Per standard operating procedure, NOAA has responded to possible budget cuts by claiming that everyone will die if they receive even one dollar fewer.

    Who else votes to sentence all the NOAA employees to death?

    1. Jimbo

      I’m in.

    2. DesigNate

      How about hard labor for however many years they worked at the NOAA?

  14. Gilmore

    If you already have an opinion, chances are the facts won’t change your mind.

    So i read that piece, and the “Science” (psychology experiments) doesn’t actually seem to demonstrate what they think it does.

    all it demonstrates is that the short-term effects of impressions. It doesn’t show that people “don’t change their minds based on facts”

    mainly because both studies simply discount (neutralize) the first set of facts, rather than present a second, different set of facts which they asserted were the valid ones.

    It shouldn’t be surprising that the first impressions linger in the absence of new information – even if they are subsequently told “it means nothing”. Being told to discount something isn’t a measure of “Reason”, per se. Its telling someone – sans any substantive argument – to simply ‘stop thinking about what we just told you’. Which other research has shown tends to have the opposite effect (e.g. “DONT THINK OF AN ELEPHANT”)

    1. The researchers were later informed that they were, in fact, the subjects of a research project, in which their research methods were observed by the supposed test subjects.

    2. PieInTheSKy

      Even those results I wonder how reproducible they are, that certain science being what it is.

      I am not gonna claim I know for sure how I change my mind when presented with facts, but actual fact can be few and far in between in the most situations where people are hard to convince…

    3. Gilmore

      **I actually agree with the basic idea of the piece, and the arguments made by the psychologists that most of what we call “Reason” in practical day-to-day engagement is just adaptation to group-dynamics

      However, it appears to me as though the author seems to think that ‘demonstrating the social-role of Reason’ (in the context of social-experiments) somehow also makes a point about “Pure Reason” (e.g. when exercised outside of social-engagements or group-experiments)

      eg. …. as though simply because people demonstrate strong preferences for their own expressed ideas in social-contexts…. that they are incapable of digesting/measuring reasoned arguments ‘on paper’, divorced from any particular social-benefit

      meaning = even though these experiments repeatedly show that people resist changing their minds when given binary choices…. they don’t really ever try to evaluate ‘reasonableness’;

      imagine, for instance, if someone were given a choice between 5 different arguments, and told to rank them based on how well-reasoned they were, regardless of what they argued on behalf of. That would seem to be a less-loaded way of measuring someone’s ability to distinguish a good-argument from a bad one, regardless of whether it were close to their own beliefs.

      all that aside…. here was the to-be-expected closing paragraph of the piece =

      “The Enigma of Reason,” “The Knowledge Illusion,” and “Denying to the Grave” were all written before the November election. And yet they anticipate Kellyanne Conway and the rise of “alternative facts.” These days, it can feel as if the entire country has been given over to a vast psychological experiment being run either by no one or by Steve Bannon. Rational agents would be able to think their way to a solution. But, on this matter, the literature is not reassuring. ♦

    4. Microaggressor

      I read it too, but could have done without the earful of proggie smug about Obamacare and guns. It made it painfully obvious how the author is incapable of examining her own biases.

      This one sticks out:

      There must be some way, they maintain, to convince people that vaccines are good for kids, and handguns are dangerous. (Another widespread but statistically insupportable belief they’d like to discredit is that owning a gun makes you safer.) But here they encounter the very problems they have enumerated. Providing people with accurate information doesn’t seem to help; they simply discount it.

      The author is convinced that the facts are on her side, and you’re just an idiot redneck for wanting to have guns.

      It couldn’t possibly be that, lumping an individual who knows how to secure their weapons into a statistical pool of people who leave them laying around children is supposed to convince them that they’d be safer throwing it off a cliff. She’s got the “accurate information” (statistics), and you choose do discount the “accurate information” at your peril. That it could be not-so-accurate information to better behaved individuals doesn’t cross her mind. Facts are facts, you ignoramus.

    5. From the article: “Humans’ biggest advantage over other species is our ability to coöperate.

      Is there any other species that practices mass-extermination of its own kind?

      What about ants? They seem to cooperate to a good degree.
      Wolves, Geese, Bees…

  15. Jefe Hayek

    Hulk Hogan doesn’t spawn. He will survive forever by jobbing out younger and better wrestlers.

    1. bacon-magic

      Film at 11 on Gawker some new fake news site. Probably CNN, they seem to be picking up the mantle.

    2. Bobarian LMD

      He will survive forever by jobbing out younger and better wrestlers friend’s wives and suing the websites that run the films.

      1. BakedPenguin

        Hey, he got rid of Gawker. Anyone who cares about the Internet owes him a debt of thanks.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Long may he reign/rein/rain!

          1. bacon-magic

            Yeah, brother!

  16. Gilmore

    I continue to believe Rhode Island is a place someone just made-up as a joke

    example =
    All of their lawmakers are drunk all the time

    PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — A new Rhode Island lawmaker says she’s surprised by the “insane amount of drinking” that goes on in the State House.

    Providence Democratic Rep. Moira (MOHR’-uh) Walsh tells WPRO-AM (http://bit.ly/2my7Io3 ) that lawmakers have “file cabinets full of booze.” She says they recently took shots on the floor of the House of Representatives to celebrate Dominican Republic Independence Day.

    Walsh took office in January. She says the drinking blows her mind and it’s “outrageous” that you can’t drive after two beers “but you can make laws that affect people’s lives forever when you’re half in the bag.”

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      A made up place for progressives: Road Island

    2. Brett L

      Rep. Walsh, I would like to introduce you to Ann Richards and Bob Bullock, who successfully legislated when wholly in the bag for years. I think it was Bullock who got the DTs in a plane while he was Secretary of State (for Texas).

    3. She says this as if it’s a bad thing.

    4. thrakkorzog

      “Man, we passed a Dicks out for Harambe day? Maybe we should cut back.”

    5. John Titor

      Sounds like early Canadian Parliament.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Early in the morning or afternoon?

          1. So drunk he looked bad in front of a bunch of Irishmen invading Canada in order to trade it for Ireland?

            He had a problem.

    6. Bobarian LMD

      Rhode Island is a place someone just made-up as a joke

      RI was made up as satire.

      Because jokes are funny.

  17. Juvenile Bluster

    Sullivan said when he asked the speaker if US Republicans were the same as Nazis, it answered in the affirmative.

    I’m somewhat surprised he cited that as an incorrect answer.

  18. Rufus the Monocled

    DON’T ANY OF YOU WORK?

    1. Creosote Achilles

      No sir, I do not. I am a kept man at the moment. It is glorious. I highly recommend it to others.

    2. bacon-magic

      I work for you. *collects more orphans for the “day care”*

    3. Tundra

      Lighten up, Judge Smails.

      It’s called ‘multi-tasking’.

    4. DOOMco

      Are you the welfare store?

    5. waffles

      Since you asked, I’m trying to get dismissed but the soft bigotry of low expectations is keeping me stubbornly employed.

    6. LT_Fish

      The last site was visible at work….this one (WP) – is blocked 🙁

  19. Rufus the Monocled

    I like the comments on Yahoo! about Google. Very Reasonoid-Glibertrianesque in its smart-alecness.

  20. Gilmore

    Bill Cosby = Apparently they’re still trying to figure out how rapey a rapist he really is

    He’s 79. Is there really any point to this other than, “how much of his estate are these people going to get”? It seems like he’s been convicted 100 times over in the press. I can’t imagine what would happen if he were entirely exhonerated. I guess it wouldn’t really rise to OJ proportions; although i think the Rape Culture-mongers would probably love an acquittal just so they can pretend that “the system always fails us!”

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Man, wouldn’t it be awesome if he were exonerated and the first thing he said on the steps of the courthouse was, ‘Hey, hey, hey!’

    2. Sour Kraut

      This is starting to be like the FBI arresting 80 year old Italian mafia guys, while the Russian and Albanian (and presumably various Asian) mafias tear through the Eastern seaboard.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        +1 Oxygen tanks.

  21. grrizzly

    Al Franken: I think Jeff Sessions committed perjury

    Minnesota Sen. Al Franken said he now believes that Attorney General Jeff Sessions committed perjury during his confirmation hearing when he did not disclose meetings with the Russian ambassador.
    Sessions’ response during the hearing to Franken’s question about Russia and President Donald Trump’s campaign was demonstrably false, Franken said Tuesday on CNN’s “The Lead” with Jake Tapper.
    “It’s hard to come to any other conclusion than he just perjured himself,” said Franken, a Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I’m perfectly willing to have them indict Sessions for perjury if they indict Clapper first.

    2. It depends on how someone interprets the word salad of Franken’s question during the hearing.

      Sessions seems to have thought Franken was asking if he had had contact with the Russians while acting as a representative of the Trump Presidential Campaign. If this is correct, Sessions didn’t lie.

      Franken seems to believe that he was asking whether or not Sessions had any contact at all with the Russians, in which case Sessions is guilty of perjury.

      1. grrizzly

        The transcript.

        Franken: “CNN just published a story alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week that included information that quote, ‘Russian operatives claimed to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.’ These documents also allegedly say quote, ‘There was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump’s surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.’

        “Now, again, I’m telling you this as it’s coming out, so you know. But if it’s true, it’s obviously extremely serious and if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?”

        Sessions: “Senator Franken, I’m not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn’t have — did not have communications with the Russians, and I’m unable to comment on it.”

        Franken asked if “there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump’s surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government” and then he added that it was “obviously extremely serious” implying that it was a nefarious channel of communication between the evil Russians and the man they were trying to install as the US President. Franken didn’t ask about routine contacts between the Trump team and various foreign leaders or representatives — that would not be “extremely serious.” Sessions responded to that accusation with a subtle degree of indignation denying the BS Russia-Trump connection. Thus, Sessions’s answer was both appropriate and correct (unless Putin indeed appointed his man as the leader of the free world last November).

      2. Juice

        Honestly “Lying to Congress” shouldn’t be a crime. And where the fuck do they get subpoena powers beyond anyone or anything within the federal government? I don’t see that in the constitution.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          ^^^THIS!

        2. Tonio

          No. Lying to Congress should be a crime for anyone, as should lying under oath in any legal situation (affidavit, testimony, etc). Telling Congress to fuck the hell off is a different matter; unless one is a federal employee, in which case a whole different set of rules apply.

    3. Flawgic

      Al Franken is dumber than a box of turds.

  22. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

    “YOU GOTTA OPEN YOUR MIND BROTHER”

    1. bacon-magic

      Thorium is people!

    2. OH YEAH Quaaaaiiiiid

      1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        Somewhere, I hope, is an aspiring and talented young film editor who will create a feature length mashup of Suburban Commando and Total Recall as his capstone project and then release it onto the tubes.

  23. Lafe Long

    Proper movements in Muslim prayer ritual can reduce lower back pain

    “One way to think about the movements is that they are similar to those of yoga or physical therapy intervention exercises used to treat low back pain,” said Professor and Systems Science and Industrial Engineering Department Chair Mohammad Khasawneh, who is one of the authors of “An ergonomic study of body motions during Muslim prayer using digital human modelling.”

    While the research focused specifically on Islamic prayer practices, similar movements are also found in Christian and Jewish prayer rituals along with yoga and physical therapy

  24. Lafe Long

    Political affiliation, weight influence your opinion on fighting obesity, study finds

    Actually, Republicans — no matter how much they weigh — believe eating and lifestyle habits cause obesity, the research found.

    But among Democrats there is more of a dividing line, said Mark Joslyn, a KU professor of political science. Those who identify themselves as overweight are more likely to believe genetic factors cause obesity.

    “Self-reported overweight people were significantly more likely to believe obesity is caused by genetics than normal weight people,” Joslyn said. “The belief that obesity is due to genetics tends to remove blame. Obesity is not a choice, some would argue, but rather people are simply genetically wired to be obese. In this way, overweight people are motivated to believe in the genetics-obesity link. We found normal weight people were not so motivated.”

    1. Jimbo

      Shocked, I is.
      FWIW, I am 20 pounds overweight due to being a lazy ass and eating a lot of cake, ice cream, candy, brownies, cookies…

      1. “a lot of cake, ice cream, candy, brownies, cookies”

        And all that adds only 20 pounds? Impressive!

    2. JaimeRoberto

      What do Libertarians believe? All of the above? None of your damn business?

  25. Gilmore

    When Symbolic Imagery Doesn’t Really Work As Intended

    I think any neutral observer would look at the bull, then the “little girl staring it down”, and think = “That is one soon-to-be-dead little girl” It doesn’t evoke the same feelings as “tank man”.

    Also = note the bolded below

    Placing the diminutive, grade school-aged girl in front of the massive bull on the eve of International Women’s Day was a way of calling attention to the lack of gender diversity on corporate boards and the pay gap of women working in financial services, a spokeswoman for State Street Global Advisors said.

    “A lot of people talk about gender diversity, but we really felt we had to take it to a broader level,” said Anne McNally, whose firm is an investment management subsidiary of State Street Corp (STT.N).

    In conjunction with International Women’s Day on Wednesday, many American woman are planning to stay home from work, which has led some schools to cancel classes.

    Organizers asked women who cannot afford to miss a day of work to limit their shopping to female-owned businesses or to wear red.

    yes, that will change the world. Take a day off and get a pedicure.

    1. DOOMco

      If they don’t go to work, how can they shop at women owned stores?
      Also, why is it good for a company to employ only women but evil if it’s run by only men?

      1. Tundra

        What if they don’t show up and nobody notices?

        1. DOOMco

          Then someones wasting a good 77% of whatever the men make!

    2. waffles

      This is a strange mixed metaphor here. Is she staring down the bull to bring back the bear? Is she the bear? I think she’s the bear.

      1. I thought Jesse was the bear.

      2. She’s bearing her soul, and that’s no bull!

    3. Jimbo

      As Sloopy already asked: “But who will make me a sammich?”

      1. Go to Capriotti’s

    4. BakedPenguin

      Take a day off and get a pedicure.

      Because Vietnamese women don’t count. Or, at least, they don’t have the resources to slack off for a day for bullshit virtue signalling purposes.

    5. JaimeRoberto

      Just have half the guys on the board identify as women. Problem solved.

    6. Damn I should have read this before posting on the later links.

  26. waffles

    So I can either believe the wikileaks are really posting leaked information or I can believe that they are an arm of the Russo-Trumpian conspiracy to turn the world to nationalism. Is that it? Someone tell me what to believe!

  27. Lafe Long

    Obama DOJ Failed to Stop Mexican Cartel Murder of ICE Agent with Smuggled Guns

    The Obama administration had numerous opportunities to arrest Mexican drug and weapons traffickers before murdering a federal U.S. agent and seriously wounding his partner but opted for the hands-off approach, a new federal audit reveals. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which operates under the Department of Justice (DOJ), should have stopped the traffickers—members of the Los Zetas organization—long before the Immigration and Customs (ICE) agents were ambushed in Mexico with firearms smuggled south of the border thanks to a once-secret Obama administration gun-running operation.

    1. Brett L

      Uh. Hold up there. Our Immigrations and Customs guys were ambushed IN MEXICO? I’m finding it hard to pick a side to root for here.

      1. The ones executing government agents?

  28. mr simple

    Fro. The New Yorker facts article:

    “Reason is an adaptation to the hypersocial niche humans have evolved for themselves,” Mercier and Sperber write. Habits of mind that seem weird or goofy or just plain dumb from an “intellectualist” point of view prove shrewd when seen from a social “interactionist” perspective.

    This must be why libertarians have trouble getting along with the crowd.

    * ignores part about confirmation bias*

  29. The RINOrepeal is being set up to make Pres. Trump look good, with a tweet about weaksauce as he vetoes it with a flourish.

    1. Brett L

      The upside of Republicare is that Democrats will once again be free to be critical of all the shit that doesn’t work once it becomes “Trump’s fault”.

  30.  

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    Mike Cernovich  
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    Verified account
     @Cernovich 16s
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    Should @realDonaldTrump appoint General Flynn to investigate corruption within the CIA? #Vault7

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    1. Gilmore

      look, if people get to bitch about my random punctuation, i’m gonna bitch that you don’t !*#&*(@ edit the tweet down to the “name + content”

      “bitch”

      there.

      1. bacon-magic

        Woah, would you talk to your mother like that? Such language.

        1. Yes, I would.

          1. bacon-magic

            I do too. To your mom, that is.

      2. Tundra

        Bitch.

        There.

      3. For the record, I respect and admire your mad punctuation skills, Gilmore.

        1. Gilmore

          Flattery will get you….. everything your heart desires. (blushes) “oh, you!” (waves lace hanky)

        2. Gilmore

          who is mike cernovitch, btw?

        3. Bobarian LMD

          And we all talk to his mom like that.

        4. bacon-magic

          Suck. Ass. Let me show you how it’s done:
          •Gilmore rocks
          •His pompadour is on point
          •He is punctual
          •He has great taste in music
          •Girls throw their panties at him even off-stage

          1. bacon-magic

            *climbs desk and throws rope over rafter*
            “Goodbye, cruel world!”
            *jumps*
            *rope breaks*
            “Huh, I sell rope but my fat ass shock loaded this noose.”
            *goes back to eating bacon*

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      You know, Twitter, you keep banning people with wrongthink yet you let Cernovich tweet please to explain it.

    1. DOOMco

      Public schools are not political! I promise!

    2. Jimbo

      Help me with the math here: Are blacks still only 3/5 of a white?

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      My homeschool kid helped his grandpa figure out lengths of bead board to cut to finish the bathroom. His grandpa (who does training at mfg businesses) says “I have 25 year olds that can’t figure this out”.

  31. Lafe Long

    Donald Trump’s Greatest Allies Are the Liberal Elites

    Trump’s popularity increased the more the establishment condemned him. This would have sent a profound and disturbing message to anyone not as clueless as our liberal elites. They did not get it. They thought they could trot out Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Hollywood celebrities and get the rubes to fall for their routine one more time. They thought the country would again obey.

    The liberal class, by embracing neoliberalism and refusing to challenge the imperial wars, empowered the economic and political structures that destroyed our democracy and gave rise to Trump. Multiculturalism, when it means, to use the words of Cornel West, nothing more than having a president who is a “black mascot for Wall Street,” betrays the disenfranchised and endows the ruling elites with a false progressivism, a false humanism and a false inclusiveness.

    Hillary and Bill Clinton, Joe Biden and the current Democratic Party leadership designed and built the massive system of imprisonment, essentially ended welfare, expanded our wars and pushed through NAFTA. They destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of poor and working-class families and are responsible for the mounds of corpses in the Middle East. Yet these liberal elites speak as if they are champions of racial and economic justice. They appear in choreographed pseudo-events to demonstrate a faux compassion. Now they have been exposed as fakes.

    Fyodor Dostoevsky excoriated Russia’s bankrupt liberal class at the end of the 19th century. Russian liberals mouthed values they did not defend. Their stated ideals bore no relationship to their actions. They were filled with a suffocating narcissism.

    In “Notes From Underground,” Dostoevsky lampooned the defeated dreamers of the liberal class, those who preached goodness but lived in moral squalor. These defeated dreamers denounced the social and cultural depravity they had largely created. They had an open disdain for the uneducated, the poor, the working class, the lesser breeds beneath them. And in the end they ushered in a moral nihilism to empower a dangerous class of demagogues, killers and fools.

    I love reading this stuff on progressive web sites.

    1. Apparently this guy’s solution is for progressives to fight against “neoliberalism.”

    2. Glitterstorm

      Good read.

    3. Maybe a short summary and the link, rather than pasting 6 paragraphs after the link? You think pixels grow on trees?

  32. Gilmore

    BAND NAME OF THE DAY
    (edging out “Jihadi-Bukakke”)

    Mannequin Hammer Attack

    1. waffles

      Ah, the old “I knew it was a mannequin” defense. I had no idea bait-bike programs had gotten so advanced.

  33. Speaking of math and homeschooling, we use the “Life of Fred” books.

    I do recommend them.

  34. Dave Weigel‏
    Verified account
     @daveweigel
    Following
    Gonna be wild in February 2021 when a new Dem majority rams Medicare-for-All through without a CBO score

    1. Jimbo

      Yep, as soon as the New Dem Majority arrives, that’ll happen. I think it was supposed to have arrived 8 or 9 years ago.

      1. bacon-magic

        “We will win this time with 3 times the identity politics!” /Dim strategist

    2. Gilmore

      But he’s been right about everything so far!?

    3. Left Hand of Radar

      How the hell did that guy ever get a gig at reason? Oh, that’s right…

      1. Somalian Road Corporation

        I wish I could tell my personal Weigel anecdote but I was sworn to secrecy and his public works are more than damning enough if you ask me.

        1. Oh yeah?

          Well I’ve got a secret, and there’s no way I’m telling you!

    4. CZmacure

      You mean like how it was “wild” when the Dem majority “rammed through” Obamacare without reading it?

      WILD!

  35. Jimbo

    SXSW: I see no reason to go now…
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2017/03/07/comey-drops-out-sxsw/98846020/

    (Yeah, I know it’s not in the “official link format…screw you guys! I am but a simple salesman)

    1. bacon-magic

      I’m a salesman too! *sticks crayon up nose*

      1. Jimbo

        You are Soooo immature.

        1. bacon-magic

          Thanks!

    2. I prefer to not think about Comey at a sex show, anyway, even if he does almost have a porn-star name.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    the GOP Obamacare-Lite bill, which seems to have been written by the various states’ Bureaus of Insurance Regulation to keep said agencies in business.

    Oh, you crazy wingnutz!

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Gonna be wild in February 2021 when a new Dem majority rams Medicare-for-All through without a CBO score

    Sounds legit.

    *heads off to betting window*

  38. Four Reasons You Should Still Play D&D 4th Edition

    (Not to say that one should eschew his preferred edition, of course)

    1. Hyperion

      1. D&D will send your kids to hell.

      2. That thing doesn’t even have a 4K screen. Bogus!

      1. 1. D&D will send your kids to hell.

        Oh, they’ve been there. And they slew Demogorgon.

        Turns out, they should have gone for Orcus, first.

    2. BakedPenguin

      I played one D&D video game (don’t know which ruleset) where I had a fighter who used a scythe. Hard to start with, but once I went up a few levels, I was getting insane critical hits (using feats and whatever else to improve criticals).

      1. Good Sir, you were likely playing Neverwinter Nights.

        An excellent game, based on the 3rd Edition Dungeons & Dragons Rules.

    3. The Last American Hero

      First Ed is perfectly adequate, especially if you tweak a few of the rules that trouble you and your crew.

      Second was a cynical money grab, so didn’t get.

      Third, as I understand it, was needlessly overcomplicated. May as well just play Rolemaster at that point.

      I have heard only good things about 4th.

      I know nothing of 5th.

      1. I have heard only good things about 4th

        *Mouth drops open in astonishment*

        You never heard that 4th edition is just World of Warcraft on paper for baby brains and is not really D&D?

      2. Also, 5th edition is, at the very least, everyone’s “second favorite edition”.

        I don’t like it very much, myself.

        1. My second favorite edition is Moldvay Basic, followed by BECMI (which is basically the same thing).

  39. Nick Gillespie commended this article on Twitter.

    Eh….

    “Keep in mind that Republicans used to consider an individual mandate uncontroversial. Conservative health care plans in the 1990s included one, and Mitt Romney encountered almost no opposition when he defended the idea during his 2008 campaign.”

    The author (Jonathan Chait) has no clue how controversial the mandate was. He’s also stupid for thinking it’s an acceptable policy to compel people to purchase things. Why not drive economic growth by having the FedGov fine anyone who didn’t buy a car or a house last year?

    1. DOOMco

      Yes! I want a plastic car! force it upon us, oh noble gov!

    2. The Last American Hero

      That’s a pretty serious re-write of history.

  40. AlmightyJB

    “Google to fix wrong results”

    Man, if you can’t trust what you read on the internet, what hope is there.

  41. Hyperion

    “Per standard operating procedure, NOAA has responded to possible budget cuts by claiming that everyone will die if they receive even one dollar fewer.”

    I’m willing to call their bluff on that and cut their entire budget, today.

    1. Mr Lizard

      ‘Man’ made global warming is in fact a myth. However Reptilian Overlord initiated planetary warming is a quite-well-documented phenomenon.

  42. Zero Sum Game

    Problem: Potholes are illegal to fill at your own expense.

    Options:
    A) Call or write the city.
    B) Contact the local paper/TV station to pressure the city.
    C) Grumble and deal with it like everyone else does.

    Answer:
    D) None of the above.

    It turns out that it’s more effective to offend people’s sensibilities to get the problem solved in a roundabout way. Spray paint a cock around the pothole and it will get fixed quickly.

    1. DOOMco

      swastikas work too
      /the league.

    2. one true athena

      The prissy council’s response is so Victorian: “Has this person, for just one second, considered how families with young children must feel when they are confronted with these obscene symbols as they walk to school?”

      literal “won’t they think of the children!!” in the wild, wow.

      protip: don’t over-react and your kids won’t care. Works for dick graffiti and it works for Trump getting elected.

      1. Zero Sum Game

        Half of the children possess a penis. The other half knows about them. Won’t someone please do something about that?

      2. I’d sympathize more with the officials if it didn’t take dick pics to make them do their jobs.

    3. Glitterstorm

      You know that scene in parks and recs where Ron Swanson fixes the pothole in front of the ladies house?
      That’s like the perfect argument against people who don’t think we should privatize roads.

    4. CZmacure

      A friend of mine adds parking to the town he lives in by going out at night and painting over red curbs with grey paint.

      1. DOOMco

        beautiful

    1. Glitterstorm

      Just like my British Monty Python movies.

    2. thrakkorzog

      So they’ve known about this for years, and publish this story the same day CK2 releases a new DLC. I smell viral marketing.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    The author (Jonathan Chait) has no clue how controversial the mandate was.

    Something tells me Jonathan Chait has no idea what insurance is. The individual mandate turns the so-called “insurance market” into a system of tax-financed benefits.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Chait:

    The best indication of the quality of the plan is that it has drawn almost universal scorn from the health-care-policy community. It’s predictable that experts on the left would dislike Trumpcare. But the right seems barely any more favorable. Conservatives like Peter Suderman, Philip Klein, Bob Laszewski, and Avik Roy, who have spent years savaging Obamacare, are united in their disdain for its replacement.

    As far as I made it.

    1. Suthenboy

      Suderman a conservative.

      Yeah. My afternoon coffee is all over my screen. I think the giant clusterfuck we are seeing play out in DC right now is the result of decades of halfwits in charge of everything; it’s all coming to a head. The lefty useful idiots are the worst of course, but the rest of them are hardly any better. No one could make a better case for limited tenure in an all citizen’s government than these professional so-called experts and Top Men. I wouldn’t trust them to police the dogshit in my back yard.

      1. The Last American Hero

        If you told them to police the dogshit, they would go out back and beat it with a nightstick instead of shoveling it up.

  45. Viking1865

    Interesting piece posted at Ace of Spades. Someone did a little gender studies experiment where they had a man play Hillary and a woman play Trump, and redid the debates. Actually interesting and not total bullshit.

    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=368752

  46. For the cost of an iPhone, you can have unlimited electricity.

    Sounds too good to be true, for me.

    Basically, it is a micro-wind-turbine you erect on your house.

    1. Suthenboy

      Iron laws. How do they work?

      If it seems to good to be true…

      1. Invest right away?

    1. Suthenboy

      There was nothing unconscious about the way Clinton was judged. She proudly announced that she would start a war with Russia, put Americans out of work, raise taxes and showed utter contempt for the voters all the while displaying what a commenter here described as a rictus grin and cackling like the queen of halloween. Having a schlong would not have helped her even if she had paced back and forth on stage displaying and stroking it. She wouldn’t have won if she had run unopposed.

      1. quincy

        I like the attempt at empirical rigor, even if its done by theater majors.

    2. Gilmore

      Now i feel sick

    3. one true athena

      we’d probably have had a lot less of being called a misogynist for not voting for Ms Trump and a lot more of “if you criticisze Ms Trump you’re proving you believe in gender equality! Giving Ms Trump a free pass would be completely misogynist! Also she’s a racist Islamophobe Hitler!”

  47. Volren

    Racism Simulator 1.2, which swaps the words white and black and Trump and Obama in media articles

    Worth looking at the article just for the Bizarro World headlines.

    1. You should post that again somewhere. I think this thread has died.

      1. CZmacure

        The way you can tell an evening thread is dead seems to be… if I’m posting on it… it’s dead.

        1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          Cold hand of the thread-grave.