Sunday Go To Meeting Links

R.I.P.

Get up and out of bed.  Even if you’ve got no particular place to go.

The father of rock-n-roll is dead.

Flying Home.  30 nations are refusing to take back illegals being deported after they commit serious crimes.

Why Should We End This Way? Is the Trump admin about to destroy the EPA?

 Crazy Arms.  North Korea tests high-thrust rocket engine.  For their “space program”.

R.I.P.

Bring Another Drink. Half of women drink while trying to get pregnant or shortly after conception but give it up once they know they’re with child.  Yeah, maybe that’s because they’re normal, Vandy.

Go Bobbie Soxer. Cybersecurity companies hoping women are able to help fill a large number of the 1.8 million jobs they’re expecting. Because diversity is more important than competence.

Vaya Con Dios, Dominican Republic.  The US is moving on to the semifinals of the WBC after eliminating our Caribbean friends.

Have a great day everybody. Try not to play with your ding-a-ling all day.

Comments

286 responses to “Sunday Go To Meeting Links”

  1. PieInTheSKy

    30 nations are refusing to take back illegals

    Deport them all to Mexico

    1. Trials and Trippelations

      Skimming the article I did not see a list of articles, but I assume they are poor countries that receive foreign aid from the US. How about the US cut off their foreign aid, and dump the violent criminals on the countries door step.

      1. dbleagle

        Some are small nations but the PRC is on the list as well.

        1. Trials and Trippelations

          Thanks for recognizing articles should be countires ?

          1. commodious spittoon

            Is counting ires what you do during the airing of grievances?

    2. Pope Jimbo

      For a while in the early 2000’s, Somalis couldn’t be deported because there was no govt to hand them over to.

      A lot of Somalis took advantage of this loophole. They learned that if they weren’t violent, the system would do just about anything to keep from locking them up. Probation for a ton of them because we didn’t want to pay to lock them up.

      Then when the deportation ban was gone, there were all sorts of sob stories about these burglars being deported for minor crimes. What was glossed over was that these guys had a lot of minor crimes on their jacket. They were just being reported for the first one though.

    3. PapayaSF

      1. No visas for anyone in a country that refuses to take back illegals. 2. Make up temporary diplomatic passports that expire in (say) 24 hours. Fly them to their home country, take them to the US embassy, confiscate the passports, and them kick them out the front door.

  2. SP

    Chuck Berry was a revelation to me. I think I was about 6 the first time I heard him. I had a friend named Nadine and her Dad played that record all the time.

    1. We always drove to Florida on vacation and my parents never wanted to spend money on a hotel room. So I still have flashbacks of hearing Chuck Berry at full volume on the 8 track at 3 am with the windows down because dad was trying to stay awake somewhere in south Georgia on I-75.

      1. The one time we drove to Florida on vacation, we stopped at our aunt’s house in North Carolina.

        We were also campers; no hotel for us.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Soooo, guessing no….Chuck Berry?

        2. dbleagle

          Same here, we camped all the time. The time the car broke and we got to have a hotel room in Vernal, Utah is still the talk of my siblings almost 50 years later.

          I repeated the same with my kids. The tent trailer got repeat flats in 1991 near Vernal, Utah. But after leaving me in the desert with the trailer, my wife found spare tires and we DID NOT spend a night in Vernal and camped in Dinosaur Nat. Monument like Triceratops demanded.

          1. We had a blowout on I-15 out in the Mojave, and had to spend a day at the Ford dealership in Vegas getting it fixed.

            Vegas by day was decidedly less glamorous than the pictures I had seen in the old World Book Encyclopedia.

          2. Oh, and we stayed at Valley of Fire State Park, where I remember the water coming out of the outdoor taps hot.

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            The park also hosts an Annual Atlatl Competition in which participants test their skills with replicas of ancient spears.

            Now that sounds like fun.

          4. Needless to say, I didn’t get to do that. (I was six years old that trip.)

          5. That reminds me of some Arizona desert camping that I did when I was 11-12. Fire ants! Everywhere Fire ants!

          6. I didn’t realize fire ants had made it all the way out to Arizona.

            You learn something new every day.

          7. RothbardsBitch1

            When I was a teenager my dad, my older sister, our two german shephards, her husband, my mother, my niece and my younger sister were on a road trip in New Mexico we took a detour that this creepy guy in a gas station suggested. We ran over a spike strip although we didn’t know at the time. My father treked back to the gas station he was kidnapped and that night he was burned alive in front of our trailer. While we were trying to put the fire out my younger sister was raped and my older sister and mother were shot in the trailer. My baby niece was kidnapped. My sister’s husband left my younger sister and I to save his daughter. Meanwhile my younger sister and I were attacked and I set up a booby trap that blew up the trailer killing the assailant. My brother in law soon returned with his daughter and we made our way to civilization.
            I never went on a road trip again.

    2. Juice

      Ok, I’ll get off your lawn.

  3. Has anyone ever been to the Florida Keys? I’m looking for a vacation place to snorkel/scuba + warm weather.

    I went down to Puerto Rico last year and enjoyed myself – minus the heavy police presence and ahem, third world charm.

    1. St Croix. Fuck the keys.

      Also, where were you in PR? If you stayed in Condado or Isla Verde, that was your fatal error. You should go again but head out to Vieques. You’ll see more goats or chickens in the street than you will police cars.

      1. We were at the Vanderbilt hotel at Condado – we rarely left the hotel at night because of the aggressive panhandlers.

        “Would you help an American down on his luck?”

        1. You done fucked up. Should have either done Vieques or you should have gone to the Luquillo hotels or to El Conquistador in Fajardo. (Where I used to live and work!)

          Try again, only this time get out of that dangerous shithole called San Juan.

    2. Yes, but not since I was a child.

      The campgrounds are probably already booked solid for the summer.

      1. Campgrounds? After a childhood of camping and hiking – often hauling our own gear for a 12 mile trek, I don’t camp. Nothing but hotels for me, preferably luxury with solid noise-reduction construction.

        1. We did the childhood camping thing too, as I mentioned further upthread.

          I’d rather rent a cabin out in the woods/mountains for a vacation. I still like the hiking thing.

          1. Lachowsky

            I live about 30 miles from Mt. Magazine. It’s the highest peak between the Appalachians and the rockies. They have beautiful cabins you can rent on top of the mountain. A couple times a year we rent one. We will bring my side by side up there with us. There is something like 60 miles of trails that go all over the mountain. We will ride all day and spend the night in the cabin. it’s a lot of fun. there are some beautiful views from the top.

          2. Where do you count the Rockies as beginning? Mt. Rushmore is much higher, as are peaks in Big Bend National Park in Texas.

          3. Lachowsky

            I guess you are correct. I just looked it up, and you are right. Everyone around here has been telling me that since I was a little kid and I never bothered to look it up. Hmm.

          4. Lachowsky

            in fact I can remember being taught that in Arkansas History class in the 5th grade. Fucking Public schools

    3. I said St Croix because you can do the wall dive right off the beach at the Westin Carambola beach resort. At least you could 19 years ago when I did it.

    4. westernsloper

      I lived in Key West back in the early 90’s. I went down there a few years ago for a day trip in my rental car. It was so crowded I did not recognize the place. I would not choose the keys for a vacation.

      If I had the means, and wanted snorkeling/diving, I would do a catamaran charter in the Caribbean. St John, St Croix, Tortola maybe. They will know the good spots, and depending on how much you spend, some proper pampering and good eats and libations.

      If my life had turned out as I had it planned, I would say you could charter my boat. But it didn’t.

      1. R C Dean

        Been awhile, but Tortola is/was great. Small enough to not be touristy, and the original home of Pusser’s Rum.

    5. RambleJack

      John pennekamp state park in largo is great snorkelling. Also, Bahia Honda park. If you get all the way to key West take that cat to the dry Tortuga’s. Be sure to grab a beer at The Porch on Duval.

      1. westernsloper

        The Dry Tortugas does have some decent snorkeling. The fort is interesting too. You just have to deal with the madness that is now Key West.

  4. straffinrun

    If the ideologues prevail, there is the very real possibility that the EPA will be functionally eliminated.

    What exactly is their ideology?

    1. Smaller, less-intrusive government.

      Which is worse than Hitler apparently.

      1. Pomp

        Oh, and rule of law and process. Which are also worse than Hitler.

        1. juris imprudent

          Uh-huh, because Stalin was so much better than Hitler. Fucking slavers.

    2. PieInTheSKy

      Poor people should die for the profit of the rich i presume

      1. If by “rich” you mean “government”, then it’s already happening.

    3. dbleagle

      Growth for the sake of growth. You know, like a cancer cell.

      The EPA is yet another text book example of an agency that was established for one reason and instead of declaring victory kept looking for reasons to expand.

      1. juris imprudent

        The most cancerous of all? Public health.

    4. Trials and Trippelations

      Also note that Pruit likens the EPA to the IRS, but the author describes the EPA as “still popular with Americans, [and] with Republican donors”
      No doubt when pushes comes to shoves that many if not most Americans would be aghast to learn the EPA was being eliminated, but some good PR would go a long way in showing Americans how detrimental to their lives the EPA is especially regarding cars. Cars are a basic and essential part of nearly all Americans lives. Showing that the new CAFE standards would essentially eliminate their ability to afford a new car would defeinitly push Americans to welcome the agency’s demise or curtailment.
      Highlighting some emotional stories like the damn smelt story in CA, and bringing out some people whose lives the EPA is destroying through litigation just because they want to alter some waterway on their land would be good moves too.

      1. Or the flooding a river in (Colorado?) with toxic mining waste.

        1. Pomp

          The King Gold Mine is just about the most egregious example of an unpunished EPA bungle that I can think of.

          1. westernsloper

            The contractor that pulled that off is still a favored EPA contractor. It is zero liability all the way down.

          2. Pomp

            The last I heard/read about the case, EPA hadn’t even apologised or admitted wrongdoing. Of course, it wouldn’t be a rational act from a legal point of view to admit wrongdoing this early.

      2. Yeah, this.
        I can remember signing the contract to liquidate an almond farmer’s entire list of assets because he couldn’t get water for a third year. The man sat there and cried as his family orchard (for nearly 100 years) went BK because of the EPA’s water diversion scheme.

        1. Viking1865

          Anyone ever read Unintended Consequences? I think on it often.

          1. Foreseeable consequences are not unitended.

        2. juris imprudent

          If that was in CA, I may temper my sympathy. Stupid fucking farmers planting the most water intensive crops in fucking DESERTS? All because Uncle Sugar was delivering virtually free water.

          1. Mythical Libertarian Woman

            If it was in the valley (especially up by Stockton) if might not have been totally stupid of them. The Delta’s right there and most of the almond farmers I knew when I lived there got their water from the Delta. Especially when this orchard was established (100 years ago), it probably was not on the farmers’ radar that California was going to get as out-of-control huge as it has, or that their access to this big-ass water source was going to get restricted for a fish no one cares about.

          2. Mythical Libertarian Woman

            Just looked at the time stamp and realized I was commenting on the AM links, not the PM ones. Oh well. The midnight lurker strikes again.

      3. dbleagle

        It doesn’t need to be a waterway on your land, it can be a temporary wet spot unconnected to any waterway.

        Remember the EPA also has gone after lawnmowers and essentially killed the 2-stroke outboard. Plus there is this little matter of the Animas River.

      4. SIV

        But millions will die from the toxic CO2 emissions.

      5. Slammer

        Direct quote from coworker, “We are only going to have sewage to drink if Trump gets his way “

        1. leonadasiv

          Well obviously! Only government knows how to handle water. It’s not like they would coverup a toxic waste spill on a major river, or lead poisoning in our water pipes. These are all things nasty corporations do. And since they have the money you couldn’t even sue them. /Progderp

          (Seriously the most tragic part of Flint Michigan is sovereign immunity keeps the people of Flint from getting Justice, but that is totally overlooked)

        2. juris imprudent

          Every progtard that brings that up gets a one-word response: Flint.

          1. DOOMco

            That was some R’s fault!!1!1

      6. Pomp

        It’s amazing how far and broad assumptions about what EPA actually does, based on the naming of the agency alone. Most people seem to not be aware that every state has its own State-level agency dedicated to environmental matters.

        A few weeks ago, I had lunch with a guy that blew the balance of the inheritance from his grandfather on a MBA in something like Environmental Management. He talked about wanting to apply for a position in hazardous waste management for our State agency, and was concerned that this job would be put in jeopardy, with the line of reasoning being that Pruitt was going to something something defund EPA. The only sense you get is the cartoonish characterisation of Pruitt wanting to dump hazardous waste into the environment because reasons.

        I pressed him on this very basic reaction: why would decreased funding to the Federal EPA impact the State agency? Even if the moustache-twirling defunding of hazardous waste programmes at EPA were to happen (ha!), shouldn’t the effect at the State agency range anywhere from neutral to increased footprint at the State level? He agreed.

        1. Our state’s version has fucked up a couple of cases of town water supplies being contaminated, but there aren’t calls for heads to roll because the administration is deep blue. Tgat, and it’s the businesses’ fault.

        2. EPA sends a lot of funding to state agencies via grants and so forth. In my neck of the woods, it might filter down to the Chesapeake Bay Program, where easily half the funding is from the EPA. A lot of state and non-profits get money from EPA to pay salaries of people they send to work on behalf of the CBP, so it does trickle down. Mind you, it just means that people have to make decisions about how much they value those jobs and whether results they’re seeing would be worth assuming the cost themselves.

          1. Pomp

            I agree. In this case, I really don’t think that hazardous materials disposal programmes here in the state are in any particular danger either way. My expectation would be a net neutral effect in those terms, even if the Federal EPA was dissolved today.

    5. Well, the overt ideology is that without a federal bureaucracy overseeing anything connected to the environment (and what isn’t, btw?) wealthy industrialists will cause an environmental catastrophe, the air will be carcinogenic smog, the water will be toxic sludge, and we’ll terraform the Earth into Venus via immoral greed. Lying just slightly beneath the surface is the dread that one feels when one is paid a handsome sum of money for a job that, when pressed, one is unable to tie into any kind of positive, valuable outcome. If your job title is something like Diversity and Inclusion Program Coordinator and you hear that budget cuts are coming, you start to feel a little uncomfortable.

      1. dbleagle

        In a just world, when the “Diversity and Inclusion” person reads of budget cuts they hear a loud rumble. When they get up from their seat and look out the window they see a boisterous crowd with an idling woodchipper and rail on the shoulders of men. In between is a sign that says “Choose”.

  5. The World Boxing Council has semifinals?

    1. Trigger Hippie

      Yes, and even I don’t care.

    2. Teams must fill boxes of varying sizes and shapes with an assortment of items within a specified time period. While timed, the contests are judged more on the amount of “free space” in packed boxes (less is better), and the aesthetic appearance of the items packed.

      The trophy is usually passed back and forth between the Germans and the Brazillians, but, ironically, a couple of years ago the trophy itself was packed by mistake, and they’re having a deuce of a time finding it.

  6. Rhywun

    Will enough GOP members of Congress really line up to zero out the EPA, presumably farming out some of its functions to other agencies but eliminating an agency still popular with Americans, if not with Republican donors?

    It was hard to choose just one string of choice derp from that article.

    1. Then why choose just one?

      1. Rhywun

        OK, here’s another!

        On one side are the pragmatists […]
        On the other side are the ideologues […]

        Guess which is which.

        1. The pragmatists are the ones that will keep expanding the department’s reach and grow its budget every single year. And the ideologues are the ones willing to take a skeptical look at the agency to make sure the taxpayers are getting value for their money?

          Am I right? Is that what he said?

          1. Rhywun

            You are wise to the ways of derp.

    2. I’d just say [citation required] and watch him twist.

      1. Trials and Trippelations

        At the cocktail parties with all his bodies in DC the EPA is extremely popular, post hoc, ergo propter hoc, the EPA is still popular with Americans.

        1. He has more than one body? Where are they buried? :-p

          1. Trials and Trippelations

            D’oh!
            🙂

      2. Grumbletarian

        Most Americans like clean air! QE-fucking-D! :mic drop:

        /progderp

    3. How would I live without the EPA with their stringent mileage “guidelines” removing engines from a car lineup?

      I mean instead of the silky smooth BMW inline-6, we get a more complicated turbocharged 4-cyl that sounds like a diesel.

      1. How about the gas-can spouts?

        I’ve argued elsewhere that the worst taxes are in fact not so much taxes, but regulations that serve as taxes on our time. So much of what the alphabet agencies do is this.

        In theory you can make more marginal dollars; you can’t make more marginal time.

        1. Don’t even start with the fuel jug spouts.

          1. DOOMco

            I’m so glad someone here linked to that company that sells the old ones.

          2. Mad Scientist

            Just buy cans intended for racing or “off-highway use.” The hose is a simple plastic tube.

          3. DOOMco

            That works as well. I had to just get the hoses to replace some of my epa nozzles.

    4. juris imprudent

      I’d say the first 10 words were derpy enough – when the clear answer is no.

  7. Old Man With Candy

    I want to know what happened to Chuck Berry’s videos.

  8. Rhywun

    I’ll leave it to you wags to suss out the “female perspective on cybersecurity”.

    1. The ladies are more concerned about their feelings on-line.

      (This is why there are no female libertarians….)

      1. “Two-factor authentication is hard!

    2. straffinrun

      Using a Trojan to gain backdoor entry?

      1. ::slow clap::

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      All https addresses will now be displayed in pink to fight breast cancer.

    4. westernsloper

      Well, it was that hot Aussie broad who figured out the decepticons where hacking the military.

    5. Heroic Mulatto

      Overly-draconian laws over “revenge porn,” you idiots!

    6. Hackers will always have access through Candy Crush.

  9. straffinrun

    North Korea is banned by The United Nations reality from conducting long-range missile tests,

    1. Useful. Idiots.

      For now.

      1. straffinrun

        Check out the hysteria here. I might drop the NAP for a minute or so if I were that guy.

        1. PieInTheSKy

          Or you could say it is self defense, no P violation required

    2. Suthenboy

      I hav e been wondering about this lot. What the fuck are we going to do with them? They are brainwashed to only see things one way: everything is oppression from common pronouns to the hygiene of fictional characters. There is no way they can be satisfied. They simply wreck everything in front of them. They cant be productive, solve problems or function in any constructive way. This is very useful if you are trying to tear down society. If that were ever accomplished what do these idiots think will happen to them when the time comes to rebuild?

      They truly are useful idiots in the old sense.

      1. I think Zardoz has some sort of competition he is sponsoring.

        1. Well, that would keep the Brutals’ numbers down.

      2. juris imprudent

        If that were ever accomplished what do these idiots think will happen to them when the time comes to rebuild?

        They can’t even… process that kind of thought. And in fairness, they shouldn’t bother trying – when they succeed in tearing down society they won’t live long enough to see what comes after. Which is the part that they really SHOULD think about.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    Here- have a Sunday buffet of argument by assertion and personal anecdote.

    Overall, Americans spend far more of their hard-earned money on health care than citizens of any other country, by a very wide margin. This means that it is in fact Americans who are getting a raw deal. Americans pay much more than people in other countries but do not get significantly better results.

    ——–

    Many countries require employers and employees to contribute to the health care system through payroll taxes, more than the United States does. But again, Americans are paying far more for health care than anyone else, and America’s businesses are stuck managing this mess. It’s true that in countries with universal health care the cost of hiring a new employee can be significant, especially for a small employer. Yet these countries still have plenty of thriving businesses, with lower administrative burdens. It can be done.

    ———

    Americans today are paying vastly more in money, worry and hassle for the same, and sometimes worse, care than people in other wealthy capitalist democracies. Some Americans have coverage that serves them well, but judging by the current mood, the number of Americans who think the system needs to change is growing. No health care system is perfect. But in a nation that purports to champion freedom, the outdated disaster that is the United States health care system is taking that freedom away.

    Defining your terms is for chumps. I suspect the claim “Americans pay lots and lots more than those fortunate Finns!” has more to do with the way costs are broken out and trackable. If the costs of health care are buried in the general tax pool, the Finns pay “nothing”. Also, if the government puts doctors on a salary, so they can be freed from the evil fee-for-service business model, that will inevitably have an effect. And, if your doctor decides he has seen enough patients to justify his salary, he might just take the rest of the day off.

    1. ruodberht

      Progs might want to stop holding up Finns as the epitome of civilized behavior or people might notice how lily-white those Finns are and start wondering if the progs are going to start eugenics up again.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The Finns have also had a rather frosty relationship with refugees, putting them in tents.

        A large portion of the refugees to Finland have voluntarily left to go back to Iraq, etc… Think about that for a second.

      2. Suthenboy

        Who said the progs gave up on eugenics?

    2. Private, auxiliary health care in Finland.

      (And why did the site log me out in the last five minutes?)

      1. Number.6

        Because you were logged in for a whole day, I’d guess.

        1. Wasn’t logged in overnight.

          1. Number.6

            Hmm. If I just hang around on the site for 24 hours, it drops me out. I guess there’s more to this internet doohickey than meets the eye.

          2. I get logged off once in a while, but randomly. My desktop is always off overnight.

            I’ve been getting logged off one or two other sites as well.

    3. Gilmore

      . Americans pay much more than people in other countries but do not get significantly better results.

      This is meaningless and probably wrong.

      What % of US medical spending is for “Quality of life” rather than longevity?

      How many people in other countries get knee/hip replacements?

  11. ArchieBunker

    So whats the over-under on days until Mr Peanut or the monopoly man send glibertarians a cease and desist letter for using their logo/likeness?

    1. …the monopoly man…
      His name is Milburn Pennybags! damn it.

      1. ArchieBunker

        I thought his name was Charles Koch..

      2. Do you have a copy of The Monopoly Companion, or something?

    2. Old Man With Candy

      They will have an unpleasant surprise when our general counsel fixes them with a narrowed gaze.

      1. *positions nutcracker and Get Out of Jail Free card*

  12. The Late P Brooks

    So whats the over-under on days until Mr Peanut or the monopoly man send glibertarians a cease and desist letter for using their logo/likeness?

    My money’s on Daddy Warbucks.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Don’t go in there!”

    Oh, those smooth-talking, self-congratulating white liberals. Listen to them moon over Barack Obama. Look at how widely they open their arms to a black visitor. Don’t be duped. They’re wolves in L. L. Bean clothing. There’s danger under the fleece.

    That’s a principal theme in the most surprising movie hit of the year so far, “Get Out,” whose box office haul in America crossed the $100 million mark last weekend. Heck, that’s the premise.

    The Politicization of Everything continues.

    1. Rhywun

      I could subject you to my whole long riff on Vatican II and “The Exorcist.” (Don’t worry: I won’t.) I could link abortion to “Rosemary’s Baby,” women’s liberation to “The Stepford Wives” and Black Lives Matter to “Get Out,” in which black lives matter to the main white characters in only a ghoulish fashion.

      Please, do!

    2. leonadasiv

      I’d say he’s trying to be relevant, but movie reviews should top the list of most relevant topics to write about.

    3. Suthenboy

      I have avoided that movie. I assumed it was The Wicker Man morphed into a whitey is the ghoul preying on darkies plot. I am really worn out on the whole racism schtick. Nearly every time I hear something leaning that way now I just say ‘fuck off’ and turn my back.

      1. Turning your back on oppression is so white privilegy.

      2. Vhyrus

        I watched it last night and I thought it was hilarious. The rich, elitist, ‘we love black people’ people turned out to be the most vile, oppressive people on the planet. Life imitates art, as they say. Oh, and seeing this with my black girlfriend just gives me a whole new avenue of ways to fuck with her.

        1. LT_Fish

          Yeah, the posters make it look stupid, but I’ve heard good things from Red Letter Media, Chris Stuckman, etc….it’s one horror flick I might actually put in the effort to see before it’s out of theaters.

          1. Yeah, Mike and Jay are not exactly SJWs.

          2. Mike and Jay achieved demi-god status when they,made the Mr. Plinkett Star Wars Prequels reviews.

  14. BigGreg

    “The father of rock-n-roll is dead.”

    Has anyone told Lou Reed?

    Alternative joke: He’s watching angels pee now.

  15. Warty

    the objectification and violation of black bodies; white people’s appropriation of black culture; the trope of the white savior.

    Ok, the white savior thing makes sense, and it’s a pretty gross trope in its way, up there with the tragic mulatto. And I guess appropriation of twerking is worth getting upset about if you don’t like skinny white girls pretending their spastic pancake asses are worth looking at. So those things make sense to complain about if you accept their premises. I guess.

    But what’s with the term “black bodies”? You hear it all the time nowadays. How is a black body distinct from a black person? Is it something like, the black person isn’t seen as fully human in the framework of white supremacy, so we need to use this rhetorical device to highlight it?

    I don’t get it. Someone with a doctorate explain it to me, please.

    1. Warty

      Fuck. Peice of shit fucking tags. The first paragraph is italicized. Ignore your lying eyes.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s a Ta-Nehisi Coates thing, you wouldn’t understand.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        If that guy ever gets a reparation check….I’m gonna come down there and slap you people out.

    3. I don’t get the term “black bodies” either.

      And the Magical Negro is another ugly trope.

      1. Juice

        Every time I hear “black bodies” I think thermodynamics.

        1. Pi Guy

          +1 ultraviolet catastrophe

          1. dbleagle

            I think of black holes. Can’t get much blacker than a black hole.

    4. PieInTheSKy

      I assume the phrase black bodies is used when there is sexuality involved.

      1. PieInTheSKy

        For example like when studying black anality

        https://twitter.com/RealPeerReview/status/793106095090896896

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          anal ideologies

          Dibs on the album name.

        2. Heroic Mulatto

          It is at this point that I could have made an entire career -with tenure- from my hobby.

          1. BakedPenguin

            ‘IFLS’

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            Don’t you mean “IFLBA“?

          3. BakedPenguin

            Those girls (at least the first couple) didn’t seem too thicc. Doesn’t Jeny Romero have any twerking vids?

          4. BakedPenguin

            ’cause I couldn’t find any.

      2. Suthenboy

        It sounds more like a term for property to me. Just another reason I am sick of hearing about it. It is a disgusting false narrative kept alive and relentlessly pushed on everyone for the sake of manipulation, for power over others.

        Fuck that.

    5. Rhywun

      It sounds like slave lingo to me.

      1. Warty

        You mean “lingo of the enslaved”.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s meant to imply the dehumanization of black people. That whites mentally reduce blacks to nothing more than bodies, or property.

        The unintentionally hilarious part is that most of the people using this term would identify as socialists/communists, where people’s bodies literally are the property of the state.

        1. Suthenboy

          It isnt unintentional or hilarious.

    6. something interracial something porn?

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Quit mumbling muthafucka and provide some links!

    7. Gilmore

      But what’s with the term “black bodies”? You hear it all the time nowadays.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_body

      1. juris imprudent

        I was assuming that was what it was, and I was not disappointed. Fucking geeks [myself included].

    8. Gilmore

      jk this guy ‘splains good =

      Why do social scientists refer to black people as “black bodies”?

      Because it has become fashionable in some academic circles to refer to people in general as “bodies” — black bodies, brown bodies, gendered bodies, enslaved bodies, etc., etc. It’s not “a black thing” in particular. But it is true that you’re unlikely to find many academic references to white bodies, or rich, powerful, or influential bodies, because this use of “bodies” to mean “people” is usually intended to clarify that human beings in a particular social context have been (or are now being) treated as objects or commodities, not as individuals.

      I have misgivings about this usage. First, it is alienating jargon that tends to separate specialists from the general reading public. Second, it tends to reproduce the very objectification it is supposed to be identifying. As Alex Sayf Cummings remarked in his blog essay The Case Against “Bodies”:


      To talk about day laborers … as a bunch of bodies ready to be transferred to the back of a pickup truck is, perhaps, to make a comment about how they were treated literally as interchangeable arms and legs.… But to do so is not just commenting on their dehumanization—it is … treating unique historical actors as if they are just what an unfair and abusive system understood them to be: interchangeable lumps. There were some bodies on the auction block. There were some bodies out in front of the punk rock bar. There were some bodies going door to door (sorry, moving through space) to hand out Jehovah’s Witness literature. What is the point of this, except to talk about people like they were things?

      Exactly.

      1. Precisement. The vocabulary choice is deliberate because the goal is not to discourage discrimination (a kind of collectivism) but to attain power over a particular group.

    9. Pomp

      Kmele Foster did a special edition of the Fifth Column podcast several weeks ago that included one professor that was absolutely fucking obsessed with using the term to characterise a uniquely aggrieved class of Americans. The second half of the podcast was extremely tedious, as the professor continued to namedrop philosophers and more or less say nothing more than characterise “cultural memory” a couple dozen different ways without saying anything new.

      1. Juice

        Gates is/was tolerable and seems like a smart guy with a few blind spots and misconceptions. The second guy, Yancy?, is just a straight up angry racist disguising his racism as intellectualism.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    The NYT has discovered no-knock raids. It’s a long form narrative, highly dramatized, and I only skimmed it. That was all I could stand.

    At the end, we get this:

    Mr. Guy debated that very point with his police interrogators during their jailhouse interview.

    One officer, according to the transcript, explained that the “protocol on high-risk search warrants is no-knock — it’s for officer safety.”

    “Oh, I didn’t know,” Mr. Guy said.

    “A lot of other states have gone to that as well,” the policeman added.

    “It would have been a lot easier if someone would have announced themselves, man,” Mr. Guy offered.

    1. The URL mentions “drugs”. One more example of how the War on Drugs is morally evil.

  17. Rhywun

    Nice beatdown of the whole “Meals on Wheels” idiocy.

  18. Mike Schmidt

    Remember the peaceful “Water Protectors” protesting the DAPL up in North Dakota? Surprise, surprise; not all of them were so peaceful.

    The North Dakota State and Local Intelligence Center compiled a 41-page document of social media posts with threats along with photos, names, addresses and contact information for officers involved with the protest.

    “Every one of these cops has familys [sic] … Make there [sic] family pay,” read one Facebook post.

    Coming soon to a pipeline near you; they’ve spread out across the country to repeat their antics elsewhere.

    Elsewhere, however, the anti-pipeline movement has taken off, with protest camps being erected in seven states: Florida, Iowa, Oklahoma, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, South Dakota and Texas.

    1. Mike Schmidt

      The good news is they ultimately lost

      MORTON COUNTY, N.D. — Dakota Access LLC expects to introduce oil into the pipeline north of the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation early next week, the company said in court filings.

      Dakota Access, a subsidiary of Texas-based Energy Transfer Partners, said the company anticipates crews will install the pipe under Lake Oahe this week and begin final testing, according to a status update filed in federal court.

      The company projects that oil may be introduced into the portion of the pipeline near Cannon Ball between Monday, March 20, and Wednesday, March 22, depending on the success of the testing, documents show.

      Last week, U.S. District Judge James Boasberg denied a request from Native American tribes to halt construction of the pipeline. Tribes argue the pipeline violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. The Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe is now appealing the decision.

    2. leonadasiv

      Pipelines are the devil’s bidding! We must stop these inanimate objects from being built to save our souls!

      1. Mike Schmidt

        The case brought by the Cheyenne River Sioux was actually on those grounds. Something about once oil flows through the pipeline, the “sacredness” of the river will flow away. I guess the dozens of other pipelines going under it must have had some special coating to prevent that from happening.

      2. juris imprudent

        And so it was.

        The best part is, the dopey-lefties that cringe at every Christian reference just gobble this shit up.

    3. Rhywun

      Looks like Moe got a FB account.

  19. Are there any pix available for the Marine (and other armed forces) “scandal?” I just want to check them for research purposes.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      I might not be so eager LH. Thinking back to my days with Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children, I’m not sure I’d be eager to see nudies of the WM’s (women Marines). Unless you are really into lesbians, the other branches of the military might be a better fit for you.

      Amazing how many WM’s were fairly butch lesbians (this was even before don’t ask don’t tell) that joined the Marines to go to foreign lands and bang a bunch of pussy. Just like the male Marines.

      1. I guess I have high expectations – given the female contingent of the IDF.

        1. I see wood chippers

          It’s a mix. And who knows whether they’re all really Marines.

  20. Trigger Hippie

    Question from the tech-challenged: A few days ago I noticed that when I begin to type out a comment and need to open up a second window to check my spelling/reference/whatever and go back to the original page my keyboard will not allow me to continue to type. I could be halfway through a paragraph but it’s a no go and I have to refresh the page to type again.

    I have no idea why this suddenly happened and can only assume I accidentally changed a setting while in a drunken stupor. Any ideas?

    1. leonadasiv

      You were hacked by the Russians. At least that’s what it says here in my IT for jackasses book.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Well, I do have a bit of Russian blood(possibly Russian Jew, but my southern-born elder kin refuse to elaborate on it). So, It’s entirely possible I subconsciously hacked myself.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      SP put in a macro which detects when you have been watching porn.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Sneaky Harpie!

        Nah, this is a problem on all sites. Not just here.

      2. westernsloper

        Well, I know that is not true. Because I am not having TH’s issue.

    3. Gilmore

      my keyboard will not allow me to continue to type.

      You need to be nicer to your keyboard, and try and be a better listener sometimes

      1. Trigger Hippie

        So you’re saying that only slapping my cock against it leaves the keyboard emotionally unfulfilled?

        1. Gilmore

          That, and you also neglect it when its sending ‘signals’ its looking for some non-judgemental attention.

    4. AlmightyJB

      “I have to refresh the page to type again.”

      I’ve been having this issue for a few months on my Motorola phone. You can install a different browser app and then switch between Apps instead of between windows in the same App.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        *gives it a try*

        Nope. The Chrome page automatically refreshes after I return from the other browser.

        Now to try it exclusively on the other browser, which I’m not a big fan of…

        1. Trigger Hippie

          Okay then. Works just fine on the other one. Guess I need to wipe and reinstall Chrome.

          1. AlmightyJB

            Yeah I’ve had other issues with chrome as well. I also use adblocker which appears to be very similar to chrome.

        2. AlmightyJB

          My Chrome doesn’t normally refresh if all I do is switch between App windows. Are you closing it and re-opening it or just switching between windows?

          1. Trigger Hippie

            Just switching. God knows what sort of bugs I’ve unwittingly downloaded to my computer. :/

      2. I’ve had the problem for a while, although it depends on how long I’ve been off the first page. I think.

        1. Trigger Hippie

          Yeah, I’ve had that problem in the past as well. This was something different.

  21. Trials and Trippelations

    Half of women drink while trying to get pregnant or shortly after conception but give it up once they know they’re with child.  Yeah, maybe that’s because they’re normal, Vandy.

    I had a friend in nursing school try to get a professor to admit that the absolutely no drinking during pregnancy line he just told us was sensationalist crap, but the professor refused. The professor said since it would be unethical to conduct a study to discover the safe limit it’s better to be safe than sorry. My friend pointed out that clearly there is a safe small amount of consumption as we all know someone that knowingly drank knowingly or unknowingly during pregnancy and the kid was fine. The professor still refused to back away from the absolutist position.

  22. Gilmore

    “The Trump administration’s internal battle over the environment is shaping up…”

    Idiot @ Daily Beast says “Environment = EPA”

    He also says “making the correct noises about climate change means you’re a “pragmatist”.

    While neither Tillerson nor Mattis have any formal authority over the EPA, Tillerson in particular is respected by the president, and both of their departments rely on EPA climate science.

    The military and the state dept *rely* on …. what the fuck are you talking about?

    …as very real as environmental racism actually is, it’s hard to see Ali’s program lasting long under Trump, Bannon, and Pruitt—not to mention Ali’s own status as a Muslim working for the most anti-Muslim American administration in history.

    Pretty sure if a single muslim was fired because of their religion that they’d have a slam dunk lawsuit on their hands.

    he also asserts that Pruitts statements about the role of CO2 were “demonstrably false”; of course he doesn’t point to a single source of anyone “demonstrating” the falseness of the statement, but instead handwaves at “lots of studies” without specifying anything about C02. Judith Curry, Climatologist, chimes in and says, “Pruitt is 100% correct”

    Who to believe? Scientist, or author of “God vs. Gay“? Its so hard to decide.

    1. Suthenboy

      After much consideration and deliberative thought I have come to this conclusion about the EPA and environmentalism.

      Fuck the EPA. Shit-can it, pour gas on it and light it up.

    2. Vhyrus

      I’m pretty sure if a single muslim in a government position is fired for ANY reason they have a slam dunk lawsuit if they can get in front of the right judge, because literally Hitler.

  23. Mike Schmidt

    Has anyone run across this yet? It has apparently been out for a while, so someone probably linked to it already. If not…

    Here’s a new board game; Secret Hitler. Get it and be the bestest host at your next TDS party! And just in case you aren’t sure if there is some woke message behind this game…from the FAQ’s:

    I don’t think there’s anything funny or cool about fascism. Who can I complain to?

    President-elect Donald J. Trump
    725 5th Avenue
    New York, NY 10022

    If you live in the US, you can also text your address to 520-200-2223 to get contact information for your elected representatives.

    1. Played it a couple of times – not bad, but it seemed a bit difficult for the Liberals to win.

    2. westernsloper

      The majority of players are liberals. If they can learn to trust each other, they have enough votes to control the table and win the game. But some players are fascists. They will say whatever it takes to get elected, enact their agenda, and blame others for the fallout. The liberals must work together to discover the truth before the fascists install their cold-blooded leader and win the game.

      Huh? Sounds like they are describing both Hillary Clinton, and Barrack Obama.

    3. Rhywun

      The liberals must work together to discover the truth before the fascists install their cold-blooded leader and win the game.

      They should have just named the game “Projection”.

      1. BakedPenguin

        Freud would have a field day studying these idiots. Also, whatever he got wrong, he was dead right about that.

        1. westernsloper

          I hope you are at least getting royalties. Sounds like a rip off of Secret Nazi President to me.

          1. BakedPenguin

            I was thinking the same thing. But I’m still undecided about IP.

          2. westernsloper

            Thanks for the “Tool” reference the other night concerning Trigger Hippies coded speak. I listened to them the rest of the night.

          3. BakedPenguin

            They are an excellent band. And (to me) they do a great job at being far more disturbing than any black metal I’ve heard.

          4. Trigger Hippie

            “…they do a great job at being far more disturbing than any black metal I’ve heard.”

            I remember the first time I saw the inner holographic image in the Aenima CD case and thinking “Hey look, a guy blowing himself. You don’t see that everyday.”

          5. Old Man With Candy

            I have Warty to thank for making me aware.

  24. I see wood chippers

    This is what happens when people use a citation itself as evidence, rather than the source that’s being cited. From the drinking article:

    ..but the latest research has indicated that there is no safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.

    Follow that link and you’ll read:

    Myth: A single drink containing one ounce of alcohol during pregnancy, or occasionally during pregnancy, has been scientifically linked to affects that can be diagnosed as an FASD.
    While only abstention from alcohol during pregnancy completely eliminates any risk to the embryo or fetus there is no published research or documented case of an individual prenatally exposed to an ounce of alcohol being diagnosed with an FASD. It is possible that a drink could have a subtle harmful effect, but it has not been scientifically shown that such an effect would reach the criteria necessary for a diagnosis under the FASD umbrella.

    1. We were lucky enough to have an OB who was honest about those studies. Her take was basically that while abstaining from alcohol entirely was a great idea if that’s something you want to do anyway. Otherwise, a drink or two a day is fine, because your liver is going to process the alcohol before it gets to your kid. The studies that most sources rely on for FAS never controlled for other “lifestyle variables”. In other words, people who are problem drinkers will a.) tend to lie about how much they drink, and b.) probably do a lot of other unhealthy things they aren’t going to tell you about.

      1. I see wood chippers

        I haven’t read anything in detail, because I don’t like babies (no offense). But I’m highly skeptical of the statement “because your liver is going to process the alcohol before it gets to your kid”. The liver takes roughly an hour to process one drink’s worth of ethanol. I don’t know what the ethanol exchange rate between maternal and fetal blood is at the chorionic villi, but I would guess that an hour is plenty of time. Plus, the ethanol that does make it the fetus is metabolized more slowly and will persist longer.

      2. Number.6

        Given that for many, many years, nobody gave a shit about FASD and most Irish kids grew up with normal bilateral symmetry, with all the bits they were meant to have, and none of the bits they weren’t, and (despite rumor having it otherwise) and weren’t clearly intellectually inferior as a group, I’d suggest that a very modest level of alcohol consumption in expectant mothers was likely to lead to correspondingly slight increase in the risk of FASD or whatever acronym-de-jour we want to apply to it.

        There are plenty of prenatal risks in the world, and frankly, most of the plausible risks to the fetus have been suitably Godwinned, it’s time to concentrate on the harder targets. Expect proscriptions on carbohydrate intake and tea next.

        1. To be fair, carb-loading has probably led to any increase in obesity in the West.

          1. Suthenboy

            You aren’t sugarcoating that at all, are you?

          2. westernsloper

            I’m not carb-loading. It is a bulking cycle. (that has lasted several years)

  25. Pope Jimbo

    Ugh!

    Local columnist says Jim Surdyck opening his liquor store on Sunday was an assault on the rule of law. He gets his “legit journalist” card punched too because he backhandedly says staying open on Sunday is as bad as Donald Trump.

    1) I actually know the columnist. I drank beer with him years ago when he was a PR flack working in the same building as me. Nice guy, this surprised me.

    2) Comments are pretty good. Many smartasses are asking why being open early is such an existential threat to the rule of law while sanctuary cities aren’t.

    1. westernsloper

      A great example of voluntary compliance is paying taxes.

      Voluntary? When did this start?

      1. Sure, you can choose to not pay, have your property seized, be arrested, resist, and be shot dead in the street. It’s a shitty choice, but it is a choice.

        1. leonadasiv

          Some of these people deny that is you don’t pay your taxes that the government will force you to the point of death. It’s crazy how delusional they are.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    I’ve got the Sunday shows on in the background. Those bozos (Chuck Todd, Stephanopolous) are totally obsessed by this fucking “wiretap” nonsense.

    Apparently, D T has DEFAMED the Ascended One, and must kneel before Him to express his remorse and offer up a heartfelt plea for forgiveness. Kissing his ring is not optional.

    1. Trump’s popularity among the plebs will only grow as the Trump’s perfidy re: Obama is broadcast.

      I like living in a bubble as much as the next guy, but I try to remind myself that it is a bubble, and not representative of other’s views or experiences.

      1. AlmightyJB

        I went out last night for some beers. Some dudes starts talking about how great Trump was and I pretty much was staying out of it. But then they started talking about how he was going to “rebuild” the military and invade Syria and protect Europe and I just couldn’t do it. Went off with a bunch of F-bombs. Then some dude starts talking about Plato and I’m like what the fuck. I probably didn’t do my argument justice but they all ended up taking about something else which suited me fine.

        1. Number.6

          It’s funny, talking about Plato is pretty much guaranteed to make me go off with a bunch of F-bombs.

          1. God rest Dana Plato’s X-rated soul….

        2. Suthenboy

          I dont understand why that didn’t go well. Alcohol consumption in a bar is the perfect set-up for talking rationally about politics.

        3. Gilmore

          some dude starts talking about Plato and I’m like what the fuck

          The History of Philosophy in a nutshell

    2. AlmightyJB

      I have All Girls Garage on with the sound off. Much better than that.

    1. Not an Economist

      It is good thing Chelsea has accomplished a lot in her short life in private industry. Her record of success of unmatched for someone as young as her. Plus with her husband’s incredible success in hedge funds there is not limit to the amount of money they can make.

    2. westernsloper

      She’ll only need to attend a handful of meetings per year with the Expedia folks, have virtually no duties and reel in some significant cash. It’s truly a wonderful life, isn’t it?

      Seems to be. Expedia sucks ass BTW. I tried to avoid them when I traveled a lot. The one time I did book through them, I got hosed trying to make a change.

    3. Mad Scientist

      This makes perfect sense. Expedia is in the business of helping people go places they would never be able to get to on their own. Their board should contain people who have experience with that.

      1. *Polite applause*

  27. My wife bought a new bottle of gin yesterday – small batch, this bottle being “Batch 001” – that is made here in the city of Grand Rapids by Long Road Distillers.

    It is the most boozy gin i’ve ever tasted with very strong overpowering – like ethyl? – aftertaste. Hardly any juniper/citrusy taste at all. It needs a hefty squeeze of lime slice to make it palatable.

    The first time I tasted it I waved my hand a few times in front of my face to make sure I hadn’t gone blind.

    1. Sloopy thinks you should be drinking Ohio gin.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      Dude, North Shore #6. There is no other.

      1. Pi Guy

        Hedrick’s is nice

        1. Agent Cooper

          Hendrick’s is a very good solid gin.

    3. Suthenboy

      That doesnt sound like something you are supposed to drink. Are you sure isnt supposed to be a solvent for leaching essential oils?

    4. Not an Economist

      I was watching TV the other day and saw something interesting about Prohibition and the rise of mixed drinks. Alcohol is needed for industrial use so they couldn’t allow it completely. So some of the industrial alcohol got “diverted” for public use. The industrial alcohol didn’t taste all that well so they started adding other ingredients to make it taste good. Hence the taste for mixed drinks was developed.

      The nut punch part of it was the federal government knew people would divert the industrial alcohol so the mandated additives to be added to the alcohol. The “diverters” knew this and would filter the alcohol to remove the additives. The federal government changed the additives several time over Prohibition and it was a race between the “diverters” and the government over removing the additives.

      Oh yeah, the additives were deadly. Nobody kept records on how many people died because nobody wanted to. Modern estimates are in the thousands, maybe even 100,000. Good thing government was always looking out for our best interest.

    1. Gilmore

      “Faaack Yoooo”

      that person was clearly Canadian, and should have been shot merely on suspicion of being a syrup-smuggler.

      1. John Titor

        These euphemisms…

    2. Gilmore

      I don’t know what the MM angle on this is going to be, but i think there’s probably a wide-gulf between the “YOU AINT GOT NO RIGHTS OVER ME” sovereign-citizen nonsense, and the typical libertarian attitude of respectful non-compliance / observation of rights.

      The people in the former category give the latter a bad name.

      1. LT_Fish

        That’s my take generally as well. The whole “Articles of Confederation” thing….really? That wasn’t superseded? MM does a great job keeping the humor super dry (he’s got some great videos re: tumblr, DA and other things too – just not as prolific as Sargon, Mundane Matt or Vernaculis).

          1. LT_Fish

            I did see that last night. Was wondering if that’s where the name came from on TSTSNBN.

        1. Gilmore

          he’s got some great videos re: tumblr, DA

          yes, i think everyone is familiar with the Hugbox Chronicles, etc. IA did good work, and i like his extended-understatement style of humor as long as its not beaten to death. I liked this piece which he did soon after re-launching as MM

          I think some people think he’s drifted more ‘racist-alt-righty’ in the last few years. I think there’s probably some truth to that, but i don’t really care myself. I think his larger points about the methods/rhetoric of the left are still sometimes interesting. He’s often capable of making some simple/clear observations sometimes in way others take longer to articulate.

  28. DOOMco

    Well, there’s a fire just outside town. Started in the mountains near Nederland. Someone called it in at 130 this morning. it was 3-5 acres then, but grew rapidly. we have the national guard flying over the place. Mandatory evac about 4 miles from my place. I put my camping gear in the truck, just to be sure.

    1. westernsloper

      Fire Near Downtown Boulder

      He said smoke is pouring toward neighborhoods and many dead trees are combusting and sending black smoke into the air less than a half-mile from his home.

      They don’t cull the dead trees in and near town? Seems pretty stupid given wildfire risk around populated areas.

      1. DOOMco

        They have been, but the beetle issue is kinda bad.
        There was a fire here a few years ago that took care of most of the mountains near Ned.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Some years Back, you could cull in Big Bear Cal. because of the Bark Beetle infestation, sad, but many decks were built, and there was much rejoicing.
          Bob

          1. DOOMco

            I have friend in Leadville, he’s been building benches and fences with it all. we also mined some trails for turquoise, he’s puting that into an end table that has some good cracks in it. Should look pretty cool.

        2. westernsloper

          Ya, the foothills got hammered with the bark beetle. It is less of a problem the further west and higher up you go. I am not sure why.

          Clear cut/re-plant might help, but the tree huggers would have a fit.

          1. Suthenboy

            Y’all are giving me the heeby jeebies. The bark beetles (not sure if the same species) gave me fits back in the 90’s . Louisiana timber was pretty hard hit. I lost a bit but not like some people did. My grandfather was familiar with them and theorized that having a mix of species would dampen that problem and it looks like he was right. Monoculture always invites epidemic of one sort or another.

          2. westernsloper

            Ya, from an ignorant laymans view, it looks like the lodge pole stands get hit hardest. But they also take a fair number of Ponderosa Pines. On the front range, whole mtn sides are dead.

            If they would have went in and culled the sick trees from the start, I would imagine it would not have spread like it did. But we can’t be logging any trees now can we.

          3. DOOMco

            Controlled burns are terrible for the environment, too!!1!

      2. DOOMco

        I tried to take pictures when I grabbed gas this morning, but they didn’t come out well. Looking into downtown, it looks like a bunch of fog almost. can’t see the fire in the mountains, but the smoke is right over pearl st.

        1. Mad Scientist

          Oh no! All the snowflakes are going to get cancer!

          1. DOOMco

            Single Payer Now!

    2. Old Man With Candy

      Nederland was about my favorite place in CO. Any town with a Dead Guy festival is OK with me.

      1. DOOMco

        I like it up there, if I ever get a house that’ll be on the list.
        I camp up there a lot over the summer.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    The first time I tasted it I waved my hand a few times in front of my face to make sure I hadn’t gone blind.

    That, of course, reminded me of this:

    Fiorello: Well I don’t know about that.

    Driftwood: NOW what’s the matter?

    Fiorello: I don’t like the second party either.

    Driftwood: Well you should have been at the first party, we didn’t get home till around four in the morning…I was blind for three days.

    1. +1 aint no sanity clause.

  30. Yusef drives a Kia

    Hi guys, Long time Reasonoid Lurker, sometime poster Yusef here, I just wanted to say Thanks to All of you for doing this. Commenters starting a Website, and it’s instantly filled, how cool is that? I may run my mouth from time to time in the future, and Bonus, NO Tulpa!
    Bob

    1. DOOMco

      Hey Yusef!

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Howdy, nice place you got here

      2. Gilmore

        You make it sound like an AA meeting.
        (swigs beer)

    2. John Titor

      Play Another Saturday Night Yusef, no one cares about your new stuff.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Wrong Yusef, I’m Captain Adama’s Father, a Lawyer on Caprica, BSG much?
        B

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Old Paki English guy driving a beat up old Korean car, what an image
          B

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Fuck you.

      /This is standard.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        I’m hoping for a narrow gaze, can I get a narrow gaze?

  31. Yusef drives a Kia

    And thanks for using a REAL timezone, none of this EST crap

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      AAAnd I can’t tell time…

  32. Hyperion

    Is the Trump admin about to destroy the EPA?

    Ah, yes, no doubt. Because any attempt at all to hold an agency to any level of accountability or constrain their budget, is trying to kill it. Agencies must be allowed to go totally rogue on American citizens and no amount of revenue is too much.

  33. juris imprudent

    Wondering if Sloopy lowered himself into cheering for a Rick Pitino team – that lost anyway.

    1. I was torn. Part of me hoped for one of the baskets to collapse and then not to have a replacement, and another part hoped for a CX gas attack.