OK you lot, Afternoon links for ya. Even a bit early. Try to read a couple before going OT and posting a dozen of your own, yes?… What is that? I am being overly sensitive?! ME?!!! WHY I …
*storms out wiping away tears of rage*
- Due to a completely random car attack, Westminster Bridge saw dozens of casualties, then it got a bit stabby/shooty outside Parliament… probably the IRA.
- How did Florida Man get his python a work permit in Dresden, Germany?
- Chicago contemplates going NYC.
- Some Daily Fail cheesecake for those who likes the wimmins.
- Daily Fail for those that might like Orlando Bloom.
- Germany sez “want monies, be nice” Turkey sez “send monies or we release the Bashi-bazuks”. Oh, and some bonus Erdogan-derp.
A Libertarian Rage Quit
I am first
Off topic
This is a special moment for me
*STOMPS BACK IN, SEES THIS AND TURNS ON HEEL AND STOMPS BACK OUT*
I just don’t understand how he got a hold of a knife. This is England, no?
Not to worry…”Prime Minister Theresa May will be chairing a meeting of the Government’s emergency Cobra committee.” They will get to the bottom of this.
…
Odd, I thought they would have wanted G.I. Joe?
I laughed when I read Cobra committee. People are paid to come up with these names? It’s like military operations, who gets to name those? can I apply, or do i need a family member in the top?
“Snooker Committee” was already taken.
He’s an ugly American.
Get off my ice, you wankers.
I remember “ugly Americans” being a good show. Nothing I like makes it.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and they’ll do a spinoff about Leonard.
The Cobra Committe are a bunch of fakirs
*narrows gaze*
Nah, Destro’s been a hardcore Tory for a long time. Did a lot of work recently to defeat the Scottish independence vote.
You got to love how G.I. Joe was a 30 minute long commercial for G.I. Joe toys, and then at the end of every episode they had a 20 second educational bit ending with “Now I know!” “And knowing is half the battle!”, and got themselves reclassified as educational programming.
On one of the nostalgia digital subchannels, I saw Saved by the Bell with the E/I tag.
Some of us did spend a lot of time ‘studying’ Tiffany Amber Thiessen…
In what universe did it get classified as educational? Not in my neck of the woods.
I thought a Cobra committee was something that was for politicians who had been voted out of office. Like my Cobra health care benefits that I get when I leave a job.
I pictured the pols using a vacant meeting room to hold pretend committee sessions where they call witnesses (who are just relatives) and pretend they still have power and relevance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RGxs8jzcUo
You mean, as opposed to Glasgow?
I know, its like those nice blue boxes that the government put out where you can deposit your unneeded, unwanted, and/or illegal cutlery do NOTHING AT ALL!
No, I’m not kidding either.
http://i2.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article8545613.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/JS55677230.jpg
“surrenderyourknife.co.uk”
Bend the knee, peasants.
They gonna ask for cars to be surrendered too?
the British approach to problems:
1) ask nicely
2) ignore until impossible
3) go Winston Churchill
What is BritishEnglish for “common sense knife control”?
‘derpy derpity derp derp’ is my best attempt at it.
‘derpy derpity derp derp, Guv’
Wouldn’t the cockney accent be “erpy erpity erp erp, Guv”?
Well those were built based on the successful program to stop corporal punishment. Those bins had the logo “Save a Kid, Spank Bank”
Come and take them Queenie. *flicks out pocket sword
I’m just waiting for a decade or two when I can churn out Sten guns from my 3D printer while laughing at these idiots.
I blame Brexit and Trump.
maybe Russians.
Nice.
I read your links!
*weakly grins through tears*
You should have called him a magnificent bastard first.
Seems that the French are faced with a similar mystery.
FRENCH COPS LOOKING FOR MOTIVE OF “I’M HERE TO DIE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH” TERRORIST
We have means and opportunity, but no clear motive.
Inspector Clouseau is on it.
Respect for MP Tobias Ellwood who was on: scene who began CPR on a wounded constable.
Did you see that his brother was killed in the Bali Bombing? He had to be thinking, “Oh no, not again!”
Really? I’m going to guess that no matter how hard he virtue signals, he’ll still be uninvited from a lot of cocktail parties.
No one needs a bad luck hoodoo fucking up their drinking parties with bad mojo.
Probably best if they sacrifice him to Odin, just to be safe.
The UK obviously needs a national debate on vehicle control.
That’s the point of self driving cars.
They make it hard to drive into London. But not hard enough, obviously.
Just wait. Soon, driving cars in major cities will be banned. When that happens, ask yourself which side of High Speed Rail History do you want to be on?
Not on the underside, that’s fer shore.
Probably the boxcar side.
“Chicago contemplates going NYC.”
Hey guys, we have a City that is pretty much insolvent and a credit rating just above ‘junk’. We’re losing population and our murder rate is out of control. What should we do to fix the problem?
Municipal IDs for illegal immigrants, of course
It’s so stupid it just might work at appeasing rich white liberals!
As long as, you know, they will stay away from the Gold Coast, Oz Park, Edgebrook and Lincoln Park. Well, except for Consuela – she is just the totes best housekeeper!
Who doesn’t love Consuela
I prefer Cynthia Escobar, myself.
I’ll be in my bunk.
What is the point of the bikini at that point? It’s just rude to wear anything if you’re going to go that far
I agree. If I ever see her wearing a bikini like that, I’ll will ask her politely to remove it.
Crap. ^ NSFW!
TOO LATE!
*Information Security comes for Swiss Servator*
Fundagelicals: Baking Cakes for Homos Now OK.
Pastor Lance Wallnau claims that magic cake cured homosexuality this one time. Unsure if results can be reproduced.
So now they’re OK with gay cakes? I can’t keep track anymore
I know, right?
Someone tell Gary Johnson ‘all is forgiven’
Too Aleppo’in late!
This is why we need more layers. Who now is able to narrow their gaze and the one that is supposed be narrowing the gaze?
apparently Slammer.
*narrows glaze*
Cakes aren’t baked gay, its all in how they are frosted.
^award winning euphamism^
Tag close attempt.
Good Edit Fairy Standing By…
There are good and bad in all of us. *looks at Jesse*
Cut them some slack.. they made it 7 whole words into the article before tying donald trump to it… that has to be a record for the year.
If cakes can cure gayness, then cupcakes can probably cause gayness. And by probably, I mean definitely.
I’m pretty sure that’s how science works.
I hear a long john doughnut cures lesbianism
Two girls one cupcake.
I’m guessing there’s a secret ingredient.
I’m going with LSD.
Not *the* Lance Wallnau?
At present he doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page.
So maybe this is another case of “media finds obscure guy saying weird stuff, ties weird guy to hate-figures [in this case Donald Trump and evangelicals].”
(Good thing the progs aren’t vulnerable to that sort of guilt by association, cough, Bill Ayers, cough)
The first article I saw on this was from the gay press. HuffPo was the most respectable site I could find, and that’s not saying much.
Little known fact – the recipe for the anti-gay cake is hidden within a verse from the Book of Ruth. That Ruth was one helluva baker.
Its called “Boaz sauce”.
I’d have expected it to be in Song of Solomon, since that’s the book where the Bible takes a break from the usual biblical stuff to have a round of sexual poetry.
Speaking of, since OMWC has already given his entertaining take on the book of Esther and its attendant holiday, maybe we should ask him for his take on Song of Solomon. That should be interesting.
probably the IRA.
He spends more time in the tanning salon, than any other IRA member I’ve seen.
It’s amazing too, when I see the sun I turn bright red for a few days. Then right back to pale as fuck.
You mean like this?
It feels like that, yeah. But apparently it’s also like deadpool, it just returns after a few days right back to it’s ugly former self.
Tanner than Peter King?
I expect you will see this ginned-up metric thrown around a lot by MSM pearl-clutchers.=
Some “just made up 5 minutes ago-institution*” publishes a poll showing “1-in-3 Muslims Lives in Fear of Trump Administration”
Maybe apropos =<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCM2rU7mFKk#t=135s" title=" you know what else 30% (or so) of Muslims believe” target=”_blank” > you know what else 30% (or so) of Muslims believe?
*About that Org
I know it should be relatively easy to dig up who their primary donors are, but i’m going to wild-guess that the Saudis/OPEC nations threw a lot of money at these folks (and CAIR et al) in the immediate aftermatch of 9/11 . Too lazy to look up now.
I think that was the most artisticly SF’d link I’ve seen in awhile.
I’m on the cutting-edge of fucking up links (and threading)
*Good Edit Fairy flees in terror*
40 years from now the good edit fairy tells his grandchildren about his younger days, but he always blocks the memory of this post in his mind.
That the holocaust was a hoax?
Ooh, that’s good. I wonder if that’s an easy stat to find….
BINGO
its even better – its only 29% (of UK muslims) think it *happened*
“Didn’t know what is was” is disturbing. I wonder what a poll of all Americans would show for that question.
If there recent immigrants shockingly Arabic education tends to avoid talking about Nazi atrocities.
It’s Trump’s fault! Trying to hide the sins of his hero.
That is a thing?
Muslims are the biggest conspiracy theorists on the planet, and a lot of it is just crazy bullshit.
Apparently 60% of Middle Eastern muslims thought that 9/11 was both perpetrated by the Mossad AND a victory for Islam
You want some classic Muslim crazy conspiracy bullshit, you look up the insane shit they say about Freemasons. It’s illegal in most states and major organizations actively promote them as a sinister cabal.
There’s a story floating around that at street level above the tunnel where she died is a crossroads that was a Roman sacrificial site to the Goddess Diana
I imagine some of these responses are of the “I know about the Holocaust but will feign ignorance so as not to give aid and comfort to the (((enemy)))” variety.
What’s with the Parenthesis? I’ve been seeing that around a lot lately.
Here, it’s a joke. Elsewhere on the internet it’s a code for the Jews.
Thank you.
Why do you believe the results of this survey are suspect?
I’d would repeat my frequent explanation of why “polling in general is bullshit”… (as someone who spent many years doing polling and other forms of consumer-research on behalf of corporations)
…., and why polling done by single-group advocacy organizations like the one who published this one is 10X more bullshit than normal-bullshit-polling…
….but i will save myself the trouble, and just say = Are you fucking kidding me?
What’re your thoughts about the mathematical transformations they do to the data to make it more “representative?” I’ve always been a bit skeptical of that, but don’t know enough about the specific things done to be able to critique it.
I don’t know if the specific methodology of this poll is flawed or not, it may very well be. But the results are not surprising to me, no. It isn’t surprising to think that members of a group which was specifically targeted for banishment, and whose meeting places were specifically targeted for state surveillance, by a particular candidate, would express some fear and trepidation when that candidate actually won.
Imagine if Hillary said that the government should “ban Libertarians” and that the state should be surveilling Libertarian meetups. If she had won, wouldn’t you have been at least a little bit nervous?
I don’t know if the specific methodology of this poll is flawed or not, it may very well be. But the results are not surprising to me, no. It isn’t surprising to think that members of a group which was specifically targeted for banishment, and whose meeting places were specifically targeted for state surveillance, by a particular candidate, would express some fear and trepidation when that candidate actually won.
You’re making a distinction between methodology and result where there is none. The point Gilmore is making is that it’s really easy for some fly by night outfit to take the exact sentiment you mention above, tailor some survey questions toward getting a sympathetic answer, and then bash people over the head with the bought-and-paid-for result.
I get what you’re saying. There’s probably some fearful sentiment due to Trump’s election. However, the aura of “authority” created by this bullshit survey is right from the media’s playbook. They use it to bash those “evil islamophobic alt-righters” over the head with “science.”
Chem =
all you’re saying is that the ‘study’ confirms your fuzzy preconceived narrative about how Trump is scary.
which is exactly what that sort of agitprop is supposed to do.
lets have a little thought experiment =
What if they used the exact same “data” (i hate calling polling that) and instead published a headline saying,
“2/3 of Muslims Totally Happy w/ Trump, Have No Fears”
And what if the group that published that new, inverted headline conclusion were the “CAUCASIAN AMERICANS FOR A AMERICANIZED AMERICA”
Would you be skeptical of the conclusion… even though the ‘data’ is exactly the same? would you see it as hopelessly-politicized garble simply trying to advance some shadowy-group’s interest?
Maybe you’ll start to see my point. Maybe.
I think its mildly amusing given that Dutch tourism relies heavily on “weed + women”. You’d think he should be thanking them for the wealth-transfer
Stay classy, Italy
Booze and Women?
What did they do with the rest of the money, waste it?
I used the same joke in the other thread.
Look, if I have to pay a royalty , I will.
I think it’s in the public domain by now, given that the joke probably goes back to like 10,000 B.C.
Nah, post Lucretia at the earliest.
“I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.”
…George Best
Never mind that alcohol abuse is worse in Northern Europe (and North America) than it is in the Mediterranean.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/alcohol/by-country/
Maybe that’s why he’s upset: he wanted to squander the money on booze and women, not send it to some foreigners for them to be the one’s having the good time.
*gives Swiss a bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich with swiss cheese and artisanal mayo*
You feed your own people to humans? Monster.
Life feeds on life – Maynard
Nice.
Never change, bacon.
I was going to link the Tool song but thought this was cuter. Go Blues!
Good choice.
Go Wild!
GO BLACKHAWKS!
Swiss,
You are one of the few we will save when Chicago is walled off from the rest of Illinois. Go BLUES♪!
That is…beautiful.
I have her on my instagram…I’ll be in my bunk with my phone.
I assumed we all posted from our bunks all the time.
Do you really want some NSA/FBI guy listening to you (and probably watching your face) while you defile yourself?
I imagine it will give him/her/xim/xer/xit nightmares so…yes. Bonus points if they cry and go blind.
I wouldn’t unless she paid me
Agreed.
Too skinny. Makes me wanna take her home, scrub her face and feed her a steak.
Tube steak.
Racists Are Stupid
You don’t need to come all the way to NYC to stab a black guy for being black, you dumb yokel.
Best part? He’s from Baltimore!
That’s like driving from Florida to Mississippi to kill mosquitoes.
To be fair he said he wanted to do it there for the media attention, but I don’t think a media desperate for racially motivated hate crimes would ignore a stabbing in Baltimore.
It’s almost as if they switched the names in the story.
England needs to DIVERSITY more.
Great news – Chelsea Clinton Gets Lifetime Achievement Award for Doing Nothing. Hope she keeps it up.
That’s like a Nobel Peace Prize, but the recipients are less bloodthirsty?
Maybe it’s for her peerless work on the board of directors of Expedia.
They’re getting a head start in building an image to get her electable.
Anyway. The day they handed Obama a Nobel prize for peace was the day awards jumped the shark.
I dunno. The Nobel Peace Prize had been a joke long before they gave the award to Obama.
but that one was very outlandish.
More outlandish than Arafat? Or Kissinger?
yeah, arafat was pretty bad.
As an EU resident, I say giving the peace prize to the collective EU was competitive for maximum derp. Although not marching on each other for fifty years here, is something of a first.
Nah, Arafat’s was still worse. He had a long record of being a murderous piece of shit at the time of his award while Barry hadn’t yet gotten his drone program up and operating at the time of his.
True.
One word: Arafat.
You’re a fat too.
the day awards jumped the shark
Happened Much earlier
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too–at least some Democrats have realized that their backbench leans more towards the decrepit side of things than fresh up-and-comers. I’m kind of surprised that there wasn’t an earlier effort to try and shove her into some position, but it seems that Chelsea runs more towards laziness than raw lust for power… and I wonder if her mother wanting it all to herself might have played some factor, as well.
“She thought it was a true honor but later learned that the Lifetime Achievement award was only given to people whose careers had died. ”
Give her an Opie!
So she’s going to die soon? Interesting.
YOU HAD ONE JOB
I suspect this sort of thing is highlighted mainly so that advocates of state-funded daycare *(read: “Universal Preschool”) can try and muster up support for their Teachers-Union-Expanding boondoggle. I’m not generally conspiratorial, but i see more and more of that sort of thing in the way the press strategically picks what stories to highlight.
Passes roll of tinfoil to Gilmore.
its not *that* conspiratorial. That’s what editors DO. Its just that the themes seem more apparent to me than they did in the past.
Probably because there are fewer themes at a time, so they stand out more. That was the problem with the Journolist and other such efforts at coordination: if it’s too obvious that it’s coordinated, people will notice and begin to doubt you. It’s much smarter to have a chaotic group of news stories tending in the same general direction than to have everyone on the same page.
Appropriate
Well I mean, when there’s a profit motive at work, these childcare corporations are going to cut corners and kids are going to end up getting hurt. I mean, they might even get raped! Just look at this case:
http://www.wfmj.com/story/19903047/felecia-beemer-pleads-guilty-to-raping-her-own-daughter
Oh wait, that was at the county children’s “services” office. Nevermind.
Peer-Pressure
The part of the story that seems to ruin the kid’s ‘i was reluctant and pressured into-it’ excuse is =
Ummmmm…..
I’m not sure courage is the word they really wanted to use there. Nerve, maybe, but plugging an unarmed teenaged girl in the back of the head doesn’t quite fit the description “courageous”.
You know, you could always just unfollow or block a person on Snapchat. Trying to kill them seems a bit… yeah.
You know what, I was going to dance around it, but meh. Kid’s lying his ass off.
I almost moved to within spitting distance of that town. Thank god I didn’t. I don’t feel like being in the next children of the corn movie.
The types of replies you get when this happens in Mormon town: It’s all that porn and video games that are at fault!
parents had multiple marriages and relationships
I miss old Mormons.
Heh.
Says more about the church service than it does about “young people these days” to me.
needs more “Jesus Christ is my nigga” raps to keep em entertained.
The Catholic Church already tried this.
Fuck guitar/flute combos at Mass. And Marty Haugen is going to burn in hell. 🙂
“And then I came off the top rope and gave the BIG ELBOW to Beelzebub!”
Say more about the parents than anything else to me. That’s just a basic decorum/respect thing.
Trump feels ‘somewhat’ vindicated after Nunes intel briefing
Of course they don’t mention a single detail about what he should feel at all vindicated about.
I am assuming everyone else in the media is silent on this because its not consistent with the narrative that Comey DESTROYED Trump’s “I wuz tapped” assertions?
Here it is
House Intel chairman: Trump’s personal communications may have been collected
BUT TOTALLY NOT ‘WIRETAPPING’ = THERE WERE NO WIRES, AND THERE WAS NO TAPPERY
what, like with a cloth?
Look, there weren’t NSA operatives wearing headphones hunched over in the back of a van parked a block down the street from Trump Tower so it’s just not wiretapping.
Cool story, bro.
Nunes: Trump transition members were under surveillance during Obama administration
“Members of the Donald Trump transition team, possibly including Trump himself, were under U.S. government surveillance following November’s presidential election, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) told reporters Wednesday.
Nunes said the monitoring appeared to be done legally as a result of what’s called “incidental collection,” but said he was concerned because it was not related to the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election and was widely disseminated across the intelligence community.
“I have seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the president-elect and his team were, I guess, at least monitored,” Nunes told reporters. “It looks to me like it was all legally collected, but it was essentially a lot of information on the president-elect and his transition team and what they were doing.””
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366
Not wittingly, then?
Oops! We accidentally listened to everything you said in private last year.
Yeah, but we’re all getting monitored. It’s in the social contract. If you’ve got nothing to hide – and Trump with his Russian deals has plenty to hide – what’s the problem?
I ‘m getting tired of all this winning.
win win win
that’s all the man does
It doesn’t hurt that the people he is up against make a plenaria look like Einstein.
a what ?
my google is broke
Do you know the score of the Cal game?
DA Schniederman’s Exxon Witch-Hunt Makes Progress
Soon they will learn of the dastardly plans of the oil company and how they conspired to destroy the planet. Or at least that’s how the media will spin Tillerson’s old emails.
Got enough links posted yet, G?
I was unaware that there was a byte-rationing in effect
Is there some some official objection, or is this just some daily-passive-aggressiveness we’re supposed to get used to?
•You will conform
HA! You failed to indent.
I noticed the dent in your head and didn’t want to traumatize you.
It’s the sweet,sweet taste of power, there is no overcoming it’s enchantment. It starts small, like picking one logo over another, and then snowballs into iron-fisted moderator cat-assing the oppressed commentariatti for over OT posting.
IS THAT A PLEDGE PIN!?? ON YOUR UNIFORM!?!??
I have been the victim of their tyrannical reign of terror. All I wanted was first on a post. Another time Playa laid a trap for me. The horror.*sobs*
No, manners. But go ahead and be yourself.
Barbarians…
The great ‘glibertarian writers war of 2017’ of 2017 has commenced. Next it will be about which cocktails are kosher.
“manners”
you’re kidding. Have i been posting with my diner fork instead of my salad fork as well?
Do you intend to eventually publish the full
Miss MannersSwiss’ Guide To Glibertarian Etiquette at some point…?….or are the fine-details of social-propriety kept close-guarded by the moderating-aristocracy? lest the unwashed ever stop being terrified of potential-transgression.
We’ve asked folks a few times in the past to kindly not post too many additional links. It’s not a hard and fast rule about numbers, but more of a general community standard guideline. Thank you.
You guys/gals ever think of posting a chronic poster daily link? They can link to each other…it will be magical. *goes back to eating crayons
Just pass out boxes of cornflakes. IF it cures chronic masturbation, it ought to work on chronic postin’.
I thought you ate bacon.
More than a bread-basket, less than a super-tanker?
Do you have a *number*?
2 links and that’s it. I have spoken. *jumps in frying pan and flies off*
I thought I answered that when I wrote this:
But let me reiterate: there isn’t a hard and fast number. But when one person begins to post enough that a mod believes it to be cluttering the comments, the mod has the right to ask that person to throttle it back. It isn’t a “transgression” or you would have gotten a cat-butt. It’s not even anything that pisses anybody off. Just a request. No need to be so aggressive about it.
“you broke the rule”
“what rule”?
“the one i just made up”
“but”
“jesus you’re being aggressive”
Did i miss the part where “the community” was asked what the guideline should be?
Or is that just the branding you’re applying to your “we make rules up as we go along”-approach?
He didn’t say “you broke the rule”, he asked (through strong implication) that you not post any more links today.
What are you a communitarian? The guidelines are set by the people who own the site, a very capitalistic and libertarian concept. There’s plenty of shit you guys say that we disagree with, but we don’t edit/catt-butt because we don’t want to be censorious. The link-spamming is something we’re trying to curb. Don’t like it, start your own site, that you will own, and you can solicit the readers for standards, or make up your own as you see fit.
Public conversation over. You can email to continue if you really feel strongly about it.
I doubt it. as long as you keep doing this “we don’t want to make rules, but we want the ability to enforce them” thing, you’re going to create more problems than you solve.
Can I sell my share of links to other commenters, like carbon credits?
serious question
what harm does it do ?
it seems to me that it’s just generates extra conversation aroumd here without taking anything away from someone elses links or threads
uneducated in the subject matter little ole me thought that extra traffic and clicks and such was what all sites craved.
like plants crave electrolites
OneOut: it’s not that we have a problem with people posting links. Certainly it invites some interesting discussions, and that’s just grand.
What we’re not a fan of is posting link…after link… after link… and maybe even replying to your own link posts with more link posts, all within maybe… fifteen minutes. There isn’t a hard and fast rule strictly forbidding it, but, as was pointed out above, sometimes there’s no accounting for manners or courtesy.
Hence the above request for an enumerated list of what Is/Is Not acceptable.
if you can’t point to any specific instance of ‘discourtesy’, i’m skeptical of your accounting-ability.
We don’t want hard rules that we have to enforce. We’d rather deal with things on a case by case basis and courteously request that people act in a way that we think is courteous to everybody else here. Why in the world would you think that’s a bad way to handle things, Gilmore? IMO, that’s about the nicest way to handle an issue on the internet. But it sounds like you think it’s a concentration camp atmosphere we’re imposing on you.
Seriously, man. Why the rageboner over something as nice as a “dude, take it easy on the links”?
Just a minute ago i merely lacked manners and courtesy, now i’m raging.
Forget i said anything. I’m sure your arbitrary enforcement of undefined standards while insulting those who desire clarity is going to be a hugely successful long-term approach. and it totally isn’t creating friction where none existed in the first place.
The “rageboner” comment came when somebody from the website asked you if you’d like to discuss it in an email rather than airing it all here. Your response to that is to dig deeper in and accuse us of being arbitrary assholes that hate to have people interact except in specific ways that we refuse to articulate.
I think we’ve gone out of our way to accommodate as many people as we can here. Why are you taking such great offense to someone kindly asking you to slow your roll when you posted five links out of 6 comments on the site that would look like a wall of text to a normal person, and he didn’t know when you’d stop if he didn’t VERY CALMLY AND COURTEOUSLY needle you about going links-crazy?
Jesus, man. Come on.
Furthermore, where is any “enforcement” happening? Did anybody delete your comments, cat-ass you or ban you? Because requesting that you slow your roll just a bit falls shy of enforcement, in my opinion.
Serious question: Do you feel like you’ve been penalized by what anybody here has said or done in the last two hours? Because enforcement implies a penalty by definition.
For the record = i never called anyone an asshole.
Everything else in that sentence was exactly right.
I think you would need to add a buzzer sound/sirens and a flashing light to achieve that effect.
if that’s a yes/no question = no.
I’m glad we were able to clear up that you think we only want people to interact in certain ways that we refuse to articulate.
I guess you might have a point except for the fact that nobody ever threatened to penalize you for flooding the links in quick succession with your own.
Come on, man. You’re a good guy but you’re blowing this waaaaaaay out of proportion.
We can discuss this by email if you’d like. You have my address, I’m sure. If not, I’ll be happy to give it to you.
LINK WARS, LINK WARS! Yeah! I was napping, but awoke to the sound of link wars!
What if the links become sentient and start linking other links?
What if you prefer patties to links?
Then you’re weird.
I had nothing to do with the backwards satanic lyrics.
what harm does it do ?
Undermining of authority.Their site their rules. Power is a tasty treat. My estimate – two weeks til the ‘First Great Cat-Butting’ occurs. Get popcorn
Should be under OneOut’s comment.
What is “cat-butting”?
When your post is replaced by an admin with an image of a cat’s anus.
NOOB!
When your post is replaced by an admin with an image of a cat’s anus.
That’s cat-butting? Oh. Well in that case ignore my previous post.
No matter how many links are linked, there will always be more links. There’s no end to them, literally and they just keep coming.
Some of them are good, and some are spam, Hyp. Only you are incapable of telling which is which, because you are not one of the anointed.
One time I almost finished the intertoobz, but then the derp expansion accelerated and I failed just like all those before me.
Dude, slow down. He just made a remark that you were posting a ton of links. It’s the same statement that was made to a couple other people in the last week or so. It’s not the end of the world.
Jesus, you’d think he told you that you are banned for a few days or something. He just asked you to throttle back a bit and you went ballistic. Like you want him to tell you to fuck off or something. Well I doubt that’s gonna happen, sorry to disappoint.
Look, there’s nothing wrong with posting additional links in a links post. But at some point it looks like a wall of text by the same guy and that can turn some people off. I know if I saw ten or 12 comments from the same person elsewhere and they were all links to something else with extended excerpts, I’d probably glaze over and just ass use the rest of the comments we’re going to be equally “spammed” by that person. I reckon most people would feel the same, but I do t purport to speak for them. We would just like to avoid that, ok?
Are we being unreasonable? I don’t think so. In fact, I think we’re being nice since we are always asking people to throttle back as opposed to setting a hard and fast rule and then telling them to pound sand because they broke it.
So pretty please, with sugar on it. Take it easy.
Sloop, the one reason I could get behind cat-assing someone who’s not a troll, is if they post a dancing banana gif. In fact if that happens and you need the commentariat to get in line and chant ‘CAT ASS, CAT ASS, CAT ASS!’ in unison before the cat-assing, I volunteer to organize that effort.
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I don’t know what else to call it based on the persistent, and growing in hostility, commenting you’ve made in response to a simple request.
Come on, man. You’ve instigated every one of the replies from the site operators. Especially after one of them asked if you’d like to discuss it in a different venue.
The beatings will continue until morale improves. These scum simply will not learn manners.
These scum simply will not learn manners.
Nobody called anybody scum. As for the manners part, of your host asks
You over and over and over again to take your conversation to another room, don’t you think it’s rude to keep refusing them the courtesy? Or do you think private property rights and courtesy don’t exist in cyberspace?
Were you on your smartphone when you wrote this comment?
Yeah, “ass use” was meant to be “assume”.
? i’ve literally said like 1-2 (simple) things and repeated them.
i didn’t realize that was an order.
the only point i’ve made here =
i think trying to impose behavioral standards which no one but the moderators seem to care about is just a bad recipe for perpetual nag-policing. (e.g. yesterday = “not too much quoted text!” – today = “not too close together!” – Tomorrow = ??) I think a better idea would be to respond to users when users think something is getting annoying, rather than lecture them about how they’re supposed to act.
sorry if i don’t feel like repeating that same point again in email. not sure what more there is to say about it.
Totally Unnecessary Footnote
The reason my links sometimes come in bursts = i have about 30 mins between wrapping things up in the office and going home. I quickly post a bunch of stories that catch my eye, head home, at which point i actually read things (in fact, i don’t have time to read stuff until around… now!)
Been doing that same rough pattern for like…. the last 7+ years? @ H&R.
henceforth i shall bundle them into a gigantic, link-laden SuperPost which provokes a whole new set of moderator no-nos. we will only learn the mysteries of The Code through perpetual chastisement.
Who ever said it was an order? It was a request. A request you ignored every time it was made.
You do what you feel is best, Gilmore. Nobody ever said there’d be a penalty if you did otherwise. One of the proprietors made a request. You took offense to that request and have voiced your displeasure repeatedly. That’s all that has happened here. Have a good evening.
lol and you keep telling me to stop blowing things out of proportion?
I took no offense, meant no disrespect, had no emotions other than bemusement and mild frustration at having to rephrase same point over and over.
a reasonable point, i thought, but i guess that’s a matter of perspective.
It’s the same statement that was made to a couple other people in the last week or so.
Started with me in a late-nite links thread and I had pretty much the same reaction as Gilmore, to be honest. I just didn’t think it was worth arguing over. I asked specifically about posting our own links in the link threads on my first day here and was told “It’s cool, post away, have fun” and then out of nowhere over a month later after I’ve been regularly posting links in the link threads, Swiss threatens to ban me for being insolent because I playfully paraphrased a well-known Mythbusters meme thinking he was kidding around when he chided me for posting too much.
I’d rather have a knowable standard “Don’t post more than this many links” rule than have to walk on eggshells and be lectured about what an unamnnered cretin I am every time I want to share something like a 5 year old kid visiting my grandma’s house. Which is why I haven’t posted any links since then have no intention of ever doing so again.
^^what Pat said there is sort of a case study on my point re: the inadvisability of the “looming-nudge moderators”
(formerly referred to as the “Cat Ass of Damocles”)
If you really have such a hard-on about policing a certain kind ‘propriety’, then make a short clear list of posting no-nos, and hold people to it.
Randomly accusing people of moral-failings/lack of manners/gaslighting them for merely “posting in ways which irk moderators” is not exactly a recipe for comity.
Sounds suspiciously like a FYTW answer to “why not more links.”
Would this be a bad time to post a link to my neighbors HILARIOUS Mommy-Blog? Anyone…
Tempest? Teapot? Rampant Piffle & Poop?
Gilmore – you are one of the commenters I migrated to here for (yeah, that’s an ugly construction_
I think you are really over-reacting here
You may have a point, but this is a dumb hill to die on……..Ive stuff online where……………..priniplce doesn’t even apply, you just have to suck it up
2) yeah, I didn’t start out numbering suck it!!!
Sloopy is a giant poopy head for telling Ted S that links are better than patties. Sad!
B) STOP ARGUING IN FRONT OF THE KIDS!!!!!!!! I JUST GOT HERE DAMMIT!!!!!!!
5) I will pretty much always side with might ‘cuz I like what y’all are doing with the site and SP and Riven have been exceedingly gracious and forgiving dealing with my retardation in logging in. Yes, I always want cake
OMG that was embarrassing please just shoot me now
Have the AGs’ emails been released yet?
at first i thought that was some snark, but then i remembered = who ordered the various AG’s to disclose their communications in the first place? CEI sued them… from that story (last august) it seemed as though their requests had been mostly denied.
About this thing NBA players needing rest. I don’t know what the science shows (if anything) but I can tell you two things. Why didn’t they negotiate this in into the CBA and would they plan to do so in the future?
AND….
Another reason why the NHL is better.
You try and tell Sidney Crosby or Alex Ovechkin or Brent Burns or Jonathan Toews or any other star to ‘rest’ for one game. Ga’head.
This in a sport that widely accepted as the most difficult to win a trophy in.
I’d rather tell Crosby to stop being such a dirty, cheap-shotting cunt. I’ll never disagree that he’s easily the best player of his generation, but goddamn do I despise him. He’s the spitting image of his mentor, Pepe LePew, that way. I’m glad he got his teeth knocked out by Kane.
Thank you.
(no my hatred for Crosby is totally not because I’m a jealous depressed Flyers fan how dare you say such a thing)
Hey, if the right ping pong ball had come up, I’d be here defending everything Sidney Crosby has ever done – the Rangers had just as much of a chance as the Penguins at the top pick. Instead, we ended up 12th and picked fucking Marc Staal, who needs to just retire and take his fellow snow angel machine Girardi with him. Those guys went into sudden free fall faster than Hans Gruber.
Don’t sugarcoat it
It’s about as difficult to win a trophy in hockey as it is to make most people south of the 49th parallel care at all about hockey.
/sips coffee
*drops gloves*
*wraps knuckles in foil*
Damn, take it easy.. you would have thought I insulted your shitty beer or something.
Zürcher Bierfestival, 7. bis 9. April
Ottawa, Toronto, and Montreal are all south of the 49th parallel, for what it’s worth.
As are Hamilton and Quebec City, after the Coyotes move to one of those.
Maybe they can finally win a cup for Canada after poaching a team that’s spent the better part of 20 years in the US.
*Checks Vhyrus into boards*
they don’t necessarily need it but it can’t hurt. Now football players need rest (and when i say football keep in mind I am not American)
Still mad about Liverpool’s fixture schedule over the holidays. I’m convinced it’s what led to the failures of January-mid February (before they finally rebounded)
Real leagues have a real winter break.
It is a basic human right to be able to get drunk on new year’s day
It’s cute that they have sports for people who can’t skate though, isn’t it Rufus?
A big Trailer Park Boys ‘yup’.
I played this instead. My mother thought it would be less violent than football. By the end of the school year, my legs were half bruise.
Yeah, my kid plays. I can’t believe how wonderfully violent it is. The goalies are insane, too. Hardly any pads, blocking 100 mph shots.
Great game.
I played behind the net. The massive hits I avoided, those are mostly the middies, but play on the crease long enough, and someone will roll through you. I recruited football linebackers to play D on our team. Our goalie was also a hockey goalie. that helped.
It’s like hockey, only in the air.
The X! My kid is a D and LSM.
I wish it would have been around when I was a kid. No way in hell I would have played baseball.
Yea, I had something like 3 assists every game. I was a qb for a while, so I had a good eye for the lanes/cutters.
LSM is a very valuable skill, I hope he knows that. I have no idea how that sport still exists, we had a lot of ex-baseballers.
I played it twice. And that was enough.
It was playing lacrosse I realized there was a ceiling for my manhood. Some guys are just beyond it.
So off to broom ball it was.
You actually are a curling broomer(?)? Please tell us all there is to know about it. *sets aside 2 minutes
I think just about anyone can play, they just have to find their position and role. There was a kid I played with that had to be a foot shorter than anyone else, but he was fast as hell. I’m lanky, but can pass accurately.
No. BROOMBALL you Philistine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomball
That was me in high school. Football, wrestling and lacrosse.
Did any of them call you in the morning?
Video of DOOMco.
It’s algonquin for blood sport.
Ha! Lacrosse is for people even hockey people thought were nuts.
Well, most people don’t have much use for skating because their back yard is not frozen over most of the year.
That’s what the stupid five-day break was for. Of course, most teams lost their first game after the break due to rustiness.
If you really want to give everybody a break, ditch the some-star games. They’re pointless and past their time now.
It’s just something the NBA needs to get proactive about. They release their schedule months in advance of the season; they need to ask their teams to plan, to the greatest extent possible, which games they will use for rest. Also, they need to cluster their marquee games – the night the Warriors played in San Antonio, they could have had, for instance, the Cavaliers playing the Celtics in Boston. The broadcast networks, knowing in advance that Cavs-Celtics will be at full strength and Warriors-Spurs will not, can broadcast Cavs-Celtics.
Easy. I own the team, and my front office experts I hired are telling me that our Stanley Cup chances are improved if we rest our guys here and there. If its in the long-term best interests of our team, I’ll sit them. If they don’t like it, tough. They’re my employees.
Yes, but they wouldn’t advocate for it is the point. Teams have ordered their players to sit but it’s rare. You’ll never hear a hockey player say ‘I need rest’. It’s not in the culture of hockey.
Though I’ve been hearing ‘they’re tired’ creep into the lexicon a little from coaches. We’ll see where it goes from here.
It’ll come from higher up. They want more scoring, so they might change how scheduling works in an attempt to get more rest.
It wasn’t part of basketball either until very, very recently. Like, within five years. In fact, a bunch of “old school” guys (read: retired prior to 2010) have been bashing these player-restings.
I agree it doesn’t look good. It especially doesn’t look good when it kills a big-time matchup. And it really especially doesn’t look good when Steve Kerr decides, apparently on the spur of the moment, to rest his best four players 21 hours before the Big Game. And I agree with the sentiment that teams should do this on their own home floor.
But really, who cares how it looks? If the idea is to maximize your chances for the playoffs, you gotta do it. It’s up to the league to incorporate this factor into their product. Maybe if the Celtics had done this with Larry Bird, he’d have played until he was 40 instead of 35.
So just have them play half the season or something. What’s the point then? Never mind about all the intricate business deals with the league and advertisers and fans who pay for the salaries. You can’t have it both ways man.
I get all that. And I admit to being a bit of a smart alec to get a rise.
I don’t doubt it makes sense. Hockey teams sometimes split goalies duties or don’t let their #1 play in back to back games. Happens in all sports and fans get when it’s done in the spirit of things.
But the NBA is on track to take it to another level.
Fuck that. If I shell out big $$ to see a game, i don’t want to see the bench.
Of course, the money from season ticket holders is really just a rounding error these days.
I have season tickets for the local soccer team and they actually call to check up on how satisfied I am and if there is anything they can do better. THats the nice thing about a small, local team, customer service.
An NBA team only has only 4 players that fans care about.
“Proactive”: the opposite of “Propassive”.
I thought Crosby ended up “resting” just about every season from some sort of hang-nail.
Go Bruins.
I’ve been to 3 Av’s games this season. Each time, the opponent had more fans in the seats.
The Bruins are on the brink of not qualifying for the playoffs in exactly the same manner they did it in the previous two years. I cannot stand it. It’s like having the same nightmare over and over again.
Despite Marchand.
RIGHT??!!
A little bit of history.
Yesterday they lost for the third time in a row. A week ago Bruins fans were excited about going far into the playoffs. Now it’s time to count by how many points we’re ahead of the Islanders just to qualify.
The games in Canada started pretty well, too.
They can play really well, sometimes. It’s brutal.
Yeh well I’m from Montreal do you ain’t gonna get sympathy from me.
Well… we have different standards in Boston, the city of champions.
Ha…love the passion.
Corey Perry – his contemporary going back to junior – is worse.
The season is way too long. They should play each team in same division twice, and then every team in the other division once. That’s what, 43 games? I just cut the season in half.
Then the playoffs do not need 16 teams making it, the sub .500 losers need to get the fuck out. Top 8 teams max. They also play 5 game series instead of 7.
CPA just fixed basketball. The league is making a lot less money, but it is now more watchable.
Now just get it approved by the owners…
hey!!
all this hockey talk is distracting from the links.
take it to PM.
*dons football headgear and scurries from the room*
Hey Glibs, Monday evening I got pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. cop decided he wanted to search my car and I said no. He called a K9 unit, and then lied about the dog alerting on my car. They searched my car, found nothing (b/c there wasn’t and has never been any drugs in that car) and sent me on my way.
I have been really pissed about this ever since. The while incident is on the cops dashcam, I would like to get the video of the dog and use it to sue the cops for searching my car illegaly. Im no lawyer, but is there any way to do this? Is there already precedent set that allows to cops to search whatever they want as long as they claim their dog told them to?
Fuck that bullshit. Sorry dude.
You could always put on a balaclava, a plate carrier, and your finest AK and head down to the local PD to file a complaint.
What could possibly go wrong?
It’s tempting vhyrus, I just don’t want to get gunned down in PD parking lot.
Sorry that happened to you, buddy.
Consult a local attorney. Precedents vary by state. Seriously, if you’re going to challenge this you need a lawyer.
“Thousands for defense, but not a penny for tribute.”
Florida vs. Harris made what they did permissible under the 4th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_v._Harris
IANAL but I believe the Supreme court gave Fido warrant issuing powers a few years back. So you’re SOL. Still sucks though.
or what SugarFree said.
You have a 6A right to that evidence. Good luck actually getting it.
In the more civilized lands of eastern Europe when cop stops you for a seat-belt they just want a bribe.
I’m not a lawyer, but as far as I can tell the supreme court has said that dogs alerting can give private cause for a search: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_v._Harris
I’d wait for confirmation from one of our resident lawyers, but I don’t think you have a case.
I’m no criminal defense lawyer but I think that ship sailed a long time ago. Request a jury trial for your ticket then get their entire file through discovery.
I don’t know if discovery would cover the search. nothing was found and no charges were filed. I was ticketed for no seat belt and no proof of insurance (my card was expired, I have insurance) I am defiantly guilty of those two things. I’m just really really pissed that they searched my shit with no justification. I told then they couldn’t, they brought the dog, and then either have an incompetent dog, a dog that alerts on command, or they lied about the dog alerting.
on a side note, it’s little shit like this that cops get away with all the time that allows the growth of our police state. Most people wouldn’t be too bent out of shape about this because they don’t realize just how much of our rights we have given up already. I think about stuff like this often, so it really pisses me off to my core when it happens to me.
a dog that alerts on command
Ding!Ding!Ding! we have a winner. And it may not even be an overt intentional command. I have seen studies that concluded that a handler can ‘cue’ his dog without even knowing it himself, dogs pick up all kind of clues we don’t even know we’re giving.
I got pulled over one night for going +5, and he was shining that flashlight all over the back of my swagger wagon (mine was red) looking for booze. asked where the party was I must be going to. it was 2am, and I had work in 6 hours. I just wanted to go to sleep.
Umm, I’m not a lawyer and don’t know what state you live in. But fining you for no insurance if you had insurance doesn’t sound right. You should at least have the right to prove you have insurance and not pay a fine for that.
Here in arkansas there are 2 different statutes. one fine for not having insurance and one for not having proof in your vehicle.
Basically, the cops know I have insurance. They have a record of it in their system. they get to collect money from me anyway because FYTW. They gotta be able to generate revenue somehow. Those new chargers don’t pay for themselves.
Ok, then. I see. I got pulled over once a long time ago without my license on me. And that was in the days before they could just look it up. They gave me the opportunity to show up to court and produce it, which I did. That was in OH. Another time I got pulled over in TN for a light out and I didn’t have my proof of insurance, but like you, I did have it, just not the card. After a little him hawing around, he finally let me go with a promise to fix the bulb.
e. I got pulled over once a long time ago without my license on me.
As far as I understand it, you are supposed to be assumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
When it comes to driving violations, my experience has been that one has to provide proof that they are not breaking the law before they can be exonerated.
I blame the populace for not understanding the difference between positive right and negative rights.
I understand why you’re pissed. I would be too. A dog being able to nullify your constitutional rights is just as blatantly unconstitutional as so many other bullshit things they do these days. It’s the citizens own fault for being so damn complacent about it. First we had them stripping our rights away while people were too busy watching dancing with the stars to notice. Now we have idiots actually defending it with such wisdom as ‘well, if you’re not doing anything wrong’, and the leftists cheer leading it on because gunz are bad and some speech is not right speech. The people get the government they deserve. We could stop all of this in no time if the will was there.
I agree with everything you said there hyp.
The price of liberty is eternal vigilange.
The “no proof of insurance” is a non-starter. Did he allow you to show him an electronic copy of a more current coverage card? Does the law not provide a grace period to show a card, because most states do. As for the no seat belt, he’s got you there if it’s a primary offense in your state. Some states it is only a secondary offense, and they are not allowed to initiate a stop for it.
Also, what gave him reason to ask you if he could search your car? Did he articulate that reason? Because it sounds like he hit you for a seat belt for that specific reason, which means if I were you, I’d demand a copy of his radio recording from 10 minutes before he started the stop until 10 minutes after it was done. He’s bound to say in there that he’s gonna find a reason to pull you over.
Lastly, demand a jury trial if that’s a possibility in your state.
The dog ‘signaled’ which was the probable cause. Not saying it isn’t bullshit, just clarifying.
But he had to have a reasonable suspicion to detain him. Find out from his audio if he said anything like “I think this guys up to no good, so I’m gonna pull him over.”
Also, he can only detain you for a reasonable amount of time. How long did he make you wait for the dog to get there after you told him no?
about 20 minutes on the dog getting there.
What was the probable cause for calling for the dog?
as far as I can tell, he wanted to look for drugs. there is nothing about me that screamed drugs! I suspect he was just fishimg. there was no probable cause. the guy was just an asshole.
Sounds like the state has a ‘failure to produce’ law. I’ve seen that before somewhere I lived, just cannot remember where. It’s bullshit, of course. Not nearly as bullshit as a dog being able to override your guaranteed rights.
He said he wanted to search my because he thought I looked agitated. I was sweaty from work (I had just left and it was a hot day and I work in a steel mill) I guess a guy who is generally irate when pulled over and sweaty is an obvious drug user.
Bullshit, a lot of people would be agitated in that situation.
In fact, one of the few times I’ve been pulled over, it was for rolling a stop sign. Now I don’t really know if I actually did it or not. I just got off work, Friday afternoon, pulled into the local carry out to get some beer.
When I pulled out the lot, there’s a stop sign. I know that I stopped long enough to look both ways and then pulled out and I saw the cop behind me. None the less, his lights come on and I pulled over.
So he tells me I rolled the stop. I didn’t say anything but was thinking, no I didn’t. So then he asks if I’ve been drinking to which I said ‘no’. Then he says… well, I don’t think you’re lying. WTF? Do cops just assume that everyone is always lying, no matter what? I just left work, completely sober.
Then he says I seem sort of nervous. Again, WTF? I said ‘I’m not nervous. I just got off work, it’s been a long day, it’s the weekend and I’d like to go home. I appreciate you not writing me a ticket for rolling the stop, it wasn’t intentional. Can I go now?’. So then he let me go, but by that time I was agitated.
He’s got to do better than that. Agitation is not reasonable suspicion. Glassy eyes, bloodshot eyes, slurred words…those could be considered RS by a reasonable officer. Agitation can’t be, I don’t think. Not on it’s own.
I’d start by filing a complaint with the CRB through an attorney and requesting that they review the dashcam, and any audio immediately preceding and following the encounter with you. They’ll probably do so, just so they can tell you to pound sand. But if there’s anything in there that’s damning, they’ll start to work to get you appeased right away.
That’s good advice. I can swear to being stone sober. The cop was a young guy. My hair is kinda long. I’m sure he thought he was gonna bust him a dirty hippie.
“My hair is kinda long. I’m sure he thought he was gonna bust him a dirty hippie.”
Funny story, well it’s funny now.
When I was in my teens and early 20s, we all had long hair, most of us anyway.
So I had just moved into my first very own house. I was 19. My cousin was 17 and had come down to stay with me for a weekend.
He just went to the store to get some soda or something. I missed the whole thing, but when he pulled into the drive he was followed by a cop. The cop walks up to him and says ‘Hey hippy, where’s the dope!?’. Kid was sort of freaking out to say the least, but didn’t have anything in the car.
I guess the cop hassled him for a few minutes, checked his license and registration and left after saying something like ‘I’ll be keeping an eye on you, hippy, if I see you round here anymore!’. Lol.
As someone who dealt with a much higher level of bullshit from police and then was verbally threatened after the fact when I attempted to seek justice, I would let this go. You weren’t arrested or jailed, your stuff wasn’t stolen, and your car wasn’t impounded. Unless you want to get pulled over every week for the rest of your life I would just let it go. Nothing good is going to come of you raising a stink over this.
i understand that. I am tempted to let it go and may do so, but i dealt with a lot of bullshit from the police when i was a teenage. I had no resources then. It’s a little different situation now. Plus i have always told people that if more people stood up for their rights rather than just accepting having them violated, then it would be harder for the police to violate them. I’d feel hypocritical of i didn’t stand on principal here.
I’d try for that footage/ audio Sloop pointed to. I too might end up dropping it, but if you have the means to, please do it for those that don’t. That’s who loses every day. There’s a whole class of people who get fucked by the police who can’t afford any recourse. The only time they win is when the police happen to go too far and beat them up. That takes years, and might not be worth the injury.
Well, your rights were definitely violated. By a dog, none the less. But it looks like it’s going to take the Supreme Court overturning a previous precedent to get it straightened out. Not an easy one for sure. I have to agree with Vhyrus on this one, I’d let that go. Maybe challenge them on the insurance thing if possible.
aimed at doomco, because threading is kinda fucked up this far down.
This Incident was a minor violation of my rights. However I feel that it is indicative of a systemic problem in our police force. to whatever extent I’m able, I will fight this. not so much for my sake, but for the sake of the principle. This isn’t so much about me but about everyone whose rights are violated.
Very true, Sug, but it’s possible that state laws have been interpreted to give him more protection. Unlikely, but possible. IANAL
Having said that, lawyer up because a local attorney will know exactly what questions to ask to ensure that they followed procedures. A good criminal defense attorney, preferably one with DUI and drug experience.
If all else fails you can always pay the ticket in pennies.
I assume the dog swore an Oath or made an affirmation.
*barks on cue*
The while incident is on the cops dashcam, I would like to get the video of the dog and use it to sue the cops for searching my car illegaly. Im no lawyer, but is there any way to do this?
Yes, but it’s effectively martyrdom on your part. The chance of you coming out of such a thing “ahead” is really, really low. As a lawyer said to my parents (in a medical malpractice situation): “If there are no dead children or maimed grandmas, it’s not worth the effort.”
One thing you could do is reach out to one of those advocacy non-profits and see whether they’re interested in throwing some resources behind you. I doubt they’re interested in going on a fishing expedition, but it may be worth a try.
Here is some directory you could try looking at.
Thanks for the link. I don’t necessarily care about coming out ahead. I really just want to send a giant fuck you to the Barling Arkansas police department and the Sebastian county sheriff’s department.
After some more google-fu, I haven’t been able to find much of use. I’d recommend reaching out to the ACLU and The Rutherford Institute to see whether they have a local affiliate that would be interested in your case.
IMO, this type of case is right up their alley, but the lack of up front proof is going to be a major hurdle to clear in getting them to show interest.
Lach, I’m sorry this is coming late, and I can only hope you see it. For the seat belt PC issue,follow the money. I don’t know the date on that report, and the change may not even be in effect yet, which would probably open up another issue if it is not.
As far as what Sloop has said, I won’t discourage you from obtaining the recordings, but I highly doubt that they would have anything in them that would shed any light on why he stopped you in the first place. Now, his copy of the citation(s) may have notes, especially for their racial profiling reporting. But, there’s no guarantee.
If you go this route (attorney/FOIA/etc), make sure you are prepared for any POP* fallout. Certainly not endorsing it happening, or saying it will. Just that it does. I hope you can get answers, and would love it if you got the ball rolling on any kind of police reform.
*Pissing Off Police
I believe that video would be subject to FOIA. Have an attorney request it.
Have you made any headway in sueing the PD that assaulted you mom?
Sorry. You should find a lawyer.
You need some kind of device that
dribbles ammonia around the perimeter
of your vehicle as the K9 approaches.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article140117433.html
Prosecutors: Man found nude, high on PCP killed two people after minivan rap battle
I don’t know where to begin on this…
Minivan-rap is my favorite genre of Hiphop. Dodge-Caravan-Crew, represent!
“and seemingly high on PCP”
ie, acting violently while in a state of undress without offering motive.
I did not know Crusty lived in Kansas City. I thought he was in Florida.
Crusty lives in NY I think.
Was he naked before or after the minivan rap battle (band name, etc.)?
The distinction is important.
Was the rap battle in the minivan? Or was it about minivans? Or did the PCP create a hallucination of two minivans in a rap battle?
Not to the authoritah it isn’t. The formula is easy.
Naked man kills two = high on PCP.
Acosta = planning to do everything Puzder was going to do (and more)
Which is basically what i thought when they nixxed Puzder. The only reason they senate tries to block these nominees is to give their voters the impression that they “did something”. The reality is that they end up approving someone else who will simply carry out the same agenda. Bullshit theatrics.
Well, good for the Trumpet, if true. Of course it’s completely understandable why they’re doing it. They have no real power to stop much of anything, but they have to keep their minions posting dancing banana gifs on the toobz.
A soaring number of Muslims, many of them refugees from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, are converting to Christianity, breathing new life into Europe’s once floundering Christian churches. The Muslims are flocking to various Christian denominations, experts said, including becoming Protestants, evangelical or Catholic.
Interesting.
It’s an underreported fact that Africans are converting to Christianity at a rate of 4 to 1 higher than they convert to Islam.
Aren’t a lot of Latin Americans converting to Pentecostal branches of Christianity and Mormonism?
Few years old, but it was a thing at one time at least:
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/deaconsbench/2007/08/a-catholic-who-became-pentecostal-here-ive-changed.html
They call those ‘evangelicals’.
Not the mormon ones.
If you’ve ever spent time in Christian-dominant Africa or hung out with immigrants from there they’re the most Jesusy people you’ll ever meet (I personally edited a book on science by a Nigerian creationist).
I bet that was fun. Has your eye stopped twitching yet?
It’s the weirdest fucking book because his entire thesis is “science is great, it’s all about the curiosity God gave us leading us on the path of discovery and enlightenment, I want humans to travel the stars and shit, but evolution is bullshit”.
Here it is, stupidly overpriced.
The Mullahs are gonna need wrist reconstruction surgery after signing all those fatwas
“I get to believe in the Great Sky Man, and I get to eat bacon and the holidays are better? I’m in!”
They get bacon and booze, but they have to give up the opportunity for multiple wives, so there is a bit of a trade-off.
“A lot better than ham, isn’t it?”
They’ll just have to learn how to have mistresses, like civilized Christians.
Who the hell needs 2 people bitching at you to take out the trash?
That’s why Islam also instructs you on how to properly discipline these ungrateful wenches…
And booze.
After Failed Cabinet Bid, Puzder Leaves Restaurant Post
AT&T pulls some of its Google ads over extremist videos
I presume “extremist” ≠ “Obama”?
Nonestablishment = extremist
Great, YouTube is going to be nothing but puppies and kittens videos in short order if this actually takes hold and other companies start doing it.
IOW, it will go away and they’ll be another video sharing service.
Who the hell sees any ads anyway?
With like 2 browser plugins and an up to date hosts file, the internet can be virtually ad free.
Reminds me of a site I visited today from a link somewhere else of course. It popped up an ad which said ‘We get it, you’re not here to view adds and for only this amount monthly, you can view our site ad free!’. And my thought was ‘no, you don’t get it, I don’t see any ads and I’m not paying you to view anything here’.
So I can be forced to pay for every single website I go to? So if I want to watch YouTube videos, I’ll be forced to subscribe to YouTube Red? I’ll take short annoying ads (most of which you can skip after 5 seconds) over paying for every single site I want to visit.
How did Florida Man get his python a work permit in Dresden, Germany?
*gets out of airboat*
You know, I’ve had about enough of these vicious stereotypes. I’m tempted to write a column for your little blog about normal Floridians who just want to run their tourists stands by US 301.
I’d read that.
But I read a lot of things.
::goes back to Horizon tips & tricks::
You’d be amazed at what you can by on the roadside here. It’s like an Arab market, just hotter…and more depressing.
Well look at what the cat dragged in.
Panther, but yeah.
Relocated Texas mountain lion.
(Pedant)
I was tempted to stay away. I’ve successfully remained ignorant of world events since leaving, what do you people call it, the STSNBN?
The south is a strange place. I know Florida is meant to be even stranger by comparison, but I was seriously taken aback the first time I stepped into a gas station and found I could buy: 1) usual gas station/convenience store stuff, B) Cell phones and plans…?, III) bongs and hookahs, and lastly) pets, of all things
Hey lady! You wanna buy a sugar glider!?!
/seriously they were selling them at the county fair for$300. WTF.
When I lived in SC they sold those little fuckers FROM A STAND IN THE MALL!
I mean… Yes, I do…but not from a roadside stand or something!
III) bongs and hookahs don’t forget the packets of “spice”!
Alabama. Dune. Deserted State.
He who controls the South, controls the universe! Muad’Dib, hold my beer and watch this!
our local convenience store didn’t have pets, but they did have movie rentals, bait and tackle, and… construction equipment rental (they had an old backhoe and an old dozer).
(I grew up in rural Arkansas near a large lake (Bull Shoals))
“Normal Floridians”
Pick one.
*places catfish in JT’s mailbox*
8 months of the year it serves as a refrigeration unit, so works for me.
Epic Wheel of Fortune Fail
I saw this at the gym and I couldn’t believe it either. How this guy could get it wrong.
Maybe he grew up watching late night Cinemax/HBO movies?
Worse than N _ GGERS?
Naggers?
That still crackers me up!
Obligatory:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VaBNCBXwiN8/hqdefault.jpg
Obligatory.
I saw Lipton C_p of So_p on the Wheel.
Of course, he read it as Lipton cup of soap.
The Truth About New York City’s Elite High Schools
TLDR: NYC’S elite high schools have an inherently color blind, purely-skills-based admissions test, and Asians outperform white people, but the test is racist somehow anyway so the NAACP is filling a lawsuit.
I say draw lots instead of testing
Can we just give minority families each a gallon of gas and a box of matches and let them burn down all of the cities like they so desperately seem to want to do?
Charles Murray is an academic who spent 3 years in Southeast Asia in the peace corps, married a Thai woman, and did research that showed on average, Asians have higher IQs than white people. He also is called a white supremacist.
Given his history, it should be obvious that he’s an Asian supremacist.
so the low number of black and Latino students who passed is given but not the number of those who took the test
curiouser and curiouser
We should all take a minute to say a prayer for a fine man, a giant among men, who apparently suffered a heart attack yesterday.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/22/david-brock-media-matters-founder-and-clinton-ally-suffers-heart-attack.html
Another one to fuel the conspiracy theory…
The Russians are responsible somehow?
I am skeptical = he had his heart removed in a Clintonian loyalty-ritual many years ago.
I posted on The Other Site a few months back that the Agorist Writers Workshop was taking submissions for their satire-themed libertarian fiction anthology, and at the time one of you said that SugarFree would submit and the AWW would fold. Well, I don’t know if it was SugarFree’s doing, but whatever was submitted was so horrifying that they decided to cancel the anthology. Submissions are now open for a new anthology, this one fantasy-themed. Details are here if any of you writerly types are inclined! Try not to scare them away this time 😉
Hey, if they can’t handle the Doomcock, that’s on them.
Congratulations, SF!
Print and frame that post, because I don’t know how your career could get any better.
I’ll have you know that I’ve been rejected by far more prestigious publications than that!
Oh, I’m sure, but shutting a competition down?
That’s gold.
Tee hee, he said “handle the Doomcock”.
I’ve got money that the HeinleinxAynRand S&M fanfiction is what did it.
From the German Turkey article:
““One worrying scenario is that if Turkey becomes a less reliable buffer, European leaders will have an incentive to let Greece play that role,” Professor Geddes told FRANCE 24.
Humanitarian groups say that scenario would be catastrophic for the migrants stranded in Greece, where refugee camps like Moira on the island of Lesbos have been described as “open air prisons”.”
Also, the women are inexplicably uninterested in Turkish playas with game.
Roosh V. hardest hit.
He’s lit the Longtorso flare! *runs*
Longtorso seems either unaware or unwilling to come over here. He still posts on the Other Site, he’s starting to look more sane by contrast, which is impressive.
“He hasn’t received an invitation to come here, you fucking half-wit. What happened to you, John Titor? You used to be one of the smarter posters at Reason.”
*Takes red pill
one of the smarter posters at Reason.
That was your first mistake! *eats paint off the wall*
I hoped you’d recognize that as mocking John. My key points:
1) “fucking half-wit” – a staple of John-speak
2) Last I heard, he believed Glibertarians was invitation-only
3) “You used to be smarter/better/funny, what happened?” is another club in John’s bag
I did NOT attempt a John-O, however. I don’t think they’re possible to do consciously.
Fully aware, just contributing.
I remember the way those migrants acted when they first started showing up on Lesbos. An open air prison is too good for them.
Try to read a couple before going OT and posting a dozen of your own, yes?
Fuck off, slaver!
From the other site: Pepsi leaves Philly.
Out of curiosity… do they refer to us as ‘the other site’ as well, or are they less polite aboot it?
They’re too busy getting 31 comments per hour to worry about us.
‘Sparky’ was making some snide remarks, and Dan O./Mary was her usual batshit self. Mostly, what I’ve seen is that there’s a lot of ‘Wow, not many comments here now.’
Perhaps my memory is foggy but I seem to recall Sparky being much more reasonable in the past.
I don’t think they acknowledge our presence. To do so would damage their fragile cosmo feelz. But I did not a few days ago that they stole a term that one of us here made up, can’t remember who, but they stole ‘Trumpocalypse’.
“But I did
notnote”You Didn’t?!?
That tax was one of the reasons I picked my apartment. Right on the city line, with a grocery store across the street that is in Merion instead of Philly. Good on Pepsi.
You could totally make a killing selling loose untaxed soda cans… what could possibly go wrong?
+1 Choked to death on the sidewalk
Philly PD doesn’t choke people to death. They may firebomb my apartment complex though.
It sounds like from the link that they’re keeping certain package sizes – not pulling out of the city entirely.
probably keeping their 16-20oz bottles, which are the most profitable/expensive per-unit – or at least *will* be, once they pull all the other options out.
Soon we’ll be drinking out of the 8oz cans they have in Europe.
Yeah, I probably should have qualified that.
What was great is that the shoppers they quoted were supporting them, although I’m sure there are plenty of derptastic wonders who think it’s all an evil ploy by KKKorporashuns.
Filthy imperialist mouthpiece China Uncensored promotes lies about glorious workers’ revolution.
Not sure if trolling, or just dumb.
It would have been better to wish Lawrence Taylor luck by that phrase.
It’s been 23 years, it’s offically funny now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=612DEoTFH0o
She didn’t break her leg though… Speaking of the 1994 Winter Olympics, Oksana Baiul…would.
Is that your final answer?
Maybe at the time of the Olympics, but she used to train at the SkateNation by me around 1999-2000. I worked at Starbucks at the time, and she came in all the time. Girl looked ROUGH. She was an alcoholic by then, i believe.
Let’s not judge before all the facts are in…
Nunes (R-Calif.) told reporters that Trump was one of various members of the Trump team whose communications probably were intercepted through “incidental collection,” or surveillance of the communications of foreign nationals who may be in contact with or talking about U.S. citizens.
The chairman would not answer the question of whether anyone associated with the White House was the source of the new information.
“From what I know right now, it looks like incidental collection,” Nunes said. “We don’t know exactly how that was picked up, but we’re trying to get to the bottom of it.”
He added that “it’s possible” that Trump’s personal communications were captured that way by the U.S. intelligence community.
Skimming through the article, I’m not sure who’s covering up what, but politics is somehow involved.
Also, “Toldja so!”
The really good news is that this seems to be moving in the direction of exposing how much the US govt spies on its citizens. Some careerist in the regular bureaucracy will take the fall for this and the deep state will chug along. Murm, murm, murm…
This is my shocked face. I’ve tried to explain to people around my office that by base statistics the government probably spied on Trump. And that the denials saying they didn’t have ‘spy on any hardware in the tower’ are just lawyers denials, pretty much admitting that they were collecting conversations through the various exchanges and servers which do not live in the tower. You know, the ones belonging to all the telecom that we all use… the volume of collections are so high that they likely couldn’t sort through them fast/detailed enough to give an unqualified no.
From now on, every time a politician or reporter claims trump is wrong, you can be damned sure he is 100% spot on.
A libertarian website where not only are the content providers honest-to-goodness libertarians, but the commenting software actually works. Imagine that!
Every old joke is a new joke to a newborn: this reaction of Hillary Clinton’s is just so goddamn inappropriate.
I mean, I’m not that cynical, but even if I was I’d have the good sense to be Solemn and Dignified during such a time.
Sorry for putting up another link, but:
Court records describe the merciless and brutal assault by both Montano and Sanchez, who allegedly raped the young girl multiple times, vaginally, orally and sodomized her, as they spoke to each other in Spanish. Blood and male fluids were recovered from the scene by a forensic expert, court records show.
Yeah, they DP’ed her. Pretty bad.
My aunt, uncle, and grandmother live right down the street from there. Course none of them are in high school so I guess they’re slightly safer.
Jesus fucking christ.
I think a wood chipper is too good for these ‘kids’.
Also, how bout we relocate them to DC so they can go to school with Obama’s daughters.
That’s the kind if shit that gets Lynch mobs fired up.
Because why wouldn’t we do that?
Science!
how many does that guy have?