Welcome to Straffinrun Tours. Do you want to go around and see some of Japan’s oldest and most visited shrines and temples? Experience the subtle beauty of a tea ceremony? Try your hand at the wondrous art of ikebana? Yes? Get the f*** out of here because you bore me. Use Google and save yourself a couple grand. My tour is focused on exposing you to the concept of 本音 (pronounced honne) and 建前 (tatemae). For that we will need to meet and watch real Japanese people doing mundane things in their daily lives.
Have you ever laughed at a bad joke your boss or customer has made because the social situation called for it? If yes, you have practiced tatemae. The Chinese characters 建前 translate literally as “constructed front” and can be seen as your social persona that we put up to keep us from beating each other to death. Some people say it’s basically lying, but, well, they’re idiots.
Ever fantasize about slamming you boss’s head into the corner of his desk after hearing his bad pun for the 26th time? Well, that would be honne. 本音 literally means “real sound” or, in other words, what you are really feeling at the moment. Hopefully, you practice some impulse control and don’t run around calling a spade a spade. It can be a bad idea. Especially in Compton.
So now that you’ve gotten the basics of honne/tatemae down, let’s find out what the little Nipponjins are up to. First stop on the tour is a Pachinko parlor. Noisy, smoky, and filled with dejected people gambling. The game itself is ridiculous, but we’re not here to be bedazzled with blinking lights and digital breasts. Over there! Don’t look, but look at the woman in her 60s, wearing the tiger pattern blouse. Her machine just went “reach” which means she has two of the three numbers necessary to win. Will she? Zannen (too bad). She lost. Did you see her reaction? She pawed at the screen as if to say, “Oh, you’re a bad boy.” Now watch the man in his 40s, wearing the suit. His machine just went “reach”. Zannen. He lost, too. Yet his was a stone-faced reaction despite having a 70% chance of winning \10,000. The tiger blouse woman showed you her honne and the man, his tatemae. You’ll notice about 90% of the players react like the man and 10% like the woman. That’s Japan. You don’t show your emotions in daily, public life unless you’re a freak.
Let’s get out of here and grab a drink. I know a pub down the street. Yes, it does say “Pub,” but remember that donut you bought at the bakery in the station this morning? It had “Donut” written on the wrapper, but it had eggplant inside. This is not your mother’s English. “Pub” to them means a small bar where, usually, a youngish gal, the one-san, and an oldish gal, the oba-san, fawn over you and you pay through the nose for the pleasure.
“Aah, sutoraifeen-san. Hisashiburi, desu ne” (long time, no see). The oba-san greets us as we slide into our stools, her 48-year-old bosom defying gravity due to the hiked up obi (sash) of her kimono. She pours us two Jim Beam Ryes on the rocks from the bottle with my name on it that she pulled off the shelf behind the bar counter. Talk to her. She is a master of tatemae. Your jokes will be hilarious. You look like Bradley Cooper, and where did you ever find that sweater? Goodwill? I’m not familiar with that brand. Is it a boutique on Rodeo Drive?
Here’s the rub; she doesn’t care about you other than you’re a paying customer. She thinks you know that, but you see how good you feel regardless? It’s dishonest honesty. The true masters of tatemae don’t trick you into believing what they are saying is true, but rather allow you to bathe in the respect they are showering you with. This is not your Western, “You look great. Did you lose weight?” type of flattery. It’s respect, so soak it in.
Unless you want to drop a mortgage payment, I suggest we get out of here. Hopefully, you’re beginning to see from our experiences at the pachinko parlor and the “pub” that honne/tatemae permeate Japanese consciousness. You get polite, speedy, and competent service at the convenience store because to do otherwise would be disrespectful of not only you, the customer but also of the clerk themselves.
So when you get back to The States and hear about “trigger warnings” and “micro-aggressions,” think about honne/tatemae. Are the sensitive souls pushing this nonsense because they want a more respectful discourse, or are they simply forcing people to yield to their superior wisdom? If it were truly about being respectful, they would show their tatemae and keep their petty grievances in the honne box. Running around, pointing out trivial offenses is the exact opposite of what honne/tatemae is all about. And for all the faults the concept has, it does provide a shield which can insulate you from nutjobs. The next time you’re accosted by a pink-haired slob for using the wrong pronoun, just remember the oba-san from the pub and tell her, “Those black yoga pants really do smooth out the ripples in your thighs.”
Is this why i don’t see many japanese doing “ostentatious outrage” on Twitter? or do they have their own public shaming-mobs
*i really should read the whole thing before commenting. someday.
There, there. Premature commenting happens to a lot of people.
I comment in a notepad before I go on line. Helps me last longer.
(thinks about baseball, falls asleep)
Reference to this? :p (or is that just a common, even-older joke?)
yes, and yes.
the expression ‘think about baseball’ pre-dates woody allen’s routine
mine is just ‘baseball is boring’, his version is that its more interesting (to him) than sex.
I got to the Japanese MILF part and was sold. Good article
Bah, humbug.
*retreats into cave*
Ever been to a snack bar?
“Ever been to a Japanese snack-bar, Joey?”
I hadn’t ever heard the term until earlier this week during one of the podcasts I listen to. This guy recommended visiting one if you’re ever in the country.
Go listen to some drunk salary man sing “Country Lode” to Karaoke? No thanks.
Humbly requesting more information on a Japanese bath house. In all the anime I’ve watched (which is really not that much), this is the most interesting thing I’d want to experience in that culture–that I’m aware of. An open air bath house where nudity is not just encouraged but mandatory? Sign me up.
Do not sign me up to eat a live octopus. I will punch you.
Perhaps zombie squid is more to your liking?
You know… as someone who even likes tentacles… that made me uncomfortable. Lol. Sick.
Your interest in Japan now makes sense.
The more you watch, the sooner you will realize that in Japan, the octopus eats you.
So the whole culture is built around vore? … Might have to visit sometime!
Riven is grossed out…not clicking.
in Japan, the octopus eats you.
In a lot of the anime I’ve seen linked here and ‘somewhere else’ the eating tends to be more of a give and take kind of thing.
Just ask the fisherman’s wife.
The practical act of using a bath house (sento) , or the vibe?
The culture is all about social restraint, so you don’t point and compare genitals, indeed, when exposed, you’re expected to “not notice”.
The practicalities of visiting a sento or onsen (natural spa) are in Wikipedia and they’re quite detailed notes. I’m sure even you can find that :/ It’s SFW
Japanese penis is so small..
I did attract some attention in Tokyo when I was there in the early 90’s, and much more youthful.
How extravagant I was, throwing away opportunities like that. Someday they would be scarce.
I briefly lived in a nudist colony, so the whole public nudity thing is a non-issue for me.
Definitely just the practical art of using a bath house. Sounds like fun to me!
Says the feisty little imp who got creeped out by an old man (clothed) sitting next to her.
Uh huh.
I’m sure you were just sitting there, 6. Just admit it, what did you do?
… let me show you on this doll …
Maggie McNeill has you covered.
“That was an excellent movie” he said, until he remembered that the title here was Dangerous Beauty
After I climbed Fuji-san I went to an onsen. I recommend it, but just so you know they separate girls from boys.
That’s fine with me, too. I just think the whole experience sounds neat.
If you didn’t live out in the boonies, there are bath houses in the US. And I don’t mean the ones down in the Castro district either.
Do not sign me up to eat a live octopus. I will punch you.
Plan B it is then.
Titor… why you do this to me!
I’m going to say…research.
Yes. Research.
Hey, just wanted to throw out a little comment. A few days ago, there was a slew of Jew-related posts and for the next two days, everything I read was colored by that. As I was browsing through my on-demand choices, I kept reading movie titles as The Jew of the Nile or Henry and Jew or Jew and Julia.
All I’m saying is, when you idly post content, be aware of the wide-ranging implications for people in the real world.
Thank you for your consideration on this matter.
Thank jew for bringing this to our attention.
Jew were most kind to do so.
Jew know, this could have some long term effects.
Every time he makes comments like that, Hebrews up all kinds of trouble.
Are you saying you’re some kind of… antisemite who would prefer not to read about (((Jews)))? For shame.
No, I prefer to not feel like an anti-semite: seeing Jews everywhere, even where they’re not.
Visit the Bacon Bazaar and Boar Barbecue.
Oh wait, that’s owned by a (((Lapsed)))
So you’re saying Jews can’t be world conquerers if they want to? Everyone else gets a try, but not the Jews?
Wait, what?!? The word “Jew” inside the triple-parentheses?
Is that some kinda ultra-Jew (perhaps Jew²) of which I’m not aware?
I think it’s a legendary pokemon.
Basically, a legendary, *shiny* Pokemon. So. (((Pretty fucking serious.)))
Jew 2, Electric Hebraloo.
I have probably traveled and lived abroad more than most. Japan was the only place where, the more times I visited and the more time I spent there, the less I understood it. Those people are fucking aliens.
I thought the aliens fucked them. Tentacle porn, amirite?
Only the Japanese could invent tentacle porn.
BTW, my most uncomfortable professional moment was when I had to explain to my boss what “bukkake” meant.
You *had* to explain to your . . . aw, fuckit. Never mind.
By ‘explain’ you mean ‘show’ right?
Please tell me you worked for a woman.
Sadly, no.
Was it because you used the word? Otherwise I would just have feigned ignorance.
Of course it was me.
Just tell him it’s a noodle dish.
*begins retching*
Cream of Sum Yun Gais, on ramen. Nom nom nom
“my most uncomfortable professional moment was when I had to explain to my boss what “bukkake” meant”
Reply, deadpan, that it means “on top of”, and refers to a type of ramen soup.
Seriously. There’s at least one Japanese restaurant in Honolulu that serves bukkake ramen.
Damn. Scruffy beat me to it.
Just look at those narrow almond eyes. Know what that reminds you of? That’s right. Greys.
Milton Friedman said the pretty much the same thing. I agree, inscrutable.
My 4 months in Japan disabused any ideas I might have had in the early 90’s about how Japan was going to rule the economic world. And don’t get me started on Weaboos.
Do’t get me wrong – I enjoyed that posting, but it was somewhere I was totally unprepared for. I learned a lot – one of my bosses explained the concept of compartmentalization of ideas (no idea what the japanese word is for that) but he explained it’s one of the ways Japanese keep sane.
Weaboos. Damn you are a walking dictionary of weird words. Wogbox and Weaboos in only 2 days? I’m impressed. Hey wait… Wogboxes and Weaboos! That’s catchy!
I only learned that word from the compond derogatory “Weaboo Space Communists”
@#%@%@$^ TAU GUNLINE!
Nah, my basilisks ripped holes in the gunline, I just couldn’t kill the Riptide.
You, too?
Shit we’ve got enough of us here to host a tourney.
We? Boo.
That’s all I’ve got to offer, sadly.
And don’t get me started on Weaboos.
Fukken weabs, man.
I used to make fun of a buddy in high school. Total weeb, loved DDR, anime, was taking Japanese classes, whole package. And he looked the part, scrawny jug-eared pimply with a terrible patchy goatee.
Then he ended up with a hot weeb girlfriend.
Still a weeb.
Could be worse, he could be a Bronie. Then he’d come here to comment with his Bronie avatar. The horror. This is what he probably would look like today:
Bronie!
One of TLSD’s friends was seriously ADHD and went to an expensive “special” school that did a summer trip to the far east. She came back with a serious case of “Yellow Fever”, a Japanese boyfriend and a sickening dedication to kawaii culture. This kid was insufferable before, but she came back acting like Stephanie from LazyTown (just to really complicate the cultures).
Insisted on ordering food in really lousy japanese when in all sorts of restaurants, no matter what national cuisine (and then ostentatiously correcting herself, apologizing for having forgotten where she was) – the whole nine yards. My daughter wrote her off within about 2 weeks.
What is the feminine version of “Insufferable little prick”?
Dude, that wasn’t supposed to be a link to an Asian girl with owl glasses, was it?
No, LazyTown is Icelandic, but the character was perfect as the “insufferable little beef-taco”. Even down to the hair color.
The link is SF’d was my point.
Ah. Well, since you ask … Stephanie
Watashi wa BakedPenguin desu! Dozu yurishiku
I’ll have some of what BP just ordered, thanks.
LOL
“Aspie nerd.”
With respect to people with Asperger kids. That’s not funny.
But clueless twits who consciously act aspie… fair game.
The kid actually was diagnosed, but the parents made this big thing about how it explained everything about the kid and that the school would be the absolute best thing for her, along with the medication.
Having your kids on Thorazine or whatever is a badge of honor up here. Anyway, at the end of her school year in grade 12, she still came out with shit grades, because really, all this “special school” did was charge exhorbitant day-school fees, inflate classroom grades and under-prepare the kids for a challenging future.
Eugh. That’s a shame. How did your daughter end up befriending her? I had a couple aspyish friends growing up, but this was before the autism thing really took off and they were more or less tolerable people, just embarrassing to be seen with outside.
Her father is a limey in the financial industry and lives in our town, the kis were in elementary and middle school together.
The REALLY sad thing is that while this kid had some behaviors that looked to a layman as potentially needing intervention, I think the parents exacerbated the issue because the kid was relatively smart, but not smart enough for them, so they were looking for an excuse. In the middle school, they got intervention for the child so her classwork was to be held to a lower standard (it’s a state designation that O can’t remember now) so basically the kid could get ‘A’s for ‘C’ attainment, because medicine.
Of course, the less scrutiny her work received, the less effort she put in. This kid has bond trader parents and a Starbucks future.
My daughter was rather introvert until she was 12-13. She had no real idea what ‘normal’ friends were like. Of course, she’s kinda weird too.
I was wondering how to say milf in Japanese.
Mirf.
Ah. So.
Wacist
It is very interesting to watch the tatemae erode at the pub. Especially after pub is the third place you visited and drank at with your team. The boss is made fun of by his subordinates and he lets it slide, the emotions explode out of your customers and co-workers like a Vulcan during Amok time. Your a Gajin and don’t understand half of what is going on, so at first your more on guard to keep from doing something stupid you will regret tomorrow, but eventually you try to relax and be more yourself. It always seems to be a balancing act drinking after business in Japan. I think my weight advantage and past training (college) keeps me from being “That Guy” the next day.
Would it be unreasonable to infer that the lady dressed as a tiger spoke with a bit of an accent?
I wouldn’t be able to tell japanese regional accents apart. I hear they exist, but… they all sound alike to me.
If memory serves, you can tell Tokyo because they drop the “u” in most words (e.g., sukiyaki becomes skiyaki, sukoshi becomes skoshi, desu becomes des…). Beyond that, I’m similarly clueless. Or simirarry crueress.
Animal print wearing, gregarious older woman is a dead ringer for an Osaka stereotype. So the accent would be somewhat musical with lots of “n” sounds.
OMG, an entire city filled with Japanese cat women!
Straffinrun:
Where are you located? I’m in Daejeon, Korea . (OF COURSE I”M IN THE SOUTH I HAVE TO SAY TO EVERY RELATIVE…sorry…)
I think it’s so fucking funny how the Koreans/Japanese/Chinese HATE each other (with good historical reason) and yet how similar everything seems to be between them.
I am the only foreigner at my school with 7 Korean women teachers. I have a crush on my head teacher that I won’t indulge. Japan in my experience (twice in Tokyo and a trip through Kyoto/Osaka) was incredibly positive.
OH! Not so positive—In Osaka, in the touristy-bits mind you, literal child prostitution. Saw a maybe 16 year old dragging a maybe 13-14 year old along trying to initiate her into the scene. Or so it seemed. I smoked on that bridge with my ex and just…I don’t even know. It was right out in open and they were clearly way underrage. They didn’t talk to me cuz of the ex but other foreigners (and also mostly Japanese) guys were being targeted hard.
“I think it’s so fucking funny how the Koreans/Japanese/Chinese HATE each other (with good historical reason) and yet how similar everything seems to be between them.”
Heh. I have Korean friends. Some of them will openly admit, almost brag about how racist Koreans are. I really want to go there, been invited a couple of times. I’ve heard some crazy stories, not about racism, mind you, but about their escapades there when visiting.
I’ve lived here for 5+ years.
It is an absolute shit show. In the best way. They drink more than the fucking Russians for christ’s sake.
Got a show coming up in 3 weeks!
My friend who invited me is the craziest, he’s told me some wild stories about his adventures there when he goes back to visit. I believe him, which is why I want to go. He also mentioned hitting Tokyo on the tour.
I’m in Tokyo, EFE. I don’t think the Japanese “hate” the Koreans so much, but the Chinese? Oh yeah, they hate them. Sometimes I get to Seoul and, in fact, I was going to go there this week but everybody got sick. Next time, I’ll give you a shout out before I go.
Do please. That would be super fun. Got some friends in Seoul I see now and again. Not enough. Still trying to get my shit together here. Just started a band and have only been here for 3 months so far on this leg. Still have my bullshit kitchen to sort out.
I talked about, on separate occasions, the nuclear bombs and the 2010 (2011?) tsunami in Fukashima.
The kids literally gave a standing ovation upon the news. Twelve-14 year olds. Absolutely blew my mind.
That’s fucking horrible. I can’t imagine kids doing that in Japan today. Now, 70 years ago…
“ot so positive—In Osaka, in the touristy-bits mind you, literal child prostitution. Saw a maybe 16 year old dragging a maybe 13-14 year old along trying to initiate her into the scene.”
Umm, maybe not so literal. Combine this:
“Age of sexual consent legislation. The age of consent in Japan is 13 years old under the Japanese national criminal law code. However, all municipalities and prefectures have their own particular laws such as Tokyo’s “Youth Protection Law” which prohibit adults from having sex with youths who are under 17 years old.”
with the tendency of Asian women to look waay younger than they look, and those could have been people old enough to consent.
I had a Vietnamese GF in her early-mid 30s who was routinely mistaken for college age.
Humblebrag or just a normal brag ….
… you decide.
Staffinrun, have you read Dave Barry’s travel book on Japan? What do you think of it?
Years ago. I think it’s buried in my stack somewhere. OMWC mentions that the more you know about Japan, the more you know you don’t know. Barry can write some funny stuff about Japan because he isn’t encumbered by excessive knowledge of it.
I think that what has me most amazed about the Japanese, is that after that terrible tsunami a few years back, there was no looting at all. At least that’s what was being reported. Here, I can’t even imagine what it would have been like.
Looting just wouldn’t have been proper.
They do know cricket.
Crickets are for feeding lizards.
Meh, only if you’re low on biped mammal steaks
That’s probably what I should’ve written about. It was a surreal experience. Convenience store shelves empty. Rolling blackouts. Microsievert updates on every newscast for months. No sense of panic, however. They earned a lot of respect from me for the way they handled it.
Stiff upper rip.
Yeah, but then we still wouldn’t know how to say milf in Japanese.
There was a lot of Yakuza activity helping people out. Soup kitchens and relief, I guess we’d call them.
I worked with a guy that had worked in Japan for several years. He learned at least some of the language. He was our CFO. Him and our network admin used to clash sometimes. One day our network guy goes down to his office to confront him on some project we were working on. He came back a few minutes later with a big frown on his face. So I asked him ‘well, what did he say?’. He looks at me all forlorn and says ‘He said baka’. LOL.
I was in actual Japan very little, but Okinawa was …um…different. One of the things that I always got a kick out of was going to the Okinawan versions of “ethnic” restaurants – Mexican, Italian, etc. Some things would be fairly close to what you would get at such a place in the US, others were bizarre. Then there were the Okinawan twists on American food, like takuraisu (“taco rice”). Used to love going to CoCo for curry, too.
Habushu is always my most vivid memory of Oki, though. Nothing like drinking (awful tasting) awamori from a bottle with a large venomous snake at the bottom.
The lead singer of the Serpents really did fall into a bottle then?
Did he have fangs?
Oh, and it took a little while to get used to people routinely pulling over to the side of the road to take a leak. This wasn’t out in the countryside, this was in the middle of Ginowan City.
I love yoshoku. I could live upon egg sandwiches and potato salad. I picked up a slice of pizza from a train station bakery in Osaka. Mushrooms, jalapeños, bacon, and corn and it was weird and good.
If I had my druthers (and my wallet would support it), I’d be there right now.
The new Godzilla movie is a basically a comedy of manners with monsters. Absolutely hilarious in parts.
It could be a solid primer for the concepts discussed in the article if anyone is interested
Has anyone seen the episode of No Reservations where Bourdain is in Tokyo and is taken on a tour by a Japanese guy? The guy was like half the size of Bourdain and pretty much drinks him under the table. He told Bourdain that there’s a name for this activity and that it means basically ‘eat and drink until you fall down’ in English. I can’t remember the word.
Cirrhosis.
Cillhosis?
You guys are so sirry.
We’re all prime ministers?
I do have to say though, I heard some of the worst racist slurs I’ve ever heard when I was in Japan.
I can handle being called ‘ghostie’ and ‘gaijin’ (although really, while some people maintain that the latter is offensive, I don’t really agree – except it was used by people behind my back rather than to my face).
But darker skinned people? Wow.
Aren’t you British? I’m sure if they would have known that, it would be worse. Or even worse, Canadians. I don’t even know why anyone let’s those guys in.
You know it’s funny. I was reading the other day about how Canada handled Japanese descendants during WWII. Made FDR look like a piker.
I had been sent there for 4 months.
I’m sure they were also a little bit restrained because my firm – a New York/Geneva-based distressed debt firm – were helping their company out of a very deep hole they’d dug for themselves.
Plus I’d made a bit of an effort to learn the culture. They had few opportunities to write me off as a total chinpo.
In Okinawa, there were places they wouldn’t let you into. One night early in my time there, me and a few others decided to find a place that wasn’t one of the “American” bars or clubs, and they would basically shove us out the door yelling “No gaijin, no gaijin!” It was annoying, but knowing Marines the way I know them I suppose I couldn’t blame them.
Nuclear option *BOOM!*
And Don Rickles is dead. They killed Don Rickles with the nuclear option.
Good. No regrats. They made their bed, now lay the fuck down.
Shame about Rickles.
It probably will not happen. But if the old buzzard flies off into the sunset, I hope that Trump nominates the most radical libertarianish candidate imaginable and that they confirm that candidate. When that happens, they’re really going to regret filibustering Gorsuch.
I would like to see Harry Reid’s face right now.
Did someone bash in his other eye?
Ixnay with the person. It was his NordicTrack, OK?
Joan Walsh @joanwalsh
There is no “Scalia seat.”
Charles C. W. Cooke @charlescwcooke
Right. It’s now Gorsuch’s seat.
Charles C. W. Cooke
@charlescwcooke
The Bork-Estrada Memorial Seat
Bringing up the Nuclear Option in the Jap thread.
Well played.
Still not sure how I feel about that. But I’m sure the Dems thought there’s no way the GOP will do it since they’ve spent the last 5 decades acting like total pussies.
Wish they’d all commit seppuku, really, except that would involve honor
I think the nuclear option is a terrible idea but the Democrats have only themselves to blame. You would think that they would be introspective about this whole ordeal and perhaps start to see limiting government as a positive thing. But chances of that happening is probably zero.
“Never invest power in government that you would feel uncomfortable leaving in the hands of your worst opponent.”
For the Dems to complain about it is beyond hypocrisy. First they did it first. And before that, they passed a very major piece of legislation on a straight party line vote by invoking some trickery, which has never been done before. They need to just STFU.
Heh.
The DU response is as expected.
“Dawson Leery (15,596 posts)
7. Republicans are worse than ISIS, much worse.”
I guess you could say they’re a little unhinged.
Freaking weeaboos.
I hate JRPGs. I mean seriously. There are a few good ones, but the shit they are peddling on Steam these days is horrible, it’s just a bunch of anime non-sense. After a while all cartoon Japanese girls with impossibly huge boobs and green hair start to look alike.
I would eat the shit out of an eggplant donut any day of the week.
These euphemisms are getting too abstract.
Is eggplant shit really that good?
I took the implied dare and googled “obasan” and got no porn images despite safesearch being off.
Got this cool pic, though:
https://www.advancedphotoshop.co.uk/users/10662/thm1024/obasan.jpg
Umm, you need to scroll down a little more in those images.
If I want to see obasan porn, there will be no scrolling. I just google “obasan porn”.
Which I just did. Some hot looking 50 y.o.s there.
Breaking: Tillerson: New Syria policy: Regime Change.
Oh well, that’s always worked out so well before. Glad we learned that.
*shocked face*
For fuck’s sake. To be replaced with what, exactly?
Chaos or a couple decades of American colonial rule, take your pick.
Chaos. i pick Chaos.. followed shortly by Sons of Sigmar.. then maybe Vampire Counts.
Some ‘friendly’ strongman, I bet
Trump’s first real clusterfuck of a mistake?
Definitely could be, depending on what they actually do. There were some people blaming the chemical weapon attack on Tillerson’s implying that Assad would stay in power. If this is simply a reversal of that position with no real teeth in it, then the effect will be minimal. If it’s a prelude to military action against Assad, especially anything prolonged or with more boots on the ground, that’s a terrible mistake. Best case for military action is a single punitive strike on chemical weapon facilities. Still dumb, because it shows they can be goaded into military action with a psy-ops campaign, but preferable to expanding the conflict.
A power vacuum in which Syria becomes an even bigger ISIS-controlled shithole.
This. Assad is scum, but those who would take over are probably worse, including US Gov buddies the (Marxist) PKK.
Good. We still have dicks we haven’t stuck in hornet nests.
So the “we’re not that concerned about Assad” lasted… what, literally 3 days?
If i were more cynical…
…which i’m not sure is possible….
…i’d say, “he just pulled a crossover-dribble that would break Iverson’s ankles”
iow – i suspect that last week’s “Assad aint no thing” was simply to get all his critics taking the opposite view, saying, “OMG TRUMP WEAK ON SYRIA” only so that they would all be rendered toothless when he then pivoted and announced he’s going to fucking bomb Damascus and send in troops.
NPR mourns the loss of the filibuster.
“By essentially eliminating the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees — an extension of the 2013 nuclear option triggered by then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., for all lower court and executive branch nominees — all presidential nominees will now face a far easier path navigating through the Senate confirmation process. It also could make it easier for presidents to appoint more overtly partisan justices to the Supreme Court.
“The change will also test the character of the Senate and the people who serve in it, and lay bare whether the upper chamber is slowly lurching towards becoming more like the majority-driven and reactionary House of Representatives, where the minority party has little substantive role.”
“Elections have consequences,” I seem to remember some jackass telling the country.
*plays sad trombone*
Shouldn’t liberals be cheering about this? They are forever going on about “obstructionism” and anything that gets remotely in the way of more “progress” defined as ever-expanding government control of every aspect of existence. Yes, it might be inconvenient in the immediate term, but by and large I thought they were huge fans of “50%+1 = do it”.
Hey, there’s no Electoral College in the Senate.
Not if Republicans do it. So basically, they’re going to be against it until they’re for it.
+1
I’ve seriously ran into Progressives and Democrats who looked at me straight in my face and said that if we had to do away with some safeguards and checks, better that a Democrat do it because they have “our” best interests at heart. The tragedy of all of this is that you see these people willing to throw away their principles for politics.
You can’t fix stupid.
Progressives have principles?
Go on…
Power by any expedient.
I got no problem with Jappers, though them little bastards attacked us.
I hate the kids who love their conceptions of Japan. I’ve never met a manga reading teenager who wasn’t on the Spectrum.
But, uh, manga reading twentysomethings are totally cool, right? *shifty eyes*
Manga never clicked with me. My mind won’t do the right to left panel thing, I never know which dialogue balloon to read next.
But a co-worker pointed out all the sound effects and how they translate, that was pretty neat.
The whole right to left panel thing is probably helped by me being left-handed, it ‘clicked’ with my brain pretty fast.
I don’t get Japanese animation, period. It just has no appeal whatsoever to me.
Same here. It’s because it seems to camera pan drawn panels, rather than animation
I’m not a giant fan of Japanese anime in general, but I like Cowboy Bebop, Samuri Champloo, Helsing, Assassination Classroom, Trigun, and attack on titan.
OT: Attack on Titan Season 2 is airing now (premiered last Saturday). Downloading the fansubs myself, but I think episode 1 is up on Hulu.
I watched the first episode of season 2 this morning on Crunchyroll.
I really liked Cowboy Bebop, but I guess it’s not typical anime. My kids watch the stuff and think I would like Monster, so I may give that a try.
I’m not familiar with monster. I’ll check it out.
Cowboy Bebop and Black Lagoon are both pretty heavily westernized. Monster’s a little more middle ground, but deliberately avoids the more ridiculous nature of anime most of the time.
I just finished the first season of assassination classroom. I liked the blend of serious topics with an octopus teacher that wants to destroy the earth. At least Japan still has original stories.
I’m not on the spectrum and I read manga as a teen. Actually looking back on it, I mostly read manhwa instead, maybe the Koreans kept me from going off the deep end.
Anyone here like Japanese cinema? They’ve had some good directors.
Lots of oba-san in anime outfits?
I can watch Ran over and over. My wife can’t stand it.
That sounds like grounds for divorce.
nah, she’s good to me.
It’s a shame Kurosawa didn’t use color film for his earlier stuff. Seven Samurai/Yojimbo/Sanjuro in Technicolor would have been (more) awesome.
The Magnificent Seven with Denzel is in color, so you can watch that.
That was NOT awesome.
Serviceable at best.
i disagree re: whether it would have actually made his older movies “better”…
…but i think its fair to say that Kurosawa, perhaps more than any other director of his era who worked in both b+w and color, used Color like a completely new and different story-telling tool… Ran + Dreams in particular, maybe Kagamusha as well, sometimes look more like paintings/animations than they do ‘movies’. He was much more willing to do extreme things with color if he could create dramatic effects with it.
I find the prospect of a color (or colorized) version of Rashomon rather depressing.
All of those early films were shot with the lighting-effects of B+W entirely in mind from the start. you’d lose far more than you’d gain by adding color after the fact.
Takeshi Kitano flicks are generally good.
Loved Battle Royale and Zatoichi
I bought the blu-ray this week and haven’t had time to watch the sequel. I hope it is decent.
BR2? I remember being a little disappointed, but that may have been because I set the bar high after the first one.
The first one was amazing. I’m setting my hopes low so I won’t be disappointed for BR2.
Noboru Iguchi is the best Japanese director.
You’d probably like Takashi Miike, if you don’t already.
Tampopo is both amusing, well done and thoroughly (stereotypically) weird.
Does this mean my waifu doesn’t really love me?
Nobody loves you.
Nobody loves any of us. That’s why we’re all here and miserable.
I assumed we are all dead on the inside and we come here to pass the time until our outside matches.
pssst. nobody does. And I thought you had a husbando
Erm, no.
Did you call JB gay andunlovable? That’s harsh even by Glib standards.
I saw it more as identifying him as one of us.
I identify as robosexual, thank you very much.
Can’t satisfy all the mechas, all the time.
Just watch out for electro-gonorrhea, the noisy killer.
DON’T HAVE SEX WITH ROBOTS!
Theeeee Space Pope!
This explains why you keep Teenage Libertarian Student Daughter off of here.
That as catchy as mutant ninja turtle. Now I’m singing the cartoon theme song to myself.
I have no way to stop her coming here once she knows about it.
She used to lurk at the Before Place, so it’s just a matter of time before I get a text from her asking if I’m “that jerk talking about TLSD over at Glibz”.
And then I’ll lie and say no.