Thursday Afternoon Links

So…rain here for most of the day. I fully expect taunting about either clear and warm weather. Or maybe snow you can ski. I would think the less of all of you did you not.

  • Steel Rain? Oops.
  • Hoping for no rain on the plain in Spain?
  • Rain on the O!care parade?
  • Something for everyone in this? [hint – Thor and his wife. No rain joke]
  •  Ad execs are going to be raining out of the sky for this one.

So grumble about the rain, gloat about the sun or remain calmly weather aloof….whatever your preference.

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SugarFree here with a late-breaking link…

Ever thought to yourself “I don’t look stupid enough. Is there some way I can lower the estimation of me held by all my friends, relatives and passers-by?” Well, there is. There is.

Comments

313 responses to “Thursday Afternoon Links”

  1. *reads SF link…gah!*

    1. Tonio

      Oh, look at Mr. Special Boy with his unnumbered top-level comment.

      1. Florida Man

        *hanging from wall*

        Bloody favoritism!

        1. square circle

          Shaddup you!

        2. BigT

          Crony commenting!

  2. Raston Bot

    odd. other than the URL, there’s no mention about friendly casualties.

    The military is currently assessing the damage

    1. EDIT NOTE: Good catch by Raston Bot – I fart on the DPA, they f’ing changed the link. So I reverted the link to a US paper. “Never trust the Germans, they are always at your feet or at your throat.”

  3. Cheeseburger

    Hey, longtime lurker at the Other Site and here… logged in just to ask – you guys had a logo contest but no slogan contest? I will humbly open with a modest effort:

    Glibertarians.com
    Silver tongues. Gold Standards.

    1. Have you seen what we post around here….? “Tin Ears and Used Kleenex Standards?” 🙂

      1. Cheeseburger

        Haha fair enough. Written with a silver tongue firmly planted in cheek.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          I was going to ask about the used kleenex, but then Cheesey wrote about where he stuck his special tongue and it all became clear.

      2. BigT

        Um..something, Mexicans, and butt-sex wasn’t good enough?

    2. Tonio

      You know who else liked slogans?

      1. jesse.in.mb
      2. Zunalter

        David Mackenzie Ogilvy?

      3. Vhyrus

        The marines?

        1. Florida Man

          Are grunts really slogans?

          1. Chipwooder

            YUUUUUUUUUUT!

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Ahem. Don’t forget that that is a proper noun and should be Marines (unless you are talking about some crappy marines from some podunk country).

      4. The Lollipop Guild?

      5. Diane Reynolds

        Politicians?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          ^^ I’m with her. ^^

          1. BigT

            Make Slogans Grate Again!!

      6. Tonio

        Bzzzt! The correct answer is Marxists.

        1. Diane Reynolds

          Beat you by 3 minutes.

    3. The Last American Hero

      TSTSNBN went Cosmo.

      But We Persisted.

  4. The Other Kevin

    I’m not a big fan of he new makeup trends, such as the super thick eyebrows or the shiny makeup that makes it look like the person’s a plastic cyborg. The feathered eyebrows are even worse.

    1. Vhyrus

      I’m still undecided on whether I hate groucho eyebrows or feather eyebrows on females more. I’m thinking groucho eyebrows but I may change my decision depending on how much the trend takes off.

      1. Private Chipperbot

        I read that as gaucho twice. Time for a drink.

        1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          That was a pretty good album.

      2. Groucho Marx: What you get from frowning too much.

    2. Bobarian LMD

      I can’t follow that link here at work, but I’m now wondering… does the carpet match the feathered drapes?

      1. Hammercorps

        Oooh, hey Jessica Alba’s still around. Still looking good too.

      2. Trials and Trippelations

        Is that groucho marx wearing a wig in the background

      3. Pope Jimbo

        Argh! Jessica Alba comes to Minnesoda only to hang out with the fucking Cake Eaters?

        “Do you do fishing? Is that like one of the activities you do?” Alba asked.

        I finally know who the fuck one of the hotties ya’ll are talking about and then you have to ruin everything! Why does she hang out with the worse people in Minnesoda and then show absolutely zero knowledge about something as fun as fishing.

  5. Bobarian LMD

    Live action version of Rick Sanchez!

    Wubba lubba dub dub!

    1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      Hardly, did you see him on Colbert’s election night special?

  6. Rufus the Monocled

    Dan Rooney died.

    1. Florida Man

      Who?

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        What?

        1. Vhyrus

          Huh?

      2. Chipwooder

        The principal from Ferris Bueller, I think.

      3. The man responsible for making certain you interview coached based on their melanin content.

        So we get nasty bigots like Tony Dungy.

        1. BigT

          Fine man. My buddy Art III takes full control.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Fuck him.

      Lost any stitch of respect I might’ve had for him when he said this in 2008 about why the Steelers released a nobody player for domestic violence but didn’t bother to discipline James Harrison for an arguably worse case of domestic violence:

      “I know many are asking the question of [why] we released Wilson and Harrison we kept,” he said. “The circumstances — I know of the incidents, they are completely different. In fact, when I say we don’t condone these things, we don’t, but we do have to look at the circumstances that are involved with other players and things like that, so they’re not all the same.”

      In Mr. Harrison’s case, Mr. Rooney said the player was trying to take his son to be baptized.

      “What Jimmy Harrison was doing and how the incident occurred, what he was trying to do was really well worth it,” he said of Mr. Harrison’s initial intent with his son. “He was doing something that was good, wanted to take his son to get baptized where he lived and things like that. She said she didn’t want to do it.”

  7. Drake

    Our lifting savior Rip weighs in on genders and sports.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      Ronda Rousey would finally have an opportunity to showcase her boxing talent in a match with Floyd Mayweather, earn a real paycheck for her trouble, and truly unify the title.

      Or be murdered on national pay-per-view?

        1. Vhyrus

          Although that being said I believe that, when restricted by weight, some of the more successful female fighters could easily take out the lower half of the male competitors.

          1. Viking1865

            You’re entirely wrong about that.

          2. Zunalter

            Anecdotally: Every year our State Champion 50-0 girls basketball team would play a game against our middling, usually below .500 boys JV basketball team and lose, easily, by 40 points.

          3. Drake

            Nope – wouldn’t be close. Even trannies on female hormones are way too strong for women.

          4. mexican sharpshooter

            So…Cyborg might have a chance?

          5. trshmnstr

            some of the more successful female fighters could easily take out the lower half of the male competitors

            Probably not. Take a sport where strength is less of a factor, like tennis. A male pro who played Serena Williams in her prime said she’d probably be ranked in the 300s on the men’s tour (that’s at the “really good amateur”/ “part-time pro” level). Chris Evert said her brother (who only played in college) would routinely beat her.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        I’ve thrown a lot of money away on Rousey’s awful fights, I’m pretty sure I’d pay to see that.

        It was as if the UFC knew everyone was paying to see her, so they wouldn’t even stack the undercards with better fighters–just in case the main event was going to last 30 seconds or less.

        1. Drake

          I had a good laugh after the last 2 appeared on Youtube.

  8. Rufus the Monocled

    For Tundra and Minnesotans. The Bruce Boudreau Curse continues – oooooo.

    1. Tundra

      We’ll see. BB isn’t responsible for the boys not crashing the net, not taking away the Allen’s eyes and not finishing. Parise swiping the puck out of the net was classic.

      Fuck, Dubnyk could have read a book for the most of the second and third. They need to relax and just play.

      Oh, and the NHL can suck my balls. Two central zone teams playing until after midnight. Fuckers.

      1. Enough About Palin

        What I want to know was who was responsible for the game going well past midnight? Damn tired at work today.

        1. Borsby4187

          But Bettman said fans don’t mind late starts, like, at all. And if anyone has their finger on the pulse of the fans, it’s him.

          1. I’m amazed they still have the trapezoid.

      2. BakedPenguin

        Tundra – I posted this on an earlier thread, not sure if you saw it.

        Here’s a channel your daughter might like.

        1. Tundra

          She’ll love it! Thanks, BP!

        2. But Enough About Me

          Her Dad’s no slouch, either. Talented family!

          1. BakedPenguin

            The family that plays together…

  9. Vhyrus

    So the holy week thing is a big game of who can spot the assassin, right?

  10. jesse.in.mb

    None of this? I am disappoint.

  11. Brett L

    First female kicker in D1 football since Kathy Ireland graduated from Texas State.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      Nice pads.

    2. Private Chipperbot

      From the story it sounds like she made one field goal all season. News writers suck.

      1. Diane Reynolds

        It’s not about what’s actually produced.

    3. Florida Man

      Go dillos!

      1. Brett L

        It makes me sad that they can no longer perform their tribute to gunracks and open beverage containers, as the latter are no longer legal in Texas.

      2. The Last American Hero

        +1 Manu Manu the Slender

    4. Juice

      I’ve got a D1 for her.

    5. trshmnstr

      First female kicker in D1 football since

      Longo, 5-foot-11, 140-pound kicker, signed her national letter with Division II Adams State in Alamosa, Colorado.

    1. Vhyrus

      Why can’t we be respecting of her culture and give her space to mutilate babies?

    2. Juice

      Jumana Nagarwala of Livonia was charged with female genital mutilation, a five-year felony

      Male genital mutilation still highly recommended.

      1. Vhyrus

        As a recipient of male genital mutilation, anyone who actually seriously cries over circumcisions needs to STFU. Give one to your kids or not, it really doesn’t matter, but it’s not worth fighting over.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Calm down dude. Your comment came across as pretty snippy. Maybe the context was lost in comment format.

          Pro Tip: When discussing circumcision you have to tread lightly.

        2. Juice

          anyone who actually seriously cries over circumcisions needs to STFU

          Says a “libertarian” who supposedly follows the NAP.

          It’s a stupid, barbaric practice that has no place in modern times.

  12. jesse.in.mb

    In what will, I’m sure, surprise no one, I’d totally put my foot or any appendage of his choosing in Mr. Hemsworths butt.

    1. Vhyrus

      But would you catch? That’s the real question.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        Fo’ sho’

    1. KibbledKristen

      (I can just hear the guy – “Oh! Shoo! Shoo! You beast! Shoo!”)

    2. jesse.in.mb

      Why are they wearing clothes?

      1. AlmightyJB

        Crocs?

        1. jesse.in.mb

          A bikini isn’t going to protect you from crocs. If you’re alone together in private pool you should be naked.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            And there should be more hidden cameras.

    3. File under: How fast can you swim? Faster than you think.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Just gotta be faster than her.

    4. Florida Man

      I thought the same thing when I first saw that. What kind of man leaves his girl in the pool when a crocodile jumps in?

      1. Brett L

        Pretty girls can be replaced, there’s only one me.

    5. Diane Reynolds

      I absolutely love how the dude unassed the pool and left the woman to fend for herself.

      1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        Of course he did, think of all the sympathy fucks. “I just don’t know if I’m ready for anything serious, my last serious girl was eaten by a crocodile,” is an amazing line to lay down at the bar.

    6. AlmightyJB

      Oh hell no

    7. Tundra

      Ryan B wins!

      Ryan B.3 months ago
      Dude just got crocblocked

  13. But Enough About Me

    I live in the Lower Rainland™ of British Columbia. It’s always raining here. 🙁

    1. Florida Man

      I’m hoping for a wet summer. Stupid two day a week watering law.

      1. Brett L

        I think it has rained twice since February here in Pinellas County.

        1. BakedPenguin

          About the same here in Orange.

        2. stilljustcarol

          I’m over in Hillsborough County. I thought we were going to see some rain yesterday but it was just a tease.

  14. Brett L

    Umm, I’m not sure this shows Dark Matter, so much as the effect of gravitational lensing. Which MOND also predicts and is a requirement to satisfy relativity, but in no way solely explained by the existence of particles which cannot be detected by direct observation.

    1. square circle

      I’ve long suspected that Dark Matter is our luminous aether. We know what we want it to explain, and what it would have to ‘look like’ in order to explain what we need it to explain, but I think ultimately the search for the explanation is going to reveal serious shortcomings in the current paradigm.

    2. Juice

      Dark matter is most likely wrong, but MOND is wronger.

      1. Brett L

        The guy who came up with the EM thruster also has a theory of gravity that eschews Dark Matter, however, I have not read it — not sure its been published, although he’s submitted it for review. I also don’t understand how a force would magically change from inverse square to inverse at an arbitrary mass/distance, but given the absolute failure to detect WIMPs in devices that should be detecting hundreds a day, alternate forms of matter seem to me to be unlikely at this point.

        1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          His theory is still unsupported. However, that the EM drive produces thrust suggests that quantum hydrodynamics is a better model to explain the actions of subatomic particles than probabilistic quantum mechanics. That being the case, Dark Matter is no longer required to explain the predictive gaps in probabilistic quantum mechanical models. The recent NASA paper discusses the possible models underlying EM drive performance and suggests validations for them.

    3. The Last American Hero

      What does any of this have to do with April O’Neill?

  15. What about an evening in the Warty dungeon?

    1 in 4 Americans don’t think one-night stands count as cheating

    Roughly three quarters of Americans agree that having sex or kissing someone other than your partner is always cheating, but they bring less clarity to questions about online and other non-physical activities.

    For example, 51 percent say sending flirtatious messages is always cheating, 19 percent say the same about watching pornography without a partner and 16 percent say following an ex on social media is always cheating. But in each of these cases, at least 25 percent of respondents say these activities “sometimes” constitute cheating.

    more in da link

    1. Florida Man

      19 percent say the same about watching pornography without a partner

      If my partner is around, why am I watching porn?

      1. She/He/It is a kinky freak?

        1. Vhyrus

          Or the more common and much less fun explanation: your partner doesn’t want to fuck you.

          Ask me how I know about that one.

          1. Florida Man

            …ouch

      2. Brett L

        “Babe, I have this idea. Its easier if I just show you.”

      3. Mad Scientist

        Imagine for a moment that you are Bill Clinton. Would you even have any desire to hit that?

        1. Bobarian LMD

          You say that like you think Bill Clinton actually has any sort of standards. Given some of the other things he’s hit, I believe the only thing that would keep him away is fear of a taser.

      4. AlmightyJB

        It’s that a serious question?

      5. Diane Reynolds

        Because your partner is around.

    2. Bobarian LMD

      19 percent say the same about watching pornography without a partner

      Imma guess that the demographic breakout of that 19% comes very heavily from 51% of the population. But gender is just a construct.

    3. Diane Reynolds

      Jesus… that was like a 1500 word article.

    4. jesse.in.mb

      I’m gonna guess that it needs to be voluntary to be cheating. A night in Warty’s Liftarium and Dungeon is probably not a voluntary thing.

  16. Nasa announces one of Saturn’s moons could support alien life in our solar system

    All of the necessary things to support life have been found on one of the moons that orbits Saturn.

    Enceladus has chemicals that when found on Earth tend to indicate life, suggesting that there might be living things might be under its icy shell.

    Scientists have long thought of Enceladus as one of the prime candidates for life within our solar system or anywhere else nearby, in large part because it is a planetary body with an ocean that covers its entire surface. But the new research gives the best look yet at that moon, showing that it has a chemical energy source capable of supporting life.

    My money was always on Titan.

    1. But Enough About Me

      My money was always on Titan.

      Me too. I haz a sad.

    2. Trials and Trippelations

      Not Uranus?

    3. TripodKat

      Titan? Why Titan? It literally rains liquid methane on the surface of Titan. Titan’s oceans are made of liquid methane.

      My money is on Europa – where we know there is warm liquid water underneath the miles of ice. I’d bet that there are at least some simple organisms surviving off of the heat of the core, which is kept warm by Jupiter’s gravitational influence.

      1. Mad Scientist

        Speculation about life on Titan has a long history.

        1. TripodKat

          I’d still put my money on proven subsurface liquid water rather than hypothetical subsurface liquid water. Obviously it could be possible that life doesn’t need liquid water to develop, but its the only data point we have.

          1. John Titor

            Europa also gets over 500 rems a day. Of course there’s radiation resistant organisms and bacteria but that kind of throws a wrench into the whole idea.

          2. TripodKat

            Oh, yeah I actually didn’t think of that. I don’t think Europa has an molten iron core to produce a magnetic field, either, does it? Aren’t all of these moons blasted with constant solar & planetary radiation, though? So doesn’t this giant wrench also apply to Enceladus and Titan?

          3. John Titor

            Jupiter’s magnetosphere is extremely strong and messed up, most of its inner moons get a stupid amount of radiation daily. I think Ganymede is the only one with a magnetic field strong enough to actually shrug off the edge of the Van Allen belts (or whatever you call them when it’s Jupiter). I know Saturn’s belts are way less dense.

          4. LynchPin1477

            So Europa probably doesn’t have a molten core but it does have a magnetic field t hat probably arises through interactions with Jupiter’s field and a conductive medium, perhaps a briny fluid. I use the term fluid because it’s still not known whether Europa has a liquid ocean like Earth’s or if its a bit more of a slush.

            I do believe the ice would block most radiation.

            I personally would like to see a mission to Europa.

          5. Juice

            Could that radiation make it through all that ice?

          6. John Titor

            Isn’t water in general awful at stopping gamma radiation?

          7. Mad Scientist

            Water is a pretty effective radiation shield, mostly because of it is density. As an ice….no idea.

          8. John Titor

            Bear in mind I’m the social science major here, but I thought water is effective at stopping neutron radiation only, not gamma.

          9. Mad Scientist

            To reduce typical gamma rays by a factor of a billion, thicknesses of stop-gamma shield need to be about 13.8 feet of water, about 6.6 feet of concrete, or about 1.3 feet of lead. Thick, dense shielding is necessary to protect against gamma rays. The higher the energy of the gamma ray, the thicker the shield must be. X-rays pose a similar challenge. This is why x-ray technicians often give patients receiving medical or dental X-rays a lead apron to cover other parts of their body.

          10. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            The answer is generally no. Not through more than two miles of solid ice. Presuming that there is a similar distribution of heavy water within that ice as there is on earth. I’d guess that there might actually be more heavy water on Eruopa.

      2. Diane Reynolds

        You’re made of liquid methane.

        1. TripodKat

          Na uh!

      3. John Titor

        Europa’s a moon of Jupiter.

        1. John Titor

          Durr didn’t read to the end of the sentence. I’ll see myself out.

          1. TripodKat

            haha ^_^

        2. TripodKat

          I know… I didn’t know we were confining ourselves to moons of Saturn..

    4. Diane Reynolds

      You know what else supposedly has living things beneath its icy shell?

      1. Brett L

        Thank you for playing the SugarFree slashfic game, tell him what he’s won!

        1. Diane Reynolds

          This is where the cynical among us were supposed to reply “my [ex] wife”

      2. Tonio

        Antarctica? Except I think they actually drilled into one of those lakes and found organisms.

  17. Brett L

    Article about the Cocaine Cowboys of Miami. They sound like great young entrepreneurs to me. Holy shit. Can you imagine getting $2.5M to fly a plane from Miami to Medellin and back?

    1. Bobarian LMD

      You can also get free room and board for 25 years.

      1. Brett L

        Nothing is worth 25 years in prison, but if I could do five of the first and five of the second, I might count it as a net win.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Growing up in Miami in the 80s was weird.

      1. All that pastel clothing….

        1. Fatty Bolger

          With the collar up, of course.

    3. AlmightyJB

      They all had a pretty good thing going until that crazy bitch Griselda Blanco started having people blown away in the streets of Miami. That put an end to that. Prior to her stupidity, they were basically a nuisance that got very little LEO resources. Crazy godmother had to f’k it all up.

    4. Michael Irvin has a sad.

    5. Chipwooder

      The Cocaine Cowboys documentary is fascinating.

    6. Not an Economist

      There is a documentary about them I saw on cable. Rather interesting, had Micky Munday and a few others (including a hit man) talking about there exploits.

      Also said cocaine was responsible for Miami exploding in the 80s.

    7. Fatty Bolger

      There really was kind of a gold rush mentality. Seemed like everybody knew a “friend of a friend” who was making a killing transporting drugs, and it was attracting middle class wanna be drug dealers, people who would not normally get involved in crime. Some of my best friends at the time met a pilot who wanted to start making runs, and was looking for “investors.” They were seriously considering it, and I had to stop hanging out with them. I didn’t want to get pinched just for being with them if the guy turned out to be an undercover DEA agent.

    1. The Other Kevin

      A pity Andy Rooney didn’t live to see this. I see upthread that he just died.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Andy’s Brother Dan, you mean?

        1. AlmightyJB

          Andy’s already dead right?

          1. square circle

            Yes, but he’s also still complaining about it.

    2. excellent snake

      You’ve given me something to aspire to, a new goal in life. I feel refreshed and invigorated. Thank you.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        All I have to do is stop trimming my eyebrows (and ears).

        They tend to poke you in the eyes.

  18. Enough About Palin

    Minneapolis Muslims protest ‘sharia’ vigilante in Cedar-Riverside area
    Man “patrolling” Cedar-Riverside has community leaders, police on watch.

    http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-muslims-protest-sharia-vigilante-patrolling-in-cedar-riverside-area/419321224/

    1. jesse.in.mb

      Yeah, but the Muslim community never denounces people like this.

      *reads some of article*

      Well…Not every Muslim on erf has denounced this man. So clearly it’s a terroreligion!

      *reads all of article*

      OK so pretty much every Muslim who is not actively enrolled in ISIS has denounced this guy, but it’s like the only time anyone has ever criticized a Muslim for anything and not been beheaded or something.

      *nukes goalposts, declares victory*

      1. John Titor

        I don’t really care about the denouncements, what annoys me is the stupid purity games people play about how so-and-so isn’t ‘real Islam’ or whatever. Standing outside looking in you just see it as the shitty rhetoric and tribal identity politics game it is (and I apply the same to say, Christians and WBC).

        Cosmo v. yokel must look pretty retarded to outsiders too.

        1. Viking1865

          and I apply the same to say, Christians and WBC

          Except the WBC is literally less than 50 people and Islamic fundamentalists are, depending on your definition of fundamentalist, anywhere from hundreds of thousands to hundreds of millions of people.

          1. John Titor

            You didn’t get the point, and instead reflexively jumped to make an argument. I could have used any other example, from the Lord’s Resistance Army to the 969 movement for Buddhists.

            The numbers don’t matter, it’s just a shitty rhetoric game to defend your identity group, i.e. “how dare *insert people here, the numbers or point in history don’t matter* identify as *insert group here*, I identify with said group and I don’t want to be associated with them.”

            It’s not how religion works.

          2. Viking1865

            The only difference between a cult leader and a prophet is the number of followers.

            As far as I know, every single recognized Baptist organization denounces and denies the legitimacy of the WBC.

            Like, is the Messianic Jewish movement Jewish just because they claim to be? Because I’m pretty sure there is universal agreement among rabbinical authorities that Messianic Jews are violating the precepts of Judaism.

          3. John Titor

            Are the Jews Jewish just because they claim to be? Are the Christians Christian because they claim to be? What’s the one True Form of Christianity? Buddhism? Islam? Do you think a 11th century Christian would consider a modern one even close to the correct interpretation?

            Again, that’s my point, groups elevate their position, declare their leaders to be the authority on the matter, and declare themselves/their group to have the knowledge that defines the One True Way. When in reality religion is very rarely a top-down managed system and is much more a product of shifting and long standing cultural, social and personal influences. It’s a tribalistic squabble and it’s blatantly transparent to anyone outside of the dynamic.

          4. square circle

            Do you think a 11th century Christian would consider a modern one even close to the correct interpretation?

            An excellent point to raise.

            If you go back and read the debates between pagans and Christians in the run-up to the removal of the Altar of Victory from the Roman Senate chamber, you find that from a modern perspective you could hardly slip a sheet of paper between them for all that they disagree about.

            And if you took Porphyry and Augustine of Hippo and dropped them in the middle of a modern western university, they would find common ground with one another right quick.

          5. square circle

            It’s not how religion works.

            Maybe I’m not catching the thread of your argument, either, but I would pose that that’s exactly how religion works (and maybe it’s just a matter of semantics, as it often is).

            But I know of no case where an identity group comes into conflict with another identity group because of a religious schism – the causality goes precisely the opposite direction.

            Which still supports your original grouse – i.e. that people calling each other out for not adhering to the “true” Religion X are full of shit. But it’s because the disparate groups calling each other out have constructed and defined their truths in opposition to one another.

          6. John Titor

            I meant in the sense that you take your interpretation of whatever holy books you have (and of course, the random other commentaries on said books that your group as arbitrarily chosen and slapped on) and declare it the one and unquestionable way. When in reality the entire history of religion has been an argument, whether verbal or violent, not an agreement, over texts and interpretations.

            Yes, that’s how sects within religions tend to function, but that doesn’t mean they’re right, or that said debate isn’t really just a giant argument from authority about who gets to slap the ‘One True Faith’ identifier on their interpretation.

          7. square circle

            Yes, that’s how sects within religions tend to function, but that doesn’t mean they’re right, or that said debate isn’t really just a giant argument from authority about who gets to slap the ‘One True Faith’ identifier on their interpretation.

            Completely agree.

            And that’s why I bring up semantics. “Religion” is about as fuzzy as terms get, and there’s a world of difference between an individual’s spiritual experiences that occur within the paradigm of a religion, and the way a religion/sect develops as a community, which tends to be fundamentally in opposition to some other community, and thus the contrasting elements are seen as features, not bugs.

            Which brings me to my only nitpick – I don’t think the ‘random other commentaries’ are arbitrarily chosen – they are chosen to prove your adversary wrong.

      2. Brett L

        Dude looks like he was originally given the middle name “Wayne”.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Were he a redhead he’d look almost identical to my aunt’s husband’s son (they married too late for him to pick up the uncle and his kids to get the cousins moniker).

      3. Enough About Palin

        Exactly. Minneapolis is crawling with Muslims and save for a few impressionable young men, they’re great folks.

        1. Tundra

          This. I was at that Nordeast parade last summer and was tempted to take a picture of all the smiling Somali families waving flags and having a grand time.

          Clearly they hate us for our freedoms.

          1. square circle

            The thing is that most Muslims are just sort of invisible, so Muslims only enter public perception when they do something newsworthy.

            But it’s worth asking yourself “do I know people who are not African-American, nor of European or East Asian descent? Those people are probably Muslims. In fact, if they’re not Hindu, it’s pretty much a 100% chance.

          2. Gadfly

            But it’s worth asking yourself “do I know people who are not African-American, nor of European or East Asian descent? Those people are probably Muslims. In fact, if they’re not Hindu, it’s pretty much a 100% chance.

            Not quite. Africans (not AA) have only a 50/50 chance of being a Muslim, and “not Hindu” could include Sikh and Buddhist as well. Muslims mainly come from North & East Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia, so those are the only areas-of-origin/descent where it would be safe to assume Muslim.

          3. square circle

            If we’re going to be very specific, the largest Muslim population in the world is in Indonesia, and there’re another 15M in Malaysia. There aren’t many Buddhists outside of East Asia, and there’re only 27M Sikhs in the entire world.

            But yes, sub-Saharan Africa probably has a Christian plurality, so – pretty much 95%?

  19. mexican sharpshooter

    OT: The best way to combat a stupid idea is by throwing out a even stupider idea.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/design-trumps-border-wall-hyperloop-2017-4

    “A group of Mexican and American engineers and urban planners called MADE Collective want to build a $1 trillion hyperloop transportation network instead. The plan would turn the border into a shared nation, called Otra Nation, with an independent local government and nonvoting representatives in the US and Mexican legislatures.”

    Sure, people with property in southern AZ, NM and TX will be happy to sign on to this and all those states will cede control of their territory.

    “The plan would cost approximately $15 billion — less than the $21 billion that the Department of Homeland Security estimated a border wall would cost. The designers also predict that their system would create $1 trillion in trade”

    Yes, because government projects are always within budget.

    1. Vhyrus

      See, if they had made it a legit wall with a hyperloop on top then I bet they would have had a serious chance with their proposal.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Don’t give Elon Musk stupid ideas. He doesn’t need your help.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      “Bi-National Park” Turn the US-Mexico border a park for bisexuals!

      http://www.businessinsider.com/park-design-trump-border-wall-2017-3

      1. Vhyrus

        Yes, because people would pay to drive hours out into the desert to see….. nothing. And this won a contest. Christ sake our country is doomed.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      Inflato-border. Turn the US-Mexico border into a bouncy-house.

      http://buildingtheborderwall.com/inflatoborder

    4. square circle

      nonvoting representatives in the US and Mexican legislatures

      Why? So the legislatures can point and laugh at them when they need comic relief?

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        No, so they can ask for more money.

        1. square circle

          I don’t see how that contradicts what I said . . .

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            It wasn’t meant to, honestly.

          2. square circle

            Then we agree!

            *shakes ms’ hand*

    5. Gadfly

      The plan would cost approximately $15 billion — less than the $21 billion that the Department of Homeland Security estimated a border wall would cost.

      Absurdity of the concept aside, that right there should raise red flags. There is no way constructing a transportation structure would be cheaper than constructing a wall over the same distance. Walls are far simpler structures than hyperloops, and simpler structures are generally less expensive.

      1. OneOut

        The diff mi ght be between a private company looking for profits and the estimate of a Fed Gov agency used to higher estimates plus cost over runs.

      2. leonadasiv

        Yeah we should totally compare two numbers generated by two different groups…

  20. Juvenile Bluster

    Glibs with kids:

    Daughter’s turning 8 soon. She asked if she could get her ears pierced for her birthday, so we told her she could.

    Any of y’all ever taken your kid to a piercing or tattoo place to get her ears pierced? Really don’t want to use one of the mall places. Too many bad stories.

    1. Vhyrus

      If you don’t do it with a rusty roofing nail and a bic lighter you aren’t one of us.

    2. jesse.in.mb

      A real man would pierce his daughter’s ears with a nail gun and an apple like I used to do when I was a kid back in the ’50s. Next you’ll take you’ll be getting your oil changed–like some kind of woman–instead of doing it yourself.

    3. Hammercorps

      Really? My sister got hers pierced at the mall when she was about the same age, I think. Never had any problems.

    4. John Titor

      My sister got hers pierced by her friend’s weirdo Metis aunt. This is pretty close approximation to what her place looked like.

      1. But Enough About Me

        Ah, I recognize that building style. It’s Mid-century Rez Dilapidated. You can always tell when you’re driving through a rez damn near anywhere in Canada — the civilization stops and everything suddenly looks like this “house.”

        1. John Titor

          If Canada and the shitty parts of Mexico had a baby.

        2. Vhyrus

          Also quite common in the southwestern United States.

        3. Festus

          You didn’t build that!

      2. Festus

        Any rez, anywhere, Canada. The cupboards and interior doors have been burned for fire wood and the toilet stopped working awhile back so we just shit in the crawlspace hole.

    5. Florida Man

      Save money, do it yourself.

    6. Bobarian LMD

      There really ain’t a whole lot to the procedure, the trick is getting your kid to keep it clean afterwards.

      I think my daughter took 3 separate times because she wouldn’t take care of them right and would lose her shit if we tried to help.

    7. AlmightyJB

      Why are you asking us?

    8. But Enough About Me

      Back alleys or GTFO.

    9. Enough About Palin

      Just make certain that you go somewhere that opens a new pack containing a needle and cork that also uses gloves and a liberal amount of disinfectant. But I would add, I have worked with thousands of young women and girls and I would wait until she turns 10.

      1. Florida Man

        I have worked with thousands of young women and girls

        *tilts head*

        Roman Polanski?

    10. mexican sharpshooter

      You can actually get this done at a Doctor’s office.

    11. Tundra

      That’s about the age my daughter got hers done. It was at a local place, I can’t remember exactly – possibly a salon?

      No problems at all.

    12. My folks spent years trying to convince me to get my earlobes pierced. They finally dragged me into a Claire’s or and Icing or something when I was 13 and the trained professional (who was probably all of four years older than I was) did it with one of those guns. … Oy. They healed up fine and everything, but when I feel my earlobes between my thumb and forefinger, there’s definitely a build up of… tissue? Or something? Feels like tiny little balls. (hee)

      Of course, now I’ve got . . . 10 piercings total, so… joke’s on my folks! And all 8 of the rest were done at professional shops…and none of them have weird tissue build up.

      Definitely take her to a legit piercing place. I’d look around a little before you settle on one.

    13. DOOMco

      Look around for a well liked tattoo and piercing place. If they have good reviews for very odd piercings, they can easily handle some ears.

    14. Old Man With Candy

      SP advises “jewelry store.” Local jewelry store, not a mall kiosk.

    15. Mad Scientist

      I did mine with a stud myself. Numbed it up with ice and shoved the stud through while my sister watched. It went POP and it was through. My sister just about fainted. If you do it any other way, your daughter is not a real man.

    16. The Last American Hero

      Just did so last week. They did an excellent job not only with the work, but with prepping her mentally for the pain and gently convincing her to get both ears done at once when she balked after ear #1.

      Talk to other parents in her circle of friends for a recommendation.

  21. Glitterstorm

    Mr Lizard is a high IQ poster.

  22. AlmightyJB

    Elsa Pataky is hot

    1. Festus

      She’s getting to be at that roasted peanut in the shell stage, though.

  23. Worker and Parasite

    Sunny, a few wispy clouds, and 94 here. Hard to complain.

    1. jesse.in.mb

      Are you by a pool with a cocktail and orphans fanning you with palm fronds? Because if not, you’re being robbed.

      1. Worker and Parasite

        Chained to a desk as always. But at least I have a window…

  24. Juice

    Rain? This is the nicest day so far this year.

  25. Fatty Bolger

    So it looks like Judge Nap was basically right. Note the semantic convolutions in the second half of the article.

    British intelligence passed Trump associates’ communications with Russians on to US counterparts

    1. Juice

      Is he still fired?

    2. Raston Bot

      watching the progs try to jumpstart the trumputin hysteria momentum is lulzworthy.

      1. Ken Shultz

        If and when the British throw some of their spooks in jail over this, American progressives will still be claiming that Obama’s investigation of Trump 1) never happened and 2) proves that Trump is on the Kremlin’s payroll.

        1. american socialist

          Was there anything negative perhaps to trump in there? Or does it continue to be pure speculation and what ifs and maybe.

          1. Ken Shultz

            They’ve said it wasn’t about Trump per se, but some of the people in his campaign.

            When Nixon used the CIA, the FBI, and the IRS to go after his political opponents wasn’t just about targeting the Democrats’ nominee either.

    3. Ken Shultz

      You beat me to it!

    4. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      For those who have scrupulously avoided the history of the FVEY coordination project, the entire reason US intelligence pushed it was to obtain information on US persons. All the members had various laws preventing them from spying on their own people and all wanted that info. This was a win-win workaround was, as far as I know, an open secret in government/ the IC since it’s inception.

      1. Fatty Bolger

        Yep. You spy on ours, we’ll spy on yours, and then we’ll share the information.

  26. Ken Shultz

    Judge Napolitano is in the news in regards to the Trump surveillance story.

    “The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, claimed the “British spying agency” GCHQ had carried out the bugging. Spicer cited an unsubstantiated report on Fox News. Fox later distanced itself from the report.

    The claims prompted an extremely unusual rebuke from GCHQ, which generally refrains from commenting on all intelligence matters. The agency described the allegations first made by a former judge turned media commentator, Andrew Napolitano, as “nonsense”.

    “They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored,” a spokesperson for GCHQ said.

    Instead both US and UK intelligence sources acknowledge that GCHQ played an early, prominent role in kickstarting the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation, which began in late July 2016.”

    —-The Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia?CMP=share_btn_tw

    The gist of the article is that the British spy agency was completely full of shit, and Judge Napolitano was being just as honest as we all know him to be.

    Oh, and the Obama administration needs to be investigated for using our intelligence services in an attempt to interfere in the 2016 election. Every day in every way, we seem to find out more about how much everything the Obama administration said about this was bullshit.

    1. american socialist

      What do you make of the last para where it says a source says “corroborating evidence of collusion”

      1. Festus

        Buddy of mine had a dog that would snap at its own ass whenever it farted. This is what these “sources” are apt to be.

        1. american socialist

          To me Nune’s response, Pete king’s response and schiff’s lack of response after review are pretty telling imo. Schiff had been running his mouth and then reviewed, put out a statement saying should have reviewed with other folks and proper way

      2. Viking1865

        If they actually had some kind of hard evidence, a video, a document, an audio transcription, anything, it would be the lead story on every thing.

        1. american socialist

          Good point

        2. Ken Shultz

          They would have used it in the campaign if they had it. If Hillary wins, no one has to worry about being prosecuted for breaking the law–even if there’s a whistle blower.

          I don’t think they worried about doing this shit because they fully expected Hillary Clinton to win.

          That debate, the night after the crotch-grabbing tape came out, when Trump looked Hillary in the eye and said he was going to throw her in jail was maybe Trump’s greatest moment. His performance that night probably saved him. Only a narcissistic megalomaniac could have performed under those circumstances, and lucky for him, he is one.

          In July, they asked a FISA court for a warrant to do surveillance on Trump campaign team members, and the court turned them down–which almost never happens. The judge presumably thought their probable cause was insufficient.

          At that point, I suspect they just went ahead and decided to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. Yeah, they went back to a different judge and got a warrant in October, later, but that was probably a CYA maneuver after Comey took a grenade for Obama (on him having sent classified emails to Hillary’s server under an alias (because he knew it was illegal). The FBI was in revolt against Comey at the time . . .

          There needs to be an independent investigation. So far, everything Trump has said has turned out to be true–and everything the security services and the Obama administration said has turned out to be false.

    2. american socialist

      What i think is telling is the response by obama admin is “it wasn’t illegal!”

      1. Festus

        They remind of that weird kid with the smudgy glasses that always yelled about “Book of Hoyle! Book of Hoyle!” when you’re playing cards in the tree-house.

  27. Gilmore

    Those are some excellently bullet-pointed (and bolded!! SHINY) links there lou. Good work.

  28. american socialist

    So musk wants to unveil a semi in September? Shouldnt he focus on all the other programs first? An electric semi will go what 100 miles tops?

    Seems more and more it is a Ponzi scheme propped up by dupes and gov

    1. Festus

      My virtue is worth more than the $1000 I shelled out! “Go see Cal, Go see Cal Go See Cal!”

      1. square circle

        “Go see Cal, Go see Cal Go See Cal!”

        I see I’m not the only one who grew up in the LA-OC area in the 70s-80s . . .

        1. square circle

          True story – for about the first 10 years of seeing those commercials, I thought the line was “Pussy cow, pussy cow, pussy cow!” Which I thought was a joke about how his “dog Spot” was never actually a dog.

          Ah, childhood.

        2. Festus

          It was a big deal in the Seattle area which is where we got our American feeds from. Hell, I’m in the wilds of Canada and everyone my age knows about Cal Worthington and his dog Spot!

          1. square circle

            Huh – I thought he just had the one place in Long Beach or wherever the hell it was. You learn something new every day.

            I’ll bet you didn’t have Pete Ellis Dodge, though – “Long-Beach Free-Way, Fire-stone ex-it, South-gate!”

            Still have that damn jingle stuck in my head and it’s been 30 years easy.

          2. OneOut

            he has a dealership in Houston

            He was laughed at because of his out of style cowboy hat he wore in his commercials

          3. square circle

            My dad was a mechanic in the LA-OC area for several decades and got to know Pete Ellis personally. Said the guy is a major dickhead.

  29. Ken Shultz

    T = -1:24 on the Capitals beginning their march to immortality.

    I know, I’ve been saying that every year since the Boudreau era, but this time I think it’s different. We could probably have done it without Shattenkirk, but with him, too?

    Oh, and if you’re not a hockey fan but want to be, if and when the Penguins beat the Blue Jackets and the Capitals beat the Leafettes? The Capitals/Pens series will be some of the best, most spirited hockey anyone’s ever seen.

    I predict seven slobber-knockers in a row.

    1. Festus

      I was a huge hockey fan and even played into my twenties but when Bettman helped drown my Canucks in a gunny-sack circa 2011 I’ve since lost interest. Life’s too short to get excited about sportsball.

      1. DOOMco

        You dont want to hate others for what team they like?! Monster.

      2. Ken Shultz

        What are you talking about?

        You can’t build a playoff hockey team centered on Swedes–you weren’t going to win with the Sedins.

        You learn how to play playoff hockey either in the Canadian junior leagues–or in the NHL. They just don’t teach or play NHL playoff hockey in Sweden.

        You can win with a Finnish goalie, but that’s different.

        I should say, there are exceptions. If your name is Tomas Holmstrom, you’re a Swede who was born to playing NHL playoff hockey. I hear he he forechecked the doctor on his way out of the womb.

        Otherwise, that loss wasn’t about Bettman.

        1. Festus

          Don’t lecture me about hockey, son. Bettman’s butt-boy was the league enforcer and it just so happened that his son was playing for the Bruins. Boston got away with breaking one of our players back.

          1. Ken Shultz

            Bettman’s kid was playing for the Bruins, but that call didn’t involve Bettman’s kid–did it?

            How much of the resentment against Bettman in Canada–especially at the time–had to do with Bettman trying to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix, when Winnipeg didn’t have a team? How much of the resentment in Canada that year had to do with Chara not getting disciplined for his turnbuckle hit on MaxPac in the game against the Habs?

            That was a legitimate judgement call–even if I didn’t agree with it.

            The world isn’t a conspiracy against Vancouver winning the cup. It just seems that way because the Canucks have never won the cup.

            I know it eats at you, night and day, but the Capitals have never won either. Do you think that’s different because they’re American? My folks bought season tickets their first year in existence. I grew up playing myself and cheering for Dennis Maruk. I know what it’s like.

            I also know that you’ll be back to the NHL again as soon as the Canucks start to contend. But if they go the big one and lose again, it won’t be because of Bettman and his kid.

            Face it, that Sedin team simply wasn’t tough enough. They were all finesse players–so teams like Boston could play physical Canadian junior style hockey and win! That why your players got beat up. Bringing a finesse team to the cup is like bringing swiss army knives to a gun fight.

          2. Ken Shultz

            Everybody in Canada hated Bettman and Boston that year for this hit:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jimZ1tSdPY0

            You heard the same cries at the time about favoritism because of Bettman’s kid in the aftermath of that hit, too.

          3. Festus

            I know that I’m biased but the “rule-book” was defrenestrated, curb-stomped, burned in effigy and then rode outta town on a rail. You and I will just have to meet in single combat.

          4. Festus

            This is why I don’t follow sports quite so avidly anymore.

          5. Ken Shultz

            i’ve felt like that in the past.

            That’s what’s going to make winning the cup so sweet when it finally happens.

            It’s all part of the journey.

            Someday, we’ll get that monkey off our backs.

            It could be worse. You could be a Leafs fan!

        2. The Last American Hero

          2007-08 Red Wings disagree. 9 Swedes and a Finn, although there were several Canadians and Russians as well.

          1. Ken Shultz

            Did I or did I not mention Holstrom?

          2. The Last American Hero

            They also had Zetterberg and Franzen The Mule as key players, plus half a dozen other Scandis. Oh, and Nick Lidstrom, one of the greatest defenders of all time. It wasn’t just the dude screening the goalie.

          3. Ken Shultz

            Lidstrom is who I meant rather than Holstrom.

            Maybe the greatest defender of all time.

            Anyway, that’s the exception that proves the rule.

            If there’s an exception to the rule, then there must be a rule, right?

            I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with being Swedish, for god’s sake. I’m saying that the way the NHL post season is, generally speaking, that form of hockey is only taught (outside the NHL) in the Canadian junior leagues.

            The rules and practice in the Swedish leagues simply don’t allow hitting like they have it in the NHL. And when you’re playing the same team, seven times in a row in the playoffs, you need to have come up in a system that teaches you how to excel despite getting hit over and over and over and over again. In the playoffs, if a team can beat you by simply hammering you for five games, and leaving your broken and busted for the last two–they’ll do that. That’s a legitimate way to win a series in the playoffs–or the the Stanley Cup.

            Having finesse players will not help you. What happened to the Canucks in 2011 was that the Sedins were used to playing one team at a time. Hitting you so hard it makes you sore for a week doesn’t matter much during the regular season–because you won’t be playing the same team again. In the playoffs, when you may play the same team seven times in a row, all your finesse isn’t going to help you. They hit the Sedins in that series so many times, it was ridiculous–and it wore them down. The Canucks only had to win one of the last two games to win the series. They lost game 6, 2-5, and they were shut out in game 7, 0-4.

            The reason they lost wasn’t because the Sedins aren’t talented. The reason they lost is because the Sedins couldn’t play that style of hockey. The reason they couldn’t play that style of hockey is because there’s no exposure to that style of hockey outiside of the NHL playoffs–and the Canadian junior leagues.

            The Capitals had the same problem in the Boudreau era. Ovechkin has always been a physical player, but he wasn’t used to getting bumped off his game either. When people would start forechecking and checking and checking, it would slow him down. And his long time center, Backstrom, didn’t learn how to win that way in the Swedish league either.

            You know who never had that problem?

            Sydney Crosby.

            European teams do much better in the Olympics, where they don’t have NHL hitting rules, they have wider passing lanes and a larger surface. North American hockey is just different. That the Americans and the Canadians do so well in international play as well is a real testament to how awesome we are at hockey–especially the Canadians.

            You know I’m not Canadian, right? I’m just giving credit where credit is due. If you want to do well in the playoffs, you better have a fair number of Canadians playing offense on your team.

            . . . or an offensive minded Swede named Niklas Lidstrom.

    2. LynchPin1477

      I’m not going to get ahead of myself but if it comes to that, Pens in 6

      1. Ken Shultz

        That’s insulting.

        The Caps beat them how many times this year? We’ve got home ice throughout the playoffs–and even I’m saying the Caps in 7.

        You have to at least give us seven games.

        1. The Last American Hero

          You are confusing Playoff Caps with Regular Season Caps. It’s a common mistake that Mid-Atlantic people often make.

          1. Ken Shultz

            We’ve built a different team.

            This team is built for the playoffs like the 2011 Canucks were built for the regular season.

          2. Festus

            Ow! The sick! It Burns! Good one, Ms. Shultz.

          3. Ken Shultz

            Caps are down two goals early.

            Should I blame Bettman?

          4. The Last American Hero

            I’m pretty sure the Caps not living up to their potential in the spring is an Iron Law or something.

          5. Ken Shultz

            There’s a reason for it. I addressed that reason above, and I think the team has addressed that reason.

            We’ve got plenty of two way players on the team, now. Nobody’s going to bump us off our game this year. We can play as physical as anybody.

            The only team that scares me is the Pens.

          6. Ken Shultz

            In regards to what I was saying above about getting hit so much and winning anyway.

            According to this, during the regular season, teams made an average of about 20+ hits per game.

            https://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/team-hit-statistics/2016/

            According to these stats from the link below, first game of the playoffs, the Caps made 52 hits and the Leafs made 47.

            That used to be the way to beat the caps in the playoffs. Its only the first game, but we won despite that this time. We’ve just got a different team now. Ovechkin isn’t given the TOI to score like he has in the past, but if we’re knocking the slobber out of everybody, absorbing hits like tonight, and have still been winning all season anyway, then we’re a different team than we used to be.

  30. Zero Sum Game

    Personal values trump education as driving factor in populist successes
    Dismissing backers of populist causes as not very smart is wrong, study finds

    The implication is that we have cause and effect the wrong way round. Instead of the university experience shaping our values and attitudes, it is our pre-existing value systems that — either conscious or otherwise — influence the choices we make about our journey through education, including the decision of whether or not to leave the familiar surroundings of home and go to university.

    Of course, these findings are probably only going to make the proggies switch their argument. I can hear it now, “They don’t go to college because they’re racist, xenophobic, homophobic misogynists. They’re so bad that they’ll hurt themselves to avoid us.” When your worldview is that twisted, you can turn anything into a “wining” argument.

    Intelligence and knowledgability aren’t the same thing, either. Some of the smartest people I’ve known do not have degrees or any desire to obtain one. In fact, one ought to expect that a particularly bright autodidact may forgo an education if they see it as in their best interests to do so. For example, if one has a really good idea and goes on to start a business based on it, then the education they have is not important to their success – their employer is themselves and they don’t need to pass an interview to get the job.

    1. Vhyrus

      Exactly. The person who is successful with no degree is considerably better off than one who had to go to college to get a job.

      1. Glitterstorm

        Yeah I regret college for majoring in my hobby (history) and then never reading another history book again. WOOO I fucking cranked myself.

    2. Gadfly

      Formal education is overrated. Education is great, but it is a sign of ignorance to believe it can only be achieved (or even achieved best) at an institution.

  31. american socialist

    From where i am certain it look’s like trump’s tweets in march tend to be coming correct and if there was evidence of collusion, with all the leaks how has it not come out yet?

    Ben Rhodes becoming unhinged, Schiff didn’t run his mouth after review, the cnn wolf interview with other dem who wasn’t being specific while wolf kept trying to jump to a conclusion, dems claiming not illegal

    1. american socialist

      And didn’t hillary campaign claim those emails had no effect in october? and obama didn’t seem to care about russians much in october…he just brushed them off when they thought hillary was going to win

      1. Festus

        Well that’s the whole deal in a nut shell, ain’t it? The Hare inexplicably lost the race so it’s obvious that the Tortoise was using PEDs! They’re never gonna get over those Supreme Court appointments that “shoulda bean”.

    2. Fatty Bolger

      But no wires were tapped!! No actual wires at all!! Plus you can’t prove Obama was involved!! It was all just routine and independent surveillance and information passing and unmasking and standard intelligence reports to the White House!! Happens every day!!

      So anyway… it kinda looks to me like the truth about the GCHQ’s involvement was about to hit the fan, so they decided to get out ahead of it and spin it as best they could.

      1. Yeah; ABC was spinning it as this proves that Trump was collaborating with the Russians.

  32. Pan Zagloba

    I is disappoint. PM Zoolander’s government tables pot legalization and you people do nothing with it? Is this what John Candy died for?

    Conservative health critic Colin Carrie questioned the bill’s ability to keep pot out of the hands of youth, and to keep stoned drivers off the roads. He accused the federal government of imposing unclear laws designed to help pot smokers but force the provinces to pay.

    “He’s made this promise, but there really isn’t any clarity, and I’d like to see what he does have there for the provinces and municipalities, because it looks like they’re going to be stuck with implementing it. They’re going to be stuck with enforcing it. And at the end of the day, how much is this going to cost?”

    Thanks for keeping up with your assigned place as Natural Opposition, Tories. Wouldn’t want to endanger PM Zoolander’s second term, there…

    1. Festus

      I swear if the Tories in my country were any more stupid they’d try to ban “spin-the-bottle” wherever young teens gather to drink stolen beer and smoke illicit pot.

      1. Festus

        No more Sock-Hops or Ice Cream Socials, either.

    2. John Titor

      Hey someone’s got to cash in on the Scared Old People vote Pan, you wouldn’t want to, say, improve your image after you got your ass handed to you last election or anything.

      I don’t care that much because cronyist tax grab and I’m still not allowed to smoke it. Least the black market will keep running.

      1. Pan Zagloba

        Then at least go Full Retard and appeal to scared old people! I mean, it would still be stupid, but it would be stupid in a way that means SOMETHING.

        The word salad of “objection” I quoted can literally be applied to anything federal government ever does!

        1. John Titor

          You don’t clearly get their 4D game of chess Pan. Think about it, randomly and vaguely bitching about change but providing no decent alternatives or even a coherent logic to your argument? Total Scared Old Person move.

          They’ve got to work that base, the Liberals have the Scared Young People and the NDP have the Scared Union Guys all locked up.

        2. Festus

          This is the funniest part. The “stupid old people” that they’re trying to appeal to grew up smoking pot. I smoked nearly everyday from the late 70’s to the early 90’s. Who ARE these old people?

          1. John Titor

            Not stupid old people, scared old people, which run the gambit from the Squares back in your day to the people who ‘grew up’ and now thinks people shouldn’t be allowed to make the same choices they did.

            Like my mom, a bloody flower child in the 70s who did ACID AT SIXTEEN doesn’t want marijuana legalized. Her reasoning? “It’s just so much more powerful nowadays.”

          2. Pan Zagloba

            Wait, your mom is Margaret Wente? Total respect.

    1. Glitterstorm

      “Computer scientists have uncovered” gets me every time

      1. Festus

        Yeah, Higgs Boson and all…

      2. american socialist

        Yea, Ken’s article talks about FISA for banks….and Hillary seems to know about it

    2. Fatty Bolger

      Here’s the referenced Slate article: Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?

      1. Glitterstorm

        “Some of the most trusted DNS specialists—an elite group of malware hunters, who work for private contractors—have access to nearly comprehensive logs of communication between servers”

        It sounds like they were trying to stretch a paper for a final.

        1. Fatty Bolger

          an elite group of malware hunters

          The 01000001-Team.

  33. american socialist

    Trump and russia colluding to release wikileaks makes no sense.

    How would trump know what was in those emails and that they existed? If russia just hacked without knowledge prior why would they let Trump campaign know to get in on it….it isn’t as if they needed Trump to release them.

    They didn’t have much of an effect anyway even if they looked like aholes. Why did the dnc deny the FBI looking at it?

    1. Festus

      It’s a paradigm shift when the MSM is basically pocket trained and someone let’s a weasel loose in the room. The DNC was stupidly hoping that everyone hadn’t discovered the interwebs, yet.