SSG Juantrea T. Bradley, SPC Tenzin L. Samten, and SPC Dustin C. Jackson. I did not know them personally. But right after I got to the base at Talill, Iraq (March 2008) they were killed by a 107mm rocket that landed right on the pickup truck they were taking to pick up some local workers at the front gate (I was trying to scrub a layer of dust off in the shower at the time of impact. How is that for martial glory?). Two of them died instantly, one made it a few hours more before succumbing to his injuries.
A few days later, their names were added to a memorial wall on base, and their friends and fellow Soldiers told us about them in their eulogies; they were close friends, and someone’s husbands, fathers, and sons. Their stories differed, certainly, but they all came back in the end to the impact they made on their fellows – the NCO who was a friend and mentor (that one really hurt to hear – the pain lent the speaker eloquence and clarity) the cheerful Soldier who never left a comrade without a good word or thought, the soldier with the great and selfless desire to serve and to help. Then the final call of the Roll, Taps being played…it hits home in a way that is hard to describe.
I have known others that have been killed. But that seemed to make it….personal. This hit in a different way. Why them? What the Hell were they doing that was so wrong or so dangerous? They were just getting some guys in to help build a damned gravel road….it wasn’t a bayonet charge against a machine gun nest! But it was a Soldier’s Risk, so you accepted it and moved on. Though I must confess, if I never hear Taps again, I would be fine with that.
But now, on Memorial Day – I cannot help but think about them again. Obviously their families remember them, know what they were doing, and today is but another slightly more sad day than all the others. But does the day set aside for just such remembering have any impact on the thoughts of others?
Certainly, there are solemn ceremonies at various cemeteries and memorials across the country.

My town’s Civil War memorial. The town lost a tenth or more of its military aged men.
But the number of people who have direct experience, so to speak, are lessening. The people who fought in the huge conflicts, in mass conscript armies and navies are becoming rarer, as time marches on. So are the family members who lost a close/immediate relative in those conflicts. Ours (US and Canada – this is glibertarians.com after all) is a professional, and volunteer armed forces. They are also smaller than what has been around for most of the 20th Century to today. Soon enough, it will be my turn to be the white haired, bent with age and infirmity, but-still-attending-the-ceremonies guy. What will I remember?
Those that died during the various wars, police actions, interventions, kinetic whatevers – whether they were conscript or volunteer – paid the highest price anyone can. THAT is what I wish people could remember. You can be vehemently against the involvement the country had in the conflict in which they died, but they didn’t cause that involvement…. They sure as Hell paid for it, though.
You will hear the word “hero” bandied about rather a lot this day. But it doesn’t matter if the person who died was heroically fending off a wave of enemies (i.e. SFC Paul Smith) – or just going to the front gate at Talill to pick up some day laborers? Either way…They lost EVERYTHING. Their families lost their father/son/brother, mother/daughter/sister. Juantrea Bradley and Tenzin Samten never got to see their children again (between them, they had 7 kids). Their children never got to see their fathers ever again.
In some military and veteran circles, it is popular to rail against the mattress sales and “the unofficial start of the barbecue season” and the like. I will not stamp my foot, demanding people be solemn and quiet. Personally, if that Jaish al-Mahdi version of Davey Crockett (SOB was landing 107s on my tiny camp with shocking accuracy from a long way off) in Spring of 2008 had nudged his launches a tiny tap to the left – I wouldn’t be here… and I would want my family to remember me with grilling and toasting with high quality beverages, while throwing around a frisbee or playing volleyball in the back yard.
But do, please, take a moment to remember that a fair number of people over the whole of this last bloody century (or two) have had their lives snatched away because they were put in harm’s way. Just war, unjust war, ambiguous war…it doesn’t matter to the dead. Just remember what happened to them, please.
BONUS RANT: The past few years it has become semi-fashionable for people to say “thank a veteran or someone in the Armed Forces today” – save that for Veteran’s Day, Memorial Day is about the dead. They had life taken from them early – and that should be the primary thing in focus. Oh, and for the people who have started adding in police, firefighters, “first responders” – KNOCK IT OFF.
Oh, and keep yer fookin’ politics out of it, period. I don’t give a fig who was CinC when someone got killed, where or when. Shut yer gob about neo-cons, Islamoappeasers or whatnot. The dead don’t need that crap, nor do their families. Just remember, somebody got the ultimate short end of the stick – and it wasn’t you.
First!
Well said Swiss. Remember the dead. People forget that.
We’ve noticed as each passing year goes by, we see less and less of our Veterans selling poppies for Remembrance Day as they slowly pass on. It’s sobering. For my age group, it’s an interesting thing to observe. The connection is slowly severed.
In part, that is good – fewer people that had to go to war. But forgetting the whole thing….that doesn’t help the next time that war is an option.
Yes, this is a great piece.
A former coworker, a Brit expat, always wore poppies for Armistice Day.
DO YOU EVEN WORK!?
/quietly stares back at TEE biting into banana.
The young dead soldiers do not speak.
Nevertheless, they are heard in the still houses:
who has not heard them?
They have a silence that speaks for them at night
and when the clock counts.
They say: We were young. We have died.
Remember us.
They say: We have done what we could
but until it is finished it is not done.
They say: We have given our lives but until it is finished
no one can know what our lives gave.
They say: Our deaths are not ours: they are yours,
they will mean what you make them.
They say: Whether our lives and our deaths were for
peace and a new hope or for nothing we cannot say,
it is you who must say this.
We leave you our deaths. Give them their meaning.
We were young, they say. We have died; remember us.
by Archibald MacLeish
That’s really good. I’m going to share that.
BONUS RANT: The past few years it has become semi-fashionable for people to say “thank a veteran or someone in the Armed Forces today” – save that for Veteran’s Day, Memorial Day is about the dead. They had life taken from them early – and that should be the primary thing in focus. Oh, and for the people who have started adding in police, firefighters, “first responders” – KNOCK IT OFF.
I’ll probably offend people, but to me all of this seems to be an increasing fetishization of serving the state as being somehow being both sufficient and necessary to be a hero. It’s something that should be a deeply worrying trend.
I also wonder how many of the people who wear yellow ribbons to “support the troops” also oppose restoring rights to released felons, seeing the original song was about a guy who was just getting out of jail after three long years.
A bit too much worshiping of uniforms, yeah.
I’ve mentioned it before, but a few years back on Veterans’ Day on another forum I mentioned that I’d thank my dad, who had 18 months stolen out of his life courtesy of the peacetime draft, which he spent at White Sands Missile Range keeping the Ernst Blofelds of the world from getting their hands on those missiles. People got really pissed at this.
I should also add I hate the term “first responders”. To me it comes across as a sort of Newspeak, trying to create some jargon as if to separate regular people from those who work for the State. I noticed it with my mom, who was a teacher’s aide for special ed students. That’s understandable; her official title was the rather vague “paraprofessional”. (What’s the difference between a paraprofessional and a para-amateur?) The teachers’ union propaganda, however, called such people SRPs, for “school-related personnel”, which seems deliberately designed to obfuscate. Much like “officer-involved shooting”.
I wouldn’t call it newspeak, it’s just a term used to lump together firemen, police, paramedics – anybody whose job it is to respond immediately to an emergency.
It is misleading. First responders are usually people who are there when it happens. Often the uniforms just show up later to clean up the mess.
I was an unwitting first responder less than a year ago. A guy I work with crushed himself between a suspended load and and a concrete pedestal. I happened to be the closest person when he called for help on the radio. I was only there by myself for a few minutes by myself before more help arrived. It was 30 minutes before an ambulance couod get to us, but I think we first responded as well as can be expected by a bunch of amateurs. We managed to quell the bleeding from his mostly severed hand and get him laid down flat in a manner that made the pain his crushed hips and abdomen somewhat more tolerable.
It’s fun aint it? A couple of times here too. A house fire and a car wreck for me.
People ask me why I dont get out much. “Because every time I go out it reminds me why I dont get out much.”
Also, something you haven’t mentioned that is worth a mention.
Steel. It’s fuckin’ heavy. Unless you have worked with steel it is easy to not understand just how heavy and dangerous that shit is.
I didn’t enjoy it. This happened in january and the guy is still not back at work. I saw a video of him walking with a walker last week. It’s sad. He is only 25 years old and will probably never be right again. To add to that, his second child was born about a month ago.
A funny part of the story though. Not five minutes after the incident, He looked at his mangled hand, then looked at me and said, “God damn it, that’s my trigger hand. I’m not going to able to hunt anymore.”
Good news, the doctors were able to reattach his hand and he has better than 80% use of it.
A related, old sentiment.
“Steel. It’s fuckin’ heavy.”
About 3 years ago I pulled up a steel floor plate to access the wiring underneath it. It was 8ftx8ftx3/4in. I had an overhead crane operator hook onto it and move it out. I crawled into the hole and did the wiring job I was working on. When I was done, I had the crane operator pick the plate back up and we worked together to guide it back into the recess it fit in. We had it positioned just about right and I was having him lower his hoist as I was guiding it in. I was using my hands and thighs to keep the piece steady as he lowered. I got my feet in front of my thighs and the plate started setting down just above my knees with my lower legs underneath it. I started feeling a huge amount of pressure on my legs. I gave a hand signal for the crane operater to hoist up and he did. That probably saved me from two broken legs. I thanked the operator later. I damn near made a mistake that could have cost me my livelihood. Instead I ended up with some bruised thighs and a greater sense of caution.
Yes, steel is heavy.
There is no substitute for taking your time, triple or quadruple-checking your work strategy, and involving non-tissue implements like poles, hooks, and pry-bars in a situation like that. Taking 4x the time is always worth it, especially since there’s already a crane doing the dangerous part for you.
You nailed it Pomp. I do dangerous work, but it doesn’t have to be. I have been working heavy industry for 11 years now. Every year I grow more cautious. There are things I did without a care 10 years ago that I wouldn’t dream of attempting now.
You live, You learn. If you live.
I had a crew working on a lift/dock across the canal from my house for a couple of weeks this month. They had a crane on a dock to lift the poles into position and a huge steel pile driver attachment. It was a two man crew working on a small barge…. in windy conditions.
There was lots of swearing involved. Lots and lots of loud and angry swearing. I don’t know how they managed to avoid getting hurt. They had loads swinging loose in an unexpected direction a lot. Pretty much every time they lifted a piling. It made me glad I wasn’t doing that job…. and it kinda made me want to go and offer them a couple of hundred bucks to give the job to someone else. They scared the crap out of me, the way they tossed that weight around.
A few years ago I was in that role in a laundromat for an old lady who’d been conked on the head by her own cane wielded by a younger woman. I saw it happen from the other side of a row of machines. Fortunately I carry a lot of napkins, which were useful to stop the bleeding.
I go to shows and people spill their drinks a lot. No one (but me) ever thinks to grab a bunch of napkins.
I’m reading old threads and saw the bit about your car. Sorry. Good to hear you are OK.
Oh hell yes. As I recall, that was made up in the days after 9/11 and everyone ran with it. STOP IT.
It dates back a lot further than that. Did seem to come more into vogue after 9/11, though.
Completely agree with this. Police, firefighter, etc. are not first responders. They are an after-the-fact response. The total worship of some of these professions by people is very sad to see.
I could swear I’ve seen news reports on TV where they talk about somebody who was out in the wilderness and found a person in distress, the person goes back to get help, and then first responders arrived. It’s maddening.
A way to instantly start fury in me is to hear a cop or “first responder” refer to their fellow Americans as “civilians.” Hey you POS you are a civilian just like the rest of us. You don’t want to be a civilian? The recruiting station is right over there and the Army and Marines are looking for people.
When the number of cops killed by gunfire in a year exceeds the number of innocent people they execute each year for a decade I will think about considering the danger of their job.
I read something a number of years ago having to do with dealing with emergency situations within the context of “homeland security” type stuff, back when it was just starting up. This was when it hadn’t fully metastasized into just another excuse for expanded bureaucracy and infringement of rights. It was a quote from a guy to the effect of, “If you see an emergency and don’t see a person in charge, it’s you.” Nowadays that encourages a dangerous level of independence, and nobody would ever advise doing anything but notifying authorities and letting the experts handle the situation. Otherwise you might get people doing things like handling problems on their own, in which case why do you need the authorities?
If this site had upvotes, I’d upvote your comment.
Instead I’ll just leave this useless one and mention that it really grates on me when, in the middle of the fucking prayer to their imaginary sky fairy buddy at the start of NASCAR races, they pull out some good old fashioned government worship. I guess the only way I could be more incensed is if they insulted marijuana and/or Mexicans somehow.
And these are the people who claim to be more patriotic than the rest of us because they suck military and cop dick and wave bigger flags.
I am only going to talk about this once today and then I want to talk about bbq recipes.
There were people I may have disagreed with, argued with or not even liked very much. There are even some guys I really disliked. I look back over the decades since and think about all I have had. Wife, children, grandchildren. Fun, accomplishments, vast experience and learning. The wisdom I have gained. Life is good and they missed all of that, and for what? I might have thought some of those guys were shitheels at the time but knowing what I know now, how much people can learn and grow over time they deserved a chance to grow out of it. And maybe… dont tell anyone I said this…I was wrong. Maybe I was the shitheel. I have had a few moments like this in my life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU
I will be thinking of them today, the ones who dont get a chance to bbq. One in particular and I am not even sure why he is the one who popped in my head.
And maybe… dont tell anyone I said this…I was wrong.
I’m sure you’re used to your wife telling you that. :-p
(The comment holds for everyone here who has a wife, a number which does not include yours truly. And this is why there are no libertarian women….)
Key to a happy marriage: Later, when it turns out you were not wrong, never ever ever ever ever say “I told you so”. Just keep it to yourself.
Now you tell me. I usually do an end zone dance followed by a “Oooooh Yeaaah, Baby”.
Like, old school Billy “White Shoes” Johnson type dance, right?
Always with the racist shoes.
I’ve learned in marriage that the hills you think are worth dying on ain’t
Slammer gets it.
Straffin….dude….you must have a very comfortable couch.
I let her know when she’s wrong. She sure as hell isn’t pulling any punches when I’m wrong. All in good fun, though.
Damn right. Never admit you were right.
This is what people tell me I’m weird for not wanting when I say I never want to get married?
Have you been listening to Naked Ape?
No, Turd Flinging Monkey. Some very disturbing stuff.
Cool link, bro.
OK, not sure why the link is now gone. When I first posted it during break I could’ve sworn it worked. Oh well, let’s try again.
It’s too rainy to take my ice-cream cart out so I’m nursing this Buffalo Trace and thinking of SSG. James Michael Lawrence. Mike was my roommate in boot camp, my squad mate and roommate in the 7th ID (Light) and stayed in the Army when I reached ETS. He went SF, HALO, was on a Delta track and was murdered at a house party in Fayetteville, NC in 1994. I love you and miss you forever brother. This song always make me weep and is, I feel, most appropriate for today.
Thank you for sharing a small part of your friend’s story. Indeed a sad song.
Took me too long to get around to looking up the namesake of the troopship in “Starship Troopers” but I finally did it a few years ago.
Part of his wiki entry reads:
Rodger Young
Looking at the voluntary decisions in light of medical issues, etc makes me cry every time I read it.
You can hear one version of the original song – the one that Heinlein cites – on his wiki page . I bought the Burl Ives version off itunes.
Not directly related, but somewhat topical. From 3 years ago.
To the everlasting glory of the infantry.
Merck makes history:
“…But the big wave from the FDA was the announcement that MRK has been given approval for pembrolizumab in patients with a certain biomarker (we’ll get to that in a second). This approval is for any patient, so long as they’ve failed other options, and have evidence of the biomarker. That’s pediatric patients. That’s adults. That’s any tumor.
This is the first time a drug has been approved in cancer without a tumor-specific context. And I’m still personally amazed by that. Today, we’re discussing what that means for MRK and the field.”
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4077023-merck-just-made-history-care-investor?ifp=0
“…The approval comes for any patients whose tumors are MSI-H or MMRd. MSI-H is “microsatellite instability-high,” and this refers to your genome’s microsatellites, regions in your genetic code that are prone to mutation naturally, which become even more unstable and result in a large number of mutations, and potentially cancer.”
This is pretty awesome. The FDA approval process is ridiculous in that you can only test it on one indication at a time, all the way through every phase. You can’t do a complete research study to determine the drug’s broad effectiveness. No, you have to take it through at least 3 expensive phases of trials all for one very specific indication for a specific purpose and you’ll only be approved for those specific indications if your drug beats “the standard of care.” But what if your drug works best with a certain segment of patients than “the standard of care”? Too bad, those patients are supposed to take the less effective drug (for them) first and only when their condition becomes worse can they then can use the more effective treatment. This is fucked up when it comes to really serious things like cancer. You’re not allowed to take a treatment that would likely rid you of your cancer or stop it in its tracks unless you are proven to be “relapsed” or “refractory” which just means the “standard of care” didn’t work for you, but it’s the “standard of care” because it worked for a majority of patients in the trials. It’s an outdated, ridiculously expensive system designed to create winners and losers and keep the “winners” in place for as long as possible as long as they can afford it.
Goddamned Big Pharma and their evuul profit motives.
Thanks, Swiss. Hopefully, some people this year, and more the next year and even more the next, will realize that sending men to put their lives on the line for one’s country should be only as a last resort and not to buoy flagging politicians approval numbers or to some cavalier pursuance of realpolitik dreams.
Good post swiss.
My little brother did a tour in Iraq. His unit was one of the last to leave when we supposedly pulled our troops out of Iraq in 2012. He doesn’t speak of his time there much, but it changed him. Subtlety, but I can tell. I know he was awarded a combat infantry badge, so I know he saw some real combat. One night, a little over a year ago, Me and Zach got pretty drunk and he spilled his guts about a buddy getting killed in a mortar strike in northern Iraq. I don’t remember the details, but I know it affected him deeply. I will make it a point to talk to my brother today. Memorial day is for the dead. you are correct about that. There are many who are not dead dead who bear the scars of our wars that deserve a bit of remembrance of their past selves on this day as well.
Audio.
Transcript.
Advice From A Vet On The ‘Rude Awakening’ Of Transition To Civilian Life, or one of those errant human interest stories that keep some folks listening to the insanity of NPR.
Also in the spirit of this day: Sands of Iwo Jima by The Drive By Truckers, from my favourite album The Dirty South.
Ballad of the Reuben James – Highwaymen version. Prefer it over Guthrie.
My grandfather was born in 1919. When Pearl Harbor was bombed, he joined the army. Eventually, he stormed the beaches of Normandy. Im sure he witnessed more death than I can imagine. He survived and married my grandmother and fathered 9 children. When he died in 2014, he had 7 living children, 21 grandchildren, and 14 great grandchildren. I believe he was a very happy man and proud of his legacy. Those that died on the day he stormed Normandy never had that opportunity.
See, this is why you should target civilians.If that’s what makes the people you’re warring against most uncomfortable, yeah. But where you gonna et enough cats?
We’ll only need one more cat. Then a hammer.
*self serving derp*
What do you think you’re accomplishing?
*more self serving rubbish*
I missed it, but apparently whatever you posted was deemed unacceptable by the mods; hence, you get a cat-butt.
The hammer they are referring to is the ban-hammer. One more unacceptable comment and you get another cat-butt. One more after that and you get the ban-hammer…you’re gone.
*derp and sealioning*
griefing or sealioning?
*please, pay attention to me *
That’s an appropriate Cat-Butting. good call.
Next time, he gets the banhammer. I contemplated zorching him immediately, but we are fairly consistent on the two strikes and you are gone. So, one strike left.
*derp*
*feigned ignorance*
If you think you need to feign it, you’re giving yourself too much credit, chief.
That was my ediorializing, Bill.
Oh. It wasn’t clear to me from the threading. Still isn’t, to be honest, but I’ll take your word for it.
My mom’s corned beef
4 – 5 Ibs. corned beef
2 bay leaves
5 peppercorns
2 sprigs fresh parsley
1 stalk celery, cut in chunks
1 small onion, sliced
Whole cloves
2 tblsp. butter
1 tblsp. prepared mustard
1/3 cup brown sugar
1/6 cup ketchup
2 tblsp. vinegar
1 tblsp. rum
Wash corned beef thoroughly to remove brine. Place in large kettle; cover with cold water. Add bay leaves, peppercorns, parsley, celery and onion. Bring to a boil; reduce heat. Cover and simmer 3 1/2 hours or until meat is tender. Remove beef to shallow baking dish. Insert whole cloves in it. Melt butter in saucepan; add remaining ingredients and mix thoroughly. Cook over medium heat 5 minutes, stirring occasionally. Pour sauce over corned beef. Bake in 350° oven
30 minutes, basting with the sauce several times. Serve hot or cold.
Yum.
How long do you brine it for? A week? 10 days?
We buy the packaged brisket that is already brined; we stock up and fill a chest freezer when the St. Patrick’s Day sales bring it down to around $0.30 per lb. If doing brine at home, I would let it soak overnight. Truth be told, I don’t have very much experience with brining at home; I just follow Chris Kimball’s lead on the subject.
You heathen.
Gotta do your own brine, man. It cuts the price in half and you can make a better corned beef.
I’ll brine mine for between 7 and 10 days depending on what I’m doing. And I’ve taken to splitting a brisket into thirds and doing two the traditional way and taking the third and draining the brine and replacing it with some fajita smoke marinade for an extra day and then cooking it. It creates a totally different and delicious taste.
That sounds yummy and now I have new projects, thanks. I’ve always been much more of a baker.
Baking? I can’t bake. It’s for mathematicians and aspies.
If I wanted to follow instructions to the letter, I’d have joined the Army or become a baker.
Speaking of baking, a guy I used to know that used to work as a chemical engineer for Duracell said that chemical engineering is just glorified baking.
My kid reneged on her agreement last week to finish 3 bananas, and therefore nobody in the house but myself was willing to touch bananas with some brown on the skins. Although I eat much less bread than I used to, decided to change things up a bit and make my first loaf of banana bread. I broke out a recipe from The Joy of Cooking, which calls for baking powder, and it then occurred to me that there’s more than ample sugar in this recipe between the bananas and the additive cane sugar to activate some yeast. No surprise at all, using yeast is a far superior method, so long as you mix the banana sludge in with the egg and sugar to activate it for a long enough time.
You mean you need the yeast to be mixed with the bananas, eggs, and sugar for some time before the flour? A few months ago one of the first things I tried baking was banana bread, and I did use yeast, but I don’t remember taking any particular care like that. That was shortly after I started making cider and wondered what to do with the opened packets of yeast. I’ve had more success with pizza, though — in fact I like my pizza better than from pizzerias, and I’ve even fancied it up by garlicking & herbing the dough, which is now my standard way to to it.
My family, thankfully, doesn’t have much military history – even through the generations.
My grandfather was in WW2, but only served as POW guard for some Japanese soldiers in the Philippines. He never saw any combat duty. In my parents collection of family “stuff” there are some pencil sketches of my mom when she was a little girl. It was done by one of the Japanese prisoners, using a photograph that my grandfather carried.
My other grandfather was never in the military. His entire life was a battle with pain from his various health problems. I imagine he was a 4-F from the get-go.
My own dad was too young for Korea and too old for Vietnam, or else the latter was deferred since he already had two kids by the time the war was at it’s peak. My uncle got out of combat by being in the National Guard, ala George Bush.
As for myself, I almost joined the Army after high school, but decided that leaving my-then girlfriend-now-wife and my cush life was too hard of a road to take. So I went to college instead.
And I’m thankful for living in a time and place where such decisions are possible – and for living in a country where the most violent thing I ever experienced is a car accident. And it is thanks to the soldiers who did serve.
Ah – I stupidly forgot my nephew who did one tour in Iraq and two in Afghanistan. He was a corpsman and I have no idea what he saw out there. But he’s pretty messed up in the head now – was a sweet little kid, now an alcoholic with anger issues. My old man ended up bailing my nephew out – an incident with whiskey, a handgun, and the police.
IMO it’s a result of the declining percentage of combat veterans. In 1947, when Jack McCoy on the assembly line started shaking in the middle of the day because someone dropped a tool behind him, the guy next to him was going through the same thing. The foreman called for a coffee break, because he also knew. If Jack crawled into a bottle, his parish priest had rode a troopship and prayed with the men while the the U-Boats tried to put them on the bottom. His brother or brother in law had similar experiences and could relate. His dad had been in the AEF in 1918, and he knew too. Just like he wasn’t alone in combat, he wasn’t alone with the struggle of PTSD. There were neighbors, friends, relatives going through it.
It’s not like that anymore. There’s a lot more well meaning civilian groups, and there’s more government funding, and there’s more mental health professionals, but I think that what really helps is having friends and relatives who can relate, who can empathize not just sympathize. A well meaning friend or relative who has a CIB of his own is probably worth more than even the most exquisitely trained and educated therapist or psychiatrist. It’s a much bigger country and a smaller military, and guys are getting discharged from their units and they don’t have anyone who can relate. Like when my grandfather separated, he rode a train back to his hometown with his National Guard company. They out-processed at the armory, and then went down the street to a picnic in their honor. He lived the next 7 decades in that town, and his friends and neighbors were the same ones he had before the war. They were boyhood friends, then brothers in arms, then men of the community, all together.
“They were boyhood friends, then brothers in arms, then men of the community, all together.”
So, the patriarchy. They better brace themselves, a bunch of swedish girls are galloping against them.
I think you’d see the same thing in similar smaller towns with NG or Reserve units today but the numbers of those who served during WWII and today isn’t that far off (12% vs 3%, and that’s total number in uniform at any point during the period and includes separations, desk duty, and such, not just combat service). The most pervasive and corrosive myth of WWII is everyone severed, which is flat out not true. The vast majority of the population didn’t.
My maternal grandfather was in WWII, Korea and Vietnam, but he never really talked about it (and he passed away before I was able to ask any more) – Started Artillery/Infantry and finished in Engineering – did a lot of time in Germany too.
Enlisted, Warrant, Commissioned, etc.
I finally got around to getting a copy of his full service record from the National Archives a few years back but I still haven’t had time to go through it all yet.
Service records are interesting. My dad and I pulled my grandfather’s. He disclosed a case of VD and a alcohol arrest on his application forms.
My grandfather fought for the British against the Turks in Palestine. My dad was sent to Korea, but (in his words) after the shooting was over. I had the draft number of 5 during the latter stages of Vietnam. I had considered enlisting to get a cushier berth than I would have gotten as a draftee. Problem was, I had a bunch of government certifications attesting to my abilities in radio, electronics, telephony, and telegraphy. So, it was explained to me, enlistment meant OCS, then Signal Corps, then off to Nam. Doing a bit of research, I found that the life expectancy for Signal Corps lieutenants was approximately 21 seconds.
So I altered my plans and became a certified bedwetting homosexual.
My dad was drafted for Nam, don’t recall if it was Army or Marines. Luckily, he got a medical discharge before he was shipped out.
My dad got drafted, went to OCS, went to flight school and flew choppers (Cobras) in Nam. His brother was in the Navy. Grandfather was a fireman in the Navy and had his boat shot out from under him in WW2. Grandma got the MIA telegraph then they found him and about 20% of the crew on an island and got him home. His father and uncle both served in the artillery in WW1. I don’t know if either won an Iron Cross. The photo albums with their military photos got chucked in December of 1941.
Not too many people in the military on my mom’s side until you get back to the Army of Northern Virginia.
My dad never had an issue with Vietnamese after he got back, other than to refer to them as gooks or zipperheads until I was in my late teens. Never out of hatred, just habit. He would really tense up during movie scenes on occasion. And I never saw him cry.
My grandfather distrusted and despised Japanese people til the day he died. He never personally confronted any that I saw, but he hated them.
So I altered my plans and became a certified bedwetting homosexual.
I’m not trolling.
What do you make of that all these years later? I don’t know what I would have done given the same circumstances. I have never had to make that choice. I think I would feel as if I was coward if I had done that. Maybe not, but I don’t know. This is a question of curiosity, not contempt. Please don’t take it as such.
Pretty sure that I would feel zero cowardice about opting out of ‘Nam. My dad got lucky hitting 18 during the last year of the conflict and was never drafted. That was a shitty, horrible protracted conflict to draft compulsory service for, IMO.
If I was in the circumstance to opt out of Nam, I may have. However, if I opted out and a few of my buddies were sent over there and subsequently killed, I think I would feel a great shame. Maybe not, I’m just speculating.
Setting aside the libertarian/moral stance on conscription, it’s entirely asinine to use a mass mobilized army for the kind of limited war Vietnam was.
Broadly speaking IMO, there are “big wars” and “small wars”.
Big wars are like the Civil War, and the two World Wars. Goal is unconditional surrender of the enemy polity, and the strategy is to conquer ground, destroy armies and war production assets, and raise the flag over the enemy capital. Mass mobilized armies are good at this kind of war. It’s tough, dirty, dangerous work, but it is a clearly defined goal. Your buddy might have bought it on the road to Richmond, but by god he bought it 2 weeks and 15 miles back, and the Rebels are retreating again. There is a tangible progress, and the blood, sweat, and tears can be accepted as the price of victory.
Small wars are like Vietnam, or any of the various brushfire wars the US has fought over the years. Goal is a limited objective, with all manner of political restraints. Strategy is often contradictory, enemies go from deadly foes to new allies as treaties are signed and broken. These wars are fought by long service professionals, who sign on for long stretches of essentially imperial duty. The long conquest of the American West, or the wars of the British Empire are an example of this.
I have always thought that war should be a last resort. I also think that if a country decides for war, then it should be total war.
If we as Americans aren’t willing to commit to total war, then I think we shouldn’t do it at all.
No offense whatever.
What Pomp said. I am not a pacifist by any means, and if the war had any legitimacy, I would have done my part, voluntarily. I was not interested in having my ass shot off at the whim of a congress too spineless to actually declare a war and a president who felt that mass slaughter of civilians 10,000 miles away was a fine idea. We were not in danger of being invaded by the Vietnamese.
The draft is blatantly immoral, and Carter’s reinstatement of the SSS confirmed my opinion of him as an evil and bigoted fuck who doesn’t deserve to live.
Thanks for the response. I may have drawn the same conclusion you did. Probably, actually.
Jesus fuck, that is terrifying.
Thinking of my Father in Law today. Him and his twin brother were on Omaha beach, another brother on Utah. Another relative went AWOL from the Navy in WW2.
My uncle was drafted to Vietnam.
2/47th infantry.. Tunnel Rat. There’s a photo of him with some other guys he put on facebook where they all have what look like sawed-off shotguns…vets in the comments are calling them dupers. Never heard of the expression. No luck from Google. Anyone know?
FIL went from Normandy to the Bulge with the 2nd Army. Medic.
Fucked him up, too
I think you should ask him about it.
Probably this grenade launcher? Interestingly the wiki article doesn’t include “dooper” as a slang name, but I remember hearing it in a Vietnam War documentary.
“Bloopers” was the slang name for the M-79 grenade launcher because of the distinctive sound when fired. The replacement M-203 had the same nickname for at least a decade.
That’s probably it. Maybe autocorrect on their thread changed Bloopers to Dupers. Thanks
No, I think duper/dooper was also a thing, as I mentioned above, because I heard it in that documentary (from vets talking about how they loved it, iirc).
My dad went ROTC since he figured it was better than getting drafted. He went into the Signal Corps and was stationed in Alaska for four years.
My first FIL did two tours in Vietnam. Apparently while on leave in the Phillipines he was involved in a ‘mishap’ with a Phillipine army officer. They sent him to Alaska after that.
His favorite story was about he and the Ruskies glaring at each other through binoculars from one island to another.
My dad did meteorological research, which I’m grateful for him being here today. My wife’s uncle came back from WWI with TB, was pretty much cutoff by his family (except for my MIL who corresponded with him), and died in a VA hospital.
Wait. Are you saying you can see Russia from Alaska? I’ve been told that’s preposterous.
Well there are a couple of islands out there in the straight, one Russian, one American that you can nearly throw rocks from one to the other. (that may be an exaggeration – for those unfamiliar with my style)
Diomede Islands
Both grandfathers served in WW2 – neither overseas. A (Canadian) great-uncle flew for the RAF in Europe My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, but was in CA the whole time and his brother was a Marine who did go over. It was probably 20+ years before he said a word about it – even then his stories were always funny ones about training the ARVN guys. He strongly recommended college for me, though. Emphasis on strongly.
That was surely warranted. SMDH.
I did visit a cemetery yesterday, first time in one in decades, in the unincorporated place called Sutton in Green Twp., NJ — https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9797593,-74.7765963,19z , between the Pequest River and the Lackawanna Cutoff, the building of which railroad over a century ago probably obliterated some of Sutton. Still having no car, I took a walk to explore my still-mostly-new-to-me rural “neighborhood”, because it was the only nice day of the weekend. I’d seen that cemetery from the jitney, but had forgotten about it. The graves are all 19th C., including at least one name I recognized as a road or location name, but the grass had been cut this year.
I posted a version of this a few days ago, but I’ll put it up again, just because.
Personal anecdote: I was traveling through France some years back, accompanied by my at-the-time girlfriend. She had made a promise to her mom that we’d stop at a military cemetery in the Vosges (Epinal) where the mom’s brother was buried after being shot down and killed during WW2. The staff there was wonderful- they helped her find his tombstone amidst the thousands and answered our questions patiently and with respect. We laid out flowers and I left a pebble on the top of the tombstone.
Now it is no secret that I am not a military kind of guy. I was a draft dodger during Vietnam and have opposed our involvement in the non-defensive wars of Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump. I strongly believe that our military is too large and being wasted in places we don’t belong. This was true while I stood in that cemetery, amidst the white crosses.
As I looked out over the sea of graves, I thought about these brave men, about the horrors they experienced, about the sheer waste and tragedy of that war. I thought about their families and the families of the people in the villages we had passed through.
I cried like a baby.
My bucket list has a trip to the Somme and the graveyards. I know I’ll be crying.
My parents took us to Verdun when we were stationed in Germany. I must have been only 9 or 10, but I still remember it like it was yesterday. It was very open back then, too, you could pretty much go anywhere you wanted.
My epiphany was when I visited Northern France and the town of Dieppe. The city was draped in Canadian flags. As I approached the cemetery my heart began to beat faster. On a monument it opened, ‘Nos cousins les Canadiens…’ It was quite sobering.
*beckons edit faerie for pal Rufus*
Yes, needed. Thanks.
I must admit…not following. YOU HAVE TO SPEAK SLOWLY AND CANADIAN, EH?!
Hint: You missed a “d” somewhere. Somehow Tundra kept it classy.
It wasn’t easy.
Tundra is all class. But I don’t see it. /awaits Joe Pesci moment when he didn’t see the resemblance in his mother’s painting to Billy Bats.
You don’t see it because I fixed it, you rapist. Or drapist.
I thought it was a STEVE SMITH reference. 😉
AH. And you thought making me reread my comment over and over and over and over would be amusing no doubt. Eh? Hmmm!!!?
STEVE SMITH NOT A POUTINE-EATING CANUCK!
STEVE SMITH CITIZEN OF THE WORLD, ME EMBRACE ALL PEOPLE.
AND BY “EMBRACE ALL PEOPLE”, STEVE SMITH MEAN…AHH, YOU KNOW REST.
If you ever get the chance (and I recommend this for our American brothers and sisters, too), go to the Canadian Juno Beach Centre in Normandy (Courseulles-sur-Mer). Since it was built using private money and volunteer/veterans labour, it’s not your usual government-fetishizing war memorial. I found it quite thoughtful, and whoever curated the place spent a lot of time and effort to make sure that visitors understood the historical context of the events leading up to WWII. It changed the way my wife, in particular, thought about that war, wars in general, and the sacrifices that soldiers make. Highly recommended.
My family hasn’t had a lot of military service, but I have a tremendous amount of respect for those who do. Grandfather served in the Navy in WWII, thankfully, was stationed in Cuba for most of the war. Only real action he saw was supporting the Torch landings in Morocco. Grandmother’s brother was also in the Navy, out in the Pacific somewhere. He was stationed on some destroyer (don’t know what the name was,) for about 8 months, I think, and was transferred off.
A week later, he got news that the ship had been torpedoed by a Japanese sub.
Brother’s in the Army right now, served one tour in Iraq in 2009 and one in Afghanistan in 2014. I considered joining as a commissioned officer a few years back, but he informed me he’d beat my ass to a pulp if I joined the military. It’s something he likes, but would never advise anyone else to do.
Incredibly thankful that the draft was abolished and that’s a decision I get to make.
I went through the beginning stages of joining the Navy back in 2009 or 2010, but the recruiters didn’t seem to have their shit together and my MEPS trip kept getting cancelled. After a few months of farting around with them, I found that I was no longer interested.
I am culturally appropriating today. Beef and cheese fajitas. Marinated flank steak seared on the grill then wrapped in foil with onion and baked until tender (-ish…it’s a flank steak) and then thin sliced. That and large amounts of cheddar go into a flour tortilla and then…? I dunno. The wife bought some kind of fajita cooker thingy and wants to try it. It is a contraption that clamps the fajitas and cooks from both sides at once. She also has some plans for spinach, I am not sure what she intends to do. My job is the meat.
I think I want some black beans to go with that. I have some very meaty pork neck bones that keep catching my eye every time I open the freezer. We have corn chips and lots of cheese so I suspect the black beans will end up as dip covered with lettuce, tomato, chopped onion and jalepeno.
Cool and sad story (with amazing photographs). (Hat tip Instapundit)
The war cemetery I’ll always remember is Piskaryovskoye in St. Petersburg. It’s where they buried the majority of people who died during the siege, in a series of mass graves. Row after row of huge mounds with the same year next to them to signify which year the grave was filled.
I don’t have a pic of it uploaded with my other Punchbowl pics (linked above) but there are several gravestones there for Unidentified Remains following Pearl Harbor. I think even with DNA (and the POW/MIA/recovery folks at JBPHH) they still don’t have identification on them.
They also have the Halls of the Missing for those lost at sea or otherwise unrecovered. Walls and walls of names.
My grandfathers were born in 1926 and 1927. Both joined the service (Army and Navy) at 17. My mom’s dad was stationed at San Diego and worked as a medic. My dad’s dad was stationed in the midwest (Kansas?) and was preparing to go to Japan had they continued fighting after the bombs. Luckily for him that wasn’t necessary.
My dad was born in ’54 and thankfully never fell into the Vietnam draft.
My cousin joined the Air Force a decade ago. He’s served two tours in Afghanistan and also spent time in an undisclosed portion of the Middle East (which I suspect was Jordan). He’s lost several friends to IEDs and other dangers of “war”. He has always been lucky enough to make it home to his wife and daughter and son. But he carries and remembers all of the ones that were lost.
I know this isn’t about politics, but the only way to properly “celebrate” Memorial Day is to make sure we try to elect politicians that are going to support policies that prevent us from having to add more names to the list to remember on the next Memorial Day.
Indeed… The best way to “support the troops” is to make sure they’re not going to die for a stupid-ass reason.
::good edit faerie flutters by::
PS: Can someone please induct me into the Eleusinian Mysteries of style formatting?
use the less than greater than signs, not brackets.
Or use the Monocle add-on and let it do the hard work for you.
Replace your square brackets with angle brackets.
I can’t think of anything more American than this picture of SPC. Samten’s gravestone. It is marked with the Wheel of Dharma symbolizing his (Tibetan?) Buddhist faith, there are two stones on the top as per Jewish custom when visiting graves, and a rose is held in place with a ribbon festooned with crosses.
May he reborn in Amitabha’s Pure Land!
TA YA THA PAN TSA DRI YA A WA BO DHA NA YA SO HA!
Thanks for that, HM. An exquisite follow up!
You’re welcome.
That’s awesome.
Thanks for posting this Swiss. I have written something similar nearly every Memorial Day, but not nearly as eloquently as you. I have spent time in both Iraq and Afghanistan (albeit as a civilian rather than military), and some of the people I met over there didn’t make it back. This has always been a bittersweet holiday for me, and I alternate between the solemn and the frivolous. But I have come to slowly realize that were it me that fate had selected to die over there, I’d want my family to focus on the fun, and enjoy the life that was given.
So today I will silently raise a glass of my best scotch in solemn remembrance of those who didn’t make it, offer a prayer for their families, then proceed to enjoy the food and drinks of the day.
A friend of mine was a civilian contractor over in Iraq. He, as far as I know, stayed within the wire but a few years of that – getting shelled, etc – seemed to have an effect on him too.
No military experience in my immediate family. However, thought I would share this, even though he was not an American. I read his bio when I was a kid and have never forgotten it. Only combat soldier to be awarded the Victoria Cross twice (British and Commonwealth equivalent of the Medal of Honor). One of only three total to receive the award twice:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Upham
In November 2006, Upham’s VC and Bar were sold by his daughters to the Imperial War Museum for an undisclosed sum.[16] However, as New Zealand legislation prohibits the export of such historic items, the Imperial War Museum agreed to a permanent loan of the medals to the Waiouru Army Museum.
Fuck NZ. It’s not their property.
Thank you for this, Swiss. /offers a couple fingers of Dalwhinnie 15
I’ve always thought of Memorial Day to be a similar kind of day to Yom Kippur; a day of great meaning and special observance, but not necessarily a “holiday” in the traditional sense of “let’s party!” like the 4th of July. Thanks Swiss for the reminder. While I haven’t lost any immediate relatives, I do have two military stories from my immediate family.
First, my grandfather fought in the Pacific Theater and was slated to be in the first wave invading mainland Japan. The chances are very high he would have been killed so I am one of those proverbial individuals that likely wouldn’t exist if not for the Bomb. He died when I was 1 so I didn’t get to know him very well, but my Dad says he didn’t talk about the war at all. In an ironic twist, after the war he went on to be a security guard at Los Alamos Labs.
Second, my Dad, after partying way too much, failed out of college and was completely rudderless. In spite of the effect the war had on my grandfather and the horrors of Vietnam, he actually tried to volunteer to go because he had nothing else going. He was disqualified because he had Polio as a child and has one leg shorter than the other. He then got his act together, finished engineering school and met my Mom.
I owe my existence to two instruments of death and decisions made by the US Military (among other things).
Semi-related, I will be smoking jerk pork loin today.
I will be jerking smoke pork. All. Day. Long. Kinky.
I plan to jerk, smoke, and pork, in no particular order, at various times today.
Pork before jerk. It’s a medical fact.
Jerk first, to prolong the pork.
YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK!
Nothing to add, and no comment other than to thank you for words well-said.
Most of my family military history is REMF, except my grandfather who had the distinguishing luck of being on the losing side in two separate conflicts. First he was a motorcycle messenger in the Dutch Army in Second World War (i.e. which lasted a week). Ended up in a POW camp, escaped in 1943 and went into hiding for the next year while taking potshots at Germans. The Allies finally roll in, liberate the Netherlands, and he gets drafted soon after due to the rebellions in Dutch Indonesia.
Indonesia was a pretty early example of the kind of wars we fight now, the Dutch were in full control of the major urban centers but couldn’t control the countryside. He actually had a lot of photos of his time there, and was pretty open with telling stories about what happened there (including proto-suicide bombers, which I always thought was surprising). Eventually international pressure forced them to give up the colonies, making it almost a ‘Dutch Vietnam’ (won all the battles, lost the war). So he goes home, and finds that the country’s in recession and the government’s taking a bunch of his farmland. He understandably decided immigration was better than sticking around.
It’s weird to think that you’re only two generations away from a colonial war.
Since we are sharing family stuff. My maternal grandfather, Rufus Hudson, was born into a sharecropping family in 1916 Birmingham, AL. He joined the Army Air Corps in WWII as an airplane mechanic, spending most of his time in Italy. After the transition to jets, he reclassified as a Loadmaster in the fancy new US Air Force and barely survived the Korean War. He was proudest however, of his time with the 52nd Troop Carrier Squadron (the Deep Freeze Squadron) stationed in Auckland, NZ. His unit transported the men and material to build and maintain McMurdo Station during Operation Deep Freeze 1956 – 1958. He never spoke about the wars but he loved to talk about the South Pole; he said they had to wait until it warmed up to 50° below zero before they could go outside and work. I miss him every day.
some history
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Memorial Day, originally called Decoration Day, is a day of remembrance for those who have died in service of the United States of America. Over two dozen cities and towns claim to be the birthplace of Memorial Day. While Waterloo N.Y. was officially declared the birthplace of Memorial Day by President Lyndon Johnson in May 1966, it’s difficult to prove conclusively the origins of the day.
Regardless of the exact date or location of its origins, one thing is clear – Memorial Day was borne out of the Civil War and a desire to honor our dead. It was officially proclaimed on 5 May 1868 by General John Logan, national commander of the Grand Army of the Republic, in his General Order No. 11. “The 30th of May, 1868, is designated for the purpose of strewing with flowers, or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion, and whose bodies now lie in almost every city, village and hamlet churchyard in the land,” he proclaimed. The date of Decoration Day, as he called it, was chosen because it wasn’t the anniversary of any particular battle.
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and some current news
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Published May 28, 2017
Fox News
Now Playing
After the Show Show: The United States Marine Band
Some residents of Hastings-on-Hudson are objecting to being designated a “Purple Heart Village.”
Although the village in Westchester County, New York, has fewer than 8,000 residents, it has a large VFW hall, multiple monuments to service members, and even a downtown street renamed Veterans Way, according to CBS 2. Antiwar activists, however, claim the language in the proposed signs actually glorifies what they call unjust wars — such as a reference to soldiers “defending the United States of America” and “for the good and protection of all Americans.”
“The issue is essentially, how can we support the warrior and not support the war?” said Frank Brodhead of Concerned Families of Westchester.
“If you think of the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia or Syria, none of these wars have anything to do with protecting us,” Brodhead said.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/28/purple-heart-village-label-for-ny-town-draws-ire-antiwar-activists.html
Decoration Day
Great article Swiss, mahalo.
My paternal Great Grandfather’s older brother was first to the US from Italy. He was here a few years when WWI started and he returned to Italy to fight and was killed on his second day at the front. (In the 1980s I visited the small village and saw his name on the war memorial.) After the war my great grandfather with his sons (including granddad) left for the US. During WWII grandfather’s older brother was an infantryman in the 79th ID and grandfather was an essential war worker on a RR. My paternal grandmother’s younger brother was a B-17 gunner who disappeared over Europe in a black cloud when flak hit their bomb load. On my mom’s side her dad was drafted in WWII and was a Finance Corps officer and his brothers raised were exempted as dairy farmers. Maternal grandmother’s brothers were merchant mariners (one killed in a sinking my torpedo). My dad was a ROTC grad and was recalled to active duty for the Cuba Crisis. Mom had two brothers drafted during VTN- one a sergeant sent to Europe and the other on a carrier off of VTN.
When I joined the Army there was grudging acceptance. Later when I started my combat service (DS) there was discrete checking to see if I was “still okay” after I got back. My then wife hated the Army and me serving all those years, and it gave my kids a worldwide appreciation. After 9/11 I spent several tours in Iraq and have my own people to remember, especially those who died because of my decisions. I can live with that and will toast their memories, and those of my friends that are KIA, later today. What haunts me most is my paternal grandmother. In the late 1990s I visited my grandparents after her mind started going. When I walked in she started to cry and kept calling me by her dead brother’s name and the entire time I was there treated me as I was him. As I got ready to leave my grandpa thanked me for “humoring her” because I looked like my long dead great uncle and he said she was happier than he had seen her in months. That was the last time I saw them, grandma died about six months later and grandpa just gave up and died the next week. Some of war’s losses carry on among the families.
Dang… thanks for sharing all that. Not much else I can add…
Nice post swissy, I always appreciate your perspective and the occasional narrowed gays.
You make a good point that the massive conscripted wars of the past are fading so most people’s connections to them become more tenuous as time passes. But even if you dont have a dead relative/friend/whatever it still bothers me that today is an excuse to drink and cook out (standard libertarian disclaimer applies). Or maybe I’m just salty because I’m working today at the grocery store selling delicious steaks and burgers to people who have the day off.
I have told all of my family stories before.
Greatxxx grandfather on my mother’s side Revolutionary war. His brother in the French/Indian. They never told me any stories about it.
Great Great Grandfather on my Father’s side cavalry officer in the civil war. He never told me any stories either.
Grandfathers brothers WWII and Korea. One was in the Bataan Death march (Man, was he ever a fucked up dude), The one from the pacific never would talk either. He would just say “I was 367 days never outside the sound of gunfire”, the Korean war one never would talk. All he would say is “Man, we did some fighting over there.”
Uncle in Vietnam. Came home missing two legs and an arm. The woman he married over there and his baby murdered by the VC. He was damaged goods too, to say the least.
Aside from the Revolutionary war, if I could go back and change things I would be writing here that my family has no military history.
Well, I posted about my family military history French/Indian war up to Vietnam but my post got eaten.
I forgot to add my mother’s father was a merchant marine during WWII and survived having his ship sunk.
I have visited war cemeteries all over the world and the care by the US/UK/AUS governments is phenomenal. If you visit Hawaii I encourage you to visit the Punch Bowl. The setting is wonderful and the graves give lie to anybody that says the US is a “Christian nation”. (We have Christians, but but people of all and no faith have defended us.)
The most haunting cemetery I have visited was at Cold Harbor. There are historical accounts of the Union Soldiers pinning scraps of paper to their uniforms to help identify them before the ill-fated final charge. (In a few minutes time there were 7,000 Union casualties.) When you visit the cemetery most of the graves are “Unknown” but far too many have scraps of a name, e.g. “Joh n t”;” mith”; or even a lone letter ” d “.
The WWII Germans established a cemetery near where I lived that had a nice touch to it. The dead are Allied aircrews and they bunched together the dead from a single aircraft. Even all these decades later the men who fought as a team are still a team. The few Luftwaffe dead in the cemetery are buried along side the primarily English crews.
While wandering around Ocracoke, NC on a trip to the Outer Banks, I stumbled on the grave of the crew of the HMT Bedfordshire. At the time, I think the UK government maintained the cemetery, but the article says the US Coast Guard now maintains it.
It is considered British soil.
A little something to lighten the mood a touch: an ad I just saw on Hong Kong television.
After high school I went to college and got a draft deferment. My buddy across the street (from the fourth grade) got a job. So he got drafted. Two weeks after arriving in Viet Nam he was killed by a short morter round.
RIP Ken.
I agree with Ted S.
Which of my comments? 😉
(This is why threading is important….)
Threading? Forget it Ted, its Brookstown.
some family history
My maternal grandfather served stateside in the Army during WW2 because he had flat feet. He was an artist, so he spent the war doing illustrations for training manuals and posters. I found a collection of WW2 era phrasebooks in all kinds of exotic languages- Burmese, Hindi, Tagalog. I wish I could remember where I put them. I presume my grandpa illustrated them. He had a few funny stories. He had been in the Army for about 3 years before it was discovered that he had never gone to basic training. So some sergeant drove him around in a jeep for a few hours and pointed out the obstacles-“see that wall over there? yeah, you’d be climbing over that if we had time.” He also did guard duty for some Marines that just got back from Guadalcanal. He said some of them had necklaces made out of ears and teeth. They all got really drunk and beat the hell out of each other. They had been secluded and kept under guard because they were so rowdy. When he got discharged at the end of the war, he only got bus fare back to Baltimore, which was where he had entered the Army even though he had put Louisville, Kentucky as his home of record.. He had to hitch-hike back. He always said the Army was for slobs. He was always much prouder of having been in the Civil Air Patrol.
My other grandfather was in some Navy officer training program, but the war ended before he finished. He never got officially discharged from the Navy because he was too impatient to wait around for out-processing, so he just sort of wandered off. Since there were so many people leaving the military at the time, nobody noticed. His future wife wrote about VJ day in our family history. She said she and her mom decided to go to San Francisco for the celebration, but the train got stuck. She said their were drunk sailors and soldiers everywhere. It was basically the zombie apocalypse of sexual assault.
My great uncle was in the Air Force during the Korean War. He got transferred from Japan to England because he had some job related to chemical weapons. The commies had accused the US of using chemical and biological weapons, so to minimize the propaganda, everyone in the military with training in that area was transferred out of Asia.
My dad got a high draft number and missed going to Vietnam, for which he is thankful.
My brother’s a Blackhawk pilot in the Army. He flies mainly medevac missions. He’s in Afghanistan for a second time now. He’s seen some bad things and had some close calls. Overall, he seems happy with it. He told me one story about a time a bomb-sniffing dog got sick and they ended up having to airlift a sample of dog shit to a veterinary clinic. They couldn’t take the dog because I guess they still needed it to sniff for bombs.
I’ve been in the Army for about a year and half and I’ve been liking it. I don’t expect to be in any combat anytime soon. I tend to focus on the present because that’s where I spend most of my time. My proudest(?) moment in basic training was when I got to do cadences. There’s one that goes “they say that in the Army the [fill in the blank] is mighty fine..” and then there’s a sarcastic ending. Mine was “they say that in the Army, the training’s mighty fine- SHARP and EO classes are not a waste of time.” I got in a little trouble for that, but it was worth it to hear about 200 people laughing.
SHARP is the Army sexual assault prevention awareness program and EO is the Equal Opportunity program. Both them boil down to really boring briefings about the terrible scourge of hurt feelings. I’m all for being polite and professional, although I don’t see what good it does to criminalize behavior that is merely rude or offensive. If Private Boogereater tells a yo momma joke to Specialist Turdhumper and the latter gets mad and punches Private Boogereater, maybe just make them paint rocks for a weekend and forget about it instead of forcing everyone to sit through a lecture. I know, crazy talk.
Vox gonna vox.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/16952/scum-vox-trashes-united-states-marine-corp-elliott-hamilton
“On this day, let us remember all the diversity and sensitivity training administrators who suffer toxic masculinity daily”
I just noticed Vox doesnt have comments. I wonder why.
The left is all about “having conversations” where one side commands and the other submits mutely. This is not to be confused with “starting a conversation,” which usually means a false-flag hate crime.
Vox is just here to Voxplain to you how things should be and the importance of optics and process — no one cares about actual outcomes. They don’t need to get comments from the plebes because they’re the ones who know and tell you what’s what.
OT: It occurred to me that the SJW epithet “shitlord” could easily be made into an acronym, but I can’t think of a good word for “L”. Suggestions?
Sexist
Homophobic
Intolerant
Transphobic
L ???
Oblivious
Racist
Dick
Can’t tell if serious, but…
Libertarian, obviously.
What do you mean by serious? I don’t endorse this as a clever or funny acronym, but I could see the usual suspects embracing such a thing. Unless you mean, “How could you possibly miss on Libertarian?” My perception is that libertarians aren’t usually in their crosshairs unless there’s a presidential election and we’re “stealing” votes away from the Democrats. It’s possible I’m underestimating their contempt for libertarians.
Yeah, I figured “libertarian” was just so obvious. And it comes and goes – couple years ago there was a rash of “I once was a Libertarian but then I saw the light” articles in places like Salon and Slate. It’s a derogatory term in the prog circles for “idiots who don’t understand ROADZZZZZZZ”.
I’ve been told by more than one prog that I think poor/sick/old people should just die, and that kids should be used by corporations for cheap labor.
So yes, libertarian was an obvious miss in that acronym
You are underestimating their contempt for any proponents of liberty, especially libertarians.
I think he’s more correct in the idea that they just collapse libertarians into some form of ‘white supremacist/secret conservative/neo-Nazi’ category.
I’ve seen it fall tidily several times into the “alt-right” compartment post-election 2016.
I think right now they see us as potentially useful idiots. Which is being bolstered somewhat by places like The Other Site.
From CBC, an economic analysis that is well within the expected parameters:
OPEC can’t stop the slow, painful death of the oil economy: Don Pittis
A masturbatory Toronto fantasy about oil becoming obsolete so Albertans can go back into poverty they deserve, those racist fuckers (and also Americans).
My first Gilmoring!
(hands PZ his medal, salutes)
I’ll always remember where I was when it happened.
Even the subtitle is precious:
Electric cars soon will be cheaper than gas ones to buy and run
Dude, Mr. Pitts, do you even power plant? I take some in my energy smoothie every morning.
“A report from Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF) shows that within as little as eight years, electric cars in Europe and North America will be cheaper to buy and run than traditional vehicles powered by internal combustion engines.”
And Hillary has a 98% chance of winning the election. Really, that is hilarious. The only way that is going to happen is by artificially raising the price of hydrocarbons. Chocolate Jesus is gone you stupid fuckers. It aint gonna happen.
*I notice that they think electricity will replace hydrocarbons without mention of what fuel will be used to generate the electricity, cuz electricity comes out of a socket. Honest, thats where it comes from.
It drives me nuts that progs don’t seem to know where the electricity comes from that will power these cars. Coal, nuclear and franking are out, so how are these magic cars going to work.
Any power generation method is acceptable as long as it’s so expensive to be unprofitable.
So, natural gas used to be great, till gas prices collapsed. Now it’s Satan.
Hydro is amazing and renewable – unless you live in an area where dams can actually be built. Then they must be blocked. This is literally what will happen in my home province now that Commies and Nerds made a deal to ruin it.
Solar is going strong because it’s utter trash – but if it ever becomes viable, they’ll remember how horrible chemicals are involved and demand end of panel production.
of course those estimates are still based on oil price-growth assumptions established in May of 2008
Torontonians don’t seem to understand that both oil and natural gas are also feedstock for All Things Plastic; people with access to those resources will still be making buttloads of money over the long term.
Also, batteries. Unless someone’s found a way to make batteries with an order of magnitude greater energy density than right now, for less all-in cost than right now, with a longer life than right now, electric vehicles ain’t doin’ shit.
Shitlord is not a SJW epithet, it’s a great word for regular use. That’s almost as dumb as the SJWs attempting to make ‘snowflakes’ into an indicator of fascism because of some obscure reference to Nazism from decades ago that everyone has forgotten.
They seem to be the only ones who use shitlord without irony.
Nope, started as normal youth/twentysomething slang, SJWs tried to take it over, shitposters took it back, and now it’s just regular youth slang again. I’ve seen my freaking niece use it and she’s 13 and far from an SJW.
I suspect obscure reference to Nazism from decades ago that everyone has forgotten means they just made it up.
According to posts on Urban Dictionary and other sites clearly written by SJWs, ‘snowflakes’ either refers to the ashes from concentration camps, or a negative term for people who wanted to abolish slavery.
Of course, in order to actually believe that you’d have to ignore what the people who use ‘snowflakes’ are actually saying, i.e. they use the term because their opponents are soft-skinned and fragile and will immediately do things like equate people disagreeing with them with Nazism.
I looked at the guy that wrote that definition for snowflake. he has written some others and they are very clearly fabrications. According to him the term ‘Cuck’ was invented by people who want to suck Jeb Bushes cock to describe themselves. It is some lefty troll masturbating to ‘what if this were true! I would be so right in my convictions if only it were!’ scenarios. I have seen it before in other people who desperately want to believe something for feels that deep down they know isnt true.
It might well be 4channers trolling with blatantly false definitions so SJWs would look stupid when they use them.
Also, fuck my life – “4channer” passes Firefox spelling check!
A snowflake is someone who Mommy and Daddy always protected and told them they were super-special individuals (just like a snowflake, no two alike, get it?) Snowflakes got participation trophies and have never had to deal with the real world, so that when they are finally presented with a true challenge, they have temper tantrums and make unrealistic demands.
If I posted this, I wonder how long it would last on Urban Dictionary instead of the ridiculous SJW self-glorification (c’mon, human ashes, really? wow, they’ll believe anything to make themselves feel better)
It’s particularly funny because it’s really bloody obvious where the term comes from: fucking Fight Club, a defining movie of the 90s that directly addresses the idea of people being overly sensitive and unable to cope with reality not conforming to their worldview.
Nope, it must be an obscure reference from a hundred and fifty years ago used in Missouri to describe people who wanted to end slavery.
“Lickspittle”
“Lackey” (as in “running-dog”)
“Ludicrous”
. . . etc.
My first thought was “Lacist”, but I doubt the SJWs would like that.
However, one thing that is consistent with all the other words, and would be relevant to the shitlord concept, might be “Loud”.
O could be Othering
Vladimir Putin a bigger threat than Islamic State, John McCain says
So not just bigger than the Islamic State, the biggest. I have to wonder if the headline was specifically chosen to de-emphasize that rather explicit phrasing on McCain’s part.
Blah blah blah. More Trumputins regarding Kushner. Ugh. McCain.
Oh, and regarding North Korea, “the key is China. China can restrain North Korean behavior.” Oh. OK. Well, at least we wouldn’t be paying for it, I suppose. Too bad Truman didn’t have a different policy on NK to begin with.
McCain … admitted … that President Donald Trump sometimes made him “nervous”.
McCain nervous, eh? This from the guy who withstood years of Vietcong torture living in a bamboo pit cell.
He really seems to hope that he can lose all the goodwill and respect that his POW years garnered for him, and just be thought of as CNN’s go-to pansy whiner.
He reminds me of a little jingle our local radio station used to play:
Don’t be nervous
Don’t be rocky
You’re our teenage
Guest disc jockey now.
I think you should be far more concerned about blatantly senile 80 year old men in positions of political power in your country than Putin.
John McCain is the bigger threat. Why isnt that motherfucker in jail for sedition?
A fine rant.
You were in Talill in March 2008? I was with the REDHORSE unit around that time. Although the AF called it Ali AB for some reason. Small world.
The Iraqis couldn’t figure out why we called it Talill either…they would point at the Ziggurat right over the wire and say “this is Ur”. The airfield was , technically, Ali AB. I wasn’t there long – got sent down to help the Brits with the Iraqi 14th DIV in Basra during Charge of the Knights. Once that was won, and we cleaned everything up – some wiseass dimed me out (told some TF CDR I was a lawyer in civilian life) so I got sent up to Baghdad to help MNSTC-I untangle the whole Iraqi Army procurement and log situation (it didn’t work).
Losses in personnel:
30 killed (15 soldiers,[7]
15 policemen[8][9]);
400 wounded;[7]
1,000–4,000 deserted defected or captured
Really? How do you win a fight when your fighters are dribbling away in those numbers?
Ah, Basra. I heard that was a magical happy-land. That deployment they moved me around for different construction projects, but thats where I spent the majority of my time. I was at Al Udeid for a time palletizing cargo to be sent downrange and once that was done they needed rent-a-troops to build a few helipads and hangars for the Army. That airfield wasn’t rated for armed aircraft at the time due to the um, AF blowing up al, the places where they could actually store munitions.
I did check out the Ziggurat. It was cool but not worth anything more than a photo -op.
Ted S-
This one:
I’ll probably offend people, but to me all of this seems to be an increasing fetishization of serving the state as being somehow being both sufficient and necessary to be a hero. It’s something that should be a deeply worrying trend.
You don’t think I read them all, do you?
There are people who don’t read my erudite comments?
I read all of your comment’s, Ted’S.
We are protected by the enormity of your stupidity, for a time.
I knew I added value to this place!
I evaded a summons to join the Army and see Viet Nam mostly through dumb luck. Otherwise, I’d probably be posting from somewhere in western Canada, eh.
Fixing the threading, hopefully…
From CBC, an economic analysis that is well within the expected parameters:
OPEC can’t stop the slow, painful death of the oil economy: Don Pittis
A masturbatory Toronto fantasy about oil becoming obsolete so Albertans can go back into poverty they deserve, those racist fuckers (and also Americans).
They don’t say where the electricity to run millions of electric cars is coming from, do they?
I once had someone in Ottawa seriously say how they don’t understand why Alberta hates the east. She worked for an environmentalist NGO that published lies about the oil sands.
Also my favourite part of these ‘post-oil’ pieces is that the people writing them never seem to understand that there’s a ton of industrial and chemical processes that oil is required for, regardless of whatever fantasy you’re having about mythical cheap and efficient electrical cars. It’s like a bloody scene from Idiocracy.
“Once my car runs on power-juice we don’t need oil no more.”
“Ok, ignoring where the power-juice is actually coming from, only around 45% of the worldwide petroleum industry is actually directed towards the production of gasoline for vehicles, you aren’t going to replace jet fuel or industrial lubricants with batteries.”
“But…there’s power-juice in my car now, we don’t need oil no more.”
“Sigh…”
Jet fuel or…paint, plastic, drugs, inks, dyes, adhesives, explosives, rubber, oh hell I could go all day with that list.
It is a fantasy and a pretty absurd one at that.
I’m reminded of a guy I knew who said that increasing the gas tax would only affect people that own cars.
Cato podcast interview with Constitutional Law scholar and self-described libertarian Ayelet Waldman, who discusses her LSD microdosing experiment for treating depression.
She just wants to get high. Why doesn’t she try getting high on life? Good people don’t smoke the acid.
Now that I think about it, maybe Jeff Sessions was endorsing edibles when he said “Good people don’t smoke marijuana”.
Huh.
I should probably schedule that colonoscopy.
A report from Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF) shows that within as little as eight years, electric cars in Europe and North America will be cheaper to buy and run than traditional vehicles powered by internal combustion engines.
Of course they will. And the ones that run on angel farts will be even cheaper.
They will run on PM Zoolander’s awesomeness. As long as we keep re-electing him, that is.
I for one support their right to freedom of association.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/29/paris-mayor-demands-black-feminist-festival-prohibits-white-people-banned-nyansapo
British blogger Tim Worstall commented on that story, and it was funny in that as I was reading his blog post, I also had Radio France International’s English broadcast playing. I was amazed how much RFI cribbed the Guardian story.
Related to the idiocy about end of oil I posted, City of Vancouver clarifies their Position on natural gas
So, yes, they are banning natural gas.
Gas isnt renewable?
*Takes another bite of beef/bean/cheese fajita*
The three core strategies in the Renewable City Strategy (approved by unanimous City Council vote in fall 2015) include:
Reduce energy use through energy conservation and efficiency programs.
Increase the use of renewable energy (for example biomethane – renewable natural gas). We power City Hall with green gas we purchase from FortisBC.
Increase the supply of renewable energy and support that with new infrastructure.
They are onto your idea!
“The other kind of gas”
My grandfather served in the Pacific during WWII, he never spoke of it, except one time. Tom Brokaw, I think, was on TV, he asked if America should’ve dropped the bomb. Talk about a quiet reserved man loosing his shit.
My Dad volunteered for Vietnam shortly after it started. He lost many friends over there. He fought with PTSD most of my childhood. As he has gotten older he sometimes talks about it, his war stories have always haunted me. They have also given me an appreciation for how close I came to never being born. There was one specific friend he talks about more than most. I sometimes thing about the daughter he never got to have.
My son recently joined the Army. He just finished Basic Training and is at AIT at Fort Huachaca in Arizona. I am one proud but terrified Mother.
My dad has two bronze stars. When I was young, I asked him how he got them, and he just said “I don’t want to talk about it.” End of.
You know- morons
I am sorry, I made a mistake, and I understand 72 years have passed since the end of World War II and I do regret people with whom I probably am very closely aligned with politically and philosophically have been so offended. To those people, I apologize. (In fact, the assumptions about my political leanings have been quite inaccurate.) I apologize to Takuma Sato. I made a stupid reference, during an emotional weekend, to one of the nations that we fought in World War II — and, in this case, the specific one my father fought against. Again, I will say I’m sorry, I know better, and I’m angry at myself because there was no constructive purpose in saying it and I should not have said it, especially because The Denver Post has been dragged into this.
I’m glad Sato won. I’m less glad Dixon got out of that crash unscathed.
I don’t wish injury on anyone who engages in dangerous behavior for my amusement. Not a fan of Dixon, but am really happy he didn’t get injured.
I was really happy to see Sato win, especially after the one that got away. His cries of joy on the radio… hnnng right in the feels.
Just curious: why the dislike of Dixon?
And-
I do regret people with whom I probably am very closely aligned with politically and philosophically have been so offended. To those people, I apologize. (In fact, the assumptions about my political leanings have been quite inaccurate.)
“I’m one of you! I’m a good Trump-hatin’ progressive! I just was momentarily overwrought. Please don’t throw me out of the cool kids’ club. Single payer! Fight for Fifteen! Russian hackers! Awww, come on, guy-… I mean personages.”
“I was just following FDR! EFFF DEEE ARRRR!!!!!!!”
Jesus Christ, do we need some sort of Twitter orientation video? ARE YOU A CELEBRITY OF ANY NOTORIETY? IS YOUR EMPLOYER READILY DISCOVERABLE THROUGH A SIMPLE INTERNET SEARCH? ARE YOU COMPELLED TO POST SOMETHING INVOLVING THE RACE OF SOMEBODY ELSE?
Or more people need to dig in and reply with “Fuck off”.
Memorial Day used to be Decoration Day, a time to put fresh flowers on the graves of the Civil War dead.
Frankly, keeping the old name would be less confusing to those who are trying to remember the distinction between Memorial Day and other holidays.
The link doesn’t say why they changed, there would be no need to change the name just because we began having new war dead in later wars.
“Decoration” Day appropriated gay culture.
There’s an SNL skit I was tempted to post here, but I think I will honor the day by *not* posting it.
Here’s the Wikipedia explanation:
“The preferred name for the holiday gradually changed from “Decoration Day” to “Memorial Day,” which was first used in 1882. Memorial Day did not become the more common name until after World War II, and was not declared the official name by Federal law until 1967.”
My maternal grand-father was killed on the Eastern front. We don’t talk about him much.
Comments on that WaPo article are remarkably retarded, even given the source.
No, he must not be allowed to have impure thoughts! So what if he apologized and was fired for making a stupid remark? We must all social signal and call for his head! This is proof that Trump has turned the US into apartheid South Africa!
Oh, wonderful
After the most recent provincial election, Commies and Greens have a majority of one in the assembly. Looks like they figured out how to run the Watermelon Coalition. Wish me luck, incoming four years of getting STEVE SMITHED!
The Green Fields of France
I didn’t go into the military, though I was considering it. I looked on Bill Clinton’s wars, considered how some relatives were fucked over by the military, and that I was tired of people telling me what to do (K-12 at Catholic School), and didn’t.
There’s lots of military service on my mom’s side, not so much on my dad’s side.
One of my paternal great-grandfathers was a medic during the First World War. He liked doodling and sketching. My uncle submitted a piece of his to the National Constitution Center in Philly for their 2011 Art of the American Soldier exhibit. They included it. Unfortunately, their links are all messed up or I’d link to it.
One of my grandfathers told me that very soon after he parachuted into France, a good friend of his, who was right next to my grandfather when this happened, got his head shot off.
One of my uncles on my mother’s side was on the Swift boats during Vietnam. He didn’t talk much about this time there, though he hinted to me about something he did that folks think he was brave and heroic for. He then told me, and if these aren’t his exact words they are close to it, “I wasn’t brave. Firefighters, like your grandfather, your uncles, and your dad, they’re brave. I just did what I had to in order to survive.” After he died, we (his nieces and nephews) found out that whatever it was he did involved a fire and he received a medal for it. Bronze Star I think. Everyone in the family knew my uncle didn’t like talking about his time in Vietnam so those that knew about his time didn’t say anything. At this point, those folks’ memories had faded. No one found his discharge papers or any other military records when going through his house. They did find his photographs. He was an amateur photographer. There were a good number of pictures of life in Vietnam taken when he wasn’t on the boats. RIP.
The remaining uncles on my mom’s side were a combat engineer who ended his time in the Army with a stint in Vietnam and the other uncle patrolled the Mediterranean and the Caribbean instead of Vietnam during his time in the Navy. The combat engineer uncle went into the Army before Vietnam heated up. Things got hot near the end of his tour and he got shipped out to Vietnam. He told me about making some deal with a guy to swap his M16 for the guy’s M14, which he credits with saving his life. He told me when he got shot at, the M14 always worked, which wasn’t always the case for his comrades’ M16s. The uncle who patrolled the Mediterranean and Caribbean told me the key to a good shore leave was to get on Shore Patrol, make friends with the local cops, find out what the local hot spots are, and then if/when you get liberty, put that knowledge to work.
My dad got a draft exemption for Vietnam. He told me he was drafted. He reported for processing. They put him on a bus to ship everyone out for Basic. Then a sergeant came on the bus and pulled my dad off. My dad’s employer had some military contracts, and my dad was the only guy with the skills necessary to get the job done. My dad’s boss, when he found out my dad got drafted, started making phone calls. Eventually someone decided those contracts were more important than having one more warm body for Vietnam, and my dad got his exemption.
Military service is 8 in my family. Son of the revolutuonary, civil, WWII, Korean, Vietnam.
Served myself but sat in the American desert…White Sands.
Beer raised for the fallen.
A “lynching”?
That’s all well and good, but if this is going to end at UMD, it will be because students, faculty, and campus workers say enough is enough, not only to the hard right festering on campus but to an administration, led by President Wallace Loh, that has been all too content to look the other way.
According to several UMD undergrads, although it’s the end of the semester, direct actions are already being planned to ensure campus safety and uproot the monsters in their midst. Undergrad Brendan Sullivan captured a shared sentiment among students in a message to the school’s president on Facebook, writing, “Hey Wallace Loh, Through your failure to address racism, white supremacists, hate speech and violence against people of color you have created an atmosphere where racists are emboldened. Your milquetoast attitude to the racist flyers, calling hate speech ‘free speech’ and refusing to stand by immigrants, who you yourself are, has allowed this disease called racism to root itself in our university. We need courage, we need our administration to fearlessly fight for the lives of our students, not cover their asses and hide in their shell. Richard Collins’s blood is on your hands.”
What the fucking fuck?
Awesome, the author is the sports editor for The Nation.
You have never read the rhetoric of the Nazis or the Soviets? That shit is indistinguishable from it. Hell, it might even be directly plagiarized with just the names and groups swapped out.
I am looking into the story of the murder. I cant find one that doesnt read like UMD isnt some hotbed of racism, a situation that I find less than believable. I also find a shocking lack of information in all of the news stories about it. I am calling bullshit, tentatively.
They will work themselves into a lather, eat a few of their own to sate their BPD rage and then go back to a simmering boil.
I though Fox would give the racist, right-wing perspective (/sarc), but not so.
“Student Alexis Ojeda-Brown refused to stay silent. Earlier this month, she used a bullhorn to denounce the noose incident on an open area of campus — only to have students respond by saying, “Who cares?””
I saw that. Another reason I am calling bullshit on the whole story. The whole thing reads like an outrage story for young teens. None of it is believable.
Is there a more racist phrase commonly in use today than “people of color”? I cringe every time I hear it.
It just means ‘not evil whitey’, so no I dont believe there is.
why the dislike of Dixon?
Dixon and Power and the rest of those prissy crybabies have played an active role in turning open wheel racing in this country into the “open wheel” spec car extravaganza of managed competition we have today. The series ought to just own the entire fleet of cars outright and let the drivers draw randomly for car and starting position. At least that would potentially be entertaining
You’d give them a few days to set the car up how they like though?
OK, thanks. I’m not a motorsports guy but Dixon’s a Kiwi so I was just curious.
No military here. My dad was a conscript during Korea but was stationed in one of the Dakotas for his whole term.
I repeatedly told both of my kids to avoid military service. I would make it a point to say this after I could could use an example of a politician being a severe shitwad. And I would punctuate it by saying “Are you willing to get into a situation where someone like THAT can order you into a situation where you could be killed?” Its worked so far.
The youngest just got a flyer from the Navy wondering, over-optimistically, if she would like to become a dentist. So I guess the Global Force for Good is anticipating a shortage of toothpullers in the near future.
All the services are perpetually short of dentists. I wrote up a whole essay (for me ILE-CC at the Command & General Staff College) on mobilization difficulties the US has had since WWII – the fucking dentistry was like, #2 on the list of things that gummed up mobilizations.
She just entered the medical industry as a scribe. So I’m guessing they found that out somehow or maybe things started when she got her EMT cert.
Seems really optimistic on their part. Does being an EMT/scribe mean an interest in dentistry? What are the odds? What kind of response are they looking for?
Ain’t it wonderful how the State finds all these things out?
My Dad claims that when he went to Fort Dix for basic, the doctors there wanted to take out all his teeth.
He still has half his teeth left, 55 years after being drafted.
some random thoughts
-for most of history, more soldiers died from disease than from combat
-most who serve in the US military never see combat; of the ones who do, most can measure the time they spent under fire in minutes or hours
-most people who die in combat die at random from things like indirect fire and booby traps
-there are also many deaths from accidents and friendly fire
-in the 20th century, most of the people killed in war were civilians
-most wars were the result of one country trying to expand its territory or influence- as Stalin said, every nation imposes its own system as far as its armies can reach
-there was a George Carlin joke about him being annoyed about memorials. He said there should be just one for everyone who’s died ever- call it the Dead People Building
-killing is traumatic because it is the most vivid possible reminder that someday you too will perish
All that said, for the right cause, I think the military can be a noble thing. The Army understands me. This people looked deep inside my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined.
Take it from this pogue*: have a drink, relax, grill some meat. Everyone in the military I know is doing the same. And why not? Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is what it’s all about.
*backronyms for pogue include “people other than grunts” and “people of good use elsewhere”. It’s military slang for anyone who does not serve in a combat role and/or never saw combat.
suggested reading:
Bill the Galactic Hero, a sci-fi novel written by a disgruntled WW2 pogue
It has been described by many vets as “the only book that’s true about the military”
Don’t remember the title- it’s a short sci fi story called something like “What’s it like up there?” The title comes from the most common question a returning astronaut gets. In the story, astronauts go to Mars to mine some rare mineral and a lot of them get killed in various random and ugly ways. Still, they are all hailed as heroes because the mineral is needed to badly on earth. The astronaut struggles with survivor’s guilt.
You mean Beetle Bailey comic books aren’t true? 😉
I would add Bill Mauldin’s Up Front and Back Home as well.
“Bill the Galactic Hero” is a great book.
I second l0b0t’s suggestion of Bill Mauldin’s work.
You’d give them a few days to set the car up how they like though?
Don’t be silly. If you’re going to run a spec cars series, just go all in. Two free practices and qualifying. If they’re “consummate professionals” let ’em show it.
Spec cars. Spec shocks. Put it on the pad, adjust caster/camber/toe, tire pressures and corner weights. Take the fucking wings off. Be a man.
So you want to bring back IROC?
Bill the Galactic Hero, a sci-fi novel written by a disgruntled WW2 pogue
One of the best books I ever read, on multiple levels.
Is there a more racist phrase commonly in use today than “people of color”?
“Black male” has an impressively zoological ring to it.
“Black bodies”.
^THIS^
I would say that would come in second. I haven’t heard “black bodies” be used by anyone but hardcore SJW/proggies, while I have heard “POC” seep into much wider usage.
So you want to bring back IROC?
You’re not far off. IROC in Watson Roadsters wouldn’t be bad.
IROC in Yugos or Renault Le Cars. (Or would that be Les Cars?)
Watson roadsters
Let’s see some fresh faces out there.
True story- I used to drink beer with A J Watson. He was an amazing guy.
https://9gag.com/gag/ao1QBnx
How the fuck did the TWINS manage to lose today’s game? Say what you will about other sports, only baseball has the ability to potentially ruin 162+ days of your year. (and if you’re a fan of the TWINS and PIRATES… well, shit.)
They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not wither them. nor the years condemn
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We shall remember them…
As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
moving in marches on the heavenly plain,
as the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
To the end, to the end, they remain.
Robert Laurence Binyon
That is lovely
Dammit, I thought I was all done crying for the day. And then you had to get all, ya know, completely real, relatable, and unforgettable.
Thanks.
Good post.
Rammer Jammer Yellow Hanger …. you know the drill.
Viele Grüße aus Deutschland.