Thursday Morning Links

SO much for avoiding the sweep.  The Twins weren’t able to convert on decent field position and were held to a pair of field goals while the Astros put a couple touchdowns on the board and a late field goal of their own to win 17-6.  Meanwhile, the Penguins curb-stomped the Predators in the third period to take a 2-0 series lead as the Stanley Cup Finals got a little chippy in Game 2 as the officials forgot what cross-checking, slashing and spearing were. Half of the after-whistle play looked like they were reenacting some old Flyers Broad Street Bullies action.  Not much else in the sports world, unless you want to talk about a hilarious dashcam video. Or perhaps the expected reaction to a pretty idiotic statement. Oh yeah, the NBA Finals starts tonight too. I forgot, what with the ridiculously long break after the conference finals.

Whew.  You got all that? Good.  Because now we can get down to business with…the links!

National Review bends all the way over and shoves head up its own ass. There’s a place for federalism, dumbasses. A very clearly written constitutional amendment isn’t one of them. I wonder if they feel the same about the 1A?

Florida’s next state senator?

Florida Man does politics the only way Florida Man knows how to. By the power of Grayskull, I hope this dude wins.

In the latest brave and stunning move by a reporter to date… Oh, by the way I think the word you’re looking for in the dictionary is “alleged”, whoever wrote this.

Desperate to remain in the public eye, has-been politician makes obvious statement. Media jumps to wrong conclusion. Of course they had help…from your campaign manager’s inability to resist a phishing scam.  And probably from Seth Rich as well, whose murder was inexplicably not caught on one of the myriad video cameras dotting the area where he was killed, his killer was not spotted, the police never asked area businesses to review their footage in the immediate time surrounding the shooting and his laptop still remains in the possession of authorities even though it was allegedly a mugging gone wrong.  But I digress.

Grandstanders gonna grandstand.

Covfefe FTW!

There were quite a few Team Blue fans doing their best to ensure a permanent GOP majority in wake of Beheadgate (I’m seeing if I can make that a thing) in the comments. (TW: Salon going full Salon. Tread lightly.)

And lastly, I’m glad to finally see a reasonable reaction from a leftist writer over the whole “covfefe” thing. LOL, just kidding. This dude went 100 mph in the opposite direction from “reasonable”.

There’s a lot of people that the title to this applies.

Comments

560 responses to “Thursday Morning Links”

  1. Just a thought not a sermon

    32) I was thinking yesterday about why we have stronger support for capitalism in the United States than most other countries. I mean, on this board, we like to think it’s because the advantages of capitalism are obvious: more individual freedom, greater prosperity, more efficient use of resources, etc. But that doesn’t seem to be apparent to most people.

    In other countries, even countries that have benefited enormously from capitalism–even in the very birthplace of modern capitalism in the UK–the appeal of capitalism seems pretty tenuous. There are large, influential socialist parties or movements, and it’s common to find regular people (not just university professors or other intellectuals, as in the US) who are hardcore socialists or communists.

    I think our secret in the United States is that we’ve tied capitalism into patriotism. Capitalism is what separates us from the Russkies or the Frogs or Mexicans or whatever. Also, a particular strain of American anti-intellectualism helps here, as your average person may not know exactly what capitalism is or what makes it better in any academic way, but he’s sure that claptrap the sociology/linguistics/history professor on TV is expounding ain’t it. I’m not sure it’s anything but a lucky historical accident, but here we’ve managed to tie capitalism into our national identity.

    1. Mr Lizard

      As you mammals say “Greed is good”

      BTW the sequel to that movie sucked

    2. It also doesn’t hurt that we have a wealth of natural resources and our country, or continent really, is only a few hundred years old. Socialism or communism couldn’t have created an ocean-to-ocean nation from scratch. That could only be accomplished by adventurous and risk-taking individuals willing to stake their own fortune.

      1. Gadfly

        To expand on that, all the land we had meant that we could literally give a lot of it away for free, meaning a much higher portion of our population were property owners, and property owners tend to take a dim view of socialism (Kulaks, anyone?).

      2. AlexinCT

        We also have a lot more people that don’t think they are owed anything than most other countries, although that number is shrinking drastically as time goes bye because of the indoctrination that just being born qualifies you for a whole host of goodies, at other people’s expense, because that is how some collectivist douchebags want to interpret the constitution’s promise of right to pursue happiness and be free.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      *Technically* modern capitalism started in Renaissance Italy (Florence) with the rise of the banks (and introduction of, for example, double-entry bookkeeping by and long-established merchants.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-entry_bookkeeping_system

      And then it was taken over by Amsterdam and later London.

      Fuck Niall Ferguson for completely ignoring this fact in his capitalism show.

      1. l0b0t

        It’s been quite a spell since I read it but, IIRC, his The Ascent Of Money covered that rather well.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Didn’t read the book (I read the Collapse of Empires (?) I forget the title), but saw the show and remembered being disappointed.

      2. Evan from Evansville

        The Ascent of Money is one of my favorite books. He covers that topic very thoroughly and entertainingly.

        Has anyone else read his book Civilization: How the West Beat the Rest? He posits that 6 key developments explain how the West in 1400 was woefully behind the East/MidEast and how they explain our current seat at the top of the mountain. His last chapter is about how we may be losing our edge.

        He posits these six as: competition; science; modern medicine; democracy; consumerism; and the (Protestant) work ethic.

        I loved that book as well, though I admit I have a fanboy crush on Ferguson. He’s a good espouser of free(ish) market ideas in talks, though I imagine he’s in absolutely insufferable twat in real life.

    4. DEG

      Also, a particular strain of American anti-intellectualism helps here, as your average person may not know exactly what capitalism is or what makes it better in any academic way, but he’s sure that claptrap the sociology/linguistics/history professor on TV is expounding ain’t it. I’m not sure it’s anything but a lucky historical accident, but here we’ve managed to tie capitalism into our national identity.

      It’s not the professors I’m worried about, it’s the teachers at high school and elementary school.

    5. Rufus the Monocled

      Americans came up with deep dish. They HAVE to be capitalist.

    6. PieInTheSKy

      I think its just that you Americans are so damn racist and sexist that explains it

    7. Zero Sum Game

      And regardless of your politics, there’s a compelling case to be made for this analysis. Young voters, a block Democrats are increasingly reliant on, are broadly speaking far to the left of the elders. A majority of them now reject capitalism entirely, an extraordinary development in a country where socialism has long been viewed as an essentially alien ideology.

      Invest in jet fuel, because soon enough our helicopters are going to need a lot of it.

      1. Fatty Bolger

        What’s interesting is that their rejection of capitalism is almost all just in theory. They would have a fit if you tried to take away their ability to own property, buy or sell what they wanted, start and own a business, or keep a decent portion of their paycheck. It’s a bit like fish saying they reject water entirely.

        1. Zero Sum Game

          They’re just against other people keeping their property. Pretty typical for leftists.

      2. Enough About Palin

        OH MY G-D THE LOSERS ARE WINNING!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!1!1!!!!!!

      3. TripodKat

        A majority of them now reject capitalism entirely

        That’s because when they pose the question, they use the word “capitalism,” which, to my generation – means the collusion of large corporate organizations and governments, like what happened with the bank bailouts. They don’t hate capitalism as you and I understand it. What they actually dislike is cronyism. As for “socialism” – most aren’t thinking about confiscation of the means of production – they are thinking about welfare (“social safety nets”).

        My generation is actually quite enterprising, a larger proportion of us want to start our own business than in previous generations. We didn’t grow up in the cold war era so the differences between capitalism and socialism mean different things than they did in the past.

        Now, that being said, it is a shame that we can stick to actual definitions of words. My generation is also economically illiterate.

        1. kbolino

          As for “socialism” – most aren’t thinking about confiscation of the means of production – they are thinking about welfare (“social safety nets”).

          You mean, they are thinking of cashing out of the social safety net. Few of them are thinking about paying into it. It’s all about what it could do for them, never about what it costs others. And of course, any unintended consequences are just handwaved away if not ignored entirely.

          1. TripodKat

            That’s not what I meant, I meant what I said. But I hear what you’re saying – a lot of them often think it just gets paid for by other people, “by the rich.” Not realizing that it will also be paid by the middle class (which will be them a few years out of college). Hell, what am I saying? I was even paying for it when I was making $7.50 working at the movie theatre.

        2. Zero Sum Game

          I’m well aware that they conflate cronyism with capitalism. I’ve argued with the sort with such frequency that I’m worn out, nay, nauseated by it. The dust of that road’s well worked into my boots, my knees ache and my body weary.

          The more I return to the old road and my old habits trudging that rut, the more I realize how little effect any of us have had on those we’ve met upon it. The more I feel that the new road is the only one forward.

          The old road is civil discourse – educated dialectic motivated by peaceful tolerance of dissent and mutual respect. But our opponents reject that. They memorize maybe five chants and repeat them aided by numbers or technology to drown out discourse. None of our education or wit matters in the face of that. It prevents us from reaching the bystander who might otherwise be moved by our passion for freedom, always our audience, for ideologues couldn’t be swayed anyway. Showing up our adversaries as fools by dancing intellectual circles around them might have been mesmerizing, if anyone could hear it over the din.

          The new road is the deliberate choice to engage the same way they engage us: simple, distilled thoughts, often not quite true… Provocation to anger… Intentional division on collectivist/tribalist lines. It is an acceptance that sophistry works, even if it is stupid. It’s every bad-faith tactic of the political left that has worked so well to bolster their numbers. It is total war with a goal none-other than the absolute annihilation of the political left because there is little worth salvaging there. It is putting straw Nazis in the windows to convince the left there is a horrific adversary lurking so as to overreact so dreadfully that the center must be awakened from its complacency, apathy, and appeasement mentality.

          I do not like the new road, but my feet fall lighter upon it, my joints ache less, my road-weariness dissipates. The new road is, at least fun. It is winning. Losing is not fun, and all libertarians have been doing is losing.

          1. Pan Zagloba

            Ace of Spades blog posted along similar lines couple days ago

            I didn’t particularly want Kathy Griffin fired — but it was necessary.

            I actually envy her lack of inhibition and total feeling of freedom. She felt she could do whatever she wanted, so long as it broke no laws.

            I’d like to feel that way. But I can’t.

            I can’t feel that way, because I know the progressive mob is always scalp-hunting, and that I am not free to say or think as I might like.

            They rule part of my brain — my very fear of them limits my thoughts, creates inhibitions and limitations in me which I did not choose for myself, but were forced upon me from without.

            I have become, partly, a recruit in the Social Justice Warrior army. Their dicta, their demands, their fury is always alive inside of me.

            I know to fear them. And so I must self-censor.

          2. TripodKat

            Damn, dude, I was just saying that “capitalism” doesn’t mean to these kids what we know it to actually mean.

            I gave up trying to convince anyone of anything a long time ago, now I just make fun of the people I disagree with. Which, as it turns out, works pretty well with the moderates.

          3. Zero Sum Game

            Yep, and I’m just saying that I’m through with trying to convince them otherwise.

            All they deserve is annihilation. Embrace the void, leftists.

          4. Emmerson Biggins

            Fuck. You are totally right. And this is how get to the dark side.

          5. Emmerson Biggins

            (we get to)

  2. Rufus the Monocled

    Not first.

    1. Don’t worry it’s a Canadian thing.

  3. Old Man With Candy

    There’s a lot of people that the title to this applies.

    When I saw that, I thought you were going to link to this.

    1. Or perhaps this.

      I still stand by my selection. Those luddites put out a few good songs.

      1. BigT

        Um……this!

        1. Mike Schmidt

          This came to mind

  4. Just a thought not a sermon

    “Christian “He-Man” Schlaerth qualified Tuesday for the Senate District 40 special election.”

    Someday I plan to run for office as JustaThought “T-Bone” NotaSermon

    1. JustaThought “T-Bone Koko the monkey” NotaSermon

      FIFY!

      1. Just a thought not a sermon

        Yeah, well the Jerk Store called, and they’re running out of you!

        1. WTF

          It doesn’t matter, you’re their biggest seller!

          1. PieInTheSKy

            what is the status of you wife if he/she exists?

  5. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Covpoppy

    That is all

  6. TW: annoying GIFs

    The “I’ll Never Date A Feminist” Think Pieces Point To A Bigger Underlying Misconception About The Movement

    Terms like “feminazi” and “feminist killjoy”, or even phrases like “feminism is cancer” is indicative of some seriously hideous underlying animosity toward feminism. To compare someone seeking out equality in all aspects of society to the Jewish holocaust, or a serious disease, is incredibly distasteful.

    When these attitudes are brought into the dating world, it can become a toxic playground for misogyny and perpetuating subjugation of women. Sadly, there are still far too many men who are intimidated by accomplished, unapologetically feminist women. With our changing world and society, women no longer need to “rely” on men for the things our foremothers needed to: financial stability, social status, raising a family. Which should be a freeing thought in any heterosexual dating situation, but instead it can come off as a threat.

    The issue of raising men to understand women and girls as equals today is one for another blog post, and one which we have talked about in other ways. But at the heart of it, if more heterosexual men came to a date not feeling the burden of needing to appear superior, and balking at any mention of a woman’s autonomy and happiness that doesn’t rely on anyone else, perhaps feminism wouldn’t be such a threat.

    1. But at the heart of it, if more heterosexual men came to a date not feeling the burden of needing to appear superior, and balking at any mention of a woman’s autonomy and happiness that doesn’t rely on anyone else, perhaps feminism wouldn’t be such a threat.

      Then why is the harpy on a date in the first place?

      1. The Sleeper

        Because sex is a right!

      2. Slammer

        Because she secretly knows having a baby will make her a real woman

      3. commodious spittoon

        balking at any mention of a woman’s autonomy and happiness that doesn’t rely on anyone else

        That’s one big reason why I wouldn’t date a feminist, because the foregoing statement is anathema to modern feminism.

        1. AlexinCT

          I have dated quite of few women that absolutely want you to know they are self sufficient strong feminists, and need nobody to either be successful or happy, since my divorce a few years back, that talked like this. And I tell you that not a single one of them was either self sufficient or capable of happiness unless they were making someone do all the heavy lifting and then taking credit for it. Which probably explains why they constantly felt men were the problem.

          1. commodious spittoon

            We are the problem, but we can’t help how irresistible we are.

    2. Just a thought not a sermon

      “someone seeking out equality in all aspects of society”

      I have met women who considered or called themselves feminists who believe that is what feminism is about. But they didn’t spend a lot of time reflecting on it, or consider it the most important thing they were doing. These women are normal.

      But no woman I have ever met who was really into feminism, who considered it a core part of her identity, was normal, and a very high percentage of such women have been outright deranged. And not one of them was fighting for equality for women.

      1. WTF

        ^This. Modern feminism has fuck-all to do with equality under the law. It seeks to privilege women and punish men. That is why there is a backlash against it.

        1. AlexinCT

          Funny how when you point out that if for feminism to work, what men traditionally bring to a relationship/partnership, seems to practically in all cases have to be replaced with help from a government that rips off productive people, that these ladies all go bonkers, huh?

      2. PieInTheSKy

        equality in all aspects sounds socialism to me, which makes it kinda like Nazism

        1. Exactamundo.

          This b moves the goalposts like crazy. If it were simply about equality before the law and building a culture where men respect women as equals, I think most people would be for it. Shit, I think that’s great. Only, it’s not about that. Just like environmentalism, modern feminism is steeped in Marxism. Talk to a modern feminist (or environmentalist) and you won’t be able to get five minutes in without hearing some critical theory bullshit.

        2. AlexinCT

          Some people are more equal than others…

      3. AlexinCT

        And practically every one of them I know had no objection of playing the strong feminist card constantly, but then, as soon as it was convenient, play the victim card. And they would go batshit crazy when you pointed out that they were either deluded about their self sufficiency and feminist creds or the whole movement was predicated on seeking special status by snowflakes.

    3. Brett L

      Lol. Way to nail the stereotype. 9/10. Would not date.

    4. straffinrun

      With our changing world and society, women no longer need to “rely” on men for the things our foremothers needed to: financial stability, social status, raising a family.

      You still need men, lady. Who’s going to send the thugs around to shake us down for our tax money which funds your “independent” lifestyle?

      1. WTF

        Without men civilization would collapse with a few weeks. Because feminist thought isn’t how things are kept running.

        1. commodious spittoon

          No, see, they have a feminine ethic and will remake the world in their image, and humynity will no longer be driven by masculine exploitation and oppression.

        2. Agent Cooper

          +1 Paglia living in huts.

      2. PieInTheSKy

        Anyway its hard to run a household and family as a single parent, so I think than men should rely on women and women on men for that

        1. Certified Public Asshat

          Work together? Now that is pie in the sky.

      3. Certified Public Asshat

        Hmm, I bet an overbearing nagging feminist might do well as an IRS agent.

        1. AlexinCT

          The lot of them would excel at doing that against other women.. Against men I think it wouldn’t work so well. If you want to see a woman go all “I would take a flamethrower to this place”, set her up against another woman…

    5. TripodKat

      To compare someone seeking out equality in all aspects of society

      “Kill all white men!”

      1. straffinrun

        In a way, it would be balanced that way.

    6. WTF

      Sadly, there are still far too many men who are intimidated by accomplished, unapologetically feminist women.

      Refusing to put up with your annoying, self-centered bullshit because you’re not worth the trouble when there are better, less obnoxious options does not equal “intimidation”.

    7. PieInTheSKy

      “underlying animosity toward feminism. ” – actually its pretty much in the open

    8. Michael

      With our changing world and society, women no longer need to “rely” on men for the things our foremothers needed to,,,

      Okay, so what’s the problem? If you no longer need men, then why should you care if none want to date you?

      1. Well, see, the problem is, lady, that if your idea of “equality” is subsidized access to birth control, guaranteed lengthy maternity leave, and special accommodations for things like the physical requirements of basic training, as a for instance, then you’re going to need to rely on men. Somebody’s gotta make the money for you to tax to pay for that shit. Somebody’s gotta show up to work while you’re at home with a kid. Somebody’s gotta be able to fireman’s carry a 200 pound person out of a burning building or drag a wounded soldier out of harm’s way.

    9. The Elite Elite

      With our changing world and society, women no longer need to “rely” on men for the things our foremothers needed to: financial stability, social status, raising a family.

      Oh, you are still relying on men for all that. It’s just that because everything goes through the middleman known as government you seem to overlook that you still get all that from men. So your “autonomy” very much relies on others. If you lost your food stamps and welfare, I bet you wouldn’t be “autonomous” anymore.

      1. Akira

        “If you lost your food stamps and welfare, I bet you wouldn’t be “autonomous” anymore.”

        We already see this reaction when anyone mentions cutting funding for Planned Parenthood.

        1. kbolino

          Or the calls to build “self-sustaining communities” which somehow requrie massive Federal/state handouts.

    10. commodious spittoon

      Terms like “feminazi” and “feminist killjoy”, or even phrases like “feminism is cancer” is indicative of some seriously hideous underlying animosity toward feminism.

      Well thank God the writer recognizes it’s not animosity toward women but toward ideol–

      a toxic playground for misogyny and perpetuating subjugation of women

      Oh.

  7. Rufus the Monocled

    -Re: The Penguins. Scary thing is they’re playing terrible.
    -Re: Woods. Man, I kept hoping he’d say while in that medicated state, ‘I won many much tournaments….whoosh!’
    -Re: Lawyer suing pharma companies: It’s pieces of shits like that who threaten breakthroughs like the one Merck pulled. Scumbag pukes.

    1. BigT

      The difference is goaltending. Often the lesser team can win with a hot goaltender, and the better team loses with a sieve.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Yeh, Rinne has hit a wall to match Pittsburgh’s sudden lack of juice.

        1. Tundra

          Minnesota’s own Jake Guentzel has been pretty damn good. As a matter of fact, that line has been the best one in both games.

          1. Chipwooder

            Guentzel is a modern day Rob Brown. Anonymous scrub elevated by playing with a generational center.

  8. Rufus the Monocled

    I’m just gonna put it out there.

    Gen X are cooler than Millennials.

    WHO’S WITH ME?

    1. Mike Schmidt

      Go Gen X!

    2. WHO’S WITH ME?

      Um, everybody? Including millennials.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      WOOHOO!

      *resumes slacking*

    4. TripodKat

      I think generation Z is going to be cooler than all of us. Growing up in hard times – terrorism, weak economy, rising costs – I think they might end up being a conservative generation. Just a guess.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Supposedely that’s the case but we’ll see after the professors get ahold of them.

        1. TripodKat

          These people grew up steeped in the internet culture – I think a significant number of them will buck authority figures. Plus, the oldest of this generation is turning 17 now – so they’ve already been through the bulk of the brainwashing process and they seem to be going strong.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        The ‘Next Great Generation’?

    5. Just a thought not a sermon

      Yep. Some of the millennials I work with are nice people, hard workers, not too loopy. But Good Lord, the things they think are fun. Craft beer and mixed martial arts I’ll give them credit for.

      But the obsessions with food, is it locally-sourced, is it gluten-free, is it this, is it that, who cares? And the total inability to distinguish real music from god-awful pap. “But it’s fun to listen to, so who cares?” But that’s the problem. That you consider ex-Disney stars or sitzpinkler bands like MGMT or whoever is popular now “fun” in the first place.

      Not too generalize or anything.

      1. Agent Cooper

        I like some of MGMT. Not a millennial.

        1. TripodKat

          Snake person!

        2. I like the album with “Kids”. Allegedly they made the whole thing as a sort of troll, purposely making catchy pop music to be ironic. I guess I’m a square or whatever, because I like it.

      2. Waterfall Insurance

        As a millennial I got I’ve got to tell you MGMT was roughly 4 generations of sitzplinkers ago. Check out the rapper Logic or Beyonce’s sister Solange we sitzplink in safe space segrated bathrooms now.

        1. Mike Schmidt

          I think I understood about 3 words of that.

          And get off my lawn!

          1. Waterfall Insurance

            You have a lawn, i live in an apartment *triggered* just keep bragging about your freeholder privelege the top mob is coming any day now.

          2. one true athena

            That reminds me of a “LAWNS ARE EVIL” rant I read, some mishmash of environmentalism (it wastes water and is unnatural!) mixed with some patriarchical nonsense of oppression through grass or something. And it was just incredibly stupid.

          3. compgrokker

            I think I understood about 3 words of that.

            Same, and I’m a millennial. An older one, but still.

            Get off my lawn, too!

        2. Agent Cooper

          Shit. Solange’s album is better than Beyonce’s.

    6. ArchieBunker

      That’s not even debatable. Now, where can I turn in my Pepsi points for cool stuff

      1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        Nowhere. They stopped offering the AV-8B as a prize back in the 90s.

    7. DEG

      Yes, but some of us are a bit biased.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        The science is settled DEG. Embrace it!

    8. straffinrun

      Are you taking a poll of Millennials here?

    9. WTF

      That’s a pretty low bar.

    10. PieInTheSKy

      We don’t have those in Romania so I wouldn’t know where I stand

    11. JD

      The younger people in my office are a disaster. They don’t even get along with each other.

    12. Fatty Bolger

      Snake people are the worst.

    13. The Elite Elite

      To be sure.

    14. Tundra

      Yes.

    15. Michael

      (checks Swatch)

      It’s party time!

  9. Josh Gates searches for Vietnam’s Big Foot on Destination Truth

    Also know as Người rừng, meaning forest man, the creature is reported to be between 5 – 6 foot in height and be covered in fur ranging from black to reddish.

    Dr. John MacKinnon claimed to have spotted tracks of the Batutut it in 1970 and believed it might be similar Meganthropus, itself similar to Homo erectus.

    Others disagree and have proposed it could be a surviving group of Homo erectus or even Neanderthals.

    Most descriptions have the creature eating fruit or small forest animals but in Borneo the legends involve a very aggressive hominid that attacks humans, being fond of livers.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      the creature is reported to be between 5 – 6 foot in height

      Well, that excludes Warty.

    2. Slammer

      STEVE SMITH LOVE THE SMELL OF HIKERS IN THE MORNING

      1. WTF

        STEVE SMITH RAPE HIKERS IN THEIR LIVERS!

    3. Agent Cooper

      STEVE SMITH HAVE OWN TIT OFFENSIVE

    4. Chipwooder

      STEVE SMITH LOVE BIG BOWL OF PHO AFTER RAPES

    5. Bobarian LMD

      Homo erectus or even Neanderthals

      STEVE SMITH NO HOMO. HIM DEFINITELY ERECTUS.

  10. Stinky Wizzleteats

    So, other than having a name I feel like I might have heard before, who the hell is Seth Abramson? That Twatter thread, or whatever you call it, is pretty damn funny.

    1. The Sleeper

      He has a tinfoil twitter thread from March where he “put the pieces together” for the whole Russian conspiracy, which amounts to maybe, possibly selling oil to Russia (or us buying it from them, it’s hard to discern in 140 characters per crackpot tweet) because Trump moved a briefing after securing the primary from one venue to another. Because the new one had “VIP” access and he met with some ambassadors.

      And that’s the only place he could have ever had those meetings. Yep.

      1. WTF

        Let me guess, this same guy is completely incurious about the fact that Hillary Clinton had the State Department approve selling control of around 25% of America’s uranium supply to a Russian interest after the Russians donated over $100 million to the Clinton Foundation slush fund, am I right?

        1. AlexinCT

          Yeah, that’s not anything bad or illegal, but Trump is the new Nazi prez….

        2. compgrokker

          Eh, she’s Team Blue, so it’s totes cool. Only a shitlord would question Her.

    2. westernsloper

      My favorite reply to him on that thread:

      Tim Owensby‏ @TimOwensby 15h15 hours ago
      I bet you’ve given your banking information to more than a few Nigerian government officials who sent you emails, huh?

  11. hokay….

    Are We Witnessing the Battle Involving an Antimary and an Antichrist?

    In case we needed further evidence of how entrenched the antimary is, the recent news cycle features Planned Parenthood abortionists laughing about dismembering babies while Glamour Magazine gives instructions for DIY abortion pills that pair nicely with Chardonnay. (Okay, they didn’t add the wine, but it isn’t a stretch). Truly our zeitgeist is captivated (or captured) with distinctive antimary markings. This unprecedented movement of destruction, where a culture is led by female vice, not male brute force, has bled into every area of our culture — with no man, women, child (or fetus) left untouched.

    One of the more curious and revealing taboos seen in radical feminists, however, is their silence on women in Islam — female genital mutilation, headscarves and burkas, polygamy, child marriage, 24-hour “marriages” to justify rape, and limited career opportunities all get a pass by this easily outraged group. Why? The answer seems to lie in the fact that radical Islam is guided by a similar spirit — the spirit of an antichrist. Beheadings, rape, torture — performed like sport — while targeting Christians, Jews, and the innocent, are their calling card. The antimary and this new antichristian movement are opposite sides of the same demonic coin. The two came together with Kathy Griffin’s beheading stunt this week.

    They share a common mission: to eliminate all that is good, true, beautiful, and holy.

    There is a catch, however. While these two are working in tandem now, like all unions with the devil, there will be a bloody divorce. The first stirrings of it are now surfacing in Europe, as we saw with the Manchester massacre.

    1. WTF

      They share a common mission: to eliminate all that is good, true, beautiful, and holy.

      To be fair, if you eliminate the supernatural mumbo jumbo, it’s pretty much the truth.

    2. antisthenes

      Seems strange to introduce new characters into the mix when you already have the Whore of Babylon and the Beast she rides, which identfies similar actors with a similar relationship.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Yeah, but she sounds like a pretty good time.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      Well if this is all getting religious, I guess that makes Al Franken Jesus.

      “I think she’s a very talented comedian, but this was way, way, way, way over the line, and I told her so,” he said. “She not only asked for forgiveness but begged for forgiveness, and I believe in forgiveness.”

      1. WTF

        How is it up to him to forgive something when he was not the one transgressed against? What an asshole.

        1. SimonD

          Maybe the only part he thought was a sin was that it made the donkeys look bad?

  12. TripodKat

    Covfefe broken down:

    Co = Cobalt = 27
    V = Vanadium = 23
    Fe = Iron = 26
    Fe = Iron = 26

    Google 27232626, first image was a green toad. Praise kek?

    The google search has been all messed up now that 4chan and reddit are all over it, but I still find it funny.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      The world has officially gone fucking insane.

      1. The Sleeper

        The whole cult of Kek thing is still a pretty fantastic read.

    2. WTF

      It’s the real formula for concentrated dark matter.

      1. Count Potato

        Anyone know when season 3 starts?

        1. WTF

          Soon, I hope. But I actually have no idea.

        2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          It already has. Also episode 2 today I hear.

      2. Michael

        I first read that as “concentrated DANK matter” and it weirdly made more sense.

  13. Drake

    For the first time in 21 years a law making it illegal to cut young girls’ genitalia will be challenged, claiming freedom of religion as a defense, the Detroit Free Press reports.

    1. The people challenging that need ride their buggies back to their farms in Lancaster, PA and leave civilized society alone.

      1. Drake

        More like their camels back to the Middle East.

        1. Wait, you mean it’s not the Christian Taliban Amish? So Jezebel has been bullshitting me all along?

          1. commodious spittoon

            What’s especially concerning is that those bearded brimheads are able to project power all the way to Europe from their hovels and barns.

      2. Certified Public Asshat

        We went to Hershey Park yesterday with the kids and my son (5) thought it was hilariously awesome that he saw someone dressed as a villager (he’s been playing AOEII). He was really over the top with how awesome he thought her “costume” was.

        Ah kids. It was just slightly embarrassing I suppose.

        1. commodious spittoon

          WOLOLOOOO

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      There are different levels of cutting apparently, ranging from a ritualistic nicking to removal of parts. The latter certainly has to go while the former would likely be upheld as protected religious practice I would think.

      1. Private Chipperbot

        Just the tip?

      2. Drake

        How about we just wait until the young ladies are adults and let them decide if they want somebody taking a razor to their genitalia? (I have the same policy with my son’s junk)

        1. I’ve got a daughter, but the wife and I are gonna roll the dice soon and see if we can get a son in the mix. Before we knew the sex of our kid, we talked about the whole foreskin thing. I was born in ’78 at a military hospital, and of course the thought at the time was that you just clip it right off the bat for hygiene purposes, which is I think a holdover from Viet Nam. When I think about having someone do that to a baby of mine, I can’t go through with it.

      3. one true athena

        The worst levels of it are appalling and infuriating. It’s not even ‘only’ cutting, in some cases. vile vile practice

        That any woman who claims to be a feminist will have ANY truck with people who defend this practice is not a group I’m interested in associating with.

    3. Suthenboy

      But the feminists are showing up in the courtroom in force to fight this, right?

      This shit must be killed with fire. Immediately.

    4. Fatty Bolger

      Anybody else get a funny sense of deja vu when they watch The Handmaid’s Tale? Must be reminding me of the Reagan 80’s, yes, I’m sure that’s what it is.

    5. Juice

      “Male circumcision is allowed, which is much more invasive than the very minor religious procedure (that defendants practice),” said Chartier, who believes the religious freedom argument will stick.

      If it’s much more invasive, then should it not also be outlawed?

      Male circumcision has health benefits, such as helping prevent disease and cleanliness.

      This is pure bullshit that for some reason won’t stop being repeated. And cleanliness? Try using some fucking soap.

      1. Gadfly

        This is pure bullshit that for some reason won’t stop being repeated.

        The health benefits line keeps being repeated because it’s true. The question isn’t whether it has health benefits, it’s whether they are significant enough to justify the procedure. Most national health institutes have decided that they are not, but in places where STDs are rampant and hygiene is poor (such as parts of Africa) it is still recommended. There are many procedures that have health benefits that most people will never have because they don’t think the trade-off is worth it, but just because it might not be worth it to do something doesn’t mean it doesn’t have benefits.

        1. Gadfly

          Stupid tags – put the first paragraph in italics as it was a quote but forgot to use -em- instead of -I-.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    Is that Kathy Griffin and Trump’s Head on the main page?

  15. straffinrun

    “This was the biggest nothing-burger ever,” Clinton said of the email investigation.

    You could spike her brownies with military grade Exlax and she’d say the same thing.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I don’t trust the NYT or WaPo when the source is known and vetted. Anything that’s sourced anonymously I’m just going to have to assume it’s made up or complete horseshit.

    2. straffinrun

      This has to stop, at least until the Fourth Estate reestablishes its credibility with the American people, which could take a very long time.

      Never going to happen. Welcome to the new normal where no one believes a single word out of media sources they don’t have ideological loyalty to.

      1. The Sleeper

        This is where I’m at.

        I used to stick to Reason. Then they went insane, too.

        I’m actually kind of depressed about it. It’s pretty damn sad when places like /pol/ are more trustworthy than any given established news site.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          You can still figure out a reasonable facsimile of the truth but it takes quite a bit of work.

          1. Yeah, maybe this is normal. I mean, for the overwhelming majority of the history of mass media there really was no such thing as an unbiased source. The idea that journalists are some sort of priesthood of the Truth probably came about from the muckrakers around the turn of the century, but even they had political agendas.

            It’s probably safer and better to be forced to go looking for the truth on your own than to rely on professionals to deliver it to you on a platter. The added bonus is that you decide what’s actually important. Having more or less divorced myself from mainstream media I’m always a little surprised to see the crap that becomes a major headline, and how often opinion pieces are run alongside or above actual “news”. WaPo is particularly guilty of that.

          2. Gadfly

            I think the idea of journalism being unbiased truth-seeking came about with the advent of television news. Since there were so few channels each one had to try to appeal to the entire country since everyone was watching just one of those few. Plus, the government regulated television news, since airwaves were a limited resource, which was a new practice that would not have been tolerated of the newspapers, so the TV journalists had to affect an air of neutrality to please the government.

          3. That makes sense.

  16. London’s Brexit Apocalypse Is Nowhere in Sight

    “London’s success owes nothing whatever to being in the European Union,” Lawson says, as if it should be obvious, but rather to “this huge collection of expertise” in finance and related industries that he argues will never pick up and go. The picture he paints of post-Brexit Britain is of a nation shorn of unhelpful multilateral entanglements, with “complete autonomy over our tax system,” which “should be, en principe, a low-tax system.” He speaks optimistically of restructuring immigration to remove the current distinction whereby bricklayers from Slovenia face no visa restrictions, yet American Ph.D.s must fill out miles of forms and cross their fingers—treating “citizens from anywhere in the world on an equal basis.”

    And proving the notion that to scratch a Brexiteer is to quickly uncover fond memories of the last time there was such a thing as Global Britain, Lawson says that as Europe’s economy stagnates, “it’s the emerging world which is really going places. And a large part of the emerging world is the former empire”—India, Nigeria, Malaysia, and so on, with which Britain still enjoys close cultural and political ties. Indeed, there’s an argument to be made that the emerging economies need London as a stable venue for making deals and protecting assets.

    1. Password gl1b

      “London’s success owes nothing whatever to being in the European Union,” Lawson says, as if it should be obvious, but rather to “this huge collection of expertise” in finance and related industries that he argues will never pick up and go.

      It’s almost as if economic prosperity relies on human innovation and not just access to raw resources or population size or whatever! It’s almost as if capital and material wealth can be built seemingly out of nothing just by invention! As Ayn Rand put it (paraphrasing), “In the United States, there is a saying that one ‘makes money,’ as if out of thin air.”

  17. Thomas Friedman: Trump’s United American Emirate

    We have an emir. His name is Donald. We have a crown prince. His name is Jared. We have a crown princess. Her name is Ivanka. We have a consultative council (Congress) that rubber-stamps whatever the emir wants. And like any good monarchy, our ruling family sees no conflict of interest between its personal businesses and those of the state.

    … snip….

    Does Trump have a point that German economic policies have dampened its imports and disadvantaged southern Europe? Yes, he does. And NATO members should fulfill the alliance’s long-term spending targets. But how much is Germany spending to absorb one million Syrian refugees so they won’t be joining ISIS? How much security is that buying the world? The U.S. took 18,000 Syrians. Trump’s friend Putin took zero, but Trump never thinks about such things.

    It took us decades to build the Atlantic alliance and it has brought us so many tangible and intangible benefits in the form of security, stability, growth and friendships. Trump could actually break it, not just crack it.etc

    1. Just a thought not a sermon

      “But how much is Germany spending to absorb one million Syrian refugees so they won’t be joining ISIS?”

      You sure about that, Tom?

      1. BigT

        “But how much is Germany spending to absorb one million Syrian refugees so they won’t be joining including many from ISIS?”

        FIFY

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Thomas is FRIED-MAN.

    3. Suthenboy

      That’a’boy Tommy. Keep it up.

    4. Agent Cooper

      “that rubber-stamps whatever the emir wants”

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      1. WTF

        It was actually true in 2009 – 2010.

    5. Chipwooder

      Hmmmm…..so many words but no info on what his cabdriver in Athens had to say?

    6. Um, Tom? I’m bad at this, but I think that might be what you call “begging the question”.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    Hillary Clinton provided a lengthy and in-depth deconstruction Wednesday about the confluence of factors she believes cost her the 2016 presidential election, arguing that some in the United States must have helped Russians “weaponize” information to use against her.

    All she really needed to say was, “They saw right through me.”

    1. WTF

      Yeah, the worst thing the Russians may have actually done, although it’s not proven it was even them, is use a phishing scam to expose what Hillary and the Democrats were actually doing.

    2. FreeSociety

      For fucks sake Podesta’s password was……password. My computer illiterate father could have “hacked” the guy’s email in less than thirty seconds. Why this could only have been by the Russians, I don’t know. Why it’s more egregious that some Russians did it rather than some guy in Dogdick Iowa, I don’t know. Why the left thinks any release of private yet TRUE information (that embarrasses the left) constitutes electoral fraud, I do know. They’re sociopaths that hate losing and fear being kept out of power.

      1. butt-head

        I thought that was a myth?

  19. Pomp

    The neo-Red Scare going on is completely depressing.

    1. FreeSociety

      The Red Scare was a rational response to the enslavement of about 1/3rd of the earth’s population to communists. What we have now is something more base and unjustifiable. It’s more like a mass hysteria cooked up by sore losers.

  20. Trigger Hippie

    I resent the fact that Sprint’s mobile home page links stories from HuffPo.

    That is all.

  21. Jefe Hayek

    I clearly saw a Thicc Thursday announcement on the Glibs twitter. That is a very unfunny trick you played on me

    *lowers self from swing, puts pants back on*

    1. SugarFree

      It will go up at the usual time tonight. There seems to be an issue between Twitter notifications of a scheduled post and a posted post. We are looking into it.

  22. straffinrun

    The 8 year old daughter wants an electone piano. She’s been practicing on the electric piano we bought for her five years ago, but wants one like they use in the musical school she goes to on the weekend. Did a google search on them (I am NOT a musician and have no idea what this stuff costs) and found out the one she wants is same one they use at the school. Price of a new Diahatsu. We could afford it, but that means the wife will take the hit on the budget out of my spending money. The line between spoiling the kid and giving them the tools they need to thrive is a tough one to draw.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Ebay/Craigslist. People are always relinquishing their dreams that their kid is the next Yuja Wang.

      1. straffinrun

        That was my thoughts exactly. But, nooooo. Can’t buy anything used because “ick”. Maybe I’ll just buy a used one and set it up before she gets home. Tell her it’s new. <> people won’t buy anything used except books and porno.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Bah. Nobody ever learned the pipe organ on a new instrument.

          And if you buy a new piano for a kid just starting out, I’d like to see your bank account.

          1. straffinrun

            That’s the thing. She has been practicing regularly on her own for about 4 years. Love her to death, but she isn’t going to be filling Carnegie Hall anytime soon. Maybe she will one day, but I doubt it.

        2. That was my thoughts exactly. But, nooooo.

          You’re gonna have to pull your skirt up and let her know who’s the boss.

        3. Pomp

          But, nooooo. Can’t buy anything used because “ick”.

          Lame, luckily my household is on the same page on this issue.

          1. straffinrun

            WTF. That was suppose to read “These” people with tented brackets. Tried for a new twist on the (((these))) people. People just don’t buy used shit here. They take excellent care of stuff and use it forever, so I don’t really blame them.

          2. commodious spittoon

            They take excellent care of stuff and use it forever

            That seems like a good reason to buy used.

        4. Lachowsky

          I have bought a lot of used stuff in my life without issue. I got burned 3 years ago though. I bought leather couch from a friend of a friend. I got a good deal, I thought. I paid like 300 bucks for it. A few months later, I noticed bed bugs in my house. Cost me 500 bucks to get rid of them. I had to wash all the clothes in my house. Empty every closet and drawer, do laundry for 2 days straight. Pay an exterminator. We got them killed, but man that sucked. The exterminator said they originated from that couch.

          1. Gadfly

            That’s why they say to never buy upholstered stuff used. Anything with hard surfaces is safe, but with upholstery you run the risk of infestation.

    2. howabout a decent synthesizer/keyboard? You can still play piano on it, and it’s fun to experiment with the different settings. I have an Akai MINIAK which is loads of fun to play.

      1. derp you already mentioned she has a keyboard.

        1. straffinrun

          You had me scouring that post for a minute or so. I demand compensation.

          1. ::hands over a can of muddy guzzoline::

    3. Suthenboy

      Welcome to parenthood Straffin. Don’t worry, as she gets older it gets easier and cheaper *snort snicker snort*

    4. Count Potato

      Is that a marketing thing in Japan? In the U.S., Electone are organs made by Yamaha.

      1. straffinrun

        Considering her musical school is “Yamaha Music School”, you’d think I’d have figured that out. Blind spots. I’ve got a few.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Is that the one that advertises on TV? Shows kids at a recital and the parents beaming?

          1. straffinrun

            Yamaha and Suzuki both have schools teaching music. Sounds like one of them.

        2. Count Potato

          My point was that they are organs, not pianos. So they don’t have even hammer action keys.

          Most electronic pianos with hammer action, such as Kurzweil, use keyboards made by Fatar.

          In regards to actual pianos, many of the European and Japanese brand-name names are made in other places in asia such as China and Korea. Which doesn’t mean they are bad. Young Chang has a very good reputation at this point.

          1. straffinrun

            I wasn’t being smart, I really know Jack Squat about this stuff. I just want one that looks like the one she uses (obviously a Yamaha) and that won’t cost a fortune. I’ll check out Young Chang.

    5. Tundra

      My daughter wanted a marimba for home. I priced them out, laughed and told her to go to school early and use the ones there.

      Worked out fine.

    6. Gilmore

      You can get a weighted-key midi controller for about $500. You need to plug it into something as a sound generator e.g. – laptop, sound module, probably an iPad even has some softsynth piano. I bet you can get a cheap Alesis piano module on ebay for like $100. I have one of these in storage myself

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALESIS-NanoPiano-64-Voice-Stereo-Piano-Module-w-Alesis-Power-Adapter-/262961839604

  23. Nigel Farage ‘named as a person of interest in massive FBI investigation into Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia’

    US investigators later determined they were provided to Wikileaks through a third party after being hacked by operatives at the behest of Vladimir Putin.

    The source told the paper: “One of the things the intelligence investigators have been looking at is points of contact and persons involved.

    “If you triangulate Russia, WikiLeaks, Assange and Trump associates the person who comes up with the most hits is Nigel Farage.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      It’s good to see this mass delusion isn’t limited to the US.

    2. Drake

      He is an interesting guy, and I would love to hear him tear the whole thing apart in testimony.

    3. Fatty Bolger

      I take this to mean that we’ve been spying on Farage for years.

    4. TripodKat

      “If you triangulate Russia, WikiLeaks, Assange and Trump associates the person who comes up with the most hits is Nigel Farage.

      “I mean, we did a google search and the guy is conservative…”

    5. “It is reported”
      “The source”
      “Unnamed insiders”

      In other words, we want to spin a narrative with zero corroboration.

      1. Suthenboy

        “One of the interns pulled this straight out of his ass during our last staff meeting”

    6. Juvenile Bluster

      Really? The S*n? You could shit on a piece of paper until it somehow formed words, and it would still be more likely to be true than whatever that rag prints.

    7. Brett L

      I eagerly look forward to him savaging American Congresscritters in a hearing like a terrier on a nest of rats.

      1. WTF

        Which is why they would never dare have him at a hearing. Congress critters may be stupid overall, but they do tend to have a kind of animal cunning and sense for self-preservation.

    8. Suthenboy

      ‘One source’ huh? Thats solid.

      “If you triangulate Russia, WikiLeaks, Assange and Trump associates the person who comes up with the most hits is Nigel Farage.”
      Does this triangulation take place inside a salt pentagram by the light of a full moon and are Juju sticks involved? Speaking in tounges?

      1. Drake

        I tried it with string and pins but I ended up in the middle of the Atlantic. Maybe Farage is on a ship?

      2. westernsloper

        Chicken entrails stirred with a crow claw.

      3. SimonD

        meh. If there aren’t any naked dancing hippie chicks, I’m not interested.

      4. Trolleric the Goth

        Triangulate? like with a cloth Ouija board piece?

  24. BigT

    A year ago I wanted to shed a few pounds. My strategy was to eat minimal breakfast and lunch and make sure I felt hungry at least about an hour most days. My thinking was that when you feel hungry your body is starting to mine its permanent stores of fat etc., that are not touched when there is enough food in your gut. It worked great – lost 25 pounds in about 4 months.

    It looks like this has scientific basis.

    I should have patented my diet or at least written a book and cashed in.

    1. straffinrun

      It’s funny that we need studies like this. Don’t eat more than you burn. Don’t spend more than you make. Why is this still a mystery?

      1. Password gl1b

        The most bothersome trend in nutrition: “Starvation mode” makes you gain weight!

        No. Dieting is a question of diminishing returns. If you cut your caloric intake by 1,000 calories, your body will compensate a little bit, but not enough that you start gaining weight. I’m not sure that actual nutritionists say this, but a lot of other people believe it – probably as an excuse to not go on a hardcore diet because Science!

        1. TripodKat

          I’ve never heard people say that it will make you *gain* weight – but my understanding is that it will make your body eat muscle along with the fat, since muscle costs a lot more energy to maintain.

      2. Suthenboy

        Because people watch cartoons and movies where critters grow into monsters by magically conjuring up matter out of nothing?

        Seriously, when The Hulk turns back into Bruce Banner what happens to all that excess organic material? Shouldn’t he come to in a giant pile of gooey shit?

        1. WTF

          And where does all the extra mass come from in the first place?

          1. Mike Schmidt

            His dick, obviously.

      3. Lachowsky

        Eat less, exercise more. It works every time. Pretty simple.

    2. Intermittent fasting is a thing with some low-carbers. My wife always skips breakfast and easily lost a few pounds doing it.

      I’ve never been a big breakfast guy – I just don’t have an appetite in the morning – but I manage to have a protein shake (made with half-n-half) as part of my weightlifting program.

    3. TripodKat

      This is made even easier by the wearables that are out there these days. I log everything in my fitbit app. The fitbit tells me how much I burn each day so I just make sure I’m 1,200 calories or so in deficit.*

      *You have to go high on the deficit because fitbit will over-estimate the calories you burn (by about 25%-30% or so for me) on days you work out. On days you don’t work out, just eat slightly less than 2,000 calories.

      Also – get calories through healthy sources, lots of veggies (no dressing), protein, fats, whole wheats. Lost 20 pounds in 2 months doing this (plus 60 minutes of exercise 4-5 days a week).

      1. Brett L

        Wow. I didn’t realize fitbit was so far off. My Garmin is not nearly that inaccurate (10% overestimate, but only if you log activities like bike, run, swim. you get zero credit for non-logged activites, which helps).

        1. TripodKat

          There was a study published last year on several different models on how far off each one is. Its worse for men than it is for women… and this is specifically on exercise. Apple watch was the best, fitbit was somewhere in the middle I think.

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26999758

          I knew this way before the study was done, though. I burn 2,100 – 2,200 calories in a day without exercise. On days I do cardio and lifting (60 minutes total), my fitbit tells me I burn 3,200 – 3,900 calories for the day. There is no way I am burning an extra 1,200 – 1,900 calories because of 60 minutes of exercise. Its more like 600 – 700 calories (I do very intense workouts). So I just make sure I eat at a massive deficit based on the fitbit numbers.

          1. Apple Watch is pretty damn good. The only flaw is that it will sometimes think I’m running when I’m actually driving a golf cart. So when I go out and play 36 holes on a Friday (and drink 10 beers), it’s patting me on the back for what a great workout I’ve gotten in by running 10 miles. I almost wish there was a way I could apologize to it.

          2. TripodKat

            Haha, this is one area where fitbit has it pretty good. It recognizes stairs vs. elevator/escalator, knows when I’m driving (or golfing), etc.

            The one thing is that I can get some anxiety throughout the day which causes my heart rate to go above 100. Sometimes the fitbit will think this is exercise if the anxiety lasts long enough.

        2. Nephilium

          It’s not just the wearables that have that issue either. The various tracking applications all use different formulas to guess at the calories burned. For example, MapMyRide showed me burning nearly twice as many calories as RideWithGPS over the same cycling route the next day. Both rides were same distance (~11 miles), and at about the same average moving speed, so there was no way there was that large of a variance in calories burned.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Sounds sensible so fuck that. I think I’ll try eating nothing but bacon and drinking coffee with butter and coconut oil in it.

        1. TripodKat

          From what I understand, bacon is actually fine as long as you do regular cardio. (except possible heart issues later in life if you eat too much).

      3. related: Fitness tracker fail: Research shows devices off by as much as 93 per cent when counting calories

        A team of Stanford researchers, however, recently called foul after testing these trackers. The scientists said in a paper published Wednesday in the Journal of Personalized Medicine that though the devices purport to help users track their calories – daily energy expenditure -the number is often markedly incorrect.

        The least accurate, PulseOn, was off by an average of 93 per cent. The most accurate device, Fitbit Surge, was off by an average of 27 percent, the Guardian reported.

        1. TripodKat

          The headline is a bit sensationalized when you actually go through the study. Most of the other trackers are not as bad. Plus, you need to be an “average” person for it to be more accurate… it’ll be way off if you’re super overweight or a god-athlete. But, yes, they over-estimate… it seems pretty logical though, its using your height, weight, age and heart rate to figure out calories burned. After working out your heart rate remains elevated for along period of time… yes, you do get an “after burn” after working out, but the tracker will continue to count this as actual vigorous exercise. So if you do 1 hour of working out, your tracker is likely to log 2 hours of working out, and calories burned, etc.

    4. Agent Cooper

      I don’t think there’s a one-size-fits-all solution for anyone. I think weight gain/loss has too many variables. My wife tried a nutritionist’s diet that limited her caloric intake and she lost literally nothing. She had gained weight as a side effect of a medication she was on for 8 months. She started long-distance running and lost … almost nothing. She went back to weight watchers and after 6 months lost 30 pounds. So, some things work for some people and other things work for other people.

      1. TripodKat

        Has your wife tried weight lifting? Seriously, its the best thing out there. Cardio helps your heart and cardiovascular system, its probably not going to be nearly as effective for weight loss.

        Also, diets hardly ever work. I favor meal plans instead, you can eat a lot more of what you want, but you have to exercise each day, with a focus on weight lifting. Lifting weights burns fat for around 24 hours after the workout. Calories aren’t everything, it matters if the calories are from fresh food or processed shit. A huge plate-full of home-cooked pasta, chicken and broccoli will be like 500-600 calories while a single burger from five guys will be 800 calories. The difference is that the plate-full of the home cooked meal will make you full and give your body more to work with.

        1. BigT

          “Calories aren’t everything, it matters if the calories are from fresh food or processed shit.”

          Bingo! It depends on how well the body extracts the caloric value of the food. Remember olestra? It was a ‘fat substitute’. It is high in calories, but the body can’t process it, so it goes right through you. Same difference with processed vs fresh foods. The processed ones have been ‘pre-digested’ so more of the calories get used in your system.

          The kinetics of the uptake or usage of nutrients is critical.

        2. The difference is that the plate-full of the home cooked meal will make you full and give your body more to work with.

          Yeah. A shitload more carbs to deal with. Fuck that.

          LCHF FTW when it comes to weight loss. I went from 195 down to 175 in 7-8 weeks of keto/close to keto. Then back up to 50-75 carbs a day on average afterward. I’ve maintained my 175 weight for 6 months or more.

          Carbs are the debbil!

          1. robc

            When my wife had gestational diabetes, the diet they recommended was entirely carb counting:

            Breakfast 15-30 g
            Snack 15-20
            Lunch 30-45
            Snack 15-20
            Dinner 45-60
            Snack 15-20

            Works out to 135-195 g of Carbs per day. Which was exactly what I found a few years earlier was perfect for me losing and maintaining weight.

            About 150 g Carbs is high compared to “low carb” diets but works without having to entirely give up everything carby.

          2. TripodKat

            Healthy carbs are generally fine as long as they’re less than 50% of your diet and you exercise 4-5 times a week. But yes, you can cut out most carbs and rely on fats (keto diet) if you don’t want to bother exercising.

            Personally, I enjoy eating some pasta and stir-fry rice (stressing that portions are important here). I’ll take a bit of exercise over losing delicious cuisines any day.

        3. Agent Cooper

          Has your wife tried weight lifting? Seriously, its the best thing out there. Cardio helps your heart and cardiovascular system, its probably not going to be nearly as effective for weight loss.’

          She doesn’t lift but I think she is considering some strength training (time has been the major issue as she has been training for half marathons and working and such). I agree with the effects you’ve mentioned.

        4. I’ve been doing the “Program Minimum” from Pavel Tsatsouline’s RKC for the past two months and I’ve gained some weight while losing fat, something I’d been assured from several different Internet sources was difficult to impossible. Like seriously, I’m up to around 240lbs (I’m 6’3″) and my clothes fit like they did at 215. Without going into detail, exclusively “classic” kettlebell moves (swings and get-ups), four days a week, going by time rather than reps. Diet-wise, I counted calories for a bit while I was dialing in where I wanted to be on macronutrients. Now, I have a good idea of what I need to eat to hit the amount of protein I need in a day and I pretty much just don’t sweat the rest too hard. I find that by even casually tracking protein intake the rest kind of works itself out.

          It’s like you say, though. Processed foods have a bunch of salt and sugar, which wreak havoc on your metabolism and make you hold a lot of water. Also, starchy carbs are cheap, which means that they get used in a lot of processed stuff as filler to keep cost down. Now, if you’re burning a ton of calories a day that’s fine, because you’ll use the energy from the carbs, but if you’re not, then they’ll just wind up as fat.

          1. TripodKat

            Nice, good work on the gains while losing body fat %. That shit is hard to pull off. As for the carbs, I find that as long as I get most from vegetables and whole grains (the grains have to be monitored so I pay extra attention to portion size), I’m fine. But then again – I also burn about 2,800 – 3,000 calories on days I’m in the gym.

            On my rest days, I avoid bread entirely. I always focus on fats and proteins more than anything though. Carbs are approximately 30% – 40% of my diet, proteins and fats make up the rest. It’s almost 33%/33%/33%, usually carbs are near 40% though. I lost 20lbs of fat while building muscle doing this, which was my goal so I’m happy.

            Salt is my main problem. I f-ing love salt. My sugar intake is pretty damn good – it helps that I exclusively drink water (with the exception of 1.5 cups of 1% milk in the AM before cardio). But, like I said, since I eat too much salt, my body holds onto water and I can be bloated sometimes. It’s getting better though.

          2. Thanks, man!

            Yeah, I’m shooting for roughly 33% each. I aim for around 180g of protein. I find that if I nail that and just like eat a piece of cheese or meat every other time I feel like eating a piece of toast or a few chips or something like that I wind up roughly where I need to be. And I don’t drink soda, so that helps.

            Mind you, I do love me some booze. I haven’t had time to make any beer lately, so that helps, but I’ve also taken to stuff like martinis, icepicks, etc.,

            On the weekends, all bets are off. I’ll eat whatever, drink whatever, play video games for six hours and then go lay on the couch, total decadence. It’s good for the ol’ morale. Plus, I’m starting to get in the habit of not eating entire pizzas by myself or drinking an entire case of beer in a sitting, so I don’t go into Monday having lost all the progress I made in the previous week.

          3. R C Dean

            1.5 cups of 1% milk in the AM before cardio

            You’re looking at 18 – 19 grams of carbs, right there. I personally metabolize carbs by turning them straight into fat, so if I was looking to shed some more weight, that’s where I’d look.

          4. Number.6

            I do a cup of 1% and a scoop of casein as a breakfast shake that takes me right thru from 6AM until noon. I figure even if there are some carbs in there, I’ve just limited my intake for 25% of the day to about 160 cal.

      2. BigT

        I see our metabolic system similar to a storage system. We have short-term storage – maybe the stomach, gut, bloodstream – and long-term storage – mostly fat, maybe some muscle. Our bodies use nutrients from short term storage when they are available, and only dig into long term storage when necessary. Different people might have different thresholds for when the body goes after long term storage and maybe different rates of moving things around, but our metabolisms are all constructed with the same parts.

        Think of it this way. If you ate all the food you normally do in a month on the 1st, your body would get rid of most of it and then you’d be hungry for the next 29 days and the body would consume itself, you’d get very skinny, and probably die in a few weeks. Instead, we space out the intake to match our needs. So timing of the inputs/outputs is one way to control weight gain or loss.

        When I was a kid of about 10 I remember a girl about 16 who was enormously fat, maybe 250 lbs and 5’1″. My Mother said: “Poor Agnes has a gland problem.” I told my mother that it was merely a balance between what goes in and what comes out, and that Agnes had a self-control problem. My Mom was silent, but several years later I heard her tell one of her friends that another fat so-and-so had a self-control problem.

        1. TripodKat

          Ha! You gotta love the brutal honesty of kids.

    5. FreeSociety

      Even ancient doctors recommended that their overweight patients always walk away from the dinner table still feeling a little bit hungry to shed the weight. Words like “moderation” and “temperance” are underused nowadays.

      1. compgrokker

        Words like “moderation” and “temperance” are underused nowadays.

        To put it mildly.

  25. Fatty Bolger

    Ohio attorney general sues 5 news media companies over covfefe epidemic

    It’s about damn time.

  26. Suthenboy

    Something to consider: These people might be freaking out right now but their mental state has not necessarily taken a turn for the worse. They are still the same people who deliberately deceived the American people into accepting the massive clusterfuck of Obamacare, cheered and clapped when a guy who has never produced anything of value in his life looked down his nose at the camera and said “You didn’t build that”, defended that same guy to the hilt when he gave our sworn enemies billions in untraceable cash, supported a sociopath who has never told the truth or accepted responsibility in her life,…hell I could go on all day with this list. The truth is that these people are what we used to call ‘The Lunatic Fringe’. None of what they are doing now is surprising, but goddamn, what a shitshow. It was inevitable that once they were out in the light people with serious, real-life concerns would reject them. I should just wave it off but it is a train wreck I cant look away from. I am getting a lot of satisfaction watching these loons get their comeuppance.

    To the pinkos: Keep screaming ‘Impeach!’ every time the wind messes up his hair, please. Keep it up. No, double down. Surely people who are looking for a way to pay their mortgage, fix their car and get little Timmy to bring his grades up will come around. Keep putting on masks and assaulting people so you can sweep the republicans out in 2018. Keep emulating ISIS in ‘performance art’ pieces. Keep advocating for abandoning math, physics and logic. Keep calling for the destruction of industry and employment. Keep calling for middle aged dudes in dresses to whip out their peckers next to Average Joe’s 8 year old daughter in public restrooms…in fact make that the center plank in your platform. Please, keep it up. Then crawl back under your rocks you crazy pinko sacks of shit.

    1. TripodKat

      You mad today, dude?

      1. Suthenboy

        I am mad everyday. Gotta keep up my reputation as ‘Angry white guy’.

        1. Raston Bot

          ‘white male oppressor’ not good enough for you?

    2. WTF

      I may just steal that and re-post it on derpbook to stir up some shit.

      1. AceDroman

        Contemplating the same thing

    3. FreeSociety

      *nods approvingly*

  27. Just a thought not a sermon

    Trump Can’t Stop Corporate America From Fighting Climate Change”

    Good. Then there’s absolutely no need for us to be party to the Paris Agreement.

    1. Drake

      The company I work for has “gone green” by buying more fuel-efficient cars for logistics couriers (some of them are hybrids).

      Funny thing is, when they talk about it in executive meetings, all the bosses really care about is that the company has saved $XX millions in fuels costs. Almost makes you think they would have bought the efficient cars even if climate change wasn’t going to kill us all.

      1. westernsloper

        Have they saved $XXX millions including the extra cost involved when buying a hybrid over a cheaper fuel efficient car?

        1. Drake

          They aren’t dumb – they calculate the miles and the type of driving and come up with an optimal vehicle – then negotiate for fleet purchases with manufacturers.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yes, an excellent argument for not being a party to the treaty. Whoops.

      1. american socialist

        Slate is shilling for giant corporations…interesting

      2. commodious spittoon

        “treaty”

  28. straffinrun

    The IMF sure sounds like a bunch of racists.

    Cheng Hoon Lim, the IMF’s mission chief for Canada, said there are a few policies that could help deter speculation in the housing market and alleviate concerns about rising debt burdens.

    “Among these measures, a cap on household debt to income or more stringent qualification criteria for household debt above a certain threshold will go directly to addressing household indebtedness,” she said.

  29. TripodKat

    I finished watching Master of None on Netflix the other day and there was a scene where Aziz’s crush visits the U.S. from Italy and gets very excited when she sees a pharmacy/drug store. She asks go in and gets giddy about the selection – 20 types of toothpaste! 15 types of diarrhea medicine (in 10 different colors!) Tiny Vaseline!

    She complains that in Italy all they have is “tiny drug stores where you can hardly find anything.” She wants to move to the U.S.

    Take that, Bernie Sanders.

    1. WTF

      Nobody needs 15 types of diarrhea medicine (in 10 different colors when people like Bernie Sanders have to make do with just three luxury homes.

      1. Wonder what’s up with his wife. Last I heard, she was in a world of shit and the Feds were closing in quickly on her.

        1. westernsloper

          Ya, funny how that is not in the news much isn’t it?

          1. Mike Schmidt

            Funny “ha-ha” or funny “FYTW?”

            /rhetorical question

          2. Somalian Road Corporation

            Those old Soviet sayings about figuring out what wasn’t being said on the news sure hit a lot closer to home nowadays.

        2. Fatty Bolger

          She’s busy working on her Costanza defense.

          1. WTF

            I doubt she’ll actually need a defense, she’s a member of the protected class.

        3. TripodKat

          Wait, what? What’s going on with Bernie’s wife??

          1. Fatty Bolger

            Don’t worry about it, she’s not a Republican or related to one. Move along, citizen, nothing to see here.

          2. She apparently falsified some incoming donor funding info on loan applications to keep the college open she was running. It ended up BKing even with the loan because, you know, none of the other money she claimed was coming in existed.
            She defrauded the bank, from what I can tell. Which is a felony.

          3. tarran

            She committed a fairly serious fraud

            Sanders stated in a 2010 loan application she had secured $2.6 million in promised donations to pay for the land purchase, which helped secure a $6.5 million loan from the People’s United Bank. Only $676,000 ever materialized over the next four years and the college defaulted on the loans, eventually going bankrupt in May 2016.

            Carol Moore, who served as the final president of the college until its closure, told TheDCNF the FBI contacted her as recently as a month ago regarding the allegations.

          4. TripodKat

            Oh wow, thanks for the link.

        4. commodious spittoon

          Heh. I thought you were talking about Aziz Ansari’s wife.

        5. FreeSociety

          Yeah she lied to financial institutions and potential investors about the levels of investments and endowments she had already received in order to bolster donations. Then of course the house of cards collapsed and all that money pissed away into the ether. Fraud is the only word for it.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Terrorism

    A noose was found Wednesday in a public gallery at the National Museum of African American History and Culture museum, the second such incident on Smithsonian grounds in less than a week, officials said.

    David J. Skorton, secretary of the Smithsonian Institution, said in an email announcement that he had to share “deeply disturbing news” that the rope was found in an public exhibition space Wednesday afternoon. It was in the Segregation Gallery on the second floor of the history galleries.

    “The Smithsonian family stands together in condemning this act of hatred and intolerance, especially repugnant in a museum that affirms and celebrates the American values of inclusion and diversity,” Skorton wrote.

    Gentlemen, start your panics.

    What would happen, I wonder, if we all just said, “Huh.An old scrap of rope. Throw it away.”

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      5 bucks says it was a proggie or black person that done did it.

      1. TripodKat

        I always bet this way too. I really think the odds are in our favor.

        1. WTF

          Yeah, these things are almost always false flags to gin up fake outrage.

    2. Suthenboy

      What is the point of false flags is no on is going to take them seriously?

      1. straffinrun

        No noose is good noose?

        1. JD

          Paging Swiss.

        2. Mike Schmidt

          When they find who did it I hope they let us know. I don’t want to be left hanging.

        3. Private Chipperbot

          Let’s tie up these loose ends.

          1. I’m knot even gonna engage in this sub thread.

          2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            And yet you’ve let yourself get roped into it anyway.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Video, which they should have, or it didn’t happen. Also, bullshit.

    4. Agent Cooper

      Yeah, the over indexing doesn’t help. If you just quietly took it down and toseed it, no one would really care and the perpetrator wouldn’t get that feeling of accomplishment.

    5. Lachowsky

      When I was in 7th or 8th grade, some of the guys I went to school with snuck up to the school one evening and ran a rebel flag up the flagpole at school as a prank. It was taken down and the kids got in a little trouble. This would be National news today.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      It was quite obvious from the start it was the same kinds of people

      1. straffinrun

        And like the feminists at the turn of the 20th century, the MRA’s actually have some legitimate gripes.

        1. PieInTheSKy

          meh i don’t 100% agree with that. There are always problems, but identity politics is not the solution. Individualism – the smallest minority being the person – and individual rights are the solution.

          1. straffinrun

            I’m not saying the way they are trying to solve the problem is correct. Just saying they are right when they talk about how men are getting screwed in the court system, not to mention the how they are being called rapists and and misogynists.

          2. FreeSociety

            You not caring for identity politics doesn’t mean identity politics won’t care about you. Democracy is a real cunt like that.

    2. TripodKat

      I get the stuff about wanting more rights in the courtroom (like in divorces and such). But some of those people are f-ing crazy.

      1. Chipwooder

        Whenever you hear some guy start prattling on about red pills, RUN!!!!!

        1. The Elite Elite

          That’s just a useful tool to get a point across, seeing as most people will have seen The Matrix.

    3. WTF

      I have no idea what that tweet is even about.

      1. The Elite Elite

        Yeah, looking at that I’m not sure what’s supposed to be so outrageous. If it’s about what I think it is (three guys decided to be white knights for a Muslim woman and two of the three get killed) I’m definitely not outraged by that. Their white knighting did get them killed. Why should I be shaking my head at “those crazy MRAs?”

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          White Knight is a bullshit term. That’s pretty much it.

          1. The Elite Elite

            Well, in this particular case I suppose it’s probably not the correct term. But I think there are certainly times were the term “White Knighting” applies quite well.

          2. WTF

            Why is White Knight a bullshit term? I found this on Urban Dictionary. What is the bullshit exactly? Just genuinely curious because I don’t see the controversy here.

          3. straffinrun

            White Knighting is almost always used in a derogatory way meaning “A person who comes to the rescue of a weaker person to virtue signal”. Helping out a person being physically attacked is not the correct way to use the term, IMHO.

          4. Fatty Bolger

            Totally agree that this isn’t a case of “white knighting.” In fact, one of the men killed wasn’t even involved until the other two had been stabbed.

          5. The Elite Elite

            Except, as far as I understand it, the woman was never physically attacked. All he did was yell at her.

        2. TripodKat

          I do find it kind of distasteful to say that “chivalry got them killed,” when they just did what a decent person should do to protect their neighbors, etc.

          But hey, that’s just me.

          1. WTF

            I think the salient point is would they have been as likely to intervene if it had been a man rather than a woman getting yelled at by some nutter. I don’t think we can really know the answer to that, so who knows if it was “white knighting” or not.

          2. TripodKat

            That’s a good point, but I really do think its natural for men to want to protect women more than other men. What are you, gay?

          3. The Elite Elite

            Again, unless there’s something I’m missing, all the guy was doing was yelling at the woman. Is that being an ass? Sure. But she was in no danger as far as they could tell. This was straight up White Knighting.

        3. commodious spittoon

          Thank God nobody was armed with a gun, someone might have gotten shot.

    4. The Elite Elite

      Are those the two guys that were killed by the Bernie-bro who was yelling at a Muslim woman?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Yes.

        1. The Elite Elite

          What exactly was so insane about that post, other than calling a hippie “the best of America?”

        2. WTF

          Okay, at least now I have a little context. Thanks.

      2. FreeSociety

        What you forget is that anyone who says mean things to or about Muslims is automatically a Trump supporter.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Just like the atheist nutter who shot his Muslim neighbors over a parking dispute. CHRISTIAN TERRORIST!

          1. FreeSociety

            A hate crime, in fact.

    5. Juice

      time’s?

  31. Suthenboy

    Dammit. I am out of here. I will be on the pressure washer for the rest of today. Y’all have fun.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    I finished watching Master of None on Netflix the other day and there was a scene where Aziz’s crush visits the U.S. from Italy and gets very excited when she sees a pharmacy/drug store. She asks go in and gets giddy about the selection – 20 types of toothpaste! 15 types of diarrhea medicine (in 10 different colors!) Tiny Vaseline!

    One of the truly eye-opening phenomena of my college days was when several of my friends volunteered to be local guides/escorts during a world skating competition at the Broadmoor, in Colorado Springs. They told me the Russian and eastern bloc competitors couldn’t give a shit less about natural beauty or culture. They all wanted to go to Kmart.

    They would wander the aisles, dumbstruck at the quantity and quality of consumer goods on display, and they were astonished any bozo with ready cash could enter the store and buy what they wanted.

    So, yeah. The Bernie Sanders of the world can shove it right up their asses.

    1. WTF

      I seem to recall an incident during the cold war when a Soviet delegation was taken to a supermarket for some kind of photo-op, and they were convinced it was all a fake Potemkin farce, because they couldn’t believe such abundance was available to the general public.

      1. The Last American Hero

        I always had a hard time with that story because you’d think they might have had one or two spies in this country they could have called and said, “Are American stores really well stocked with affordable goods?”

        1. Somalian Road Corporation

          Everyone lied to everyone (frequently even themselves) about everything in the Soviet Union.

          1. WTF

            Yes, and dispersing information that would show the superiority of the West was surely frowned upon. And hearing about something is very different from seeing it in person.

    2. TripodKat

      Yup, people here are so spoiled that they want to get rid of what they have and ruin it for everybody. Fucking idiots.

    3. Suthenboy

      Same thing when my Peruvian stepmother arrived here. She went into Krogers and stood there with her mouth agape for half an hour. It just wouldn’t sink in. She nearly had a stroke when I told her that Krogers was one of two dozen stores like it in an area serving less than a million people.

      She is also fascinated by trains. When I asked her why she said “That one train is carrying more than the GDP of my entire country.”

      Yet she is still a Hillary supporter. Talk about people voting against their own interest. Go figure.

      1. l0b0t

        My uncle married a Japanese lady when he was stationed over there in the USAF. Upon her (early 1960s) arrival to his mother’s South Georgia digs, she was absolutely astounded at the amount of foodstuffs at a US grocers and the amount of meat served with every meal.

  33. american socialist

    Thenation published an article saying ariana grande understands counter terrorism better than jim mattis

    Derp

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Link? Because I ain’t going to seek it. Not for them.

      1. american socialist

        Dont click on it, i didnt. The headline gives enough

    2. commodious spittoon

      She’s pleading, with tears in her eyes: if you fuck with her fans, she’ll whine about Islamophobia on TV.

  34. american socialist

    One positive quality about trump is he has managed to make some liberals reveal their mental illness

    Good thing these folks arent in charge for the time being

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      But they will be again. And they’re so unhinged right now that genuinely worries me.

      I mean, it worries me when Team Red is in power too. But Team Blue has completely lost all contact with reality.

      1. american socialist

        Yea and it isnt so much the bernie sanders wing (even though they arent good).

        But the technocratic corporate liberals appear to be totalitarians

        1. AlmightyJB

          It’s true, which is funny because they wouldn’t fare very well in a totalitarian state. There would be at least one has been b-lister without a head today if she were in a totalitarian state.

    1. AlmightyJB

      It was suggested that they punish her by raping her but they couldn’t find anyone to do it.

      1. WTF

        EVEN STEVE SMITH NOT RAPE THAT DRIED UP OLD BAG OF DESPERATION!

        1. compgrokker

          STEVE SMITH HAVE SOME STANDARDS.

  35. Count Potato

    “The lawsuit alleges that the drug companies violated the Ohio Consumer Sales Practices Act and created a “public nuisance by disseminating false and misleading statements about the risks and benefits of opioids.”

    Are there any examples of these false and misleading statements?

  36. FreeSociety

    Grandstanders gonna grandstand.

    Attorney General Mike DeWine accused the companies of leading patients to believe that opioids were not addictive, which the lawsuit says fueled the current opioid epidemic in Ohio.

    That’s exactly what Mike DeWine is. If you listen to talk radio in Ohio, you’re bound to hear sound bites of Mike DeWine damn near every week of him railing against the latest deadly poison/scourge/such and such trafficking ring and on and on. The guy is an insufferable little weasel. The fact that he’s damn near a midget off-camera doesn’t help me think of him in any other way than that of a over-sized feral rodent.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Yes. The are few people that I can’t stand more than Mike DeWine. He is a total dick.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      What kind of special idiocy does it take to not know opiates can get you hooked?

      1. Mike Schmidt

        And even if you are that stupid, isn’t the onus on the doctor prescribing it to inform you of the danger? I mean, that’s the whole damn point of needing a prescription, right?

        1. Mike Schmidt

          I just want to be clear that I don’t mean that the doctors should be sued. Just saying that under our health system, it seems like this DeWine idiot should be blaming doctors, not the med companies. But of course, logic obviously doesn’t mean shit to him.

      2. FreeSociety

        Now they’re blaming doctors for the legacy of the drug war and the result will be that when I crack a rib or if I have a surgery, they’ll proscribe me vaginal strength ibuprofen because they’re afraid I’ll sue them if they give me the good stuff, as is the case in Europe. Historically there have been many worse types of pain killers that were widely and commonly proscribed and yet this pain killer epidemic is only happening now? MUST BE TEH DOKTORZ FALT

        1. A few years ago I had a tooth go bad. The pain was so incredible. I had the root extracted and the doctor gave me a prescription of Vicodin.

          I went in for the second part of the procedure, thinking I wouldn’t need anymore pain medication afterwards. Whoops I forgot to bring a Vicodin with me. An hour later back at the office, once the local wears off, I’m pacing back in forth thinking I was going to pull my hair out. I can’t take it anymore. I head straight home, driving really, really fast. At one point I think I hit 85 in a 35 zone. That’s what extreme pain can do to you. It overwhelms the senses.

          I staggered into the house, popped a pill and then laid on the floor whimpering until the sweet medication washed away the pain. Anyone who wants someone to suffer for “their own good” deserves a steel-toed stompin’.

          1. FreeSociety

            In Europe, after an invasive surgery they send you home with extra strength Tylenol and accuse you of being a drugee if you ask for something that actually works. To get the real stuff, you pretty much need to be dismembered first. That’s the direction we’re headed.

          2. commodious spittoon

            Or find someone in a hoodie and trainers and slip them a twenty for a little baggie of heroin.

          3. Stinky Wizzleteats

            I went to an ear, nose, and throat specialist for a persistant cough due to reflux and went home with a Vicodin script. What a pleasant surprise that was, effective too.

          4. WTF

            These fucking politicians want people to suffer in unnecessary pain because someone, somewhere, might be getting high. I hope the assholes who push for this shit all suffer excruciating pain from ass cancer with nothing more than Tylenol.

          5. straffinrun

            You have a bigger heart than I. No Tylenol, either.

          6. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Pain meds are for cucks.

          7. WTF

            Well, you see, Tylenol is ineffective, so they will take high doses to try to get some relief, which will destroy their livers, too. Because these are the same fuckers that want acetominophen in opiods so that high doses will cause liver damage.

          8. FreeSociety

            That was my thought as well. If people are supposedly using heroin to supplant their pain killers, what do they think will happen when legitimate pain killing pharmaceuticals become harder to acquire? Either more heroin, or I take five shit tons of Tylenol so that I can at least think about something other than pain before I die of liver failure.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Thenation published an article saying ariana grande understands counter terrorism better than jim mattis

    They would.

  38. TripodKat

    Anyone watching the new season of House of Cards? I finished episode 2 last night.

    1. KibbledKristen

      Probably I’ll binge this weekend.

      Anyone know when Stranger Things is due?

      1. Chipwooder

        I enjoyed Stranger Things, but I get the feeling that one doesn’t lend itself to multiple seasons.

        1. WTF

          It has been renewed for a second season, but I don’t know when it is due. They will probably do it like “Fargo” where each season will have a similar theme, but be a separate story only loosely linked to the other season(s).

          1. TripodKat

            I heard through a friend that it will be a continuation of the first season’s story, which is a disappointment to me, because I think the first season had a brilliant ending. I give them a 75% chance of going downhill starting with season 2.

          2. The Last American Hero

            According to the SAG Awards speech, Season 2 is where they bravely resist Team Red.

          3. blighted_non_millenial

            Spoiler alert : the next couple of seasons of just about everything will feature our intrepid heroes bravely resisting.

          4. WTF

            So, they’re going to ruin a good show in the name of leftist social-signaling.
            God, I hope not.

          5. KibbledKristen

            I believe the filming is already in the can

          6. commodious spittoon

            That’s pretty explicit!

      2. Unreconstructed

        Late reply, but I believe it’s supposed to be out around Halloween. Bastards.

  39. straffinrun

    Tests Show 76% of Suspicious ‘Child Refugees’ in Sweden Are Actually Over 18

    *Linked already? I don’t know or care. Revs Harley*

    1. FreeSociety

      Unpossible. Doesn’t matter anyways. The “refugees” have an inalienable right to immigrate wherever they want and the Swedes have an obligation to lay down and die while they’re being replaced. They owe it to the world to become a hated minority in the land their ancestors passed on to them.

  40. Count Potato

    “The simple compact proposes that states pledge their electoral votes “to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.” This rather brilliantly obviates the need for an amendment dumping the Electoral College from the Constitution.”

    http://www.salon.com/2017/05/07/why-doesnt-anyone-know-we-are-incredibly-close-to-replacing-the-electoral-college-with-the-popular-vote/

    1. robc

      If they were pushing ME/NE style electoral college changes, I could get on board. But national popular vote is ripe for abuse.

      And, actually, the ME/NE style reduces the potential for abuse to 3 ECs in any one location (the district in question plus the statewide).

      1. robc

        It also fixes the problems that they are whining about, as candidates wouldn’t concentrate on certain states, because tipping a state is only a small gain, not a huge one.

        1. Dont overlook the influence this will reduce from certain states that get more subsidies than their neighbors.

          Hell, could you imagine getting above occurring in conjunction with a national primary? Goodbye farm subsidies. Goodbye state-specific cronyism.

          1. robc

            It also returns a lot of power to the states, as controlling state legislatures for gerrymandering purposes becomes even more important.

            Combine it with a repeal of the 17th amendment and the balance of power between fed and state shifts enormously.

          2. FreeSociety

            The 17th Amendment is undoubtedly one of the worst ideas put into practice since the founding. If I were trying to centralize the ostensibly federal government that’s exactly what I would do.

          3. robc

            16-18 is a horrible run.

      2. commodious spittoon

        I have no interest in retard enclaves on the coasts setting policy for the country based on demographic critical mass. Flyover voters may not be any smarter or virtuous, but they’re a brake on the progressive superstate.

        1. FreeSociety

          Which I think means they might just be more virtuous and/or smarter.

    2. Fine by me. Because if you don’t think this will change the way people campaign, which will dramatically alter voting patterns in solid ref or blue states, then you’re retarded enough to think this will result in a permanent Dem executive branch.

      1. FreeSociety

        Republicans in places like California might actually matter.

        1. WTF

          Yeah, they might actually turn out to vote in a national election. Same for New York, Illinois, and New Jersey.

          1. FreeSociety

            I’m not sure the Democrats are aware of how many conservatives anti-leftists of all stripes, there truly are in this country.

          2. commodious spittoon

            You mean FASCIST NAZIS?

          3. FreeSociety

            Millions of them.

          4. The Zenome Project

            It always starts with being anti-leftist; knowing evil when you see it, even if you don’t understand it, gets you on the right track to political sanity.

          5. straffinrun

            Yep. Just watched some footage from Evergreen college. How any sane person would voluntarily side with that student body is beyond me. It’s a cult.

          6. FreeSociety

            Link? I have yet to fill my disgust-at-the-left quota for the day.

          7. straffinrun

            They’re all over YouTube. Not new, but creepy.

          8. The Last American Hero

            I sort of side with them from the perspective that the Pinko Profs that have been fostering this bullshit for decades are finally getting what they asked for.

    3. Q Continuum

      Watch voter fraud explode if this happens. In Dem enclaves like LA, Chicago, Detroit and NYC the infrastructure is already there, but they gain little from continuing to run up the score. Put this in place and watch the margins of victory in Philadelphia go from “unlikely” to “Pol Pot”.

      1. The Zenome Project

        I used to be anti-both parties, but the GOP legislature’s handling of the NC budget and this recent election, where the wrongthinkers gave a giant middle finger to the elitists changed things for me; although there is some authoritarian tendencies on the right and although the federal GOP is too pro-big government, it is very small-scale relative to the left.

      2. The Zenome Project

        One question stemming from that, as well: why do state GOP legislatures generally have more ability to actually be fiscally conservative than at the national level?

        1. kbolino

          Two reasons:

          1. Programs like Social Security and Medicare (not so much Medicaid), not to mention the military, are broadly popular with GOP voters. Those are all Federal programs/spending, which means they are only political issues for national politicians. State GOP legislators have more freedom to be fiscally conservative, since their voters are less likely to oppose them cutting state programs and funding.

          2. Despite the wails on the left about Republican gerrymandering, because of the much larger district sizes vs. state districts, and the requirements imposed by the courts on how the districts can be drawn, there are a lot of Congressional districts currently held by Republicans that were won only barely. If a small swing in voter opinion or turnout could be the difference between holding your seat and losing it, it’s hard to take more “controversial” positions.

          Although, as noted by many commenters on the other site, Republicans have never lost seats (on net, anyway) from a government “shutdown”. That is the “common wisdom” (read: scare-mongering by the MSM and certain not-so-outre publications) but doesn’t seem to have any evidence behind it (which is not to say that an individual Republican in a very competitive district won’t lose his seat, only that it doesn’t hurt the GOP’s standing in Congress overall).

          1. compgrokker

            Also, most states either have a constitutional clause or some sort of statute requiring some form of balanced budget. It’s not as strict as what most people propose for a federal balanced budget amendment, but it works well enough. In the case of NC specifically, there’s a balanced budget requirement in the state constitution, the budget is determined biennially, and reviewed and tweaked annually.

            http://www.ncsl.org/research/fiscal-policy/state-balanced-budget-requirements.aspx

    4. Agent Cooper

      So … why have an EC with this proposal? It de facto abolishes it.

      1. The Zenome Project

        I’m sure that the majority of the votes in favor of this proposal are in left-leaning legislatures. I don’t think that we’re in any danger of this passing, despite Salon’s wishful thinking.

      2. kbolino

        That’s the idea. They want to get rid of the EC but know they don’t have the votes for amending the Constitution.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Just to piss you off.

    Hot off the tyrannical dipshits beat-

    The board of the homeowners association voted to require all residents in the Woodmore golf community to buy metal mailboxes, monogrammed with the letter “W” and mounted on a decorative post.

    The $500 mailbox mandate angered Strong and others in the community, launching him into a seven-year fight that finally ended this month when a Prince George’s County judge signed, sealed and delivered a ruling that the board of the Pleasant Prospect Home Owners’ Association overstepped its bounds with its postal pronouncements.

    It’s a victory that cost Strong $33,000 in legal fees — roughly the price of 66 of the new bronze-colored mailboxes.

    First they came for the mailboxes…

    1. WTF

      What, no shrubberies?

    2. l0b0t

      For a $33K investment in time, tools, and materials could he have perhaps gone the other direction and started manufacturing mailboxes to spec in his garage? Sell 67 of them and your in the black!

    3. robc

      It would be awesome if he got a judgement against the HOA requiring them to pay his legal fees.

      And then the whole neighborhood would get to chip in.

      I am sure he would be beloved then.

      But he probably thinks it is money well spent.

    4. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Kinda expensive. Maybe just carve a decorative post shaped like a dick or something.

    5. robc

      Utilitarians don’t consider this a victory.

    6. Mike Schmidt

      I’ve never understood HOA’s. What is the upside? Protecting property values I suppose?

      1. We have an HOA that does very little except negotiate a sweet ass deal on trash removal.
        We pay roughly $30 a month for our HOA…which also covers our trash service, which runs twice a week.
        Most of them suck, but ours is great.

      2. robc

        Local governments require them for new neighborhoods in order to push certain services down to the neighborhood level (snow removal and even road maintenance in some places).

        1. Mike Schmidt

          Huh. Must only be a thing in more populous areas? I’ve never heard of any being in my neck of the woods. (North Dakota)

      3. Agent Cooper

        Ours has put in a park with a big playground, swings a basketball court and a soccer field with goals.

        And the trash service thing Sloop mentions.

        We all have the same mailboxes, too, but it came with the house and I don’t really care that much about mailbox diversity.

        1. Mike Schmidt

          Racist!

      4. Suthenboy

        “Protecting property values I suppose?”

        Except they dont. They are opportunities for petty tyrants who cant get elected to the police jury or city council to fuck with you and take your money.

        1. Yeah, they’re a great case study in how literally any structural power will attract the kind of people who want to abuse it. They’re like government in miniature. Even the thing about “protecting property values” which is the typical selling point winds up being a sort of broad-stroke justification for specific petty (and not so petty) tyrannies.

      5. The Last American Hero

        Ours is only about $12/month. They pay some likely illegal aliens to maintain the entryway to the neighborhood and only get grouchy if someone tries to paint their house neon pink. Technically speaking, they actually have a lot of power to cause misery – they just don’t use it.

      6. R C Dean

        Most of them carry some infrastructure, from the roadzzz to common areas with pools, tennis courts, etc. And they may provide some services.

        And they may have annoying aholes who love to play the petty tyrant. My theory is that the smaller the HOA, the less likely it is to cause trouble.

        1. FreeSociety

          Like tax funded government.

        2. I refuse to live in a place with an HoA, but several of my friends and family do. They’ve come to the conclusion that a.) the bigger the area covered, and b.) the older the HoA, the less intrusive they tend to be. I think in the case of the former it’s difficult to effectively busybody that much territory and that many people, plus the odds are a little better that you’ll wind up with decent people in the thing. In the case of the latter, a lot of the fights have already been fought and most of the control freaks have gotten older and lost their interest, so now it’s basically about repair, maintenance, and trying to keep home values from going down the crapper in an aging development.

    7. FreeSociety

      This teen will be voting in the next couple years.

    8. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      HOA’s are a horrible evil and a perversion of the common law of both property and contract. Unsurprisingly, we can thank some vintage 1960s decision out of New York for their legal footing.

  42. Count Potato

    “Administrators at a Long Island high school forced a student to sign a contract barring her from changing her gender identity because she had switched it twice already, sources told The Post.”

    http://nypost.com/2017/05/31/school-made-me-sign-contract-i-wouldnt-change-gender-identity-again-teen/

    1. AlmightyJB

      Monsters!

    2. Gustave Lytton

      That sounds about right for a teenager.

    3. Mike Schmidt

      Now a gay female again with her original name, the student said she is likely to remain a woman for the foreseeable future.

      “I just came to the realization that gender is not a big deal either way,” she said. “People can think of me however they want. It’s not important.

      Wait, whut? She/he’s a shitlord! That sort of thinking is not allowed!

      1. KibbledKristen

        “People can think of me however they want. It’s not important.”

        Apparently it is to xer, enough to shove it in people’s faces every chance xe gets. Like, just be you. Stop trying to make other people label you and just fuckin’ be, dude. No reason to shout “I’M A CHICK! NO, WAIT! I’M A DUDE” every time you need attention.

        1. Q Continuum

          This flexi-gender shit must be a boon to self-preoccupied attention-starved teens everywhere. Tired of all the hot guys paying attention to cheerleaders instead of you? Change your gender and throw a hissy fit about you’re oppressed! That’ll get everyone focused on you again!

          1. KibbledKristen

            I never felt the desire to announce to the world anything about myself. If I figure out something new about myself, I generally just say to myself “Huh. OK.” and move on. I don’t need to barf out every feeling and emotion that comes into my brain. Apparently, the youngsters these days are way too into “sharing” every little fucking thought that pops into their heads.

          2. Q Continuum

            That’s because feelz are more important than anything.

          3. Private Chipperbot

            Ugh. My 14 year old told his sorta girlfriend to cool the fuck down after she got mad at him for not answering texts right away. Mind you, we’re on a family trip over Mem Day weekend, in the middle of nowhere, with spotty cell coverage. He explains this. She still gets angry. He came up to me and said, no way in hell is this working out. He told her same. She posted a PhD length ‘woe is me’ in about 15 instagram posts. I patted him on the back and gave him a drink of beer.

          4. SugarFree

            Watch Fatal Attraction* with him and explain that dodging a bullet can be the best feeling in the world.

            *Esp. if you have a pet rabbit.

          5. Tulip

            I’m with Kristen. I don’t even have bumper stickers (or a facebook or linked in account.)

          6. KibbledKristen

            Well, shit – I have Facederps so I can post pics of my dog and my occasional vacation. But sharing every little emotional hiccup that comes into my brain? Fuckin-a. Kids these days gotta quit taking themselves so seriously.

          7. TripodKat

            There’s definitely an “oversharing” problem. My coworker and I were discussing why we both decided to delete our social media accounts and he said that he thinks we might look back on this decade as the “oversharing” or “social media” decade. I’m not so sure, but I would like it to be a fad that would eventually die down.

            I think its here to stay since people are addicted to the dopamine hit of seeing your posts get “liked.” We parody it all the time, but few people actually just delete their fucking accounts and move the fuck on.

          8. Number.6

            I think there’s a big difference between, say, me sitting here and hitting F5 to see if anyone’s responded to my crappy punning with an elegant bon mot, and posting an opportunistic selfie of me with a 20oz Heineken can down my pants, as I lean on some other dude’s Harley in Westport over the weekend.

            Of course we like to be liked. That’s kinda natural to a point, and yes, there’s a bit of elitism there saying it’s OK to be appreciated among my intellectual peers for my brains, but not my ersatzboner, but social media is simply ebola and it needs a paddlin’.

        2. Amen, sister!

      2. Agent Cooper

        “People can think of me however they want. It’s not important.”

        Welcome to the real world, kid.

        1. Suthenboy

          Yeah, that was true before he…uh..she? came to that conclusion. You might be special to your parents but to the rest of the world you are just another swinging dick/mouth to feed. Get used to it.

      3. R C Dean

        Now a gay female again

        So when it was identifying as a male, was it a gay male, or a straight one?

        “I just came to the realization that gender is not a big deal either way”

        So she’s totes chill with not making a big announcement about it every so often?

        1. KibbledKristen

          That’s what I was getting at – it’s like people say they hate drama, yet cause drama and conflict wherever they go. I’m all like “Nope. You love drama. You thrive on it. You’re miserable unless there’s massive amounts of useless conflict in your life.”

    4. F. Stupidity Jr.

      We should enable any kids that want to transition to their preferred gender ASAP because kids know exactly what they want for themselves.

      1. WTF

        Teenagers looking for attention certainly do.

    5. Tulip

      One the other hand – this doesn’t seem that onerous for the school, so why do they care? Control? I think if we treated this as no big deal, kids who are doing it for attention will get over it.

      1. R C Dean

        One the other hand – this doesn’t seem that onerous for the school, so why do they care?

        I’m sure its at least a minor PITA for administration – reporting, recordkeeping, who knows what else?

  43. Raston Bot

    PSA: summer of gun rebates continues

    Walther now offering $100 rebates on PPQ and PPS models. http://www.waltherarms.com/rebate100/

    S&W $75 rebate was first, then DPMS, then Remington offering $100 back on 1895 Marlins… which might still be shit after they moved the manufacturing equipment in 2011 and discovered there were no designs for their firearms (WTF!!) and had to create them from scratch.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      How are the Marlins doing now, does anyone know? I’ve always wanted a cowboy type rifle but I don’t want to buy junk.

      1. Ken Shultz

        I read that Marlin’s whole manufacturing system was retooled and they’re vastly superior to what they were several years ago. The new line was initially just on the .44 chambering, but that was supposed to be expanding.

        But why not get a Henry?

        I like the all weather models, but this one’s in .357/38 and has the short barrel.

        https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/henry-big-boy-steel/

        I love lever action rifles. I love everything about ’em. I even like that they don’t look black and scary when you run into hikers.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Thanks for the info. The Henrys are a bit spendy aren’t they? I’m just a backyard shooter/nonserious enthusiast and want to get a lever action in 30-30 for kicks and giggles so I’m going to go cheap, not Rossi cheap though.

          1. Ken Shultz

            I think you’ll find Henry’s for around $700.

            I was just looking oneline.

            The brand new Marlins are about that, too.

            I think used Henry’s are probably more expensive than a used Marlin, but if you get a used Marlin, I’d definitely make sure it’s one from after the retooling process.

            Let me see if I can dig up that article . . . here it is!

            http://www.gunsandammo.com/reviews/marlin-1894-review/

            Going by that article, I’d be suspicious of any Marlin chambered in .44 before 2015 and any Marlin chambered in .357/38 or .45 cowboy before 2016.

            I don’t think people are quick to sell their excellent working lever action rifles. It’s not like trading in last year’s hot 9mm carry gun. 1894s that work well have been fun and awesome since . . . 1894. They aren’t going out of style. Why sell it if there’s nothing wrong with it?

          2. Mike Schmidt

            I was just on Marlin’s site…looks like they quit making the .357/.38. That sucks.

          3. MikeS

            Thanks Suthen. I got the revolver half of my gun duo, and the rifle half has been on hold while saving up so I haven’t done much serious searching yet. I think it’s time I start looking more.

            Your ’94 comments below got me looking at those. Found a review for a ’94 Ranger that sounded pretty good. I think I might like the smaller size of the Ranger.

          4. Suthenboy

            Then get the real thing. Look around in pawn shops for Winchester 94’s. No matter how beat up they are they work like new. The outside may be rusty and dinged up but the insides never wear out. Plus they are better balanced and more accurate. You can find them from $350 to $600 bucks.

            /’94 collector

          5. Ken Shultz

            Pre-’64

            Some of the ones made in the ’70s could be awful–like when Harley was owned by AMF, right?

          6. Suthenboy

            Actually no, Ken. Cosmetically they are inferior and the stamped parts look bad to someone who loves machined parts but the truth is they function just as well. I have a 32 Win Spl (30-30 brass necked up to .32 caliber) that has the sintered receiver and the brown color instead of the deep blue, stamped parts. Made at the height of the ‘lets make this cheaper’ period. It isnt as attractive as the others but functionally it is identical.

            A lot of fans got mad at Winchester when they did that (new CEO looking to cut costs) and sales dropped off precipitously. That is where that reputation comes from, but it isnt exactly true. As it should be in a free market Winchester went back to machined parts and deep bluing. I have a 1976 manufacture 30-30 and another ’76 in .375 Win that are deep blue and semi-fancy walnut that are as beautiful as any gun made. It’s not just the pre-64’s that are desirable. If you are just looking for a shooter you can get one of the sintered receiver rifles for a song these days. If you want an investment a pre-64/post-76 (pre-safety) are fine.

          7. Number.6

            One thing you shouldn’t discount is that a lever action in 38 is (relatively) cheap to shoot whereas 30-30 is gonna get more expensive as time goes on.

            If you’re an unrepentant bottom-feeder who isn’t in a hurry, there are plenty of places that have used Henrys to sell.

          8. Mike Schmidt

            The relative inexpensiveness of .38 rounds is one reason why I went that route. The other being that I can have a revolver and a rifle chambered in the same round.

        2. Raston Bot

          are they all front-loading tube mags?

      2. Q Continuum

        Marlins = great. I have a model 1895 in .45-70 and I absolutely love that gun. Never had a single problem with it, it’s light, accurate and lots of fun to shoot. Strongly recommend.

        1. Suthenboy

          *jealous*

          That’s on my list.

    2. Count Potato

      Trump isn’t as good a gun salesman as Obama.

      1. Ken Shultz

        Yeah, you need somebody to threaten to take them away, and Trump just isn’t scary that way.

    3. DOOMco

      Im leaning to the ppq. Sounds like thatll do it.

      1. Raston Bot

        trigger is butter.

  44. Pope Jimbo

    Eat your heart out! Minnesota is 1/3 of the way to Utopia.

    Gov. Mumbles just line item vetoed the funds for running the legislature.

    The DFL governor on Tuesday vetoed the Legislature’s operating budget in an effort to force Republican legislative leaders to reopen disputes over taxes, education policy and immigration. That followed a decision by Republicans just days earlier to approve a bill that would have terminated funds for Dayton’s Department of Revenue had the governor not signed off on their tax cuts.

    So as it stands now, the legislators and their staff are going to be working for free.

    It seems like this is a ploy so our idiot gov can reopen agreements that were supposedly settled.

    Dayton wants Republican lawmakers to come back to the bargaining table. His only interest, he said Wednesday, is the future of Minnesota. He wants Republicans to scale back tax cuts, especially on wealthy estates, business property and smokers; repeal a new law blocking driver’s licenses for undocumented immigrants, and change another new law that makes changes to Minnesota’s system of teacher licensure.

    1. Q Continuum

      “Undocumented immigrants” – I know that this has now entered common parlance and I hate it almost as much as I hate “people of color”. Just shows how correct Orwell was that one of the biggest priorities of totalitarians is to control language and alter people’s thought patterns thereof. Political correctness is thought tyranny.

    2. robc

      If the GOP says okay, I wonder how long it will be before the Dem members of the legislature throw a fit?

      1. Gadfly

        Yeah, that’ll be an interesting game of chicken, as can’t the Rs just get a few Ds to join them in overriding a veto?

    3. Agent Cooper

      repeal a new law blocking driver’s licenses for undocumented immigrants

      What is citizenry?

      1. FreeSociety

        I think it’s an Old Latin term that means “everyone in the world is entitled to your shit”.

  45. Pope Jimbo

    Since I see him commenting on here today, I can eliminate this guy as Tundra’s secret Maple Grove identity.

  46. Q Continuum

    I have come to the opinion that Kristy Titus may just be the sexiest woman on Earth.

    https://www.instagram.com/kristytitus/?hl=en

    1. Count Potato

      She wears a ton of make-up to go hunting?

    2. Mike Schmidt

      She’d be hotter if she didn’t use her camp shovel to apply the war paint

      1. AlmightyJB

        I would say 1 and 6 are my favs.

        1. Q Continuum

          Girl on the right in number 30 FTW.

          1. AlmightyJB

            She’s gorgeous.

      2. I have a hard time lookin’ at the rest of the chick when I see that she’s got her booger-picker on the boom-switch. It’s distracting as shit.

    3. Raston Bot

      her parents raised her right.

  47. F. Stupidity Jr.

    Forget Russia, we’ve got important shit to worry about

    Here’s where a little history may help sharpen the picture. Last year, during the election campaign, several academic researchers tracked the use of Twitter bots supporting either Trump and his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton. They reported that the bots supporting Trump massively outperformed the bots supporting Clinton, by a margin of 5-to-1 in the final days before the vote.

    Among accounts that researchers had identified as “highly automated” — meaning likely bots — 81.9 percent carried at least some messaging supporting Trump, according to a November paper written by Woolly and two colleagues, Bence Kollyani of Corvinus University and Philip N. Howard of Oxford.

    It’s that history, in part, that makes Woolley suspicious that Trump’s surge may benefit from aggressive bot development. “There’s a legacy of this.”

    Wm…could you guys maybe train your guns on, oh, I don’t know, voter fraud instead??

    1. tarran

      Did you hear?!?

      Some of the people in political ads aren’t really single mothers or elderly people on medicaid, but actors pretending !!!!!!!!!

      1. Q Continuum

        You mean Paul Ryan didn’t really push granny off a cliff?

      2. F. Stupidity Jr.

        *collapses on fainting couch, fans self*

    2. commodious spittoon

      So… how many actual, on-the-ground Michigan voters did those Twitter bots convince to change their votes?

      1. commodious spittoon

        *deniy they inhabit a bubble*

        *insist that Twitter is a causal force in voter behavior*

  48. Hans Landa

    How adorable, Megyn Kelly is cosplaying as a reporter. All she needs it the fedora with “press” card.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Would

  49. tarran

    4 Days ago, the wife brought home an adorable little puppy, it’s like having a newborn baby:

    Pro: The puppy grows into adulthood faster.

    Con: The puppy doesn’t wear a diaper.

    Pro: The puppy doesn’t need to be fed as frequently.

    Con: The puppy is mobile and can get into things

    Pro: The puppy is on solid food

    Con: The puppy likes shredding things with sharp needlepoint teeth.

    Pro: The puppy definitely will be trained to relieve herself outdoors by the time the summer ends.

    Con: The puppy was born on a farm, and wakes up at 5AM needing that first walk (a very important part of that training).

    The bags under my eyes are pretty pronounced.

    1. Q Continuum

      The property destruction with dogs is all front-end-loaded. After a year, they aren’t wrecking your house anymore; but wait 16 years then your kid crashes your Jeep while wasted on Purple Drank and you have to pay the legal fees to boot.

      1. Agent Cooper

        A) Don’t have kids.
        B) Teach your dog to drive.

        Solved!

        1. Q Continuum

          C) Profit!

      2. I wish you’d tell my dogs that. At six years old each, we have to put up 4′ baby gates to keep them out of the trash and away from the litter box. The window sills are all gouged from dog claws. We go through a curtain rod a week if we forget to open the curtains of the front windows before we leave. Oh, and for bonus points they’re both rescues with separation anxiety and will go on a inside-pooping, counter-surfing, dish/vase breaking rampage if I leave the house while my wife is away for business or happens to leave early.

    2. FreeSociety

      I had my border collie housebroken in two weeks as a puppy. She chewed one shoe before after which I yelled at her and she never did it again. Note: I’ve never once hit my dog. Today, I walk her off leash, got her certified as a service animal by some fraudulent online service and all the restaurants and bars in town accept the service animal card I show them and the dog goes with me everywhere and has even become a local celebrity. Cons: a lot of people in town want to steal my dog.

      The moral of the story is that border collie’s, particularly if you get the pick of the litter, are the best god damn dogs on earth.

      1. F. Stupidity Jr.

        Border collies are awesome. My parents have one who is a friend to all mankind.

        1. FreeSociety

          Mine is especially affectionate and protective towards my kids despite them stealing her thunder after they were born. She really is a noble creature.

        2. AlmightyJB

          Yeah, we had one growing up. Greatest dog ever.

    3. Ken Shultz

      Pro: The puppy will still think you’re the greatest thing on earth when it grows up.

      I saw somebody once answer a question about ‘what drives you’ with: “I want to be as awesome as my dog thinks I am”.

      Pro: The puppy will always be genuinely thrilled to see you every time you come home.

      Pro: The puppy can be trained to growl at your significant other’s sister.

    4. AlmightyJB

      To me, the biggest drawback of having a dog was having to have it taken care of when you leave town. With a cat. Fill up a couple litter boxes, make sure it has plenty of food and water and it’s good for a week. I do like dogs better though. Just walk it regularly, and no you don’t have to let it crap whenever and wherever it wants. You walk the dog, the dog shouldn’t be walking you. Keep on very short leash starting out and give a nice quick tug if it starts to wander.

      1. We’re about to go on a lengthy vacation. We’ve got two dogs and two cats, and to avoid the dogs completely destroying the interior of the house (they’ve chewed through banisters, for instance) we’re just bringing them with us. The cats, on the other hand, will pretty much do their own thing and be content if we strategically place bowls of food and water so they don’t just binge on the first day.

  50. Mike Schmidt

    I know this will shock the hell out of all of you, but:

    Kathy Griffin Once Called Out Elizabeth Hasselbeck For Disrespecting Obama

    She showed a clip of President Obama’s appearance on “The View” when Hasselbeck asked him how his stance on gay marriage differed from Mitt Romney.

    “Take it down a notch, bitch,” she said, before praising Obama for being “patient” with Hasselbeck.

    “He’s a gentlemanly guy,” Griffin said of Obama, “but I’ll go ahead and say it: she’s a cunt.”

    1. KibbledKristen

      Yep, asking genuine questions about prominent issues is “disrespect”. Just fucking OBEY, already! Sheesh!

      1. FreeSociety

        Whereas how her ilk are behaving towards this president or anyone who ever failed to condemn him sufficiently…

        It’s hard not to focus on the rank hypocrisy of the leftists and lose sight of the bigger picture. But I persist.

        1. Count Potato

          Free persisted.

    2. Private Chipperbot

      Asking a legit question requires notches to be lowered?

    3. Count Potato

      “Remember That Time Kathy Griffin Blamed The Gabby Giffords Shooting On A Sarah Palin Map?”

      https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/05/kathy-griffin-giffords/

      Also, Trump supported gay marriage way before Obama. I don’t think Hillary supported it until she was no longer Secretary of State.

      1. KibbledKristen

        She should talk to Jodie Foster about what it’s like to be a celeb who barfs out political opinions.

  51. commodious spittoon

    DWS blames House authorities for not preventing her use of Dropbox, “question[s] their commitment to cybersecurity.”

    “I am more than happy to admit that I use Dropbox. I have used it for years and years and years. It is not blocked. I am fully able to use it,” she said.

    “So there is a vulnerability in our network in spite of the fact that you say that you’ve taken steps to address it,” she continued. “And there is not enough of a — of a policy that — that applies across the board. And you need to make sure that you tighten up your rules and policies so that you can really take and assure us that you take seriously protecting our network.”

    This is, one might recall, the representative whose aide was among several spying on Congressmen for Pakistan. Diversity hires!

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      DWS probably actually believes this horseshit.

      1. commodious spittoon

        I’d like to think she’s desperate enough to attack the people on whose expertise the investigation is relying, but in reality she’s probably just that dumb.

    2. Tonio

      She is both stupid and venal, which is the cause of both her previous success and her likely downfall. Threatening the Capitol Police has already raised suspicion about what she was trying to cover up.

      The reason that Dropbox wasn’t prohibited or blocked is that people like her prevented implementation of industry standard IT security policies.

    3. Gilmore

      She’s muddying the distinction between “being proscribed (by force of law) from doing something” and “being actively prevented (by actual force) from doing something”

      the vast majority of laws and regulation have no ‘preventative’ capacity. A killer might as well blame police for failing in their obligation to ‘prevent’ murders. That’s not how law words, much less how regulations work.

      She seems to also try using “ignorance of the rules” as a defense as well (“aint nobody told *me!*”). She’s a cornucopia of fallacies.

      Of course the only penalty anyone in politics is concerned with are *political* costs. So as long as the NYT and WaPo etc spin this the right way (or better, just bury it), her bullshit will work.

      1. Tonio

        Well-said, Gilmore.

  52. commodious spittoon

    Lena Dunham suggests redefining PC, reaffirms why it’s called PC. Also reaffirms that she she is a third-rate public intellectual.

    Lena Dunham
    (@lenadunham)

    Let’s say PC no longer means political correctness–it’s Powerful Consideration. Proactive Compassion. Cuz that’s what we’re all trying for.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Although we could perhaps preempt her Newspeak gambit and go with something like Progressive Cunt.

      1. Sour Kraut

        Progressive Cult

    2. kbolino

      I wonder how powerfully Lena has considered Trump voters or how proactively she’s been compassionate towards people who differ in opinion from her?

      Oh, that’s right, it’s not about consideration or compassion, it’s about foisting identity politics in novel vehicles.

    3. commodious spittoon

      It also occurs to me that Dunham is who Chelsea Clinton aspires to be: punching the right buttons for her base, but too trite, halfhearted, and unclever to rile up apathetic voters.

    4. straffinrun

      Leopld Stotch‏ @osully70 3月27日
      @lenadunhamさん
      Was it “Proactive Compassion” when you diddled your baby sister?

      Zing.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Damn, that was brutal.

      2. KibbledKristen

        Awwww yeah. I fail to see why she gets a pass for her behavior.

    5. Stinky Wizzleteats

      “Proactive Compassion”

      Fuck you lardass!

  53. AlmightyJB

    Community organizing pretty lucrative career

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40114817

    1. The Other Kevin

      I will never forget Michelle Obama making something like 7 figures “working” at a non-profit hospital in Chicago, while spending tons of time on the campaign trail with her husband. Because plenty of normal, non-connected people make 7 figures at a job where they only show up 50% of the time. This is the same way I view Chelsea Clinton, btw.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Chelsea really struggles to care about money, you know. And that makes her more virtuous than you plebs.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Plus she’s embarrassed to say how many books she has because she is so much smarter than us. I’m sure the selection is very diverse as well.

      2. AlmightyJB

        It’s pretty mind blowing how the left can hate “the rich” while they worship rich people.

  54. AlmightyJB

    Didn’t realize nuclear power going bye bye.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40099324

    1. Tonio

      Except that Dominion just got licensed to adf a third reactor to its North Anna power station. Suck it, watermelons.

      NIMBYs and emvironuts have been fighting fossil fuel pipelines here, so now they are getting this instead.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Interesting. It’s really the only current viable option to fossil fuels as far as delivering energy needs. Cost viability is a different story.

    2. commodious spittoon

      I’ve been hearing about SMRs for years, and that strikes me as a more realistic model than massive region-powering plants.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Are there any DIY plans out there:)

      2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        Which reminds me, I need to post the rest of my article…. and for what it’s worth the Navy has been building SMRs since the 60s.

        1. commodious spittoon

          You should. I know next to nothing about it, but I love the idea.

          1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            Indeed, they’re a great idea. And better than large plants in certain applications, particularly those where you need thermal energy. I mention it simply because the loudest criticism is that “SMRs are too hard to build and deploy,” which is of course nonsense.

  55. Juvenile Bluster

    How about a Thursday morning nutpunch?

    Albuquerque Police officer “accidentally” shoots man in back. Citizen oversight board recommends 11 day suspension.

    Police chief: “LOL Nope, no punishment. Give him a break, it’s the first time he’s “accidentally” shot someone in the back!”. His decision can’t be appealed.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Seems like there are a lot of messed up cop stories out of NM

      1. F. Stupidity Jr.

        Well, they’re up to their ass in trying to stop the Blue Meth trade.

    2. Lachowsky

      At least it was just incompetance and not malice this time. Makes no difference to the guy with a bullet in his back.

    3. commodious spittoon

      Should have done the city a favor and accidentally popped himself like the wunderkind scientist in World War Z.

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      he has not shown a pattern of problems with his gun in the past.

      *stiffles laughter*

      Don’t worry, it happens to everyone at some point.

    5. Raston Bot

      they misspelled “negligent”

    6. R C Dean

      So in ABQ there’s a “one free shooting” rule?

      Is it available to the serfs, or only the King’s Men?

    7. R C Dean

      His decision can’t be appealed.

      Its also not binding on the prosecutors. Especially the federal ones, who could take this up as a civil rights violation.

      Yeah, like that’s gonna happen.

  56. The Late P Brooks

    It’s pretty mind blowing how the left can hate “the rich” while they worship rich people.

    Some people do icky things to earn their money. Like creating economic wealth, instead of destroying it.

  57. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of “les riches plus nobles”, what was that nincompoop Steyer up to, the other day?

    1. Number.6

      Breathing.