Mr. X was the only art teacher for our entire high school. He was an older guy approaching retirement age, and his life had not been a very happy one if his grizzled demeanor was any indication. His dress style was pretty remarkable, however: boots, boot cut Levi’s, western shirts, bolo ties and a coiffure reminiscent of a later era Johnny Cash on a week-long bender. The art curriculum for my high school career consisted of Art I, Art II, Art III and Art IV. Entering Art II my sophomore year, I quickly discovered I had become ensnared in a scholastic Groundhog Day. There was no advancement, as each year followed the exact same syllabus as the last. Some students would actually save their old projects that had already been graded to turn in subsequent years, thus sparing themselves further hassle. He either had no clue this was going on or simply didn’t care. During his slideshows, some of us would smoke cigarettes in the back of the classroom. On the occasion that he would actually notice, he’s stop the presentation and go into a spit flecked fit of yelling about how he was going to make sure that whoever was doing it would end up in a heap of trouble and that “neither the President nor the Pope” would be able to help us out of the conundrum. After a few minutes of this and his eyes darting around the room he would peter out and resume the presentation. He never found who was smoking because by then we’d have finished our cigarettes. I imagine that his salary was probably triple that of a younger, more engaged and more effective teacher might have been at the time.
Mr. Y was generally a nice guy, but – I don’t know how to put this politely – he was a complete fucking dork. He taught Earth Science which was a class geared toward kids that couldn’t cut the more advanced science and biology courses – essentially all of the ‘tards and reprobates. I ended up in his class my sophomore year after having royally bombed Biology due to boredom. Mr. Y was that jovial doofus that just could not keep a class under control under any circumstance, though being a pudgy oaf that couldn’t command an authoritative presence to anyone outside of a senior citizens’ casino bus wasn’t the root of his problem. He actually seemed to revel in the mischief of his rowdy students just as much as they did. Whenever someone would throw something across the room, he’d chuckle and halfheartedly tell them to stop. A few minutes later they’d throw something again. Then he’d chuckle and tell them to stop. Then they’d throw something again. Then he’d just look up at the clock and sigh. Many of his classes would devolve into students chatting with each other while he sat at his desk reading a magazine for the remainder of the period. It eventually became so bad that the administration took notice and began the proceedings to fire him. Wait, did I just say fire? My bad. No, they actually reassigned him to Bethune Memorial High which is a school a few towns over with a majority lower income black student body. It wasn’t until two decades later that I learned this was and still is a common practice that no one really likes to talk about. Mr. Y learned of his fate close to the end of the school year, and for our final exam he assigned six true-or-false questions followed by a viewing of Terminator 2 on VHS. Resigned to his fate, he simply gave that precious little of a fuck at that point. I felt really bad for the kids at the school he was being sent to. I hope they at least got to see a kick ass movie like I did.
Mr. Z – affectionately known by most students as Curly – was one of the few teachers that seemed to express interest in my capabilities (though in retrospect I’m not sure it was for the right reasons). He was a flamboyantly effeminate fellow that taught English at the honors level as well as a newly established Humanities course; both of which I was enrolled in my freshman year. He also directed our extracurricular theater department, which I also became involved in at his suggestion. The character I played in our first performance was that of a curmudgeonly old neighbor, though I can’t recall the name of the performance. I do remember our cast party at a friend’s house afterward though. We ended watching Pink Flamingos on Mr. Z’s enthusiastic wink-wink, nudge-nudge recommendation. Looking back at it that was kind of weird, though what was even weirder was the time he asked me to sneak off and smoke a cigarette with him during a Humanities field trip to Argonne National Laboratory. No, wait…I take that back. A bunch of young teens watching a movie featuring a gaping anus at the recommendation of one of their high school teachers is definitely weirder. I ended up being quite fond and appreciative of John Waters’ work a little later in life, but Curly probably should have toned that down just a bit. Yikes.
Mr. W taught the aforementioned Biology class that I failed freshman year. He was promoted to vice principal the following year when the school’s old vice principal retired. I didn’t have much other interaction with him until my senior year when it became evident that my miserable attendance record would prevent me from graduating on time. He called one final parent/teacher conference to discuss my options, which essentially consisted of repeating senior year. As we sat in his office waiting for my parents to arrive, he scolded me by saying that I had been born a failure and that I wouldn’t amount to anything in life. I should have probably enclosed that in quotation marks because those were his exact words. Mr. W also ordered me to leave the premises when I arrived at the graduation ceremony in hopes of at least being able to cheer my friends on. I don’t know if that’s standard operating procedure for dealing with fuck-ups such as myself, but it kind of felt like he didn’t want my presence to tarnish the school’s image. That gorgeous summer afternoon, I ended up drinking beer by the train tracks while sobbing, believing that my life was officially over.
So why am I writing this now? I’ve already made peace with my own past, whether for better or for worse. I went on to earn my Good Enough Diploma, managed a few semesters of college that I paid for out-of-pocket and eventually ended up living life as an average, ordinary citizen with a respectable job, a decent used car and a mortgage. Life is pretty good these days, and I have no desire to play the victim. I am writing this partly because when certain right-thinking people address the problem of failing schools, they typically point to those in post-apocalyptic urban war zones while caterwauling about Republican greed and lack of funding. My own experience unfolded in quite the opposite. It was at a school in a modestly well-to-do middle-class suburb with ample funding and resources. Only during my sophomore year did the subject of money ever come up, and it led to a student walkout that may or may not have been agitated for by the teachers themselves. The primary cheerleader for this action among the students was an impish little brown-nose twat who also may or may not have been the niece of one of the teaching staff. The funding situation couldn’t have been all that bad though, because the stadium bleacher replacement and track resurfacing proceeded apace later that same year and no teachers were laid off. But I digress. Ultimately it can easily be proven that government schools can reliably produce equivalent shitty results, regardless of their geographic location, their demographic attendance and, perhaps most importantly, their financial situation.
I am also writing this because I admittedly am a petty, vindictive man. Though most of the teachers that helped me fail so miserably are probably retired or even deceased at this point, I still want to see someone really sock it to their present-day ilk. In a way, it is in keeping with their own rallying cry of unity. If they want to stand as one when they perceive their peers are threatened, they should also be prepared to fall as one when their peers fuck up. I didn’t cast a vote for Trump, and I had never heard of Betsy DeVos prior to the 2016 election. Even though I still know absolutely nothing about her, I already know that I like her. She has my admiration simply because of the frothing, venomous hatred she inspires in all of the right people. They say she’s inexperienced. They scream and wail about her kids attending private schools. To them she is the human embodiment of Cthulhu itself in the world of education. She may have been running a diploma mill out of the bathroom of a Denny’s off of a highway in Indiana for all I know, and I couldn’t possibly care less. I hope she crushes them. I hope that their organizational structure is so utterly decimated that they dare not even think of regrouping for the next hundred years. Godspeed, Betsy. Give them no comfort, afford them no quarter.
All I could think of while reading this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oVBvxA0mm0
And thanks to the unknown author.
the front-page tickle text credits “michael”.
not much better i know, but there you go.
this whole wordpress “Guest Contributor” shit is pretty lame. *note to easily-irritated mods: i do not blame you. i’ve seen the same thing at other WP sites. they have to paste the byline into the body of the submission.
note to easily-irritated mods
Sigh…
(sobs)
Not to worry, Space Monkey – look up at the article now!
I am so happy now!
(sobs)
I now wish I’d known learning a trade was even an option instead of being a slightly-above-average student who just wanted to build shit instead of learning fuck-all about whatever class I happened to be attending. I don’t think there’s too many things more depressing than realizing you know a ton of stupid things but can’t actually DO anything.
I don’t recall that that was EVER discussed by teachers or parents in any capacity and I believe is partly to blame for our current crop of young idiots.
Right? Never mentioned by anyone. University was assumed because I was “smart.”
Friends who did the vo-tech half day thing in high school have had long, mostly lucrative, careers doing what they enjoyed and have now retired very early and taken up various fun pursuits.
Such as?
My wife has taken up soap making. Me, building furniture and working wood with hand tools. Our best days are the ones we spend making tile mosaic table tops.
Despite my regrets life is pretty good these days.
The best I ever felt was when I was working for contractors outside of school or building things for charity. Never occurred to me to maybe try that instead.
Kids are always dumb.
Never too late, really. I used to be in the tool business and met a lot of kick-ass finish carpenters that were former ‘professionals’.
My nephew fortunately figured this out.
He graduated HS 3 years ago and has been working different semi-skilled jobs, recently for a guy rehabbing houses, supposedly getting HVAC experience, but doing a little bit of everything. He started HVAC classes this past winter, and just got a new job. The new employer called up his professor and asked for a recommendation and that led to the interview. He is top of his class probably because all of his competition are struggling thru a 4 year college right now. He is doing what he likes, probably going to be making decent money, without the 4 years of negative income to kick start his career.
OP smoking in class.
My high school geography teacher was Mr. Y in a nutshell: affable guy, seemed like he had a lesson plan, but was easily derailed by questions. Inevitably, by midway through the period, polite anarchy had broken out and he’d retire to his desk to read. Later on I heard he’d gotten divorced, gotten into some sort of trouble liaising with a colleague, gotten fired or quit. Poor guy.
Very well written piece. I think some context could be added by mentioning that this is all under the umbrella of the US spending more per student than any other country in the world.
I think I’m seeing some common threads amongst many of the readers.
I like this guy.
So do I. Michael is ALWAYS welcome for a drink chez OMWC/SP.
I like him because he reminds me of me.
So take Michael’s traits, add narcissist to the list, and you pretty much have me.
Why even bother, Guest Contributor? You don’t have a chance. You’re too much like your old man. No Guest Contributor ever amounted to anything in the history of Hill Valley!
My graduation wasn’t a whole lot better: no ceremony, mom crying, having to make up credits over the summer to graduate by fall. Not that it mattered, I didn’t go to college in the fall. Ended up working construction for my old man. Still am, although I’ve been picking away at a degree in the meantime and am, I hope, considerably wiser for the time it took me to get here.
Considering how many idiots some of the top notch colleges churn out these days, you did pretty well there my friend.
Ultimately it can easily be proven that government schools can reliably produce equivalent shitty results, regardless of their geographic location, their demographic attendance and, perhaps most importantly, their financial situation.
Perhaps, but to the extent that demography and location are indicative of local voting patterns, well.
Thanks for the piece. Great piece on teachers but no mention of the dumbassery of the principle or admin? I can share one of mine:
We had yet another bomb threat and the genius principle thought the best response was to lock all the students in the gym. Over 2k angry students who realized being locked in the building was not the place we wanted to be if the bomb threat turned real. When the mob started turning violent, said dumbass principle ordered the security guards, phys ed teachers, and the largest teachers to line up across the gym doors to physically prevent us from leaving. They were all knocked down, several trampled over, and the gym doors ripped off in the escape to freedom.
All is well! Remain calm!
If it wasn’t that or Leslie Neilson, you would have been fired.
So there was a happy ending?
I thought so. This principal was horrible. He joined my senior year and the only good teachers promptly quit because of his reputation. Watching his lackeys get knocked down and trampled for obeying his edict to cage us in a potentially bomb-filled room wasn’t the worst outcome.
You can’t leave it like that! We need to hear about the downfall of this bureaucrat.
Errr, I went up to him after receiving my real diploma backstage and told him he was a real piece of shit and could go fuck himself? Maybe not a downfall but seeing his jaw drop and those around him was well worth the pettiness. I was pissed he chewed me out for looking out at the audience while walking across the stage during graduation*.
*Which I did only for my mother and never walked for any others.
I would say your assessment of his character was pretty much spot on. What an asshole.
That’s actually pretty awesome. We only ever got as far as engaging in bitter cynicism about the fact that the district wide SOP of assembling all students in the bleachers during a bomb threat made it real easy to plan an effective attack. Did the ensuing riot and damage at least cause some rethink of their security procedures?
I don’t want your life…
And then you grow up and you realize high school didn’t matter one fucking bit because there will always be a college willing to take you and they will teach you everything you didn’t learn or learned wrong and you look back and wonder why you even bothered to pay any attention at all in high school.
I was one of eight (!) valedictorians at my high school (my graduating class was only about 250).
Yet here I am, in the same comment section as the rest of you, with my butt wearing a top hat avatar.
Hey. Don’t rub it in.
I was one of 12. Maybe they were grading a little too easy.
I was valedictorian in a class of about 400. I didn’t crash and burn until I went off to college.
Go on…
Not in a dead thread.
I’ve been thinking about going into detail about how I’ve screwed up my life….
If I could go back and do it again I would take my HS equivalency test the instant I could and just go strait to college at 16.
I would slap the shit out of my teenage self, for a start. Idiot kid, you thought you had it hard? Followed by a Christmas Carol romp through modern day to show myself why I should have worked harder.
Thats no shit.
My biggest fear and one of my biggest drivers is the idea that I’ll be saying the same thing in ten years about myself now.
The other big driver is never having to take a city bus again.
Also, vagina.
I can relate. A primary driver in my life is the desire to never ever again have to fly commercial.
And then the weekly reading of “Angela’s Ashes”,
I would slap the shit out of my teenage self, for a start.
This.
And then I would tell my teenage self that when the hottest girl in your college freshman class puts her hand on your knee while you are studying, that is a signal and you should probably do something about it.
Brush her hand aside and inform her you’re trying to get some quality study time in.
Even that would have been a better option than doing nothing.
Sometimes you just freeze up when an easy pitch comes at ya.
Stood there like the house by the side of the road…
i remember when I was in grade school (probably 2nd or 3rd grade), after some testing, the school advised that I either get skipped a grade or two, or get moved to a school with an actual gifted program. My parents thought that sticking with my age group would help me socialize better (we can see that didn’t work out, FFS, I hang out here).. If I had known there was an option to test out of HS early, I would have jumped on that in a heartbeat.
My niece got a sweet deal for her last couple of years of HS. The school district paid for her to take classes at the local community college, as advanced classes. So she got to start college with some credits already under her belt.
They just recommended it for my 3rd grader. I shot it the fuck down.
It happened to me. I was fully grown at 14, so I wan’t at the same disadvantage as other grade skippers. My freshman year roommate (who was the same age) not so much.
Had the same thing happen to me. The school reccomended that I skip 3rd grade because I was so much more advanced than my classmates even though I was the youngest in the class (I made the cut off to start school by 2 weeks) and they had a hard time keeping me occupied. My parents thought it was better if I stayed with kids my own age
If I could go back, I’d tell my high school self to short an imperial fuckton of Dow Jones Index futures on October 14, 1987 and close out the position a week and a half later.
Pretty much any decisions I made after that would be moot.
This is precisely what happened to me. Early withdrawal from the school at age 16 after a parental endorsement subsequent to a burned out and ineffective trigonometry teacher failing me. 16-year-old with a GED, the feeling of liberation was intense and great – changed my life. Suddenly the possibilities were endless and I learned actual “social skills” out in the workforce as a store clerk and manual labourer. 8 years after dropping out of high school, I had a master’s degree in electrical engineering and a mortgage. I would have liked to take metal shop in high school, but that wasn’t an option advertised.
If I could do it all over again, I would forego the shitty 2006 mortgage and pay cash for a house with accumulated savings. Live and learn.
I learned nothing in college. Everything I’ve learned has been on the job. That includes learning my college degree is worthless.
Haha! Yeah, as it turned out there was no need at all for me to go to college. Luckily it was back in the olden days and I didn’t come out with a lot of debt.
I don’t necessarily think that college is worthless, provided it is tough and provides a bridge between the ease of HS and the grind of a career. It seems that a good number of the hardcore engineering schools still care about prepping the kids for a career. Also, depending on the school, there can be some great networking advantages.
You are right, though, the real learning happens on the job.
My fluid dynamics prof told the class that we, as young graduating engineers, likely thought we knew it all, and the truth was that we knew squad and the real learning was about to begin. My life experience is that there is always something more to learn, and to make sure to differentiate between those things that give you pleasure to do and those that give you the ability to pay the bills.
+1
I’m always grateful that the Old Country was still on the broadly Prussian-based system when I was a lad so many years ago when I read articles like this.
Mandatory education was only until grade 8/age 14. Afterwards, you could try to get a job, an apprenticeship, go to a trade school or a more general university-stream school. These weren’t taking in pupils based on location, but your grades and entrance exam scores would determine which schools you’re eligible for.
Since I couldn’t muster the super-elite one, my second choice was about an hour bus ride (public transit) each way, but had a more programming than the much nearer one. So that meant I was studying with people who mostly wanted to be there (maybe not every day, but overall chose to go to this particular school), and the curriculum was designed to ensure that, if you make it through the four years, you’ll be prepared for university. Bad in some way, since my first year of college in Canada was mostly reiterating 3rd and 4th year stuff, so I got lulled into false sense of security…
Spent my freshman year and the following summer studying my ass off. Sophmore year I entered the statewide scholastic competition and scored the second highest in the state. I was removed from the competition for ‘fairness’ because the other highest score was the girl from my parish that I had studied with (two winners from the same parish).
I spent the rest of my HS years drinking beer and cutting class.
Fuck the teachers union. Fuck them with a rusty chainsaw.
I joined the Quiz Bowl team because I’ve always been a fan of game shows. I had a boring childhood out in the boonies, so I had grown up reading the World Book Encyclopedia and having an excellent memory, which meant that I did extremely well and got my ugly mug on TV closeups a lot.
Thankfully none of the clips are on Youtube as far as I can find. And both of the shows are long since cancelled. 🙁
I was bored out of my skull in school, from kindergarten on. I devised a means by which I could graduate from high school (in upstate New York) in three years, because the thought of wasting a fourth year in high school was too oppressive to consider. The principal and other assorted administrators were so completely taken off guard they couldn’t figure out how to stop me, even though it was obvious they really wanted to. Somebody told me later the requirements for graduation were changed to make what I did impossible.
Getting out of there and going to college was one of the smartest things I ever did.
College was just an extension of my waste of time in high, though I didn’t know any better. I’m now spending some time trying to realign things after realizing how much time I wasted, though I am still grateful to be in the position I’m in to do so.
I remember my health teacher freshman year had muscular dystrophy. She couldn’t walk, smell or see more than 3 feet in front of her. I always felt horrible for her because she was obviously miserable and likely near the end of her life. On top of that kids were horrible to her. Whenever I feel guilty for the stupid things I did as a kid I tell myself at least I was not as bad as the horrible kids in my health class.
I attended one of the “top schools” in my state, had mostly good teachers who gave a damn, and I was bored out of my mind. My salvation was the freedom to spend all my free time in the music department practice rooms. My teachers would all let me leave their classes if I finished whatever we were supposed to be doing, so between that and “free” periods, lunch etc, I was first in the county and region, and second in the state, in my instrument.
As good a place as any for the skin flute joke.
I’m just surprised you got to it before OMWC.
12 minutes was a fairly quick response.
In comparison, I guess my high school experience was pretty good. Generally engaged and competent teachers (well, over 50% of them) and it put me in a good enough place to get a STEM degree in 4 years.
Of course, I still ended up as an indebted office drone who thinks about the sweet release of death…
As a highschool teacher, both the article and the comments are spot on. I’m not sure how it happened but public education in America has become a case of the Blind leading the God-damn-retarded down the Rabbit Hole of Perdition.
I think that a combination of teachers’ incredible talent for self-preservation (with the help of the unions and at the expense of the students) is mainly to blame. That and the fact that nobody disciplines their kids at home anymore.
Could drive a man to drink!
“That and the fact that nobody disciplines their kids at home anymore.”
Part (not all) of that could be the government prosecuting parents who discipline their kids too much (too much in the opinion of govt officials).
Having big-daddy government take your kids away is a pretty good spanking deterrent, that’s for damn sure.
Point well taken.
My mom retired from teaching English after a paltry twenty years, but the refusal to take responsibility by both students and parents was her foremost reason for quitting. Couldn’t take the excuses or the entitlement anymore.
Second on her list was administration being run by appeasing dolts.
I’ve never hit my children and they are by far the best behaved and most polite kids of all the people I know with kids of the same age. Turns out I don’t need to physically bully a small child to get them to listen to me.
Agreed, you don’t have to hit them, not saying you do. But when the kid doesn’t respect the parent because the parent never punish them in any way, you have the recipe for a Grade A Shitbird Student on your hands.
Unfortunately, your well-behaved and respectful kid is in the vanishingly-small minority of students these days.
It’s not an issue of physical discipline per se, I guess is my point. Most parents don’t follow through with their promises of consequences if it’s inconvenient for them to do so. In our household, if I tell my daughter “If you do X, I will do Y” and then she goes and does it anyways, there’s no way in hell I’m going to deviate from my promise no matter how much of an annoyance it is for me to follow through. If I didn’t follow through, whether consciously or unconsciously she wouldn’t trust my word and in the long run I’d have a much harder time parenting. The key is to just not be lazy and always keep in mind that you’re the one wearing big boy pants and the kid is just a kid doing what kids do.
Not saying you don’t necessarily know this already, I’m just saying lazy parenting seems to be the problem, not a lack of harshness that a lot of parents equate with discipline.
Excellently put. Couldn’t agree more. Funny, but in teaching you generally only interact with terrible parents
The decision in the US to make everyone cross the finish line at the same time, regardless of the fact that this always leads to a dumbed down curriculum and discourages people at either end of the spectrum from being involved, just burns my chaps.
I went to a pretty good school – conservative backwater and filled with blue collar kids – but still some room for the geeks ‘n’ freaks.
Some takeaways:
The vice-principal with this skinny white-haired shrew of a woman who was a little too touchy-feely. She would like to rub your shoulders or put her arm around you. it was uh, awkward. I later found out, from my friend whose mother also taught there, that the VP was a known swinger.
The “computer science” teacher who was actually engaging and always there to give advice even to someone like me, who could already program anything that was thrown at me, but had the worst bad breath. It was gag-inducing anytime he came over. “Do you need any help?” “No!” was the reply.
The totally ripped gym teacher who – in sex ed class – stuck his hand in a (pierced condom) to show how much stretch there was. He then said: “And don’t tell me your dick is too big for a rubber.”
The American history teacher who spent 50% of the year on the fuggin’ Puritans. We never even got to the causes of the Civil War. But at least he was a conservative – albeit a religious one – but really went into depth on the causes of the revolutionary war. He also said – to paraphrase: “Schools don’t need more money. I could teach this class in a basement.”
The English teacher I had – she was offended by my handmade punk t-shirts so she would come over with tape to cover up the words – like “Piss on the World”.
Shockingly, at an all boys school, we had a priest that like to rub shoulders too.
I did get to take two AP classes there, including one for *English. That allowed me to get credit for College so I didn’t have to take English there – hurrah!
*We were given a list of books that we could write an essay on. Since I hadn’t read any of the books on the dreary list, I had to use the “Or pick a book of your choice” option. I picked Naked Lunch, figuring if I was going to bomb this, I might as well go all the way. I ended up getting 3/5 points which was enough to pass.
Thankfully I got out of Freshman English by scoring high enough on the SAT. I had a really enjoyable seminar course on British government with a professor from the UK surprised that I knew Yes, Minister.
The American history teacher who spent 50% of the year on the fuggin’ Puritans. We never even got to the causes of the Civil War.
I graduated high school in 2004. I never studied any parts of the World Wars (and after) in K-12.
Graduated in 02 I took AP history and we made it to the Vietnam war. My friends in regular history stopped at the civil war. I always thought the disconnect was doing
a disservice to students.
I took AP European History (graduated in 1990) and we got up at least to World War II. The other students didn’t believe me when I mentioned the Holodomor (not that it was called that back then) before we got to it.
The totally ripped gym teacher who – in sex ed class – stuck his hand in a (pierced condom) to show how much stretch there was. He then said: “And don’t tell me your dick is too big for a rubber.”
WARTY was your gym teacher?!
Public school related…
I have been reading Strong Towns from the suggestion of…RobC? when I am bored at work. The articles are interesting, but this one killed me:
RETHINKING OUR APPROACH TO BUSING
By mandating that school districts provide free transport to all kids, regardless of any other circumstance, we have created a situation where parents do not have any incentive to consider the true cost of their choice when they decide where to live. They can live two blocks from school or twenty miles from school, the cost to them is the same: nothing.
What if we asked those non-farm parents to pick up the tab? What if that money could be redirected to the classroom? Using my local school district as an example, the numbers could be huge.
Nice, cut the transportation budget, I like it. Except, why are we redirecting the money to the classroom…
In 2011 [when this article was originally written] we were going to spend $3.4 million in transportation costs. That seems in line with the costs reported in the MN2020 report. With a starting teacher in the district making roughly $41,000 in salary and benefits [in 2011], we could add over 80 new teachers right now if we stopped subsidizing transportation. That would be a 20% increase in staffing, potentially a game-changing amount.
Oh fuck, this guy thinks more teachers and staff would improve education. I’d rather keep the buses.
The idea that a school district would employ people to drive buses full time is fucking ridiculous to me.
Yes, it was me.
And I think I remember that original article.
It is by no means a libertarian site, but there is a core overlap with libertarian ideas. And there are a lot of people on the site who can’t even grasp serious libertarian ideas.
I was asked several times through high school if I had done the math to figure out what I could skip doing to still pass with a decent grade. the answer was yes. I ddin’t do homework. I already knew the next 3 weeks of math. Most of the books they had us read were not interesting, and since they talk about them in the classes anyway, it wasn’t hard to get what happened in them.
I was smarter than my classes, and I hated being forced to sit there anyway. they have nothing to give someone who doesn’t fit their idea of a student.
I eventually started goofing off more, as I realized how little it mattered.
I hated, more than anything, the fact that there was a group of students that were favored. they started clubs with teachers, went overseas, and got 5-10 points added to anything they did.
they were applauded for their parroted ideas and hippie shit. i was talked to after class for calling teachers out on fallacious arguments.
Like SP and Mustang said above, no one ever said that the voc school i spent half my time junior and senior year was a viable option. no one said, “hey, DOOM, you basically have all the certifications and knowledge needed to be a drafter and CAD operator. you could try that for a while.”
They threw the people they didn’t want in school to the Voc place. I went there because I liked the drafting class I took freshman year, and wanted to do that with a computer instead of a pencil.
Go to college, It’ll be better they said. ‘you don’t have all these stupid classes you hate so much. you can talk ideas”
NO. I had 0 engineering classes that first year. one math class, that I had already taken. I Had to take another english class, reading books that I had little interest in.
it was the same, and cost me 30 grand.
OT, but, ha ha!
Verdict vacated for heroin dealer convicted in Preet Bharara’s lone U.S. Attorney court appearance
Someone should go down to Home Depot and buy ol’ Preet a present to make him feel better. Maybe something in the lawn & garden section near the lawnmowers…
Something gas powered? Useful for clearing trees?
Couple days ago a pine covered lot was cleared and woodchipper was brought in to take care of the trees. Wow, impressive, the chipper was dumping into a semi trailer and was filling it up. Trees, yes plural, at a time were being dropped into the chipper.
I foolishly drove by without taking a picture or video.
I’m someone who went through 12 years of Catholic education, including 4-years at a college prep HS. I was bored out of my mind through almost all of it. In the math class I took senior year (pre-calc, as the AP Calc class would have taken out two days of study hall, which is when I did my homework), I would read ahead in the textbook, then read something else during the teacher’s lectures. If she tried to yell at me to pay attention, I would point out the math errors she had up on the board as she made them. After I kept getting 100%’s on the tests, she eventually just left me alone.
There is a story from my days in High School that really helped turn me around on my views of my parents though. As it was a Catholic school, on holy days of obligation, Mass was mandatory. If you were a senior, you could drive your own car up the hill (about half a mile) to the church instead of taking the buses. A group of my friends were piling into a van to go up the hill, so I joined them. The driver decided, he was hungry, and fuck church. So he drove out to a McDonald’s to grab breakfast before going up the hill. In the meantime, there were probably about a dozen of us sitting on the floor in the back of the van, and someone pulled out a bottle of rotgut whiskey. It got passed around and some of them drank it. We were late for the start of Mass, and the principal was there waiting for us. She smelled the cigarettes and whiskey on the group, and took us all away. We were then questioned (both as a group, and individually) as to who was drinking. With the threat being that either none of us would graduate publicly, or only those who drank would be punished. When I was questioned, I answered honestly, “I don’t know who was drinking, I wasn’t paying attention. But I didn’t drink.” This really pissed the administrators off, as the yelled and threatened that I wouldn’t graduate publicly unless I told them who was drinking. I kept repeating my (actually, legitimately true) answer until they got tired of it.
The school did however, call my parents. My mom was home at the time and got the call. I was told that the conversation basically went like this:
School: “Your son was late to Mass today, and he was with other students who were drinking.”
Mom: “Was he drinking?”
S: “No, but he was with students who were.”
M: “So, you’re calling me to tell me that my son did the right thing?”
S: “No. He was with students who were drinking.”
M: “But, he didn’t drink.”
S: “No, he didn’t.”
M: “Thank you for telling me that my son behaved.” –click–
[layman’s impression of catholic school] =
Years 1-11: “Don’t masturbate or you go to hell”
Year 12: (Thomas Aquinas)
+CYO basketball
+Slutty chicks
Pretty on the nose.
You left out the terrible uniforms, being an altar boy to get out of class, and the nuns. I got to deal with two different orders of nuns, Ursuline and Notre Dame. And they didn’t bring up Aquinas in any of my classes (that I remember), but I did get taught how role playing games were a gateway to demons and hell.
I learned nothing years 1-11
Not even how to finger-bang Mary Jane Rottencrotch?
I just half added school, did as little as possible to pass, which didn’t take much. Spent most of rest of time daydreaming or cutting up. I never applied myself and none of my teachers put any effort into getting me to put in a little effort. Probably wouldn’t have mattered though. Wasn’t nobody gonna tell me shit.
I just half added school
Sounds like a common core technique.
Doesn’t it though. My phone doesn’t like profanity for some reason. Doesn’t want me posting curse words. If this thing was do smart it would know that 9 outta 10 times the word will be “assed” not “added”. Smart phone my add.
To answer your question from the last post, “derp” did not originate from dwp. The first recorded instance was in the movie “Baseketball”, uttered by Trey Stone of “South Park” fame after his character is caught sniffing panties.
Huh. Gilmored a post about derp. Send appropriate, somehow.
My high school was pretty damn redneck, being in the middle of nowhere. Little rough too, but nothing on the level of an inner city school (i.e. stuff like how I got stabbed in the arm on the bus at age 16). The school wasn’t particularly well funded and our six-figure Principal made sure to allocate resources towards what he want rather than what was needed. Our U.S. history textbooks, for example, talked about current President Ronald Reagan (this was in the 2000s). One year a math teacher retired so they had the recent biology teacher take over, and she proceeded to be taught by the kids in her class.
The quality of the education wasn’t great, and I cruised through it pretty easily. It was actually very detrimental to me in the long run because I effectively spent four years not being challenged or having to try (and the decline in university quality afterwards didn’t help either). I spent the last year of high school in the back of classes playing computer games on a laptop I bought, still had a 96 average. The guidance councilors were still pushing the ‘the only way you’ll get into the upper middle class is through university education’ narrative back then, don’t know if that’s the case now. I saw a lot of people who had trouble in high school trying to go off for university they clearly weren’t ready for. Not many of them lasted the first year, so they got a nice shot of early debt for effectively nothing.
Just remembered a good story about my American History teacher. He was older, in his 60s, and a retired marine who served in Korea or Vietnam. He wasn’t the best teacher but still a great guy who didn’t gloss over the wars in our history. One of my favorites.
One day in class, a fake white wannabee thug was harassing the girl sitting next to him. The teacher told him to knock it off. Fake thug got in his face and pushed him. Teacher beat the ever loving shit out of him in front of the class. Teacher “resigned” from teaching. Fake thug was excessively mocked for getting the shit kicked out of him by a senior citizen.
Funny coincidence is that he started teaching history as adjunct at the local university and I had him for my American History gen-ed. My sister also took the same course though in a different section. Teacher remembered me and told us that since there’s no way he could remember the exact details of papers when grading, my sister and I might as well just turn in the same term papers with different names and save some work. Very cool dude. He knew the work was bullshit and just enjoyed talking history.
I was bored by school, so my teachers decided I must not have been all that bright–despite the fact that I went into kindergarten already reading and by fifth grade was reading at a (1970s) high school level.
I was put in remedial math in the 7th grade, with the stabby/lights fires kids, and my gay special ed teacher had me editing his poetry for him while the delinquents played Risk to keep them docile.
This explains a lot…
(applies to other comments here as well)
my gay special ed teacher had me editing his poetry for him
This explains quite a lot.
GODDAMMIT EDDIE.
Eddie went to Catholic school.
No, he didn’t.
Which is why he’s a Catholic now. 🙂
CATHOLIC SCHOOL WENT TO EDDIE
this explains a lot…
This answers a lot of questions.
All of his poems were about the desert and terrible.
Your teacher was Dewey Bunnell?
He had a very wispy mustache and Steve Perry hair. Nice guy, just a terrible poet.
Why the desert? Was a shitty extended metaphor for his love life? I’m going to assume it was.
Or he had some sort of sunburn fetish.
Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Deserts are hot,
And you dude-bitchez are too.
?
Maybe he was a fan of Cato the Younger.
“After Pompey’s defeat at Pharsalus (in Thessaly), Cato led a small remnant of troops to Africa. He shut himself up in Utica, and even after the decisive defeat of the republican forces at Thapsus (46), he was determined to keep the gates closed until he had evacuated his adherents by sea. When the last transports had left, Cato committed suicide.”
Oops, my mistake, he tried to get to Africa but ended up in Utica.
I was fortunate enough to go to a very good public high school. One of the sorts that the real estate listings make a point of emphasizing the district. And I’ll even concede that I did, in fact, have some solid teachers. But, what I learned, consistently, is that, if it was good, it really had little if anything to do with design. Or money. “Star” teachers were guys who knew how to schmooze the parents and school board. Yet, these same teachers (science) had class notes and lesson plans that were from the 1960s. My economics teacher, in a parent-teacher conference, admitted to my mother that I knew economics as well as he did. Because the school’s population had declined from the height of the baby boom, the administration decided that they needed a student lounge that would be earned with points (gotten through grades or extracurricular participation) at a significant renovation expense when they knew a large cohort of students in earlier grades was going to require reconverting. Decisions followed no coherent rationale whatsoever. And this was at a good school.
I went to the Chicago Public Schools for high school and probably out of the 10 teachers I had during those 4 years, only 2 made a difference in my life. Anyway, I had this horrible chemistry teacher my junior year of high school and for some reason she would pick on all the students who were smart or nerdy. What got me on her shit list was when she once told me to read a page or two out of our chemistry textbook and explain to the class in a manner that a 3rd grader would understand it. Without thinking, I said that we’re in 11th grade so what’s the point of doing that. That day forward she made my life a living hell. She purposely flunked me (I was a straight A student) and I had proof that she fucked with my grades. My Mom came to the school and let her have it and she grudgely changed my grade to a C-. My Mom than talked to the principal and asked why she was still teaching despite the numerous complaints over the years, and he responded that the teacher’s union made it nearly impossible and time consuming to fire a teacher.
So she stayed there for a couple of more years and last I heard, she got cancer.
All these school stories and not a single one about a night with hot teacher Mrs. or Mr. Doe. Come on! Based on the research I’m making up, statistics indicate 1 out 5 people sleep with a hot teacher in high school.
I only had one hot teacher in high school. She taught psychology, though I never learned anything. I was too busy daydreaming about her and those nerdy glasses.
I’ll be right back.
I banged the hot 25 year old TA teaching my Technical Writing class back when I was only 19. Does that count? Even though I attended 4 different high schools, in 3 different countries, I never had a teacher that I would have actually wanted to know biblically. They were good teachers, but they were very hard on the eyes.
“They were good teachers, but they were very hard on the eyes.”
Reasons 1349-1385 of why our family homeschools. So nice that we can take the time on stuff that needs it and get through the stuff that the kids understand.
I went to public school. I’m smart-ish, so I wound up in upper-level classes in high school. My school was reflective of the area: well-off yuppie spawn, some working class folks, and a lot of public housing kids. Nowadays it’s gone completely to shit, but when I was there in the early-mid 90s it was considered rough, but a pretty good school if you got the right teachers. One thing that struck me was the tremendous gap between AP and upper-level classes (“Level 5”) and the mid-range classes (“Level 3” was the step below 5, and was considered standard verging on semi-advanced) in terms of not just what was taught but how it was taught and how students were treated. The two were totally different worlds. I was considered a rare animal by my peers because I opted to take a Level 3 World History class because it didn’t have a Level 5 equivalent. This meant that not only did I know “bad kids”, but I spent time with them. I was looked at like Marco Polo.
I bored easily, didn’t have patience for things I felt were pointless, and lacked much in the way of self-discipline. That meant I tended to do very well in classes that interested me, and subsequently enjoyed very positive relationships with those teachers, and didn’t do very well in classes I found tedious, such as virtually every math class, physics, and chemistry. I graduated with a gentleman’s C, then wasted a ton of time and money taking courses part-time while working, changing majors, dropping classes if I didn’t feel like going anymore, the works.
I’m a case study in someone who should never have gone to college. When I was that age, they didn’t have stuff like Full Sail. If I was graduating high school now, I would go straight to a specialized programming “vo-tech” program and not even sweat a 4-year degree.
Went to a HS with a mix of ranch kids, some indians and military kids. The schooling was “good” for the 70’s but wasted my time and bored the shit out of me. I enjoyed football and wrestling and was actually good at it. I had no knowledge of wrestling until my ex Ranger Infantry officer Vietnam vet freshman science teacher saw me lay out a varsity end during a scrimmage. The next day in class he told me I was wrestling. One of the biggest impacts on me was seeing that teacher on the day Saigon fell. Just immense sadness coming from him struck me.
The only things from those four years I value were learning to rock climb, seeing the last recorded wolf in AZ chase down a Coues Whitetail while hunting and learning about sex. Climbing did more to shape me than any other thing. It made me responsible, taught me to evaluate risk and reward and how to be independent and trust my own judgement. HS is a scam.
HS is a scam.
Ding ding ding.
Man, my public H.S. education seems like fricken Exeter compared to that!
This is just a “how we were jerks to a teacher” post, since it’s quicker than anything else right now….
I liked Chemistry a lot and our school had one teacher who was really good (later had her for AP) and another who was a brand-new, idealistic, just-out-of-college little guy. He was OK as a teacher and really liked the subject, but his demeanor and lack of experience made at least that first year rough on him and us. Well one day when he was out of the classroom for awhile, the plan was to turn on a few of the gas jets (on the lab tables) by the door for awhile, and then have everybody lay out on the tables and floor. Worked perfectly.
Still mixed feelings of amusement and regret at giving him a hard time…