Good morning! Yesterday sure was an interesting day. TCU bounced aTm from the CWS. The Astros won. Everybody seems to be getting jazzed up for one of the weakest NBA drafts ever. But the biggest sports story happened off the field. (Rolls eyes) I guess they didn’t have room to report on how his recruiting, and performance in The Game, is sadly lagging his contemporary to the south. But whatever. The thing that pisses me off so bad is that they’re deleting comments making fun of the publicity-hound. Oh well, the only thing that matters are championships and wins in The Game. And based on his performance in those two categories, he’s a failure. So carry on, Jimmy. You keep getting press and St Urban will keep getting gold pants.
::wipes spittle from computer monitor::
OK, that’s enough ranting. Let’s delve into…the links!
Jon Ossoff: Election Loser
Jon Ossoff will be happy that he’s represented by a Democrat in the US Congress. Of course, that’s because he lives in GA-05, not in GA-06. GA-06 will be represented by Karen Handel, who absolutely smoked him last night and made everybody from Nate Silver to all the other pollsters that had her chances of winning well below 50%. Hell, the race was three points outside the margin of error on almost all the polls. (TW: HuffPo piece. I would bring a 55 gallon barrel for the tears. But also be prepared for every conspiracy you can think of that doesn’t include aliens.)
Alternate headline for this story: In a Selfish Act, Asshole Kills Himself, Endangers Others on Public Street. I wonder if taxpayers will be on the hook for a survivorship pension for the next 30-40 years. I also wonder if they’re gonna find that he was “involved?” with one of those students he worked with. Because happy, well-grounded people don’t off themselves while literally driving down the street.
Just in case you were worried you wouldn’t find the most retarded ass story imaginable today to read, fear not! I found it for you. (TW: Salon going full fucking Salon.)
Stephen Hawking is feeling pretty generous…with other peoples’ money. Hey, Stevie. Why don’t you run a bake sale instead of trying to put your robot hand into my pocket to fund your little ideas. Besides, we’ve already been to the damn moon. The greatest human being ever, and sharer of my birthday, was the first man to set foot on it.
Some dude, whose name reminds me of having water sprayed up my asshole, finally quit his job. I guess the pressure finally got to him. Or he ran out of sexist jokes. Either way, its probably time they found a professional COP to run the show.
Texas Mom
And lastly, in strange shit, Texas people can be just as weird as their contemporaries from Florida. However, I will go ahead and say that’s a nice rack.
That’s it, friends. Go out and have a great day. I may be underwater by tomorrow morning if this damn storm Cindy makes landfall in the wrong place. Let’s cross our fingers it doesn’t.
SJWednesday: Finger Painting Edition
Count Potato: No Longer Thinking of Breakfast
I’m seeing red after clicking that link.
Not clicking.
Also not clicking.
You guys are missing out.
IT’S A TRAP!
*runs to trashcan* ::hurls::
Don’t waste that. Make a painting.
+1 PissChrist
The funny part about the uproar was that Serrano considered the work to be a statement on the cheapening of Christian values in contemporary America.
+1 PukeChrist
Ew ew ew click away click away
I don’t know about you lame-os, but I feel empowered.
DU: Asking the hard questions….
Your links are as retarded as my links!
High praise indeed!
Having 9 surgeries to look like a temporary resident of the White House is pretty retarded. I’m not sure I understand the motivation.
Who knows. And she doesn’t really even look like Malania Trump. She does have a nice pair of tits for her age though.
That’s the “before” picture.
I know. She went under the knife yesterday, according to the story. But I doubt she gets work done to those bad boys. Its not like Melania has a bigger, or better, rack.
“Virtually every elected Republican seems to lack sympathy, empathy, decency, and just plain humanity.”
Never mind the rest of the stupid list, this gets to the heart of it. I don’t want to elect somebody who understands my feelings. I want to elect somebody who will protect my interests from the people who want to impose their feelings on me.
YOU WEILL HAVE EMPATHY OR I WILL EMPOWER SOMEONE ELSE TO BEAT IT INTO YOU!
So much this…
Progressives want this perfect world – a vision of humanity working together to help each other – even if it means bulldozing bodies into a pit. It’s for your own good, comrade.
Here’s their model in a nutshell. In the 60s, they used to try this utopia world stuff. They called it a commune.
So them and 20 of their closest friends get together and move to a rural secluded area and acquire a property where they will live and work together in unity to achieve perfect harmony. Experiment ends in abject failure when 3/4 refuse to work or contribute to effort in any way. Gives up plan and becomes full time protesters in an effort to convince government to rob other people and give to them so they can continue not contributing to any effort in making world better.
“So them and 20 of their closest friends get together and move to a rural secluded area and acquire a property where they will live and work together in unity to achieve perfect harmony. Experiment ends in abject failure when 3/4 refuse to work or contribute to effort in any way.”
My brother was involved in just such a scheme, from 1969 to 1971. He gave it up, tired of being one of the 1/4 who did everything, and left. He went back home to Iowa and started building speakers, eventually building a tidy little business and working towards the retirement he’s now enjoying.
Downside: He still owns 1/5 of the damned farmstead in Missouri. The original contract they all drew up was that all five stakeholders had to agree to sell the place. The one asshole still living there refuses to sell. Why should he? He’s the only one still there, and only has to pay 1/5 of the taxes, etc. on the place.
I don’t see that as a perfect world. I see that as an idiot’s idea of a childish world. People that think like these idiots seem to have failed basic biology and lack the understanding that the laws of nature are contrary to their fantasy of other people carrying the heavy load so they can slack.
I have to agree with AlexinCT here. It isn’t a perfect world they’re after in the least. I mean look at the hypothetical “New Soviet Man”. It isn’t an ideal in the least. It’s a creature with no dreams, no character, no sense of his or her own existence. It’s a “person” who is not only just a cog in the wheel, not only content to be just that, but only values its own existence for being a cog in the wheel.
What these assholes are after isn’t a perfect world. What they’re after is an excuse to vent all of their pent up frustration, resentment, anxiety and malice on an existence that doesn’t honor and reward their irrationality.
It’s also just not true. It’s the worst kind of political rhetoric: that the other team aren’t even people, which means that ultimately they don’t need to be dealt with as such
This. Both sides traffic in it, but the left has been elevating it to the centerpiece of their platform as critical theory/intersectional feminism becomes more and more prominent in their philosophical underpinnings.
It’s the application Marxism to things other than economic inequality. The dissolution of the bourgeoisie only requires that the post-revolution society be classless. If class doesn’t exist, no one can be in a class. No more classes, no more class struggles. So the people who used to be rich can continue on living in peace, equal to their fellow comrades. This is what earnest Marxists believe. But that doesn’t even work in theory when you replace class with race or sex, because those groups can’t be “dissolved” without eliminating them somehow.
There are no racial groups that they want to eliminate, right?
Hey, there! Let me show you the new showers we just installed!
“Yeah I splurged on the Zyklon3000. It’s a retro design from Europe that’s so hot right now.”
When you really can’t defend your ideas in a debate, you resort to dehumanizing your opponent, so you can avoid them dismantling your nonsense. Especially when you are a snowflake that really doesn’t want to do anything but feel good about your virtue signaling.
How do you do it??
Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V?
Amazing.
These euphemisms are getting technical.
I don’t see ‘Why do we keep losing?’ in there. Lack of self awareness stunning.
Admitting they keep losing can lead to having to think that maybe, just maybe, the shit they peddle doesn’t appeal to enough people. And since they are not allowed reeducation camps to fix these people that disagree, at least not yet, tackling this issue is not something they want to do.
37) Are knuckleballers the Sith of Major League Baseball? There are usually only a couple knuckleballers at a time playing, often an older guy and a younger guy. Right now, it’s R.A. Dickey, who’s dirt-old (perhaps using ancient knuckleball knowledge to extend his lifespan?) and the much younger Steven Wright, presumably his disciple. They channel power even they can’t really control or predict. I can’t quite say they’re evil, but I can’t not say it, either.
Just look at this list of knuckleballers I got from Wikipedia:
Jared Fernandez, 2001-06
Charlie Haeger, 2006-10
Steven Wright, 2013- present
Isn’t it obvious? These guys were all Dickey’s disciples, whom he then destroyed for reasons of his own before finding another disciple. And Wright is out for the 2017 season due to knee surgery. My guess is we’ll never hear from him again, but next season, there’ll mysteriously be a new young knuckleballer somewhere in MLB, and R.A. Dickey will just keep pitching and getting older. It’s not like the Braves have anyone else to put on the mound, anyway.
Remember that time the rookie R.A. Dickey struck out Babe Ruth on three pitches in the dirt?
There’s no video, but its probably true.
Ya, but Babe Ruth was sober that day. Everyone knows Ruth played better when he was on a bender.
He trains them and then sucks the life out of them to keep pitching.
He’s the Highlander…
Glad Tim Wakefield managed to evade R. A. Palpatine’s attention.
For a time…
Dickey was Wakefield’s apprentice. When he had learned enough, he killed him off and surplanted him as Master.
Back in the 90s, I seemed to regularly end up with a knuckleballer (Charlie Hough multiple times) on my fantasy team.
They absolutely destroy your whip.
And usually your ERA as well. Why would you ever have a knuckleballer on your team? A nice High K Middle reliever is better unless you just had a ridiculously high innings minimum.
A few years ago, I pulled the most what may have been the most dickish move of all time in our fantasy hockey league. I had a goalie get a shutout on the first night of the season. We didn’t have a min games requirement and only counted GAA. I never played another goalie again the rest of the season.
re: Nate Silver
Can we just stop listening to this guy? Still analyzing and breaking down polls that are crap from the get-go isn’t making him look any better after the 2016 election.
“But also be prepared for every conspiracy you can think of that doesn’t include aliens.”
All to keep from facing the hardest conspiracy of all: voters just aren’t that into you.
UNPOSSIBLE!
WE FEELZ…
HIs twitter feed is a shitshow. He came on last night before polls closed and said “a victory by either person winning by less than 4% will prove the polls accurate” in an attempt to gain some credibility back after saying there was a 70% chance Ossoff would win otherwise data and math “were broken” earlier in the week. He put in an 8 pt spread to ensure he would be right…and still ended up wrong.
Dude is an absolute hack. His political polling is only marginally worse than his sports science bullshit. He needs to go away.
He got lucky in 2008 and because his predictions happened to line up with the desired outcome of our prog overlords, he will always be the Smartest Guy In The Room. If he’s wrong, it’s not really his fault, it’s incomplete data sets or skewed polls or people lying to the pollster. Couldn’t ever be his crap methodology and ideological bias, no siree.
Yeah one of the biggest mistakes the Dems made over the last decade (and are still making) is thinking that Obama was popular because of his policies. Obama was personally popular (I never understood why, but I can analyze the data and accept reality) and that’s why he won the Presidency twice. People, especially in 2008, were not voting for the Democratic agenda, the Democratic ideology. They voted for History, and for Progress.
In a very real sense, the Dems from 2008 forward have been a cult of personality. Except this is America, and we have a built in expiration date on those, and there’s no way for Obama to pass his personal popularity and charisma off to Hillary or whatever other schlub they run in 2020.
“or whatever other schlub they run in 2020.”
You mean Hillary?
Might be Zombie Hillary by then.
What is dead may never die.
Yeah, I think Hillary is more Innsmouth than Haiti, although she does seem to have a certain affinity with the latter.
That is not dead which may eternal run,
In stranger aeons, even Hill may be done?
“Obama was personally popular (I never understood why, but I can analyze the data and accept reality)”
Obama was really popular with people that saw an opportunity to virtue signal and a lot of people that were tired of Bush’s nonsense in 2004, and he remained popular with the virtue signalers that felt a second vote would so up their creds that nobody would dare call them racist again in 2012, where the media playing goalie for him managed to hide a lot of really ugly shit that would have definitely cost him the election had more people known that his administration had not just failed that badly, but was turning the country into a banana republic.
Actually it is pretty easy to see why Obama would be personally popular. He was youngish for a President, had a laid back easy going style, gave a really good speech when on teleprompter and when not giving a speech had a very personal style of interaction that really captured peoples attention. Sure he lacked the raw charisma of a Bill Clinton or Ronnie Raygun but if he never went into Politics and you met him at a party every one of us would have generally liked the guy because he seemed like a pretty decent person.
Now that could have all been a show for the cameras, but that is the way he was percieved
Got to disagree. He always struck me as a smug little prick who condescended as if he was always smarter based on nothing at all. Clearly HE had a high opinion of himself. I wouldn’t call someone like that a decent person.
Well, Handle won by more than 5, so according to the sore losers, that’s a judgement on Trump, he’s winning. Wait… they’re now saying it isn’t a judgement on Trump?
When they win it is a historic reversal and a definite rebuke of Trump. When they lose it is an unimportant election that says nothing other than people are tired of Trump somehow. It was hilarious to watch the total 180 done last night by the dnc operatives with bylines leading up to the count and after it became obvious Hollywood had not succeeded in buying the left the election.
Yesterday, they were saying it was a “bellwether”.
Today ti is nothing special and doesn’t mean Trump’s agenda is failing like they claimed just yesterday.
You can’t fake this level of stupidity, even in a parody.
It’s all junk statistics but there aren’t enough people knowledgeable in the field to call him out on it. There are just some things that can’t be properly modeled and an X% chance to win is meaningless when the the polls open or the game is played. It’s only use would be if you were betting on the outcome. I love the updating chances to win they have during the election or during the game, the line graphs that move as the game/election progresses until they hit 100%/0% at the end. What the fuck is the point of that? What useful information does it actually convey? It’s nonsense.
Here is the real problem with that….
Saying that there is X% chance of some future event occurring when that future event is a singular one off event is utterly meaningless because it is non falsifiable.
If Silver says a 70% chance of Ossoff winning and Ossoff wins, it “proves” his statistics, however if Ossoff loses it meant that reality took a path that fell into the 30% range. There could never be an actual outcome that could prove his math wrong because you need more than 1 measurement to show the statistics to be off and in the case of elections no two are ever similar enough to be compared to each other.
It is actually a bit of genuis, rather than having to predict a specific outcome and risk being proven wrong you predict a range of possibilities that can’t be falsified because that range only ever gets tested once.
It’s merely the secular version of haruspicy.
What does a flavorful spring have to do with it?
A fellow Thai-style grilled chicken livers fan, I take it?
How about a religious version of Haro Kiti?
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/a4/4c/07/a44c0711e8be7fdc7712e6e50c78454b.jpg
No need to listen to Silver of any of the other ‘experts’. Here’s the formula.
Watch polls. On election day see where polls are. Move that number + 5 – 8 to the GOP side. Wait to be proven right.
You would think that the left would look at themselves in the mirror when Breitbart of all site is posting more accurate polls than the NYT, WaPo, or 538, but they won’t. In the meantime, I’m now expect that the GOP will gain seats rather than lose them in 2018.
I think first the entire bullshit-term “Data Journalism” needs to be dragged out behind the woodshed and beaten to death
Nah, it should set on fire, in the middle of the sportsball field so all can see.
I’m sure he could get a job at the county fair – guessing your age within 3 years (i.e., giving you a seven year range) for stuffed teddy bears.
“Would You Like to Know More?”
Want to Learn More about Intersectional Feminism? Watch Black-Owned Networks
I’m more interested in this channel
That is awesome
You’ve made me so very happy.
They don’t seem to realize that those of us who did investigate have determined that “Intersectionality” is total bullshit. We did teach ourselves, and reached a different conclusion.
Exactly. I learned what it is, concluded that it’s a combination of Marxist rubbish and meaningless word salad, then summarily rejected it as worthy of any further intellectual effort. It’s like saying “The onus is on neurosurgeons to learn more about phrenology.”
I’m appropriating that for stock rhetoric. Although, I worry that my targets may not parse phrenology.
intersectionality (noun): convergence of left-wing ideologies resulting in multiple ideology pile up with critical brain injuries
Why do these anuses only fall on white people?
It’s the modern white man’s burden.
I don’t know, I always thought the onus on me was to mercilessly mock anyone who took “intersectional feminism” seriously
So….Mary Tyler Moore?
That’s cultural appropriation, yo.
I missed the Jewsday Tuesday thread yesterday because the post was after I had already gone to bed (damn time-zones — *shakes fist at sun*), so I’m posting this here. Anyone interested in the Documentary Hypothesis mentioned by OMWC might also enjoy this book. It can be a bit speculative, but they make an effort at tying things together with the archaeological record. Enjoyable read.
You shall not be fooling anyone this time, Finkelstein!
His supposed proof the Philistines were Canadian has piqued my interest.
Venezuela is running out of oil.
I blame capitalism.
RAH, of course.
Shocking how often that applies these days.
Trumputin stole their oil! He drilled into their reserves from his underground lair!
He hacked their oil?
He drank their milkshake!
And he terk der jerrrrbs!
His secret Nazi friends that left their artifacts in Argentina fracked it from Argentina, all the way out. Or was it from a resort Hotel he owns in Curacao?
You aren’t wrong, without enough capitalism artificial scarcity is sure to follow.
re: Venezuela is proof that the rich will be insulated from economic ruin
uh – that’s because they are rich. Which gives you more options.
That just seems like a good argument for capitalism. If socialism can’t hurt the rich as much as it hurts the poor, then might as well suck with the system that helps both.
But there’s only so much money to go around. If we let the rich hoard it all, everyone else gets poorer! The rich are evil and likes to just sit on their wealth while watching everyone else suffering!
/prog argument
Fixed size pie must be cut in a SJ way!
I’ll let someone from the comments explain it to you:
Too early?
Actually, I would say no..
The MSM media has already dropped the story.
While the Giffords shooting was on the front page of the NYT for a week.
I had to listen to my “progressive” relatives harp on about how Giffords is a “hero”. I remember these same exact people complaining during the Iraq War when the media would call anyone a “hero” who had been through a negative ordeal like Jessica Lynch.
Judges say… “Nope!”
Shots fired.
The fetish of sending people to Mars is stupid, even more so by 2025. There are a whole host of technical challenges to solve, including figuring out how to prevent the Mars crew from having their muscles atrophy à la Hawking.
I thought the radiation was the biggest worry.
Yes. This.
Nah, you just have to get inside the alien temple and put your hand on the thingy that fires up the magnets and the ice core heater.
I vote that we send Matt Damon first.
MATT DAMON!!
True story: I bought a Matt Damon autographed photo of the puppet from Team America with “F.A.G.” captioned on the bottom of it. Its hanging in my den.
That’s…awesome!
Pics!
You got one of Affleck in your bathroom?
Michael Moore.
Big bathroom then …
Nah. But I do have one of C Everett Koop that I never framed. It’s put away somewhere. The rest are all sports except one: a print of Neil Armstrong since the originals are several thousand $$$.
Lots of scarlet and gray in the sports stuff, especially the jerseys. Although I do have a signed Ted Williams pic and a signed Bob Feller pic too. It’s actually a decent collection.
I would be more impressed if you told me you had John Holmes’ crack pipe, Ron Jeremy’s autographed photo sucking his own weiner, or Seka’s dirty panties…
Or is that HM’s turf?
My dad has all sorts of signed baseballs that are probably worth a fortune (he worked for the Reds back in the mid to late 80s). Everyone from Pete Rose to Bobby Bonilla, Griffey Sr., etc.
Now betting slips autographed by Rose…
True Story: My mother and step-father were guests at Seka’s 2nd wedding.
That explains a lot.
They told me there was a metric-shit ton of weed present during the ceremony.
I swear I am not using my NSA contacts to look up your info HM.. Honestly….
I had to Google Seka.
Isn’t being a Buckeye fan a documented and incurable mental disease? I seem to remember something about that in the DSM.
I do think thought that watching THE FUCKING ROCKIES KILL PEOPLE WITH THEIR AWESOMENESS can mitigate some of the symptoms.
Ohh, and I hate the BUff’s, for the record. My school had exactly one sports team and they are national champs AGAIN.
I also don’t understand people claiming we need to live there some day because the Earth (allegedly) running out space.
Antarctica is way more habitable than Mars and larger than the continental United States. Thus far, no one’s really building cities there except for research.
Or, you know, you could just build a city the size of Beijing in Montana…
Everyone knows chinese and sheep don’t mix.
They built this city on Wok and (Spring) Roll?
Parents Are Loving The Strong Feminist Message Of ‘Cars 3’
Woohoo! Party!
So they just cherry pick tweets from a bunch of nobodies, and call it a story?
This is why you have to have journalism degrees, to keep the standards this high.
We’re planning to see the feminist message of Wonder Woman this weekend. It looks pretty good. Worth it?
It’s a good movie, which has been a high bar for the DC movies to get to recently. With a couple of changes, I think it could have been a great movie, but I can’t really go into them without some fairly large spoilers.
“Large spoilers” is a euphemism I haven’t heard in a while. Bravo.
Dude, she was so HOT even my wife said so…interest piqued!
1) Remove all of the sidekicks except Sameer.
2) Cast someone other than David Thewlis.
3) Cast some Germans who speak actual German.
4) Find a better MacGuffin than a superweapon, better yet, rewrite to have the story driven by something other than a MacGuffin hunt. Like, perhaps, a story driven by character motivations.
The best part (to me) about Wonder Woman is how incompetent it makes the lords and masters of Hollywood (Big Lefty Donors all) look. This lady director has had two major films directed (Monster, which won an Oscar in 2003, and supposedly earned 6 times its budget in box office alone), and Wonder Woman, a summer blockbuster that has already earned 4 times its budget in box office. How the exact fuck did those sexist pigs not use her for more movies than that? If I had an employee that was consistently earning 400% or greater profit margins for a product, they’d be my number one person, and get every opportunity to produce more product for me. Instead they just ignored her from 2003 til last year? It really is true that Hollywood projects its own sexism and racism onto the rest of the world.
She took time off to have a family after Monster and then had to work her way back in. Wage gap mumble mumble.
It’s OK. There are some interesting action scenes in the middle, the rest are pretty junk. The film really works though on the chemistry between Godot and Pine. I’d probably see it again if it would guarantee that they got more work.
Politics uber alles.
Where the hell does he live, Saudi Arabia? Because none of that is true in the US. In fact, it’s the exact opposite.
Disney has infected all of their enterprises with proggie politics. It can only go on for so long before it bites them in the ass monetarily. At some point, all of the conservative SE will just stop going to DisneyWorld and buying overpriced Disney crap for their kids.
Watching ESPN die has been very very entertaining.
There’s got to be an interesting story behind Disney’s political shift. Someday, someone will make a documentary out of it.
30 for 30: How We Ate Our Own
Given Walt’s beliefs, wasn’t it more of a “hiatus” than a “shift”?
I don’t know. I feel like it’s being overinterpreted by progs big time. I feel like it’s not really all that out there.
I agree. After the brain damage from being in orlando for three days wore off (mostly due to the humidity, i would rather live on mars than in Orlando) I came away with a greater respect for Disney. Their attention to detail on their product is astounding. The focus on making sure (even at those damn sky high prices) as many kids have a good time as possible is amazing. I did get “some” proggie shit but that was mostly Epcot and Animal Kingdom. And even then it was much more subdued than I had anticipated.
So woke
Maybe it will be enough to revitalize the worst franchise Pixar has.
I know, right? I love the Pixar stuff generally and yet I’ve only seen “Cars” once and have avoided the sequels entirely.
People who use stative verbs in the progressive aspect should be shot in the back of the head, execution-style, and buried in a mass grave.
+10 Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, their heroes…
10-nation Europe study: ‘Immigration has been good for your country’ – Elite 57%, Public 25%.
I’ll take Polls that won’t show up on that “Other Site” for $400, Alex.
They may do a poll to see what Millenials think.
Nick did an interview with some author about how college age millenials don’t care about freedom. And how it’s a result of parenting and schools. It was a refreshing (and depressing) departure.
But they do care about freedom. They just expect that their dear benevolent will order them to do exactly what they want to do anyway, while crushing those deplorable rednecks.
Ford Focus to Become a Chinese Import for U.S. Buyers in 2019
Unintended Consequences for $800 Alex.
The lefto-sphere is saying this is a massive failure for Trump because they’re not moving production to another US plant. I guess they want every new car out there to cost over $20,000 since production here is insanely high relative to what it is in China.
I don’t really care. I drive all Nissan products built in the USA. But not everything can be built here lest we want poor people to never have a car after Obama spiked the secondary market with Cash For Clunkers.
Didnt they whine about trump trying to keep in US? And say any decision wasnt due to him?
Cash for Clunkers, and what it did to the used car market, still really pisses me off.
That’s no joke brother. Really fucked things up for a lot of people I know here.
Pretty sure you can still pick up a Chevrolet or base Honda that is manufactured in the USA for under $20K. My Honda Fit, easily under $20K, was manufactured in Japan, which to me was just as good.
The Honda HRV my wife is looking at is under 25K and that’s an SUV. I’m thinking that due to automation, the mfg cost in the USA has gone down. I remember people working at GM making $25 an hour with overtime and double overtime 20+ years ago for totally unskilled positions. Lots of automation now that did not exist back then.
You can thank all the innovation introduced by those car manufacturers in Iowa.
Sorry, I love that argument.
Im working in a steel mill that supplies the auto industry. The number of unskilled labor jobs has been dropping for a long time. Most of the full time employees here have a set of skills that is not easily replaced. All the unskilled labor is outsourced through a temp agency.
I used to work in an Ohio auto parts plant that had absorbed a lot of employees from the now-defunct GM plant in Moraine. Some of the stories were unbelievable. One woman told me that every position on the assembly line had a backup – that is, a person who just stood nearby and filled in when the regular person went to the restroom or took breaks. I don’t mean there was one person who would act as a floater and jump in if someone left; I mean there was literally double the necessary workforce.
You’d have thought people would have figured out that a job in a place like Moraine was a dead-end job and there’d be no place else to go.
Ford Locust sounds like it will be plagued with trouble.
Focus! Focus, man!
They named a car, locust? Say it isn’t so. I thought everyone is going to go the Euro model of just using letters and numbers?
Interesting discussion on yesterday’s PM Links about Cuck/Hotwifing. A bunch of y’all sound like a bunch of Victorian squares 😉
I like steampunk roleplay, if that’s what you mean.
*adjusts monocle, begins polite applause*
Space: 1889.
So you fly around in airships with lots of brass on them while having sex? Sorry, I don’t get it, total square I guess.
I think the appeal is the subtle aroma of Brasso, pomade and snuff, and the frisson of linen underwear.
NTTAWWT.
I guess I need to catch up on old threads.
Phelps is going to race a shark? Better than Mayweather/McGregor.
Better than Mayweather/McGregor.
Pretty low bar you set there.
Maybe Phelps should race Mayweather and McGregor should fight a shark?
Now, that I’d pay to see!
I would also pay to watch McGregor fight a shark. Makes it so.
Australian surfer fights shark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anhRxIQutZ8
RE: Ossoff losing – Keep the prog tears coming!
This year is the gift that keeps on giving.
Progressives i noticed are nasty and miserable folks. Do people with proggie friends understand why?
I know a couple who are both college professors – they are really nice people to hang out with, provided you steer clear of politics. We got out for drinks and dinner every few months. Once they get on Trump or Republicans, I crack a bad joke and quickly move on to another subject.
But, like moths to the flame, they can’t help themselves and keep returning to the same subject – politics. It must be misery for them to be “out of power”. Heck they thought Obama was this wonderful guy which makes me sick to my stomach.
Yea i have noticed they are obsessed with politics. That is their whole life
Also notice progs see themselves as superior beings and enjoy viewing these identity groups as inferior and victim
“Also notice progs see themselves as superior beings and enjoy viewing these identity groups as inferior and victim”
It’s funny to see the “victim” groups of the left turn against their progressive elitist masters. Now the victim groups within the victim groups are turning against their majority. The Droste effect of politics.
They’re all competing to be the only one left for the Grievance Quickening.
At which point they are shocked to realize that the individual is the smallest minority, and libertarians were right all along.
Then their head explodes.
I’m not saying “all progs are basket case shitshows” but in my personal life, of the people I know who are basketcase shitshows, there’s one Trump voter, 4 apolitical, and 5 hardcore progs. Like, “ZOMG RUSSIA FOR REAL” type progs.
I know one who is running for a state legislature seat, despite the fact that his personal life, particularly his personal finances are an utter train wreck. Like, he’s on the verge of bankruptcy, has 10 credit cards that he just bounces debt around on, liens and garnishments out the ass. Dude can’t run his own life, so of course he feels uniquely qualified to run other people’s lives.
I bet he feels that he has been screwed by the system, so he needs to run for office to “fix” the system. I wager his own bad choices don’t enter into his thinking; it’s all just a rigged game and “bad luck”.
I know at least two politicians who are total failures in business. Politics was their last resort, where they could always spend more than they brought in and still stay afloat.
Both are Republicans by the way.
Holy shit… you just described a few progressives I have the misfortune of knowing.
The only progressives I know are basket cases.
Dude can’t run his own life, so of course he feels uniquely qualified to run other people’s lives.
Projection and progressives go hand in hand.
All the proggies I know moved out to the coasts after college. They seem to work 3 hours a week and spend the rest of their time traveling the world. All while complaining about how poor they are. My assumption is mommy and daddy are still financing their endeavors. I’m in my early thirties so this has been going on for 10 plus years for these people.
Yes! And right after talking about their trips to Europe and Vancouver, they complain about how conservatives don’t believe in global warming.
You should inquire about what they think their carbon footprint is doing to Gaia.
Follow it up with “how can I take someone seriously complaining about man-caused global warming from a person that has the carbon footprint of an entire Chinese village?”
Oh, I never miss that chance. They just look sheepish and guilty for a minute and mumble something about their new Prius and the solar panels on their roof.
I’ve tried this. They invariably lie and say that they purchase carbon offset credits.
Because I am evil, I ask which company they buy them from. I get answers like “oh, you know AL Gore” and then I say “but what name do you write on the check?” Then they usually admit they don’t do any of that. And they don’t bug me about recycling etc. any more.
“Progressives i noticed are nasty and miserable folks. Do people with proggie friends understand why?”
It’s the progressives you don’t notice that make good friends and lovers.
“Do people with proggie friends understand why?”
I no longer have any proggie friends due to the fact that they cannot shut up about politics for 5 minutes while at the same time cannot discuss politics with anyone without getting mad.
It’s because they have a totally untenable view of the world which they believe that by mere projection, they can make come into being.
They cannot come to accept that they cannot do that, and that everyone else does not want the same. The next frustration is because they cannot force everyone else to want the same. Then, sour grapes, all the time.
They’re like toddlers to put it simply.
Having married a progressive democrat (who actually is a libertarian but doesn’t know it), I think I can give some insight.
The proggie foot-soldier is motivated by a childlike desire for bad things not to happen. They want the sick to be cared for. They want people who work hard to not get stiffed. They want people who have kids not to have to worry about them getting bullied. They want those kids educated well regardless of how poor their parents might be. They want no child to suffer because of who their parents are. They want the fuzzy and cudly animals to thrive and flourish rather than being extinguished. They want nature protected and made nice. They want everything to be safe. They want people’s lives to be as stress free as possible.
They are, in short, trying to recreate the carefree days of childhood.
Now, the proggressive politicians are a different animal. Some are naive like the foot soldiers. Most are panderers who promise to give the foot soldiers the stress free lives the foot-soldiers desire in exchange for power. The panderers are occasionally motivated by avarice (eg Hillary Clinton). Some are tyrants who really really want to control people (Diane Feinstein). Some are racists who hate the outgroup and want to hurt them (Michael Bloomberg). Some are narcissists who crave adulation (Obama).
Now as to why the proggie foot-soldiers are so angry. Remember, they want the care-free days of childhood. And if you disagree with them, that means you want to introduce stress and suffering into people’s lives. That makes them very angry because you are blocking them from happiness. Having been pandered to, they think they deserve to be pandered to (i.e. that the things they want to see happen are just, and moral, and reasonable). When you disagree with them, or stand in the way of the policies they are told are good, you appear to them as a horrible person kicking over the applecart and ruining it for everyone. And that’s why they hate you.
That’s pretty good and a good explanation for why having the “right” intentions, regardless of results, is all that matters for them.
Yeah, but not wanting to grow up and deal with an unforgiving world that doesn’t care about your desire to be an adult and deal with the stresses of that, should automatically disqualify you from making any sort of decision that affects others. If anything, we should tell these people that they are disqualified on the premise that wanting to revert to the safety of the womb or their child years, leaves them woefully unable to make adult decisions.
When I first met my now wife, she thought I was a racist because I opposed affirmative action. She couldn’t understand that I opposed it because the concept and application were both racist and an impediment to moving beyond racism.
But racism can only come from honkeys!
You’d think that simply pointing out that scarcity exists would point them in the right direction. Both ideologues and pragmatists can reach liberty that way.
Not really.
One of the central defining characteristics of the progressive foot soldier is that they do not think, they emote. when you take a person whose political beliefs are utterly separated from logic and entirely driven by emotion and instill in them a desire for bad things to be prevented at all costs then it makes liberty itself the enemy because liberty is inherently chaotic and in that chaos bad things are allowed to happen.
“Do people with proggie friends understand why?”
I think it would be easier to explain why alchemists believed they could turn lead to gold than to explain proggie think…
I just want to say Happy Birthday to EDG reppin’ LBC.
Happy birthday, brother! Keep that rocks glass filled all day.
That really is the best way to deal with birthdays.
Happy Bday EDG!
Thanks slammer. Rock on!
Shit, man. Happy Birthday!
Happy birthday, EDG!
In your honor.
Thanks! My Spotify daily mix played Robert Pollard and XTC back to back this morning. I knew it was going to be a good day.
Thanks, Sloop. Here is a video featuring nefarious cocktails, androgynous singers, and oh, so much more. https://youtu.be/ww-f4glTOdw
“Jon Ossoff will be happy that he’s represented by a Democrat in the US Congress.”
The government needs more money for stuff! So let’s throw away 30 million to elect a guy who will steal more of our money. Greatest con ever.
From Instapundit guest blogger:
Elementary school textbooks cost $100 each?
Witness the efficiency of the public education system!
Only the cheap ones.
You wouldn’t want kids learning outdated math would you?
Bad math, it could have bought over 8 million school lunches!
I dont think there is anything interesting about espn going full prog. The progs have so deluded themselves of their own self righteousness and convincing themselves they have all the answers. Any counter to this causes them anguish…they would rather double down instead of reflecting and cutting their losses since it is easier
One of the funnier things about it is idiots progsplaining that it has nothing to do with politics, it’s all about the social media killing their highlights niche. It has nothing to do with pushing The Undefeated and all the wimminz sportz programming, it has nothing to do with cheerleading the NCAA and NBA boycotting states for Bathrooms of Hate laws. Nothing at all. Then they fired a shitload of people and what do you know? The outspoken conservatives are all on the layoff list but the progs are safe. Crazy.
Is it Iowahawk that says “Kill it, wear the skins, strut around?”
Identify a respected institution. 2. kill it. 3. gut it. 4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect. #lefties.
– David Burge
Since I haven’t seen any mention of this, here y’all go. RIP Prodigy
I thought you were talking about the dial-up internet service.
I don’t even know what that is.
The successor to Compuserve and predecessor to AOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNxKg6ZXax8
Yeah, I’m old.
I was 3 years old in 1990 and was probably more into Hot Wheels than the Internet.
GET OFF MY LAWN!
I miss Hihn talking about the good old days when the net was young.
SPEAK NOT THE NAME OF HI&N! Lest you summon him hence!
HIHNCE
I can only imagine his Usenet newsgroup rants.
BULLIES!!
Nobody told him it was actually an etch-a-sketch.
Usenet? I think it’s more likely he was posting political tracts and indexing them with Gopher and Archie.
I thought I was old.
Only compared to sentient life forms. Once compared to geological landforms, you’re just a kid, kid.
I can only imagine his telegraph rants.
.. dit dit dit DOT dit DIT DOT DIT DIT DIT DIT!
I once wrote a computer program with all zeros…
*slow clap*
Liam Howlett died?
I think he was crusty’s favorite rapper.
Acclaimed Palestinian writer can’t distinguish between an actor and a character.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/06/imperial-feminism-woman-170613101125222.html
That was an awful lot of words to just hiss “Jeeewwwwww!”
Some further tidbits on the Handel/Ossoff election:
Jon Ossoff reported three times as many donations from SF Bay Area than Georgia in two months
Handel was also outspent 7-1.
something money something out of politics
He’s the right’s messiah.
I’m sure they will find some way to blame Citizens United.
Russians are the new Citizens United
RUSSIAN CITIZENS UNITED!
MUH VOTE TALLIES!
Yeah, I think ELECTORAL COLLEGE!!! is the new Citizens United for the Dems.
Hillary out spent trump 2 to 1
AND SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE, SHITLORD!
Somebody play a sad trombone for the folks at CNN.
https://twitter.com/Pamela_Moore13/status/877343178537353217/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanthinker.com%2Fblog%2F2017%2F06%2Fsome_people_hate_trump_more_people_hate_liberals.html
LOL
They’re the ones that made it a “high-stakes” election.
I just wanted to give credit to whichever great mind(s) decided to have the World Series of Poker Senior Event and Electric Daisy Carnival over the same weekend in Las Vegas. And the 110+ degree temperatures made for some great wardrobe watching (that’s at EDC-goers, not the poker event.)
My wife was at the bank the other day and noticed that the teller’s name tag said: STEVE SMITH
FREE TOASTER IF YOU OPEN ACCOUNT, AND BY “TOASTER” STEVE SMITH MEAN RAPE
STEVE SMITH HAS DAY JOB, NEEDS TO PAY BILLS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
STEVE SMITH MAKE DEPOSIT IN HIKERS, KEEP SOME IN VAULT AS FRACTIONAL RESERVES
STEVE SMITH LOVE comPOUND INTEREST!!
STEVE SMITH TAKE DEPOSIT, MAKE OWN DEPOSIT IN EXCHANGE
’tis a true story. She said: “I had a hard time not asking him do you know who STEVE SMITH is?”
Which would, of course, only get her a strange look. “Me?”
YOU KNOW WHO ELSE IS STEVE SMITH???!!!
ANSWER ALWAYS HITLER. NOW, STEVE SMITH HAVE HYPOTHETICAL: IF HIM HAVE TIME TRAVEL MACHINE, WOULD HIM GO BACK IN TIME TO RAPE HITLER?
Maybe he did and that is what gave us Hitler
STEVE SMITH CAUSE WW2, BORROWED WARTY”S TIME MACHINE AND GO BACK IN TIME. MET MRS HITLER WHILE THERE> AND BY MET MEAN RAPE
“YOU KNOW WHO ELSE IS STEVE SMITH???!!!”
The ‘Glibertarian comment singularity’ has been achieved
“Funny….you don’t look like a Rapesquatch?”
STEVE SMITH RAPE NOT AS BAD AS WHEN BANK RAPE YOU.
Can someone explain this whole Steve Smith rapesquatch thing?
STEVE SMITH IS. STEVE SMITH IS RAPESQUATCH.
In all seriousness check out this from That Other Site
Ah. That’s pretty funny.
jesus h tapdancing christ that was a long time ago.
Look at some of the names:
Art-POG, Erjecto, Dagny,
/runs off sobbing for lost youth.
María Gabriela Chávez was unavailable for comment.
I found an even more retarded ass story here:
https://itsgoingdown.org/olympia-wa-evergreen-gives-warm-welcome-patriot-prayer/
But you probably shouldn’t try reading it.
Maybe they never stopped putting lead into paint after all.
I tried reading it, but I couldn’t. I got as far as this:
It wasn’t till 6:30ish that patriot prayer and their fashy fans arrived waving the usual arrangement of american flags, don’t tread on me flags, and a pepe flag. A confrontation pretty immediately ensued between the two groups. Patriot Prayer and the fash got plenty of silly string and air horns blown in their ears, Joey Gibson got glittered pretty bad, having something thrown at him slicing open his face, and allegedly getting pepper sprayed. Talk shit, get hit, Jojo.
Is blowing an air horn in someone’s ear assault?
I’ve never had it happen, but I imagine it would hurt and cause damage.
Also silly string? Are they 12?
I have to admit, this was witty and led to a sensible chuckle:
“A confrontation pretty immediately ensued between the two groups.”
Nice passive voice. It means the antfags assaulted peaceful protesters.
They forgot the part about socialism.
Stop being fat!!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3843785/bad-news-ladies-men-pile-on-the-pounds-after-saying-i-do-weighing-in-more-than-two-stone-heavier-than-single-lads/
Good thing women don’t pile on the pounds after marriage.
*widens gaze*
Is that so you can see all of her?
The URL and the image captions say two stone but the headline and the article say two pounds, which doesn’t sound all that much.
Well which is it??? I would have expected much better consistency and clarity from The Sun.
> I would have expected much better consistency and clarity from The Sun.
Now that’s some understated, dry, British-like comedy.
Or at least a large rack with a bad pun as a headline.
Over what time period? Because it’s not unreasonable that a guy at 27 who clocked in at 160 pounds is pushing 190 by age 50 after 20 years of being a desk jockey and faced with a slowing metabolism and not having to cruise clubs on the weekends. Probably not healthy, but not a shocker or a crisis.
Just when you thought the Salon writer had found peak derp, along comes the comments section:
And there you have it. I challenge you to find derpier derp than that derp.
No True Scotsman
*EDIT FAIRY FLUTTERS BY*
EDIT FAIRY!
SCOTMAN!! The new kilt-wearing, bagpiping, hard-drinking, claymore-wielding superhero!
Who always sticks you with the tab.
Aye! I was gaen to fit crime todae, boot it’s drinkin’ hour.
With his fearful battle-cry:
“Pick a fookin’ winduh. Yoo’ar leavin’!”
I note the post is completely devoid of a reference to curry.
Scots – particularly Glaswegians – have their own, far more disastrous cuisine than curry.
Mutton pies, deep fried candy bars; ScotsMan’s biggest nemesis is chronic arterial plaque,
Now, Millwall Man would be a far more entertaining challenge. he’d have a neutronium stud in the center of his forehead to ‘nut’ his enemies.
Speaking of Glaswegians, maybe Scotman has a pair of knives to leave people with a Glasgow Smile.
Southerners exported state fair food to Scotland?
Well, headbutting someone on the bridge of the nose is actually termed a ‘Gorbals Kiss’ – after one particularly disreputable part of Glasg’ae. And the Glasgow Smile (and how it’s done right) was admirably demonstrated in the movie “The Krays” – a pretty good movie if you’re somewhat interested in the inspiration for Monty Python’s “Doug and Dinsdale Piranha” characters. FWIW, I had family that knew the Krays. Typically administered with a single blade, like a broken cavalry sword, slipped down the leg o’ yer trous.
Southerners in the US are frequently from Scots-Irish stock, so anything that clogs your arteries is likely to be from the Scots side, and anything that tastes of potato comes from the Irish side.
But (as of 20 years ago) Scotland had objectively the worst diet of all members of the EEC. Forget ‘daily recommended portions’ and the food pyramid, the raw mortality data supported it. And if that didn’t convince you, experiencing a real mutton pie in its natural surroundings would convince you.
Imagine living on White Castle, but with no flavor, or onion rings. Forever.
Here’s my entry from the Castile shooting:
According to interviews, the officer smelled marijuana when he got to the open window of the car.
They found a bag of marijuana in the car.
Castile was as much at fault as Yanez for what happened.
If Castile didn’t attempt to pull his gun, I have a hard time seeing justification for the shooting.
I keep thinking if he was going to shoot, why would he notify the cop he was carrying?
He foolishly thought it might keep the cop from panic-shooting if the cop noticed he had a gun. Surprise! Nothing can keep a cop from panic-shooting.
Never challenge anyone to find something with more derp. That’s a losing bet.
Literal Trigger Warning
They released the video of Philando Castile’s shooting
What a panicky POS
Yup. Fucking pussy.
Yup. Can’t tell how fucking chicken shit the officer is.
If they can’t fire him (FOP!FOP!FOP!) they should at least make sure his panicky ass is off the street.
There’s a reason Andy never let Barney Fife load his gun.
here’s a reason Andy never let Barney Fife load his gun.
We have a winner!
Yanez left that police department in some sort of amicable agreement, which will in no way hinder him from moving one town over and being given a badge there.
The real problem is a police leadership that can’t recognize that their training and enforcement is leading to this kind of interaction. They are supporting this guy’s decisions to advance and step into the line of fire in a moment of uncertainty, creating the “split second decision”. If they had instead focused on his conduct prior to the shooting and come out saying that he should have retreated to the rear passenger window or B pillar and instructed the driver to place his hands on the wheel, they might have a little more sympathy from me.
But instead they choose to focus on a panicky 2 seconds where he makes some irrational leaps based on his fears and jabs his gun into the driver’s window and starts panic firing.
As long as the police keep framing these issues as “what was the officer thinking at the exact second they pulled the trigger” they are never going to get around to fixing the problem. (at the same time, as long as the #BLM crowd keeps harping that police shootings are down to racism, they are never going to achieve anything)
This guy is not guilty of murder. The moment he pulled the trigger is as they said, a mistake. But the moments before that are a slam dunk for negligent homicide – or involuntary manslaughter, depending on the state. He created a deadly situation out of his own actions, having nothing to do with the driver. Had he followed proper procedures up until the fatal moment, he wouldn’t have been in a position to panic fire.
Everyone involved needs to get a grip. Surely these FOP guys and police chiefs have families. They have to be thinking “what if this idiot had pulled over my teenage son?” At some point they have to stop being in full-time defensive “team” mode and start trying to address the real problems, right? Please tell me they are eventually going to figure that out…..
They did the same thing with Tamir Rice, focused on the last two seconds, and completely ignored what led up to that moment.
You just made a fantastic argument for eliminating 90% of the government.
Which is why I hang out in the nutty corner of the libertarians. Which is the nutty corner of the internet. Funny thing is, from where I sit, the nutty fringe of the nutty fringe are the only folks talking sense. I still have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that we have come to a place where “live and let live” is a radical idea in the United States of America.
It would also be a little more meaningful if they don’t chant the “totality of the circumstances” mantra while they’re focusing on just one brief moment. They don’t even know what their own bullshit means.
Guy had no business being a cop. Doesn’t fit the narrative that the cops are hunting blacks, either. So the public will be split down the middle, with both sides being mostly wrong.
Tesla car battery production releases as much CO2 as 8 years of gasoline driving.
Does it still release the proper virtue signals?
Of course!
Even without factoring in batteries, all the steel production required to make a new car of any sort emits as much CO2 as driving around an old beater for about a decade.
Exactly.
Yup
You really want to save the earth? keep driving that perfectly functional 2006 corolla. Repair things when needed.
Kia, that is all
Subaru.
oh yeah. 2003 Forrester
Yeah. I work in a steel mill that’s makes steel specifically for the auto industry. We are running 2 arc furnaces at 50 megawatts each 24/7. That and the billett reheat furnace with 22 1 million BTU natural gas burners that also runs 24/7. Add that to the power used to run 15 500hp motors in the rolling mill and even more gas in the heat treat furnaces.
We use a shit ton of energy to make steel.
I bet the Chinese don’t pass all the exhaust from a blast furnace thru’ a CO2 scrubber either. Monsters!
We have a giant bag house that filters the exhaust from out arc furnaces. You should see the motors that run the fans that provide the suction. Two 4160 volt 2000hp 3 phase electric motors driving a fan that moves 2 million CFH of air through the filter system. I’d hate to know what it costs just to run those motors.
That is truly BadAss
Do you manage to scavenge any useful heat from them, ‘cos that’s a fuckload of hot air you’re venting there.
yes. There is a massive heat exchanger that preheats the combustion air that feeds the natural gas burners for the billett reheat furnace. The air that mixes with the natural gas inside the burners is usually around 700 degrees pre ignition.
I fuckin’ LOVE large-process engineering.
I know. I’m a perv.
Not to forget the offices have air conditioning, too.
That’s one of the retarded things about cash for clunkers. Manufacturing cars takes energy, and almost all that energy is from burning fossil fuel.
Unless they are using nuclear to generate the electricity that powers these electric cars, they are also continuing to push out CO2. This green shit has never been about anything other than helping special interests and friends of the left make oodles of money peddling crap that otherwise would have never made it to market on its own value.
In other Tesla news.
I guess all those years at Apple make for a bad vaporware developer…
Not so fast…
In a long-awaited article published this week in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences — the same journal in which Professor Jacobson’s manifesto appeared — a group of 21 prominent scholars, including physicists and engineers, climate scientists and sociologists, took a fine comb to the Jacobson paper and dismantled its conclusions bit by bit.
“I had largely ignored the papers arguing that doing all with renewables was possible at negative costs because they struck me as obviously incorrect,” said David Victor of the University of California, San Diego, a co-author of the new critique of Professor Jacobson’s work. “But when policy makers started using this paper for scientific support, I thought, ‘this paper is dangerous.’”
The conclusion of the critique is damning: Professor Jacobson relied on “invalid modeling tools,” committed “modeling errors” and made “implausible and inadequately supported assumptions,” the scholars wrote. “Our paper is pretty devastating,” said Varun Sivaram from the Council on Foreign Relations, a co-author of the new critique.
I, for one, am shocked. SHOCKED, I say. Lying, in Climate
ScienceAdvocacy? Inconceivable.“invalid modeling tool”
80’s new wave dirt-bar band name?
Commonly seen CAD error message?
Less likely lying, and more likely just incompetent in the modeling procedure used.
Can’t it be both? Because that is very likely what happened there..
Robert Mueller has hired another liberal Democrat for his
witch-huntinvestigation.most importantly, we can’t feel officer Yanez’s fear
How many of his co-workers and supervisors knew precisely how much of a panicky pussy coward he is, but declined, for reasons of “professional courtesy” to do anything about it (like make him a meter maid, if not run him the fuck off the police force completely)?
That guy in the passenger seat felt it as he got shot full of holes.
“GA-06 will be represented by Karen Handel, who absolutely smoked him last night and made everybody from Nate Silver to all the other pollsters that had her chances of winning well below 50%.”
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It’s a mother fucking mandate! A MANDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
“ha, “
“ha”?
Well here’s the thing. That was a test. I posted a comment regarding the Ossoff loss and it didn’t take. Odd that.
“ha!”
Ah?
A-ha?
Someone’s lighting the Morton Harket-shaped grail to summon Kristen!
Yeah my wife has the hots for him too – at any age.
Yeah, Kristen was drooling here yesterday(?) about Mags, the keyboardist.
Hah?
Harrumph!
Hate to be like P Brooks, but this deserves its own top-level post. From above:
From an interview Ossoff held with NPR yesterday
Why do I suspect that is total bullshit?
Also, what fucking difference does it make. Money is money.
Passing money in small installments makes it pure, unless it’s with the intention of avoiding reporting requirements to the IRS.
From CA, not Georgia.
Because it is? This guy got some 20 million from Hollywood and Martha’s Vineyard proggies… That was not going to be small amount donations, unless you define small amounts very differently when it comes from loaded leftist special interests.
What a perfect outcome! A large amount of wealth was transferred from San Francisco and Hollywood to Georgia. And, the Democrats lost.
Winning.
That is one awesome victory IMO…
::tap dancing to the tune of The Entertainer::
That reminded me of Rick James ” I wouldn’t dig my feet into another man’s couch, I got more sense than that!…Yeah I remember digging my feet into Eddie Murphy’s couch.”
“Cocaine is a helluva drug!”
Fuck yo couch!
Oh no! The wrong kind of illegals are being deported!
ICE bust puts Boston’s illegal Irish on edge
Aren’t all Irish illegal to some degree or another?
Reflexive English reaction, “oh fuck yeah”.
Hey now…
But NOT the Irish!
They’re called “Paddy Wagons” for a reason.
I think the Irish are mostly commies now, like the rest of Europe.
Interestingly, IIRC Ireland was in hot water with the EU for a little while because they had lowered their corporate taxes to encourage business to set up shop there.
Raiding all the poteen speakeasies and corned beef and cabbage trucks along the old Post Road.
Huh, I didn’t know we had a problem with the Irish sneaking in.
Back in the 80’s and 90’s, South Boston was full of illegal mics right off the boat – and into the gutter. Now that they are gentrifying the crap out of Southie, they probably want to clear them out to free up valuable real estate.
I’ll take, “Things which are plainly obvious” for $1000.-, Alex.
Researchers are just beginning to explore how climate change affects aviation and planes’ ability to fly. Because there is so little data available and so many factors at play — aircraft design, airport size and location, the weight of passengers and cargo, to name just a few — it can be hard to attribute any one service disruption to global warming.
Depending on their locations, airports may experience the effects differently. High-altitude airports like Denver have thinner air by nature, so lift is even more affected by higher temperatures.
Nobody has any idea how these contraptions perform under varying atmospheric conditions! Planes will fall outta the sky!
As they spew icky fossil fuels
More like, how can we connect our money to that sweet, sweet Grant money?
Seriously, climate science is fairly new, and the idea that we would have enough data and good enough models to make predictions on it’s effects on flight is just ridiculous. The obvious explanation is that it’s just scientists trying to connect their stress so study to something that they can get funded.
It requires more power to generate enough lift to take off in hotter air. But most jets have more than enough power to take off even under the hottest conditions.
Watch them demand we create wind powered airplanes…
Technically aren’t all Jets wind powered?
Sure they burn a ton of fuel to make that air go fast but Air itself is the propellant
I get that, but I guess I was has m getting at, can we really predict how this the air would be and those exact effects on future aircraft.
Much more government funded modeling?
You’d think scientists would understand that PV= nRT, so that as the Temperature rises for a given Volume of Air, so too must the pressure. If we assume (and of course, this is a crazy ideal assumption, much like their climate modeling) that other variables are relatively constant for a commercial aircraft, the air pressure increase should result in more lift, requiring less surface area for a plane body and wings, thus offsetting the drag increase from said pressure increase. So, basically, over the long run, it would become a wash.
The air is not confined in a closed container, so it can freely expand as it heats up, resulting in less dense air and less lift.
That is why my assumptions were of constants. Plus it neatly illustrates the fallacy that even a smart person can easily model the real world through the use of theory, and have it work exactly according to the model at all times.
The science is settled!!
Arizona closed their airport … literally yesterday … because of this.
This discussion isn’t theoretical, lol?
That assumes a constant volume.
Well, I assumed that volume was a constantly cis-normative, racist shitlord, so it should stay consistently constant.
Depends on what kind of scientists we’re talking about. Traditionally trained physicist – sure. Engineering scientist? Absoulutely. Materials scientist? Sure, if you gave him a 10 minute refresher on basic fluidics. Social scientist? Whaaaa?
Given that many of those ‘scientists’ who ‘support Global Warming’ and represent the bulk of ‘the consensus about AGW’ and who are quite prepared to be shocked when they discover elementary truisms about aerodynamics – happen to be closer to ‘social scientists’ than ‘actual scientists’. And just about all of them have even less appreciation of how you construct a falsifiable experiment and manage the statistical treatment of the data that is collected.
*adjusts seersucker sport coat to hook his thumbs around his suspenders/braces*
Now, I’m just a simple country linguist, so I don’t know much ’bout your big-city fluid dynamics, but I know after 20 years of Microsoft Flight Simulator that if I fiddle with the starting conditions, I need to be aware of the length of the runway.
Hey if it is too complex for the NFL to understand how can you expect these mere scientists to understand it?
TX couple finally freed from witch hunt after 25 years
Good thing they’ve moved these witch hunts to college campuses, now they can get the witches before they’re set loose on the public at large.
Damn that’s insane… *shakes head*
There won’t be justice until the witchhunters spend time behind bars.
Bingo. This kind of thing is going to keep on happening because there’s no punishment. Just look at this. The cops flat-out invent a crime, a family’s life is destroyed, and the cops… just move on. They don’t even face any punishment at work, let alone monetary or legal punishment.
So what incentive is there for cops not to do that? Besides a conscience, which we’ve already established is something that most cops don’t have.
Their intentions were pure!
Well, if you consider personal aggrandizement in the pursuit of political power pure, maybe.
Procedures were followed.
I also blame the jury. The claims in the McMartin preschool case were flat-out ridiculous. If I remember correctly, one of the defendants used witchcraft to fly through the air.
“From there, the number of children alleging abuse increased and the accusations grew even more lurid and confounding: The Kellers had sacrificed babies; they held ceremonies in a local graveyard; they put blood in the children’s Kool-Aid; Fran cut off the arm of a gorilla in a local park; they flew the children to Mexico to be sexually assaulted by military officials.”
So then where are the parents of these sacrificed babies, and this one-armed gorilla?
They deserved to be convicted because of the seriousness of the charges!
(Isn’t that how it works?)
Yes mean Yes says yes
Interesting, the prosecutor that went after them is Rosemary Lehmberg, famous for her DWI rant and getting fired/forced out by Rick Perry.
That certainly doesn’t sound like the sort of thing a child would invent.
But a therapist with an axe to grind or career to augment….
It’s absolutely the sort of lunacy a kid would invent at the behest of a therapist. The fact that officers and prosecutors bought into it is… telling.
You idiots were duped by a kid! You wouldn’t have believed this shit coming from the therapist ex nihilo, but put into the mouth of a child, it’s suddenly a credible narrative?? What the fuck is wrong with you!?
They found a bag of marijuana in the car.
Castile was as much at fault as Yanez for what happened.
Summary execution for marijuana possession?
Sounds legit.
From the interview with the murder-y cop, it sounds like that’s exactly what he thought was just.
Because smoking a joint is exactly the same as shooting someone.
He’s a modern paladin, keeping the realm safe from the morally weak.
Really you had that complex and incoherent thought right there? It wasn’t because total cost be you came up with after the fact to make your murdering ass look better?
Jesus Christ. Fuck that fucking coward. Fuck.
Sad as it is, one of the things I hear a lot around here is the argument that the cop fucked up, but Castile was also guilty because he was too stoned to comply correctly.
So they were both wrong. Now can’t we move on?
From what I understand, Castile was given directions that would ensure that a pants-shitting cop would freak out to.
To be sure
As global temperatures continue to rise, some of the heaviest planes on the longest flights may eventually be unable to depart during the hottest part of summer days, Dr. Horton said.
That’s it, then. We’re doooooomed.
GAME OVER, MAN! GAME OVER!
Ah so weather is climate now
Only if it confirms leftist biases.
Phoenix in summer mid day is hot? Like no way!
Obligatory
Yeah. There’s like no way to adjust schedules to avoid departures during a certain part of the day in certain locations.
And, naturally, the problem of planes needing more lift/thrust to fly in hotter weather just cannot be solved with areonautical engineering.
Designing wings with greater lift and engines with greater thrust is not going to heal Gaia, shitlord!
If only we taxed carbon climate change would be stopped!
Because Dubai doesn’t already have the busiest airport in the world or anything…
Sounds like one more small piece of negative feedback is being ignored.
Does that disturb you? What does it say about our political culture?
“Of course it disturbs me. If those evil goddam Republikkins would just stop running against us, we wouldn’t have to spend so much on election campaigns. There oughtta be a law.”
You just made Chuck Schumer’s nipples hard.
“Judicial Watch today announced that the National Security Council (NSC) on May 23, 2017, informed it by letter that the materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” have been removed to the Obama Library.
“Documents from the Obama administration have been transferred to the Barack Obama Presidential Library. You may send your request to the Obama Library. However, you should be aware that under the Presidential Records Act, Presidential records remain closed to the public for five years after an administration has left office.””
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obama-nsc-advisor-susan-rices-unmasking-material-obama-library/
Remember that old saw “it is the coverup that gets you?” Yeah…. not gonna apply here.
It only gets you if there is a media willing to vigorously pursue it and your own party is willing to hold you accountable.
And these people bank on that to get away with criminal activity…
I looked at the statute yesterday. The NSC response is gibberish. The requests aren’t “Presidential records” that get a five year moratorium from FOIA. If they are, then by law they are federal property and sending them to the library makes no difference and they likely don’t qualify for the moratorium because the specific provision that might allow the feds to withhold them from a FOIA requests doesn’t apply to these kind of records.
Of course it doesn’t. It was a transparent move to shut down any opposition. And it will work, because it would take most of the 5 years to litigate the matter, even if your pockets were deep enough to handle the legal bills. And then they could stall with “we can’t find anything” maneuvers until magically something happens and they are lost. Like randomly having all of the hard drives related to an investigation crash. You know, things that never happen and are totally not some cover-up.
Blinded cop randomly fires shots during argument…
Professionalism
The only people who should be allowed to own a gun.
Here is there justification:
Woody added that someone using pepper spray is likely “trying to subdue” the target, which could put an armed off-duty officer at risk of having their weapon taken.
Blindly firing will prevent that?
When you empty the weapon, it turns into a small club.
Hey even Superman was afraid of the empty gun. He’d always stand there chest pumped out watching the bullets bounce off his chest, but then when they threw the empty gun at him, then he ducked
Trump’s Canada! Ontario woman demands white doctor:
https://ca.yahoo.com/news/video-shows-woman-demand-apos-233223557.html
When will we learn? How can anything good ever happen without a good govt program to certify that all is well?
You know those piles of dead people outside hospitals and old folks homes? Yup, they were all caused because there is no official safety policy for therapy animals.
The study forgot to mention how many old people died of rabies after being bit by a dog with hydrophobia. Old Yeller hardest hit.
The therapy dog program is a joke. I was on a flight last week and a woman had a fucking bull mastiff as a therapy dog on the flight. A full sized mastiff. As she tugged on the damn thing to try to get it down the jetway, the guy next to me says loudly, “You have to be shitting me.” Guess who was sitting next to her on the flight…
Amen. I can’t believe the number of companion dogs I have seen on flights that are complete crocks of shit. Why don’t airlines set up a basic course in the screening area and if the dog can’t pass it, it has to be stored in the passenger hold?
A while back I had six flights in the course of a single week. Four of them had ‘service dogs’ on them. Only one of them looked legit.
It’s getting ridiculous.
That’s not a therapy dog, that’s an emotional support animal.
GF is a dog trainer, our younger dog is an actual, no shit therapy dog. He’s got his CGC and some other certs, and he visits hospitals, nursing homes, etc. Therapy dogs are for other people. They have to be trained so they won’t run around the room knocking into medical equipment, so they won’t get scared and eliminate onto a clean floor, so they’re used to canes, walkers, wheelchairs, gurneys, etc.
An emotional support animal is an essentially meaningless term IMO, used mostly by basket case snowflakes who want to drag their completely untrained dogs everywhere. They’re for the owner of the dog, and they’re almost completely bullshit.
Some people use the terms interchangeably, particularly the fucking snowflakes, because they suck and they want to conflate my pup who snuggles terminal kids and old people who can’t have a pet in their nursing home with their ill trained Chihuahua they want to drag around.
The selection and screening process to determine whether a given animal is even capable of training as a therapy dog isn’t simple either. We have a mutt that we put thru’ 8 ours of behavioral assessments before CT basically says “yeah, you can go get him trained”.
In the current environment, I would expect that certain breeds of dogs are (rightly or wrongly) eliminated straight away, and when you look at the dogs going thru’ training, they’re often German Shepherd, labs, border collies, or mixes that include them. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a therapy mastiff, or a therapy Jack Russell.
Yeah you need a dog that’s very friendly and very trainable, and in general you want one that’s somewhat docile or low energy. A Jack Russell jumping in a lap tearing IV lines out of a patient is not a good thing.
Ours is very friendly, very trainable, but also very high energy. He gets a nice long walk or a period of sprinting around the dog park before therapy visits, because it lets him be snugly and sweet without the craziness he can exhibit when he’s been cooped up.
My wife thinks it’s a wonderful scam.
When she went to the local Social Security Admin office, there was a very disturbed woman with a pomeranian. The pomeranian was wearing a jacket that said “Emotional Support Animal”. Pomeranians are pretty high strung and are not soothing. The dog was dragging this woman all over the waiting room.
My wife adores pomeranians and wants an emotional support pomeranian for herself. She thinks it’s the perfect scam to keep a dog with her at all times.
IN my experience, a Pom is more likely to NEED emotional support than provide it.
Legally, “emotional support animals” are pets. The only animals that you are legally required by the ADA to “accommodate” are actual service dogs and (in a brilliant piece of lobbying by the miniature horse people), miniature horses.
I don’t know why everyone acts as if “emotional support animals” have the same legal protection as guide dogs.
“Therapy animals” aren’t really a legal category – its something that hospitals, hospices, etc. put together as an entirely private/internal program.
However, we’ve found that a fair amount of latitude is given to therapy dogs in public places, presumably on the (reasonable) expectation that in some respects, they represent far lower risk of being a public nuisance.
We don’t put our dog ‘in uniform’ unless he’s on his way to- or from- an assignment, so the issue doesn’t arise often.
Those are not actual therapy dogs, they are claimed as “emotional support dogs” so people can get away with taking their pets on a flight in the passenger cabin. It gives actual therapy dogs a bad name because people don’t know the difference.
See, I’d like an emotional support ferret, because of the cool factor.
If I actually *needed* emotional support, I’d have a wolverine because it would remind me how to be badass.
I have claimed to have an emotional support hawk.
This was you wasn’t it?
You meant honey badger, didn’t you?
Honey Badger don’t care.
It would depend on the pungency of musk they emit.
True story:
We had someone in our ED waiting room. A nurse noticed something odd about her purse and asked about it. The woman said she brought her emotional support rats with her and opens the purse. Sure enough, there’s two white rats in there, who immediately bolt into the freakin’ hospital.
I saw one of those nincompoops in the grocery store a couple of weeks back. She had a little shih tzu with a “support animal” vest walking around in the grocery store.
To my eternal shame, I just rolled my eyes and moved on. I really wanted to loudly call her out on her ludicrous acts of selfishness, but social pressures and the desire to just get my errand accomplished and make it back on time derailed that impulse.
Have you noticed that people take their dogs into the grocery store all the time too, or is that just local to the white trash areas where I’ve tended to live?
Of the 4 big chain stores in my area, only one has it posted “No animals”, and they never enforce it. I routinely see people walking through the store with large breed dogs in tow. It’s not enough that their ill behaved half retarded children run around the store screaming like Michael Jackson is hot on their heels and running their snotty little hands over everything lower than crotch height, they gotta bring their fucking doberman with them too. Because it might get lonely sitting at their house for an hour.
I actually wouldn’t care if they would just train the fucking things (dogs and kids).
I have a lot more sympathy for the “we are just rednecks and that’s how we all roll around here” dog folk than the rich suburban “my precious little chihuahua has to be with me at all times because I’m so much better than you” princess.
It is just my own personal biases at work, but I’ve been in areas of the country where folks bring their animals to the local barbecue joint – heck, the owner keeps his dogs at the restaurant too. But that’s more of a “we are all rednecks and we don’t mind dogs running around where our food is” culture.
The other is more in the category of “I am a special snowflake and the rules don’t apply to me” sort of attitude. I’m quite sure that miss “support maltese” would be aghast if the Clampetts came walking in to her bikini boutique with three of their mixed hounds in tow.
True, they’re generally not malicious at least. And not dishonest. It’s not “Hey, don’t judge me, he’s my emotional support animal”. They just don’t understand why anybody wouldn’t want to share their dog owning experience with them.
I have never seen a dog in a grocery store, or even any retail store other than a pet store for that matter, and would probably be pretty annoyed if I did see one. Your animal is a walking health hazard, keep it at home or in the car.
The rich lefties I am surrounded by take their dogs absolutely every fucking where. Restaurants, mass transit, coffee shops, bars, the supermarket, doctor’s office…
Yeah. Head over to Boca Raton. Those little princesses are all over the place with their little dogs. What has changed is that instead of Paris Hilton style carriers, they often are just carrying the dog, and I have definitely spotted a couple of the “support animal” vests.
I don’t think I’m wrong when I say “Lady, you ain’t fooling anyone. There’s no way that your little Pomeranian is trained to help you cross the street or pick up your spoon. “
I think its a local thing. In Texas, people don’t take their dogs to restaurants or stores, really. In Tucson, they are everywhere; its just a “dog-friendly town”.
i thought if he’s, if he has
the, the guts and the audacity to smoke marijuana in front of the five year old giri
and risk her iungs and risk her life by giving her secondhand smoke and the front
seat passenger doing the same thing then what, what care does he give about
me.
Somebody ought to pound that motherfucker flat with a shovel, and take their time doing it.
Also reinforced by going to nutso training.
The guy runs around pretending that everyone is out to get him and then we are surprised that he panics and shoots some poor guy?
Call me crazy (I am!!) but did a bunch of comments disappear?
Ah – figured it out – In Monocle had the “Hide Old threads” turned on
“In Florida, disturbing manatees is an offence, which could result in a 60 day prison sentence or a huge fine.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4624872/Woman-posts-spine-chilling-video-Florida-river-erupting.html
STEVE SMITH HARDEST HIT! ??
That’s a nice little law for any prosecutor looking to put the screws to someone. What constitutes disturbing a manatee?
“put the screws” – /considers width of gaze
Another point on GA06: It was the first election this year where the Democrats under-performed vis a vis 2016. Trump won the district by 1.5%. Ossoff lost by 3.8%
Please join me on a tour of the derpiest comments!
This asshole got 10 whole likes.
This asshole got 4 likes.
OMG INCOME INEQUALITY!!!!
WRONG. TOP. MEN.
The Bolsheviks were righteous!!!!
The NEOLIBERALS have invaded Glorious Venezuela!
WHITE PRIVILEGE strikes again!
It was George HW BOOOOOOOOSH’s ideas that were put into practice in Venezuela!
Damn, FS, you having some fun tonight. It’s tough to keep this in mind, but trust me on this. I’m only going to say it once, Mkay? Are you ready? *Grouches down and whispers into FS’s ear*. Many people are stupid.
When it comes to sites like Salon, half the fun is reading the comments. Sometimes, like almost everyday, I need to remind myself how stupid people are. I’m addicted, I can’t help myself.
Every moment you spend looking at that shit, is a moment you didn’t spend looking at Hoppe or Aristotle. Don’t you even opportunity cost?
Fair point. But Hoppe and Aristotle are both producing new content at about the same rate. And the value of their insights are all the better because I’ve seen the black heart of the stupidest stupidity that ever roamed the Earth.
Also, I genuinely appreciate you classing Aristotle and Hoppe together as essential thinkers on the issue of social organization.
Right now I’m on FB arguing with a prog friend that is defending Larry Wilmore’s ridiculing Otto Warmbier being arrested in North Korea. “At the time, Larry didn’t know Otto would die”. It’s so ridiculous that I’m have to become an idiot just to understand what idiotic point he thinks he’s scoring. Maybe I should just get one of these and hope that the bombs go off.
Admittedly, the stupidity on Facebook was too much for me. I take the occasional plunge, but I never stay for long lest I be tempted to argue pointlessly with idiots that I knew personally ten years ago. Plus, FB kept making me dislike people I’d liked for years and years. To a certain extent, I’d rather remain ignorant as to my 2nd cousin’s current political philosophy or my college roommates new fangled SJW perspective on the issue of [insert protected group]’s rights.
Is that like a “panic bed”?
I have never regretted, for one instant, not having Facebook or Twitter. My life was fine before social media, its fine now, I don’t think I’m missing anything I care about, so why would I?
Which raises another question: why would anybody?
Which raises another question: why would anybody?
I kind of like being able to remotely keep tabs on people I know from school, and also to stir up some shit when I’m bored.
How much money is Hugo Chavez’s daughter worth again?
By last account somewhat upward of $4.3 billion. And that is dollars, not Bolivars…
So, Hispanics are white, now?
Venezuela has the second highest CEO to worker pay disparity in the world. Not sure how “socialist” that is.
I’m guessing you haven’t studied socialism then.
They read the paragraph in the Communist Manifesto where it says “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”.
They then complained about the hetero-patriarchal cis-normative tone of that sentence, but hey.
Umm, yeah ok. This person isn’t even trying to be serious.
Oh I think they are. You might be surprised at the proportion of the gay community that thinks they’re a hair’s breadth from being dragged out of their homes by Mike Pence himself and hauled off to a conversion therapy death camp.
That’s likely because there are so many people on the left that wish this was the reality for the people they dislike and feel are the enemy of progress. Projection, like cocaine, is a powerful drug.
“A hotel bar in northern Canada said a customer has stolen its most crucial ingredient: a mummified human toe used in the bar’s signature cocktail.
Canada’s CBC News reports that Terry Lee, “Toe Captain” of the Downtown Hotel in Yukon, was “furious” when he discovered the severed digit had been lifted, because “toes are very hard to come by.”
As its name suggests, the bar’s traditional Sourtoe cocktail reportedly features a disembodied toe floating in a whisky shot. As a rule, the drinker must bring the toe to their lips.
According hotel manager Geri Coulbourne, the appendage was donated by a man who had to remove it by surgery, then cured in salt for six months before being put in service.
“This was our new toe, and it was a really good one. We just started using it this weekend,” she said. Lee, however, noted that the bar has a few extra toes at the ready.
http://time.com/4826231/canada-bar-toe-cocktail/
WTF Canada??
You should see my pickling spices!
I wouldn’t endorse stealing the toe, but I’d endorse not drinking the toe beverage.
I’m just amazed this doesn’t violate some kind health and/or safety regulation. Canada is apparently much freer than I thought, good for you canucks.
Toe sucking bastages…
Toeing the line
Bar goes toe to toe with thief
Oh that this toe, toe solid flesh would melt
Hey, don’t take it out on sexist jokes. Sexist jokes dindunuffin to nobody.
Hate to be like P Brooks
It’s not easy being me.
Looks pretty easy, just never got the reply button. 😉
Hit not got.
Really seems like we should be focusing our efforts on mitigation and sequestration, rather than going down the emission reduction rabbit hole…
Also, I’ve noticed nobody ever makes the doomsday case anymore. It’s all about sea levels rising and desertification and acidification and other gradual phenomena we’re more than capable of handling at that glacial pace. Nobody suggests we’re going to make Earth a second Venus. Kinda sad, I like sandwich-board prophets.
Well if we keep driving SUVs, the Earth’s tectonic activity will come to a halt, then the magnetosphere will turn off! Then the cosmic rays will break apart water molecules one by one for a couple thousand years, until all the ocean’s hydrogen is lost to space and the remainder of the ocean turns into atmosphere that will smother us all to death. I think that must be their operative theory.
Personally, I think focusing on carbon emissions for their own sake is a canard at best. The fixation on carbon is a product of the anti-capitalist agenda of the watermelons who’ve taken over environmentalism. Despite what Ron Bailey et al might believe, the science is not, in fact, settled on CAGW.
If they really gave a shit, they’d focus on things like air quality (vis a vis particulates), water quality (influenced by agricultural runoff, for instance), invasive species management, stuff like that. Those are things where changes in inputs produce observable, measurable, consistent changes in output. Money and research put towards dealing with nutrient contamination has immediate, measurable, directly beneficial effects.
You’re measuring stuff by how it impacts quality of life for human beings. They don’t give a shit about that.
One of the few solid conclusions to come out of climate science the past 20 years, not that any of the propagandists will admit it, is that global temperature is not nearly as sensitive to atmospheric carbon concentration as predicted. All the models with high carbon sensitivity have been invalidated. Hopefully this will at least motivate some climate scientists to better understand the problem even if the media mouthpieces are too stupid/dishonest to recognize this situation.
I find it telling that the AGW skeptics are a relatively small proportion of any western society, they occupy virtually no positions of influence and power within the government, academic and scientific fields and yet The Consensus™ completely freaks out when someone disputes any single one of their claims. They’re terrified of these skeptics for some reason…
I’d settle for a bunch of scientists to spend 30 years establishing a credible set of baseline atmospheric sampling techniques that collect data that can be validated properly, and ‘corrected’ where necessary in an open, rational, statistically rigorous manner. Oh, and then ensure that the base data, sampling and statistical methodologies don’t get ‘accidentally’ discarded.
Because until you have that corpus of data, the rest is just cocktail parties, symposia and endless rounds of ‘soggy cookie’.
Euphemism?
Sadly not. Urban dictionary would be your friend.
sorry I asked, ugh.
The greatest human being ever, and sharer of my birthday, was the first man to set foot on it.
Was it you, or someone else, who destroyed his mailbox?
“Even if this was not a hate crime targeting Muslims, it has the effect of one…..
It really is an attack on all of us [non-Muslims]”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/nabra-hassanens-death-may-not-legally-be-a-hate-crime-but-it-sure-feels-hateful/2017/06/19/19454a8e-552b-11e7-a204-ad706461fa4f_story.html
Women and minorities hardest hit (with a baseball bat)?
El Salvadoran illegal kidnaps, rapes, and murders a Muslim girl: When Will White America Answer For Their Bigotry?
Also this:
http://freebeacon.com/issues/ice-places-detainer-suspected-illegal-murder-teenager/
So by this standard, the Washington Post would call a white immigrant from South Africa an “African American”, yes? Or more likely; whites need not apply.
I have a cousin who is a serious prog. She posted something on FB about having to make 1500 dollar a month payments on her student loan debt. She is a veterinarian, but she racked up 250k in debt to become one.
I read the conversation between her and some of her friends.
“If you make your payments on IBR for 20-25 years depending on your plan, the total debt is forgiven at that point, but you owe tax on the amount forgiven. If this happens to me, I’m looking at $75K due immediately to the IRS. Many are hoping for new law that will eliminate the tax. But I’m doubtful, personally.”
“Yeah… Darth Cheeto’s proposal is actually to make the minimum they can charge us per month HIGHER because they’re not profiting enough off loans yet and maybe eliminate the public service/non-profit work *actual* forgiveness… cause that’s just what’s needed.”
” I’ve been following that too. Hes after extending people with post-graduation degrees 5 percent more than undergrad, as well as taking away some of the public service exemptions.”
It goes on and on. I don’t get why people don’t understand that when you borrow money, you have to pay it back. I’m not going to inject myself into that derp pile, but Jesus. You know, if I don’t pay my mortgage, the bank will take my house.
Sad thing is, there is an increasing amount of people in my generation that are saddled with huge student loan debt. These are the people that are going to provide the base of for the Bernies of the world.
When America succumbs to a Sanders-ite administration, it’ll take about 12 years for those debts to become irrelevant, even if there’s no debt forgiveness legislation.
Once inflation takes off, paying off all those fixed-rate loans becomes simple. The hardest thing is getting the cash to the bank without having your wheelbarrow stolen.
“eliminate the public service/non-profit work *actual* forgiveness… cause that’s just what’s needed.”
It’s a good start. We always come back to this. The farmer who puts fucking food on your table isn’t a public servant, but the fucking Ag Department bureaucrat parasite is a noble public servant who deserves 120% of median salary, a full pension, and loan forgiveness.
The fucking feudal bootlicking impulse of rank and file progs sickens me. Look, if you want to pay higher taxes so people stupider then you can live high off the hog, so be it. But count me out.
It all makes sense if you start from the premise that they don’t think it should be a loan at all; they think someone else should just pay for their degree.
The free college shit really pisses me off. I kinda take it personally. 12 years ago I decided college was going to be hugely expensive and I didn’t want to start off adulthood in debt. I went work on a night shift at a factory. I went school at community college to study industrial automation while working. I busted my ass for 2 years to get my certification and came out with no debt, great job prospects, and a sense of having earned what I have.
It pisses me off hearing these progs whining about how they went to college for years on somebody else’s dime and now that they have left their colleges are so upset that they have to honor the agreement they made with their loan companies. All you fuckers got to have a blast going to school and partying for half a decade while I worked my ass off and you think that you’re entitled to have my tax dollars “forgive” your stupid financial decisions.
Not sure why free college is a problem. I hear that all of the faculties and administrators have already agreed to work for free.
I have a ‘free’ college article in the works.
I just need some ‘free’ time.
Median pay for a vet is $88k (which seems shockingly low given the rates I’ve paid for veterinary care over the last 20 years). The math required to work out the break-even point on financing the education required to become a vet given the median pay for a vet is about a 5th grade level, maybe less. Sounds like she got pretty severely ripped off on her education.
No shit – 250K? I didn’t even know NYU had a veterinary school.
It was K-State, and I have no idea how she racked up that much debt. To me, I don’t care. Don’t borrow money you can’t pay back. It’s pretty simple
I went to school for a thousand years part time taking out full time loans. I mean, I owe a fuck ton of student loan debt, but it’s nowhere near 250k. That’s like going to an expensive school from freshman year to postgrad and blowing loan money on bar tabs every night.
You know she did the study abroad nonsense, too, all while not working so she could ‘focus on her studies’.
I’m curious. What in your estimation makes study abroad “nonsense”?
Borrowing copiously to pay for it.
Friend from my post below paid ~$15k to spend a couple months at a dig site in the Levant because… reasons. Certainly nothing to do with prosecuting dope dealers in the midwest.
Ok, it’s not always nonsense. Actually pursuing some academic goals while experiencing a different culture is great.
Adding a vacation to your student loan burden is nonsense.
Come on man, for a veterinarian? You need Scandinavian cultural immersion to learn how to set a dog’s leg? Enough that you’d rack up extra debt for it and then bitch about how the system boned you? It’s not nonsense for everyone, but you have to live within your means, and it’s pretty silly if your major has no real relation to anything international.
(that, of course, is presuming she actually did that. In any case, she had to have done something equally stupid to have racked up 250k in student loan debt)
@Tundra
Yes, if it’s just a glorified vacation, I agree.
Oh, and there’s my friend’s ex-wife who borrowed out a quarter mil for an ongoing master’s in history. Same university. Forgot to mention the scholarships: both of these people had full rides courtesy of the state lotto scholarship. So tution for their bachelor’s was paid for. Everything on top of that was living large. Friend’s ex-wife spent it partying in LA and Europe. She will never, ever, ever pay it back, even assuming she ever graduates.
Like a friend who went to a state university in let’s just say flyover country. Managed to rack up ~$100k over six years. Tuition is under 10k. The rest, as best I can tell, was just frittered away on living expenses and traveling.
Then the good money after bad: three years at a semi-prestigious law school for another $120k. Plans on prosecuting. Tells me law school debt isn’t eligible for loan forgiveness. Best I can tell, screwed for life. JFC, it still makes my head spin.
88K is the median? Huh, some demographic must be skewering that pretty hard, the vets I know take in a lot more than that.
As a counter example, a story of a v veterinarian student that did things right. My friend’s sister decided that she wanted to be a vet pretty early on; since her neighbor was a vet, she decided to talk to her about the best way to go about it. She worked her ass of in high school and worked as a assistant tech with several large animal vets in the area. When she graduated her work experience and grades got her a partial scholarship to Ohio State. (I refuse to give it the definite article) While she was there, she decided to specialize in ruminate nutrition. She also worked during this time. After getting her bachelor’s, she went to Emory down in Georgia for her master’s, on a free ride provided by Purina. She then got her doctorate, also from Emory, for free. Emory actually paid her for the trouble. She now makes around $150K doing research for livestock feed, and graduated with a total of about 5K on derby from her bachelor’s thatwas paid off in six months, which made it interest free because it was before the grace period lapsed.
Graduating with 250K of debt? They are an idiot.
If I felt like arguing with progs today, I copy and paste this right in the middle of their FB exchange.
If I feel like making the trek to Facebook, I’ll take a look at her posts. She has a lot of colleagues that made much dumber decisions similar to tote cousin’s, and any time one of them posts about debt forgiveness or how loans are hard, she lights them up with righteous indignation. Her posts on it are glorious.
Did I mention she came from a dirt poor family from out on the sticks? Gives her even less tolerance for people stupidly throwing money away when her mom had to make meatloaf with saw dust as an extender to make sure the family was fed.
I went to bed before you asked your question…what was it?
Do you know of any research on how non vocal tokens in writing affect reading comprehension and language acquisition? Things like punctuation, commas, periods and such, and conventions like how every noun is capitalized in German. Not sure exactly what the collective name for those things is, which is hampering my search.
Specifically I’m interested in regards to programming languages. Unfortunately, in all of the research on programming languages, 99.99999% had focused on the programming part, with the language part bring an afterthought. The notable exception to that being quorum, but their research is rather incomplete.
I can find plenty of research on how computers parse such tokens, but I don’t care about that; programsare meant to be read by people first and only incidentally to be run by computers. Since MUH STEM brethren see little use in actually applying STEM to language design, I figured it can’t hurt to see what insights the linguists may have to offer.
I can dip into my library for specific articles, but off the top of my head, I can definitely say that the current research supports the fact that a language’s orthographic conventions do support or hinder the rate of acquisition of literacy. I would use search terms like “orthography” and “phonemic awareness” find what you need.
Feel free to email me at my gmail account “heroicmulatto”, and I’ll send you anything I find.
Though this seems like overkill for what is obviously a Lisp vs. Python rant. 🙂
Thanks for the tip. I have a feeling that it may be more important in programming languages than natural languages, since natural languages have large amounts of redundancy built into them; if you miss one part of the sequence you can still fill in the blanks. Programming languages generally try to eliminate redundancy though, so those orthographic pointers may be more necessary. My hunch is that there is a tipping point somewhere. To little and you end up with the functional languages, which are nearly incomprehensible to someone without a master’s in mathematics. To much, and you get LISP, where you are forever hunting for that missing ‘)’. Neither is ideal. But then it raises the questions of what symbols are important and in what contexts, and how they impact cognitive load.
While it may be overkill, it is mostly to satisfy my endless curiosity than anything else. Everyone knows python is crap. But the question entered my brain, and now I want and answer. The link got wiped when I copied my original post, but you may want to check out Quorum if you get a chance. Eventually I may end up trying to design an experiment similar to theirs to test my hypothesis, and I’m curious how a linguist would view such endeavors.
And some more Asian for your trouble.
It’s definitely an interesting question. Part of the “problem” may be due to the fact that no human’s first language is a programming language, so you have what is called “negative transference” as the individual learns to think in the syntax of the programming language. And it’s interesting that you mention cognitive load, as part of my dissertation did investigate the role working memory and cognitive load play in the acquisition of the academic register of a second language. I can most certainly see how a programming language’s readability would impact cognitive load.
I’ll admit, I’m fascinated. I’ll be sure to get back to you with some articles as soon as I get a chance.
@Caput
Sauce?
Asking for a friend.
@HM her name is Rhiannon Liu;Half Taiwanese, half Hawaiian. Good mix.
If you find anything, you can email me at Gwynapnaud at gmail.
Written vowels == teh awesomes!
Spaces between words == fuck yeah!
Periods == The bomb!
Arabic, and old Latin and Greek are a pain in the ass to read because they are missing one or more of those.
I have to agree that written vowels are awesome. Though, I was a Classics minor, as well as having learned Thai later in life. In Thai, there are no spaces between words, only spaces between sentences. I found that once you got over the hump of say, mastering the 500 most common words, parsing words within a Thai sentence was really no big deal. Classical Latin inscriptions, on the other hand were more difficult, just due to the sheer amount of abbreviations and ligatures.
Anyone that hocks their future to the tune of $250K, unless they can quickly land a job that earns them money that allows them to comfortably pay off that mortgage sized loan, deserves the ass rape they get from something that stupid.
My rule of thumb is that you should not borrow more than your starting salary (year).
My cousin is a doctor and posts the same tripe. She shares a student loan forgiveness article at least once a week.
Gimme free shitz!
I don’t understand the logic here with these people.
In our system, anyone can go to any school the like and get any education they want, regardless of whether they can afford it at the time. The only stipulation is that sometime later in life they pay back the money it cost.
In Europe’s system, those who measure high on an IQ test may go to a school the government finds acceptable. Instead of themselves paying for it, money is taken from others to pay for it (regardless of whether those people benefit the system).
Talking to any damn progressive, I’m to believe the latter system is somehow better. Makes no sense. Although our system has problems with creating artificial demand, it is at least morally superior.
Not trying to be pedantic, but an academic achievement test ≠ an IQ test, though, with well-constructed instruments, they are definitely correlated. By definition, an academic achievement test measure how much information an individual has acquired and/or what skills were mastered during the course of his or her schooling. De facto, however, these tests measure how well one plays the game of ‘school’. As OMWC/(((Renegade))) pointed out yesterday, quite often, the highest IQ people are the ones who play the school game the worst.
An IQ test is moderately predictive of how well someone will do in school and little else, but point taken.
Yeah…I’m gonna say that this individual is not very familiar how profit from lending works.
Darth Cheeto
Thumbs up. Right up there with Donny Two-Scoops as a Presidential nickname.
This is what passes for news in 2017.
Crickey, Trump is stealing our democracy and that’s what they’re interested in?
This is the most retarded “nonsense passing as news” i’ve seen so far this year
I like to read dumb stuff, but that one’s over the line
How many political advisors weighed in on that comment before it was made?
Chelsea just needs to shut the fuck up and go away. Who gives a shit what a person whose primary selling point is they’re someone’s kid thinks about, well, anything?
I disagree. The more she publicly flails in a sad attempt to achieve relevance, the less relevant she increasingly becomes.
Keep at it, Chelsea. Somebody that actually matters might someday remotely give half a fuck that you exist.
this. she’s digging her own professional grave.
i think she’s already completely done as a public figure. If she’d kept her trap shut for a few years then emerged as semi-coherent and with some credible experience… maybe. but this desperation to stay in the public eye, and yet have nothing to show except retarded pandering? is just fucking stupid
/me rocks in chair, considering the possibility of an etymological connection between pandas and pandering.
.. I ponder this, because people I know who worked with her at Avenue Capital are of the opinion that she’s dumber than a box of rocks, and maybe someone told her that she had to pander to the masses.
If Chelsea ever does run, the Rs should nominate a retarded panda to challenge her.
At least one of the Clinton has to stay in the public eye. Without one of them being capable of peddling influence, the donations to the Clinton foundation dry up. That’s why you see the desperation. It’s because the Clintons actually are desperate.
Her mother was stiff, robotic, and ingratiating, but she at least had a command of her talking points. Sure, it was mostly platitudinous prattle with frequent digs thrown in at ungoodthinkful people, but she came across as politically competent.
Chelsea, though, is somnambulant and obtuse. She’s political ambien. She’s not going to light fires for anyone, not for Democrats, not for progressives, not even for feminists. She had that flap about finding it difficult to care about money, but I think we missed the forest for that particular tree: she sounds like she finds it difficult to care deeply about anything. She seems to have the same passion for navel lint as she does anything else.
Have you people seen the people Democrats nominate for president? Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton? Hell, Bernie fucking Sanders got a shitload of votes. What do they have that Chelsea doesn’t? Okay, besides being the First Black President, what else?
Another shot at First Woman President™, and that’s basically it.
There’s one thing those people didn’t have throughout their ascendancy – Twitter. Less-than-stellar intellect is not as bad of a handicap when it isn’t constantly on public display.
^again, you nail it
better to be rumored a fool than to prove it every 5 minutes beyond all doubt
*(apologies to apocryphal abe lincoln)
Well, Trump sometimes says stupid things on Twitter, or at least that’s what the progs think. I think he’s a lot smarter than many give him credit for, maybe not 4D-chess grandmaster smart, but I think he understands how to appeal to his base and get the left to look at shiny objects.
He also doesn’t have an army of “social media managers” that are “curating” his Twitter “brand”. However dumb his tweets might come off sometimes (they’re really not though), practically everyone reading them knows instantly that they came from him and him alone. Ds like Chelsea will never ever understand the power of authenticity in this regard.
Found some Jiffy Pop popcorn (actually some ripoff version) the other day and decided to impress the daughter with cool stuff that we had back in the day. We’re waiting for the popping to start and then, “Pop”. We wait a little longer and few more. “Pop, Pop, Pop”. Then a few seconds pass until the next grouping of “Pops”. Finally, it reaches it’s crescendo and my daughter and I are enjoying the theatrics. As, I watched the process play out, I couldn’t help but see a metaphor: The fire from the stove as the media, the first kernels popping off as the nutcases, and the flimsy aluminum pan and covering as the government. Supposedly, there’s a shelf life to government and I don’t see where libertarians fit in this metaphor.
The filthy capitalist scum that built the kitchen, popcorn popper, the bowl, the power to run the popper, basically anything tangible.
Jiffy Pop. I hate getting old. Also, I apologize because I’m just drinking and not taking bong hits, so my metaphor doesn’t have a “Whoooa, Dude” moment.
A sequel to I, Pencil? “I, Popcorn”?
“There is no single person on earth who understands every process required to get one of *these* to your popcorn popper” sounds a little overwrought.
Tough nuts to crack?
You enjoyed watching the tempest in a teapot that was the popcorn popping.
I don’t see where libertarians fit in this metaphor.
You’re the libertarian. You were the libertarian all along!
Not according to many libertarians. That’s why I’m here where I’m at least tolerated.
Libertarian. Unapologetic consumer of nature’s wondrous bounty, and irredeemable shitlord.
… sounds about right.
Sardonically watching the fireworks from the sideline knowing there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.
And getting one of these. *Used this twice now, but this is where it was truly needed*.
In another sign that the #RESISTance has made the Obama wing go completely insane, Fmr. AG and eternal Team Blue statist Eric Holder is considering a presidential run.
So half of my plan for a Weiner/Holder ticket is being implemented.
I like this, but I still think Franken/Stein is your best work.
Thank you
(though technically you only said it was better than my *other* work, but I’ll take compliments where I can get them)
If he’s elected, he’d still be in contempt of Congress?
That seems to be a minimal requirement of being President nowadays.
So… Most qualified candidate ever?
In that he defied Congressional subpoenas even without being Pres, yes. They generally wait until they’re in the White House.
“Black” and “geriatric” are no longer sufficient on the grievance scale to obtain the Democratic nomination. If he decides he’s a tranny or something then maybe.
Erica Jennette Holder for 2020! #resist #sobrave
So a woman can’t have a “male” name? Why should xe change xis name just to accommodate your cisnormative prejudices?
I think they’re going to be floating these “somewhat respected* democrat considers presidential run”-stories every 3months for the next 3 years. Its just a way to keep people talking while the actual candidates get their shit together. Eric Holder aint running for shit.
*oh, by ‘respected’, i mean, “people on the left recognize his name, but are too ignorant to know what’s wrong with them; people on the right recognize his name and hate his guts”
So he’s a place-Holder?
your pun game is strong
So the Capitol Sargent at Arms can attest him at the first SOTU for his contempt of a congress charge.
Hell, I’ll vote for him just to see that.
Maybe they’re not confident that The Rock will run so they’re looking for another “Fast and Furious” star on the ticket.
*stands, applauds heartily*
Has anyone noticed that photo of him makes him look French?
Here’s another picture
Was that snapped around nine last night?
French Pajama Boy?
yeah, exactly. he looks like pajama boy after he graduated from law school and assumed he was qualified for high-office now.
Golden.
Showers.
Bring May flowers?
so THAT’S why the pilgrims left, they were tired of being kinkshamed
Trigger Hippie couldn’t find his gun the other day. I’ve got a bigger problem. WhereTF did I put that beer?
Is the little lady sneaking beers behind your back?
Who you calling an alcoholic?
Dank Space 9
My hemispheres no longer have the connections necessary to understand what they are saying.
*befuddled face*
Anyone that hocks their future to the tune of $250K, unless they can quickly land a job that earns them money that allows them to comfortably pay off that mortgage sized loan, deserves the ass rape they get from something that stupid.
An excellent point. If somebody came to you and said, “Hey, you should buy this business for a quarter of a million dollars, dude. It will totally be worth it,” you *most likely* would not just whip out your checkbook and start writing. You’d probably ask some simple questions like, “Does this business make money? How much? Enough to cover the payments?”
And when I say “you” I mean anybody. Even the people who borrowed a shitload of money for school. But those people have been bamboozled by the lie which is repeated everywhere that “college gives you more earning power and a better future.”
It ain’t necessarily so.
“Corporations aren’t people, man!”
“But those people have been bamboozled by the lie which is repeated everywhere that “college gives you more earning power and a better future.””
That is one of the nastiest lies told to kids these days. Not every college degree is made the same. And I am not talking about the difference between a degree from some community college vs. one from an ivy leagues school, but between degrees from the same school. I find it criminal that colleges charge people that get an engineering, accounting, or medical degree, as a for example, whom have a far better prospect for a high paying job the same money they charge some idiot that gets one of those studies or BA degrees that really only leave you qualified for a job asking people if they want fries with that these days.
I suspect kids get told to this lie about college by people that hope these mush minds will then end up being filled with the usual proggie clap trap nonsense, especially if it leaves them deep in debt, unable to get decent work, and angry at people that have things or don’t have their self inflicted problems. It’s criminal.
you’re like 30% correct
its not the degree at all. most people’s undergraduate degrees are meaningless. most people learn what they need to learn on the job. the degree is just an indicator of the ability to learn. the shit you study in undergraduate school isn’t all that important. an engineering major who ends up in middle management is no better qualified than the history major who has 5 years more experience handling projects. there are lots of chinese + indian math and engineering majors at the lowest levels of wall street, and guess what? 90% of them never advance very far because they don’t have any goddamn common sense or intuition about how to actually talk about business-strategy related issues. they never become deal-makers, much less management. sure, if you want to work in a lab its different but you’re talking about a fraction of 1% of the working public.
“its not the degree at all. most people’s undergraduate degrees are meaningless. most people learn what they need to learn on the job. the degree is just an indicator of the ability to learn. the shit you study in undergraduate school isn’t all that important. an engineering major who ends up in middle management is no better qualified than the history major who has 5 years more experience handling projects.”
Gilmore,
I am not talking about the ability to do work or the knowledge you have acquired, but about the ability to start earning big right out of school. Yes, over time, as one shows the ability to learn on the job and then progresses to earn money, things usually equals out and those that can end up exceeding, but getting your foot in the door to start working, and then at a decent pay, definitely depends on your degree to a large extent.
Would you offer to pay some kid with a BA in women studies the same as you would someone that shows up with an in demand degree? I have not ever seen that be the case unless the person had some family member giving them the break to get the job in the first place.
Unfortunately, I can think of a lot of American corporations that would snap up that BA Womens Studies graduate, given the current sociopolitical climate and pop her straight into HR with a reasonable expectation of career advancement. The challenge is identifying an ‘in demand degree’. One of my neighbors’ sons recently graduated with a Batchelors’ in Mech Eng, and he found it hard to get a position, ending up in a steel fabrications firm somewhere in OK. He’ll do alright, in the end, but it was frustrating for 6 months.
The currency of a degree nowadays is so debased, that the concept of an ‘in demand degree’ is always tempered by a consideration of ‘where from?’
“Unfortunately, I can think of a lot of American corporations that would snap up that BA Womens Studies graduate, given the current sociopolitical climate and pop her straight into HR with a reasonable expectation of career advancement. ”
At real shitty pay. I work for one of those mega corps these days…
Nobody gets in on bottom rung earning $50k. Of course, getting on the ladder at all is what counts, and yeah, that specific choice of worthless degree at the moment would be in demand.
unless its in some super esoteric area where there is absurdly high demand, this doesn’t really apply to the vast majority. Nor should it. People shouldn’t be paid whopping $ just for sitting in classes and taking tests.
quit with the woman’s studies comparison. Not every BS is particularly useful or practical, and not every BA is a complete waste of time.
again, take your B-grade chinese engineering majors, and compare them to a guy who was captain of the football team and has an A-average in History. The latter will end up getting the job, probably get paid more, and probably be better at it. And the reasons why are common sense = they’ve shown that they work hard, and employers are confident that they’ll be able to get along with others on a team. The shit they need to know which requires some technical competence (if any) is usually stuff that is trainable.
if you get an advanced degree its a different story. but the relative value of a BS vs. BA at entry level jobs in the majority of corporate business is relatively minor. are there places “not corporate business” where it matters more? sure, i’m not disputing that. But most of what goes on in the world is the business of making, buying, selling stuff; and it aint rocket science.
I think that line of argument is trying to get across the notion that standards are flowing to ever lower depths, whether it’s the types of coursework universities are offering or whether it’s the quality of the work within any particular field, excepting maybe the hardest of sciences, which the left is presently working overtime to soften as much as possible.
This…
i’m not clear what you’re disagreeing with, if anything.
The “degree as an indicator of the ability to learn” is something that may have been true in the past but now is probably less indicative of that than ever before. When you have policies designed to shoehorn everyone into higher education, whether it’s Affirmative ‘Action sticking grossly under-qualified candidates into top schools like Yale or Stanford (and many others), or state and local initiatives to get people from “low income families” into a university or just high school guidance counselors telling kids they NEED to go to college or face a lifetime of ruin. Add to that all the worthless degrees in the feminist and various race theory “fields of study” and you can see how an employer might have doubts about what a degree indicates.
Indicator of ability to bull shit I think.
I actually think that if you cut the grant and aid train and colleges were forced to spend and sell their product on their own merits, that college degrees would actually be valuable again. The only reason why undergrad degrees are useless at this point in time is because everybody and their cousins have one because of the inflated market, and its often in useless, Mickey Mouse-type of studies. Cut the degree supply, and high school degrees and trade degrees become more valuable.
At a minimum those colleges charging insane dollars and then offering big loans should have skin in the game. Especially when the people that took them cant repay the loans….
Try a thought experiment – what if the government went around selling meth?
Anyone dumb enough to buy meth from the government and get addicted would bear responsibility for that.
But the government wouldn’t be off the hook, because acting in the name of the Public Interest they’re encouraging people to engage in behavior that damages them.
Offering for sale is not the same as encouragement. But I do take your analogy: Encouraging people to grab that FAFSA check is kind of like saying ‘Government meth is great for you because meth lets you have more productive hours in a day.’ Personally, I’d rather the government offer meth than loans.
I am having a shitty, shitty week at work, culminating is getting yelled at for not being available when we had to pull down a blog post (was in traffic). Like, everything I touch is an epic fail.
I think I may actually consume alcohol tonight.
Don’t wait, do it right now. Right now!
Vodka and a color spread of Mags.