Monday Afternoon Links

My A/C is out today — but I am working in my usual costume and it is overcast, so its basically like having my own work-at-home sauna.

Firstros are so far in front that their ace will be resting until after the All-Star break. If he gets all the way healthy, he’s going to be strong at the end of September — hopefully getting them into October.

The police officer who shot Philando Castile did nothing illegal, but his employer settled with the family for $3M. It seems like it would be cheaper to fire and aggressively prosecute police officers. (And, fair point to Kmele Foster in the latest 5th Column podcast, the officer was prosecuted with approximately the same charges that a non-law enforcement officer might be prosecuted if they shot and killed someone who said they had a gun and were reaching in their pocket. I think police officers ought to be held to a higher standard by both prosecutors and jurors, but at least the prosecutors got it to trial.)

The USSC seems to be signalling that they are looking to take a break broadening 2A rights. Dissenting were Thomas and Gorsuch.

The main wing of the GOP seems to be telling their people that the Health Care bill may be a giant turd sandwich, but everyone should take a bite.

Manly Monday handled

Nate Silver’s blog says that maybe the “fight for $15” is hurting Seattle employment before they even finish implementing it. I’m guessing that between this and his hedging (and still missing) on (D) elections, he’s going to be outcast by 2018.

Throwback to the 90’s for the song.

Comments

590 responses to “Monday Afternoon Links”

  1. Just Say’n

    Leftists baffled by basic economics

    https://twitter.com/JillFilipovic/status/879375456125976577

    Seattle’s minimum wage increase has hurt low-wage workers the most. The Left is baffled. Incentives? How does that work?

    1. John

      If only there were some kind of science or field of study that could explain such things.

      1. Just Say’n

        Gender theory?

        1. John

          Gender queer racial studies.

          1. Just Say’n

            Not woke enough. Gender Non-binary Fluid Solidarity Studies

          2. Bobarian LMD

            A BA in Finger painting with your own feces?

          3. Q Continuum

            MFA in menstrual blood industrial design.

          4. Just Say’n

            ^ I think we have a winner

          5. bacon-magic

            Ewwwwww winner

      2. SimonD

        Theory of queer Puerto Rican critical basket weaving?

    2. Vhyrus

      Jill Filipovic‏Verified account @JillFilipovic 4h4 hours ago
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      Replying to @JillFilipovic
      The takeaway here should not be, “don’t raise the minimum wage.” It should be continued study of wage policies that optimize worker gains.
      70 replies 6 retweets 42 likes
      Reply 70 Retweet 6 Like 42
      Jill Filipovic‏Verified account @JillFilipovic 4h4 hours ago
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      And should also be a look at broader policy packages, of which an increased min wage is just one part, to decrease poverty & inequality.
      28 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
      Reply 28 Retweet 1 Like 18
      Jill Filipovic‏Verified account @JillFilipovic 3h3 hours ago
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      Also worth noting that this is just one study. Others have shown different results -that minimum wage hikes benefited workers & the economy

      See guys? We just didn’t prog hard enough or cook the books enough.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        WE NEED MORE PROOF. 100 YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH.

        NOT. ENOUGH!

        1. Hyperion

          If only those weak willed socialists in the 20th century would have made 200 million people dead, instead of a meager 100 million, it would have worked! When are we going to finally try real socialism?

          1. Hammercorps

            We gots to kill all the whities first.

      2. Q Continuum

        “continued study of wage policies that optimize worker gains”

        Yeah. It’s called no minimum wage, invisible hand of the market. Easy peasy.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          As I’m sure you know, there is no minimum wage. The minimum wage is zero. As the government continues to raise what they say is the minimum wage, the number of people making the actual minimum wage will increase.

          1. Akira

            Precisely. You can make the law whatever you want, but that doesn’t mean reality will obey that law.

            You might as well try to limit the daily rainfall by passing laws.

          2. Chipping Pioneer

            You might as well try to limit the daily rainfall Earth’s temperature by passing laws.

          3. Hyperion

            “the number of people making the actual minimum wage will increase”

            And that can actually pay pretty well these days.

      3. Hyperion

        “broader policy packages”

        This is just one in a long line of reasons why I truly despise the left. As soon as any potential issue arises, even before there’s any debate, they go straight to ‘policy’. It’s always about force, always.

        1. Holger-da-Dane

          I honestly don’t think most of them see the “force” part. All they see are selfish people who want to make money at someone else’s expense.

          So it comes down to a mix of ignorance of economics and an unwillingness to embrace the idea that everyone has the right to not be aggressed against. Even selfish people.

          1. Viking1865

            I honestly don’t think most of them see the “force” part.

            See I think they do see the “force” part, because they spend all their time demonizing the rich. They know damn well they’re planning on stealing that money, and they justify it by painting the wealthy as evil monsters.

            If they truly believed that taxation was some kind of voluntary wonderfulness, they wouldn’t be so fucking hateful.

    3. The Other Kevin

      Nobody could have seen this coming. NOBODY!

    4. DOOMco

      maybe we could cut taxes and stop withholding?
      I’d go from 1200 a month to 1600.

    5. Pope Jimbo

      This story has some interesting takes on Seattle’s minimum wage.

      One study did a high level scan of just restaurant workers and found no impact. Another study by locals from the U of Wash actually looked at all the payrolls and found that there was a big impact. Mostly in the reduction of hours.

      A lot of the story is a bunch of lefty’s trying to wave away the idea that there could be any negative impact.

    6. Raston Bot

      according to one twitter, apparently there’s a wage equilibrium that can be met by govt mandate and then all’s well. not that the job market is fluid or anything. nope. there’s a minimum wage equilibrium and it’s $13/hour. oh fucking hell. how do these people feed themselves..

      1. Juice

        LOL “Let’s let the market figure out equilibrium prices, then mandate them to be minimum prices.”

        1. commodious spittoon

          Akin to commie apologists arguing that we can get around Mises’ calculation problem–they’ll keep Hong Kong as one mini bastion of capitalism and model their economic policies on it.

      2. FreeSociety

        You just don’t understand how minimum wage markets work. You see, people get together and bid on minimum wages and….uhh….. they find the equilibrium of minimum wage prices and….uh the politicians they, like, set the minimum price of labor based on….you know like, uhh inquality and global warming. Get it now?

      3. Hyperion

        How does one calculate this ‘equilibrium’? Do you sit in a lotus position and hum some mantras until it comes to you?

    7. FreeSociety

      As usual, there were a few exemplary turds buried in the comments.

      ChicagoV™ ⚡️‏ @_ChicagoV_ 3h3 hours ago
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      An equilibrium exists in all markets. It just so happens that the equilibrium in Seattle’s minimum wage market is around $13/hour.

      This guy understands markets so well that he just knows there is an equilibrium to be found in the “minimum wage market”. So it’s not that this has been a failed policy for you see this law gave us valuable economic data for central planners to plan more betterer in the future. Seattle’s ideal minimum wage in 2017 is $13, as for 2018 we don’t know for sure, so we’ll have to pass another minimum wage law to find out. I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE

      1. Holger-da-Dane

        Everything is static. A lack of status quo is the work of evil people.

        * Climate
        * Extinction (evolution)
        * Markets

        Who are the science denying conservatives again?

      2. leonadasiv

        The stupidity of this comment can not be overstated. There is no minimum wage market. There is a labor market for unskilled labor. To day minimum wage is an equilibrium is also farcical, as it represents a minimum, and an equilibrium is an abstraction of the average price for a product. In this case if the minimum wage is above equilibrium, there will be a shortage of jobs in the unskilled labor market (and any itself markets that are encroached on by the minimum wage price floor). Otherwise effects will be limited to the outliers in the markets affected by noon wage.

    8. Pan Zagloba

      Her biography is ambiguous, but, given that she’s unlikely to take her spouse’s last name, I apologize on behalf of Collective South Slav for her.

    9. wdalasio

      The sad part, even when they acknowledge they got this one spectacularly wrong while we warned them of exactly what would happen, they’ll still assume that they know better than our warnings in the future.

      1. AlmightyJB

        They don’t ignore our warnings. They call our warnings racist regardless of what they are.

        1. Mad Scientist

          It’s just going to be more proof of white privilege if it turns out reality is racist too.

    10. Hyperion

      I’m sure the mental gymnastics they go through and the painful contortions they twist themselves into to try and explain this will be most entertaining. ‘Ok, let’s see, the crazies on the right say that costs for a business cannot be above a certain level or they have to pass on those costs to the consumer and at a certain point, people will no longer buy that product. Then they’ll have to close their doors and all the employees will lose their jobs. Crazy lies like this is why we need the government to get more involved! It’s just all about greed!’.

  2. Chipwooder

    That stupid bumblebee girl…..I hated Blind Melon

    1. Tundra

      That song got played too much. I like this one better.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Yeh that was a good one. Have that album.

        Didn’t the singer off himself?

        1. Brett L

          Took a hot shot on a tour bus.

        2. I thought he overdosed.

          1. Juvenile Bluster

            He OD’d on heroin, like half my favorite singers from the time (Bradley Nowell.. sigh… Sublime would’ve been so huge)

          2. bacon-magic

            Sublime was awesome. Bad fish should be in the 3rd set of every bar band.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            Be glad you don’t live in the greater LA Metro area. Sublime has been on heavy rotation for the past 20 years. Red Hot Chili Peppers as well.

          4. Vhyrus

            Trust me, every day I wake up thankful I don’t live in California, and very little of it has to do with music.

          5. ArchieBunker

            I wonder if sublime would have been mainstream at all if not for that. I love em, they were great, date rape is best song ever. But I wonder if their mainstream fame was because of Bradley’s death

    2. SimonD

      Blind Melon was awful. I had to sit through a show of theirs once, They were opening for John Mellencamp, and the GF of the moment loved him (sigh: the things we do for love)
      It was the worst show I’d ever seen. Cats shuddered at the screeching that came from that guy’s vocal cords. Not to mention the sound guy was disgustingly bad as well. I could have done better right off the street.

      1. Blind Melon was awful. I had to sit through a show of theirs once, They were opening for John Mellencamp, and the GF of the moment loved him (sigh: the things we do for love)

        Like walking in the rain and the snow when there’s nowhere to go?

      2. John

        I once went to a Blind Melon concert and I was sad. Then I met a man who went to a Linkin Park concert.

        1. Chipwooder

          I remember this song existing, but I have no feelings about it.

          1. Chipwooder

            Very well.

            Sparkle and Fade is a terrific album. One of the few I listen to from start to finish with no (well, ok, with little) track skipping.

          2. Tundra

            Listening to Summerland as we speak. I agree with you – excellent album.

          3. Chipwooder

            Summerland is a great lesser-known track. My favorite outside of the hits is The Twistinside.

          4. Tundra

            Love that one – “Breathing fire — doesn’t look good on a resume”

          5. Q Continuum

            You can preemptively get off my lawn. 90s music has no peer compared to the swill these clowns are producing nowadays.

          1. Q Continuum

            See you down in Arizona Bay.

        2. mr simple

          I tend to think something like this when I think anti-Blind Melon.

      3. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Their lead singer did manage to check out like I’d like to eventually go though: a massive coronary after an all night crack binge with Gibby Haynes of the Butthole Surfers.

        If only I could be so lucky.

        1. Chipwooder

          Somehow, Gibby Haynes is still alive and almost 60 years old. Fun fact – he played college basketball and was an accountant before going full-time with music.

    3. PBRstreetgang

      Trivia: One of the guys from Blind Melon, I think its the bass player, is now a labor/employment attorney at a Big Law firm in Philadelphia.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      He opposed eugenics during its height. Aside from this revealing him to be more intelligent than the fools, I wonder if anyone called him a ‘denier’. I imagine eugenics was as popular as, say, climate change?

      1. Just Say’n

        Is there a difference between the two?

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          When you listen to their arguments and views about humans, I think no.

    2. LT_Fish

      I was a member of the American Chesterton Society for a year or two. Some good resources and reading material.

      I think “The Everlasting Man” is one of my all-time favorites.

      Really behind on getting through his collected works volumes though.

  3. Q Continuum

    Yes, more attractive females. It’s a bad Monday.

    http://thechive.com/2017/06/23/suns-out-buns-out-67-photos/

    1. Just Say’n

      I see your pictures and raise you one Barstool Sports model: http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/wake-up-with-nicky-gile/

      1. Q Continuum

        She is a tasty treat, though she could use a bit more up top for my taste. Certainly wouldn’t kick her out of bed though.

        1. commodious spittoon
  4. Vhyrus

    I live in Phoenix. Whatever temperature it is where you are, it’s 20 degrees hotter here. No sympathy for you.

    1. Brett L

      Pshaw. You don’t have humidity so sweating works.

      1. Q Continuum

        Irrelevant. As a former ‘Zonan and Florida Man, once it gets above 110, humidity no longer matters. AZ is worse. Every time.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Never lived there, but been to Phoenix and Palm Springs during the summer. Currently live in the Everglades, more or less..

          It’s not a contest. As bad as it is here, it’s far worse there.

      2. Bobarian LMD

        I spent 3 years at FT Irwin.

        The sweating thing is true right up until 115. The only evidence that you actually are sweating is the white circles that form all over your uniform.

        At 130, it’s like sitting in an oven.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          What are you doing sitting?!? Safety stand downs are for closers!

      3. mexican sharpshooter

        It literally hotter here that it feels on the heat index.

    2. Worker and Parasite

      And the dew point/humidity has been creeping up lately in the mornings. Extra sticky.

    3. Chipwooder

      I lived in Yuma for two years. Whatever temperature it was in Phoenix, it was 5 degrees hotter in Yuma. I do have sympathy for you, but then I also don’t know why anyone stays in Arizona.

      1. Vhyrus

        Arizona: It’s worth the heat.

        See? I could totally work for their tourism department.

        But yeah, Yuma is an extra special kind of hell.

        1. Worker and Parasite

          Arizona: not even once.

          Arizona: where the living envy the dead.

          Arizona: putting the South back in Southwest.

          Arizona: where California houses its fuckups and burnouts.

          Arizona: gateway to Utah.

          Arizona: our most famous attraction is a big hole in the ground.

          1. AceDroman

            “I’d rather be dead in California than alive in Arizona.”

      2. R C Dean

        I also don’t know why anyone stays in Arizona

        Check back in four months or so.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          To see if everyone died of heat stroke?

          1. Florida Man

            To see if they drowned during monsoon season?

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            To see us avoiding the inevitable heart attack from shoveling snow.

        2. Chipwooder

          Good point. January in Yuma was glorious – every day was sunny, mid-70s, and dry. I amend my previous statement: I don’t know why anyone stays in Arizona (southern Arizona, anyway) in the summer. Had I the means, I would definitely winter in Arizona.

          I remember doing humvee driver’s course in August 2005. The final bit of it was a drive from Yuma to Dateland and back. Flak and kevlars on, no air conditioning. I brought an ice-cold gallon jug of water with me. By the time we got to Dateland for the turnaround, it was practically boiling. There was an Army convoy there at the same time, and I was so jealous of those bastards. They were just wearing boots and utes, no blouses let alone flaks and kevlars.

          At least in Iraq the Humvees had those jerry-rigged ACs.

          1. Vhyrus

            Oh no you don’t! Once we’re done building a southern wall we’re making one to the north to keep out all the goddamn 80 year old snowbirds that infest us like plague rats in September.

          2. Mad Scientist

            Doers the population of Mesa still double every winter?

          3. Vhyrus

            yes, and then gradually declines as the whitewalkers die of old age once they get here.

            I swear to god I could take a picture of the parking lot of my local farmers market in November and you would be convinced I lived in Canada.

          4. Chipwooder

            The population of Yuma triples. That’s what people there used to say, anyway, when the streets were clogged with RVs and giant trailers from places like Montana, Washington, and Alberta. All those old farts who drive the tenement on wheels down to Yuma to bask in the sun and cross the border to Los Algodones to score cheap prescriptions.

          5. mikey

            Arizona is Montana’s Florida.

      3. Q Continuum

        Lake Havasu City will convince you that the sun wants to personally destroy you. It does encourage girls to get naked during Spring Break though.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        The mailbox was clearly run over by a female driver, but hey, global warming!

    4. Yusef drives a Kia

      Try the Rooftops I work on in the I.E. 125-130-135, attics are worse. God help Arizona HVAC guys

    5. ArchieBunker

      Who’s the idiot that decided to live in a hot desert?

      1. Q Continuum

        Hitler?

  5. My A/C is out today — but I am working in my usual costume

    So you’re in just your tighty-whiteys?

    1. Brett L

      They’re more gray now.

      1. So you even stripped out of your jorts.

        1. Brett L

          Jorts are for special occasions like fishing and weddings.

    2. Mad Scientist

      More like tighty-once-whiteys.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        They’re probably not too tight neither, what with the waistband all blowed out.

  6. John

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170623/06000037650/cops-sent-warrant-to-facebook-to-dig-up-dirt-woman-whose-boyfriend-they-had-just-killed.shtml

    Cops sent a subpoena to Facebook in hopes of finding dirt on woman whose boyfriend they just murdered.

    1. DOOMco

      Woodchippers.

    2. Just Say’n

      Is it possible to be an even bigger ass?

      1. Stay tuned for Thicc Thursday.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Is this John ‘John’?

      1. Sean

        Let’s find out…

        It is everyone’s right to be able to own a bullet proof vest.

        1. Fun fact, the bullet proof was originally a dent left in a breastplate when the armorer tested it against a black powder pistol (before those got powerful enough that plate just didn’t cut it anymore)

      2. C. Anacreon

        I’m guessing yes. I did always mentally picture him as a canine in a suit and sunglasses.

    4. Playa Manhattan

      She live streamed the aftermath on Facebook.

      It was evidence, and they eventually used it at trial against the officer.

      The warrant was boilerplate bullshit, but it was absolutely necessary.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        I’m not willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. The video was publicly available. You know as well as I do why they issued a warrant for the contents of her FB page.

  7. Worker and Parasite

    That 2A denial by the Supremes is disappointing. Thomas’ dissent from the denial is completely on point.

    1. mr simple

      The reasoning of the underlying judgement is ridiculous, if the linked article is correct in its assertions.

      But last year, the full 9th Circuit reconsidered the issue and rejected this broader view of the 2nd Amendment. Citing English history back to 1541, Judge William Fletcher said the law for centuries had restricted the carrying of concealed firearms without a license.These restrictions were enforced in the American colonies prior to the Constitution, he said.

      Oh, you mean before that thing you’re supposed to be judging the law against existed? How the hell does that hold up under any scrutiny?

      1. Pan Zagloba

        Did he just give a solid argument for why US should be a monarchy?!

    2. Hyperion

      Twitler needs two more picks.

  8. Tonio

    Brett, the Supreme Court of the United States is generally abbreviated to SCOTUS. USSC is the US Sentencing Commission.

    1. Brett L

      You’re right. I knew that. My brain keeps overheating and resetting.

      1. Tonio

        Sorry, buddy. Hope it gets fixed soon.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          I assume mephedrone would do the trick.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            I think he means the mistake, not Brett’s brain.

          2. jesse.in.mb

            I won’t be held responsible for an unclear antecedent for “it”.

          3. Tonio

            Go to my room. Right now, young man!

          4. jesse.in.mb

            Oh my…

          5. Sean

            Fine. I’ll say it. That “oh my” totally reads in a George Takei voice.

          6. jesse.in.mb

            That was the expectation, yes.

  9. John

    Today in hot women of twitter, I present Jewhadi, because there is no sexy like crazy sexy. Those eyes, that stair.

    https://twitter.com/jewhaditm?lang=en

    1. Vhyrus

      Would, but if she’s actually jewish I won’t be sharing my real name or address. Don’t need anymore jewish crazy in my life.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        Don’t need anymore jewish crazy in my life

        hate speech

      2. Worker and Parasite

        Jewish crazy: more or less dangerous than Hispanic crazy?

        1. Florida Man

          More annoying, less physically dangerous.

        2. Just Say’n

          Less. Jewish girls aren’t as proficient with a knife

        3. Vhyrus

          Remarkably similar, but slightly less cuckoldry and much more direct spousal violence.

        4. Brett L

          Do you prefer to have a luxury car parked on your head or hunted by her family after you get caught cheating?

    2. DOOMco

      Is this the John?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Shut up you half wit.

        1. DOOMco

          You’re just upset that I hit submit first.

      2. Hyperion

        No, it’s Hilter, I’m sure of it.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      This can’t really be John.

      Quick, say something that the real John would say.

      1. John

        Look closer. You know stare at the post. I left it right there for you.

        1. Tundra

          Hi John.

          1. John

            Hello.

          2. Yusef drives a Kia

            Hi John, took long enough

          3. bacon-magic

            Yay John!

          4. C. Anacreon

            Yes, the typical 500-comment Glibertarians post should average about 900 comments from now on.

          5. Old Man With Candy

            Without any uptick in quality.

          6. Hyperion

            Hi John, you shitlord who’s really Hitler.

          7. FreeSociety

            Welcome, John! It’s like Hotel California, but I still can’t figure out some basic html stuff that used to work just fine on The Other Site.

        2. grrizzly

          A cool avatar. But why not a monkey in a suit?

          1. Mad Scientist

            That’s a little too Darwinist for him.

          2. R C Dean

            But why not a monkey in a suit bullet-proof vest?

          3. John

            Chimps in suits never get old. It’s called Menswear Dog. It’s a real dog. The woman who owns him and her boyfriend both work in the fashion industry and started dressing her dog up in men’s fashion and photographing him as a joke. It took off on Facebook and Instagram and she now makes several hundred thousand dollars a year from clothing designers paying her to dress her dog up in their clothes. She has the greatest answer ever to the question “what do you do for a living”; “I dress my dog up in expensive clothes and take pictures of him”.

          4. grrizzly

            Yes, it must have been you who stated on the old site that chimps in suits were inherently funny.

          5. John

            They are. A chimp wearing a suit makes any situation funny. It never gets old. It is an iron law of comedy.

      2. Florida Man

        Read my mind and tell me what I really believe!
        /sends brain waves

      3. Vhyrus

        I don’t know… it does have a subtly funny typo….

        1. R C Dean

          Yeah, but it doesn’t have the feel, the je ne sais quois, of a Johno.

          1. John

            It is me. Give it time. I have to get back into form with my malapropisms.

          2. Hyperion

            Lots of type-os will be the real test. We need some funny ones, so get to it.

          3. Chipwooder

            We’ll find out the truth if he goes berserk over a minor point that most people wouldn’t even notice.

          4. John

            That too.

          5. Vhyrus

            Quick, mention body armor.

          6. Gustave Lytton

            What’s wrong with you Vhyrus? You used to be one of the smart ones here. You’re a blithering idiot and too stupid to understand what I’m saying.

          7. BakedPenguin

            Also, promote more ‘zaftig’ women from now on…

    4. Pan Zagloba

      Welcome to Hazingville, population: you!

      Seriously, good to have you over.

    5. Hello again! So glad the Supreme Court allowed you to be admitted despite the executive order, or is that a different issue?

      1. PS – you get to submit articles. The mods decide what to do after that, but just take a look at what they allow to be posted.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          just take a look at what they allow to be posted.

          Do you think our submission standards are too ecumenical or too lax?

          1. Eclectic, I’d say.

            But I have some articles waiting in the queue right now, so I hope you’re lax. It’s taking a while to process them, hint hint.

          2. Seriously, I wasn’t questioning the quality of the articles, simply alluding to the wonderful variety of subject-matter.

            (Wonderful in the old sense of inspiring astonishment)

          3. To clarify further: The articles are truly masterpieces of their genre – they are precisely what they are supposed to be given their aspirations – the thicc photos are indeed thicc, the SugarFree fiction is indeed creepy and gross – the Florida Man stories are Florida Man-y, and so on and on.

            And I’m not just saying that to butter up you and the other moderators, I’m…I have trouble finishing that sentence.

          4. (I’m trying not to offend through excessive flattery, but I do indeed read these contributions with great interest and appreciation. Even if I wasn’t the contributor.)

    6. BigGreg

      ” Those eyes, that stair.”

      It really is John!

    7. Hyperion

      Jewhadi, heh.

  10. jesse.in.mb

    Manly Monday handled

    Man, I loved that feature. When is that lazy asshole who did it going to get back on it?

    Also I’d handle his Monday if ya catch mah drift.

    1. John Titor

      Jesse – Too Lazy To Look At Porn.

      1. Just Say’n

        Gay stereotypes hardest hit

      2. jesse.in.mb

        I should probably go change my editor bio.

        1. C. Anacreon

          For some reason that tortilla you’re holding in your avatar always looks like an enema bag to me.
          Too many years working in hospitals, I guess.

          1. Tundra

            It’s lefse.

          2. jesse.in.mb

            I’m reading a recipe and I would put that in my face.

          3. Mad Scientist

            How do you know it’s NOT an enema bag?

          4. JW

            It *could* be an enema crepe.

          5. jesse.in.mb

            *cries*

    2. KibbledKristen

      Yeah, when is that lazy asshole getting back with the program?

      1. jesse.in.mb

        At least I got lazy on a high note with my last Scottish Fest set.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    I remember Phoenix. There were days I had to use my shirttail as a makeshift pot holder to open the car door because the handle was so fucking hot you couldn’t grasp it bare handed.

    1. Mad Scientist

      When I lived there my roommate had an oven mitt he kept in the front seat so he could turn the ignition key without getting burned.

    2. Vhyrus

      My mom left a little tub of vaseline in her car and when she went and opened it is was liquefied from the heat. Nothing like getting second degree burns from liquefied vaseline.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I’d consider that a successful Saturday night.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Better than friction burns?

    3. Wait, you actually went outside? Were you suicidal?

    4. Chipwooder

      I accidentally branded my arm with the imprint of the seat belt buckle once when I lived in AZ.

    5. kinnath

      I still have a scar from my first week in Phoenix.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    The NYT article (linked this morning) about Seattle’s “experiment” featured some lefty interest group whining about the UW methodology. Also, a study from UC Berkeley totally shows no adverse effect.

    So there, you bunch of Rethuglikkkin conspiracy theorists.

    1. You mean the study that only looked at restaurant jobs and only within a certain radius of the city center?

      That was a case study in selection bias.

      1. Q Continuum

        Clearly if they had only included restaurant workers in Pocatello, it would have shown the true result that minimum wage has absolutely nothing to do with labor distortions. None. Zero. Zip. In fact, we should just make minimum wage 1 skillion dollars an hour. That’ll fix poverty. (takes a deep huff of paint thinner)

      2. whiz

        Even if low-paying jobs are not reduced by an increase in the minimum wage (which is in dispute), that money must come from somewhere. That’s what defenders of the minimum wage ignore.

        It seems to me that either employers make less (so that they have less money to buy other things) or they raise prices (so that their customers have less money to buy other things). That could reduce jobs in lots of sectors, not just the one they study. Or it could mean there is less money for investment, which leads to fewer jobs than there would have been (choking off job growth that would have been there).

        To not look at the whole picture is really misleading.

  13. John

    This is why suicide bombing is a dead end in warfare. The good ones never make it past practice.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4638994/ISIS-commanders-killed-one-group-s-suicide-bombers.html

    1. Vhyrus

      I hope he got his virgins at least. If anyone deserves them it’s him.

  14. SimonD

    OT: Whenever we think the Progs can’t get any worse, they do:

    https://medusamagazine.com/beyond-pro-choice-the-solution-to-white-supremacy-is-white-abortion

    TW: Weapons-grade derp with an undercurrent of pure evil (and I don’t use that word often)

    Money quote:

    White women: it is time to do your part! Your white children reinforce the white supremacist society that benefits you. If you claim to be progressive, and yet willingly birth white children by your own choice, you are a hypocrite. White women should be encouraged to abort their white children, and to use their freed-up time and resources to assist women of color who have no other choice but to raise their children.

    Half of me thinks this has to be vicious satire. It CAN’T be real….can it?

    1. John

      That is not really DERP. Derp is just stupid. That is genocidal and evil. All they accomplish by writing this sort of shit is to confirm the paranoia of the radical right. its like they secretly want the country to go full Nazi or something.

        1. John

          Sadly, there is stuff like this that isn’t a hoax. These people are nuts.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Yes. John.

    2. Worker and Parasite

      I think Medusa Mag is parody.

    3. Tonio

      This was discussed earlier in the single payer thread. Majority seemed to favor parody.

      1. Just Say’n

        And we’re suppose to go with the majority opinion? Do you even libertarian, brah?

        1. John Titor

          Should you be off eating George Bernard Shaw or something?

          1. Just Say’n

            Had him for lunch. I’m good

        2. Q Continuum

          Consensus!

    4. Playa Manhattan

      No way that’s real. But then again, I’ve said that about a lot of things that turned out to be true.

    5. John Titor

      Was posted earlier today. I thought it was satire from the titles alone, and if you do some googling a bunch of people claim the site is registered to an anti-SJW activist. Also I googled a couple of the writers’ names and they either have no internet presence or just showed up earlier this year.

    6. Juvenile Bluster

      Poe’s law in force. The rational part of my brain tells me it HAS to be “A Modest Proposal” type satire, but nothing about progressive thought nowadays is rational.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        It’s why the Onion turned out to be pre-cognition, rather than parody.

    7. BigGreg

      That… That has to be parody.

  15. tarran

    When you are a moron, the guys selling nice things to customers who want them are ‘shady’
    The Shady Way Shops Beat America’s 25-Year Car Import Rule

    Officially, the ban on import cars younger than 25 years old is to keep unsafe and unclean vehicles off American roads, but the laws were passed more to protect U.S. dealers from the competition of cars directly imported from other markets.

    The laws do not stop people from trying to score a banned vehicle, and so a number of dealers present themselves as top-notch experts on the intricacies of importing prized Japanese domestic market vehicles into the U.S—despite being fully cognizant of the fuzzy line between state and federal regulations.

    Sources with knowledge of these JDM grey market say dealers skirt federal import laws through familiar methods for illegally shipping vehicles into the U.S.

    In particular, they say, the companies have vehicles shipped over in parts and reassembled in the states; one source said that, thanks to Canada’s less restrictive import laws—15 years instead of 25—that grey market sellers will have the cars physically driven south, to be left in states with less-restrictive titling laws, like Florida.

    Article preview thumbnail
    Here’s How People Illegally Import Cars To The United States

    As many of you know, I’m currently in the midst of importing a Nissan Skyline GT-R to the…

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    “The thing to note is that, depending on the case, it’s technically smuggling and/or fraud if that’s in essence what they’re doing,” said Will Hedrick, a North Carolina attorney and import law expert.

    Hedrick was the lawyer who handled a pro bono case against the U.S. government that helped return two dozen imported Land Rover Defenders to their owners after they were seized in 2014. He only spoke with Jalopnik generally about importing, not any specific litigation or cases.

    Dealers also have to register as legal importers with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the U.S. car safety regulator. There’s also the Environmental Protection Agency’s list of independent commercial importers authorized to modify non-conforming vehicles to bring them into compliance with emissions standards—one of the biggest struggles when it comes to importing a vehicle and attempting to get it up to legal snuff.

    Put simply, if a car wants to be driven on U.S. roads, it has a bevy of regulations to meet. If a car is imported, and it doesn’t meet those regulations, it risks being crushed, and the importers could face fines or jail time.

    “Bottom line, any car sought to be driven on U.S. roads must meet the applicable federal standards in effect as of the date of that vehicle’s production, unless otherwise exempted or excluded” under something like the Show and Display rule, Hedrick told Jalopnik.

    Basically, the government is destroying perfectly good cars, and the blame lies in the people bringing the cars into the U.S. and not the actual entity destroying goods.

    1. DOOMco

      “It’s for SAFTEY!”
      “But at 25 years old, I can drive it? what safety features does a car that old have?”

    2. John

      I had a German spec 1983 BMW 3 series when I was over there. Sadly, it was not yet 25 years old and I couldn’t bring it home. God I loved that car. It was a first generation 3-series back when BMWs were still awesome.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      I had no idea that was actually a law.

      Jesus F Christ.

      1. Why else would the Japanese waste money Assembling in the US?

        1. R C Dean

          Literal shiploads of new foreign cars are driven off of, well, ships in the US all the time. Both of the Deanmobiles were driven off of a ship from Japan as brand new cars and sold to us without a hitch.

          I am deeply confused by this rule.

          1. Don’t ruin a bad joke with facts!

          2. The Last American Hero

            Those cars are built for U.S. specs to be sold in the US. I believe the rules in question are for cars built to Japanese/Euro specs. If you wanted to buy a brand new BMW from Germany, the car would have to be converted for US specs before it could be sold here. Or you could go down to your local BMW dealer and buy one built for sale in the US.

          3. grrizzly

            There’s such a thing as BMW European Delivery.

          4. Bobarian LMD

            Still has to meet US specs to legally come here.

            A JDM car, for instance, is going to be RHD. And both Europe and Japan have different emission standards; not necessarily less restrictive, just different.

      2. Mad Scientist

        Registering a gray market import is super risky. If you pull it off, great! If not, a rare car or motorcycle is about to be destroyed.

      3. DOOMco

        there are a good number of videos of people trying to get a skyline registered here.

        1. Vhyrus

          No point to now since they sell the best version here. You just need $100,000 and the… oh, wait… damn.

          1. DOOMco

            I’d love a 1st gen impreza WRX.
            the 22B is beautiful.

          2. Vhyrus

            You can get a 2.5 RS and do an engine swap. That’s about as close as you’ll ever get.

          3. DOOMco

            there are a few people who have gone that route. Another popular one is the Outback Sport with a WRX engine and drivetrain. OBS is a bit harder from what I’ve read.

        2. AceDroman

          I saw a skyline a few months back. I had no idea what it was but one of the guys I was with is into import tuning and about shit himself when he saw it, and would not leave the driver alone for half an hour.

    4. R C Dean

      the ban on import cars younger than 25 years old

      *Looks at Mercedes dealership, scratches head, shrugs*

      1. Tonio

        Confusing, but I think it means you get a pass on safety and emissions standards for antique cars. If you try to privately import a newer vehicle it has to comply.

        1. John

          It was always fun telling Europeans that US emissions standards were stricter than Europe. It wasn’t always the case. But the 1990 Clean Air Act revisions (Thanks Bush) made US standards stricter than about anywhere else in the world and killed the grey market for cars in the process.

        2. DOOMco

          Antique cars are locked at pre 75 in CO.
          You can import a 1990 GTR, and then not be able to drive it here until it passes emissions. not the US in 1990 emissions, 2016 brand new car emissions.

    5. DOOMco

      I also fucking hate that emissions crap. Trying to take an import car to todays standards is near impossible. It basically means you have to replace the engine with something made today.
      If my truck was 14 months newer, I couldn’t drive it. it would take thousands, including a new engine.
      I can’t change it to a diesel, unless the engine I pick was also sold new in that exact model truck.
      But mine is so old they don’t care. and so I spew terrible things into the air.
      Instead of allowing a skyline to stay mostly stock, which is far cleaner, they want you to get a new car, or a very old car.
      no emissions or a fuckton. the middle is anarchy.

      1. Tundra

        The only emissions control on mine is the Lucas electrical 😉

        1. DOOMco

          I got some pictures coming soon. I have to do the gas line still.

          1. Tundra

            Great! I have mine apart, too. Clutch master leaked and fucked up the paint on the firewall. Because I’m OCD, I decided to fix it now.

          2. DOOMco

            That’s too bad. leak fixed or will you have to replace it?

          3. Tundra

            Bore and piston looked fine – rebuilt it. I tore the brake master apart and did that as well. I’m debating whether to switch to DOT5 (which doesn’t eat paint), but the last rebuild lasted 17 years, so…

        2. Bobarian LMD

          The only emissions control on mine is the Lucas electrical

          Since it won’t start, it doesn’t produce emissions?

          1. Tundra

            Bingo!

    6. The cocksuckers are doing the same thing with construction equipment and heavy trucks in California under the Carl Moyer program. Its like they are giving the middle finger to third world nations that use the secondary and tertiary American market as their sole means of sourcing equipment they can afford.

      Progressives are evil. Their economic policies are designed to push poor people into mass graves. And they don’t seem to give a fuck. The sooner they are swept completely from all power in the regulation and administration of the business and commerce of the world the better for all of mankind.

      1. Mad Scientist

        My wife’s boss has a couple of absurdly-low-miles heavy trucks that are nearly worthless now because of that shit.

        1. The guys at Long Beach got it worst. They have like a 2-3 year window now on their trucks. Trucks that are designed to go a million miles and they’re being forced to retire them with 50-60k on them. Meanwhile, guys are allowed to drive in from across the border on a daily basis and use trucks of any age, thanks to NAFTA allowing them to (but not letting people from Arizona do the same since the EPA allowed them to enforce laws that essentially restrict interstate commerce).

          1. DOOMco

            Sloopy, does your company ever end up parting that equipment out? At some point I’d like to have an Izuzu 4bd1t or 4bt swapped.
            The Toyota diesels are a little hard to come by.

          2. You can find it on most any old NPR in a junkyard. Hell, they should be a dime a dozen from a guy that specializes in scrap commercial trucks.

            Call prestige equipment just outside of Denver. I bet John Paglione or one of his guys could get you one quick and cheap They’re good people.

          3. DOOMco

            noted! thanks.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    This can’t really be John.

    “Those eyes, that stair. ”

    I reserve judgement.

    1. Tonio

      Stare? There are no steps.

        1. Tonio

          Lulz. Well-done, Titor.

          But this is usage, not grammar.

          1. Schnirt Gurgleburger

            Aye

    2. Hyperion

      Well, we’ll know soon enough.

  17. Dr. Fronkensteen

    Why teachers Suck. Need to fill out government forms and need more resources (money).

    https://bertfulks.com/2017/06/10/why-teachers-suck/

    1. Viking1865

      On the subject of vouchers, we’ve got to change our perspective. You’re not paying taxes to educate your own kids. You’re paying to educate your neighbor’s kids, and that’s a terrific investment, because who wants dumb neighbors?

      Fuck off, slaver.

      Susan says lawsuits are now “common place,” and schools usually settle out of court to avoid expensive legal battles. One student in her school was recently caught selling her mom’s prescription pills at school.

      “Cut and dried, right?” Not so fast. “The parents said it was the school’s fault that she stole her mom’s meds and sold them because the school didn’t diagnose her with ADHD.” The parents filed a lawsuit and the school district settled out of court.

      “This happens all the time.”

      What, schools don’t have the same “Fuck you!” immunity cops have?

      Then the endless parade of bullshit that every fucking teacher is a sainted martyr pouring her own money into these poor deprived yutes.

      Typical fucking horsehshit. I fucking hate teachers, and I am proud to say it.

      1. Caput Lupinum

        Susan says lawsuits are now “common place,” and schools usually settle out of court to avoid expensive legal battles.

        Ok, the selling of pills and blaming it on the school not diagnosing the child is bullshit that should have been laughed out of any court, but 2 issues.

        1. Why the Hell are there enough people that believe that a school has the duty to identify, diagnose, and treat mental health issues that such a case wouldn’t be immediately thrown out? Focus on teaching, and maybe you’ll get better results in education.

        2. I know damn well from personal experience that schools get sued for very good reasons that relate directly to the education of children. When you fail so badly at your core mission, don’t be surprised when people want to leave. It doesn’t help when you hide those legitimate failings behind stuff like this.

    2. Heroic Mulatto
      1. Schnirt Gurgleburger

        Well, they deleted that.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Try again.

  18. Pope Jimbo

    Who’d a thunk it? Apparently the craft hooch industry has an unwritten code of ethics.

    Caveman distillery finds out that if you go to a web site named after them, it is redirected to their competitor’s site. More technically advanced company doesn’t confirm or deny that they had anything to do with it, but the shady redirect is now gone. Personally, I have no time for anyone who complains about shit like this. Spend a few extra dollars and make sure you have your bases covered.

    “We’re exploring what else we can do to recoup what [Norseman has] taken from us, essentially,” Kreidler told City Pages by phone. “They received a pretty significant uptick in web traffic. There’s an unwritten code of ethics in the industry — you just don’t do something like this.”

    City Pages named Norseman the Best Distillery of 2017; Tattersall won in 2016.

    I like the fact that there might be bad blood between these two champions. Like Bird vs Magic.

    1. Juice

      “Our attorney is looking into the matter and we will be issuing a cease and desist letter to Norseman,”

      Why? What law or property right did they violate?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        I think it really depends on how the redirect works. If it sent you off to Norseman distillery’s site and it was clear it was Norseman’s site, I don’t think they have any case. If they tried to put up a site that looked sort of like their competitor’s site then they might be in trouble.

      2. R C Dean

        Fraud? Putting up a website with the name of a competitor to redirect traffic to yourself sure sounds like fraud to me.

        Also, a trademark infringement, assuming they registered their trademark competently.

        1. Juice

          How is it fraud? Who’s fooled into thinking they’re at Tattersall’s site when it says Norseman all over it?

        2. Juice

          Reminds me of that whole RonPaul.com fiasco a few years ago. It was disgraceful for Ron Paul to sic lawyers on the people who ran that site (in support of him, no less) even though it was clearly stated that the site was not run or owned by Ron Paul or was it officially affiliated with Ron Paul.

  19. John Titor

    Mentioned this recently before, but the ongoing mass DNA tests on Egyptian mummies is pretty solidly debunking the ‘black Egyptians’ hypothesis. Turns out that from the mummies they’ve tested in the New Kingdom period Egyptians actually had less of a connection with sub-Saharan Africa than they do today.

    WE WUZN’T KANGS (as if Afrocentrists will take DNA evidence seriously).

    1. Science is Racist, yo.

      1. Worker and Parasite

        Tricknology, yo.

    2. Just Say’n

      The key word here is ‘The New Kingdom’. Alexander the Great put his own people as the royal house after his successful invasion of Egypt, which would explain why theses pharaohs were not African. I highly doubt that the royal house during the Old Kingdom and Middle Kingdom were not, at least in part, African

      1. The oldest were from about 1388 BC

        Alexander III of Macedon (20/21 July 356 BC – 10/11 June 323 BC), commonly known as Alexander the Great

        I think they’re including pre-Ptolomaic mummies in there…

      2. Just Say’n

        OK, I misread the story at first. It would appear that this study covers more than the royal family. I’m going to stick with my original thought, though, that the Middle Kingdom and Old Kingdom would show more African ancestry.

        1. John Titor

          This is also just one testing group they’ve been working with. There’s been a large scale three year program to get testing done on mummies from various locations and places in the hierarchy.

      3. John Titor

        New Kingdom period began over a thousand years before Alexander was even born, you’re thinking of the Ptolemaic period. The New Kingdom period is when Egypt was at the height of its geopolitical and cultural dominance, when their borders spanned from northern Ethiopia to Syria.

        There’s several dynasties we know were likely Nubian, but the evidence is pointing to ancient Egyptians overwhelmingly being based around Levantine Semitic populations, not sub-Saharan African.

        1. Just Say’n

          Do you even Hittite, bra?

          1. … *fails to properly word joke about Ramses’ nose being too pronounced*

        2. jesse.in.mb

          I blame the Hyksos

        3. mr simple

          I thought they were more Hamitic than Semitic, but you probably have the most updated info.

      4. Gadfly

        ‘New Kingdom’ predates Alexandrian conquest by ~700 years, although the article does say the mummies came from the New Kingdom to Roman period, so it’s fairly broad. The more pertinent fact is that the mummies came from Lower Egypt (the north), and it really should surprise no one that northern Egyptians had more in common with the Middle Easterners next door than the Africans a thousand miles south.

        1. Gadfly

          Well, someone should learn to hit “refresh” before commenting…

      5. Pan Zagloba

        FWIW Wiki defines New Kingdom as 16-11 century BC. Centuries before Alexander came by.

    3. Vhyrus

      Of course it’s all a grand conspiracy by the white devil to discredit and disenfranchise their noble lineage.

    4. So they’re settling the science?

    5. John

      A classicist named Mary Lefkowitz pretty much demolished that bullshit back in the 1990s. Here is a response to her from the author of Black Athena. It is an amazing piece of derp. It is one of those things so stupid only intellectuals could believe it.

      http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/1996/96.04.05.html

      1. IntraveneousWoodChipper

        As someone who went to grad school for classics, I can report that it is rapidly becoming intellectually vapid at only moderately less-terrifying rate than the rest of the humanities.

        Still being eaten away from the inside by post-modernism and critical theory tripe, unfortunately.

    6. Gilmore

      as if Afrocentrists will take DNA evidence seriously

      Keep them out of your statements that are not factually based, thank you

      they know that the Deena is just tricknology

  20. Juvenile Bluster

    Wife called me in a panic to tell me that when she went to pick up our daughter from camp, they couldn’t find her. It’s not like it should be difficult; the building isn’t that huge, and everything’s indoors. Called me back 10 minutes later to tell me they’d finally found her.

    I’m going in the morning to raise hell. They actually did this last year as well, though I excused that because she’d fallen asleep on a couch in the corner of a room that faced towards the wall. Time to demand some money back or I’m finding a new camp.

    1. Vhyrus

      I thought you had to pay a little extra to get them to lose your kid.

    2. Mad Scientist

      OMWC Summer Camp

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Camp Motto: “You’ll get your kid back in one piece…eventually. But they’ll never look at you the same way again.”

    3. Fatty Bolger

      She’s obviously afraid to go home. Child services en route.

    4. The Last American Hero

      I hear there are monocle polishing internships out there, unless you think she’d be better suited for the mines.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        My daughter doesn’t get a monetary allowance. Her chores are done by her very own orphans. She’ll stay that way until she’s ready for her own monocle.

    5. Maybe she was in Narnia eating Turkish Delight (aka: powdered fruitcake).

    6. Pope Jimbo

      This might make me a giant pussy, but I feel for your wife. Nothing is worse than when you can’t find your kid. I like to laugh about helicopter parents as much as anyone, but when you do have that “oh shit” moment it totally sucks.

      When my daughter was 4 or 5 we were going out to eat and we all went out side to get in the car. A few distractions and having to belt her baby brother in later we were ready to put her in the car. No where to be found. We checked the house, the garage and the back yard thinking she was there. Nothing. FUCK. My daughter has always been pretty fearless so we figured she wandered off to the playground to play. Got in the car and drove around the block looking while Mrs. Holiness ransacked the manor grounds again. Still nothing. Double FUCK. We were just about to go ask neighbors if they had seen her when we heard a giggle from the back of the swagger wagon. We found her hiding under a bench seat. After hugging and shaking her, we asked her why she was back there. “I was practicing my hiding. Never know when you’ll need it.”

      That she lived past that incident is a testament to my good nature and parenting skills.

      1. Tundra

        I agree with you. My daughter got separated from us in Mexico. It was only for a short time, but it was unpleasant.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          My daughter once got bored shopping with the wife and aunt in Japan and decided to just walk home. She was six or so. Things were all OK by the time I got back, but I think that the local mall was terrorized by two Korean mama bears looking for their cub.

          1. Vhyrus

            My understanding of Japan is that a six year old walking by herself is a not entirely unusual condition.

          2. Caput Lupinum

            Yes, but the little girl not getting molested by a Lovecraftian horror with more tentacles than even SugerFree’s dark imagination could conjure is remarkable.

          3. Pope Jimbo

            No, they deal with it much better than we do. Korea is even more lax with letting their kids play where ever they want.

            More of a panic by the women that she had been right there and then she was gone. They weren’t so upset by the idea that she had been abducted but by the fact that if she was lost, she was going to have a hard time telling anyone where she lived.

          4. I got lost in the NYC Museum of Natural History once when I was about five. My parents were chaperoning my sister’s Girl Scout troop, and as a kid sibling I had to go along since they couldn’t get a baby sitter. I stayed to look at one exhibit while everybody else went on.

            I got the brilliant idea to go to the ground floor and stand by the entrance to the bathrooms nearest where we entered because I knew the girls would have to go to the potty before leaving.

          5. R C Dean

            And thus began a lifelong habit of hanging out around women’s restrooms.

          6. Better than Larry Craig’s habit.

      2. Hyperion

        Yeah, that doesn’t make you a giant pussy, there’s not much of anything that could be more terrifying than thinking your kid is missing.

  21. Fatty Bolger

    Brooke Burke has aged

    But only from the neck up.

    1. John

      Isn’t everything from the neck down bionic anyway?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        That would explain the strange sound track from her sex tape

    2. She looks a bit rough.

      Plus, how low do you have to slip to get saddled with the “stake out Brook Burke on her vacation and get a few snaps with her hubby” beat? What, was Tori Spelling not on holiday and the “reporter” had free time to slip over to the Burke coverage?

      1. John

        I don’t think she looks too bad. Her body actually looks less plastic than it did back in the day. She almost looks real.

        1. C. Anacreon

          Who is she? Not trying to be funny. I’ve really never heard of her.
          Was she on some show I was too old for, like “Saved by the Bell”?

    3. Mad Scientist

      Send those semaphores!

      1. Pope Jimbo

        What’s a semihore? Some chick who only sells it on the weekend?

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Its the same thing as a ‘Lot Lizard’.

    4. Q Continuum

      Still would.

  22. Texas high school students know how to troll better than most adults.

    Good for them.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      I think just having a boys only program is some excellent trolling. How the fuck do they get away with that?

      1. Vhyrus

        They’re simply making it historically accurate.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          -1 pair of pink sneakers worn for 13 hours straight.

      2. Don’t they do that in Minnesota? I thought they had a Boys State (and a separate Girls State) in most stats.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Huh. I guess we do: http://www.mnboysstate.org/

          I remember the nerds going to model UN as a kid, but never heard of Boys State. Of course, you probably had to show up in class to hear about that sort of thing.

    2. Viking1865

      I did Boy’s State. Fascinating microcosm of government. Basically you spend a week there, and mock out a state. The dorms are towns, with mayors, sheriffs. Each dorm sends two reps and a Senator, and their are two parties that run for the statewide offices of G, LG, and AG. There’s also various other mock civic institutions.

      This was a population that was obviously all male, and being an American Legion run civics camp held at Liberty University, you can imagine exactly what kinds of males were there. I’d say 70% were right wing, 28% were apolitical, and 2% were leftist. Funniest thing. That 2%, every single one of them chose to work at the newspaper, and they published every day. So literally every day the newspaper was full of thumb-sucking concern pieces about how there was no political diversity at Boy’s State, whatsoever.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    R C Dean on June 26, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    the ban on import cars younger than 25 years old

    *Looks at Mercedes dealership, scratches head, shrugs*

    Probably too late, but-

    Models not officially certified by EPA and NHTSA(?) for emissions and safety compliance. “Grey market” cars used to be banned for stuff like not having sealed beam headlamps and 5mph bumpers as well as emissions equipment.

  24. Pope Jimbo

    Poor, poor, poor farmers.

    A story about how dairy farmers are having a hard time getting help because the unemployment rate is so low in Minnesoda. They’ve tried everything! (except you know raising wages).

    Most of the story is goofy, but read this quote from a farmer:

    “I guess we’re looking for one of two things,” he said. “If we could get visas for immigrants … if we had a visa, they would be able to have a driver’s license, they could have insurance, they would be legal to be here that would be important. If our government is unwilling to do that, that’s fine. If they could get us some low-interest money for technology that would finance us so we could adapt some of this new technology, there’s different ways to milk cows now.”

    Uffda! Have you heard of such unreasonable suffering? How dare the taxpayers not dole out some free money so they can all upgrade their technology?

  25. ArchieBunker

    Thanks to Gilmore and BP for talking me into taking a grinder to my guitar and then talking me out of it in the morning links. I didn’t see your responses until after everyone had migrated to to next post. Anyway, I will probably try it out one day when I have a spare nut and nothing better to do.

    1. You’re taking your guitar to Grindr?

      1. Vhyrus

        Apparently he’s also looking for an extra testicle.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Well, he ain’t gonna get any on Grindr based on his looks alone. He has to play the guitar to get the lovin’….

        1. jesse.in.mb

          He has to play the guitar to get the lovin’….

          What is this, Norway?*

          *When I was in Bosnia me, a rando American guy and a rando Norwegian girl were handing out and she invited us back to her hostel, but told us to go grab our guitars. We were deeply confused since neither of us played. “How do guys get girlfriends in the US if they can’t play the guitar?” was her explanation.

          1. Tundra

            “How do guys get girlfriends in the US if they can’t play the guitar?”

            Money seems to do the trick…

          2. Pope Jimbo

            Big swinging dicks. That’s how baby.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            Go on…

          4. Pope Jimbo

            A big swinging dick. Probably NSFW

          5. Pope Jimbo

            Or if you like, a big black swinging dick. (SFW)

          6. grrizzly

            In the senior year of HS I was among 2 or 3 people (out of 20+ students in our class) who didn’t play guitar.

          7. jesse.in.mb

            I bet you were pretty bummed about your lack of girlfriend too.

      3. ArchieBunker

        Gonna get the ol gal hooked up with a mandolin. You know a better way?

    2. Tundra

      Lol. Then I won’t talk about using playing cards to raise it…

    3. Gilmore

      Thanks to Gilmore and BP for talking me into taking a grinder to my guitar and then talking me out of it in the morning links. I

      lol

      its actually not that big a deal if its an electric guitar w/ a bolt on neck;

      with an acoustic with a glued-in neck, you can fuck it up pretty bad. it depends. i’ve never owned a lot of acoustics (i’ve had an Ovation and a Takamine, both of which were beaters), but i’m just generally not a fan of doing work on guitars if you don’t absolutely *need* to. In 90% of the cases you’re more likely to create more problems than you’ll solve. in the case of an acoustic, for instance, you can fuck up the intonation by moving the nut without also making adjustments to the saddle. its not worth it if the thing is already perfectly playable and stays in tune.

      1. ArchieBunker

        My saddle can be adjusted and now that I’m home and looking at it the nut doesn’t look difficult to change out if I do it. Now that I’ve pondered this for the day I think it would help me on bar chords to file down. And I am confident in my ability to do it right. Though I generally go with the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” mentality, so I am a little reluctant. I just want to play like Jimmy Hendrix so whatever will do that.

        1. Caput Lupinum

          Nuts are easy. Take off the strings, grab it with some pliers if it is stuck in there and pull. You could also get replacement nuts that are lower than factory and try them instead of messing with filing them yourself. Don’t like the new action, and you can replace it in a few minutes.

          Regardless of what anyone tells you though, under no circumstances should you mess with the frets themselves. Trying to file them down to remove buzz and you’ll end up taking the guitar to a Luther to get fixed. Or bugging some rather expensive specialty tools. Or just destroying the fingerboard and buying a new guitar, like my idiot friend.

          1. Caput Lupinum

            Luthier, not Luther, buying not bugging, damn phone etc.

          2. ArchieBunker

            I don’t see how filing the frets would be good. When I started I thought it would have been easier to learn with higher frets but that’s nothing I was gonna try and change out

          3. Caput Lupinum

            He bought a second hand guitar that had been played heavily, and the frets hasn’t written evenly. They never do. Anyway, he was having problems with buzzing due to the uneven frets, and got the idea to file them down.

            This is something that will eventually need to be done on a guitar, and there are specialty files to re-level the frets, and other files to reshape them after leveling. He had neither, and proceeded to royally mess up his frets.

            He then got the bright idea of removing the frets and buying some fret wire to replace the damaged frets.

            Frets are do not come out easily. He ended up completely destroying the neck of his guitar, and ended up finally taking it to an actual luthier.

            Original cost of fixing the frets would have been about $50, but he ended up paying over $400. Moral of the story, read up on anything before attempting it, watch a few videos of people doing it, and if it at all seems like a bad idea out beyond your current skill, don’t do it. Guitars, like all instruments, are built with a high amount of precision, and it is very easy to turn a $5,000 guitar into one that sounds like a $50 guitar if you don’t know what you’re doing.

        2. Gilmore

          . I just want to play like Jimmy Hendrix so whatever will do that

          drop your tuning a half-step, get some Ronsonol, drop some acid, play the blues.

          1. Tundra

            He’ll have to string the guitar upside down and switch hands, as well.

      2. Old Man With Candy

        i’ve had an Ovation and a Takamine

        I’m distressed that we have the same acoustics. My Tak is the lawsuit model, the Ovation is an acoustic/electric.

        1. Gilmore

          I’m distressed that we have the same acoustics.

          why be distressed? they’re both some of the best value-per-$ acoustics you can get under $500/$1000 (ovation/tak, respectively)

          i think above $1k, you might as well buy entry level martin or a taylor.

          the ovations are sort of the best-in-class for “travel guitars”, or things for a kid to play which will survive abuse and not suffer from humidity-damage.

    4. Anyway, I will probably try it out one day when I have a spare nut and nothing better to do.

      Unless you’re Lance Armstrong, you should have a spare nut every day.

      1. ArchieBunker

        That would have been funny back in 2008…..

    5. Tacit Rainbow

      If you can, borrow a set of files from a shop or luthier. They make files in the correct width for different strings (EADG), which is especially useful for bass. I had to make a new nut after one broke on my bass. It took a second try with the right files to make it work.

      1. ArchieBunker

        I was planing on filing it with a small drill bit (without the drill) . Seems like it would work well in theory anyway.

  26. John

    http://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=32426

    Democrats starting to face their Pelosi problem.

    1. Vhyrus

      As badly as I want to see her gone, they’re just going to replace her with another prog moron.

      1. DOOMco

        Diane?

        1. Mad Scientist

          Kamala?

          1. bacon-magic

            Clayton Bigsby.

      2. John

        It will be like when Beria replaced Yezhov. Sure it was nice seeing the malignant dwarf finally get his but the replacement was not exactly an improvement.

      3. John Titor

        Meh, I’m kind of in favour of keeping the old bats around, if only to make the Democrats look like the new party of old, degenerate fucks. When your ‘youth candidate’ is an almost eighty year old guy who reminds them of their grandpa it’s kind of hilarious.

      4. Chipwooder

        I hope she stays in the leadership forever. Nothing could hurt their chances of doing anything more than Pelosi continuing to steer the ship.

      5. Hyperion

        Please let it be Maxine Waters, we need the lulz.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      I would love to see her press conference if she lost her leadership role. I think she’d pop a gasket and go on a rant that would sink the Democratic party for 20 years.

      1. grrizzly

        I remember I was surprised when Pelosi didn’t resign as the Party leader in the House… in 2010.

        1. An undead creature like that never leaves a post willingly.

          1. Caput Lupinum

            Not until someone threatens her phylactery.

      2. Whiskeyjack

        Couldn’t find the video but I think it would be like the college president going off in the movie PCU.

    3. Old Man With Candy

      When will Team Red face their Trump problem? Oh yeah, when he costs them elections. Because it’s all OK if the Team wins.

  27. BakedPenguin

    “Keuchel, mired in his second 10-day disabled list stint because of a pinched nerve in his neck…”

    The fuck? pinched nerve? Also, one of the main Astro pitchers is named Dallas? Just a bowl of WTF…

  28. Juvenile Bluster

    Colbert for President 2020! Why the hell not!

    He can pick Al Franken as his VP!

    1. John

      I am not sure what is sadder; the fact that the Democrats could actually do that or the fact that they would be shocked when Trump won re-election.

    2. Vhyrus

      I would say he would be at least as entertaining as Trump but the latest incarnation of ‘The Tonight Show’ is so far disproving that theory.

      1. It would be a novelty to see two fake conservatives running…

    3. John Titor

      “Ladies and gentleman, please welcome the 46th President of the United States: Stephen T. Colbert.”

      That has a nice sound to it, and given Colbert’s comments over the weekend…

      Really bloody subtle about your bias there CNN.

      I still think Random Lefty Celebrity 2020 is what the Democrats are going to end up doing. Whether it’s Colbert, Oprah or whomever (it won’t be Zuckerberg because that man has problems just pretending to be human).

      1. John

        When Zuckerberg visited Iowa last weekend, he said it was “his kind of place”. IN response some friend of Iowahawk tweeted “Alcoholism, sexual frustration and child sacrifices to barbaric corn gods.”

        1. John Titor

          That’s the fake North Korean propaganda twitter that Popehat runs.

          1. John

            I thought it was someone else. Popehat is never that funny.

          2. Juvenile Bluster

            It’s run by Popehat’s co-blogger Patrick.

    4. Hyperion

      It’s like Water Boy syndrome.

  29. Juvenile Bluster

    So, the media and progressives are banging the drum on he new CBO score on Trumpcare: “22 MILLION PEOPLE UNINSURED!” HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE!

    None of them bother to mention that the vast majority of those 22 million are people who will choose to go without health insurance since they aren’t being forced to buy it.

    (also, fuck Trumpcare, it’s Obamacare with a pretty colored bow on it. Full repeal or don’t bother)

    1. Vhyrus

      Something something enemy of good.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Would apply if Trumpcare was even “good”…

    2. Pope Jimbo

      What about families like mine? Our deductible is now so high that we avoid having minor shit fixed up. I was much better off before Obamacare because I had good insurance that I could use.

      1. Tundra

        It’s the bill coming due for all your white privilege.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Hey, I live in the barrio of East Maple Grove! How does that qualify for white privilege?

          If anyone, you are the one who is going to be first when the people rise up, living in toney west Maple Grove.

          1. Tundra

            Maybe, but I can escape quickly into the adjacent farmland. Proggies can’t abide rural areas!

          2. Pope Jimbo

            Well there is no mass transit to the boonies. And since none of the proggies have a driver’s license (much less a car) you are safe from them. As long as you stay off the bike trails.

          3. R C Dean

            -1 flat tire

      2. Viking1865

        I had good insurance that I could use.

        Because of your privilege. You didn’t build that. We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.

      3. Juvenile Bluster

        Pre-Obamacare I had a PPO with fairly low co-pays and a managable deductible. Now I have a HDHP (where the deductible has more than doubled since I got it) and I pay more for the privilege than what I paid when I had a PPO.

    3. Q Continuum

      They are all cowards and sycophants to lobbyists. All of them. They can get anally reamed sideways with a tire iron. You vote to repeal 60 TIMES when King O. was in office, now that it would actually be signed into law your testicles magically go missing. It’s pathetic.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Because it was obvious. They never wanted to repeal. They voted for it knowing it would get vetoed. They voted for it to look good. Nothing more.

        1. Viking1865

          That’s really not fair IMO. If the US was a unicameral legislature with a prime minister and not a President, then Obamacare would have been repealed years ago. But the system doesn’t work that way. Inertia works both ways: bad policy, once it is implemented, is just as hard to get rid of as it was to pass in the first place.

      2. Viking1865

        They have the thought process of “a straight repeal wouldn’t pass the Senate. So we’re not going to waste time passing it.” Well maybe they’re right. Maybe they’re wrong. But simply pass a repeal bill in the House, and see if it passes the Senate. At least make the fucking Senate vote on it, up or down, yay or nea. This is one of the ways that the progs win even when they lose: everything is done in 2 thousand page omnibus bills, and the average person can’t read through it or understand it. But everyone in the media is telling them it’s a good bill or a bad bill (depending on who’s bill it is) and that’s where they get their opinions.

        You cut through the Gordian Knot with a sword, you don’t pick at it with your fingers.

    4. bacon-magic

      I stand with Rand.

      1. Hyperion

        Me too, let it burn and let Democrats try to replace it.

    1. Q Continuum

      At edge of seat, I am.

    2. Mad Scientist

      TSA officers are skilled at screening all sorts of items in checked baggage

      So, it’s a comedy article?

      1. More like a tragedy. I was hoping for lobster girl.

      2. Hyperion

        They’re apparently really good at making those things disappear too.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      So if it is legal, why are they yanking it out of the luggage and taking pics with it?

      Just Be Claws?

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      “I have learned a lot this semester about the power of words”

      Here’s what I don’t get.

      She’s the dean. How could she not have known this beforehand? Being dean implies a certain intelligence;wisdom that goes beyond academia.

      I guess I ask for too much.

      Leaving such a comment – on Yelp no less – revealed an incredibly lack of judgment, respect and reminded that inner-prejudices transcends race or creed. It’s been nothing short of disgraceful and anti-intellectual to single out whites for such thoughts.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Fuck that noise. I don’t get what she said was wrong. She didn’t call all whiteys trash. She said that a certain place was great if you were white trash.

        Cracker please! Have a sense of humor.

  30. Juvenile Bluster

    Post from a prog friend of mine:

    Medicaid could lose almost $4 TRILLION over 20 years. Of course by then the GOP will probably have turned the world into a smoking husk.

    1. Tundra

      You should send them a piece of cake.

    2. DOOMco

      ughhhhsfasihpoagdsg

    3. Q Continuum

      I love how Medicaid not getting tax money is a “loss”. Up is down. Left is right. War is peace. Etc. etc. etc.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        The headline in the local paper today was something about how the GOP tax cuts in Minnesoda would “cost” the state $650M.

    4. kbolino

      Ah, multiplication. The dark art known only to those who have graduated the second grade.

    5. american socialist

      Uh isn’t federal govt only 350billon per year in medicaid?

      1. Hyperion

        Yeah, but it could have been 4 trillion if not for you kulaks and wreckers. America spending more on healthcare is good except when it’s being used to prove that every civilized country on earth spends less.

    6. Gilmore

      how can medicaid “lose” money it never had? Does this person think spending is an end in itself?

      why would you WANT to spend $4trillion on medicaid unless you had to? increasing enrollment in an inefficient program isn’t a measure of public-policy success.

      By that same logic, they could bemoan declining spending on unemployment benefits. “WE JUST CUT UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS BY X TRILLION!?! ” never mind that all those people got jobs.

  31. Pan Zagloba

    Speaking of Chesterton, his essay on Poland sums it up quite nicely.

    He’s referring to Polish army defeating Red Army* at Warsaw in 1920, stopping their westward progress and preventing them from conquering Poland and advancing into Germany to stir up the Communist revolution there. Something that was not forgiven by the European Right-Thinkers ever since.

    These critics commonly say that they are irritated with this romantic type because it always fails; so they are naturally even more irritated when it very frequently succeeds. People who are ready to shed tears of sympathy when the windmills overthrow Don Quixote are very angry indeed when Don Quixote really overthrows the windmills. People who are prepared to give a vain blessing to a forlorn hope are not unnaturally annoyed to find that the forlorn hope is comparatively hopeful and not entirely forlorn. Even the most genial of these realists, Mr. Bernard Shaw, would be a little vexed if he had to reverse the whole moral of Arms and the Man and admit that the Arms counted for a little less and the Man for a little more. He would be slightly put out, perhaps, if the celebrated artillery duel really took place, and the sentimental Sergius blew the realistic Bluntzschli to pieces. But that is almost exactly what has really happened in modern Europe to-day.

    *when Stalin supposedly fucked over Trotsky, both leading a column each

    1. Vhyrus

      Apparently criticism of anything is now _______ shaming.

    2. Mad Scientist

      Instead of shaming people, we should simply make their actions illegal and report them to the proper authorities.

    3. Viking1865

      But a nationwide poll of 475 mothers finds it’s a familiar experience for most with kids under age 5 — and the source of the shaming is most often a woman’s own parents.

      Hmmmm….I wonder what the breakdown on mom vs dad telling their daughter she’s doing it wrong is. Cuz I have a guess.

      The criticism usually comes from a mother’s own parents (37 percent); a spouse or child’s other parent (36 percent); and in-laws (31 percent).

      How dare the father opine about child rearing. His job is to donate sperm and fill up the bank account, he doesn’t get to actually have a say in how his kid is raised!

      Clark said discipline is especially apt to create opposing views — spanking versus timeouts, for instance, or setting strict rules versus giving kids the freedom to explore.

      I think it’s funny how this is set up as an opposing viewpoint. The amount of formal rules my parents had were very very few. But when I fucked up, there were pretty harsh consequences, which did include corporal punishment when I was younger. I guess the analogy would be that I had an enormous yard to roam in, but the fence was electrified and razor wired.

      Nowadays I see kids who are not actually disciplined, but the intervention is constant and unceasing. Rather than letting them play with their siblings, and stepping in when someone begins to bleed, they hover over and constantly defuse every possible conflict. I see the timeouts going hand in hand with strict rules, with the freedom to explore, in my experience, was paired with spanking.

      1. “I guess the analogy would be that I had an enormous yard to roam in, but the fence was electrified and razor wired.”

        Just like the above-ground break area in my monocle mine!

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        Pretty much. Plus they negotiate their kids.

        Never negotiate.

        Fuck Spock.

    4. Criticism is not shaming, you stupid unless cunts at the US National Library Of Medicine.*

      *(Nothing left to cut? My fucking ass!)

      1. What’s the point of criticizing people if it doesn’t cause a soul crushing sense of embarrassment and unworthiness? That’s like 85-90% of the fun.

  32. The reference to Poles and Chesterton reminds me of this Chesterton quote about whether women are an oppressed class (trigger warning: insensitive language, to put it mildly):

    “A Prussian does not feel from the first that he can only be happy if he spends his days and nights with a Pole. An Englishman does not think his house empty and cheerless unless it happens to contain an Irishman. A white man does not in his romantic youth dream of the perfect beauty of a black man. A railway magnate seldom writes poems about the personal fascination of a railway porter. All the other revolts against all the other relations are reasonable and even inevitable, because those relations are originally only founded upon force or self interest. Force can abolish what force can establish; self-interest can terminate a contract when self-interest has dictated the contract. But the love of man and woman is not an institution that can be abolished, or a contract that can be terminated. It is something older than all institutions or contracts, and something that is certain to outlast them all. All the other revolts are real, because there remains a possibility that the things may be destroyed, or at least divided. You can abolish capitalists; but you cannot abolish males. Prussians can go out of Poland or negroes can be repatriated to Africa; but a man and a woman must remain together in one way or another; and must learn to put up with each other somehow.”

    1. Gilmore

      Andrea Dworkin disagrees

      1. Raven Nation

        Sports spoiler – just in case.

        No miracles for Oracle this time.

    2. John Titor

      “It is not surprising that the lambs should bear a grudge against the great birds of prey, but that is no reason for blaming the great birds of prey for taking the little lambs. And when the lambs say among themselves, “These birds of prey are evil, and he who least resembles a bird of prey, who is rather its opposite, a lamb,—should he not be good?” then there is nothing to carp with in this ideal’s establishment, though the birds of prey may regard it a little mockingly, and maybe say to themselves, “We bear no grudge against them, these good lambs, we even love them: nothing is tastier than a tender lamb.”

      1. I think I recognize that quote. Hint: Not Chesterton

        1. John Titor

          Obviously, but it’s relevant to the idea of the ‘oppressed’ complaining about the ‘oppressor’.

  33. KibbledKristen

    McMansion Hell (one of the only good things on Tumblr) getting sued by Zillow. Zillow claims the pics do not meet the “parody, commentary, etc.” standard of the Copyright Act.

    1. jesse.in.mb

      That’s incredibly lame. I love McMansion Hell.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Even Popehat is weighing in. I don’t know what kind of law he practices, but maybe he can give the author a good referral and beat Zillow to the ground.

    2. Tundra

      Fuck. Site is gone.

      1. KibbledKristen

        YEah, she took it down out of an abundance of caution.

  34. KibbledKristen

    Some folks “quit” (i.e. were asked to resign) CNN after fake Russia article is published.

    Not surprisingly, a former NYT reporter is involved.

    A veteran of The New York Times who won a Pulitzer Prize for national reporting in 2006, Lichtblau joined CNN just three months ago.

    1. Gilmore

      The piece is by Brian Stelter, so you can be reasonably sure there’s a huge lie in there somewhere.

      oh, here it is =

      An internal investigation by CNN management found that some standard editorial processes were not followed when the article was published,

      1. KibbledKristen

        At least we know the NYT reporter’s involvement is totally true, though. Pretty sure they have a liars’ training program over there.

        1. Chipwooder

          Taught by the eminent Jayson Blair, holder of the prestigious Walter Duranty chair of institutionalized lying.

      2. Hyperion

        Well, it can’t have anything to do with lying or making up shit out of thin air, that’s their entire business model.

        1. Fatty Bolger

          I’m guessing that the word “actionable” came up while consulting with their lawyers about the situation.

    2. one true athena

      Throwing some people under the bus in an effort to regain credibility, perhaps? Like, “oh look, we fired these two, that means we totally back everything else we say, promise!”

      1. Gilmore

        Its like McDonald’s announced that they’ve fired the Hamburgler on suspicion of promoting unhealthy food habits

    3. thrakkorzog

      I’m sure next time they will be sure to also ask the Senate bathroom attendant for his anonymous opinion, that way they will have twice as many credible sources.

      1. C. Anacreon

        And this evening it was like they learned nothing from all of this. Don Lemon did a tease before going to commercial: “With all that we’re learning about Donald Trump and Russia collusion, is this all turning into ‘Watergate 2.0’?”

  35. Akira

    OT: Why do you think most societies have such a strong prohibition on homosexual relationships?

    It’s true that some societies had varying forms of homosexuality that were tolerated (such as Greek pederasty) but I’ve never heard of a society where it was acceptable – up until very recently – for a person to decide that they’re attracted to the same sex, have a gay marriage, and live happily ever after (if I’m wrong on that, please correct me). Why do you think this rule evolved in almost every culture in the world? It’s not likely that the idea came from one source because it appears in societies that never had contact with one another, almost as if there’s something about the early stages of human civilization that leads them to the conclusion that homosexuality is causing some kind of harm. (note: I have absolutely nothing against gay people, and I think they deserve the same rights as everyone else).

    Most societal norms evolve for a reason – they’re rules designed to promote a prosperous and civilized society. Rape, murder, stealing, and other misdeeds are destructive to society, so these rules exist as a mechanism to prevent a backslide to barbarism. Of course, human societies often come up with rules that cause no harm whatsoever if broken, but my point still stands because there is usually a belief that breaking this rule causes harm to society.

    But why was homosexuality counted among the greatest wrongs by most of the world up until very recently? What would possibly make people think that homosexuality is going to destroy their civilization if they don’t snuff it out and suppress it? The only justification I could think of is that in an age where population replacement was no easy task due to the high infant mortality rate as well as the high adult mortality rate, it seemed wasteful to have people expending sexual energy on an activity that stood no chance of producing any children. But there don’t seem to be very many social injunctions against heterosexual people who just fail to attract a mate. They might get ridiculed for their failure to get laid, but that’s about it.

    Any thoughts?

    1. Viking1865

      But there don’t seem to be very many social injunctions against heterosexual people who just fail to attract a mate

      Uh, gonna disagree on that front.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Seconded

        1. Viking1865

          I mean shit, I’m still south of 30, and a guy, and I was getting quite a few pointed questions about when I would get “serious”, settle down, and start producing munchkins. Childless women past 35 or so, I can’t even imagine how much shit they are on a daily basis.

          1. KibbledKristen

            They=me. 45, never married, no germ factory ankle-biters.

            I’m pretty cool with my life choices (regrets? I’ve had a few). I know people think I’m weird or whatever. But I’m pretty proud of being 100% self-sufficient and self-supporting. One of my friends once told me she hopes her daughter grows up to be 1/2 as independent as I am. By a MILE, best compliment anyone has ever given me.

          2. Fatty Bolger

            I’ve never understood why people try to pressure others into having kids. If you aren’t sure you want children, you probably shouldn’t have them.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            Same instinct as “Oh my god this smells terrible…check it out!” but with 18+ years of potential consequence.

          4. Pomp

            “Suffer with us, we totally made a great choice.”

          5. thrakkorzog

            Jesse, your theory lines up my own experience. I actually had that happen a while back. My sister has three daughters, the oldest is about four years older than the twins. So about a month after the twins were born, my sister was all, “You should come visit see the twins.” So I go down to visit, and my sister and her husband were sleep deprived wrecks from trying to deal with a 4-year old, plus two babies. I spent most of my time hanging with the four year old taking her to parks and the natural history museum, (She loves Dinosaurs.) all so my sister and her husband could take some naps.

            After about three days running myself ragged trying to keep up with a rambunctious four year old in order to help cure my sister and her husband’s sleep deprivation, my BiL says, “Thanks, you’re really great with kids, when are you going to settle down and have some of your own?”

          6. Hyperion

            “I know people think I’m weird or whatever”

            Who cares what those people think. Never married = smarter than most of us.

          7. KibbledKristen

            Not getting married and not having kids is not one of my regrets, believe me. I’m way, way happier when I’m on my own. One day, about a year after my ex had died from being a drunk, I woke up and realized how amazingly happy I was. I will never forget that feeling.

          8. Hyperion

            That happened to me after my first marriage as well. At first it was weird living in a big house in the middle of nowhere all by myself. So quiet, I felt a little sad that I’d ‘failed’ or maybe not me, but I’d let something fail. This went on for a couple of weeks and then I woke up one day and suddenly felt happier than I had been since I was a little kid. I felt free and life felt like an adventure once again.

          9. KibbledKristen

            (I want to be perfectly clear – I’m not conflating my low-end struggles of being an unmarried middle aged chick with the actual struggles of teh gayz. I’ve never had the shit kicked out of me because of who I do and don’t fuck, for example)

    2. KibbledKristen

      Do we know how homosexuality was viewed in pre-Judeo Christian societies? Kind of. Some of them were totally cool with it. (*cough*Sparta*cough*). THen, of course, there’s no information on what prehistoric groups thought of it.

      As always, controlling sex is one of the main tenets of many religions.

      1. IIRC, in the Greek pagan aristocracy it was OK if you “played the man’s part” but not if you “played the woman’s part,” if you get what I’m saying.

        In other words they were so misogynist that acting “manly” was all right but being womanly was one of the worst things you could be.

        There’s a reason (as opponents of Christianity liked to point out) that Christianity appeals to women.

    3. jesse.in.mb

      Why do you think this rule evolved in almost every culture in the world?

      Citation? And did these rules develop independently or you know because widespread influence of Christianity and Islam, and later because British colonial legal structures got adopted around the globe at the peak of their distaste for homosexual behavior?

    4. Heroic Mulatto

      First thoughts are that you are conflating two separate ideas: Tolerance for homosexuality and marriage. Marriage as we know it, that is a secular affair woven into the workings of the nation-state for the purpose of tax breaks and other bennies, is not a historic universal, but in fact a largely a product of Prussian social engineering intended to raise the birth rate. Secondly, what you describe as a “norm” is really only the norm of the Abrahamic faiths, which when introduced in say, classical Rome, was seen as savage and backwards. Indeed, further afield, until the 1930’s open homosexuality was barely worth a raised eyebrow in Shanghai. In short, the one-two punch of 19th century Westernization and 20th century Communism brought intolerance of homosexuality to many East Asian cultures. It’s worth noting that Thailand, never having been colonized by a Western power, is still home to this.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Also, yaoi has been around since the Qing Dynasty, at least:

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Ha, she’s totally lady fapping to that.

          1. I believe there’s a term for that…

          2. IntraveneousWoodChipper

            Oh my god thats hysterical and appalling all at once!

          3. And who isn’t lady fapping to that?

          4. Heroic Mulatto

            Look at that facial expression of pure “squee!”.

          1. According to Wikipedia, the first Sailor Moon comics came out in 1991.

            So if she was, say, 13 years old then, now she would be 39.

          2. Vhyrus

            I think I can fap to this. brb.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            I’m continually impressed by your ability to surprise.

    5. John Titor

      You’re projecting your modern views about homosexuality onto cultures with very different views on it. In Greco-Roman societies homosexual activity was seen primarily through a lens of masculine/feminine roles, not about the act itself. The masculine role, that of penetration, was not really viewed negatively while the feminine act, i.e. being penetrated was more the taboo of the relationship. This dynamic defined homosexuality activity in European pagan society, and you can see it in regards to how these societies legislated in regards to it. For example, superior officers in Roman military organizations were forbidden to penetrate or be penetrated by their men, because the act was an offense to the masculine gods of war, i.e. you were feminizing the epitome of masculinity, a grave insult. Greco-Roman homosexuality was contextualized by the activity and your role in it, rather than as a ‘lifestyle’. So of course there’s no concept of a ‘gay marriage’ in Greek society, women are for procreation and men ‘with no hair upon their chin’ are for more actively masculine sexual activity. In the west at least it’s only with the advent of Christianity that the idea of homosexuality becomes less about a feminine/masculine activity and more about the act itself.

      And for the record, this view hasn’t disappeared either. It’s still pretty common in the Middle East (viewed much more negatively than the Greco-Romans obviously), but you’ll still get, say, people in Saudi Arabia who say they’re totally not gay just because they fucked some guy in the ass.

      I also know that there were various periods in China (pre-Confucian) and Japan (see the Kagema) where homosexuality was fairly tolerated, but I don’t know much about it beyond that.

      TL;DR Homosexuality is historically viewed very differently across cultures and periods, and for a lot of the time it’s not considered the ‘greatest wrongs’.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        I don’t recall the early Confucians deeming homosexual behavior worth mentioning…I don’t actually recall any of the Warring States philosophers mentioning it (mind you this wasn’t an area of depth for me).

        As for Japan, I seem to recall reading that homosexual behavior played an important role in Genji Monogatari, and not in a way we’d recognize as stigmatized, but I haven’t read it and don’t know the details.

        1. John Titor

          I’m half-remembering something I read years ago about Taoists writing about homosexuality activity in their weirdo sex books which were later censored by Confucian scholars as taboos towards sex increased. Like I said, I haven’t researched heavily and I wasn’t trying to infer that Confucius hated the fags.

          1. Did Confucius support gay marriage? If not, he hated all gay people.

            /sarc

          2. jesse.in.mb

            Yeah poorly remembered Chinese history and Chinese philosophy later philosophers read anti-homosexual implications into they way early Confucians structured filial piety. Especially when states were using Confucianism and Legalism as a shillelagh to enforce conformity (not that Legalism is good for anything else).

      2. Heroic Mulatto

        There is a Chinese romantic legend known as the Tale of Pan Zhang & Wang Zhongxian, which is basically about two dudes who fall in love at first sight and then live together until they both die on the same day. The village then buries them on a hill, from which a tree springs forth from their graves with the branches intertwined as if they were still embracing each other in death.

        1. John Titor

          We all, of course, know how to read traditional Chinese.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            That’s what Google Translate is for, silly!

            Pan Zhang less beauty instrument, when people competing for the. Chu Wang Zhongxian, smell the name of the United States, so to seek friends, Zhang Xu. Because of the students, a love at first sight, if the couple, they quilt with the quilt, to pay no better. After the same death, and family sorrow, due to buried in Luofu Mountain. Mound on the Health of a tree, Ke branches and leaves, all embrace. When people are different, the number of sleep tree.

            See?

          2. John Titor
      3. LT_Fish

        Heard a lot about man-boy Thursdays from folks who went to Afghanistan – years and years ago (ie. 2004). Of course it was apparently a non-thing in the media until they tried to charge the SFC last year for beating up the local Police chief.

        Everyone in the service has heard about this stuff….but it’s a non-starter for the SJWs and progs over here…..

    6. Hyperion

      Yes. It’s what some people do for pleasure. And all pleasure is sinful. Especially sexual pleasure. Especially sexual pleasure that ‘I’ don’t agree with. People are and always have been insufferable nannybot shitheads. There’s my thoughts.

  36. KibbledKristen

    Tundra – what’s yer take on Michael Floyd? I know the Vikes have a history of taking on “troubled” players with mixed success, but this guy seems like another Manziel.

    1. KibbledKristen

      (and Pope J., of course!!)

      1. Tundra

        Never forget his Holiness, KK!

        I think Zimmer can handle him. He seems to be comfortable with problem children.

        That said, Michael should maybe think about getting his shit together. I don’t believe the Kombucha story, but if the kid can just plug the fucking bottle for awhile, he could do some good things.

        Big ‘if’, though.

        Still more worried about O-line.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        I was fishing with my father when the story about him failing the alcohol test came out. My father is a retired PO and he just rolled his eyes and said that it was only a matter of time before he gets nailed with his next DUI. According to him, some dudes are just drunks who will never have a rock bottom moment and will flame out.

        To me it sure seems like the guy is doomed. If you move back home and are told you have one last chance, how hard is it to keep sober?

        And I’ll always treasure the thought that I am the second most important Glibertarian in Maple Grove.

        1. Viking1865

          According to him, some dudes are just drunks who will never have a rock bottom moment and will flame out.

          Floyd’s a 27 year old athlete who’s currently on a 1.4 million dollar one year deal, ~1.2 million of which is guaranteed money, which brings his total cash earnings for his career to around 18 million.

          He’s got a way to go before he hits rock bottom.

        2. Tundra

          *does victory lap*

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Not vikings fan but a Cards fan. He was popular with the fan base here and was never much of a problem child which is probably more indicative of other factors like having Larry Fitzgerald around. As for the DUI, I probably would have gotten fucked up after that Miami game too, and I did. A fall from gave is normally nothing more than a couple bad choices.

  37. 404 comments!

    (until this one)

    1. Vhyrus

      404: comments not found?

  38. KibbledKristen

    Minnesota Man? Uffda! You betchya!

    (duck, duck, gray duck)

    1. “controlled substance”

      Which one?

      1. Vhyrus

        Mine says ‘fuck off slaver’

  39. KibbledKristen

    Am I the only person who doesn’t appreciate retro liveries on commercial aircraft? It makes me think I’m flying a 1970-vintage DC-10 that’s headed for explosive decompression.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Yes. What the fuck is wrong with you?

      I miss Pan-Am.

    2. Vhyrus

      Well if the stewardesses still give you the special treatment like they did back in the day I’m on board.

  40. KibbledKristen

    Model Falcon 9 Stage 1 lands in backyard pool.

    1. KibbledKristen

      Sonofabitch.

      Link

      1. Vhyrus

        do they have it for android? I have a boss to impress.

      2. Hyperion

        That’s awesome.

      3. Fatty Bolger

        Wow. That’s some cool shit right there.

  41. KibbledKristen

    Why do I need a prescription for goddamn dog medicine? And it’s just standard heartworm stuff, not like some kinda tranquilizer.

    1. John Titor

      They don’t need to give you a reason you heartworm medicine junkie.

    2. Vhyrus

      This would fall under the well known FYTW standard.

    3. Hyperion

      Sure you want to turn your dogs into drugs addicts, and you hate the children.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      I had the same problem with my old dog’s ear infections. Same shit every time.

      I liked my vet and boarded my dog there several times a year, but I finally told them that I would never buy my meds from them. Instead I took a prescription and started buying online. The vet was pissy about it, but I simply photoshopped the original scrip and used it over and over.

      And I have to say, the fucking buzz from that shit was AWESOME! Unfortunately watching my dog scratch his stinky ears was sort of a buzzkill.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Now, I’m getting Interceptor for myself the dog. Tell me: does one snort it or shoot it up?

        1. Pope Jimbo

          I don’t know about that. But the way the ear medicine worked is you would apply it to your balls and then lick it off for a sustained buzz…

          1. wchipperdove

            Look at Mr. Contortionist over here. I haven’t seen my belly button in years.

  42. Left Hand of Radar

    Two things: 1) Some dude is horking my GENERAL RIPPER avatar. I’m sure he’s a nice guy and all but, really? 2) I love this site. But the reality is there are times when I think that we all come here to get EXTRA pissed off. I’m pretty much pissed off all the time. Maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad idea if you– the powers that be — devote one night’s links to positive, pro-liberty links. How about Friday night? I know after a week at work I’m pretty cranky. I could use some positive-attitudes with my bourbon. Just a suggestion. xoxoxo shuey

    1. KibbledKristen

      Freedom Fridays? (see what I did there?)

      1. Vhyrus

        FRIDAY IS MY DAY YOU DAMN STRUMPET!

        *flips table, storms off to clean guns*

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Ahem.

          1. Vhyrus

            MY PRECIOUS! MINE! GET AWAY!

          2. jesse.in.mb

            *throws Friday into a volcano*

        2. KibbledKristen

          Your euphemisms are showing!

    2. Vhyrus

      Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. If we don’t call out the transgressions they will keep happening. Not that they would stop even if we do but sometimes, rarely, we make progress here and there.

    3. 0x90

      Hey, I staked claim to this avatar fair and square… 7 March it was, according to google’s recollection.

      But I’m nothing if not reasonable.

      So I’m willing to agree to grant you sole rights to use of said image, in exchange for five sturdy orphans, or a case of WD-40 and a serviceable woodchipper.

      1. Gilmore

        There can be only one. You must meet on a stony hilltop in scotland during a lightning storm and battle with broadswords.

        1. 0x90

          We must battle with broad’s words?

          That’s the definition of a no-win — for the sake of us both, I give.

    1. I especially like the “respect my privacy while I’m having a baby” bullshit. She’s living her life on twitter, for fucks sake. You want privacy? Go away.

      Besides, all the man did was answer a question honestly. And he basically gave the same answer she gave nLetterman years ago. But she’s all woke now so I guess she’s gotta keep her street red with the pussy-hat brigade instead of saying “well sure I’d lose to an elite man. It’s a different game.”

      I had her pegged: she’s an asshole. Venus would have never said something this retarded and smarmy.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Looks like we need an overhyped McEnroe/Williams grudge match.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Even better if they made them play with the old early ’80s wood racquets. Lets see who really has skill.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        But Venus doesn’t have the same huge bouncy rack. I can live with some attitude for a Boone & Crockett rack.

  43. KibbledKristen

    I am so tickled that so many people think “Sean Spicier” is the real deal. I always read the replies when he Tweets so I can play Spot the Moron

    1. I’m still giddy about the real one’s last name. Its a conversation starter for me.

  44. Gilmore

    This commentary by hitch popped up in my recommended feed again, so i rewatched and realized what he was saying applied almost exactly to the current situation re: progressives + Trump

    Dwell on this for a moment:
    http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=OTXXmVP7djw&p=n#/54;104

    1. commodious spittoon

      Eric Kane‏
      @EricKaneTV

      80-year-old Elsie Dabrowski used a sickle to fight off a bobcat attacking her, and she’s got the stitches to prove it. Watch @7News at 9p

      Comfortably Smug‏
      @ComfortablySmug

      This was an unpaid volunteer canvasser in an early state and their actions in no way reflect the views of President Bobcat.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Gilmore’d Gilmore! DAMNIT GILMORE

        1. Gilmore

          Look upon my works and despair

      2. KibbledKristen

        I must be on Benadryl or sumpin*, because that metaphor took me forever to put together!

        *I am

    2. one true athena

      best part is when he calls Moore a Brownshirt.

      1. Gilmore

        He had a great talent for derogatory characterization.

        My reason for the post was the comparison of John Birch society accusations re: Eisenhower, suggesting he was a “communist controlled puppet”… with contemporary ones of Trump being a “Russian Stooge”.

        Hitch wondered aloud how anyone could live in a country while maintaining that sort of delusion about their own leaders. Yet here we are.

        1. one true athena

          Yep. Nothing changes. Same play, new actors. I think we’re just seeing the Leftist plays all at once this time rather than dribbled out over decades.

        2. commodious spittoon

          I used to call it the left’s birtherism, but maybe Bitcherism is the better insult.

  45. KibbledKristen
  46. KibbledKristen

    I’ve been waiting and waiting for Battlebots to show up on my DVR schedule, and now I come to find out it hasn’t even been scheduled and there’s a hashtag campaign to bring it back??? Da fuq?

    1. commodious spittoon

      Did you know drone racing is a thing? And you can strap on a VR helmet for it?

      1. KibbledKristen

        Jeezus! They sound like F1 cars! (not sure if a compliment to the drones’ engines, or an indictment of F1)

    2. Gender Traitor

      I’ve been seeing promos on the Science Channel, and their FB feed says it starts July 12 at 10 Eastern/9 Central. I’m wondering when we’re going to get the first episodes from the next generation of Mythbusters.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Science Channel?? That’s weird! I thought ABC had been doing well with it in the summer season. July 12 is too far out for my DVR to pick it up, so that makes sense.

        1. Gender Traitor

          I’d forgotten it was on ABC before, so I couldn’t say whether these will be new episodes.

  47. ArchieBunker

    So s this Sargon Twitter character halfway interesting? Or interesting enough guest to listen to a Joe Rohan podcast? I know he has come up before around here but can’t remember why

    1. ArchieBunker

      Rogan

    2. commodious spittoon

      The youtube guy? He’s got quite a history. He’s good if you feel like shoving your head into the online SJW blender and hearing him take the piss out of feminists and whatnot. Otherwise, a bit repetitive and a bit simplistic.

    3. Gilmore

      his youtube channel is his main show

      its a mix of editorial content and (long ass) livestreams where he talks with other Youtube personalities. sample the editorial content to get a feel for his thing

      his “This week in stupid” episodes review news items of the past week

      this one is from the beginning of the month, when the Evergreen thing popped off
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH1nQ__r_84

      he mostly focuses on “SJW freakouts” and deconstructs their nonsense in a methodical way. he’s become very popular because he himself comes from a modestly-lefty perspective. he attracts a lot of attention from UK and US younger people.

    4. one true athena

      I wouldn’t suggest you should start with the Rogan show. It was after VidCon and you can tell. not sure if he was hungover or just tired, but definitely not his best outing.

  48. Derpetologist

    Today I competed for the coveted title of top Klingon student. My grammar and accent impressed the judges almost as much as my bat’leth skills.

    Klingon takes no prisoners. My class began with 18. There are 10 of us left, and some of them will not pass the DLPT.

    1. jesse.in.mb

      Sooooo do you guys just read Thai menus angrily at each other?

        1. Gilmore

          What i learned there is that its ok to call people spics and camel jockeys, but if you threaten to say “nigger” the white girls will cry “don’t you dare” as though you just threatened to break a kitten’s neck

          best comment =

          Asian Dude3 weeks ago

          He’s racist. Left us asians out.

    2. one true athena

      Qapla’!

  49. Derpetologist

    Laser gun for Apache helicopter successfully tested:
    https://warisboring.com/the-u-s-military-just-attached-a-laser-weapon-to-an-apache-gunship/

    ***
    Raytheon claims it’s the first time a “fully integrated” laser weapon system—specifically, integrated with Raytheon’s Multi-Spectral Targeting System sensor in this case—has been successfully tested from a helicopter “over a wide variety of flight regimes, altitudes and air speeds,” the company announced in a statement.

    The test, which involved U.S. Special Operations Command, took place at White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico. The idea behind the experiment was to see how well the laser performed against several unspecified targets. And in doing so, the company and SOCOM can study how the laser handled the Apache’s constant vibration, along with the downwash caused by the helicopter’s rotor blades in White Sands’ dusty, desert environment.

    A picture released by Raytheon shows the laser’s distinctive, greyish-white pod mounted beneath the Apache’s stubby left wing pylon. The device “achieved all primary and secondary goals” and “performed as expected,” the company stated.
    ***

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Yes, but can these be mounted to a friggin shark?

    2. thrakkorzog

      It’s still at the proof of concept stage. But I would love to see more info about what wavelength they were operating at, and how they solved the dispersion problem inherent to laser weapons.

      And if that weren’t enough, the U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command is planning to install an experimental laser weapon on an AC-130 gunship. “It would be real nice someday, since we have the room on an AC-130, perhaps we should be looking at a microwave energy gun that makes people stop what they’re doing without having to kill them,” AFSOC’s Lt. Gen. Bradley Heithold said.

      Yeah, that guy fails physics forever.

      1. thrakkorzog

        OK I might have been a bit harsh, but a microwave gun that makes people in the ME already fighting in 110 degree heat slightly hotter doesn’t seem like that great of a weapon.

        1. LT_Fish

          They’ve already got a non-lethal microwave weapon for crowd control. Dunno if it’s on youtube but they were testing it over 10 years ago. HMMVW turret mounted (like an Avenger), point it at a crowd and it gives folks a very strong burning sensation/skin crawling/pain/etc – makes them run away pretty quick in the tests.

    3. LT_Fish

      This was the Navy’s test a couple years ago – haven’t read anything new, but I think it’s mostly about looking at power sources (like the railgun) before adding to complements.

      Like the precision accuracy, but they need something that can be full auto too – next should be a drone test at range – that’d give a better idea about defeating ASCM (Anti Ship Cruise Missiles) which are the primary threat out there.

  50. DOOMco

    From a coworker who owns an old FJ55.
    What do you call four tires in a field?

    A 50 series with the rust removed.

  51. commodious spittoon

    Power went out a couple hours ago, so I ate a pint of ice cream. Now the power is back on and I can see I’m a slob.

  52. commodious spittoon

    Loving RLM’s coverage of the new Transformers movie. Three reviews already!

  53. Derpetologist

    Great moments in Remove Kebab

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Zenta

    ***
    The Battle of Zenta or Battle of Senta, fought on 11 September 1697 just south of Zenta (Serbian: Senta; then part of the Ottoman Empire; today in Serbia), on the east side of the Tisa river, was a major engagement in the Great Turkish War (1683–1699) and one of the most decisive defeats in Ottoman history. In a surprise attack, Habsburg Imperial forces routed the Ottoman army which was crossing the river. At the cost of a few hundred losses, the Habsburg forces inflicted thousands of casualties on the Ottomans, dispersed the remainder and captured the Ottoman treasure. As an immediate consequence, the Ottoman Empire lost control over Banat, while in the long run, the Habsburg victory at Zenta was the last decisive step to force the Ottoman Empire into the Treaty of Karlowitz (1699), ending the Ottoman control of large parts of Central Europe.

    On 11 September 1697, the Ottoman army began to ford the river Tisa (Tisza, Theiss) near Zenta (Senta), unaware that the Hungarian Imperial Army was nearby. The Imperial army was able to surprise and attack the Ottoman forces while they were in the process of crossing the river. After an intensive artillery bombardment, many Imperial Dragoon regiments dismounted and proceeded to the moat encircling and engaging the Ottoman camp. Ottoman troops behind the entrenchments retreated in confusion to the bridge, which was now overcrowded. Austrian artillery targeted the Ottoman troops and slaughtered them. The left flank of the Imperial army attacked, penetrating between the Ottoman left flank and the bridge, cutting off their retreat. At the same time, Imperial forces attacked from the front and, after ferocious close-quarter fighting, broke through the trenches surrounding the Ottoman camp. Inside the camp, beyond the camp-wagons, the slaughter was terrible. Imperial soldiers pressed the attack relentlessly. Barely a thousand Ottoman soldiers escaped. More than 10,000 Ottoman troops drowned in the Tisa river. Up to 20,000 Ottoman soldiers were slaughtered on the battlefield.
    ***

    [Nelson laugh]

    1. peachy rex

      Ah, the Turkenkrieg. Good times… well, except for the Turks, I guess. (If you want a good chuckle, check out wikipedia’s list of Ottoman grand viziers – quite the attrition rate between 1683 and 1699.)

  54. Chipwooder

    Due process is just shitlord propaganda.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Still better than the article I saw last week that suggested that courts should lower the standard of proof in criminal rape cases.

    2. Holger-da-Dane

      Lots of to-be-sure’isms in that article. Had to double check it wasn’t Rico.

      How are we at a place where the legitimacy of due process is even a conversation anywhere in society?

      1. wdalasio

        How are we at a place where the legitimacy of due process is even a conversation anywhere in society?

        That’s an exceedingly good question. And a question I personally find incredibly disturbing. Things like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and due process (the list can easily go on) used to be the bedrock, the common ground, for public discourse. They were the boundaries on how far any faction could push things. Yes, they got trampled on in times of emergency. Yes, they were often enforced hypocritically. But even those breaching the principles recognized their value and at least paid lip service to them.

        I don’t think I’ve ever run across a period in American history where there was significant element of society, and and educated one at that, that ever thought it was a legitimate idea to throw those principles out the window. What the hell is it that they think is going to happen when those principles are thrown out? Do they think their opponents will still somehow be bound by them?

        You get rid of those principles and you’re looking at a pretty vicious civil war.

  55. straffinrun

    Just don’t read this. I’m 100% serious.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I hate you.

      1. straffinrun

        If I had sad 99%, your hate would be justified.

    2. thrakkorzog

      If he wore them while visiting a ME country outside of Israel, I might give him some grudging respect.

    3. Holger-da-Dane

      I wonder if he has a pair of “Arbeit Macht Frei” socks stashed away somewhere?

      Also seeing WaPo’s democracy slogan on top of that article feels kind of ironic.