Friday Morning Links

Y’all aren’t going to receive a sports update from me as I don’t follow every sport known in existence like sloopy does, so provide your own.

The only person capable of getting the mainstream media to talk about something other than Trump.

 

In a sad attempt at winning back the working class, the Democrat Party released their new slogan which many find reminiscent of Papa John’s slogan.  At least they didn’t go with their original slogan.  Well, not openly at least.

 

Chester Bennington, lead singer of Linkin Park, committed suicide by hanging himself on the same day as Chris Cornell’s birthday, who also hung himself last May.  The two are reported to have been good friends.  The selfish, drug addicted piece of shit, left behind six children and a wife.

 

In “this surprises no one” news, a new Pew Research Poll shows that 47% of liberals say that someone being a Trump supporter would put a strain on their friendship versus 13% of conservatives who claim the same about having a friend who is a Hillary supporter.

 

The body camera footage which caught Baltimore cops planting evidence prompts a review of 100 cases which involved the officers who were caught.

 

Prefer my version of the links?  Please let sloop know in the comments. Oh, and a link to a song.

Comments

627 responses to “Friday Morning Links”

  1. 47% of liberals say that someone being a Trump supporter would put a strain on their friendship

    Which is why I don’t talk politics with my neighbors and friends.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Trump supporter in hiding? Or is being libertarian worse? I mean libertarians can be worse then Nazis, or so I’ve heard

      1. I did have a semi-drunken conversation at a neighborhood party when a woman said – while discussing politcs – “And what are libertarians? They seem worse than Republicans.”

        And I had to pipe up; “I’m pretty much a libertarian.”

        And it quickly went downhill after that.

        1. Chipwooder

          By downhill, you mean you plowed her, right?

          1. Bobarian LMD

            That is, pretty much, the bottom of the hill.

        2. I did have a semi-drunken conversation

          Your problem is that you aren’t drinking enough.

        3. WTF

          Damn libertarians, wanting to seize control of government and let people live their lives in peace.
          Monsters.

          1. Hammercorps

            She probably knows about the orphans. Someone must have let it slip.

          2. Juvenile Bluster

            Guys… I think it was my fault. One of mine managed to escape. I don’t know how it happened.

            Bought stronger shackles this time, I promise it won’t happen again.

          3. R C Dean

            Can’t run off if they don’t have feet, I always say.

        4. Scruffy Nerfherder

          You’ve got to lead them on for a while first. Get them really frothing at the mouth and then show your official libertarian creds.

          1. ChipsnSalsa

            show your official libertarian creds.

            That may get you arrested in most states.

          2. Oh come now…OMWC still walks free.

          3. Old Man With Candy

            Not really. SP has me in a shock collar and electronic ankle bracelet.

          4. Pomp

            But enough about your fetish.

    2. straffinrun

      How about with foreigners and enemies?

  2. Even in the PDRC, they sometimes do something right.

    BAMN Leader arrested for Assault, Inciting a Riot

    1. Chipwooder

      Good.

    2. straffinrun

      Felarca, a member of the group By Any Means Necessary

      Do we get to fight against them by any means necessary?

    3. Agent Cooper

      Middle school teacher????

  3. I used to be a sexual predator. I know how men can be made to change

    So much bad social awkwardness here…

    A strange ritual ensued in which I’d dance closer and closer yet facing the other way, looking at my mates for a sign that she was game. Tentatively pressing my bum against hers, I’d hope she didn’t recoil. With the caress of my stray hand, often, she would. Nowt wrong with a bit of a grope, I thought.

    Failing to find a girlfriend or lose my virginity at university left me bitter and further lacking in confidence. I remember telling one bar girl when she didn’t serve me: “I’d like to see your head on a stick.” To me, boozed up, it was just a funny quote from American Psycho. When she challenged me, I fled to the toilet like the coward I was, only to be thrown out by the bouncers.

    No one on a night out should expect to be sexually assaulted or go home because of the kind of lewd behaviour I repeated year on year. So, in addition to the initiatives I mentioned above, what else is needed to stop sexual predators?

    Looking back on my early adult life as a single man, I know only men can really bring about change by how they feel about themselves. Through falling in love recently and enduring hard times together with a woman who I respected, I eventually moved from objectifying women – as a lifetime of porn taught me – to respecting them and realising the value they have as human beings: the shared hopes and dreams.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Yeah because that lame little anecdote represents men.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        He’s attempting to alleviate his rightly deserved shame by lumping all men in with him. SOCIETY MADE HIM DO IT.

        1. butt-head

          This. Progs do this ALL THE TIME. “I’m an asshole because of society / the media / **abstract, third-party factors**, let me project my racism/misogyny/*phobia onto everyone else!”

    2. Drake

      A sexual predator who couldn’t get laid, ever, in college?

      What he’s describing is more like a creepy loser.

      1. WTF

        ^This. Creepy loser consoles himself by imagining that all men are creepy losers like him.

      2. Yeah I was shy as hell when I was in high school and college but still managed to get a lot of female attention. Of course I had that whole geeky Anthony Micheal Hall look going for me.

        1. Drake

          I would have thought it was the leather straps and mysterious mask.

          1. That was before the accident, you shit lord!

      3. Zunalter

        You would think that if all the outcry about campus rape culture was true…

    3. Akira

      I eventually moved from objectifying women – as a lifetime of porn taught me

      I’ve never seen any hard evidence that porn actually causes men to treat women differently in real life. It’s the same old shit as the “violent video games make people violent” canard.

      1. Akira

        PS: Porn is illegal in the Middle East; maybe they should do a fact-finding mission to see how women are treated in those countries.

      2. B.P.

        Yeah, I’ve come away with a different set of lessons than the one he learned.

    4. DesigNate

      I’ve watched porn since I was 12 and never once have thought it ok, or tried to, grope some random girl in a bar or club.

      Fuck this guy.

  4. The Elite Elite

    Prefer my version of the links?

    Yes. No useless sports crap to find the end of to get to the links I won’t be reading.

      1. *or she or other

        1. The Elite Elite

          You assumed my gender? SHITLORD BULLY!

          1. We’ll need a blood sample for genetic testing.

            Perferably carotid blood, just to be a pain in the neck.

          2. leonadasiv

            Hihn as an sjw? Not much different then hihn as he is.

    1. And none of the tedious Ohio State rules/Michigan sucks shit either.

      1. Negroni Please

        But at least Sloopy is half right. Michigan DOES suck. Of course so does tOSU

        1. robc

          The whole B1G sucks. Except Rutgers, because they don’t even count.

          1. Negroni Please

            I typically forget Rutgers even exists. At least Northwestern is actually a good school and Michigan used to be a good school before they became an extension campus for Berkeley. The rest of the B1G though? Ugh why do those schools even exist? Is it because retail managers need college degrees now and they have to get them somewhere?

          2. You really do want a shortage of engineers, CS types and doctors, eh?

          3. Negroni Please

            I want a shortage of engineers, CS types and doctors from THOSE schools.

            It’s like y’all don’t understand how the school spirit game works. I went to UT so every school ranked beneath UT is a garbage school for garbage people and every school ranked above UT is coasting by on an undeserved reputation. and totally not worth the tuition. See how this works?

          4. FreeSociety

            *wipes away single tear*

            *burns diploma*

          5. Stillhunter

            Untrue. While both Madison and Minneapolis are progressive hell holes, both are very good schools for certain things. It actually takes some good grades to get into Madison. At least it used to. If you’re a white cis hetero shitlord.

        2. Mad Scientist

          I spent my childhood in Ohio, and I assure you it sucks. I can’t speak for Michigan since I’ve never been there.

      2. egould310

        Fuck Michigan!

        1. No! Have you heard what kinds of social diseases Michigan has? There’s not enough protection in the world.

        2. FreeSociety

          Yes sir.

        3. RegicidalManiac

          I’d do some of my sister’s classmates, that’s for sure.

    2. Though the lack of alt-text does dull the shine on that a tad.

    3. JD

      Exactly. But still no bullet points. Too much like a period?

    4. Keep it up. All you’ll get is sports.

      1. Chipwooder

        Shit, dad saw us!

      2. Morning Sports Links…

      3. The Elite Elite

        Well, then I can know to just skip directly to the comments.

        1. Pomp

          Isn’t that what you do on H&R?

      4. Mad Scientist

        Politics is basically sports anyway. “Last night Team Blue said such-and-such about Team Red’s quarterback. This morning Team Red retaliated by saying so-and-so about Team Blue’s goalie.”

    5. Pomp

      Learn to scroll and ignore.

      1. JD

        Euphemism?

    6. bacon-magic

      Agreed.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      The navy is a social construct

    2. Chipwooder

      Well, there was Chris Beck, who was a SEAL who turned into Kristie Beck. Only after he left the service, though.

    3. Mustang

      There are a few ways in which she gets through the process:

      1.) They lower the standards.

      2.) She’s actually Wonder Woman.

      3.) Upper echelons lean on the instructors to carry her through it.

      I’ll let you decide which of these is most likely.

      1. straffinrun

        4) a dude that identifies as a women.

        Checks a box without needing a box.

      2. Or, as per the article, he’s actually a man and may not have had his testosterone generators lopped off.

        1. Mustang

          There are several different individuals in that article.

          1. *looks at link, but does not follow*

            Ah, it’s different from the one I read earlier. I must have conflated the two.

            I’ll take your word for it.

          2. Mustang

            Yeah, it’s tough. They worded it in a way that says there’s multiple candidates and two women were in the pipeline, but one dropped out.

            Oh, and they can’t confirm someone identified as a tranny, but someone identified as a tranny.

    4. Atanarjuat

      Here’s hoping Trump ends this nonsense, preferably with a shockingly sexist tweet about female soldiers bleeding out of their whatevers.

    5. FreeSociety

      Let me guess, the women will a special instructor because the regular one will be super mean. They won’t have to qualify by doing the same number of push-ups or run as many miles as anyone else, they won’t have to stay underwater as long as everyone else and they’ll be graded on a curve that assures at least one person with a vagina will qualify. Then we can dance around and proclaim women as good as men in combat roles. Then we can move on to this issue of equal pay, we’ll pay the women more than the men and call it equality. I’d make such a great feminist.

      1. FreeSociety

        I guess I should read the article. I didn’t realize this is one of those women that actually have a dick, I think they’re called ‘men’.

      2. F. Stupidity Jr.

        Then we can dance around and proclaim women as good as men in combat roles.

        1) Almost perfect, FS. You forgot the obligatory clause: “…as good as men, if not better, in combat roles.” See, once female standards are judged to be the same as those for the males, then you have to consider that their intuition, temperament, and wisdom is superior, therefore women are better at everything, pace Lily Allen.
        2) Men should push the “capability gap” just as hard as feminists push the wage gap. Something like “Women only bench press 59 pounds for every 100 that a man benches!”

        1. FreeSociety

          Oh shit you’re right. I didn’t mean to imply that women weren’t better than men in all things thought to be traditionally masculine. I hope Lena Dunham’s soggy vagina will forgive me.

          1. WTF

            I hope Lena Dunham’s soggy vagina…

            Welp, there goes my appetite.

          2. Bobarian LMD

            To be fair, the Army did not change the standards for the women that made it through Ranger school.

            They just let them continue to ‘recycle’ until they finally made it.

            A male normally is only allowed to recycle once in each phase of Ranger School.

          3. FreeSociety

            You’re probably onto something there. There is this article, to be taken with a grain of salt, it’s full of “anonymous sources” with some non-anonymous sources mixed in. However I imagine it’s career threatening for an officer or NCO to go talking to the press in a way that contravenes the leadership’s public statements. So my final ruling is ‘meh’.

          4. Fatty Bolger

            It will if you kiss it to make up.

      3. B.P.

        After equal pay comes equal pay reparations.

  5. Death metal fans hardest hit.

    (Seriously, dying at 50 of kidney failure is much too young.)

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Who?

      1. Andrea Jürgens.

        I saw the name in Wikipedia’s obituary list, looked up one of her hits on Youtube, and knew the crazies here would find it trippy. Even if it’s not quite death metal like most of you prefer.

        (Well, except Eddie who prefers baroque music, but this isn’t baroque either.)

        1. Love that shirt in the first pic. 🙂

        2. Yusef drives a Kia

          Ted, are you old? only old people read Obituaries, looking for friends, creepy and true
          /53

          1. No; I blog about classic movies, so I look to see if anybody noteworthy in that regard died that I’d want to blog about. (eg. Martin Landau.)

            On another forum I’m called the Cryptkeeper for linking to so many obits.

          2. Agent Cooper

            You should do a classic movie column for Glibs!

        3. Chipwooder

          What about baroque metal?

  6. straffinrun

    According to the Post, the platform will highlight Democrats’ policy goals, including “tax increases on the rich, affordable college, infrastructure spending, higher wages, job training, paid family leave.”

    Where’s my pony?

    1. Suthenboy

      A repackaged same ol’ shit from the same ol’ faces? We already know who you pinko motherfuckers are. Saying the same thing using different words isnt going to win anyone over. Prog harder you idiots.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjd42q776bo

      1. straffinrun

        Bleeeck. Why would you link that? Ear cleaner.

    2. WTF

      I could state it much more succinctly: “Higher taxes; moar free shit.”

    3. JD

      Nothing about keeping us safe from Russia Russia Russia?

      1. Look, a Donkey in the office is a magical totem that makes Russia an issue for the 80’s.

    4. Atanarjuat

      Do normal people still really buy their crap about infrastructure spending? Obama spent like a trillion dollars on it, and we’re still told it’s crumbling. At some point, people are going to expect results.

      1. WTF

        Oddly enough, it looks like the new Tappan Zee bridge will come in mostly on time and mostly on budget. I have no idea how that happened.

        1. Brasidas

          Someone took the original estimate and multiplied it by three?

        2. I’ll believe it after they’ve done it.

          I’ve worked for the state a while – they say a lot of things are going to happen, and it often turns out different.

        3. BakedPenguin

          Tappan Zee bridge

          Noice

          1. egould310

            Tappin zat azz

      2. Akira

        I haven’t looked into this, but Tom Woods said on his podcast that the “crumbling infrastructure” canard is bullshit because most of the bridges they’re talking about are old single-lane bridges that may not actually get any vehicle traffic at all, but it’s technically a bridge and it’s technically in bad shape, so it probably gets counted in some national survey of crumbling bridges. They make it sound like a major highway overpass is just teetering on one crumbling pillar and will fall down any second if we don’t spend more money on it.

        1. whiz

          You mean like this one? I-35

      3. B.P.

        And why is it always “crumbling”? Can’t they come up with a new verb once in a while?

  7. Klamath Basin outdoor news briefs

    Are you ready to search for Bigfoot?
    Collier State Park will host a Bigfoot event starting at 10 a.m. Saturday, according to a news release. Whether you believe in the legend of Bigfoot or not you can learn what to be on the watch for when in the wilderness. Collier Memorial State Park and the surrounding area have been identified as areas where a sighting might occur. Participants will be guided by a seasoned tracker who is CPR/1 st Aid certified so Bigfoot enthusiasts can feel safe on their journey into Bigfoot country.

    Dutch oven cooking demonstration
    A Dutch oven cooking demonstration will be offered at 5 p.m. Saturday, behind site A-1, at the Collier Memorial State Park campground. Participants will learn how to choose and care for a Dutch oven and become familiar with the basic tools and how to prepare a dish. Saturday’s demonstration will feature a taco soup.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      COME FOR THE RAPE, STAY FOR THE TACO SOUP!

      1. STEVE SMITH WILL DUTCH OVEN YOU AFTER RAPE.

      2. WTF

        STEVE SMITH TURN TUNA TACO INTO SOUP!

    2. Pomp

      taco soup

      This variation on car-hotboxing is way too extreme for my tastes. Count me out.

    3. FreeSociety

      I dutch oven my wife after we make love because that’s just what they do in her culture.

      1. Pomp

        Inuits freaky like that.

  8. Pope Jimbo

    This is Maple Lake, not Maple Grove where Tundra and I live. Although I’d love to vote against <a href="http://blogs.mprnews.org/capitol-view/2017/07/mn-lawmakers-filing-lawsuit-over-denied-pay-raise/"this derpster.

    Legislators are suing the speaker of Minnesoda’s House because he didn’t take action to implement a pay raise for themselves (from $31K to $45K).

    O’Neill said she wants the raise.

    “As a single woman, and no other income right now because I sold my businesses, it’s really important for myself and others like myself that we have at least a cost of living adjustment for the last 20 years,” O’Neill said.

    Ummm, you are supposed to be a citizen legislator. If being one is so tough, keep you day job and forget about running.

    1. straffinrun

      Does the edit fairy carry a Banjo?

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      Two Minnesota state representatives, one Republican and one Democrat

      who said bipartisanship is dead? look at these from across the aisle, coming together to get something accomplished.

      for themselves.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Judge for yourselves:

        Marion O’Neill
        Rena Moran

    3. Pope Jimbo

      Don’t need no stinking faeries around here.

      Fixed link

    4. Brett L

      So… If Bill Gates sold his business and had no income, would that be a problem? Presumably she had some equity in that business that got turned into cash. The other solution would be that she push for aggressively short legislative sessions.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        I think that is a big assumption on the success of her business. Liquidating the office furniture and terminating the lease may not have led her to a large pile of cash.

        shooting from the hip there, with no looking into it.

        1. westernsloper

          <a rel="no follow" href= “Her campaign website

          Marion has worked for several non-profit organizations including Minnesota Adult and Teen Challenge where she was a Director. She has worked at a CPA firm doing business accounting and tax preparation, and for five years she owned her own small business in the construction trades.

          I doubt she even had office furniture, or an office. My guess is, her business consisted of lining up trades for remodeling or some other project, and then tacked on X% to the bill for her time while not actually doing anything. I have worked for people like that.

          1. westernsloper

            oops……yet it works.

          2. Zunalter

            Thanks for the reminder to no follow those links, def don’t want to provide backlinks to these assholes.

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            “A” rating from Minnesota Grocers Association

            She should run for President!

          4. peachy rex

            Or she was a “woman- or minority-owned business” for hire.

    5. thom

      I don’t believe there’s any legal requirement that she finish her term. She’s free to quit and find higher paying employment elsewhere. As a former legislator she could probably easily score pretty good money doing policy work somewhere.

    6. Scruffy Nerfherder

      waaaahhhhhh……..

    7. Mad Scientist

      They’re both just signaling that they’re ready to sell their votes to the highest bidder.

  9. Pomp

    Crusty linked to this at another place. Pretty good read and atypically lucid for something published at Slate.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Nothing can kill comedy. It has been around for a while. Not 50 years of communist dictatorship, certainly not online trolling. Dunno why it needs to be mentioned.

      1. Because Trump has supernatural powers of destruction.

        1. The Last American Hero

          He has made people like Colbert even less funny.

      2. Bobarian LMD

        They can’t kill comedy, but they’re working hard at killing Comedy Central. The level of derp at that place seems to be growing at an exponential level. Every new show is worse.

        When they finally pull the plug on South Park, it will be complete.

  10. PieInTheSKy

    The blocking of Winnie the Pooh might seem like a bizarre move by the Chinese authorities but it is part of a struggle to restrict clever bloggers from getting around their country’s censorship.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855

  11. I think you should having linked to a different curb job.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      not clicking.

      1. Should be safe for work.

    2. straffinrun

      Was expecting American History X.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        same here. I get a little sick thinking about that. ugh

      2. I’m not disturbing like HM. (Well, I suppose my links disturb in a different way.)

        1. Bobarian LMD

          You mean ‘as disturbed as’, not ‘disturbing like’…

      3. Agent Cooper

        My first thought was Larry David.

  12. straffinrun

    The selfish, drug addicted piece of shit, left behind six children and a wife.

    The stoics tried to encourage you by saying that you could always “turn your wrist over” it got too bad. Can give you courage or cowardice to think of it like that.

    1. JD

      Apparently, Chester Bennington was the secret bastard son of John Podesta. The likeness is uncanny.

      https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2009834

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        I refuse to click on that, but I’m suspecting that /v/pizzagate is probably the worst place on the internet. I mean, even the conspiracy theory subreddit on Reddit wouldn’t have them (probably because they’re not blaming Pizzagate on (((them))), but that’s another story)

        1. JD

          I’m just reporting the theory. Here’s a side-by-side photo: https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500615798696.jpg

  13. Of course

    A rape-able sex robot makes the world more dangerous for women, not less

    The idea that allowing men to “rape” robots could reduce rates of sexual violence is fundamentally flawed. Sex robot settings that eroticise a woman’s lack of consent, coupled with male aggression, risk normalising rape. It sends a message to the user that it is sexually fulfilling to violate a woman’s “No”.

    It’s important to remember that rape is not a product of sexual desire. Rape is about power and domination – about violating a woman’s body and her sense of self. Raping a robot is of course preferable to raping a woman, but the fact is we need to challenge the attitudes and sense of entitlement that cause violent men to rape in the first place.

    There is little evidence to back the claim that giving men sexual “outlets” reduces violence. The research that exists is focused on whether a legalised sex industry can reduce sexual assault.

    1. The Elite Elite

      This sounds an awful lot like the arguments that were made about how violent video games will turn young boys into killers. Yet violent crime has been falling for a good long while now.

    2. EvilSheldon

      Send a few of these over to Steve Smith’s cave, and maybe it will be safe to walk in the woods again…

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Extreme product testing. But it’s also pretty hard on the delivery guy.

        WHAT CAN STEVE DO TO BROWN?

    3. straffinrun

      Sex robot settings that eroticise a woman’s lack of consent

      Pretty sure that’s consent.

    4. PieInTheSKy

      I wish for the day when the perpetually outraged can say ok that’s it nothing left to be outraged about, glad I am done.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Well, I’m here to tell you now, each and every mother’s son,
        That you better learn it fast, you better learn it young,
        ‘Cause someday never comes.

        1. Stillhunter

          Well done.

    5. JD

      The first successful sexbot for women will come with a “Fifty Shades of Grey” setting.

      1. Brett L

        “I call him Fister Roboto. And the good part is, he’s learning!”

        1. Domo arigato, Fister Roboto.

          1. WTF

            Dildo Harigata, Fister Roboto.

    6. WTF

      “Women’s sex toys, good; men’s sex toys, bad!”

      1. straffinrun

        My pocket pussy has never said no. Maybe I should hook it up to Alexa.

    7. The Last American Hero

      So I guess board games like Risk should be banned, lest we breed a new generation of would be Hitlers…

    8. Juvenile Bluster

      ENB (I don’t care what you guys say I love her still) put it well

      https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/888362784479752192

      You can’t rape a robot you grievance-mongering whackos

      1. WTF

        STEVE SMITH SAY “CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!”

        1. DOOMco

          I’m surprised

        2. DesigNate

          That explains so much…

      2. John Titor

        I think she’s fine on the sex trade issues, but extremely shallow and prone to stupid ‘social justicing’ for no good reason.

        Like that idiotic article she posted about how she had white privilege because she was treated nicely by police at the Republican Convention after being in a restricted area. Ah, no, you moron, they treated you nice because you’re an attractive woman, if my Bosnian terrorist looking white ass was there you’d better believe the response would be worse.

      3. MikeS

        Great reply:

        De Goede Dokter‏ @voutilad 5h5 hours ago
        Replying to @ENBrown

        If a robot can be raped it makes it more dangerous for _everyone_ because the robots will add this to their list of reasons to subjugate us.

    9. one true athena

      wait. If rape is about power and domination, then why wouldn’t a robot serve that need? A robot will do nothing but what you tell it to do, so that’s nothing but power and domination. So … why wouldn’t that work? If it doesn’t, she certainly doesn’t say why. Because in the next line she says, no, actually, rape is about ‘attitude’ and a ‘sendse of entitlement”. That’s not the same thing as power and domination. She certainly doesn’t hook them together in anyway — ‘ a sense of entitlement FOR taking power” or something like that. Nor explain why a robot wouldn’t actually help with that, just the canard that outlets for violence don’t reduce violence. And even if it were true that sexual outlets don’t reduce sexual violence, then… they’re not reducing them. But if they’re not *increasing* the incidents of sexual violence, then the robot makes no difference at all.

      UGH I HATE THIS “FEMINIST” claptrap, where they just barf out the same crap in a random order, and get high-fives, and it MAKES NO SENSE.

  14. Pomp

    So Valerian is out in theatres. If it can bring even 80% of the awesome that The Fifth Element can, then I’ll be a happy camper.

  15. Pope Jimbo

    In other Minnesoda news, the courts spanked Gov. Mumbles and his plan to defund the legislature.

    No surprise really. It was pretty silly to think that you could line item veto the budget of one of the branches of govt. Maybe next budget he’ll line out the budget for the judiciary.

    1. Pomp

      Lobbying for legislative seats being essentially voluntary + travel costs would be a nice idea, but that’s not what this is about is it? 🙂

  16. Report: Former Zetas cartel leader used to eat victims

    In an interview with Mexican publication El Blog del Narco, a reporter said a now-deceased Zetas cartel leader used to eat the flesh of victims.

    The journalist told the publication he had seen former Zetas leader Heriberto Lazcano, or “El Lazca,” eat human flesh, according to El Blog del Narco. He said after the cartel leader would have someone killed, the victim would be cleaned and shaved, according to the publication.

    Lazcano would have the flesh prepared in a tamale dish, the journalist said in the report, and would consume skin from a victim’s buttocks, the journalist said in the report.

    A true environmental hero.

    1. Hammercorps

      Rodrigo Duterte would like to pin a medal on this man.

    2. Jefe Hayek

      “… he claimed the buttocks was the most toothsome dish. I mean, this Heriberto Lazcano…what a jerk!”

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        but where they thicc cuts?

      2. straffinrun

        *Norm approves

    1. Was it a new sex toy, or previously used?

    2. PBRstreetgang

      “as PROBE launched”.
      Now that is a good headline writer.

    3. Agent Cooper

      Why post a video online? You live in the UK – a police state.

  17. Drake

    Any want a WWII .45? If Republicans in Congress don’t fuck it up, the CMP will have a bunch of them to sell.

    1. I’d love one.

      I don’t, however, want to give the local cops access to my social media accounts, dig up four people willing to attest to the good content of my character, or wait upto a year with many nonrefundable fees upon the whim of the local anti-gun police force.

      1. Drake

        I was wondering if I would have to go through all the local hoops for one. Or if being an honorably discharged combat veteran with zero criminal record might suffice in this particular case.

        1. Hammercorps

          That’d probably make it worse because “PTSD!”

        2. straffinrun

          Actually, you sound more dangerous.

        3. For me to own a handgun and comply with the laws in New York, I would have to jump through all of the hoops above and then some.

          This is a “May issue” state that is effectively “No Issue” for most residents. I’ve contemplated buying a piece of property across the Vermont border to use as my official firearms residence. But Not actually living there might constitute fraud.

          1. Drake

            I’ve contemplated buying property in New Hampshire and never leaving.

          2. If I were going to do a one-way relocation, I’d aim for someplace like Wyoming. I was looking at Vermont as the closest available loophole.

          3. Drake

            Maybe eventually. Right now my family and work are on the East Coast.

          4. Pomp

            If you’re really serious, run the scenario of purchasing a VT investment property, taking a 1 month vacation from your job, establishing legal domicile in VT in the formal sense, storing and securing your arms, and re-establish legal domicile in NY after you come back from vacation. I know a combo FFL+attorney to refer you to if you are really serious.

          5. I need more seed capital first.

            I’ll come back to the thought after I’ve done something about my current debt. (Good news is I’m still on track to be debt-free in seven years. Debt-Free, in this day and age.)

          6. Pomp

            As long as you follow the letter of the laws strictly and don’t deprive NYS of the protection racket tax revenue, you should be fine.

          7. Timeloose

            Pennsylvania has great gun laws as well. so if your closer to PA then VT that is also an option.

          8. Caput Lupinum

            Eh, Pennsylvania’s gun laws are ok. We’re about middle of the pack nation wide. Still pretty good, but nothing outstanding. Like most things except our asinine alcohol laws, PA only looks great compared to our neighbors. Not that I’m complaining, PA beats the ever loving hell out of being stuck in New York, Jersey, or Maryland, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t work to be done.

            ‘Course, we’ll have to wait for a half decent governor first.

          9. I work in Albany. I’m 1 hour from Vermont.

            I have no idea how many hours it is from Pennsylvania, I’d have to pass New Jersey or the Catskills first.

          10. Timeloose

            I agree, but we’re the Wild West compared to the rest of the Northeast. CC permits are easy as pie to get, open carry is legal, and there is little to no restrictions on type or features of guns.

          11. Pomp

            we’re the Wild West compared to the rest of the Northeast.

            ::coughs and politely points to northern New England::

          12. Caput Lupinum

            UCS, from Albany to Pennsylvania is about 6 to 7 hours normally. Off course, that will land you in the hinterlands of Pennsyltucky, you’ll have to drive a bit further to get any where with people.

            Off course, knowing you’re disdain of almost all things, the endless mountains and their relative lack of population maybe right up your alley.

          13. Timeloose

            Fair point, I should exclude NH from my statement. I’m surrounded by folks from NJ and NY, and CT so I have a blind spot for the better side of Verhampshure.

          14. Caput Lupinum

            I’m surrounded by folks from NJ and NY, and CT

            Good bless Pennsyltucky for still being numerous enough to counterbalance the transplants. May we never go the way of Colorado.

          15. Pomp

            NH is the Johnny-come-lately. Vermont has had the original Vermont carry for a long time. Maine is a shall-issue CCW jurisdiction. Northern New England is overall pretty solid.

          16. Timeloose

            Thanks for the info Pomp, did not realize Vermont laws were so reasonable.

          17. Los Doyers

            Uh, are you thinking of the process of getting a CCW? I’d imagine just buying that handgun would be pretty simple. Hell, even here in California it’s just a few signatures, a DOJ background check, and the 10 day waiting period.

          18. It is illegal to purchase or own a handgun in New York without a permit.

            There is only one kind of permit. You have to go through the whole rigamarole regardless of the scope of the permit requested. And as it’s nigh impossible to get your permit scope expanded, there’s never a point to ask for less than full CCW.

          19. DOOMco

            NY is impossible.

          20. MikeS

            Here in North Dakota you have to wait about 5-15 mins for the NICS check to clear. That’s it.

          21. I was thinking of writing an article on the unconstitutional (and downright immoral) requirements for legally purchasing a handgun in New York.

            I still might.

          22. Pomp

            The NICS verification process has never taken more than a couple minutes for me here in NH. Predictably the new VT-style “constitutional carry” here has not resulted in an immediate uptick in murders.

          23. WTF

            UCS, New Jersey is just as bad if not worse.

          24. Caput Lupinum

            First PICS check took about an hour for me; PA had its own background system run by our state police. Every time after that it had been about half an hour. Most people can get it done in around 10 minutes, but I have an incredibly common name so background checks of any kind take longer, as they have to verify they have the correct Mr. Smith.

          25. Count Potato

            “It is illegal to purchase or own a handgun in New York without a permit.

            There is only one kind of permit. You have to go through the whole rigamarole regardless of the scope of the permit requested. And as it’s nigh impossible to get your permit scope expanded, there’s never a point to ask for less than full CCW.”

            That’s nuts.

          26. Drake

            I’m hoping that there is a Northeast (NJ, NY, or CT) gun case that makes it to the Supreme Court and gets a massive slapdown from them. (As long as I’m not the test case)

          27. WTF

            I’m hoping that there is a Northeast (NJ, NY, or CT) gun case that makes it to the Supreme Court and gets a massive slapdown from them.

            The 3rd circuit fairly recently ruled in Drake that New Jersey prohibiting citizens from bearing arms does not burden the right to bear arms. SCOTUS refused to take it up and let the decision stand.

          28. Drake

            Yea – I’m kind of confused why the Supremes seem to have no problem knocking down DC and IL on 2A cases but ignore NY and NJ. Maybe as the court changes this year and next they’ll take one.

    2. Pomp

      OMG a million times yes, I want one badly. Hopefully the Senate doesn’t sabotage this. *chortle*

      1. RegicidalManiac

        I believe that the last time this went through, McCain sabotaged it.

        So we might stand a chance this time.

        1. WTF

          Does it make me a bad person that when I heard McCain had been diagnosed with a brain tumor, my first thought was “well, that explains a lot”?

          1. RegicidalManiac

            If it does, I am too. Thought the same thing.

    3. hell yeah!

      I’ve bought some still-sealed WW2 era oil capacitors in the same type of kraft/wax paper. Also vacuum tubes wrapped in some softpack material (that probably causes cancer). It’s a great feeling to unpack a bit of history.

      1. Pomp

        Cosmoline ftw

      2. Hammercorps

        We were digging around our granddad’s basement after he died, and found a WWII field medic’s first aid kit. Remarkably complete, even contained a still-full hydrogen peroxide bottle.

    4. Haybob

      I’m in the market for an M1 garand. They are hard to find at a reasonable price

      1. Haybob

        Reply derp this was meant to be on another comment.

      2. Lachowsky

        Go through the CMP. it’s the best deal you can get.

          1. Lachowsky

            I joined a cmp affiliated club for almost nothing a fee years back when I ordered a Garand. There is a shooting range that has some affiliation to the cmp a few towns over. I gave them 20 bucks and shot there a few times and that was good enoigh. You can look up lists of cmp affiliated orgs and there are a lot of them that charge very little to become a member.

          2. DOOMco

            theres a good idea.

    5. mexican sharpshooter

      Any want a WWII .45?

      Does STEVE SMITH rape bears shitting in the woods? Hell yeah!

      Will I expect it to work at all? Hell no.

      1. Pomp

        Is that a statement regarding WWII-era 1911s and/or the original manufacturer, or presumption based on age? Assuming that all the parts are slathered liberally with cosmoline and there is no remarkable level of corrosion, those guns should fire just fine.

        1. Pomp

          Oh I forgot to say this: I own a Yugo Mauser M48 that was packed away in cosmoline for something like 4 decades, worked flawlessly after cleaning away all the cosmoline. Same with a 1976 Yugo SKS, which came with a sweet maintenance log book with both Latin and Cyrillic handwriting, basically hadn’t been fired since the 1976 100m group log. Both guns were so well slathered that they didn’t have a micrometer of corrosion on them anywhere after they were cleaned up.

  18. Michigan Corrections Department to aid transgender inmates

    The revised policy was put into place June 26. Before the change, inmates were only allowed to receive treatment if such care was already scheduled before the person was incarcerated. Now, inmates can receive hormone therapy and gender-affirming surgery while still in prison.

    “Every prisoner is important, this is something that we wanted to do, that we needed to do,” said Chris Gautz, a spokesman for the department.

    If an inmate identifies as being gender dysphoric, the department’s new Gender Dysphoria Collaborative Review Committee will look at the inmate’s medical history and administer a medical and psychological evaluation before deciding to permit treatment. Gender dysphoria is defined as a conflict between a person’s assigned gender and the gender they identify with.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Gender dysphoria is defined as a conflict between a person’s assigned gender and the gender they identify with.

      I remember getting my gender assignment from dad’s sperm. It was such a proud moment.

      1. WTF

        Yeah, it’s not assigned, it’s just reality. But pointing out biological reality might make all this “identifying” stuff look like the mental illness (in some cases attention-whoring) it actually is.

    2. Chipwooder

      It pissed me off that taxpayer money is used for non-essential surgery and medical treatment.

    3. JD

      gender-affirming surgery

      *Winston Smith pauses, then goes on with work*

      1. leonadasiv

        Haha. You don’t even realize how they twist words until someone points it out.

    1. WTF

      I really don’t understand the objections to this show. Are they denying that the South was actually pro-slavery, and might have continued the practice for some unknown time if they hadn’t been defeated? If not, then why is a show based on that premise so bad?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        There’s a lot of denial (and in some cases none at all) on the right as to what the South was fighting for.

        1. WTF

          But this show’s premise seems to explicitly claim slavery as a casus belli, so what is their objection?

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I was mistaken. The outrage is coming from the left apparently.

            “It is exhausting to think of how many people at HBO said yes to letting two white men envision modern day slavery. And offensive,” tweeted Roxane Gay.

            Don’t enact that labor for them Roxane!

          2. ChipsnSalsa

            Probably 3 or 4 I would think.

            Woooah! I better take break and lie down. That was strenuous.

          3. Juvenile Bluster

            My favorite was the one that said “They’d never greenlight a World War II alternate history where the Nazis won!”, followed by 1000 people pointing out Man in the High Castle.

          4. WTF

            They really are clueless idiots.

          5. Waterfall Insurance

            They need to consult non cis het male POC on how white cis het males would implement slavery in a modern setting. Otherwise it’s som

          6. Waterfall Insurance

            .. something evil. Sorry phone error.

      2. Grumbletarian

        I have no problem denying that the South would have continued slavery for well over a century after the Industrial Revolution. The economic advantages technology has over slavery would have driven them to discontinue the practice WELL before the 21st century.

        1. We had this discussion – It would not be as common, the economies of truth pushing towards other modes of operation, but it might very well still be legal, and a status symbol “I can afford to keep people.”

        2. Agent Cooper

          Modern slaves would be more custodial in nature I would imagine.

          1. Brett L

            Something like a prison work farm?

          2. The Last American Hero

            More like personal manservant or personal whore that can’t quit their job.

      3. xenophon

        I find it objectionable because, as a born and raised Southerner, I’m sick of liberal coastals finding exciting and new ways to take a shit on my home and the people I love. It’s tiresome.

        1. Agent Cooper

          Especially when liberal enclaves can be as racist or more than any place in the South. I mean, in the South there’s much more daily integration.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            This is very true. After living in the south I know that people of all races, colors, creeds and socioeconomic status hate Nick Saban.

        2. Pomp

          For my whole life I’ve been a westerner or a “Yankee”, but it’s always been uncomfortable for me to listen to holier-than-though pricks shit all over southerners. Having a good-natured chuckle about Cletus the hillbilly winning Powerball or Florida Man or what have you is one thing, but the earnest “backward racist South” and “pure as the driven snow righteous Northerner” combo is tiresome as fuck.

          It can work both ways too. There are plenty of prejudiced retards from the south that want nothing to do with a “Yankee”.

          It’s just tribalism all the way down.

        3. CampingInYourPark

          So much this. I suppose they think we’re supposed to feel guilty in perpetuity for having ancestors that did what every other person’s ancestors also did.

          1. DesigNate

            Which is doubly stupid when you look at interstate immigration trends from 1865 to today. Never mind the fact that the vast majority of white Southerners didn’t have the means to own slaves in the first place. Or the fact that Northerners owned slaves too.

        4. Emmerson Biggins

          pretty much this.

          Hasn’t this horse been dug up and defiled enough times? Can’t they just spank it to the footage from last time?

  19. Drake

    Brain damaged man says crazy things.

    1. WTF

      I see the surgery to cut out the tumor hasn’t affected his war-mongering lunacy.

  20. Pomp

    Prefer my version of the links? Please let sloop know in the comments. Oh, and a link to a song

    Whoever is the purveyor of daily links is my hero, because I am a lazy piece of shit. So, cin-cin.

    1. straffinrun

      Right, RIGHT?! Bunch o’ whiners and abusers of the commons upthread.

      1. *sheds single tear of gratitude*

  21. Pope Jimbo

    Body cam footage from dog shooting cop released.

    Trigger warning. It looks worse than it did on the original security cam footage.

    1. I could only watch a bit of that before my blood started to boil… WTF!

      why is the cop in the backyard?
      those dogs weren’t aggressive at all: Wagging tail? Hello?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        You missed the part where he is talking to the gal at the front door? Where he shows all the emotional range of Keanu Reeves saying it is “unfortunate” and “I love dogs”?

        And yeah, looking at that first dog who isn’t even heading in his direction and wagging its tail getting shot is pretty fucking bad.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Speaking of Keanu Reeves, would anyone have blamed her if she went all John Wick on him after that?

          1. WTF

            If that had been my home where some asshole came into my back yard and killed my dogs, I would have come out immediately guns blazing. And likely end up dead or in jail for life.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      The copsuckers are still gonna copsuck here. Here’s an example comment.

      Are any of you people flapping your gums here police officers?? Nope. Just a pack of sheep following the same b.s. the next person says. So quick to point fingers when the situation isnt in your favor, guess thats what we get in this liberal pussified state. It takes a split second for a dog to snap, litterally. Being a cop in that city responding to that type of situation is just a bad deal. Im sure the officer dint jump out of bed to make leas then the average decant tax payer in this state does to go put his life on the line and shoot someones pet.

      (all spelling errors above retained herein, just because)

      1. WTF

        How do UPS drivers, mail carriers, etc. manage to handle these daily encounters with dogs without slaughtering them? Are cops such pants-shitting pussies and cowards they can’t even handle obviously friendly dogs? Or maybe they really are sociopaths with a jones for killing.

        1. egould310

          My ups driver was attacked by two dogs two weeks ago. One bit him pretty good on the leg. He fell over a fence trying to get away and tore his rotator cuff. He was back on the job after a day off. He didn’t shoot any of the dogs. Nice guy.

        2. Gustave Lytton
      2. straffinrun

        Serious question. How many dogs have actually seriously injured or killed cops in the past 10 years or so? If it’s more than 5, I’ll be surprised.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Killed is zero. I’m not sure about seriously injured, but I’d be surprised if that wasn’t zero too (unless you go by the cop definition of “seriously injured”, which likely involves a chihuahua nipping their heels)

        2. WTF

          So you can see how effective their shoot first policy is at making certain they go home safely after their shift.

      3. The Elite Elite

        Yup, a split second for a dog to snap. Somehow, I don’t think that split second will mean instant death for the cop. He can wait for that snap to happen before shooting a dog. If these POS cops are so terrified for their lives that they need to fire their guns at anything that could even possibly may might become a threat, maybe they shouldn’t be fucking cops! For God’s sake, soldiers are expected to show more restraint, and their lives are in far more danger than police will ever face. Also, I’d love to see what the salary of cops are compared to the average American’s salary. Oh wait, the person used a weasel word “average decent tax payer.” So I guess he/she can throw out any salary that might bring the average below what cops make.

        1. The dog feared for its life.

        2. Mad Scientist

          It takes a split second for a cop to snap. Do we get to shoot them for our safety?

      4. Mustang

        Umm, at the risk of opening myself up to a host of things, I am actually a cop. I’m also in a position to direct the training of the other cops who work for me and it is specifically because of the Glibs here showing nutpunch after nutpunch that I quietly implemented a program where my K9 handlers routinely train my straightlegs on how to identify friendly vs. aggressive behavior in animals and react appropriately. It’s never been an issue.

        I’ve also implemented a number of other programs and the frequent refrain from my trainers whenever some idiot new guy spouts off about use of force or “fearing for their safety” is “do you want to look like one of those morons on the news? No? Then shut the fuck up and think through these things.”

        Cops need to stop being so fucking sensitive. Your job is to protect people. It’s not to go home safely at night. It’s to ensure that everyone, criminals included, stay alive. So kindly fuck off with your cowardly shit because I’ve been through it (this includes the people who will support them without a second thought).

        1. Tundra

          Thanks, Mustang. I have heard similar things from cop friends. The smart ones recognize that the PR battles are being lost every day.

          1. Mustang

            To be clear, I’m military police, but we do the day-to-day law enforcement on base and encounter the same things, especially on larger bases. I often have to work with civilian law enforcement (yes, they are civilians despite what they think) and I don’t find them to be particularly agreeable, in part because of the rational counter-arguments I read lurking around here.

          2. RegicidalManiac

            Christ, thank you. The “Cops aren’t civilians” thing pisses me the hell off.

            They’re at least nominally subject to civil (rather than military) law, that makes them civilians. Full stop.

        2. DOOMco

          I have no real issue with police. I only want them to shoot after being shot at (or in this case bit).

          We all have risks in the job we take. Police probably have more than others, but we all knew that going in. if they think they’re going into a battlefield, maybe they can use the same rules the military does.

          1. CampingInYourPark

            “I only want them to shoot after being shot at”

            I think this is an unreasonable thing to ask of someone. An actual threat should be enough to warrant acting in self-defense even if it’s difficult to determine sometimes. I think the solution, as imperfect as it is, would be to have all cases of violence tried in court.

          2. WTF

            “I only want them to shoot after being shot at”

            I think this is an unreasonable thing to ask of someone.

            Military ROE right now basically requires this. In an actual war zone with actual hostiles. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to hold cops to the same standard with their fellow citizens. If they don’t want the risk, find another job. They are supposedly there for the public’s benefit, not to ensure their own safety above all else and at the risk of the public.

          3. DOOMco

            someone military could chime in, but i think in their ROE they have to get permission after being shot at.

          4. DOOMco

            I think to find a reasonable line, we might have to use the military ROE for now. I think the mil ROE might be a little extreme when in a combat situation, but we have people who legally carry who get shot here.

          5. ^This. There are many places with comparatively strict gun laws that still allow open carry, so it’s not unreasonable to imagine a law-abiding, peaceful citizen going about his or her way with a loaded firearm visible on their person. It’s also, sadly, not surprising that in many of these places police will see a person carrying a holstered firearm as a threat by default. Hell, if a dog is a threat because it is possible that the dog could bite the cop then an openly-carried firearm should fall in the same idiotic category.

          6. WTF

            Police work is not especially risky. According to the stats, cops are pretty far down on the list, even sanitation workers have higher on the job mortality than cops do. Yet we don’t allow the garbage man to violate our rights because he has a “dangerous” job.

        3. DOOMco

          I’ve thought about that route for a career before. Statie, I suppose. How do you square your libertarian leanings with it? I think that would be my biggest hang up.

          1. Mustang

            I’m getting out of the law enforcement role and running far away from it specifically because I can’t square it with my principles anymore. I have entertained the idea of joining civilian law enforcement with the intent to reform it but my experiences with working them have been less than impressive. I just want away from the legal horseshit and corruption that ties my hands so often. Everything you guys complain about on here is true from my anecdotal experience.

          2. DOOMco

            Fair enough. I’m not an anarchist, so I’m not so apposed to police. I think they have a drastically unrealistic view of society.
            I assume the mil side is a little better at that.

          3. Mustang

            I won’t lie, working with federal law enforcement and local law enforcement frequently, I’ve found myself understanding why people would leak information.

            When the FBI shows up to an exercise riding Blackhawks with better gear than I can get my troops, I have a really hard time not ranting.

          4. DOOMco

            opposed. jesus.

        4. CampingInYourPark

          I don’t have a problem with a cop wanting to go home safely at night, and I’m sure that there are some actual situations that are going to scare a person to the point of going into self-preservation mode, but ffs please keep in mind that all the rest of us are also mere men and like to go home safe at night as well.

        5. Old Man With Candy

          Mustang, if you’d consider doing a piece for us about your experiences, about the people you’ve worked with, and the evolution in your thinking, I think that would be fantastic. I’d love to understand the POV of a principled LEO and I thing the rest of your fellow Glibs would as well.

          1. Mustang

            I will definitely consider it. Bit swamped right now but I’ll get started!

          2. Old Man With Candy

            Thanks a lot, you have a set of experiences that the rest of us don’t.

        6. Pine_Tree

          Yeah, thanks Mustang; good job. If I could make a request as a fellow reader here, please promulgate the notion amongst your students that once they get in the civilian world they are “Peace Officers”, not “Law Enforcement Officers”. Words/mindset/culture matters.

          (I guess in MP roles it actually is proper to use the LEO term – dunno.)

        7. Fatty Bolger

          After reading your last sentence, I was going to ask if you were ex-military, but I see you answered that below. You see that protective attitude more often with cops who come from a military background.

    3. Haybob

      Do police departments hire mental case officers? Or does the stress of the job cause mental issues with officers? I’d love to see a deep dive study into this.

      1. Haybob

        Bla haven’t had my caffeine yet. Do departments hire police officers who are mental cases?**

        1. WTF

          I think given the current realities of the job (virtually unlimited authority to fuck with people without consequence) that the job naturally attracts sociopaths.

          1. Drake

            And repels those with a conscience. When I was coming off active duty in my mid 20’s, I could have very easily got myself a slot in a police academy. No question my total earnings and retirement package would have been much larger if I had taken that route.

            But I could not see myself being the asshole writing people tickets on their way to work, hassling teenagers for drinking (like I did), etc…

          2. WTF

            And if you exercised your conscience regarding the malfeasance and assholery of your fellow cops, your career would have been very short anyway.

    4. Gadfly

      Nitpick: you should have written “dog-shooting cop” instead of “dog shooting cop”. I initially thought this was a freak case of a dog somehow shooting a cop. Although maybe that bizarre misinterpretation is all on me.

  22. Chipwooder

    Florida Man needs to beat his worthless children more.

    1. Hammercorps

      Chipwooder needs a beating more often so he remembers to post working links.

      1. straffinrun

        You need to hit it like ten times before it works.

        1. WTF

          The links are SF’d all the way down!

          1. Chipwooder

            Your link doesn’t work!

          2. ChipsnSalsa

            I picked up on your joke UCS.

          3. WTF

            *Drinks more coffee*
            Oh!

    2. Chipwooder

      I even double checked that time

      1. straffinrun

        Oh, FFS. Evil has won.

      2. Could have linked to this instead.

        1. Agent Cooper

          That I can understand — her hair is did, and she’s wearing that lovely coat. Why mess all that up?

      3. Scruffy Nerfherder

        “To think that anyone would just lack any kind of moral conscience to call for help,” Martinez said. “It’s one thing to see something and not want to put yourself at risk, but to not call anybody, to sit there and to laugh and humiliate this person is beyond my comprehension.”

        I mean, they didn’t even call their lawyer or union rep! For God’s sake!

        1. Chipwooder

          I like what you did there

      4. Agent Cooper

        So should the suicide text message girl go free?

      5. MikeS

        I have a feeling these little psychopaths are going to make their little corner of Florida hell in the not too distant future.

        1. WTF

          Well, until they end up getting shot when they fuck with the wrong person.

          1. Drake

            Seriously. If that was a member of my family, there names and pictures would be on a list and my life would be dedicated to crossing each name out.

  23. Scruffy Nerfherder

    The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations

    In which, Michelle Obama receives high praise for using twitter to simultaneously wish a Happy Birthday and virtue-signal.

    1. I’m sorry, but the exhorbinate bill from Shelly O’s innumerable vacations says Mel is the better first lady so far.

    2. WTF

      What about Michele’s courageous “Bring back our girls” sad-face hashtag campaign? Now that’s a great first lady!

      1. Until she does a hashtag for the boys slaughtered by Boko Haram, I’m going to assume she’s a misandrist.

        1. WTF

          Pretty good bet your assumption is correct.

        2. The Elite Elite

          #WhoCaresAboutTheBoys?

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Michelle is an elitist ignoramus who thinks she knows food and pimps out beliefs and supports regulations that harm children and the overall health of people.

      For once she’s proud of her country? GTFOH.

    4. westernsloper

      Occupy Democrats has to be the most ignorant of all Prog groups. Their Obamagasms are downright creepy.

  24. The Zenome Project

    Maxine Update: Every Team Red guy groans in sadness as she admits she doesn’t want to (um, can’t) run. I was briefly thinking about an ultra-moonbat Kamala/Maxine ticket, but alas that’s only a dream.

    1. I think she’s an idiot, but cunning enough to realize that her poverty-pimp schtick will only work to secure her current, safe seat, and that it won’t fly in flyover country.

      1. The Zenome Project

        If she wants to make herself useful, she should agree to switch jobs with Samantha Bee. Maxine’s at least unintentionally hilarious.

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          Then you would have Samantha Bee in Congress, nobody needs that.

    2. California electors wouldn’t be able to vote for both Harris and Waters.

    3. straffinrun

      As the top Democrat on the Financial Services Committee

      Don’t you just feel like the next Lehman shock is going to be just a tad worse?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Democracy in action.

      2. westernsloper

        That is how she cuts breaks for her husbands bank isn’t it?

    4. Pomp

      I prefer to be an optimist that Harris is merely a scumbag opportunist and not a moonbat.

      1. The Elite Elite

        I’m not sure that’s better than being a true believer.

        1. Pomp

          You’re probably right.

  25. Scruffy Nerfherder

    He just really likes donuts

    A 26-year-old man has been charged with robbing a doughnut store on Johnstown Road twice this week.

    1. The first time was a practice run.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      You have to go through the proper channels to become a police officer.

    3. WTF

      Cop?

  26. Juvenile Bluster

    Trailer for Kingsman: The Golden Circle. Damn I can’t wait for this movie.

    1. Same here. It looks like they kept the same tone and everything!

  27. robc

    Kuchar went +1 today and is one stroke behind the leaders now, Spieth and Koepka haven’t teed off, but no one else playing the morning session today made a move.

    The only golfer better than -1 so far today is Zach Johnson, who shot a -4 to get to +1 overall.

    1. straffinrun

      Until we get to the weekend, I’m not paying attention.

  28. Rufus the Monocled

    Re asshole progressives who stop talking to friends and family because they thing they’re so smart, moral and revolutionary. Gavin on having lost friends because of politics:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnSDdpzq2oo

    1. CPRM

      My mom said she found my 5 year old niece crying because she couldn’t lover her Nana because Nana voted for Trump. My brother ain’t a wackadoodle, but his wife is. At least now she tempers it around other people, but I can’t imagine the fucked up shit she talks about in private if she put that in my nieces head.

      1. I’d think being five years old and being Nana’s lover would be creepy.

        1. CPRM

          Why the hell is there still no edit button!

      2. Count Potato

        That’s just wrong.

      3. CPRM

        I guess to fair to my sister-in-law, it doesn’t appear this was directed solely at my mom, because my niece asked her if she had voted for trump and when my mom said she did, then my niece said that. So what ever the hell she’s being told, it is that she should hate all trump voters, not just family.

        1. Count Potato

          Still wrong.

          1. WTF

            It’s beyond just wrong, it’s sick.

  29. Rufus the Monocled

    “Better Skills, Better Jobs, Better Wages”

    “Better whiners, better diversity, better cucks”

    1. Define “Better”

    2. robc

      Do a better job and you will get better wages.

    3. PieInTheSKy

      But better skill for better wages is offensively untrue

      https://twitter.com/notwokieleaks/status/888166814311731200

      1. straffinrun

        Dionysos ☭Ⓐ‏ @arlaqin

        @notwokieleaks
        I mean you seem to care about the objectively true. It is undeniable that millennials are the most educated and skilled gen in history

        Undeniable, eh?

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Most educated is probably true, in that more of them go to college than in previous generations (though we can argue what a modern college education is worth).

          Skilled? Nope.

          1. WTF

            Actually, credentialed is not the same as educated. So I would argue give the lack of intellectual and scientific rigor in many study areas these days, that they are not even close to the most educated either.

          2. Gadfly

            ^ This. Most credentialed generation is the only thing remotely close to what that tweeter (twit?) that is actually objectively true. True education encompasses far more than formal education, such that an un-credentialed person can in fact be more educated than a credentialed one.

          3. straffinrun

            I’d say boomers and gen xers had a better education. Maybe not college degrees, but at least you could read if graduated high school.

          4. Rufus the Monocled

            And they still manage to be illiterate.

            I doubt, for example, most of them read the classics judging with my interactions with them.

            Rufus: Hey, how about that Moliere, eh?
            Tattooed bearded Millennial: Who?

          5. Pomp

            Moliere

            ::Enters Moliere into wikipedia::

            PPFFTT, totally. Stupid illiterate millenials.

          6. Old Man With Candy

            I had a bright young scientist working for me (BS and MS degrees) who had never even heard of Orwell or 1984. I told him he was a dumbass. That night, he went home and complained to his wife that I had been mean to him. “He called me a dumbass because I never heard of something called 1984.” She responded, “The Orwell book? You don’t know that? He’s right, you ARE a dumbass.”

            So I’ll give that generation a 50% grade.

          7. Pomp

            That book was required in my 9th grade English class.

          8. Mad Scientist

            While a sample size of two might be plenty for the back of your windowless van…

          9. Gustave Lytton

            Confirmed: Rufus is a misanthrope.

        2. JD

          They misspelled “entitled”.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        “What it means is: we won’t change the economy to benefit the workers. Workers get what they deserve – if they want better they have to BE better”

        Wait, this woman he’s quoting actually thinks that’s a BAD thing? Isn’t it, like, a fundamental rule of economics? You get paid more if you bring more value to your employer?

        1. WTF

          No, because everyone HAS A RIGHT to a comfortable living wage, shitlord!

    4. The Elite Elite

      DO ANY OF THEM EVEN WORK!?

    5. CPRM

      The Papa John’s angle just made me think of this photoshop the news entry I did when Peyton Manning retired.

  30. DOOMco

    “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”
    Found on that OG quote link.

  31. FreeSociety

    From the bottom of my heart, thank you for the lack of sports bullshit, Banjos.

    1. Drake

      I was hoping he would let Sloopy know that the Astros got beaten like a redheaded stepchild last night.

      1. FreeSociety

        There needs to be a study to determine why red headed step children are so damn deserving of beatings.

        1. R C Dean

          Gingers, man.

          1. Drake

            Constant reminder that the old lady slept with one.

        2. Tonio

          My assumption was always that “stepchild” was a euphemism for a child who was the product of the wife’s infidelity.

          1. WTF

            Bingo

    2. You are always free to post sports free links somewhere else. Complaining about them here is a bit whiny.

      1. FreeSociety

        You are always free to post sports-full links somewhere else. Complaining about someone complaining about them here is a bit butthurty.

        *Sniveling in someone else’s house about the furniture*

        1. Pomp

          *sigh*

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            What’s that I hear?

            Is that the sound of an incoming cat-butt?

          2. Pomp

            Meh. I’m more than alright with the sports stuff I don’t care about – beggars can’t be choosers. The way sloopy presents the links after that more than makes up for the “inconvenience” of scrolling idly past the verbiage. Plus, it’s extremely common for him to be like “okay, now we got that sports stuff out of the way, on to the important stuff.”

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I was actually referring to the Freeman. I would never advocate cat-butting a fellow RF/Microwave nerd.

          4. Pomp

            Are you fucking kidding me? Some of the most punchable pricks on earth are e-mag fetishists. Fucking dorks.

          5. Scruffy Nerfherder

            *quickly hides collection of historically important Yagis*

        2. Tonio

          Freebie, Swiss is one of the Glib founders. You know, the people who contributed time and money to make this place. IOW, you are a guest here and you are acting in a churlish and ungrateful manner.

          1. FreeSociety

            Give me a fucking break. I didn’t say anything that should have produced butthurt, but it did. If someone wants to get shitty with me I’ll get shitty right back at them, I don’t care from which noble lineage they are descended. Ban me if that’s what the situation calls for.

          2. Tonio

            ?
            /
            \
            ( * )

          3. FreeSociety

            Nice butthole, I think.

          4. My, we are pleasant today, aren’t we FS.

            You could leave and not diminish this site one jot. Or, you can stick around and whine, I suppose.

          5. FreeSociety

            Just ban me if you want. The hurt in your butt is apparently very deep. I’m a prick because I put the word ‘bullshit’ next to ‘sports’, then I was a huger prick because I returned fire on one of my betters. This is petty as fuck.

          6. You seem fascinated by “butthurt” – its just a bit of weariness about us putting up hundreds of posts and we get someone belching in the corner that the food is lousy….and the portions are so small!

            If we are such a burden on you, depart for greener pastures. If you can not be such a snarling oaf, stick around and enjoy the variety of topics,links, articles and commenters.

          7. FreeSociety

            *Extended sniveling*

            HOW ABOUT WE CALL IT A DAY ON THIS, EH?

          8. Mad Scientist

            Maybe if you put up 10 or 12 more posts explain how you’re not the one who’s butthurt we’ll start to see it.

          9. Bit strong, though, don’t you think?

          10. FreeSociety

            That’s the vibe I’m getting.

          11. MikeS

            Wow. I’ve never gotten the vibe that you were a prick. I guess I just didn’t notice until now.

          12. FreeSociety

            Right back at ya I guess?

          13. I’ll get shitty right back at them

            That’s sure to work out well. Why bite the hand that feeds you links?

          14. FreeSociety

            I thanked the hand as I recall. I’m so sorry to have deeply offended everyone. Excuse me while I go cry into a pillow.

          15. Specifically, I was referring to Swiss, who often does the links. I’m not sure what you hope to accomplish being surly and childish this way, but it’s rather unbecoming. I could speculate that you’re better than this, but I hate being proven wrong.

          16. FreeSociety

            I spoke ill of sports. Then I’m called a whiner and invited to leave the site altogether. And instead of kissing feet I fired back. If that’s enough to change your opinion of me well I guess I must have been on thin ice for a while now.

          17. I guess I must have been on thin ice for a while now

            Hard to argue with that logic.

          18. JW

            I’m called a whiner and invited to leave the site altogether.

            Door. Ass.

            It’s always open and swings both ways. A clever man will divine the obvious hints lobbed directly at his thick fucking head and, hopefully, act accordingly.

      2. DOOMco

        it’s like 4 lines of text. I don’t get the hubbub.
        When college football starts, I’ll be doing some updates for the PAC12.

        1. FreeSociety

          There is no hubbub. Except the people taking shit personal. I PROMISE I’LL NEVER SAY MEAN THINGS ABOUT SPORTS AGAIN FORGIVE ME!

          1. Say all the bad stuff about sports you want – whining about how we do our posts…eh. Not productive, no value added to conversation.

          2. FreeSociety

            *Extra bitching and whining*

            TOPIC CONCLUDED.

          3. F. Stupidity Jr.

            Comment #4 in this thread was made in the exact same spirit, but not a word of censure.

        2. westernsloper

          I like the sports blurbs. I don’t follow sports closely, so I like the update on the goings on.

        3. robc

          I am already prepping my college football weekly preview for week 0.

          My promise is it will be totally unlike any preview anywhere else.

          1. Brett L

            Girls of the SEC vs. Girls of the ACC vs. Girls of the California PAC12 Schools?

          2. DOOMco

            barstool might have that.

          3. Q Continuum

            Arizona PAC12 girls put the rest of the universe to shame. Objective fact.

          4. Chipwooder

            I thought it was the Arizona State girls who did? Granted, I’ve spent a fair amount of time around Tempe and very little around Tucson.

          5. Zunalter

            I agree Chip, every time i was on ASU campus I wondered if they were involved in cloning hot blondes.

          6. Chipwooder

            As long as you don’t include Duke, the ACC will be a strong contender.

        4. I dig on sports. I don’t know, is that weird here? Seems like a number of folks on this site have at least a passing interest in one sport or another.

          1. FreeSociety

            I just called sports bullshit, I didn’t say the people who like sports are bullshit. People on here talk shit about my home state in the most vitriolic terms, yet I never felt the need to get bent out of shape about it or accuse them of being whiney or telling them to leave. It didn’t even change my generally positive opinions of the people saying it. It’s like I slaughtered someone’s sacred cow.

          2. OOC, is your home state California, New York, or New Jersey? I’m just guessing the likely suspects. I’m from Maryland, which is like those states but lacking any of the positive traits while not even being bad enough to be infamous. But at least we have a good flag.

            I don’t know where everyone is, but I know that right here on the sunny shores of Spa Creek, minutes west of the Chesapeake Bay, the heat index is somewhere around 100F and it’s humid as eff with our usual ironic lack of anything like a breeze, so tempers are short as hell.

          3. FreeSociety

            That could be but these flair ups don’t happen very often. If putting the words “sports” and “bullshit” next to each other in a sentence leads people to believe that I’m castigating the founders, the posters, the linkers and their pets then clearly a lot of people want me gone. Perhaps I’ll oblige I don’t know.

          4. MikeS

            Hey Free; from one prick to another, don’t go. You’re alright, kid.

            And I know we’d all miss that avatar.

          5. FreeSociety

            I appreciate that Mike. Take care of yourself 🙂

        5. B.P.

          Go Buffs.

          1. RegicidalManiac

            Damn right.

          2. DOOMco

            I’m a USC fan…

        6. Negroni Please

          Can I write those for you? Update: The PAC12 sucks.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    If only a key Democratic constituency weren’t actively undermining that “better skills” part, I might find them more believable.

  33. DOOMco

    That dog shooting is fucking outrageous.

    1. The Elite Elite

      You can’t possibly know what it’s like to be a cop! They’re out there keeping you safe, and all you can do is criticize them! Next time your house is broken into, CALL A CRACKHEAD!

      1. DOOMco

        8/10.

      2. F. Stupidity Jr.

        Next time your house is broken into, CALL A CRACKHEAD!

        I love that clever cop-sucker rejoinder. You know, because those are your only choices. Someone hits me with that one, my response will be, “No, I’ll call a private investigator so I can get my stuff back.”

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Last time my business was broken into, the cops were of no use whatsoever. The thieves left a trail of candy wrappers back to the rent control apartments (no exaggeration whatsoever), yet the cops couldn’t be bothered to go ask around or investigate. They just put me thru my paces and paperwork so they could respond to the insurance company and left it at that.

          1. F. Stupidity Jr.

            Next time, call a crackhead. The results won’t be any worse.

          2. DOOMco

            I was at a friends and we saw a crackhead on the roof of the porch to the apartment below us. he had just robbed the place below. she ran to the window and scared the fuck out of him. he fell off the roof and hit the fence, it looked like he had to have sprained or broken an ankle.
            when the cops came, they asked if they could search her place. she said no and they got all pissy. then they left.

          3. FreeSociety

            Back in my days of big city livin’, my house was broken into three times when I was at work. My neighbor witnessed it each time, said he personally knew the convicted felon responsible, he gave the cops the guy’s name, the guy’s oily finger prints were so present that they were actually visible to the naked eye on my white walls. It would have been the easiest case in the world to solve. The responding officer said they had better things to do. Supposedly she (the officer) was involved in a big marijuana bust. Which is like totally more important than people kicking in your door and invading your home repeatedly.

          4. Lachowsky

            A few weeks ago a buddy if mine had two pistols stolen out of his house by teenage friends of his son. He had photographic evidence of the kids who stole them with the guns in their hands. He gave the evidence to the police and even gave the police the address where the kids and his guns were. Nothing. the cops did absolutely nothing about it.

          5. Tundra

            Did he ever get them back?

          6. Lachowsky

            nope. There are too many people riding around without their seatbelt on and smoking the Devils weed for the cops to find time to follow up on a mere case of a homeowners firearms being stolen from his house.

          7. westernsloper

            No shit? He never went over and retrieved his guns, or at least tell the shit kids parents? I’m not sure he wants his guns running loose. That could end badly for him.

          8. ChipsnSalsa

            Now that OJ is getting out of jail, maybe the juice could help out with property retrieval.

          9. westernsloper

            Hah

        2. Drake

          My uncle was murdered and cops didn’t do shit (didn’t help that he was a Yankee murdered in rural Georgia). My mother hired the best Private Investigators she could find (admittedly two former detectives), and the guy was in custody a week later. Then he pled down to manslaughter, did 7 years of a 20 year sentence, and immediately tried to kidnap a girl when he was released.

          Here he is (and it wasn’t his uncle, he was a 2nd-cousin on the hillbilly loser side of the family).

          1. DOOMco

            wait, you’re related?
            it says he killed his uncle.

          2. Drake

            It wasn’t his uncle. Distant 2nd cousins or whatever. Met the guy once when he was a kid at my grandfather’s funeral. My uncle was down there visiting family when this asshole killed him, buried him in a garden, stole his money and truck, and took off on a drug-fueled joy ride.

        3. Pine_Tree

          The crackhead could actually be incentivized to go get your stuff back for you.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Today, in Tim Egan Watch- an ode to no man’s land.

    But for a time, the Kootenai National Forest fell into the wrong hands. The barbarians nearly destroyed a land that was meant to remain a place of wonder for our children’s children’s children.

    The mountainsides were skinned in industrial clear-cuts, the end result of public servants colluding with corporate plunderers. After the forests of larch, cedar, fir and pine were leveled for timber, the hillsides could no longer hold the ground during times of heavy rain and snowmelt. Tons of sediment slid into the Yaak River, which flows into the Kootenai.

    “Industrial clearcuts” you say? And what, I wonder, became of that timber? You don’t suppose it went all across America, to be used to build houses like the one you grew up in, do you? Or perhaps made into paper such as that on which you smear your feebleminded excrescences? Of course not. Those evil corporate plunderers just cut those trees down and threw them away. When you’re a corporate plunderer, you do stuff like that. In fact, I bet some evil rich guys clearcut that forest so they could hunt from hot air balloons, slaughtering Bambis by the hundreds, even as they sat in serene suspended luxury high above the dirt and bugs, sipping champagne and eating delicacies prepared by their indentured teenage love slaves.

    That’s what I’d do, given half the chance.

    1. DOOMco

      Air balloon somali pirate hunting.

      1. Throw in a picnic basket, a supermodel and some champagne and you have a perfect day.

        1. egould310

          Pinch basket, eh? Sounds sexy…

          1. Edit Fairy got ya!

    2. F. Stupidity Jr.

      The barbarians nearly destroyed a land that was meant to remain a place of wonder for our children’s children’s children.

      Pissfucks like this guy stir a dark impulse within me to go on a child-murder rampage.

      1. Does this guy not understand a very simeple fact – Trees grow back

        1. Zunalter

          Or that they burn down if left to their own devices

    3. Brett L

      Hmm. I drive through the St. Joe Paper Company’s holdings all the time. The only part that is clear-cut and not growing back is the part they sold to developers to build beach houses for rich people. Do you think the paper and timber guys are going to waste land that obviously grows good trees? Just because the field is plowed under doesn’t mean it will never grow again.

    4. Tonio

      National Forests are logging preserves. Egan is confusing National Forests (Dept of Agriculture) with National Parks (Dept of the Interior, perhaps deliberately so. Every serious hiker, hunter, etc knows this difference.

      There are a few Recreation Areas (campgrounds, etc) within the National Forests, but that is not the primary purpose of the National Forests.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    “We need wilderness to protect us from ourselves,” wrote Rick Bass, who was born in Texas, and found his voice after moving to the Yaak Valley some years ago.

    I cannot help wondering if Rick might not one of “those” Basses. You know, *the* Bass Brothers, out of Texas. Billionaires, they are. That seems to be the sort of circle one would expect a New York Times moralizer to travel in. If true, that little homily was more likely than not uttered while sipping antique Scotch flown in from Scotland, while while philosophizing about the view from the veranda of an rustic, yet ultimately rather comfortable, twelve thousand square foot log weekend getaway.

    1. Lachowsky

      “We need wilderness to protect us from ourselves,”

      I’m going to assume this guy has spent little to no time in the wilderness. The wilderness actually tries very actively to kill you. It’s civilization that protects us from the wilderness. That’s kind of the whole point of society.

  36. Tonio

    While not a sportsball fan I do enjoy Sloopy’s commentary. It’s pithy and amusing, and helps me understand what the other folks are talking about.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      *marks Tonio down as new recipient for daily Competitive LARPing newsletter*

  37. Rufus the Monocled

    My Lord the comments in the WaPo article.

    The hate progressives have is something else.

    1. Tundra

      It’s pretty much all they have right now.

    2. DOOMco

      Is that so surprising? Trump and his hordes are characterized by:

      Disrespect for rule of law
      Disrespect for rule of reason
      Disrespect for democracy and its institutions
      Adoring foreign authoritarian “strongmen”
      Inciting hatred against whole groups of people
      Inciting violence
      Love of own race and narrowly defined nation excluding minorities
      Love of the military, parades and uniforms
      Love of mass meetings cheering the leader
      Blaming others
      Feeling betrayed by the “establishment” and “elites”
      Spreading conspiracy theories and lies.
      Hating the press and freedom of speech
      Having the conservatives believing they can control the loud right wing radicals

      For a european it all sounds pretty familiar…

      1. WTF

        Wow, that is an impressive load of projection, right there.

    3. Raston Bot

      hate’s an ugly emotion on just about everybody too. these people must not like looking in the mirror these days.

  38. The Late P Brooks

    Krugabe’s beating his tin drum

    Is Trumpcare finally dead? Even now, it’s hard to be sure, especially given Republican moderates’ long track record of caving in to extremists at crucial moments. But it does look as if the frontal assault on the Affordable Care Act has failed.

    And let’s be clear: The reason this assault failed wasn’t that Donald Trump did a poor selling job, or that Mitch McConnell mishandled the legislative strategy. Obamacare survived because it has worked — because it brought about a dramatic reduction in the number of Americans without health insurance, and voters didn’t and don’t want to lose those gains.

    Has it made people healthier? Who gives a shit? That’s not the metric.

    1. Lachowsky

      Health insurance is not the same as healthcare. derp

      I’m glad trump care is dead. Please just repeal. repeal, deregulate. it’s that simple

      1. Tundra

        I agree with you.

        Further, people will be healthier if they are forced to financially participate in their healthcare. Like everything else, having skin in the game changes the incentives.

      2. Gadfly

        repeal, deregulate. it’s that simple

        While that would be the best option, it’s not going to happen, because the people don’t want it to. I saw a poll the other day (insert standard disclaimer about the reliability of polls) that showed that this is one of the least popular options. People don’t like Obamacare, but most who dislike it want it replaced, not simply repealed. I think the numbers were something like 35% wanted to repeal & replace, 30% opposed repeal, and 20% sided with you, wanting total repeal (the rest had no opinion).

    2. Q Continuum

      I’ve thought: “if all we care about is covering people, let’s just give them plans with one dollar per month premiums, but with $1 billion dollar deductibles and they only cover Mad Cow Disease and nothing else”. There you go, easy peasy. Everyone has equally useless coverage.

      1. Count Potato

        Why should we pay for Rachel Maddow?

    3. Zunalter

      it brought about a dramatic reduction in the number of Americans without health insurance,

      Yea, forcing people at gunpoint to pay for something will do that to a market.

  39. A Leap at the Wheel

    Anyone else watch that Milo video that “NPR doesn’t want you to see?”

    I gotta admit, I’ve read/watched very little of his actual publications. As expected, he’s got the “Conservative Falstaff” bit down, but I thought it was telling that he comes right out and says it. He keeps saying over and over again “I’m telling basic truths and being intentionally, clownishly offensive and you dumb mother fuckers are the only reason I have an audience” and even the slow-witted, dulcet-toned NPR interviewer IN THE SAME ROOM can’s help himself.

    No wonder this guy has such a huge following. He’s got something to appeal to those only in search of the lul’s, and he’s got something to appeal to for those who want to hear some real truth spoken to real power, and he’s got something for those who just want to see a skilled pundit arguing a point. And he’s only able to do what he does because his foes are so, so much worse at what they do that he is.

    So all my preconceived notions are confirmed and I don’t have to grow as a human. Just the way I like it.

    1. Pomp

      Link please.

      1. westernsloper

        Thanks. bookmarked for later

      2. Pomp

        Thx everyone.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Milo is publicity gold. It’s not that journalists stick their dick in crazy, it’s that he’s a treasure trove of free publicity.

      Journalists are not Maoist propagandists. They’re self-involved narcissists who want all the trappings of fame without the effort of producing media.

    3. Q Continuum

      That was a helluva good interview. Had its intended effect on me too; I bought his book right afterward.

    4. WTF

      I find Milo very entertaining, and he pisses off all the right people.

  40. commodious spittoon

    No, YOU got too drunk and stayed up all night playing video games.

    Googled “mouse mouse mouse mouse.” Was not disappointed.

    1. Q Continuum

      What game?

      1. commodious spittoon

        Witcher 3

  41. bacon-magic

    I think I finally being recognized as a libertarian…my phone just finished this sentence with orphans- “I’m out of…”

  42. The Zenome Project

    Since coming up with this idea a few days ago, I have been brainstorming ways that a libertarian could be able to run as a Democrat to adapt to districts like mine (which is D+17!) Here are the ones that I’ve come up with:

    1. Push for marijuana to be descheduled, other illegal drugs to be available by prescription.
    2. Be the voice for full marijuana legalization in North Carolina.
    3. Be the most muscular watchdog for NSA reform enforcement, specifically for bulk surveillance.
    4. My rep, David Price, voted in 2013 against an amendment to the PATRIOT Act that would’ve slowed NSA data collection. Make this the primary focus of the primary.
    5. Support the ending of the cronyist and corporatist Ex-Im Bank. Price has voted in favor many times for reauthorizing the bank in Congress, most recently in 2012.
    6. Become the first major voice in my home state in favor of ending the Alcoholic Beverage Control board for hard liquors and privatizing that industry. Promise to endorse State Reps and Senators in both parties who favor this position.
    7. Advocate against border wall legislation (because it’s poor resource management) but for other, more effective forms of border control.
    8. State that I’m in favor of single-payer, but only if there’s massive entitlement reform and 10 straight years of budget surpluses (Glib tactic). Become the first Democrat to ever join the Freedom and Liberty Caucuses, so that I can be a leading bipartisan voice on the budget.
    9. Become the leading voice against the neocons and the foreign aid gravy train.
    10. Build a pro-choice abortion record, but favor that the rights are reserved to the States.
    11. Stay quiet on the guns, but slowly build a pro-2nd Amendment record.

    Other ideas? Are my ideas nuts or somewhat plausible?

    1. commodious spittoon

      After carefully watching the political scene for the past couple year, I’m pretty sure what Americans want most is an axe handle to the back of the head.

    2. Q Continuum

      I have thought about doing this sort of thing; basically planting libertarians as Dems in super partisan districts. The trick is finding an open seat and then winning the primary since once you get to the general it’s a shoo in and you’ll be mindlessly re-elected forever. I suppose you could just lie to win the primary then do whatever you want after that. It’s not like progs (or most of the general populace for that matter) pays attention to voting patterns.

      1. The Zenome Project

        It wouldn’t work in places like California or Washington state, where two-Democrat general elections are allowed, but it’s not a bad idea for states with more traditional two-party generals like mine.

    3. straffinrun

      “I promise never to vote for gun control measures until we get rid of 2A”.

      1. The Zenome Project

        “I will not support single payer until we get rid of Social Security”

    4. Count Potato

      How you keep people from bringing up economic issues?

      “10. Build a pro-choice abortion record, but favor that the rights are reserved to the States.”

      That’s probably not enough to get the young woman vote.

      1. The Zenome Project

        Run in a wealthy district (like mine is).

        1. Count Potato

          Democrats are still going to want to social signal on economic issues.

          1. Q Continuum

            Easy. Just lie. Once you get elected there is a 99% chance that the only way you’re ever getting out of there is by retiring or dying.

          2. The Zenome Project

            See, I’m a terrible liar, so I’d rather just say that I’m a super-unique, individualistic Democrat a la Kucinich and mostly campaign on what I actually believe.

    5. Old Man With Candy

      Congratulations, you invented Ron Wyden.

      1. The Zenome Project

        Except that I would plan to openly favor Constitutional originalism and won’t do a “common-sense gun grab.”

    6. FreeSociety

      It’s a laudable platform that you got there, and Dems *should* be able to get behind it, but that candidate would lose in the primary to whichever black lesbian transgender cripple says the word “inequality” the most times because that’s the kind of shit that animates their base.

    7. kbolino

      Not enough free shit, you won’t make it through the primary.

      1. The Zenome Project

        Better booze and drug choices isn’t good enough for my constituents? Also, I would promise free shit to my hypothetical constituents, but only if there’s 10 straight years of budget surpluses. I thought that such a strategy would be a good way for progs to cheer when budgets or entitlements are cut.

        1. kbolino

          It doesn’t sound too bad to me, I just feel like attaching too many strings to the free shit means you’ll lose out to someone who doesn’t, reality be damned.

    8. Drake

      Commit to fixing ObamaCare by ending all subsidies to evil insurance companies.

  43. Q Continuum

    “47% of liberals say that someone being a Trump supporter would put a strain on their friendship”

    I am confronting this right now. Best friend, known the guy for 17 years, was best man at his wedding. He has gone from someone who was aggressively apathetic about politics to a raging prog with a terminal case of TDS. That, by itself, wouldn’t matter to me. I may not understand his leanings, but at core I don’t care enough to let it affect things… *except* for the fact that he won’t STFU about politics EVER. I have told him numerous times that I don’t want to talk about it because it has no point, we’re never gonna agree, just let it go. He can’t do it. Not really sure where to go from here with, just avoid the guy for the next 4-8 years? It really sucks that some people let politics take over their lives. I vent here so I don’t talk about that stuff IRL.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I’ve lost several friends over it. Not for being a Trump supporter — because I’m not. I’ve lost them for not going over the top TDS about every thing he does.

      1. Tundra

        “Lost” them.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Look at it this way, it cost you twenty dollars to get rid of him.

          1. Chipwooder

            +1 Louie Dumps

    2. Dude, try being married to someone like that.

      1. DOOMco

        ouch.

        1. I’m just saying, at least during the Obama administration I didn’t have to hear about every single time someone on MSNBC mentioned a person who said that they think Donald Trump was in a line at Starbucks behind a guy whose cousin works for a Russian businessman.

  44. Juvenile Bluster

    In today’s edition of “HOLY SHIT I’M OLD”

    “Appetite for Destruction” by Guns ‘n’ Roses was released 30 years ago today.

    1. Tundra

      Crazy, isn’t it? It sold 30 million copies.

      My favorite Replacements album came out in June of 1987, as well.

      300,000 copies.

      1. WTF

        I love that Replacements album.

      2. egould310

        I was working a summer job as a bus boy/prep cook/toilet scrubber when Appetite came out. My kitchen guys listened to that album, non-stop for 2 months straight. Seriously. Back to back to back, all day, every day. I could occasionally mix in AC/DC, Sabbath, Suicidal Tendencies, Black Flag, Necros. That’s about it. The chef liked GnR, and by god that was what we’re listening to.

        1. Tundra

          Ha! I was working for a prominent electronics retailer and we had one guy who used Appetite as a speaker demo. Over and over and over. I’ll bet it was 15 years before I could listen to it again.

          1. egould310

            Appetite pretty much killed hair metal, and in a way created a space in the music/radio industry for Nirvana/Sonic Youth. Boom! I just said that.

          2. Chipwooder

            Eh….somewhat. GnR were kind of hair metal, but not completely.

            I was in sixth grade in the fall of 1987 and our flag football team in gym class was named Appetite for Destruction.

          3. Emmerson Biggins

            IMO, “Cherry Pie” killed hair metal, not Appetite or GNR.

    2. robc

      Peter Angelos has now owned the Orioles for exactly 1/2 of my life.

      I searched for important events on that date.

  45. The Late P Brooks

    To be sure

    Unfortunately, like so much else in the Trump administration, the reform effort has been plagued by unforced errors. Candice Jackson, the acting head of the Justice Department’s civil rights office, wandered into a minefield when she said that “90 percent” of campus accusations are about regretted drunken sex. Ms. Jackson, who is herself a rape survivor, apologized for being “flippant.” That said, alcohol is a major factor in campus sexual assault.

    Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos’s meeting last week with groups that work on behalf of students accused of assault was another good initiative marred by a misstep. One of the groups, the Carolinas chapter of the National Coalition for Men, has been rightly criticized as extremist for, among other things, referring to Senator Kirsten Gillibrand as an “‘All men are rapists’ misandrist.”

    Cathy Young wants a cocktail.

    1. kbolino

      a rape survivor

      God I hate this. Unless it was a rape and attempted murder, you are not a survivor. A survivor lived through an otherwise life-ending event. Rape is a horrible crime but it’s not murder.

      1. WTF

        It’s like “bullying survivor”, it falsely confers great fortitude and heroism upon someone for “surviving” something which would supposedly destroy most people. It’s the odd case where the left doesn’t like to use the word “victim”.

    1. Count Potato

      I wonder who thought knife control could possibly work? Technologically, that one step above trying to ban pointy sticks.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        From the nation that brought us sock with half a brick innit.

        You can’t effectively control knives. I make them in my garage with a hacksaw, files, sandpaper, and a charcoal grill. And I could fab the saw, files, and forge from raw stock and replace the sandpaper with a rock, if I really had to.

      2. WTF

        Hey, NYC also has its form of knife control. Shocking, I know.

  46. Raston Bot

    ZOMGGG Chipotle’s stock is TANKING!!!!!!111

    it’s down a whopping $6 to only $350/share.

    but in all seriousness, i’ve must’ve been living in a cave my whole life because Chipotle is trading at $350/share for fast fucking food. crazy pills. only explanation.

    1. WTF

      And yet they seem to somewhat regularly sicken their customers with mediocre food. I really don’t get it.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Just one word: GMOs. There’s a great future in GMOs.

    2. Gadfly

      They’ve probably just never split their stock. I’d imagine most successful companies would have sky high prices if they didn’t periodically split their stock.

    3. Zunalter

      fast casual.

    4. Chipwooder

      Well, as Jerry’s friend Seth said in Seinfeld, “Not fast food – good food quickly!”

    1. Count Potato

      IT’S GOING TO MAKE THE FRIGGIN’ FROGS GAY!!

  47. Count Potato

    This is no way to treat the hottest man in Canada:

    https://twitter.com/Lauren_Southern/status/888143158042873857

    1. Q Continuum

      Lauren Southern… I do like her. Very much.

    2. Pomp

      hottest man in Canada

      Hey, that link isn’t about Chad Kroeger. LIES!

  48. Count Potato

    “California College Boss Wants Algebra Graduation Requirement Gone, Says it’s ‘Civil Rights Issue”

    https://heatst.com/culture-wars/california-college-boss-wants-algebra-graduation-requirement-gone-says-its-civil-rights-issue/

    How can California tolerate such blatant Islamophobia?

    1. Q Continuum

      MATH IS RAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!!!!!

      1. Tonio

        Yeah, my algebra teacher was always going on about “slopes.”

        1. And they’re always drawing breasts, saying it’s a “sin curve.” Yeah, it’s a sin, all right.

        2. commodious spittoon

          That’s just tangential.

          1. It’s funny cos it’s true.

          2. Zunalter

            I cot take any more of these puns.

          3. commodious spittoon

            ^secant

    2. Old Man With Candy

      He went to point out to universities like the Carnegie Foundation and the University of Texas, which are also considering dropping the requirements for algebra, and suggested the statistics could substitute algebra as a new requirement.

      Who’s going to break the news to him that you need to understand algebra to do statistics?

      1. Count Potato

        These will be new statistics that don’t appropriate Arab culture.

    3. Why not just cut to the chase and award degrees to anyone who needs one, if all that matters is that employers demand some “credential?”

      I mean, this guy doesn’t seem to be worried about his institution’s degrees getting devalued in the eyes of employers, so why not go the whole hog?

      1. This is even more racist than those “ghetto math problems” which I won’t link to because they’re racist.

  49. Q Continuum

    Morally reprehensible but not illegal. I can get on board with that, unfortunately. Stories like this do make me think that SoCon societal decay theories are less conspiracy-ey though.

    http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2017/07/20/teens-filmed-mocked-drowning-man-cocoa-police-say/495518001/

    1. egould310

      “Police said Dunn turned up at the pond following an argument with his fiancée about 10-to-15 minutes before the incident. The fiancée then left the scene to run errands.
      “The kids were at the park that day smoking marijuana and apparently saw him walk into the water. He walked in on his own. They were watching him,” Martinez said.”

      Sounds like he wanted to drown himself. He succeeded.

    2. Yeah, not illegal, but certainly vile and reprehensible. How can I put it…I don’t believe the state should be involved in any way when these little shits have the skin flayed off of their legs and their feet broken with lead pipe.

    3. The evidence is there for both the decay and pendulum models. With the pendulum model, there is at least hope of a return to sanity/ (assuming there hasn’t been enough damage done by being out at the extreme of the arc)

  50. Tonio

    Apparently Penzey’s Spices just went all-in for the National Women’s March. They are giving away free “replacement” pins for those who misplaced their service pins. Free shipping, too. Penzeys dot com.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Tonio confirmed hacked.

    2. A Leap at the Wheel

      Corporations don’t have first amendment rights.

  51. The Late P Brooks

    Any day, now…

    Self-driving cars are zooming at breakneck speed toward America’s roadways, and Washington is finally reaching for its seatbelt.

    For years, the race to create fully autonomous vehicles went mostly unnoticed by federal lawmakers, who tended to speak of self-driving cars (if they spoke of them at all) as something out of “The Jetsons.” It was an odd blind spot, given how close companies in Silicon Valley and Detroit were to creating mass-market autonomous vehicles, and how many important industries — taxi driving, long-haul trucking and shipping among them — stood to be drastically transformed as a result.

    But now, lawmakers are taking cautious steps toward the driverless future.

    Zooming. Breakneck speed. Before you know it.

    Elon Musk, the chief executive of Tesla, recently told a National Governors Association meeting that within 10 years he expected “almost all” new cars produced in the United States would be fully autonomous.

    If Elon says it, you know it’s true.

    1. Tundra

      Why do we need those AND the hyperloop?

      Oh, and fuck you, Elon.

      1. The automated cars will load and unload themselves from the hyperloop’s peoplemovers.

    2. Q Continuum

      My friends who insist that Musk is a genius are right but not in the way they think; he’s a genius at running cons. He’s the high tech version of PT Barnum.

    3. Chipwooder

      Elon’s got to keep talking about newer projects to distract from the fact that the Tesla house of cards is starting to wobble.

  52. egould310

    Not going for a run today, resting the old legs. Should I go to yoga and look at hot girls in yoga pants? Or bike down to Seal Beach, swim in the ocean and look at bikini girls?

    1. Tundra

      Why not both? Surf and turf, so to speak.

      1. egould310

        Yoga is at 11. Beach operation would happen between 10 till noon. Beach would also involve a stop at the Ballast Point brewery for lunch.

        Beach.

        1. Beach today. Yoga tomorrow!

          (And pics for us on Sunday)

          1. egould310

            Thats actually the plan. Ill try to get some picks at the beach posted.

        2. Mad Scientist

          Bikini girls and a glass of Sculpin. You are living the dream!

          1. Tundra

            The bastard.

          2. egould310

            Disappointing lack of bikini girls so far. It’s early yet. Still a beautiful day.

          3. Tundra

            Not helping. Bastard.

          4. Mad Scientist

            Once one of them sees you, she’ll call her friends and they’ll all put their bikinis on and come down to the beach. Order another beer and give them time to get changed.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Lookit Mr. Universe here, all active and fit.

    3. Mad Scientist

      Do whichever of those you’ve done least recently. You don’t want either group to feel unimportant.

      1. That is right thinking, Mad.

    4. The Last American Hero

      Somewhere out there, a piping hot 23 year old is asking her friends:

      Not going for a run today, should I go to yoga and have creepy old guy leer at me in my yoga pants? Or bike down to Seal Beach, swim in the ocean and get ogled by creepy old guy checking out me in my bikini?

      1. Chipwooder

        Someday when that piping hot 23 year old is a decidedly lukewarm 57 year old, she’ll WISH she had a creepy old guy leering at her!

    5. Agent Cooper

      I am moving to where you live immediately. See you soon.

  53. The Late P Brooks

    This is even more racist than those “ghetto math problems” which I won’t link to because they’re racist.

    *writes up egregiously racist math word problem, wisely deletes it*

  54. Vhyrus

    SPICER RESIGNED! HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK!

      1. Zunalter

        I has a sad.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Man, what will this do to the Sean Spicier feed!?!?

          1. MikeS

            Sean Spicier‏ @sean_spicier 3m3 minutes ago

            Man, forcing a guy out of his job just to silence a parody is harsh

      2. A Leap at the Wheel

        NYT. ” according to a person with direct knowledge of the exchange.”

    1. Agent Cooper

      There will be much glee on my Derpbook.

      Melissa McCarthy hardest hit?

    2. Gadfly

      Trump should go full troll and appoint Milo Yiannopoulos as the replacement Press Secretary.

      1. Vhyrus

        Oh please. PLAESE TRUMP!

        My vote is for Ted Nugent myself.

        1. WTF

          Oh dear God, either of those and I would record every press conference to play over and over.

          1. Drake

            I would bring my laptop to the cafeteria and work in front of the TV every time.

      2. one true athena

        now that you’ve said it, I want to live in that timeline SO BADLY now.

    3. Q Continuum

      What will Sean Spicier have to say about this?

    4. Pomp

      Shameless propaganda minister resigns.

    5. Fatty Bolger

      He wants to devote his full attention to his new show.

    6. Zunalter

      Resignation based on conscientious objection to the new Comm. Director pick, or was he looking to jump overboard as soon as the first plausible opportunity presented itself?

  55. The Late P Brooks

    A dust-up in the comments?

  56. AlmightyJB

    “Please let sloop know in the comments.”

    He already knows we like you better.

    1. Mad Scientist

      Sloopy has that awesome mustache though…. Banjos with a mustache would blow him out of the water!

      1. Bobarian LMD

        That sounds kinky.