In alarming, but not surprising, news, the Department of Justice is demanding over 1.3 million IP addresses and associated contact information for visitors to a website hosted by Dreamhost, a Los Angeles-based web hosting company. Our web host.
The only surprising aspect of the case is that it is not Glibertarians.com that is targeted. The website in question is disruptj20.org, “a website that organized participants of political protests against the current United States administration,” according to Dreamhost. Not only is the contact and personal information of the site visitors wanted, the DOJ is also pushing for access to photographs of protesters that are on the site’s server, and what content the website visitors viewed.
If you don’t want something coming back to bite you in the ass, don’t put it online in any form. Almost everyone gets this. (Well, maybe not the assorted criminals who are easily apprehended after posting videos of their criminal exploits publicly on Facebook.) This has been a concern for far longer than the current administration has been around, as I am quite sure the Glibertariat is well aware. Hell, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court was established in 1978, and it has been perverted and allowed to be used for nefarious purposes willy-nilly ever since, completely gutting Fourth Amendment protections.
However, web browsing is something that most people do automatically, without thinking too much about the ramifications. Of course, many people routinely block their browsing history from spouses, children, bosses and other people in their daily lives. (Visitors to the Certified Family Friendly website Glibertarians.com should certainly be doing so.) It’s far more difficult to block one’s browsing history from one’s internet service provider, and from the web host of sites one visits.
But back to Dreamhost. Dreamhost has a long history of attempting to protect its users by challenging law enforcement requests for information and legally rejecting them. In 2014, for example, DH was able to legally block 57% of the information requests it received.
I’ve been a Dreamhost customer for a decade, give or take. I use DH for all websites I build and domains I register, no matter who owns the site. One of the first things that sold me on DH was the ability to have one’s domain registrant and contacts protected by DH during a whois search, at a time when most other web hosts and domain registrars simply wouldn’t bother. I was happy to avoid random obnoxious marketers targeting website owners, and the occasional too-ardent admirer.
Since then, I’ve repeatedly seen that Dreamhost makes sincere and real efforts to protect more than my mailing address.
My concern over the gutting of the Bill of Rights by the government has increased steadily since 9/11. That dismantling shows no sign of slowing down. It gives me some tiny measure of comfort that Dreamhost shares that concern.
And THAT is why Dreamhost is our host.
If so led, show DH a little appreciation by commenting on their post (link below) or giving a quick shoutout on Twitter or Facebook.
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Does this mean we’re allowed to post as many things about woodchippers as we want?
I am not paying good money here to get product placement
But it is good to see occasional fightback against the goddamn government. And I amkj sure this is totally not what leftists intend when they want bigger government, they want only what they like
Romanian lei aren’t good money. :-p
You can use it to buy tuica branza and Romanian escorts so it is good enough.
Unfortunately no one else accepts currency made out of peasant bones.
Better than Venezuelan bolivars. I’m pretty sure the lower denominations of which serve as toilet paper now.
What about my One Hundred Trillion Zimbabwe Dollars?
Hah! I have $180 trillion Zim!
Venezuela hasn’t gotten to the point where their money is so devalued it’s an object of mockery in wealthy nations. Yet.
Aww, I only have #110 Trillion Zib.
Toilet paper is probably significantly more valuable as a currency in Venezuela.
So you spend your toilet paper to buy bolivars to wipe your ass
My sister’s brother’s cousin makes $5,000 a day by promoting products!
instagram fitness lady here
Would.
She’s THICC.
Is that one of those Swiss military trucks? I forget the name.
Samil 20
South African
Thanks. I was thinking of the Pinzgauer.
yeah, like tundra said, it’s a Samil.
Any cab-over would be a ton of fun. unimogs, C303, M1081.
The 1081 you can find here from the gov auction sites for decently cheap. They can be registered and are legal for road use.
It’s a good thing I don’t have land. I’ve enough redneck in me too have a fleet of odd vehicles on my lawn.
I don’t know where I got this gene from. dad like old british cars. I like them too, sure, but really like some more redneck or military trucks.
i want one of these.
Not a cab-over, but badass.
A Jeep screwed a Volkswagen after the war?
No, that’s more land rover than jeep. But the mother was definately a VW Bug.
It might have been the bug’s ugly cousin, the Thing
My HS math teacher had a VW Thing that she kept at her beach house. We were there one weekend (I was on the math team!), and that little beater was a blast to drive around on the beach.
that is snazzy!
Reminds me of the old dodge power wagons. I like it.
A friend of mine had a Unimog 404 with front and rear PTO, backhoe, plow etc… with the crawler gearing it was so slow (top speed about 50 mph) that he bought a 19′ roll back to actually be able to move it from place to place. Driving it anywhere was a chore, and it didn’t do loader work as well as a tractor. like most do everything vehicles, it did nothing well.
Yeah, I wouldn’t want one for tractor use. I can imagine the swiss army knife approach to a truck would take its toll.
*sheepishly looks around*
I’m not paying good money here.
*puts stacks of Zimbabwe dollars on desk*
the occasional too-ardent admirer
/looks up innocently and whistles
You escaped detection.
nice.
OMWC is the one that got through.
Yeah, but to be fair to the others who tried, OMWC was sitting outside SP’s parents home in that van when she was 15.
Please. 8.
Surprised daily stormer didn’t try to hit them up. I am also surprised an LA based company cares this much. Do they know about us?
To me the daily stormer still looks like a parody site
Hopefully, we look like a parody site when the garden gnome notices us. “those Glibs, they are funny guys!”
“Yeah boss, they’re funny guys. We’ll shoot them last”
Wait, we’re not?
Ok. Try this exercise. Imagine Jeff Sessions reading the comments here and laughing out loud and saying ‘hey you guys, come over here, these guys are a riot!’.
I think he would find at least some of this site entertaining.
I’m hoping SNP would get a giggle out of him.
I agree that the Scottish National Party is funny, but what do they have to do with us?
He would probably find that some people here have admitted to once smoking mareejuaner, mareejuaner is bad and good people don’t use it. These must be bad people.
“Good people don’t smoke marijuana or visit Glibertarians.com!”
Logical “or”?
That makes me doubleplus ungood. Triple, because I write stuff here, too.
For all my opinion on Those People, I’m glad Dreamhost is telling the government to go get rekt. Hopefully Trump string of failures at courts will continue!
I was commenting on this topic (not the hosting service, but the left and 2nd free speech), a day or so ago. The left have been advocating for a long time, the suppression of their rivals speech, by any means possible. I warned that it will come back to bite them. I will say right here that I am totally against the DOJ being able to conduct a wide net surveillance like this, on anyone. Be careful what you wish for, lefties. Are you learning something here? Of course not.
Shit, I meant ‘the first amendment’, not the 2nd free speech. Ye gads, where the fuck did that even come from? I’ve had nothing but water and coffee to drink.
You need some butter and coconut oil!
My cow hasn’t been delivered yet.
I had my phone correct “got” to “Gorbachev”.
WTF!
I thought that was some sort of Cockney rhyming slang.
The DOJ should definitely go after anyone who disagrees with me, and leave anyone who agrees with me alone.
/everyone except libertarians
Sounds reasonable
I disagree.
You’re both wrong.
I likes the Dreamhost then. Thanks. You are the best SP. Bar none.
I didn’t know bacon was capable of having a brown nose.
Cook it a little longer, it will turn from pink to brown.
If your bacon has nose in it you need to find a better butcher.
Sinclair Foods guarantees 100% less human content than their compeditors – and it’s cheap. Just because it sometimes gets the wrong part of the animal, is no reason to abandon them.
Besides, sometimes you can get horse burgers.
Or update a classic story.
I think the cards are cute. *sniffs*
Just a little too obvious, Bacon. Now if you were to invite us over for an eclipse party….
I’ll be driving northeast to try to get a better view in Wyoming.
I hope you’re already at your eclipse party location
Pretty much. But if Bacon is hosting a party and mixing special eclipse viewing cocktails, well, we could be persuaded.
You all are welcome in my neck of the woods.
The only surprising aspect of the case is that it is not Glibertarians.com that is targeted.
The fuck are we doing wrong? First the Family Friendly thing, now this. We need to start a weekly Videodrome or something.
Thanks for the information SP, I appreciate the inside look the founders are willing to give.
It may be my memory playing tricks on me, but this commentariat does seem more civilized than TOS use to be.
Yeah? Well, fuck you!
*drops gloves*
“Putting on the foil, coach.”
What’s all this?
*adjust monocle*
Just a little old time hockey!
I say, that’s not cricket.
We have not had stupid arguments that are entirely ad homs.
No trolls helps that. It’s also nice that an argument isn’t made invalid by some typo or grammar error.
Squirrels increase hostility. This is a squirrel free, family friendly site.
I think the cat-butting helps as well.
We didn’t even re-fight the Civil War on John’s post the other day.
I was going to, but by the time I got my musket loaded, everyone had gone home.
Well there’s obviously significantly less trolling, but I think the entire discussion around Trump at TOS got really retarded really quickly, and it kind of obliterated the ability to have a decent conversation about it.
I think for the most part, the criticism and support of Trump here have been rational. I don’t mind having discussions and disagreements as long as people are civil.
Aww *kicks pebble*
There’s the door, bub.
*jerks thumb*
The “Clinton’s wrong within normal parameters” crowd really, really soured me on Reason. I’m not a particular Trump supporter, but I’m not horrified by the fact that the man is a boor who frequently speaks without thinking. So far, he hasn’t proposed anything that would have been out of place during the Clinton era. In fact, he’s more of an old-school Democrat than a Republican, IMHO. But because he doesn’t couch his positions in polished, PC language, there’s a certain segment of the population who will automatically revile him.
I get that, and that’s fine. It doesn’t surprise me that the general electorate shoots from the hip most of the time. But it really, really got to me that people claiming to subscribe to a political ideology based around logic and reason (drink!) and deeply skeptical of the state were so quick to condemn Trump for being about fifteen years outdated in terms of mainstream political beliefs.
Yeah, apparently fifteen years is an unconscionable gap now. Meanwhile, considering that just about everything that should be illegal was illegal by 1912, I’ve always been receptive to Peter McWilliams’ suggestion of repealing all laws made after that year.
So far, he hasn’t proposed anything that would have been out of place during the Clinton era.
That’s fine reason to revile him.
No doubt, but if anybody is “wrong within normal parameters”, it’s him. People who voted for Bill Clinton are losing their minds over a guy who isn’t that far removed.
I don’t have a link because I’ve already had my full dose of derp today and I’m not going back to get it. But over at DU, there was one lone prog today asking that people also denounce antifa as a violent hate group. None of them would do it, not one, in fact some of them said that antifa are heroes.
That one prog’s the hero. I like to think that there are more people who are like that if you get them away from a keyboard and an echo chamber than not.
He’s just one of the few slightly self aware ones who realizes that their recent behavior is going to lose more elections.
Hey! I learned something SFW today!
Thanks, SP!
I’m just over here being helpful and Family Friendly and all. (Just don’t ask which family.)
Look, I’ve said good things about Trump, and I’ve even tried to indulge the pretense that If Only Trump Knew What Sessions Was Doing…
But no more.
In this particular context, and with relation to this particular issue, fuck Donald Trump. Fuck you, you New York City values-having Democrat in drag, fuck you right up the ass with your wife’s dildo, you cocksucker.
…not to mention adulterer, rent-control-sympathertic cuck (as long as it doesn’t affect your high-end apartment rentals), and highway-robber (via Sessions whom you appointed).
…about 95% of my posts have been sympathetic to you, but the other 5% are to remind the reader that you’re a political hermaphrodite, an enemy of marriage on the personal and political level, someone who is only tolerable in comparison to Democrats and squishy Republicans, which is like if you ran int he Special Olympics and won because everyone else is a retard, so fuck you and your racist housing having father (who for the sake of charity I will assume was actually your father) and fuck the political establishment for making you look good in comparison to them.
give ’em both barrels!
I had to double check several times to make sure that was Eddie. He must be really pissed. He usually leaves the expletives to me.
I have never seen you curse before Eddie
You know it’s serious when he breaks out the H word.
I was over at Ace of Spades HQ (a conservative blog, and I site I used to frequent before I wised up, that used to have a bit of a libertarian slant) yesterday and they were discussing this subpoena. The comments convinced me that it isn’t just the left that have lost their damn minds. The lemmings rush of trust our Top Men and don’t think about the predictable consequences was really disappointing to see.
AoS is among the most frustrating sites on the Webz. So many times they get tantalizingly close to getting it only to veer back into retardation.
Their weekend columns on pets, books, food and gardening are excellent, though.
So, I want to share something a liberal (well, now ex-friend after this) just said to me after I said Nazis had the right to free speech and anti-fa is bad.
Holy shit. That is a person with absolutely no self-awareness.
No I bet he was the first person demanding Obama use the phrase “radical islam”. They’re consistent like that.
Someone who would throw out some bullshit like this was never your friend in the first place.
Wow. What an intellect that one has. He/she can read minds!
“you can shout to the rooftops that you’re not in the middle, and that you are wholly against the Nazis (and I do believe that you believe this)”
Yeah, but this guy believes you’re not and he knows best. Ex-friend sounds like a good decision. I would really tell someone to go fuck their self if they said that to me.
Never was a friend if it’s like that.
“I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You’re wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.”
You are either with us or against us
And if you’re only mostly with us, you’re still against us.
Serious question: Do they do any kind of a referral program? I’m on GoDaddy right now (hey, I’ve never had a problem with them and for the nine people who look at my website annually it’s fine) but I’m thinking about seeing what else is available. I like that Dreamhost is one of the good guys, and there’s nothing compelling about GoDaddy that makes me especially loyal. If I do switch and I can get y’all some account credit or something, I’d like to.
I’ve used Hostgator a lot. The support is top notch if you ever have an issue, they are very fast and thorough in response. Good pricing, never had an issue wit them. I wouldn’t host anything at GoDaddy, they pretty much suck.
GoDaddy is actively deleting – with no notice – websites they host that they find “offensive.” Friends have never let friends use GoDaddy for anything.
Yes, DH does have an affiliate program. Sign up using this link and we will get a kickback that goes toward our server bill.
Thanks for asking. You have received a coveted “Get Out of Cat Butt Free” card!
*gasp*
Thanks!
This is gonna be like when I win a scratch-off and never cash it in because I want to keep it to remember the time I won a scratch-off…
Have they deleted websites other than the Daily Stormer?
*jealous*
Sweet, picked up a VPS and signed up for the cloud server.
This is awesome! I also have been using Dreamhost for a little over a decade, running several domains. I’ve been very happy with them as a business the whole time.
Thank you for the excellent and informative piece, SP. 🙂 Found a new principled Twitter-person to follow. Pretty decent day