I can’t figure the Astros out. Apparently the D-backs could yesterday since they blanked them. The Yankees beat the MLB’s proverbial “retarded kid in a wheelchair” for the fourth time in a row. They should be so proud. The Indians and the Twins split a double-bill. The Nationals won. The Rockies lost. The Cards won. Team Canada won. And the Cubs lost to THE BIG RED MACHINE by a field goal.
In da preseason foosball, Philly, Tampa Bay and the Baltimore Ravens all won. Nobody was impressed. And in the Little League World Series…nobody cared what happened because they’re little kids and one kid with a big bat or a really sweet fastball makes the game boring anyway. And college football is a mere 8 days away. Let’s hope no more Gators players decide to do something stupid between now and then or else TTUN will win by forfeit. ::shrug:: Maybe they can call App State up and get a game. I see their schedule is open next week.
Well it looks like we all made it through another week. Congratulations. Unfortunately, next week will be more of the same autistic screeching and impotent rage from our media, our political parties (and not just the two major ones, but apparently the LP chief too) and the two sides in this imbecilic fight of of one-upmanship (I’m looking at you, white nationalists and anti-fa). But until then, let’s enjoy…the links!
News you can use! Well, only if you’re an Apple user. Which, let’s face it, you ought to be. ::slaps Android across the face with white glove::
If you don’t have anything nice to say…then don’t call for the President to be assassinated. That’s what my mom always said. No, wait. She never needed to. You know why? Because I’m not totally fucking insane enough to get elected to office and then start calling for the president to be assassinated. But its cool. She spent the day doubling down on twitter. You know, because she’s insane.
We finally have foreign officials calling for the US to look into potential collusion from the 2016 presidential election. Although I don’t think its what the left expected. And I doubt it’ll pierce the impenetrable wall of endless Trumpnazihitler coverage the media are engaging in anyway. Because if they couldn’t even get around to dedicating more than 1/10 the coverage of the Barcelona terrorist attack that killed 14 and left over 100 people injured, this isn’t even gonna register on the rated.
The Trump Department of Justice completely shits the bed. There is no clever headline or quip. This is pathetic. And we need a new system where goons of the state can be put on trial and not have people on their side prosecuting them. Independent prosecutors made of up of public defenders or perhaps voluntary prosecutors made up of people in the broader legal profession are more suitable alternatives than what happened in this case (or in the myriad police brutality cases that go under-prosecuted or untouched by what are in essence coworkers of the offending officers). These torture victims deserve better. America deserves better.
Gaia prepares to strike back. Looks like even though you shitlords didn’t watch the Al Gore sequel, our weeping Mother Earth did. And she’s gonna take her vengeance on…the middle of the ocean if recent history is any indicator.
If you’re in Boston this weekend and want to exercise your First Amendment right, then you must give up your Second Amendment right. Also, you can’t ride a bike. Or drink a soda. Or even take your dog for a walk. I shit you not.
Remember how people laughed when they said tearing down monuments was about the leaders and it wasn’t like they were gonna start going into cemeteries and tearing things down? Yeah, they were full of shit then too. Slippery slope, people. Slippery slope. And we’re about to go on a wild ride down this one, because I fear we’re reached the tipping point.
Although maybe its not too late. Somebody is saying “we’re not gonna participate in this retarded whitewash”.
I feel good that I maintained the theme for a whole week.
Have a great weekend, friends.
Yeah boyee!
First!
enjoy your SS probe.
The secret service employs aliens?
The Roswell greys cut a deal to avoid deportation.
Is that why bureaucrats have so much trouble looking human, they aren’t?!
Roswell. mmmmm…teenage Katherine Heigl
My Father the Space Alien
Not far off when it comes to Gerard Depardieu.
Obviously he meant the Nazi SS. They are there to protect Trump
utinhitler after all.They have their own anal probe brand? Huh, I didn’t know that.
The Ernst “Roamer”.
*applauds, while narrowing gaze.*
Harder than it looks, eh?
*chews gum, starts to walk, trips*
Charlottesville calls to mind if the SS and the Soviet Political Commissars all got together and fought, leaving the Wehrmacht and the normal Soviet line troops at home.
My wife mentioned that idiot last night. I told her the Secrete Service would have fun with that one. They must love it when someone relatively famous or important screws up and then they get to fuck with them.
Secrete Service
I can see them discharging officers to Missouri right now.
For parties with hookers and blow? Or was that only the thang during the Obama tenure?
Paging Swiss …
*very slow clap*
Just emitted a hearty laugh at this
– Any athletic equipment or other item that could be used as a weapon
Bats with Chi Sox logo are fine.
No fists or work boots then?
Or other item
“Well, there’s your open warrant, boys. Go nuts.”
-Precinct Captain at roll call tomorrow morning
*narrows gaze*
That could also be construed as “any athletic equipment” is taboo, not just if it could be used as a weapon. So no swimsuits or tennis balls or compression pants or sports bras.
But strangely, they’ll allow Cleveland Browns jerseys.
Not 100% sure those count as actual sports equipment…
Sports bras ARE a weapon.
rarglybargle. meant to add this
The Beverley Hillbillies, best sitcom ever or best show ever? It is a really tough call.
To be fair, I probably shouldn’t be allowed in public in my cycling gear.
It really shows off how tiny you are.
Only if they’re all worn at once with the tennis balls stuffed down the front.
– Flag poles, bats, clubs, sticks (including signs attached to sticks)
Boston Strong, my fucking ass. These pussy-ass cops are afraid of letting people carry signs? That’s a first amendment right.
But after the Tsarnev manhunt, its apparent that they don’t give a fuck about rights in that town anymore.
I have to admit mixed feelings on this one. Boston cops are not going to let this turn into a fucking shit show like Cville. So letting people dressed for a lacrosse game is out.
I know I might get a strongly-worded letter from Wayne LaPierre for this, but I actually don’t have much of a problem with this, provided that the police strictly–and I mean strictly–enforce this policy with regard to the Antifa goons who will show up loaded for bear. In principle I agree that you should be able to exercise your rights to speech, assembly, and the bearing of arms of any kind all at the same time, but as a practical matter I think it’s legitimate for the authorities to curtail the latter of those rights in a limited way when the parties involved are belligerent knuckleheads who’ve expressed a desire for violence and have proven themselves willing and able to become violent in the past.
Really, the alt-right should love this. The Antifa strategy is to goad these guys into a reaction, so if both sides are disarmed and on lock down, the alt-right guys can remain peaceful and still save face. Besides, I honestly don’t want to think about what would happen in this country if we have another Charlottesville so soon.
What country wouldn’t want to influence the US Presidential election? If you could help get a particular candidate elected to the most powerful country in the world, you would be doing your own country a disservice by not doing it.
Hey, that’s probably the same reason our government tries to influence foreign elections all the time. It lets countries know they’ll go to the back of the queue if they vote the wrong way.
Active Atlantic hurricane seasons come and go but hopefully most stays away from land.
We’re in trouble if those hurricanes get to your place.
How Message-Board Culture Remade the Left
https://jacobitemag.com/2017/08/12/how-message-board-culture-remade-the-left/
That was an interesting article. It took a rather long detour into the depths of depravity of some of the more popular leftist forums that have produced journalists/opinionators for the respectable press, but like watching a trainwreck I couldn’t look away. IMO, the most colorful description of one of these forums:
If these people have had as much influence as that article author contends, it would explain some things about the recent insanity in the press and activist spheres.
I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that much of the drama (especially that involving fraud) in EVE Online is the result of the Goons.
It’s not exactly ironic that the people that know about the Terrible Secret of Space caused EVE drama.
Toxic masculinity the common thread in American hate
“growing violence in the language directed at women and minority groups online;” – not more than towards men most surveys show
“Violence against women is a frequent common charachertisic amongst perpetrators of extreme violence” – sometimes, but it is expected these dweebs go after those they percieve as phisicaly weaker then them. also charachertisic seems misspelled
“young men were being empowered and radicalised by pockets of anti-everything-but-them hate online;” I wouldn’t call online empowering
Castration for some, miniature Soviet flags for others.
young men were being empowered and radicalised by pockets of anti-everything-but-them hate online
Yeah the amount of material online of young men’s problems being blamed on everyone but them just totally eclipses the amount of material calling them the spawn of Satan.
Do people like Una Mullally just have this copy preprepped like some kind of social justice Mad-Lib to push their narrative onto any story that breaks?
“Look at me! Look at me! Nazis are bad, BUT THE MISOGYNY!”
Wait, hold on, let me get this straight. The “Nazis” were marching with tiki torches and trying to be taking seriously? Should have just mocked them and laughed at them.
But, but, Antifa needed a villain!
Antifa is the villain…
I know that.
You know that.
Antifa can’t admit that.
Not only Antifa, but pretty much the whole left can’t admit Antifa is a villain. If the Great Nazi Threat is nothing but a few inbreds walking around with tiki torches and Antifa is a gang beating people up for any wrongthink (remember these guys were threatening to attack a parade for featuring normal, suburban Rotary Club Republicans in Portland), people might start thinking that Donald Trump isn’t a threat to the very survival of the republic who must be stopped at any cost.
Yep. Apparently Virginia has an old anti-Klan law on the books that bans marching with actual torches, and tiki torches are considered candles legally.
Ah yes. I remember during the campaign all the hate towards Hillary was because they didn’t want a woman president. None of the complaints had anything to do with massive corruption and a terrible record in office. Nope, it was all “WE DON’T WANT A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE!”
But don’t you see, if it was a man nobody would care…
Didn’t some feminist recently come out and say that left-wing men are the worst misogynists?
They’d be right. Nothing worse than dealing with an asshole that insists he’s feminist. If you point out how he is acting like an asshole (talking over someone at a meeting, taking credit for ideas at meetings – as in a woman says it, he ignores, then “comes up” with a brilliant idea – what the woman said. Yes, these things do happen in meetings, more rarely today than in the 90s, but they do still happen), then he insists he’s a feminist and that therefore, you stupid woman, you are wrong. Every last man I have ever met that insisted he is feminist has been a misogynistic asshole. Men who don’t insist on that label have very rarely been a problem.
And heh, remember this https://mic.com/articles/154124/women-in-the-white-house-are-working-together-to-amplify-each-other-s-voices#.vtVtUspae. The only way women in the Obama administration could get him to listen was by “amplifying”. (Also if you read his memoirs, total dick to his wife.) But, I’m supposed to believe that Democrats are better for women. Fuck that.
“Also if you read his memoirs, total dick to his wife.) ”
Um, you mean she didn’t want all his dick?
There was a men’s rights movement in the 70s?
There didn’t need to be one, people still had rights, even men.
It could be that they are just completely entitled assholes, and some women get caught up as targets in their overall hatred.
I have a question for the fitness-informed.
With regards to beginning weight training, what is a reasonable expectation for when I would need to increase the amount of weight used? I’m trying to temper my expectations, but also don’t want to miss signs that I’m doing something wrong (such as not making progress).
Going for bulk or tone?
I’m still in the “trying to stop being a fat weakling” stage.
So I should be aiming for muscle mass right now.
3 sets of ten for most lifts and when you make it, up the weight a little next time. Just write down your progress: How much and how many reps. Warty is right, though. Squats and deadlifts. Don’t forget: Curls are for girls.
I think you should be aiming for strength …
At this point – that’s the same thing.
/fat bastard.
Have you tried creatine? It works.
Just don’t drink a lot of booze with creatine.
wait why? I drink booze a lot. And I take creatine daily.
Just increases the chances of hangovers, unless you increase your water intake.
Interesting. I haven’t noticed any particular hangover effects, but I do drink a ton of water even when boozing it up.
Read that somewhere and experienced it myself – I usually don’t drink enough water when I’m hitting the bottle.
Shit. I’ve been mixing it with my Vodka.
No one should go for tone
Oh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=387ZDGSKVS
This video does not exist.
YouTube is censoring Switzy!
Damn…it was Tone Loc – “Wild Thing”… so just mull that one over, eh?
I don’t have a choice. Detached retina 5 years ago means I can’t lift anything over 60 lbs without fear of another detachment.
I also don’t want to be a big bulky thing.
My left retina detached back in May (one of the many reasons my posting dropped off significantly). I’ve been taking it really easy with just body weight stuff.
During the novice phase you should try to add more weight each session. The Rippetoe master plan calls for adding 5lbs per lift per session for as long as you are able. It’s far more aggressive than most any other program, but my lifting cult (including the wife) all got pretty damn strong very quickly. If you fail at a weight repeat the same weight next session. If you fail 3 times in a row then deload and work back up.
Trying to get this in a spot that won’t get lost. My advise to someone starting out is to work with a certified trainer for a few sessions. They will be able to show you proper form, put together workouts, and give you an idea of how to progress. The key is to not hurt yourself, and not worry about the actual weight your pulling when you begin.
Some of the plans I used are based on (rough) percentages of your Max weight for one rep. ie – let’s say (for math ease) your max bench press is 200 pounds. One of the exercise plans I use will say something like 60% max, 8-10 times. So 120 pounds 8-10 times.
Or more simply – those last one or two bench presses should be difficult since your muscles will be tired out by then. If you can easily pass beyond that, it’s time to increase the weight.
I did some serious damage to my inner shoulder doing bench about 15 years ago. I don’t touch it anymore. Maybe it was just bad luck, but I’ve heard other guys say the same thing.
I’ve fucked up my elbow tendons in the past doing heavy curls, so I had to modify my workout. Never had shoulder problems from benching, though.
Chin ups are superior to curls, anyway.
*Slight humble brag* but I was a pitcher back in school and pretty sure that had a lot to do with it.
Yeah I like to curl using an ez-bar. Heck sometimes I switch to heavy bands for something different.
I’ve been benching off and on for some twenty years – no injury yet. But I don’t consider myself a powerlifter. Nor am I super huge. I use weightlifting as a stress burner more than anything else.
Depends on the program. At first you should focus on doing the exercise correctly even if weight is low. Once you do them correctly increase whenever possible. For example you can say I want to do 3 sets of 6. If you can do 3 sets of 6 increase the weight until you can do 6 5 4. Then keep the weight until its 6 6 6 and increase again.
Or you can got he starting strength rout and increase a small amount each training. Depends on what you are doing really.
At first you should make good progress because its not just muscle growth but your nervous system getting used to directing your muscles to lift. So I am a beginer and didnt increase weight a month is usually something wrong.
How are you splitting the workouts?
Right now it’s monday wednesday and friday when I get home from work – and I’m probably not doing enough per workout. (in my defense I only got the cage set up monday and haven’t ironed out all the details)
If you are doing a different major exercise each of those days (squat, bench, deadlift), then I would increase weight each session for awhile. At the beginning this is easy to do. After awhile you won’t be able to and you can increase based on reps, i.e once you can do two sets of 6, increase the final set and do as many as you can. Next session start at that higher weight and work until you can do two sets of 6 again.
Did you decide to try one of the programs?
I don’t know how to answer your question so the answer is probably not.
Since I don’t currently own a suitable bench, I’m debating if it’s even possible to safely bench press from a floor. I haven’t tried it, since it’s one of those “it could end very badly” ideas.
Take Mr. A Fuggin White Male up on his offer.
Do pushups from your knees to start. They try to get a complete one in. If you can’t do one from your toes, get into the full pushup position and hold yourself for 30 seconds. Keep working it, it will eventually come.
Well, Gilmore! This was to go down below.
Thanks for the advice, Gilmore 😉
Until you get some strength built up you don’t need a bench, push ups will work the muscles you will later use in bench pressing. N matter what you do, Do not start out to ambitious, you’ll fail, hurt yourself, and quit.
if you are starting from “fat weakling” you will make progress at an amazing speed, so do not let the unimpressive first workouts depress you. I ballooned up to 320 lbs in 2013,and when I got serious about fixing it, my first workout was a slow walk around the block, my second workout (the next day) was a slow walk around the block with multiple rest stops to try and stretch out shin splints. I now have maintained my weight between 170-175 for the past six months and row an average of 180 kilometers a week (Concept 2 machine). Your body wants to be fit, and will put on muscle, gain strength and endurance very fast at first.
tl:dr start slow, increase a little every workout, if you fail one day drop back a bit and try again.
*sheepsishly looks around*
I can’t do a pushup yet. I was planning on using the bench press to work up to being able to get my body weight off the floor with just my arms.
use your knees instead of your feet and work your way up. if that’s still too hard, you can put your hands on something elevated like a chair or a bench and start from there.
Wholeheartedly agree about the wonders of push-ups. I shipped off to basic training able to do 5 push-ups. I worked up to the minimum 13 needed to leave Reception Battalion and enter a training battery. By the time I hit AIT, I was doing 75 push-ups in the 2 minute PT test.
Going on 55 and still can crank out 50 push ups in under a minute.. My kid, and all of his buddies trying to show off for the young chicks, hate me 🙂
In the good old days I did over 90 in the allotted 2 mins. Getting old sucks.
Start with as little weight as possible to learn the movements and to just get familiar with the equipment.
You’ll see gains pretty quick.
I started with one of those cheap sand weight sets that my co-worker was getting rid of. Sure I was only benching 120 pounds back then, but even then I started seeing some gains. It also stopped me doing something really stupid.
Double the load every other day
How many grains of rice is that after 64 days?
Somewhere north of 4 billion, no biggie
Well… I’m not going to list my bona fides here… but I’ve done my fair amount of elite level training with elite level trainers… like actual olympians…, feel free to reach out to me privately and I’ll fill you in on them. I’d be more than happy to tailor a workout plan for you.
And if not, I’ll just give you the most important rule: Form is more important than reps or weight. If you lose your form on a rep because of fatigue, then it means you’re done for that set.
My main constraints on planning this out come down to – a lack of discretionary funds available for hardware (see my gripe about the price of weights yesterday); and I have no fucking clue what I’m doing.
I highly recommend joining some sort of gym or fitness center.
If not, I’ll give you a list of essential equipment for my plan, and you can price it out on craigslist if you’d like.
Exactly what I thought. Get someone to show you how to do it correctly. There actually is a reason there a mirrors in the gym.
Also, look for the older guys (30s, 40s) with bulkier builds that are squatting or deadlifting. Because if they’re in their 30s or 40s, and they’re squatting/deadlifting chances are, they probably have some sort of background competitively lifting and playing sports. Ask them for spots when you need them, and for tips. They’re generally people who are more approachable and willing to help. Stay away from the 20-something dude-bro meatheads and frat guys.
Stay away from the 20-something dude-bro meatheads and frat guys.
You mean Johnny Half-Rep?
Plus it would be fun to see UnCiv wandering around, looking at middle age guys lifting.
THIS. THIS. THIS. Listen to this man.
Welp, I’m screwed.
I have no way of knowing if I’m doing anything wrong.
Download the StrongLifts app and go from there. It’s easy to follow and comes with plenty of videos on form so you don’t break your back or tear your rotator cuff. And also don’t listen to anything Warty says.
Most exercises are pretty easy – watch videos on youtube if you need a better understanding of the form or method. Ripptoe, for example, has some videos out there too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhVC_AnZYYM
This – watch the Rippetoe video. Do the exercise at a relatively light weight, see if it feels right and looks right in the mirror. Then and on the weight. I move up when I can do a set of 5.
Do the big 5 – Squat, deadlift, bench-press, overhead press, power-clean. Rip has a video for each.
I’m trying to square this with the every explicit “Don’t use a mirror” warning from Mr. Rippetoe’s book.
I never understood that. For squats and overhead press I look in the mirror just to make sure the barbell is parallel to the floor and I’m not all crooked,
Mirrors are bad. I lifted for years using mirrors before I discovered the one true lifting gospel of Rippetoe. I had trained myself to respond to visual cues that were imperfect and I was doing a lot wrong. I fixed my form and started lifting without mirrors and my strength exploded upwards and I learned how to feel the proper cues. I can’t imagine going back. I strongly advise people to try and learn how to lift without mirrors.
If you need visual feedback then record your lifts and look at them after the set is over.
Get some workout DVDs and install a few mirrors where you workout. Whoever’s doing the workout DVD will be showing you correct form for the various exercises and you can check how you compare with the mirrors.
I’m drawing a blank on how to get a private message to you. (Unless there’s a feature in this site I’m unfamiliar with)
If you have an email you don’t mind posting here, I can reach out to you if you’d like.
breadandwater @ gruel.com
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emailed
I won’t be able to answer from work, so it will be a bit before you get a reply.
Every session.
Dont listen to this guy he got a hernia lifting
*goes on Eddie-style tantrum for dozens of comments and thousands of words*
*narrows gaze*
I’m a pro at beginning weight training. I’m absolute crap at keeping it up. That said, I have found a very good program, at least for me, that eases me back into lifting weights.
I choose a weight that I can do 3 sets of 8 reps, with the last couple of reps in the final set a bit difficult, but do-able. Next session I go up to 3 sets of 9. Then 10, 11, and 12. If at any step along that path I can’t complete the full amount of reps in any of the sets, I re-do that amount in my next session. Once I hit 12 reps, I up the weight and drop back down to sets of 8. Wash, rinse, repeat. The amount of weight I go up depends on the exercise – leg exercises could go up by 20 pounds, while some of the more isolating exercises may only go up 5 pounds. Following this plan I was able to move consistently, but slowly, up in weight.
OK, let’s see here.
Squat > Deadlift > (Clean and) Press > Chinups > Bench > other shit
Low-bar squats are marginally better than the normal high-bar version because of the mechanics of the thing, but don’t fool yourself into thinking that it matters that much. Front squats are fun.
Sets of 5, warmups + 3 work sets.
Train 3x a week. Squat, do some kind of press, and some kind of pull. At the beginning, squat and deadlift every time and alternate pressing and benching. After you can’t recover from all that deadlifting anymore, do chinups instead. Add weight to those when you become good at them.
Increase weight every session for as long as you can. Adaptation is a logarithmic function.
Mirrors: not even once.
Videoing yourself: every time until you’re good at the movements.
Curls are awesome, especially if you do them with a barbell, especially if you do them with a fat bar.
Be prepared to spend at least 5 years getting where you want to go.
Chicks dig huge forearms and backs.
Ignore Captain Halfrep. College football brahs are the worst offenders.
Don’t be Billy Badass. Just because you see some dude casually deadlifting 6 and a half plates doesn’t give you license to be a moron and hurt yourself. It took most of us half a lifetime or more to get there.
I also like kettlebell shit, swings and snatches and whatnot. But that’s mostly for fun and just to get some extra back volume.
“We served our country at a time when freedom and safety hung in the balance.”
Then promptly jumped onto the wrong end of the scale.
“We will reinstall a proper marker with their names but one that does not speak of the Civil War as an act of heroics by the Confederate insurrection”
“Here lieth Lt. Jeb Abernathy — piss on him to your heart’s content.”
Valiant: possessing or showing courage or determination.
So they’re redefining valiant ? Because those guys met the definition even if they were on the wrong side.
And these are private monuments in a cemetery in a Yankee state. I wonder if Ed Gein’s headstone says anything nice about him? If so, why not remove that to? (Oh wait) Or Jeffery Dahmer’s? (You know 2 of the most famous serial killers both from Wisconsin) Or what about Senator McCarthy? Lots of people don’t like what he did either.
I know everyone’s sick of this stuff but here’s a link to a good Charlottesville analysis on the Tom Woods Show. It’s actually fair and reasonable.
http://tomwoods.com/ep-978-charlottesville-once-more-left-anarchist-keith-preston-discusses/#disqus_thread
I thought Six Flags meant more fun?
I thought the only Six Flags horror was the old man mascot.
More flags! More fun!
This is the Fun with Flags I thought of.
Looks like there’s some contradictory information on this one: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/arlington/article167953237.html
Flying 6 American Flags for the time being seems reasonable… Would be sad to see them make this permanent though. They’re a private enterprise so they can do what they want I suppose.
Further note, Six Flags doesn’t actually fly the “Stars and Bars” battle flag (which has become more associated with white supremacists), but instead flies the original official flag of the Confederate States of America, which A) probably can’t even be identified by most people–surely even less so the average Leftist–and B) fits better with the original historical theme of the park (flags of nations that controlled Texas at one time or another). Removing this flag permanently would be a silly and sad capitulation for the company, IMO.
The concept is that Texas itself has existed under six different flags. Literally, it’s Six Flags Over Texas. It’s a celebration? of history.
::slaps Android across the face with white glove::
*takes glove and throws to ground*
As the challenged, I select weapons. 105mm howitzers, at dawn, sirrah!
::puts down squirt gun::
Ok.
Say….you, um, got any ammo for these?
…
Damn.
*wanders off*
Walk 20000 paces turn and fire
So is the option here that you aren’t required to use TouchID? Because if so, Android already has that. You just set up a password and don’t set up the fingerprint scanner. Not sure what I’m missing here.
It’s just Apple adding in a feature that’s long existed and pretending to be innovative.
Yeah, I don’t really get why this is so groovy. Get back to me when you can enable a self-destruct sequence.
You can use Touch ID but quickly disable it when needed.
So you have the functionality, but can disable it without having to go through settings.
I’m still not sure what constitutional principle says that the cops can’t make you unlock with a passcode, but they can make you unlock with a fingerprint. Other than FYTW of course.
You can do it on-the-fly like when the cops are right there.
Blackberry Master Race checking in here
respect
A blackberry? You use a blackberry?
*points and laughs*
Blackberry Priv… powerful device… Love it… love having the classic keyboard slide out when I need to type something longer as well.
Its the Android OS on the Blackberry Server, ro something like that. It’s supposed to be very secure. At least that’s what they say.
I’m the guy who’s trying to figure out why I own a smartphone. (Not counting employer-issued devices)
Lady Gaga & the Problem(s) with ‘Non-Racist’ White People
Lol and if you don’t ask the black community you perpetuate racism. I though whitey should shut up and listen.
I thought Antifa was declaring that white silence was violence? Now I dont know what to do.
Yep. Do THAT. Should work perfectly.
LOL
These shitheads don’t want any resolutions, they just want attention and Gaga just loaned them some of hers by presenting them with an opportunity to bitch.
It’s convenient not being racist dovetails so neatly with embracing leftist ideology.
We are never satisfied.
Notice she capitalized Black Community but not White Community?
Since they’re such a shitbag company full of SJWs, I get worked up that “Google” is synonymous with “the internet”. It’s enough to make me cry. But I grab a Kleenex and then realize it doesn’t matter.
Take an Aspirin, pull your Rollerblades out of their Styrofoam and Bubble Wrap, or just hit the Jacuzzi for awhile.
Made me think of “I will not bow to any sponsor.”
https://youtu.be/KjB6r-HDDI0
poems
Easy to follow instructions there.
And if she had said she would research what to do, she would have been silencing black voices by not being able to engage them.
The only way to win is not to play. Just sit back and watch them eat themselves.
My response?
FUCK EVERYONE ELSE — I’M IN THIS WORLD FOR ONLY MYSELF.
Happy now?
And yet, she didn’t get a response to her question ‘what should I do?’
“Look it up on the internet, it’s been out there for decades”? Really?
Maybe you just don’t have an answer because there really isn’t one to help these ‘oppressed’ folks short of white folks going away after giving them all our money and political positions.
My father attempting to console my wife on the recent death of her father.
“Don’t worry, you’ll get over it.”
Well…technically correct is the best kind of correct….?
The funny part is that is my father trying to be sympathetic.
My childhood was interesting.
I’m reminded of the scene from The Simpsons where Homer tells Bart, “Here, let me wipe those tears away”, and takes out the blow dryer.
The Simpsons
You mean that show run by shitlords that refused to hire a woman writer because the showrunner hated women and everybody at Fox went along because they care more about having a men’s club than the best writing staff they can assemble? That Simpsons?
-purple-haired, middle-aged woman
The scene I was thinking of was from the first season.
Leela?
That’s not even Homer’s funniest attempt at consoling his children. That would be the episode Bleeding Gums Murphy dies and he tells Lisa they can just go down to the pet store and find her a new Jazz-man–just like her cat Snowball.
That show has gone downhill.
I’ve Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe’s Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling.
Didn’t we discuss this one several weeks ago? The article sounds familiar.
Yes, we did.
Considering the stories I have heard from those who went there, it really isn’t that shocking.
There were some truly honorable and honest folks – ones I would have died to protect. But there was a pervasive mindset of “if you ain’t in my immediate bunch – anything I can get away with without violence in return is permissible”. 30+ years of war and civil war had pretty much eroded civil society.
I am not sure that civil society has ever existed in that part of the world, where the rule of the strong and supremacy of your clan has been the defacto MO for millennia…
They were getting there in the 1960s.
I know we have been told that, but I spent time in the ME back in the late 70s, and granted, I was a kid then and could be wrong, but things were not as great as people tended to say they were. In that part of the world the strong horse, and the clan, always rule.
It didn’t.
Letting in hordes of young men with a 7th Century mentality wasn’t the best idea it seems.
Man, who could have seen that coming? Talk about a shock.
This is why Trump, is wrong to restrict entry by “refugees”…oh, wait..
Stood out to me along with everything else.
That’s one hell of an article.
Ah yes. All the other crimes committed by the “refugees” were tolerable, but when the crimes are done against women? Then it suddenly crosses the line.
A ,a href =”https://seat14c.com/future_ideas/37D”>horror story that people at SSC are using as a moral exemplar. Proving once again that are some levels of stupidity that only be achieved by the very smart.
not as horrifying as a mangled link:
https://seat14c.com/future_ideas/37D
Damn your nimble fingers!
Still doesn’t work, brah.
For realsies? It works when I click it. *Suspects a trick*
OK, it works now. It might have been a service interruption on my end.
I thought you might be distracting from your competitors.
BTW, any theories why all of these Rationalists are also writers?
Cool link, bro.
did Al Gore write that fiction?
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/898336170395881472
The ACLU begins to sell out on free speech (this was to be expected). They say that they will no longer defend “hate groups” that carry arms at their demonstrations. Cosmos hardest hit or…emboldened
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/08/16/odd-statement-from-the-aclu-of-california-white-supremacist-violence-is-not-free-speech/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_term=.2c4f6c0605f2
Eugene Volokh has more. ACLU is seeking to distance itself from defending the free speech rights of White Supremacists. Volokh calls this development “disturbing”. Expect virtue signaling to follow
Seems to go along with their usual disdain of the 2nd. Still disappointing.
The Volokh article goes beyond that and concerns the California chapters of the ACLU that say they will not defend ‘white supremacists’ that ‘incite violence’. It is very vague, perhaps purposely.
They say that they will no longer defend “hate groups” that carry arms at their demonstrations.
Amputees only.
true
*strongly narrows gaze*
YES! A strongly. Bookmarked.
1,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
So for once The Onion got it wrong?
As people here (or maybe it was at TOS) have said, state chapters of the ACLU act somewhat independently. The
Virginia chapter stayed strong.
The president’s latest tweets might seem controversial, but post-C’ville @maristpoll shows Americans agree with him
Do you think statues honoring leaders of the Confederacy should:
62% – Remain as a historic symbol
27% – Be removed because they are offensive to some people
11% – Unsure
Hey, I finally made the 1%!
Which 1%?
I’m unsure.
The 1% that has a speck on their monitor that makes 11% look like 1.1%
See, I just add percentages up when I see poll results.
(Of course, I’m also nuts enough to calculate what day of the week a date in the past is when it’s used in a movie and claimed to be a certain day of the week. And look to see how many stars are on the flags in old westerns.)
Was listening to an interview with Chris Cantwell on NPR this morning, no two ways about it, that dude is an asshole.
I’d like to congratulate antifa, the Charlottesville police, and the national media for giving him the biggest platform he’s ever had.
Fusionist here –
OK, folks, it’s been fun, and thank you for putting up with me for all this time.
Now I’m afraid I’ll have to move on in light of what looks like the SJWification, or Twitterification, of the glibertarians site.
If the other site is California, and glibertarians is Colorado, then some of those who took part in the hegira from the other site are beginning to act like California migrants to Colorado – beginning to institute the same SJW policies they originally fled.
Yesterday, I got into an argument with someone who, while not a leftist (I don’t want to defame him), was nevertheless attacking me from the left, and with some of the left’s techniques.
I replied from the “right,” and we both used harsh language – “fuck you scum” on his part and “lying liar who lies” on my part.
Sadly, the response from glibertarians staff was right out of the SJW/Twitter playbook: Admonishment of the guy who attacked me from the left, while in my case…even though I hadn’t (and haven’t) decided whether to offer an apology, they pre-emptively decided to tell me that an apology “won’t cut it.” So they retaliated against me by postponing, for a week, an article of mine which was scheduled for 11 AM today. Instead, they’re posting one of ZARDOZ’s commentaries in the time slot while moving my article to Saturday the 26th (prime viewing time). They didn’t reject the article mind you – it has none of the allegedly offensive elements of my posts – but they wanted to Teach Me A Lesson by delaying the article and showing that my *replies*
– in a different context than the article – to false an insulting accusations were worse than the accusations themselves.
And while Sloopy keeps indicating that we are all friends, it seems to me that it’s not the act of a friend to reject an apology, even in advance of my offering one.
Let me back up and give a little context:
In college, one of the student government types wrote a letter which, in a couple sentences, accused me of some made-up shit. I replied with a four-page, single-spaced letter pleading with everyone to be nice to me, flattering my accuser, and begging them not to be so mean. That approach didn’t work. Likewise on a different occasion, when some “friends” of the SJW persuation insulted me, and I ended up giving a grovelling apology for responding to the insult, and they cast the apology in my face.
So as a result my practice is, if someone tells me “fuck off scum,” I reply in kind, and I don’t mean kindly.
I might or might not be willing to apologize for that if the moderators insist, but for them to say in advance they will not accept an apology for my response, while giving a slap on the while the original aggressor, is purely out of SJW/Twitter practices.
Therefore, I have indicated that I no longer want my articles published on this site, with or without a delay, and I have changed my handle accordingly so that it will hopefully be more difficult for them to publish my articles over my protest.
I read the legal disclaimers, and I recognize the moderators’ right to publish my articles after I submit them, even if I object, but as any good libertarian will tell you, there’s a difference between having a legal right to being an asshole and actually exercising that right.
It was good to share my articles and discussion with you, it’s too bad about the SJW/Twitter tendencies of some of the moderators, whom I thought were my friends – but what friend rejects an apology?
It seems that in this instance “gay rights” is the gateway through with SJW-ishness is trying to pass. Who knows what issue will be next.
But there’s no point my hanging around.
Nice to know you guys.
I agree that the discussion was unproductive and badgering, but not a sufficient reason to leave. Everyone has bad days or misinterprets things that are written. Perhaps an agreement from both sides that such ‘conversations’ are counterproductive followed by an apology would be in order
I have let go my rage and forgiven (after some time, admittedly) the HIG, AQ, Taliban and Jaish al Mahdi for trying to kill me. Repeatedly. I am a flawed man – so, if I can do this, getting over a small thing like this should be child’s play.
Did you call the Taliban your friends?
I am supposed to LOVE my enemies, yes? Friend, no. Do I carry hatred in my heart – not anymore.
Friendship is when you say “I didn’t like those things you said, but you’ve done some good for this site with your articles, and you’re a friend, so I won’t do something retarded like reschedule a completely unrelated article of yours just to be spiteful.”
This is unproductive and unbecoming. I don’t mean to interfere, but I don’t want to live in a world where Fusionist articles are no longer published here
It is not spite, it is sending a message, and slight punishment. If you cannot see the difference….I cannot help you.
I am going to drop this now. I see I am being sucked into the beginning of a mire, and I have no desire for that today (or most any day).
I already made my offer below – restore the article to its 11 AM time slot, I apologize, I don’t talk to John Titor again, and everything is squared (plus I chance my handle back).
If you believe in forgiveness and don’t take this deal, good bye.
Even I’m getting annoyed now Eddie. Take a break and cool off.
Bye bye – you don’t set terms here.
I made a good faith offer. You rejected it – which is as much your right as it is my right to wash your dust off my feet. You just lost a contributor. You win your point, enjoy your triumph.
“Even I’m getting annoyed now Eddie. Take a break and cool off.”
Indeed, I’ll cool off, but not here.
Switzy, as a (very) long time lurker, I am somewhat in awe of the fact that you are the most prolific poster that I’ve never seen throw a bitch-fit.
Mebbe you just explained why.
Oh, I am perfectly capable of flipping out (I have hit the “trash” option more than once after typing something up) – but I usually catch myself. Sometimes a few beverages and looking at old photos of 2005-2009 helps put things back into perspective.
Funny you should say that. I have a B&W photo from OSW days on my desk at work to remind me that however I think it sucks, it’s not 120F or smelling like an open air sewage plant.
Maybe just cool off and come back in a week?
Whoa, what did I miss?
An evidently headed exchange yesterday that I didn’t read, so I can’t speak to specific details of.
It was a “wall of text” argument. I zipped past most of it.
https://glibertarians.com/2017/08/sex-gender-bit-of-both-neither
Oh, that. Yeah, I scrolled past that too. It’s hardly the first Fusionist and John Titor wall ‘o text I’ve seen here. I never read those.
The glib staff comment at the top of the article kind of creeps me out, not gonna lie. But, obviously, this is their site so they can do what they want.
*glares balefully, does nothing*
I heard you did that to all of northeastern Afghanistan once.
That was a *narrowed gaze*. I did all too much in that part of the world, however.
Ah. As for the comment at the top of the article re: Fusionist and John, I think its a weird place to put it… above such a great article that I thoroughly enjoyed. Plus I figured stuff like that would be handled privately. That’s why it creeps me out.
Not that I care that much in general, its just my 2 cents.
Hopefully my explanation will help reduce your baleful glare to a narrowed gaze.
It does, however make the Family Guy image even more apt.
Along those lines. What about Eddie’s speech was particularly worse than John’s that he was singled out to be chastised? Was it his argument in general?
I don’t really think either one of them were making particularly good arguments. It was a bitch fest. So what is the boundary that Eddie violated more than John?
I know that the staff doesn’t need to explain decisions to lowly commentators (its your site). I was just asking out of curiosity.
It was in the afternoon article from yesterday. You can’t miss it since it took up half of the comments
I missed it. Once there is back and forth longer than the screen between two posters, I cut bait.
This is hilarious, actually. All of it.
I get that Glibertarians is not the government, and there is no expectation of absolute free speech, but in all honesty about these comments and such … who gives a shit? Let people say what they want to say, and let others decide if they like it or not.
The power of ignoring someone you don’t like or agree with can be intoxicating as well.
whoah. I guess I missed this. WTF?
I’m sorry to hear this. I disagree with you on a whole helluva lot, but I think your viewpoint is an extremely valuable addition to the site. I hope you reconsider
I didn’t read the original argument, but this post from Fusionist pretty much torches the bridge, don’t you think?
Sure. But it’s the internet. Half of us are government spies, half of us are 12 year olds, and all of us are Tulpa. Burned bridges seems so much less final when they are virtual bridges.
Ahem, some of us are ‘Russian’ spies too, bigot
Double Agent Tulpa, 12 year old spy for the FIS and DHS?
My code name is ‘Lolita’
Hawt.
Frankly, the consensus of opinion is that it’s impossible… but we’ll certainly give it a go. After all, we mustn’t forget that we’ve wasted over a month through an unfortunate disagreement for which I was not to blame.
Wait, what disagreement are you referring to now? I’M SO CONFUSED. Dammit am I going to have to entirely abandon work productivity so I can read every thread around here? Fine fine. Sacrifices must be made.
Or you could just google Colonel Nicholson.
Eddie basically argued that the gays deserved what they got for having non-Catholic sex and then argued that the people who let the bathhouses stay open were worse than those pushing gays underground or further in the closet. And when he was called on it he went all drama queen.
The only good thing about his leaving is that there won’t be flooding in the weekend links with his usual hobby-horses.
That is a “terminological inexactitude” – the Speaker of the House of Commons permits such language, so I suppose it’s OK on this site.
That is a blatant misinterpretation. Neither side was making very coherent points
It was sort of interesting, at least. But the insults started happening. I was considered a call for peace, but I didn’t. Other people tried.
You didn’t make the call because of this, right?
And when he was called on it he went all drama queen.
I don’t think I should interfere, but I’m going to note something. The first person in that exchange to resort to ad hominem was John Titor. I don’t know the details of whether both parties were called out, but if Eddie is going to be punished, I’m assuming the same applies to John.
He wasn’t. Just slapped on the wrist.
For posterities sake, since the mod’s decided to memory-hole the conversation in question, I will point out that what Ted S. says here is a fucking lie. Eddie explicitly agreed that no one “deserved what they got.”
Please don’t leave, but it’s up to you.
It’s the internet, man.
It was a pleasure knowing you as well. While I hope you will return, even if you don’t, I wish you good fortune in your future endeavors.
Obviously I missed something. I’m sorry to see you go. I don’t always agree, but I appreciate your opinion and feel that constructive disagreement helps build arguments.
tl;dr lol
You want to stalk off in a huff, that is your right. You have been given a platform for your writings, and the ability to comment – you have not been banned or such. Maybe do a little less shite-stirring and flying off the handle? You want to accuse us of going SJW or whatnot, then you can join FS in that. Look at the company you will be keeping is all I can say.
Note – an apology ALONE isn’t going to cut it. Just don’t behave that way and we don’t care what you write, say or do.
Well said – I’ve gotten very angry at one or two commentators, but instead of going on about it, I just stopped posting for the rest of the day. As Slammer said, it’s just the internet. There’s no reason to take it too personally (like I should talk).
Back at TOS, I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle shreek, but realized I was already one step ahead of him. ie – I didn’t have to wake up in the morning and be him.
Geez, man, I SAID I WAS SORRY!
Maybe you need to say it more.
You are exactly right.
This isn’t art!
That movie just gives and gives. And when it’s done – it gives some more.
Greatest sports movie of all time.
“I am imposing the harshest penalty available…I sentence you to remain as shriek the rest of your life.”
If you find yourself in a heated internet argument with a member of a community you like being part of it’s almost always a good idea to walk away from the keyboard for a bit.
It’s a platitude but life’s too short to get too worked up about this shit.
I did walk away. When I returned, I found a message that “an apology ain’t gonna cut it.” Then today I’m rebuked for failing to apologize, after they specifically and publicly rejected any apology in advance.
“an apology ALONE isn’t going to cut it.”
That isn’t what you said the first time.
Read it – it said true repentance involves a change of behavior. “I’m sorry” then doing the same thing the next day is worthless.
That isn’t what I had done at the time you made the remark.
And did you, in fact, send a private message? Because that would have been nice, it simply didn’t get to me.
Hey Eddie, I tried to reel that conversation in yesterday. And it all got calmed down. But that doesn’t mean we don’t have a right to call BOTH parties out for what happened.
We try to run a fun site where people are free to disagree but not free to go completely off the rails. Two of you did that and two of you were called out for it offline and discretely. One reacted by apologizing to us and to the other person (which happens to be you). The other (you) is reacting by getting their back in the air. That’s not cool, man.
The public exchange was over. It was addressed privately. Why are you taking it personal? Both parties were addressed because both of you were shitting up a thread. And it wasn’t preemptive to your apology. It occurred hours after the shitting up of the thread happened. And it was done privately.
“It was addressed privately.”
I don’t recall getting any private messages. If I’d gotten one I would have apologized.
So if you can find a copy of those private messages and re-send them, feel free. I check both my regular email folder *and* my spam folder.
“One reacted by apologizing to us”
And I may well have done so too, if you hadn’t pre-empted any apology by rejecting apologies in advance.
Did you tell John Titor in advance that you wouldn’t accept his apology? Then the situations are not comparable.
No offense, but it sounds a bit contradictory to publicly inform me, before I had a chance to apologize (I’d just returned to the computer) that “an apology ain’t gonna cut it…” and then, as a gotcha, proclaim that I didn’t apologize.
Do you see the how I might possibly be a tad offended by this?
I don’t care at this point. Change and stay, don’t and leave – your choice.
Don’t do this.
First of all, we are NOT all friends. It’s pretty obvious that some of TPTB only barely tolerate some of the other posters/contributors. But that’s the fucking point. This is what life should be, Actual tolerance. Not mutual love and support, not supportive contents about the bouquet of one’s farts, but tooth-gritting, spine stiffening realization that you just can’t stand some people, but you’re a fucking grownup and so you deal with it.
I don’t think this was intended to be a hugbox. It doesn’t need to be a hugbox. You don’t need a hugbox. Write what you want to write because it’s worth writing.
Unless of course, someone is willing to pay you for first/exclusive publishing rights, in which case, fuck his place right in its ear.
It’s pretty obvious that some of TPTB only barely tolerate some of the other posters/contributors.
Yeah, everybody’s sick of Sloopy’s going on about tOSU. :-p
I’m sure Sloopy barely tolerates me, too.
Yeah, everybody’s sick of Sloopy’s going on about tOSU. :-p
The season hasn’t even started. Still 13 days, 10 hours and 29 minutes away. It’ll get worse, I’m sure.
There is nothing wrong about going on about tOSU. Unless you hate success and want to tear down successful people and institutions. Commie.
That…that was beautiful, man.
*wipes away tear*
I want hugs. Who else wants hugs?
Hugs? Anyone?….
Bueller?
*punches scruffy*
STEVE SMITH WANTS HUG
Wait…. not what I meant.
*glances nervously around for Rapesquatch*
IT’S A TRAP!
Antifa?
I sometimes wish this place was a little more free-wheeling in that regard. I don’t really think we ought to keep up false niceties, it’s an internet community. Curse each other’s families and wish AIDS on each other’s children, I say. But I don’t pay the bills, so.
I don’t think it’s really worth pulling up roots for, but I’m not you. If you really don’t want your stuff published anymore though, I think the decent thing to do would be to not publish it.
The mechanics are that I submit an article, they schedule it, and I lose control over it.
I would withdraw my article if I could, but the software won’t let me.
They had scheduled it for today, but in a fit of pique they rescheduled it for a week after tomorrow.
The software won’t let me stop the process, and the legal disclaimer says they can publish my submissions regardless of my wishes.
How’s this – if they put my article back into the 11 AM time slot, I will issue my apology and not engage in discussion with John Titor again. That more than meet’s Swiss’s requirement of “apology PLUS reformation.”
We won’t publish it, as you’ve demanded.
Problem solved.
Now, I tried to calm everything down yesterday. It got addressed to both of you later on. I thought it was done a different way than it was, but I guess I was wrong in that respect. Either way, nobody started attacking you in a current thread. Hell, I don’t think anybody else here, which is a lot of people, even noticed the comments Swissy made late yesterday but you and the other party that were getting way out of line. indont understand the freakout, to be honest. But do what you think is right. Sorry you feel the way you do, but goodbye.
Actually, I’ll leave that to others to decide. But I find it highly offensive that you’d try to make this about us when you’re the one (well, there were two out of line at first) that went berserk yesterday, are telling us what awful people we are for wanting our website to be civil, demand we pull all of your prior stuff, demand we pull all your future stuff, demand we remove comments, and threaten to leave and badmouth us throughout the whole process.
Pardon us for wanting there to be a modicum of civility. And it’s hardly in the name of social justice or anything like that, and you know it.
“It got addressed to both of you later on.”
I came back to the computer and found a public notice that “an apology ain’t going to cut it.”
Then today you come back and rebuke me for not apologizing.
I defended you. I defended your family. I rebuked the other site for taking advantage of your family and then leaving you in the lurch.
I offered a deal to apologize and forget the whole thing.
Yet you still insult me?
I didn’t make it “all about you,” I pointed out your double standard.
You would have the world believe that I refused to apologize when the very moment I returned to the keyboard I saw that you refused any apology in advance.
So this is your version of gratitude?
Yes, you are developing SJW standards, since double standards are an SJW standard.
Good bye and good luck. I actually hope the government stops oppressing your family.
And I don’t accept that you are trying to maintain standards of civility when you allow posts endorsing sacrilegious violence.
Eddie, not a single one of us woke up today with a rebuke on our mind. You came on here and started to rant and rave about demanding we pull articles and comments and telling us what lousy hosts we are.
You might want to walk back from this and look at what’s transpired. Who initiated what, both yesterday and today. And then stop moralizing.
I appreciate your support of my mother. As I appreciate the support everyone has given. Many of us left reason for different reasons. And those that came in solidarity over that did so voluntarily. It has been and will always be appreciated by me more than I can ever put into words. So thank you and everyone else it applies to.
Seriously, I’m asking you to calm down and retrace what’s happened. Then address it with me or another one of us privately. We will happily listen to your concerns and treat you with the amount of respect you deserve. Until then, just let it go, ok?
I’m afraid that I feel a little bit unsafe after Swiss starts posting legal stuff.
The best way to comply with your terms of service is simply to quit, which I had better do – no legal problems there, hope?
Read my last post. We can talk this out, but not with you being this irrational.
Remember, none of us woke up today with a list bearing your name. We thought it was addressed. You came in here, in public, and started making demands and ascribing motive where motive didn’t exist.
Please, take a break, calm down and then shoot me or someone else here an email if you want to discuss it rationally.
“You came in here, in public, and started making demands and ascribing motive where motive didn’t exist.”
I’m sorry, but seeing a public one-two punch: that an apology wouldn’t be accepted and how come I never apologized – that deserves a public reply.
You might want to look at some of yall’s responses when it comes to ascribing motives where none exist.
My offer to apologize, if you put things back to normal, somehow gets construed as some kind of demand, followed by legal citations. That was public.
I would no more question your right to run this Web site than I would question the right of the Reason Foundation to run its Web site.
But after I sent some private communications – no response – I then have to deal with public claims that I haven’t apologized, that this was dealt with in private. Public claims require public replies.
It’s no skin off your nose, since you can delete whatever replies do not suit you.
Why Swiss chose to ominously stand on legal rights is unclear…and it’s unsettling.
I enjoy your articles. Why don’t you just take a day off, have some beers, or whatever your choice of poison is, chill and rethink this? The one thing I don’t get is why you and JT engage in these pointless spats. Maybe if you guys cannot engage without it getting out of hand, you just ignore each other? I’m just a commenter here, so hopefully, I’m not commenting on something here when I should just be quiet, but just saying, I would rather you rethink this and stick around.
*says he’s leaving, puts up 25 more posts*
Just take a break, and come back later. People want you here. You know that. Now it just feels like drama.
Why Swiss chose to ominously stand on legal rights is unclear…
Don’t get bent out of shape by that, it’s probably just Swiss being overly protective. He does stuff like that from time to time. I once saw him berate a commenter for posting too many links…in a links thread. It’s just a quirk of his to go all “mamma bear” over this site.
That was probably me.
And I still *hate Swizzie’s guts to this very day!
*not really true
The Legal link is not ominous or threatening – it is simply a reminder, that if you voluntarily publish here, you have no ability to demand we take it down, etc.
The links thing is an ongoing somewhat humorous reminder to people that we actually do post links, so if we go hunt them down and provide them, why spend 10 of the first 15 comments dumping your own in? Plus it lets me narrow my gaze at LH and Derpetologist!!!!!
And thanks to Swizzie’s narrowed gazes, I try to time my links so they aren’t bunched together. Works most of the time unless I’m in a hurry because of a morning work demand.
Speaking of, I hope your optometrist sends you a nice Christmas card. I’d imagine he makes a fine fortune keeping that gaze in working order.
“it is simply a reminder, that if you voluntarily publish here, you have no ability to demand we take it down, etc.”
And. once, again, you have indulged in a terminological inexactitude (see also “neutrality”). You ignore what I specifically posted above:
“I read the legal disclaimers, and I recognize the moderators’ right to publish my articles after I submit them, even if I object, but as any good libertarian will tell you, there’s a difference between having a legal right to being a poopyhead and actually exercising that right.”
I was not making a claim of legal right, I was asking you not to exercise your legal right to be a poopyhead – an invitation you declined.
No, I get how it works. I’m saying that if you don’t want it published, there’s really no reason to go ahead and publish it against your wishes even though it would be legal to do so. Let you have your walkout, if that’s what you want. Like I said though, I don’t pay the bills. Just my 2 pence.
I’m not really sure that I count as part of the community here but but I really wish you would take a couple of deep breaths, cool off, and come back. I came here because I’ve been a Conservative my whole life but something just didn’t “fit”. I’m trying to learn more about Libertarianism because that seems to be the missing piece and I feel like I’m learning a lot from the exchanges here, except the Steve Smith stuff that I totally don’t get ;-), because you guys make me think about things in a different way. Yes, things got heated yesterday, too heated, but that is because you guys are passionate. Passionate is a good thing but it also leads to BIG disagreements. You guys are all friends. Trust me, life is way too short to let stuff like this come between friends. Take a second, have a private talk, and hash it out.
…except the Steve Smith stuff that I totally don’t get…
Count your blessings, ma’am!
Oh, and I’m completely sure you’re one of us – whether you like it or no!
Everybody needs plausible deniability in case the party van shows up.
There are party vans? Do I have to drink that craft beer stuff ya’ll are always talking about or is Stroh’s in the quart bottle acceptable?
Different kind of party van.
+1 Tom Stimus and The American Dream!
You do not want to be on this party van.
https://goo.gl/images/MBiUB8
But you definitely want to be on this one!
(Tundra hearts the ’70s)
Aw, crap. That’s not what I had in mind.
I thought it might be OMWC’s van.
Count your blessings, ma’am!
You actually believe “she’s” a libertarian woman?
STEVE SMITH GETS YOU
At this point I should be so lucky. Trust me, Steve Smith would probably swear off his evil ways.
Unpossible!
Well, I do have my charms.
Pics?
Kinky
STEVE SMITH primer.
http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/18/reason-morning-links-obama-fal#comment_1458769
Damn, I was hoping he was a real person.
He actually is. This all started when someone said he looked like a shaved sasquatch, and shit just went downhill from there.
I enjoy your articles and perspectives – it would be a loss for you to leave this site.
Eddie, I hope you’ll reconsider. I value your contributions here and formerly at TOS. I consider you to be a valued member of our community.
Plus, you’re better than that. You put up with all my abuse and snark over the years. You can always just ignore your antagonist as I do with certain people online.
This site has more heavy handed moderation than the other.
Yup, we banhammer the crap out of….oh, wait.
I don’t think it’s more heavy-handed, I think it’s more visible. The other site was fond of the memeory hole technique.
Pretty much this. The moderation here is much more visible, so it sucks out more. Especially when people get into public fights with the mods over the moderation.
To my recollection, the mods always offer to discuss things privately, but people seem to like airing their grievances in public for some reason.
+1 Festivus
I’m most proud of going beyond catbutting. I got Zardoz’d last weekend!
Top that, bitches!
I think the only thing worse would be a STEVE SMITHING, right?
“To my recollection, the mods always offer to discuss things privately”
Belatedly.
First I sent private messages which were not returned.
Then I replied to public accusations.
Specifically, I replied to the one-two punch of public accusations:
(a) “an apology won’t cut it” (right after I came back to the computer)
(b) OMG, you didn’t apologize!
Fusionist, I’ve liked a lot of your articles. I can only repeat what a lot of other people have said here. Take a week or two off. Enjoy the summer for a bit. Give yourself a chance to clear your mind.
Then drop by and reconsider abandoning the site.
People would be much happier if they didn’t take this stuff personally. Seriously, sure, but not personally.
SO very much this. There are some here whose opinions I really can’t stand but, and this (I think) is the key, their continued presence here demonstrates a willingness to respect and engage contrary opinions. For me, that counts for a whole lot. Pas d’ennemis à droite, pas d’amis à gauche.
Eddie,
As someone who tends to lean right, and is very sympathetic to (while not sharing beliefs with) religious conservatives, let me say that I understand your feeling attacked and overreacting. There is something very off-putting about the tone with which the defenders of gay rights respond to any hint of sympathy with the millennia of Judeo-Christian thinking on these issues. In the modern world holding beliefs, which were absolutely orthodox for almost all of western history, is treated much as open homosexuality was treated in the past. with, hostile mockery, contempt, and rage.
That said, you did over react, and it would probably help if you tried to understand that those with whom you were disagreeing have similar emotional responses programmed by the very millennia of orthodox contempt they have faced.
I personally would hope you reconsider your angry reaction, and stay a member of what has so far been the least contentious libertarian site I have encountered.
“it would probably help if you tried to understand that those with whom you were disagreeing have similar emotional responses”
Perhaps I should have published some specific acknowledgement of police abuse against gay people?
Oh, wait, I did, and that was held against me!
Eddie, as I’ve said before I’m someone sympathetic to your views. I would like you to stay around, as so many others have also said. Like others have suggested, just try taking some time off, if after being gone you don’t feel you miss this place then so be it. However, you’ve been around this group for years and to me abandoning something you seem to enjoy so much over this seems rash. If you have some time and money to travel, there is a shrine to Mary in Wisconsin that I believe is the only place in the US to have Fatima like claims recognized by the church. If you do in fact never return, peace be with you.
“Don’t worry, you’ll get over it.”
He should have gone the Tony Soprano route.
“Whaddya gonna do?”
Uber broadcasts a special virtue signal overnight. Enjoy:
This holier-than-thou shit is getting old. Lots of people seem to like it though.
Uber is hoping they can leverage some goodwill from their proggie tormentors. I’ve got some bad news for them.
I’m not so sure that the majority of the public likes it.
As the country braces for more white supremacist demonstrations,
Yeah, right, mh-hm, ok
I got this in my inbox too. I think I might use Lyft for the first time this weekend when I need a ride to the airport.
I’m pretty sure Lyft would have done that too if they were top dog.
Once that happens, I’ll start using traditional taxis. At least they’re not stupid enough to clutter my inbox with their completely worthless virtue signaling.
What the fuck is this supposed to accomplish anyway? Woooo, I’m so fucking happy that my taxi service doesn’t like Nazi’s. How fucking surprising.
I’m so fucking happy that my taxi service doesn’t like Nazi’s. How fucking surprising.
Hey now, they are taking a brave stance here. If they didn’t speak up, who would? They’re, like, Oskar Schindler level heroes here.
/sarc
Oh shut the fuck up, render a service for a fee, and fuck off.
So fucking much this. I’d give my left nut to just be able to go places, buy the shit I need, and never once know or care what the cashier, delivery truck driver, senior VP, CEO and custodial staff think about contemporary politics. I’m not that old, but I remember a world so quaint, and it was a lot better.
Apparently, they weren’t horrified by any of the Antifa demonstrations which resulted in massive property damage.
No, antifa were doing it for the right reasons, so it’s totally cool.
Of course not, they were engaging in non-violent civil disobedience arson.
I too got that email. I wonder how many people would normally tell them to shut up and drive the damn car, but are worried that doing so might get them on a secret Nazi list.
NO RIDES FOR NAZI SYMPATHIZERS!
Yeah I got that too. It made me appreciate my car, just a little bit more than I normally do.
Meh. I will say, that compared to the rest of the outpouring of virtue signaling, Uber’s is at least refreshingly cynical.
Great point.
Martin Shkreli ‘disrespected the Wu-Tang Clan,’ making prospective juror mad
Creative way to get out of jury duty. On a side note Shreli might have a point that the media is out to get him. In this article along with many others they say Daraprim is an AIDS drug. It is not an AIDs drug. Daraprim is used to treat toxoplasmosis, actinomycosis, and isosporiasis. AIDS patients often use it, because a weakened immmune system puts you at a high risk for these diseases. Especially if you like to dig around in cat poop. My theory is the media calls it an AIDS drug because it’s much more sexy and drums up more anger.
I’m willing to accept civil asset forfeiture this one time if they seize the album from him and release it.
Wu-Tang Clan ain’t nothing to fuck with
Pour one out for ODB!
The greatest untalented musician/rapper of all time. I truly enjoyed his music
Invasive Lionfish May Be Superfish Hybrids
The fish taking over the Caribbean is a hybrid of two Indo-Pacific lionfish species.
https://www.hakaimagazine.com/article-short/invasive-lionfish-may-be-superfish-hybrids
Finally
This is simply the best GIF ever made. It will never be topped. Ever.
But is it tasty? It’s easiest to fight invasive species if they are tasty.
Despite the Barcelona attack, CNN is still 100% full-on “coverage” of Trump’s Charlottesville comments. These people don’t even report the news anymore, let alone fake news.
Wow.
Like I said earlier, they think they’ve found a pressure point that works (again). Their ranting and raving is only going to strengthen the resolve of their opponents.
To some extent, they’re correct, illustrated by all of the weak-kneed business people and conservatives running for the bushes. However, among people I know personally, most are just shaking their head and saying “WTF is this shit?”
I’m looking forward to the press’ scrambling for damage control as the general public starts to notice that the shitbags want to tear down anything having to do with Jefferson or Washington as well. Or even Lincoln, apparently.
It’s working for some people that have never paid attention to or noticed fringe things like a Neo-Nazi march in the past.
Unfortunately even my previously non-voter apolitical friend that recently went full TDS, who knows about the Nazi punks that used to get the shit kicked out of them by leftist punks 20 years ago in the local music scene, he had to actually step away from our lunch discussion to breathlessly dedicate his full attention to antifa martyr’s mother’s televised speech earlier this week.
I expect the obsessive coverage of Cville to overall result in major news outlets shedding viewers.
Everyone hates Nazis.
Well, maybe not MSNBC’s viewership, which at this point are probably all true believers to the cause, but everyone else for sure.
illustrated by all of the weak-kneed business people and conservatives running for the bushes
What the anti-Trump Republicans don’t seem to realize is that Trump gets support, despite his near-endless list of faults, because he fights. If they really wanted to displace Trump from the head of the party, they’d offer up someone more respectable who fights just as much. The right wants someone to fight for them, and they’ll take what they can get.
Yeah, I flipped on the news this morning to check on updates in the Barcelona story. Had to flip through a few stations to finally find non-Charlottesville coverage. By the way, there was a second incident, a previous explosion has now been linked and suspects are still on the loose. Things you would never know watching CNN.
Fuck the Red Sox. Boston, too
Sigh, Go White Sox.
It’s rough having to live in a city with Cubs fans. Every Summer around July, we have the Crosstown Series where the White Sox and the Cubs play against each other and there’s lots of animosity between the fanbases. I went to the last game of the series and apparently got drunk and started yelling that the Dodgers are gonna rape them.
I hope no one was triggered.
Sorry about the bat joke upthread. Didn’t realize anyone besides my Grandpa was an actual White Sox fan.
And St. Barry of Hawaii. Don’t forget about him, and all his fond memories of watching the Sox play at Cominsky Field.
No worries. I love them but the fookin suck this year. I went to a couple of games this summer and I walked out of all of them drunk because that was the only way I could deal with their shittiness.
My father is a long time White Sox fan. He’s never lived in Chicago nor anywhere near Chicago. He liked Nellie Fox growing up. He’s also a Denver Broncos fan despite never living anywhere near Colorado. He liked how terrible they were when they came into the league and their hideous vertical-striped socks.
started yelling that the Dodgers are gonna rape them.
Then I hope the Dodgers play them before October. Otherwise I’m afraid you’ll look silly hitching your wagon to that playoff choker of a franchise.
The Dodgers do have a way of fucking choking. My friend (who is a Cubs fan) told me that the Dodgers won’t make it because the only thing that make it alive out of LA is Magic Johnson.
And I would say that the Nats will most likely get into the WS but Dusty Baker is prone to making boneheaded decisions, especially during the playoffs.
The Nats are never going to win because Mike Rizzo, for reasons known only to himself, refuses to give the bullpen more than the bare minimum of attention. You have all this talent and a short window before Harper waves goodbye – why on earth don’t you throw everything you have at fixing the pen?
They got that guy from the Twins.
Cubs fans are all yuppies now. I have ancestral ties to the ‘Wrigleyville’ (actually Lakeview) neighborhood, through marriage, from back when there use to be a garbage dump next to the stadium and gang fights use to happen just blocks away. I give Sox fans this- they actually watch the games and most of them are not twenty-something year-olds originally from Michigan
I live like 1.8 miles from the field and it’s become intolerable. My poor wife who is an Indians fan had to endure all the W’s flying around in our neighborhood.
I’m sure having college kids pissing on your lawn isn’t helpful, either
Your wife is awesome.
*applauds*
It has been hard, since 2005…..sigh.
We have a pretty good farm system, so there’s hope….in 2020. Hahahaha.
It could be worse…I’m an SF Giants fan.
Wow, there’s actually more than one Sox fan on this board? The Venn diagram of libertarian White Sox fans has to be quite small.
I actually find them much more tolerable to watch this year. Low expectations make all the difference in the world. There’s enough young guys on the current team to keep things interesting (Rodon, Anderson, Lopez, Moncada, but even lesser guys like Delmonico and Davidson ), and over the next 18 months we should see the other top prospects start to trickle through.
The Venn diagram of libertarian White Sox fans has to be quite small.
I would think it was a complete overlap…talk about rebels and non-bandwagoneers 🙂
It’s rough having to live in a city with Cubs fans
As a Diamondbacks fan I can relate, this town is crawling with people from Chicago. Somebody at work commented once about how she was surprised at how many Cubs fans make the trip for spring training. She had no idea that nearly all of them lived in the local area.
I feel good that I maintained the theme for a whole week.
And finished on a high note. Well done.
But seriously, those guys were fucking awful. The only reason we bought the records was because the normals wanted them banned (see also: Ozzy solo records).
Palate cleanser.
I genuinely enjoy the Pistols for several reasons. a)I don’t care about technical proficiency b)because the world of music criticism slags them at every opportunity in the service of lauding the Communists of the Clash (who I still enjoy listening to anyway but god the sociopolitical angle of Clash worship is so tedious) c)John Lydon is fucking awesome. Dude just does not care and will say whatever the hell he actually believes. Told the anti-Israel mob to fuck off, too.
Oh, I get it. I couldn’t care less about technical proficiency, I enjoy a band that ‘means it’. I just never got that from the Pistols. They always seemed to be acting.
I do like Johnny for his fearlessness and I had several PiL records (and t-shirts) back in the day. I love the Clash – but yes, I have to ignore their silly politics.
Fair enough. If you listen to their early live recordings, I think they sound pretty raw and real. I used to have a bootleg somewhere that was all from shows in 1976 and there’s such energy to it.
They both have their strengths:
The Clash has beautiful lyrics, incredibly tight music and a lot of “we wanted to learn more about music” through their progression.
Sex Pistols had “fuck it” written all over them.
Politics aside, I absolutely love The Clash. They are one of the most influential bands in history as far as I’m concerned. As for Sex Pistols, I played them this week for a reason. And the song I chose is a fucking masterpiece.
Don’t know why this came to mind just now, but I feel the need to post it just for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPQtOdwy4Lw
I’m almost certain that somebody had a pretty crisp high-def version of this posted on YouTube some years ago, but it seems to have been vaporized.
And in keeping with the Midwest theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MujMbyVulxI
Nice choices. And that’s exactly what I was talking about.
I’ll add some
oops – forgot the link
Suicide Commandos
I’m going to see them tomorrow night!!
Don’t hurt yourself in the slam pit 😉
Ha! I’m 50 and i guarantee I’ll be among the youngest there. I saw them last New Years Eve, right after they re-formed. It was awesome seeing such aggressive noise coming from three old guys!
Triple bill with Soul Asylum and Guided by Voices. Outside at a small amphitheater. Should be a blast.
Holy shit. The Zero Boys.
From the ME TOO! ME TOO! desk:
A Confederate statue in Helena, Montana is set for removal from a city park after Native American lawmakers petitioned the city council, according to a report on Thursday.
The Helena City Commission directed City Manager Ron Alles to remove the granite fountain from a downtown park on Tuesday, although no official vote was held on the matter, the Independence Record reported.
Helena Mayor Jim Smith was previously opposed to removing the century-old memorial, until violence in Virginia on Saturday claimed the life of a 32-year-old woman.
“I believe the time has come for the removal of the fountain,” Smith said, the Record reported.
I am unaware of any disruptive behavior associated with this or any other memorial in the state, but the precautionary principle, combined with the lemming instincts of politicians, demands its removal. I have no doubt the dozens of black Montanans will sleep easier.
Out of curiosity, what the hell is a Confederate statue doing in Montana?
The same thing one was doing in Madison, Wisconsin apparently.
Mayor of Richmond used the same line – I wasn’t going to have the statues removed until last weekend happened, etc etc. Someone’s going to have to explain the logic of that one to me. You didn’t want to remove them until there was rioting and a death over removing them? What?
Wait, Madison of all places. That sounds odd, there was a bastion of badthink in the middle of what everyone tells me is the Portlandia of the Midwest.
I couldn’t believe it either, but it’s right up there in the link.
I believe it was a graveyard for a Union-run POW camp.
“They got lost” – Inscription on plinth.
*standing ovation*
Out of curiosity, what the hell is a Confederate statue doing in Montana?
After the north thoroughly whipped the south, the south’s economy struggled and many southerners (including former confederates) moved west to seek a better life. So a lot of westerners are descended from southerners, which would explain why there would be such seemingly out-of-place monuments.
A lot of ex-confederates moved up here after the war. A man at the bar put it quite nicely a couple of weeks ago, “There ain’t no yankees in Montana.”
What’s the background on a Confederate monument in Montana? That seems a bit out of the way.
Anyone wanna take odds on if this hysteria is going to precipitate into even more statues springing up on private property like mushrooms. I think the mad hysteria is what perturbs me much much more than the subject matter at hand.
see: intersectionality of antifa, private property, and gun violence
ACLU, just when they were looking principled, decides they’re not going to litigate on behalf of groups that are armed. Fucking hate the ACLU.
What would Samuel Adams and Paul Revere think about a firearms ban on Boston Common, I wonder?
The ACLU’s view towards speech the left doesn’t like goes in the same cycle every time:
1. ACLU defends the speech
2. Left wing cries, threatens to pull donations
3. ACLU decides not to defend the speech
This cycle started with Citizens United and it’s gone the same way ever since.
Precisely. I guarantee there’s been a lot of hand-wringing and brow-furrowing at the ACLU over the shit the left’s been throwing at them over their role in Charlottesville, and they simply can’t bear to be rejected by their own darlings.
None of them want to work in the private sector, where they expect results! The Obvious Clip
2. Left wing cries, threatens to pull donations
Which always amazes me, as perhaps the most well-known ACLU case is the one where they defended the right of neo-Nazis to march through a Jewish neighborhood. Something tells me these leftists aren’t doing their due diligence when they decide who to donate too.
ACLU was on the liberty side of CU.
I linked to Volokh above. It goes beyond this, the California chapter also said that they will no longer defend white supremacist speech that ‘incites violence’. The big sellout is coming, as occurred on religious liberty and pro-life demonstrations.
I knew long ago that they were an organization without principle, that exists solely to perpetuate itself. But they are just a motherfuckin joke at this point.
I guess the VA chapter can at least say they had their moment of decency.
You have to wonder though, 10, 15 years down the road, what principled stands are they going to be able to take pride in? I mean, increasingly, they’re having to harken back to the 1980s and Larry Flynt for their most recent lore. How inspirational is “We toed the Party Lion” really going to be for young lawyers?
I’ve posted this before, so apologies to those who have read it but it is always worth sharing. The ACLU started life as the legal defense team of the Communist Party of the USA and have never been for actual civil liberties. Here is co-founder and (then) chair, Roger Nash Baldwin, writing in 1934 –
To be fair to Baldwin, he did have a realization about Stalin and tried to purge the ACLU of communists in the 40’s.
True dat! And to be quite honest, I’m unsure why I have such a loathing for Baldwin when I love others who once were duped by the Reds but eventually saw the light like Robert Williams.
And now they’re just a big money-making machine!
As I first started coming to the realization that government is the fucking problem, I discovered the ACLU because they were one of the only organizations I knew about at the time who ever pushed back against the government in any arena. Obviously as I followed along, I discovered that there were other organizations much less well known but much, much more consistent in their philosophy. And, over the years, my perception is that the ACLU has continued to wander further and further down the path of “rights as defined by progressives”. I suspect it’s the way some people feel about the NRA – a starting point, but there are organizations who represent the cause better (although, I don’t get the sense that the NRA has veered quite so far from their stated mission as the ACLU, but I don’t follow the NRA closely so I could be wrong).
So yes, the ACLU are overall very disappointing and fairly useless, except maybe as a pretty visible signpost to others that civil, respectable, organized resistance to government over-reach does exist. If all they do is plant that seed, perhaps that not nothing.
I classify the NRA as an organization that exists solely to perpetuate itself. Same with Susan G. Komen and PETA.
I don’t follow the NRA closely enough to agree or disagree, but point taken.
I don’t follow Susan G Komen super closely either, but I’ve been deeply suspicious of them based solely on the MASSIVE amount of media self-promotion they do.
“I believe in non-violent methods of struggle as most effective in the long run for building up successful working class power. Where they cannot be followed or where they are not even permitted by the ruling class, obviously only violent tactics remain.”
I believe only last night I said that they have appeared to come to this realization. It is not going to go well for them. It is not the ruling class that is stopping them. The ruling class is on board already, it is the ordinary people who aren’t. That isnt a struggle they can win at the ballot box or on the street with bats.
OTOH, the ACLU-Virginia still supports free speech and thinks governments should provide the support that would allow it.
I believe I saw a post yesterday saying you are in Iowa – I’m in Ames.
Me too.
“I am imposing the harshest penalty available…I sentence you to remain as shriek the rest of your life.”
And then, when you die you will be reincarnated as… yourself. Over, and over, and over.
ZING!
what the hell is a Confederate statue doing in Montana?
Apparently, Montana was quite a hotbed of Confederate sympathy. I have been told a substantial amount of money was funneled to the CSA.
Daughters of the Confederacy putit up in the 20’s. Confederate Gulch in the nearby Belt Mtns was a huge gold mining area in the 1880’s. All this hoo-ha makes me want to explore it. It’s just a few miles from me.
Aaaaaand…it’s gone.
Statue of Chief Justice Taney removed from Annapolis under the cover of darkness. I’ve not seen such dedicated, fast, and complete work before.
They voted to remove it, I don’t have a real problem with that even though Taney’s record is far more complicated than just Dred Scott.
I’m so glad these 150 year old scabs are being ripped open again.
Getting closer to Year Zero one statue at a time.
Back in high school – late 80s here – I had a conservative high school history teacher who mentioned seeing Taney’s statue when visiting Washington DC; and wanting to tip the thing over.
Powerline had an interesting post about Taney.
Who once said:
etc
Don’t all public works projects move that fast in Maryland?
Just FB-ed: If only government moved at statue-removal speed for other things.
Like pothole fixing…in Chicago.
The way governments tend to ROADZ, I assumed pothole-fixing meant “fixing into place” rather than “repairing”.
I wish I had had this for the coffee post.
GAH?!
That. Is. Disgusting.
Despite all of the warnings from establishment types that she was a “weak” candidate that would lose to a Democrat, Trump still endorsed this lady yesterday against Jeff Flake. Good news: she’s open to non-interventionist ideas, as shown by this Ron Paul interview.
Some reasons why establishment GOPers are terrified of her. To summarize, she’s a 2nd Amendment hardliner and is favorable to some conspiracies that are super-gauche to the elitists.
Lol.
Ward comes with a lot of baggage
And then she goes on to list a bunch of things that will probably excite the hell out of the voters there.
Nice try, Laurie.
I think Laurie way overestimates how much the so-called moderates care about InfoWars, seeing how Trump became the nominee with their backing. What excites me more about her is that she apparently has a bunch of “lone no votes” in her State Senate tenure, which means that she has principles. We could use more of that in the Big Senate.
I think it was Vhyrus that pointed out the AZ Republic is the most tone-deaf to it’s intended audience. Ward is from Kingman, in a rural part of the state known mostly because of its proximity to Las Vegas (gotta gas up somewhere) so she didn’t have much financial backing to make a serious challenge to McCain. Maybe she fares better.
Kirsten Sinema is about as dumb as Anne Kirkpatrick, who had as much chance to beat McCain as Sinema has to beat Flake. McCain won very easily, by around 10 points if I remember correctly. I would wager this is why McCain has managed to stay in the Senate as long as he has: in spite of his obvious flaws team blue’s challenger has simply been unacceptable.
And when I say Sinema is dumb, I don’t mean it in the sense that I disagree with Sinema, therefore she must be dumb. I mean it in the sense that she’s actually stupid. She’s come down to the Phoenix VA on multiple occasions and has left me less than impressed with her ability to grasp basic concepts. Her staff stopped dealing with congressionals and instead routes Vets through another congresscritter in CO, simply because they actually know which office to call. Her staff hasn’t figured it out in the years she’s been in office…
Trump is really trying to save the GOP from itself. Not that they’ll thank him. I look forward to an exciting primary season.
Also, FYI, here’s Trump’s endorsement. Hope she pulls it off.
I guess all those TDS sufferers who made 1984 an Amazon best seller came away saying, “That ‘memory hole’ thing was awesome!”
IT’S A COOKBOOK!
So, what do you think? I change my name back to Fusionist, you put my article back in the 11 AM time slot, I apologize, and I promise not to engage with John Titor again.
That more than meets the “apology plus reformation” requirement.
Anything beyond this is not in accordance with the forgiveness you preach.
What’s the drama now?
I had an article scheduled for 11 AM today – the rescheduled it to noon eight weeks from today in retaliation for arguing with another poster in a completely different context – after initially rejecting any attempt from me to apologize for anything I said, they indicated that maybe an apology would be acceptable.
So I offer to apologize if they restore the article to its 11 AM time slot and agree not to talk to the person I argued with before.
Otherwise so long glibertarians, nice knowing you.
eight days from today
You don’t have the ability to make demands here – see also https://glibertarians.com/legal/
Does your version of forgiveness include making vague legal threats against people who offer you an apology?
Anyway, that is the last straw, if after defending sloopy’s family, providing free work for the site, offering apologies even for being insulted, I end up getting legal threats, I’m out of here.
I do not hate you, Eddie. I just do not see the need to do your bidding about posting things. We will take all future scheduled things down. We are going to leave the old things up, per our terms, and preserve the commentary.
If you see see a vague legal threat in there, it is a good thing you left law school.
Uh wuh?
“it is a good thing you left law school.”
How many terminological inexactitudes are you going to utter today.
Raise your hand, those who got a prize for superior work in Constitutional Law.
Oh, you hand remains down, Swissy?
And how far does doxxing legitimately extend? Who can I doxx?
Jeez, let it go. You put a lot of time into your pieces, so I understand why you’d be protective of them. If you can’t, well, giving ultimatums isn’t the way to go.
It sticks in my craw that as soon as I got back to my computer yesterday, I found a notice rejecting any apology in advance, followed today by a protestation that I never apologized.
Time to put it to rest for the day/night. What did you think they would say given you did all this in public? After decades in Asia, I’ve learned one of the biggest things people need is an “out”.
Have some dignity, Eddie.
It appears that ship has sailed.
Eddie, I enjoy reading your posts (most of the time, anyway) and the place is more interesting with you than without you…..but good lord, man, did you watch a lot of soap operas over the years or something? That’s some serious work at creating bad drama.
First FreeSociety and now Eddie. I’m starting to think that Mitt Romney’s conception of self-deportation wasn’t bullshit after all. Actually, I just wanted to take this opportunity to shit on Mitt Romney.
Every decent person should take every opportunity to shit on Mittens.
Always understandable.
What made FS Leave?
He ragequit after going off about sports discussed in the morning in the morning links. When I let him know that he could post sports free on his site, he went nuclear – after a while he sniffed that he knew he wasn’t wanted (he wasn’t) and left.
Good luck with that.
I, for one, love it when other people try to set the terms for their interactions with me.
Which is what this site is doing.
I gave them free research and free articles – they publish the articles, so I guess it will be a bit awkward for them now to come up and say “oh, those articles sucked and we’re bad editors.”
They tell me that in exchange for the “privilege” of doing free work for them, and attracting readers, I must submit to being told that they won’t accept an apology for something where I may or may not have been wrong, and then follow up this by saying “look, he didn’t apologize!”
The allow people, without objection, to print fantasies about sacrilegious violence against the Vicar of Christ. Then they preach about civility and quote the Bible.
Those are the terms on which they want to deal with me.
The fail to respond to my private communications, then they make public accusations against me, then they say, “oh, let’s discuss this in private.”
I choose, in my discretion, not to accept those proffered terms.
They invite me back to the site then they terminate my right to post articles (except as “Guest Contributor,” and fuck that).
I think I can manage without that sort of thing
Today is #AAviationDay (where American Airlines gives hangar and aircraft tours to members of the Airline Geeks group). It’s making me sick with envy reading all these golldang Tweets. Tickets sell out in seconds for this event, so I wasn’t able to get in on it.
Have you ever been to Oshkosh?
Nope, but I live and work near the Udvar Hazy Center, so I have that going for me.
Please make the trip sometime. It is the coolest thing ever. I got to sit in a MIG once!
Awesome! Next year I may forego my VT vacation to do something new. That could be on the list.
Book a hotel as early as possible. Or do the vrbo thing. It’s really popular. You can also camp there, if that’s your groove.
Looks like they have RV hookups. Might look at renting and RV.
Oshkosh is absolutely worth the trip. I’ve never seen an air show that even comes close.
Just beware, it seems like every year the EAA grounds gets flooded. As for finding a place to stay, I’m kind of in the area and could help sort you out.
Used to work in marketing for a third party airline maintenance company. Was in the hangar every day, and accompanied the avionics guys on board the planes a few times (not because I needed to for my job, but because they knew I wanted to). Miss those days.
I’m in marketing – how do I get one of those gigs????
Like I said, I miss those days. Probably my favorite job I’ve ever had.
I worked for a startup back in the early oughts developing a 3 axis MEMS gyro. We spent a lot of time with the avionics people. It was a blast.
And the visitors at DCA are on the nooz, too! Goddamn it.
I want to fly that route!
There’s another one that’s DFW – DFW, but I couldn’t find it on Flightaware or Flight Radar.
Looking at the DCA – IAD one, no trackers on that, either 🙁
I’m looking out my window to see which directions flights are taking off from DCA today – if they’re using runway 1, I’ll probably see that flight from my office.
Is that an actual flight? Usually they use a dummy flight & route like that for the gate passes.
Possibly!
Another one I’ve seen http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/fb09d4fd009de4f42b41cfaaeca6d0f5.jpg
(was from someone’s AAviation Day trip report last year)
When I initially read that hashtag, I thought it had something to do with Alcoholics Anonymous and planes.
Put out: 9,100 baseballs stolen from high school teams in Kanto
I can’t wait to find out what the hell the reason is.
Antifa weaponry
Insert hipsters throw like girls joke.
No they don’t.
They throw like spaghetti-armed weenie hipster men.
WWIAFTM!
That takes a lot of balls.
Needed for revenge?
Nomo! Nomo!
Less than two months to the release ofOutrage Coda!
My new fetish.
For Eddie
Have they banned reruns of The Dukes of Hazzard and General Lee cars made by Ertl Replicas yet?
Oh shit!
*logs into ebay*
The MPC models of the General Lee excised the battle flag from the box art back in 2012, IIRC, after that monstrous child murdered those people in their church.
They’re being digitally remastered to remove the flag and dixie horn.
One observation from Cville. The people with firearms did not engage in violence. Neither were they attacked.
The suspicion is that they were allowed to leave peaceably while the cops pushed the twat Nazis toward the cunt Antifas for a good show.
That’s impossible. Once someone holds a penis replacement in their hands, it just has to shoot.
The statistics showing that more people die in automobile crashes remains intact.
BAN CARS!!!
That is an excellent observation.
But “heavily armed neo-nazis”
Office prog is REEEEEEEEEING at the top of his lungs about something Trump did.
They’ve been REEEE-ing for two years. And Methinks they’ll be REEEEE-ing for another 7 1/4.
Is this her?
One observation from Cville. The people with firearms did not engage in violence. Neither were they attacked.
I was not aware until yesterday of the presence of “armed protestors”. I am baffled as to why there was not blood ankle-deep in the streets.
It is almost like an armed society is a polite society and guns just don’t magically go off and kill people or cause otherwise nonviolent people to become violent. Big if true.
There was some kind of group, not a racist/Nazi one but Oath Keepers or something, that was there with ARs.
People are hesitant to fire the first shots of the next civil war.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/17/california-bill-1-year-in-jail-for-using-wrong-transgender-pronoun/
Bill in California Senate would make it a crime punishable by up to a year in jail for using the “wrong” transgender pronoun. Thanks to the 1st Amendment, this bill will go nowhere. But, these people are terrifying.
Bet in prison the guards won’t be using the right pronouns.
You know, any adult with half a fucking brain cell should be able to figure out the inherent dangers of something like that, but apparently America’s dumbing down has went much better than planned.
Listen to the Fifth Column podcast (#62) to hear Kmele disembowel Matt and Movnihan for their TDS.
Foster2020!
Other than Sessions’ actions on asset forfeiture, which is a real mortal sin from about any perspective, all of the bitches about Trump from the right, be it Libertarian or Conservative are about manners. Other than asset forfeiture, I can’t think of a single substantive criticism they ever make. Has Trump gotten us into any wars? Has he signed some giant new entitlement like Bush and Obama did? I am not saying you have to like the guy but it is pretty hard to say that he isn’t an improvement to some degree over what we have had the last 16 years. But it is forever about how he tweets mean things or he is crude or otherwise offends their delicate sensibilities. Yet, they all think of themselves as these deep thinkers. These wonks and opinion leaders. It is pathetic.
think of themselves as these deep thinkers
…who apparently got bullied a lot.
It is all about manners. Trump’s mortal sin is that he doesn’t kiss their asses and doesn’t speak in the courtly language. They are small shallow people who can’t get beyond that.
If all of their think tanks were in West Virginia and not in Washington, D.C., these so-called wonks’ views on Trump would be nearly 180 degrees opposite. It’s all social signaling, it’s all pandering to their friends rather than what their readership actually wants.
I keep saying it: The Republican Establishment is the Washington Generals to the Democrats Harlem Globetrotters. Trump joined the team, and he’s actually trying to win the game. He’s fucking up the whole program.
Every single Republican “leader” has the secret dream of delivering a fantastic, statesmanlike concession speech in a Presidential election. There is a reason the new right is calling them cucks.
There is a lot of truth to that. I said back during the election that while the Obama years were a disaster for the country, they were a golden age for establishment Republicans and conservative wonks and activists. They got to raise money, feel important and tell people whatever they wanted to hear knowing that as long as Obama was in office they would never actually have to do anything. And that is a great role for them. Talking out of their asses and feeling important is what they do. Taking responsibility and making choices, not so much. They are the George Costanzas of politics, forever napping under their desks hoping no one notices them or expects anything of them.
They hate Trump more than anything for actually trying to do something and putting their sweet gigs in jeopardy.
And we’re seeing how far they’re willing to go in order to keep napping.
They’re very scary illiberals.
The establishment had a good Kabuki play going, and Trump is an extremely grave threat to that play, even more so than I once thought. Hence the fainting and the unhinged screeching from the GOPe.
I consider the people who keep voting in same old GOP losers to be the real cucks, but I guess I just don’t understand the term very well.
It all just comes down to one thing. Trump is threatening the status quo in Washington. Career politicians and bureaucrats are not exactly going to like that. The funny part is that Trump makes them expose themselves for what they are and they don’t even realize it.
Don’t forget the journalos. Their gig is getting fucked up too by Trump.
The Pres is supposed to give a speech in a small room and it should be very bland and not commit to anything. Then the journalists will come on later and “explain” what he really meant.
Trump just tweets shit out and is pretty blunt. What is a talking head supposed to do with that? They can’t gate keep access to him, they can’t pretend that the message is nuanced and that us rubes don’t get it.
Also, not excusing civil asset forfeiture, but that’s unfortunately a bipartisan problem. Statism is the language of the establishment.
It is a total bipartisan problem. But Sessions seems to have undone the only good think Holder ever did in office.
I think you can fault Sessions for his freak-outs over Da Debil Weed.
The asking for info on various web site users from various web sites? Yeah, that’s not good either. That’s Preet-level bullshit right there, except Preet was never AG.
Just found out from my mom that one of our ancestors comes from pre-Brit Acadia. *heavy sigh* So how’s everyone else doing today?
*hands Gustave the maple syrup*
LOL…hoser!
See, I always knew that I had other Canadians but the only French-Canadian I knew previously was a gr-grandfather that came over from France and not one of those Quebecki types. Also, Canadia doesn’t seem to have any kind of right of return unless one of your immediate family is a Canadian citizen.
You don’t need a right of return, simply walk across the canukistani border with no documents and claim you’re a refugee. Trudy will give you all kinds of stuff to virtue signal.
If the US did slip into out and out political violence, I bet PM Zoolander would slam that refugee door in an instant.
Heh. “Trudy” is a fucking keeper! I’m old enough to have gone to school with at least five “Trudys”! Shortened version of Gertrude (lots o German ex-pats here).
Are you a descendant of the Filles de Roi?
Huh. Apparently not, or at least not immediately from this ancestor. Never heard of them before so reread the email and while there’s a mention of the Filles du Roi, the supposed ancestor was one of the Carignan-Salières Regiment that didn’t marry a Fille du Roi.
One of the best episodes of Who Do You Think You Are was the Tom Bergeron one. It’s where I first heard about the Filles du Roi. It’s fascinating.
Whenever I hear them mentioned I keep thinking that it sounds like Louis just sent them all of his former mistresses and illegitimate daughters…
A local high school – Willoughby South – nickname is Rebels and are now removing their grey-coated mascot from all uniforms, posters, etc.
Over-reaction? I think so. But understandable.
UNLV would probably change their moniker, except nobody gives a shit about UNLV and the alumni put only “University of Nevada” on their resume hoping it will be confused for UNR.
My understanding is that UNLV has a good reputation in civil engineering, architecture, and hotel management.
I’m just kidding, I rag on it because it’s local and everything in southern NV is shit. It’s really no worse than just about any other state school. They’re supposed to be opening a med school in the future, which would be really nice to get a pipeline for residents and physicians here. I nearly attended there, but I didn’t qualify for full residency at the time and the out of state price was a bit too much.
And AnCap economics professors.
Hey, they changed it once already
Back when I was of high school age was when South was pulling the battle flag off of everything. The students were pissed, especially the black athletes. They wanted to keep the flag to make it theirs.
New mascot — Biggs Darklighter!
Porkins!
I still can’t believe they named the fattest pilot “Porkins”.
Surprised it’s lasted this long, honestly. There was just a big to-do here about changing the name of my sister’s old middle school, which was named for Harry F. Byrd, the Virginia senator (and Democrat!) who coined the phrase “massive resistance” to desegregation.
The ACLU will, officially, no longer defend “hate groups” that march with firearms.
“The American Civil Liberties Union, taking a tougher stance on armed protests, will no longer defend hate groups seeking to march with firearms, the group’s executive director said.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/aclu-changes-policy-on-defending-hate-groups-protesting-with-firearms-1503010167
Never mind the denigration of the Second Amendment, what qualifies as a “hate group”?
That may seem obvious in the wake of Charlottesville, neo-Nazis would seem to fit the bill. And yet the ACLU will defend “hate speech” as protected by the First Amendment?
When BLM members, some of which have been known for anti-white rhetoric and violence against police, march while open carrying, will the ACLU defend them?
Can a group of black protesters ever qualify as a “hate group” in the ACLU’s estimation, or is that designation solely for groups of white people?
Ask that other 4 letter acronym organization.
WNBA?
I suspect he means SPLC.
Their designations are notoriously arbitrary.
I know, it was an antiquated joke about the Don Imus thing.
ESPN?
ESJWPN
BATF?
They will never consider BLM a hate group. Basically, the ACLU is saying “the right must unilaterally disarm itself if it wants our help”. fuck them.
Same as it ever was.
I’m just wondering. Can another organization with more consistent principles be created? Say, people like White, Reynolds and Burgess set up a civil liberties law firm, can it achieve what the ACLU doesn’t?
Don’t need to. Shovel money at these guys.
Amen!
Bike locks are still OK, right?
Need a day brightener?
Free Wil…oh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxFfxTZA6ao
My favorite one is the one where they had the ceremony with a band and speeches to release six seals they had spent something around $60K saving after the Exxon Valdez disaster. The green warriors were filming the release of the seals and talking it all op. Then a pod of orcas pops up and gobble all 6 seals up.. Man the greenies all but had aneurysms.
Priceless..
Also knew some chick that set lobsters free in a lake…. Had to explain to her that she killed them in an even crueler way that a pot of boiling beer and spices, cause they are salt water roaches…
It was so nice of them to prepare a meal for us. -Orcas
Red in tooth and claw…
Then there was the bald eagle that was promptly set upon by ospreys…
You know, this seems to happen a lot.
“To me nature is… spiders and bugs, and big fish eating little fish, and plants eating plans, and animals eating… It’s like an enormous restaurant, that’s the way I see it.”
I can’t find a clip of the It’s Always Sunny episode where Dee releases the rabbit that she caught and was going to kill and eat back into the wild, and a hawk snags it 2 seconds later.
BUT IT WAS FUNNY
Goddamn nature!
Would?
THAT. IS. FANTASTIC!
comment from the site:
“”Did the fish not swim because it’s African?””
The worst part is I can’t even gloat about it. Out of the Dbacks rotation, the last guy that I would think would be able to shut out the Astros (or anybody for that matter) was Corbin.
So this weekend I’m taking my kids to a local National Cemetery to visit the grave of their 4th great uncle, a young Union soldier from Illinois who died in battle in the Civil War and is buried here in the South. This was planned before Charlottesville. We only recently found out he was buried here. A thought occurred to me: If he had been born just a little to the southwest, in Arkansas, and died fighting for the South, would going to visit his grave be socially acceptable? Not a Confederate monument, mind you, just the the grave of some poor, young schmuck who happened to die fighting for bad cause, but whose only other option would really be abandoning everything he ever knew to take up arms against his neighbors and family.
I have several Confederate ancestors. With one exception, they were all drafted late in the war, leading me to conclude that they weren’t particularly jazzed about the idea of fighting for the glory of old Dixie.
There’s a family cemetery up in Shenandoah National Park, located about a mile off the Skyline Drive, down a fire road. The family’s home was eminent domained into the park in the 30s, but the cemetery is still there, and the family still has burial rights. Two of the graves are of brothers, or perhaps cousins. Both born in the early 1840s. The stones bear the names, and a unit of the CSA. Company H I believe, of some VA regiment or the other. One of the death dates is 1863. The date doesn’t correspond to a major battle, so I’m guessing it was dysentery or some other sickness. The other death date is decades after the war.
Looking at those stones, imagining two brothers or cousins enlisting together, marching off. Defending their home state. Imagining one of them holding his relatives hand while he shivered with fever. Imagining him loading the body on a wagon to be carried home. Then a long life lived in the mountains, visiting the family plot often. Keeping the grass cropped back, laying rhododendron and mountain laurel on the grave. Quietly praying as the creek gurgles and the whitetail dash through the thickets. Telling his children stories of their relative who died in the war. Laying more relatives in the family plot year by year, but keeping a spot open, right next to his comrade. Always remembering that day when they were young and strong, marching to the sound of the guns. Then finally, the day comes when he is laid down to rest, side by side again with a brother in arms.
This is what they want to destroy.
Well said.
Nice.
Finland Knife Attack
Wolf Blitzer asks if this could be a copy cat of the VA Nazi attack.
Europe has completely fucked themselves.
Re-arm Europe. It’s the only humane thing to do.
The sheep are ready for the slaughter. I don’t think there’s any saving Europe. This is how ‘democratic’ socialism will end. Meanwhile in the USA, people stay blind and ignorant, want the same for here.
I’m more optimistic about America. The fact that Trump exists and is president is living proof that a strong base of Americans don’t buy what the elite are selling. That’s a good sign for the health of our country.
Finns are not on the “disarmed” side of the (granted, European) scale, though.
Might as well be.
Can’t see how that might be a problem…
And yet they have 1.6 million registered firearms in the country of 5.5 million or so. Remember, we’re grading on European scale here!
How many unregistered Mosins are stashed around….who knows?
Others said a young man and woman were stabbed in the back during the rampage.
That one was actually from Merkel.
ZINGER!
“They’re just mad because of our bigotry in not importing more of them. We promise to double our quotas next year!”
/Merkel
Looks like the knife attacker said ‘Allahu Akbar’.
“Isn’t that what Nazis from VA say?”
/Wolfey Poo
“I will not be ignored”
*
boils bunnyknifes innocents*/Islamists
Someone took Hakkaa Paalle literally?
that vid is fascinating. shot and cuffed suspect on the sidewalk with a guy carrying a grocery bag haranguing the shit out of him.
I should probably go document that monument in Madison before the idiot progs tear out an actual grave marker.
I want to sell Al Gore ‘Pant shitting Linus security blankets’.
Also….the CFL joins the virtue signalling ranks with its vapid ‘Diversity is strength’ campaign. Someone should bring Commissioner Ambrosie up to speed and let him in on a secret: The diversity currently being pimped and promoted by corporate board rooms and academia is DISCRIMINATION.
No one disputes the value of a PLURALIST society you uncurious, annoying, bunch of hams. You’re piling on a LIE. What Trump said was not remotely close to being a dog whistle for racists, you’re reacting to a bunch of idiots while not realizing the very group escaping culpability DENIES DIVERSITY OF IDEAS.
CFL joins the virtue signalling ranks
That doesn’t sound like a very bright idea.
*throws lightbulb*
This is from a while ago, but I just found out about it.
Denmark’s Supreme Court has ruled that gay couples who want to be married have a constitutional right to get married in a religious ceremony in a Lutheran church.
http://cphpost.dk/news/lgbt-community-in-denmark-rejoices-homosexual-marriages-in-church-are-not-against-constitution.html
This ruling is complicated by the fact that the Danish constitution designates the Lutheran Evangelical Church as the state church of Denmark–and the church is supported by the taxpayer as such.
Thank goodness for the First Amendment in the U.S. Free exercise and freedom from establishment aren’t sufficient to protect religious liberty–that also requires voters and judges who are committed to the separation of church and state. People should understand it’s a two way street, too. When the church is supported with taxes, the taxpayers get a say in church administration, if and when a church is taxed, with taxation comes a natural inclination for church representation in policy and government.
No, the Danish government probably won’t force mosques to perform gay marriages–because those mosques aren’t supported by government.
It’s hard to tell from the reporting, but it sounds like the court specifically said that if people didn’t like it they could “practice their faith elsewhere” – i.e. a non-taxpayer supported church.
Do they get to not pay their taxes?
It looks like the vast majority of the Church of Denmark’s budget is paid through taxes charged only to members, and that members can renounce their membership and later re-join if they wish. So it looks like the answer is actually yes.
Why can’t the USA be more like Europe? They have healthcare, laws against hate speech, and now no separation of church and state. Progress!
Eddie
You know who else thought they were a martyr…
The stake?
Every Jewish mother ever?
You spelled “Catholic” wrong.
I am not a martyr just because I have irreconcilable differences with a Web site.
A divorce from a Web site is fully in accord with Catholic teaching.
A local high school – Willoughby South – nickname is Rebels and are now removing their grey-coated mascot from all uniforms, posters, etc.
I hope they replace him with a multi-colored triangle.
A related question to any Aussies here–I think we have some?
I want to make sure I properly understand the following:
I’m trying to get my head around the way they handle schools in Australia in terms of tax support. My understanding is that the Australians do things differently. In the U.S., we say the government has no business favoring one religion over another, so we generally don’t allow the state to support any religious schools–everyone treated equally.
In Australia, it appears that in order not to discriminate against religious schools, every religious school is supported by the taxpayers–so that they’re treated the same way as public schools in terms of funding. In other words, if the government were only supporting public schools, that wouldn’t be fair to religious schools–do I have that right?
Anyway, what it boils down to is that the Australian taxpayer is supporting schools that are attached to mosques. Here’s an example:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jan/05/sydneys-malek-fahd-islamic-school-loses-all-federal-funding
It’s kind of tricky and I don’t quite understand how the public school system works (I went to the local state school). In my home state of Queensland, some of these Grammar Schools were approved by act of state parliament. However, today at least, you’re paying pretty substantial fees, e.g.:
http://www.brisbanegrammar.com/Enrolments/Fees/Pages/default.aspx
So I dug a little further and found this:
https://www.education.gov.au/funding-schools
The first sentence: “The Australian Government provides funding for all schools, both government and non-government.”
And from a related news story: “governments invest on average $15,768 per government school student in terms of recurrent costs, the figure for private school students is only $8546.”
Having said that, going to private school stills costs a lot. My first example was a fairly prestigious school, but even more modest ones charge significant fees.
Example: https://www.brigidine.qld.edu.au/enrol/fees-withdrawals/
As the world seems to spiral into complete craziness, this article lays out the why of it pretty well.
There seems to be very little love of Western Civilization these days and lots of utopian ranting.
I wonder how much longer the mainstream press will be able to ignore this now that another impeccably leftist outfit is covering it – Salon is now covering the hack that wasn’t.
Nazis everywhere, man. While that looks bad, let’s not forget about the Nazis.
Come on dude, everyone knows that is now Old News.
If you’re a true believer like the Salon writers are, the Russia story possibly being false is dangerous to their agenda. That’s probably why they’re covering it. I think that the CNNers are a tad more cynical.
They’re preparing for the inevitable letdown that Muleface don’t got nuthin.
Obviously Seth Rich was a Nazi and was killed by a time traveler taking out the next Hitler.
http://www.salon.com/2017/08/15/what-if-the-dnc-russian-hack-was-really-a-leak-after-all-a-new-report-raises-questions-media-and-democrats-would-rather-ignore/
Salon prepares the faithful for the inevitable; Russia really didn’t hack the election and the DNC emails were an internal leak.
If Trump’s a Nazi why did they waste all that time with the Russia shit?
He’s a Russian Nazi?
In the memory of Molotov-Ribentropp pact?
Assange says he has proof that it was a leak, nothing to do with the Russians.
The truth only matters to people who don’t “get it”.
Or maybe I should say, “That Trump is illegitimate and so is his agenda” is the only truth that matters.
Remember when he was pushing hard to eliminate Medicaid?
He’s still deregulating everything he can.
The limited ceasefire in Syria has been holding for about six weeks.
I was really disappointed in seeing those CEO councils disband over Trump’s statements that don’t really matter in the big scheme of things. I’m not big on the infrastructure plan, but to see serious CEOs bail on the administration over a bad PR conference?
Trump’s tweets and public statements are, by far, the least important thing about him, and yet that’s all people want to focus on?
I’m not even sure the demonstrators and the Democrats really oppose what Trump is doing–they’re just opposed to what he says on TV and Twitter.
Someone said the best way to deal with it is, “Trump is to be taken serioulsly, but not literally”
I know that there are some conservatives that blame Trump for the legislative gridlock, but I don’t think that these folks get it. I think the idea is that they believe that his bad PR tendencies undermine his agenda from being passed in the Senate. I disagree: I think that he threatens their gravy train, that’s why they’re gridlocking him.
They focus on his tweets because as you point out, if they talked about the substance, they would have to admit he is doing better than Obama. And that is a truth none of them left or right are going to face.
I get the feeling he’s gonna slash & burn his way through the bureaucracy as fast as he can before he gets impeached or his 4 years are up. I’m still 50-50 on whether he’ll run again in 20.
Romney doubles down (aka ffs Mitt, please shut up).
https://m.facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121
My comment would be: Shut the fuck up, Mittens, you’ll never be president. Go hang out with Hill or something.
These people really seem to live in a parallel universe where they mistake their moronic take on reality for actual reality. I’m glad he lost to Obama.
The schadenfreude was indeed delicious to savor, even though he lost to a shitheel like Obama. He wanted to be prez so bad.
Is Mitt such an idiot son that he doesn’t realize that it is just a matter of time before the Antifa morons do something as bad or worse than what the nut in Charlottesville did and when that happens he and everyone else who has defended them is going to have to answer for it?
“Is Mitt such an idiot etc?”
Yes, yes he is.
Answer for what? They’ve got the media on their side and it will be spun as a lone nut. Or the guy was provoked by evil. Or some other handwaving away.
And that answer will be: “The Nazi started it!”
The Dallas shooting by a BLM supporter has pretty much gone down the memory whole, there’s no reason to think an Antifa murder won’t as well.
As Viking1865 says it, “Every single Republican ‘leader’ has the secret dream of delivering a fantastic, statesmanlike concession speech in a Presidential election.” IOW, Mitt has lived the dream.
Actual LOL
Chinese media mocks India. ShikhNN isn’t happy.
Man, I hope Taiwanese Animated News picks this up!
Also, Indian TV, your response would be better if you countered the Chinese hottie with one of your own. I mean, she’s what, an 8? At best? I know you can do better!
And I doubt it’ll pierce the impenetrable wall of endless Trumpnazihitler coverage the media are engaging in anyway.
Never have we needed a SNP episode more than this moment. BP, get on that shit homie. It should be super easy this time around, since you can verbatim use their words instead of having to lightly touch them up.
(clint raised eyebrow) “That so?”
anyone care to list the names of the victims? we can do a little accounting.
“If you’re in Boston this weekend and want to exercise your First Amendment right, then you must give up your Second Amendment right. Also, you can’t ride a bike. Or drink a soda. Or even take your dog for a walk. I shit you not.”
I’m hoping most dog owners would find an alternative route to walking the dog into the middle of a riot. (Although my dog can handle himself pretty well)
Trump Makes Caligula Look Pretty Good
Someone must’ve posted this already, but just in case.
The left wants open borders…trump wants tight borders
There isn’t chaos and disorder now
What is the economic crisis here?
Last I looked the US military was still there, the state and local governments were still functioning. I don’t care what you think about Trump, how could anyone be that stupid?
Yep the govt was praised for controlling borders in that piece lol
They hate trump for this now
Like I saw below, if Trump were running the Times as a false flag operation, the op eds would likely not be this stupid and crazy for fear of making it too obvious.
The New York Times is reading more and more like Salon.
I would love to know who they think they are going to convince writing shit like that? If Trump were secretly running the Times as a false flag operation to discredit its critics, the op eds in it would likely not be as crazy and stupid as this one. The Trump people running the paper wouldn’t want to make their operation that obvious.
Its not about “convincing”. its about affirmation
which, just as a side note, makes the LP + Cato seem even more retarded, because their whole schtick of late seems to be to try and convince non-libertarians we’re just a different shade of lefty, while telling actual libertarians to go pound sand
The issue is D.C. Is more about a cool kids club and you better be in it
they’ve never been cool kids and never will be
their job (Cato) was to be policy wonks. they never did much in the way of popular outreach before. You could argue that’s the LP’s job. But what Sarwark has done in the last 2 weeks is basically take a weak brand and turn it into a dogshit laughingstock.
their combined “libertarianism.org” thing is a unrecognizable monstrosity that makes the Niskanen Center sound ‘right wing’.
If you are just going to be a weaker version of either party, why would anyone bother joining you? If the most important issue to you is gay marriage and transgender rights and sticking it to Trump, you go join the Democratic Party. It would be like if CATO and the LP suddenly decided that drug laws and prohibition of gambling and prostitution really were not so bad and the only issues that really matter are religious freedom and gun rights. If you think that, you can be a Republican and be a part of a party that actually has power. It is totally pointless and stupid no matter which side you cater to.
The danger for third party movements is that you attract opportunists who can’t make it in the major parties and decide the way to make it is to be a big fish in the smaller pond of a third party. Whether it be Bob Barr, Garry Johnson or this Yahoo, the LP is tormented by that phenomenon.
You’re right that everything in politics is about coalitions of overlapping interests.
they seem to be obsessing with areas of imagined overlap with the left. which seems to me to be the stupidest possible approach to practical policy at the moment. rather than trying to burnish their bona-fides with the “#resistance” they should be trying to weasel their way into congresspeople’s offices and pump long-dormant policy ideas that finally, after decades, actually might have genuine potential for progress.
Trump has done little in his first 1/2 year in office, but he’s already been more ‘libertarian’ than any president in my lifetime. they should be looking for cracks in the door and slipping their ideas in. Not trying to use popular hatred of the guy from the left as a potential fundraising avenue.
If you are just going to be a weaker version of either party, why would anyone bother joining you?
A big part of the Libertarian Party’s problem is that the market has moved on them. Ten, twenty years ago they could say with a straight face that they were sort of like liberals, only more so, in that they supported sexual freedom, free speech, refraining from military adventurism, and not forcing your morals on other people. They could say they were sort of like conservatives in that they believed in free markets, low taxes and small government.
Since then, a lot of grassroots conservatives (especially younger ones) have generally gotten less hostile to libertarians on a lot of those “liberal” things that libertarians differed from them before. Such that, at this point, there really isn’t a huge chasm between grassroots conservatives and libertarians. At the same time, all of those things libertarians shared with the left, the left has abandoned. On sexual freedom, they’re ready to call all heterosexual sex borderline (if not outright) rape. On free speech, they applaud people beating others up for expressing wrongthink. On military adventurism, they’re fine as long as they hold the trigger finger. On not forcing morals, who are bigger moral scolds than the social justice warriors.
All of this puts the Libertarian Establishment in a bit of a pickle. They owe their careers and influence to being something different from conservatives and liberals. And that’s not really possible if the gap between conservatives and libertarians is shrinking while that between the left and libertarians is widening. So they’re trying to reposition the libertarian brand. But, the truth is libertarianism hasn’t really changed, the right has just moved closer to it while the left has moved from it. Repositioning it to benefit the Libertarian Establishment simply winds up meaning becoming not libertarian.
If the goal of the Libertarian Party is to just be an influence over one of the two major parties, then they should shut down and go join whichever party they want to influence. If they want to be a third party, then they need to understand the point of being one. The point of being a third party in a two party system is to be more holy than the pope. You are never going to win elections. So, you don’t try. The point is to lay down an ideologically pure position in hopes that you convince people of some of your positions and that you stand above the partisan warfare and have some credibility when you say things. They have seemed to have totally abandoned that idea and now just want to be the “we like drugs and can sometimes tolerate guns” wing of the Democratic party.
Or, you get elected in one of the two major parties, then when you get enough incumbency switch to the LP. I think that model would have some success: get enough people to do it and you can force the GOP to make a coalition government to pass the agenda.
True but you couldn’t be pure and do that. For example, if Rand Paul did that, he would have to keep some non libertarian positions if he wanted to stay in office.
I actually wouldn’t be so sure: I think a lot of people would favor a little bit of non-orthodoxy even if your electorate doesn’t agree with you on everything. Maybe tone down the “end Social Security” platform a little bit, but anything else I think is fair game.
The only one I see
fuckingbeating dead horses is you, Pauly.Ah, but Caligula fought explicitly religious war!
Also, Suetonius something something fake news. You sure you want to go with this analogy all the way?
On the Gaius side of the ledger, if I, Claudius is to be trusted, he had superior hair (also, John Hurt!)
I didn’t want to click on it, but did any way, because I wanted to see who penned it. Krugman, of course.
In a sane world, here’s the top headline for U.S. news:
Two Former Wasserman Schultz IT Aides Indicted For Conspiracy Against US
But the real question is: are they Nazis?
Probably – the politics of many Muslim countries are indistinguishable from the National Socialists, including the answer to “the Jewish question.”
If they don’t agree Trump is worse than Hitler, they are Nazis. But they are affiliated with Democrats, so probably not.
From the article: “Awan retained Chris Gowen, a longtime aide to former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, to represent him shortly after his arrest. Gowen has claimed in media interviews that Alvi left the country with the children only because of lost jobs and the high cost of living in the nation’s capital. Gowen told the Associated Press that the family lives “in squalor” in Pakistan.”
Good grief. The cost of living in Pakistan must be even higher than in DC if they are living in squalor after absconding with all that money.
The GOP using trump’s behavior as an excuse not to go forward with legislation suggests they were full of chit and don’t want to actually work
They wanted Hil to win so they could whine and complain for 4 years, not deliver any results and live high on the hog with their cronies and lobbyists
Trump made them chit their pants since he is expecting them to do something
+100 Obamacare repeal votes…
“chit”
this is worse than “fug”
Yeah, chit sucks. Just say shit — it’s a perfectly acceptable word.
Chebornek nods in agreement
Fug you!
http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/08/18/slam-dunk-charles-barkley-brings-voice-of-reason-to-monument-debate-brace-for-backlash/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget
Wouldn’t it be nice if every celebrity and famous athlete were as reasonable and level Charles Barkley? The guy once threw a fan into a trash can is now the voice of reason in American sports culture. Crazy times we live in.
I always liked sir charles
Me too. Even the crazy shit he did was just him going after jerk fans who were harassing him. It is not like he was out beating his girlfriend or something. He still should have had more self-control, but I can understand why he did it. And he always played hard. He also had one of the great one liners in sports history. When asked to compare Christian Laitner to Larry Bird Barkley responded: “the only thing they have in common is they both pee standing up.” That was awesome.
My favorite quote from Chuck
My wife met Barkley once. Said he was the most congenial, easy going, celebrity she had ever met and this was when he was in his twenties.
He has that combination of irreverence and self-deprecation that makes him likable.
Anyone read the American nazi party economic platform?
Reads like a prog wet dream
I said yesterday and I stand by it, that if Richard Spencer were black or Hispanic or any color but white, he would be a rock star in the Democratic Party. He would be on the short list for 2020 nominee.
Universal basic income (for white people!)
Single-payer healthcare (for white people!)
All the Abortion and Eugenicism that you want
$15/hr Minimum Wage (for white people!)
Calexit (for white people!)
Say all of that but instead say “for brown people!) and the Democrats would make Spencer a rock star.
Definitely sounds as if they are serious about the socialism in National Socialism.
Nazi = racist* prog
* Racist in a I-don’t-to-want-to-touch-you-with-a-ten-foot-pole way, as opposed to the condescension that many other progs have.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/world/asia/isis-messaging-app-terror-plot.html
Damn, looks like ISIS is getting lessons from the FBI
I think trump should tweet these 3 things:
I condemn the hate, bigotry of the kkk which was started by the democrats
I condemn the national socialist workers party of America (nazi)
I will pardon senator tim kaines son for rioting with antifa
im stealing all of these
He needs to all cap SOCIALIST to make it stand out
I like it, but would tweak it as follows:
Id go with:
I will pardon Virginia DEMOCRAT senator tim kaines son for rioting with antifa to stop people’s from exercising their 1A rights, if the Senator asks me to.
Broadcast news is so bad I had no idea there were two attacks in Spain.
To report that would ruin the narrative. There is also an ongoing knife attack in Finland. Always maintain the narrative- always.
Common sense knife control NOW!!
Clearly inspired by Charlottesville.
Copycat fascist attacks, clearly. This is all on Trump.
Tensions are all very high, domestically and internationally. That’s why you all need to chill out with some tunes.
…they were gonna start going into cemeteries and tearing things down?
Who the fuck feels the need to desecrate graves in a cemetery? What the fuck are these people “Ghouls for Social Justice”?
Anthropologists?
Social Justice Wraiths
NYT stands up for free speech.
This is a dangerous way for any Justice Department to conduct an investigation, especially one involving political speech and association, activities that enjoy the First Amendment’s strongest protections. As the Supreme Court said in a 1958 case, the “inviolability of privacy in group association may in many circumstances be indispensable to preservation of freedom of association, particularly where a group espouses dissident beliefs.” Sweeps like this have the potential to be even more chilling to speech when conducted under a thin-skinned president like Donald Trump, who has already made his intolerance of protest clear.
Free speech for people who protest TRUMPUTIN, anyway. Those Nazis can go suck an egg.
If the incipient ideological purges don’t finally drive developers away from the AppleStore, then I don’t know what will.
Serious journalism
This week the American business community did something virtually unprecedented in its history: It shunned the call to national service by the commander in chief. In the wake of President Trump’s horrifying, un-American equivalence of neo-Nazi storm troopers with the peaceful counter-demonstrators at their weekend rally in Charlottesville, Va., first one, then another, then a flood of chief executives quit his business councils. Now they need to do more.
Umm, yeah whatever dude. Take your meds.
Well, once 1/3 of them bailed, Trump dissolved the business councils, so it looks like nobody liked the idea of being called for National Service.
Wow. That was … inelegant.
Trump, reflecting on the hypocrisy of expecting business leaders to serve the nation’s interest without pay, releases them from the slavery they have been subject to for the last 100 years.
CEOs were slaves for serving on council? Wut
CEOs that benefited from massive cronyism weren’t getting paid?
It was the NYT’s use of the term ‘national service’ – Brit-speak for ‘the draft’.
But as I note, Trump dissolved those business councils himself:
Clearly the actions of a crony capitalist, removing all the other hogs at the trough, so he can have ALL the gains.
Genius.
Counter demonstrators were peaceful…with their bats beating people and makeshift flame throwers
Interesting
Sheryl Sandberg of nyt tweeted that day both were engaging in violence. She got attacked on twitter so she tried to walk it back. Peanut help narrative
And now for something completely different.
Four sets of identical twins – one subway car – one hilarious time travel prank.
THat’s awesome! The other twin videos were fun as well.
Good article from EFF – Cloudflare’s CEO: “Literally, I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn’t be allowed on the Internet. No one should have that power.”
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expression
They seem to get it but then veer off into Net Neutrality. Hey idiots, once government starts regulating it, there’s going to be “reasonable” exceptions carved out backed up by the threat of government action & violence. Just as there is for 1A & 2A.
I think it is funny the net neutrality protests want to keep internet free and open as they call for banning breitbart
Oh, hey…looks like he woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning (again!) and kicked off ghostgunner.net — are they nazis too?
… speaking of which, I need to find an alternative to DigitalOcean …
Part of the work for all of us now is to push back against such dangerous decisions with our own voices and actions.
Hey I’ve got a wild idea. How about beating shitty arguments with better arguments?
I know it sounds like crazy talk. But, it just might work.