Friday Morning Linkses

Goooooood Morning, Gliber-nam! Hope everyone is having a wonderful friday. My kids slept an hour late and later I will help my brother load up for Colorado. So that will be good. I’ll have a reason to go out there and he has friends in The Industry. In SPORTZBALL, the Astros just acquired Justin Verlander, signalling that they will not be happy with a cursory appearance in the ALCS, and picked up a win at the Trop. White Sox and Orioles lose, Twins and Cubbies win. Oh, and there’s some foosball game in Atlanta this weekend. And Sloopy’s team managed to pull away from the class of the B1G last night. Way to stomp on Indiana. And now…. the links!

Federal Probe

Judge orders FBI to release uncensored documents in relation to the Clinton email probe. We’ll see whether this is more stake to the heart or more tempest in teapot. Information that would have been valuable to Americans choosing their government LAST YEAR.

Journalists reflect on perhaps developing ethics after being shamed on live TV, decide that their careers are more important

Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke resigns without explanation. I’m thinking live boy/dead girl (hey, its homophobic to hold people to different standards, but it happens). Alternative theories include Clarke being Obergruppenfurher of the new Southeast Texas Federal Rehabilitation Region. (Not really, I just made that up)

More medals than a Banana Republic dictator

Never let a crisis go to waste. Car makers in Britain are trying their own “Cash for Clunkers” scrappage deals. A private solution, you say, its fine you say. Oh look here at the end…”It comes as tougher emissions tests begin to be rolled out across the European Union on Friday.” Ahhh. So much more subtle than us Americans.

 

Today we will play the Theme Song. And an uplilfting message from a Texas band.

 

Comments

684 responses to “Friday Morning Linkses”

  1. Just a thought not a sermon

    60) There is a woman in my office who has recently dyed her hair purple.

    I estimate she is in her 40s.

    She looks like a clown now.

    I’m not sure if she is aware of this. How can she not be aware of this?

    I can imagine that purple, blue, or green hair could look good. Might even be sexy, or intriguing, or classy, if it looked natural. (I’ve always kind of had a thing for Poison Ivy in the Batman comics.) But in real life I have never, ever seen done it well.

    1. Brett L

      It was more like Alex’s mum in A Clockwork Orange?
      Purple Hair

      1. Just a thought not a sermon

        Yes. Who knows, maybe that’s the look she’s going for?

      2. Timeloose

        Isn’t the dad in that flick the bartender in the shining?

        +1 Moloko +

      3. egould310

        What a beautiful shot. Kubrick is the best.

          1. Custrel

            It blew my mind that all the vietnam scenes were shot in England.

    2. Pat

      I believe that comes in the aging spinster desperately clinging to delusions of youth starter pack

      *cough*ENB*cough*

      1. bacon-magic

        Oh snap

      2. Count Potato

        Isn’t she engaged?

        1. WTF

          Yes, her fiance once commented on TOS to argue a point, and HM sent him scurrying away like a little bitch.

    3. straffinrun

      You hate the color purple. Racist.

    4. PieInTheSKy

      I have a married couple at my office both in their late 40s and with purple highlights in their hair. I don’t get it. Looks ridiculous. Then again I am the kind to judge people about how they look in the office. Being an engineering company R&D center with no customers around, people come to work in shorts, flip-flops, loud t-shirts with prints and slogans. I also dress casually at work – jeans, a plain quality t-shirt or shirt etc – but I am for a minimum of decorum let’s say. Also if I were manager I would not allow shorts sandals flipflops etc

      1. PieInTheSKy

        Also there was a 22 year old hot female intern that came to work one hot August day (and it was sweltering in Bucharest this august) in the shortest close fitting shorts possible. Very distracting and unprofessional really.

        1. westernsloper

          Me thinks you need to change your name from PieInTheSky to StickInTheMud. I myself think 22yr old hot females should wear short shorts as often as possible.

        2. leonadasiv

          “Very distracting and unprofessional really.”

          How dare you, you shitlord! You need to stop objectifying women.

          1. R C Dean

            “Unprofessional.”

            She declined your, err, pay for play proposal?

        3. John Titor

          Pie, who hopes to make Romania as drab and gray as it was in the communist period. Together with UnCivilServant they are…the Fun Police!

      2. Shorts Sandals Flipflops would make a good name for a Beach Boys cover band

        1. Sven Smorgasbord would be a great name for a Jimmy Buffett cover band from Minnesoda.

          That’s all I’ve got this week.

          1. WTF

            Fuck, I don’t know why that made me laugh so damn hard!

        2. Waterfall Insurance

          The Jimmy buffet cover band “Stepped on a pop top” would blow them away.

      3. I’m in my mid-fifties, and I have white highlights in my hair.

        Mrs. Animal says they make me look distinguished.

    5. Count Potato

      “But in real life I have never, ever seen done it well.”

      So we don’t have a secret moonbase to protect us from aliens?

      1. Of course not.

        The Nazis captured it.

        1. That’s where all the confederate statues are being moved to.

          1. Confederate Moon Statues

            Band or Album?

          2. Brett L

            Band is Nazi Space Pirates

    6. Slammer

      Ask her if the carpet matches the drapes.

      1. straffinrun

        The ask her who stole your eggplant from the office fridge.

        1. Count Potato

          Racist!

    7. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Dude, that’s like hoisting the Jolly Roger. It means she’s ready to plunder your booty and swab your deck.

    8. John

      Every woman should understand that when a woman is 20 and hot, they could wear anything short of a burka and still pull it off. The young, thin and hot trumps nearly anything. So when a 40-year-old woman sees a 20-year-old woman with purple hair and thinks “she looks cute”, she needs to realize the young woman looks cute because she is 20 and would look cute no matter what her hair color was. She doesn’t look cute because she has purple hair. So, don’t try this at home.

      1. WTF

        So many women fail to understand this.

      2. Nephilium

        It’s better then the grey hair fad that swept through the younger women a while back. There’s something off seeing someone just over half my age with a full head of grey hair.

        1. Count Potato

          I must have missed that.

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          That was odd. I thought that was some kind of awareness thing, but I never looked into it.

          1. Nephilium

            Nope. Appears to be just a fad.

            /TW: NY Times.

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            Interesting.

      3. Badolph Hilter

        On the other hand, I think a lot of women in the 40’s go through a seriously-don’t-give-a-fuck-what-you-think phase. Maybe she just wants purple fucking hair regardless of whether it makes her more attractive.

        Like middle-age guys and Porsches – I’m not buying one because I think it makes me more attractive to the chickz. I’m buying one because I’ve always wanted one and I honestly DGAF what anyone thinks about it.

        1. Roger Wilco

          Yeah, I think women don’t just dress/makeup/whatever based on how they look to others, but old how it makes them feel. Purple hair might not look good but if it makes her feel hip or young then thats probably good enough

          1. Roger Wilco

            dunno where that extra ‘old’ came from…

          2. Badolph Hilter

            Fruedian slip…

        2. John

          I never understood how buying a sports car was a sign of a middle aged crisis. How could finally having the money to buy something you have always wanted be a life crisis? A crisis is when something bad happens, not when a dream comes true.

          1. Tundra

            It’s only a crisis for those who don’t get to drive a fun car.

          2. John

            It is also very sexist. No one ever says that a woman in their 40s going to a fat farm or taking a trip with her girlfriends to Italy is having a mid life crisis. When women get to live their dreams it is the greatest thing ever. When men do, it is a crisis.

          3. commodious spittoon

            A woman’s life is a constant struggle against patriarchy, so when she does something impulsive and adventurous, it’s liberating. A man’s life is cushioned by all the privileged of patriarchy, so when he does something impertinent and expensive, it’s immature.

          4. commodious spittoon

            (Also why a woman’s suicide is uniquely tragic and Ophelia-like while a man’s is just selfish and cowardly.)

          5. Besides, how the hell do you tow a boat with a sports car?

          6. kinnath

            You buy an SUV and a sports car.

          7. Badolph Hilter

            You park the sports car on the deck of the boat, and tow them both.

          8. pan fried wylie

            Sorry Badolph, the response we were looking for was “james bond car that transforms into a speedboat”.

    9. The Last American Hero

      JATNAS works at Reason?

    10. Bobarian LMD

      As long as the carpet matches the drapes… I’m looking at you, KMW.

      1. Badolph Hilter

        Her eyes are up here, buddy.

  2. I hope that judge has plenty of life insurance.

  3. LH, in continuation of a discussion from yesterday, regarding what I regard as an attractive coin.

    The first thing that came to mind was the reverse of the Late Imperial Rouble*, but not the side with the Tsar’s head.

    Thinking about it some more, I concluded that I don’t like the images of people on coins. The other images that came to mind were buildings, coats of arms and even ships, but not human features.

    It’s a shame too, becuase people have this weird insistance at shoving heads on coinage.

    *This was not a very good image to show off the pattern, but I was in a hurry.

    1. Brasidas

      Bicephalous eagles are the best and should be put on everything.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      I didn’t see yesterday’s discussion, but for me, no contest- the Belgian franc coins pre-Euro. Fine artwork on them.

      Examples

      1. There is a clean simplicity, but the lack of symmetry bugs me.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          How’s that autism treatment coming along?

          1. straffinrun

            He needs a $100.

          2. Symmetry is aesthetically pleasing.

            This is not a trait limited to autists.

          3. Los Doyers

            There there, of course it’s not…
            ::straps UCS to chair and shows him photos of everything unsymmetrical::

          4. Old Man With Candy

            Alex’s right eye is a bit larger than his left eye.

            /hides under desk, sobbing.

        2. SP

          Symmetry can be good, but balance is essential.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      No cocksuckers on any of them!

      1. You’re looking for the Catherine the Great Roubles.

      2. bacon-magic

        Don’t worry they have Canadian coins too Rufus.

    4. bacon-magic

      Spacebugs silver bar…here.

    5. Evan from Evansville

      Last year when my grandfather passed, my brother and I inherited his immense coin collection. I was waiting on visa paperwork for the FBI so I had lots of time. I got really into researching the coins and writing down how much they probably could be worth. Ended up learning a lot about old American coins. He had some Confederate bills as well (that side of the family is from Virginia). I sold most of them but made sure to keep some of them in the family. They were just too cool to sell for 20 bucks or something. Also had a lot of straight silver to sell as well.

      Best coin was one that I wasn’t expecting at all. It was very browned and some of it was hard to read. Couldn’t find much on it. Turned out to be a 1925 Stone Mountain Memorial Coin.

      Normally it’s valuable-ish, but when I showed it to the coin dealer he called over the other guys in excitement. It had a special stamp (I think it was a V but don’t remember) that was very rare.

      Guy gave me $550 for it on the spot. That guy, also named Evan and also a Cubs fan, was a helluva employee. Incredibly knowledgable and always incredibly straight with me. Ended up making $13k from that project.

      1. 1925 Stone Mountain Memorial Coin.

        Can I get some muscle over here?

        *motions to black bloc goons*

    6. pan fried wylie

      “this weird insistance at shoving heads on coinage”

      they’re both round, simple as that?

      1. peachy rex

        For a long time coinage was a way of announcing “Yo, this is the boss right here!” Which of course meant using an image of the ruler. The first thing just about every new Roman emperor did, for example, was to strike off a fresh set of coins with their name and profile to spread the word around that there was a new boss in town.

        There might be an element of that in some places still, like the various charming third world shitholes which wallpaper every vertical surface with portraits of the murderous kleptocrat du jour. In the nicer parts of the world, I would guess it’s just inertia.

  4. Pat

    Nanomachines that drill into cancer cells killing them in just 60 seconds developed by scientists

    Nanomachines which can drill into cancer cells, killing them in just 60 seconds, have been developed by scientists.

    The tiny spinning molecules are driven by light, and spin so quickly that they can burrow their way through cell linings when activated.

    I can’t wait until 5 years from now to find out why this will never work as a functional treatment.

    1. straffinrun

      Gone in 60 seconds. I imagine they look like tiny Nicholas Cages.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Steve McQueen you mean, he actually Drove cars

        1. straffinrun

          You know who else wanted a little Steve McQueen injection?

          1. bacon-magic

            Dragline?

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder
    2. Slammer

      “It’s for killing *airquotes*cancer cells”

    3. WTF

      Because after the cancer cells are gone they start killing healthy cells.

      1. Pat

        Sounds like they can be fairly specifically targeted, and they have to be UV activated to work, so that may not be an obstacle (or at least no bigger than current therapies). I’ve been reading about nano-scale treatments since about 2002 though, and not one of them is in use 15 years on.

        1. The Last American Hero

          So it’s the shark cartilage of the new century?

          1. WTF

            I am pushing 60, and for as long as I can remember the cure for cancer has always been 10 to 15 years away.

          2. Custrel

            Yep. Interferon. Shark cartilage. Vitamin C. etc etc etc.

          3. commodious spittoon

            Shartilage?

            Wait, that’s something else.

        2. pan fried wylie

          only problem is people being opaque to UV. I read about a different light-powered nano-particle treatment a while back, I think it used something in the IR range, and it was only useful for skin cancer because of limited penetration depth. Find a window of transparency, or develop a nano machine you can power with RF.

  5. Just a thought not a sermon

    “Journalists reflect on perhaps developing ethics after being shamed on live TV, decide that their careers are more important”

    That article gets so defensive about halfway through–“News coverage also plays a vital social role in a crisis by providing information that can bind a community together…” and so on. Seems like journalists are sensing some people may not like them.

    1. Why would people believe journalists about where to go and what to do, when these same journalists have been lying about stuff and about people for years?

    2. Suthenboy

      I believe some recent polls show that people hate the press more and trust them less than Congress. That takes some doin’.
      What I find amusing is the outrage and disbelief they display when they are called on their bullshit. They made their own bed and knew exactly what they were doing.

      My advice: If you dont like being called an asshole, stop being an asshole.

      1. Count Potato

        “Who do you think poses a greater threat to the United States — white supremacists or the news media?”

        https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017/08/31/media-bigger-threat-than-white-supremacists/

    3. Slammer

      You can just glimpse a moment of shame and guilt and disgust on the reporter’s face

      1. WTF

        Nah, reporters have no shame. That look was anger at the prole who dared question and criticize her.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Along those lines, it looks like CNN was busted faking, or at least exaggerating the urgency of, a rescue in Houston.

          http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/08/in_houston_is_cnn_that_desperate.html

          Sad.

          1. Count Potato

            It looks like the debunking is being debunked.

            https://www.redstate.com/prevaila/2017/08/31/cnn-accused-staging-air-rescue…by-guess/

          2. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Damn, I’ve been busted spreading fake fake news propaganda.

            Even sadder.

    4. creech

      Bind a community together? So that’s why all the Philly stations just had to send a reporter to Houston instead of using pool reporters or local affiliate reporters.
      Nothing like a plaque of reporters showing up to take scarce hotel rooms, need transport, have to be assigned “baby-sitters” etc. to clog up relief efforts. Meanwhile, back at home
      (places like Chicago) the murder terror goes on and on and, rather than doing anything investigative, the media will put a camera in the face of some politician mouthing platitudes about “setting up a community panel to discuss this problem.”

      1. A plaque of reporters.

        It takes some scrubbing to get them off your teeth.

        1. straffinrun

          You want my comeback? It takes some scrubbing to get them off your teeth.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        And only to report bull shit to fit narratives. It’s how you get them trying to connect events like Harvey to racism and climate change. Instead of engaging in nonsense that people see through pissing them off, focus on the FACTS as they are, report them and GO HOME.

        No need to listen to fucken assholes like Wolf Blitzer wonder about ‘copy cats’ as was the case during his utterly despicable display on CNN. That guy has no dignity. Either is that stupid (which I don’t think he is) or he’s full of shit and was taking orders.

        1. Gerry Rigg

          Either is that stupid (which I don’t think he is)

          Um, did you not happen to see him on

          1. pan fried wylie

            Winning Jeopardy/Trivial Pursuit is just memorization/recall.

    5. Slammer

      From the comments:

      BurbankBob
      2:11 AM EDT
      The real shame is that Flores didn’t get to ask her follow-up question about Melania’s shoes.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        oh that would have been awesome.

    6. Fatty Bolger

      Yeah, I stopped reading it at that point.

    7. commodious spittoon

      Journalists are useless in a crisis. You want reporters reading off sheets handed to them off the telex or teleprinter or fax machine or whatever it is news people use these days.

      It’s like suggesting The View should be our go-to for tornado warnings. Journalists are gabby girls who add nothing of substance to a developing time-sensitive story. They’re worse than useless.

  6. The sheriff of milwaukee just wants to spend time with his family

    1. The sheriff is no longer near?

      1. westernsloper

        And you gave me a narrowed gaze yesterday for………?

        1. Slammer

          I consider a narrowed gaze from Swiss an honor. I wear those internet scars proudly

      2. Custrel

        +1 Rockridge

    2. Count Potato

      He was on TV so much, I wondered how he found the time to be sheriff.

  7. ChipsnSalsa

    Journalists reflect on perhaps developing ethics after being shamed on live TV, decide that their careers are more important

    But Shapiro says reporters need to seek “small gestures of permission” from people in such circumstances.

    Not enthusiastic consent?

    1. Just a thought not a sermon

      “Small gestures of permission” sounds completely Polanski-ian.

      1. WTF

        “She was not unresponsive.”

    2. If this is concerning the video of the,lady asking “What the **** wrong with you?” then I think they might ought to have offered the lady some water and a sandwich before shoving a microphone in her face.

      1. My only nitpick is why was the woman standing there with her kids waiting for the reporter to interview her? … walk away.

        1. WTF

          Because she wanted to give the ghoul reporter a piece of her mind, I’m guessing.

  8. Pat

    McCordsville teacher asks first graders to stop talking about God at school

    MCCORDSVILLE, Ind. – Parents of McCordsville Elementary School students are upset after a first grade teacher sent home a letter asking kids not to talk about “God,” “Jesus,” and the “Devil.”

    1. She must really want more talk of God, Jesus, and the Devil.

    2. straffinrun

      “With Mccordsville Elementary being a public school, we have many different religions and beliefs, and I do not want to upset a child or parent because of these words being used.”

      “Jesus Fucking Christ!”
      “Jimmy, we don’t say the J or C word at school.”

      1. Since you used the name “Jimmy”, I am now hearing the phrase in Jimmy Stewart’s voice.

        1. pan fried wylie

          a 12yr-old morph of jimmy stewart, a la the simpsons.

    3. Count Potato

      “we have many different religions and beliefs, and I do not want to upset a child or parent because of these words being used”

      Preparing them for the real world?

      1. leonadasiv

        So I imagine anyone mentioning Allah,Yayweh, Zeus, Thor, or Mazda are also being asked to stop?

        1. You forgot earth, government and ‘the people’

          1. Gadfly

            But that’s the state religion, so it’s ok.

        2. Count Potato

          I never realized the Rotary Club was a church.

        3. pan fried wylie

          *throws stone prematurely before ducking back into the stoning throng*

  9. PieInTheSKy

    I have never till this day read bbc in pidgin

    https://www.bbc.com/pidgin

    1. BBC once again proves itself to be a bastion of racism and condescention.

      In other news, dog bites man.

      1. straffinrun

        Di jollification dey be givin us be walhalla.

      2. Count Potato

        How is it racist or condescending?

        1. Pidgin is not itself a language, it is a halfway between the native languages and English, and this venture implies that their potential audience would not be able to finish learning English. It reads as going “Oh, you’ve gotten as far as your poor capability will let you, here, lets dumb this down for you.”

          What’s worse is they’re offering the native languages as well. Though it could be that the BBC is too stupid to realize that pidgin is a “good enough” kludge created at the boundary line between two languages that tends to fade over time as fluency in both directions increases and the loanword exchange is completed.

          1. Count Potato

            “Pidgin is not itself a language”

            Of course it is. And I don’t see how, “this venture implies that their potential audience would not be able to finish learning English.”

            I think you might be getting this impression from reading it, rather than hearing it.

          2. Caput Lupinum

            Technically, pidgin isn’t a language, but a classification for languages. I’m annoyed that they don’t differentiate the Nigerian pidgin from other pidgins, not so much that they offer articles in Nigerian pidgin.

          3. Count Potato

            Yes, although if I pointed out Jamaicans broadcasting in Patois not being racist. You would know what I meant, not patois as catch-all for a bunch of different languages.

          4. Custrel

            “Pidgin is not itself a language,”

            I’m going to leave this right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqJI7SdS9Gg

            This guy’s channel, Langfocus, has some really interesting videos if you are interested in languages.

    2. Suthenboy

      Let me guess, the broadcast version has a white newscaster in black-face reading the pidgin version on camera.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      BBC dey special.

        1. The Elite Elite

          Oh, God. This is so sad, yet so hilarious at the same time! Are you guys trying to get me to regularly go to the BBC? Because a “news” organization legit publishing articles in broken English is too damn funny.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            This has totally killed my productivity today. Fucking Romanian asshole.

            The woman wey dey for her 20’s don dey married to her husband for five years, but na for inside bush she dey poopoo.
            Indian law dey only allow divorce for limited circumstances like beating or wicked behaviour.
            The lawyer for di woman tell AFP news agency say the judge say to dey make di woman poopoo for outside na one form of torture.

          2. PieInTheSKy

            I aim to please

          3. Apples and Knives

            Me too. Just reading the headlines in the side bar has put me out of commission for about 30 minutes:

            “Why dem dey call Hurricane human being name”

            “Indian woman divorce husband because dem no get toilet”

            “Why China dey chop African Donkey”

            Why, China? For the love of God, why did you chop that donkey?

          4. Custrel

            “Why China dey chop African Donkey”

            T-shirt worthy.

        2. Gadfly

          lol

          Teachers for southern Cameroun sef don join di matter as dem say dem don tire to dey see as government dey send teachers wey na only French dem sabi go English school. Dem say dis don cause situation wey children dey learn wrong things for school.

          Is it April 1st? Or do people really learn to read/write like that somewhere in the world?

          1. Shouldn’t the press release be in Pidgin?

          2. They’re not advertising it to the Pidgin speakers, they’re signalling “Hey, look at how multiculturally inclusive we are” to their commie buddies.

    4. The Elite Elite

      Wait, what? The hell is this?

      1. Diversity!

        *ranbow forms*

    5. Old Man With Candy

      That is… remarkable.

    6. Count Potato

      “The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) on Monday launched the first of six African language services announced in November 2016 expansion plans.

      Nigerian pidgin, losely referred to as ‘broken English’ is the new language service for the BBC’s digital platforms. It is the first fully digital language service for Africa. It is targeted at an estimated 75 million speakers and readers across West and Central Africa.

      Pidgin even though not officially recognised is one of the most widely-spoken languages especially across Nigeria. It is one of the main languages used in most films in its booming movie industry, Nollywood.

      Back in November 2016, the BBC listed six African languages as part of its biggest expansion drive since the 1940s. Nigeria and Ethiopia were the biggest beneficiaries of the announcement.

      Africa’s most populous nation had three languages in the list: Pidgin, Yoruba and Igbo. Whiles Ethiopia also contributed the remaining: Amharic, Afaan Oromo and Tigrinya.

      Already, Hausa – a widely spoken language in northern Nigeria and parts of Chad and Niger has been on the BBC Africa service list for years now.”

      http://www.africanews.com/2017/08/22/bbc-pidgin-broken-english-service-starts-for-west-and-central-africa/

      1. Homple

        Over/under on when the agitation for Ebonics starts.

        How about Arkansas Cracker dialect?

    7. The Elite Elite

      So, would this be the Kangz English?

      1. Custrel

        I’m speechless.

      2. Custrel

        Now I want to see the movie The Kangz’ Speech.

  10. PieInTheSKy

    Only children’s books with humans have moral impact, study finds

    Undercutting the ageless tradition of sugaring ethical lessons with endearing animals, new research suggests human protagonists are needed to change behaviour

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/sep/01/only-childrens-books-with-humans-have-moral-impact-study-finds

    In the Canadian study, researchers read one of three stories to almost 100 children between four and six years old: Mary Packard’s Little Raccoon Learns to Share, in which anthropomorphic animals learn that sharing makes you feel good; a version of the story in which the animal illustrations were replaced with human characters; or a control book about seeds.

    Before they were read the story, the children chose 10 stickers to take home and were told that an anonymous child would not have any stickers to take home. It was suggested to the children that they could share their stickers with the stickerless child by putting them in an envelope when the experimenter was not looking. After they had been read the story, the children were allowed to choose another 10 stickers, and again asked to donate to the stickerless child.

    The study, which has just been published in the journal Developmental Science, found that those children who were read the book with human characters became more generous, while “in contrast, there was no difference in generosity between children who read the book with anthropomorphised animal characters and the control book; both groups showed a decrease in sharing behaviour,” they write.

    1. The control book was about seeds. I’d fail to give away free stickers, too, if I had to sit through a reading of a book about seeds.

      What would be interesting would be to judge the children’s relative levels of generosity if they had to do something to earn the stickers.

    2. Just a thought not a sermon

      I hated books about sharing when I was a little kid. I could tell it was bullshit. I liked Dr. Seuss, who may have had moral lessons but was all about entertaining writing first. I also liked books with Snoopy in them.

      1. Just a thought not a sermon

        I just had a blinding flash of memory about how much I hated “The Pokey Little Puppy” and that it seemed like adults in my life were always trying to read it to me.

        1. thom

          It’s one of those things that adults think is magical for children but that all children hate. Like Peter and the Wolf.

          1. spqr2008

            I like Peter and the Wolf, but I’m a weird person anyways, and the fact that my dad worked at Cincinnati Music Hall during the heyday of the Cincinnati Pops orchestra, and got a lot of tickets for me for kids shows probably influences that.

      2. Hans Landa

        Fun fact: I actually rooted against the Lorax as a kid.

        1. It bugs me – why didn’t what’shisname try to figure out how to plant the trees so he would have an endlessly renewable supply of the materials he was making his fortune from? (It’s been to long and I can’t be arsed to look up Seussian names)

          1. The Last American Hero

            Because the Onceler is an evil corporate man, and only concerned about next quarter’s profits, duh.

            He also didn’t save much money from the thneeds, since he’s living in a shack on the outskirts of town where the grickle grass grows instead of in a high rise or sitting poolside with his Victoria’s Secret girlfriend.

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            He did enrich a lot of people selling thneeds, including employing many people in his factory.

          3. mexican sharpshooter

            The Once-ler.

            My kids have all his books. My preference is Yertle the Turtle, it has a excellent message.

        2. CatoTheElder

          My childhood favorites were The Boy Who Cried Wolf, Chicken Little, and the Emperor’s New Clothes, a few of Aesop’s Fables, and Alice in Wonderland. Seriously.

          Very profound messages in those stories. Unfortunately, not many people actually learn them.

          I never much liked Dr Suess because his stories seemed like so much nonsense.

    3. Slammer

      Undercutting the ageless tradition of sugaring ethical lessons

      They’re asking for Sugar Free ethical lessons???

      Brave move.

      1. SugarFree’s Stories for Kids

        Available where finer books are sold.

        *Counselling services sold separately.

        1. bacon-magic

          *dilates pupils*

          1. Old Man With Candy

            That’s my job, asshole.

          2. bacon-magic

            It is the job of moon rocks.

      2. There is a fine line between wrecklessness and courage.

        1. And that is so reckless, the line is no longer within a day’s walk.

    4. hate_speech

      Let’s just take a moment to appreciate a social science study actually using a control.

    5. Homple

      The first problem here is that somebody wants kids’ literature to “change behavior”.

      No procreating wonder that kids would rather play video games than read. Video games don’t preach.

  11. Brett L

    TOS has an article about idiot city council members in a city adjacent to mine wanting to force homeowners to install solar panels on their roofs, at least for new construction. I priced this out because I have a pretty good sized home to air condition and the electricity ain’t cheap. Still, to get back to a positive ROI in 10 years or less was basically impossible. Given that (a) many people don’t live in their homes for 10 years and (b) my house was built 50 years ago, and newer homes probably cost 2/3rds what mine do to cool, when you start doing the math, solar would have to cost less than half what it does now to be viable.

    1. straffinrun

      Should’ve bought from Solyndra. They made up their losses with volume.

    2. J. Frank Parnell

      Well then, obviously we need more government subsidies to bring down the cost.

  12. westernsloper

    Clinton email probe

    For some reason I find it a bit disturbing to see the words, Clinton and Probe, in such close proximity to each other.

    1. Brett L

      Hi Monica, thanks for doxxing yourself.

    2. Lachowsky

      Lay off the SF and you’ll be fine in two weeks.

  13. Jefe Hayek

    Fucking fleas. How the fucking fuck do you get fleas with an indoor only cat?

    Well, my first Saturday of college football will be spent Lord knows where while the exterminator poisons my apartment. Do you think he would take a $20 to triple the chemical treatment; health affects be damned? I really want those fuckers dead

    1. PieInTheSKy

      spores got in the window

    2. Rats in the walls.

      1. Slammer

        +1 Exham Priory

    3. bacon-magic

      You are the carrier. It’s all that strange pussy you been around. *high fives* (1st attempted high five on the internets)

      1. Jefe Hayek

        *narrows five*

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      Sounds like a job for a flame thrower.

      1. straffinrun

        Milo is known for causing fires.

    5. Just Say’n

      Get rid of that cat. I’ve had dogs living in my house forever and I’ve never gotten fleas. *Scratches furiously* Yup, no fleas.

    6. Yusef drives a Kia

      Just get a flea bomb, don’t pay for that Bullshit Pest control guy.
      They work great and you can double Bomb if you want, I HATE FLEAS! and I have a dog and a cat, no fleas.

      1. Jefe Hayek

        Meh, it’s only like $25 bucks more to have the professional come in and do it. You’re right that there’s probably no difference (I’ve already sprayed the carpet with some shit I bought at pet smart last night, like soaked it), but piece of mind and all that.

        1. Jefe Hayek

          *peace

          1. What do you call a convivial treaty among donkeys?

          2. WTF

            Peace of ass?

          3. Yes. A nice one.

        2. Suthenboy

          The pest control guy wont get rid of them. They treat the house and kill all of the adult fleas but the eggs hatch out later and the larva develop etc. Thats what makes them such a bitch to get rid of.

          Get the advantage drops from the vet’s office. It kills them like crazy and not just on the cat. Anywhere the cat goes it kills them and as they hatch out and seek the cat out… you get the idea. It is the only thing I have ever found that works.

          1. Jefe Hayek

            I frontlined the cat last night as well as spraying most of the carpet. The insecticide should kill the hatching adults, no? That is, vacuum consistently for two weeks to awaken the larvae that then come in contact with the insecticide.

            I don’t know, again, peace of mind is worth a lot

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I frontlined the cat last night as well as spraying most of the carpet.

            These euphemisms…..

          3. Jefe Hayek

            I’m married now. All sex ended the morning after the wedding if what I’ve been told by 3 camera sitcoms is to be believed*

            * And I do believe 3 camera sitcoms

          4. The Last American Hero

            You need to stop watching 3 camera sitcoms and start watching single camera internet porn. The protagonist of those stories has sex with a wide variety of women.

    7. “Kitty, is there anything you need to tell me?”

      “Meow?”

      1. Jefe Hayek

        Poor thing. Felt like I broke our unspoken contract: I keep her away from fleas, bigger predators, etc. and she doesn’t act like an asshole cat.

        Worked out pretty good until I let fleas get in the house

        1. Brett L

          Don’t you have a wife to blame now?

          1. If your wife gets fleas, take her to the vet, pronto.

          2. Jefe Hayek

            If your wife gets fleas, take her to the vet dump, pronto.

            Loud and clear!

          3. If you go to the dump, you’re likely to get even more fleas, silly buns.

    8. It was you. You have fleas because you caught them, you filthy, filthy animal.

    9. Suthenboy

      Mice, squirrels etc bring them in. It only takes one. I switch back and forth between Advantage and Frontline and one other I cant remember. It kills the hell out of them. I figure if I keep switching up they wont be able to develop immunity.

      I should have done the same thing with fire ant poisons. I didn’t and after 7 years the little fuckers just laugh at Amdro.

      1. robc

        If I had a genocide spell, fire ants would no longer exist.

        1. John

          It is hard to think of a better candidate for such a spell. Other things like mosquitos do a lot of harm but they are also vital parts of the food chain and larger environment. Fire ants serve absolutely no positive purpose.

          1. The Last American Hero

            Until the day comes when it’s time to bring back the boats.

          2. Not Adahn

            Ticks

        2. Custrel

          Fascist! Ants are socialism entomonified

    10. TK

      *scratches behind ear with back leg*

    11. Q Continuum

      The key? Don’t live in a humid climate!

      Aside from an ill conceived two-year sojourn on America’s Wang, I have lived in arid climates my whole life and none of my pets have ever gotten fleas. (knocks on wood)

  14. PieInTheSKy

    Two dozen corpses believed to be the bodies of Rohingya women and children have washed up on a Bangladesh riverbank as fears grow of atrocities committed by Myanmar forces against the Muslim minority across the border.

    In the deadliest violence in decades, nearly 400 people have been killed in a week of fighting in Myanmar’s north-west Rakhine state after Rohingya insurgents attacked security forces and the military responded with a huge counter-offensive.

    Close to 38,000 Rohingya have fled their villages and attempted to cross into Bangladesh, according to United Nations estimates. World powers have warned Aung San Suu Kyi’s government to avoid killing innocent civilians.
    Analysis Pope’s Myanmar visit may be the help Aung San Suu Kyi needs
    Accused of not doing enough to curb persecution of Rohingya Muslims, the Burmese leader may be hoping divine intervention can win her breathing space
    Read more

    The latest outpouring of refugees comes amid reports of ethnic violence from an activist group with a presence in the conflict area, accusing Myanmar security forces and Buddhist vigilantes of killing 130 Rohingya in the village of Chut Pyin.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/01/fears-mount-of-myanmar-atrocities-as-fleeing-rohingya-families-drown

    Because Myanmar does not have enough problems without a bit of ethnic and religious violence …

    1. Yeah, that’s not gonna end well for both parties, especially if Burma starts to get more ISIS type freaks.

    2. Suthenboy

      You know things have gone to shit when people flee TO Bangladesh.

    3. SP

      “Buddhist vigilantes”

      Hmm….

      1. Brett L

        Are you implying that Kung Fu wasn’t a documentary series?

  15. straffinrun

    Was talking to lefty friend of mine. I mentioned how Iceland had virtually eliminated newborns with Down’s syndrome. He points out if you could terminate a pregnancy because the child has some horrific disease, wouldn’t you want to do that to save the kid from a lifetime of misery? I said, “OK, well if being born a woman or minority is such a painful existence today, you want to abort them, too. You’re the real ethno stater.” Yes, the logic was warped on my part, but I really wanted to see him squirm.

    1. Just Say’n

      ENB at TOS said that doing this was totally different from eugenics (without any explanation why that is, of course). Three generations of imbecile is enough, of course, which we have never heard before and no people accused of genocide have ever used that as a defense in any international trial or anything. This is known

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I think it’s less eugenics and more anti-natalism.

      2. leonadasiv

        It’s sick because these people make themselves the judges of other people’s happiness. Most people I’ve met with Downs Syndrome are generally happy.

        1. leonadasiv

          Or so they seem

        2. ChipsnSalsa

          Way happier than most people.

          A camp we have helped out at is for mentally and physically disabled. The director is a bigger guy and he always says “I have a body that the downs syndrome ladies love”. It’s true.

          1. Gadfly

            Way happier than most people.

            Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

        3. westernsloper

          It is super sick. The fact some people think they should have that power to just kill someone because they do not meet their perceived standard is god damn disgusting. Anyone who has volunteered at a Special Olympics can tell you downs folks are most often having a great time. I understand it can be a challenge for some people but that does not give the right for the Top Men to murder them.

        4. Roger Wilco

          I would wager the families of folks with Downs (and other disabilities, although it would highly depend on the disability) are more likely to like their life with the disabled child, also. Anti-natalism is right, and thats fine; just admit you don’t want to go through the work of having children. Its all hard work, disabled or not (I’m guessing…)

          1. Custrel

            Interestingly I read recently that “in the last several years, the average IQ of a person with Down syndrome has increased. In people with Down syndrome, 39.4% are in the mild intellectual disability range of 50-70, and 1% in the borderline intellectual function range of 70-80 (average IQ in the general population is 70-130).”

      3. John Titor

        Down’s syndrome patients are overwhelmingly sterile, so it’s not like they muck up our genetics in the long run or anything.

    2. Just a thought not a sermon

      “eliminated newborns with Down’s syndrome. He points out if you could terminate a pregnancy because the child has some horrific disease, wouldn’t you want to do that to save the kid from a lifetime of misery?”

      There may be some genetic diseases that sentence you to a lifetime of misery, I don’t know. But Down’s Syndrome isn’t it. The Down’s folks I’ve known are almost uniformly among the happiest people I’ve ever met.

      1. Just Say’n

        And some of the most decent. I don’t mean to be all religiousy and shit, but their innocence bears the face of God. Humanity should not be reduced to mental capacity. This is barbarism plain and simple

      2. Fatty Bolger

        A high school friend of mine had a sister with Down’s, and she was one of the happiest, sweetest people I have ever met.

        1. tarran

          Terrible! She’s too cognitively disabled to even recognize how miserable she is! Clearly someone needs to put her out of her misery!

    3. american socialist

      Why is the assumption that people with Down syndrome live a life of misery?

      1. Brett L

        Because the truth that it is inconvenient and expensive and difficult for the parents is less attractive?

      2. leonadasiv

        I don’t know. The only group of people I know who seem to be uniformly miserable is leftists.

        1. straffinrun

          Leon gets it. Run with that. It’s fun.

        2. Abort them all!

        3. Slammer

          Liberalism. Find a cure

          1. Gadfly

            One quibble: shouldn’t it be red? I don’t know what the color significance of the ribbons is, but if blue doesn’t have a disease connotation that red, as the color of international socialism, would seem more appropriate.

            Bravo, by the way, that gave me a good chuckle, nit-picking aside.

      3. thom

        Common among progressives is a fear of being “simple.”

      4. CatoTheElder

        The reality is that the parents of a retarded child, and eventually the child’s siblings, do indeed face a lifetime of challenges.

        It is self-deception to argue that the abortion of a Down Syndrome child is for the good of the child.

    4. TK

      If the lady happens to have the litter near me, which is not often, I kill all of the babies purely for territorial reasons.

  16. PieInTheSKy

    Dr Con Man: the rise and fall of a celebrity scientist who fooled almost everyone

    Surgeon Paolo Macchiarini was hailed for turning the dream of regenerative medicine into a reality – until he was exposed as a con artist and false prophet

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/sep/01/paolo-macchiarini-scientist-surgeon-rise-and-fall

    1. Oh, on that headline, I thought it was going to be one of these “science” celebrities people keep praying to.

    2. leonadasiv

      No,I don’t believe people would blindly believe something, just because someone says it has science backing it up.

      1. John

        “Regenerative Medicine” is almost to the biomedical field what the perpetual motion machine is to physics. Any claim to have achieved it should be viewed very skeptically. Yet, people seem to be more inclined to believe such claims.

    3. Brett L

      ” I have an M.D. from Harvard, I am board certified in cardio-thoracic medicine and trauma surgery, I have been awarded citations from seven different medical boards in New England, and I am never, ever sick at sea. So I ask you; when someone goes into that chapel and they fall on their knees and they pray to God that their wife doesn’t miscarry or that their daughter doesn’t bleed to death or that their mother doesn’t suffer acute neural trama from postoperative shock, who do you think they’re praying to? Now, go ahead and read your Bible, Dennis, and you go to your church, and, with any luck, you might win the annual raffle, but if you’re looking for God, he was in operating room number two on November 17, and he doesn’t like to be second guessed. You ask me if I have a God complex. Let me tell you something: I am God.”

      1. R C Dean

        Citations from medical boards generally mean you fucked up, but not bad enough to lose your license.

    4. Old Man With Candy

      Physicians are NOT scientists.

      1. Q Continuum

        BOOM! Facialized.

  17. Count Potato

    “John Legend knows firsthand how damaging toxic masculinity can be.

    The singer-songwriter recently sat down with Cosmopolitan to discuss his partnership with AXE for their Find Your Magic Initiative, a project launched in May that aims to challenge toxic masculinity and show there’s no one way to be a man. Legend has consistently spoken out about feminism and the problematic nature of strict gender roles ― and his interview with Cosmo was no different.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-legend-toxic-masculinity-means-men-are-constantly-policing-themselves_us_59a56a80e4b050afa90caf09

    I’m no biochemist, but if you are against “toxic masculinity” maybe you shouldn’t hawk cheap cologne that smells like diesel?

    1. leonadasiv

      I thought AXE was the essence of toxic masculinity.

    2. Pat

      Yeah, pretty sure Axe and Old Spice are the actual non-bullshit definition of “toxic masculinity”

      1. straffinrun

        I have fond memories of the Old Spice smell. Reminds me of my slutty sister.

        1. The classic Old Spice scent makes me think of Christmas.

          1. straffinrun

            Was my sister the present?

          2. Maybe. Was your sister’s name “Nintendo Entertainment System”?

          3. Pat

            Roses are red
            Violets are blue
            Press start
            And be my player 2

        2. Evan from Evansville

          Pics or it didn’t happen.

          1. Evan from Evansville

            Wellp. Bunk. Me. In it.

          2. Gadfly

            Lol. That’s cheesy, on-point advertising:

            “Girls like it. Is there a better reason to wear Old Spice?”

            Makes me think that if the same ad-men who wrote that were alive today, the tag line would be:

            “Old Spice: It’ll get you laid”

          3. WTF

            “Old Spice: DTF.”

          4. What does the Department of Tax and Finance have to do with this?

        3. The Elite Elite

          Slutty sister? Is there a SugarFree story somewhere in there?

      2. leonadasiv

        I mean, I feel like I’m going to die whenever I smell AXE body spray…

      3. The Elite Elite

        Hey, you take that back. Old Spice is awesome!

    3. Slammer

      Challenges toxic masculinity, marries a model.

      1. A toddler-faced “model”

        1. Q Continuum

          But those titties…

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      Well that settles it, I can’t buy that stuff anymore. I guess I’m stuck buying Aqua Velva.

      1. thrakkorzog

        Hai Karate or GTFO.

        1. MikeS

          Discerning gentlemen wear Brute

  18. ChipsnSalsa

    Gonna tread on JATNAS territory here…

    Craigslist has possibly done more to “save the Earth” that many of the “save the Earth” groups out there.

    Craigslist allows sellers to connect with buyers in such a tremendously easy way that it has allowed items that previously would have been tossed in the garbage / recycled to be sold to another person for continued use. Example today is my old fridge, about 10 years old and the defrost wasn’t working quite as well as it should so the freezer would frost over after a number of months and would then continually run as it couldn’t cool properly. Get that thing out of the house and time for a new fridge. Posted it on craigslist for 80 bucks and it was gone it two days to a construction crew who needed something to keep their lunches cool in the job trailer. They get a full size fridge for about the same cost as a mini fridge, I get eighty bucks and for the for the icing on the cake Uncle Sam gets zero.

    No new product needed.

    1. bacon-magic

      ^61)

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Ah, the free market. Is there anything it can’t do?

      1. Let me be an autocrat?

    3. But the energy that old-ass fridge is using is killing Mother Gaia!!!!!!!!!111!!!!

      1. But Enough About Me

        That bitch has already killed over 100 billion of us. She’s gettin’ what she deserves, good ‘n hard.

        1. peachy rex

          +1 Mr Burns ranting about “re-cyc-ling?”

    4. Q Continuum

      Not to mention the trees they save rendering the classified section useless.

  19. PieInTheSKy

    Research with more than 135,000 people across five continents has shown that a diet which includes a moderate intake of fat and fruits and vegetables, and avoidance of high carbohydrates, is associated with lower risk of death.

    To be specific about moderate, the lowest risk of death was in those people who consume three to four servings (or a total of 375 to 500 grams) of fruits, vegetables and legumes a day, with little additional benefit from more.

    As well, contrary to popular belief, consuming a higher amount of fat (about 35 per cent of energy) is associated with a lower risk of death compared to lower intakes. However, a diet high in carbohydrates (of more than 60 per cent of energy) is related to higher mortality, although not with the risk of cardiovascular disease.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829091027.htm

    1. Pat

      I’m thoroughly convinced after reading a couple of books, a dozen or so studies, and about 60 million articles and executive summaries in the last few months since I found out I have high cholesterol that all dietary advice is utter and complete guesswork at best, and there probably hasn’t been a single replicable study in the entire history of the field.

    2. Suthenboy

      I hate to tell those researchers but their study is flawed.

      The risk of death is still holding firm at 100%.

      1. hate_speech

        + Long enough timline

        1. hate_speech

          Timeline!

    3. The Last American Hero

      Or you could just drink 6 cups of coffee a day. I read that works too.

      1. Fatty Bolger

        I drink 12 just to be on the safe side.

  20. robc

    At half time, I was really hoping to troll sloopy this morning with a “howmanydayssinceindianabeatohiostate” = 1. But then reality set in in the 2nd half.

    1. It took a while. I wonder if they were holding back the full playbook for Oklahoma but abandoned that plan when it looked like they’d be fortunate to win the game how they were playing.

      Either way, I was not amused at halftime.

      1. robc

        I posted a suicide watch for you on the thread last night.

      2. Not an Economist

        I watched a fair bit of the first half, I saw Indiana completing passes even when the guy was covered. Plus Ohio State was beginning to run the ball well. So I wasn’t surprised when Ohio State came back and won.

  21. We only kill black people
  22. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/greg-abbott-cobb-county-police-officer-seen-on-video-telling-motorist-we-only-shoot-black-people/

    He was clearly being sarcastic in response to what the woman said and he got fired for this. Can’t say whether this guy was a good cop, but this wasn’t a termination worthy offense. The media should focus on cops committing actual abuses. Sensationalism like this is going to drive away potentially good candidates leaving room for more shit heads to become cops.

  1. LJW

    Damn HTML edit fairy I need you!

    1. *edit fairy struggles and flies off*

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Edit fairy had to much to eat last night?

  2. straffinrun

    Sarcasm or a BLM supporter. Who knows?

  • John

    The heroism shown by ordinary Texans has been a great antidote to the prejudices expressed by well-off liberals towards ‘deplorable’ Americans. The politically correct view is that white folks are irredeemably racist, and the country is inescapably divided by race, yet the images from Houston told a different story: a black deputy sheriff wading through floodwaters with a white child in each arm; a white SWAT officer carrying a Vietnamese-American woman and her baby through floodwaters; three Asian and Hispanic constables moving an elderly woman in a wheelchair.

    As it happens, this was not exceptional: as anyone who has travelled through Texas and the South will know, social interactions between people of different backgrounds are casually pleasant. Unlike PC liberals, most people don’t see life through a prism of racial categories. In response to Harvey, we didn’t see the ‘diversity’ of essentially different people – we saw citizens helping citizens, Texans helping Texans.

    http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/we-need-more-texas-attitude-and-less-pc/20275#.WalX1dKGOUn

    When did Spiked become a reasonable news outlet? How did this happen?

    1. american socialist

      Liberals are obsessed with their status and words. There isn’t actual substance

    2. PieInTheSKy

      I have occasionally read spiked over the last couple of years and they always had some reasonable articles

    3. leonadasiv

      What about all the regular people (i.e not cops) who were helping?0

      1. Evan from Evansville

        Don’t talk about sloopy that way.

        Too local.

    4. Whoever posted the video of the dude with a pickup truck defending the “Ayrab” grocery store from looters with a shotgun, pretty sure that’s far less likely to happen if a massive flood like that happened in DC or NYC.

      But looting the grocery store is okay with some people that have written articles for Reason Magazine in the past.

      1. John

        If that happened in DC or NYC, the rich liberals would have the cops barricade their neighborhoods and leave everyone else to the four winds.

        1. Brett L

          I’m sure there’s lots of relevant footage from Sandy still around.

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          If a flood happened on Martha’s Vineyard the Kennedys would probably go out on their boats drunk to laugh at people.

    5. wdalasio

      The heroism shown by ordinary Texans has been a great antidote to the prejudices expressed by well-off liberals towards ‘deplorable’ Americans.

      It was. But, I think it served another purpose as well. It reminded a lot of sane Americans that the world wasn’t entirely turned upside down. Popular culture doesn’t reflect what you saw in Houston. The public gets inundated with stories about how the right way to be is clever or hip or part of the PC in-crowd. Probably to the extent that nice, normal, sane decent people think they’re wading in an ocean of otherwise insanity. But, the heroes you cite weren’t particularly hip. They wouldn’t have the clever tweet in a discussion with Seth Rogan on Twitter. And they certainly weren’t PC. And I think it was a reminder to them that there are a lot of other sane, normal, decent people out there that pop culture doesn’t recognize.

      1. John

        Who would you rather have as your neighbor, the guys, and gals running around in their bass boats saving people or the assholes on Twitter bragging that Texans finally got what was coming to them?

        1. wdalasio

          Like 99% of sane people, I’d prefer the bass boaters to the Twitter assholes. But, that’s just my point. The popular culture spits out that, not only should you prefer the Twitter assholes (consistent with your point), but everybody else prefers the Twitter assholes, that if you prefer the bass boaters, not only are you a bad person, but you’re the only bad person. The folks from Houston, and a lot of the public’s reaction to their response, I think, reminded people that, not only are they not bad people for preferring the bass boaters (again, what I think is your point), but that a huge majority of the sane, rational, public prefers the bass boaters that and it’s the popular culture (or at least elements of the popular culture) that prefers the Twitter assholes who might be out of touch. Sometimes a “Wait, yeah, no, I’m not crazy.” can be a very powerful thing.

        2. wdalasio

          But, as a variant of your question, I’d ask, if you were the store owner from yesterday’s linked video, who would you prefer as a neighbor, the guy ex-cop who refers to you as an “Ay-rab” while protecting your store with a shotgun, or the enlightened liberals who “celebrate your contribution to diversity in our multi-cultural society” and root for the looters.

          1. John

            That is what PC is all about; saying all the right things so that you can then use that as a rationalization for doing whatever wrong thing you want.

    6. Not Adahn

      Someday when I’m suffering from even more bad judgement than usual, I’ll write a post about whiteness. But the conclusion of it is, in that part of Texas (including Austin and San Antonio) hispanics and Vietnamese are white, or at least really really close to white.

      1. Custrel

        Don’t forget the SW Asians and the Middle Easterners. They are almost always counted as “white” in demographics because they don’t have their own special govt approved bucket.

  • Pat

    Hungry North Korean soldiers ‘ordered to steal corn because war is imminent’

    As North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un boasts of his military prowess and flaunts his high tech weapons to the world, his malnourished soldiers are said to be stealing corn from fields to stave off hunger pangs.[…]

    “They are even threatening their soldiers, saying: if you become malnourished despite permission to eat the corn, you will face difficulties.”

    I can’t remember who it was that said a Nork invasion of South Korea would end as soon as they found the first grocery store.

    1. straffinrun

      Kim Jong-Un is going full Sparta. Moron Rabies.

    2. robc

      It might increase the invasion once word of grocery stores got back north.

      1. Gadfly

        Alternatively, the South could offer a hot meal to any soldier who surrenders and the war could be over quickly. Depending on how well the brainwashing has taken, of course.

  • Lachowsky

    You missed a sport ball link. Arkansas played a lightly attended football game in the Capitol city against a patsy amd won.

    1. Brett L

      Sorry, I’m getting up to speed on semi-pro football, and praying that FSU doesn’t field the Louisville team against ‘Bama is taking most of my energy.

      1. robc

        Sloopy questioned my not mentioning (directly) the FSU-Bama game in my article last night, I was hoping you or someone else would whine about it in thread, but nope.

        I referred to it as “some lower division game”.

      2. Lachowsky

        No worries. I have feeling that I’m not going to be enjoying arkansas headlines for most of this year.

    2. robc

      Bigger news.

      Georgia State is first FBS team to lose to an FCS team this year, losing to Tennessee State.
      UConn had to rally against Holy Cross.
      CMU took 3 OTs to beat Rhode Island, despite the URI QB throwing 6 ints. URI also missed a chip shot FG for the win in the 2nd OT.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      You also missed the Golden Rodents of Minnesoda CRUSH Buffalo in the first game of the PJ Fleck era.

      1. Tundra

        I wouldn’t say he missed it, Bob.

  • Stinky Wizzleteats

    I hope you aren’t in pain.
    Alternate title: “Won’t you think of the children?”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/opioid-crisis-petitioners-seek-ban-on-high-dose-painkillers-fda/

    Fucking busybodies are going to be the death of us all.

    1. Pat

      I hope every cunt who signed onto that gets aggressive bone cancer, but survives a couple of years under constant intensive chemo.

    2. Count Potato

      “The petitioners claim toddlers and preschoolers who get their hands on the pills and teenagers who experiment with drugs would be less likely to overdose and die if the high-dose pills were off the market.”

      Bullshit.

      “In July, the painkiller Opana ER was pulled from the market at the FDA’s request following a 2015 outbreak of HIV and hepatitis C in southern Indiana linked to sharing needles to inject the pills.”

      Because that’s proper medical use?

      “More than 15,000 people died from overdoses involving prescription opioids in 2015.”

      Key word: “involving”

      From https://reason.com/archives/2016/05/18/opioid-epidemic-myths :

      “An overwhelming majority of such deaths—more than nine out of 10, according to data from New York City—involve mixtures of opioids with other drugs rather than straightforward overdoses.

      That pattern, illustrated by the untimely ends of celebrities ranging from Janis Joplin to Philip Seymour Hoffman, suggests that the most effective way to prevent opioid-related deaths is to discourage people from combining painkillers or heroin with other drugs, especially depressants such as alcohol and benzodiazepines. It also suggests that the inherent deadliness of opioids has been greatly exaggerated.

      The CDC says “health care providers wrote 259 million prescriptions for painkillers in 2012, enough for every American adult to have a bottle of pills.” That year the CDC counted about 16,000 deaths involving opioid analgesics, or one for every 16,000 or so prescriptions.

      Opioid-related deaths are rare even for patients who take narcotics every day for years. The CDC cites “a recent study of patients aged 15–64 years receiving opioids for chronic noncancer pain” who were followed for up to 13 years. The researchers found that “one in 550 patients died from opioid-related overdose,” which is a risk of less than 0.2 percent.”

  • american socialist

    The antifa is basically the equivalent of storming Normandy . This didn’t age well lol

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidRutz/status/903597973019308032

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      I’d say they were at Normandy, shooting in fortified positions, but that doesn’t really work. They are more like Quisling.

  • Rufus the Monocled

    Homeland Security designates Anitfa as terrorist organization.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235

    NAZIS RUN HS!

    1. leonadasiv

      Trump loves Nazis!!! He lets them pee in his face…or something. /BuzzFeed

    2. straffinrun

      “Everybody is wondering, ‘What are we gonna do? How are we gonna deal with this?’” said the senior state law enforcement official. “Every time they have one of these protests where both sides are bringing guns, there are sphincters tightening in my world.

      Standing around and doing nothing must really soften your stool.

    3. AlmightyJB

      Why do they keep calling them anarchist? Does no one understand the difference between an anarchist and someone who wants an all encompassing state?

      1. leonadasiv

        It’s a fine nuance, I mean I can see how you can make that mistake…

      2. “Anarchist” is a self-label, like “Anti-Fascist”. It’s not accurate, but it’s what they identify with, and we don’t want to microaggress on top of the macroaggressions going on.

      3. Pat

        Historically, anarchism has been most strongly associated with Utopian Marxist post-capitalist statelessness. Anarcho-capitalism is equally valid, but not necessarily more so.

        1. Bob

          But it means no government so unless the commies agitate for less government I have to assume they are stupid or ignorant. I have no doubt they have a long history of stupidity and ignorance.

          Capitalism is the only economy that is compatible with anarchism. Communism requires a ruling class to control production and distribution. Sounds like a contradiction to me.

      4. westernsloper

        #AnarchoCommunism

        But I am not smart enough to tell the difference between that and normal communism.

        1. Gadfly

          Anarcho-communism is the end stage of the communist path, the one that the leaders always conveniently forget to progress to after they’ve progressed to the total state stage. It’s the pie-in-the-sky, gold at the end of the rainbow aspect of normal communism.

          1. Fatty Bolger

            Yep. It just never happens because the wrong people were in charge. But it’ll totally work next time, you’ll see.

          2. Bob

            The stage where all the productive people give away stuff to non-productive people. And apparently they have no overhead for production allowing that to continue perpetually. And that doesn’t just lead to everyone not being productive since there’s no benefit for doing so.

            So for some reason we’ve never reached the step that’s impossible and completely against human nature.

            Marx really was fucking stupid. I don’t understand why he’s considered a thinker with bad ideas. He was not a thinker. He took the idea of a 5 year old, failed to progress past it’s obviously wrong assumptions and wrote volumes stacked on stupid and wrong assumptions.

        2. John Titor

          It’s where the mob shows up and take your shit rather than having the government act as a middleman.

    4. Now violent leftist agitators’ turn to experience 1990s style FBI attention.

  • PieInTheSKy

    Something is changing the sex of Costa Rican crocodiles

    After probing and peering at the genitalia of nearly 500 crocodiles in Palo Verde, Murray and his colleagues found something odd: The sex ratio was way out of whack, with males outnumbering females four to one among hatchling crocs. What’s more, the animals’ tissues were tainted with a synthetic steroid, which the researchers suspect was causing them to switch sex.

    The hormone, 17α-methyltestosterone (MT), is sometimes prescribed for men with testosterone deficiencies and older women with breast cancer. Bodybuilders have been known to abuse it to bulk up. How could it end up in crocodiles from rural Costa Rica? A possible clue: Fish farms around the park raise tilapia on food laced with the hormone, which transforms females into faster-growing and more profitable males. Murray and his colleagues are now investigating whether MT from the farms has somehow contaminated the crocs.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/something-changing-sex-costa-rican-crocodiles?utm_content=buffere20a0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    First the frogs are gay, now the crocodiles are trans? Ales Jones was right all along!

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Unemployed young males with no chance of finding a mate? Doesn’t bode well.

      1. Gadfly

        Croc-terrorists!

        Coming to a theater near you.

    2. Pat

      Well, duh. The same thing happened in Jurassic Park 25 years ago.

      1. leonadasiv

        Nature finds a way!

    3. Hans Landa

      “After probing and peering at the genitalia of nearly 500 crocodiles in Palo Verde” — Perverts.

    4. AlmightyJB

      I thought for reptiles it was temperature related.

      1. Normally, yes.

        Hypothesis – the temperature determines what hormones are naturally produced within the developing embryo. An external source of additional hormones can skew the process regardless of nest temperature.

    5. Old Man With Candy

      The whole BPA scare apparently got started with Fred vom Saal observing shortened penises of alligators. Or so I hear.

  • Pat

    Armed men accused of holding up Woodlawn bar — where cops were celebrating a colleague’s retirement

    As officers were celebrating a longtime sergeant’s retirement in the main room of Monaghan’s Pub on Gwynn Oak Avenue, two masked men approached the carryout counter nearby around 5:30 p.m., police said. Monaghan’s owner Jack Milani said the men demanded cash from the register and then took off.

    Some of the off-duty officers attending the retirement party gave chase and arrested the two men nearby, the department said.

    Looks like they tripped on the curb during the getaway…

    1. leonadasiv

      When your off duty you don’t have those pesky body cams keeping you from dispensing some early Justice.

    2. Not an Economist

      One of my favorite stories is about somebody who decided to hold up a donut shop. You have the stereotype of cops and donuts (and there is a reason for it) already going against the robber. But to top it off, this particular donut shop was across the street from … wait for it … a police station. No word on whether it was just after a shift change.

  • Rufus the Monocled

    For those of you keeping tabs. The Hamilton Tiger-Cats have declined to sign Johnny Manziel. They weren’t convinced he could commit to football.

    Warning autoplay commercials:

    https://www.cfl.ca/2017/08/30/report-ticats-worked-johnny-manziel/

    You know you’re out of it when the CFL thinks you’re toxic.

    1. robc

      Art Briles – check
      Johnny Manziel – check

    2. John

      He is going to have to go to the arena league and prove he is not a degenerate.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        They’ll take him too. Half those teams are built for the spectacle.

    3. CPRM

      My freshman roommate ended up playing in the CFL. Slowest walking pace of anyone I ever met, but damn when it came time he had jets. No comment on Manziel other than this photoshop I did for a contest when he was drafted.

      1. CPRM

        speak of the devil. He’s been out of pro football for a while now, and today for the first time in years my old google news alert sent me an article mentioning him. (My old roommate that is, not Manziel)

  • Nugget of wisdom: if you feel the need to advertise that you are a “food snob,” then you are likely not so much a snob as a “food douche.”

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Obligatory South Park:
      https://youtu.be/pDlR_ccnZww

    2. wdalasio

      The entire “food snob” / “foodie” thing has pretty much been about douchey social signaling from the outset. The entire thing has pretty much always been about making political statements (locavores, organic, cruelty-free) rather than saying you appreciate really good food or have a refined palette. There’s been a word for the latter types for years – a gourmand. And the funny thing is most of the latter types that I’ve met are usually vastly less pretentious than the people who call themselves food snobs or foodies.

      1. Custrel

        I think the descriptors “picky eater” and “glutton” cover 99% of the “foodie” population.

  • Pope Jimbo

    A nice nut punch to start your holiday weekend.

    A nurse refuses to draw blood for a cop and explains that she can’t because they a) don’t have a warrant, b) patient consent or c) someone under arrest. She seems to have the hospital lawyer on the phone who tells the cop that they can’t legally draw blood.

    Cop decides to arrest nurse and she does a great job of screaming for help.

    There is an investigation into the incident, but the local cops didn’t even decide to suspend the cop during it.

    1. Pat

      Hope she sues.

    2. Brett L

      What is it about cops that they need to punch up on nurses for protecting a patient?

      1. Brett L

        PS, I was going to run this story in the links, but it was too local interest.

        1. straffinrun

          Lol.

    3. Lachowsky

      Good for that nurse.

    4. Mr Lizard

      It’s almost as if the enforcer class has some kind of financial incentive to get DUI convictions…

    5. R C Dean

      She was absolutely right. I had the same kind of run in with the cops several years ago at work. I told them the nurse was acting under my dire tion, an divided them to arrest me.

      They declined.

      1. John

        Yes she was. Her employer should give her a promotion. She suffered the indignity of being arrested and saved them from having to pay what likely would have been significant damages for assault.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Not only that, but the patient was an unconscious burn victim. And the cops think taking blood is no big deal. Fuck them both with rusty chainsaws. Both the cop and his supervisor directing the arrest should be charged themselves with false arrest.

          1. Assault and battery
            False imprisonment
            Terroristic threats
            Conspiracy to commit all of the above
            And firearm enhancers for every charge.

          2. DEG

            Laws are for the little people.

          3. WTF

            Yes, union rules forbid the application of the laws to police officers.

          4. commodious spittoon

            The patient wasn’t even the suspect fleeing from police. The suspect died in the accident. The patient was the poor SOB whose truck the suspect plowed into. So police showed up to draw blood from a bystander, for God knows what reason.

            Let that sink in: their suspect died, so apparently they decided to go after their suspect’s victim.

          5. Pope Jimbo

            Even the local cops got a warrant to search the house of Justine Damond.

            I’m sure there was something in there to exonerate the cop who shot her out the window of the cop car.

          6. DOOMco

            any updates on that?

    6. Old Man With Candy

      It would be more effective for her to scream, “RAPE!!!!!”

      1. wdalasio

        Yeah, but what makes you think the cops in question wouldn’t have taken it as an invitation?

    7. Count Potato

      What reason did the cops give for the arrest?

      1. commodious spittoon

        Interfering with an investigation.

    8. commodious spittoon

      Hey, look at that, turns out it’s not too locally newsy for TOS to cover.

    9. commodious spittoon

      Michael Cline
      9:26 AM MDT
      This is the beginning of Trump’s new facsim policy!

  • Slammer

    Question for the Glibs:

    Assume there is a person who knows absolutely zero about personal firearms, but wants to learn from the very beginning, eventaully making a purchase.

    What websites or books are a must read for an absolute beginner?

    1. I’d take a weekend-long instructional course that assumes zero knowledge.

      1. Suthenboy

        ^This^

        You want hands-on experience guided by someone who has lots of experience. No books or websites can give you what you really need.

        When instructing a new to guns person I always begin by impressing them with the need for mindfulness and safety. Writing it out just doesnt have the same effect as my in person speech.

        Take a course.

        1. Slammer

          Thank you, sir

          1. The major plus I view in these long courses is that the instructor will drill good habits and trigger discipline into your head from zero hour. You should ideally never reflexively put your finger inside the trigger guard when handling firearms if your instructor did their job properly. With the default level of respect, your comfort level with firearms will naturally follow suit.

      2. CatoTheElder

        ^ THIS^ ^SECONDED^

        My dad taught me how to handle firearms since I was a kid. So I was thoroughly indoctrinated in all aspects of firearms safety from childhood. Somebody who has absolutely zero experience in firearms safety really needs an personal orientation how to handle firearms.

        You can’t handle firearms safely unless you know how to handle firearms properly … and that requires practice in a controlled setting. You really can’t get that from a book or a video.

      1. Slammer

        Thanks

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Also, I loathe them but the NRA has a lot of good gun safety reading and videos if you need something that basic.

          1. Lachowsky

            The NRA sucks a bunch, but they are the single most powerful defense of the 2A. I wish they were better, but I take what I can get.

    2. Lachowsky

      For what purpose does one want a firearm for? That’s pretty important.

      1. Slammer

        Recreation and personal defense.

        1. Lachowsky

          the best thing to do would be to find people who are into personal defense and recreation and talk to them. go to your local firing range and ask questions. most gun people are more than happy to share their knowledge. Aside from that, find a self defense blog and start asking questions. In my experience, gun people love to talk about their guns (I know i do). Gun bloggers almost always love to tell newbies what they know as they are interested is sharing the self defense message to gain more support.

    3. Tundra

      A date with Vhyrus would be my suggestion.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Instead of flowers, bring a box of Federal Hydra-Shoks, you’re sure to get lucky.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          That is a good start. But make sure to go to a decent – and honest – restaurant. Nothing turns Vhyrus off like going to a clip joint.

      2. Vhyrus, if you’re reading: please consider a future section of Firearms Friday with the purpose of doing an overview of the pros and cons of various types of open and concealed pistol holsters. Specific request: your take on whether or not police detective style holsters are stupid and pointless or possibly dangerous.

        1. *police detective-style under-jacket shoulder holsters

    4. Pat

      Book an exorbitantly expensive class at Front Sight Firearms Training Institute – it supports about a third of my local economy.

    5. mexican sharpshooter

      Look into the Appleseed Project. The course will teach everything from history, laws, safety and marksmanship.
      https://appleseedinfo.org/

    6. DOOMco

      class, range with someone who has a few guns, range that lets you rent their guns.

      youtube isn’t terrible to see some gun you’re looking to get, but those tacticool guys aren’t great.

    7. Bob

      People make a lot of guns. Pull trigger, bullet comes out. Don’t point at things you don’t want to put bullets in. Outside of that you can dig into specs of whatever you want but it’s not rocket surgery.

      I think acting like guns are some sort of quantum mechanics field requiring ages of study is more likely to lead people down the licensing path than telling the truth. They are simple mechanical devices. Mastering shooting takes years, safely shooting doesn’t take long at all.

  • The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of cash for clunkers, there was a headline about “million(s) of cars and trucks destroyed by Harvey” on the google news.

    Krugabe must be fapping himself into semi-consciousness.

    1. I’m not so sure that’d be the case. He seems to only get orgasmic when the senseless destruction of capital assets is directed and executed by Top. Men.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        or aliens

        1. Suthenboy

          Beat me to it.

    2. Tundra

      Used car buyers are gonna have to step up their game for the next year. There are gonna be a ton of fucked up cars on the market.

  • Count Potato

    “According to the letter and an ongoing investigation into the matter, Comey started drafting a statement exonerating Clinton in April or May of 2016. At this point, he had not interviewed Clinton herself or her closest aides. This included Bryan Pagliano, who set up the personal server where Clinton hosted and shared top secret information, and Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, who was granted immunity. On July 5, 2016, Comey made his public statement that the FBI would not be referring Clinton to the Department of Justice for prosecution.”

    Another thing is that there is supposedly no transcript of the interview with Clinton.

    1. Lachowsky

      Color me not surprised.
      Upper level givernment officials all cover the asses of one another. News at 11.

      1. John

        The Democrats really did a number on the FBI. I have always considered the FBI to be publicity seeking, incompetent assholes, but as low as my opinion was, I think up until Obama got in there they really were nonpartisan. Comey turned it into an arm of the Democratic Party. It is just a complete mess. They need to close it down and start over. I really don’t know how else you can fix it.

        1. american socialist

          It really is…McCabe seems even worse to me

        2. Lachowsky

          John, I don’t have evidence to back it, but I believe that this is bipartisan thing. The FBI is answerable to the leadership of the fed gov. Comey thought hillary was going to be his next boss. If Comey thought trump was going to be his next boss, then I believe things would have happened differently.

          The FBI is beholden to national politics. They shouldn’t be, but they are. It’s not a democrat/republican problem. It’s a problem of a law enforcement agency scared to go after their superiors.

          1. WTF

            I don’t think so, I think most of the federal agencies are inundated with Democrats and their sympathizers. When Comey found out Trump was actually his new boss, he did everything he could to screw him. Likewise most of the other agencies seem determined to undermine and thwart Trump at every turn.

        3. Count Potato

          I think Comey was a “Never Trump” Republican, not a Democrat. Which hardly means his actions weren’t political. Yet, perhaps his actions would have been different if someone such as Jeb Bush was the nominee.

          1. John

            I am not sure what party Comey was if he ever had one. But his claim to fame initially was he was the US Attorney who did the sham investigation of the Marc Rich pardon. He then also signed off on the Bush interrogation techniques when he was Deputy AG under Bush. Then Obama made him director of the FBI after a stint with Lockheed Martin.

            Comey is one of the most remarkably bipartisan crapweasels I have ever seen. He has basically been a professional back man and hack for the entire Washington establishment. He is one of those people that you have to wonder at their utter shamelessness and immorality. I am sure he wakes up every day thinking he is a great person and a patriot. Wow.

    2. american socialist

      He was planning to exonerate before lynch meeting on tarmac and before immunity was given out

      This suggests
      1. His testimony regarding making the call was a lie
      2. Immunity was so they could destroy evidence

      His October re opening makes sense now. The nypd had weiners laptop which had incriminating info. He opens it back up and says the emails are only duplicates. It was to destroy evidence. Watch this be the new revelation

    3. Suthenboy

      I have been watching the in-your-face corruption and arrogance by the top Dems since 2008. It was just so over the top I kept expecting something to happen, some kind of outrage but all we get are crickets. Their breathtaking incompetence, their open fuck-you’s to the American public, their bald-faced lies and corruption…but yeah, it was the Russians that got Trump elected. I have a feeling we are going to see those sneaky Ruskies effect another massacre at the polls next year, and not just on the Democrats.

      1. american socialist

        So we got :

        1. Obama spying on opponents
        2. Dnc likely was an inside job
        3. Sham email investigation
        4. Dnc collusion with Ukraine
        5. Awans

      2. John

        Thank God Hillary didn’t win. Trump isn’t doing enough to shut this shit down but at least it isn’t getting worse. Had Hillary won it would have gotten a thousand times worse than it even is now.

        1. Suthenboy

          I suspect it could have been the end of the country. She openly bragged about her plans to attack the bill of rights. Imagine Antifa’s antics while we have to watch Hillary seize guns from citizens and shut down disfavored news outlets.

          It would have set the country on fire.

  • Count Potato

    “BANGKOK — As a hit-and-run charge effectively expires, the whereabouts of an heir to the Red Bull energy-drink empire accused of killing a Bangkok police officer five years ago remain unknown. The fugitive, whose family is worth billions, has apparently found a way to disappear.”

    http://nypost.com/2017/09/01/red-bull-heir-dodges-justice-for-killing-a-cop/

      1. Count Potato

        I completely forgot that song had something to with a chess tournament.

    1. NoDakMat

      I assume she sprouted wings, and flew away.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder

    The New York Times wants to publish more disaffected former Trump supporters.

    In his Sunday Review piece, “I Voted for Trump. And I Sorely Regret It,” Julius Krein wrote about why he stopped supporting Trump and urged anyone who once supported him to “stop defending the 45th president.”

    We would like to hear from people who have similar feelings. Did you previously support President Trump, but no longer do? If so, what were the factors that contributed to your switch? Please tell us using the form below.

    We may follow up with you to hear more about your story. Your name and comments might be published, but your contact information will not.

    1. american socialist

      These people didn’t vote for trump. The nyt is complete trash

      1. Suthenboy

        The NYT isnt going to win anyone over with their pinko propaganda. But yeah, that smells on ice. Those people didn’t vote for Trump.

        1. The Zenome Project

          The fact that these “former supporters” are notching on the NYT and not, say, Breitbart, shows that they weren’t Trump voters to begin with.

          1. The Zenome Project

            Bitching* (cell phone sensor magic)

      2. The Zenome Project

        The effectiveness of articles like that assume that Trump supporters read the NYT, though. Either that, or it’s just another tool to signal to fellow lefties that “Damn right you made the correct choice to vote for Cankles!”

      3. wdalasio

        What are you talking about. There’s plenty of Trump supporters who got woke to the error of their ways.

    2. MikeS

      I assume the next series in the NYT will be “I didn’t vote for Trump, but he’s starting to win me over.” Right?

    3. whiz

      They should also ask for people whose opinion of Trump has improved. They might be surprised at what they get.

      1. whiz

        Oops, I should refresh more often.

  • Count Potato

    “A North Carolina man allegedly attempted to elude police on Wednesday by diving into the ocean and swimming away — but unknowingly he was just feet away from a shark while trying the brazen escape.

    Zachary Kingsbury, 20, was pulled over for a traffic stop just before 5 p.m. in Surf City, according to WECT.

    He allegedly tried to escape when officers spotted illegal contraband inside the vehicle and asked him to exit the car. Kingsbury jumped into the ocean and began swimming away, leading to an hours-long standoff, officials said.

    Within an hour, Kingsbury was reportedly 4,000 feet from the shore, and the Surf City Police Department launched a drone to track the escapee.”

    http://nypost.com/2017/08/31/man-jumps-into-ocean-to-escape-police-gets-chased-by-shark-instead/

    1. Vhyrus

      I’ll take ‘Omg look at this awful thing that almost but not quite happened’ for $300.

    2. Vhyrus

      OMFG did you see the actual shark? It was like 3 feet! That shark wanted not a fucking thing to do with that guy. What a bullshit story. I am terrified of sharks and I wouldn’t even have cared about that one.

      1. WTF

        I just wonder where the fuck the guy thought he was going. Did he think he was going to swim to Spain or something?

        1. Count Potato

          I’m impressed he swam 3/4 mile. Although the meth might have had something to do with that and his lack of clear thinking.

    3. Brett L

      After an hour he was still within a mile of shore? Jesus.

      1. Count Potato

        I doubt it was in a straight line.

  • The Zenome Project

    Quite unlikely, but if true something that I would personally celebrate about:

    A GOP lawmaker’s suggestion that Wikileaks founder Julian Assange could be pardoned by President Trump is being eyed warily by people in the intelligence community.

    While a pardon for Assange seems unlikely, it’s hardly impossible considering Trump’s praise for Wikileaks and Assange’s own efforts to question U.S. intelligence that Russia sought to influence last year’s election.

    As such, the idea is being taken seriously in intelligence quarters.

    “It would send a terrible message to the intelligence community,” said Robert Deitz, a former senior counselor to the director of the Central Intelligence Agency and general counsel at the National Security Agency.

    Deitz currently works as a Professor at George Mason University’s Schar School of Policy and Government.

    “What moral are people supposed to draw from that? Why on earth would you believe Julian Assange before the intelligence community?”

    Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.), who has come under scrutiny for his own ties to Russia, is behind the Assange pardon push.

    The deal Rohrabacher is trying to cut: pardon Assange in exchange for information he claims proves Russia did not collude with the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential race.

    1. american socialist

      Is this a serious quote?

      “What moral are people supposed to draw from that? Why on earth would you believe Julian Assange before the intelligence community?”

      You mean James clapper, comey and Brennan are trustworthy people?

      1. The Zenome Project

        Well, trustworthy in the sense that they will protect his bureaucratic ass from any possible dirt, of course.

      2. WTF

        Yeah, James “I gave the least dishonest answers to congress that I could” Clapper is trustworthy. Meanwhile, I believe that Wikileaks has never been shown to be wrong about anything they’ve said.

      3. Count Potato

        I wouldn’t believe any of them.

    2. Pat

      Has Assange even been charged with anything in the US?

      1. The Zenome Project

        No, I believe not, the legal threats are coming from other countries like the UK.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      What moral are people supposed to draw from that?

      Stop spying on your own citizens and stop lying about it.

    4. Suthenboy

      “Why on earth would you believe Julian Assange before the intelligence community?”

      Gee, I dunno. Maybe we could ask Clapper and Comey.

      1. Custrel

        But why WOULD’NT I believe people who have lied, under oath, multiple times vs someone who, so far, hasn’t been proven to have lied about anything…. and he’s an alleged rapist in Sweden.

  • John

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/348789-trump-to-cut-pay-raises-for-government-workers

    Trump cutting pay raises for government workers. Any guesses on how TOS will spin this as a bad thing? You know someone over there will.

    1. american socialist

      Good

      1. John

        It is. And I am affected by it But it still is the right thing to do. I am just more intrigued by the thought of TOS twisting itself to explain how this really isn’t libertarian, which is something that they would do.

        1. WTF

          I bet they go along some line of enforcing a contract agreement or keeping promises or some bullshit.

    2. Badolph Hilter

      Damn, he really is trying to lock in my vote for 2020.

      If he actually manages to downsize the headcount by more than about 2%, I’d probably have no choice but to vote for him regardless of what else he fucks up.

      1. John

        Who was the last President who reduced the number of federal employees during his time in office? Certainly not Obama, Clinton or either of the Bushes. I would be shocked if Reagan did. I think you would have to go back to Truman, but that is only because the war ended. To get someone who cut the civilian workforce, I think you would have to go back to Coolidge.

        But remember, Trump was a closet Democrat and not a “real conservative”. He is just going to actually cut the size of government, something the “real conservatives” have never done, by accident I guess.

        1. WTF

          “Real conservatives” always “reach across the aisle” in order to “be adults and work with the opposition to find a compromise”.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder

    Economics for Morons

    Giving every adult in the United States a $1,000 cash handout per month would grow the economy by $2.5 trillion by 2025, according to a new study on universal basic income.

    The report was released in August by the left-leaning Roosevelt Institute. Roosevelt research director Marshall Steinbaum, Michalis Nikiforos at Bard College’s Levy Institute, and Gennaro Zezza at the University of Cassino and Southern Lazio in Italy co-authored the study.

    The study made economic forecasts for three proposals: a full universal basic income in which every adult gets $1,000 a month ($12,000 a year), a partial basic income in which every adult gets $500 a month ($6,000 a year), and a child allowance in which parents get $250 a month ($3,000 a year).

    The larger the universal basic income, the greater the benefit to the economy, according to the report.

    A $1,000 cash handout to all adults would grow the economy by 12.56 percent after eight years, the study finds. Current Congressional Budget Office estimates put the GDP at $19.8 trillion. The cash handout would therefore increase the GDP by $2.48 trillion. (Vox first did this extrapolation in their coverage of the report, and Steinbaum confirmed the accuracy of the extrapolation to CNBC Make It by email.)

    The $250 allowance would grow the GDP by 0.79 percent and a $500-a-month payment would grow the GDP by 6.5 percent.

    “The larger the universal basic income, the greater the benefit to the economy, according to the report.”

    “When paying for the policy by increasing taxes on households rather than paying for the policy with debt, the policy is not expansionary,” the report says. “In effect, it is giving to households with one hand what it is taking away with the other. There is no net effect.”

    Greenstein offered one innovative alternative: “To be sure, there is a possible exception: a carbon tax that returns its proceeds to the public via a universal payment.”

    1. John

      It has been over 20 years since I got my economics degree. Every day I am more convinced that the entire field of macro economics is nothing but a giant fantasy constructed to get around the truth that there is no such thing as a free lunch.

      Your nation is as wealthy as the sum total of the goods and services it produces. It is that simple. No amount of printing money, borrowing money or magical thinking is going to change that.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The idea that a carbon tax could be used to fund it is the most laughable part. A carbon tax would be the most regressive tax ever implemented.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Nevermind the ridiculous promise that debt wouldn’t be used to fund it. Who could possibly believe that?

        2. american socialist

          Yea a 2.5 trillion carbon tax? Hot damn

        3. John

          Remember Ron Bailey’s love of the carbon tax? He actually convinced himself that making every form of energy artificially expensive wouldn’t reduce the wealth of the country. He really thought that as long as the market was distributing the carbon credits, it would not cost us anything. It was kind of a man bites dog phenomenon. Usually, people engage in magical thinking about the government. Bailey was engaging in magical thinking about the MARKET. Apparently, Bailey thinks that you can enact any policy, no matter how stupid or counter productive, and it won’t cost anything just as long as you set up some market mechanism to implement it.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I can’t imagine a worse thing for the economy than driving up energy costs.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Or rather, I can’t imagine a worse thing for the wealth of ordinary people than driving up energy costs.

          3. tarran

            Based on his utterly bonkers articles on Climategate, Ron Bailey is either really confused when it comes to political, legal, social and economic issues related to climate change, or utterly disingenuous. I favor the latter explanation because I find it difficult to credit that someone could be handed a story on a platter just outside the dining room door, and manage to drop it in a toilet and flush it and then substitute a hastily decanned mass of spam and present it to the horrified diners as the original. That sort of thing just doesn’t happen accidentally unless a person is at Mr Magoo levels of blindness.

          4. John

            He is dishonest. The thing about Bailey is that he is older and I think very sensitive to his social status. To come out against global warming or even be skeptical of it, is absolute heresy among Bailey’s social circles. I am a part of similar circles and trust me when I tell you they think you are some kind of a nut if you don’t buy it. Bailey has spent his entire career trying to show how you can do something about global warming and still be a libertarian. I think that is because he doesn’t want the social stigma that comes with being a skeptic and because he thinks being one will make people less receptive to Libertarian ideas.

            It all is nothing but a bullshit rationalization for him lacking the courage to tell what I think if you gave him a truth serum would admit is the truth.

          5. Count Potato

            There is one thing the government can do reduce burning fossil fuels: cut taxes and regulations.

          6. wdalasio

            It all is nothing but a bullshit rationalization for him lacking the courage to tell what I think if you gave him a truth serum would admit is the truth.

            The pathetic part is that it never works anyway. Sure, maybe you’ll be tolerated, so long as you make sure to keep on your toes never to say the wrong thing. But, you better make sure you never say the wrong thing, our you’ll find yourself slapped down. Hard. On the other hand, the Fenwick approach has always worked just fine for me.

      2. Custrel

        Minored in econ (whatever that actually means anymore) and I’m starting to have difficulty distinguishing between economics and climate science at times.

    2. american socialist

      How fucking stupid are these people.

    3. american socialist

      What is their hard on for a carbon tax? Especially one that gets rebated…what will that accomplish

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Save the planet and the poor at the same time. Of course a carbon tax would hit the poor more than any other segment of the population.

      2. Suthenboy

        IIRC seven cents of each dollar that goes into entitlement programs actually gets into the hands of the entitled. The bureaucracy soaks up the other 93 cents. It just disappears down a black hole.

        Another two and half trillion bucks down that rathole, what do you think their hard on for the carbon tax is about?

    4. robc

      If a ubi was accompanied by eliminated ALL transfer payments and welfare programs and firing all the federal employees involved with those programs, it might be tolerable.

      Might.

      Probably not.

      1. american socialist

        12k a year for every adult plus kids and such is going to be over 3 trillion a year which is more than currently spent on entitlements

        1. robc

          I figured it out once with full amt for adults and smaller amt for kids and it about balanced out. But But the full amount wasn’t 12k. And I was including things like social security in my cuts.

    5. “When paying for the policy by increasing taxes on households rather than paying for the policy with debt, the policy is not expansionary,” the report says. “In effect, it is giving to households with one hand what it is taking away with the other. There is no net effect.”

      Greenstein offered one innovative alternative: “To be sure, there is a possible exception: a carbon tax that returns its proceeds to the public via a universal payment.”

      Dipshit, who pays carbon taxes? It’d be just taking back the same money you handed out with additonal losses to administer the system.

    6. Tundra

      Jesus christ that is the dumbest article of the week. I liked this little tidbit, though:

      The idea of a universal basic income has been promoted lately by technology leaders and Silicon Valley billionaires.

      Some, like Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, see cash handouts as a solution to the imminent threat of automation to the labor force. Musk has said that universal basic income will be a virtual necessity because robots will put so many low-skilled workers out of a job.

      Others, like Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, think handouts could give everyone the safety net necessary to think like an entrepreneur. Zuckerberg touts UBI as a way to ensure people are not afraid to take risks to pursue the projects and business ventures they are passionate about.

      Funny how Musk shows up in every article about handouts. Oh, and the idea that a ‘basic income’ will spur entrepreneurs tells me that the person spewing that garbage doesn’t know too many of them. Zuckerberg caught lightning in a bottle. Strip him of everything and let’s see him do it again. Fuckwit.

      1. american socialist

        Clearly let’s jack up the min wage!!!

        1. whiz

          A UBI puts the minimum wage at $infinity/hr since the hours worked is zero…

      2. EvilSheldon

        The idea of a bunch of dolists ‘thinking like entrepreneurs’ is just painfully stupid. Dolists sit around the house, watch TV, and get high. That’s what they’ve always done, that’s what they’ll continue to do. Which is probably what the fuckers promoting the UBI want more of.

    7. ChipsnSalsa

      If 1,000 a month is good, 10,000 a month is better right?

      Srsly, you want more babies born to low income single mothers? Give them $250 a month and see how many babies you get.

      1. Suthenboy

        They clearly did claim that the bigger the UBI the greater the benefit. Why stop at 10K?

      2. WTF

        Well, sure, because “The larger the universal basic income, the greater the benefit to the economy, according to the report.”
        So if $1K a month grows it by $2.5 Trillion, then 10K a month would more than double the GDP by growing it an extra $25 trillion!

      3. Custrel

        Brilliant! I can’t believe this has never been tried by a country before! We need to get a jump on this before China or India figure out the secret to trickinomics!

    8. Suthenboy

      Every fourth grader knows that the economy is just a giant perpetual motion machine.

    9. Pat

      Concomitant with the elimination of all other forms of welfare, including social security, a UBI of $1,000/mo probably would unleash a torrent of economic activity while doing away with a substantial amount of administrative overhead and regulatory drag and providing adequate subsistence to the poorest. There are about 126 million households in the US. $1,000/mo per household would cost $1.5 trillion per year. Federal outlays for 2015 were something like $3.6 trillion, of which $1.25 trillion was social security alone. But it would ONLY be workable concomitant with the elimination of all other forms of welfare. Which will never, ever, ever happen.

      1. american socialist

        I thought they proposed 1000 per adult and then some extra for kids

        1. Pat

          Yeah, I think they are, which is pretty unrealistic. I was just ruminating on how a UBI could potentially be done.

      2. I go back and forth on this. I think I prefer a negative income tax if we’re going to do something like a UBI, but I still have a serious problem with redistribution. It just doesn’t seem morally right to just straight up take money from people who a government body has determined make too much and give it to people they don’t know who don’t make enough. Either you own your labor or you’re a slave, and if you own your labor then you own the fruits of it.

        1. Pat

          It’s as morally wrong as can be. It’s just probably a smarter way of doing it than what we do now. Even with the negative income tax it requires the monstrously intrusive bureaucracy of the IRS. A UBI could literally be administered in the cloud with probably a few thousand employees.

          1. Sure, and I guess that’s the other side of the coin. If you accept that an acceptable role for government is to provide some sort of a safety net, which in principle I do, you have to figure out some way to fund that. Realistically, within our lifetimes, that’s going to mean some sort of tax or tariff. That being the case, a UBI or a negative income tax is probably the least worst option provided that it consolidates and replaces the welfare state. And, as you say, that last bit is the rub, because nobody believes that would really be the case.

          2. Pat

            The biggest advantage to the UBI I think versus other types of safety net programs is that it gives people agency, minimizes bureaucracy, and most importantly of all, minimizes dead weight loss. Under the current system, it is extremely difficult to transition from welfare dependency to self-sufficiency because of all of the rules and conditions of receiving support. The minute you get a part time min wage job or start peddling homemade crafts on Etsy, there goes your medical care, or your food stamps, etc etc. For people on the margins it creates a perverse incentive to stay dependent instead of better yourself. With a UBI, you have a basic subsistence regardless, and if you want something more there’s no penalty for earning (except the portion you have to pay in taxes).

            But, here again, we’re talking purely about theoreticals here. The bureaucracy is so entrenched that you’ll never get rid of it, and even if you were starting from scratch, the probability that a UBI would stay sufficiently low not to create its own set of perverse incentives or wouldn’t become just as sclerotic and rule-bound as the current system is nil.

          3. WTF

            For people on the margins it creates a perverse incentive to stay dependent instead of better yourself.

            Feature, not a bug. The party of government dependency needs to have plenty of people dependent on government.

      3. LJW

        I’m definitely not a government knows what’s best for us person. But I can’t help but think on this hypothetical situation how many morons blow through the cash, ending up with no savings in retirement.

        1. Roger Wilco

          Employed people already do that today

        2. Pat

          As long as you can live on $1,000/mo you don’t really need savings for retirement under that scenario. That’s part of what the concept is all about. It provides a minimum subsistence for the sob stories that they like to trot out to sell every welfare program (even though those people rarely benefit from the programs at all). So enough to keep old people from eating cat food and poor hood mamas and trailer trash from auctioning their children, but not enough to disincentivize work for the even moderately ambitious. Hayek’s proposals on the subject are interesting.

    10. Yeah, no thanks. Eliminate Medicaid and Medicare first, then we’ll talk.

    11. LJW

      Better idea all of the Silicon Valley tech companies that support this idea can voluntarily pool their money and distribute it to the population.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        1) they don’t want it to be voluntary. Like this https://youtu.be/gh9dfaSOn5o

        2) even if the companies, owners, and employees all did this, it would only be a drop in the bucket. To fund pork of that scale requires digging into everyone who earns money.

    12. invisible finger

      Written by the same people who actually complained about the $300 tax rebates for the least-wealthy Americans.

  • Count Potato

    “‘I am advocating for the eat real food, not too much, mostly plants lifestyle’: Model Bridget Malcolm reveals she doesn’t crave starch in summer”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4842580/Bridget-Malcolm-reveals-doesn-t-crave-starch-summer.html

    Sad.

    1. Pat

      I like women on the slender side, but Jesus…

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      She should eat a burger instead.

    3. Wow. Way, way too skinny. The 12-year-old boy look might work for some, but that poor thing looks like she’s one stiff breeze away from a spinal fracture.

      1. Looks more like an escapee from an anorexia clinic.

      2. WTF

        Yeah, she’s not “slender”, she’s skeletal.

    4. Gustave Lytton

      Shouldn’t a lingerie model be actually somewhat sexy? Her ribs are a bigger cup size than her boobs.

  • american socialist

    Jennifer Rubin, David brooks and Ana Navarro are cons/rep who constantly bitch about cons and GOP while shilling for liberal policies

    Basically it allows these outlets to claim they are across spectrum while appealing to liberals

    1. The Zenome Project

      Cushy legacy media cash in exchange for endless NeverTrumpism? Not a bad deal, if I’m honest.

      1. John

        No it isn’t. And then they get to pretend how brave they are on top of it. Is there any less brave position for an I95 journalist to take than hating Trump? But they have all convinced themselves how brave it was that they stood up. It was a regular Warsaw uprising.

      2. wdalasio

        “Hey where do we sign up?”

        – N. Gillespie, S. Dalmia, E. Nolan-Brown, R. Soave

    2. Q Continuum

      Those three are the definition of RINO.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Navarro is a pigheaded, shrill, stupid, horrible human being. Hearing her talk makes want to gouge out my eardrums with a steak knife.

    4. Suthenboy

      When I was pretty young I saw a guy selling chinsy knives in the Howard Brothers store. It was an old fashioned confidence game with the long pitch and the stunts like sawing coke cans in half and then slicing a tomato etc. There were twenty or so people standing around listening but no one buying. Suddently this woman in the back of the crowd gave a loud performance of suddenly being convinced to buy and made her way to the front very enthusiastically.

      I couldn’t have been more than 8 or 9 but seeing that gave me an instant “Hey, wait just a minute. What did I just see?”

      Those three are conservatives like the disaffected Trump supporters are Trump voters. Hell, Navarro is just a straight up Nicaraguan commie.

      1. John

        One of my favorite media carny games is the “life time gun owner who thinks this time the GOP and the NRA have gone too far”. Its an old one but a reliable one.

    5. Gilmore

      Jennifer Rubin, David brooks …. are cons

      not really. they’re upper-class-minded (if not actually rich) conservative jews from berkeley + manhattan. their idea of ‘conservative’ is to politely suggest that welfare growth should be tied to a narrower definition of CPI. they still think all the big government programs should exist, and they still live in the same bubble-world the uberprogs do, they just didn’t grow up with radical hippies for schoolteachers, they understand how Wall St works and don’t instinctively hate it, and they have socially-conservative friends who they think shouldn’t be openly-mocked simply for believing in god.

      a confession: this is pretty much the only version of “Conservative” i knew growing up. They were basically just the same as everyone else, but slightly more concerned about money.

      the only TV conservative i think ever fit the bill as an actual ‘ideas’ guy is George Will. And they only let him on because any girl in the room could kick his ass. Basically, he’s harmless

  • Q Continuum

    Happy Friday Glibs, this should hold you over till beer-time.

    http://archive.is/Kt0bH

    2 and 9 for me.

    1. Tundra

      I think we all know the winner today.

      51 is, coincidentally, 51 and remains a solid wood.

      Thanks, Q!

      1. Q Continuum

        Salmita, The ultimate ringer.

    2. I’ll let you know when I can manage to get past #7.

    3. DEG

      Orgy.

  • The Late P Brooks

    The study made economic forecasts for three proposals: a full universal basic income in which every adult gets $1,000 a month ($12,000 a year), a partial basic income in which every adult gets $500 a month ($6,000 a year), and a child allowance in which parents get $250 a month ($3,000 a year).

    The larger the universal basic income, the greater the benefit to the economy, according to the report.

    Good grief.

    Did they happen to mention precisely where this money magic fairy dust will come from?

    1. american socialist

      Venezuela has printed their way to utopia

    2. The Zenome Project

      Top Men, of course. Just ask Mark Zuckerberg…or Justin Trudeau…or Hugo Chavez…wait…

    3. They’re going to tax “The rich”, with the definition being anyone who makes at least $10,000/yr including UBI.

    4. Ken Shultz

      Weren’t the original proposals about killing off all government spending?

      You give people a universal income to shop for what they want, and then they become consumers instead of welfare recipients. Then, they can put their kids in private schools, go buy groceries like the rest of us, pay their own rent–and we can kill funding for public schooling, kill the food stamp program, and kill paying the rent of the eternally unemployed.

      I was always dubious of these proposals because I was skeptical that they would actually cut those programs.

      Now that they use the term “universal income” without any association with shrinking government, I’m not longer skeptical. I’m sure they never plant to cut those programs.

      Also, I don’t hear many people claiming that automation will create more and better jobs than it destroys anymore. The techies exist in multibillion dollar industries with high paying jobs that didn’t exist 20 years ago, but they’re preparing for a world in which most people are permanently unemployed–20 years from now. I have to confess, I’m starting to question my own convictions on the subject.

      My old standby for the question of what to do with all the useless people was always to give them and their employers freedom to be useful. If automation someday soon makes that impossible for more and more people, but we’re looking at the employed being ever more productive than was possible before, we’ll be looking at something like a universal income for the middle class. We libertarian capitalists better get our story straight before that happens–just in case that happens.

      1. At heart I am a luddite. I honestly believe there will be a point where sufficient automation will no longer create more jobs than it destroys. The question is how to figure out where that point lies. Since it hinges on determining future unknown activies change character – it’s pretty much impossible to answer.

        I came to this conclusion from observing people. A whole lot are not capable or unwilling to take on the so called “creative” occupations that are supposedly their venue for success. Indeed, a “creative” marketplace is easily saturated and most participants cannot generate enough interest to cover their costs (see most app stores, internet video channels, independant publishers). So the bulk of people will still want a traditional form of employment which does not depend on their individual ability to innovate.

        If the market for the new goods and services no longer produces sufficient demand for the line worker types, what do they do?

        1. Ken Shultz

          Partially, I think a lot of people are content sitting on the couch all day, watching TV, playing games, etc. We’re raising whole generations of people who think procreating and raising children isn’t what life is about. Take that all away and status may become passe.

          If car ownership goes out the window, even?

          https://techcrunch.com/2016/03/14/lyft-gm-express-drive/

          If we’re just all using a Lyft/GM type service for an autonomous car that we don’t even own, we’re not socially stratifying on that either. No more hot rod culture. No more I’ve got a Mercedes and you don’t.

          When I hire people, I’m looking for desire. I can motivate people with desire, ambition. If the end of religion means the end of the protestant work ethic, then I want to hire preachers’ kids. I don’t care if they believe the world is 6,000 years old. Do they believe that success comes from working hard and that success is something other than sitting around and being entertained?

          If it’s not about becoming successful so you can attract a mate, have kids, achieve status, etc., then I guess they damn well better legalize marijuana. Better do something to keep those people nice and content.

  • Hammercorps

    May have already been posted, but a rather entertaining interview with Nicholas Sarwak: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-live-show-with-jason-stapleton/e/51310071?autoplay=true

    1. Just Say’n

      The podcast with Tom Woods the day before with Jason Stapleton was good too. Nick Sarwark is a disgrace. Why do all Nick’s in the liberty movement suck (noted piece of shit Nick Gillespie, noted asshat Nick Sarwark)?

    2. Gilmore

      the yb version

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqhnkzp5lN4

      which i think helps because you can see nick’s “im desperately reaching here and i know it” facial expressions when he tries to rationalize how calling people Nazis is OK, but “playing the victim card” when people accuse you of being a nazi is not.

      1. Gilmore

        “yt”, youtube

  • Just Say’n

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-beating-in-berkeley/article/2009498#

    Best article you’ll read all week (and the only thing written in the Weekly Standard that I would ever read). Matt LaBash destroys the narrative. Virtue signalers hardest hit

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Thanks for that. Good read.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Antifa is purely an exercise in rage and mob violence as a cathartic release. There’s no intelligence or reasoning behind it other than “We’ll beat your ass because we can get away with it and because it makes us feel better about ourselves.”

      It’s Hoffer’s theories in action.

    3. That’s awesome. That might be the last thing I share before I drop Facebook for good.

      I honestly can’t say that I would shed a single tear if terminally bad things start happening to these Antifa fucks. They’re vile little bullies. Maybe some of them are redeemable; god bless the people who bother to try. Me, I say the onus is on them to develop some moral accountability before the option is permanently removed by people of a less forgiving nature.

    4. Badolph Hilter

      If becoming a liberty movement fixture doesn’t work out for Gibson, he has a promising future as a UC Berkeley admissions officer.

      Mmmmm, ascerbic.

    5. Count Potato

      “”But when it came to Joey Gibson’s Liberty Weekend, enter Nancy Pelosi, who seems to be pining for girlhood activism days, as she’s billed this “Resistance Summer.” Gibson secured a permit for his free speech rally to be held at Crissy Field, a former Army airfield next to the Golden Gate Bridge. But Pelosi loudly suggested the permit be pulled, saying the National Park Service should reflect on its “capacity to protect the public during such a toxic” event, which she termed a “white supremacist rally.” The fact that over two-thirds of the event’s scheduled speakers were minorities, that race wasn’t being discussed, and that the event was billed a “day of freedom, spirituality, unity, peace, and patriotism” didn’t seem to cut much ice with her.

      No matter, Pelosi had lots of company. Sen. Dianne Feinstein wrote a letter to the Park Service, expressing her dismay that Crissy Field “will be used as a venue for Patriot Prayer’s incitement, hate and intimidation.” The mayors of San Francisco and Berkeley denounced the group, too. Conservative news outlets subsequently revealed that Berkeley’s mayor, Jesse Arreguin, was a Facebook member of BAMN (By Any Means Necessary), one of the antifa affinity groups that had helped trash his own city during the Milo riots. Yet this didn’t stop him from announcing that the city had printed up 20,000 “Berkeley Stands United Against Hate” posters for its citizens, not in anticipation of antifa’s next vandalizing, sucker-punching Viking raid, but to put everyone on notice about the Patriot Prayer rally. Perhaps Arreguin was worried antifa would unfriend him on Facebook.”

      That two of the Democrats most experienced politicians, Pelosi and Feinstein, resort to “everyone I don’t like is a nazi” is just pathetic.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        They can’t be bothered to actually learn about the people they’re slandering is more like it.

    6. thepasswordispassword

      More like Matt LaBash the Fash.

      That was a really solid piece.

  • Ken Shultz

    “Journalists reflect on perhaps developing ethics after being shamed on live TV, decide that their careers are more important.”

    A lot of the coverage really is disaster porn, and some of it is really tasteless. However, there’s a big difference between tastelessness and being unethical, and the difference is consent, choice, respect for agency.

    This woman was asked a question, but when it became clear she didn’t want to be interviewed–that they didn’t have her consent to exploit her or her child’s misery for their own ends–they stopped.

    I’ve gone off on both ENB and The Boy Blunder for what I perceived to be failures on the ethical side of that equation. In one situation, a girl who was sexually assaulted, etc. had her picture apparently lifted off of her Facebook page and was used as the graphic for a post about all the ways in which she’d been victimized. Again, the line between tastelessness and unethical was about consent. When I inquired about whether the victim’s consent had been obtained to use her Facebook photo, I was told that the girl’s father had supplied the same image to the police–apparently when she was missing? It didn’t look like consent to me. It looked like the girl’s Facebook photo had been lifted without her consent.

    Again, I’m not talking about legality, here. I’m talking about ethics. Whatever else being a libertarian is, it’s in addition to understanding the difference between legality and ethics. I don’t care if slavery and the drug war are legal–that doesn’t make it ethical.

    In The Boy Blunder’s case, he posted the video of a mentally handicapped kid being beaten and humiliated by a crew of bullies who apparently filmed themselves doing it and then uploaded it to YouTube. The ethical question that time, again, was about consent. That kid didn’t consent to being beaten and humiliated and have it published on YouTube, and if he was underage or mentally handicapped, then his consent wasn’t only absent–it was both ethically and legally unobtainable.

    The Boy Blunder posted the video to the site which shall not be named anyway. Tastelessness is beside the point. The ethical problem from a libertarian standpoint was the lack of consent. YouTube took the video down. Whether that was for the lack of consent of the victim, tastelessness, or liability considerations, they behaved better than The Boy Blunder.

    The journalist who starts an interview, is denied consent, apologizes, and stops the interview may be behaving tastelessly, but the ethics are present and functioning properly. The journalist who apparently disregards any concern for the consent of the victim and adds to the public humiliation of the victim anyway by using their photo anyway has failed ethically.

    1. John

      I thought the infamous video of Ray Rice playing knockout with his wife was one of the most exploitive and unethical things I have ever seen in the media. Rice was prosecuted for doing that. And whatever anyone else thinks of the results of it, his wife and the State of New Jersey, who are the only ones whose opinion matters, were fine with the result. So media gets that video after the case was finished and without the victim’s consent plays it over and over again for weeks. They all claim to be so concerned about victims of domestic violence. Yet, they happily humiliated Rice’s wife by playing a take of her being knocked out to the entire world without her consent.

      1. Ken Shultz

        Yeah, they always spin their exploitation as a public concern of some kind. A lot of people think the motive justifies the means.

        And if what they did was legal, then that’s what it was.

        Libertarian journalists, on the other hand, shouldn’t need to be told that the law doesn’t make things ethical or that our ethics center on consent.

        The Jerry Springer show is tasteless. All of his guests consent to being on the show.

        The News Media somehow think they’re above the Jerry Springer show, but they’re showing people’s wives getting knocked around without any consent whatsoever?

        This is from 11 years ago.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DX4nsobHW8

        Could have been made yesterday.

      2. commodious spittoon

        Didn’t Rice’s wife end up pleading with the NFL not to ban her husband? No, spousal abuse is never acceptable, but the thought of emasculating the guy and reducing her standard of living as a result never sat right with me. Maybe that’s a little cynical, but in the end both abuser and victim were punished. We can all be as uncomfortable as we like talking in transactional terms about someone else’s marriage, but that’s cold comfort for his wife.

        (I think. I never bothered reading up on it afterward.)

        1. John

          If people had a beef over that case, it was with the State of New Jersey. The guy committed a crime and paid the price for it. Why should he not be able to go back to making his living after he does? What is so special about being in the NFL versus any other job? I don’t see anything. People were angry that Rice got off easy. Well, he got off easy because the state prosecutor and the judge in the case decided to let him off easy. If someone didn’t like that, they should have taken it up with them, not tried to get the NFL to ensure he couldn’t work anymore.

          1. I think the prosecutor’s decision came from what was not on the elevator video – what happened before that point. As I recall, she was wailing on him for a while and it was as they got in the elevator that he finally snapped. It would have made for a big, ugly jury trial that they weren’t sure to win, especially since I believe she pretty much admitted to that being what happened.

          2. John

            Yes. Like nearly all of these sorts of cases, the facts were not as clear as the media made them sound. Ultimately, if the victim of a crime is okay with a sentence, you better have one hell of a compelling reason to make a beef about, because unless it’s murder or some miscarriage of justice that reflects on the entire justice system, it is really none of your business if you are not the victim. If you are not the victim, your feeling that the state didn’t exact enough revenge on the defendant really shouldn’t carry any weight.

          3. commodious spittoon

            When a woman hits a man, it’s preemptive self-defense.

          4. Q Continuum

            She’s fighting rape culture/toxic masculinity.

        2. Not an Economist

          The reason Rice never got signed was because he was at the end of his career. He might have gotten another shot if the video hadn’t been released, but probably not a big one and certainly not a guaranteed one.

    2. Q Continuum

      There are dozens of much more blatant ethical violations being committed daily by these “journalists” (reporting lies? utterly transparent partisan bias? omitting important facts that completely change the context of the situation?). The entire journalistic profession has been wiping its collective ass with the code of ethics for years, why would they stop now?

      1. Ken Shultz

        Just before Trump was elected, Gallup reported its annual survey of people’s opinion of the news:

        Americans’ trust and confidence in the mass media “to report the news fully, accurately and fairly” has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup polling history, with 32% saying they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the media. This is down eight percentage points from last year.

        —-Gallup, September 14, 2016

        http://www.gallup.com/poll/195542/americans-trust-mass-media-sinks-new-low.aspx

        I don’t know whether people didn’t trust the media about Trump because they didn’t trust the media or whether other people thought Trump was good specifically because the media hated him–either way, the only public institution with a lower approval rating than Trump at the time he was elected was the News Media.

        Every time I see a journalist talk about Trump’s low approval rating, I can’t help but think to myself, “And the only person America has less confidence in than Trump is you”.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Congress is more hated than either, surely.

          1. The Zenome Project

            Well sure, but in some ways that’s by design due to the high amount of checks and balances. Congress is therefore about individual appeal, not group appeal.

        2. The Zenome Project

          I think Trump’s a lot more popular than the polls make him out to be. Judging from how steady the Rasmussen poll has been stuck around the 40-45% mark, I think he has at least 40% of the country locked up as his voting base. Getting the other 10+% to join in before an election isn’t terribly hard when you have that strong a base.

          1. The Zenome Project

            Also note that unlike Obama, it isn’t socially favorable to say that you approve of Trump.

      2. thom

        I’ve noticed that reporters, even for large metro daily papers with circulations in the hundreds of thousands, have basically abandoned doing any actual work. I routinely read stories that omit basic and important facts, such as “Apartment Building Burns Down on North Side”, but fails to note basic facts like where on the North Side it happened.

        Honestly, I don’t even think that reporters have access to telephones anymore, because they don’t seem to ever use them. The entire profession has moved from simply dishonest to being both dishonest and lazy.

        I’ve also noticed that reporters often no longer note on their online editions when they have changed the story (An earlier version of this story, etc, etc). Instead, they will make changes, additions, or deletions to their story and will not note that it has changed.

  • Q Continuum

    Glibs, are you looking to bring some color in your otherwise drab and pointless existence? Build your very own “ghost AR” with no serial number today!

    http://www.polymer80.com

    No CNC, milling or advanced equipment needed! All you need is a drill press and you’re good, it even comes with the bits you need!

    In all seriousness, this is a fun project; I put mine together a few months ago. Check your local laws, but absent any state/local restrictions this is totes legal.

    1. John

      There is something very satisfying about having something you made yourself. And it is also very satisfying to have a firearm that the government has no idea exists. I consider it a point of pride that I have never bought a firearm in my life. I have gotten them all as gifts/inheritance or trade with friends and family. All of them, not that I have a lot but I have a few, are totally below the government radar. And I would never have it any other way.

    2. Pat

      Pretty cool. Any risks compared with a traditional 80% lower in terms of safety or durability?

      1. Allegorical, but a buddy of mine built two AR-15s, one with a cast aluminum lower, and one with a poly lower. He prefers the poly for weight, and after a few years of regular use at the range doesn’t notice a difference between the two. I can’t speak to long-term performance or heavy use, but word on the street seems to be that if you buy a quality poly lower it’ll last you just as long as an aluminum.

        1. When the poly AR lowers were first coming out there were some people complaining about the buffer tube housing being too thin, but newer ones seem to have fixed that problem.

      2. Q Continuum

        I haven’t had any issues with mine at all, though time will tell. The only part that’s polymer is the lower receiver and that doesn’t receive much abuse so I don’t think it will be a problem.

    3. I did a Glock 17 and it turned out great. In MD, if you’re legally allowed to *own* the gun–not *purchase* per se, just *own*–you can legally build it. I’m planning on picking up an AR lower because I can’t be bothered to do the milling on the aluminum one I’ve got.

      1. libertarianjoe

        Same here, also a MD resident. Mine works great, even with steel case ammo. Probably put a few thousand rounds through it by now. I’m considering doing one of the glock 19 polymer 80 lowers next.

        I recently snagged a complete, MD legal AR for under $400, so i decided against the 80%. You would still need to assemble an 80% as a HBAR or AR pistol in MD.

    4. DOOMco

      I would enjoy a pink ar.
      The G19 frame looks cool too.

  • mexican sharpshooter

    In SPORTZBALL, the Astros just acquired Justin Verlander, signalling that they will not be happy with a cursory appearance in the ALCS, and picked up a win at the Trop. White Sox and Orioles lose, Twins and Cubbies win.

    You know, the Dodgers lost–again. In fact they got swept by the Diamondbacks yesterday. Its cool though, because nobody in the national sportsball media wants to talk about teams from AZ. Ever.

    1. Q Continuum

      BUT MUH KARDINULZ!!

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        No. They want to talk about the Seahawks, and whatever retarded thing that came out of Richard Sherman’s mouth.

        1. Q Continuum

          Growing up in ABQ, everyone was either a Broncos or a Cowboys fan, due to proximity. I remember asking my parents why nobody supported the Cardinals. My mom told me “even people in Phoenix don’t support the Cardinals”.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Your mom is correct. They are all Packers fans here. Though going to the Superbowl a few years back did create a fanbase that previously wasn’t there.

          2. Q Continuum

            Damn upper Midwest transplants.

    2. Idle Hands

      I rooting for you guys to win the WC game and sweep the Dodgers.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        I’m just rooting for the Dodgers and Yankees falling short. Is that petty? Yes. I’m a petty sports fan.

        1. MikeS

          Count me in for your petty party

  • DEG

    Brake for moose

    A moose that wandered on to Route 101 early Thursday was struck by three vehicles, and a fourth car got into an accident trying to avoid the mayhem, according to New Hampshire State Police.

    1. John

      Moose are magnificent animals. Shame it got hit. They are also huge. I can’t imagine what hitting one would do to your car.

      1. Pat

        I can’t imagine what hitting one would do to your car.

        A deer is bad enough.

      2. Moose are deadlier than deer for one nasty reason – their higher center of mass means that when you take the legs out from under them, they go right through the windshield, and the corner posts of the average car can’t take the hit, so it opens up like a tin can with a ton of mooseflesh headed for your face.

        1. Q Continuum

          Many more people are hurt/killed by moose than bears.

      3. Suthenboy

        I used to know a Canadian who swore a bull moose turned his VW Bug over onto it’s roof and scooted it around in the snow for ten minutes. He said it was terrifying. Mating season or something. Apparently it was pissed off and hopped up on hormones. I guess when it couldn’t get him out of the car to stomp him into butter it got bored and wandered away.

        1. John

          During the rut, male moose are nuts. I have a friend who has lived up in Alaska for about 20 years who calls them the “Charlie Manson of the Forrest”. Unless it is a cow with a calf, normally they are pretty docile. But during the rut, they are nothing to screw with. And the cows will go moose on your ass if you somehow get between them and their calves.

        2. John Titor

          Probably the brain parasites. They go nuts and lose their fear of humans.

    2. Was the moose’s body sent back to his relatives in Frostbite Falls?

      1. Suthenboy

        I read that as Frostbite Balls.

        1. Q Continuum

          Definitely something to avoid…

  • DOOMco

    I swear if they destroy a bunch of good good-looking old british cars i will lose it.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      I swear if they destroy a bunch of good-running old British cars they won’t be very busy.

      1. DOOMco

        at this point, it’s easier to save them. lots of options for engine replacements, and we understand wiring now. at least I do.

      2. Trolleric the Goth

        like the *one* good BL car that James May bought?

        once that one brown Austin Princess is scrapped they’ll be done

  • Juvenile Bluster

    Hey, y’all remember that local story I posted last night, the one about the cops abusing and arresting a nurse for not doing an illegal blood draw? That local story?

    Guess which site has their own story up about this local story. C’mon.

    1. Vhyrus

      It wouldn’t be a certain site we’re all very familiar with and make fun of on a regular basis, would it?

      1. bacon-magic

        Can’t be they don’t do local stories.

      2. DOOMco

        pornhub? oh you said make fun of.

        Salon?

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Everyday Feminism?

        2. Q Continuum

          I’m finding a lot of videos with nurses, but they keep taking their clothes off before they can do any procedures…

          1. DOOMco

            But do the procedures work?

          2. Q Continuum

            Oh it works every time. Every. Time.

          3. bacon-magic

            Works for me.

      3. MikeS

        You mean the one that no one wants to say the name of for some reason?

        1. Vhyrus

          What you did there. I see it.

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          Wait I know this game. DRINK!

          1. commodious spittoon

            So is “glib” the new DRINK word?

          2. Q Continuum

            “Lonely” “pathetic” “basement dwelling” “alcoholic” I think any of those work.

          3. commodious spittoon

            Fuck, those words are rolling off the tongue as soon as I wake up.

          4. MikeS

            Don’t forget “lazy” and “pervert”

    2. commodious spittoon

      Wasn’t around for it last night, but did you all grasp the fact that the patient cops showed up to draw blood from was not their suspect, who had died in the accident, but the truck driver who their suspect plowed into?

      It all started when a suspect speeding away from police in a pickup truck on a local highway smashed head-on into a truck driver, as local media reported. Medics sedated the truck driver, who was severely burned, and took him to the University of Utah Hospital. He arrived in a comatose state, according to the Deseret News. The suspect died in the crash.

      So when Officer Douchebag asks Officer Shitforbrains,

      “So why don’t we just write a search warrant[?]”

      and Officer Shitforbrains replies,

      “They don’t have PC,”

      they’re not talking about a procedural issue in getting a judge to write off on a warrant. They’re talking about the fact that there’s no way a judge would sign off on drawing blood from the victim of the suspect the cops were chasing.

      Which tells me that the cops might have been worried that their chase would be implicated in the accident the suspect caused.

      1. thom

        There was something in the article I read about how the police claimed they were trying to protect the truck driver. Which makes no sense – why would the police do that?

        Seems more likely they were hoping something would turn up in his blood that would allow them to hang part of the fault on him. A fishing expedition.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        That’s 100% what it was. Trying to find some way to pin it on the truck driver so they don’t get sued.

        1. DOOMco

          she will have a nice payday, and the truck driver will too I hope.

          1. DOOMco

            of course SLD, the taxpayers shouldn’t be the ones paying.

    3. Juvenile Bluster

      Something I missed last night, from the video, the two asshole cops talking to each other.

      As he stands in the hospital parking lot after the arrest, Payne says to another officer that he wonders how this event will affect an off-duty job transporting patients for an ambulance company.

      “I’ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,” Payne says.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I think it’s safe to assume that he’ll get fired from that job, but not the one he SHOULD be fired from.

    4. commodious spittoon

      One of the commenters under the wapo treatment suggested that the nurse is an idiot, because the officers were trying to protect the truck driver against a theoretical civil suit authored by the estate of the dead suspect by preemptively proving his sobriety with a timely tox screen.

      Imagine how fucked in the head you’d have to be to think that cops are not only going to go out of their way to help some random jerkoff defend himself against a speculative lawsuit that makes no sense even in theory, but that they’ll get personally involved like a L&O detective and break the law and put their jobs on the line and open themselves up to a much less speculative civil suit, all in the name of protecting this random jerkoff.

      How fucking stupid, how big a copsucker, would you have to be to believe that?

  • The Late P Brooks

    I swear if they destroy a bunch of good good-looking old british cars i will lose it.

    Soak a BMC product in brackish water for a few days, and you not not find anything but the window glass and headlight lenses when the tide goes out.

  • The Late P Brooks

    *might* not

  • MikeS

    *Shameless plug for a new movie set in my state

    Dig it: ‘Valley of Bones’ rolls out North Dakota noir

    The independent feature-length film is mostly shot in western North Dakota and does a great job using the landscape and the oil boom atmosphere as a potent backdrop.

    Opening in 300 screens nationwide today, it creates a North Dakota noir that has been waiting since the Bakken started buzzing.

    1. Interest rating – ambivalent.

      Sorry, Mike.

      1. DOOMco

        ambivalent
        Mike, that’s probably some of the highest praise I’ve seen from UCS.

        1. MikeS

          He does seem more excited than normal

      2. MikeS

        So, you’re saying there’s a chance…

    2. Fatty Bolger

      Looks interesting. Hope it’s good.

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      Will there be any wood chippers in this one?

    1. bacon-magic

      It’s a spoof but probably 99% accurate.

      1. DOOMco

        yes.

    2. Q Continuum

      Nice. I like that they also purposely chose surroundings and clothes to make it look like a low-budget Taliban video.

  • DOOMco

    Brett, is your brother moving here?

    1. Brett L

      Yeah. Forget the town name. Somewhere between Denver and Boulder, closer to Boulder. He just traded in his Honda Accord for a used Tacoma and hooked up the UHaul. I think he’s staying with friends tonight and making the drive in 3 legs.

      1. DOOMco

        Nice! Louisville is probably closest to me. He’ll fit right in with a tacoma.

      2. DOOMco

        Forgot. If he needs to crash in Colorado for some reason, let me know. I have room.

  • commodious spittoon
    1. DOOMco

      iF YOU ARE ADDiCTED TO CAT AnD DOG YOU HAVE A nAnO CHiP On YOUR BODY

    2. CPRM

      This guy makes some valid points; “If you are addicted to cat or dog you have a nanochip in your body”

      1. TK

        That is not true. *glances around nervously*

    3. Roger Wilco

      As long as we’re allowed to be as weird or crazy as we want (and don’t hurt others doing so) we’ll still be the best country in the world

      1. commodious spittoon

        For sure. Although Russia seems like they have a lock on DGAF nothing to lose batshit weirdness.

    4. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Which one of you people is cashing in on pictures of my truck?

    5. ChipsnSalsa

      Did he have a flyer / newsletter attached to the truck?

      asking for a friend.

      1. DOOMco

        I don’t think he has a website.

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          I would assume this newsletter would be typed on a typewriter and copied with a mimeograph machine. Possibly delivered by unmarked courier.

    6. Vhyrus

      Schizophrenia is a helluva drug.

  • The Late P Brooks

    Somewhere between Denver and Boulder, closer to Boulder.

    My condolences.

    1. DOOMco

      hey!

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