Friday Afternoon Apocalypse Links

A REAL Heather

It looks like the Road Warrior on my FB feed. I haven’t sawn off my shotgun just yet, but I am getting the bunker ready. Everyone in Florida stay safe. The rest of you Glibs go do something appropriately stupid and dangerous for us this weekend. I’m sure there will be some epic Florida Man stories to come out of this one. Hopefully, the funny and slightly painful, not the all-time Darwin Award winning. Let’s do… the links!

Is there nothing Hollywood won’t chew up and spit out an inferior version of? The musical was bad enough, but for fuck’s sake? These people are the new Heathers? Not a one could carry Heather Chandler’s jock-strap.

Well shit

A small reminder that Floridian aren’t the only ones suffering. (Not a Patriots link)

Latest Fox News report on Great Korea. I was 90% certain they got confused by DPRK News Service, but apparently not. So sexist to only call a female politician a “political prostitute”.

They say music makes sex better. They’ve never accidentally left their whole music library on random during sex.

Should I go with the stupidly obvious, or just pretty obvious, or the old, tired standard?

Comments

440 responses to “Friday Afternoon Apocalypse Links”

  1. Should I go with the stupidly obvious, or just pretty obvious, or the old, tired standard?

    Well? What did you decide?

    1. egould310

      I’m going Center of the Storm. https://youtu.be/b1TrFugkEq4

        1. egould310

          So very Ted S.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I wouldn’t be surprised to learn the the CIA uses that song for torture.

  2. Chipwooder

    That show will NOT be so very.

    1. Chipwooder

      How do you even come across such a video?

      1. jesse.in.mb

        That way lies madness, friendo. It is better not to know.

      2. Bobarian LMD

        How does his YouTube suggestion list not get reported as a toxic superfund site?

    2. Florida Man

      At first I thought it was too short to bate to, but I managed.

      1. bacon-magic

        Loop it man.

        1. Badolph Hilter

          I…. assume you’re referring to the video.

    3. Q Continuum

      They wanna kill her, then fuck her? Niiiiiiiiiice.

      1. antisthenes

        Hey, you can’t spell necromancy without “romance”. Well, “romanc”.

    4. Badolph Hilter

      Well, the title was good.

    5. bacon-magic

      *lightning bolt*
      *lightning bolt*

      1. Fatty Bolger

        I call it my “magic missile.”

    6. Gdragon

      That looks like one of those old Misty Mundae movies that used to be on Skinemax.

      1. I wish you were Sundae.

  3. Florida Man

    A small reminder that Floridian aren’t the only ones suffering. (Not a Patriots link)

    Leave it to a libertarian to shove messicans into the Lynx.

  4. american socialist

    I don’t think Jonah Goldberg is the one who gets it.

    The so called true conservatives who are never trump just want to bloviate about being conservative while not actually doing anything despite now having 3 branches. They had no problem repealing Obamacare prior to trump. It is obvious they wanted Hillary so they could just be lazy, enjoy the high life and make excuses

    The trump deal was a warning shot to those who obviously talk about conservativism but don’t want to deliver spending cuts, Obamacare repeal or tax reform

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451176/donald-trump-democrats-deal-indicates-he-clueless

    1. american socialist

      I can’t stand some of the national review and their self righteous bloviating as if they are smarter than everyone else

    2. R C Dean

      It shows that Goldberg is clueless, is what it shows. Here’s what I think the Trumpian calculation was on going to the Dems:

      (1) The Republicans have shown zip, zero, nada inclination to engage in any kind of spending or budget reform. Ergo, there is no difference in the outcome between a Dem spending deal and a Repub spending deal. How the spending bill comes out will not be effected by whether the Dems or the Repubs do it.

      (2) The Republicans have shown no motivation whatsoever to enact Trump’s agenda on major items – taxes, immigration, healthcare. He’s not going to get anything out of them as long as they don’t pass Republican bills, so they are, again, no better than the Dems when it comes to advancing his agenda.

      (3) So its really just tactical/negotiations who he does the spending bill with. By going to the Dems, he might pick up a little something on the other side of the aisle that might help later, and may deliver a wake-up call to the Repubs that they need to work with him, because they aren’t the only game in town. By going to the Repubs, he just does the same thing that has failed so far, so why not try something different.

      The Repubs have managed to turn control of Congress and the White House into a reason to marginalize them and take them out of the conversation. Think about that. They are so bad at advancing anything remotely like a Republican agenda that a Republican President actually is better off sidelining them and working with the Dems.

      1. Q Continuum

        Next step, immigration “reform” worked out with the Dems that includes amnesty, no wall and some pittance of increase to CBP/ICE as a bone to the few Republicans paying attention.

      2. Spartan Dad

        That’s pretty much what Trump tweeted. He berated the Repubs for failing to do anything about Obamacare and then warned them to get their shit together for tax reform.

      3. antisthenes

        Trump isn’t even a Republican president, except in name. They’re so bad at politics that they can’t even win their own primary. They should spend more time taking advice from libertarians on policy, and less time taking advice from Libertarians on political strategy.

  5. Heroic Mulatto

    They say music makes sex better. They’ve never accidentally left their whole music library on random during sex.

    Bullshit. There’s nothing like hitting it from the back and then hearing this come on.

    1. Q Continuum
      1. DOOMco

        top comment.

        This was the first dance at my wedding – so romantic xx

      2. Badolph Hilter

        I retract my comment about the LARP’ing video having a good title. The bar just got raised.

          1. Badolph Hilter

            Bit aggro for me, but certainly “outside the box”.

      3. Sean

        Looks like that family friendly certification is gone.

        1. DOOMco

          hey!

          1. Gustave Lytton

            Not to worry, we’re still good

            OVERALL RESULT – GLIBERTARIANS.COM IS FAMILY FRIENDLY.

            All sources consider glibertarians.com trustworthy and family friendly. Website glibertarians.com has a credible reputation.
            Last full test run on: 2017-09-08

          2. Badolph Hilter

            Fuck yeah!

          3. Diane Reynolds

            Family Friendly was code for ‘gay friendly’.

          4. Badolph Hilter

            A lot of things suddenly make sense.

          5. jesse.in.mb

            What was that? I can’t hear you over Sister Sledge.

        2. Pan Zagloba

          If you have an adblocker, turn it off and it should show up in its full glory!

          1. Badolph Hilter

            Yeah, like I’m really gonna turn my ad-blocker off. Pfft.

            Although, I am getting kind of pissed that more and more sites are adding code to block you if they detect your ad-blocker. Yes, obviously I just fuck right off most of the time but once in a while that’s not an option. The fact that they can detect and block them tells me the adblockers are losing ground technically.

          2. DOOMco

            I will never go to a site that has that. I don’t mind ads. we wanted them on the side, silent, and last to load. or at least would be okay with them.
            None of that ever happened. they pop up new windows. they autoplay and kill my ears until I find the right tab. They got worse at every junction.

          3. Pan Zagloba

            Live dangerously!

            Or, more sensibly, whitelist glibertarians.com. Don’t worry, if they want to compromise your…everything… they’ll send STEVE SMITH instead of fucking with JavaScript.

          4. Badolph Hilter

            You’re going in the wrong direction. I’m busy trying to figure out how to block the images sloopy posts on the main page. I want to be less offended, not more.

          5. I want to be less offended, not more.

            Brother, are you at the wrong place…

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Full orchestra version

      https://youtu.be/yadjlomgF2Q

    3. Roger Wilco

      This, and I sing along with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsB3IfttE50

      1. Roger Wilco

        this was criticized as “presuming too much” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7_Od9CmTu0

  6. Negroni Please

    So I moved to Tampa two days ago and so far Florida reeeeaaaaallly fucking sucks. We’re in the Carrollwood area of Tampa, so outside even evac zone E. According to google our house is 53 ft above sea level and we’ve got food/water/ammo for at least a couple of weeks of apocalypse. What we don’t have is storm shutters or plywood . The wife wants to fly the fuck out tomorrow, but I tend to think meh. We probably won’t die. Of course, she is a lot smarter than me….

    So Florida natives, how fucked are we?

    1. Chipwooder

      Amazing that a)this was published in Time b)this was published at all:

      Western politicians should stop pretending that extremism and terrorism have nothing to do with Islam. There is a clear relationship between fundamentalism, terrorism, and the basic assumptions of Islamic orthodoxy. So long as we lack consensus regarding this matter, we cannot gain victory over fundamentalist violence within Islam. Radical Islamic movements are nothing new. They’ve appeared again and again throughout our own history in Indonesia. The West must stop ascribing any and all discussion of these issues to “Islamophobia.” Or do people want to accuse me — an Islamic scholar — of being an Islamophobe too?

      1. Cool link, Gilmore.

      2. Chipwooder

        Obviously that wasn’t meant to go here

      3. Gustave Lytton

        Apparently Chipwooder thinks roving bands of Muslim terrorists will be Negroni’s biggest problem.

        1. Negroni Please

          nah dude. I said I had plenty of ammo

      4. The Last American Hero

        He thinks they won’t. How cute.

      5. R C Dean

        Or do people want to accuse me — an Islamic scholar — of being an Islamophobe too?

        “To know Islam, is to loathe Islam.” You can be both an Islamic scholar and an Islamophobe, you know.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      *Probably* not fucked in Tampa, unless it takes an unexpected track (heading up the west coast instead of going in near Everglades City as expected).

      1. stilljustcarol

        She’s moved west. Tampa is going to take a hit. I’m just hoping she slows down a bit before she gets to us.

        1. Badolph Hilter

          Fingers crossed for you sjc. Y’all stocked up on food, booze, and ammo?

          1. Tundra

            And peanut butter.

          2. stilljustcarol

            I’ve got my crunchy and creamy all lined up.

          3. stilljustcarol

            You betcha. Putting up the shutters tomorrow and then the rest is out of my hands. I had some menfolk explain how to use the generator so as long as I can find gas I should be able to keep the fridge going and maybe a fan or two. I’m still more worried about water where I live than wind. I’ve been through a Cat 3 before so I figure I can do it again.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      2 days ago?

      Did the seller not disclose the hurricane?

      1. Negroni Please

        the wife moved here a month ago. I had loose ends to tie up back in Texas first. Besides what’s more Florida Man than packing up and moving INTO a hurricane?

        1. Q Continuum

          Driving nonstop cause you’re on a meth binge.

          1. egould310

            Wearing only adult diapers.

          2. Q Continuum

            While blasting your AK-47 at the moon out the driver’s window.

          3. The driver’s window? I thought that was what the “Moon Roof” was for!

          4. egould310

            With only the guitar solo from Freebird on a continuous tape loop. https://youtu.be/0_5H0EVl1G8

          5. Tundra

            T-Tops.

            Come on, people!

          6. R C Dean

            That’s a home-made T-Top, using your cousin’s Sawzall, with cardboard covers held on with duct tape.

        2. Badolph Hilter

          So in a way, it’s her fault.

    4. Florida Man

      You won’t be able to fly tomorrow, most likely. Should be down to cat3, which we laugh at like Lt. Dan, by the time it gets to Tampa. Maybe Cat2.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Are there good rates at the Gaylord this week?

        1. Florida Man

          Dunno. But I heard Port Orleans had so many cancellations they are using it as a shelter.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Just checked. They’re closed through the 15th. Probably also being used as a shelter.

    5. Brett L

      You guys can come over to Pinellas and hang out. We have partial plywood on the ground floor, an air mattress, and are 61′ above sea level. Send me an email at brett_bolt(at)yahoo.com if you want to connect.

      1. Florida Man

        Pinellas? And get shot. No thank you.

      2. jesse.in.mb

        Someone forgot to pick up bath saltz and is hoping y’all will bring some over when you crash at his place.

      3. Negroni Please

        Thanks for the invite Brett. I think we’re gonna ride it out here, but if our house gets smashed we might come invade your house. Likewise if our house stays solid and the storm throws a car through your house or something then come on over and crash here. You can catch me at guthrum at gmail.

    6. stilljustcarol

      The Carrollwood area should be fairly safe. You aren’t going to have water damage and while you’re going to see some wind unless you have big trees close to the house you should be okay. I’ll think happy thoughts for you and yours.

      1. I’m Here To Help

        This.

        I’m also in Carrollwood, and our house is at over 80′, so no fears from water. Not bothering boarding up windows, and about the only real prep work I’m doing on the house is getting the items that could be blown around put up and trimming back a branch from an old oak that hangs precariously over the house. Actually wouldn’t mind too much if the storm blows off a fair bit of the roof – then the insurance would pay for the new roof that we are putting on rather than us!

        I’ve sat through a fair number of hurricanes in the past, and unless you are in a flood zone it really isn’t too dangerous.

        Let’s keep in touch after the storm – if we have power, we could house some Glibs that don’t for a while. My email is shedendbluegmailcom.

        1. Negroni Please

          sweet. you just made my wife very happy to hear that you aren’t doing more than we can.

          Absolutely. If my place survives with power, then any and all are welcome here. Also if anyone local needs a hand with manual labor after this shitshow passes, then I am happy to help out.

    7. Fatty Bolger

      You’re probably not going to die or anything, but… is it worth the cost of a plane ticket to not have your wife seriously pissed off at you if the storm hits your area?

      I’ve been through category 1 & 2, and while it’s not too bad, it can be unnerving for people who don’t like storms. I know quite a few people who were in South Dade for Andrew, and it was absolutely terrifying for them.

  7. Dr. Fronkensteen
    1. invisible finger

      McCloskey is losing it. Had me until “The economic nationalism of the new Alt-Right “.

      Stop right there. Protectionism isn’t some new right-wing schtick, it’s the freaking heart of unionism which is still a leftist cornerstone. Just because the Dems ran a golem like HRC and the GOP was too stupid to see they were getting played by a RINO is no reason to now stuff unionism onto the right. “Alt-right” is just the name leftists give to their members that occasionally leave the plantation.

      1. robc

        I think he lost it about 1995.

        1. invisible finger

          “The change” didn’t affect the writing before. But once one starts using the jargon/epithets of the opposition, one has been assimilated by them.

  8. Juvenile Bluster

    I was hopeful because the forecast models (and the official NHC forecast) had moved towards the southwest coast (meaning we only get fucked instead of megafucked), but just found out that the Weather Channel is stationing Jim Cantore in Miami, so we’re back to being megafucked I’m sure.

  9. DOOMco

    I can’t find membership numbers in any place but “good PR press releases” Gilmore.
    maybe the way back machine and wikipedia #’s?

    1. tarran

      I really wouldn’t worry about it. The LP is as utterly irrelevant today as it was a year ago.

      1. DOOMco

        I want the data to be able to prove that LP leadership is harming the LP.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          All the more reason they wouldn’t release it.

  10. Q Continuum

    To any fellow Glibs out there that do Data Science:

    My employer has recently offered to pay for a certification by Data Science Council of America (www.dasca.org). Does anyone know if this is a legit operation, or is it a fly-by-night certification mill?

    1. Playa Manhattan

      “My employer has recently offered to pay”

      Is the answer you are looking for.

      1. Q Continuum

        True, I’ll take advantage of it one way or another, however if there’s a more legitimate cert out there, I could argue they pay for it instead.

    2. tarran

      I’ve never heard of them before, but a brief look at their website did not set off any red flags.

      1. Q Continuum

        Cool, thanks.

    3. Gustave Lytton

      Browse through Linkedin and see who else holds the specific certs. I didn’t find anything in job postings so YMMV. Also, what Playa said.

  11. Michael

    Is it un-libertarian of me to wish seeing all of the Equifax c-suite execs strung by their balls in a public square?

    1. Playa Manhattan

      The execs probably didn’t do anything.

      But it certainly looks bad.

      1. Michael

        Top level execs in a lot of organizations tend to view IT as a liability instead of an asset. From what I’ve read so far, this very well may prove to have been the case here as well.

      2. The execs waited till after they sold $1.7 million in stock before announcing the issue (and then watching the stock tank) 2 months after it took place.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          The 3 execs all have net worths somewhere in the high 7 or low 8 figures.

          The trades totaled $1.7 million in proceeds. The stock price is down about 12% as of close today. That means that the alleged “insider trading” netted the 3 executives a tad over $200,000 combined.

          Could I see somebody who’s broke taking a risk like that? Yeah.
          Someone who’s worth over 5 mil? No way.

          1. thepasswordispassword

            That’s a pretty convincing point. That will probably never ever show up in the articles to be written.

          2. R C Dean

            Someone who’s worth over 5 mil? No way.

            Actually, that doesn’t give me any pause at all. I completely believe that someone with lots of money will try to cheat to get a little more.

          3. Playa Manhattan

            If you decided to risk insider trading charges, wouldn’t you sell ALL of the stock? The penalty is the same.

            The CFO still owns several million dollars worth of EFX stock.

          4. trshmnstr

            I’m very skeptical of whether this was intentional. The process is arduous, and their window of opportunity is very small. Corporate execs can only sell for a few days a quarter. The idea that they were able to sync up the disclosure of this hack with their pending share sale stretches believability.

          5. Michael

            I totally agree. The media is going to spin the fuck out of a criminal intent angle, but the whole thing just smacks of garden variety incompetence. The timing of the sale just makes them look doubly stupid. One of the execs that sold stock is “president of U.S. information solutions” according to Bloomberg. I can’t wait to see the statement they’ll release to try to explain this.

          6. How small was their window? It happened between May and July – they sold in Sep – and then the announcement came out.

          7. They sold the stock before it tanked.

          8. BTW – via Metokur and others on twitter – the “check” your status and sign up page on Equifax is apparently unsecure and blocked by some service providers – also you waive your right to pursue in a class action suit if you sign up. That last part will probably be thrown out in court though.

    2. Q Continuum

      We’ve gotta finish with the OPM people first.

    3. Roger Wilco

      Is there Data Breach insurance? Seems companies who are dumping money into things trying to prevent breaches (and failing) could just as easily pay for a policy that covers damages from breaches.

      1. Yes, but it is expensive (the excess layers will cost damn near the same as your primary, too) and has lots of conditions – you cannot just buy a policy and do nothing, security wise…

  12. invisible finger

    Nothing with Christian Slater is good. True Romance was merely acceptable, mostly for the scene with Hopper, Walker, and Gandolfini.

    1. PBRstreetgang

      Mr. Robot is solid, at least Season 1 was.

    2. Florida Man

      Uh, Cuffs…

    3. Playa Manhattan

      Pump Up the Volume?

      1. kinnath

        yes

      2. Tundra

        Si.

    4. Not Adahn

      Infidel! Pump Up the Volume was a masterpiece!

      1. Not Adahn

        It was the extra exclamation points that slowed me down.

    5. egould310

      Gleaming the Cube?

      Pump Up the Volume?

      Broken Arrow?

      Christian Slater is my generation’s Brando.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I’m the proud owner of a copy of Gleaming the Cube, but I don’t have a VCR anymore.

        1. egould310

          I’m sure you can snag a vcr at Sal Army. Film festival at Playas this weekend!!

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Dude. DUDE. I just found it in Hi Def!!!!

      2. Florida Man

        Oh, Mind Hunters.

    6. Brett L

      Archer! Although he did bring down the quality of his episodes.

    7. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Screw Slater, you cannot replace I Wanna Ryder.

    8. The Last American Hero

      No love for Flatliners?

      I did like the final? episode of Breaking In, with the Breakfast Club ending.

      1. Not Adahn

        Do not tell me you just confused Christian Slater for Kevin Bacon.

  13. Gripe #2 – Work calls on my day off because some shit is broke and no one else knows what to do.

    1. invisible finger

      Unless you signed a bondage agreement, quote them a price and demand 50% payment upfront. Otherwise, see you Monday.

      1. Salaried employee…

        1. invisible finger

          Still not a bondage agreement. Negotiate. Should be able to get 1.5x commensurate off time at minimum.

          1. Then the Union would break my knees.

          2. invisible finger

            Union? Then it IS a bondage agreement.

          3. trshmnstr

            Eh, I usually settle for not reporting my work time as PTO. However, you have shit tons of leverage to get a raise.

          4. You forget – I’m not allowed to negotiate on my own behalf, that would obviate the need for the union, they wouldn’t be happy about that.

          5. trshmnstr

            Well, in that case, crack open a beer and enjoy your day off.

          6. Badolph Hilter

            Ick, a unionized, salaried employee. Sounds like the worst of both worlds. Sorry brah.

            I don’t get through more than 48 hours of PTO max without having to deal with some fuckery at the office, but at least I take it back out of them in additional time off.

          7. robc

            Have you considered being a scab?

          8. The Last American Hero

            Making it illegal never stopped school teachers from striking.

          9. R C Dean

            Eh, I usually settle for not reporting my work time as PTO.

            When you are salaried, there is no such thing as comp time or PTO in chunks of less than a day.

            If they call you on your day off, then its not a vacation day anymore, and they shouldn’t ding your PTO account for it.

            If they give you any shit, tell them if they want to treat you like an hourly employee, they need to pay you like an hourly employee – overtime and all.

          10. Q Continuum

            “Bondage agreement”

            *lights Jesse lamp*

          11. trshmnstr

            He’s a little tied up right now.

    2. Playa Manhattan

      “Fine. This doesn’t count as my day off.”

    3. Diane Reynolds

      I see you’re in IT too.

      1. Yep.

        I think I might have mentioned it before.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          No, the people skills gave it away.

        2. Diane Reynolds

          I sometimes forget, but little clues like, “I had to come in on my day off because no one knows what the fuck is going on” is a helpful reminder.

  14. Q Continuum

    “Political prostitute”

    They’re gonna have to be a LOT more specific.

    1. DOOMco

      What is Cenk Uygur?

  15. How about this for the hurricane?

  16. Rufus the Monocled

    DO ANY OF YOU WORK?!

    1. Florida Man

      I got canceled Monday.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Any chance you might have to go in for emergencies?

        If a hurricane blew a 2×4 through my torso, I’d probably want to be anesthetized.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Oh man, I saw that episode of Grey’s Anatomy. Spoiler: the black guy dies so the white woman can live, but she’s heartbroken because they became friends during their ordeal.

          1. trshmnstr

            That describes about 15 episodes.

          2. jesse.in.mb

            I’m thinking specifically of this one. I like that google’s autocomplete got impaled right away when I typed “grey’s anatomy two patients”

          3. Playa Manhattan

            Such a deep metaphor.

            When’s our next Grey’s viewing party? I’ll bring the Midori sours.

          4. trshmnstr

            Something something jumped the shark after the plane crashed.

          5. jesse.in.mb

            I think you’re giving it a longer lifespan than it deserves. I checked out waaaaay before that.

          6. trshmnstr

            Something something jumped the shark when George died?

          7. You’re talking about Lost, right?

          8. jesse.in.mb

            When’s our next Grey’s viewing party? I’ll bring the Midori sours.

            Bright green cocktails are out, polishing off a bottle of wine is in. You’re showing your age, Playa.

        2. Florida Man

          They are running an emergency only crew Saturday through Monday. I could volunteer to go in and relieve if travel is allowed on Monday. I might depending on how things shake out.

    2. Q Continuum

      Define “work”.

    3. I am on a webex teleconference with 4 other groups. We’re waiting for the 5th because they’re the ones who have to actually make a change to fix the problem.

      1. Q Continuum

        Tax money at work!

        1. 5th group showed up – did what I said needed to be done – problem is gone.

          Once upon a time, I was allowed to fix these things myself.

    4. invisible finger

      The great thing about object-oriented programming is that when someone else’s objects fail you can’t proceed until they fix their shit.

      1. Homple

        “Object-oriented programming is an exceptionally bad idea which could only have originated in California.”
        ~Edsger Dijkstra

        Opinions, one way or tbe other?

        1. Caput Lupinum

          Eh, the original idea of object oriented programming was good, at least for a subset of problems. What it turned into, especially with the advent of Java, is a different story. I’m assuming that Dijkstra is referring to the latter, as that was developed in California, while the original concept as proposed by Alan Kay was developed in Massachusetts.

          Either way, the predominant model that Java put forward has at least proceed itself serviceable, though it has shown its weaknesses. It isn’t the worst idea in programming.

        2. kbolino

          I think OOP means different things to different people. I see the major developments that accompanied OOP as:

          1. Encapsulation (keep the data and the code that manipulates it together, only show the properties/operations that a client cares about)
          2. Polymorphism (you can substitute one implementation of an abstract concept for another without changing the client code)
          3. Inheritance (a cat IS-AN animal IS-A living thing, yadda yadda)

          In my opinion, 1 and 2 are good things, but 3 is a clusterfuck. Fortunately, you can almost always use composition instead of inheritance. Unfortunately, not everybody got the memo. A number of newer languages (Go, Rust, …) have done away with inheritance entirely* and I’ve never felt like anything of value was lost when using them.

          * = You can “extend” interfaces in Go and traits in Rust but that just adds to the method set, it doesn’t carry any shared data or behavior like a subclass does

          1. Caput Lupinum

            +infinity for Rust. Polymorphism is complicated, though, since OOP only brings subtype polymorphism.

          2. Homple

            Thanks to everyone for your thoughts.

    5. Not Adahn

      Only for another half an hour. Then, carnitas!

      1. egould310

        Im doing carnitas tomorrow. I was about to head to the store to get all the fixins.

        1. Tundra

          I’m thinking tacos al pastor.

          And beer.

        2. Playa Manhattan

          Kettle fried?

          1. egould310

            Pork butt, browned in a dutch oven, then braised in lard, bacon fat, and whatever citrus I can forage here in the neighborhood. Maybe finish it under the broiler just to get some crispy “burnt ends”.

            Corn tortilla tacos, garnished with a pickled relish of jalapeño and red onion. Topped with crumbled quesa and chopped cilantro. Squeeze of lime juice.

            Beers, left over tequila, and bourbon. And 12 hours of college football Saturday.

          2. thepasswordispassword

            Pork butt, browned in a dutch oven, then braised in lard, bacon fat, and whatever citrus I can forage here in the neighborhood. Maybe finish it under the broiler just to get some crispy “burnt ends”.
            These euphemisms

  17. Q Continuum

    “Citizen”; I do not think it means what you think it means.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/371463.php

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      couple more months we’ll just drop the “undocumented” part and there we go.

    2. thepasswordispassword

      Are they really “undocumented” any more either? Don’t most of them have some amount of government paper work for various programs they have access to?

    3. Q Continuum

      If by some accident of fate we found out that these individuals were, as a group, likely to overwhelmingly vote Republican, every alphabet soup network, the NYT, WaPo, and the online leftosphere would be a howling mass of shrieking harridans demanding that these filthy brown people be launched back to their origin countries by cannon.

      1. Suthenboy

        Yep.

      2. thepasswordispassword

        ‘member wet foot-dry foot?

      3. antisthenes

        So, anti-immigration people should really be working to produce misleading studies that prove that immigrants in the long run lean Republican and favor conservative values?

  18. jesse.in.mb

    Florida avocados had the good sense to get out of FL in a timely fashion and are currently making local produce aisles worse. “Slimcado” completely defeats the purpose of and avocado.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      I can’t take a shit in a paper bag and sell it as a Fuji Apple, so why in the fuck are they allowed to call those things avocados???

      1. jesse.in.mb

        I’d be fine if they drew little goatees on each one so people knew they were the evil universe version.

      2. PBRstreetgang

        “I can’t take a shit in a paper bag and sell it as a Fuji Apple,”…. have you tried?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I run everything by my lawyer first.

          Sometimes I listen, sometimes I don’t.

        2. Bobarian LMD

          Not much of a salesman.

          “Fuck you, Fuji apples are for closers!”

    2. Nobody’s forcing you to eat them.

      1. Florida Man

        *puts away bondage accoutrements and FL avocados*

        Next time, Jesse!

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Huh, you’ve successfully piqued my interest in slimcados. I hope you’re getting a cut of the advertising money.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            “Click to see more ads like this one”

          2. I figured you’d be into bear avocados, not twink avocados.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        Yes, they are, Ted. Yes. They. Are.

    3. Brett L

      They are terrible.

      1. Florida Man

        Who says “you know what crop I’m going to grow? Florida avocados.”?

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Sadists?

    4. Suthenboy

      What is wrong with you people and your avocado fetish? That is not food for humans.

      1. That is not food for humans.

        FIFY

    1. This is my shocked face:

      (._.)

    2. Playa Manhattan

      “During years of yawning budget deficits, the U.S. protectorate tapped the V.I. Insurance Guaranty Fund to pay for other public services, according to government financial records reviewed by Reuters.”

      Yet another thing that would result in significant jail time if done in the private sector.

    3. Negroni Please

      I mean why not? If I was a government parasite that’s the first fund I would steal from. It’s not like we won’t give them more money to help hurricane victims.

    4. invisible finger

      We’re all Illinois now.

    5. mindyourbusiness

      Were I a resident of the VI, I’d start thinking seriously about encouraging a torches-and-pitchforks movement.

  19. Q Continuum

    I’m holding the resident Minnesodans personally responsible for this guy.

    https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/09/07/citing-the-splc-sen-al-franken-compares-alliance-defending-freedom-to-pol-pot/

    1. Tundra

      *skates to box – feels shame*

      1. Q Continuum

        5 minute major at least.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      “Is it your habit of accepting money from organizations without first learning what they do?” Franken pressed.

      That sounds like an open invitation to pore over Franken’s campaign finances if I’ve ever heard one.

    3. Grumbletarian

      Barrett explained that she was “generally aware that the Southern Poverty Law Center fights discrimination and that they do classify some groups as hate groups.”

      Franken shot back, “Yeah, they track hate groups, and you spoke at an event sponsored by one of those hate groups. Now, I question your judgment.”

      No, Senator, they don’t ‘track hate groups’, they call anyone they don’t like a hate group and then depend on hectoring idiots like you to denounce them. And now, I question your honesty.

      1. Badolph Hilter

        It’s as if he accepted information from an organization without first learning what they do.

  20. thepasswordispassword

    Ran across this during lunch.
    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/I-downloaded-an-app-And-suddenly-I-was-talking-12172506.php

    While a great tale about the power of volunteerism, I want to highlight how deeply the thread of credentialism and permission runs with people these days.

    As I was listening, I quickly figured out that there were a few moderators on the app that were in charge and very experienced in using this method of communication during emergencies. One in particular, Brittney, was giving directions, taking rescue requests, and prioritizing calls and rescues. At one point, she said something that made me realize she’s a nurse, so I immediately understood why she was so effective in this situation.

    By this time, Cajun Navy rescuers had begun arriving in Port Arthur. They were begging to be let in the water, but the Coast Guard understandably wouldn’t grant them permission because the storm was just too strong.

    I went to the bathroom, refilled my tea, walked around a bit, thinking to myself, “What are you doing?? You’re not qualified to do this!”

    Now this last one is understandable, people doubt themselves when emotional fatigue sets in, but considering they were essentially following a script and had been doing that correctly for hours, falling back on the fact they don’t have an official badge shows something about how they see the world.

    It’s still amazing that an ordinary highschool teacher went from dread fascination to lending a helping hand and she deserves praise, but it’s still disquieting how uncomfortable she is with informality.

    1. I posted this at the beginning of the summer. It’s a local news story about a woman who lives on a stretch of dangerous road, and how she and her neighbors dealt with a car crash that happened there. And then there was a bit that absolutely enraged me:

      A woman who provided comfort to the fatally injured driver says she was already bracing herself for another crash and then it happened.

      Teri Conroy was wrapping up her day on her llama farm Sunday night when she heard that all too familiar sound.

      “We heard the crash and my daughter yelled. You are always waiting to hear a crash here. I felt it was bad.”

      While waiting for first responders,

      No, you ignorant state-fellating reporter, Teri and her neighbors were the first responders, not the people with credentials.

      1. invisible finger

        I always call my cop buddy a “second-responder”.

        When seconds count, police and paramedics are there in minutes.

  21. Drake

    Speaking of bad remakes, holy shit is the new Star Trek going to suck. They are making the Klingons deplorables.

    1. We knew that when the fan works looked better than their official output…

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      “new Star Trek is going to suck.”

      So, just like the old Star Trek then.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        You take that back or I’ll… I’ll… send this red shirt to throw you in the brig.

        1. bacon-magic

          Dead man walking.

      2. Drake

        I going to give the Seth MacFarlane spoof a try. Would love it if they mock the new show brutally.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m so surprised…..

    4. Badolph Hilter

      TOS or GTFO

      1. The Last American Hero

        I’ve seen most of TOS, TNG, and half of DS-9. Is GTFO any good or is it like Voyager?

        1. *gives Vulcan salute*

  22. Gilmore

    Please, anything but Jimmy Buffett.

    1. Tundra

      Nope. You’re safe.

    2. Gustave Lytton
        1. Gustave Lytton

          WTF did I just watch?

          1. Gilmore

            The glorious show, Yacht Rock

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacht_Rock

          2. F. Stupidity Jr.

            I seriously had an idea similar to this a few years back. My story was going to be built around Bertie Higgins’ “Key Largo”.

    1. Badolph Hilter

      Q C, whyfor you try enraging me on a gorgeous Friday afternoon?

      1. Q Continuum

        Drinking motivation?

    2. Suthenboy

      Now that pisses me off. That arrogant bitch all but gave the finger to everyone confident that chocolate jesus would shield her.

      The reason these pieces of shit keep doing things like this is because they are never punished.

      1. Badolph Hilter

        All of the above PLUS holding these fuckers accountable was one of the things Trump campaigned on. Not that I expect politicians to actually keep any of their campaign promises, but god damn.

  23. Lee Hardcastle is a master…That is all.

    Claycat series is the best though – esp. “The Raid”, “Doom”, etc.

    1. Chipwooder

      Just not the same without McCormick, though

  24. Rufus the Monocled

    The question on the news today:

    Some places face earthquakes and hurricanes whereas we face harsh snowstorms and the odd ice storm but it’s generally not as destructive: Are you happy you live in a northern climate?

    1. invisible finger

      My answer is “yes” but I encourage people to leave, especially the poor.

    2. Yes.

      I also like having more daylight in the summer. (And don’t mind less in the winter. I enjoy having four seasons.)

      1. Playa Manhattan

        There’s a Four Seasons in Hawaii that’s quite nice.

        1. Q Continuum

          Walk like a man?

    3. Playa Manhattan

      I’m happy that I don’t.

    4. jesse.in.mb

      What’s wrong with earthquakes?

      1. Everything.

        There’s no warning, they shake the whole place, so your shit all falls down, and then they rumble along.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Yeah, that’s all that’s great about them. You can’t spend excessive time fretting about when the next one will come or preparing for earthquake season or whatever. We build specifically to avoid shit falling down, but some broken glassware is still cheaper than flood damage or having your house leveled by tornadoes or whatever. They’re rare, finish quickly, and you can move on.

          1. I don’t like unpredictable events.

            My snowy weather is easy to see coming, we know when it will be an issue, and it’s cheaper to clear the walk than replace all my stuff.

          2. jesse.in.mb

            replace all my stuff

            We literally had one item in our house break for Northridge, and in the Loma Prieta quake my mom lost about 5 inexpensive glass vases. Admittedly we were lucky not to have a brick chimney like the neighbors did in ’89, and we weren’t living downtown that had been built on leveled riverbed and immediately liquefied during the quake, but still, they aren’t that bad.

          3. JaimeRoberto

            I was about 25 miles from the epicenter of Loma Prieta. A bottle of gin fell of the top of my refrigerator. It was terrible.

          4. Chipwooder

            On the other hand, my uncle’s house in Reseda was condemned after the Northridge quake. Now, there’s probably a very good chance that it would have been condemned with no earthquake, but still…..

          5. egould310

            “They’re rare, finish quickly, and you can move on.”

            Earthquakes are the sashimi of natural disasters.

          6. trshmnstr

            When I was living in one certain apartment at Purdue, we had an earthquake, a blizzard, a tornado within close proximity, and a flood all in the span of 24 months.

          7. Playa Manhattan

            LA had fires, floods, an earthquake, and a riot when I was in middle school.

            Good times

          8. Thankfully, I was studying in Russia when the Rodney King riots happened.

          9. I was in a 6.3 earthquake….in Afghanistan. Talk about piling on.

      2. bacon-magic

        You are on shaky ground there.

        1. Q Continuum

          I see some cracks in his façade.

        2. Gustave Lytton

          I can’t fault him for that.

      3. Rufus the Monocled

        The part where we fall into middle earth and get raped by gnomes that all look like John Malkovich?

        1. I…I wish to avoid that, plz.

    5. Florida Man

      I’ll take the once a decade storm you get a week to prepare for over freezing to death every winter.

    6. kinnath

      My wife’s aunt lost her house to a rare F5 tornado that pretty much made a small Iowa town disappear in a few minutes. This is still chicken shit compared to what Irma is going to do this weekend.

    7. Scruffy Nerfherder

      My skin dries out in the winter really badly to the point it bleeds. So no.

      1. Badolph Hilter

        Jergens isn’t just for keeping by the computer, yo.

        1. Q Continuum

          Barbarian! I only use Curel!

          1. DOOMco

            ^^^^^^

          2. Spartan Dad

            I guess I’m probably the only one here who actually uses this as it was intended on cow udders?

            I have the same problem in winter with bleeding skin and bag balm is the only thing I’ve found to help.

          3. DOOMco

            I use it to keep my lips from bleeding while skiing. that cold air cracks them every winter.

          4. Q Continuum

            Oh I’ll milk something with it…

          5. jesse.in.mb

            I guess I’m probably the only one here who actually uses this as it was intended on cow udders?

            Probably. I was entertained by the “please don’t use this on humans” warning on the old containers of it while it was being sold in the skin care aisle.

          6. Tundra

            Aquaphor is also an excellent product.

          7. DOOMco

            It used to have mercury, I think.

          8. Homple

            We used it on the dairy cows when I was a farm kid. Long ago.

          9. Tundra

            4-0? Pretty smooth, Playa.

            A real man would grab the 60-grit and get to it.

          10. Playa Manhattan

            Don’t you want a finish?

      2. Akira

        Mine too, especially after I go jogging in -9 degrees.

        Protip: Dump some olive oil, coconut oil, and beeswax pellets in a pot and gently heat them just until everything is melted and mixed together. Pour it in a tupperware dish and let it cool (if it’s still liquidy, melt it again and add more beeswax; if it’s too hard, add more olive oil). Rub it on your whole body after every shower, and rub it on your hands throughout the day if they get dry.

    8. Q Continuum

      I don’t really live in a northern or southern climate per se… but we don’t have earthquakes or hurricanes or ice storms or tornadoes. We do get a lot of snow, but it doesn’t really seem to affect things much… what did you ask again?

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Where the fuck do you live? Hell?

        1. Q Continuum

          Colorado Springs? Right, yes. Colorado Springs.

          1. DOOMco

            Boulder winters are nice apart from the snowflakes. *looks at camera*

            having winter a half hour away is great.

          2. thepasswordispassword

            Didn’t you almost burn down a few years ago?

          3. Q Continuum

            Yeah, there have been a couple of bad ones. Hayward in ’02 I think (that was before I was here) but I think you’re referring to the Black Forest fire two (maybe three?) years ago. That was a bad one.

          4. thepasswordispassword

            That and Waldo Canyon the year before. Up north was Four Mile Canyon in ’10 and High Park in ’12. Seems like only one metro area in the state was smart enough to build a respectable distance away from forests in drought country but close enough to the front range to mostly avoid tornadoes.

      2. Hyperion

        So, you don’t live in the USA?

    9. The Other Kevin

      As I get older, I hate winter more and more. The cold, snow, and short days bother me more each year. Maybe that’s why old people move to Florida and Arizona.

    10. Badolph Hilter

      Meh, “happy enough”.

      I do like having 4 seasons, and you’re not a real man if you don’t know how to drive in snow and ice. But if it weren’t for having a lot of family in the area, I’d move to somewhere with mountains, probably CO or NC.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Fucken right. We used to attack our skis to a car and go through the streets after a storm.

        Plus if you don’t know how to strike a puck properly (and I’m average at it) you’re not a man either.

        1. Badolph Hilter

          We used to drive around in my dad’s Chevy Suburban and find cars in ditches to pull out. Lady drivers obviously.

        2. Tundra

          Plus if you don’t know how to strike a puck properly (and I’m average at it) you’re not a man either.

          Amen.

          1. The Last American Hero

            Are you guys calling out half the bruisers in the NHL?

          2. Suthenboy

            A what?

    11. Tundra

      Are you happy you live in a northern climate?

      Yep. I love winter.

      Although I do like to escape to a beach once winter.

    12. trshmnstr

      I like having seasons and rain here in DC. If I could replace the DC culture with the Dallas culture, it would be perfect.

      The only thing I have to worry about, besides the odd blizzard, is Kim Jong Un getting an itchy trigger finger.

      1. Gilmore

        unless you have a vacation home in Guam, i think you’re safe

        1. I think Guam is going to tip over first.

    13. Diane Reynolds

      but it’s generally not as destructive:

      As an earthquake?

      And what does the north have to do with earthquakes? Ok, what am I missing here?

    14. Grumbletarian

      Shit yes. When my father was stationed at Langley I’d spend March through November pretty much curled up around the air conditioner. Thank god he retired back to NH in the mid 90s. If this climate change thing is real, I may have to move further north.

  25. Q Continuum

    WHAT. THE. FUCK.

    Heard about this from S-town (podcast).

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/10/16/Son-of-Sen-Jeff-Flake-charged-with-dogs-deaths/3261413471418/

    I have no words.

    1. Tundra

      The douche doesn’t fall far from the cunt.

    2. RAHeinlein

      So, the lazy a-holes put all the dogs in a small room. Just nail the plates to the table, and throw a bucket of water on ’em – easier to clean that way.

      1. Tundra

        I pay a lot of money to board my dog at a really nice place run by really cool people.

        Worth every dime

        1. Spartan Dad

          That’s the way to do it if you can. When we just had a couple dogs, we took them to one place that let all the dogs play all day in a huge backyard with a 8 foot fence. It even had things like a tire swing and sprinklers running all day in summer.

          Now with 3 GSDs and a retarded hound rescue, it’s just easier and cheaper to hire a house sitter. Plus, my male is not neutered and doesn’t take kindly to other dogs sniffing around his bitches.

        2. Chipwooder

          We have awesome retired neighbors who come over to our house 4 or 5 times a day to feed and let our dogs out when we’re away. Our dogs are old and completely sedentary anyway.

  26. Suthenboy

    Goddammit. I cant believe what I just saw on the TV. Some show wife is watching called Salvation. An asteroid is bearing down on earth and instead of trying to solve the problem in earnest everyone in the government is running around stabbing each other in the back. In one scene the president is firing the secretary of defense and replacing him with some other dude. The conversation between the president and the new secretary is LINE FOR LINE, WORD FOR WORD identical to the purported conversation between Trump and Comey where Comey claims Trump asks for loyalty.

    Comey didn’t even bother to make that shit up. He stole it from a cheesy TV show.

    1. Gilmore

      hey suthen

      tried asking you like twice elsewhere;… i’m off to NoLa later this evening for a weekend of drinking, eating, whoring, and avoiding arrest etc. any suggestion on fave places/things i should try and catch while there? others have provided some helpful suggestions… but wanted to check in w/ you.

      i used to visit the city often in my 20s and early 30s. its been about 10 years, and my last visit (for jazzfest) didn’t even have me around the city very much.

      1. Suthenboy

        I am sorry Gilmore, I didn’t see you. I haven’t been back to New Orleans since Katrina. I cant really recommend anything because everything I knew is long gone.

        1. Gilmore

          thanks anyway

      2. jesse.in.mb

        Go to Lafitte in Exile, get blindingly drunk and wake up in a student housing next to a very handsome Brazilian medical student named Diego.

        1. Gilmore

          (eyes suspiciously)

          i never told anyone about that. how did….

        2. Badolph Hilter

          in a bathtub full of ice…. with a note taped to the mirror….

          1. “We regret to inform you that your warranty has expired. This liver service will cost you…”

          2. Badolph Hilter

            “You are now automatically eligible for our LiverLock protection service for the next 12 months at no cost to you.”

          3. Chipwooder

            *applause*

      3. blighted_non_millenial

        Go to Drago’s for chargrilled oysters, go see Kitty at the Hustler Club, get a hand grenade, get a hurricane, go hang out on Frenchman. Don’t let some shit puke on you on the way. The End.

    2. R C Dean

      An asteroid is bearing down on earth and instead of trying to solve the problem in earnest everyone in the government is running around stabbing each other in the back.

      So they went for realism, did they?

      1. Suthenboy

        I got it backwards. Apparently the writers for the show stole the Comey skit and inserted it in their plot. Comey cooked his story up first.

  27. Rufus the Monocled

    So. Is Bennett full of shit?

    1. Q Continuum

      Yes. Who?

    2. Tundra

      Bill?

    3. Badolph Hilter

      Dr. ?

    4. Pan Zagloba

      Mr Bennet? Probably.
      Mrs Bennet? Yes.

      3/5 daughters yes, say bad things about Lizzie and I’ll cut you!

    5. Gustave Lytton

      Haley?

  28. Gilmore

    ♪, ♩Come, Mister tally-man, tally-me-some-hate-crimes♪, ♩

    Guy who supported Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Chavez, and even Stalin, to help explain to New Yorkers about the hateful, racist legacy of people like Christopher Columbus, Cornelius Vanderbilt, and Andrew Carnegie

    1. Gilmore

      fuck. the link

      1. Q Continuum

        I mean, it’s a very attractive link, but it’s just not my type.

    2. Gilmore

      small-irony alert=

      @BelafonteNYPL
      The Harry Belafonte-115th Street Library of The New York Public Library (@nypl), built with funds given to the city by Andrew Carnegie, opened in 1908.

    1. Gilmore

      President Trump’s bizarre Hurricane Harvey response—wherein the commander in chief hawked a new line of USA hats, marveled at the size of the crowd he received, and failed to meet with a single victim of the devastating natural disaster during his first go-around

      i’d take this sort of thing more seriously if they weren’t so desperate to contrive hate-crimes out of literally nothing.

      its sort of like Obama’s “failed coffee-cup salute” being used against, which was a dumb exaggeration of a small thing (if emblematic of Obama’s limp presidency), … but every single day, on every single thing, all the time.

      1. Badolph Hilter

        No one is actually trying to meaningfully engage anyone about anything at this point are they? It’s playing to the base 24/7/365 on “all” sides innit?

        1. Suthenboy

          It is worse than that. Most of what is being said has no connection whatsoever to reality. It is almost like they are all trying to one-up each other with the biggest lie.

      2. Suthenboy

        As opposed to Obama and Hillary who completely ignored disaster victims. I think the chocolate jesus was seeing a play while a whole town in Alabama disappeared in a tornado then jetted off to Europe and never said a word. Hillary was fundraising in San Francisco hob-nobbing with elites while Trump was passing out blankets to Louisiana flood victims.

        1. Badolph Hilter

          A fine point. I assume Chels is already on the ground in FL dishing out water and gasoline paid for by Clinton Foundation cash.

          1. She sent a tweet, what more do you expect from her?

          2. Badolph Hilter

            A tweet criticizing Trump I assume.

        2. Suthenboy

          I distinctly remember seeing a woman tearfully complain about Obama’s ignoring the tornado disaster and she (black) just couldn’t understand why he would desert ‘his people’. The town was almost entirely black and apparently voted for him 100%.

          I cant believe how many people deluded themselves about that guy. He told everyone up front that he hated America, Americans and intended to fuck every one of us to death. He might be a liar’s liar but he never lied about that.

      3. Gustave Lytton

        The whole saluting thing by civilian presidents is bullshit. But if one stopped doing it, it would be disrespecting the troops now.

        1. Suthenboy

          Technically the President is the Commander-in-Chief of all of the military.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            He is and he’s still a civilian. He’s not a member of the armed forces, he’s not a member of the uniformed services and he shouldn’t be rendering hand salutes.

      4. Pan Zagloba

        I dunno, I thought they’d lose interest or momentum, but if it keeps up for two more years, I’d be tempted to get rid of Trump just to shut them up. And I don’t live in US.

        1. american socialist

          Please no this will just enable them

          If you reward bad behavior you get more of it

          1. Pan Zagloba

            I’m not a parent so I’ve not developed immunity to “scream until you get your way” approach beyond “wait them out” and that ain’t working…

          2. american socialist

            If you get rid of trump. They will do it to pence. It won’t stop

            Look at college campuses and how they are going after liberal professors

        2. Hyperion

          They’re not getting rid of Trump and it wouldn’t shut them up if they could. It would make them worse.

      5. american socialist

        The progs like usual just ignored his comments and what actually happened to make up their own movie

    2. Hyperion

      It’s ok when they do it, trust me on this one.

  29. Gilmore

    <emOf the 10 cities with the highest rates of teen shootings, most had populations of less than 250,000 people. Among them were Savannah, Georgia; Trenton, New Jersey; Syracuse, New York; Fort Myers, Florida; and Richmond, Virginia …

    clearly, the message here is that being *small* is what makes cities dangerous. there are no other relevant demographic details which they might have in common.

    1. Badolph Hilter

      You may be on to something here. Did anyone check to see how many of these shootings happened within 10 years of a Republican administration?

    2. Having grown up in Syracuse, that does not surprise me.

      1. Gilmore

        Apparently poughkeepsie caught the magical violence-bug as well

    3. AlmightyJB

      It’s like when they compare Canada and US infant mortality rates and say Canadas is lower due to national health care. There may be another more obvious reason.

      1. thepasswordispassword

        Is this before or after subtracting “nonviable birth” from one countries statistic?

        1. AlmightyJB

          Well that’s without consideration of demographics.

      2. Hyperion

        You can’t believe anything the media say about national healthcare. They use all sorts of trickery to get the right results. It’s like when they make claims about the ‘happiest’ countries. Those countries always have national healthcare as one reason why they are so happy. Doesn’t matter if they are dying waiting on a life saving surgery because of rationed care, they’re happy, because we say so!

    4. Chipwooder

      In any case, Richmond is much larger than most of those cities – pop is about 230K, metro area is 1.3 million, twice or more the size of the others listed

  30. Gilmore

    Headline and photo have strangely incongruent messages

    Deal with Trump, GOP retirements have Dems riding higher

    They honestly think “agreeing w/ republicans that spending more of other people’s money is a great idea” is a sign of their political success.

    1. Suthenboy

      I had to go to town wednesday. I was riding around in the car when I heard on the radio about Trump’s deal and how giddy Pelosi and Shumer were.
      I am surprised the cops didn’t stop me I was yelling and screaming and waiving my fists around so much.

      We are cattle Gilmore. Nothing more to them.

      1. american socialist

        Trump only did that to put GOP on notice who don’t want to do anything conservative

        1. Hyperion

          I think he did it for 2 reasons. He wants to spend a bunch of money on hurricane relief to make himself look good. 2nd he wants to spend a bunch of money on other stuff, not the same things that dems want to spend money on, like a big wall.

          1. american socialist

            The GOP wanted an 18 month extension. It would have taken away any leverage for him to get things like tax reform. They want to campaign and not do anything

            The relief money was going thru anyway anyhow and is one of the few things I approve of fed gov doing which are

          2. Hyperion

            Trump wants to do massive spending on infrastructure as well. I think that several Republicans who are playing the never Trump game are going to get primaried.

          3. american socialist

            True. But what have they been the past 10 months since trump won on tax cuts and reform?

            Defunding planned parenthood?

            Trump said he would be cool with clean repeal of ACA? And replace later. Where are they?

            Trump proposed 30 billion in cuts to agency in budget. The GOP said they weren’t doing them

          4. Hyperion

            The never Trumpers are the problem. McCain is solely responsible for the ACA not being repealed right now. He should probably die from cancer or something. Wouldn’t that be some karma.

          5. Stinky Wizzleteats

            I think he only pulled this to not look like he and the Reps were pinching pennies while Houston is wrecked and another hurricane is bearing down on Florida. Fiscally it’s not such a good move but politically it makes sense.

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Goddamit Gilmore, how did you manage this?! It looks like URL, mouse behaves like it’s a URL but it isn’t! It looks fine in Firefox dev tools too…

      1. If the mouse behaved like a URL a right click would have “open in new tab”

      2. Gilmore

        It’s also scary to know, that climate change is due to human activity, and we continue to ignore it, and the only voice that we really have is through voting,

        yeah, you can’t actually do anything else except vote for overlords to force people to do shit.

        Nope. no other form of human activity. No cooperative, voluntary behavior; indeed – she herself can’t even change her spending habits or her electricty consumption unless some bureaucrat forces her to. The fact is that mankind has no free will except voting.

        (i think i understand other people a lot better now)

        1. Gilmore

          (oopsie)

        2. Gilmore

          ^(technically a reply to the ‘trump is force of nature’ thing below)

          1. egould310

            Gilmore, you don’t have to explain Gilmoring a post anymore. We all understand. It’s ok buddy.

  31. Hyperion

    So, my SIL managed to get himself stuck in Orlando. Not sure how bad it’s going to get, but it doesn’t look too good.

    1. egould310

      Stuck in Orlando? I’d rather be stuck in Dawn ifyouknowwhatimeanandithinkyoudo. https://youtu.be/qsZTiD4VQ30

      1. Suthenboy

        Now see, only an old codger like you would use that example. And only an old codger like me would get the reference instantly without clicking the link.

        1. egould310

          You’re alright Suthen.

        2. AlmightyJB

          You can add me to the old codger list as well:) lol

      2. [Dawn knocks on pipes twice]

  32. Hyperion

    Not sure if this has been discussed here, but I keep reading articles about how Branson’s compound on his private island was completely destroyed. Has anyone even seen a single picture of this ‘destruction’?

    Not saying it didn’t happen, but I’ve read several articles about this now and have not seen one picture. The guy is an attention ho. He survived the storm in something like a fallout shelter that would survive a nuclear hit. Meh.

    1. Hyperion

      Dude, he caused like 2 earthquakes just today. One of them was an 8.1! I mean Bush would have only been able to cause a 6.3 in comparison!

    2. Suthenboy

      Aren’t these the same crowd that made fun of Pat Robertson for saying that the San Francisco earthquake was god’s vengeance against the gays? Oh, and 9/11 too.

      People keep assuring me that TDS is not a real thing.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Religiosity is only stupid and ignorant when mouthed with a southern accent, otherwise it’s soulful and deep.

  33. The UPS guy just now arrived with my table saw.

    I could have saved my time off and gone to work. (especially since they called me anyway, and then you get into the weeds of the messy rules on that for our contract).

    I was hoping to have it all set up earlier in the day. You know when places were still open.

    1. Suthenboy

      Yeah? Which saw did you get?

      I used to have a Shop-Smith but it disappeared in a divorce. God, I miss that thing. Just have a regular ol’ saw now.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Better than you disappearing in it in a divorce.

      2. DeWalt DW745

        And I know some things:

        1: The instruction manual was written by someone who knew the system inside and out. I can tell, because it assumes the reader knows the system inside and out and leaves off important information.

        2: The saw works

        3: Hearing protection is a must

        4: The 60-tooth sawblade cuts a fairly smooth split down a pine 2×4 (the same 2×4 I tested the drill press on yesterday)

        1. It came with a 24-tooth sawblade, but I bought the 60 because I wanted the cleaner finish.

          1. Suthenboy

            Good choice.

          2. Suthenboy

            Oh, and I should mention: be careful and learn how to use it well. There are a zillion instructional videos on youtube. You can build a damned space shuttle with that thing. There is almost nothing you cant do.

          3. Right now, I want to square the rip guard. It’s marginally further away at the far end than the front. It wasn’t as important on the 2×4 test, as I was trying to make sure it worked, but it’ll matter when I have real work.

          4. Festus

            I lurked on the other thread and can’t stress the importance enough for UCS to purchase a quality compound miter saw forthwith! Angle cuts are foundational. Just be sure to tune it every time you move it, they can be cantankerous and a degree out in any dimension will fuck larger projects before you can say “Ow, My Budget!”

      3. quincy

        Is your ex-wife at least making good use of the saw in some sort of productive capacity?

        1. Suthenboy

          Of course not. Her brother took it apart and left it on a dirt floor in a leaky shed. It rusted to pieces.

          Oh well. I got my freedom and ended up marrying my current wife. Small price to pay.

          1. Festus

            If she’s anything like my Ex, she would have used it as an ornamental planter. Bitch sold my hockey gear (and everything else of value) for pennies on the dollar when she found out I had a new squeeze. Vindictive. I was prescient enough to take my golf clubs and skis with me when I left. Twenty+ years and it still burns to the touch.

  34. Suthenboy

    I cant count how many hurricanes I have ridden out. Bad ones and not so bad ones. It is almost boring to me now. I would probably feel differently if I lived in a trailer park instead of my concrete lair. I had to get the wife to change the channel away from the news earlier because I was tired of hearing about it.

    I keep disaster supplies year-round. Around here we have floods, ice storms and hurricanes so that covers the whole year. I am always amused by the people fighting over bottled water and propane the day before one of these things hits like it caught them by surprise.

    1. Akira

      I am always amused by the people fighting over bottled water and propane the day before one of these things hits like it caught them by surprise.

      And yet, these same people probably make fun of “preppers” who stockpile food, water, ammo, and batteries in their homes.

      1. Suthenboy

        Now that you mention it, yeah.

        1. hayeksplosives

          Mr Hayeksplosives teased me last year when I put together my own first aid kit (after seeing none online that were adequate for real emergencies), then put together containers of dehydrated food, water pouches, handcrank radios (shortwave, regular, and weather), handcrank/solar chargers, lighters, flares, etc. And yet he was enthusiastically on board with laying in more ammo.

          But you can’t eat ammo. Either you prep for an emergency, or you don’t.

  35. Trappiste Rochefort 10 @ 11.3% just what I need to start the weekend.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      I’m having…..

      Wait for it….

      Bud Light PLATINUM.

      What? Shut up!

      1. quincy

        What’s the deposit on a Platinum can?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Bottles. Sapphire bottles.

          1. quincy

            Sapphire. The fanciest form of aluminum.

      2. Gilmore

        let me guess: you found it in the garbage, and being a good citizen, knew that beer should only ever be disposed via male-plumbing.

        **true story: i was once in a meeting with Augie Bush III (then VP of marketing, later to become CEO and seller of the company) and he was talking about their push to create a ‘superpremium’ line of Budweiser to compete against imports. and i actually laughed out loud and said something to the effect of, “look you can dress a fat slob up in a tuxedo, but it still doesn’t make him james bond”

        a few people actually laughed politely, but i could see this, “ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE” look in their eyes, like they knew my body was going to be found floating in the mississippi later that evening. Augie took it quite well and continued to try and convince me that Bud could be extra-super-special-premium.

        1. Well I’m back on coke zero while feeling tipsy from the first one. I’ll probably chase it with a Devil’s Backbone Vienna Lager – always good straight from the bottle.

        2. Gilmore

          **as he further tried to convince me of the plausibility of this idea, he also explained, “We’re partnering with Jay-Z to do a series of promotions”

          i laughed out loud again. i was like their worst nightmare that day.

          I had to look it up: it was “Bud Select” at the time, not Bud platinum.

          1. Roger Wilco

            Their strategy of just buying domestic crafts and micros is going to work out better than trying to create it themselves.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anheuser-Busch_brands

        3. Playa Manhattan

          No, I actually paid for it, but there’s a good reason.

          I’m going out much later tonight, and I’m trying to keep the calories down before I go. If I have cocktails, I’ll end up drunk and hungry 2 hours before dinner starts.

          BudPlatinum is 6% at 130 calories, my usual Sculpin is 7% at 230 calories. Gotta stay hydrated.

          1. Gilmore

            I admire your responsibility and restraint.

          2. egould310

            “I’m going out much later tonight…” That’s why God gave us cocaine.

          3. Playa Manhattan

            You know me, man. I don’t even smoke weed.

            Which is why I have to drink twice as much to make up for it.

          4. egould310

            I can’t even imagine what you would be like on cocaine. You’re very ornery when you’re sober. Doubly so when you’ve been drinking.

          5. AlmightyJB

            It’s not bad. That 6% catches up quickly in a light beer.

    2. egould310

      Finally! Someone poured a drink around here. I’m going for a Jim Beam cut with a splash of water.

    3. I had a Sauvignon Blanc with dinner, and will have vodka tonight.

      1. Festus

        Panty-remover! So who’s the special feller?

    4. Hyperion

      Heineken.

  36. hayeksplosives

    My poor hubs isn’t feeling well so he is skipping alcohol altogether tonight. I feel bad for him. But not bad enough to refrain from making drinks for me…

    1. Hyperion

      You so mean.

      1. hayeksplosives

        Yeah, well…at least I am not asking him to make them for me, as he usually does. Or even asking the orphans to do so! They have the night off in honor of the OK State game.

    2. DOOMco

      Alternating good beer and cheap beer.