Thursday Afternoon Links

Happy Thursday. I just had corned beef hash for lunch made out of the leftovers of last night’s dinner. That’s one of those meals that just feels like the best parts of my childhood. Boiled meat and root vegetables, refried in the pan the next day. Meals of the traditionally rich!

Hobo and Lurch, tag-team 2020

This one gave me an awkward semi. The idea of seeing John Kerry mercilessly pummeled on twitter and in campaign speeches by Donald Trump would be a fine way to spend 2020. I mean, when I’m not mourning the fact that people don’t get beat into a coma for bringing up John Kerry as a serious presidential candidate. Hey guys, I’ve got a great idea! We ran the worst Secretary of State since WWII and she lost. Let’s run the second worst and see how he does. If you’re seriously considering previous losers for your party’s presidential candidate you’re either voting for Ron Paul or you belong to a Loser Party. /rant

This is some dictatorial shit right here. Not that I think Chelsea Clinton would be safe if Hillary thought offing her would deliver the presidency in 2020.

Scientist discover animal without a brain that sleeps. Apparently running their first study on DMV clerks.

Local to me people who need to be tied up in a sack and beaten. Oh, you disagree with your neighbor cutting trees on his own property? Go jump right up your own ass you lousy snitch.

Can’t wait for the 2020 version where she replaces Sanders with Kerry

This is going to be the biggest nothing ever. Or an absolute stake in the heart. But probably nothing.

Something different.

Comments

471 responses to “Thursday Afternoon Links”

  1. ron73440

    Philippines’ Duterte Promises to Kill His Own Son If Drug Rumors True

    At least he’s consistent

    1. Chipwooder

      Tough love!

    2. Florida Man

      He doesn’t want people to say things, so of course he will kill his son.

    3. “I learned it from you, Dad!”

    4. B.P.

      He doesn’t want to, but feels he owes it to him.

    5. Pope Jimbo

      It didn’t say how old his sons were. I’m going out on a limb here, but if his son is between 17 and 20, I can totally understand. Fuck boys are hard headed during that age.

      If they are in that age range, Duterte might plant a pipe himself…

    6. Gadfly

      At least he’s consistent

      Far better that than making exceptions for the connected. If you are going to advocate a punishment for a crime, then you must be willing to enforce that punishment even if the criminal is someone you care for. If you are in a position of power and cannot bring yourself to punish your loved ones according to the law, then either you or the law is unjust, and whichever it is ought to be removed.

    7. The Last American Hero

      I wonder who will play him in Narcos season 9?

  2. Chipwooder

    Nothing beats hash and eggs with grits for breakfast

    1. bacon-magic

      BACON, eggs sunny side up, hash browns, biscuits and gravy and toast. + Coffee.

      1. You can keep the coffee, and finish cooking the eggs. The yolk should not run or by loose.

        1. bacon-magic

          Sure thing toots. *chews gum while sauntering away to tell cook to not season food*

          1. That’s evil.

            I’ll go cook for myself.

            Speaking of, does Glibertarians want the second Food Article or not?

          2. bacon-magic

            Maybe if I get to edit it.

          3. Oh, yes! Sorry. My reply to you must have been eaten. Feel free to draft it up and throw it in pending and we’ll take a gander at it. Sorry about that.

            Sorry!

          4. bacon-magic

            Don’t apologize it feeds his ego.

          5. I just figured you were busy. I’ll get the draft together and upload the pictures.

      2. wdalasio

        hash browns

        This works, although the double carb with the biscuits is a bit of a problem, if you mean hash browns and not home fries.

        1. bacon-magic

          My a1c was 5.4 so I’m cheating on my imaginary breakfast.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Instead of biscuits and gravy, skip the biscuits and put the gravy on hashbrowns.

          My father claims to have invented this, but he lies all the time.

          1. bacon-magic

            Toast and gravy…yum.

          2. Mad Scientist

            My father invented the question mark.

          3. Tundra

            And a penchant for buggery?

          4. Gustave Lytton

            SOS gets ladled over everything: bread, hash browns, eggs, bacon.

      3. Troy

        Eggs over easy, heathen

        1. bacon-magic

          My tastes changed over time…used to only like hard cooked or scrambled.

    2. bacon-magic

      Don’t get me wrong…I’m Irish, hash is good but not BACON.

      1. Chipwooder

        How about bacon hash then?

        1. Enough About Palin

          Sounds like a great idea.

  3. DOOMco

    This is some dictatorial shit right here. Not that I think Chelsea Clinton would be safe if Hillary thought offing her would deliver the presidency in 2020.

    He’s no kim

    1. Ed Wuncler

      No fucks are given by Duterte.

    2. Vhyrus

      Look, we went over this yesterday. If he doesn’t have a harem of reluctant filipino women he isn’t a dictator. Period.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        To be fair, you can count on one hand members of this site that wouldn’t have a harem of Pilipino women should the situation arise.

        1. Vhyrus

          I’m thinking of starting my own dictatorship for that specific reason.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          No fucking wonder we are saddled with that idiotic family friendly certification.

          1) Filipina if you have to.
          2) Fondly called LBFM’s by anyone who has served in Asia. Little Brown Fucking Machines.
          3) My one chance to go on leave there was fucking cancelled when the New People’s Army acted up and all leave was canceled. Fuck those commies!

      2. Gadfly

        If he doesn’t have a harem of reluctant Filipinos women he isn’t a dictator.

        Fixed it to make your rule inclusive of dictators of all inclinations.

        1. one true athena

          Thank you! Harems should come in whatever flavors the dictator wants!

          1. Vhyrus

            Come on guys.. there are no gay dictators.

          2. one true athena

            Even if I don’t want the girls, I need some companions for the men who support me, don’t I? You gotta plan long-term when you’re one in charge.

  4. Ed Wuncler

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/21/betsy-devos-pays-for-her-own-travel-242977

    “The secretary neither seeks, nor accepts, any reimbursement for her flights, nor for any additional official travel-related expenses, such as lodging and per diem, even though she is entitled to such reimbursement under government travel regulations,” Hill said.

    DeVos is also planning to donate her government salary to charity.”

    What a cunt.
    /sarc

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      When you have the money it’s probably significantly less hassle to buy your own way. No paperwork to fill out, logs to date and time stamp. No public record requests. No pain in the butt journalist complaining that you stayed an extra day at a nice city after being there on business.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        I bet D staffers in Congress are already trying to figure out if they can nail her for failing to fill out required travel and expense forms.

    2. The Other Kevin

      Can’t wait to see which charity she donates to, and how it’s going to be portrayed as right-wing ultra-religious white supremacist.

      1. Brett L

        Hopefully, FIRE. That ought to just about explode their heads.

      2. Caput Lupinum

        The United Negro College Fund.

        1. Number.6

          The one Milo launched for white poor boys.

      3. Pope Jimbo

        SPLC?

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      Totally unqualified to run the Department of Education.
      /More Sarc

    4. Obviously. If she had any morals she would be doing it on the government’s dime, as per Krugman’s multiplier effect it would boost the economy 300% more. Just goes to show how much she hates children. And is probably a white supremacist Nazi.

    5. Rufus the Monocled

      Good for her.

      File under ‘Things you’ll never ever see progressives do’.

    6. Roger Wilco

      Obviously this is because she feels guilty for supporting campus rape.

      I’ve got $5 that says is or will be a take

  5. AlmightyJB

    Is all Irish music drinking songs?

    1. Just Say’n

      Or NRA songs that include a lot of drinking references. Like all their mentions of Irish car bombs and what not

      1. Number.6

        NRA !!!= IRA, man.

        1. Just Say’n

          *IRA

          It took me 30 times to try to post this. Kept getting a error message.

          1. Just Say’n

            In hindsight I should have given up after two times. I got to get back to work

    2. Caput Lupinum

      All music is a drinking song to the Irish.

    3. Florida Man

      Hard to drink while river dancing.

      1. Brett L

        They actually drink a bottle before dancing when training. That’s how they get so good. Chemical memory forces them to drink 5 or 6 shots before they perform.

        1. Florida Man

          Touché Brett. Also, EVERYONE LOOK AT BRETT. HE ADMITS TO BEING A RIVER DANCE ENTHUSIAST!

          1. AlmightyJB

            Well who isn’t?

          2. Florida Man

            Me, the rest of straight males, lesbians, the blind, people of color…

          3. BigT

            Naked river dancing would be great.

          4. Pope Jimbo

            Naked river dancing is a young mans’ game.

            Once you hit a certain age and gravity takes its toll, it stops being river dancing and becomes the most painful hackey sack session ever.

          5. Tundra

            *dies laughing*

          6. NOT a Naked Intruder

            +1 Michael Flatley’s “leggings”

      2. Caput Lupinum

        Hard to drink while river dancing.

        The innocent beginnings of “Hold my pint and watch this” revealed.

    4. Chipwooder

      Is all Irish musicculture drinking songs?

      1. bacon-magic

        And hash you appropriator you.

        1. Chipwooder

          Mom’s family is like 90% Irish (she had one German great-grandfather, though oddly enough he happened to be the one whose name they have, go figure) . Going by the percentages, I’m 46.5% Irish, 25% Italian, 25% English, and 3.5% German, thus I claim the right to appropriate any Irish culture I want!

          1. bacon-magic

            I’m more German than Irish…

          2. Drake

            So a mean drunk?

      2. thepasswordispassword

        I’m still confused by them banning cigarettes in pubs before anyone else in the EU.

      1. Enough About Palin

        Pretty gay, no?

  6. Just Say’n

    “Oh, you disagree with your neighbor cutting trees on his own property? Go jump right up your own ass you lousy snitch.”

    You hear that Lake Forest, IL? Let Mr. T cut down any tree he wants! I pity the fools of Lake Forest

    1. AlmightyJB

      Interesting that trees have more rights than a fetus.

      1. Just Say’n

        “trees have more rights than a fetus”

        New Democratic Party slogan?

    2. Drake

      While I agree with the sentiment – I pictured a guy in his backyard removing downed trees with a chainsaw like I was after Sandy. Instead it was heavy equipment clearing a lot – for construction? There is a hell of difference and I would certainly ask my neighbor what the hell was going on in that case.

      1. Brett L

        Why? Its his yard. Are the trees falling in yours?

        1. Michael

          No, but if he’s excavating it could lead to a variety of issues on yours.

          1. could

            Very important word, right there.

            I guess asking your neighbor what’s up isn’t exactly siccing the King’s Men on him, but my neighbor would need to cause actual damage to my property before I gave one single fuck what he’s doing over there.

          2. Michael

            Don’t get me wrong – fuck anybody that goes running to the authorities as their first course of action in a lot of these situations. However, I guess the probability of “could” depends a lot on the layout of the property and the parties involved. Here in Chicago many residential buildings are built very close together, and construction on vacant lots causes irreparable damage to foundations of adjacent houses with enough frequency that it is a serious concern among homeowners. Also, I’m not sure how you’d address a situation like this personally if the people doing the digging next door are developers that couldn’t give a rat’s ass about what happens to your property.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          It may be his yard, but I’m sure those neighbors have been paying a portion of his property taxes each year, so they should have a say.

          Wait. What? Never paid a dime of his taxes?

          Uffda. Fuck those guys in the neck then. I never get these zoning laws or code ordinances. If you want to have a say in what I do on my property, shouldn’t you be sending me a check each month?

      2. “We don’t want anyone taking advantage of Hurricane Irma to cut down trees without a permit,” King said. “There’s no grace period. It’s definitely frustrating.”

        FUCK. OFF. SLAVER.

        1. Roger Wilco

          Anyone else here in the City of Atlanta and have dealt with the Trees Atlanta or city aborist Gestapo? We have laws here that say any tree that is more than 6″ in diameter at chest height you can’t cut down without a permit.

          This is why I rent. Trudge down to city call whenever you want to do something on your own property? Fuck that noise.

      3. Spartan Dad

        If my neighbor had commercial construction equipment in his yard, I imagine it would quickly turn into a scene from King of the Hill with all the neighborhood men standing around, drinking beer, and taking a turn operating it.

  7. AlmightyJB

    “PHILIPPINES’ DUTERTE PROMISES TO KILL HIS OWN SON IF DRUG RUMORS TRUE”

    He can always make more kids

    1. Florida Man

      Also I’m sure investigations of politicians there are as corruption free as here in murica.

    2. Number.6

      +1 Caterina Sforza

  8. Playa Manhattan

    I’m very much enjoying this fake holiday.

    *stretch*

    1. AlmightyJB

      National Pecan Cookie Day?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Honey and apple day.

        1. AlmightyJB

          I bought some apple pie “moonshine” today so guess I’m celebrating:)

  9. Am I the first person to mention that “Luther Strange” sounds like a d-list comic book villain?

    1. D-list? With a name like that I would say B-list easily, C-list at the minimum.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Mention? Yes.
      Notice? Unlikely.

    3. Vhyrus

      Or an A list male porn star.

      1. Number.6

        +1 Number.6 nods.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Is there such thing as an A-list cuckhold pr0n star? I assume that is what Luther Strange would be.

        I’m always hearing about a ton of different guys who are banging them some Strange.

    4. Yeah…I think what keeps throwing me off is the mental association with “Luther Strode”.

  10. Dr. Fronkensteen

    Also this. Homeowners given code violation warnings after getting hit by Hurricane Irma. Needs to be run out of town on a rail. Tarred and feathered first if you happen to find any after the hurricane.

    http://wsvn.com/news/help-me-howard/warning-notice-from-miami-dade-county-after-irma/

    1. Brett L

      **revving chainsaw and waving it at code guy**

      “WHAT?! I CAN’T HEAR YOU. DID YOU KNOW THE COPS AREN’T BACK ON THE BEAT YET?!”

      1. Florida Man

        Brett: you want a beer?

        Code enforcer: it’s 730 in the morning

        Brett: Scotch?

        1. Mad Scientist

          Brett is twice as handsome as Michael Keaton, and three times drunker.

        2. +220, 221 what ever it takes.

    2. Ed Wuncler

      Reason # 3454 why I am a libertarian.

      And the crazy part was that the county stood by their decision to fine this man and others.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      I thought they have to fix it and bill you.

      Let’s see how long it takes the county to get it done.

  11. Dr. Fronkensteen

    Look at Mr. Moneybags with this corned beef and hash. Gruel it’s what’s for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

    1. Chipwooder

      Brains, brains for lunch, brains for breakfast brains for brunch, brains at every single meal why can’t we have some guts? brains are all we ever get, in this rotten fucking place, brains are all we ever get, why can’t we have a change of pace?

    2. Well for the orphans, obviously (you feed yours three courses?) but we rich libertarians eat much better. Though if your eating the weekly Swiftian meal I suppose you’re indirectly eating the gruel.

    3. Enough About Palin

      Three meals per day???

      Years ago, I saw on National Geographic a culture in Africa where the people eat only once per day — in the evening. They had food, it’s just what they did. I tried that for a couple of years — eating whatever I wanted — and it worked out fine.

      1. one true athena

        Back when I was doing some work on North Korea in the mid-90’s, one of the reports I had were billboards in Pyongyang that exhorted the people to “Eat Two Meals A Day!’

        this while Kim Jong-Il (the middle one, the elder had just died), was importing cases of thousand-dollar caviar and expensive liquor to pay off his generals. And it sounds like nothing’s changed in all these years. fuckers.

        1. dbleagle

          But it has changed. Norks look back at that time as the “good time” since things keep getting worse. nK is the only nation on Earth where is generation is shorter than the preceding. Fuckers is correct.

    4. You would no doubt prefer a choice of:

      Egg and bacon
      Egg, sausage and bacon
      Egg and Spam
      Egg, bacon and Spam
      Egg, bacon, sausage and Spam
      Spam, bacon, sausage and Spam
      Spam, egg, Spam, Spam, bacon and Spam
      Spam, Spam, Spam, egg and Spam
      Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, baked beans, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam
      Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and a fried egg on top, and Spam.

  12. Playa Manhattan

    To be fair to the both of them, I think they tied for worst Secretary of State ever.

    If Kerry runs, are we going to be forced to call him “Secretary Kerry” too?

    1. “Madam Secretary”

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Most qualified ever.

      2. ChipsnSalsa

        Secretary Ketchup

        1. Playa Manhattan

          “Secretary Ketchup, why do you hate the children?”

    2. Drake

      It would be a horrific beat-down. He would lose Walter Mondale style and the Left wouldn’t know whether to start a revolution or flee.

      That will probably be the case whoever they nominate.

      1. The Other Kevin

        Dragging out the same tired old candidate with the personality of wet cardboard worked great for Republicans in the past, why wouldn’t it work here?

    3. Chipwooder

      Who takes John Kerry seriously? Even most of the lefty types I know roll their eyes at a mention of his name.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Yeah, I don’t think they can expect the sjws to play nice with kerry. Feminist will tow the dnc lion no matter who it is

      2. kbolino

        I remember thinking when they sent him to Antarctica (while he was Secretary of State) that they had finally found the perfect place for his talents.

      3. Somalian Road Corporation

        I still have rather vivid memories of lefties in college thinking that he was the messiah come to save us all from George W. Bush. Of course, back then, libertarians were generally seen as allies if anti-Bush, rather than as Nazi collaborator fashes that should be bashed like in the current state of this brave new world.

    4. BigT

      The Ken Burns Vietnam documentary is probably driving the Kerry talk

      1. Enough About Palin

        Been watching it. Very good. I’m old enough to remember it from about 1967 on, so it was nice to learn about what went on in the 50’s and early 60’s.

        1. BigT

          I remember the Buddhist monk self immolation – gets a kid’s attention. Approx 1961

    5. I’m sticking with “Lurch.”

    1. Count Potato

      I’m not even sure what that means, but I approve:

      http://geekxgirls.com/article.php?ID=1141

      1. Number.6

        Booger hooks off the triggers, ladies.

        1. Count Potato

          Fake guns are fake. That’s like having the four rules for water pistols.

          1. It’s good practice.

          2. Number.6

            That’s true. If only Tamir Rice had realized that fake guns don’t look like real ones.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          How do you know that they weren’t actually fending off a horde of male rapists from Riverdale High?

    2. AlmightyJB

      Nom nom

    3. Just Say’n

      Google “Lauren Southern’s sister”

      1. Raston Bot

        Laura Southern is the white people of her siblings.

      2. Chipwooder

        That’s not the verb I’d like to put in front of “_________ Lauren Southern’s sister”.

        1. Number.6

          Well, nobody likes being fucked by google.

    4. Vhyrus

      She is trying really hard to get me to kidnap her, isn’t she.

      1. Number.6

        And now we get to see the truth of Eastern European Rape Culture!

        1. Chipwooder

          Azamat, we must prepare the wedding sack

  13. Playa Manhattan

    “St. Pete homeowner accused of cutting trees without permits”

    The deed to the property is my permit.

    1. AlmightyJB

      It would be a shame if anything happened to his asshole neighbors trees.

      1. wdalasio

        It would. If something happened to his asshole neighbor, on the other hand…

      1. KibbledKristen

        This came immediately to my mind!

        1. Lackadaisical

          Glad I’m not the only one. I definitely have a man-crush on his character in that.

          1. KibbledKristen

            Pretty much everything is a Ron Swanson reference for me

  14. Gilmore

    Scientist discover animal without a brain that sleeps. Apparently running their first study on DMV clerks.

    Well done.

    1. Chipwooder

      *silent tears*

  15. Raston Bot

    is John banned?

    i think i’m banned from a gun blog possibly for shit talking cop shootings, the NRA, and one of the writers who wrote that webbing belts went well with suits. a wholly unjustifiable position.

    1. Chipwooder

      So it seems. Not what I would have done, but it ain’t my sandbox.

      1. Fatty Bolger

        What was he banned for?

        1. Chipwooder

          Being himself, basically. He started in on Jessie about something completely off topic, which I gather goes back to a old dispute from TOS.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      belts went well with suits.

      What kind of suit, a wet-suit?

      1. Raston Bot

        the t-shirt that looks like a tuxedo.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          That man should be shot. There are three acceptable ways to carry a gun with a suit:

          — IWB/OWB
          — Shoulder holster
          — Slung AR-15

          1. Number.6

            Shoulder holster is questionable.

          2. Tundra

            Someone brought that up the other day. Anyone have one that is safe, because they sure look comfy.

          3. Number.6

            Civilian style is a pain to fit, adjust and put on in the morning, but if you’re in a jacket all day, and can overcome the horror that yes, you’re constantly sweeping innocent bystanders with the muzzle, then they’re comfortable.

            Tactical-style holsters tend to point muzzle down far closer to vertical, but people wear them all over the place, often the harnesses don’t keep ’em in the same orientation, and they’ll be sweeping a segment of your body a lot of the time. But at least you can get to them when your AR-15 jams while you’re clearing that factory.

          4. Tundra

            Fuck it. Cold weather is coming so I can move to OWB anyway.

            Thanks for the response.

          5. Number.6

            I will add some balance, from a guy whose advice I have taken for many years, a veteran cop and army guy from my club. His speech runs something like:

            If you get to my age without an ND, it means you ain’t been handling a gun much, but guns nowadays are so reliable, that unless you screw around with them, or use a race gun, the only time that gun is going to fire a round, is when something gets put inside that trigger guard. It’s nearly always your finger, so learn trigger discipline, double-learn how to re-holster, and get a damn gun with a decocker and learn how to use it.

            That ND will happen when you’re cleaning it, dismantling it or doing something else with it other than using it, and it ain’t gonna just go off in a holster, no matter what direction it’s pointing, unless you have your hand on it.

            Lots to potentially take issue with there, but if you practice trigger discipline, and have an appropriate gun (not a race gun, no weird smithing work, no hair triggers etc), the only person who will know you’re sweeping normies is you. If you’re stopped by a cop, they aren’t going to even consider that an issue.

            No research on this, but also, no recollection of a situation where an ND ‘spontaneously’ happened from a police/civilian-style shoulder rig, with- or without- a finger involved.

          6. mexican sharpshooter

            If you’re Dirty Harry, you don’t have much of a choice.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        I can’t judge. I wore my jungle boots with a civie suit to both my sister’s wedding and my own. And I make no apologies for it either.

    3. Gray Ghost

      webbing belts went well with suits

      Dafuq? To be clear, and at the risk of being utterly humiliated when Gilmore sees this, we’re not talking a tropical type woven or fabric belt with something like a seersucker or linen suit, right? We’re talking some hideous wilderness instructor’s belt?

      Yeah, John got banned. Go back to last Thursday’s Afternoon links, post 4 from Invisible Finger, and you can get eventually get the news from SP.

      1. Gilmore

        we’re not talking a tropical type woven or fabric belt with something like a seersucker or linen suit, right?

        Sport coat + trousers, yes; suits?…. i am skeptical. linen suits are by nature casual, but leather belt and shoes are sort of a must w/ suits regardless.

        its not something i’d go to the mat over. i’d just sniff and say something condescending like, “did you leave your baseball hat in the car?”

        1. Gray Ghost

          I had thought the leather tab/fabric body belt was acceptable as part of the preppy look for a less formal suit. Though re-reading this, I think I was envisioning a blazer/slacks or jeans combo.

          Then there’s this letter to GQ concerning whether any belt (instead of suspenders) was OK with seersucker: https://www.gq.com/story/seersucker-white-bucks-suspenders

          You could wear a multicolored grosgrain-ribbon belt on your trousers to announce your general glee at being alive. They have them at J. Press. It’s a hipper, more classically careless look than suspenders.

          Which proves your point.

          ‘Tacticool belt with a business suit’. Sigh. Did the business suit at least have 5.11-esque weapons pockets? Sealed with velcro for that Old World Craftsman touch?

          1. Gilmore

            I don’t think seersucker “suits” are really suits, but are more of a casual ensemble which isn’t constrained by suit-rules.

            Linen suits are pretty fucking close, but are worn in enough ‘suit-like’ occasions to merit applying them. in any case, its completely contextual. I had a linen suit for a while but i only ever wore it to summer weddings and cocktail parties and it got understandably trashed/wine-stained in about 2 years.

      2. Raston Bot

        tacticool belts go with a fucking business suit was the example.

        has Barfman recovered from his dehydration spell after What Happened was published?

        1. Gilmore

          In other related “news to none of us”-news:

          Road to Electric Cars Paved With Handouts

          i don’t think shorting tesla is a way to make money, but i do think at some point soon people are going to realize the economic (and practical) limitations of the technology, and realize its really just an overpriced golf-cart for commuters. Still useful for some, maybe – but not a replacement for any internal combustion autos.

          1. Gilmore

            shit, meant for below.

          2. bacon-magic

            Gilmore’d

    4. Just Say’n

      Since John is gone, I say we all pick-up the slack by posting stuff pigeon-holing all Muslims and gays- while also insisting that we totally oppose identity politics

      1. grrizzly

        John has never posted anything anti-gay. There were posters on the old site who were anti-gay, John was never one of them.

        1. Just Say’n

          I never said he posted stuff that was anti-gay. Just that he made broad generalizations

          1. Tundra

            Like pretty much every one of us?

          2. Just Say’n

            I meant it more as a joke. But, making broad general statements about the beliefs and attributes about a group is akin to identity politics. And, yes, people tend to do this with regards to Muslims.

          3. grrizzly

            Some general statements happen to be correct. For example, Islam is a totalitarian belief system that is (since you brought up gays here) unequivocally hostile to gay men. Like in punish them to death. Sure, not many Muslims take this very seriously and even fewer are willing to kill gays themselves. But this is the tenet of their faith that is not repudiated by any sizable Muslim denomination. And when secular Muslims decide to become serious about faith (that is when they get radicalized) they very much embrace that part of the Koran.

            That’s why I have a hard time comprehending how decent people can have a positive or neutral opinion on Islam.

          4. KSuellington

            That is a broad generalization.

          5. Tundra

            *tips hat*

          6. Pope Jimbo

            I never generalize broads. I love them too much.

      2. tarran

        Listen you halfwit! All you care about is smoking weed, and if you can get it, who cares if a bunch of Christians are forced to spin!

      3. He had a few other noteworthy quirks, but for the life of me I just can’t ley my finger on any of them.

        1. wdalasio

          My impression was the major ones involved being incredibly aggressive in arguing while being incredibly sensitive to pushback.

    5. Vhyrus

      Which one? Is it TTAG? Please tell me it’s TTAG.

      Although they usually bad mouth cops there too.

      1. Raston Bot

        TTAG

        i think it was Jeremy S. on the webbing belt.

        1. Number.6

          >fx: fake swedish accent < What a nigger! Ooops.

        2. Vhyrus

          I am simultaneously amused and bewildered considering the absolute trash they let commenters post over there.

          That site is quickly devolving into a dumpster fire, which is a shame cause it is one of my go to sources for gun news.

          1. Raston Bot

            Maybe the banning was widely applied because numbers are down and the stupid is up. Purged the wrong perspective perhaps.

            I still lurk for jwtaylor’s insight.

    1. Just Say’n

      Because she lost, sloopy, and my butt still aches from watching the most qualified person ever for all time of anything ever lose!

    2. Mad Scientist

      It SHOULD be news that the government is investigating people expressing free speech. This won’t be like that.

    3. Brett L

      Its always nice to see a company who say, “we have so much money, we’re giving up customers.” I can only imagine that Congressional polling must look like a massacre, and that’s why people are still beating the Russia drum.

      1. Its inconceivable. The same cocksuckers that are beating the Russia war drums are the cunts that were thrilled the Obama IRS fed donor info to Team Blue interest groups during the 2012 campaign and the midterms. Now they want to out anybody who bought campaign ads supposedly with confidentiality between them and the company they bought them from?

        I hope everybody who is about to have their contract with Facebook violated sues them into the fucking bankruptcy courts.

        This is absolutely infuriating, Its akin to a gun seller releasing the purchase info of everybody that came into his store and bought a weapon.

    1. Number.6

      Connecticut plays a sad trombone.

  16. Tundra

    Meanwhile, in Yemen.

    This is Obama’s true legacy.

    1. Just Say’n

      And Trump’s current policy. But, he won’t get criticized for this. They’ll just complain that he was ‘mean’ to Iran and North Korea at the United Nations

      1. Tundra

        Weird that pretty much the only journalist covering Yemen is the dude at AC.

        And by ‘weird’ I mean ‘not remotely weird’.

        War, war, war, war, war…..wheeeeeee!

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Clapper’s credibility is lower than whale shit and they keep quoting him as a trustworthy authority. Fuck him and them.

    2. Brett L

      This makes me certain that they did get Trump’s voice. Repeatedly. Talking about stuff that had nothing to do with Russia.

    3. wdalasio

      The fact that this guy is allowed in polite society is a travesty. He out and out perjured himself in front of Congress, the people charged with overseeing him and making sure he doesn’t do precisely the thing he did and lied about. It was his lies that Edward Snowden uncovered to the public. He lied about overstepping the rightful bounds of his authority so that he could continue to do it. In a sane world, he’d be breaking rocks at Fort Leavenworth.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        In a sane world, he’d be lucky to be breaking rocks at Leavenworth. That would only happen because a merciful president commuted his death sentence.

        Why it isn’t a huge scandal that he lied to Congress while they were exercising their power of oversight. And shame on Congress for not going apeshit over this.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          The other day someone here fantasizes about Trump recalling him to active duty to prosecute him for perjury.

  17. Gilmore

    If you didn’t already know how incredibly threatening DeVos is to the Democrat/Teachers-Unions establishment….

    …well, here’s a sign

    Everything she does, now matter how minor, is an threat to the hegemony they have over that entire sector of the American landscape. And they will defend it to the death.

    1. Just Say’n

      I hope they realize that now with Gorsuch on the court, their mandatory union dues are going to go ‘bye bye’.

    2. Tundra

      “If Secretary DeVos continues to roll back protections for students without following the law, she will have to answer in court,” said the group’s co-founder Aaron Ament, a former chief of staff and special counsel at the Department of Education during the Obama administration. “Our group will continue to monitor the Department of Education and take legal action to stop regulatory moves that put the interests of for-profit college businessmen before students.”

      As the father of a soon-to-be college kid, I invite Mr. Ament to go fuck himself. Repeatedly.

      And this ‘for profit’ nonsense makes me want to break something.

      1. kbolino

        without following the law

        Administrative regulations are not “the law”. The people foaming at the mouth about Pruitt and the EPA need to learn this lesson to. When a bunch of unelected bureaucrats get together and fart out some rules that they want to force on the masses, it’s not the same thing as elected representatives passing a bill into statutory law.

        1. kbolino

          Second sentence should end with “too” not “to”.

          1. Trigger Hippie

            You’re obviously a product of shoddy ‘for-profit’ education.

            *SMDH*

      2. Fatty Bolger

        Look, how could you offer a four year in-state degree at a state college for a mere $100K (plus another $50K in subsidies) if there was a profit motive involved? You don’t get that kind of efficiency in the free market, pal.

      3. Interestingly, I was reading some Sowell and he pointed out that most colleges, both private and profit, don’t really operate as “for profit” entities because of the sweet government money that flows in and all of the protection that they have, which is where we get a lot of the crap about college today. Ironically, the interests of for profit college businessmen would probably makes things several order of magnitude better for students.

    3. Chipwooder

      The group’s advisory board includes Catherine Lhamon, former assistant secretary for civil rights;

      Ah yes, the bitch behind the infamous “Dear Colleague” letter

      1. Count Potato

        Who admitted she didn’t have the authority to write it.

    4. KibbledKristen

      As much as I was fuming at the Sessions appointment, I was cheering at the De Vos appointment.

      1. Tundra

        Gee, I just can’t understand why the Libertarian brand is so weak…

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Who the hell are those losers?

        1. Just Say’n

          Former Gary Johnson campaign staff members started the group

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            The LP is a stain on libertarianism and needs to just go away.

          2. Somalian Road Corporation

            I hope you’re joking but I’m afraid that you aren’t.

            Night of the Long Stems. Purge the cosmos.

        2. Number.6

          Anti-fascist libertarians.

          Note who they ain’t critical of …..

    1. Economics

      Nothing Found

      It seems we can’t find what you’re looking for. Perhaps searching can help.

      I don’t get it.

      1. Vhyrus

        THATS THE JOKE!

    2. Vhyrus

      They are the Hydra to our Captain America. Reason maybe have been our catalyst but I say we declare war on Dankertopia.

    3. Brett L

      Libertarian Socialists? How can you be put together a philosophy of radical self-ownership with a philosophy of radical non-ownership and get anything? Who the fuck are these people?

      1. Once nobody owns anything, you will be free to do whatever you want!

        1. Brett L

          “Oh yeah? Clap.”

      2. Caput Lupinum

        The kind of idiots that think that antifa’s idiocy is consistent with the NAP. In other words, grade ‘A’ maroons.

        1. wdalasio

          Not morons. Frauds. They’ve never been libertarians in the first place. I mean how many times does Lucy (no, not that Lucy) have to pull the football away from libertarians before we get it. They pushed “liberaltarianism”. They’re still chummy with David Weigel. They get together and publish shit saying libertarians have to get okay with the welfare state. Meanwhile, they do everything in their power to drum real libertarians like Ron Paul or Token Libertarian Girl out of the movement. I’m fine with Mexicans, pot and ass sex. But, these folks’ entire model winds up progressivism with Mexicans, pot and ass sex.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            Once again Kmele was the highlight of the 5th Column.

            In last week’s episode he was the only one who pushed back on Weigel. Fuck that was painful listening to Welch and Moynihan pal around with that moron.

            At one point, Weigel made some flat assertion that Trump was a racist and when Kmele pushed back and asked him to give examples to prove that, Welch jumped in and cut him off. Later Welch said that he did it because Weigel had limited time and it would be better spent on other topics.

          2. wdalasio

            So, it’s only a matter of time until the LP, Cato and Reason declare that Kmele is a Nazi who hates black people with the heat of a thousand suns.

          3. F. Stupidity Jr.

            Later Welch said that he did it because Weigel had limited time and it would be better spent on other topics.

            Uh-huh.

          4. Pope Jimbo

            Yeah, if we are going to stop Weigel every time he makes an unsubstantiated claim, we’ll never get to hear all of his unsubstantiated claims.

          5. Chipwooder

            *applause*

          6. Somalian Road Corporation

            This kind of stuff disgusts me on an absolutely fundamental level. Fake news from fake (and well-paid) libertarians.

    4. Q Continuum

      I think I missed something… what did Tom Woods do that was so terrible?

      1. Tundra

        Duh. He’s white.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          He interviewed Chris Cantrell years ago and said he liked some of the things he was saying. This is back when Cantwell styled himself as a libertarian though.

          1. Just Say’n

            That’s what Nick Sarwark says, but it’s a fucking excuse. They’re just looking for something to smear the Mises people with. Sucking up to the Kochs (I got nothing against the Kochs, but you don’t lose points with them by trashing the Mises Institute or Murray Rothbard)

          2. Stinky Wizzleteats

            I agree…there’s nothing wrong with what Woods did or said.

          3. Just Say’n

            Richard Spencer use to go to Reason events- I don’t see anyone calling them fascists

          4. Just Say’n

            https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/his-kampf/524505/

            Explain this Nick Gillespie! Are you now or have you ever been a fascist?

          5. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Libertarians smearing other libertarians as fascists is just pathetic on so many levels.

          6. Just Say’n

            Absolutely agree. As if there aren’t enough smears thrown around

          7. Gilmore

            Richard Spencer use to go to Reason events- I don’t see anyone calling them fascists

            Nick actually did write the obligatory “I denounce Satan in all his forms” article when Nick was on his crusade to purge the alt-lighters from the collective*

            *which is exactly what i find so revolting: this idea that libertarianism has a ‘pluralism’ problem – something they never seemed to believe before, no matter how racist Ron Paul’s newsletters were, or how crazy-crackers many people on the libertarian fringe have always been: suddenly, out of the blue, we’re an intellectual monolith which MUST signal its allegiance to one side of a very stupid culture-war kibuki-war

          8. Just Say’n

            I agree. I just wish that libertarians could go back to debating more relevant issues like the Civil War (joking)

          9. Gray Ghost

            They’re just looking for something to smear the Mises people with. Sucking up to the Kochs (I got nothing against the Kochs, but you don’t lose points with them by trashing the Mises Institute or Murray Rothbard)

            Was it Brett or T from TOS (who morphed into ‘Negroni Please’ here, right?) who wrote, ‘Libertarians are always getting it screwing it up. First you win, then you purge. Not the other way around.’

            Masters of the circular firing squad, they are.

          10. Tundra

            Read this at Liberty Unbound the other day:

            Infighting: The Libertarian National Pastime

            Hard to argue.

          11. Count Potato

            “Infighting: The Libertarian National Pastime”

            Isn’t that pretty much how this site started?

          12. Number.6

            HERESY!

      2. Just Say’n

        He’s part of the Mises Institute and that’s ‘problematic’ now for reason that no one quite understands

      3. wdalasio

        what did Tom Woods do that was so terrible?

        At this point I think their major problem with him is that he’s an actual libertarian, rather than a progressive calling himself a libertarian.

    5. Vhyrus

      Now I don’t know what to think:

      https://www.facebook.com/dankertarians/posts/173740033185275

      Liberals ruin everything. Their insistence that the state must exist, grant rights, and protect rights is the toxic thinking that leads us to our current state of affairs.
      Liberals ruined the word socialist, by using the state as a means for protecting the right to labor.
      Liberals ruined the word capitalism, by using the state as a means for protecting business.
      Liberals ruined libertarianism, by using the state as a means to protecting liberty.
      All liberals are statists, and they are a plague upon free thinkers. Don’t be a liberal. Calling it ‘classical’ only means you have your head further up your ass.

      1. Brett L

        by using the state as a means to protecting liberty.

        What? That doesn’t… What?

        1. Vhyrus

          This was exactly my response. I had to stop thinking about it before I blue screened.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            The Michael Hihn school of libertarianism.

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            BULLY!

        2. NOT a Naked Intruder

          I am of the opinion that the sentiment was probably something like, “allowing the State to be the unilateral protector of rights” – kinda like saying, “you shouldn’t take the law into your hands; call the police to handle it!”.

          I say that because of the context I see in the sentence. Of course they could both mean what I said AND be fuck-heads.

          /Disclaimer – I don’t know who these people are or anything about them beyond what I’ve seen here.

      2. Just Say’n

        They’re kind of schizophrenic. They have multiple administers and a couple of them are not crazy Leftists

        1. Gilmore

          a couple of them are not crazy Leftists

          have not seen a single example of “not stupid” tho

          1. Just Say’n

            The non crazies post stuff on their Twitter feed sometimes

      3. Q Continuum

        I give the same advice about political parties as I’d give to a future daughter about men; pay no attention to their words, only consider their actions.

        1. butt-head

          “You are what you do.”

      4. kbolino

        Yes, it would be so much better if we had manorial feudalism, absolute monarchy, communism, fascism, or outright slavery instead of this insidious liberalism!

    6. Chipwooder

      Someone linked their nonsense here a while back, but reading their schizophrenic twitter feed is oddly entertaining.

      1. Chipwooder

        and then there’s this. I remind you that this was posted on a purportedly libertarian site.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        I’d say it’s a false flag to make libertarians look crazy but we already look that way to everyone else.

  18. Count Potato

    “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars
    Shouldn’t they recuse themselves when dealing with the Middle East?

    For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up, e.g. Bill Kristol is “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.” That would be kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison – translating roughly as “ingest even the tiniest little dosage of the nonsense spewed by Bill Kristol at your own peril.””

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/

    WTF??

    1. Just Say’n

      It’s a fucked up article. Philip Giraldi, who I read in the American Conservative, went full on Daily Stormer. I’m not a fan of Bill Kristol, but it has nothing to do with his faith.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      As much as I hate Bill Kristol, that does seem a tad bit over the top.

    3. kbolino

      Kristol’s problem has nothing to do with being Jewish and everything to do with being a warmonger.

      1. The Zenome Project

        Exactly; being pro-Israel and being a warmonger isn’t and shouldn’t be synonymous with each other.

        1. Just Say’n

          Just like opposing a war does not make one a terrorist apologist. This is just such stupid rudimentary stuff.

    4. Somebody in Pie’s beer thread pointed out that Valerie Plame tweeted this article.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Great album and song.

      1. Just Say’n

        Happy Rosh Hashanah. Start your new year with some blatant antisemitism from Valerie Plame.

        https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/910885290604204032

        The #Resistance has gone full on Nazi

        1. The Zenome Project

          Nazis are prog fellow travelers, so not that far of a stretch, admittedly.

      2. Count Potato

        Yes, she did. This one too, apparently:

        https://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/910952285278269440

        1. Q Continuum

          Progs are the Pele of antisemitism.

      3. Fatty Bolger

        What’s the over/under on how long before she trots out the “my account was hacked” excuse?

        1. Number.6

          Too late, she claims she went back and read the full article, and was horrified to realize what the rest of the article was about.

          Presumably, the title of the article wasn’t enough of a clue.

          1. Fatty Bolger

            Wow. I think the hacking excuse would actually be better.

    5. The Zenome Project

      Plame even timed it so that a significant group of conservative commentators who identify as Orthodox Jews wouldn’t be able to comment on Twitter about that. The definition of cowardly.

    1. Q Continuum

      Also, I hate these fuckin’ ALL CAPS sans serif fonts that the Dems have adopted since Obama. It screams contempt for the intellect of the reader.

      1. It’s just modern branding — it’s what’s trending right now (well, since the Obama era.) It will change soon enough.
        Design using the Gotham font.

  19. RBS

    Um, wow. I looked this woman up on Facebook, she definitely has the crazy eyes…

    1. Q Continuum

      Them’s a lodda words you spect me to read… readin’s gay. Whuddareya some kinda FAG?

    2. Gray Ghost

      Whole lot of fail just in the first two pages of that opinion. Let’s give legal advice for a jurisdiction we aren’t licensed in. Oh, and let’s go live in a house as part of our fee, title to said house is part of the litigation we’re advising on. Brilliant.

  20. Oh yeah – I got the first of the clamps in the mail today, so on the test project, I’ve started gluing the cedar boards together to make the base of the box. I suspect it won’t be released until saturday

    1. Q Continuum

      I actually think that it’s not outside the realm of possibility for Sweden to have codified Shariah law in 50 years.

  21. Gilmore

    In other related “news to none of us”-news:

    Road to Electric Cars Paved With Handouts

    i don’t think shorting tesla is a way to make money, but i do think at some point soon people are going to realize the economic (and practical) limitations of the technology, and realize its really just an overpriced golf-cart for commuters. Still useful for some, maybe – but not a replacement for any internal combustion autos.

    1. Tundra

      A Gilmore and a SF back-to-back.

      Well played, sir.

        1. Tundra

          A reliance on state handouts complicates efforts in nations like Britain and France to phase out combustion engines in favor of battery-powered vehicles, which are far costlier, have limited ranges and often have long charging times.

          It means the technology will have to become significantly cheaper if those governments are to meet pledges to ban sales of petrol and diesel cars from 2040 without having to hand out crippling levels of subsidies to millions of buyers.

          So, once again, they are relying on unicorn jizz to make all their dreams come true.

          If y’all thought the proggie-tear infused schadenfreude of Hildog losing was tasty, wait until Tesla goes tits up.

          1. Sadly, if (when) Tesla does go bankrupt I think Trump will try to bail them out with conditions of more American employment. His base eats it up for saving/giving more American jobs, the progs go crazy with doublethink, and everyone wins except free markets and the American taxpayers.

          2. Vhyrus

            It’s not even that. Since Tesla relies entirely on the teat of the state, it won’t go bankrupt until either the states does or the state cuts them off.

          3. invisible finger

            I don’t think employment would be the only conditions. For example, here’s some bailout money – and we;re removing the tax credit for buying a Tesla because we need to pay for the bailouts somehow so you have to compete directly with ICE and hybrids. In the long run it’s better to do one final bailout in exchange for eliminating the continuous tax credit. Tesla stockholders will support such a deal because they’d take the short term bailout that preserves some stock value giving them enough time to dump.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      I talked to my cousin about the increase in grid capacity needed to power these cars in large number. Its been discussed here before but astonishingly he never thought about how much power it would take. We will practically need a small substation for every gas station to realistically have enough capacity. His response?

      So why can’t they just build more substations?

      1. Fatty Bolger

        Ridiculous. All we need is a fleet of these to replace gas tankers, and we’re good to go.

      2. Gray Ghost

        Remember, his vote counts just as much as yours.

        It’s not a small increase in required electrical generation. Last time I looked at it, bar napkin-style, for Texas it was something like an extra third in generating capacity for swapping half the cars from IC to electric. In a state that threatens brownouts during heat waves.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Only a third? I would think it double, since everyone runs their AC at night while they are simultaneously charging the car for the next morning’s commute.

          1. Gray Ghost

            When I did it, I just did something like take the Tesla or Volt’s battery capacity, multiply it by 0.5 times the registered cars in Texas, and compare that energy number to total Texas power generation going 24/7. It was much larger than I anticipated before doing the math. And that isn’t even getting at replacing heavy IC engines (like semi-tractor trailers’ diesels) with electrics, an application I’d think was even more suited to electric power than passenger cars.

            Temps are less at night, plus business power requirements go down dramatically at night. Both of those I’d think would outweigh the ‘everyone wants a cool house to go to sleep’ effect.

            One of the late Jerry Pournelle’s columns mentioned his very eco-nutty neighbor, Ed Begley, Jr. Mr. Begley had the perquisite racks of PV cells, and a giant battery array to store their charge. Pournelle went through the math, and figured it would be cheaper for Begley to just buy power from the power company at the nighttime generating rate, store the excess to run the house during the day, and skip the PV cells entirely.

      3. How can I be broke? I still have checks in my checkbook!

      4. But Enough About Me

        It’s not just generation capacity — it’s also last-mile transmission capacity!

        If you have (say) an electric vehicle that needs to recharge a 250 kWh battery (gives approx. the same distance traveled as a tankful of gas for a bog-standard ICE car), and if you want to use one of those (still-theoretical-but-everybody’s-got-their-fingers-crossed) high-speed-recharge batteries to recharge in (say) an hour, you’re gonna need to have a 1,000-amp connection to your household, rather than the typical 100-amp one that exists in North American households today. Everything from the generation point forwards would have to be upgraded in terms of ampacity by a factor of ten, or you’re gonna have to force some people to charge up in the middle of the day, some to charge during rush hours and others to charge in the middle of the night. And even with staggered charging, you still have to upgrade the ampacity of every single household.

        No one’s thinking this stuff through in public.

        1. invisible finger

          Sounds like the nice handout to the electrician’s union and power companies.

          Of course, extra demand added quickly without commensurate supply added quickly means either the free market has to accommodate with price increases OR state legislatures pretend to set rates while simultaneously raises electricity taxes in order to hand money directly to power companies.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    I’ve started gluing the cedar boards together to make the base of the box. I suspect it won’t be released until saturday

    Are you using a mechanical attachment, like pegs, or just edge gluing.

    *not judging, just curious. Depending on what the piece is for, edge gluing is good.

  23. Enough About Palin

    The best corned beef is not boiled. There’s a butcher shop in Robbinsdale, MN that puts brisket in a big-ass rotating drum along with ground up corned beef spices. They run it for 24-hours and then if memory serves, let it rest for another 24-48 hours. Buy it, bring it home and then slow roast it as you would with any other brisket. Boiled corned beef isn’t even in the same league.

    Here’s the shop:

    http://www.hacksmeats.com/

    1. I don’t have the resources to try that at home.

      Of the home viable processes in my house, Sous Vide makes fantastic corned beef.

      A slow cooker makes the second best so far. If you can set up a rotary slow cooker for days, good on you.

      I do not boil corned beef, it takes away all the flavor.

      1. Fatty Bolger

        I do not boil corned beef, it takes away all the flavor.

        That would be a major plus for me.

        1. Easier fix – don’t buy corned beef.

          1. Fatty Bolger

            That is my policy, sir.

      2. bacon-magic

        Ummmmm….boiling corned beef with cabbage removes some of the massive salt content of it. As long as you do it right it works. I do like crock pot corned beef the best though.

    2. Vhyrus

      I pressure cook mine. Tastes good enough. It’s a walmart cut of beef so I’m not going to try to make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

      1. bacon-magic

        ^

    3. Brett L

      I had this fight with someone else. Quit Frenchifying good poor people food! You boil it ’til your snotnosed little spawn can eat it even though their teeth haven’t come in! Or the meth has caught up with grandma’s chompers.

      1. bacon-magic

        ^^^
        You want flavor add some horseradish.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Liberals ruin everything. Their insistence that the state must exist, grant rights, and protect rights is the toxic thinking that leads us to our current state of affairs.
    Liberals ruined the word socialist, by using the state as a means for protecting the right to labor.
    Liberals ruined the word capitalism, by using the state as a means for protecting business.
    Liberals ruined libertarianism, by using the state as a means to protecting liberty.
    All liberals are statists, and they are a plague upon free thinkers. Don’t be a liberal. Calling it ‘classical’ only means you have your head further up your ass.

    I don’t get it.

  25. The Zenome Project

    If there’s any single thing that I hate the most about swamp politics, it’s special kickbacks to cowards because they pretended to be against Obamacare when they really liked it. Murkowski (along with McCain) truly is the biggest piece of work in American politics. Hilariously, primary voters actually already successfully voted her out 7 years ago in favor of a libertarian, but the cockroach still got re-elected because a bunch of Democrats helped to write her in.

    The Senate’s Obamacare repeal bill may protect Alaska and up to four other sparsely populated states from major cuts to Medicaid through 2026, a potential boon to the home of pivotal GOP swing vote Sen. Lisa Murkowski.

    The plan from Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Bill Cassidy (R-La.) allows a limited number of states to opt out of its new Medicaid financing system, which would give states set sums to run their programs and do away with the open-ended entitlement that exists today.

    Murkowski helped kill the GOP’s “skinny” repeal bill in July and is being heavily courted by Republicans to support the latest repeal effort.

    Murkowski has remained publicly noncommittal. But Republicans will likely need her if they want to make good on their campaign pledge to repeal Obamacare. Republicans can only lose the votes of two of their 52 senators and still have Vice President Mike Pence cast a deciding tie-breaker vote to pass the bill.

    The Medicaid delay would potentially apply to Alaska, Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota and Montana, based on their low-density populations. Those states would be allowed to opt out on the bill’s fixed payments if certain health spending conditions are met in the prior year or the HHS secretary determines the new funding system is insufficient. The chance to opt out would end in 2026.

  26. Count Potato

    “A Texas man has been sentenced to 50 years in prison after being found of guilty of murdering his girlfriend, who he claimed died after she fell and hit her head when they were having sex in the shower.

    Lowe had told jurors on Monday that they had been taking the mind-altering drug GHB before having sex in a shower where she fell and struck her head twice.

    He testified that the couple decided to lie down after the fall but, when he woke up, his girlfriend was dead next to him.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4907102/Texas-man-gets-50-years-prison-death-girlfriend.html

    Sounds like it was an accident.

    1. Number.6

      If it was premeditated, it would have been 60.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      His trying to hide the body was a colossal mistake.

      1. Number.6

        True, but you know, panicked people sometimes do utterly retarded things …

        1. Count Potato

          Especially when they are on drugs.

    3. B.P.

      She fell and struck her head… twice?

      1. Q Continuum

        +2 suicidal shots to the head

      2. pan fried wylie

        Somebody has never fallen out of a tree.

    4. Gray Ghost

      Prior arrest for agg assault with serious bodily injury probably didn’t do him any favors at sentencing. Although the arrest should have been excluded from consideration by the jury.

      This is why people like Dick DeGuerin (the lead defense guy in the Robert Durst trial for the murder of Morris Black) are worth every penny.

      ‘Your Honor, it’s true I killed my neighbor, cut him up, put the pieces in several ice chests and fucked up disposing of the body at sea…but it was self-defense!’

      ‘Meh, why not? I’ll allow it.’

  27. Gilmore

    I think Zuckerberg’s statement today is probably my cue to delete the FB account i haven’t touched in 10 years.

    1. Vhyrus

      Anyone who posts anything even remotely sensitive or personally damning to facebook should be institutionalized. I occasionally put gun stuff on FB but it’s not exactly top secret I’m gun nut prime so I really don’t care if they know that.

      1. Q Continuum

        Wait, you like guns?

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        I post pictures of my kids because I have a lot of older relatives that otherwise wouldn’t see them. Aside from that? I get emails every few weeks from FB telling me the last time I posted.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Ha! A bunch of people in that tweet thread are accusing him of being secretly in the tank for Trump and that FB allowing this stuff proves it.

    3. Fatty Bolger

      I’d delete mine, but I never opened one.

    4. grrizzly

      Election interference.

      It just occurred to me. The Putin regime became paranoid about election interference from the West in the former Soviet republics during the presidential election in Ukraine in 2004. The campaign color of the pro-Western candidate, Yushchenko, was orange. Since then the Putin propaganda machine has warned about the danger of the orange revolutions in the former Soviet Union.

      So, which color is Donald Trump associated with?

      1. Gilmore

        which color is Donald Trump associated with

        Duh

      2. Pan Zagloba

        Holy fuck, you’ve cracked it! Get DNC on the line, stat!

    5. B.P.

      Zuckerberg is doing that pinch-finger-and-thumb-together hand gesture when he talks. Does that mean he’s running for president?

  28. Trigger Hippie

    Great song choice, Brett. I first experienced Gogol Bordello at a live show about ten years ago and have been a fan ever since.

    1. B.P.

      I saw them last weekend. They always throw a party.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Nice.

  29. Juvenile Bluster

    Today in nutpunches

    Cops shoot a deaf man for “not following commands”. He was “holding a metal pipe”, which was actually probably a cane. There were multiple neighbors telling the police the guy was deaf and couldn’t hear them. Two cops shot at the same time; one used a taser and the other used a gun.

    But it’s okay because the cops had “tunnel vision” and thought they were under threat.

    1. Mad Scientist

      Are you saying the cops weren’t paying attention to the totality of the circumstances?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Totality of the circs means whatever it has to mean to exonerate an officer.

        1. Q Continuum

          I always read that as totality of the circumcision.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Totality of the circs, to!

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        yo! Ah, screw it.

    3. Vhyrus

      I was talking about this with my gf last night. Unless the guy was also retarded I’m not going to fault the cops on this one.

      1) The pipe was reported by the article I read to be a weapon he used to fight off stray dogs on his property. Not sure where there is a stray dog problem that bad anywhere in America but if true that definitely constitutes a lethal weapon.

      2) Okay, he’s deaf. That makes zero difference in this case. Let’s say you’re in a foreign country and you don’t speak a word of the native language. A cop car rolls up on you lit up, two cops jump out, point their guns at you, and start screaming at you. You have no idea what they’re saying. Do you a) advance towards 2 armed and agitated individuals that you are unable to communicate effectively with, or b) drop whatever you’re holding and put your hands above your head until someone can sort shit out? If you chose ‘a’, I have some bad news for you.

      This is functionally no different from the transgender suicide by cop that happened earlier this week. If you’re holding a weapon and advancing on armed people, you’re gonna get shot.

      1. Fatty Bolger

        A cop car rolls up on you lit up, two cops jump out, point their guns at you, and start screaming at you. You have no idea what they’re saying. Do you a) advance towards 2 armed and agitated individuals that you are unable to communicate effectively with, or b) drop whatever you’re holding and put your hands above your head until someone can sort shit out? If you chose ‘a’, I have some bad news for you.

        Maybe you stand up to see what’s going on, and they immediately shoot you? It happens.

        They haven’t mentioned any video, so regardless of whether the cops were in the wrong or not, nothing will happen to them.

        1. Vhyrus

          There is no video, so there’s no way to know who is right in this case. They claim he advanced on them and ignored commands. The fact that bystanders had enough time to shout at the cops that he’s deaf at least partially supports that theory. If he advanced on them then I have very little sympathy for people who walk towards guns pointed at them. The picture I saw of him makes him look like he has downs or is mentally disabled, which if that is the case makes this a whole different kettle of fish.

          1. Fatty Bolger

            Was he still standing on his porch when he was shot?

          2. Vhyrus

            Doesn’t say, and that would indeed matter in this case.

      2. Do we have video evidence of what happened yet? In my experience usually both sides tend to tweak the story of what actually happened a bit to make them seem to most innocent. I’d prefer not to make this guy the disabled differently-abled Michael Brown.

        1. Vhyrus

          No video. My rule of thumb is it takes 2 to tango so it’s probably both the cops and the dead guy that are at fault.

          1. mikey

            One cop use a taser, so why did the other have to join in with a gun?

    4. Gray Ghost

      Did one of them call the other, “Slick,” and say the deaf guy was making a move, so he had to get it on?

    1. Count Potato

      “In short, men are raped by women at nearly the same rate women are raped by men.”

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/09/22/rape-cdc-numbers-misleading-definition-date-forced-sexual-assault-column/16007089/

      That means the definition of “rape” is now bullshit.

    2. Gilmore

      the comments are sort of interesting (not really, but thematically)

      its basically,

      “Any example of a disparity where women are in the minority is an example of oppression; any example of males in the minority is an example of inherent male inferiority” – QED

      1. butt-head

        Disparities where the burden falls disproportionately on men, such as men getting fucked over in family court, is the fault of Patriarchy.

        All of which is to say… next to absolutely nothing.

  30. KibbledKristen

    A colleague (who I don’t interact with and whose name I don’t know) was crying in the bathroom today. Turns out she has family in Puerto Rico. Poor lady.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      What is the endgame here? What happens when California goes bust? Because even in a Democrat controlled federal government I don’t see a bailout of that size occurring.

      1. kbolino

        Because even in a Democrat controlled federal government I don’t see a bailout of that size occurring.

        Bailouts are so retrograde. They’ll find a way to either nationalize as much as they can, thus shifting the problem to the Federal government which can issue its own debt, or they’ll create a way for states to directly turn their deficits into debt without restrictions.

      2. invisible finger

        California’s endgame has always been to push the entire nation to the left. Over the last 30-40 years whenever they’ve enacted legislation there have been plenty of large blue states to copycat them and enact the same laws. They’ve gotten so used to that that the DNC plank is basically constructed by California leftists. But they’ve pushed too far and there has now been some resistance, especially in flyover country. The DNC has been focusing on getting Illinois to remain blue because they are the biggest basket case, but it is going to be a waste of money (Democrats’ core competency) because Michigan and Ohio and probably not going to go farther left than they already have.

        The popular vote in the last election was the obvious clue that the Dems can’t see: the blue states in the Midwest are losing population to blue states on the coast AND the red states in the Midwest. The coastal blue states may have gained congressional seats, but only at the expense of seats they had in the Midwest. That flipped Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, and even Wisconsin red – and the DNC thought those would be solid Clinton victories (so she didn’t campaign there). The fact that the DNC is still in denial about this is somewhat surprising and yet the inability to apply logic is typical of the party.

    2. kbolino

      California lawmakers also voted to require presidential candidates to release five years of their tax returns if they want to compete in presidential races here — an obvious jab at Donald Trump, who inexcusably refused to release his federal tax returns during the 2016 campaign.

      “It’s none of your damn business” seems like a fine excuse to me. Where are Obama’s college records, again?

      1. BigT

        Probably unconstitutional. States aren’t supposed to control fed election criteria. But then they do decide who’s on the ballot…

        1. kbolino

          As far as I can tell, there is no actual requirement to hold a Presidential election in a state. The state legislatures are free to choose their electors however they please. CA could call the whole* election business off and just have the state Democratic Party pick the electors every time.

          * = For President, anyway; the Representatives and eligible Senators must still be chosen by election

      2. invisible finger

        Pretty much a big nothing as the state will never vote Republican and the law is clearly targeted at Trump 2020. They’re only hoping more blue states will enact the same bullshit – notably Illinois.

        It’s going to wind up biting them in the ass – can you imagine the scrutiny the GOP will do to Dem tax returns?

        1. kbolino

          I wouldn’t be surprised if the rule gets quietly dropped before any serious Democrat candidate actually has to comply with it.

          1. invisible finger

            The mistake will be when a state ups the ante and requires it of candidates for governor. Illinois never did before because the Dems don’t want people knowing the Pritzkers’ dirt.

  31. F. Stupidity Jr.

    So I compiled a little trivia in honor of Her Majesty, the Popular Vote President. My quick little survey examined the past 10 presidential elections:

    – California, unsurprisingly, helps the popular vote winner run up the score – six of the last ten popular vote winners got their greatest single-state margin there. The rest: 1988, Bush won Florida by 1 million votes; 1996, Clinton won New York by 1.8 million; 2000, Gore won New York by 1.7 million; 2004, Bush won Texas by 1.7 million

    – The three greatest popular vote blowouts: Reagan 1984, 21.4 million (!); Obama 2008, 9.6 million; Reagan 1980, 8.2 million

    – Same category, but by state: Hillary 2016, 4.3 million (CA); Obama 2008, 3.3 million (CA); Obama 2012, 3.0 million (2012)

    – The three closest popular vote wins: Gore 2000, 0.5 million; Hillary 2016, 2.9 million; Dubya 2004, 3.0 million

    – The three closest popular vote wins among the biggest margin states: Bush 1988, 1.0 million (FL); Reagan 1980, 1.4 million (CA); Reagan 1984, 1.5 million (CA). Clinton in 1992 also won California by 1.5 million votes, but his total margin of victory was 4.6 million votes – Reagan’s in 1984 was 21.4 million

    – Popular vote presidents don’t need a single state to make their margin, in most cases. But in two of these ten elections, they did: in 2000, if either New York, California, or Massachusetts didn’t exist, Gore wouldn’t have won the popular vote. Same thing in 2016: if California didn’t exist, Hillary wouldn’t have won the popular vote

    – Let’s be fair to the most qualified person ever to seek the presidency, though. I mean, if we’re going to wipe California off the map just to help Secret Nazi President, then let’s wipe Red California off the map to be fair. Well, Trump’s biggest margin came from Texas to the tune of 0.8 million votes. So without the biggest win for Trump and the biggest win for Hillary, the Popular Vote President loses again. Sad!

    1. The Zenome Project

      It’s also important to note that California’s margin last year was likely heavily distorted by their top-two primary. No Republican was on the Senate ballot, and there were numerous highly populated precincts in the San Francisco and LA areas where there were zero Republicans anywhere downballot, with Trump and perhaps a lowly House nominee with no shot being the only Republicans on a ballot.

      1. Let’s also not forget the California has a substantial number of people who legally should not be able to vote, be they illegal immigrants, dead, etc, but vote anyway. Granted that’s not a uniquely California problem…

        1. The Zenome Project

          I do wonder how many House districts that California would lose if they were careful to not count illegals and undocumented people in the Census.

      2. kbolino

        The CA GOP seems to have a lot of useful idiots. The top-two primary bullshit was sponsored by a Republican and, as mentioned in the linked article, 8 Republicans voted for the tax hike masquerading as “cap-and-trade”.

  32. KibbledKristen

    This might be just as good as the “topless fundraiser for police injured at Rastafarian farm”

  33. KibbledKristen

    THe Valerie Plame thing seems to be blowing up a lil bit on the Tweeters. Now about 1/2 my feed is Plame-related!

    1. Vhyrus

      That bitch stepped in the world’s largest pile of dog shit and now she’s smearing it all over everything she touches trying to get it off.

    2. Q Continuum

      Lefties hate (((them))), not much else to it.

      1. butt-head

        So do a lot of righties.

        Jew hate, forever bringing people together.

        1. Vhyrus

          I’m not sure how many righties actually hate jews. Fascists? Sure, but I don’t classify them as right. Conservatives? I don’t see a lot of Jew hate among legit conservatives, even neocons, if for nothing else than they love to use Israel as a vehicle for middle east interventionism.

          So who on the right actually hates jews?

          1. kbolino

            There are some paleocons, admittedly already a very rare breed, who see a Jewish-Israeli conspiracy to undermine American sovereignty. They might add up to 1000 across the entire country?

          2. Pan Zagloba

            Alt-right proper is pretty into Jew-hate, even the ones who hate Nazis for embarrassing them. They think mass immigration is a Jewish plot to destroy muh white race.

          3. The Zenome Project

            But see, as I’ve explained before, alt-righters are a lost, misguided group. The Democratic Party is their real home, but they’re into the wrong kind of racial politics.

          4. butt-head

            Eh, then you’re just playing with semantics. Their fundamental ideological similarity to the left doesn’t mean we can easily identify them as of the left—because most people don’t understand that to be the case. So if we’re using these heuristics of “right” and “left,” we might as well use their most common connotations—otherwise what’s the point of using them as heuristics (inherent vagueness and imperfect-coherence) at all?

          5. Vhyrus

            The only reason fascists are labelled as right wing is because a) they were a reactionary counter faction to the rise of communism in the early 20th century, and b) they lost and are evil so commie professors taught the last 3 generations that nazi = right wing. Take out the racism and the Nazi party platform is a socialist wet dream. They sold us a lie and we bought it hook line and sinker and now it’s time to start righting this wrong.

          6. butt-head

            I’m not just referring to fascists. Yeah, my “righties too” comment was rather glib—it’s not necessarily tied to politics at all (well, except insofar that Jew-hate simply is political).

          7. kbolino

            I think the racism needs to be elevated to one of the big reasons. The German fascists saw race as more important than class and the Italian fascists had similar ideas, although they didn’t take it quite as far as the Germans did.

            That having been said, race wasn’t as important to the Spanish fascists, but they worked closely with monarchists and the clergy, so get labeled right-wing for different reasons.

          8. Vhyrus

            “Their fundamental ideological similarity to the left doesn’t mean we can easily identify them as of the left—because most people don’t understand that to be the case.”

            Most people think America is a democracy. Does that make it a democracy? No, it makes a whole shit ton of people wrong.

            Fascist = socialism + racism, and the sooner we acknowledge this and stop perpetuating the lie that fascism is in any way a conservative movement, the sooner we can start winning the culture war.

          9. kbolino

            Fascist = socialism + racism

            I had not seen your comment when I wrote mine above.

          10. thepasswordispassword

            End-the-fed groups have overlap with Rothschild conspiracy theorists. Met several during the 2012 campaign season.

        2. Q Continuum

          I’m sensing a new version of “Imagine” written and performed by butt-head.

          1. butt-head

            imagine all the people scoring for today.

            Would be lightyears ahead of the original (which is to say, still bad).

            Actually, B&B seem the perfect audience for that song, since their decision-horizon doesn’t extend beyond the next 5 seconds. “In the long run, Beavith, we’re all dead.”

        3. The Zenome Project

          I don’t really count “alt-righters” as right-wingers, though. Richard Spencer’s political platform, if you take out the white nationalism, sounds like a BernieBro’s paradise.

          The only right-wing material that I’ve read that sounds like anti-Semitic nonsense generally comes from fringier figures like Pat Buchanan and a few VDare/Taki’s writers.

          1. butt-head

            That’s because you’re operating with the premise that, being ‘right’-wingers, they must be opposite to ‘left’-wingers. You’re viewing political categories as quantifiable on a number line, or similarly graphable. Which makes rational sense, and politicians and rhetoricians take advantage of that sense that “of course they’re opposites! Right is opposite of left!”—but it does’t really translate how those categories actually work out in practice (typically as tied to political parties, I guess? Certainly they’re very fluid and relatively incoherent).

    3. Pan Zagloba

      #hasvalerielanded ?

  34. Gilmore

    Something that occurred to me while watching ken burns’ latest thing on Vietnam

    – he seems to think Americans are (and should be) more-ready to reconcile with the Viet Cong than with the mere-memory of the Confederacy.

    “but don’t you see? The VC were fighting for their families too? sure they committed some atrocities… but consider the context……”

    somehow these sort of charitable-appeals are abandoned when it comes to the Near Enemy.

    1. Vhyrus

      Last time I checked we had reconciled with Vietnam. It’s not like Cuba where we can’t bring home vietnamese made cigars or take vacations there.

      1. wdalasio

        So, what you’re saying is that Burns and people like him haven’t reconciled with their fellow countrymen over a war that was fought 150 years ago? Yeah, sounds about right.

      2. Gilmore

        Last time I checked we had reconciled with Vietnam

        and if you’d introduced this same comparison to me in the 1980s, i’d have said,

        “dude, we’ve reconciled the Civil War like… i mean, shit, at least since Lynyrd Skynyrd…. now, on the other hand…. those slanty-eyed pajama-wearing commie dinks? you’re going to have to explain that to: Full Metal Jacket, Uncommon Valor, Rambo II, Missing in Action, Hamburger Hill, Platoon….

        My point being: what we call reconciliation with vietnam has ‘just happened’ without thinking much about it. Whereas the civil war is something repeatedly exhumed and turned into a source of antagonism, mainly because it benefits the douchebag-left who wants to pretend their political opponents are the heirs of everything evil in the universe.

        1. Tacit Rainbow

          I can only agree with this. Fucking sad.

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Dammit, Gilmore, Communism is a noble cause and all who fought and killed for it should be celebrated!

      Has he gotten to executions by Communists during the Tet Offensive yet?

      1. wdalasio

        This was offered in jest (I think), but there’s a bit of truth to it in a lot of people’s (Burns’ included) thinking. Sure, they’ll say they don’t approve of communism. But, on a certain level, they just can’t bring themselves to truly despise it. In their head, they can’t truly come to terms with the notion that the communists were the bad guys. It’s remarkably common, even among centrists. You’ll hear them say that communism was wrong, or that it didn’t work or other, similar, things. But, it’s remarkable how many people can’t really come to terms with the notion that communism was evil. In practical terms, the hammer and sickle should engender as much revulsion as the swastika. Yet, the former is considered perfectly acceptable as a fashion accessory. And current adherents are seen as, at worst, even in conservative circles, silly eccentrics.

        1. Pan Zagloba

          This was offered in jest (I think)

          It’s a Slav Joke, where you laugh because alternatives are suicide or vodka. But it’s not untrue – replace the star with a cross and watch the opinion flip.

          And if they defend it with “it was a nationalist war”, had South done the same to the North they’d be demanding US bomb Saigon to dust.

        2. Fatty Bolger

          My kids got that nonsense in school, and it got worse in college. They no longer try to defend the Soviet Union itself, of course. But the sentiment is that the communists “meant well”, and the implication is there that it might have worked with better people in charge.

        3. invisible finger

          Which communists? The VC or the French?

          Only a simpleton can pick a good guy/bad guy in that war. I feel so sorry for the US conscripts in that war because of it.

          The takeaway from Viet Nam should be that it is easy to get into war and extremely difficult to get out. I never expect defense workers to learn that because war is the health of the state. But it sucks the humanity out of you to see the average person fall so easily for picking sides – especially the young who are too naiive to realize they are the chosen cannon fodder every time.

    3. butt-head

      somehow these sort of charitable-appeals are abandoned when it comes to the Near Enemy.

      Reminds me of this:

      So what makes an outgroup? Proximity plus small differences. If you want to know who someone in former Yugoslavia hates, don’t look at the Indonesians or the Zulus or the Tibetans or anyone else distant and exotic. Find the Yugoslavian ethnicity that lives closely intermingled with them and is most conspicuously similar to them, and chances are you’ll find the one who they have eight hundred years of seething hatred toward.

      1. Pan Zagloba

        This is factually incorrect, the most hated group by far was the Gypsies, and everyone hated them.

        1. Number.6

          Preach it, brother.

      2. Gilmore

        Both Max Weber and Freud (the narcissism of minor differences) made very similar points, that the people who are most-hated, and most difficult to reconcile with, are the ones most like yourself, but who differ on a single point. – like, religion, or political view, or cultural-milieu

    4. kbolino

      What is communism anyway if not enslavement? Modern day Vietnam is somewhat free because it’s a lot less communist than Ho Chi Minh wanted it to be. Just because almost everybody is enslaved doesn’t make it not slavery…

      1. kbolino

        In reading Ho Chi Minh’s biography on Wikipedia, this bit stands out:

        In 1954, after the crushing defeat of French Union forces at Battle of Dien Bien Phu, France was forced to give up its fight against the Viet Minh.

        This is wrong. Yes, the French lost at Dien Bien Phu. They made a lot of mistakes and paid dearly for them. However, Dien Bien Phu wasn’t the lynchpin of French Indochina. The French still had ample fighting strength in the colony and could have called in reinforcements from elsewhere. French opinion turned against the continued occupation of Indochina after the loss of that one battle, and so France pulled out entirely. But they weren’t “forced” to give up. They chose to. The same was true of Algeria, although they didn’t give up so easily there.

  35. Ed Wuncler

    Is it just me or are Progressives actually agreeing with Kim Jong Il? This was from one of my former friend’s twitter:

    “I can’t believe we’re in a place where the majority of Americans are nodding along with Kim Jong Un and yelling, “PREACH!””

    Like how can someone actually applaud a man who systematically starve their citizens while living in opulence and kill his detractors in a way that would make supervillains filled with terror? And to compare Donald Trump to Kim Jong Un shows how morally bankrupt you are.

    1. Fatty Bolger

      I think your former friend is very confused about what the majority of Americans are thinking.

    2. westernsloper

      These are interesting times. They are siding with Iran now as well. Barack Obama stated the deal he made ensures they will have a nuclear weapon within ten years. But they scream if The Orange One backs out of that deal Iran will get a nuke. They will get a nuke regardless. The inspections are a joke and Obama and Kerry knew that.

      1. Gray Ghost

        I’ve guessed they have a small one now, and are tech- & 150 billion USD-sharing with North Korea to develop larger ones.

        And as soon as the IRGC admits having one, the Saudis will admit they do too.

        Should get very exciting in SW Asia over the next five to ten years.

    3. butt-head

      Easy: they’re amoral and unprincipled. And extremely egocentric. Once you start with that, it’s easy to get to “this guy who doesn’t and will never affect my life just dissed this guy whom all my friends and cohorts despise. Kinship + 1.”

    4. Gray Ghost

      And to compare Donald Trump to Kim Jong Un shows how morally bankrupt you are.

      I read it elsewhere, and am shamelessly stealing it, but, “things are so topsy-turvy and morally reversed these days, that if there actually was a zombie apocalypse, there’d be marches protesting for zombie rights the very next day.”

      They’re fucking warped, and eventually, they’ll be back in power here.

    5. invisible finger

      At this rate the left will in five years be hanging Jane Fonda in effigy for not personally killing any American conscripts.

    6. invisible finger

      Ed, the good news is whenever the left regains power they can easily reintroduce conscription until the foreign wars kill enough of their voters that they lose power again.

  36. westernsloper

    Scientist discover animal without a brain that sleeps. Apparently running their first study on DMV clerks.

    I had an interaction the other day at the DMV when I went to get a copy of my driving record. I mentioned here I have been looking for work due to my plan of going it on my own being a total fail. I just can’t line up enough work to make a living, and mentioned maybe I should head to TX. Sloopy was more than nice in telling me to head down, but after consideration I decided I don’t have it in me anymore. I have moved across this country who knows how many times for work, but I wasn’t in my 50’s then. I lack that ambition these days. Anyways, I went to get my record for a job interview with a local non profit driving their donation pickup route. It was a bullshit job, but it was a job. The state charged me $10 for them to type in my license number, print out my report and stamp it. The ladies in the office where doing an, “oh boy we get to use our new certified stamp” dance. (apparently it is new) It was the most unprofessional idiotic display of fucking state employee idiocy I have ever seen. Combine that with the fact that the asshats at the DMV charge people looking for a job $10 to prove their driving record is clean is just A1 asshole. I did not get the job in spite of a spotless driving record and having commercial truck driving experience. I am finding the over 50 job search to be a new challenging territory. I find it kind of funny. In the 2 interviews I had with that organization and just listening to how they run their operation I figured out a way to save them $300-$400 a week. (no I didn’t tell them) By all means hire the younger folk though.

    PS GET THE FUCK OFF MY LAWN

    1. Vhyrus

      So back in April I registered a new car. It took me something like 5 DMV visits to finally get it registered. About a month ago I get a notice in my mail that my new car is not insured and they’re going to cancel my registration. Well, that’s odd, because I definitely pay for insurance on it. So I go and look at my insurance policy. Sure enough, it’s on there. Then I take a look at my title. The fucking assholes mistyped my VIN number. So I have to go back again and they have to reinspect the car (they had to inspect it to begin with because it was ‘salvage’). After 2 hours of bullshit they finally get my title fixed. The woman looks at me and says “That’ll be four dollars.” After blinking several times I said “I have to pay you for a mistake you made?” She went and talked with a supervisor and after a few minutes they agreed to waive the fee “as a courtesy to me.” A COURTESY?! HOW ABOUT THE 12 HOURS OF MY LIFE YOU ASSHOLES WASTED GIVING ME A PIECE OF FUCKING PAPER AND PAINTED SHEET METAL!!! No wonder they don’t allow guns in there.

      Everytime I’m in the DMV I think how great it would be to get rid of the whole thing. Then I look around and think “But where would all the fat, boring, middle aged women on earth work?”

      1. Mad Scientist

        When I moved to Colorado in the late 90s the DMV in Denver issued me 3 driver’s licenses with mistakes on them. They type up their shit, have you pose for the photo, wait half an hour, and here you go. “You put in the wrong address.” Retype the thing, take another photo, wait another half an hour, here you go. “OK, so this time it says I’m a foot taller than I am.” Evil glares that it’s somehow my fault the fat slob is incompetent. Retype the card, take another photo, wait half an hour…..and this time she has my eye color wrong. I just accepted it and walked out at that point.

      2. westernsloper

        When I drove truck for a bit I got injured, (due to company negligence but that is a whole nuther story, and no I did not sue I moved on) so I could not take my CDL physical due to doctor ordered lifting restrictions. (7 broken ribs) The state sent me a notice my license was going to be revoked. I called them and said no problemo I am not driving under a CDL now I am injured. They said my normal license would be revoked as well and I had to downgrade it. They charged me $20 to cancel my CDL and move it back to a normal license. The DMV is Satan.

        1. Q Continuum

          “The DMV is typical of a non-profit driven bureaucratic enterprise”

          FIFY.

  37. Pan Zagloba

    Mel Brooks is still alive, and awesome. Hopefully I didn’t just jinx him.

    Mel Brooks, one of Hollywood’s funniest film-makers, has told the BBC political correctness is “the death of comedy”.

    He said Blazing Saddles, his Western spoof about a black sheriff in a racist town, could never be made today.

    “It’s OK not to hurt the feelings of various tribes and groups,” he said. “However, it’s not good for comedy.

    “Comedy has to walk a thin line, take risks. It’s the lecherous little elf whispering in the king’s ear, telling the truth about human behaviour.”

    1. butt-head

      Old white man isn’t woke.

      We just need old people just die off; then utopia.

    2. Vhyrus

      I’ve been saying that for awhile now. We will never have movies as good as blazing saddles ever again because nobody would risk it.

      1. Mad Scientist

        I said, the sheriff is a *DONG!!!*

      2. invisible finger

        We will get movies like that, but they will never again be funded by the Hollywood studio system.

        Eventually every business that overstays its welcome does the same thing: “We’re woke. Therefore, we deserve taxpayer money.”

  38. Pan Zagloba

    Dammit, even adjusting for their obvious lack of taste re: the first film, the Kingsman review on BBC is not encouraging. However, at least we have this

    n The Golden Circle, Julianne Moore’s smiley drug dealer, Poppy, threatens to poison millions of people worldwide if the US Government doesn’t legalise all narcotics. Incidentally, she is so obsessed by shiny 1950s Americana that she has built a Grease-inspired town, deep in the Cambodian rainforest, complete with bowling alley, beauty parlour and burger bar: disobedient flunkies are her quarter-pounders’ main ingredient.

    Emphasis mine.

    1. Vhyrus

      It was always supposed to be a campy bond spoof but apparently it’s not looking great based on what I have read.

      The first one wasn’t exactly Citizen Kane but I am hoping it didn’t devolve into complete retardation.

  39. So….no mention of the recently announced Medal of Honor winner?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/20/president-trump-award-medal-honor-vietnam-commando-valor-laos/654686001/

    Dial ‘B’ for “Badass”

    “When I think about that four days a half century later, it was almost like one 96-hour day,” Rose told USA TODAY in an interview. “Because we got very little sleep. We catnapped a little bit. More or less, I just drank water, but I don’t remember eating much. And we were in constant contact. Starting at the end of the second day, it never let up.”

    ….
    “I had a hole blown through my foot about the size of your thumb,” Rose said. “On my right foot. That night I took my boot off to see how bad it was. My index finger, my whole finger slipped into the hole. So, I took my finger out. I remember putting my sock back on. I remember thinking, I’ll worry about that later.”
    ……

    “If you’re trying to shepherd 51 injured people through the jungle in a combat environment, where you’re constantly taking rocket and mortar and machine gun and small arms fire, you really don’t have time to think about whether you’re going to get out of there or not,” Rose said. “You’re in the moment. You have to be. You have to be concentrating on what you’re doing.”
    …..

    “On return to base, Sgt. Rose, covered in blood and wounds, refused all treatment until the other wounded men were attended to first,” according to the Army’s account. “Despite the many wounded, only three men died during the four days of almost constant contact with a superior enemy force deep in enemy territory.”

    Rose estimated his unit tied up as many as 50,000 North Vietnamese troops, saving the lives of an untold number of American and allied lives.

    For his exceptional bravery, Rose earned the Distinguished Service Cross, the nation’s second-highest award for valor. He went on to become an officer and serve “20 years, 27 days, 12 hours in the Army.”

    And what a surprise….

    The story seemed like a remarkable-but-closed chapter on the divisive war in Vietnam. Then in 1998, CNN and Time magazine reported that Rose and the soldiers involved in Operation Tailwind had been sent to Laos to capture American defectors, had used deadly Sarin nerve gas in their attack and had killed innocent civilians.

    A Pentagon investigation found that tear gas was used during the evacuation but not Sarin or any other nerve agent. Further, the mission was not aimed at defectors, but instead had collected intelligence on logistics for the North Vietnamese army and destroyed their supplies. All 16 Americans on the mission were wounded.

    CNN soon retracted the story, acknowledging that its account was fundamentally wrong.

    1. westernsloper

      Wow. Badass is right.

    2. butt-head

      On return to base, Sgt. Rose, covered in blood and wounds, refused all treatment until the other wounded men were attended to first

      I often forget that lots of people of this level of character and strength exist. (Hell, even people with small fractions of it.) And they’re often (disproportionately) in the military?

    3. Gilmore

      In the photo accompanying the article, the shirtless (and wounded?) sgt rose has a beer in his right hand, and possibly a second one in his left.

      1. Might be a bottle of pills.

    4. Gray Ghost

      5th Group guy. And assigned to SOG. They didn’t take many lightweights. I wonder which RT he was with for Tailwind, or whether that op was so big they weren’t using RTs for it?

      Nevertheless, when part of the operation concerns finding and killing potential US defectors (yeah, I know, CNN retracted the story), no wonder they classified the living shit out of everything.

      Although, not for a second do I think the US used Sarin during that operation to either prep an area for assault, or as fire support to repel NVA/Pathet Lao attackers. What a great way to slime the fuck out of the 120 guys you went to all that trouble to carry into SE Laos, none of whom were carrying chemical protective gear.

      1. Yeah, the sarin reference was just – “are you out of your minds? do you have any idea how things work in the real world – and not your paranoid delusions? Real, legit military operations.”

        Even the nazis didn’t gas their own guys in the middle of an offensive operation behind enemy lines, etc.

  40. Q Continuum

    Different women like to be fucked differently. Your tax dollars at work.

    https://scienmag.com/study-us-women-report-diverse-preferences-related-to-sexual-pleasure/

    1. butt-head

      Class

    2. Lackadaisical

      I’m disappointed they didn’t report the findings… what were the positions???

    3. Roger Wilco

      I dunno, I think 99.9999% of women like to be fucked in a certain way: not by me

    4. Akira

      I don’t understand the value of such a study. Even if it were somehow perfect and came up with a pie chart breakdown of sex moves that women prefer, that still wouldn’t put you any closer to pleasing your woman since you still don’t know what an individual woman prefers.

      I thought pretty much everyone with half a brain already knew that the only secret to good sex is to communicate with your partner about what works and what doesn’t.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        The study found that the more than 1,000 women, ages 18 to 94, surveyed reported a diverse set of preferences for genital touch, location, pressure, shape and pattern. Further, 41 percent of women preferred just one specific style of touch, underscoring the value of couples having conversations about their preferences and desires.

  41. Review this week is “Crying Freeman” – the first feature by Christophe Gans and starring the always excellent Mark Dacascos!

    1. Pan Zagloba

      They shot in Vancouver before it was cool! 10/10!

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      I was a fan of the anime OVA series until it basically just became a hentai.