Thursday Morning Links

The ball is juiced and the strike zone tends to get bigger and smaller based on the situation. But none of that was able to keep the hard-hitting Astros from coming back to win Game 2 of the World Series last night.  Hoo-boy! That was a doozy of a game.  Now its back home to Minute Maid Park, where the ball will really fly (unless they replace them with, you know, actual baseballs that don’t surprise batters when they leave the field instead of dropping in for lazy pop flies).

Also, football is back tonight as a diversion. Thank God I can watch something boring after those two action-packed baseball games.  Think about the truth in that statement for a minute and then wonder why the NFL’s attendance and viewership is really dropping like a stone.

Right. Let’s do…the links!

So now we’re supposed to believe these things about Vegas:

  1. The shooter acted alone
  2. He put up security cameras in a Vegas hotel/casino hallway without anyone noticing
  3. Nobody else helped him
  4. He shot a security guard several minutes before his rampage in a hail of 200 bullets and the police never came upstairs and nobody in a room on the floor opened their door and called the front desk
  5. His house was burgled just after the shooting but nothing important was taken
  6. And now we are being told that he took his laptop with him into that hotel room but the hard drive is gone.

OK, sure thing.  That all seems legit. Especially since the dude has absolutely none of the signs of a mass shooter and nothing else in the world makes any sense in this thing.  I’m sorry, but this whole thing feels like someone is trying to feed me a pile of horseshit.

Spot the racism! Its there.

The latest hotbed of racism?  Kellogg’s!!!!  America’s cereal manufacturers have always been racist, so this shouldn’t be news.  Those fucks at General Mills have been making fun of the drunken Irish since forever. And their “Kike Flakes” brand with the gold-dust coated flakes was obviously a bad idea in 1934.

The FBI informant that brought you the real Russian collusion scandal has been cleared to testify before the House and Senate committees on the Uranium One “deal”. That ought to fill a few pairs of pants with shit over at the DNC Headquarters, not to mention the Clinton Global Scam and there FBI.

Disgusting fat pig

Don’t worry Rosie. I’m sure you’ve got enough fat and bile stored up inside you to labor through it.

What a shitty way to go.

Still delicious, but also evil!

Where do your delicious gummy bears come from? Sugar…and slaves!

Grrrrrrrrl Power!

Enjoy the day, friends.  Banjos gets home in a few more hours from Balmer. So it looks like I’m gonna make it through her trip without going insane.

Comments

542 responses to “Thursday Morning Links”

  1. ArchieBunker

    First

    1. Negative – you need to comment on a link to be first. Even my comment below doesn’t count.

      1. ArchieBunker

        Your rules don’t apply to me.

        1. I don’t make ’em, I just enforce ’em. *cracks knuckles*

          (actually I don’t care – FoE rules don’t apply in Glib land)

          1. ArchieBunker

            Fascist thug.

          2. *goosesteps off into the sunset*

          3. ArchieBunker

            -plays music from end of the Hulk.

    2. Troy

      Dont feel bad Archie. I ran afoul of this arbitrary rule for which there is no notice.

      Sigh….. But as far as im concerned, you arw first.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        You know who else ran afoul of an arbitrary rule?

        1. Psycho Effer

          Everyone?

          1. Three felonies a day!

        2. KibbledKristen

          Josh Walker?

        3. MikeS

          George Brett?

          1. WTF

            Winner. When the ump pointed to Brett in the dugout and called him out, I learned the true meaning of the word “conniption”.

        4. Troy

          *impotently shakes fist at Chips*

    3. This trend is stupid and needs to go away.

  2. Arizona man: I’m selling my ranch after aliens tried to abduct my wife

    In one particular photo, a samurai sword lays in a pool of what appears to be dried blood. The blood allegedly belonging to an alien he says he killed on March 13, 2017. In his own comment on the photo, Edmonds claims he has slain over a dozen extraterrestrials on his property.

    “Almost immediately from the day we moved in, we began to have strange experiences,” Edmonds said.

    Other photos on Edmonds Facebook page feature injuries he says he’s suffered during encounters.

    “Wounds from recent attack here at Stardust Ranch upper right calf from battle with malevolent ET,” he wrote on one photo adding in another posted the same day, “this is why I want to move!”

    He also said the aliens tried to abduct his wife.

    “They actually levitated her out of the bed in the master chamber and carried her into the parking lot and tried to draw her up into the craft,” he said.

    1. Private Chipperbot

      Arizona, huh? Did they come in a beat up pickup truck with a coyote?

    2. Rasilio

      The Gua’uld System Lords are not gonna like this.

      1. Rick C-137

        We die free!!!

    3. Bobarian LMD

      It sounds like he needs to get a better real-estate agent; I’m skeptical of this form of viral marketing.

    4. WTF

      So, they can levitate objects, but they have no defense against swords. Sounds legit.

      1. antisthenes

        Maybe it was cold iron?

    5. mexican sharpshooter

      One of our former governors claimed to see a UFO over Phoenix. This shit is real.

      1. WTF

        Of course it’s real. “unidentified” means unidentified, it doesn’t mean “alien”.

    6. Grummun

      Paging Mr. Lizard. Mr Lizard, please check the status of your scouting teams.

  3. ArchieBunker

    How did he watch his cameras on his computer without a hard drive?

    1. SDF-7

      Only vaguely plausible thing I can think of is he was working off of a bootable USB stick and flushed it down the toilet. Otherwise it would have to be in the room too.

      Of course, since no one has a lick of sense when they say “hard drive” these days — it could have been a M.2 SSD in the first place, which would probably also be flushable — just usually ultrabooks with those drives don’t let you easily get to them.

      All that said, I’m still leaning towards this doofus flew drugs for the CIA from Florida in the 80’s and this was Company work in style or rogue op… just too many weird things. No proof — just that’s my gut until some actual facts surface.

      1. ArchieBunker

        That sounds plausible.

      2. gbob

        I don’t have enough faith in human nature to believe in conspiracies. Oswald acted alone. Terrorists crashed into the WTC. We landed on the moon. The Earth is round.

        This shit storm? God damn.

        I’m going with FBI sting goes wrong. The guy is the perfect front to play an arms dealer. His buyer goes up to check out the merchandise, then starts shooting. FBI has an “oh shit” moment, and cleans up what they can. If any family member or witness gets too uppity…well, be a damn shame if we find child porn on your computer or you get dragged down to Mexico by guys in a van.

        Incompetence and ass covering is more plausible than an organized conspiracy.

        1. Spartan Dad

          FBI has an “oh shit” moment, and cleans up what they can. If any family member or witness gets too uppity…well, be a damn shame if we find child porn on your computer or you get dragged down to Mexico by guys in a van.

          It sounds like you a describing a textbook example of an organized conspiracy. The FBI sting going wrong would not be. The cover-up, if indeed there is one, would be as conspiracy as it gets.

          1. Spartan Dad

            Though I think your theory is one of the more plausible ones.

        2. leonadasiv

          Oh I think your right. If this is anything suspicious, it’s an ass covering (which technically, is still a conspiracy). Ass coverings are ad hoc, so it explains why they are so unbelievable.

        3. ArchieBunker

          I can’t help but notice you didn’t mention spiking the water supply with fluoride……

          1. leonadasiv

            Have the ever seen a commie drink water?

          2. Bobarian LMD

            Have you ever seen a commie’s teeth?

          3. Rick C-137

            – precious bodily fluids

  4. straffinrun

    After shooting the pilot of SMILF in 2016 (on what happened to to be November 9, the day after Election Day), O’Donnell is now speaking out about the media’s part in the election,

    You can shoot me when your done with the pilot. *Barf*

  5. Suthenboy

    7. The security guard, the only eye witness, left the country for unknown reasons instead of attending a scheduled press conference.

    8. Said security guard drove himself to Mexico after being shot in the leg by a .223 and then drove himself back.

    It’s like they are trying as hard as they can to create conspiracy theories.

    1. Count Potato

      The shooter fired 200 rounds and only hit the security guard once, in the leg? Also, why were there so many guns? Why have hotel, FAA, and Air B’n’B records been deleted? How did they get the date of when he checked into the hotel wrong? How does someone make a living playing video poker?

      “It’s like they are trying as hard as they can to create conspiracy theories.”

      The frogs have not only turned gay, they are producing a musical on Broadway.

      1. Sean

        The frogs have not only turned gay, they are producing a musical on Broadway.

        LOL

      2. Cliche Bandit

        Video Poker can be a living. It is more like a job than gambling.
        First, it is called full pay video poker. It pays out over 100%, that means statistically per the odds on the machine payout as a whole. So, if you read the odds payout on a machine, say for deuces wild, it needs to pay out 4000 on a 5 coin play (or 800-1 payout) and 25 on a four of a kind. That means that you are getting better odds on the payout than the risk taken (about 100.8%). NOW, IF ( a big if) you play at 99.7% accuracy (there is a statistically ideal way to play every single possible hand) then your payout IN THE LONG RUN will be 50 cents for every 100$ through the machine. Play 700 hands an hour at $1.25, $875 an hour through the machine, making you roughly $4.37/hr…NOW a few things…Add in comp points, special progressives, and doubles days, and you get gasoline, groceries, cigarettes, pretty much anything, for free and your real rate of return comes out to about 35k a year for 8 hrs a day m-f. The minimum required starting bankroll for a quarter game is 10k…for a dollar game (which this guy played) is is SIGNIFICANTLY more.

    2. Chafed

      Yup. I don’t go for conspiracy theories but I’m still waiting for the rational explanation.

  6. Pope Jimbo

    One way to tenderize that tough piece of venison.

    Cop car has dash cam on when he hits a deer at 114mph. (Responding to report of a guy with a gun at a restaurant.)

    1. straffinrun

      Even knew it was coming and I still jumped.

    2. MikeS

      Wow!

      1. straffinrun

        No kidding. Had his antlers up and everything.

        1. MikeS

          I see (finally) what you did there.

    3. Evan from Evansville

      I get really scared driving at night. Driving through the woods of Indiana between Evansville and Bloomington…the fear of hitting a deer just perfectly triggers my pretty severe anxiety issues. I get visibly shaky when I have to do it, which is fantastic.

      Now that I-69 (Nice.) is open this is much less of a problem.

      1. Once, while driving back from college, I had a deer run right in front of me. It was so close I could see the glint of it’s nearest eye. I was traveling on the highway – 55 stay alive! (which mean 65ish) – and swerved, just missing the deer. But I almost lost control of the little Nissan Stanza as the rear wheels broke loose. Definitely one of those “OH SHIT!” moments. I suppose my 20-something reflexes saved my ass – these days traction and stability control would have kicked in.

        1. Nephilium

          I had a deer decide to run alongside me for a bit when I was biking once. That thing could have taken me out whenever it wanted to.

          1. ChipsnSalsa

            I’ve seen some videos of mountain bikers hitting wildlife, it doesn’t end well for the biker. I stop when animals (non aggressive) are running around.
            good one

      2. I hit and killed a deer about 2 years ago. I drive a Ford Explorer. It came across the road at an angle from a little behind me so I never saw it until we collided. Busted up the car pretty good but was still driveable.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Most expensive meat I’ve ever “bought”, between the deductible and the processing fee on the button buck I wiped out a couple years ago.

          $45 a lb.

          1. dbleagle

            hen I lived in rural Monterey County we had deer, elk and pigs. At night the pigs were the terrifying thing. Deer and elk you have a least some chance of seeing but a group of dark running pigs is no chance. Plus with their low center of gravity pigs roll under the car and tear everything up. Every year ~2 of my coworkers had their car totaled or their pickups require big expensive repairs.

      3. I’ll drive you through the woods at night if you come and drive me over high suspension bridges. Last time I crossed the Houston Ship Channel bridge, I almost completely seized up and I found myself going 15 mph as I started the descent. I won’t even attempt the one in La Porte because its even steeper.

        1. MikeS

          I’m the same way Sloop. Large dams also freak me out. At least on the dams I can focus on the solid roadway and pretend there isn’t death on both sides of me.

        2. Not Adahn

          The Victoria bridge over the St. Lawrence River is like that for me. Narrow, with a goddamn TRAIN within arm’s reach, and it’s not even a solid road!

          1. Nephilium

            Damn… it’s like none of you have been up north before. Behold, the Mackinac bridge! Just under 5 miles of swaying suspension bridge that’s been up for 60 years. I drove across it once during a thunderstorm, and my girlfriend was freaking out the whole time.

          2. Cliche Bandit

            I have been over it AND under it. Both are, shall we say, interesting experiences.

        3. Shpip

          I can do the Sunshine Skyway bridge (174′ above the mouth of Tampa Bay) no problem. But the I-10 High Rise bridge (a mere 115′ above the Industrial Canal) in New Orleans gives me the willies every time I cross it.

          1. dbleagle

            Try the Columbia River Bridge at Astoria sometime. It runs low across the river before starting a carrier launch ascent in order to open a ship channel below. Plus its the coastal Pacific Northwest and always blowing and raining.

    4. MikeS

      I’ve hit 5-6 deer in my life and narrowly avoided at least twice that many. Only killed one that I know of. It was a fawn. Mama took off across the road, I got on the brakes and hit her square with the front end just before coming to stop. She bounced off and fell down, got up, and ran away limping. About 2 full seconds after impact with mama, junior runs head first into my truck and drops dead. I couldn’t find any marks on the fender, so I assume he ran into the wheel.

      The fun of living in a rural area. I’m sure guys like Southen and Lachowski have similar stories.

    5. Gustave Lytton

      I used to work graves with lots of driving. I’ve hit deer and other small animals, and come close a lot more, but the worst was hitting a cow (moo kind not moose or elk). Luckily I had a fullsize pickup and the thing didn’t flip up through the windshield.

      1. Not Adahn

        No offense, but how were you unable to avoid a collision with a moo-cow? They ain’t exactly known for hurling themselves in front of cars.

        1. I’m Here To Help

          Many years ago I was attending graduate school at Auburn University. The drive down from Birmingham was mostly on a two lane country road. One dark and stormy night I was driving back to school after visiting my girlfriend in Birmingham. Truck driving the other direction was flashing his lights at me, but I thought that he was just warning me that there was a cop ahead (that road was a notorious speed trap). I slow down to the 55 mph speed limit just in case. Go down a hill and around a slight bend in the road, and then I see why the truck was flashing his lights – a bull was standing in the middle of the road. I lock up the brakes and somehow come to a halt inches away from it’s legs. Bastard of a bull just stood there, head halfway over my hood, staring at me. I back up slowly and ease my way around him.

          Once I got to the next town I stop at a gas station and call the police to let them know there was a bull standing in the middle of Highway 280. Their response – “can you describe it?” Yeah, it’s a @#$%ing big bull standing in the middle of the @#$%ing road!

        2. Gustave Lytton

          Dark night unlit two lane highway with no nearby houses other sources of light, dark colored cow roughly the same color as the pavement turned about 45 degrees so it didn’t break up the center/fog lines. I saw it prior to the crash and began braking but not enough stopping distance from 55 MPH to avoid impact.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            Also standing still and not moving, which also helped to blend in with the pavement.

  7. ArchieBunker

    That’s why my gummy bears come from trustworthy, black-market marijuana distributors.

    1. leonadasiv

      If you can’t trust your black market distributor, who can you trust?

      1. ArchieBunker

        Trust NO ONE

        1. dbleagle

          But if they change this part of the Gummi recipe can dropping orphan tears be next? Haribo makes damn addicting candy.

  8. How we learn to accept art that hates woman
    From Phil Spector to Roman Polanski, we ignore the signs of danger.

    In The Gift of Fear, Gavin de Becker wrote about how people (and especially women) learn to tamp down their natural sense of danger, often simply out of politeness. Caught between an unnameable sense of menace from an individual, and the potential social disruption of acting on it, most people prefer to take their chances with a person who scares them than to risk being thought rude. Women learn to put aside our entirely reasonable discomfort about men, in order to operate in a world where men have had most of the power and made most of the art (or at any rate, been given most of the credit for the art that we’re told counts).

    One of the things to be hoped, after Weinstein, after Hefner, is that women are listened to. Another is this: that women feel able to listen to ourselves. Not to second-guess ourselves or try to talk ourselves into behaving “reasonably”, but to pay attention to that bone-deep feeling of unease when we get it from someone or something. Most of us, for most of our lives, have been trying to square ourselves with a body of culture that, more or less, hates us. One of my favourite things about reading interviews with Ronnie Spector now is how much she shamelessly loves the sound of her own singing. It feels good when women knock the male-gaze trash off its pedestal, and fill our own ears with our own voices.

    1. straffinrun

      I can help her with that bone-deep feeling of unease.

    2. leonadasiv

      “and fill our own ears with our own voices.”

      Never thought that this was a problem, but an inability to hear their own voice would explain why they talk do much.

    3. The Elite Elite

      One of the things to be hoped, after Weinstein, after Hefner, is that women are listened to.

      Listen and believe, amiright? Who needs that pesky evidence stuff? If a woman says she was raped it must be true. Why would a woman lie?

      1. WTF

        Atticus Finch was a rape denier!!
        There’s a reason they are pulling “To Kill a Mockingbird” from schools, and it’s not because of racism.

    4. WTF

      Most of us, for most of our lives, have been trying to square ourselves with a body of culture that, more or less, hates us.

      So by “us” she means men? Because that might actually make a little sense.

    5. Akira

      One of the things to be hoped, after Weinstein, after Hefner

      Ok, wait a second… Did Hugh Hefner actually do anything besides pay women a shitload of money to get naked for his magazine and occasionally live at his colossal mansion as his fuck buddies?

      1. The Elite Elite

        Exactly. Total victims. He should’ve just paid them to exist.

    6. Chafed

      WTF did Hefner do? He was very clear about what the women were modeling.

  9. PieInTheSKy

    Haribo is known for its gummy candy products sold internationally, from the popular Haribo Gold-Bears to its Happy Cola soda-flavored gummies and Haribo Peaches. A documentary that aired on German television last week exposed the company for purchasing carnauba wax that was produced under what some consider slave conditions. – wait was it a subsidiary or did they just buy stuff ? Because they don’t seem that exposed to me…

    1. ArchieBunker

      Wait s minute, gummies have the same stuff in it that makes my boat all shiny?

      1. Bobarian LMD

        And what holds in the under-pressure air that Tom Brady throws around.

    2. hate_speech

      Well obviously nobody cares if some shitty company in a shit-hole country is treating its employees like shit. But obviously buying stuff from them is basically the same as owning slaves. You don’t support slavery do you?

      1. “Harvesting the palm leaves that the wax is made from is labor intensive, and workers earn approximately $12 a day.”

        Sure is nice of them to pay their slaves.

        1. hate_speech

          Missing from this article: Are there suppliers for this product that treat their employees more humanely?

          Also, what is $12 / day adjusted to the local markets? It’s probably still shit, but who knows.

          1. A quick Google search says the cost of living in the U.S. in general is substantially higher than that of Brazil.
            https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Brazil&country2=United+States

            Of course, taking a national average is susceptible to both high and low outliers (New York City alone likely has a staggering pull on the U.S. average cost of living), but since I didn’t see in the article where these workers are in Brazil the national average will have to substitute. Probably still terrible conditions, but these aren’t slaves, they have a choice where to work. To call them slaves denies them agency, which the left seems to like doing to brown people.

          2. Rasilio

            69 million Americans live in the metropolitan areas of

            New York
            Los Angeles
            Washington/Baltimore
            San Fran/Oakland/San Jose
            Boston

            So that is 1/5th of the country living somewhere that costs more than double the national average which means that the median cost of living for everywhere outside of those 5 cities is ~83% of what the median cost of living in the US as a whole is.

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          Wait, do gummy bears contain palm oil? Because the people complaining about this will probably care more about those orange monkeys than the workers that harvest the leaves?

          1. Chafed

            The workers have a choice. The monkeys don’t.

    3. “Candymaker Haribo was forced to address accusations surrounding its practices in producing its gummy bear products, after a documentary found that the company used ingredients made in horrible conditions for humans and animals.”

      Just wait until they find out the conditions under which lithium and cobolt is produced. I’m sure there will be just as much of an outcry-

      Oh wait, those are needed for green energy products? Move along, nothing to see here.

      1. hate_speech

        The green revolution is really about making first order costs into third or fourth order costs so you can plausibly post pictures of yourself saving the world on your instagram page.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    The latest hotbed of racism? Kellogg’s!!!!

    While they’re at it, they need to put that Nazi frog on the Sugar Smacks box out to pasture.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      You joke, but who is gonna pay for the PTSD treatment of the poor antifas traumatized by the frog, huh? This is why government should spend more o mental health. And tax corporations more to pay for it. Be moar woke my brother

    2. RBS

      What struck Saladin Ahmed was that a single brown corn pop was working as a janitor operating a floor waxer. Ahmed, current writer of Marvel Comics’ Black Bolt series and author of 2012 fantasy novel Throne of the Crescent Moon, took to Twitter on Tuesday to ask, “Why is literally the only brown corn pop on the whole cereal box the janitor? this is teaching kids racism.

      I think I found the problem.

      1. The Elite Elite

        What kid is going to be scanning the cereal box to even notice a brown flake doing the cleaning, much less associate it with “oh, brown and black people are all lesser than whites”?

        1. Nephilium

          The kids won’t. But this will make the parents feel like they did something.

        2. His whose dentist has Highlights in the waiting room?

      2. In a weird way, he has a point. Why is there only one darker corn pop on the box?

        1. ::shrugs::

          Maybe its a Sugar Smack that got lost.

          1. *opera applause*

        2. hate_speech

          Yeah, this does seem like an easy thing to fix, and probably should be. And the story made it sound like the guy was even reasonably polite about pointing it out.

          I want to know why there’s even a brown pop to begin with. Are there brown pops in the box? How is this not misrepresenting their product? I think it’s time for a class action suit!

          Also, everyone knows it’s latinos doing most of the janitorial work these days…

          1. RBS

            Yeah, this does seem like an easy thing to fix, and probably should be. And the story made it sound like the guy was even reasonably polite about pointing it out.

            No.

          2. hate_speech

            Yay for reddit style snark!

            All they have to do is make the brown guy like the rest of them or change a few of the others and make that the print going forward. Done. Easy fix, and who really cares?

            And was the complainer not reasonably polite about pointing it out to them? It is a stupid complaint, but it doesn’t seem he ginned up the usual hate mob. Practically a saint.

          3. He was “polite” for internet SJW-ing, sure.

            I’d take him to task for denigrating the janitorial services occupation — that shit is essential to any commercial enterprise!

        3. Bobarian LMD

          Somebody is not familiar with the Pops.

          There are always a few inferior brown ones in the box, over-cooked during the process.

          Racist cereal.

          The label just told the Kelloggs truth.

          1. inferior brown ones in the box, ”

            Oh hell no. ; )

          2. I know that there are burnt pops in every box, but why put one in the illustration? Sure, it’s admitting reality that not every pop is perfectly golden, but why make your product look less appealing than you want it to?

        4. Zunalter

          The eyes are quite different from every other corn pop, could it be that it isn’t a corn pop?

      3. Endless Mike

        It’s also literally the only corn pop with a discernible nose. Are we sure this isn’t antisemitism , or something?

    3. B.P.

      The picture on the box also shows a corn-on-a-stick kiosk. That’s cannibalism!

    4. Zunalter

      Best Twitter Reply:

      “@KelloggsUS it’s a losing battle. Make all Pops same color and it’s not diversity. Make dark Pop a light Pop you took away dark Pop’s job.”

      Honorable Mention:

      “I’m just surprised that no one cares to mention that all the ninjas are yellow. I mean, while we’re busy being preoccupied with skin color.”

  11. PieInTheSKy

    The loss of Dudley Dough means more than losing a pizza parlor to Roxbury regulars.
    They say they’re losing a community resource in the heart of Dudley Square and a singular business based on a premise of economic justice and healthy food.
    Launched in 2015, the fair-wage pizza shop will close at the end of the year, according to Bing Broderick, executive director for the nonprofit Haley House, which oversees the shop. While popular, the shop is not breaking even financially, which has put stress on the wider nonprofit organization.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/10/24/roxbury-dudley-dough-fair-wage-pizza-shop-close-its-doors/Mes9SKvvaKAHdHX7JHPXDI/story.html

    So many damn people talk of supporting fair wages, I sometimes wonder why these businesses don’t get more customers. Put your money (and ehm your mouth I guess) where your mouth is

    1. Suthenboy

      Didn’t we have a commie restaurant go out of business last year? The story read like an Ayn Rand novel.

      1. Chipwooder

        Yes, I wanna say it was in the Midwest somewhere.

          1. Badolph Hilter

            café prided itself on forgoing a tipping system, paying its employees a living wage, and eschewing the concept of management

            Ahhhhhhhhahahahahahahahaaaa

      2. Akira

        My friends ate at some “co-op” burrito restaurant last weekend. They said it took half an hour to get seated despite the fact that the restaurant was less than half full. They had waited another half hour for their food when they decided that they had other shit to do. When they went up to the cashier to pay for their drinks, they were told that they hadn’t even started on their orders yet. Through a little window to the kitchen area, they could see a bunch of cooks just standing around doing nothing.

        It’s a fucking burrito restaurant; it should take ten minutes tops to make a burrito. It’s not like they’re serving made-to-order pot roast or something.

        1. Cliche Bandit

          Pot roast is always better the second day…everyone knows this.

          1. MikeS

            That’s such a cliche

          2. Cliche Bandit

            This guy gets it.

    2. WTF

      Shit, it’s almost as though market forces have an impact on wages or something!

    3. B.P.

      We had a restaurant in my town, down the street from my workplace, that was run by a homeless advocacy outfit that was staffed by down-on-their-luck folks trying to get back into society. I ate there now and again. The food was good, and I liked the idea, but it seemed to succumb to uneven management. The restaurant that took over the place slings chicken and is always packed, so location wasn’t the problem.

  12. Man plans to take B.C., Alberta to court in order to prove Bigfoot exists

    “I have so much evidence, this is way beyond a reasonable doubt,” said Standing, who has been learning how to track the elusive creatures for more than 12 years. “I’m going to prove Sasquatch exists, and I’m going to prove that I can take people out and show them a Sasquatch.”

    Standing’s Notice of Civil Action to the B.C. court accuses the province of dereliction in its duty to manage and protect the wildlife within its borders, and asks the court to order a government representative – likely a wildlife biologist – to accompany him on a tracking expedition so he can prove once and for all that the elusive creatures inhabit the Kootenays.

    “This seriously requires more investigation. It’s irresponsible that nobody’s taking this seriously,” Standing said.

    1. leonadasiv

      STEVE SMITH WANT TO ‘TESTIFY ‘.

      1. MikeS

        CAN STEVE SMITH GET A “WITNESS”?!

        1. WITNESS TOO TRAUMATIZED TO TESTIFY. STEVE SMITH MADE SURE OF THAT. WITH RAPE!

          1. Gustave Lytton

            STEVE SMITH TAMPERING WITH WITNESS. AND BY TAMPERING MEAN RAPE.

        2. Rasilio

          Steve Smith make witnesses all by himself

          and by make mean rape

        3. bacon-magic

          STEVE SMITH GIVE YOU A LOAD OF EVIDENCE IN YOUR ASS

    2. Cliche Bandit

      Well, at least he has standing in court.

  13. ChipsnSalsa

    Why can’t Kellogg’s claim they were “culturally incompetent” and be given a pass?

    1. Suthenboy

      Sooner or later someone is going to have to take a stand and tell these morons to go blow it out of their ass. There is gonna be blowback for all of their shenanigans. I heard talk yesterday of mandatory patriotism classes in HS.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Look, nobody heard of Toucan Sam until he showed up in Argentina in the mid 1940s, Tony the Tiger was an infamous SS camp guard, and Fred and Barney of Cocoa Puffs fame belonged to a KKK klaven (Loyal Order of Water Buffalos my ass). Cereal has a long history of racism.

        1. Fred and Barney of Cocoa Puffs

          That’s cocoa pebbles. And I think they left that lifestyle and are now full-throated supporters of the LGBT movement with their Fruity Pebbles campaign.

          So they get a pass.

          1. SDF-7

            full-throated supporters of the LGBT movement

            I… see what you did there.

          2. bacon-magic

            Don’t forget the Fruit Loops.

  14. straffinrun

    A construction worker who got trapped in a sewer pipe died Wednesday evening in northwest suburban Streamwood.

    Maybe we can get Tim Robbins to make the movie.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      I wish I could tell you that the construction worker fought the good fight, and he made it out of that pipe. I wish I could tell you that – but construction is no fairy tale world.

    2. Raston Bot

      that death is one of those “make sure i never die this way” deaths of mine. it’s a Dr. Phoebes death. falling down a 20-inch diameter pipe that’s 20′ deep? the claustrophobia alone would kill me. i’m guessing he died from shock + suffocation. or maybe there was 2′ of standing water at the bottom and he just drowned. again. quite possibly the worst death i can imagine. not the most painful. just the worst. i’d rather be eaten by a shark. at least you can flail your arms with the shark.

      1. That goes with the buried alive fear – being trapped inside of a little box and/or unable to move as you suffocate to death. *shudders*

        1. Akira

          Even though live burial with modern medical science is probably virtually non-existent, I still want to be cremated.

      2. B.P.

        Agreed. Contemplating those circumstances…. ugh.

      3. Gray Ghost

        FWIW, he may have died extremely quickly, given it was a sanitary sewer. I can imagine the H2S levels in one of those can be really high, and H2S in large enough quantities will kill you before you realize anything’s wrong. Ask anyone in the oil and gas field. Once he was incapacitated, anoxia would have killed him in the first 10 minute

        In the Houston area, we recently had a guy who fell down a manhole, and wasn’t discovered for something like nine days. He lived.

        1. Raston Bot

          good point. i grew up hearing stories about folks passing out from the gases after stumbling into their septic tanks during the decennial cleaning.

    1. leonadasiv

      Waiting for John Oliver to wittily take down the Democrats on this one.

      1. You have a …..substantial waiting time ahead of you.

        1. Badolph Hilter

          Press 1 to have John Oliver call you back.

    2. Daaaaaamn!

      The story is interesting, but the author of that piece needs a new bio pic. She looks like a brunette Rocky Dennis.

      1. Chipwooder

        Yeah, that’s a whole lotta forehead.

    3. tacticalpillow

      The left overtly stealing from companies? No surprises here.

    4. Viking1865

      “The probe by the two committees revealed that, in approximately the last two years, the DOJ used mandatory donations to direct nearly $1 billion to such groups.”

      How much of that billion was then spent on Democratic election campaigns?

      1. AlexinCT

        I bet all of it.. Except for the stuff they used for the cheap drugs and hos…

  15. Model of Ultra High-Speed Public Transport U-Loop Unveiled

    Researchers at UNIST developed some of the most crucial parts of a hyperloop, including an evacuated tube and a linear motor on a smaller scale.

    The U-Loop model is capable of creating a vacuum state within its tube by reducing the atmospheric pressure level to one thousandth of actual conditions to reduce air resistance.

    The vehicle also uses a permanent magnet to float, and is powered by a linear induction motor instead of a traditional rotary motor.

    The model, which was first unveiled at this year’s transportation policy forum, is expected to be developed further, while the current version will be used to promote and introduce hyperloop technology.

    1. Private Chipperbot

      It’s right next to the fusion reactor.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      Depending a vacuum to make your product work seems like a tall order to fill. Might work on a 1/16 scale model or something but big boy tubes like to leak and collapse.

      1. leonadasiv

        “but big boy tubes like to leak and collapse.”

        You might want to talk to your doctor about that.

        1. Suthenboy

          Doctor? I thought that’s how it was supposed to work.

      2. hate_speech

        Yeah, sounds like someone has confused a capstone project with something that is actually feasible. I can’t even imagine what it would take to create a vacuum in a tunnel long enough / large enough to make this a mode of transportation worth having.

        Plus, wouldn’t there be safety concerns if the vehicle is damaged and the passengers are exposed to vacuum?

        1. Suthenboy

          No one is ever going to ride on the thing. They are just going to spend 20 years looting your tax dollars building it.

          1. hate_speech

            Well, if we’re really lucky, we might get a Titanic 2.0 out of it.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Launched in 2015, the fair-wage pizza shop will close at the end of the year, according to Bing Broderick, executive director for the nonprofit Haley House, which oversees the shop. While popular, the shop is not breaking even financially, which has put stress on the wider nonprofit organization.

    Maybe they can get a grant from George Soros.

    1. ArchieBunker

      Obviously not popular enough. I’m guessing they never so much as figured their Break-even point when they started it.

      1. compgrokker

        Why should they even do that? Real kkkorporations just figure out how much money they want to pocket off the backs of the poor and downtrodden. This place isn’t taking advantage of their workers, so they should just be able to run the business how they feel.

  17. PieInTheSKy

    Also Lavar Ball was right again, the Lakers won. Man’s a genius.

    1. *squints suspiciously*

    2. Am Sock

      And Lonzo dropped a back breaking 6 points in 40 minutes played, 14th highest scorer in the game. Look out Warriors.

  18. straffinrun

    Maybe covered, but…THE ALT-RIGHT IS USING LEAKED NATO PSYCHOLOGICAL WAFARE TACTICS TO SPREAD WHITE SUPREMACISM GLOBALLY

    Far right groups under the banner of the so-called ‘alt right’ are using psychological warfare techniques learnt from leaked NATO and British intelligence documents to spread white supremacism across the world, according to a new report.

    1. You know who else wanted to spread white supremacism (sic) globally.. and used psychological warfare tactics…

      1. leonadasiv

        LBJ?

      2. Margaret Sanger?

      3. Khan Noonien Singh?

        … or was he simply offering the world order?

        1. Psycho Effer

          So racist! How dare they have a Mexican play a desi!

          1. He played a Japanese kabuki actor in “Sayonara”.

      4. Badolph Hilter

        IKEA?

      5. Los Doyers

        Clorox?

      6. MikeS

        The House of York?

    2. Michael

      Holy shit. That was published in Newsweek? That is chemtrailluminumfoiluminati levels of paranoid insanity.

      1. Michael

        And it ends with a quote from noted grifter Mark Potok. This couldn’t possibly be any closer to perfection.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          This sounds really dangerous though, I mean they used both crowdfunding AND encrypted apps.

          1. leonadasiv

            Encrypting should be illegal. If you have nothing to hide then you won’t worry.

            It’s funny that the argument used by Republicans 15 years ago could now be used by the left.

          2. Its…its…almost as if the damned libertarians might be on to something about government power being abused?!?!?!?!

          3. RegicidalManiac

            Oh, don’t be absurd. Our Top Men will never abuse their power!

      2. leonadasiv

        In short, most of the mainstream media has fallen to the level of you Facebook friend who posted articles from Breitbart or DU and acts like the world is ending.

      3. RAHeinlein

        The new MKULTRA?

      4. Psycho Effer

        Newsweek is just an off-shoot of the Onion where they exclude the humor.

      5. Count Potato

        WTF happened to Newsweek?

    3. Chipwooder

      “the Institute for Strategic Dialogue”…..sounds legit.

      1. I am more of an Operational Chat guy… maybe Tactical Talk.

        1. Bobarian LMD
  19. The Late P Brooks

    The U-Loop model is capable of creating a vacuum state within its tube by reducing the atmospheric pressure level to one thousandth of actual conditions to reduce air resistance.

    Sounds legit.

  20. Tesla’s AI will guess where you want to go
    Those pre-ordering Tesla Model 3 will have an autopilot update that predicts destination

    “Surely I am not the 1st to suggest this but it would be cool to get in my car and ask it to take me somewhere,” Twitter user James Harvey said to the co-founder and chief executive of Tesla.

    He got a swift response from Elon Musk in the form of this tweet: “It won’t even need to ask you most of the time.”

    Tesla goes into more detail on the official website, explaining that this ‘full self-driving capability’ will mean all the driver “will need to do is get in and tell your car where to go. If you don’t say anything, the car will look at your calendar and take you there as the assumed destination or just home if nothing is on the calendar”.

    Availability, however, will depend on software validation and regulatory approval that hinges on the country in which the Tesla is bought.

    I don’t know why, honey, but the car keeps taking me to the strip club.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      I’ll be going to work in the morning and home in the afternoon. Look at my Google calendar, you will know the other places. Not terribly difficult.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      /Man and woman in Tesla car. Drives them to Red light district.

      Woman: Honey?
      Man (nervous laugh, faux concerned grin): This crazy fuck car! I’m returning it in the morning!

      Tesla intercom: Shall I call your usual?

      /Man stares at radio unsure what to do.

      Woman: Honey?

      /Hooker approaches car.

      He tries to wave her off with his hands as if a little dog but she continues to approach with an inviting smirk.

      Woman: Honey?

      Man (mutters to himself): Elon you cocksucker.

    3. Private Chipperbot

      “Tesla, take me to work.”

      Car drives through front of house, stops at computer, pulls up Glibs website.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        You mean the front of Rufus’ house, right?

    4. Chipwooder

      “Look, I don’t know why my car drove me to a crackhouse!”

      1. The Last American Hero

        Laugh all you want, but that’ll be enough evidence to get thrown in a rape cage in 10 years.

        And your defense of “I need to get to a house on Broad Street, not Broadway” isn’t going to fly.

        1. I told it to take me to Martin Luther Bing Boulevard, not Martin Luther King, Officer. I swear!

        2. Mad Scientist

          “I was only in there to get directions on how to get away from there!”

    5. Psycho Effer

      Isn’t this the fucker telling us that AI will kill us? I guess he means every AI except his.

  21. Nephilium

    You mentioned gummy bears without including the sugar free reviews?

    Best. Reviews. Ever. Do not read if you are in an area you cannot laugh out loud.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      I almost feel bad for SF. I was unaware of the GI issues case by sugar-free candies.

    2. In a fit of hunger, I once ate a bag of sugar free Twizzlers, aka the Colon Cleanser

    3. Troy

      I think Im going to hand these out to the kids for Halloween.

      1. Now THAT is the most Glibertarian thing I will read today.

        1. Private Chipperbot

          We hand out packets of relish and taco bell fire sauce for kids in bad costumes.

      2. We’re handing out full-sized candy bars for the neighborhood kids. Anyone who looks like they aren’t from the *area, will be getting a sucker.

        *some of the **poorer kids from the city will be driven into my suburb so they will have a safer place to trick ‘n’ treat.

        **racist!!!!

    4. The Elite Elite

      I love the review for the guy setting a bowl out for the barracks. That was hilarious, especially if it’s true.

    5. 5.0 out of 5 starsApril 25, 2014 – A day that will live in infamy
      ByAmazon Customeron April 25, 2014
      April 25, 2014 – A day that will live in infamy – I was suddenly and deliberately attack by these evil gummy bears

      It all started the day prior when my sugar tooth persuaded me to eat 2 handfuls of these sugar-free delights. Fast forward 15 hours 23 minutes and 44 seconds, the world shook. All hell broke loose inside me, a sudden headache, my skin began to perspire and something tore around in my abdomen with force enough to make me latch onto my couch with both hands and let out a sheer cry that sent my dog retreating into the bedroom, she probably knew the battle was already lost. I tried to make for the bathroom but the pressure was so intense I had to wait it out on the couch until a lapse in the gut-busting occurred and I regained control of my muscles. It took only moments before the volcano Mt Anus had blown its top. The air quickly turned poisonous from the methane and sulfuric fumes that spewed forth. Violence and terror are understatements of what happened for the next 45 minutes. I sustained 3rd degree burns from contact with the lava that flowed abruptly from my bowels, my blood pressure was at record levels, and my body mass was reduced by 4 lbs. After ample ventilation of the crime scene I quickly took a shower and changed clothes because the powerful fumes had soaked through the fabric and into the skin. I almost had a mental breakdown in the shower after realizing those little gummy bears had nearly defeated such a man that I thought I was. I can now hardly bare to look forward through the night-terrors and PTSD that will come of this horrid event. . .

      1. Psycho Effer

        Hate crime.

  22. MikeS

    A local story that blew up:

    A North Dakota post office lost his mother’s ashes. In his search, he’s found only frustration – and fury.

    It’s a real shitty situation, but the guy does his best to come off as unlikable:

    “My whole life I could remember [her saying], ‘I don’t want to be cremated; I don’t want to burn,’ ” Donald Mink said.

    And yet, the cost to ship her body to Indiana for burial would have been prohibitive, he said.

    “I had no choice, you know what I mean? Because I didn’t have the money to have her body brought back here for a funeral,” Mink said. “That was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done.”

    That sucks to be that broke, man. I feel for you. Oh…what now?

    “It’s not about the money. Me and my family, we live comfortably. We go on two or three vacations a year. I work my tail off,” said Mink, who noted he works two jobs. “It’s just, my thing is, the only way to get people’s attention is to hit them in the pocketbook. That’s the truth.”

    And then there’s this little nugget:

    Unprompted, Mink brought up the case of David Dao, whose forced removal from a United Airlines flight went viral in April…”That little Vietnamese guy, he gets his a – beat on an airplane, for not getting off an airplane,” Mink said. “He gets a lawyer that gets him probably millions of dollar . . . I call bullsh-. His injuries will heal. Me, I’m never going to get to lay my mother to rest.”

    1. leonadasiv

      Ahhh so this is just a really poorly thought out way to try to hit up someone for money. I bet this guy doesn’t even have a mother.

      1. Of course he doesn’t. It’s right there in the story!

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      It was listed as “Dead Mail.”

      *narrows gaze at USPS*

      1. *cheers, applauds, throws hat in the air*

    3. Chipwooder

      Well, let’s see: hasn’t seen her in 20 years, couldn’t be bothered to go to North Dakota to pick up the urn himself, too cheap to pay for her burial. Sounds like a real peach.

      Mink described his former attorney as “a big sissy” who “didn’t have the balls to fight” and “quit me because he said I had a terrible attitude.”

      1. See Double You

        “quit me because he said I had a terrible attitude.”

        More likely because he didn’t pay his bills.

    4. See Double You

      Ashes to ashes,
      Dust to dust,
      Don’t entrust your mom’s ashes
      To USPS trucks.

      1. MikeS

        *applauds wildly while single tear rolls down cheek*

      2. totally_not_an_escaped_ai

        Haha….This morning I scheduled with the crematorium to have my mother’s ashes shipped to me via USPS. Feeling a bit perturbed after reading that article, I have to say. On the other hand, I could use a cool million if they screw it up…

    5. thom

      A rental van and one day of driving is too much for this guy?

  23. PieInTheSKy

    Dunno how many of you hear of Jordan Peterson and what your opinion is (I am not necessarily a fan but the guy has some good point and can be interesting to listen to in small doses)

    Anyhoo allegedly according to his twitter people are putting posters in his neighborhood calling him basically a Nazi. If true seems a bit assholeish behavior, to be honest. I mean say what you will, the guy does not campaign against right (except the retarded lefty right of not being offended or some shit) and has no open associations with Nazis.

    https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/923375841286823936

    1. They call anyone to the right of Mao a Nazi. Peterson just got popular enough that he gets special attention

    2. JaimeRoberto

      I wouldn’t take it too seriously. They can’t even spell the word color correctly.

  24. Pope Jimbo

    I don’t know who Ben Shephard or any of these other people, but what a bunch of sissies in the UK!

    Twits upset because dude eats squirrel on TV Bonus points for doing it in front of PETA person.

    Personally, I love squirrel. One of my favorite things to eat. I also like hunting them. Lots of fun creeping around in the woods on a nice fall day.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      There is this channel called 18th century cooking (used to be Jas. Townsend and Son, not it is just Townsend) which I watch because I find it very relaxing for some reason. Soothing in a way, given most of the crap on yuotube. Anyway on every video there is the same guy commenting asking if he can do rabbit and squirrel recipes.

    2. Winston

      Too late to fix the Reason comment section.

    3. Urthona

      Grey squirrels are an environmental disaster and overpopulated. If people ate them it would solve a lot of problems.

      1. spqr2008

        This is true. There is only one true type of squirrel Yes, I am a White Squirrel Supremacist

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Someone’s been to Olney?

    4. Chipwooder

      The blonde is easy on the eyes

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Chip. Stay on topic. This is a story about squirrels. Maybe say “The blonde is easy on the nuts”?

      2. MikeS

        This one? I concur.

    5. bacon-magic

      Fried squirrel is delicious. Cleaning said squirrel after it eats hickory nuts is one of the stinkiest jobs ever.

      1. Suthenboy

        Huckleberries. Try cleaning one full of huckleberries. Jesus, gives me goosebumps just thinking about it.

    6. Suthenboy

      Hell we let school out on the friday before squirrel season. Work too. The whole state shuts down.

      1. Chipwooder

        yeah, but it’s Louisiana – y’all eat ANYTHING

  25. Tonio

    Yo, DB Cooper, I finished reading “The Analversary” last night. I enjoyed it, and really like the depiction of Elaine Pomeroy. Moar, pleez. And why don’t you submit it to the Glib as an article?

    1. Wait?! We were denied material to post??? Drat!

    2. Tonio

      He published a link to it here earlier this week, but I don’t think a lot of people picked up on it.

  26. Winston

    I like to rag on Justin Raimondo but I think his shots at Sheldon Richman are dead on here.

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/10/22/getting-right-catalonia/

    libertarians are supposed to peddle the cockamamie theories of an obscure nineteenth century Belgian botanist whose ideas have nothing whatsoever to do with anything that is happening in Catalonia, or, indeed, anywhere in the world. According to Richman, the people of Catalonia had best forget about the dream of freeing themselves from the tax and regulatory burden imposed by Madrid, and wait until the anarchist millennium is upon us – then and only then can they take any action to advance their interests against the Spanish state.

    I mean Richman has written about how libertarians are socialists because of Benjamin Tucker…

    Richman’s argument is so divorced from reality that any attempt to put it in a realistic context is simply unfair. Like most sectarian schemas, it isn’t meant to be applied to reality: it exists as a self-contained floating abstraction, meant to signal abstention from the real world. It is, in short, just a lot of words strung together in sentences, the intent of which is to tell us everything about the writer and nothing about his subject.

    I see no difference between Richman and Adam Lanza.

    1. leonadasiv

      It’s a good read. In regards to Catalonian nationalism, I made the comment to my friend that it’s funny that nationalism in the US is associated with the right, but in Europe, they are largely leftist groups that wasn’t too secede. (Scottish Independence, Catalan Independence). In the US we assume all nationalists are practically Nazis, but the two are separate and different.

      1. Winston

        The US left can be pretty nationalist when it suits them. See the World Wars, the New Deal, that Trek episode with the Yangs and Komms or the current anti-Russia panic.

        1. leonadasiv

          I know, I’m talking about general cultural perceptions and how they don’t make over to cultures that are even as similar as the Europeans and Americans.

    2. Jefe Hayek

      Tupy and Richman… I guess that’s the combo that gets me to get behind Raimondo

      1. leonadasiv

        I honestly had never heard if They, but he sounds like the kind of ‘libertarian’ I’ve come to expect from Cato.

    1. Badolph Hilter

      Goddam ad blocker blockers.

      Come on technology, I expect better than this.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    Drain the swamp

    Really draining the swamp means changing the policymaking process to shield it against insider takeover and manipulation. For starters, congressional staffs need to be expanded, upgraded and professionalized. Legislators would then be better able to make their own assessments of complex regulatory issues without having to depend on the biased expertise of industry lobbyists.

    Yeah, Brink, that’ll fix it. We just need to conjure up a better, smarter class of regulators mandarins, and pay them more.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Well it worked in Yes, Minister. Each congressman needs a Sir Humphrey

    2. Winston

      Brink Lindsay is a top man statist. Who woulda thunk?

    3. leonadasiv

      To drain the swamp we need to give more money to the corrupt people.

    4. WTF

      Yes, to drain the swamp, we need to expand the number of swamp creatures with incentives to maintain the swamp. Idiot.

  28. Classic Rock Is Now A Young Band’s Game
    Greta Van Fleet draws sold-out shows and hit songs with a new spin on old-school rock

    Some of the music industry’s biggest players are betting that a new sound is ready to catch on. It’s called classic rock.

    The genre is being reinvented by young musicians, some of whom are barely out of high school, who are channeling bands their mothers and fathers grew up with.

    Greta Van Fleet is a rarity in today’s music business: An old-fashioned rock band that could, some music executives say, break into the pop world.

    The Frankenmuth, Mich., group is made up of 21-year-old twins Jake Kiszka, the band’s guitarist, and Josh Kiszka, its singer; their brother and bassist Sam Kiszka, 18; and drummer Danny Wagner, 18. Greta Van Fleet’s debut EP, “Black Smoke Rising,” which features Josh’s Robert Plant-like howl and Jake’s guitar hooks, opened at No. 1 on Apple’s iTunes rock chart.

    1. Not surprised. Everything old is new again. Culture is constantly recycled with new wrinkles and wrappers.

      1. Chipwooder

        Hopefully this takes off because I can’t abide what gets played on putative rocks stations today.

    2. The Last American Hero

      Was this written by the same guy that told us the Squirrel Nut Zippers were going to start the renaissance of big band music?

  29. Rufus the Monocled

    What struck Saladin Ahmed was that a single brown corn pop was working as a janitor operating a floor waxer. Ahmed, current writer of Marvel Comics’ Black Bolt series and author of 2012 fantasy novel Throne of the Crescent Moon, took to Twitter on Tuesday to ask, “Why is literally the only brown corn pop on the whole cereal box the janitor? this is teaching kids racism.”

    Piece of shit.

    To nit pick like this and insult a profession in this manner and for Kellogg’s to fricken cave?

    Wow.

    Fuck. You. Saladin you fuckhead. Go write your shitty SJW cartoon over at Marvel where crappy artists like you will take down this once great comic entity.

    1. Q Continuum

      Yeah, I love the fact that the assumption is that being a janitor is somehow demeaning and dehumanizing. Fuck, I appreciate the janitors of the world more than I respect about 99% of Hollywood.

      1. leonadasiv

        I’m surprised he’s willing to let people know he’s a writer for Hollywood. I can’t think of a job more suited for people with no discernable value to society.

      2. Janitors are more important than CEOs in most companies.

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          Without someone cleaning the bathroom there will be a very appreciable decrease in customers.

    2. Badolph Hilter

      “OK fine, we added a coolie cornpop as a houseboy, happy now?”

    3. Troy

      As a an ex-janitor, fuck you Saladin. It is honest work that keeps civilization running

    4. Suthenboy

      Most important people in your community:

      Garbage man
      Water department employees and plumbers
      Janitors
      Electricians
      Roofers

      Talentless Artist doesnt even make the list.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        The garbage man truly is the unsung hero of the modern world.

      2. WTF

        At least three of the occupations on that list also have higher job mortality rates than the cops.

  30. Troy

    If I ever find a bottle with a Genie, my first wish is to rid of the “you know who else… ” meme.

    /get off my lawn

    1. Badolph Hilter

      Tell me about it.

    2. You know who else had a wish that couldn’t be granted…

      1. Troy

        /hunts down LH, pries his eyes open a la clockwork orange, and makes him read Sugarfree.

      2. Rick C-137

        Karl Marx!

      3. bacon-magic

        Jiminy Cricket?

    3. Private Chipperbot

      You know who else wanted to rid the world of things he didn’t like…

      1. Troy

        AHHhHHHHH

      2. WTF

        You know who else was just like Troy?
        That’s right, Hitler.

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      You’re just asking for it.

      *notes Troy’s dislike of said meme in Glib’s notebook*

    5. The Elite Elite

      You know who else was triggered by memes?

      1. Rachel Maddow? (Praise Kek!)

  31. PieInTheSKy

    So there is this thing in Romania to have sort of a ball for freshmen when high school begins. So I bring you a local outrage story that causes much gnashing of teeth in some areas of Romania. The link is useless as the text is in Romanian, but you can still click it and see the picture of the event should you be curious to see what it is all about.
    Long story short, as part of the fun and games part of such a party, there was this part where some boys held bananas between their legs and some girls competed in who can eat the banana faster. Off course, as you may imagine, some people afflicted with pareidolia saw this innocent bit of fun as somewhat similar to simulating certain adult activities, and as such que the outrage about the sexualisation of the young or something.

    http://www.mediafax.ro/social/show-erotic-la-balul-bobocilor-ancheta-la-un-liceu-din-cluj-dupa-ce-elevii-au-mimat-sexul-oral-foto-16782734

    Why do I link this you may ask? Who the fuck cares? I dunno why link anything… I find it amusing. Also it may give the more curmudgeonly glibs which may have the same affliction the change to go harrumph and say something of kids these days. Romanian kids, not like wholesome American kids who would never do such a thing, depriving you fine fellows of the chance to harrumph.

    1. Negroni Please

      Excellent. I’m happy to see Romanian mail order bride training begin so early. Y’all should edge out the Russian and Ukrainian market sure very soon with such dedication.

    2. Troy

      I give this an OMWC score of 8/10.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        2/10 at most. Way too old for OMWC.

        1. PieInTheSKy

          These girs are 14 15 year old Romanian girls, we need Old Man With Vodka Cranberry

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Old Man With Vodka Cranberry

            Dude, that’s my uncle.

    3. Urthona

      I don’t know.

      I’m going to actually go off the ranch here and say they were absolutely simulating sexual activity.

      Sorry.

      1. leonadasiv

        I don’t disagree.

      2. PieInTheSKy

        That’s crazy talk

      3. bacon-magic

        A pickle you say!?

    4. The girls don’t seem too upset. And I suppose the activity is voluntary?

      1. PieInTheSKy

        It is voluntary. And potassium is important in ones diet

        1. PieInTheSKy

          If i were a doctor i would recomend simulatin sex on 5 fruits or vegetables a day

    5. Q Continuum

      Romanian is a fake language.

      1. PieInTheSKy

        This is hate speech

        1. leonadasiv

          You need Jesus. Try that on for hate speach.

    6. The Last American Hero

      Wouldn’t it technically be gnashing of fangs?

      1. PieInTheSKy

        This is hate speech

    7. Chipwooder

      I don’t get it – don’t all girls eat bananas that way?

    8. Suthenboy

      I am not clicking on that. Y’all are all gonna end up in a cell next to the Vegas shooter’s brother.

  32. Q Continuum

    No matter what might be going wrong in your life, take a moment to be thankful for the greatest invention of all time: yoga pants.

    http://archive.is/ouRIp

    I’d go for #1 even if she had Sly Stallone’s face; that’s what paper bags are for.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      3 works fine. A few others maybe but not enough face to decide

    2. 13 – just for that innocent face *sniff*

    3. Badolph Hilter

      The one sorta decent pic of the whole set was ruined by those horrifying back stud things.

      2 stars, would not yoga pants again.

    4. Juvenile Bluster

      3
      It’s a magic number
      Yes it is
      It’s a magic number

    5. Troy

      #33. Both the location and the girl.

    6. 37, 45.

      10 made me laugh.

    7. DEG

      *insert DEG’s lame boring ass response here*

    8. Evan from Evansville

      *Rubs hands together in eager and earnest preparation*

      1 Is super hot. Again. No face is disqualified. Probably a little less fun. You don’t get a body like that by not doing drugs and rock ‘n roll. Also applies for 6, 9,

      39 wins. God she’s cute.

      51 for a very close second. She looks quite a bit spacey but I’m….perfectly willing to ignore that in the name of name of science, because that figure…can’t actually be real. That does dock her, I’m afriad.

      41 and 3 come in a rare tie for my mind’s endless battle with “Vaguely Asian” and “Hot but Distinctly Adorable.”

      A shout out to 40 for potentially distracting the Indians on our way to a WS Championship. *Cough.*

    9. bacon-magic

      YOGA PANTS YESSSSSS
      *heads to bunk…didn’t make it in time*

      1. My wife and I were once meandering out of restaurant when another couple was going in. The attractive woman kept tugging at her shirt in an effort to cover her bum. As I passed, I turned to look. She was wearing yoga pants that were sheer enough that I could see the details of the lacy black thong underneath. I’m sure she worked out at home and didn’t bother to change before leaving the house. Not that I minded.

  33. PieInTheSKy

    Former NBA Commissioner David Stern is calling for the league to reverse its medical marijuana policy.

    Speaking to former Indiana Pacers swingman Al Harrington as part of an UNINTERRUPTED feature released Wednesday, Stern said he believes the NBA should allow the use of medical marijuana in states where it is already legalized.

    “I’m now at the point where, personally, I think [marijuana] probably should be removed from the ban list,” Stern said (h/t Sports Illustrated). “I think there is universal agreement that marijuana for medical purposes should be completely legal.”

    Stern is obviously not thinking about the childrunz

    1. F. Stupidity Jr.

      File under “Why not when you ran the league?”

  34. Im just curious if the rumor is true that General Mills will be releasing a special edition Cocoa Puffs box with a scene from the Rodney King riots depicted on the back with a bunch of Puffs wearing LA Raiders gear and gold chains.

    Now THAT wound be racist.

    1. Chipwooder

      With an Eazy-He action figure inside!

  35. Winston

    I notice that Cato and the cosmotarians have a real Top Man fetish. Seriously read any pro-EU article and it will be about how they need to be run by Top Men who will solve all problems.

    1. For a spell That Other Site had a real anti-UKIP boner. You know EU = open borders/free trade, even though it comes with a big sack of shit (regulations and Top MEN) tied to it.

    2. leonadasiv

      Cato makes sense if you think about it. They are think tank, so they are kinda founded in the idea that smart people help make better policy. Rather than just advocating for principles and analyzing policy in that light.

      1. Winston

        So you’re saying that their Top Nan fetish was inevitable?

        They also assume that political elites really want to give up power. Ha ha no.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Top Nan fetish

          Does that mean they’re into GILFs?

      2. Psycho Effer

        Saw an article the other day where David Boaz was fellating Jeff Flake and giving vent to his TDS.

        1. Negroni Please

          he was just eatin a banana.

    3. Urthona

      Well, Cato is always going to stick by more free trade, and free trade is a profoundly good thing that makes the world much richer.

      The EU is associated with more free trade, but of course it’s a lot more complicated than that.

      1. Winston

        Never really liked the implication that we need a top man ruling elite to have free trade.

    4. Chipwooder

      It’s the entire purpose of the Niskanen Center – they take pains on their website to explain that they’re not trying to influence us mere peons:

      The Center’s main audience is the Washington insiders – policy-oriented legislators, presidential appointees, career civil servants in planning, evaluation and budget offices, congressional committee staff, engaged academics, and interest group analysts – who together decide the pace and direction of policy change.

      Top Men today, Top Men tomorrow, Top Men forever!

      1. Winston

        How is this supposed to work exactly? Is having zero popular support really the best way to implement change? Will lack of popular support convince the elites to change their minds? Why would the elites want to give up power?

        1. kbolino

          The goal, it seems, is not to influence the elites, but to become elites themselves. Something, something, sell your soul, something…

      2. That’s one thing that led me to libertarianism, wondering how anyone who has ever worked for a company would hope an all-powerful government would be any better.

        I mean the company I work for has plenty of “smart” credentialed people in management, but they still make terrible decisions that costs millions of dollars of waste, make changes that only add more time, not productivity, and hire people who are obviously (at least to my eyes) incompetent, or straight out con men. And this is just a microcosm of what a government can do in scope and money.

        1. Chipwooder

          There is an inherent limit to the stupidity of a company because stupid companies will eventually go under. It may take years and years in some cases, but it will happen.

          The government, on the other hand, has no such natural corrections.

          1. Urthona

            It does, but it takes much longer and involves lots of people dying.

      3. Winston

        These guys are Fabians. Except the Fabians offered the elites something they wanted and socialism did have the backing of some labour unions, intellectuals and entertainers.

  36. Rufus the Monocled

    “Zil(chectoplasm ?)‏ @ZilchExo 16h16 hours ago
    More
    It’s a completely unnecessary detail with concerning implications”

    A reply from the idiot Marvel writer with waaayyy too much nanny time on his hands to find injustice on cereal boxes (imagine how many he must see in a day!).

    And to think these people have a platform to express their moronic crap.

    I WISH and LONG for the day for a company to tell them to stick it up their ass. I bet you they wouldn’t lose much in sales.

    1. B.P.

      Taco Bell has a history of telling complainers to stick it up their ass. My favorite was in the mid/late 90s, when they ran the chihuahua “yo quiero Taco Bell” commercials. After a thunderous round of racism! ensued, Taco Bell went to eleven with the campaign, turning the chihuahua into a Peron-style dictator (complete with beret) and festooning their restaurants with huge, propaganda-like banners.

  37. PieInTheSKy

    ‘Ridiculously healthy’ elderly have the same gut microbiome as healthy 30-year-olds

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171011123728.htm

    In one of the largest microbiota studies conducted in humans, researchers at Western University, Lawson Health Research Institute and Tianyi Health Science Institute in Zhenjiang, Jiangsu, China have shown a potential link between healthy aging and a healthy gut.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      Using “‘Ridiculously healthy” causes me think you’re an idiot.

      1. PieInTheSKy

        Hey it wasn’t me

    2. Suthenboy

      Chicken. Egg.

    3. AlexinCT

      DNA, aka heredity, matters..

    4. Endless Mike

      Whenever I see “gut” in reference to a “science” article, my bullshit ganglia alert…

  38. Winston

    A criticism I’ve seen of catalonian separatism is that it is nationalist which is evil. Problem is isn’t the indivisability of a nation-state also a nationalist position?

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      The nonSpaniards bitching about this are really worried about the implications to the wonderful transnational EU, they don’t give a damn about Spain or Catalonia.

  39. CPRM

    INT–LUXURY SUITE-THE MEADOWS—NIGHT

    The room is dark, illuminated only by the TV. HARVEY is sprawled on the velvet couch in front of the TV, his robe open, nothing underneath. He is sobbing and masturbating to the image on the screen. A pile of tissues on his lap, another to his right for the tears. The video on the screen is a security video of Harvey masturbating onto a plant.

    HARVEY
    Plastic, fucking plastic. Just like all those sluts. Made up to look perfect, then they call me a creep!?

    His motion grows faster. Tears roll down his cheek. Suddenly there is a noise. He stops masturbating, pauses the video and turns. Tears streaming down his face.

    HARVEY
    Who’s there? Huh, one of those paparazzi fucks?

    There is only silence. He un-pauses the video and resumes. A shadow emerges from the darkness behind him. The Emperor Palpatine-esque features of GEORGE’S face slowly emerge from the shadows. Harvey doesn’t notice him. George speaks in a thick Eastern European accent, pausing for deep breaths.

    GEORGE
    Have you learned your lesson Harvey?

    Harvey TURNS startled, sobbing.

    HARVEY
    George, I wasn’t expecting…Here, have a seat.

    Harvey tries to wipe a cum stain off the cushion next to him.

    GEORGE
    No thank you, I vill stand.

    HARVEY
    George, ya gotta know, I never touched them broads…well some of them. But mostly I just wanted them to wa…

    GEORGE
    Zat is not the issue. You botched ze Vegas job. Hillary vanted Micheal to do it. He vould have gotten zat fuel tank to explode. Zat fucker loves explosions. But, I vas sure you could handle it.

    HARVEY
    I…I…It was under control, then that damn security guard wandered on set. I…

    GEORGE
    Shh…I’m not blaming you. But you understand. Ve needed something to get the media to focus…elsewhere. After ze facts didn’t, what’s the saying? Add up.

    HARVEY
    But come on, I done some good work for you!

    GEORGE
    Stop masturbating damnit! Zis is important.

    Harvey closes his robe in shame and wipes his hand on the couch.

    HARVEY
    Come on. It woulda worked. You just didn’t have enough patience.

    GEORGE (lashing out)
    No. It was sloppy!
    (Composes himself)
    Now I have to double my funding efforts. All it managed to accomplish is some bullshit on bump-stocks. Who the hell even knew vhat a bump-stock was!? No, this vas supposed to be the nail in ze coffin. And you fucked up!

    HARVEY (sobbing)
    Please. You already ruined my career!

    GEORGE
    Hush now, it is ok. Just remember, zis was a light punishment. It can get much vorse.

    Harvey breaks down, an emotional mess. George adjusts his impeccable suit and walks out the door.

    EXT—THE MEADOWS-NIGHT

    George exits the main entrance. George meets KIETH at the limo, Kieth is rubbing his leg with excitement.

    KIETH
    Tingles! Tingles!
    (TO GEORGE)
    So, what should I do with him?

    GEORGE
    Kill him.

    George enters the limo and it drives off. Keith walks to the front entrance, dragging his leg and rubbing it, he pulls out a silenced pistol and enters the building.

    CUT TO

    TED, who has been watching from the bushes, he stealthily approaches the building.

    INT–LUXURY SUITE-THE MEADOWS—NIGHT

    Harvey is still masturbating to the video footage. Sobbing like a child. He is startled by gunfire and explosions in the hall. The door to the suite is blown off its hinges and Ted emerges from the smoke, wearing his cowboy hat and a sleeveless shirt, holding his compound bow, a gun on his hip.

    TED
    Get yer fuckin dick out of your hand and get moving. This is a God Damn rescue!

    Harvey grabs a tissue to wipe the tears away. He realizes it was from the wrong pile.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I love it, but I still can’t tell why Clooney is talking with a Russian accent.

    2. bacon-magic

      Get this man a Wednesday blog stat!

  40. PieInTheSKy

    Rethinking Gender, Sexuality, and Violence

    http://quillette.com/2017/10/25/rethinking-gender-sexuality-violence/

    TW: quillette

    1. Count Potato

      Why TW? Quillette has excellent articles. They just tend to be long.

      “However, the gender gap vanishes altogether when we look at the prevalence over a 12-month period instead of lifetime prevalence: 1.1% of women were victims of rape, while 1.1% of men were “made to penetrate.” We do not know the reason for this discrepancy.”

      It’s because the definition of “rape” they are using is bullshit to deliberately inflate the numbers.

      1. PieInTheSKy

        Well I read that it is one o them nazi websites

  41. Winston

    So with all the populist and nationalists around some libertarians have come around to elitist internationalism.

    I have my doubts that that will work. The notion that a one-world government will be run by libertarians is dubious considering how unlibertarian the political elites all around the world are. Not to mention that said ruling elite will not become self-serving and corrupt is dubious.

    1. leonadasiv

      But they do it in a smart power kinda way. Libertarians pride themselves in thinking rationally about things. So when you get people whose goal is rational, well managed and efficient government, rather than a commitment to basic principles of liberty, it’s not surprising that they start taking for ‘Top Men’.

      1. Winston

        It should be pointed that sort of thinking is what killed classical liberalism. However libertarian have accomplished jack shot before selling out.

        1. Raven Nation

          “However libertarian have accomplished jack shot”

          This is one of the primary accomplishments of many libertarians.

          1. That and infighting/No True Scotsman-ing

          2. Raven Nation

            Yeah, but if you drink enough shots, little else matters

    2. Suthenboy

      Dubious. Yeah, you could use that word.

      I think of the last guys who wanted a one-world government.

      1. George HW Bush and James Baker?

  42. Juvenile Bluster

    The ball is juiced and the strike zone tends to get bigger and smaller based on the situation. But none of that was able to keep the hard-hitting Astros from coming back to win Game 2 of the World Series last night. Hoo-boy! That was a doozy of a game. Now its back home to Minute Maid Park, where the ball will really fly (unless they replace them with, you know, actual baseballs that don’t surprise batters when they leave the field instead of dropping in for lazy pop flies).

    22% of the extra inning home runs hit in World Series history were hit last night.

    1. Chipwooder

      Kenley Jansen made me so very sad.

      1. Evan from Evansville

        *Sideshow Bob-style uproarious laughter*

      2. He was due for a bad outing.

    2. creech

      When I was a kid (back in Abner Doubleday era it seems) the strike zone was from the armpits or letters to the knees. When did it morph into being from the belt to the knees and several inches wider than the plate?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        It should still be from the letters to the knees, but umps are terrible nowadays and pitches are much harder to judge than they were back then. Hence the push for robo-umps calling balls and strikes.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          As awkward that will make the game, at least initially, I’d rather see that than Jose Altuve strike out looking at a ball that passes over his shins. He’s like 5’5″, that ball was exceptionally low.

          1. Private Chipperbot

            They did it in a spring training game and no one noticed a difference. No delay in the calls. I”ll be shocked if it isn’t implemented in the next few years.

          2. Gray Ghost

            They had a golden opportunity to do it when the umps called a labor strike a few years ago. Couldn’t figure out why management didn’t kick them out then.

    3. Gray Ghost

      How many extra-inning WS games were played in as warm of weather as LA last night? Hotter air is less dense, so less drag, and hit balls should go farther, right?

      But I tend to think that MLB may have urged Rawlings to tinker with the balls again.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    Pillagers

    On Tuesday night the Senate, with a tiebreaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence, followed the House in voting to overturn a rule that would have allowed consumers to file class-action lawsuits against banks and other financial institutions, rather than be forced to take their disputes to arbitration. The regulation, created after fraud and malfeasance by those businesses financially ruined thousands of Americans and almost wrecked the world economy, joins a series of Obama-era rules that Congress and Mr. Trump have shredded. Meanwhile, they have taken several actions to benefit the well-off at the expense of average Americans.

    Yeah whatever dude. Take your meds.

    1. RAHeinlein

      I was happy to see this (and other) Obama-era mob-rule regulations taken out.

    2. Viking1865

      There are certain bellwethers, certain lodestars, who serve me as good proxies when I don’t have time to really dig deep into the nitty gritty.

      If the trial lawyers are squealing like a stuck pig, something good happened.

    3. spqr2008

      I would have been okay with the rule, IF it stated that trial lawyers must ensure that the payout to the class is greater than the actual financial damages faced, and their cut is less than 5%. Honestly, the only reason Obama put this rule into place in the first place was to reward a large Democrat donor class (Trial Lawyers).

    4. R C Dean

      The regulation, created after fraud and malfeasance by those businesses financially ruined thousands of Americans and almost wrecked the world economy,

      Notice the question being begged: Did this regulation actually do anything to address the problem?

      joins a series of Obama-era rules that Congress and Mr. Trump have shredded.

      As is well within their authority. Also, note the question being begged: Were these regulations actually a good idea in the first place?

    5. tarran

      My brother, the trial attorney, is pissed.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    This is what we’re up against. The New York Times editorial board has abandoned any pretense of sanity. Words no longer have any meaning.

    Making housing less affordable.

    The Department of Housing and Urban Development delayed by two years a rule that would help poor people in high-cost areas by changing how the value of housing vouchers is calculated.

    That’s what I think of, when the topic of “affordable” housing comes up.

    1. thom

      In my local elections housing costs and affordable housing have become a big issue, and on the left (who dominate politics here) the consensus seems to be that the problem will be solved by some ever-elusive regulatory slight of hand.

  45. PieInTheSKy

    Monsanto Faces Blowback Over Cancer Cover-Up
    A release of internal emails has revealed that U.S. agrochemical giant Monsanto manipulated studies of the company’s herbicide, Roundup. Experts believe the product causes cancer – and the consequences for the company could be dire.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/monsanto-papers-reveal-company-covered-up-cancer-concerns-a-1174233.html

    This whole roundup think is one of those things I just can’t get a clear idea on. Same with the issue of neonicotinoid pesticides and bees. I tried to get the actual data / info and it is very hard everyone has an agenda or so they seem. Reason seemed pretty friendly to both, but I aint convinced, and anyhoo Bailey is a shill, it is known.

    1. RAHeinlein

      There is approaching zero evidence that Roundup/glyphosphate herbicides are carcinogenic from a product consumption, or even water run-off standpoint. There is extremely limited evidence that long-term exposure (e.g. occupational-type) with zero precautions may have some carcinogenic potential.

      A good analogy is diacetyl – widely used as a flavoring for decades and ultimately brought down b/c of occupational safety concerns when HEATED AND INHALED over extended periods.

      1. robc

        Diacetyl is an off flavor in most beers. In some a small amount is okay.

        1. RAHeinlein

          Correct, it can be produced naturally via fermentation. The primary industrial flavor use was as a butter flavor.

          1. robc

            Yes, and beers with too much can taste like a bag of buttered popcorn, and not in a good way.

          2. Cliche Bandit

            THROW YOUR LID AWAY!

      2. PieInTheSKy

        true but for precautionary principle people (not me) you need to prove it is 100% safe and such evidence is difficult to say the least

    2. Gilmore

      “”Experts believe “”

      There’s your bullshit right there.

      Look, everything causes cancer. It all depends on the criteria you use to define risk levels and what you’re comparing it to. (i.e. Is it more or less-dangerous than a million other things we expose ourselves to every day?) I don’t think any binary claims that something ‘does/doesn’t’ “Cause” cancer actually mean anything. The only data point that is relevant is what is its risk level to the average person under average conditions.

      Its also hard to take any European reporting on the subject at face value because the various ag lobbies and leftists in Europe have treated MON like Satan incarnate for decades now.

  46. The Zenome Project

    There was a poll that came out yesterday that showed that the R candidate for governor in Virginia expanded his lead to 8 points after Obama came to visit Virginia (confirming the Hyperion theory). The MSM now has a new strategy to get the Democrat to win, and that is to attack him with “House Republicans” like George Will by accusing him of going too Trumpian to win the state.

    The breakfasters at Bob and Edith’s Diner are too preoccupied with bacon and eggs to notice the Democrat gubernatorial candidate in one of the booths, who supposedly is “fighting for the violent MS-13 killer gangs” involving Central American immigrants. The U.S. president says so, as does the gubernatorial candidate of his party.

    In two weeks, Virginia will have America’s most consequential election since 50 weeks ago. Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam won the Democrat nomination by defeating (by 10 points) a primary rival endorsed by Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Now, Northam benefits from his opponent’s intractable dilemma, that of all Republicans who remember life before 2016 and want to do what they are told cannot be done: Turn the clock back. Democrat Gov. Terry McAuliffe is popular. Virginia is purple trending blue: Democrats have carried it in three consecutive presidential races, have won three of the last four gubernatorial contests and both U.S. senators are Democrats. And Republican candidate Ed Gillespie has a problem residing across the Potomac.

    In 2014, Gillespie — former counselor to President George W. Bush, former Republican National Committee chair, adviser to Mitt Romney’s campaign, lobbyist extraordinaire — came within a whisker of defeating U.S. Sen. Mark Warner. This year, Gillespie barely defeated a full-throated Trumpian in the Republican primary. Gillespie is intelligent, temperate, experienced and happiest when talking about government policies. These attributes are, to his party’s now-Trumpian base, defects of swamp creatures. So, he gingerly tiptoes across Trumpian Republican politics’ treacherous terrain, which involves stoking the anger of people who seem happiest when furious, but without infuriating everyone else.

    He did the former with dishonest MS-13 ads featuring tattooed dark-skinned men (“Kill, rape, control.”) and accusing Northam of refusing to crack down on “sanctuary cities,” of which Virginia has none. Gillespie’s admirers say he is better than he sounds. Others, remembering Mark Twain (who popularized the quip “Wagner’s music is better than it sounds”), say that a candidate is the way he chooses to sound.

    If Gillespie enlists Trump to campaign for him, he will embrace a political style that entails a political substance (e.g., harping on MS-13) suited to it. If he does not, Trump’s supporters will notice and accuse him of having standards, yet another swampish vice — the stigmata of elitism.

    1. Viking1865

      I love the combination of

      “TRUMP IS POLITICAL POISON!!!!!” with “GILLESPIE IS PULLING AHEAD BECAUSE TRUMP!!”

      It cannot be both. It can be one or the other, but not both.

      The upcoming GOP pols are finally learning the basic rule of politics: a weak yes and a resounding yes both count for one vote. For decades the moderate Republicans have pissed off their base because they believed the lying liberal voters who swear up and down they would vote for a “moderate, sensible, Republican”.

      Turn out your base. Get your base excited. The side with the more energized base wins.

      1. Chipwooder

        It’s amusing that Will seems quite annoyed that Gillespie is, horror of horrors, trying to win the election however he can. Just another confirmation of the notion that the GOP establishment’s most fervent desire is to write beautiful concession speeches.

    2. I like George Will and enjoy reading his stuff, but he is absolutely in love with establishment politics.

      Gillespie is winning because the Trump election wasn’t a one-off fluke. People so dislike the Democrat brand and are so afraid of and disgusted by the Progressives that dominate the party establishment that anybody who’s on the fence, or a “purple” voter, is going right back to the Republicans no matter what Trump does or what the particular candidate says.

      1. Viking1865

        The Obama Era reminded middle America what Democrats do when they get power: they jack up taxes, they give your money to their supporters, and they come up with various ways to make your poorer, for your own good.

        My 401k grew 18% over the last calendar year. Anyone who opened their statements up and saw the same thing is saying to themselves “If that’s Trumpism, then I am a Trumpist.”

        1. The Obama Era reminded middle America what Democrats do when they get power…

          QFT.

          So, so much this. I think part of the anti-Trump hysteria (distinguished from the genuine, rational, sane reasons to dislike Trump) stems from Obama supporters who are aghast that after bestowing eight years of enlightened leadership on the little people some of us don’t show the proper appreciation. I think they find the notion that there could be a backlash against Obama and his policies completely abhorrent.

          In some ways, Obama was the greatest gift the Democrats ever gave the Republican party.

    3. Chipwooder

      I see it often written that Terry McAuliffe is popular, but I’m guessing it’s an extremely shallow popularity. I don’t know of anyone, even among the hardcore Dems I know, who is terrible enthused by McAuliffe. Probably more accurate to say he’s not unpopular.

      1. Viking1865

        There’s no smoking in the governor’s mansion, because if you get an open flame within 2 feet of that oily piece of shit he bursts into flame. You could wring him out and fry up 2 pounds of onion rings from the grease that would come out.

        1. Chipwooder

          And oily he most definitely is. I had to be up close around him earlier this year for a bill signing ceremony at work. It’s amazing how obvious it is even in such a brief encounter. Thankfully I’m insignificant enough that I didn’t have to meet him and shake his hand.

          1. Viking1865

            I am fairly confident I am on some kind of master “keep him away from politicians” list. I ran into Gilmore at a grocery store once and asked him whatever happened to getting rid of the goddamn car tax.

          2. ChipsnSalsa

            Did his hair look as awesome IRL as it does in his avatar pic?

          3. Chipwooder

            Hah! Before he was lieutenant governor, Gilmore was a neighbor of a friend of mine. He lived in the West End off Gayton Rd.

      2. Psycho Effer

        A Democrat not hated by other Democrats is apparently how they define success.

      3. R C Dean

        McAuliffe’s true base of support is the Ruling Class. Without that, he would be a nobody. The voters who vote for him do so mostly out of tribal loyalty to the D. As people figure out that the Ruling Class is a toxic sewer of entitlement, arrogance, corruption, and sycophancy, their tribal loyalty is eroded and guys like Terry will be left high and dry.

  47. Rufus the Monocled

    And to think the Dodgers lost even after they chased Verlander off the field!

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Oh and I think Robert this time was guilty of micro-managing. Houston can smash the ball. I’m starting to think it’s better to just let your starters go as deep as they can if they’re in a groove rather than follow what the analytics say.

  48. Some notes of little interest:

    We’re throwing a Halloween party this Friday. Of course my wife invited most of the neighborhood over, most who I don’t know.

    My son’s MRI came back normal, so no obvious physical reason for his seizure, which he’s had no more occurrences.

    Starting the countdown before i go on vacation to Charleston, SC. This will be my fourth time in seven years. I love it there even though we are running out of new things to do.

    1. Badolph Hilter

      That’s awesome news about your son.

    2. Also writing a new adventure/horror/post-apocalyptic book so I can keep my mind occupied.

      And I’m getting the metalwork in today for my latest tube amplifier, a 1625 based unit make a whopping ~15Ws of power.

    3. RAHeinlein

      Happy to hear your son’s MRI was normal.

      Enjoy Charleston – I miss vacations there and now am hungry for Magnolia’s fried chicken…

    4. Chipwooder

      If I were suddenly independently wealthy and could live anywhere, I’d totally move to Charlestown. Wonderful town.

      1. Chipwooder

        Charleston is nice too though.

        1. bacon-magic

          *lights tiki torch for Chipwooder*

          1. Chipwooder

            YOU WILL NOT REPLACE ME!

        1. Chipwooder

          I spent a few years digging into my ancestry. To my eternal shame, I discovered that my South Carolina ancestors were members of a loyalist militia during the Revolution.

          1. When I was in Beaufort, I went through a church’s graveyard (btw, I recommend the Unitarian Church graveyard in Charleston as one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever been).

            I found a grave of a British soldier who had been killed during the Revolutionary War. Someone had put flowers on the grave along with a little Union Jack. Very touching.

            Found a link with a picture

          2. Chipwooder

            That’s a fascinating little story. I didn’t know that there were virtually no marked graves of the fallen British soldiers from that war.

          3. spqr2008

            It’s all good. Some of my ancestors were Jacobites (better than Jacobins, but not by much).

          4. Chipwooder

            Not that my patriot ancestors were that much better. One joined the North Carolina militia as a hatter. He didn’t fight, but he did make a lot of hats for them I guess. Another joined the Continental Army and deserted during the winter in Valley Forge. He returned to the army in 1781, after the fighting but it was apparently still enough to keep him alive and out of prison. His desertion did result in his pension claim being denied in the 1820s, though.

          5. Raven Nation

            A lot of the choosing of sides in Carolina had more to do with long-running local disputes than decisions about revolution vs. loyalty.

          6. peachy rex

            This is pretty typical of civil wars/revolts/revolutions etc.

    5. The Other Kevin

      I’ve been to Charleston a few times. It is beautiful. Try taking a ghost tour of the city, or seeing the CSS Hunley.

    6. egould310

      “I love it there even though we are running out of new things to do.”

      Post up on the patio of your favorite cafe/bar and watch people go by. Enjoy the company of your family. You don’t always have to be “doing something “. Hell, stay in your hotel room in your pajamas for a week watching HGTV and Food Network. It’s vacation. R e l a a a x.

      1. We spend a lot of time on the balcony that overlooks Market Street; drinking beer and – used to – smoke locally made cigarettes. My wife, however, is a bit of a “go getter” and wants to do a walking tour, a carriage tour, and a boat thing. Among shopping, walking, eating out a lot. It’s still relaxing either way.

        1. egould310

          ???

        2. R C Dean

          “Bye, honey. Have fun. Let’s meet for lunch at the cafe.”

          1. Nephilium

            Yep, that’s what me and the girlfriend did in Dublin. I spent my day walking around, getting local culture, seeing distilleries. She wasted hers on guided tours.

        3. pedantic

          Market St is nice, bit crowded. If you’re hanging in that area Mr Humungus, I’d recommend a dinner (with accompanying “oyster shooter”) at Pearlz, followed by drinks at the back patio of the Blind Tiger. Was a concierge at the Vendue, would always send people that way if they wanted something a lil less touristy.

    7. DEG

      Excellent news about your son’s MRI.

      It’s been about ten years since I’ve been to Charleston. It is a good town to visit.

    8. Rufus the Monocled

      Good for your son.

      Sooooo….what offensive costume will you be wearing?

      Birthday suit? Hiya doin’!

      Black face? MAMMY! MAMMY!

  49. The Late P Brooks

    From that same NYT editorial-

    The Occupational Safety and Health Administration proposed changes that would weaken a rule intended to limit workers’ exposure to beryllium, an industrial mineral linked to lung damage and estimated to cause about 100 deaths a year.

    100 deaths? in the US? from beryllium exposure? Outside of aerospace and Formula One, I’m not aware of widespread use of beryllium. Beryllium is nasty shit, and machining it requires extensive precautions, but the guys who can do it properly are too valuable to be allowed to die off indiscriminately.

    1. Viking1865

      What’s really funny is how many of these diktats are less than 5 years old.

      TRUMP IS RETURNING US TO THE NIGHTMARISH DICKENSIAN HELLSCAPE OF 2013. DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THE PILES OF CORPSES IN THE STREETS? THE PYRES FOR THE DEAD?

    2. Chipwooder

      I’m guessing more than a hundred people a year die in America from drowning in bathtubs.

      1. I’m guessing more than a hundred people are killed by raccoons in America every year.

        1. Q Continuum

          Statistically 2 Americans die from being crushed by vending machines each year.

          1. Chipwooder

            I was almost one of those two back in my thieving teen years.

          2. R C Dean

            Are those statistical Americans, or are they statistically dead, or what?

          3. Bobarian LMD

            I don’t think the statistics killed them.

    3. SDF-7

      +1 Galaxy Quest

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        miners, not minors!

        1. Cliche Bandit

          Ya lost me.

  50. The Late P Brooks

    Starting the countdown before i go on vacation to Charleston, SC. This will be my fourth time in seven years. I love it there even though we are running out of new things to do.

    Jump up behind General Lee on that big equestrian statue, and take a selfie.

  51. Q Continuum
    1. ChipsnSalsa

      Aaron Commey, a Libertarian candidate from the Bronx

      we get all the weirdos.

    2. MikeS

      Imma try again…

      Then 22 years old and delusional, he planned to wage a war on “Cabal” — a non-existent secret group that he believed would “take over the world through mass destruction,” he said later, according to the paper.

      Yes, that’s right. We They are non-existent.

      *holds pinky to face. laughs diabolically*

  52. Survey Shows Sexism Is Still Alive in the Auto Industry

    This survey would appear to indicate that the automotive industry is not immune, and personal observational experience from my time in the industry — especially my time in the dealer world — backs that up.

    Obviously I’m not a woman, so I can’t imagine what women go through. But I have working eyes and ears, and I heard comments that were absolutely over the line. I was also later told stories about same.

    I will let you go read the whole thing, but as a former dealership employee, all I can say is that AN is quantifying something many of us in the industry are aware of.

    The story does suggest that some men are clueless when it comes to sexist behavior, and while I don’t doubt that, I suspect many of us in this industry have either experienced or seen harassing behavior, or have heard stories of such. I can’t get into details of what I witnessed and heard about during my time in the dealer world, but it’s safe to say it runs the gamut from off-color jokes to actions that got people fired.

    1. MikeS

      If you’re wondering why I didn’t stick up for others, well, in some cases I heard about an incident well after it happened – and I wasn’t present for the incident. In other cases, I was too young, too junior in title, and too nice to tell a veteran co-worker twice my age that what they were saying was inappropriate.

      This guy has more excuses than Carter has liver pills.

    2. Obviously I’m not a woman, so I can’t imagine what women go through.

      This is a stupid statement, and it or a variation of it gets made every day, it seems. If you were a woman (or whatever other demographic) you wouldn’t need to imagine; the reason you use imagination is to consider situations that don’t reflect your own real experiences. For instance, I don’t need to have been shot to imagine that it’s not something I’d like to happen.

      1. R C Dean

        Didn’t he just confess to being a sociopath who is incapable of empathy?

  53. Raven Nation

    Another one bites the dust, Glasgow Rangers fire manager.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      After the fiasco in the last few minutes of the game yesterday it’s not exactly surprising.

      (they were up 1-0 in the 90th minute and had a penalty kick. They proceeded to miss the penalty kick, get a player shown a straight red, and then proceed to give up a goal to tie the game)

      1. Raven Nation

        Yeah, I followed the blog online and that was bizarre, to say the least.

        Reminded me of this insanity from a few years back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pma5RDt6MRw

  54. See Double You

    http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20171025006152/en/Study-Rx-Drug-Lawsuit-Ads-Spike-Reports

    “Study: Rx Drug Lawsuit Ads Cause Spike in Reports of Patient Health Incidents, Deaths
    U.S. Chamber’s 18th Annual Legal Reform Summit Highlights Research on Improving the Litigation Environments of the U.S., Canada, and EU”

    Believable, but it’s the Chamber of Commerce…

  55. mexican sharpshooter

    Hoo-boy! That was a doozy of a game.

    That was fun. Do it again, Astros.

  56. Q Continuum

    I still don’t understand how Twitter is ever going to make any money.

    https://www.recode.net/2017/10/26/16527682/twitter-earnings-q3-october-2017-jack-dorsey-twtr

    1. Psycho Effer

      They haven’t figured out how to monetize mob stupidity. Whoever does that will own the world.

      1. Yes they have. See: Kickstarter

        1. Like any market, there’s dumb stuff on Kickstarter, but also not-dumb stuff.

          1. MikeS

            Yep. I’ve been a backer on two local breweries. Got some free swag and helped create two new places for me to drink!

      2. Gilmore

        They haven’t figured out how to monetize mob stupidity.

        Uh, duh, yes they have. Its called ‘the lottery’.

        1. leonadasiv

          And look at who runs the lottery…

        2. Psycho Effer

          The Lottery – The biggest tax the government ever levied on the poor, and they pay it happily.

    2. MikeS

      Then 22 years old and delusional, he planned to wage a war on “Cabal” — a non-existent secret group that he believed would “take over the world through mass destruction,” he said later, according to the paper.

      Yes, that’s right. We They are non-existent.

      *holds pinky to face. laughs diabolically*

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Gilmore!
        *Points and laughs at MikeS*

        1. MikeS

          At least I put it under a thread for the correct person. Do I get partial credit?

      2. MikeS

        dammit. Wrong thread

      3. The greatest trick Cabal every played was convincing the world that they exist.

    3. robc

      If I added correctly, Twitter has lost ~$750 million dollars over the last 8 quarters.

  57. See Double You

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/judge-rules-peabody-bankruptcy-blocks-lawsuits-2017-10-25

    “A judge has ruled Peabody Energy Corp. is protected by its recent bankruptcy from global-warming lawsuits brought by California coastal communities against fossil-fuel companies.

    “The lawsuits say Peabody for decades has exported substantial amounts of coal from California and claim the company has been linked to groups that have sought to undermine climate science and the connection between emissions and global warming and rising sea levels. Peabody has said the lawsuits lack merit.

    “Judge Schermer said that the California communities were required to bring claims against Peabody during the bankruptcy but, instead, chose not to participate in the chapter 11. Initiating the lawsuits after Peabody left chapter 11 was intended to give these communities an advantage over other company creditors who went through the bankruptcy process, the judge said.”

    California, man.

    1. Not Adahn

      Local pronunciation of “Peabody” = pibidi

    2. tarran

      Nah. It’s brilliant.

      This is not going to be overturned by any appeal court.

  58. Q Continuum

    If you send your child to college, choose wisely.

    http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/38149/

  59. Chipwooder

    Now this is the way to respond to the harpies.

    The book does sound pretty dumb, though.

    1. Q Continuum

      Streisand. Effect.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      I don’t care if the book sounds dumb (and it probably is), I’m buying it because of that letter.

  60. A Fuggin White Male

    “What struck Saladin Ahmed was that a single brown corn pop was working as a janitor operating a floor waxer. Ahmed, current writer of Marvel Comics’ Black Bolt series and author of 2012 fantasy novel Throne of the Crescent Moon, took to Twitter on Tuesday to ask, “Why is literally the only brown corn pop on the whole cereal box the janitor? this is teaching kids racism.”

    The only way for this to be “racist” is if you believe that we live in some sort of caste system where janitors are at the bottom. Fuck that noise. I have respect for anyone that does a job and earns a paycheck and pays their own way through life without being a burden to others.

    1. Yeah, my first thought was, “What’s wrong with being a janitor?”

    2. R C Dean

      Not having seen the box, is the brown corn pop the only one that has a job? Why is it racist and demeaning to have the only person who is productively employed be a minority?

      1. Akira

        Also, he appears to be the only one wearing clothes. That means that all the other corn pops in this sordid scene are naked. Not only are they in a shameful state of undress in a public place, but they are also behaving like barbarians: swimming in the fountain, playing hockey indoors, forming nude human pyramids, skateboarding down the escalator, and swinging from banners on the ceiling like wild apes.

        The janitor is merely trying to clean up the mess resulting from this highly dishonorable display of hedonism. If you ask me, he’s a credit to his race.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      I wish they picked a different analogy, because if I find a brown corn pop I’m throwing the whole box away.

      On a related note, my favorite person in my office is Phil, the janitor. He got the job through a pathways program for homeless vets, recovering alcoholic and all around nice guy. I feel bad for using the toilets.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        especially after four packages of sugar free gummy bears.

  61. Chipwooder

    Joe Girardi out as Yankees manager. Reportedly a mutual decision.

    1. Chipwooder

      Aaaand that story lasted all of five minutes. Girardi has released a statement making it clear that it was not mutual – he wanted to come back and was told that his contract wasn’t being renewed.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Doesn’t sound mutual to me.

      “With a heavy heart, I come to you because the Yankees have decided not to bring me back.”—statement from Joe Girardi #Yankees
      — Sweeny Murti (@YankeesWFAN) October 26, 2017

      1. Chipwooder

        Yeah, like I said, the first report I read said it was “apparently mutual” but obviously that’s not the case.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          WTF are the Yankees thinking?

          Calling on the Phillies front office to pivot immediately and throw as much money as he wants to move a little bit south.

          1. Chipwooder

            Joe sounded pretty burned out at the end of the season, even before the playoffs. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him step away for a year.

            As far as the reasoning…..honestly, I’m not sure. He’s not the best manager but they could do much worse, and no one expected them to do as well as they did.

          2. Juvenile Bluster

            But then why release the statement that he wanted to stay but the Yankees pushed him out?

          3. Idle Hands

            He’s going to the Expos South.

    3. MikeS

      So he brings a team that wasn’t even supposed to make the playoffs to within one win of the WS and they fire him? It’s shit like this that make the Yankee haters feel justified.

      1. WTF

        He won only 1 WS in ten years. For the Yankees, that’s considered failure.

  62. KibbledKristen

    *Hillary, sighing in exasperation*

    “Get the assassin on the phone. We got another one.”

  63. Gilmore

    What struck Saladin Ahmed was that a single brown corn pop was working as a janitor operating a floor waxer. Ahmed, current writer of Marvel Comics’ Black Bolt series and author of 2012 fantasy novel Throne of the Crescent Moon, took to Twitter on Tuesday to ask, “Why is literally the only brown corn pop on the whole cereal box the janitor? this is teaching kids racism.”

    my first reaction to this was the normal one; that the offense-taking is absurd.

    my second reaction was, “wait…there’s another brown corn there… and its….. selling drugs?? WTF”

  64. KibbledKristen

    British kid who had a copy of the Anarchist Cookbook found not guilty. Don’t ask me “of what?” – it’s the fuckin’ United Kingdom.

    https://twitter.com/rj_gallagher/status/923505997519491073

    1. PieInTheSKy

      That is the most profoundly retarded thing I read all day. Bravo

    2. Raven Nation

      Here’s what the BBC reported: “a charge of possession of a record of terrorist information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terror.”

      1. KibbledKristen

        Yes…in other words, complete nonsense.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        So, thoughtcrime?

      3. totally_not_an_escaped_ai

        ** quickly hides my copy of the book I bought second-hand from a kid in my class when I was a freshman in HS. Fondly remembers how bad-ass I was for having it then **

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      There’s always been an incestuous relationship between biglaw (really the top 10 or so firms) and government. Either party.

  65. Private Chipperbot

    Mark Halperon likes rubbing his erection on things.

    Three of the women accused him of “pressing an erection against their bodies while he was clothed.”
    CNN senior correspondent Clarissa Ward said on Thursday that Mark Halperin’s alleged sexual harassment was an “open secret” at ABC News “for years.”

    So, I’m conflicted. Doing that stuff is scummy. I think it’s also scummy that all these people knew, but they they either laughed it off at the time, or are complete scumbags themselves because they did nothing about it.

      1. Gilmore

        a little more uptempo

    1. Gilmore

      If there’s any musical experience i wish i could have been present @ firsthand, i think it probably would have been that Stax tour of Europe in… 19667?

      I think almost all the B+W footage you see of them in those days is from that tour.

      1. I never saw James Brown in his heyday. That would’ve been a good show.

  66. Raston Bot

    As manufacturing technology gets better and more affordable, the “gun question” becomes: Would a law be able to stop a physical device from being made from a relatively simple process?

    At the moment, none of these issues are very significant and perhaps they won’t be for a long time. Perhaps when that time comes we can teach our manufacturing machines to not make weapons.

    http://electronics360.globalspec.com/article/10086/gun-control-in-a-maker-world

    the first comment was pretty much a kick in the writer’s gunt:

    It is said, of attempts to scrub information from the Internet, “The network treats censorship as damage and routes around it.”

    The same will surely soon be said of gun control. “Makers treat our machines refusing to do our bidding as damage and repair them.” It’s already visible in the Digital Restrictions Management sphere. Every time someone wants to consume legally obtained content in a manner the producer of that content doesn’t want it consumed, DRM is broken faster and faster. Denuvo is a DRM system used on PC games. It used to take years for a newly released Denuvo interfered with game to have its Denuvo shell cracked. Then months. Last month, it took mere weeks. Last week, Denuvo interfered with games were being cracked on the same day they were being released. Denuvo is now deadtech.

    The idea that CNC machines and 3D printers will refuse to run the programs put into them because of the mechanical meaning of the parts those programs create is foolish in the extreme and utterly a-historical in basis.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      you can’t stop the signal. except for north korea that is

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Appropos?

        Slow start, but I really like this one.

    2. MikeS

      There would need to be a massive shift in the way CNC machines are programmed for this to even begin to be feasible. As it is now (and has been since the first CNC) all the machine “knows” it is doing is moving in a certain direction for a certain distance. CNC programming has changed very little over the years for a reason; it is relatively simple to do with a relatively small amount of training. Anyone who thinks/hopes this could happen has no knowledge of how CNC machines are programmed.

    3. How would the CNC machine know it’s making gun parts? Illegal gun parts? For a functional firearm used for firing actual rounds? As I’ve seen it phrased in several venues, it is entirely legal to buy an aluminum paperweight in the shape of an AR-15 lower. That is not a gun. To a machine, milling out an area roughly the size of a door latch carries no meaning or indication of intent.

      1. How would the CNC machine know it’s making gun parts? Illegal gun parts?

        By virtue of majick of course

      2. Psycho Effer

        They would need to centrally manage the software and require that the device get all it’s schematics from the central office in order to print them. This would be hacked around by advanced users, but would probably restrict the average joe from doing things the makers of the CNC device don’t approve of. I’m sure the government is going to try to get CNC makers to put back-doors into their software so they can monitor their use for ungoodfulness, same as they are trying to do for encryption.

        1. A CNC machine that could only use pre-written milling programs would be pretty damned useless. It would basically just be an Easy-Bake Oven. I can’t imagine there’d be a market for that.

          1. Psycho Effer

            If an Easy-Bake Oven were useless it wouldn’t exist. The time will come when a CNC mill of some sort will be as common as a microwave oven. Just like a microwave, you generally use them to prepare something that is pre-made. Using pre-made designs in a CNC seems similar to me. For a CNC, I think the model that you will see will be similar to iTunes. A closed playground with a lot of options to choose from, but with the owner of the playground putting limitations on what goes in there.

          2. MikeS

            Do you have any experience with manufacturing or CNC machines? Because reality looks almost nothing like you are describing.

            The average home likely will resemble what you are describing (with 3D printers though, not CNC mills) but the thousands of manufacturing shops and machining hobbyists around the country are not and will not be sharing pre-made designs and just producing the same thing day after day.

          3. That’s what I was thinking; it would be like selling a saw that only cuts pre-approved lengths. If it was dirt cheap it might be worthwhile, but the kind of people who buy these machines aren’t buying them because they want to make the same novelty coasters over and over again. Like you say, maybe there’s going to be a time when you buy a program for plastic shower curtain hooks and fire up the ol’ 3D printer instead of ordering them from Amazon or whatever, but that’s a different kettle of fish.

          4. Grummun

            The mill only runs programs that are signed with an SSL cert that is downstream from one of a handful of “approved CNC program vendor” keys baked into the mill’s firmware. Big shops can absorb the cost of “getting safe-CNC certified” and buying a cert, little shops get run out of business after their non-cert-locked mills age out or are banned outright. Think of the opportunity for rent-seeking and non-value-adding jobs in the layers of bureaucracy such a scheme would require. With only a modest loss of efficiency!

    4. Zunalter

      gunt is a sorely underutilized word in the vernacular.

      1. Raston Bot

        yes, well, i’m here to raise the bar.

      2. leonadasiv

        I’m not familiar with it.

        1. Grummun

          Ignorance, in this case, truly is bliss.

    5. ruodberht

      What’s Digital Restrictions Management? Anything like Digital Rights Management?

      :googles:

      Ah, Stallman Newspeak. That explains the retardation.

  67. The Late P Brooks

    The idea that CNC machines and 3D printers will refuse to run the programs put into them because of the mechanical meaning of the parts those programs create is foolish in the extreme and utterly a-historical in basis.

    Good grief. A computer program running a machine tool is not exactly prone to making moral arguments.

    1. tarran

      Here’s what’s happening:
      A large number of thought leaders in CNC community have been trying to figure out how to prevent their machines from being misused to make guns. They have been mooting about various ideas, such as designing the machines to only accept programs from legitimate sources.

      And it’s an utterly futile idea.

      1. Frankly, the reason I would own a CNC would be to mill out lowers. The idea that I would spend thousands of dollars on a machine that would then prevent me from using it for purposes contrary to the arbitrary moral compunctions of the person who took my money is absolutely ridiculous.

      2. Akira

        They have been mooting about various ideas, such as designing the machines to only accept programs from legitimate sources.

        Go for it! I’ll laugh when their market share gets summarily yanked out from under them by 3D printer manufacturers who offer machines that print whatever designs you put in.

      3. Raston Bot

        “thought leaders” bringing us yesterday’s prohibitions today!

  68. Zunalter

    Rosie O’Donnell is really starting to look like Michael Moore with longer hair.

    1. bacon-magic

      Starting? I thought they were twins in appearance and ideology.

  69. The Late P Brooks

    such as designing the machines to only accept programs from legitimate sources.

    Yes, of course. That’ll work.

    1. bacon-magic

      +3 laws of robotics