Monday Afternoon Links

Happy Monday, Glibs. My oldest son must be getting the jerk gene coming in. How else to explain that he got sent home from school for ‘having a fever’, when he doesn’t have one? Oh, and because of stupid daycare rules, that means he gets to stay home again tomorrow, too. Because I got nothing better to do. Fuck it. Send his whole class over here. I’ll invite OMWC as a chaperone and we’ll have a grand old day. Fuck!

On the other hand, at least I didn’t kill someone attempting suicide. Suicider was 12. Happy Monday.

Saudi Arabia, going nuclear because the Iranians are for energy independence.

Why hot pool guys are only a fantasy trope, by science!

Huh. I would have sworn this was a NCIS plotline. Given that they’ve made a billion episodes, I’m probably not wrong.

I don’t know why this tickles me so much. Its weird that this guy is the ur-sound of both flavors of pop that followed him.

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710 responses to “Monday Afternoon Links”

  1. DOOMco

    Huh. I would have sworn this was a NCIS plotline.

    It’s like half of those episodes.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Boys will be boys

    2. Psycho Effer

      Nope, it was JAG.

    3. In related news, Mark Harmon is running for trustee in my neck of the woods. I wish it were that Mark Harmon, or at least Summer School Mark Harmon.

  2. AlexinCT

    Love the system brah..

  3. bacon-magic

    I don’t know why this tickles me so much. Its weird that this guy is the ur-sound of both flavors of pop that followed him.

    Playa’s favorite song.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Huh? I don’t get it.

      1. bacon-magic

        Suuuuurrrre you didn’t.

        1. Left Hand of Radar

          Great song. Be nice if you could hear the guitar over the drums.

  4. Count Potato

    Sorry about a post I made towards the end of last night’s Sunday Evening Links. Could the staff please remove it. It would be much appreciated. Thanks.

    1. Mad Scientist

      I see a Striesand Effect in your future!

      1. MikeS

        *every Glib who didn’t see Agile Potato’s Sunday post rush to read it*

        1. R C Dean

          Agile Potato

          I literally LOLed.

          Sorry to hear about you pain and struggles to manage it, Count.

          1. MikeS

            Yeah, my comment may have been a little extra glib. Sorry about the cheap shot, Count. I’m hoping everything gets better.

          2. Count Potato

            Thanks.

    2. Sean

      At least you didn’t post about wanting to bang dead chicks.

      1. peachy rex

        I’m guessing *that* post is never getting deleted – hell, if they ever get tired of the family-friendly rating, it might end up on the masthead.

    3. R C Dean

      *Heads to last night’s links, searches for “Potato”*

      Huh. Not that bad, I mean, by our standards. Kind of an AC vibe to it, in places.

      1. You are the last one to see that…I zorched it.

        Sometimes we do take requests.

    4. Done! No worries.

      1. Count Potato

        Thank you.

        1. bacon-magic

          I didn’t read it but you are among friends. Can’t be any worse than a SugarFree story.

    5. Spartan Dad

      Count, for what it’s worth, I sympathized with your post. Migraines suck and not getting pain meds for them sucks even more. Don’t worry about it man.

      1. cyto

        My wife has suffered from massive cluster migraines ever since she got pregnant with our first. It is completely debilitating, not just physically, but mentally and emotionally as well. Weeks at a time with pain, auras, extreme sensitivity to sensory stimuli…. it is really hard to remain functional.

        I’ll be praying for you. That can be some seriously rough stuff – and few people really understand, tending to file it under the heading of “had a headache”.

  5. MikeS

    The irony of that 12 year old suicider was that the girl he killed was passionate about working with kids with severe psychological issues.

    1. Raston Bot

      her own mom said it was ironic.

      still not sure how the kid jumped through the Ford Escape and killed her. sunroof maybe?

      1. MikeS

        And yet the kid lived. It’s got to be one of the most freak deaths ever. Maybe she just got very unlucky and something severed an artery or something?

        1. kinnath

          The kid suffered life-threatening injuries.

          I’m guessing he went through the windshield, but not head first.

        2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          So, in the end, she was able to help the kid.

      2. Hyperion

        Windshield?

        1. ArchieBunker

          An overpass seems a bad place to do that. Good chance you could limp away from it. Not to mention putting others at risk. If that kid owned a gun that girl might still be alive

  6. Not a good day today. I have not fully eradicated the mice (walked in on one to find one running around the living room like he lived here), the stuff I ordered fell out of the envelope in mail (but the mailman pushed the empty envelope in the box anyway… luckily I chased him down and found what I paid for), and I’m pretty sure the consultant at work is trying to bluff about having more knowledge and experience than he has. Normally that’s less of a problem, but the gap is that part we actually hired him for…

    1. bacon-magic

      luckily I chased him down and found what I paid for

      Your copy of 50 shades of grey?

      1. why would I read chick porn? There’s real porn readily available on the internet.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Fun fact: 50 Shades of Gray started off as bad Twilight fanfic, and somehow got optioned into a major series of books and 3 movies.

          Meanwhile, SugarFree can’t get his Hat and Hair stories optioned for anything. Shame.

          1. robc

            It is a fun fact, but isnt it well known too?

          2. commodious spittoon

            tbh I’d forgotten about it, and now I can chuckle over it once again.

          3. Psycho Effer

            CGI is still not good enough to make Hat and Hair a reality.

          4. Gadfly

            I would think a proper Hat/Hair film would use practical effects, not CGI. I’m picturing hand-puppets in the vein of Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. I think that would be most in keeping with the style of the stories.

    2. bacon-magic

      luckily I chased him down and found what I paid for

      What could UCS have gotten that he doesn’t want to share with the Glibberati?

      1. Since you’re going to joke about it anyway – I was stocking up on hand cream for winter – I don’t like cracking and bleeding, but the environment in my office is set up to cause it.

        Make your crass remarks at my expense now.

        1. I’ll make the non-crass remark:

          I assume that hand cream is unscented.

          1. bacon-magic

            It’s not milk Ted, you can’t drink it.

          2. pan fried wylie

            To be fair, hand cremes only come in unscented, Old Lady and Old Man.

        2. bacon-magic

          Crass?
          I’m hurt. I would ask you for some hand cream to soothe the burn but we all know you didn’t just use it on your hands.
          #churning butter is good old fashioned alone time

          1. Q Continuum

            I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Crisco or GTFO.

          2. jesse.in.mb

            Are we talking about churning butter?

          3. bacon-magic

            Lol boy butter

          1. bacon-magic

            Oh Ben! /hand j-lo

          2. bacon-magic

            hand j-lo

            Probably just inadvertently guessed the name of the hand creme.

        3. …you did ask for it.

          1. MikeS

            literally.

        4. Lachowsky

          You’re an office worker right? Why the hell do you need hand creme to keep your hands from cracking. Only hands I know of that crack are ones that people work with and ones that get washed and disinfected way too often. Are you one of those germophobes who used hand sanitizer 15 times a day?

          1. The insanely wrong humidity levels – and the cheapest bidder soap in the bathrooms.

          2. AlmightyJB

            Yeah, the soap at our office makes your knuckles bleed. It’s ridiculous.

          3. Brasidas

            Ah, I see you are familiar with John Wayne brand bathroom products.

            Rough, tough, and don’t take no shit from nobody.

          4. bacon-magic

            Don’t be crass. Office workers get dry hands too. Besides he was probably digging a pit this weekend for his guest.
            “It rubs the lotion on it’s skin or get the hose again” – ucs
            “Uh…pretty sure that’s from Silence of the Lambs.” – “guest”
            “Daddy’s home!” – ucs
            “That’s from the shining…” – guest
            “Just put the lotion on dammit.” – ucs
            “I said $100 for non-freaky stuff, but this will be way extra weirdo.” – guest/hooker

          5. Q Continuum

            *slowly realizes with a look of abject horror that the “lotion” is actually rendered human fat* -guest/hooker

          6. bacon-magic

            “I shoulda known he was freaky Jason when he asked for unsalted fries!” – guest/hooker

          7. Akira

            I go jogging in the winter, which causes my hands to crack and bleed if I don’t lube them up constantly throughout the day (yes, I wear gloves when jogging – sometimes two pairs – but that’s still not enough).

          8. Festus

            Steelworkers, lumberjacks, heavy-duty mechanics and janitors have an excuse for this. You don’t add up so you will fall from the nightmare ladder, Mr. Soft-hands.

    3. R C Dean

      I’m pretty sure the consultant at work is trying to bluff about having more knowledge and experience than he has

      I’m pretty sure you are right, because consultant.

      1. Brett L

        Yes. Good consultants are able to come through on the bluff with something good enough 80% of the time. The other 20% of the time we just flail around, burning money and hating life.

    4. Suthenboy

      Goddamned mice.

      I had them eradicated here and then it got cold. Last night late I was sitting in the garage smoking and…zip!…one ran right in front of me. Here we go again.

      1. Someone bought the building next door and they’re refurbing it – probably caused some of the vermin to relocate.

      2. MikeS

        The secondhand smoke will kill them.

    5. I don’t know if the mice are in the ceiling or in the vents.

      In the vents is worse, because if I poison them there, the furnace will spead the smell through the whole house.

      1. Feel your pain. Going through this again myself. I recently went on a spree and bought a couple dozen of these.

        This stuff is the balls and more effective than peanut butter.

        Set up a lot around the perimeter of the exterior and interior of your home.

        Interlopers must die.

        1. Festus

          Ha! Where i work they always ask where all of the goddamn dead flies are coming from. I don’t have the heart to tell them that it’s because they poison the mice and dying rodents are hard to find. Fucked if I’m moving lockers and breaking through walls. I’ll just continue to sweep up the flies on a day-to-day basis.

  7. bacon-magic

    Happy Monday, Glibs. My oldest son must be getting the jerk gene coming in. How else to explain that he got sent home from school for ‘having a fever’, when he doesn’t have one? Oh, and because of stupid daycare rules, that means he gets to stay home again tomorrow, too. Because I got nothing better to do. Fuck it. Send his whole class over here. I’ll invite OMWC as a chaperone and we’ll have a grand old day. Fuck!

    You ended that whole paragraph exactly right. Education will be given.

  8. Chipwooder

    Oh man, without the hot pool guy, the plot of Extract totally falls apart!

    1. Just Say’n

      Such a bad movie that not even Mila Kunis could save it. Burn in hell Jason Bateman

      1. commodious spittoon

        Considering his C-list career trajectory and the ongoing deterioration of his once-grand contribution to humanity, I think Jason Batemen is living in hell already.

        1. PBRstreetgang

          I dunno. The first season of Ozark was solid. Derivative, but solid.

          1. Chipwooder

            And The Gift was much better than I was expecting.

          2. commodious spittoon

            Damn, he is getting around. The last time I saw him outside rewatching AD was as a bit character in a godawful movie with Kevin Hart and Dwayne Johnson. DRECK. I shut it off early, I was so disgusted with it and myself.

            Before that was in one of the Bosses movies, and that, too, was awful.

          3. Chipwooder

            I thought the first Horrible Bosses was funny. The second one was horrible, though, clearly nothing more than a lazy cash grab.

          4. Chafed

            He was in Dodgeball so he’s got that going for him.

          5. Trigger Hippie

            *sigh*

            Damn youz.

        2. Trigger Hippie

          I thought The Gift was a solid suspense thriller/mind fuck. Give it a whirl one day.

  9. DOOMco

    to the suicide manslaughter article. That is the strangest event I think I’ve ever read. before clicking, I thought it was going to be a cop story. I’m not happier at what it really was.

    1. Chipwooder

      Same here – I read “kill someone attempting suicide” as the cops killing someone who was attempting suicide.

      This is even worse. That poor girl.

      1. DOOMco

        whats strange is how she was hurt or killed on impact, but the boyfriend was fine.
        I can’t think of how the A pillar would fail like that? I’m just confused.

        1. MikeS

          So, I’ve been thinking about this. Maybe my idea is full of holes. And this all depends on if she was traveling at highway speed. I thought I read she was.

          So let’s say jumper was nearly horizontal, with feet facing towards the car at impact. He comes flying thru the windshield (I know, he isn’t “flying” the car is hurtling towards him, but same effect). His feet/legs hit her square in the head and break her neck.

          1. DOOMco

            that seems more plausible. If they were perpendicular to the road, i doubt they would have gone through the windshield with that force. I know moose can go through the windshield and into the cab pretty easy, but this just seems like one in a billion.

          2. MikeS

            …this just seems like one in a billion.

            That’s for damn sure

          3. Gadfly

            Depending on the timing, I could see this happening with the jumper falling perpendicular to the road. If the feet hit the hood of the car, the body starts to crumple and could be folded up by the time the windshield hits it, sending a large, concentrated mass straight into the driver, at head level if the driver was short. That, to me, would explain the driver being the fatality while the jumper survives and the passenger is unscathed.

    2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      FTA, “Police identified the driver as 22-year-old Marisa Harris of Olney, Md. Harris was a graduate student at Marymount University who wanted to help kids combating depression.”

      At least she died doing what she loved.

  10. Juvenile Bluster

    Via that other site, Oberlin really is going to start paying students to protest

    Responsibilities

    Be trained to facilitate Power, Privilege, and Oppression Training, Beyond the Binary Training, and Microaggressions Trainings
    Host several training sessions
    Recruit for and manage the student trainer database
    Serve as a campus leader and consultant on social justice curriculum and education
    Document and organize various resources on anti-oppression work

    But they pay is only $8.15/hour. Not even a living wage! Wonder if they’ll pay students to protest against that part. They probably will.

    1. FIGHT FOR $15!!!!!

    2. commodious spittoon

      People pay somewhere in the mid-five figures for this opportunity ;D ;D ;D Christ, what a scam.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        $70k a year, including room and board.

  11. Q Continuum

    #hertwo

    https://archive.is/bzeUE

    (HT to Brooks for the hashtag)

    1. A few of them look more like plastic than the average sexbot.

      1. Q Continuum

        More for me!

        1. I wasn’t saying I was turning them all down, just pointing out that the number of plastic looking people was abnormally high in this batch.

          1. Q Continuum

            There is definitely some funny business with #12’s nipples…

    2. Tundra

      38 is cute.

      1. Q Continuum

        I dig.

    3. Q Continuum

      15, 21, 37 and 38

      1. Trigger Hippie

        ^ #15

        With the fury of an angry god.

    4. AlmightyJB

      Would like a foursome with 16 and 28. I would totally do all of those chicks.

      1. How many of you are there?

        1. AlmightyJB

          16 had 2 girls:)

          1. Q Continuum

            Maybe you’d need two dicks to satisfy all of them at once?

          2. AlmightyJB

            I’m sure I would figure out something:)

          3. Gadfly

            The man has two hands, doesn’t he? That leaves three appendages to satisfy three ladies. The math checks out.

          4. Q Continuum

            Don’t forget the tongue. JB, you can pick one more but that’s your limit!

          5. AlmightyJB

            I can let one girl at a time take breaks.

    5. Not an Economist

      I like what 5 had in her pants.

      1. Not an Economist

        Seriously look below. Ignore the tattoo and see what she has in her shorts. You will be pleased.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          Nope nope nope nope nope

          1. Not an Economist

            Attractive woman wearing very little with a gun and no one notices.

    6. Rasilio

      I’ll take a #6, a #7 and can’t decide between a #9 or a #28

      Guess I’ll take both, that way I have lunch for tomorrow

  12. The Late P Brooks

    Innuendo is fun

    The first thing to acknowledge is that the indictment of Paul Manafort doesn’t prove collusion by President Trump with Russia to undermine American democracy. But the second thing to say is: It may get us closer.

    Kristof is almost as unhinged as Blow, but I couldn’t resist having a peek.

    All that stuff about Hillary is just baseless speculation, but that Russian Collusion is a slam dunk.

  13. DOOMco

    Got a call back to finalize everything. I took a university job in VT. I’m moving back home while trying to sublet this place, then figure it out from there.

    1. Q Continuum

      Congrats! What you gonna be doing there?

      1. DOOMco

        back to locksmithing. I’m hoping to continue to teach myself more programming stuff, but we will see.

        1. Q Continuum

          You gonna try to come back to the Centennial State? We need more libertarians not fewer!

          1. DOOMco

            I hope to. I lock the tech stuff down, back to Boulder for me.
            well, not boulder.

          2. Q Continuum

            When you get to that point, have the admins give you my email and I’ll try to hook you up.

          3. DOOMco

            noted! and since I’ll be paying rent here for a while, I’m looking to fly back this winter for a long weekend or two. I already bought the fricken pass to eldo.

    2. Vhyrus

      Say hi to grandpa Bernie for us.

      1. DOOMco

        if his house gets TP’d you guys don’t know me.

        1. Vhyrus

          Steal his car and leave a sign that says “Wealth Redistribution! #SocialismFTW”.

          1. Q Continuum

            No Vhyrus, you don’t understand the difference between personal property and private property.

            /faculty lounge denizen

          2. Drake

            Just move into his house. Nobody needs 3.

    3. Brett L

      Great! Right?

      1. DOOMco

        mixed bag. mostly good, and my current situation here is not great. Got cut to part time work, so lost insurance. Teaching myself programming is good, but money is gone at this point. So in that way, this is much better. I prefer CO to VT, and was hoping to not be a locksmith. but uni work is where the money is unless you’re your own boss with a good business.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Plus the women, right?

          1. Q Continuum

            He holds the key to their virgin gates.

          2. DOOMco

            ok, that one was good.

    4. Drake

      Going to Middlebury to get beat up by progs?

    5. Tundra

      Congrats, Doom!

      1. DOOMco

        Thanks! Dad’s flying out next week to help me tow the 40 home.
        should be a decent adventure. I have to tell my roommates tonight. Not sure how I’m gonna do that.

        1. Brett L

          “Guys… I’m moving… To South Carolina”

        2. Tundra

          Try this:

          “Bye!”

    6. Count Potato

      Congratulations.

      1. DOOMco

        Thanks! I hope you’re feeling better today, man. really, I can’t imagine.

        1. Count Potato

          I’ve had a headache for the last few days. That many days in a row is odd for me. So my head still hurts now, but it’s nothing like last night!

          1. Tulip

            Migraines suck. So sorry

    7. bacon-magic

      Congrats, glad you got that locked up.

      1. MikeS

        I’d say he unlocked a door to a great opportunity.

        1. Hey…both of ya!

          *narrows gaze*

          1. Raston Bot

            don’t be a knob

          2. Tundra

            Quit picking on Swiss.

          3. Q Continuum

            Let’s just say he bolted to a new future.

          4. Raston Bot

            he’s really latched onto that gaze.

          5. MikeS

            *keys Raston Bots car*

          6. Akira

            It’s pathetic how you guys’ humor is completely hinged on corny puns.

      2. Tundra

        Glad to see you’re so keyed up for the news.

        1. bacon-magic

          He tumbled out of bed and turned the key to a new era.

          1. MikeS

            I’m glad he found a job to latch onto

          2. Playa Manhattan

            As long as it’s not a revolving door opportunity

      3. Raston Bot

        maybe you’ll tumble into something better.

      4. DOOMco

        *sigh*
        you guuyyss

    8. Rufus the Monocled

      Where in VT?

      Are you gonna walk up and down Church st.? Admit it. You’re among internet friends.

      1. DOOMco

        I’ll be living near Middlebury. I usually end up running up and down church st fairly drunk. That was a few years ago though, maybe I’ve slowed down.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          I probably stumbled and bumped into you near Leunig’s.

    9. Spartan Dad

      Congrats!

  14. Vhyrus

    This Russia thing is hilarious. They managed to find links with a few people but either Trump is a master genius at hiding his own tracks or they really have nothing on him cause it appears to stop at his campaign managers. It looks like a setup all the way down but they’re treating it like Trump and Putin are Sith Lord & apprentice.

    1. Q Continuum

      Does that make Hillary Jar-Jar?

      1. bacon-magic

        Jabba the Hut

        1. Q Continuum

          More like the rat thing that sucks Jabba’s cock.

          1. peachy rex

            Salacious Crumb? [checks wookiepedia] Salacious Crumb. [hates self silently for knowing these things]

      2. *opera applause*

    2. The Other Kevin

      One of my Prog friends on FB is all happy. I just unfollowed him. I might follow him again once the circle gets wider and Hillary gets caught up in it.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      Yeah a former coworker on Facebook was eating that up as if it meant anything other than tax evasion. On a unrelated note, it appears she has been literally eating everything else up while she was at it.

      1. Hyperion

        They’re slobbering all over each other on WaPo and DU over this. Never seen them so worked up into a tizzy. They truly believe this is the end for Trump.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        The best revenge is someone else getting fat.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Ten years ago she was attractive within an extremely narrow set of parameters.

          Also, she’s living proof that Evangelicals fit better on the left than on the right and thus would fit in the “will never put out” category.

    4. Hyperion

      So anyone know much about Podesta? Why did he resign? Is there something there?

  15. Q Continuum

    Re: The suicide link.

    Alainis Morrisette to the courtesy phone for a true example of irony.

      1. kinnath

        I didn’t need to see that.

        1. Q Continuum

          Me neither. Back to the FLBP girls for some eye bleach.

          1. Q Continuum

            Gracias.

        2. Ironically, this appeared in Life magazine.

          1. kinnath

            I am familiar with that one.

          2. Q Continuum

            Perhaps I’m the weird one for not understanding why someone’s first instinct upon discovering a suicide would be to take a picture of it?

          3. kinnath

            Journalism (old school)

          4. Photography student.

            The cameraman who filmed Budd Dwyer as well as the newspaper cameramen I think all said something similar that they just kept going on instinct, snapping photos.

          5. kinnath

            Journalism has never really been that great about representing the truth. But the guys (and gals) that run the cameras seem to have a certain integrity and usually maintain a high degree of professionalism when the worst possible shit is happening around them.

    1. ArchieBunker

      You mean rain on your wedding day isn’t Irony? —scratches head–

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Wonder if they’ll pay students to protest against that part. They probably will.

    Fuck that. They’ll subcontract it to homeless bums for ten bucks and a pack of smokes a day.

    1. so, twenty bucks a day?

      1. Q Continuum

        Out in MT it’s a total anarchy of lung cancer with children dying in the streets from second hand smoke. Cigs are only 5 bucks a pack.

        1. Trigger Hippie

          *pulls a drag from a Camel Turkish Royal*

          $4.68 after tax.

          Now if only some well intentioned citizen would come along and jack the price up to safeguard my health…because I totally wouldn’t use over 20 years of black market connections to get whatever I want anyway.

          Off the top of my head, isn’t around 40% of all cigarettes sold in NYC now being done so under the table?

          1. Mad Scientist

            People who are doing something perfectly legal are now criminals? The system works!

          2. Trigger Hippie

            Jimmy Conway lives again! And he’s renting U-Hauls, hiring drivers, and sending them to large cigarette/smoke outlets in flyover country to fill those trucks with $30 cartons that will be sold at $50 on the East Coast. You can fill a large U-Haul with A LOT of tobacco.

  17. Juvenile Bluster

    So I’ve long since stopped watching modern “police procedurals”, but still love the old time-y radio ones, like Dragnet and a few others.

    In several episodes of Dragnet and other police radio shows from the 50s, they’re either working in IA or Fraud, and a complaint comes up against a police officer. Every time, either the police officer is actually innocent, or it’s someone pretending to be an officer.

    In another episode, Joe Friday and his partner were arresting someone who’d killed a police officer. Based on the radio description, it was just the two of them and the guy they were arresting in the room. They’d patted him down and taken his weapon, but as they were handcuffing him, “he’s got another gun!” and shot the guy dead.

    Leads me to thinking: I know police have always been assholes. But how much of this kind of stuff went on in the days before video recording? Could it have been even worse back in the day?

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      It was worse. My great uncle was a Detroit cop in the 30’s and 40’s. Some of the stories my dad tells about him are well telling. Also see Serpico, Frank from the 70’s. We just seeing it more because of technology but because of the recordings these incidents are decreasing even though it doesn’t seem like it.

      1. Chipwooder

        “Maybe that shit flies in the Bronx, Serpico, but down here eight grand a month is chicken feed!”

    2. Chipwooder

      I remember a later (relatively speaking – it was one of the color episodes from the late ’60s) Dragnet where the entire episode is an interrogation of a cop suspected of knocking over a liquor store. Spoiler: he didn’t do it, and turned out to be a hero (aren’t they all?).

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Never forget the Blue Boy

        1. Chipwooder

          Funniest non-comedy television episode of all time.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            I’m on the Train

    3. Suthenboy

      It was worse back in the day

    4. Playa Manhattan

      Talk to someone who retired before 1995 or so.

      You won’t believe the stories.

      1. Akira

        Prison officers are the same way.

        They’re the most reminiscing-prone group of people I’ve ever met. I swear they’d almost get teary-eyed talking about “the good old days” and “back in the day”, both of which seem to refer to a period before there was any oversight on their use of force. I heard a female officer say one time, “I wish I could do old school corrections like on Cool Hand Luke, when you could just beat a motherfucker down and nobody would say shit!”

        I’d be lying if I said there weren’t a lot of good people there as well, but law enforcement of any kind is going to attract a huge amount of sociopaths who are at least smart enough to find a legally sanctioned outlet for their urges.

      2. cyto

        Or just watch any film or cartoon from the 50’s or earlier. Cops with nightsticks meting out a little “instant justice” are a common theme.

    5. Raven Nation

      One of my in-laws has been tracking the family tree. One of the relatives embarked on a life of petty crime after college, ended up with a long record, so not a good guy but never carried a weapon. One day he was trying to break into a car, and a cop busted him. He fled the scene, was shot in the back and killed. No enquiry and the newspaper reports had a subtle air of “well, he deserved it.”

  18. The Late P Brooks

    I took a university job in VT.

    Special Assistant to the Associate Dean in charge of Halloween Costumes? I expect nothing less.

    1. Q Continuum

      Eliminating racist Halloween Costumes is everyone’s responsibility.

  19. Drake

    In the latest installment of “Shit that only happens to me”:

    I ordered a gun on Gunbroker and was to have it shipped to my local gun merchant. Of course the gun shop burned down last week. (Didn’t burn to the ground, but closed indefinitely and all their stuff being stored by state police)

    Now I have to find a different FFL.

    1. Q Continuum

      At least your gun hadn’t already been delivered, then you’d never get it back from the PoPo.

      1. “That was sold…er, lost before it made it to the evidence locker.”

    2. Raston Bot

      plenty of at-home FFLs if you don’t mind driving over to Earl’s house in the evening.

      frankly, the whole FFL requirement ticks me the hell off. just run a NICS at the dealer level and ship me my fucking firearm already. goddammit.

      1. And have it fall out of the box as the mailman is carrying it to your door?

        1. Raston Bot

          UPS then. Insure it for a few bucks.

        2. bacon-magic

          Your neighbor’s all think you are the next serial killer, it’ll be alright.

          1. Raston Bot

            feature

      2. Lachowsky

        Or not
        The NICS is a stupid, expensive, and wasteful ineffective infringement of my constitutional rights.

      3. Akira

        frankly, the whole FFL requirement ticks me the hell off. just run a NICS at the dealer level and ship me my fucking firearm already. goddammit.

        Obama said that criminals can just order guns off the Internet with no background check at all, so why don’t you just do that? I mean, surely, the former president wouldn’t just make shit up, right?

    3. Vhyrus

      …wow…. that was…. wow.

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      Related question. Can you still get an FFL for curios and relics only and be able to have guns shipped to your house?

      1. Vhyrus

        Only C&R guns.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Meh, its not worth it.

    1. Count Potato

      That story has a happy ending.

    2. PBRstreetgang

      Is that article about Kevin Spacey?

    3. Playa Manhattan

      #metoo

  20. The Late P Brooks

    back to Boulder for me.
    well, not boulder.

    Phew. You had me worried, for a second.

    1. DOOMco

      it’s a fairly pretty town. The flatirons look nice.
      My next back yard.

      1. Q Continuum

        Nice. Never been to VT, but I want to check it out someday.

        1. Got an off-putting Miskatonic vibe from the area last time I was there.

  21. Rufus the Monocled

    Via Soave at Reason:

    Read the conversation. Eve Browning is awesome.

    http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/30/philosophy-bisexual-islam-ut-san-antonio

    1. Drake

      Hey, somebody picked up my old name at the old place.

    2. Psycho Effer

      I read this and looked for the “to be sure”. Last paragraph, though not in those words.

    3. Vhyrus

      Of course Soave had to throw in a little ‘to be sure’ equivocation bullshit at the end, cause god forbid he makes a purely salient libertarian free speech argument.

      Even when he wins he loses. What the fuck.

    4. wdalasio

      Reading the excerpts, it really isn’t clear to me how Browning got to be a professor. Seriously, some of that stuff read like it was out of bad sketch comedy:

      BROWNING: Doesn’t that strike you as an inappropriate thing to say about someone’s fiance?

      MACDONALD: I wasn’t talking about the fiance. The fiance could have whatever interpretation of the religion that they want. I said something like…(thinking) that I…yeah it wasn’t about the fiance, it was about the religious practices in those countries.

      BROWNING: How is it appropriate to bring that up in connection with someone’s fiance?

      MACDONALD: They brought it up. The Islam part.

      BROWNING: And you brought up the threat to your life as posed by this fiance?

      MACDONALD: No. We got to the subject of Islam, not the fiancé.
      ….
      BROWNING: And do you tell him that you object to his religion because there are places on earth where gay, lesbian, and bisexual people are discriminated against, including your own country?

      MACDONALD: Well, “her.” And my verbiage was “killed” not “discriminated against.” I mean, death penalty’s pretty severe.

      BROWNING: What does that have to do with her being engaged to a Muslim?

      MACDONALD: Nothing. I wasn’t talking about the engagement to the Muslim. I was talking about Islam in that particular moment.

    5. wchipperdove

      You know who had a girlfriend whose name resembled ‘Eve Browning’?

  22. Chipwooder

    I think I’d rather like New England if it weren’t full of a)hippies b)Sawx fans c)snow

    1. GSL in E

      Vermont is full of hippies. MA, Maine, RI, and NH … not so much.

  23. RegicidalManiac

    To shamelessly repost what I asked in the morning links, any WI deer hunters among the Glibs willing to mentor a couple noobs? My fiancèe and I are looking to go out for that next month and could use some help (many thanks to R C Dean for providing useful tips despite being 10 years removed from living in WI).

    We both know the theory (been through the hunter safety course in CO, gone after pheasants and woodcock a couple times), but having someone willing to give us a hand with the practical portion would go a long way towards getting meat in the freezer.

    1. DOOMco

      Watch escanaba in da moonlight?

    2. Q Continuum

      Don’t know about WI specifically, but I know some of those Midwestern states require you to use shotgun slugs since the terrain is so flat and it’s difficult to get far enough away from populated areas.

    3. ArchieBunker

      No where near there but I’d give you some helpful tips. In an area you haven’t scouted your best bet is to walk quietly and very slowly, stopping for 10-30 min every 50 yards or do. The first couple hours in the morning and last hour of daylight is prime. But just wandering deer trails will get you deer. Harder to do with two people but be gotten lots of deer that way

      1. cyto

        All of my WI relatives use the “spend a whole year cultivating a site with deer stands, multiple firing lanes cut through the woods, plantings of clover and baiting with apples and corn” to prepare for the season. Then they fill out their tags pretty quickly when season comes. There’s also a healthy dose of “my wife gets a doe tag too”, to make sure the freezer is filled.

        But up their way you count as “poor” if you only have 10 acres with a single wide trailer on it. Land must be pretty cheap.

        Not terribly useful advice at this point. But next year! Next year, you’ll be ready…

  24. DOOMco

    so now I’ll be DOOMvt? or has co changed into corporation?

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Always thought it was a corp not CO, which is also carbon monoxide, Killer!

      1. DOOMco

        I set it up as colorado, but I think corp works pretty well.

      2. DOOMco

        it started on steam. my handle on other things is DueToThe802. That changed into doom one day as a joke. I moved to Colorado, and kept the doom thing. Steam knows me as coloraDOOM. DOOMco was the next iteration of that.

        1. Hyperion

          Looks up Doom’s Steam account to see how many of the My Little Pony titles he owns…

          1. DOOMco

            as long as no one knows how much time battlefield has sucked away from me…

          2. Mad Scientist

            A teammate’s 4-year-old daughter recently explained to us that the race car would go faster if it had My Little Pony stickers on it. So we put two stickers on and BOOM! third place in the championship. Thanks, Rarity Pony!

          3. Tundra

            Awwwwwww.

          4. That is a really obtuse way of admitting you are a Brony…

          5. Mad Scientist

            I may be a monster, but I can’t look a 4-year-old girl, who’s earnestly offering up a collection of pony toys, in the eye and tell her she’s full of shit. I may need to take a remedial glibertarianing course to correct this problem.

          6. Tundra

            Was she at the race?

          7. Mad Scientist

            No. The race was in Vegas and we had much debauchery planned for afterwards. She stayed home with her mother.

          8. Tundra

            Haha!

            My uncle was a stock car guy back in the day. I have very fond memories of small town dirt track racing. It seemed like one of the dudes rolled his car every time. My uncle had a Camaro that sounded like the gates of hell opening when he fired it up in the barn.

            I am sad that today’s youngsters are being denied that pleasure.

          9. Mad Scientist

            Youngsters are denying themselves by being idiots. We recently had a kid tell us he wouldn’t mind driving for us, and he KNEW he’d be good at it because he’s played a lot of Gran Turismo. Seriously. He also had no clue what that third pedal was for or the sticking up thingy next to the seat.

          10. Very well, Mad, you get a pass… this time.

            Now, Having done her a solid, she will have to summer intern overseeing your mechanic orphans.

      3. mexican sharpshooter

        Always thought it was a corp not CO, which is also carbon monoxide, Killer!

        I misread it the first time I saw it, and assumed his avatar was DOOMCOCK.

    2. MikeS

      Company

      /pedant

      1. DOOMco

        *hangs head in shame*

        1. MikeS

          It’s OK DOOMco(mpany)…here, have some pineapple pizza. Seriously, take it. I can’t eat this shit.

    3. … you mean it was another state designation?

      Keep your corporate identity, Doom

    4. jesse.in.mb

      Remember when Sloopy was Sloopy Inca instead of Sloopy in CA?

      Although I shouldn’t joke too much since people think playa is a player in NYC and that I’m in Manitoba.

      1. Q Continuum

        DAMMIT. I was all ready for a Winnipeg Glib meetup!

        1. jesse.in.mb

          I meant to post when I was in Winnipeg this summer just for that reason.

      2. MikeS

        …and that I’m in Manitoba.

        What kind of an idiot would think that?!

        *looks around…laughs nervously*

      3. Playa Manhattan

        I fell for it. I thought he had a Peruvian fetish.

        1. Q Continuum

          Go back to your hoes Brooklyn boy.

        2. Yusef drives a Kia

          I figured your handle out at TOS, seemed logical

      4. Hyperion

        I always thought that Playa lived in NY until one day I said something and he corrected me. But I have no idea why Sloop thought he was an Inca. I saw his picture here and Incas don’t have that much facial hair, if at all. I thought that you are in Manitoba for real. You’re not?

      5. I thought it was because you worked at that Montreal Bank that goes by mb down here…

        1. Mad Scientist

          I thought it was some meta thing about being in megabytes.

          1. Hyperion

            I thought it was Mercedes Benz.

        2. peachy rex

          MB Financial? It sponsors a lot of races around Chicago – I have quite a bit of stuff with their name on it.

      6. SDF-7

        I just assumed you were a chip on a motherboard….

      7. Count Potato

        Milton Bradley?

        Muslim Brotherhood?

        Man Butt?

        1. Man Bun

          QED

    5. I always thought it was an abbreviation for Doomcock.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Damnit! Me too.

  25. mexican sharpshooter

    Chronoswiss Is Now Accepting Payment In Bitcoin

    This morning, watchmaker Chronoswiss announced that it will now be accepting payment for its watches in Bitcoin and “other crypto currencies.” This will apply both online and in its Lucerne boutique.

    Cool. Too bad regulators are weird and all of these ugly.

    Why yes, I have spent the majority of my workday fucking off. They asked me to create a continuity binder of sorts, as if replacing me will take less than a year and they can train the poor MSA to answer my phone and give him access to the facility’s databases in that time.

    1. This will apply both online and in its Lucerne boutique.

      Lozärn!!! …dammit.

      1. thepasswordispassword

        You know who else insisted on ze gdamnsk german spelling of a city?

        1. A whole passel of Austrian Habsburgs?

        2. That’s not the German spelling; that’s the Schwyzerdutsch spelling.

          The Swiss don’t speak German.

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        I just KNEW you and only you would click my link.

        1. One guaranteed reader!

      3. Gustave Lytton

        *starts moving all Safeway house brand dairy products away from Swiss*

    1. Just Say’n

      (I’m half-joking)

      1. Q Continuum

        I’d say it marks 2016 years 10 months of heresy from the (((truth))).

        (full joking)

        1. Just Say’n

          (((You People)))

        2. Gadfly

          *Pedant alert*
          Actually, it would be less than 2,000 years, as according to Christian scripture, Jesus wasn’t publicly proclaimed the messiah until he was 30(ish), so you have to subtract that from the date of birth.

          (I read your joke, thought about it, got it, laughed, then thought some more. I’ve been told I overanalyze things. I probably shouldn’t pursue a career in comedy.)

    2. thepasswordispassword
  26. MikeS

    One of Pope Jimbo’s drinking buddy makes a critical paperwork error:

    Man accused of owning Minnesota pipe bomb cache left receipt among explosives

    Charging documents filed against 41-year-old Eric James Reinbold describe a plastic tote bin containing six steel pipes of various lengths, some with wires emerging from the pipes attached to 9-volt batteries, and a basic kitchen timer. Among the pipe bomb materials, investigators also found a receipt for fuses containing Reinbold’s name and address, according to the criminal complaint.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Deputies say Reinbold had been contacting family members during the investigation telling them “something to the effect of get the cops off your property because there is nothing there that can hurt anyone,” according to the complaint.

      Well, my suspicions are all assuaged.

    2. Mad Scientist

      Doh!

      1. When I was an ASA, I had a defendant who wrapped up his weed in his bail receipt…for the last drug offense he had.

        1. ArchieBunker

          That just shows being dumb is in fact illegal

          1. Tundra

            I always tell a cop buddy of mine that he’s sooooooo lucky that criminals are so fucking stupid.

          2. ArchieBunker

            On the flip, criminals are lucky cops are generally not to bright. Of course that only helps if you are s smart criminal.

          3. Mad Scientist

            A friend of mine, who is a retired cop, told me multiple times that cops aren’t smart and they only catch the dumbest criminals. He also said it would only take a small shove to make criminals of cops, and in many cases the cops he worked with had already been shoved.

        2. Troy

          Felony stupid is what we called it.

    3. RegicidalManiac

      LOL.

      No, literally, I laughed out loud.

  27. Count Potato

    “TRANS BATHROOM RAPlST (I’M MAD)”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siJ-tlWZQ4A

    1. Hyperion

      No one saw this coming.

      1. Count Potato

        When I first heard about it, I didn’t know it was a bathroom in a private home.

    2. Vhyrus

      TFW a man puts in more work to look good than all of your previous girlfriends….

  28. gbob

    Crappy Monday.

    Last Monday I got a call out of the blue asking if I would be interested in taking a job as a head distiller in another city. The distillery I currently work has had some capital issues, I had been laid off for months and was interested in a new opportunity anyways. I agreed to an interview and they brought me down the next day. Even paid me to interview with them. Offered me a job on the spot. By the time I got home on Wednesday they had sent me an offer letter.

    The numbers were too low, so we negotiated for a bit, and they said my counter was fine, and they would crunch the numbers, type it up and send me a second offer. I quit my current job, had a farewell party and started packing boxes.

    The revised offer still hasn’t arrived. What the hell? They said I would have it by Friday. Do I still have the job? Did I just screw up my life for nothing?

    Going to send them an e-mail asking them what the hell is going on, or perhaps I just do it while sober, tomorrow morning.

    Sometimes I hate the booze industry.

    1. MikeS

      Ooooh boy. Yeah, you may have been a bit premature. I hope not.

      And this is definitely one of those times when you communicate stone-sober.

    2. Psycho Effer

      First rule of thumb is not to freak out. I have had SNAFUs where they simply don’t get the paperwork done on time. This may be the same.

      1. Tundra

        I agree. The sense of urgency is almost always one-way.

    3. Hyperion

      Yikes, that’s scary. You should definitely call them, like now.

    4. Vhyrus

      You would think operating buzzed would be part of the job description at a brewery.

      1. gbob

        Well, at a distillery we tend to work sober. Too many things could go “boom” if we’re wasted. Breweries can be a bit more lax.

        Mind you, I still drink about 3 shots worth just from tasting throughout the workday.

        God knows how much after.

        1. robc

          Breweries can be a bit more lax.

          Only a little. I always worked sober. And in larger breweries there are too many ways to die to not be sober. Ladders, forklifts, pile o’kegs, etc, etc.

          1. gbob

            Right? Everything is trying to kill us. Always.

            We’re An a amazing group. High functioning alcoholics who can stay sober as church mice when we’re on the clock…and that’s most of the time.

      2. Hyperion

        Yeah, I mean, don’t you always need to be tasting the current batch? Quality control.

        1. gbob

          As I said. It’s about 3oz during an eight hour period. Taste from four barrels to make quality notes. Taste while making cuts. Tasting while inspecting the work from the previous night.

          Hmm. If somebody walks in, I’ll do a tasting sample with them.

          And, of course, whenever we bottle.

          Alllllright. I’ll admit. Much more than 3 shots worth a day while at work.

          Still, never drunk or buzzed. You need a strong liver for this gig.

          1. Hyperion

            Do you guys need a software engineer? I can code buzzed, I swear!

          2. gbob

            Like selling ice to eskimos or slaves to libertarians. Entire industry is run by former software engineers who decided they hate getting paid great money, hate coming home clean and not covered in sweat, and having to work a job where you would rather blow your brains out than go to.

            It’s a dumb career change, but some damn great.

          3. Hyperion

            Well, the money is good, but after 20 years I’m pretty bored most of the time. There really isn’t anything to do that I haven’t done a thousand times. The only thing that does change is sometimes you pick up a new pain the ass client that’s a little different sort of pain in the ass than your other pain in the ass clients.

          4. gbob

            I was the same way. Went to teaching for a few years, but hated having even more assholes giving me whit than I did working in software.

            Now I wake up early, lift heavy shit, spend most of my time mopping and cleaning, and loving every single second of what I do.

            I also make less than half of what I did in software.

            On the other hand, I lost that middle age pudge and I look like dried leather, and smell like booze. Going from Seth Rogan to Tom Waites.

          5. Hyperion

            “Now I wake up early, lift heavy shit, spend most of my time mopping and cleaning, and loving every single second of what I do.”

            Yeah, I could actually enjoy that right now. Maybe the career move that I regret most is that I was offered a professorship in charge of a private college’s Computer Science program. I turned it down because I don’t like teaching and am more than a little worried I’d throttle some smartass millennial. That being said, I would have tenure now and pretty much have it made even though I probably wouldn’t be making more than half what I do now.

          6. Hyperion

            3 shots of 40% alcohol wouldn’t give me more than the slightest of a buzz.

          7. ArchieBunker

            And OSHA is okay with this?

    5. Just Say’n

      If you don’t have the job, pull a Constanza and just show-up to your old job at the regular time like you never quit

      1. Private Chipperbot

        This.

      2. gbob

        When I told my boss, I brought out a bottle of the first batch we ever made together. We drank the whole bottle, and I’m not sure how the conversation ended.

        Hmm. That might work to my advantage!

        1. Hyperion

          Quit? What.. me quit? I was just joking!

          1. Psycho Effer

            Where’s my goddamn Swingline stapler?!

          2. Mad Scientist

            “I didn’t quit. What have you been drinking?”

        2. Hyperion

          If you’re close enough to your former employer to sit down and polish off a bottle of vintage, then worst case scenario, he’s probably be glad to hire you back.

    6. kinnath

      Never quit a job till you have an offer in writing.

      Shit happens, things get slowed down. Breathe.

      Always be the grown up in the room. Your career depends on it.

      1. Hyperion

        The last full time gig I had, it took them almost 2 months to hire me after I accepted the offer. If HR peeps are involved, nothing is happening quickly.

      2. tacticalpillow

        Hell I’ve had an offer letter rescinded once. That was fun.

    7. Mad Scientist

      Sounds like there’s trouble brewing.

      *waggles eyebrows*

      Definitely don’t panic. A phone call to the new distillery should be all you need.

      1. BOOOO!!!!!

        *throws empty beer bottles*

        1. Tundra

          Still, it’s good advice.

          1. gbob

            Glib advice is always the right advice.

            I mean, as long as you’re looking for advice on roads, woodchippers, booze, and rape…and what advice isn’t solved by one of those things?

          2. Q Continuum

            And you screw it up, the edit faerie will come by and fix it!

          3. Tundra

            Hmmm. Too subtle?

  29. Saudi Arabia, going nuclear because the Iranians are for energy independence.

    They’re also openly planning to sell their state oil concern to some suckers foreigners that will totally not overpay.

    1. Back to the Standard Oil Company? They are not answering the phones lately.

    1. Just Say’n

      That’s the ticket! Just keep calling Gillespie a racist. That has worked so well for Democrats over the past nine years

    2. DOOMco

      I like how they made the engine sound ridiculous on that truck.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        But they forgot the cloud of black smoke following it. The Latino Council for Insulting My Intelligence has utterly failed in their attempt to smear Gillespie by forgetting this trope.

    3. Hyperion

      “You would have thought that the rebel flag and Gillespie bumper sticker on the car would be enough to convey the message, but no, sure enough, there’s a Gadsden-flag license plate too ”

      They forgot the Ron Paul sticker.

      1. Winston

        Or Atlas Shrugged

    4. AlmightyJB

      Wow. That’s just wow.

    5. Mad Scientist

      They even lifted a little Terminator “Dun Dun Dun, Dun Dun” for the drama.

    6. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Fucking hilarious…

  30. AlmightyJB

    God, I hate this asshole. Unfortunately, he’s most likely going to be our next Governor.

    http://nbc4i.com/2017/10/30/ohio-attorney-general-wants-opioid-lawsuit-settled-soon/

    1. Hyperion

      Create at least 60 more specialized drug courts.

      Double the substance use treatment capacity in Ohio.

      Expand workforce of critical specialists.

      I’m sure there’s no cronyism involved in there anywhere. It’s so great that we have these pure and benevolent saints in government to protect us from evil CORPORASHUNZ! BIG OPIATE!

    2. Yeah, DeWine is an even bigger dickhead than Kasich, and that says a lot. DeWine is a ginormo dickhead.

    3. Drake

      I was expecting a Phil Murphy story.

  31. Winston

    http://deadline.com/2017/10/house-of-cards-canceled-kevin-spacey-scandal-netflix-season-six-1202197604/

    So House of Cards is ending. That was fast. Though it sounds like Rapp is just a pretext.

    Spacey’s brother has some interesting allegations about their father.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5032809/amp/Kevin-Spacey-s-father-Nazi-child-rapist-brother-says.html

    1. AlmightyJB

      Wow, that’s some fucked up shit

    2. Well, they did kill off Urquhart.

  32. Winston

    Gay pedophiles and Gay pedophile nazis. What is this the 50s?

    1. Hyperion

      Hmm, looks interesting. I like unfiltered wheats. Has a low ABV though.

    2. Trigger Hippie

      I’ve drank that many times. Forgo that lemon bullshit, there’s enough of a citrus undertone to it as is. Pour in a glass until about an inch remains in the bottle, swirl it up, then finish pouring for a nice cloudy appearance.

  33. Just Say’n

    I never saw an article on MACtion. Wasn’t someone going to start writing that?

    1. robc

      It was going to be a part of my weekly article that didnt happen last week.

      1. Just Say’n

        I needz my MACtion.

  34. Winston

    Voyager gave us Obama and Discovery is taking down Spacey…

  35. Tundra

    Don’t say I never give you fuckers any good stuff.

    Popular Creeps.

    1. Q Continuum

      Excellent.

    1. Hyperion

      So anyone who wants to can be non-binary, whatever the fuck that gibberish means. So you go to the MVA and say ‘hey, I need to change my gender to non-binary’. So now you’ve just magically bestowed a special snowflake status on yourself. What happens when everyone does this? Who can be special when everyone is special?

      1. AlmightyJB

        So if I’m neither Male nor Female, does that mean I don’t have to pay taxes?

      2. Akira

        Here’s what I’m wondering: if people are going to be allowed to just switch the sex on their birth certificate at will, what is going to happen with all these woman-specific benefits that the government hands out? Can I just declare myself a woman and then qualify for these loans from the Small Business Administration that are only for women? Can I get college scholarships for women?

        You can leave the gender-based entitlements in place, but that’s going to require some kind of government standard to determine who qualifies as a woman. Somehow, I don’t think that’s what the “gender is meaninless” crowd wants to see.

        1. Grumbletarian

          I can’t wait to self-identify as a 14-year old so I can sue my employer for violating child labor laws. Then after that I’ll self-identify as a 90-year old and sue the government for 25 unpaid years of Social Security.

        2. Bob

          This is why I’m not upset about the stupidity. One small idiocy can cancel one larger one.

    2. Winston

      Back in the good old days “the third gender” were homosexuals.

    3. Count Potato

      Not that there haven’t been a number of societies throughout history that recognized a third gender (largely who we would consider MTF transsexual today). And there are societies where pre-op MTF have been fairly common for a long time (eg. Brazil, Thailand) that unofficially recognized it that way. The stupid thing here is that identification documents are for identification. How a person identifies is irrelevant. And they read sex not gender. Just like height, weight, and eye-color, it’s a physical description to show that the license matches the person. There are only two sexes. If someone physically transitions, then the sex on their license should match their appearance. That Lauren Southern was able to get a Canadian drivers license that says she’s a man is ridiculous.

      1. Bob

        I’ve heard rumors about societies with more than two genders but I’d like to see some solid evidence. I’m skeptical for two reasons- 1- the claims almost always come from people who lie for the cause (in fact before the recent controversy of trans I had never heard of this claim. 2- It doesn’t pass my common sense test. There are enormous sex differences with disparities like one sex can have babies and another has a penis. Without that distinction people wouldn’t procreate. I can’t imagine an entire society who doesnt see these as primary gender categories when children and the mentally handicapped make the distinction easily.

        I suspect what they are really referring to is something like homosexuals or feminine men and masculine women. These are subsets of sexes and are recognized by every society. Just because Americans have a word for sissy and butch dyke doesn’t mean we have 4 genders.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          I’ve heard rumors about societies with more than two genders but I’d like to see some solid evidence. I’m skeptical for two reasons- 1- the claims almost always come from people who lie for the cause (in fact before the recent controversy of trans I had never heard of this claim.

          So you weren’t paying attention to an issue outside your sphere of interests and now it has intruded, so you don’t believe it? That’s fine, I guess, but not really a good reason for disbelief. Thailand, The Philippines and India all have long and storied communities of people who are gender non-conforming either by choice, force (eunuchs) or because they were born with some kind of hermaphroditic or intersex condition. Generally these people have been assigned different rolls than their would if they were considered by society distinctly male or female.

          I suspect what they are really referring to is something like homosexuals or feminine men and masculine women.

          Generally these people have been assigned different rolls than their would if they were considered by society distinctly male or female. If you don’t consider that a third gender, then fine, but it’s a bit of cultural chauvinism on your part. Sex and gender are overlapping but distinct concepts, but even the biology of sex is a bit fuzzier than a stark binary.

          1. Bob

            I’ve yet to find any evidence and you’ve yet to provide any. I consider your line of thinking akin to believing that there are cultures who don’t know that eating food is necessary to live. It requires a belief in a culture so exotic or inferior they are incapable of the most basic of pattern recognition.

            It’s cultural chauvinism to take the current political hysteria of your own culture and try to retrofit it to other cultures. I have looked into Phillippino claims and they turned out to be false, claiming that feminine men are a new gender. More damning is that these new genders, besides being merely feminine or masculine subcategories are defined by English terms. That suggests the recent new gender definitions are not just imaginary but are a matter of modern cultural influence.

            This is how all the claims turn out that I’ve looked into. Now maybe you consider gay men or butch women different genders but that is certainly not how gender is described by either the trans activists or their detractors which means those other genders have no relationship to what our modern activists are claiming, and certainly don’t support the expanded definition of the activists.

          2. jesse.in.mb

            By “looked into” do you mean read a book about the histories and cultural nuances of terms like bakla and hijra or read the first sentence of the wikipedia article and considered yourself vindicated. Also I’m surprised that bakla and hijra are English words, because you know, they aren’t.

            I don’t see effeminate gay men and tomboyish women as a third gender because that’s not how we define them in my home culture. I don’t consider the color green to be a subcategory of blue, but many cultures do. You’re going into this argument defining your arbitrary set of categorizations as self-evidently correct, so all other categorizations are incorrect. There’s literally no point in providing you with evidence because your set of precepts is unassailably internally correct because you defined them that way.

    4. Roger Wilco

      While its obviously intended for transgender rights feelz, I’d select the third option just to remove that data from the government databases. I hope more people do this and make a field on a government-issued identification card useless.

      If we keep pushing this we can make it so the birthday only matches the age we feel, height and weight based on what doesn’t body shame us, and the picture can be the anime character we actually identify as. We can do it, people. We can make these things useless.

  36. What will happen on Monday. What you didn’t know. SSA37 ID:fAbSCQGT Sat 28 Oct 2017 16:27:36 No.147017701 View
    Quoted By: >>147018895 >>147019364 >>147019610 >>147020412
    Look, I feel bad for /pol/. You guys have been thrown off so much by intentionally misleading breadcrumbs that no one has any idea what’s been happening for the past 10 months. So I’m gonna throw you guys a bone. Forget the dossier. The real story is Uranium One.

    1. We’ve known that Holder was covering up Russian bribes for Uranium One for a long time now. Hell, even Clinton Cash tells everyone about the bribes that were taking place. The reason Mueller left the FBI was because he was fed up with the corruption of Holder/Clinton/Obama. Holder kept telling Mueller to kill investigations and bury evidence. I don’t know what you think about Mueller, but I can tell you, he’s an honorable man. The corruption of Holder/Obama/Clinton was eating him up alive. He resigned in 2013 when he just couldn’t keep doing this. Then they got Comey who was coerced in to continuing the coverup.

    1. 2. Manafort, Comey, Rosenstein, Podesta, Clintons, Holders, and Lynch are all on one team. We affectionately call them “The Clinton Cabal”. To take this cabal down, we needed someone who was close to career FBI agents because they were holding all the evidence. When the DNC and Clinton campaign spun the Trump/Russian collusion conspiracy back in Dec., we couldn’t believe it. They gave us the perfect way to expose them. We would use the Russian investigation to expose the bribery/extortion racket that took place back in 2009 and continued through 2015.

      3. We got Mueller to sign on to investigate the connection. We needed him because he had been at the FBI for almost as long as Hoover and knew all the agents that were sitting on the Russian/Clinton connection. More importantly, he hates Holder/Obama/Clinton. The plan was, to get the special investigative council headed by Mueller and have the FBI agents handover all the evidence. Unfortunately, we didn’t count on Comey being such an obstacle. In the short time he was the Director of the FBI, he had made many allies who were proving to be loyal to him. He had to go. We knew it would be messy, but we had Pres Trump fire him. It caused a lot of headache for us, but in the end, it was worth it. Mueller’s been gathering evidence from his former agents for months now. Along with the raid to Manafort and Podesta, we now have enough evidence to connect all the dots. Mueller also convinced the FBI informant to speak up. Getting the gag order removed was trivial.

    2. 4. We gave The Hill a heads up. We knew the switch in the narrative from Trump/Russia to Clinton/Russia would take a little time. We had them drop the Uranium One article exactly one week before we would make the first arrests. Couple of days later, we dropped the dossier info. We needed to hammer the train The first arrests will be Manafort and Tony Podesta. These guys are not the real target, they are just soldiers. The real targets are Hillary, Holder, Rosenstein, and John Podesta. We would love to expose Obama as well but Pres Trump is adamant about protecting former Presidents. Even if they are corrupt pieces of shit, he believes in the dignity of the office. He feels that ruining the legacy of a President will do nothing but hurt our country. This is why both Bush’s., Bill Clinton, Obama, and even LBJ will be spared. The rest of the JFK files released will not include the essential information implicating LBJ and Bush Sr.

      5. This is it. The final moves will take place over the next 4 weeks. They could have let this go. Honestly, Pres Trump wanted to get on with Making America Great Again. Period. But Hillary and the DNC just couldn’t let it go. They asked for this. They kept making up shit and now they’re going to pay. If they kept their heads low and faded in to obscurity, we would not have gone this route. They have no one to blame but themselves.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        I was with this until the JFK conspiracy theory part.

        Let’s not put too much trust into some /pol/ greentext, eh?

    3. Winston

      he’s an honorable man.

      Citation needed.

      1. Drake

        Competent too! Just ask Steven Hatfill.

    4. Vhyrus

      God I hope you’re right.

    5. thepasswordispassword

      Mirror universe conspiracy theory version in Blue Land
      https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/924988111880417280

    6. antisthenes

      So, he’s hired by someone connected to the U1 scandal, is himself connected to the U1 scandal, and hires a guy connected to the U1 scandal along with a number of Clinton loyalists.

      And we’re supposed to believe his goal is to take down the Clintons? lol

      And people said the same “honorable man” horseshit about Comey. Honorable people don’t work for the feebs, and they definitely don’t rise to the top.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Comey wasn’t a career FBI man. He was appointed to the position without previous law enforcement agency experience. Closest he came was DOJ work. Also, he was close associate of that mental midget Preet, who has been showing up on the tv shows now. Fucker should be fed head first into a woodchipper(*).

        (*) fictional hyperbole, not an actual threat to that moron

  37. Juvenile Bluster

    Via that other site: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/10/30/toddler-hospitalized-after-his-fathers-arrest-prevented-a-kidney-donation/?utm_term=.32b151cc19d3

    If that child dies, and I’m on a jury … there isn’t much the father could do to members of the transplant committee or hospital administration that I wouldn’t acquit him for.

    1. Q Continuum

      Bureaucracy is just another name for the things we do together.

    2. AlmightyJB

      While you’re over there. Oh noes, not the Behavior Intervention Team. I say bring those BITches on!

      http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/30/philosophy-bisexual-islam-ut-san-antonio

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Scott Greenfield asked the right question for that one: Since when does “Muslim” beat “Bisexual” in the hierarchy of grievances?

        1. Drake

          Muslim seems to be the trump card in the victomology game. I think the total illogic of it all is somehow important.

          1. thepasswordispassword

            I remember a rather untalented comedian put it this way:

            On Sept. 11, when those planes crashed into the World Trade Center and we all saw the pictures of terrorists who did it, Laquita, Maria, Tyrone, and Julio tapped Achmed on the shoulder and said, “Tag, you’re it.”

          2. Drake

            By “it” they meant the most pampered victim in the liberal pantheon of losers.

          3. thepasswordispassword

            Pretty fucked up ain’t it?

          4. Microaggressor

            Every time there is a terrorist attack, there’s more discrimination against Muslims. Won’t somebody please think of the Muslims?

          5. Viking1865

            The movers and shakers of the Left looked at the pajama boys and realized they needed some shock troops.

            You can’t have socialism without some muscle. You need the Red Guards or the Freikorps to crack heads. The skinny jeans wearing vegan cuck ain’t gonna be smashing capitalism, but a guy who thinks the best thing to watch on YouTube is prisoners getting their heads chopped off? That’s a guy that they think they can use.

    1. Count Potato

      “Kurt Eichenwald knows. He has read MANY “books” on the subject.”

  38. Hyperion

    So, wife is now watching one of her novelas and they’re having a burlesque thing going on. Thicc!!!! I can see the TV from here, I’m glad my wife put that big huge Christmas cactus somewhere else. MY GAWD!!! THICC!!! I love soap operas!

    1. Hyperion

      I just ordered some beer for delivery. And some blended scotch.

  39. Winston

    So Trump. Apparently in the last 40 years he did not have fishy business deals that they can now nail him on or did not engage in anything that could be considered lying to investigators or obstruction?

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I’m personally hoping that this investigation results in the indictment of everybody in politics, and that DC is transformed into a walled prison.

      1. Lachowsky

        If only.

      2. Winston

        The sky is purple in your world.

      3. Hyperion

        Well, that would ruin my dream of turning every agency building in DC into liquor stores, bars, and bordellos.

        1. Mad Scientist

          I like where you’re dreaming, Hyperion. Keep it up!

        2. Lachowsky

          I believe Caligula had a good idea when he had the senators of Rome prostitute their wives to raise funds for the state. I like your idea.

        3. RegicidalManiac

          I’d say they should have gun stores too, but I think the ATF already does that, as long as you’re a cartel member.

        4. robc

          +1 atf

      4. Gustave Lytton

        Then… take off and nuke it from orbit…?

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      I guess not.

  40. Lachowsky

    it’s not everyday one is startled by a flying genieboom.

    1. Lachowsky

      shit forgot linky.

      http://imgur.com/xYUxMtS

      1. DOOMco

        “just hangin out.”

    2. Gilmore

      ran out of parking spaces?

  41. DOOMco

    If you’re feeling down about today, just imagine what kevin spacey is up to today.

    1. Drake

      I’m going to guess what the Brits used to call “buggery”.

      1. DOOMco

        i was thinking drinking heavily saying “fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck” as he realizes his next job offer will be a ways off.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Maybe he can star in the next Weinstein produced flick.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      I imagine his day it is something like this

    3. just imagine what kevin spacey is up to today.

      Probably still pretty good. Beejes from hot twinks on a huge pile of money in one of his palatial mansions. Betcha his only real mistake in life was The Life of David Gale .

      1. Did you not see K-PAX?

        1. Never saw it. I believe you.

  42. Winston

    Looking forward to Tartigrade/Kevin Spacey jokes.

  43. LJW

    https://youtu.be/dKQPHC4JyAU

    Funny Soviet cars had quality issues too.

    1. My neighbour bought a Tesla about 6 months ago. Today our neighbourhood lost power for about 12 hours due to a storm in a rural town. It occurred to me that this guy is kinda fucked if we ever lose power for a week, unless he plans to charge with his home gas generator or sponge charge off someone else. No thanks.

      1. Hyperion

        Our power was out today from about 5am this morning until after 2pm. No idea, there wasn’t any storm and now we have no water because of a water main break. What a shit day. But at least my beer arrived.

      2. Badolph Hilter

        unless he plans to charge with his home gas generator

        Now THAT would be fucking hilarious.

        1. I think he got it as a novelty buy. Before that he had a jeep wrangler.

  44. thepasswordispassword

    So this Kevin Spacey being aggressive towards young men thing was another Hollywood open secret?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xYpx8yXLmg

  45. Derpetologist

    recent conversation with believer in Russian meddling

    Me: If Clinton had won, do you think we would be hearing anything about Russian meddling in the news?
    Him [long pause] Hmm….
    Me: Exactly. The only reason we are hearing it is because most of the media is pro-Clinton and they are pissed that she lost. So now they are trying to discredit the election and Trump.

    The Chinese donated a ton of money to Bill Clinton and the DNC in the 1990s, and it barely made the news. It’s not hard to figure out why.
    If Clinton had won the Electoral College, there would be no talk of abolishing it.
    Democrats can’t bear to face the truth: they lost because Clinton is an awful candidate who ran an awful campaign. By the time she made the “deplorable” and the “why aren’t I 50 points ahead” comments, she was doomed. There is substantial evidence that her campaign colluded with the DNC to sabotage Sanders. How’s that for meddling?

    The Russians and others have been trying to influence US politics for decades. It is neither new or shocking. The US tries to influence the politics of other countries. Why would it come as shock that other countries do the same thing?

    1. Gustave Lytton

      +1 Al Gore’s conversion to Buddhi$m

    2. Hyperion

      To me the single most amazing thing in this country today is that Hillary Clinton is not in prison. Just the server thing would have put any of us here in federal prison. Does any unbiased person really believe that she was not selling favors to foreign governments when she was sec state? And using her ‘charitable foundation’ as a cover for it? No, no serious person can believe that. If this circus turns around on her and she gets indicted, that will be maybe the single best thing to happen since her losing the election.

      I’m still wanting to know what’s up with Podesta, but no one is talking much about it. I wonder why?

      1. Troy

        Preach it brother. This is no longer a Republic of limited, enumerated powers but a criminal enterprise run by and for the elite criminal class. A nation of men not laws.

        IMHO, I use Township of Castle Rock vs Gonzolez 545 us 748, as good spot as any

        1. “It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.”

  46. Gustave Lytton

    Proof of brain damage from concussions- https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-join-police-unions-donate-500k-to-gun-control-pledge-for-safer-america/

    (ht: CCRKBA- Gottlieb is a fucking hustler with a past history of being squishy on gun rights but he’s not always wrong)

    1. Hyperion

      Does he want to ban guns for cops also? I mean are any of these gun grabbers actually afraid that someone is going to shoot them? What are the odds of that? How many people are shot in this country on an avg year and how many of those were shot by cops? I’m seriously more afraid of being shot by a cop than a criminal with a gun. Maybe that’s just from years of reading the cop shoots man, woman, grandma, dog, fucking kittens, what the fuck ever. on TOS.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Linked from the above article
        https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-to-formally-endorse-criminal-justice-legislation-finance-activism-boot-camp/

        How much more brain dead can the NFL get? Wading into politics unrelated to their business? Set up how-to camps for their idiot trouble makers? How hard would it have been to say “none of our fucking business” and tell the prima donnas “whatever they do on their own time, as long as it doesn’t reflect poorly on themselves, their teams, or the league is also none of the NFL’s business either”?

        1. Hyperion

          Anyone who lets leftists infiltrate their organization and start fucking around like this, are idiots. To not know these poisonous people ruin everything they touch is like having your head in the sand. Look what they’ve done to the Democrat party in the last 10 years. Look what they’re doing to education.

          1. Winston

            Look at Reason and the LP.

          2. Hyperion

            At least the LP has naked dancing fat dudes. The left doesn’t even have anything that interesting.

  47. Derpetologist

    German train dubbed ‘Anne Frank’ causes controversy

    ***
    Oct. 30 (UPI) — The decision to name a high-speed train after prominent Holocaust victim Anne Frank has generated a bit of controversy in Germany.

    German rail operator Deutsche Bahn — the successor to the rail system that transported millions of Jews to concentration and work camps during World War II — has defended its decision to name a train after Frank.

    Officials said Frank’s name was chosen out of a pool of 25 famous Germans, and company spokesperson Antje Neubauer said Frank symbolized tolerance and a “peaceful co-existence of different cultures, which is more important than ever in times such as this.”

    The Anne Frank Foundation said, though, that seeing Frank’s name on the train is “painful.”
    ***

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Wait til they see her name on a list (like a high school English class’s reading list).

  48. Count Potato

    ““Can you even imagine?” the transgender performance artist, who uses both “he/him” and “they/them” pronouns, asked me when we sat down to chat about his second solo show at the New Your City gallery. The show, entitled Monumental, features a new work that he made by saving his urine for the last 200 days and collecting it in the tank.

    The piece, PISSED, was created in response to President Donald Trump’s February decision to rescind President Obama’s directive that transgender students should be able to use the restroom that corresponds with their gender identity.”

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cassils-monumental-pissed-urine_us_59bbeacee4b0edff971b88f4

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Does anyone know how one can fake a suicide when you want out of this world but you want your family to get the life insurance? Asking for a friend.

      1. Motorcycle accident, very hard to prove that it was intentional.

        1. Hyperion

          Running into a tree at 100mph without a helmet will work. It’s what my half brother did a few years back.

      2. Brian

        Jog in front of a bus.

    2. Hyperion

      The Democrats have to use this as their new logo and message. I mean it’s obvious at this point they don’t have anything better.

    3. Bob

      Wasn’t Obama’s directive meaningless? Like it was more like Obama’s opinion?

  49. KibbledKristen

    And, as predicted (by me, to myself), I am getting inundated with tech writer jobs from my updated resume. I am not a “trained” tech writer, and only did some quasi tech writing for a year, 11 years ago. I suppose I can just ignore these recruiters, but I’m really leaning toward changing the wording on my resume. What could I call that job, other than tech writer?

    (sorry to belabor the resume stuff – I’m mildly panicking at the moment)

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Technical communications specialist/consultant? Product documentation specialist?

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Wiki offers:

        Similar titles[edit]
        Technical Communicator[3]
        Technical Author
        Tech Writer
        Technical Content Developer
        Content Developer
        Content Designer
        Information Developer
        Technical Information Developer
        Information Architect
        Information Engineer
        Information Designer
        Documentation Specialist
        Document Management Specialist
        Documentation Manager
        Text Engineer

        1. Hyperion

          I like text engineer. I call wifey a domestic engineer. Things they do with titles these days. Titles are cheap you know, don’t cost a cent.

        2. commodious spittoon

          Document Management Specialist

          This was my title for what was easily the best job I’ve had so far. I wasn’t a professional, at all: it was all just scanning and indexing paperwork into the database. But then they dumped document design responsibilities into my lap because IT was sick of doing it. One of the staffers dropped the software guide on my desk and told me if I needed to know anything, use the index. So I spent a couple weeks troubleshooting data strings to see what I could get to populate, then went about optimizing the applications and contracts nobody had touched in years. Then I started getting all the wishlist projects IT had ignored since the last designer left. In retrospect it was all pretty tedious, low-level stuff, but I enjoyed my work.

          Then I quit to go work for an attorney and started drinking heavily 😛

    2. Hyperion

      I know a tech writer. That’s a pretty cushy job.

    3. Brian

      Just say “Adult Dancing.”

      1. Troy

        My favorite clip of all time i owe u a shot of jagermeister, or whatever turns ur crank

    4. Content Director.

    1. Excellent top level post. 90% shrieking shit-throwing chimps below. DONALD FUCKING TRUMP is the top level post.

  50. Mustang

    Things you probably won’t hear on the news: a pipe bomb was found at a civil war reenactment after the organizers received a letter with Antifa letterhead demanding they cancel the event.

    1. Hyperion

      That’s not like terrorism or anything, they’re just exercising their rights to protest… with pipe bombs… they’re resisting!

      1. commodious spittoon

        We’ll just pretend we never fought an unfathomably destructive war over the composition and soul of our nation. Yeah, that’ll learn ’em.

        I wonder what pisses off Antifa lefties more, the fact that we sacrificed huge numbers of men to preserve the abominable institution, or the fact that we sacrificed huge numbers of men to end it.

        1. Gilmore

          We’ll just pretend we never fought an unfathomably destructive war

          ok, but can we still dress up in 19th century clothes and talk old-timey?

    2. Gustave Lytton

      I hope they used a cast iron pipe and not a steel one.

      1. Mustang

        It’s a legitimate device. That’s about all I can say about it.

        1. MikeS

          Nobody likes a tease

          1. Hyperion

            Why is your avatar Sarah Jessica Parker?

          2. MikeS

            Whoa.

    1. Troy

      Who the fuck believes judges have any credibility? Hey judges, here’s your contempt.

      /grabs own big hairy cock

      1. Winston

        Damon Root?

    2. Bob

      So the rule that had been in effect for a month is inchangeable despite reverting to the tuke that existed for all time prior.

  51. Hyperion

    This is an interesting take.

    Manafort Indictment

  52. Vhyrus

    ITS HAPPENING!!!!!!!

    U.S. lobbyist Tony Podesta leaves firm amid Manafort probe

    *Heavy breathing* OMG Im gonna hafta leave work early!

    ~~~Edit Faerie cares not for your running image gag expectations~~~

    1. Vhyrus

      EDIT FAIRY, I CHOOSE YOU!

      1. Hyperion

        End tags, bro.

        1. Vhyrus

          Actually I missed the first < on the hyperlink.

          1. Hyperion

            Begin tags, bro. Don’t worry, edit fairy shall appear and save you. Maybe even thicc edit fairy.

          2. juris imprudent

            Edit fairy ain’t in no hurry.

          3. MikeS

            I’m scared…it’s too quiet.

          4. mexican sharpshooter

            We’re getting the fat fairy that drank too much soda aren’t we?

          5. Hyperion

            Sorry, edit fairy is passed out. This is what happens when you have libertarian edit fairies.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Whats happening?

      1. Hyperion

        Tony Podesta is a funny guy. See my link below.

  53. Hyperion

    Tony Podesta is hilarious!

    “It is impossible to run a public affairs firm while you are under attack by Fox News and the right wing media,” he told his former employees, according to a person familiar with his remarks.

    I really had no idea that Tony Podesta is such a funny guy. He kills me!

    1. Vhyrus

      “He kills me!”

      Well, not him… it’s usually the guy he hires.

      1. Hyperion

        Or in this case, it’s him getting dead by Clinton. That seems to happen a lot.

    2. mexican sharpshooter
    3. Brian

      Because FOXNews only started broadcasting a few months ago

  54. Didn’t have a chance to catch up yet, but a quick search apparently doesn’t list it. Excellent article by NR on the current communism fad.

    Really scary:

    Last year, the research firm Survation conducted a poll to ascertain the attitudes of young British people in the 16–24 age bracket. The oldest among this group would have been born in the year the Soviet Union collapsed, the youngest around a decade after the fall of the Berlin Wall. The respondents were asked to look at a list of names and say which ones they most associated with “crimes against humanity.”

    Adolf Hitler finished first, with 87 percent of young people seeing him in a negative light. Much further down (below Saddam Hussein) came Joseph Stalin, whom 61 percent of young people associated with such crimes, with 28 percent of all respondents admitting that they had never heard of him. Half of young people admitted they had never heard of Lenin. And while 8 percent were ignorant of Adolf Hitler, and therefore clearly as ignorant as swans, it is what happened farther down the name-recognition list that was more alarming.

    Fully 39 percent of young people associated George W. Bush with crimes against humanity, and 34 percent associated Tony Blair with the same. Which were higher percentages than for either Mao Tse-tung (20 percent) or Pol Pot (19 percent). The cause is not fellow-traveling but sheer ignorance. No less than 70 percent of young people said they had never heard of Chairman Mao, while 72 percent had never heard of the Cambodian génocidaire.

    Were the low numbers replicated for historical figures related to the Holocaust or Fascism, they would cause an outcry. There would be calls for great education drives and the erection of museums and monuments to the victims of Nazism and Fascism. If young people were discovered to know so little about those crimes, every teacher in the land would be hollering about the inevitability of replaying history we do not remember.

    But it is always different with the Communist virus let loose on the world a century ago. The figure of 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust is rightly set in our collective consciousness and conscience during our years of education and constantly reinforced through popular culture, political reference, and a whole panoply of institutions devoted to keeping memories alive. Consider the recent film Denial, about the attempt by David Irving to sue the American historian Deborah Lipstadt for accurately identifying him as a Holocaust-denier. Some people might have thought this comparatively tangential corner of Nazi history to have been well furrowed, only to discover that a new generation hadn’t seen it done and that it was understandable and even necessary to see it furrowed again.

    But what are the consequences of societies with so little memory of 20 million deaths in the USSR? Or the 65 million deaths caused by efforts to instill Communism in China? If those 65 million Chinese deaths cannot detain us, what are the chances that anyone will care about the 2 million deaths in Cambodia? The million in Eastern Europe? The million in Vietnam? The 2 million (and counting) in North Korea? The nearly 2 million across Africa? The 1.5 million in Afghanistan? The 150,000 in Latin America? Not to mention the thousands of murders committed by Communist movements not in power, a number that could almost seem meager compared with the official slaughter?

    Who could survey this wreckage — 100 million deaths in a century alone — and not recoil? Who would stand on top of these 100 million tragedies and think “Once more, comrades, though this time with subtly different emphases”?

    Few would do so boldly. Of course there was the celebrated historian Eric Hobsbawm, who remained in the Communist Party even after the invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia and earned his place in infamy in 1994 by saying in an interview that, yes, if another 20 million deaths had been necessary to achieve the socialist utopia of his dreams, then 20 million deaths would have been fine by him. Irving claimed that 6 million Jews had not been murdered, and he achieved rightful ignominy. Hobsbawm expressed approval of several times the number of Communist murders and subsequently received from a Labour government one of the highest civilian honors.

    Yet Hobsbawn’s infamous admission is striking for its uncommonness as much as for its drawing-room barbarism. Commoner, especially among the denizens of the academy in the West, is a form of evasion that goes hand in hand with emulation. This is the process, familiar to anyone who has studied the sewers of thought in which some people seek to diminish Nazi culpability in World War II, by which small platoons of intellectuals fight to divert blame from the Communist cause. They blame a few rogue elements and diminish the body count to form some kind of equivalence of their own with whatever crime of the West they can find within reach.

    For decades, America’s public intellectuals have been noteworthy for chipping away at the lower reaches of the Communist canon. It is over the genocide in Cambodia that America’s most cited public intellectual, Noam Chomsky, retains some notoriety. As reports of Pol Pot’s genocide emerged, Chomsky was one of those who wished to ignore the reporters accurately describing what was happening. Instead he relied on Richard Dudman, a source who after two weeks in Cambodia described working conditions in the country as “hard” but “by no means intolerable.” For Chomsky it was clear that, in the wake of America’s involvement in Vietnam, it remained the capitalist U.S.A. that must be focused on as the source of all crimes. Local actors, especially socialist and Communist actors, could be viewed only in a secondary light, and even then with the presumption of innocence, while always and everywhere America met with the presumption of guilt. This is the trick that Irving attempted with the Holocaust and the number of deaths resulting from the bombing of Dresden. American college students are of course not fed — or encouraged to digest — a diet of Irving.

    Other prominent intellectuals in the years since have also viewed the “excesses” of the Marxist dreamers as being either a necessary evil or a necessary evil that did not even happen. Some have managed to hold both thoughts in their heads, as Paul Hollander among others has chronicled.

    Consider that other present favorite of American students, Slavoj Zizek. This is a man who praised the Khmer Rouge “for attempting a total break with the past” and criticized them for being “not radical enough” and for failing to “invent any new form of collectivity.” Thus the jocular imbecility that constitutes Zizek’s style also reveals its moral imbecility. This is a man who, while praising the “humanist terror” of Robespierre, asserted that the French revolutionary “redeemed the virtual content of terror from its actualization.”

    ……..

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      No data on Che but W and Tony Blair committed crimes against humanity? Interesting.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Tell me this was accidental. We just forgot to instruct children on some of the twentieth century’s biggest monsters, and they all just happen to be of the same philosophical/ideological bent.

      1. Hyperion

        Yes, it was accidentally on purpose.

    3. Hyperion

      This is the result of modern public education. Really, if you don’t want you kids to be stupid, don’t send them to public school.

      1. Winston

        What was stupider for the classical liberals to create? Public Schools or Universal suffrage?

        1. Hyperion

          Public school is an unmitigated disaster. Not one dime should be spent on it, it needs to be shut down now. That includes funding for higher education. I mean, it’s causing 4 out of 5 women to be raped. Who thinks that is acceptable?

    4. kbolino

      Other prominent intellectuals in the years since have also viewed the “excesses” of the Marxist dreamers as being either a necessary evil or a necessary evil that did not even happen. Some have managed to hold both thoughts in their heads, as Paul Hollander among others has chronicled.

      Ah, the old classic.

      1. It didn’t happen.
      2. … but they had it coming, anyway.

    5. Bob

      There’s a lot of the anti-war community that say that George Bush faked evidence to kill a million (or whatever absurd number) innocent people for imperialism. They’ve been banging that drum for 15 years so it’s no surprise people took them at face value.

      This is the problem with saying thinks wholly out of proportion with reality. Bush was a tyrant on par or less than just about every world leader ever. We get the same shit with people saying America imprisons more people than any country in the world or whatever bullshit. Convince everyone this is an enormous police state worse than almost any other and they won’t fear police states and may very well find opposing systems attractive.

    6. Because I keep forgetting to link to @nro in my tweets, feel free to r/t my revised version: https://twitter.com/FishLikesFlicks/status/925298404154138624 – let’s get this viral! ;p

  55. KibbledKristen

    Is there a formal/Latin term for a logical fallacy which uses the expertise/education of the arguer as evidence of truth? Like credentialism, but something along the lines of argumentum ad…

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      argumentum ad verecundiam

      1. KibbledKristen

        Beat me to it by a mile! Damn phone call distractions!

    2. KibbledKristen

      Never mind: argumentum ad verecundiam

    3. Gilmore

      i would have just called it some variant of ‘appeal to authority’, and spared myself the latin

      1. Gilmore

        which seems to be what it is

        argumentum ad Verecundiam fallacy (argument from inappropriate authority): an appeal to the testimony of an authority outside the authority’s special field of expertise.

        i’ve seen this before where someone is like,

        ‘uhm, like, I have a PhD so, like, don’t be even trying to lecture me on Fracking science”
        “but your PhD is in Romantic Poetry!”
        “yeah, well, what do you have, dummy?”

        1. cyto

          I had an argument with someone with a PhD about racism in America. She was adamant that 500 black people are lynched in America every year. (old-school lynched…. like noose hanging in a tree style). When I told her that there were barely 100 people of all races lynched in the worst year for lynching in the 20th century, she doubled-down, claiming that 50,000 blacks were lynched every year in the 1950’s.

          Her PhD thesis….. was on the impacts of racism and the civil rights movement in the south. You just can’t make this stuff up.

          (for those who don’t have any idea what the real numbers might be…. 50k is probably 10x the total of all lynchings since the Civil War – regardless of race.)

    1. Vhyrus

      I know where Dexter shops….

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Where’s the trash bags?

  56. mexican sharpshooter

    Excellent. Nothing like sitting next to Tae Kwon Do parents talking about Bowe Bergdhal, Islam and Anime.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Thoughts and prayers with you

  57. Q Continuum

    Oh joy, cause I know I’m not looking for “fun” when I tune into late night comedians, I’m looking for brainless, emotionally driven political commentary utterly divorced from reality.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/jimmy-kimmel-on-healthcare-trump-gun-control.html

    1. Hyperion

      When I said that leftists destroy every damn thing they touch, did you not actually believe that, Q?

      1. Q Continuum

        I’m with ya all the way. It’s why I’m an angry loner.

        1. Hyperion

          I have my wife, family, and a few close friends. It’s all I need. Most people are shit. That’s not a bad attitude, it’s the truth.

          1. Lachowsky

            Most people are shit. That’s correct. There are concentrations of not shit people though. Find where those are and you imores sion of people may improve.

    2. Winston

      Fuck Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.

      1. Lachowsky

        Lenny Bruce is not afraid.

  58. Juvenile Bluster

    3 reactions to this:

    1. The cop’s costume is just terrible, but not racist, and the kerfuffle is silly.

    2. He’s right, the costume he described would cause a whole lot more outcry.

    3. I think I may have to use his costume idea.

    1. Hyperion

      Well, the link is SF’d. But again, just another example of the left killing everything that is fun or good in any way.

        1. Hyperion

          “a pig nose and a sign reading “will kill 4 donuts.”

          That’s actually funny.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        there’s actually no href=[url] in there for me to fix it.

        1. Vhyrus

          LOOK UP DAMMIT!!

          1. jesse.in.mb

            Now I’m miffed I fixed yours, pal.

          2. Hyperion

            Can’t you just copy and paste a URL and it will magically become a link here? I’m so used to fully writing out links in code, but I swear one night I was drunk and accidentally did that here and it worked. Yes, I know this secret would make Edit Fairy jobless if true, but …

          3. Vhyrus

            yes it does work.

          4. Vhyrus

            I want to make an inappropriate edit fairy joke right now.

          5. Hyperion

            FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!! This is almost as good as a John T and Gilmore quarrel! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!

          6. jesse.in.mb

            Not gonna lie, I’m a little annoyed at how much trouble I’m having finding a subversion of the fairy ideal with actual sexy beefcake.

            I may need to press-gang an artist friend for bearies or something.

          7. Hyperion

            Aren’t there a few artistic types who hang around here?

          8. Re: Jesse

            this one ? Mega Blast?

          9. jesse.in.mb

            Not at all beefcake. I’m actually surprised there isn’t a lot of beefy-guy-styled-as-fairy instead of just goofy queens playing off the obvious gag.

          10. jesse.in.mb

            Pomp: That’s a sexy cupid

            MikeS: I saw one of those, but they still have fem features.

          11. Badolph Hilter

            Applauds MikeS.

            Swing and a miss on the first one, completely nailed it on the second one.

            Bravo sir.

          12. Also Eros isn’t really a faerie.

          13. Gilmore

            a John T and Gilmore quarrel

            I honestly read that, and drew a blank for about 5 mins before i could remember ever having had a tiff about anything.

            then i was like, “oh, “”colonialism””.

            But that wasn’t really even a quarrel, because we weren’t even talking about the same thing. He wanted to talk about historical precedents….

            …i was talking about the idea of colonizing – as a theoretical libertarian matter.

            e.g. in a libertarian foreign relations construct, which suggests that ‘international trade’ should be unregulated and unlimited and never interfered with by sovereigns… and that ‘free movement of labor’ is pre-eminent and should also be (theoretically) unlimited…

            …in that framework, what would prevent any rich country from (theoretically) ‘colonizing’ any poorer one which followed the same rules? Simply buy up/merge with some of their largest employers, send your people over there to manage those concerns, and economically take the place over.

            I was asking this from value-judgement neutral pov. i.e. not whether it was a good or bad thing, just opining that it was entirely *legitimate* from a libertarian POV.

          14. Rhywun

            Not gonna lie, I’m a little annoyed at how much trouble I’m having finding a subversion of the fairy ideal with actual sexy beefcake.

            Yeah, I’ve noticed the faeries I get are a little on the unattractive side. It’s gotta be a difficult niche to fill.

          15. MikeS

            My last try. My search engine is getting very confused

            One funny one; I was getting a few Zed hits for some reason

          16. Rhywun

            Not really beefcake

            90s retro. I’d hit it.

          17. jesse.in.mb

            90s retro. I’d hit it.

            *Takes notes, feeds into computer*

        2. Badolph Hilter

          It’s the night shift, dude. You’re supposed to just paste in some little nude anime fairy and call it good.

          1. Hyperion

            They’re not nude! They’re just clothing impaired, you racist!

    1. Hyperion

      I’m sure that has the HM approval stamp. That’s really pretty good.

      1. Band-Maid is one of the best current J-Rock groups IMO.

        Japanese Bands I actively follow/buy (currently):
        M-Flo (nothing in a few years – but incredible – esp the live performances/arena concerts on DVD)
        Band-Maid – couple good albums so far.
        Charan Po Rantan – classy!
        FEMM – incredibly re-listenable techno, 95% of songs fully in English, all vids subbed – awesome stuff.
        Mistress Yulia – interesting.

        1. Hyperion

          Remember the band Loudness from way back? I mean they’re guys but still Japanese. I used to like a lot of their stuff. But different topic, games, I hate JRPGs.

          1. Gilmore

            Or as Koji Nakajima used to say, “Roudness”

          2. Hyperion

            Wok and Woll cwazy nights!

          3. Doesn’t ring a bell, but I’ve probably heard something by them. I’ll check later.

      2. cyto

        That was pretty damned great, actually. Thanks for the introduction.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s not LadyBaby but I’ll take it.

      https://youtu.be/M8-vje-bq9c

      1. Hyperion

        Hey, the one is the middle is thi…. hey, WTF! YOU MONSTER!

  59. KibbledKristen

    The dog is perfectly capable of jumping on the sofa himself, but needs me to stand behind him like a gymnastics spotter.

  60. commodious spittoon

    Sitting in class going over application-layer protocols one… at a time… zzzzz

    1. Hyperion

      There is no application layer, it’s a myth!

    2. quincy

      application-layer protocols

      Wash your brushes and rollers? It’s not complicated. Sheesh.

      1. Hyperion

        It’s too late, he’s fallen in the application layer conspiracy trap, there’re no way out.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Is this going to be on the final!?

          1. Hyperion

            What? The final is part of the conspiracy. Next thing I know they’ll have you believing in data and business layers. Just resist!

  61. Winston

    Anthony Rapp was in Six Degrees of Separation with J.J. Abrams. Huh…

    1. KibbledKristen

      OOh! One of my favorite games! (my Ma was an expert)

      Anthony Rapp was in 6 Degrees with WIll Smith. Will Smith was in Men in Black with Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee Jones was in The Client with Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards was in Top Gun with Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise was in a Few Good Men with Kevin Bacon.

      Five degrees. Not my best effort. But all from memory.

      1. Gdragon

        You could have gotten there even faster. Tommy Lee Jones was in “JFK” with Bacon.

    1. That looks like a lot of fun. Haven’t played board games with folks for a long time (other than Catan type stuff – although I love classic Monopoly or the Solar System variant – don’t remember the name offhand – but it had nice extra bits like getting stranded without fuel between space stations/planets would kick you out of the game).

      Mondo Tees has been pimping a new “Thing” board game that sounds like a pretty cool version of Clue – but again…I’d need to find someone to play with. (maybe some folks from work sometime).

  62. Derpetologist
    1. Gilmore

      That bass player was once a man, yo.

      honestly, 80% of the time i’m not really impressed by the “post-modern jukebox” stuff. I mean, they’re very good performers, but often, the stuff they choose to re-do isn’t really all that interesting to begin with, and its not particularly good in the genre they’re trying to port it to.

      I thought the Puddles version of “Royals” was genius. And occasionally they hit on some tune that really really translates well to some other genre. But , again, most of the time, they seem to be shooting fish in a barrel. just playing some tunes which ‘oh, millenial kids will know this – but they don’t know [insert genre] for shit, so they’ll never judge it based on those merits anyway’. So if its shitty “jazz” or shitty “dixieland” or shitty “ragtime” or shitty “bossa nova”… well, who cares? WELL I CARE. no, just kidding. Its just that to me, its ‘some tune i never heard/liked to begin with, played in some cutesy, mediocre way”. which is sometimes fun, but most of the time, yawn.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        “That bass player was once a man, yo.”

        Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed.

      2. hayeksplosives

        That singer was one of the background singers in Puddles’ “Royals” wasn’t she?

        Puddles Pity Party is coming to the Mini Apple in March. Thinking about buying tickets…

        1. Gilmore

          wasn’t she?

          Yes, she’s like the #2 “star” in the PMJ thing. scott bradlee started it, and she (robyn adele anderson) was sort of his ‘hot, torch-singing’ protege.

          they’ve had a cast of other characters sub in and out for different stuff, but the 2 of them are sort of the most-recurring personalities.

  63. straffinrun

    Japanese girl says school forced her to dye hair black; sues Osaka gov’t

    A Japanese teenager is suing the government of Osaka, saying her public high school repeatedly forced her to dye her naturally-brown hair black or be banned from attending school, local media reported on Friday.

    1. Derpetologist

      “The nail that sticks up gets pounded down.”
      Japanese proverb

      In Japanese, the word for “different” also means “wrong”.

      If you look closely, they even blink in unison:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p0DsVPkyZg

      1. straffinrun

        “Kill the chicken to scare the monkey.”
        Chinese idiom

    2. Rhywun

      She should show up with a bull ring and neck tatts.

    3. cyto

      She’s suing for 2.2 million yen.

      If google knows what it is talking about, that is about $17k.

      The Japanese are pikers when it comes to litigiousness.

    4. The state is the biggest bully of them all.

  64. Derpetologist

    for no reason at all

    Making socialism democratic will not make it work any better than the authoritarian version.
    The basic problem of socialism is the same, no matter if it is being run by a dictator, a small group of elites, or a large group of elected representatives.
    That problem is central planning. No individual or group, however competent and well-meaning could possibly plan well enough to meet the wants and needs of millions of people.

    If there was a way to get it through their heads. I doubt it though. Most people attracted to socialism think they will be Top. Men. instead of toiling away in a gulag or living a life of quiet desperation.

    1. Hyperion

      “Most people attracted to socialism think they will be Top”

      I would say it’s not most, it’s all.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I don’t think most of them want to be Top Men, most just want to be free from worry. They want mommy to take care of them and make the bad outcomes go away.

      1. Q Continuum

        ^^^Yup. They have the minds of children.

    3. Q Continuum

      Pure democracy is as tyrannical as anything. Just because a majority voted away my rights doesn’t make me feel any better than if a dictator took them away.

    4. Lachowsky

      I would like to hashtag this post as

      #realworldconsequencesofgovernmentregulation

  65. Lachowsky

    So, I spent a lot of time this week at work trying to ameliorate a problem that the EPA says is a problem. Specifically, the release of carbon dioxide from my plant.

    Here’s the deal. We have a giant bag house that pulls off our furnaces. The gasses exhausted after the filter system does what it does are monitor for 5 different “pollutants”

    One of those is CO2.

    We use graphite electrodes to electrically arc on vats of scrap steel in our furnaces. Recently, the availability of graphite electrodes has dropped. This is mostly due to a lot of Chinese steel mills coming online that use graphite electrodes to melt instead of the more traditional oxygen furnaces that they used to use.

    The cost per ton of steel produced at my mill in electrode consumption has jumped from 6 dollars a ton 36 dollars a ton in the last few months.

    My problem comes in here. The way to conserve electrodes is to spray more water on them while they are arcing. The more water, the longer the life. However, the more water allowed into the furnace the more CO2 ends up escaping our baghouse. I have been playing with the amount of water all week trying to determine just how much water I can spray on the electrodes without generating enough CO2 violations that the cost of EPA fines outstrips the savings in electrode cost.

    Fuck the government.

    1. Q Continuum

      TL;DR: Fuck the government. You got my vote.

      1. Lachowsky

        come on Q. read it. You probably understand more about the chemical process that turns super heated water into CO2 than I do. last chemistry class I took was in 10th grade.

        1. Hyperion

          Nothing you can know or do is going to change it, Lach, the government… I mean the rogue agencies created government, are looking to shake your business down for some loot. There really is nothing different here from the mob sending down Guido and Luigi to break your knees if you don’t pay the protection money.

          1. Lachowsky

            I know Hyp. This has just been a particularly prickly problem for me. I spent a lot of my time at work doing things that make the process better. Aside frommy regular duty of keeping the machines operating, I do a lot of improvement work. I make the machine run more efficiently, make the operators jobs easier, come up with ideas that save the company money, etc. This is the first time in my professional career that I have had to do something that is going to cost my plant more money. What burns me up is that I’m doing it on order to satisfy an EPA demand. Especially one that I think is bogus bullshit. I could rant for awhile about this.

          2. Hyperion

            Yeah, I know. Excuse me for not being very rational there. Stuff like this really pisses me off. That’s not the advice you need right now.

          3. Lachowsky

            meh, you aren’t being irrational. The policies in place are irrational. You were merely being unhelpful 🙂

        2. Q Continuum

          OK, I read it. Standard disclaimer, I’m not a chemist:

          I assume you’re creating Carbon Monoxide as well? If so you might have some kind of inverse water gas shift reaction:

          CO + H2O → CO2 + H2

          in which the CO plus H2O are being catalyzed by the water to create more CO2. Then I’d assume the H2 gets combusted? I don’t know how your process works exactly but maybe if there’s a way to increase oxygen in the furnace which should reduce CO? Best I can come up with.

          I stand by my original statement which was your original statement: fuck the government.

          1. Q Continuum

            Catalyzed by the electricity* not water. Shit. I’m srunk, whaddya want?

            The edit faerie is off delighting some lucky soul so I know I can’t rely on her.

          2. Q Continuum

            SHIT. Drunk, not srunk. Fuck.

            ~~~Edit Faerie thinks this is all delightful, and will leave it as a testament to your srunkeness, tee hee~~~

          3. Lachowsky

            I copy. I’m drinking too. First day in 10 that I don’t have to work in the morning. Thank Zardoz.

            And yes, the H2 gets combusted. At the same time that we arc on the steel we also inject oxygen into the furnace to speed the melting process. You’re thinking that an increase in oxygen can decrease the CO2? If so, I can do that.

          4. Q Continuum

            I think that more oxygen in the furnace may decrease CO which would then decrease CO2 created by the electrolytic process downstream. Maybe? I guess it’s worth a shot.

          5. Hyperion

            I wish I didn’t have to drive to see a client in the morning. I’d really drink a lot more. This has been a shit day that I want to forget.

          6. Lachowsky

            I’ll try it wednesday. thanks Q
            Also, keep them titties coming. They are appreciated. .

          7. Hyperion

            Titties, mmm, titties.

          8. Lachowsky

            I give them titties 2 thumbs up, you pervert

          9. Brasidas

            I am also not a chemist and have no idea how an arc furnace works, but really hot water and electricity will start splitting the water into hydrogen and oxygen. The extra oxygen may be leading to more CO2 and less CO. You could try reducing the oxygen.

            Sounds like you have a nice science project on your hands.

          10. Lachowsky

            It’s just wiki, but if you’re interested.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_arc_furnace

            The current focus of what I do to provide for my family is to make two of those things work.

  66. Q Continuum

    Elay Smith.

    http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/hot-busty-girls-19.jpg

    For you Glibs who swing that way, she has some very NSFW stuff out there, I trust you can find it.

    (Hey I’ve had a couple beers and it’s Glibs After Dark, sue me)

    1. Q Continuum

      And for those wondering, I do aim to be the Russ Meyer of Glibertarians.

  67. quincy

    I think I switched by Google language to Catalan. I have no idea what’s going on.

    1. Q Continuum

      Time to go fight Madrid?

      1. quincy

        No. Aprofiteu ràpidament les Illes Balears pels seus ingressos turístics.

        1. Q Continuum

          No worries, the Britons will do enough of that for everyone.

          1. quincy

            Crida a britànics borratxos fent-nos servir a la nostra bella illa

          2. jesse.in.mb

            *onades tazer a quincy*

            maleïda calma, germà

          3. quincy

            16/5000
            Bé, em comportaré.

    2. Hyperion

      Someone was taxed enough already?

      1. quincy

        La festa del te serà un fenomen internacional!

        1. Hyperion

          We’re all libertarians now.

    3. Rhywun

      I’ve seen more Catalan in the last week than in all of the 30 years since a couple months I spent in Tarragona piqued my interest in trying to learn some.

      Wales, you’re up next.

      1. Hyperion

        Don’t be giving us shit about goats, we don’t know what you’re talking about.

  68. Derpetologist

    think of this as the derp equivalent of a midnight snack:
    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/10/can-we-have-humane-immigration-policy

    One of the dimmer bulbs at Current Affairs ponders immigration reform. Hilarity ensues.

    ***
    we need to think strategically about the problems in our current system, how to humanely fix those problems, and how to rally voters and legislators to care about the issue. This means getting left-leaning voters to understand why the “enforcement plus amnesty” model of reform, which sounds superficially reasonable to the uninformed, is actually a very bad idea.

    There are, of course, a number of people who object to immigration for purely racist reasons, or because of totally irrational and baseless fears. There are also people who object to immigration for motives that are reasonable, or at any rate sound reasonable.

    Immigration is an especially difficult issue to develop an organizing strategy around, because most immigrants—and certainly the most vulnerable classes of immigrants, for whom deportation is a constant threat—cannot vote

    My own observation is that many people who are strongly in favor of restrictive immigration policies are unreflective individuals with a strong reverence for rule-following in the abstract. Asked to explain their views, they frequently fall back on stock phrases like “well, we can’t help everyone” or “we’re a nation of laws.” To some extent, this mindset can be disrupted by correcting people’s erroneous assumption that our immigration laws make any damn sense.

    It’s crucial to explode, decisively, the right-wing narrative that immigration per se hurts native-born workers. This is important not just because the working class was part of the swing vote in the last election: after all, most Trump voters were middle- and upper-class people. But many of those upper- and middle-class people no doubt convinced themselves that they were white-knighting for the working class by opposing immigration, and we must do our best to deprive them utterly of that veneer for indulging their prejudices.

    And of course, the term “bad hombres” is absurd and racist, inasmuch as it suggests a connection between speaking Spanish and committing crimes.

    A lot of the liberals I talk to seem to know almost nothing about this situation: after all, the New York Times isn’t running very many front-page stories about it. But you know who does have an on-site journalist down at the border, churning out blood-spattered reportage on a daily basis? Fucking Breitbart News. Conservatives know all about the situation on the border—framed within a very specific anti-immigration narrative, of course—because they see stories about it constantly. If Breitbart is reporting regularly on border happenings, trying to reinforce the “Mexicans = murderers” narrative, then the NYT should be reporting on it just as frequently, talking about the refugees this latest wave of cartel infighting is creating.
    ….
    One line I used to hear a lot was, “Don’t be scared of refugees! After all, the people who perpetrated 9/11 entered the U.S. legally, on tourist and business visas!” Nice work, guys, you just made a great argument for the Muslim Ban.

    First of all, there is nothing innate about “immigrants”—a gigantic and varied class of individuals—that makes them less likely to commit crimes than “native-born Americans.” We could easily see that convenient statistic flip at any time, for any number of random factors. Secondly, supposing somebody breaks down the crime statistics based on race, ethnicity, religion, or type of crime, and finds out that certain immigrant populations are over-represented? Do we really want to be implicitly encouraging demographic screenings for criminality? I think not.

    in the case of immigrants who have recently committed violent crimes, deportation will serve neither to aid their rehabilitation or keep other potential victims safe, since the person may go on to commit similar acts of violence against people in the designated country of deportation. For this reason, I think that violent criminals shouldn’t be deported, but I recognize that it will probably be near-impossible to persuade the general public of this
    ***

    1. Q Continuum

      I feel kind of ill after reading that. Though it may be the Colorado CoolAid.

      1. Lachowsky

        http://imgur.com/rWC558k

        This Colorado koolaid?

        1. Q Continuum

          That’s the one.

          1. Lachowsky

            I appreciate you answering my chemistry question. In honor of that, here is the first selfie I have ever taken. enjoy.

            http://imgur.com/cljiAlF

          2. Rhywun

            Hawt

          3. Mustang

            Careful, scruff like that will bring all the boys to the yard.

          4. Lachowsky

            The hipsters call it “no shave November”

            round these parts we call it “deer season”

          5. Rhywun

            I thought it was, uh, sorry… “Movember”.

          6. F. Stupidity Jr.

            You’re Seann William Scott!?

    2. Rhywun

      most Trump voters were middle- and upper-class people

      Um…

    3. Hyperion

      I think that Democrats have a very serious, and by very serious, I mean fatal problem with paying attention to what’s going on around them. Self awareness is maybe the term I was looking for. A few months ago there was an article published at NYT calling for open borders. I’m seriously not exaggerating when I say that the NYT commentariat were more than 90% posting stuff criticizing the idea of open borders. If the Democrats seriously think this is a winning platform, they are doomed as a major party.

    4. Rhywun

      OMG that last paragraph

      1. Q Continuum

        It boggles the mind. It must have been like that for the first explorers visiting Polynesia. The way they think is so different it’s essentially impossible to understand how they arrive at their conclusions.

        1. Hyperion

          It would have been like coastal leftist elites visiting flyover. Literally no point of reference.

      2. Mustang

        Don’t deport violent criminals because they might commit crimes in other countries. Keep them here so they can suck up tax dollars in the prison system or kill more Americans.

        And they wonder why everyone hates them.

        1. Hyperion

          Don’t worry. Right thinking Democrats can nudge these confused fureners in the right direction. It’s not their fault. I mean unless they start voting for Republicans and then they’re irredemable.

          1. Mustang

            You keep asking me why Sarah Jessica Parker is my avatar and I haven’t been able to come up with anything witty to retort with, so I’ll just say I typed in “horse with a human mouth” in Google and had it edited to add the bling cause it matches my moniker.

          2. Hyperion

            I don’t think it was me that asked you that before. At least I don’t remember that. Maybe it’s just because it really does resemble her?

          3. Mustang

            Maybe. I don’t know. Anyways, there it is.

            It does resemble her but I couldn’t find a picture of a Ford Mustang with a mouth on it. Not that I tried.

          4. Mustang

            Well there you have it.

          5. Q Continuum

            Maybe “he” really is Sarah Jessica Parker….

          6. Mustang

            *clutches Matthew Broderick, scurries away*

    5. quincy

      Els atacs violents han de ser deportats

    6. Akira

      Nice work, guys, you just made a great argument for the Muslim Ban.

      Are they still calling that thing a “Muslim Ban”? That thing that did not affect the numerical majority of the world’s Muslims? That thing that would also ban non-Muslims in those countries?

      That’s like appending the title “Catholic Ban” to some executive order that banned immigration from Mexico, Brazil, and France.

      1. Q Continuum

        They’re literally impervious to logic. Just keep repeating it over and over and *OVER* until it becomes true.

      2. Mustang

        They do not know what else to call it. I don’t mean that they can see it another way, they literally lack the knowledge of it. Opening themselves up to any other name implies that it could be anything other than what they want it to be and they can’t have that. It destroys their world view, so they don’t even acknowledge other viewpoints.

      3. Lachowsky

        Akira, Did you get your chandelier problem worked out?

    7. Bob

      The democrats supporting open borders will go over like supporting legal heroine. I get the principal but it’s not popular.

      1. Rhywun

        If the Dems somehow manage to take back Congress next year, Trump could have some fun by advocating the opposite of anything he wants to accomplish.

        1. Lachowsky

          I have my doubts about the Dems being able to win back much of anything. Theor fringe members are very off putting. The R’s fringe members are off putting as well, but there aren’t nearly as many of them
          Lachowsky’s 2/100 of a dollar because I can’t find the cent symbol on my phone.

      2. Hyperion

        Open borders is a wonderful idea, in a perfect world. In fact, I can’t really think of a single libertarians argument against it in that perfect world. However, in the world we actually live in, I can think of several. La festa del te serà un fenomen internacional!

        This is the problem with leftists. Nothing they advocate is based on logic, it’s just raw emotion. This is why they don’t want any debate.

        1. Hyperion

          I really have no idea how this got in there?

          ” La festa del te serà un fenomen internacional!”

          It’s a virus. The killer world ending virus is really upon us this time.

          1. Mustang

            Well, someone said it further up thread at post 79 too.

        2. Lachowsky

          Open borders without a welfare state is optimal. I’m probably beating a dead horse amongst libertarians, but that is the only way it works. Without the destruction of the welfare state, perverse incentives take over and we have what we have now.

      3. KSuellington

        If heroines are made illegal only outlaws will be heroines.

  69. Rhywun

    OT: Never try to stare down a hungry cat. You will lose every time.

    1. Lachowsky

      About 10 years ago, my brother and I were hanging out at a friends place. Our friend had a mean ass cat. This cat bit my brother on the hand. A few hours after the bite, we decided to head to my dad’s place. 10 minutes into the drive, my brother started complaining about his hand. I called him a pussy and every other derogatory term I could think of. He then showed me his hand.

      He had red streaks under his skin going up and down from the cat bite several inches long. I took him to the hospital. He ended up on IV antibiotics for a week to keep his hand from rotting off.

      Cats suck.

      1. Rhywun

        Mine are all sweetness – not bitey at all. But man are they demanding.

    2. Gilmore

      I once watched my cat (*the very mean, outdoor one that lived from nearly my birth to when i graduated high school) stare at an animal for hours before it suddenly killed it. i could tell that nothing pleased it more than staring at something and going, “DOOD IM SO GOING TO FUCK UR SHIT UP IN LIKE…WHENEVER I DECIDE”. Murder porn. Cats like killing for its own sake, not just for food. Murder is entertaining. Which i guess is normal for any predator. You might as well love your work.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        A while back I keep hearing this weird squeak toy sound outside. I think it’s odd, but figure one of the neighbors had their dog out and it was rollicking on my lawn drought appropriate front yard. Then I hear some children screaming and look out the window to see their cat–the nice one–landing a paw on a squirrel. It would let the squirrel up, the squirrel would hop a foot or two away and then just hang out there…then a paw would come down on it, it would squeak, and the cycle would repeat. The dad of the neighbor kids god involved to get the cat and save the squirrel. The spectacle was pretty delightful, dazed squirrel, playful cat, beet red bald airforce functionary in cammo pants all running around my yard.

        1. Gilmore

          In the scene you depicted, i’ve added an actual “not socialized cat watching from a distance”, going, “jesus christ, what is the world coming to”.

          Meaning, he’d be like, “dood just scratch its eyes out and we can laugh our shit while he runs around in circles and then we can take our time murdering it”

          Because that’s what cats really do. They don’t kill the little guys right away, they cripple them, then chase them, because its *fun*. they basically do it as training for “real shit”. Although there is basically no ‘real shit’ left for them to need, because they get fed by humans. So the only reason they kill is for amusement.

          My outdoor cat once killed an owl. And he sat around the corpse of it, covered in blood and scars, for hours, hoping someone would see. Like, “Hey! see? all that practice pays off!” Then, a week later he blinded the neighbors dog.

          1. jesse.in.mb

            My outdoor cat once killed an owl. And he sat around the corpse of it, covered in blood and scars, for hours, hoping someone would see. Like, “Hey! see? all that practice pays off!” Then, a week later he blinded the neighbors dog.

            So the only time I’ve seen an owl out in the wild it had the same wingspan I do. I was walking on the beach, looked up at one of the lifeguard buildings and thought it was just a curiously large pigeon/gull scaring statue…then it whipped its head around, made extended eye contact and dive bombed me before screeching off into the night.

            I’m imagining that while reading your story.

          2. Gilmore

            the only time I’ve seen an owl out in the wild it had the same wingspan I do

            Yes.

            Now imagine how fucked up that is in Brooklyn. Where you have the corpse of a bird with a 5+ foot wingspan on your front door.

            it was a small grey owl. and i have no idea why it would have been in the area (eating rats?) but my fucking cat stalked the bitch and jumped him and killed him. and probably dragged the corpse back home. the bird had claws over an inch long. and the cat had its ear cut in half, and 3-4 slashes across its back and face and legs that never grew any hair back. and he was never happier. he was sitting there like, “WEEEEE ARE THE CHAMPIONS, MAH FRIEEEEEND”. It was his feline apotheosis.

          3. Suthenboy

            “3-4 slashes across its back and face and legs”

            Sounds to me like the cat wasn’t the one doing the stalking. I think the owl bit off more than he could chew.

          4. Gilmore

            yeah, its possible the other guy got the jump.

            My theory (having spent my first 10 years growing up watching how my cat behaved outdoors as something of a research project) was that they were both on the same prey, and Grey Owl swooped in and sniped my kitty’s evening play-target. And he was like, “well bro, now its you”.

            that outdoor cat died of old age at 19, and he did it by scratching on the window. when my mom let him in, he crawled to the center of the room, look around, let out a yell, and died, rolling over and sticking his feet out cartoon-style. My mom called me (i was at college) and was like, “jesus the thing was trying to say something!” Cats aren’t dogs, but they do have relationships.

        2. Lachowsky

          Cats are predators. they are mini lions. They have no mercy, nor respect for their owners.

          1. Gilmore

            yeah, you can’t really breed out the basic essentials of the species. that’s basically what i’m saying.

            which is why a ‘domesticated’ outdoor cat is a fucking murder machine. indoor cats that get let out? are basically retarded, from the cat point of view. outdoor cats keep their game at 100% until they die. Indoor cats are like … late-middle-aged men. give them foot and rub them, and they’re basically like, “Yeah, that’s cool (snore)”.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            -front page of New York Life

          3. Mustang

            My old cat was in a shelter the first five years of his life and murdered other cats by slitting them open from neck to tail. He was really friendly and adorable to me though because he’s a runt (only six pounds), so I adopted. He’s been content to sit in my lap all day and occasionally go and lick the dog’s head, only to crawl back in my lap.

            Every once in a while a bird perches outside and I see the slasher impulse come murder-chirping out.

          4. hayeksplosives

            Mr Hayeksplosives’ cat (who was 4 yrs when we married) was a giant of a tabby named Rocket, and was indoor/outdoor. That mo-fo would grab a bunny, chomp open the base of its skull, strip its brain and spinal cord out and eat them, then present the rest at the door with pride.

            I should probably add that he did this after he was declawed in front (I know, I know–we would never do it again, but back then declawing was the norm). I can’t imagine what kind of game he would have brought home if he still had front claws.

            I sent a pic of Rocket to my dad, who texted back, “Rocket, as in Peenemünde?” Rocket was a big boy.

  70. commodious spittoon

    Prey is on Steam for $30. Anyone care to recommend it?

    1. KSuellington

      Eat Prey Steamed and Love.

      1. Lachowsky

        I prefer my prey deep fat fried

        1. KSuellington

          You can’t really go wrong with eating prey fried. Love it.

          1. jesse.in.mb

            Is Julia Roberts paying you for this?

    1. Lachowsky

      *Tucks in sheets for Q*
      *kisses Q on his forehead*

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Get out of there before the weird noises start. He’ll be all grown up soon.

  71. CPRM

    So, my aunt wanted me to cook some chilli soup (midwest style chilli). Somehow something burned on bottom of the pot, and made the whole thing taste burned. Using her pots on her stove are the only times I ever burn food. I don’t know if it’s her pots or her stove.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      I’m going to throw out a diagnosis without any information whatsoever because I’m Dr Phil: Your pans are too thin and conduct heat unevenly.

      The only cure is to not make chili soup.

      1. CPRM

        I don’t cook it for myself, only for others. The thing about cookware being too thin, maybe. But my aunt buys expensive pots, pans and such; while mine are all like ones I found or came from Goodwill, so that would be kind of funny, or something.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Not that this is an exact proxy, but the weight of the pan should give you some idea.

          My DiffEQ books are boxed up in the garage. Forever. If I turn out to be wrong, ask somebody who has a bookshelf.

      2. CPRM

        The chili I cook for myself cooks for at least 4hrs, with all sorts of peppers and can be eaten with a fork.