You’d drink it, too, if she handed it to you.“Guinness is the best beer in the world.  Hands down.” – Me, 2003.
Like anything else, the more you’re exposed to different things the more likely your attitudes will change over time.  I was first exposed to Guinness in college, when a friend of mine picked up an 8-pack of Guinness Draught cans.  His dad was an F-16 pilot stationed at Aviano AB, Italy so he was a product of DODS and traveled all over Europe during his formative years.  It made him an interesting person to converse with but somehow or another he wound up in China in his late 20s.  I hear from him once every two years now, possibly when the Chicom government lets him check Facebook.  At any rate, he was fresh off a trip to Ireland with his dad and at the time we all thought it was the coolest thing in the world.  The can contained a “widget,” that charged the beer with nitrogen and when opened, will release its charge, mimicking what the beer would taste like if it came off tap.  Who else but the Irish would be at the forefront of beer drinking technology?
The problem is, at the time I didn’t know much better.  My exposure to beer was limited to Bud Light, Corona and the like.  I will credit my friend with forcing me to try something different from time to time, after all the beer is black and sometimes requires a spoon, when it’s supposed to be yellow, watery and sometimes requires a funnel and some surgical tubing. This lead to me drinking a Fat Tire, which lead to me drinking damn near everything else.
If we rag on the InBev brands for the ubiquity, their marketing campaigns and their trivial associations with pop culture, it shouldn’t be too much of a leap to come to the same conclusion about Guinness as we do with them.  Need an example?
Is Obama cool because Obama gets jacked on Guinness or is Guinness cool because Obama gets jacked on Guinness?
But it’s different, because Guinness is tasty!  Okay, maybe it is.  It has a nice texture, the head is certainly something to be desired and it is definitely better than 90% of the mass produced beers on Earth, but that is a bar low enough to trip over.  Its ingredients are to a large extent, trade secret—except for fish bladder, until recently. Because of its popularity, there is probably no beer on Earth that has as many “secrets” and “insights” that are intended mainly to make people look cool drinking it.  Such as:
Secret:  Tapping a spoon against the glass.  This is to determine whether the beer finished dissipating and the head has settled.  The glass should make a dull clacking sound when tapped with a spoon—now it’s ready!  This is silly, as the glass makes a similar sound when filled with almost any liquid.
Secret:  It’s better in Ireland.  This is mostly designed as a segue to the, “Oh you’ve been to Ireland, are the comely lasses really that comely?” conversation.  The former is somewhat true and there are a few explanations as to why.  The first being that for most Irish, drinking is a social event therefore they drink it in pubs, so it isn’t bottled.  Bottling and canning beer often requires pasteurization which can alter the taste of beer by denaturing the proteins and enzymes that you might find tasty and otherwise not get out of the can.  Also, the Irish drink so much of the stuff that once it’s brewed it’ll get consumed in a few weeks, so they might not be too concerned about it spoiling and thus won’t sully it with preservatives.  I’m not certain of the veracity of this one, since I doubt Guinness wants a lawsuit from their beer getting people sick.  Another practice in Ireland is Guinness will send a worker out to pubs with a distribution contract to purge the lines at 21 day intervals.  This ensures the lines are clean and thus do not contain foreign contaminants.   That’s what this guy is doing. Â
It sounds like a good business practice on Guinness’ part to control quality but if I’m the pub owner I might question how much beer that wastes because depending on the length of the lines, there might be a gallon or more of beer in there that I can no longer sell which means its 17 gallons/tap/year—you do the math.  The beer is fresher in Ireland, pubs are required to let Guinness maintain their taps, it may or may not be safe for drinking, and it is almost always served off the tap.  Couple this with the fact that for most Americans, it’s a special occasion they find themselves in Ireland and therefore a novelty, it’s no surprise everyone says it’s better in Ireland.
Secret: Â Drinking Guinness is good for you. Apparently, Guinness contains antioxidants and polyphenols like red wine, and in moderation the benefits outweigh the alcohol content. This is also ridiculous, as anybody drinking Guinness, like the stereotypical red wine drinker, is not going to be drinking it in moderation.
Secret: Â The Perfect Pint. Â This is a six-step process.Â
- Use a Guinness Branded Glass. Â Preferably a clean glass.
- Pour at a 45-degree angle, aim for the harp in the Guinness logo. Â Pull aft on the tap.
- Stop pouring when it reaches about halfway across the harp in the Guinness logo. Â
- Leave the glass to settle for 119.5 seconds.
- Once ready fill the remainder, pushing fore on the tap rather than aft, holding the glass plumb.
- Serve. The foam should be domed like the crystal on a well-made watch.
Not only that, there is a specific way to drink a perfect pint of Guinness and that is by drinking it in quarters.  In other words, gulping it rather than sipping it, thus leaving three foam lines in the glass.  Order a whisky between gulps 2 and 3.  DO NOT drink the whisky before finishing the beer. This whole thing sounds ridiculous to a rational observer, but I’m not about to argue with it beyond not telling me how to drink my beer.
In the end, Guinness benefits from a legend they realistically cannot live up to and a cultural status that seems to feed upon itself—like Harley-Davidson.  There are better, more flavorful stouts out there that also have the nitrogen charged widget.  Want me to name one?  Okay.
I suppose the pedants among us will point out this isn’t an Irish Stout.
Guinness Draught:  3.0/5 (If I’m being generous)
Want a good idea on how weird my friend is? He’s a fan of Saab.
I don’t think you get to do the first post dance if you comment on your own article.
*EDITOR NOTE – LOOK UP, YOU’RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!*
I waited 15 minutes after publishing time. You had your shot.
I thought we’re talking beers here.
Jewish girls don’t cry; they Saab.
Nice write up MS, I like the Youngs, It’s been so long I forgot about them, off to bev/mo!
The ’80s 900 turbo was an amazing car. So much fun to drive! And the ignition key was down by the hand brake. So Swedish!
I don’t get the love for stouts. I know a ton of people love them. God bless and enjoy. I’ll take a hefeweizen all day long.
This. Or any good lager.
*narrows gaze, hugs pint of Bourbon County and tells it that everything will be OK*
All are welcome. I like what I like and you like what you like. As I was old decades ago when I sold cars, “there’s an ass for every seat.”
I like stouts in cold weather only. On the flip side, I only like to drink hefes in the summer
^Mostly this^
Stouts and porters in cold, Kolsch and hefes in hot.
Scotch Ales…always.
Last night, I drank my last bottle of the Southern Tier chocolate orange stout you liked so much when you were last over here. As a food and drink purist, I’m not a philosophical fan of adulterants, but hey, tasty is tasty.
“For forms of
governmentbeer let fools contest, whate’re is bestadministeredtasting is best”In addition to cold weather, I’d highly recommend a good Stout any time you eat raw oysters. Food pairing heaven.
Mmm. Next week. 1/4 bushel of oysters, several different stouts. Now to figure out what to tell my wife.
I like beer, but only when I’m on this planet.
I like Irish stouts as session beers year long. They’re nice and dry, low ABV, and they’ve got a nice toasty malt flavor without much if any aftertaste. It’s not my favorite beer style, but it’s up there.
I won’t have stout month this year.
sad violin.
Whipper snappers don’t use a spoon when pouring a Guinness anymore? GFY.
Nobody really knows anymore.
Fair 'nuff.
edit fairy to the courtesy pone:
Main page tag line: “while male”.
*EDIT FAIRY IS GRATEFUL*
Yes. Lets add this as a category.
And R C is grateful, too. And by grateful, mean . . . .
Well, you can work it out.
Mex,
Any thoughts on the “Dry” Irish Stouts?
Murphy’s is better I think but overall the English versions are more to my taste. YYMV.
I had a couple of local made ones….and I was intrigued. Seems like you could play with the style a bit, and get something quite nice.
Oh, and seconded on Murphy’s.
Its the best style to experiment with of you’re homebrewing. The Irish stout really shines when you want a beer but have to drive…back to work.
Murphy’s > Guinness > Beamish, in my experience.
Both Murphy’s and Beamish are now brewed in the same brewery in Cork.
All depends on the type of stouts – really go better with foods than by themselves IMO (unlike ales).
Love the Samuel Smith Chocolate Stout.
Almost anything by Samuel Smith is pretty good though – esp for the classic brewing format, organic fruit beers, etc.
*nods vigorously in agreement about Samuel Smith’s quality*
Same here. One of the best brewers out there, full stop. Their Nut Brown AIe is archetypal.
I should qualify that – was very disappointed in the Taddy/Tadcaster Stout I tried. May try another one. Possibly a bad bottle – had that experience with Hitachino White as well.
STEVE SMI… OH…”SAMUEL” SMITH. STEVE SMITH NO KNOW HIM. STEVE SMITH MAYBE BAIT HIKER TRAP WITH “SAMUEL SMITH” BEER? HOW HIS BEER GO WITH RAPE?
Probably depends on who gets to drink the beer.
Re Samuel Smith, anyone who thinks they hate IPAs should definitely try their India Ale. British IPA doesn’t feature the aggressive hop profile of American IPA (it helps that grapefruit-y hop species like Cascades aren’t grown in the UK); it’s just a very flavorful and balanced beer.
I too am a big Samuel Smith’s fan. Pure Brewed Lager is my favorite summer hot day beer.
+2e+32 on Samuel Smiths. Sammy’s Oatmeal Stout was my first experience with beer that doesn’t suck, and it was a real eye-opener about what beer could be, after the Bud Light and Miller being swilled by my contemporaries in the
mean streetsresidence halls of northwest Ohio.Samuel Smith’s Brewery is just up the road from where I am. Sam’s beer in Sam’s pubs is dirt cheap. I remember getting eight pints in a round of Old Brewery Bitter at the Angel in Leeds and still having change from ÂŁ15.
Not the best beer in the world, but not bad either. Especially at the price.
STEVE SMITH’s brewery, on the other hand…
Are you certain about that gallon per tap line? A 1-inch diameter line (much wider than normal) would have to be over 24′ long.
Then again, I’ve never tended bar.
I’m just going by what I read on the subject. That can vary by bar. The point is there will be a quantifiable amount of beer you can’ sell.
The avalanche of rats leaving the foundering SS Hillary is taking some tidbits with them.
Memo Reveals Details of Hillary Clinton-DNC Deal
But that’s totes OK, because:
Apparently, this was supposed to provide cover, rather than just confirming that DNC and Hillary agreed before the primary that she was going to win. I mean, if she didn’t, what was the DNC going to do? Give her back her money and fire her people? Sure.
The good news is that this means we’re going to be rid of a bunch of Democrats who will have mysterious accidents and suicides. I’m going to keep the body count up until Hillary clinches the nomination again in 2020. It’s still her turn.
Speaking of local stuff tasting better locally, when I used to go to Tsing Tao on business, I would always drink the eponymous beer. Here, it’s sort of OK commercial beer. There, it tastes like Grade A Pilsner. Formula? Shipping? Who knows.
Yeah, that goes for a lot of things. The local favorite soda is Sundrop (a citrus soda). Everyone around here knows the glass bottles from the local distributor taste better than the plastic bottles or cans available nationally. (I don’t remember if it’s actually true or not, haven’t been able to drink it for over a decade. It is a high caffeine soda and I’m pretty much allergic to caffeine.)
Some global beer brands you buy outside of their locality will be brewed under licence by a brewer in the country the beer is sold in. Certainly the case for stuff like Coors and Miller here in the UK (both are brewed in Burton-on-Trent). I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case for the Tsingtao you had. Tsingtao was, before WW1, the German equivalent of Hong Kong, and the brewery was set up by German expats to brew German lager for other Germans.
Drinking premium Guatemalan beer while waiting for the good beer to chill down. Monte Carlo is about correctly priced at $10/12. It’s not Busch Light, but $1/bottle would have left me feeling like I overplayed.
Nice article. I haven’t been down the stout rabbit hole in years, but maybe soon…
The beer commonly known as “Turtle Beer”?
Is it? I just saw it at the grocery store and rolled the dice
I have the wrong banana republic. Turtle Beer is from San Salvador. Caguama. I love their food pairing recommendations: http://www.caguamabeer.com
I’ve had that one. Great beer to have when you go fishing. I have no reason why I say that.
Keeps you hydrated. Great if you’re out in the sun all day.
“Drinking premium Guatemalan beer”
Let me guess, the bottles are brown and really short?
Oh, bravo.
I like San Lucas. The beer is so-so, but I like the happy, frolicking swordfish picture on the bottle.
You bring up Obama in a discussion about Guinness. Please go out to the yard, find the hose, attach a metal sprinkler head and cut that off 24″ down. Firmly grasp the hose at the end opposite the sprinkler head and then proceed to flail yourself.
I’ll tell you when to stop.
This meme combines Guinness, Obama, and economics in a satisfying combination.
https://media.makeameme.org/created/inflation-is-a-mv6nsv.jpg
I’d have used Jerome Bettis, but it turns out normal people like Jerome Bettis.
Well , they are both black and white.
“that HFA personnel will be consulted and have joint authority over strategic decisions over the staffing, budget, expenditures, and general election related communications, data, technology, analytics, and research.”
Further evidence of their commitment to rule of man vs rule of law. With her all the way.
Killian’s makes a decent Irish stout:
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/306/88510/
Irish stouts are good, but sometimes oatmeal stouts are better. I liked The Poet from New Holland and Slow Elk from Big Sky Brewing.
The Poet is one of my favorite beers of any style. Samuel Smith makes a pretty good Oatmeal Stout as well as a good Nut Brown Ale. I love Stouts but have never been a big fan of Guinness. I was more of a Killian’s guy back in the day as far as Irish beers go. I haven’t had one of those in a very long time though.
I see the SS Nut Brown has already gotten some props
Big Sky is awesome. They make one of my favorite Brown Ales.
That would be Moose Drool, yes? A great beer.
I liked the Guiness Black lager when I tasted it, but I haven’t seen it around here for a while.
I’m headed to BevMo in a little bit. I’ll keep my eyes peeled.
I don’t even know where to begin with this:
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/11/the-trolley-problem-will-tell-you-nothing-useful-about-morality
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There are plenty of moral questions we don’t discuss nearly enough: Is there a moral obligation to help refugees? Is being rich in a time of poverty justifiable? Do you have an obligation to speak out about sexual harassment? What should you do if you know someone is being abused but they explicitly ask you not to say or do anything about it? Are there any justifiable reasons for the existence of borders? Does capitalism unfairly exploit workers? Should you lie to protect an undocumented person? (The correct answers are: Yes, No, Yes, It’s Complicated, No, Yes, Yes.)
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The trolley problem is repulsive, because it encourages people to think about playing God and choosing which people to kill.
…
It is escapist, in that it allows us to comfortably drift into the realm of the implausible and ridiculous, so that we do not have to confront disturbing truths about our real-world moral failings.
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This is really interesting coming from a guy who thinks the govt should confiscate people’s kidneys at random to solve the donor shortage.
Could Government-Mandated Kidney Donation be a Good Thing?
Think of the horrors this guy would unleash if he had any kind of power.
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It may appear illegitimate to jeopardize one person’s health to secure the life of another. But the risks in this case are small; a kidney transplant is a simple operation that leaves the patient with all of their faculties intact. Asking citizens to donate a kidney is therefore no greater a burden than asking them to serve on a jury. (In some cases it may even be less so; trials can drag on for months while transplant operations have a short recovery time.) Furthermore, Americans are already willing to impose health risks on some for the well-being of others; this is the reasoning behind the military draft. If the country can reserve the right to take citizens’ lives in order to serve a vague “national interest,” surely it can perform a minor surgery in order to prevent thousands of very real deaths.
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Greg Mankiw suggests that a person’s “self-ownership” stands in the way of the practice. But in order accept this, we must allow a purely abstract, fictitious interest to triumph over thousands of actual human lives. Mankiw is asking us to prioritize the imagined self-ownership of some over the very real self-preservation of others. Anyone who argues this believes that people ought to die in order to preserve her own personal convenience.
At the personal level, it is almost certainly morally indefensible for an individual not to donate his or her kidney. After all, a life is saved at relatively little cost to one’s self. But the gross selfishness of withholding one’s organs does not seem a sufficient motivator for people to voluntarily close the transplant gap. (I have not donated a kidney myself, despite knowing full well that not doing so is killing someone.) More vigorous measures must therefore be taken.
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“I won’t do it of my own free will, so someone needs to force me to! And force everyone else to as well!”
“I’ve noticed you’ve gained some weight. Would it help if I started jogging?”
http://dilbert.com/strip/1996-11-26
Earlier this morning, I was watching some NBC News clips on the roku. There was one about how lax urban planning causes hurricanes and wildfires. Well… makes the effects worse, anyway. They used all the weary shopworn progressive talking points about Houston and their steadfast refusal to control growth or manage development; they don’t even have zoning! Northern California came in for a scolding because they let people build on private… errr, “fire prone” land. If only they had more land use restrictions, nobody could live anywhere, and California would be a paradise on Earth.
The quality of the writing and overall slavish devotion to the cult of Top Men makes me think it was produced as some sort of “teaching aid” for use in the government schools. More, and more obedient, idiots are being churned out every goddam day.
There are plenty of moral questions we don’t discuss nearly enough
WRONG.
Brooksy, be careful while reading stuff from there. It is powerful, powerful derp.
(I have not donated a kidney myself, despite knowing full well that not doing so is killing someone.) More vigorous measures must therefore be taken.
Unsurprising.
How’s that revolution coming along?
Can’t hear the revolution.
#winning?
Looks like the US Military has already surrendered. They’re nowhere in sight. So within a minute if watching the guy filming comes up from this girl from behind and his cameras totally focused close up on her ass. Then I guess he remembered it was live and raised it to some sign on her backpack.
Something I found surprising: Guinness is not especially high in calories. I used to drink it fairly regularly. One of the reasons I stopped was because I was afraid I’d end up weighing six metric tons. Apparently, the Guinness was not the problem.
A pint of Guinness has fewer calories than a pint of skim milk.
Pretty low ABV.
125cal/12 oz serving if I remember correctly. A full flavored pilsner on the other hand will run around 140-150/12 oz.
Yes, I’ve counted calories from time to time.
low in calories and low in alcohol. you can pretty much treat it like water.
Another beauty, Mr. Sharpshooter!
This was my favorite line:
This is also ridiculous, as anybody drinking Guinness, like the stereotypical red wine drinker, is not going to be drinking it in moderation.
Truth.
I usually only use Guinness for Shepherd’s Pie. Gordilocks sent me a nice oatmeal stout – I’ll stick to those.
I’m cheap. I don’t drink much more than a glass of wine with dinner each night. Definitely not two full glasses.
I considered buying some yesterday to make beer cheese. Instead, I’m going to grill/smoke some wings and abstain tonight because my guests are LDS. Fight night at my house!
The most acute case of Trump Derangement Syndrome I have ever seen:
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/american-psychosis-3/
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Reality is under assault. Verbal confusion reigns. Truth and illusion have merged. Mental chaos makes it hard to fathom what is happening. We feel trapped in a hall of mirrors. Exposed lies are answered with other lies. The rational is countered with the irrational. Cognitive dissonance prevails. We endure a disquieting shame and even guilt.
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The lies fly out of the White House like flocks of pigeons
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It is an avalanche of absurdities.
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It is incredible he makes a living as a writer. Every column is like a very long beatnik poetry slam. Where are your bongos, Chris?
Vhyrus and some of the other folks here might like this. Looks impressive to me – I’d love to try 3 gun sometime.
https://twitter.com/proxcee/status/926826068518080513
Caution. Once you start your wallet will get thinner. It is addictive.
“”I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of prog voices suddenly cried out in terror.”
OK, finally. I finished a day’s worth of gun cleaning. I have a way to go yet. I started on the shallow end this morning…single actions.
https://postimg.org/image/x7rmryv7n/
Yes, I am trying to make you bastards jealous.
Never saw the point of a handgun that can’t fit in a pocket. Love my trusty .357 snub nose. And my lever action mare’s leg is convenient for my short arms.
It fits in a holster, leaving your hands free to use other tools.
Nice layout, Suthen. Not much use for wheelguns, myself, but I appreciate the aesthetics of the single action. In retrospect, I should have gotten a Super Blackhawk instead of a Super Redhawk.
So the anti-fact revolution. First of all the only places where they will work are leftist already and the only way they can oust Trump would be if they could shut a couple of cities down so I’m not sure how that will work?
Auto-correct, or deliberate pun?
Auto-correct alas.
fast times at jihad high
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(CNN)Yemen’s air force targeted King Khalid International Airport in the Saudi capital of Riyadh on Saturday with a ballistic missile, according to Yemen’s Houthi-controlled Defense Ministry.
But the missile was intercepted over northeast Riyadh, Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Defense said in a statement carried on Saudi-backed Al-Arabiya television.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/04/middleeast/saudi-arabia-ballistic-missile/index.html
Stop. Yemen has an Air Force?
Ballistic missile I believe.
“Yemen has an Air Force?”
Yeah. It got shot down a today.
oopsy- scratch that “a”
Seems like I’ve been making more typos lately.
“the attack was conducted using a Yemeni-made, long-range ballistic missile called the Burqan 2H.”
Please tell me there’s a meme for this already.
Turns out it’s just a copy of a Russian copy of a V2.
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The R-1 rocket (NATO reporting name SS-1 Scunner, Soviet code name SA11, GRAU index 8A11) was a short-range ballistic missile manufactured in the Soviet Union based[2] on the German V-2 rocket. Even though it was a copy, it was manufactured using Soviet industrial plants and gave the Soviets valuable experience which later enabled the USSR to construct its own much more capable rockets.
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I was hoping for a bottle rocket with a beard and a turban.
Burqan just means “lightning” in Arabic. Well, maybe “thunderbolt” is better translation. Burqan shares the same root as the word for lighting (b-r-q).
The burqa’ (garment) has a different root (b-r-q-ayn) . It means “veil” and is related to the word for “patch, sew”.
This is the part where you pause and say “There’s a can.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkQ82buqXoc
US woman jailed after tweet called insulting to Zimbabwe ruler
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/04/africa/zimbabwe-american-citizen-mugabe-tweet/index.html
The pic in the is amusing. African dictators have the best wacky outfits.
This is like that idiot American woman in Peru that got mixed up with The Shining Path. I have a hard time working up sympathy for someone who essentially put themselves in a foreign prison. When in a country that is not your own keep your fucking mouth shut and dont even spit on the sidewalk unless you see everyone else doing it.
If I could only drink one style, it would probably be this.
Amen.
If I could only drink one style, it would be wine. I’m not certain if I’d pick white or red, though.
Weird as hell but great reveal. Sounds like another great album though – the last 2 have been solid. And frankly (although they are Canadian), I love combination of a Jew and an Arab in a techno band. ;p
OK, just got back from BevMo. The guy talked me into Bell’s Two Hearted Ale. First time I’ve tried it.
Probably the best IPA out there.
Yes. My desert island beer (which of course makes no sense, but whatever).
Also a good one to introduce newbies to hops.
My desert island beer is Saison DuPont.
One of my favorite local beers is the El Duderino White Russian Milk Stout by Center of the Universe Brewing Co.
What’s a good newbie’s guide to beers beyond the major brand stuff? Asking for a friend.*
* – I don’t have any friends **
** – Which means, if I make proper use of a beer drinking guide, I’ll be getting drunk all by myself***
*** – I’m okay with that
Get a Dundee or a Kona variety pack. They always have a nice mix of styles. Many supermarkets and liquor stores have build your own 6 pack sections. Here are the styles I recommend trying with an example:
Stout- Guinness
Lager- Sapporo
Pilsner- Lagunitas Pils
Porter- Edmund Fitzgerald
Pale Ale- Boddington’s
Amber- Alaska Amber
Bock- Dundee Bock
Scotch Ale- Old Chub
Brown Ale- Newcastle
Oh, forgot to mention
Scotch Ale- Robert the Bruce
Brown Ale- Moose Drool
**** Don’t listen to Derpetologist.
You’re just mad because I didn’t include any IPAs.
There are so many good ones!
IPAs pair well with Mexican food. Seems like they taste better in the summer. I’ll drink it over light beer, but that’s about it.
Forgot to mention that Sierra Nevada also makes a variety of styles and it’s available in most states.
IPAs pair well with Mexican food
Disagree. In my experience, mixing hoppy beer with spicy food makes the food exponentially spicier.
Just started a few years ago myself – couldn’t stand beer for 15 years after college – including most of my military career.
If you’re near a place with lots of import options – try anything by Samuel Smith – lots of good variety for each of the major types of beer. Also, look for a mixed 6-pack of Belgians – ie. Gulden Draak, Piraat, etc.
“Cheap” domestics: Yuengling (lager), Kona Longboard (Lager/Ale), Sam Adams, Left Hand Breweing Milk Stout (should have mentioned this earlier in the thread – also a brewery I am consistently pleased with), Founders, etc.
I can only drink milk stout sometimes. And usually only one. it’s so sweet.
Flavor is pretty neutral to me – don’t notice sweetness compared to something like SS Chocolate Stout, but I like it because it’s comparatively smooth.
That’s a good example. Maybe I just had one too many nights of drinking nothing but lefthands milkstout.
Well, yeah, normally only drink one at a time – not a session beer like Longboard or Belhaven.
Longboard was the worst beer I’d ever had at the time I tasted it.
Even Walmart and Food Lion here in C’ville have “build your own 6-pack now” – and consistent options over 5% too. I tend to use beeradvocate.com on my phone to get quick review/recommendations if I’m trying to decide whether or not to buy.
I respect Yuengling a lot for their history, but … either their quality control has gotten a lot worse since I lived in PA, or my taste in beer has improved. I loved it in college, but find it borderline-undrinkable now.
Another one I forgot about – if you live anywhere around VA – Devil’s Backbone Vienna Lager is an amazing session beer – extremely drinkable.
I second Dr. Derp’s recommendation for a variety pack. Sam Adams will put out seasonal packs from time to time.
Breweries where pretty much everything they make is worth trying: Sierra Nevada (CA), Deschutes (OR), Bell’s (MI), Smuttynose (NH).
I’m not the biggest fan of the West Coast “let’s compete to see who can make the most overwhelmingly alcoholic and bitter beer” approach, but if you’re going to try it, do it right: try the West Coast IPA and the Barleywine from Green Flash.
Guinness For Strength
Brown Ale- Moose Drool
That shit is disgusting.
And yet it has a higher score on BeerAdvocate than Guinness.
Plus there are little quips on the inside of the bottle caps.
*Pulls TULPA alarm*
I like Kirin.
It’s great before 9AM, but not after noon.
it has a higher score on BeerAdvocate than Guinness.
Which means absolutely nothing to me.
YMMV
It’s neither here nor there but I found a list of the top rated beers at Beer Advocate.
As most of us would have suspected, ABV plays a pretty big part. Four out of the top five are Imperial Stouts – with the winner at 12%!!
I’ll try some more, but I just can’t get into an Imperial Stout the way I can with a Belgian or Trappiste.
Yeah, I take “beer geek” sites like BA with a grain of salt. My tastes are much more “Old World” (English ales, German/Czech lagers, Belgian strong ales and saisons), and as such I tend to like balanced beers a lot more than many of the beers the “connoisseurs” love. (E.g., I think the Pliny beers are disgusting, and while I admire the creativity at Dogfish Head, I don’t really like their beers much.)