*Okay, no one said that. But this is the story of my getting into the pot business (sorry, no Mexicans and only tangential references to ass sex) and commentary on regulatory issues from a libertarian perspective.
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Organic, Hydroponic, Outdoor, Indoor (Why weed, philosophical considerations)
My career has been in IT, Operations, and Finance for Food & Beverage manufacturing. I’ve got a bunch of certifications that prove I can manage a project and make improvements and create models. But the winter of 2016 was one of discontent. I realized that if I continued working in a cubicle / office at a large corporation, I was going to splatter someone’s brains all over the beige fabric cube walls. And since I am too ornery for suicide and too pretty for prison, I decided to get out of Cubeville. My performance had suffered, and I wasn’t fitting culturally at work anyway, so when they offered me a chance to leave, I took it.
My business partner is a friend from the kink community. His career has mostly been IT startups. And two years ago he started doing research into becoming a canna-business owner. When I lost my last job, he invited me over to hang out, showed me the operation, and then talked to me about my plans. At that point I wanted to simply take a month off; period. I haven’t had a vacation except for family visits, in over 5 years.
I started helping with his small med grow just to have something to do and get out of the house. The month elapsed and we started discussing it in earnest. What it would take to get involved money wise, plans, the pot market itself, the various options and strategies. I started thinking about it more and doing some of my own research. I had, by that time, decided I wanted to start my own business and this seemed like a good opportunity.
I’m not a pot user. In 42 years old and I’ve used pot maybe 10 times, all within the last few months. But that’s okay. I see its uses for both recreation and medicine as valid. One needs pleasures in one’s life, and while I think pursuing them in some moderation is better, others may have different priorities. I think that whatever risks come with using marijuana are small enough and manageable enough that I am satisfied morally about selling it as a legal product. Were, say, heroin to be legalized, I wouldn’t feel the same way as there does not seem to be a way for one to use that drug and stay productive. That was critical for my personal decision making – can people use pot and still function or even improve their functioning? I think so.
I also realized I was enjoying myself when I was helping out my friend (and now business partner). We were building things, figuring out how to get things working, digging in the dirt. I’d come home tired and dirty and happy. I spent 20 years trying to get away from anything agricultural because I grew up in a rural area and thought success was wearing a 3 piece suit. But success is enjoying your life and the people in it.
On a business level, cannabis is at an interesting place. I worked in the craft beer industry for a few years and investigated the craft distilling industry as a potential business and I found the history informative. Those families that acquired distributor licenses when the 22nd Amendment was repealed have businesses now that that are worth 100s of millions of dollars. They got in early and they are still reaping the rewards generations later. It’s also interesting to look at wine in the late 70s – early 80s, craft beer in the 80s and early 90s, and craft distilling since the early 2000s. The early movers into those markets are doing well and have strong businesses. Now’s the time for getting into the legal cannabis market.
- Growing Cannabis; Clone to Flower (Startup Life, Entrepreneurship)
I didn’t chose the startup life, the startup life choose me. I use that quip sometimes when I have a play partner ask when I can tie her up again and I have to beg off due to running the business. It’s true that running your own business can suck; your boss is usually a dick that rarely wants to give you any time off, and sometimes the sonovabitch doesn’t even pay you, you have to pay him.
My wife and I have always been white collar folks, making excellent money. Further, we lived well within our means and don’t have kids. Which translated to us rarely having to worry about money. We made way more than we spent, even after savings, so we had a huge cushion. Part of being an entrepreneur is that I’ve had to give that up a little bit. My wife still has her white collar job and makes enough to support us easily. But that carries its own struggles with it.
First and foremost I was brought up to, at the least, do my fair share for my family, to be the breadwinner. Yes, yes, I’m a cis-het shitlord. Whatever. So there’s some ego issues with being dependent on the wife’s income for the bills. Also, since she is fascinated by arcane Jewish rules despite not being a Jewess, she claims that since I am technically unemployed, I owe her sex twice a day. I do my best to fulfill that obligation despite not being Jewish, so that keeps her happy with the arrangement. Be that as it may, it’s also a calculated risk, that if this hits as well as it could, in a few years the business will support us in a way that would mean a lifestyle of wealth and time to enjoy that wealth. In the meantime, we are budgeting and making sure we continue to live within our means and it is well worth it.
And that calculated risk I mention does have a huge potential payoff. This is something an entrepreneur has to learn to deal with; risk calculation. Which sounds kind of scary, but is fairly simple if you understand a little math. What’s the potential worst case scenario? What’s the best case? What are the odds of each? Apply dollar amounts to the first two and multiply them by the answer to the last question. If there are things you can do to improve the odds adjust for that, then compare your values and that should help make the decision.
I don’t want to get into specifics of how much I’ve invested, but I’ll walk through the math. I’ll also talk a little about where the investment money came from. We moved to Portland 4 years ago and bought a house at a relative low in the market. A couple of years later we moved out to the suburbs but kept the original house. Due to the house’s location, when we sold it this spring, we made a substantial sum of money. The profit was about 5x of what we expected to make in that period of time. Even after paying off some remaining grad school loans, tucking some away to fatten up the retirement account, the amount needed to invest was less than the remainder. It’s essentially a large windfall, or as I refer to it, we’re playing with house money.
So even if we lose that money it doesn’t damage us long term. There’s an opportunity cost, of course. We could have put that money into paying down our existing house, or invested it in some other enterprise. But anything we do with it would have some risk. The other potential cost is the salary I’m forgoing for the next two years while I try to launch this. That’s my downside number. Let’s call it $100k just to use a round number.
The upside, of course, is if the operation is successful. Since the partnership is 50/50, I simply need to calculate what the expected revenue will be over the next two years and what the profit is going to be. Right now, even the really poorly run ops are making about a margin that is about twice what a well-run food manufacturer makes, and about 25% more than a well-run alcohol producer. For the sake of discussion we’ll put the amount of money I can expect from the profits at $1.5mm. Again, not a real number, but it is proportional to the real number. This also ignores the longer term, and options for integrating the vertical by spinning up a processor and our own retail outlets, as well as some other strategies we have for expansion.
Alright, the risk is losing $100k versus winning $1.5mm. So what are the odds of each happening? That’s the real important part of the decision. Let’s assume the failure rate is 90%. In reality about 67% of cannabis businesses in Oregon have failed. The vast majority were due to failure to comply with either reporting requirements or basic shit like tracking your employees’ hours and properly paying them, which even some fresh off the boat immigrant can manage when starting a restaurant. So that failure rate is low, but for determining expected value, I think it’s a good number.
Multiply $100k times .9 and that’s $90k. Multiple $1.5mm times .10 and you get $150k. Subtract the $90k from the $150k and my expected value is $60k more than if I don’t take the gamble. That makes it a risk worth taking. That ignores that it is difficult to value the experience of trying to start my own business and the freedom and flexibility it provides me.
Any entrepreneur needs to think in those terms, and unless you are starting a lifestyle business, you also need to think of terms of longer term potential. My guess, taking in the past closest benchmark industries (alcohol, primarily), looking at the current demand, and at the future possibilities is that this can be huge.
The market for legal recreational and medical marijuana is massive. In Oregon at least, the demand is higher than the current level of supply. That gap is closing, but it’s going to take a few years for several reasons. Most of the early entrants were black market or med growers who had been growing enough to make a house payment. They are good growers and make some excellent weed. But their business sense is limited. They’d get hooked up with an outside investor that had the money, but no knowledge of growing or interest in being intimately involved. They could smell the opportunity, but didn’t want to be heavy lifting investors. So they wrote a check for $1mm or $2mm. And in a year, they are out of business because the grower burned through the cash. Or they can’t comply with the regulations.
We think our competitive advantage is that my partner and I have grown the product and developed our basic process along with an experienced grower. We believe that we can bring an analytic, process based approach to growing that few others can. Which will allow us to get big enough so that when the market hits saturation and prices start falling down to commodity levels, we have higher margins than average and are able to weather those changes while also scooping up smaller grows. The margins decreasing will only help us as it puts pressure on less well-run organizations.
We also plan to invest heavily in vertical integration. Once the first Tier 1 is fully operational, we’ll open a processor. Then we’ll start the franchise part of the business. There are lots of good growers that either don’t have the cash to get the land, or don’t have much business sense and know it. While we can’t own more than one license of the same type, we can lease the land and provide services to other growers and/or investors. We’re working on the details of that, but it lets us expand legally. Within five years we expect to have our Tier 1 grow, a piece of 3-5 more Tier 1 grows, a processor, and some retail outlets and a testing lab all under our umbrella. We have specific landmarks and decision points along the way. But we are building an enterprise.
Which brings us to exit strategy. Which is venture-speak for ‘how are you going to really get paid off for this investment?’ Are you going to sell it to someone else? Keep running and growing it? Own it but let someone else run it? The answer is; we have plans for each eventuality. I’ll talk more about this in the last section.
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Medium and Nutrition (Specifics about Weed growing)
Cannabis is a weed. So it should be easy to grow. And that’s true. You really only need some dirt, some water, and some light and you can grow a marijuana plant. But there is a difference between growing a single plant and running a farm, both in terms of quantity and quality. It takes skill, art, and science to grow large quantities of high quality product in a given space. Like any other similar enterprise, it’s all about yield. And keeping costs down for each pound you produce.
So every ounce of marijuana starts as either a seed or a cutting. Either way, once the seed or the cutting has roots, it’s placed in a growth medium. That can be soil or hydroponic. We grow in a soil like medium called Tupur. It’s made primarily from shredded coconut shells. It provides a medium for the roots of the plant, but no nutritional value like various other types of soil. The advantage of that is that we can feed more often than if it were in soil and at lower PPM of the nutrients.
That helps in the next stage which is vegetation. The objective in this stage is to grow the plant and strengthen it to prepare it to go into flower. Flowering is determined by the number of hours of darkness the plant experiences each day. The plant will stay in veg as long as it has more than about 13 hours of sunlight. There are some differences between strains and the easy way is to just keep them under the right kind of lights 18-24 hours a day. The longer in veg the bigger the individual plants become and the more they’ll yield when they go into flower. It also allows for different styles of growing; trees (tall), pineapple (bushy), or various types of trellising. There is a trade-off; the longer spent in veg, the longer until you get your final flower. So there’s some balancing we’re still figuring out on that.
Once it is time to go into flower, the grower needs to see that the plants are in total darkness for a certain amount of time. Usually 12-13 hours. This is the natural state of things in the fall when the plants normally flower on their own. But it can be induced artificially outdoors by having green houses with systems for blacking out the green house, or indoors by simply turning off the lights. Flower usually lasts for about 8-9 weeks. Though for some pure sativa strains that time can as much as double.
In flower is where the bud begins to form and grow. The signs one is looking for are solid, dense buds, for the trichs or sugar on the leaves close to the buds and the buds themselves, and looking for other signs on the buds related to the color and density in the buds. There is some art to this and if you harvest too soon it can impact the levels of THC and CBDs, as well as the taste and the quality of the smoke. Harvest too soon and the smoke can be not as smooth or be “speedy” meaning you get amped up instead of relaxed.
When the bud is ready, it is time to harvest. This involves cutting down the plants so that the buds can be dried and cut away from the branches and remove the unwanted stems and leaves. The bud also needs to cure a little while to make it the smoke smooth and maximize flavor. Each bud has to be trimmed and the old school way is to hand trim it so you leave just the right amount. For large harvests though, machines are used. Slightly lower quality, but much more efficient even than orphans. Once the cure is finished, it is time to sell.
Selling for a producers is wholesale. You’re usually selling pounds at a time to dispensaries. There’s some sales effort involved, but much of that is simply taking samples to the buyer at a dispensary, smoking it with them, and then arranging the order and delivery. The three biggest factors are the amount of THC and CBDs, the way it looks when displayed (bag appeal), and lastly how it actually smokes.
- Insect & Pest Prevention (Taxes, Regulation, and Weed)
Regulations surrounding weed are interesting. They fall broadly into three types in the state I’m in. First are the types of license, second are zoning related for getting your license, and the rest are operational regulations for keeping your license and being able to sell your product legally. The industry is over regulated, but then, virtually every industry is. And in some ways, pot is less regulated than beer, wine, and liquor if you put aside Federal laws. It’s also less regulated than the food manufacturing industry. The regs are cumbersome and immoral because FYTW and god forbid people actually /enjoy/ themselves, but that’s true for many products. In this section I’ll try to review the basic regulations and how they interfere liberty and some of the unintended consequences I think they bring about.
License Types – One can have either a med license or a recreational license. With med you pay an extra fee on your med card and designate a grower. Depending on where you are, you are allowed a certain number of plants in flower at any given time. There is no real limit on the number not in flower or on the amount produced. You can stack cards, meaning get someone with a card to designate you as a grower, but there are limits on the maximum number of cards you can stack. Other than that, there is not much regulation or reporting required. And if someone reports you, the cops have to call and schedule an inspection when it is convenient for you.
Recreational is a different game. It is more complex and brings with it more reporting and regulatory oversight. But that plant limit goes away and is replaced with square footage limits. In Oregon, there are no limits on the number of people who can have a recreational cannabis license for any of five categories; Producer, Processor, Wholesaler, Retailer, or Research. The same person or group can have all five if they like. And there are different types of sub-businesses. For example, a seed bank is considered a producer. A lab is considered a processor. A home delivery service is a retailer. The exact same ownership group can’t own more than one license of the same type, but there are ways to burn that bridge.
Zoning – The way zoning plays into is that each county is able to have its own zoning regulations related to the various types of licenses. So they can designate various zoning types as allowing only producers and whether it is only indoor or outdoor producers. Any interesting side thing is that the difference between indoor and outdoor is whether the structure has lights. So if you have a greenhouse with no lights, it is an outdoor grow. If you add lights, you are an indoor grow. The reason that matters is both zoning and that a Tier 1 license (the current largest) allows for 40k sq ft of canopy in flower outdoors. Indoors each sq ft of canopy counts for 4 of those sq ft. So effectively it is 10k sq ft. of indoor space allowed. Or you can do a mix of say 5k indoor and 20k outdoor.
There are also zoning laws related to minimum property size, how close to the property line the grow can be, what kind of odor remediation has to be done, visibility of lights, and the kind of fencing and access control that are required. Those all vary for the different kinds of rec licenses. There are other oddities such as you can have a Producer license for land that is considered Agriculture only and it will satisfy that requirement, but you can’t count the income from that toward your tax status. This is one area where the zoning is slightly more complicated than other agri businesses.
Operational – The real regulations come in as part of applying for the license and keeping it. The biggest are all around reporting. The weed has to be tracked individually by plant, including the state of life it is in, and any changes made to it. So, for example, plant 001 has to be trimmed. You have to account for the weight of how much of that is disposed, and if any clones are made from it, you have to track that as well. Once harvested the weight of the flower and any waste or other byproducts have to be tracked. All those numbers have to be reported to the agency monitoring compliance, the OLCC. When you sell any product to another rec license holder, you have to track that as well, so that there is ‘seed to sale’ visibility and prevent weed going into the black market. This is actually common in the food, beverage, and alcohol industries, at least the tracking if not the reporting.
To add to that, the entire grow operation has to be covered by cameras that run 24/7. Again, this is to make sure you aren’t slipping stuff out the back door into the black market. The recordings have to be made available to the OLCC at their request for spot checks. It’s also security for the rec operation as it helps with dealing with any thefts. Slipping stuff out the back door is really dumb. As we all know, the back door is for going in. *ahem* When people do this, they are risking 100s of thousands of dollars of revenue for a couple of extra grand by selling to the black market.
The last of the big three are testing requirements. For every 15 pounds of product, you have to take random samples and send them to a lab for testing. The testing provides proof that you haven’t used any banned pesticides and that your weed is ostensibly safe to consume (compared to literal Mexican ditch weed, most of the stuff on the banned list could be safely used). It also provides information on THC and CBD content that has to be placed on labels for packaging.
There are some other minor things related; you can’t have barb wire on your fencing, you can only have so many visitors per year to a grow operation, and a few other things. But the other three are the big ones. Compared to other industries, they are a little intrusive, but not as complicated.
From a libertarian perspective, the zoning, the size limits and the like are all ridiculous. Those are things which can be worked out by individuals. The monitoring to prevent the black market is, of course, ridiculous. Any adult who wants to buy should be able to buy however much they want from anyone willing to sell it. And the testing reqs are things the free market would demand anyway. So they simply add cost to the entire enterprise without much real value.
- Harvest, Trim, Cure and Sell (Where I think this is leading)
From a macro perspective, I think full legalization of marijuana / cannabis is on the horizon. While Sessions has a hard-on about it, I am not particularly worried that he’ll go after legal producers in states where it recreational is legal. Oregon makes far too much tax money from weed to cooperate if the feds go after their legal producers. But the state does have incentive to cooperate in going after black market producers. Which allows Sessions to beat off about stopping the demon weed and the states to force more of the black market producers toward getting legal so they can get that sweet, sweet lucre. Extortion 101.
Beyond that, the real question is when it will be removed from Schedule 1. My estimate is sometime in the next 8-12 years. We’re down to only 2 states where marijuana possession is fully criminalized. All the rest range from being fully legal for both medical and recreational (8 states) to simple decriminalization. The holdouts are really the Midwest and the south east. My guess is that once Texas and/or Florida allows rec or one of the south east states (NC, SC, VA, TN, AL, GA) allows med and/or rec that’ll be the final nail in the coffin.
There’s also growing pressure from various corporate interests. Monsanto is huge in the space at providing lights and nutrients and the rest of the infrastructure and equipment. There is interest from the tobacco companies as well, but they can’t get involved until it is legal nationally. Pharma is opposed at the moment, but I think if you ever see Merck or Bayer get onboard that could help speed up the change.
As I mentioned earlier, cannabis wholesale prices are going to fall as more competitors enter the market. As that happens, you’ll see the standard consolidation. The enterprises that are well run and forward looking will start opening operations in new states that open up their laws. They won’t be able to transfer between states, but they’ll be well positioned to gobble up the smaller operations that have good growers, but poor business practices. And the ones that survive that sorting out and are large enough to be operating profitably once national legalization happens will be acquisition targets for the Monsantos and Mercks and RJRs.
I don’t think the regulations will ever be less than they are now. Unfortunately, I simply don’t see a libertarian moment occurring that will bring the overall level of regulation down. The best the cannabis industry can hope for is a similar level of regulation to the alcohol industry, unfortunately. Which proves we don’t live in the best of all possible worlds, but it would be an improvement over the current situation.
Thank you for this. Seriously fascinating insight into the industry.
It’s quite revealing what articles you are the first poster to. And then your comments kind of stop shortly after four in the afternoon. Hmmmm….
(just messing with you)
Hah! xD What a weird set of coincidences!
But seriously, I do work from 8 to 5, or you would probably be right on the money. Lol.
You’re welcome.
Do hemp sales account for any part of your plan?
Not really. Our planned method of growing means we’re going to focus on smaller plants for quick flips. Those stalks don’t make as good a hemp fiber as the tall trees. We’ve considered it though.
Good article, may sessions never hear your name..
Really nice article. Well written with a lot of great information. As someone who is also trying to escape Cubeville, I tip my hat to you sir. Unfortunately for me, Indiana will probably be the last state where weed will be legal.
Illinois will take longer. The liquor wholesalers have this totally tied up, not that we have corrupt control-freak politicians who would be swayed by that, nossirree.
I think SC will be the last holdout.
Also, since she is fascinated by arcane Jewish rules despite not being a Jewess, she claims that since I am technically unemployed, I owe her sex twice a day. I do my best to fulfill that obligation despite not being Jewish
If you need any assistance, please let me know.
In any case, as a former winemaker, much of this looks very familiar- even the economics and regulatory hurdles seem similar. Really great article, and I very much want to keep up with how this progresses.
I would like to see numbers in states that have legal rec. weed on how much the market is supplied by legal vendors versus illegal ones. I think that the regulatory schemes mentioned in this article drive up the price of legal weed and restrict supply, leaving a lot of room for the black market weed to still be a viable product.
Creosote, you may correct me if I am totally wrong here. I don’t see any reason that marijuana should be any more expensive than asparagus in a free market enviroment.
You have to figure, if roughly half of all cigarettes sold in New York are black market, a good chunk of weed that is sold in legal states has to be as well. Especially as the black market is already well established, while the legal market is still working itself out. Until prices fall low enough or quality rises high enough to make the black market undesirable for most people, it will still dominate the total sales over the legal market.
To your second point, if marijuana was legal on a federal level so that it could be grown in large scale commercial farms similar to tobacco, and want taxed to death like tobacco, it would probably be cheaper than asparagus. Economies of scale are wonderful for consumer products, if the government doesn’t fuck them up.
Just don’t get any ideas about selling loosey joints. It might be really bad for your health.
It wouldn’t be IF there was a free market.
I don’t have numbers to hand, but the black market at a retail level in Oregon is basically dead for a couple of reasons. Anybody over 21 can have up to four plants for personal use, the cops can’t use smelling or seeing pot in a car as a reason for PC, (you can even smoke in a car as long as you aren’t driving), almost anyone can get a med card which lets you grow up to 12 plants per person, and you can stack cards, though how many you can stack varies depending on zoning. All of this combines to effectively mean that almost everyone knows someone that grows and so if they don’t want to pay taxes, they buy from a friend or a friend of a friend which is really more grey market than black market. Prices at that level are not much cheaper than a store, and a store has three things going for it from the perspective of many consumers; variety/selection, potency numbers, and “proof” that it is safe. The demand through legal channels is so large that most growers who are selling /in/ Oregon are sending their product through that channel. If they sell it on the black market, they send it out of state, where prices are about double. So, for example, weed we’d get about $1200 for legally here in Oregon, we could theoretically sell to someone in New York for about $2200 at wholesale.
Excellent read. Thanks. ??
its like the beginning of a thomas pynchon novel
I’m gonna need a hit of something because I just got a quote on my health insurance renewal.
Trump diddit.
My premiums are going from $65 dollars a week to $75 dollars a week. Fuck you Obama and Fuck you spineless republicans who can’t get rid of this mess.
Try $2500 / month for a family of five on the bottom-dollar bronze plan.
Holy shit.
Ouch. I’m sorry man. That’s Obscene. That’s 30k a year. You would be better off sticking that money under your mattress and hoping nothing serious goes wrong for a couple years.
The real problem is my income invariably falls in the dead zone for subsidies. I cannot predict what my income is going to be because of the business pass-thru so how can I determine what my subsidy should be? It’s worse than jumping tax brackets.
The people who came up with this lunatic system need to be strung up by their genitals.
Do you pay a shitty 1040-ES quarterly on top of all that? I hate that shit.
I somehow manage to avoid that scenario. The profit pass-thru is highly variable year to year. If I had two good years in a row, then I would be. If my wife were working, I most definitely would be paying quarterly.
Your health insurance is wack, man. Sorry to hear that.
Around 2010 our brilliant political elite decided it would be a good idea to let health insurance companies write healthcare law. Our political class is retarded.
My favorite part of online Obamacare discussions are when folks show up to huffily claim that premium increases like these are all fantastical rightwing propaganda. After all, the law was intended to make things “affordable”, and laws are magic, so obviously it couldn’t do something other than intended. (Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that a large percentage of the aforementioned group don’t pay for their own healthcare so they have no idea what it cost to begin with.)
Damn I thought it was bad 4 years ago when I was paying $1200 a month for a family of 6 on the equivalent of the lowest level bronze plan (was technically Romneycare and not Obamacare at the time)
Mine staid the same, still sucks because high deductibles, high out of pocket, long wait times, most good doctors went concierge. So it’s working just as expected. Thanks, Democrats.
I’ve got to seriously consider going without. $30K in premiums for a $14K deductible with an HMO? What the ever-loving fuck?
About $450 a month for wife and I. $1500 deductible and max $2000 per person out out of pocket. This is far worse than it was before the ACA. My premium is up about 50% since 2009, the deductible is 3x what it is and the out of pocket is also 3x what it was. And like I said, wait times are just far worse, it’s getting close to being socialized healthcare bad, and the pool of good doctors available just evaporated since none of them want to deal with this shit. We pay about the same for our private health insurance out of the country. Which is actually a lot more usable as long as we buy a thousand dollar plane ticket to go use it. I can’t believe that any sane person would ever vote for a Democrat again.
Could you buy a series of short term out of the exchange policies to protect against major illness and then look to the Oklahoma Surgery Center if you need surgery of some kind ?
Costa Rica offers some excellent medical tourism packages worth looking into as well.
44K before they even begin to pay 80% is evil.
Yeah, at 30K, just create your own account for healthcare savings. I think you’d likely come out ahead.
It’s insane and completely unsustainable. Something has got to happen in the next year or two. Either repeal of these regulations driving up the cost or single payer. It goes without saying that I’m hoping for the first and, at this point, resigned the repubs are going to give us the second unless the primaries turn things around.
Single payer is impossible here, the costs would be staggering, thankfully, so just forget about that.
We made the decision to go without 2 years ago when our premiums were $1200 for a family of four with a $12K deductible (they were higher last year and I didn’t bother to check current) . Last year we left the question blank on our tax returns and will do the same this year.
John McCain and 2 brainless fembots in Congress are 100% to blame for that.
Ahem,
Rand Paul voted with senator Warren and her progressive brethren to kill a bill that would have reduced federal spending by 1 trillion over ten years and cut medicade expansion. Rand voted against reducing government and is responsible for the fact that we have Obamacare today.
If Rand keeps standing on his principals and keeps congress from reducing government because of his principals, then he doesn’t represent libertarian ideas at all.
/heads off to tackle Paul off his lawnmower.
Rand Paul isn’t a capitalist either, by the way.
Rand voted for straight out repeal, which is what they all promised. Is that you, Ken, using Lachowsky’s avatar and posting name?
Wait, this can’t be true. All I’m hearing is how popular Obamacare is, based on the record number of sign ups in the open enrollment period.
Yeah, I just had to add the wife and kid to my work plan (which keeps getting shittier by the year) because their premium went up $400.00 to $885.00.
Prices are already starting to come down. I’m from the Midwest and it appears that way from what a friend said(*stares unblinking ahead*).
Yes, my friends have also noticed that in this area, and we’re only in a state that’s close to/inbetween a few other states that have legalized.
That’s what I’ve heard, anyway, through the “grape” vine.
My locals have dropped prices(so I’ve heard) because they are scared shitless of the online competition.
Huh, I need to drop by your place. Up here, at least for my one and only contact, the prices are ridiculously high (so to speak).
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You have my email and your dog knows me.
GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
/OMWC’s dog
Carnally?
Everyone likes bacon.
Does Amazon sell weed yet? Home delivery? Not the People’s Liberal Republic of Maryland. I can see it being the last state to ever do so. We have laws here from the 1600s still on the books. I don’t think even one law has ever been repealed and never will be.
We do have home delivery for weed in Cali, but not for Alcohol, which is stupid,
Good article BTW, and best of luck, Neem oil for Spider mites!
We have home delivery for alcohol. Takes about 10-20 minutes for me to get my shipment. Happy happy. It’s a little expensive, but there’s some days it’s just nice to stay at home and drink a few beers in my jammies.
Did a topic switch occur here ?
Damn. I need to bookmark this for later.
You’ve got my email if you ever want to start serious about setting something up. I’ve got a few friends from B-school that would probably be willing to kick in capital as well.
I’m actually going to be buying some penny stocks when my brokerage gets the wire transfer. The article has some nice insights.
Feel free to send me a message with any questions or for discussion.
Without reading the article, I think your mistake is growing conifer trees instead of cannabis. Might have a nice piney scent, but won’t get a fly high.
Hmm…
That doesn’t work either. What about corn silks? Nope. It’s crazy how back in the old days there were all these old wives tales about what kids smoked to get high. I’m not sure how they knew these things, but none of it actually works. I learned that from friend of a friend.
One that actually does work is the nutmeg one. I wouldn’t recommend it though. It’s pretty nasty. Nutmeg really needs to be scheduled. Kids are getting high from it. That must be stopped.
You can also get high from Salvia and Coleus leaves. Let’s just ban gardening to be sure no one ever gets high.
It’s called getting Rocky Mountain high.
You need to make her cough up her Jew gold.
1. Find back forty or open forest clearing no one goes to.
2. Plant weed.
3. Don’t care about it for awhile.
4. Continue to not care about it for awhile.
5. Return to find someone has stolen your weed.
6. Ragequit.
7. Just buy from local dealers or get better weed from the Hell’s Angels.
I mean, uh, that’s what I assume it’s like.
1. walk into doctors office
2. explain back pain/anxiety
3. Go to pot store
4. buy weed and candy
5. enjoy
6. End up on a registry that can be used against you for owning/buying firearms if the gov ever chooses to use it
Good Luck with that, I post here, they already know who I am,
Molon Labe
If you have a medical marijuana card, you commit an easily provable felony if you check no to the “are you a user of any illicit drugs” Question on form 4473. Lying on the form is a felony by itself.
^This. Not a registry of firearm owners. I’m talking about a registry of felonies.
I read an article not too long ago where an employee of a gun shop wouldn’t sell to a customer because he knew she had a medical marijuana card and would be committing a felony by buying the firearm. He didn’t want his shop involved.
Considering a guy literally beat his kids skull in, escaped from a mental hospital, tried to kill his superior officers, spent a year in military prison, lied on a 4473 and still didn’t get caught, I wouldn’t lose sleep over it.
I was thinking either A) an easy add on felony if you are already arrested for something else and the two get pieced together or B) an overzealous prosecutor in in a state with both a gun registry and medical mj decides to rack up a series of easy slam dunk cases.
Nothing to lose sleep over, but enough of a risk for me that I wouldn’t get a mj card if I planned on purchasing firearms, especially if there’s a state registry. I wouldn’t think twice if it was legalized for recreation and there was no records trail.
I’d just as soon not tie my 2nd amendment rights to the whims of the ATF.
I haven’t purchased a fire arm in 25 years, what form is this? I need no form to own a fire arm,
and an AR isn’t in my future. I see your point however, and understand the Ramifications.
During my CCW class, the owner of the gunshop says they get a steady stream of requests for copies of 4473s from the local police.
If you are arrested and in possession of drugs, they look to see if you recently purchased a gun. If yes, they hand you off to the feds.
I’m not saying its a registry, but it’s a registry.
If you like your registry, you can keep your registry?
The Feds who prosecute what, 5 or 10 of these a year, out of how many thousands?
Not that it makes sense to set yourself up for a felony conviction.
I ended up checking out Reddit’s gun community more in the hopes of getting up to date information about the conspiracy theorist’s wet dream that is the Vegas massacre, and there are disgusting stukaches there who go out of their way to rat on people, even when they’re not breaking the law–there was some legal suppressor that some idiot freaked out about that I also saw, and other things of that nature.
The situation there reminds me of the gun forum on Something Awful around Obama’s lightworker days… way too many “hey you can be a leftist and support gun rights even when voting for communists and socialists who want total bans on firearms” and other rationalizations. Except they weren’t touchy about the devil’s lettuce back then in this context.
Yeah, sure. If you want to lame and subservient to DA MAN.
1. Live in Colorado
That’s it.
And BTW, I’m not a user, but voting in favor was one of the few opportunities to put my libertarian money where my mouth is.
NYC
call pager
wait 30 minutes
get call back
wait 1 hour
deal with bike messenger dude in kitchen. make jokes to make situation less awkward. he asks to use your phone and you say no.
“Those families that acquired distributor licenses when the 22nd Amendment was repealed have businesses now that that are worth 100s of millions of dollars.”
People made family fortunes based on presidential term limits?
Just engaging in a little chain-jerking. Good article.
Regulatory capture and cronyism can really make you a fortune.
Damn it. I knew I should have double-checked that one. 🙂
Glad to hear everything is going well Creosote. I hadn’t seen you around lately and was wondering how your operation was going.
We’ve been in the midst of our largest harvest to date, and dealing with some weather related crisis and emergencies. Looks like we are going to have a good harvest. We should finish up with the work of harvest by Thanksgiving.
Nice article!
I was wondering what your concerns are about security from external threats (not internal stealing)? I would imagine that a full harvest provides an extremely tempting target for all sorts of various criminal elements, ranging from an opportunistic thieves to organized gangs.
Along that note, I couldn’t believe you are not allowed to run barbed wire! What’s the purpose behind that? I would guess your two options for security are either to run as stealthily as possible or to create a fortified compound. Not being allowed barbed wire makes the latter much more difficult.
If it’s ever legalized here in VA, which may be the single silver lining to the blue conversion, I’ve been considering looking into it as a legal supplier. I already have acres of land and essentially a fortified compound with barbed wire perimeter fencing, surveillance/alarm systems, and guard dogs. Wouldn’t take much throw up razor wire or other protective devices.
Arkansas is a long way off from legalization. I have thought about planting cocoa on my property. I doubt anyone around here knows what that looks like. I imagine it’s not terribly difficult to make cocaine out of the plant. I figure 20 acres would be enough to provide a nice supplemental income.
That’s a lot of chocolate.
One of my neighbors over in Catahoula parish planted tobacco around his corn field to keep critters out. People have always done that. He said as soon as the plants got chest high the jackboots showed up. He said they were serious as hell, knocked him and his wife to the ground screamed at them and put guns in their faces, the whole nine yards. They were arrested and fined and with all of the legal costs he nearly lost his farm.
I knew tobacco was regulated, but geez. I never thought they would act like that over tobacco.
I advise no planting of coca. No matter how much you make from it it wont be worth the disaster if you get caught.
You’re threatening the tax scheme with unregulated tobacco. They take that very seriously, ask Eric Garner.
Revenoooers are some evil bastards. Yeah, it’s about the money.
I wasn’t really serious, but holy shit. I didn’t realize growing tobacco was that regulated. I don’t think it is here in arkansas. I did some research a few years ago and couldn’t find anything that prohibited me from growing my own. I know a guy who grows his own. His cigarettes are the strongest I have smoked. I can’t take more than a few drags off without turning green.
It wasn’t the state boys, it was the feds that got him. How in hell they knew he was growing it is a mystery. Helicopter? I see them flying around now and again but I figured it was locals looking for pot. In any case, yeah, I didn’t know that they took it that seriously either.
Cocoa would be interesting. I would be interested in just chewing the leaves. It seems to have worked out well as a stimulant for the South Americans.
My wife’s grandparents used to have an 80 acre tobacco farm. They were under no regulations that I know of, but they also sold it 15 or 20 years ago. Probably stopped growing tobacco a little before that.
I spent some time down in the Andes. Chewing the leaves is about like taking an aspirin, not a big deal. The tea also is pretty mild. The Injuns all chew that stuff constantly and all of their teeth are black from it. Personally I didn’t get much out of it.
That’s disappointing.
As disappointing as drinking real absinthe for the first time was for me 15 years ago or so. I thought I was going to be tripping my balls off. Yeah, not so much.
My father owns about 270 acres of tree farm up in the mountains. It was last cut about ten years ago and the undergrowth has come up pretty heavy now. As a result, the state police hover over the property a couple times a year in their choppers looking for illicit plants. The drug war in all its incarnations is a big business.
“Tree” farm.
*nods*
It would be more appropriate to call it a tax farm.
Goddammit goddammit goddammit goddammmit
You hit a sore spot with that. Even worse the state and national forests are subsidized timber and drive the price down for everyone else. Tax funded competition. Goddammit.
I don’t think dad has taken a tax credit on it as he’s letting it go back to nature. The previous owner was the last person who cut it.
The bears are loving it right now.
We get the same thing. Several times I have gone to some of the locals to ask nicely if they would move their ‘crops’ off of our land. In every case they were accommodating. Put it on timber company land for fuck’s sake, or the national or state forest. Don’t put that stuff on our private land.
*pot is the #1 cash crop in Catahoula parish.
That’s a dick move to plant weed on someone else’s property. If you’re going to do that then you need to plant it on the government’s property.
My little brother was planning on growing some pot on my father’s place when he was in high school. Me, being slightly wiser, talked him out of it. I told him of Dads land was confiscated due to him, dad would probably kill him. He planted it on Corp of engineer land in the river bottoms instead.
It is surprising to me how pinko some of the rural residents of our country are. They are essentially communists but if you call them that they get offended.
They used to steal oaks for firewood and cedar to sell to furniture makers and they didn’t think anything was wrong with that. Need money? Go over on Suthenboy’s land and cut yourself a few cedars. Need a place to grow pot? Go down on Suthenboy’s place on the Salem creek. Need a place to hunt? Ol’ Suthenboy has a great stand of hardwoods full of ducks and squirrels.
This past year we cut a 40 acre tract on the Salem creek and people were bitching about it because it ruined the hunting. I didn’t even bother trying to keep them from cutting firewood from the tops that were left. Fortunately those hills are slowly emptying as the locals leave for cities. There is almost no one left up there, thank god.
My dad owns a 50 acre plot in the mountains that should be excellent deer hunting land. However, there is a few meth head families that live in the area and poach all the deer off. This really pisses me off. I can’t tell you how many time I have gone out to that land and found deer carcasses that are wholly intact except for the missing back strap and or antlers. I know who is doing this shit, but I really don’t have anyway of stopping them without having an armed confrontation with some very unsavory people.
Been there, done that. You wont win. On our place they go in at night on horseback and spotlight the deer. Damned game warden lives less than a mile away but no one is ever caught. I figure he is the worst one.
Same thing here. Deer carcasses with backstraps cut out. It got much better when i started placed the rusted out barbed wire strands on the back pasture/woods with new field fencing topped with barbed wire. It’s expensive and takes forever, but I’m slowly getting about a 3/4-1 mile up. I’ve gotten a couple locals in my corner too and that’s made a big difference.
It surprised me too about the commie nature of some of the rural locals. When I first moved in, it turned out one of the neighbors had been keeping hay in my barn. While I was gone, he drove up onto our fields, to the barn, and started loading a trailer up. My wife called me very concerned about the strangers and vehicles on our property. I raced home and got them while they were still here.
I greeted them armed and with my Doberman on a leash. I was very polite and friendly at first, but he couldn’t understand why he couldn’t keep his hay in my barn and come on my property whenever he wished (“…been doing it for 40 years”). I tried a different tack and explained that my dog wasn’t friendly and would have attacked him if she had been lose and I wasn’t there. He replied, “that’s what I keep a gun for, to kill dogs that attack me.”
I rested my hand on top of my grip and replied, “and I keep a gun for people who shoot my dogs”. He took a step back like I punched him and that was it. Never had a problem with him since. I put up gates and fences as fast as I could for the others.
They’re not really communist, just common.
If it looks like a criminal enterprise, and quacks like a criminal enterprise…..
So, we plan to stagger our harvests, so that we have revenue coming in every two weeks. That means less on site which helps. Second, we’ll have security fencing and the security cameras. And you can buy weed insurance. Essentially, the plan is have your land far enough away from where people will see it, keep the location relatively quiet, have the fencing and heavy duty safes for storage, the cameras for recording, and insurance so if you do get hit you let the cops arrest them and the insurance cover the loss.
I’m going to file this under willfully obtuse
In Congress, Republicans promote lower tax rates for American corporations even as companies employ the offshore system to pay little tax on billions of dollars in profit. This uncomfortable reality is not the focus of the tax debate in part because firms like Appleby help keep these activities secret. The public is simply unaware.
Perhaps if the tax were less than the cost of avoidance, these elaborate schemes might not be so “unexpectedly” ubiquitous.
No, that can’t be right. Too obvious.
Causing companies and money to flee the US was exactly the objective of the current tax system. It was written by globalists who love seeing resources overseas.
the reality that lefties don’t understand: if more people actually realized how much of their income was being appropriated (particularly via corp taxes which are passed onto employees and customers), they’d all buck and cheat the system just as much as any bazillionaire tries to do.
see: the black/grey market in europe is enormous.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/opinion/europe-shadow-economies/index.html
Thus the shell games used to appropriate that money. The cocksuckers doing it know they would be hanged if people really figured out how much is being stolen from them so they play games.
yes.
i once remarked to someone else recently new to the finanical services industry (a lawyer hired from a firm to a corp),
“really, most banks are providing exactly the same product: the trick is hiding how much and by what methods you are actually charging people”
the same could be said for insurance/trading/whatever. when you looked at the headline rates being charged, you weren’t actually seeing the cost. the cost, by design, is somewhere else.
That’s ok. As a great philosopher once said, “To be a dopeman, boy, you must qualify – don’t get high on your own supply.”
I’m kind of liking this trend of throwing left wing arguments directly back at people’s faces.
The victim suggests that it’s bad that women work in fields that on average generate less income than ones dominated by men. The commentator points out that how dare he ‘mansplain’ to women what their priorities should be and how awful it is to suggest that wealth accumulation, rather than personal happiness, be the most important value everyone has to have.
I am finished wiping my PST files and my user drives. Like with a cloth. 15,000 emails in just over an hour. That must have taken Hillary’s team weeks to do what I did with half a morning.
When is your appointment with the Russian lawyer?
I called your receptionist this morning…she said you’d call me back.
This may just be my former inner Marxist talking here, but spot the word that isn’t used in this ‘Conservative defense of privilege’.
Screw it, it’s ‘class’. Well they use class twice to describe education, but you see my point. Even if you take racial privilege completely seriously, guess what, class dynamics still have a far, far more overwhelming influence on structural hierarchies.
I don’t think these idiots understand that the natural rational choice as a result of racial privilege concepts is not whipping oneself’s over his or her assumed racial sins, but ethnostates.
God save us from supposed conservatives who live in fucking Brooklyn.
There is no such thing a “good faith” to a prog.
This is the part that pisses me off:
This would have given agency to the students to police their own thoughts. They could say to themselves; “am I being dismissive of a certain idea because it comes from a person of color, or a woman?” These are good things for us to think about.
No, you moron, it is not a good thing to ‘police your own thoughts’ and assemble an arbitrarily defined racial view of the world that you try to actively and lazily slap onto everything in existence. An actual responsible and rational adult thinks “why do I fundamentally disagree with this concept or idea?” not immediately assume a cognitively biased state that defines the analysis afterwards. The author doesn’t know how basic reason works.
He sure seems to know how brainwashing works.
Neoconservatives, so called libertarians that have become obsessed with identity politics, and progressives never want to talk about class distinctions. I’ll let you figure out why that is.
If we breakdown all of these studies of race by income levels it all starts to make sense. The lower classes are getting a raw deal by the police and the government at large. But, if we look at it from a class perspective than we are left with a few uncomfortable conclusions: race isn’t really as big of a factor as some would have use believe (progressives hardest hit); the current welfare systems are not helping the lower classes (neoconservatives hardest hit), and so called ‘free trade’ (just managed trade) has been detrimental to the lower classes (so called libertarians hardest hit).
So they all agree to ignore the class factor and instead talk about race, which is a problem that can never be proven and never rectified, thereby ensuring continued government involvement.
All it takes to believe that racism is a bigger evil than socialism is complete abdication of thinking for one’s self.
I’ll give the actual Marxists this much – they’re right that class is vital to an understanding of our society. They’re breathtakingly wrong in the conclusions they derive from this insight, but they’re not wrong about how class determines so much.
The clowns prattling on about privilege never want to address the silliness of insisting that some white kid born to methhead parents in a backwoods Indiana trailer park has a leg up in life on, say, Malia Obama.
Almost no one believes that race is a complete nonfactor, but it’s much less of one than class.
Also, what’s the over-under on these people, who obsess about race influencing bias, immediately assuming that someone like Suthenboy is less intelligent than he actually is because of his accent?
Extremely high.
I have a buddy from the Marines, he grew up on the Alabama-Tennessee state line. He sounds exactly like what the typical Brooklynite thinks every dumb cracker sounds like. He also was the best radar technician I ever worked with, and went on to become an electrical engineer after he left the service. Brilliant dude.
That is exactly why I chose that handle and it has worked beautifully.
Also, I can speak clearly without a heavy accent but it’s too much fun playing it up. All I have to do is revert to my childhood accent.
I do something similar. I play up the Fargo accent when I have to tell people things they don’t want to hear. I also get much perkier or cheerleader-ish. It works to deflect.
They also are completely wrong on how classes are divided.
Capitalist/worker has not been the dominant class divide for a century
Paging Dr. Moreau…
https://www.inverse.com/article/38240-mini-brains-organoids-rats
Putting human brain structures into non-human animals creates a thorny ethical area that raises people’s fears about medical research going too far into unfamiliar territory — and too quickly.
Translation: people are panicky, dumb animals.
Are you pondering what I am pondering?
I think so, Brain, but this time you put the trousers on the monkey.
Even if you take racial privilege completely seriously, guess what, class dynamics still have a far, far more overwhelming influence on structural hierarchies.
We’re all hedge fund managers, now.
Thanks for the article.
Sounds like reporting is harder than in the liquor industry, but everything else, regulation wise, is a bit easier. There’s never going to be any TTB filings with pot. (well, I mean eventually the feds will wise up and start raking in the tax money).
Great timing. Now you make me not want to take my new distilling job, and start learning the ropes as a grower.
Yeah, that’s my take from working in brewing and investigating starting a distillery. Congrats on the new job though, that was my other dream.
I’m planting my flag here – peak derp has been determined.
Im guessing drugs.
“No matter how much information you give them they cannot draw a sensible conclusion. ” – Bezmenov on useful idiots.
At this point, the average millennial uses racism to mean “anything I don’t like”.
A different person then says: ‘You’re ignorant as f**k’ to the girl.
At least there is one person with some sense.
I’m planting my flag here – peak derp has been determined.
Nice try, but Peak Derp is a myth.
Agreed, Devolution is always possible. A bunch of apes walking around the ruins is in our future. And I’m not talking about the Planet of the Apes.
Are we not men?
We Are Devo!
*nods approving under my energy dome*
And we can get back to that day!
How did it go with Marsy’s law yesterday?
Passed by a disgustingly large margin: 82.59% in favor.
Just another reason to be against DeWine (who supported the issue).
Here it passed with “only” around 63%. Millions in slick advertising can do
wonderfulterrible things.The most obviously terrible consequence of it so far is cops invoking it to keep their names from being published when they shoot someone. A local newspaper recently said fuck it and published a cops name. The cop-suckers lost their minds.
I keep telling y’all, there is no peak, just a vast, vast plateau.
HT: Instapundit
Jonah Goldberg on how leftists are getting bitten in the ass by their own tactics in Hollywood:
“Liberals are geniuses at unleashing social panics because A) it never occurs to them that their motives are anything but pure and B) because they are almost exclusively focused on short term tactics. And yet they are invariably shocked when these moral frenzies come back to bite them. McCarthyism was a direct consequence of both the Red Scare and the Brown Scare. And when the tactics they mastered were turned on them, they acted as if they came from nowhere.”
TL;DR: Leftists end up consuming themselves
Can’t happen quickly enough…
“she claims that since I am technically unemployed, I owe her sex twice a day”
Don’t know how you manage to get any work done what with the required 4 hours of begging as foreplay.
Congratulations on an awesome article.
“In reality about 67% of cannabis businesses in Oregon have failed. The vast majority were due to failure to comply with either reporting requirements or basic shit like tracking your employees’ hours and properly paying them, which even some fresh off the boat immigrant can manage when starting a restaurant.”
There must be a huge opportunity in managing these businesses for other people who don’t know what they’re doing.
It happens a lot, where taking over an existing business and running it better than the last guy makes more sense than starting from scratch yourself. It’s just important to make sure that the reason the last guy failed was mostly because of his mismanagement. It happens a lot, too, that people who’ve always dreamed of, say, starting a bed and breakfast–hate the reality of actually running a business like that. (There seemed to be a never ending stream of Americans who wanted to start a bed in breakfast in the fishing villages along the Yucatan coast when I was working commercial real estate there. Half of them seemed to be exhausted, American B&B owners, and the other half were Americans who had just gotten the B&B ownership fever).
The idea of the “franchise”was to offer the best of both worlds to these people. You don’t have to start a business from scratch–we can sell you a franchise! You’ll use our accounting software, our personnel procedures, and train you on it–oh, and we’ll supply the cannabis.
There must be a huge opportunity to sell franchises in the cannabis industry–especially if you can supply your franchises with data processing and product. If I were you and I built a retail store, I’d build it with an eye on making it a showcase for franchise sales. There may be more potential and less risk in selling franchises and product to wanna be store owners than anything else.
Your franchise idea is extremely compelling.
If I had to pull a guess completely out of my ass, I’d also wager this is one of the reasons that the restaurant industry has such high failure rates. Go into a business with extremely thin margins without knowing it, and you can burn through capital quickly.
Absolutely.
And even excellent restaurants tend to go our of business over time. A non-franchise restaurant that stays in business for ten years or more is doing great.
A lot of it’s about location. Some of it’s about doing something really basic and doing it really well.
Specialize in breakfast or something like that.
You know what businesses almost never go under?
Nail salons.
Auto repair places do well, too, but mom and pop nail salons . . . you can put ’em right next to each other and they’ll both stay in business.
That may be area specific, in my area I’ve seen spa and hair salons just cycle through business names and owners multiple times in the same year. The only nail only place (guessing by the name) that’s around just opened. I’ll see if they’re still there in 6 months.
A cannabis store should be like a wine bar and run like a restaurant.
Don’t put everything behind glass or on the wall like it’s a gun store.
Have a sit down sort of place, almost like a restaurant, where you’re served by someone like a waitress or a hostess at a wine bar.
She gives you a menu, talks about the specials, asks what you’re interested in, makes recommendations, and brings samples to see and smell.
It shouldn’t be like a gun store or a pharmacy.
Next!!!
McDankolds! You could serve fries, too.
Thank you!. And there is a big opportunity. It’s reassuring to have someone else see it.. We’ve already got three people who have land sniffing around wanting to have us basically do that. They supply land and capital, we put in our system and infrastructure and split the proceeds.
https://twitter.com/NP_Podcast/status/928074494199123968
RIP Dave Rubin. A Leftist that supported free speech better than ostensibly ‘libertarian’ writers. He should have never held this debate
When they zoom into Rubin it looks like he’s moderating a really furious argument between two deaf people.
Do ANY of you work?
I’m a state employee – of course I don’t.
Well, it’s official – after two decades, this cis shitlord will be re-entering the pit of SJW angst that is the modern American university.
How afraid should I be? How can’t-evened will I make my fellow students?
All murder, all guts, all fun?
Stay out of liberal arts, anthropology, etc., and you’ll be fine.
Are you undergrad?
Then you’ll have to take a bunch of shit for the first couple of years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioZrbbhR2Jo
Ha- nice reference
Great, great song, although I (obviously) prefer the ‘Fits. Samhain, and later Danzig, could be pretty hit or miss. Glenn started to take himself too seriously after the Misfits.
If it’s graduate school for a professional degree than you should be good. If it’s undergraduate or a graduate degree not for professional degree than you’re screwed
MBA program. I’m finally using my GI Bill, so it’s not costing me anything since I’m going to a state school.
You should be good. But, don’t be surprised if people find your economic beliefs to be ‘problematic’ even in an MBA program.
Went to an MBA info session awhile back that had a constant focus on ‘community oriented’ business development. Presentation also included a shot at Trump (but a fair one honestly in regards to manufacturing jobs since the 1970s) but fortunately no social justice buzzwords.
Colleges are mainly producing shitty people these days. I stand by that statement, even though I have a graduate degree
Yeah, I have no illusions that truly free markets will be the preferred strain of capitalism in my courses. I’m just hoping to avoid as much silliness as possible while I position myself to exit the public sector and make some real money for a change.
Take you and your PTSD AND GET OUT!
Congrats!
I started on my MS last summer. It hasn’t been too bad, but it’s all online so my interaction is a little different. Even so, I’ve had to explain to more than one classmate why nationalizing all medical research under the leadership of the NIH would be a very bad idea.
Don’t talk to anyone if you don’t have to.
Sounds cynical I know, but seriously, when I visit clients I avoid people I’m not directly working with, completely. Except for some other IT folk who I already know are not insane. But where you’re going, in an academic environment, and as a student at that, no good can come from unneeded contact with anyone.
Not a problem for me, I’m an introvert anyway.
First thing that popped in my head:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlVDGmjz7eM
Man, listen at that dude, not even one word about diversity and intersectionality, what a shitlord!
The world became a poorer place when Dangerfield left us.
“I don’t know if you’re familiar with who runs that business but I assure you, it’s not the Boy Scouts!”
I imagine going to night school helps. If you’re working a full day and then attending classes at night, ain’t no one got time for that kind of jackassery.
I did that for almost 5 years. There wasn’t much bullshit going on. I remember my accounting professor, she wore jackboots. No matter how tired you were, you didn’t dare doze off, she’d probably wack you with that damn stick she was carrying around.
I’m shocked, shocked I say!
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2017/11/08/air-force-academy-cadet-wrote-racial-slur-outside-his-own-dorm-room/
The Russians dun did it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-databreaches/former-yahoo-ceo-apologizes-for-data-breaches-blames-russians-idUSKBN1D825V?il=0
Seems like Russia can be used as an excuse for anything now. I don’t even need worry about project schedules ever again. All I need to do is say ‘I almost had the last part done, but the Russians!’.
I was gonna win the president
but then MUH RUSSIA
First woman, had no precedent
then MUH RUSSIA
Now I’m writing bitch-all books,
drink like a lush-a
Because MUH RUSSIA
Because MUH RUSSIA
Because MUH RUSSIA
Da-da-da da da da
https://hotair.com/archives/2017/11/08/gop-repeals-adoption-tax-credit-party-disband/
How can you claim to be ‘pro-life’ and then oppose the adoption tax credit? Seems contradictory
Not having a special tax break for adoption kills babies? What? I mean, I’m not even saying if I’m for or against the tax break, not enough time to think about it.
I think it’s more that stopping abortions creates more situations where children need parents. Foster homes overflowing with unwanted kids might prompt some less ethical people to consider encouraging abortion as a final solution to the problem.
Coincidentally was talking to a coworker about legal pot the other day. A couple of his buddies are prelegalization pot growers who are now semilegit as basically agronomists for newer growers. Another is in the supply side producing grow lights. All very interesting.
I look forward to reading your post through to the end but first:
How do you think the users pay for it? No, I’m not counting stealing copper pipe, wire etc, regularly boosting designer clothing off the rack or rolling tricks as that kind of productivity.
Most heroin users aren’t junkies but even most junkies are gainfully employed.
Fair enough. I can’t really contest that. I will say, you can’t OD and die on pot, but you can on heroin. My point is that there’s a line where I wouldn’t feel comfortable personally supplying product even if I think all drugs should be legalized.