Submitted Without Comment

From CNN:

Neighbor Jim Skaggs, who was the developer for the neighborhood known as Rivergreen years ago, told CNN that there has been a “long-running disagreement” between them over property maintenance. He also noted that [Rand] Paul did not like the rules of the property when they were first explained to him.

“He believes in less restrictions on property rights. He has strong beliefs on this subject,” Skaggs said. “He had to be told very sternly that he needed to follow the rules and restrictions. He did not do anything wrong. But he had to be told sternly to follow the rules. He did not like the rules.”
Skaggs said he “very much likes” both men, though he noted that Paul “is a very different character than most people.

“He’s a deep believer in his own thoughts,” Skaggs said. “And he believes his own thoughts are right — and they are right 100% of the time.”

That is the same, sometimes cantankerous, attitude that Paul displayed in Washington during fights over civil liberties, health care and taxes.

“Can you imagine living next door to that guy?” said one congressional colleague who has regularly tangled with Paul over policy. “I’m pulling for the neighbor.”

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242 responses to “Submitted Without Comment”

  1. Not an Economist

    Skaggs may face federal charges according Fox News.

    1. Grumbletarian

      I would presume for something entirely unrelated to the assault on Paul committed by Rene Boucher?

    2. You mean Boucher, the assailant, yes?

      1. No, Skaggs. The Alien and Sedition Act comes into play, here.

  2. Grumbletarian

    I sure would hate to live next to someone who did what they wanted on their property and didn’t try to control what I could do on my property!

  3. “And he believes his own thoughts are right — and they are right 100% of the time.”

    Reminds me of one of the last arguments I had with the ex….

    “Do you always think you’re right?!”

    ‘Of course I do. If I thought I was wrong, I’d think differently. What kind of a question even is that?’

    1. hayeksplosives

      My ex: “Why do you have to contradict me?!”

      Me: “If you would quit being wrong, I’d quit contradicting you.”

      1. Hahaha! It’s amazing how simply those arguments boil down, really.

    2. wdalasio

      I’ve made this same argument myself. For some reason, it really seems to upset people.

      1. Brochettaward

        Conflict is inevitable. There are a shit ton of people walking around who think they’re mature because they desperately attempt to avoid it having to deal with it, and they view anyone who doesn’t and actually addresses it as an asshole.

      2. Indeed, it does. I seem to recall he was speechless after that… Oops.

        1. hayeksplosives

          I note that we both referred to “exes” in these examples. Hmm…

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            You both dated the same guy?

          2. It was a different time

          3. hayeksplosives

            LOL! Pretty sure even one of us is enough of a challenge to any one man.

            No, the moral of the story is that there is no shortage of men who don’t want a GF who is an intellectual equal or superior. The fact that mine was German didn’t help matters.

          4. A Leap at the Wheel

            You know there was another German that didn’t want an intellectual equal for a GF.

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            You mean Sevens?

          6. Viking1865

            No, the moral of the story is that there is no shortage of men who don’t want a GF who is an intellectual equal or superior.

            Losers. The fact is, even though my GF is just as smart as I am, I can still reach things on the high shelf and open jars without help. Making me superior. Plus I can pee standing up.

            Although I do make a high pitched shrieking noise when confronted with unexpected bugs.

          7. Lachowsky

            I maintain my patriarchal superiority over my wife by daily demonstrating my ability to eat more than she does at dinner.

    3. Brochettaward

      See…here’s the problem. Libertarianism is an ideology that gives everyone room to think they’re right. They just can’t force other people to go along with their ideas. There is a big difference between the libertarian know-it-all and the progressive. Libertarianism, despite attracting more than its fair share of assholes, is a naturally humble ideology. To me, it’s about acknowledging that no one fucking has all the answers and thus no one has the right to impose their will on others. And that notion is something more people could stand to take into their daily lives.

      1. juris imprudent

        Listen, what kind of dumbass ideology is that? When you’re right, then by God you force everyone to go along with you to prove you’re right. If you had to, you know, actually PERSUADE people, well what kind of fucked up society would result from that? And no, there is no room for honest disagreement – you’re a dishonest idiot if you disagree!

        /every prog and far too many conservatives

        And this is why we are the sub 1%.

    4. commodious spittoon

      Christ, what an asshole.

  4. ruodberht

    What I believe is flawless. What you believe is flawed. So change your beliefs. /epistemologyfordummies

  5. I prefer Iowahawk: https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/447763019628425217?lang=en

    Burge’s Law: Every New Yorker cartoon can be improved by recaptioning “I think I’m going to kill myself”

    1. Rhywun

      Or “My wife is a slut.”

    2. MikeS

      Nice reply:

      Carlton Hinds‏ @methuselaschild
      23 Mar 2014
      Replying to @iowahawkblog

      Methuselaschild’s Law: in any comment/forum thread, Canadians always find a way to mention that they are in/from Canada.

      1. But Enough About Me

        “Exxxxxxxxcellent, Smithers!”

  6. Vhyrus

    So I sold my car :(.

    I hope the girl paying $400+ a month to drive it appreciates it as much as I did to get it for free.

    1. Brochettaward

      She’s going to catch gonorrhea from it, isn’t she?

      1. Vhyrus

        No, she’s going to catch gonorrhea from me.

    2. A Leap at the Wheel

      Come on man, don’t sell yourself short. All that dick you sucked to get the car counts as paying for it.

    3. commodious spittoon

      Confused. You won a car? And sold it to pay for the taxes?

      1. Vhyrus

        My 2007 STi. Given to me by my parents 8 years ago. By far my favorite car.

        1. Tundra

          Despite the head gasket. 😉

        2. Lachowsky

          when I turned 18, my older brother gave me his 92/94/98 ford ranger. It was a shop project truck from an automotive school in kentucky. It was actually a pretty good truck, for what it was. I drove it for a few years and gave it to my little brother when I got something nicer.

        3. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

          I remember the regret I felt when I sold my 66 olds….college car. 4 door. 1000 dollars when I bought it. I eventually found it and bought it again.

          Best stupid decision I ever made.

    4. Tundra

      Missed the story. Which car?

    5. mexican sharpshooter

      I realize nobody ever believes me when I say this because my delivery is so emotionless but:
      I’m sorry for your loss.

    6. DOOMco

      Nooooooooo Hawkeye is the best

  7. A Leap at the Wheel

    You know what’s kind of amazing about this smear campaign? Even if we grant every single fucking thing against Paul – He’s a evol libertarian. He likes to do his own thing with his house. He grows pumpkins. He enjoys mowing his lawn.

    So fucking what? That still makes Boucher sounds like a total unhinged maniac. Its L-A-N-D-S-C-A-P-I-N-G, the slowest thing in the world. A pumpkin patch takes months to grow. The lawn takes a week or two to grow. Boucher is reported to know Paul and have had a working relationship with him. A non-maniac would just go knock on the door, or send a text or email. Yeah maybe that turns into a shouting match and maybe to intemperate men throw a punch at each other. That’s how landscaping turns into a fight.

    But that’s not what happened here. This insane person, if you believe his own side of the story, did nothing for months until he snaps and sucker-tackles A PERSON HE KNOWS without saying a word to him.

    That’s Boucher’s defense. I’m enough of an asshole that in my most self serving story, I’m a danger to the public and don’t know how to function in society.

    You know, if a dog behaved like this they would get put down in the street. But the left is so unhinged, he gets cheered on by an elected official.

    God damn this is fucked up.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      That’s exactly why the Prog desires an all-powerful authoritarian nanny state. They know in their heart of hearts that in a state of nature, they would act like hyper-violent amoral subhuman ape-men.

      And they can’t possibly comprehend that there would be people who would not.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        For years I’ve rejected this argument as being far to self-serving and a product of motivated reasoning. I’m having a harder and harder time doing so.

      2. wdalasio

        They know in their heart of hearts that in a state of nature, they would act like effete, utterly impotent hyper-violent amoral subhuman e-men.

        FIFY

        1. antisthenes

          Unless Rand Paul has osteoporosis, not so much.

    2. Brochettaward

      Given the images posted of the property, Boucher would have to be looking for things to bitch about even if landscaping were the issue. There are plenty of neighbors like that, but it’s pretty fucking ridiculous. This isn’t the case of a neighbor who lets their yard grow above the waistline and has a broken down piece of shit on cinder blocks on their property.

      At first, I laughed about the case. I didn’t think it was politically motivated. But now all signs point to it being politically motivated, and the media is desperate to paint the complete opposite picture. The biggest outlets (left leaning) are all presenting the same biased one-sided account, starting with the NYT’s. There’s nothing to back it up. Not even specifics about what sort of landscaping issues may have actually existed. It’s almost entirely based on the account of one Republican developer who himself has reasons to lie.

  8. BakedPenguin

    I’ll just leave this here.

  9. Heroic Mulatto

    1. Vhyrus

      Deep.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        I’d like to go deep too.

        1. Tundra

          Tell the truth. Your wife is like a size 1, isn’t she?

          1. Vhyrus

            She’s a like a TARDIS: Bigger on the inside.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            4′ 9″ and about 85 pounds soaking wet.

          3. Tundra

            Lol. I knew it.

          4. CPRM

            but 70lbs of that is boo-tay?

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            but 70lbs of that is boo-tay?

            She’s Thai, not Dominican!

          6. A Leap at the Wheel

            If your bedroom dress up requires you to specify what order of priest she’s in, you two must have a lot of time on your hands.

          7. Heroic Mulatto

            You’ve read my After Dark posts before, no?

    2. Hyperion

      That’s quite impressive. For such a little girl, that’s one serious bubble butt. And the roundness in impressive. It’s like a perfect half sphere. I think I need to take some measurements to make sure.

    3. It’s like the afterdeck of the *Andrea Doria.*

      1. Hyperion

        I wonder if you could sit a bottle of beer on top each of her ass cheeks and they wouldn’t fall off… I don’t know, I think it’s too round, they would fall off. Needs to think of other things to do with dat ass. Maybe you could spray paint the world map on there?

      2. Bobarian LMD

        That is definitely the poop deck

    4. commodious spittoon

      Christ, what an ass.

      1. R C Dean

        Well played.

  10. CPRM

    Is it pronounced ‘Booshay’ like the Water Boy, ‘Boosher’, ‘Bowcher’, ‘Bowshay’ or ‘Bowker’? I’m withholding my final judge of his character until this pivotal question is answered.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Boo-tay.

      1. Big Boo-tay! Big Boo-tay!

  11. Brochettaward

    Why campus kangaroo courts always produce the same results:

    In subsequent court testimony after the accused sued Brown, Rodriguez admitted that she had not considered the accuser’s text messages or other post-incident behavior as having any bearing on the case. The reason, she said, was the hours of training that Brown had provided to prepare her to adjudicate the complaint—training required by the federal government. Rodriguez was specifically told that the impact of trauma on sexual-assault victims often causes them to behave in counterintuitive ways, such as not being able to recount a consistent set of facts or choosing to communicate with (rather than to avoid) the alleged assailant. “I felt like it couldn’t—I couldn’t really put myself in her shoes to understand why she was representing it that way,” explained Rodriguez, “so best not to attempt to judge her behavior.”

    But judging the accuser’s behavior, noted U.S. District Judge William Smith, “was precisely her job as a panel member: to interpret the evidence and make factual determinations about it.” He added, “It appears what happened here was that a training presentation was given that resulted in at least one panelist completely disregarding an entire category of evidence”—evidence severely damaging to the accuser’s credibility.

    Since 2011, the federal government has required all universities that receive federal money to provide “training or experience in handling complaints of sexual harassment and sexual violence” to adjudicators and investigators. Since nothing in the experience of most academics prepares them to competently investigate an offense that’s a felony in all 50 states…

    The risk of injustice is enhanced by the fact that, to the best of our knowledge, no school discloses the contents of its training materials to accused students before commencing the disciplinary process.

    I’m struck by the earnest attempt to compare these tribunals to jury trials. The account still gives the benefit of the doubt to the system, pretending it’s about protecting victims and people simply following their training.

    Why does no school disclose it’s training materials if they’re so proud of the process they’ve created? It shows that these assholes know full well that they are bastardizing the notion of due process. They know the sort of liability it would open them up to. They know that doing so would prevent them from lying in the future when they are inevitably sued. They know it would produce a strong reaction from the public.

    Jury of your peers. We don’t provide juries training for a fucking reason. These are often well educated professionals handing out these verdicts, and according to the Weekly Standard, I should just treat their miscarriage of justice as a result of poor training. No, it’s a coordinated fucking conspiracy among like minded individuals. And this shit is having a detrimental impact on actual rape victims.

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      No legal or legalistic process is closed by accident. It takes a shocking amount of work to keep a process secret, and the only organization that would bother to go through all the work to make it so is an organization that knows full well that they are not serving justice. They know their operation can’t see the light of day.

      If there is a reassurance that there is a “process,” but the process can’t be reviewed in public, it’s not a process. Its a bag job.

    2. commodious spittoon

      I wonder how many couples are planning a long con to allege rape, get the boyfriend put through the unconstitutional wringer, sue, and collect a hefty settlement based on the absurd show trial.

  12. ArchieBunker

    I’ve been on bed-rest the entire day with a fever and all that fun stuff. So did I miss anything important today?

    1. Brochettaward

      A regular commenter came out of the closet. Another has cancer. One is a suspected serial killer. I’m not going to enact the labor for you.

      1. ArchieBunker

        Wow. At least it wasn’t all the same person.

        1. Actually, a cancer-wielding serial killer came out of the closet, and gave everyone a fright.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Yeah, asshole. We rocked the demising walls all day. I had to screw off by myself. THANKS.

  13. Ken Shultz

    Sometimes, home associations, etc. can be a pain in the ass, and sometimes they can be implemented on housing developments against the will of the developer as conditions of approval.

    In other cases, it’s a perfectly libertarian way to protect the value of your property by voluntary means.

    My folks moved to Rancho Bernardo (North County San Diego) which is the mother of all planned housing developments (with strict codes), back in the 1980s. Those homes were built in the 1970s, and the neighborhood still looks great. There are homes that were built outside of Ranch Bernardo at the same time, but in the same general area, say Poway and Escondido, and those neighborhoods can look run down now. The difference isn’t just the location. The difference is the CC&Rs and the home association rules. They’re onerous. They’re a pain in the ass–and they work to preserve the aesthetics, livability, and value of everybody’s property.

    Go buy a house somewhere else, and you don’t know what the neighborhood will look like in ten years. I know people who moved into $450,000 homes in Las Vegas, circa 2006, thinking they were moving into the lily white Mayberry section of Las Vegas. Within two years, more than half the neighborhood had been repossessed, and the neighborhood became highly diverse–by which I mean full of gangbangers. There were people parking on their lawns, etc., etc.

    That can’t happen in Rancho Bernardo.

    It would be one thing if those restrictions were imposed on people over their objections, but everybody bought these homes with the CC&Rs in place. They’re referred to in your title. If you don’t want to buy a house with those restrictions, then choose not to do so. If Rand Paul bought a house and refuses to live by an agreement that he consented to when he bought the house, then shame on him. CC&Rs are a voluntary means of people getting together and making rules as a substitute for government action. You don’t want the government deciding which shrubbery you can use and what color you can paint your house? CC&Rs are an alternative to that and better than suicide.

    That being said, Rand Paul being wrong about his home association rules doesn’t justify violence against him, and anyone who says that he should have his ass kicked because he’s a libertarian should be ashamed of themselves.

    That being said, it wouldn’t surprise me if Rand Paul said something ridiculous to justify violating his contractual obligations to his neighborhood homeowners. For goodness sake, the man voted against the most libertarian bill to grace the Senate in our lifetimes–in the name of libertarianism. He’s prone to that kind of annoying thinking and behavior.

    Doesn’t mean violence was justified, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s a shitty neighbor.

    1. For goodness sake, the man voted against the most libertarian bill to grace the Senate in our lifetimes–in the name of libertarianism.

      Christ, what an asshole.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      Someone needs to tell Ken that Hans-Hermann Hoppe is spoofing his account.

    3. the man voted against the most libertarian bill to grace the Senate in our lifetimes

      Which bill was that?

      1. The Obamacare Legacy Preservation Act?

        1. Hyperion

          The Obamacare Legacy Preservation and Legalize Heroin Act.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The MexiWeedAssSex Bill of 2015, of course

      3. Ken Shultz

        The one that cut Medicaid spending, $1.02 trillion in spending in total, gave us hundreds of billions more in tax cuts, and eliminated the individual mandate and the employer mandate (among other things).

        It’s funny how some people (not you) can tell you they’re sick of hearing about something and yet zero in on that one thing in a sea of things that had little or nothing to do with it.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

        1. Brochettaward

          Then why is a socialist Jap-tackling him?

          1. Ken Shultz

            “I don’t like Mondays”.

        2. Hyperion

          Right, the bill that would have made sure we’re never rid of Obamacare and that the GOP own it. That one.

          1. Ken Shultz

            When I’m talking about Medicaid expansion, the individual mandate, the employer mandate, etc., that’s a big part of what I’m talking about when I talk about ObamaCare.

            Oh, and in case you haven’t noticed, ObamaCare is still there, and that’s largely because of Rand Paul’s vote. Rand Paul didn’t save us from ObamaCare. If anyone immortalized ObamaCare, it was Rand Paul.

            If he did it by accident, that’s even worse.

            I think he did it on purpose. Maybe it’s like believing that there’s nothing more libertarian than shirking your contractual obligation to your neighbors.

          2. Hyperion

            Ken, puleeease, Rand voted for straight out repeal which is what they ALL promised their constituents. Rand kept his promise, while that geriatric old shitbag, McCain and the 2 democrat lite fembots FAILED to do so. Rand, NOT at fault here. The man has principles, he couldn’t vote for something that did not live up to what he promised the people who put him in office. If we had 99 more Senators like him, this country would be far better off.

          3. Ken Shultz

            Rand voted for repeal for the same reason the GOP did back when Obama was president–and that’s because he knew it wouldn’t pass.

            Voting for something you know won’t pass is not principled anything.

            Refusing to cut $1.02 trillion in spending, refusing to get rid of the employer mandate, refusing to get rid of the individual mandate–when your vote might actually accomplish those things–that’s evidence of a lack of principle.

            Cutting Medicaid in a dorm room is easy.

            It’s when you’re in congress and your vote might actually cut Medicaid that principles matter.

            Rand’s “principles” may have immortalized ObamaCare. They sure as hell didn’t get rid of it.

          4. Hyperion

            No, he didn’t know it wouldn’t pass. It didn’t pass by one fucking vote, crikey, WTF? You really are not being sincere here.

          5. Lachowsky

            Rand voted for repeal for the same reason the GOP did back when Obama was president–and that’s because he knew it wouldn’t pass.

            OK John, I guess you live in Paul’s head and know his motivations.

          6. Ken Shultz

            Everybody knew it wouldn’t pass.

            Everybody.

            Jesus, they didn’t have the votes for replace. Why would they have the votes for an even more radical solution?

            They voted for repeal after Rand Paul caused the replace to fail.

            Just because you like Rand Paul doesn’t mean that facts or history will change themselves to conform to your fantasy.

            The reason McConnell didn’t call for simple repeal, first, rather than replace was because he–and everyone else–knew they coudn’t get it passed.

            This was common knowledge–and still is.

          7. Ken Shultz

            For goodness’ sake, Paul wouldn’t support the Graham Cassidy bill either–and that was after repeal failed.

            If the bill would probably pass with his support, and it would cut Medicaid, then the consistent pattern is that Rand Paul won’t vote for it.

            Regardless, there’s no mystery about which bills will or won’t pass. Rand Paul just did a CYA maneuver, which wasn’t meant to do anything.

            Shit, I go in front of city councils to get my plans approved. You think I’d go up there without knowing how everyone is going to vote beforehand? And that’s some podunk town. You think the Senate leadership doesn’t know how people are going to vote?

            They never bothered voting on Graham Cassidy because they didn’t have the votes.

            No mystery.

    4. Ken Shultz

      Shorter Version?

      Contracts are a way for free individuals to write laws for themselves without input from government, and there’s nothing libertarian about Rand Paul shirking his contractual obligations or violating his neighbor’s contractual rights.

      . . . IF IF IF that’s what he did.

      P.S. Still, no one should use have used violence against him–even IF IF IF he was being a jackhole.

    5. commodious spittoon

      The shocker will be that everyone is right: Paul chose to mow outside the regulated hours, and his neighbor, peeved at this flagrant disregard for the rules, attacks him for his libertarian boorishness.

      1. Vhyrus

        Mow outside regulated hours.

        Just reading that phrase makes my eyes twitch.

        Unless it was at 2 AM with a fucking turbo diesel if it was on his own property literally everyone else on earth can get bent.

        1. commodious spittoon

          I’m talking entirely out of my ass, but I’d bet dollars to donuts there’s a clause in his HOA contract stipulating permissible mowing hours.

      2. Ken Shultz

        Yeah, but there’s nothing libertarian about being a jackass neighbor.

        We should be clear about that.

        Mowing outside the allowed hours is jackhole behavior, but it doesn’t justify violence.f

        On the other hand, because jackhole behavior doesn’t justify violence, that doesn’t mean it isn’t jackhole behavior.

        . . . IF IF IF that’s what he in fact did.

        The media is an unreliable narrator.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          The only reason you (or anyone) have to think he violated his HOA contract is based on the post-hoc justifications of a man under state charges and facing federal charges that turn on his state of mind. A man who, based on his choice of self-help enforcement instead of appealing to the enforcement of the HOA, demonstrates that he has no respect for the HOA contract himself (I think its safe to assume the contracts enforcement mechanism isn’t blindsided physical assault). A man who is making these statements with the assistance of counsel, which I don’t begrudge at all but only bring up to point out that their job is to present the most effective case for their client. Not to go and make a gaff and tell the truth just because its the truth.

          This narrator isn’t unreliable. He’s down right reliable. its just that he’s motivated to say something very particular, and the actual facts on the ground have no bearing on the calculation he needs to take to make his statements.

          1. Ken Shultz

            Did you see me write, “IF IF IF”, not just once but repeatedly?

            Did you see me write that, “The Media is unreliable narrator”.

            Want to tell me that lawn mowing doesn’t justify violence, and I’m right on board.

            But violating your contractual obligation to abide by CC&Rs and justifying it with libertarianism is asinine–even if your name is Rand Paul.

    6. A Leap at the Wheel

      If you don’t want to buy a house with those restrictions, then choose not to do so.

      And if he doesn’t like his property taxes and medical licencing regime, he can move to Somalia!

      1. Ken Shultz

        That’s different.

        Those taxes and licensing regimes were not optional.

        Buying a house with those CC&Rs on them was optional. If he didn’t want them, he could have chosen not to buy it.

        They’re as voluntary as can be.

        Imagine the alternative.

        What if the government came in and said, “No, you’re not allowed to have CC&Rs!”

        That would be bullshit, right?

        Right.

        And they’d be bullshit because those agreements are totally voluntary.

        People pay extra to buy in those neighborhoods because they were built with those CC&R’s in place.

        If you want to take advantage of those elevated prices–but not live by a contract you willingly signed? Then you’re an asshole.

        Stop shitting on people.

        1. Vhyrus

          Serious question: What if the only houses for sale have an HOA? Is it still voluntary then?

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Then it is usually a local government issue. Quite often, localities will force proffers and covenants on new developments in order to get a permit. The solution is to find land outside the planned developments if it exists.

          2. Vhyrus

            That’s what I am saying: what if it doesn’t exist? What if the only options are to live an hour from your job or take a house with an HOA?

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            As my pa would say, “That’s a tough titty, but I guess you’re gonna have to suck on it.’

          4. Ken Shultz

            We answer these questions about poor people all the time.

            You’re free to make choices for yourself. Unfortunately, poverty means having fewer options than other people.

            Still, you’re free to make whatever choices you want–and other people are free to make choices for themselves, too.

            If the only baker in town won’t bake cakes for gay weddings, do you think that makes a difference? Should the baker’s rights go out the window because he’s the only baker in town?

            These are free people associating by way of a contract. If you don’t want to abide by the terms of a contract, don’t sign it. If you don’t have any choice but to live somewhere with a contract like that, then that’s what poverty is all about. Being poor sucks, but it isn’t a license to violate other people’s rights.

          5. Ken Shultz

            It might be added, too, that this was not Rand Paul’s problem.

            Few people move into upscale neighborhoods with CC&Rs because they have no other choice.

            People pay extra to move into a place with CC&Rs because they want them enforced and they can afford to pay extra for such standards.

            Occasionally, you’ll see a city try to impose CC&Rs on a development because they want to be more upscale than they are. They don’t want to be full of trailer parks anymore.

            But that wasn’t Rand Paul’s issue. These are two surgeons living next to each other.

          6. ArchieBunker

            That’s not the case with Rand. Unless he just wanted to be in a upscale neighborhood. He could literally bought a house a mile away with no HOA.

          7. Hyperion

            He’s also married. He may have allowed his wife’s input.

            Wife ‘Honey I want to see people!’.

            Rand ‘People suck, why do you want to see them?’.

            Wife *crying*

            Rand ‘Ok, ok, honey, we can buy that one’.

            Yeah, this is how it works.

          8. Thing is, you don’t really know what Rand’s “problem” is in this case. Just the narrative of some unhinged psycho’s criminal defense attorney and some cock busybody at the HOA with anecdotes.

          9. Hyperion

            The guy was triggered, obviously first of all by that Nazi Trump stealing our Democracy. And if that wasn’t enough, Rand’s microaggressions of not thinking the right way politically was just too much. The only clear solution here is for Rand’s neighbor to be provided with a safe space somewhere in Tahiti with all the amendments, paid for in full by Paul, until his poor victim neighbor can recover from this trauma.

          10. Rhywun

            People suck

            Ah… he IS a libertarian.

          11. CPRM

            What if the only bakery won’t serve gay nazi ass sex cakes?

          12. A Leap at the Wheel

            Answering with an answer I don’t buy into (because like I say elsewhere, I don’t consider all contracts sacrosanct in all cases): The purchases didn’t make a choice. If the only houses for sale have an HOA, he did not chose between an HOA and no HOA. Therefore, his non-existent choice to have an HOA can’t be used against him.

            Illustrative Hypothetical: You walk on your property and the sun illuminates you. You reflect photos onto your neighbor’s yard. Did you choose to pollute his yard?

            No. You did not “chose” to pollute your neighbor’s yard with all your filthy photons bouncing off your body. You acted in a NAP way – walking peaceably in your yard – well within the community norms – walking on your property is a normal thing to do. There was no option not to transmit those photos in the way you have while you engaged in that NAPpy, normal activity. Therefore, you did not pollute your neighbor’s property with your filthy photos.

            Illustrative Hypothetical 2: You did choose to put up 12 huge lamps on the property line and turn them on at dusk. Did you choose to pollute your neighbor’s yard with light? Yes.

            ALTERNATIVE ANSWER:
            Yes. You could rent. You could live in your car. You don’t *need* to own property. Each plot is its own thing, and you don’t get to pick and chose which parts of it you get, because that’s not what’s up on offer. Since the entire package is what’s on offer, you enter into that contract or you don’t. but you don’t get to defraud the seller and others that are depending on their contracts just because you find the alternatives distasteful.

          13. dorvinion

            This crap has infected even rural areas.
            I live in a small town, and I’m looking for land to put a house on.

            As far as I can tell, every piece of land smaller than two acres seems to have some sort of covenant on it.
            Even land that’s like 3 or 4 miles outside the town on a rock road seems to have one. Now its possible that the only requirement is fencing or some such and otherwise build what you want.

            The only stuff that doesn’t is farms being sold as farms. Suffice to say I’m not interested/can’t afford in buying 50+ acres. Although I suppose I could just buy it, then divide…but then I bet the county would bitch about dividing farm land.

          14. Lachowsky

            I live in a small town, and I’m looking for land to put a house on.

            DO iT!!!!

            buy land far out of town and build to your heart and budgets desire. I can raise pigs in front yard and shoot my FAL in my backyard and there isn’t a fucking thing anyone can do about it. If you love freedom, live rural.

          15. dorvinion

            My budgets desire is smallish, inexpensive house.
            Thus the likely need to avoid an HOA that would probably demand a 1800sq ft minimum with many rooflines or other cost inflating BS.

            I can’t live too rural. I telecommute and thus need decent internet, which means WISP or if I’m lucky DSL.
            Actually even if I didn’t telecommute I need good reliable internet. From my pov, satellite is not good internet.

            I grew up on rural land I could shoot on. I miss it.

          16. dorvinion

            The heart desires that smallish inexpensive house too.

            We can afford something dreamy, but that would make us slaves to the house payment.
            Much rather be saving for fun instead.

        2. A Leap at the Wheel

          I should start out by pointing out that I’m not a doctrine libertarian, I’m a classic liberal. I have no problem with the state deciding the it will not lend its enforcement to contracts that are beyond the pale / against policy / etc.

          But to the meat of it, you say it was optional. He could just choose not to live there. I am saying that your underlying logic is flawed and have extended it to its next logical step. As a classical liberal, I don’t buy into the “You have to follow dystopian rules if you want to life in a nice location,” and I don’t care if the scale is large or small when I say “nice location.”

          And I will lastly finish by pointing out that I’m just poking the bear a little bit to get a rise out of you because I’ve been at work for a dozen hours and I have miles to go before I sleep.

          1. …miles to go before I sleep.

      2. Hyperion

        I wish someone could tell me why we’re talking about what hours it was when Rand was mowing his lawn? If it was outside the hours specified by the HOA, that’s between Paul and the HOA. If it was really late, then the neighbor could always call the cops and report a public disturbance. I seriously doubt that Paul was mowing at midnight. Anyway, the one thing it would not give anyone the right to do is tackle the guy and break 5 of his ribs. The POS needs to do some jail time for this and lose his privilege to be anyway near a healthcare facility or around patients. I suspect he could also face charges for attacking a US Senator for political reasons.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Every anaesthesiologist I’ve ever met has been a little off, including my college roommate. There’s something about that career that attracts weirdos.

          1. SIV

            Easy access to pharmaceutical fentanyl.

        2. commodious spittoon

          I made up the lawn-mowing hours scenario. I have no idea what his assailant will claim was his cassus belli. Whatever he says, it’s guaranteed to be bullshit.

          1. Hyperion

            Oh, ok. It’s been a long day and I joined sort of late. And my mind is sort of in a weird state. I had one of those insomnia nights last night that I occasionally have. I’ve had a couple already since DST started. Got up too early yesterday, went to bed at 9PM, which I almost never go to bed that early, woke up at 2am and couldn’t go back to sleep until 6am, got up at 8am. Tired all day, a late meeting with a project team member that went 3 hours and was just almost like a zombie by 5pm. Stopped on commute home, needed to pick up some groceries, and tried to deposit some cash into one of my accounts. The fucking ATM decided to go short circuit on me and ate $40. Had to call the fucking bank and file a claim and was on the phone for a fucking hour. I just wanted to sit down and drink a beer, sigh…

          2. A Leap at the Wheel

            Sounds like you need more hookers and blow in your life.

            Blow, not just for breakfast any more.

          3. Hyperion

            My wife’s always complaining about the hookers and blow, I’m just worn down and settled for beer and a movie.

          4. commodious spittoon

            I popped three benadryl, was out like magic for eight hours. Easily the best night I’ve slept in a couple years.

          5. Hyperion

            That works really well. Sometimes I can take 2 bendryls and 10mg of melatonin, and I will fall asleep like a rock. I almost never have trouble falling asleep. the problem is waking up after 4 hours and cannot go back to sleep. At that point, a strong tranquilizer wouldn’t put me back to sleep.

          6. commodious spittoon

            I hate that. God, how I hate that.

            I’ve have an issue with waking up what feels like dozens of times a night with bizarre persistent dreams. A couple weeks ago, since I’m taking a class on Cisco networking, I was doing network topography in my sleep. None of it made sense when I finally woke up in the morning, and I can’t be sure that I was ever really asleep. I’ve done the same thing with calculus homework, and Minecraft, and random horseshit like when I did reception for the law firm.

          7. Hyperion

            Well, yeah, that’s sort of a different thing. There are a lot of times where I’ve been pondering a particularly difficult problem all day and then I’ll wake up at 3 am and the answer will just come to me instantly. The bad thing about that is that I will go to my desk immediately and start working on it and be up for hours. Not a bad thing when I’m working at home, but if I have to go see a client early morning, it sucks.

    7. CPRM

      I want to own a town, where it is in the contract that I can enter any home at anytime I please. I also want that town to have two factories, one that makes steel drum barrels, and another that recycles steel drum barrels and everyone who doesn’t work at the bar or gas station in town will be required to work at one of those factories. I will be a petty tyrant. But the price of living there will be low, and I’ll make sure the homes are in great condition.

    8. Grumbletarian

      That can’t happen in Rancho Bernardo.

      Actually, it can. All the HoA can do is levy fines against owners whose property fails to comply by the rules, and the fining process and amount should be written down in the association rules for all to see. They can’t force compliance by busting down doors and cracking skulls like the cops. If the owner pays the fines the HoA can’t involve the cops unless some local law is being violated. If the owner doesn’t pay, the association can eventully place a lien on the offending property until all debts have been paid. Granted, most owners will promptly get their properties compliant rather than pay additional money to the association, but not always. I’m the president of my condo association and I’ve been privy to our court cases against troublesome owners.

    9. MikeS

      Jesus Christ, Ken. The Left’s TDS is only matched by your PDS

      1. Ken Shultz

        If the only side you see of any issue is which side Rand Paul is on, then you’re the one with PDS.

        My position would be the same regardless of whether we were talking about Rand Paul.

  14. Rufus the Monocled

    “..Skaggs said he “very much likes” both men, though he noted that Paul “is a very different character than most people.”

    Ooo. Scary. Why can’t you be more like me!

    “He’s a deep believer in his own thoughts,” Skaggs said. “And he believes his own thoughts are right — and they are right 100% of the time.”

    But enough about Obama.

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      “is a very different character than most people.”
      This is classic dehumanization rhetoric, which is always deployed before the state rolls out the violence. They smell bad. They eat spoiled food. They are dirty. They are like animals. They are different. They are a problem. The friendly state has a solution.

    2. Hyperion

      “..Skaggs said he “very much likes” both men, though he noted that Paul “is a very different character than most people.”

      I’m going to have to go ahead and agree with ‘Skaggs’, Paul values personal liberty and has values, which makes him a lot different that most people, who are insufferable assholes who value liberty not at all.

  15. BakedPenguin

    Well, fuck y’all. Imma go watch Seattle beat up Arizona.

    1. Tundra

      We gonna get the next chapter of SNP anytime soon?

      Daughter is getting better on the bass. Choir director asked her to play (and sing) at the next concert1

      1. BakedPenguin

        I was trying to move it to a new platform (technologically), but it’s looking like that won’t happen soon. I’ll get one out ASAP, including a (completely invented) reason as to why it hasn’t come out in a while.

        Congrats to your girl. I have no natural talent on the instrument, but I became a good bassist by sheer will (and practicing 4 hours a day from ages 14-18). If she’s driven, she can be great. If she’s driven and has talent, she can be epic.

        I don’t remember if I linked this – and I understand if the music is too old for her (it kind of is for me, and I’m old), but Carol Kaye is probably the greatest female bassist ever. She played on a lot of Beach Boys records, Simon & Garfunkel, and even played guitar on Frank Zappa’s Freak Out!.

      2. BakedPenguin

        Here’s her Wiki page.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Over lawn clippings?

      1. *stadium applause*

    3. BakedPenguin

      Damn Seattle shitbirds. Who cares if you win if you don’t cover the spread? Assholes.

      1. CPRM

        Sounds like someone might need an intervention.

  16. Gilmore

    Every comic strip can be captioned with “Christ, what an asshole” without impacting its comedic value.

    I could be wrong, but i think this comment was originally made not about ‘every comic strip’… but every New Yorker cartoon, which are all just 1 panel, and often attempt pretty abstruse/overly-intellectual jokes which aren’t really lol-worthy. replacing their caption with ‘christ, what an asshole’ was sort of a replacement-punchline that would spare the reader the labor of trying to decode the cartoonists’ intent.

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      Also works with “i would like to add you to my professional network on linkedin.”

    2. Gilmore

      *this is also a humorless and boring comment. Christ, what an asshole

      re: the story – of course they don’t mention the name of the member of congress who is ‘rooting for the assailant’. because people should be free to snipe at paul without actually having to pay any social or political penalty. what moral superiority they have.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        of course they don’t mention the name of the member of congress who is ‘rooting for the assailant’. because people should be free to snipe at paul without actually having to pay any social or political penalty.

        That is exactly what aggravated me when I first came across the article.

        1. Gilmore

          CNN relies on the rank stupidity of its readership to never notice the obvious incongruity of accusing someone of having a “cantankerous attitude”…. while openly celebrating violence being done upon your senate colleagues from behind a veil of anonymity.

          oh, *that’s not ‘cantankerous’*…nooooooooo, that’s fucking 10X worse: its slimy, misanthropic, and pure moral cowardice.

    3. Heroic Mulatto

      I could be wrong, but i think this comment was originally made not about ‘every comic strip’… but every New Yorker cartoon,

      Correct, but further research was done.

      1. straffinrun

        Is this yours, HM?

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          No, but all of my scholarly work has been done within that theoretical framework.

          1. straffinrun

            I made it to :47. My immunity is building.

          2. Will I ever learn about clicking an HM link?

            It appears not.

      1. commodious spittoon
  17. Derpetologist

    ***
    In chapter I, Schrödinger explains that most physical laws on a large scale are due to chaos on a small scale. He calls this principle “order-from-disorder.” As an example he mentions diffusion, which can be modeled as a highly ordered process, but which is caused by random movement of atoms or molecules. If the number of atoms is reduced, the behaviour of a system becomes more and more random. He states that life greatly depends on order and that a naïve physicist may assume that the master code of a living organism has to consist of a large number of atoms.
    ***

    Neat.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=What_Is_Life

  18. Juvenile Bluster

    Speaking of “Submitted without Comment”, apparently tonight there were the Reason Media Awards. Award-winner Radley Balko:

    “Race is a social construct, it’s a collectivist way of thinking. Libertarians are individualists. If the state is treating people in a collectivist manner, libertarians have a duty to speak up.”

    1. antisthenes

      So, that’s a no on affirmative action, then?

  19. Derpetologist

    The Kernel

    I like the idea of the Great Books series, but it is too much for an ordinary person to read. My idea is to have a condensed version of all the great truths in a book that a person can read in an hour- so about 12,000 words long. It would be organized by topic and consist mainly of quotes, such as:

    If an accusation is all that is needed to condemn someone, who could be called innocent?

    It is not the world that disturbs you but your beliefs about it.

    And so on.

    1. juris imprudent

      Zen derp.

      Koans are a path, not a destination. Developed thought takes more than pithy phrasing.

      1. straffinrun

        A little harsh, but, yeah. You’re not going to become some kind of God by absorbing the “truth” contained in all the best reads. You die in the end.

  20. Juvenile Bluster

    “Can you imagine living next door to that guy?” said one congressional colleague who has regularly tangled with Paul over policy. “I’m pulling for the neighbor.”

    Why do I get the feeling that if it was a Republican in Congress saying this about a Democrat who’d suffered an assault, he or she would not be granted anonymity like this?

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      More than that, CNN would be howling for his or her blood.

    2. Derpetologist

      By the numbers- party affiliation of various professions

      college professors: liberals outnumber conservatives 12 to 1
      journalists: 7% identify as Republicans

      more comparisons
      http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/

      1. Hyperion

        Well, I mean you know it’s just because Republicans and libertarians are too dumb to be professors and too smart to be journalists (the 2nd part wasn’t sarcasm).

    3. Hyperion

      Also, if it was a Democrat, every single Democrat in congress would be howling about how justice needs to be served because of their comrade being attacked. Has any Republicans spoken up about this? Even one?

  21. straffinrun

    “Christ, what an asshole” should be etched on every government building next to the estb. date.

  22. Derpetologist

    Science marches on.

    ***
    Nov. 9 (UPI) — To better understand the limits of survival in our solar system and beyond, researchers exposed microbial communities to conditions replicating the harsh environment found on Mars. The microbes were surprisingly resilient.

    An improved understanding of life’s limits can aid scientists as they search for biomarkers and signs of life throughout the solar system.

    Mars is cold, with an average temperature of negative 63 degrees Celsius. Its air pressure is also several hundred times less than Earth’s and intense radiation, including gamma rays, regularly bombard Red Planet’s surface.

    Scientists at Lomonosov Moscow State University replicated these harsh conditions in a small chamber in the lab. The test subjects included microbial communities collected from the Arctic permafrost. Researchers also sampled layers of ancient permafrost that haven’t melted for 2 million years.

    Astrobiologists estimate the sediment layers on Mars act similarly to ancient Arctic permafrost, preserving microbes in a cryo-conserved state.

    “In a nutshell, we have conducted a simulation experiment that covered the conditions of cryo-conservation in Martian regolith,” Vladimir S. Cheptsov, a post-graduate student at LMSU, said in a news release.

    The tests results showed the permafrost microbes were surprisingly resilient. Prokaryotic cells and metabolically active bacterial cells survived as long as the control communities. Cultured bacteria, microbes growing on nutrient media, didn’t fair as well.
    ***

    1. Hyperion

      I was reading yesterday about how they’re going to send tardigrades into deep space to see how they do. I’m not sure how we’ll know ‘Hey you guys, water space bears, this is Houston, do you read me?’.

  23. A Leap at the Wheel

    Cultured bacteria, microbes growing on nutrient media, didn’t fair as well.

    Cultured cosmotarians hardest hit.

    1. MikeS

      The most disturbing thing I learned from that article?

      His death comes on the heels of CBS’ announcement the network is rebooting the show.

      RIP John Hillerman.

      1. CPRM

        Hopefully my snarky idea from last year isn’t instigated.

        1. MikeS

          If that happens, don’t be surprised if I ask you if you saw the sunrise.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Refers to the last Magnum PI episode.

            Magnum asks Ivan this question and then shoots him in the face.

            MikeS gonna shoot you.

          2. BakedPenguin
          3. CPRM

            Ok.

  24. Gilmore

    I’m watching Boardwalk Empire for the first time. Very much enjoying it.

    one minor quibble; they seem to be unable to go a single episode w/o injecting some SJW issue into 1920s America. It made sense with the whole ‘women’s temperance/suffrage’ issue as well as the whole female sexual liberation thing, which sort of boomed in the 20s, then receded for a number of decades. Racism also obviously has some legit relevance

    but the way they do it is sometimes completely ahistorical and utterly tone-deaf. basically, they try to send 2017 type assumptions back in time and make their 1920s characters mouth conventional thinking. it sometimes comes off completely wrong and destroys the (otherwise well-done) realism the 1920s world

    basically, they try too-hard to paint issues in baldly black-white terms, where people on each side are either clearly of the ‘correct’ (read: modern) or ‘incorrect’ view

    I’m thinking of a couple of incidents in particular…

    …sort of like how the KKK were thrown in to be the stand-ins for ‘racists’, when in fact almost everyone held racist views. the fucking *president* at the time was a virulent racist. and the popularly expressed racism wouldn’t have been limited to blacks; the gangsters themselves – italians, jews, irish – would have been seen as undesirable mongrels by many. but you don’t see any of that, so much, because it would complicate their oversimplified ‘black/white’ narrative.

    or the way the irish widower wife decides suddenly, after playing this extremely reserved and submissive character for 3 episodes, to suddenly and aggressive speak her mind to *senators and leading businesspeople* when the question of the women’s vote came up. she contradicts these powerful men to their face: her boss’s friends. Sorry, not only is out of character for her role, it doesn’t even make any sense. But they all laugh it off like ladies do it all the time. it felt completely contrived.

    then you have the midgets complaining about being exploited. its trivial, but it feels like they have to add this hamhanded layer of “oh, here’s another victim-class: let’s treat them in stereotypical victim-class fashion and make them talk to each other like they were all on Twitter”. It just feels wrong.

      1. Double Gilmore. *sigh*

    1. For me, the guilty pleasure of the senators being portrayed as flagrantly corrupt, getting hammered during Prohibition, and receiving blowies from hookers in a casino was quite enough to overshadow most imperfections.

      1. Gilmored. Belongs under Gilmore’s thread directly above.

      2. Gilmore

        yes, there’s so much good about the show that the things i’m complaining about are really just places where you lose the sense of immersion for a brief second, and think, “i suspect this scene was written by committee”

        i wish i could think of an example where there was a similar period drama, albeit done ‘perfectly’, without these hamhanded attempts to spin ‘race/gender’ conflict in stupidly simplified ways for modern viewers.

        i haven’t yet seen “The Knick”…. and was wondering if it might be different… but the very first clip i found on youtube? turns out to be exactly the same sort of shit that i found so unrealistic

        1. I’m not sure Steve Buschemi is capable of ruining any project he participate. I mean God damn, he even makes Con-Air a tolerable enough romp.

          1. Rhywun

            He is one of my favorite actors. I haven’t seen that show but him being in it might be the one thing that would make me want to check it out.

          2. I’m a big sucker for almost any films that portray the time period between 1880 – 1930. Buschemi is excellent. And honestly the Scottish chick from Trainspotting playing the Irish love interest is pretty good on net.

          3. ArchieBunker

            He is the greatest actor in the history of acting. Shame they had to run hm through the wood chipper.

    1. Gilmore

      which one of us is the “Vampire who is going to cure AIDS”

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Riven.

    2. I contracted HIV from Kurt Wallander

    3. Vhyrus

      Cant be us… there’s a woman there.

      But she does have AIDS, so… maybe I got there first?

  25. Derpetologist

    I have seen this myself.

    ***
    MAYBE OVER-THE-TOP IS TOO SUBTLE…. It never occurred to me that some viewers might think Stephen Colbert is actually a conservative blow-hard. But Jason Linkins highlights this study from Ohio State, where researchers found that the satirical quality of “The Colbert Report” was lost on a surprising number of conservatives.

    This study investigated biased message processing of political satire in The Colbert Report and the influence of political ideology on perceptions of Stephen Colbert. Results indicate that political ideology influences biased processing of ambiguous political messages and source in late-night comedy. Using data from an experiment (N = 332), we found that individual-level political ideology significantly predicted perceptions of Colbert’s political ideology.

    Additionally, there was no significant difference between the groups in thinking Colbert was funny, but conservatives were more likely to report that Colbert only pretends to be joking and genuinely meant what he said while liberals were more likely to report that Colbert used satire and was not serious when offering political statements. Conservatism also significantly predicted perceptions that Colbert disliked liberalism. [emphasis added]

    Linkins added, “I think a lot of conservatives are going to pissed when they realize that Stephen Colbert’s performance at the 2006 White House Correspondents’ Dinner was not, in fact, an awkward and ineffective attempt to praise President George W. Bush, but actually a bitter and satiric criticism of his incompetence!”

    I’m tempted to encourage Colbert to be slightly more over-the-top — so as to help confused conservative viewers who think he agrees with them — but I’m not sure if that’s possible.
    ***

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2009/04/28/maybe-over-the-top-is-too-subtle/

    1. Derpetologist

      ***
      Could it be that American political satire is biased toward liberals in the same way that American political talk radio is biased toward conservatives? Dannagal Young, an assistant professor of communications at the University of Delaware, was looking into the lack of conservative comedians when she noticed studies that found liberals and conservatives seemed to have different aesthetic tastes. Conservatives seemed to prefer stories with clear-cut endings. Liberals, on the other hand, had more tolerance for a story like public radio’s Serial, which ends with some uncertainty and ambiguity.

      Young began to wonder whether this might explain why liberals were attracted in greater numbers to TV shows that employ irony. Stephen Colbert, for example, may say that he’s looking forward to the sunny weather that global warming will bring, and the audience members know this isn’t what he really means. But they have to wonder: Is he making fun of the kind of conservative who would say something so egregious? Or is he making fun of arrogant liberals who think that conservatives hold such extreme views?

      As Young noticed, this is a kind of ambiguity that liberals tend to find more satisfying and culturally familiar than conservatives do. In fact, a study out of Ohio State University found that a surprising number of conservatives who were shown Colbert clips were oblivious to the fact that he was joking.

      In contrast, conservative talk radio humor tends to rely less on irony than straightforward indignation and hyperbole. When Rush Limbaugh took down Georgetown student and birth-control activist Sandra Fluke in 2012, he called her a “slut” in order to drive home his point about state-mandated birth control. After the liberal blogosphere erupted with derision, Limbaugh responded with more jokes, asking that Fluke post videos of her sex online so taxpayers could see what they were paying for.
      ***

      https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/02/why-theres-no-conservative-jon-stewart/385480/

    2. straffinrun

      “Researchers”. Is there a bigger waste of time than this? Cure HIV like the vampire above or GTFO.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        I believe I’ve said it here before, but I do believe that ambiguity tolerance is only second in importance to IQ for psychological constructs that impact our daily lives.

        1. straffinrun

          the results were unreplicable.

          Hop to it.

        2. straffinrun

          So, you’re not going to clarify that for me? *Starts hurling knick knacks at office wall*

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            What needs clarification?

          2. straffinrun

            The “researchers”, conservatives, Colbert, me? Who’s being the prisoner of ambiguity (in)tolerance in your example? I’m easily confused and have a hair trigger temper.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            Oh. It’s just that we all are somewhere on the axis of ambiguity tolerance/intolerance, and the measure of which is predictive of so many things.

          4. straffinrun

            Seen other studies linking IQ and ambiguity intolerance. Suppose it depends on which aspect of IQ you’re looking at. Spatial or language skills.

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            I’ve done studies of which the results suggest that high ambiguity tolerance is positively correlated to better outcomes in adult 2nd language acquisition.

            I would say, that in general, being more willing to accept things you don’t understand yet is a sign of intelligence.

          6. straffinrun

            I’d believe that. The times I’ve misunderstood something, are usually the times I’m trying to force my preconceived idea onto the speaker’s words. Cultural baggage your bring with you tends to corrupt your understanding of what people are saying even if you understand the grammar and vocabulary.

      2. ArchieBunker

        Community organizers

  26. This “Thump” book is definitely on my amazon short-list for the holiday season….dunno if this is the best representation he’s done yet: https://twitter.com/POTUSThump/status/928816024761356288

    (his twitter has had a ton of great pics).

  27. Derpetologist

    Well, well, well. This name looks familiar:

    http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/05/24-live-another-day-jack-bauer-politics-torture-muslims-liberal-tv-show/#
    ASAWIN SUEBSAENG MAY. 2, 2014 10:00 AM

    ***
    In season two, Palmer faces the biggest crisis of his presidency when a nuclear bomb nearly detonates in Los Angeles. Government agencies receive intel that implicates officials from three Muslim countries in the plot. Palmer asks Congress for a declaration of war, but backs down after Bauer suspects that a band of ruthless, amoral capitalists faked an international Muslim conspiracy. Bauer is proven right, and military engagement is averted at the last minute. During the season finale, President Palmer chastises his cabinet for their warmongering, saying that the country should enter a war only “after the strictest standard of proof has been met.”
    ***

    I’m glad I never wasted a moment of time watching that show.

    1. Gilmore

      a band of ruthless, amoral capitalists faked an international Muslim conspiracy.

      they’re on to us!

      the plot to steal all of their goats and oil has been temporarily thwarted

      1. straffinrun

        I like to burn shit down, piss on the ashes and then kill myself. I’m an amoral capitalist.

    1. Which one has the beret and ascot?

  28. Suthenboy

    Grass clippings my ass. This attack on Paul is political. The HOA guy contradicts everything the neighbors are saying. It is a smear job because paul is icky and they dont want the attacker is the ugly face of the violent left. No matter how many times they punch a nazi unprovoked they have to blame the victim.

    Boucher is a foaming at the mouth rabid anti-trumper, anti-GOPer. It is political. Throw his ass in jail for a couple of years and yank his license to practice. This shit has to stop somewhere.

    1. Drake

      Rand has a plan to sue the guy until he’s so poor Rand owns his ass.

      1. juris imprudent

        See, see! Fucking libertarians want to bring back slavery!1!

  29. Derpetologist

    The Bible, condensed

    ***
    GENESIS

    God: All right, you two, don’t do the one thing. Other than that, have fun.

    Adam & Eve: Okay.

    Satan: You should do the thing.

    Adam & Eve: Okay.

    God: What happened!?

    Adam & Eve: We did the thing.

    God: Guys

    THE REST OF THE OLD TESTAMENT

    God: You are my people, and you should not do the things.

    People: We won’t do the things.

    God: Good.

    People: We did the things.

    God: Guys

    THE GOSPELS

    Jesus: I am the Son of God, and even though you have done the things, the Father and I still love you and want you to live. Don’t do the things anymore.

    Healed people: Okay! Thank you!

    Other people: We’ve never seen him do the things, but he probably does the things when no one is looking.

    Jesus: I have never done the things.

    Other people: We’re going to put you on trial for doing the things.

    Pilate: Did you do the things?

    Jesus: No.

    Pilate: He didn’t do the things.

    Other people: Kill him anyway.

    Pilate: Okay.

    Jesus: Guys

    PAUL’S LETTERS

    People: We did the things.

    Paul: Jesus still loves you, and because you love Him, you have to stop doing the things.

    People: Okay.

    PAUL’S LETTERS PART II

    People: We did the things again.

    Paul: Guys

    REVELATION

    John: When Jesus comes back, there will be no more people who do the things. In the meantime, stop doing the things.
    ***

    1. Tundra

      Nice.

      Jesus even simplified ‘the things’ and People still fucked it up.

    2. straffinrun

      Do the Koran. Change the “don’t” to “do”.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        The Koran:

        1. straffinrun

          Allah is a Japanese school girl? Rolls out prayer mat.

        2. juris imprudent

          Glib-Jyllands-Posten — well, it seemed like a good idea at the time

      2. Derpetologist

        Here’s my version: Big Al and Mighty Mo are all that and a bag of chips. Everyone who doesn’t believe this is going to hell, so fuck ’em.

        Here’s another summary:

        ***
        Men who have studied the Koran, rather than men who have been inculcated with the Koran, have concluded that 20% is nonsense. Strip the Koran of its repetitions and it shrinks by 50%. Cut out the abrogated verses and it shrinks another 20%.

        Boiled down the Koran’s lessons are these:

        Allah is not bound by morality nor natural law. He is a whimsical power.

        The only sure way into Allah’s Celestial Whore House is to kill a kafir.

        Men are superior to women in intellect and worth. Women exist for the pleasure of Muslim barrows.

        The Golden Rule of Islam operates only for Muslims. Honesty, kindness, friendship are only to be practised between Muslims. No kafir need apply. Felonies against kafirs are halal!

        Muslims are commanded to wage unrelenting and unmerciful war by any and all means against the kafir.

        Muslims are commanded to be like Mohamed. Everything Mo did is a perfect model of human behaviour. He was a liar, looter, raper, murderer, and kiddy-diddler. He also practised incest but not to worry, Allah, aka Satan, said it was okay!

        Now spread the word. If you insist on reading the Koran a basic rule is, if it sounds nice it has either been replaced by a nasty verse, or, the verse is just meant for Muslims.
        ***

        http://1159pmgmt.blogspot.com/2011/01/condensed-koran-for-folks-in-hurry.html

  30. straffinrun

    Bill Burr seems to think that Hollywood and the NFL only seem to be filled with perverts and violent individuals because we actually watch what they’re doing more closely. I have a feeling he’s only saying that in order to protect his standing in Hollywood. He claims that plumbers probably have just as many pervs in their ranks, but we don’t care because there is not pro bowl for them. Clearly, narcissists and the like are going to be drawn to Hollywood and violent people are going to be drawn to the NFL. It’s amazing that Burr could have such a giant blind spot or is being dishonest out of self preservation. The guy still cracks me up, though.

  31. Lachowsky

    http://5newsonline.com/2017/11/09/church-van-driver-accused-of-raping-teen/

    Were it my daughter, the movie/book a time to kill comes to mind..

    1. MikeS

      The Reloaders Bible also comes to mind.

  32. Lachowsky

    Just a thought. I drive through about 7 miles of river bottoms in the way to work in the morning. When it’s foggy outside, it’s extremely foggy in the bottoms. I was driving through fog so thick this morning that all I could see was the lines on the road.

    This is about the 100th time I have been in this situation. I drive along knowing that if there is something in the road, I’m going to hit it. There is no way I’d be able to avoid it. I’m OK with this. It’s just a part of life. Sometimes we drive blind. Oh well. I’m not sure what that says about me.

    1. Tundra

      We have whiteout snowstorms. Same damn thing.

      It’s good for the reflexes. Getting to your destination safe feels like a victory.

      1. MikeS

        The fun ones are when you’re driving right into the wind and the snow is coming straight at you. Man, that’ll fuck with your eyes.

        1. Tundra

          Grin, grip and pray!

    2. straffinrun

      “We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!”
      ― Douglas Adams

      Wow, this quote fits both yours and HM’s post above.

      1. Lachowsky

        I like Douglas adams.. The hitchhiker’s guide was a great book. The film adaptation was woefully bad.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          He was responsible for that, too.

          But he changed it every time he changed the media it was shown in. (Radio Show, Books, TV Show, Movie)

          1. CPRM

            He just made it all up as he went along, there isn’t really a definitive version.

          2. Bobarian LMD

            Also forgot the computer game.