Wednesday Morning Links

UCL midweek games!  I caught a little bit of the first half of the Liverpool blowout. And then I saw the final score. WTF?  Not a good draw there. Not when Spartak and Maribor also drew.  Man City won. Naples won. Leipzig added to Monaco’s woes. Real won and Spurs won. There were a couple more ties, but nobody worth mentioning.

Just a few games on the ice last night, literally. The Canucks grounded the Flyers. The Blues  tore the Oilers a new a-hole. And the North Stars whipped Les Canadiens.

The CFP poll looked exactly like what we all thought it would. The Atlanta Braves got turned into a farm team for the next 5 years or so by MLB. Holy shit, did they drop the hammer on them. Gabby Douglas is the latest athlete to accuse former USA gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar of sexual abuse. I think we’ve hit 100 on the number of accusers for that creep. And we are just barely three days out from The Game, where my hatred will finally consume me. Fuck ❌ichigan. ⭕️????⭕️

Good boy!

Did you get all that? Well, those of you that haven’t already searched the page for…the links!

Looks like the Mandalay Bay shooting is turning into a jobs program for lawyers. They’re all filing in Los Angeles which, to the best of my knowledge, is hundreds of miles away from the incident.  I hope, at a minimum, that the judges toss the suits and tell the plaintiff’s attorneys to haul their asses to Vegas and file.  But I would be willing to bet a few retarded, gun-grabbing judges will let the cases go forward in the wrong venue just because it’ll give them a chance to grandstand. I’m also shocked nobody has started suing gun manufacturers for it.

Also, what the fuck is going on with that investigation of an older man with no history of violence, no signs of being mentally unstable, who was independently wealthy, moved a lot, maintained few relationships, was never seen at shooting ranges, was never questioned about staying in his room by the hotel that comped his stay, whose computer hard drive went missing after the shooting, whose house was broken into while under control of the FBI and whose winnings were a statistical anomaly for online poker players?  The police and feds haven’t had much to say about that lately. Gee, I wonder why.

These Kennedys aren’t dead. Just drunk.

Hey look: A pair of Kennedys doing what Kennedys do. No, they weren’t spit-roasting a Hollywood star. They were just drunk as shit and raising hell. Thankfully neither of them could find their car keys.

Former Backstreet Boy Nick Carter the latest to be accused of sexual assault.  If her story is true and she told her lawyer, who told her he was too powerful to go after, then that asshole needs to suffer along with her alleged assailant.

On the “preemptive leave of absence” front, the head of Disney/Pixar will be taking time off due to “missteps”.  I swear, these guys are like walking, talking STEVE SMITHs. Perhaps they should start putting out their statement in all-caps.

The jury in the Kate Steinle murder case began deliberations yesterday in San Francisco. I wonder if a not guilty verdict will result in those wacky alt-right “fascists” rioting.  lol, jk. They’ll all be at work.

Hey where the white women at?

Zimbabwe getting ready to swear in new president. I’ll bet you six trillion Zimbabwean dollars right now that he is little better than the guy he served under happily for quite some time until Mugabe’s wife wanted his job.  No word on whether or not white people will be considered for owning land again, as the most racist country in the world continues to circle the drain.

Hey kid, nice shot. (Its a good story, trust me!)

That’s gonna be one hell of a show-n-tell next week.

Think Progress is really concerned with who leaked there Conyers story. A lot more concerned with the leaker than with the substance of the story itself, which is resigned to a place much farther down their site and which also has no mention of Conyers himself but speaks of the “culture” in Congress.  When you don’t like the message, even if its true, try to kill the messenger. Scumbags. (oh, trigger warning: Think Progress!

Here’s today’s song. Ch-check it out. I think you’ll enjoy it.

Go enjoy that last little bit of work before feast day.

Comments

617 responses to “Wednesday Morning Links”

  1. I swear, these guys are like walking, talking STEVE SMITHs

    STEVE SMITH IS SIMPLE RAPESQUATCH. STEVE SMITH HAS TO RAPE BUT NOT CREEPY ABOUT IT.

    1. STEVE SMITH RAPES DESCRIBED AS “WORKMANLIKE”

  2. gbob

    How could this not end well? Homemade rockets? Flat earth conspiracy theories? A hero we deserve.

    1. “And he disappeared in a tower of flame.”

    2. Tundra

      The Kickstarter raised $310 of its $150,000 goal.

      That’s really kind of sad.

    3. Mustang

      “His journey into the atmosflat…”

      *spits beer everywhere, stumbles to a standing ovation*

    4. Hyperion

      What happens if he goes off the edge?

      1. Tundra

        Hopefully one of the elephants will break his fall.

      2. He will land on the Turtle’s back – no worries.

        1. +Infinity all the way down.

        2. Hyperion

          The flat earthers have a website. I went on there and pretended to be interested in their ‘theory’ just to get them to talk to me and see how loony they really are. It’s worse than I thought, seriously, those people need help.

          1. Any of them trolling, or is it for real?

          2. Hyperion

            It’s for real, you can check it out. I don’t know if all of them actually believe the non-sense, but some of them sure seem to. It’s fun to ask them question and watch the mental gymnastics they will go through to prove the unverifiable.

    5. “It’ll shut the door on this ball earth,”

      You said ball Earth.

  3. I’ll bet you six trillion Zimbabwean dollars right now

    I can’t take that bet, the smallest bill I’ve got to cover it is a ten trillion ZBD note.

    1. AlexinCT

      That’s what? A $20?

      1. Fraction of a cent.

  4. Tesla ‘is set to run out of cash in nine months’

    So says an analysis by Bloomberg, which claims the electric-car maker is burning through its cash pile at the rate of $8000 a minute, or $480,000 an hour.

    Tesla would dispute the analysis, since it is increasing output of the Model 3, which will see money come in rather than out. But it still seems likely Elon Musk’s company will need to raise cash at some point.

    Last week Musk said he would ask customers to pay $250,000 upfront for a Founders Series Roadster, even though they won’t get the car for two years. If all 1000 of the cars are sold, that would bring in $250 million. Kevin Tynan, an analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence, estimates Tesla will be required to raise at least $2 billion in fresh capital by mid-2018.

    He said: “Whether they can last another 10 months or a year, he needs money, and quickly.”

    1. Tundra

      They just did a debt offering, didn’t they?

      Last quarter was a shit show. I can’t fathom how people think it’s going to get better.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Have you read some of those believers at Seeking Alpha? Writers or commenters – they BELIEVE.

        Elon is just too genius to them. EV is the future and that’s that and because of that, Tesla is in the best position ever to capitalize on that. Take that.

        1. PieInTheSKy

          I trust Elon. He’s so dreamy

    2. Pat

      I picture Tesla board meetings going a little bit like the WUPHF.com episode of The Office:

      Oscar: What’s your money situation?
      Ryan: Well, it’s tight, as with any start-up.
      Oscar: Sure, how long can you sustain this without a cash infusion?
      Ryan: We have nine solid days. I love these questions. Keep ’em coming.

    3. Now we know why he’s got those tunneling machines.
      Well I’ve got news for Elon: “Die Hard With A Vengeance” wasn’t an instruction manual

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      250K for something you won’t get in two (at best) years! There is something wrong with these people.

      1. straffinrun

        Hillary spent a helluva lot more than that for something she never got in.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          None of that was her money.

          Do you even Clinton, Bro?

      2. Tundra

        They so desperately need a Messiah they are willing to pay a quarter-mil for the privilege.

        1. I’ll piss in their faces for $500 a person. Hell, I’ll give a group rate.

          They’re overpaying.

          1. Psycho Effer

            Tesla investors aren’t looking for that kind of wet work…mostly.

          2. JaimeRoberto

            Go on…

    5. Tesla would dispute the analysis, since it is increasing output of the Model 3, which will see money come in rather than out.

      Where, oh where is this factory located where cars are made with magic free labor and the parts cost nothing?

      1. Count Potato

        The North Pole?

        1. *HoHoHos while slow clapping*

      2. pan fried wylie

        Don’t be an ass, they’ll make it up in volume.

    6. Mustang

      Good.

    7. Count Potato

      LPG engines are arguably as good or better for the environment, and are proven technology, and it doesn’t take hours to refill or swap a tank.

    8. Stinky Wizzleteats
    9. Brochettaward

      Last week Musk said he would ask customers to pay $250,000 upfront for a Founders Series Roadster, even though they won’t get the car for two years. If all 1000 of the cars are sold, that would bring in $250 million. Kevin Tynan, an analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence, estimates Tesla will be required to raise at least $2 billion in fresh capital by mid-2018.

      Musk – biggest shyster capitalism has ever known?

      1. AlexinCT

        This behavior is not capitalism, man. When government picks who wins and who loses, then funnels tax payer’s money to make that reality, at best what we have is the same socialist nonsense the old European fascists and the new fascist movement that pretends to be more socially concerned than the predecessor that had death camps was, and that ain’t capitalism. We should not ever allow people to conflate this vile behavior with a system where people have a right to choose whom they do business with and government doesn’t rig the game.

    10. Suthenboy

      Alternate headline: Without Obama looting the treasury con men run out of money

      1. Hyperion

        I predict that Elon will be a huge Trump fan before too much longer. Also predict it doesn’t work. Maybe he should just take that 250 mil and invest it all in the Hillary 2020 campaign.

    11. AlexinCT

      Government subsidies not enough?

  5. I missed the recipe swap thread. (Boo.) But I figure I share enough unsolicited recipes that I’d just go ahead and post another.

    Three Meat Stew

    1lb 80/20 ground beef
    1lb ground bison
    1lb italian sausage (chopped)
    12-16 oz red sauce (home made or jar)
    1 onion (diced)
    2-3 bell peppers (cored and diced)
    chili powder
    8 oz mushrooms (sliced)
    Shredded cheddar cheese

    Cook the sausage chunks in a frying pan. Drain grease then deposit meat into crock pot.

    Brown or partly caramelized the onion, add to crock pot.

    Brown the beef. Leave liquid in pan, deposit meat in crock pot.

    Brown the ground bison in the beef juices. Add meat to crock pot, discard remaining liquid.

    Add bell pepper, mushrooms and tomato sauce to crock pot. Add liberal dose of chili powder. Cook on high until peppers soften, simmer on low to integrate flavors.

    Serve in bowl with topping of cheddar.

    I have been informed that this is most definately not a chili recipe.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      You had me at “three meat”.

      1. Mustang

        ^this.

    2. Country chicken supper

      A pound of chicken (boneless, skinless breasts and/or thighs)

      1 can of diced tomatoes
      1 can of sliced potatoes
      1 can of sliced carrots
      1 can of green beans
      1/2 bag of rice
      Shredded cheddar cheese

      Cook the chicken, then add the vegetables, and sprinkle a thin layer of rice over the top. When the rice is tender, sprinkle a layer of cheese over the top and wait until the cheese melts.

      Eat with cayenne pepper sauce.

      Substitute fresh vegetables, if desired. We like to sautee an onion in butter, and add it to the mix.

      A good side dish is to sautee diced onions, butter, and sliced squash or zucchini, and lemon pepper.

    3. C&p from September, this is going to be part of our thanksgiving, cept this tinge I’m doing 6 lbs:

      Slow cooker beef short ribs
      ——–
      -3-4 lbs of bone-in beef short ribs – place in the bottom of slow cooker
      -3 large tomatoes, quartered
      -20-30 large fresh basil leaves, coarsely chopped
      -half dozen to a dozen coarsely chopped garlic cloves
      -2 medium shallots or half a sweet yellow onion, diced
      -can of fire roasted tomato paste (optional)
      -few dashes of cracked red pepper (optional)
      -salt and pepper to taste
      -small sprig of fresh oregano
      -cover the ribs in a combo of drinkable red wine and chicken stock.
      ——
      Set to slow cook for 6-8hours and forget.

      Rib bones pull out of the meat easily; remove them. Coarsely break up the meat. Serve over white rice, gnocci, make a panino with it, eat plain, or do whatever you want with it.

    4. Psycho Effer

      I’m bitter that I missed the recipe thread too. I actually look forward more to the leftovers from Thanksgiving than the meal itself.

      I don’t think bison meat is readily available in my area, much to my chagrin.

      1. I’m annoyed that it costs $10 per pound here. It cooks like seriously lean beef.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Like venison, cooking it with a little fatty hamburger, or lard, or bacon, or olive oil can keep it from drying out.

          1. Well, I did specify that the liquid from the beef should be retained before browning the bison. I’ve never gotten the chance to cook venison, so I drew the closest analogue I could reliably speak to.

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          I don’t buy it ground because there is no fat on it. Bison is great for steaks though.

          1. The local supply is limited, and the price on bison steaks is obscene.

    5. Sean

      That sounds great.

      1. It will feed a number of people. (depending on how much each person chows down).

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          Its comments like this that demonstrate to me just how fucked up a good engineering education made me. My initial reaction was “No shit, but what’s the number,” when of course, you meant “it will feed many folks, unless they are all 17 year old boys that play varsity O-line.”

          1. Yeah, I had to leave it nonspecific because I’ve seen people consume a wide variety of volumes, and can’t know what sort of guests you’ve got to feed.

            There have been times when it’s only fed one person – but for 2-3 days.

  6. Evan from Evansville

    In other sports news, Shohei Ohtani will indeed be coming to play in MLB!

    He won both the best pitcher and MVP award in Japan, as he is apparently (For Japan, at least….) a helluva pitcher. I think his last ERA was like 1.55 and he lead the league with something like a .330 average with power.

    That could be really interesting. I’m always afraid of Japanese/Korean players coming over because you never know how they will respond to a higher caliber of play. Kosuke Fukadome made a big splash with the Cubs when he came over, but he fizzled pretty quickly. I think they’re not used to the travel demands—they keep their old practice habits without accounting for the changes of moving to MLB.

    OTOH: Fucking Ichiro. Matsui. Darvish.

    1. I seem to recall a kerfuffle where the Japanese were displeased with some visiting US Umpires because they called plays as they saw them and didn’t favor the star players in the same manner as the local Umps.

      Am I misremembering?

    2. Dude apparently throws gas too. 97 mph consistently. Curious to see where he ends up with the rules the MLB putnin place specifically for him. It pretty much means it will be a bidding war between big clubs. But I still wouldn’t be completely shocked if he went to Seattle.

      Also, the Astros are still world champs. Just thought I’d remind everyone.

      1. Evan from Evansville

        I’ve heard 100mph. I also love that he came over 2 years before he could get the crazy payday he’d get. He’s a young kid and apparently he wants to play against the best as soon as he can. Giving up hundreds of millions to rush out and compete? Respect, son.

        *Cough* Cubs won last year and three NLCS’ in three straight.

        Indeed–Me today. You tomorrow.

        1. He’s not giving up the big payday though, is he? I thought MLB was giving an exemption of sorts under their new posting system for players from other leagues.
          He should still make $3-4M a year for the next two years and then sign for a shitload more. That’s not a typical minor league contract that they’ve been forced to sign Japanese players under 25 in the past.

          1. Evan from Evansville

            Well, he’s probably get 100-150M if he were able to negotiate a contract under the old rules. I’d say that’s a pay cut.

          2. Unproven 23 year olds from a foreign league don’t sign $100-150m contracts right out of the gate. Not even the old Yankees or Red Sox would have agreed to that kind of risk.

          3. Jerms

            If he were to leave this year he is literally leaving around 100 million on the table to come play here. Team that signs him pays 20 million to his old team the Ham Fighters, and can only pay him around 10 million to play this year. Dude is insane for coming over early. Hopefully the crazy fuck will be wearing pinstripes.

          4. I dunno, Sloopy – there are a lot of not very bright GMs under a lot of pressure to produce something to keep their jobs, backed by foolish ownership.

      2. WTF

        You know if the Yankees are really interested they will get him.

      3. Chipwooder

        Enjoy your brief reign before the Yankees re-take their rightful place of dominance.

        1. Jerms

          Im still pissed they got rid of Girardi–i just dont get it.

        2. Coming up on 2 decades of saying that, right?

        3. thepasswordispassword

          Capitalism Ho!

    3. Think of the Japan League as the American equivalent of AA and it all makes sense.

  7. Damien Meyer/Getty Images How Our Broken Justice System Led to a Sexual Harassment Crisis
    A series of powerful men have been accused of serious crimes, with little legal accountability. Sound familiar?

    Today, any reasonable observer has to have lost some faith in traditional modes of justice to protect the weak and the powerless.

    That’s doubly true in the case of sexual harassment, which women (and men in many cases) have endured for far too long. Women faced skepticism and outright disbelief when they spoke out. Despite the almost universal presumption that the absence of human resources departments facilitates abuse, human resources departments or structures set up in the workplace to report abuse often work in the interests of protecting the company, not protecting victims. Non-disclosure agreements and private arbitration have allowed corporations to silence women, with the force of law. And when alleged serial harassers like Weinstein and Bill O’Reilly settled disputes out of court, they did so while admitting no wrongdoing—a tactic familiar to Wall Street banks that agreed to pay financial crisis–related fines.

    Before the Clarence Thomas hearings in 1991, there was barely even a language for sexual harassment in the workplace. And even now, despite mandatory training sessions featuring cheesy videos, a culture of silence has predominated. This culture gets reinforced by a culture of no accountability for people with power. Victims have come to believe that law enforcement doesn’t work in their interests when their abuser is prominent, or even if the abuser simply wields some degree of power over them. So they turn to our digital town halls and document their stories.

    TW: New Republic

    1. straffinrun

      The Catholic Church shuttled around sex-abusing priests for decades with little reckoning.

      They never let that die, rightfully. However, they somehow forget to mention that public school teachers have a higher percentage of pervs in their ranks.

      1. AlexinCT

        This shit started IMO when Clinton was given a pass because he held the right beliefs and ideas according to the inquisition going after men that were against the communist takeover these assholes were demanding. I pointed out to many that as soon as powerful people you felt were good for your movement got a pass, a lot of powerful people paying lip service to your nonsense would start doing this shit. I was called a crazy right wing Nazi for daring to point out this had little to do with sex and everything to do with character and with abuse of power (especially all the lying after).

        I am ecstatic to see the system now eating its own. Pass the fucking popcorn bitchez.

    2. wdalasio

      You know, if someone were interested in actually addressing the existence of sexual harassment, it might make sense to look at the patterns of where it happens. I mean, I’ve been in the workforce for the better part of 25 years and I’ve never run across these sorts of situations. Yet, some industries seem to be plagued with problems – show business, journalism, politics. Yet the people screaming the loudest about sexual harassment seem bound and determined to pretend its a homogeneous problem. You’d think, if for no other reason than to be more convincing, they’d look into what drives variations in the frequency of there being problems.

      1. straffinrun

        Of the dozens upon dozens of stories of sexual misconduct recently, how many have resulted in actual criminal charges? The only one I heard anything about was the NYPD looking at a Weinstein case.

        1. Boor < harassment < assault < rape.

          Only the last two are criminal. The second one can get you sued. The worst the first can do is cost you a job and reputation. The allegations span the spectrum, but agregate near the first two.

          1. straffinrun

            Interesting how most the cases tend to be the first two. Eventually, they have to prove the latter two are widespread if they want to use this panic to get legislation.

          2. wdalasio

            And I don’t think you can show that. Some of this reminds me of the old lawyers’ adage I’d heard years ago – If the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If the law is on your side, pound the law. If neither is on your side, pound the table.

            That said, the fact that the progs’ desire for more legislation isn’t justified, doesn’t make the first two instances appropriate.

        2. ElspethFlashman

          Well, of course part of the problem would be the “staleness” of some of the complaints. I’ve had cases for neglect/abuse where a child discloses abuse by a parent years after the fact, and although that child may be convincing, and give “good” i.e. credible testimony, that doesn’t result in criminal charges, since the prosecutor makes a judgment call, mostly based on the length of time that has passed.
          Most often the result is: The parent will still face a potential termination of parental rights based on the neglect/abuse charge, but never sees criminal charges, even though the neglect/abuse prosecutor is in the same office as the prosecutor for the criminal charges.
          Just my two cents.

          1. straffinrun

            Good point. A lot of the complaints are from years ago. If there is so much rapin’ going on, point one out. We’d all get behind prosecuting the bastard. Problem is “men-can-be-assholes culture” doesn’t have the same ring as “rape culture”.

      2. invisible finger

        “show business, journalism, politics. ”

        In short, unskilled labor.

      3. A Leap at the Wheel

        >show business, journalism, politics.

        Add academia to the list. These are all tournament fields where cohorts of young people all aspire to reach a very small number of coveted slots. The young folks are well known to be underpaid, living in shitty conditions, eating ramen, and willing to stab a friend in the back to move up. The old folks that select the winner are known to use that position to their advantage – above board that means long hours, low pay, and shitty work conditions. Below board that means taking sexual advantage of the young and hungry.

        The fact that these are all left wing institutions is not lost on some observers… And that’s why you can say you’ve been in the regular economy for 25 years and never run across this. You probably haven’t because there’s probably no tournament where you are at.

        1. Suthenboy

          “The fact that these are all left wing institutions is not lost on some observers… ”

          My wife pointed that out this morning. “Wow, all these guys seem to be liberals…”

    3. Akira

      I can’t help but think the outcome would be a lot different if some of these accusers had come forth with actual evidence.

      If someone broke into my house and stole my TV, and I then fixed the broken window, cleaned up the glass, wiped off all the fingerprints, replaced the TV, and waited a few years, nobody would find it unreasonable if the police paid little attention to my claims. It certainly wouldn’t be correct to claim that the justice system is “broken”. People would say that it’s my fault for not reporting the crime when it could be proven, and they would also criticize me for allowing this criminal to get away and do the same thing again.

      There are prosecutions for rape and sexual assault all the time when there is evidence.

  8. Pat

    Former Backstreet Boy Nick Carter the latest to be accused of sexual assault.

    Backstreet’s back, alright.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Bend over, I’ll show you a backstreet boy.

      1. AlexinCT

        HEY NOW!

      2. bacon-magic

        Canadian harasser!

        1. Count Potato

          What’s that aboot?

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      I’m surprised the accusations are coming from a woman, honestly.

      1. Count Potato

        #metoo

  9. First!

    Well, in earlier than usual anyway due to jet lag. Have some of the best modified sweat glands nature has to offer.

    http://archive.is/6MSal

    1, 15, 38, 40

    1. Count Potato

      “Researchers surveyed 32,000 men from 1992 to 2010 and found that participants who reported ejaculating at least 21 times per month during their 20s were 19 percent less likely to develop prostate cancer than those who ejaculated seven times per month or less.”

      https://www.attn.com/stories/17751/surprising-benefit-ejaculation

      1. … less than twice a week? Even if it was solo, what guy was that abstinant?

        1. The King of the Castle.

        2. Bobarian LMD

          Were they surveying people without arms?

          21 times per month during their 20s sounds like abstinence, seven times per month or less sounds like a boiler getting ready to blow

          1. B.P.

            Yeah, if this is an actual problem for the 20-something crowd, there needs to be a public information campaign.

            *The More You Know*

      1. AlexinCT

        Well DUH! This inquisition was about hurting team red, not causing some major self inflicted pain, so Franken gets a pass just like that old goat Bill Clinton did, because they are team blue!

    1. 22%?

      Does that mean 78% think he should go? What was the undecided bracket?

      1. leonadasiv

        That’s probably why the poll is reported that way. To imply that he should leave. I bet if you asked people if he should leave you would get a similar # because people are sheep and easily led to the answer you want.

    2. Isn’t that worse than Trump’s approval rating?

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Nothing is worse than approving of Trump.

        /Prog Hard

  10. Bigfoot debate: Spirit or science?

    Mel was in the forest one day, and he came upon what he described as a Bigfoot nest. He said the nest was woven together with a particular kind of fir tree, and that there was hair rubbed into the walls of the nest. He collected some of the hair samples.

    Mel said that he put the hair samples in a desk drawer for a long time and over time, nearly forgot about them. Eventually the sample resurfaced, and Mel sought guidance from tribal elders on what to do with the material.

    Mel then described a surreal “house cleansing” ceremony that involved dark rooms, visions and the sound of “dancing footsteps” of the creature. The elders said “the creature was mad that (you) took the hair, and he wants it back.”

    Throughout the evening, Mel used his voice to imitate the sounds the Bigfoot creatures made. Strong-pitched erie howling, whistling, grunts and growls. Theories swirl – can it be communication of warning? Contact with other creatures? Territorial?

    1. WTF

      Let me guess, no DNA analysis of the hair to see if it’s a bear or something.

    2. STEVE SMITH NO MAKE NEST – HAS NICE CAVE, OUTFITTED WITH LATEST AND GREATEST APPLIANCES AND WIDESCREEN TV.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        ONLY FURNITURE AM SWING AND WATERBED…

        *WINK*

        LADIES HIKERS.

  11. ChipsnSalsa

    On the “preemptive leave of absence” front, the head of Disney/Pixar will be taking time off due to “missteps”.  I swear, these guys are like walking, talking STEVE SMITHs. Perhaps they should start putting out their statement in all-caps.

    Yet we are the ones getting stuck taking sexual harassment training.

    1. Every year. The content never changes. Luckily the “training” is electronic, so I don’t have an instructor getting annoyed at my snarking the unchanging material.

      1. *to clarify, there are a half dozen of these “Mandatory Training Courses” that all state employees are required to take every single year. Anyone who’s been here more than two years has seen everything in all of them and it’s really a massive waste of time.

        1. Akira

          Yep.

          The employees at the prison had to take those. They had retardedly easy questions like “True or False: It is appropriate for a correctional officer to force an inmate to give them sexual favors.” The quizzes would give you infinite attempts.

          One of them had some surreal video that consisted of CGI heads spinning around over a Matrix-esque backdrop of bright green zeroes and ones. You can bet that some governor’s brother-in-law owns a video production company that got paid a few million for that little masterpiece…

          That’s why it irks me to hear people (like Hillary Clinton) ranting about how we need to “retrain” our police officers who have been committing murder on the job. I know what that training will be; it will be some dumbass video with 10 multiple-choice questions. Just a giant waste of taxpayer money with no payoff whatsoever.

      2. AlexinCT

        When I was working at GE back in the mid 1990s, I had to take a sexual harassment class because a senior VP had been caught replacing the VCR tape in the motion activated camera he had placed in a female senior VP’s bedroom by the female VPs husband whom had returned home unexpectedly when they were supposed to be away. The company knew these two VPs had some history. The end result was that they paid her millions to shut up, paid him money to go away, and forced all of us to go to a class so their lawyers could then blame us for them not doing their job. Anyway, I walked into the class and asked the young and nubile lady that was teaching it whom I had to harass to pass this nonsense and go back to work, and they ended up punishing me by making me take the idiotic class twice.

        1. dbleagle

          In the summer of 2016 when the Clinton email issue was fully in the press it caused much carping throughout DoD about how there was an obvious double standard concerning classified material. In the midst of this brouhaha DoD put out a requirement for the entire DoD to retake annual Handling Classified Materials training- even if you had just completed the annual requirement. I can’t fathom the amount of lost man hours from that boondoggle. If the other Departments did the same thing the costs to the taxpayers was well nigh astronomical.

          1. Not an Economist

            A normal person who did what Clinton did with the classified email would have lost their clearance and their job. During the investigation if they had expressed the same attitude as Hillary did they probably would have been sent to jail just to send a message.

            And setting up a private server to bypass FOIA (and criminal investigations) is another mess that probably didn’t get the play that it should have.

          2. A Leap at the Wheel
          3. Akira

            And setting up a private server to bypass FOIA (and criminal investigations) is another mess that probably didn’t get the play that it should have.

            I’ve heard it dismissed as “she just had a home computer that she used for work“.

    2. Pat

      Perhaps apropos:

      Why sexual harassment training doesn’t work

      According to King and Lipnic, sexual harassment training is more effective in person. Perspective exercises, like imagining oneself or a loved one on the receiving end of an unwanted touch, for example, encourage empathy, King says.

      It’s crucial, too, that leaders across every stratum of a company attend training with their employees: not only does this underline the fact that people in power are not immune from disciplinary action if they fail to behave respectfully toward colleagues, according to King, it also “conveys the seriousness with which they take the topic and the subject matter.”

      Yeah, that’s the problem…

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Article would have been better in pidgin.

        holy crap! I tried to just put “pidgin” in the URL and I got this 404 error

        wow

        1. Dem no see page

        2. ron73440

          That was fucking hilarious

        3. invisible finger

          There HAS to be pidgin versions of the harassment training materials.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        Rufus (raises hand).

        Teacher: Yes? You with the Snidely Whiplash Snerdly grin and posture.
        Rufus (stares at girl next to him): Are we gonna act out the material?
        Teacher: Yeah. That’s not good.

        1. AlexinCT

          Sexual harassment training has nothing to do with preventing that in the workplace, and everything to do with the company making sure they can protect their asses in court when the senior people end up accused and someone comes for a big payday.

      3. Bobarian LMD

        more effective in person…

        like imagining oneself or a loved one on the receiving end of an unwanted touch, for example,

        OR SPENDING TIME IN STEVES CAVE.

    3. I’ve found that – at least at my company – that HR has very little ability to enforce mandatory training. I just vacation or skip around the “classes”. They get a little irate, suggest I reschedule, but gosh I’m just too busy to attend. It took me 6 years before I took the “Diversity” class. And somehow I never took the “retraining” one.

      1. *glances about shiftily* One of the myriad systems I support is the software that runs the training programs. We’re kinda expected to not avoid the manditory training by our direct management. It would make us look bad.

      2. AlexinCT

        Been there and done that. In fact I quit a job and moved to another company when my previous employer game me shit for missing these mandatory classes. I told them I had real work to do and if the company felt my time needed to be spent doing this shit, it was time for a change in employment. For some reason my current employer really doesn’t care if I participate in this nonsense anymore either.

    4. Funny – the last head of HR at my company got canned for sexual harassment. So the guy who was mandating the classes ended up being a total horn dog who couldn’t stop making sexual jokes and lewd comments to his (mostly female) underlings.

      1. My last company VP of HR got shit-canned after getting hella sloppy drunk at a company function and then hanging all over several of the men in charge. She wasn’t half-bad looking, but it was still pretty embarrassing.

        1. Hyperion

          I worked for one company where they canceled the yearly office Christmas party because the head of HR got too drunk. This was a couple of years before I started there. I was asking what he actually did and couldn’t find anyone willing to tell me, until finally someone did, sort of. Apparently he had to take a piss, but didn’t do it in the normal place, but somewhere in the offices, in front of several people. He was still there when I left, just no Christmas parties. Why didn’t they just ban that guy from parties? I guess it’s always better to punish everyone.

          1. B.P.

            Consider yourself lucky. Office holiday parties are one of the concentric circles of Hell.

          2. Hyperion

            Yeah, I know. But free food and booze!

        2. Akira

          At the Christmas party for this factory where I used to work, a supervisor and a QA inspector – both females – started making out in front of everybody (the QA lady was kind of MILFy, but the supervisor was ugly).

          Naturally, the word got around extremely quickly. The QA lady got so sick of the gossip that she walked off the job, stopping on her way out to carve “fuck [company name] and God bless America” onto a table.

    5. Old Man With Candy

      We had ours via an online “e-learning” system. I turned down the sound on the videos and supplied my own dialog and SFX. Trust me, mine was much more interesting than the original.

      1. AlexinCT

        Did you play this while looking at the silenced video?

  12. Tundra

    32 is a ringer!

    I like 43, too.

    1. Tundra

      *nods to Gilmore*

    2. An excellent ringer she is!

    3. creech

      32 and her friend 28 are welcome aboard anytime!

  13. Pat

    Uber concealed cyber attack that exposed 57 million people’s data

    Hackers stole the personal data of 57 million customers and drivers from Uber, a massive breach that the company concealed for more than a year.

    This week, the ride-hailing company ousted Joe Sullivan, chief security officer, and one of his deputies for their roles in keeping the hack under wraps.

  14. How Did This Weird, Super-Salty Pond Form in Antarctica?

    At the bottom of the world, in a frigid Antarctic desert, sits a weird pond only a few inches deep that is so salty, it stays liquid even at temperatures of minus 58 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 50 degrees Celsius).

    The source of the pond’s unusually heavy and pure load of salt has been a geochemical mystery since it was discovered during a 1961 expedition. Scientists had generally assumed that Don Juan Pond — a play on the names of the expedition’s helicopter pilots — was fed by deep groundwater, but a widely publicized 2013 paper suggested the salts came from a shallower source.

    1. Pat

      It’s made from the tears of Hillary supporters.

      1. Concentrated STEVE SMITH semen.

      2. straffinrun

        Or it’s where Monica gargled and spit.

        1. Shit. It’s Gilmore-palooza round here.

        2. Pat

          Saying sorry is a time honored tradition in Canada.

        3. Brochettaward

          There needs to be a law against politicians apologizing for entire countries.

        4. What the fuck is the 2 on the end of LGBTQ2? Are we doing something for people with split personalities now?

          1. If my current alphabet soup brigade translator is patched correctly that aseembly ends with “Queer and Questioning”.

            Though both of those categories are bullshit.

          2. We have a Q2 Bistro here that serves Asian fusion.

            Who knew they were queer and questioning?

          3. The Last American Hero

            And yet still no G2.

            Where is the love for the genderfucks out there?

    2. It is the Old Ones’ leftover hottub, duh!

  15. Tundra

    Bad news, watermelons:

    Shock!

    About the Paris Accord? Go fuck yourselves.

    *EDIT FAERIE HAD A LOT OF WORK ON THAT ONE*

    1. Mustang

      Gilmooooooorrrre!!

      1. Tundra

        No, that was a SF.

        1. Mustang

          Sugarfreeeeeee!

        2. ChipsnSalsa

          Tundra is going for the cycle! What else does he need?

          1. Tundra

            Just a fight, I think.

          2. I would rather not, but if it helps…

            *drops gloves, begins circling Tundra*

          3. Tundra

            Woohoo! A Tundra hat-trick!

            *drops gloves*

          4. Shit! Tundra got the drop on me!

          5. OK, Linesmen saved me from too bad a beatdown.

            10 minutes for that one. Sigh.

          6. straffinrun

            Abuse yourself with your own editing power. *Cheers* to you, Swiss.

      1. So, this implies that your town’s lame plastic bag ban is totes working right?

        1. AlexinCT

          Some third world nations are ruining things, and our elites have decided a wealth redistribution scheme – one that drastically enriches them I might add – is the answer to the problems…

        2. JaimeRoberto

          It’s sure working to spread hepatitis because now the homeless don’t have a bag to poop in.

      2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        This should surprise no one, nice to know that we now have hard data though.

    2. I get a “Bad Request” from the web site. Probably violates sexual harassment policies…

      1. Count Potato

        Only a flying woodland dominatrix could fix it.

    3. Tundra

      Wow. Thanks, edit faerie!

  16. John Lasseter (from,the “Pixar” link). Directed Toy Story and Toy Story 2. How many toys felt threatened under his leadership, I wonder?

    I think he is apologizing for being a “hugger”.

    The secret, I suppose, in surviving these accusations is to deny them consistently. This tactic works even better if the allegations are not true

    1. STEVE SMITH HUGGER TOO. BY HUG, MEAN RAPE.

  17. How #MeToo Is Pushing The Equal Rights Amendment To Get Ratified Once And For All

    Cardin, a sponsor of another bill, told USA Today that he believes that it is a crucial time for the ERA’s ratification, saying: “It’s not the ideal moment, but I think the issue of gender equality and the need for Constitutional protection has never been more obvious. I know the political climate we have, but I think the case is pretty strong right now.”

    Cardin added that many Americans do not realize that men and women are not guaranteed equal rights under the law and, if they did realize this, “I think there would be more of an outrage, and particularly with what we’ve seen recently.” According to Newsweek, a 2016 poll conducted by the ERA Coalition/Fund for Women’s Equality found that 80 percent of Americans believe men and women are already guaranteed equal rights under the Constitution.

    LastWord If we want to change the culture we need to begin by ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment! Remove the excuse to view women as less than! #TheResistance
    — (@preinsko) #

    1. I don’t think the people pushing the ERA are prepared for what it would actually mean when applied to procedural presumptions in Family Court, etc.

      1. WTF

        Registering for the draft…

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      Cardin added that many Americans do not realize that men and women are not guaranteed equal rights under the law

      I did not realize that Dude.

      1. JaimeRoberto

        Doesn’t the 14th Amendment cover this?

        1. JaimeRoberto

          I’m guessing the author is thinking of positive rights rather than negative rights.

          1. ChipsnSalsa

            Like, free tampon rights, I think.

          2. Psycho Effer

            Positive rights and negative responsibilities.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      What constitutional rights do men have that women don’t?

      1. The right to get drafted and blown to smithereens in a war while the woman he’s married to is forced to stay home and be hardest hit by the hostilities.

      2. pan fried wylie

        Like, all of them. I don’t have any can’ts left to just even with you.

        1. ElspethFlashman

          Nicely put . . .

    4. “Remove the excuse to view women as less than!”

      Less than what?

      Vagina < (?)

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Guzzinta?

    5. wdalasio

      Cardin added that many Americans do not realize that men and women are not guaranteed equal rights under the law….

      Then what, exactly, is the point of the Equal Rights Amendment?

      That’s the thing I’ve always been skeptical about with this. I mean, I know what the First Amendment does. It says the government can’t establish a religion, prevent people from exercising theirs, or stop people from saying what they want to. I know what the Second does. In theory, it stops the government from taking away people’s guns. I know what the 17th does. It establishes the direct election of Senators. But, I really can’t figure out what the Equal Rights Amendment is supposed to change. And when the people urging a law, let alone a Constitutional Amendment can’t tell me what they want to do with that law, I get very suspicious very quickly.

    6. Playa Manhattan

      I, for one, look forward to more women garbagemen. Err… garbagepersons.

  18. Derpetologist

    some nice mild derp to start your day

    How to Improve Capitalism
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOaJe68C-bU

    1. Brochettaward

      We could paint some badass flames on the side and put a racing stripe down the middle.

      1. Gilmore

        +1 fuzzy dice

        1. Count Potato

          A plastic Jesus and an eight-ball shifter should give it at least another 20 horsepower.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            And a coffee can muffler…

            /Mild Derp he says. Holy shit, I say.

          2. Count Potato

            It reminded me of coffee can fuel coolers. Run a coil between the pump and the carb inside a coffee can, and fill it with ice before the race.

          3. what does that net you?

          4. Bobarian LMD

            That actually works (unlike this other shit) by keeping your fuel cool, it increases the charge density (cooling the air-fuel mixture in the cylinder) which means more compressed combustion.

            An intercooler on a turbocharger is the same process. This particular process is only really good for drag-racing and makes only a minor difference at the bleeding edge.

            The Dodge Demon actually redirects the AC during launch mode to do the same thing.

      2. Sean

        I had a 74 Chevelle Laguna at one point in time. Someone (not me) had put stripes on it and bedazzled scorpions into the sun visors. Yes, really. It was pimp-tastic, but super comfy to cruise around in and smoke up. Oh, and it had the captains seats that swiveled 90 degrees for super ez exits. Good times.

    2. AlexinCT

      If what we had going on in this day and age of big government socialism had any real link with capitalism, we could actually talk about how to improve capitalism.. This crony system where government picks the winners and losers ain’t capitalism. The solution is to actually prevent government from picking who/what wins and who/what loses.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      John hardest hit.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Banning alcohol consumption might help.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      Crazy idea: just give them 2 pills.

      1. invisible finger

        one pill should be enough, if it’s cyanide.

  19. Pat

    Android devices seen covertly sending location data to Google

    An investigation by Quartz has revealed that Android devices send cell tower location data to Google even if the user has disabled location services for apps in their device settings.

    Quartz also said it observed location data being sent even if devices had been reset to factory default settings. Android devices with a cellular data or a wi-fi connection were seen to send the data to Google each time they came within range of a new cell tower — including devices with no SIM cards installed (these offloaded the location data via wi-fi, where available).

    It says there is currently no way for Android users to prevent their location data from being sent to ad targeting giant Google — short of removing SIMs from their devices and disabling wi-fi (or else leaving the devices inside a faraday cage).

    1. DOOMco

      Yeah my phone will do this.

    2. AlexinCT

      Anyone that believes these fucking giant conglomerates are not abusing their privacy is a moron.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      I had a guy in my shop go AWOL once. Our foreman spoke with the first sergeant and chief and wound up in the Office of Special Investigation (OSI) office. He described it as a row of desks pointed at a bunch of interactive maps. He gave OSI his cell phone number, they pinged it and found him at a casino in Cripple Creek, CO on the other side of the front range. I find this significant because everybody complains about the lack of signal in that town since it’s so far in the mountains. I guess what I am getting at, is everybody you don’t like knows exactly where you are.

  20. Catholic school forced to cover up accidentally ‘suggestive’ statue of saint giving boy bread

    The statue of Saint Martin de Porres, shown giving a loaf of bread to a young boy, was installed outside Blackfriars Priory School in Adelaide last week.

    But unfortunately for school staff, the sculpture ended up looking a little, er, indecent.

    Saint Martin is producing the loaf from his cloak and, at first glance, it can look a little like something else.

    The unintentionally provocative design has sparked a wave of social media activity, forcing the school to take action to cover up the unfortunate statue.

    This bread comes with a price, helpless orphan.

    1. Pat

      It looks even dirtier with the tarp throw over it so all you can see is the figures from the knees down.

      1. I thought that was a burka to celebrate diversity.

    2. They just can’t do great art, these days.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Apparently they can, people just don’t appreciate it.

    3. “He was hung like a bread-giving Priest”

  21. Pope Jimbo

    Minnesoda man bringing his gun in for servicing shuts down Minnesoda mall.

    A man with a gun in a case walked into the Eden Prairie Center on Tuesday and prompted a lockdown after police received calls about a weapons sighting.

    But the man — who left the mall before the lockdown — was simply bringing his weapon to a sporting goods store for service, police said.

    The mall was shut down for about 45 minutes until police got to the bottom of the situation and realized there was no danger, according to a statement from the Eden Prairie Police Department.

    The Scheels store that he brought the gun to does not offer gunsmithing at that location.

    1. straffinrun

      Doesn’t it look more creepy with them both under a black blanket?

      1. straffinrun

        That was the same posting with in a minute and the same reply within three.

    2. Tundra

      A man with a gun in a case…

      /headdesk

    3. Playa Manhattan

      Nice lockdown.

      The guy was gone before it happened, and he presumably wasn’t even running away.

  22. Derpetologist

    for stinky wizzleteats:

    Man breaks Guinness record by stuffing 459 straws in his mouth
    https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2017/11/20/Man-breaks-Guinness-record-by-stuffing-459-straws-in-his-mouth/3091511192896/?utm_source=sec&utm_campaign=sl&utm_medium=19

    ***
    Nov. 20 (UPI) — An India man is headed for the Guinness Book of World Records after stuffing a staggering 459 drinking straws into his mouth at once.

    Guinness confirmed Manoj Kumar Maharana, 23, of Odisha, broke the world record for most straws stuffed in the mouth without using hands by cramming 459 straws into his pie hole.

    Maharana, who was allowed to use elastic bands to keep the straws together but not his hands, has to have all of the straws in his mouth and keep them there for 10 seconds without falling to obtain the title.

    Maharana was allowed to use his hands to get the straws into his mouth, but not to hold them in place.

    The previous record holder, British man Simon Elmore, stuffed 400 straws into his mouth at an event in Germany.
    ***

      1. Derpetologist

        Same reason people climb Mt Everest.

        Because it is there.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Color me impressed.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            I was waiting for you.

    1. pan fried wylie

      and keep them there for 10 seconds without falling to obtain the title.

      Derp, that’s part about guiness world records I keep fucking up. “Just do it without failing to obtain the title this time”, I keep telling myself.

      “You have to win if you want to win.”

    2. ElspethFlashman

      That would definitely trigger my gag reflex.

    3. B.P.

      All of those plastic straws ended up in the Ganges River, right?

    1. SugarFree

      She doesn’t support Trump enough to excite his loins.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Meghan’s not as beefy as she used to be, either.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Everyone drops a few pounds for the wedding. She’ll be back.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      “It’s like a non-profit, but better,” Katherine Lo, its founder, explained. It’s better because it will make the Lo family lots of money from the smug and stupid leftists paying premium prices for identity politics.

      Related to the Tesla article above.

    2. Count Potato

      I’ve read that twice, and I’m still not sure if it’s parody.

      1. Drake

        I can see an experienced hotel manager launching this business – purely to fleece sucker SJWs.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        “Instead of a Bible, there’ll be a United Nations pamphlet”

        I’m leaning towards parody.

  23. Pat

    All The Ways Trump Could Hurt Black And Hispanic People By Messing Up 2020 Census

    The Trump administration might be moving to mess with the 2020 Census in ways that would strip minorities and Democrats nationwide of their power in representation.[…]

    There are a number of ways Brunell, who would serve as deputy director of the U.S. Census Bureau, could alter the census to aid Republicans and hurt minorities. Trump is considering adding a question about citizenship that could cause a large drop in the Hispanic response rate due to a fear of how the government might use that information in its crackdowns on immigration.

    People who aren’t eligible to vote and whose presence in the country is illegal might lose their representation!

    1. Don’t worry, they’ll make up for it in dead voters.

    2. leonadasiv

      I don’t understand why states should get to count people who are not citizens towards their electoral and representative allocation.

      1. Cause it benefits Dems duh!

        1. AlexinCT

          ^^^^THIS^^^^

      2. Pat

        Maybe we could come up with some kind of compromise…

        1. AlexinCT

          That’s what the framers of the constitution did when the South demanded the slave count apply to their representation, right?

      3. WTF

        Because Democrats.

      4. straffinrun

        Let’s compromise and call them 3\5 human.

        1. AlexinCT

          Dang, beat me..

      5. kbolino

        Shorter: Because FYTW.

        Longer: The Courts upended 49 state constitutions (Nebraska has a unicameral legislature) to neuter bicameralism and enforce popular representation in every statehouse because “one man, one vote”. But when it comes time to count heads for representation, weighting votes above or below 1 is okay because FYTW.

      6. invisible finger

        Why can’t they come up with some sort of compromise?

        1. invisible finger

          Fuck me.

  24. tarran

    I came accross this too late to post it in the food discussion.

    I present to you Turk’thulu!!!

    1. Will the octopus cook at the same rate as the turkey?

      1. Count Potato

        The pulpo would cook first, then get tough, then get tender again if it was kept moist.

        1. Kinky euphemism.

  25. If you don’t lol for at least a couple of these, you are truly dead inside.

    https://www.boredpanda.com/worst-logo-fails-ever/

    1. Pat

      That Catwear one could be added to the catbutt repertoire

    2. At the bottom of the page I got a link to https://www.boredpanda.com/shitty-life-hacks/ – I had to close the window after that one, or I’d be stuck on that site all day, and I’m supposed to me reconfiguring a reverse proxy.

      1. I’m supposed to me reconfiguring a reverse proxy.

        ENOUGH with the euphemisms!

        1. Playa Manhattan

          It’s like reverse cowgirl for nerds.

      2. MikeS

        Haha!

        #6 Batteries Dead In Your Smoke Alarm? Just Use Popcorn As A Smoke Alarm. When You Hear Crackling, Grab Your Popcorn And Get The Hell Out

  26. Grumbletarian

    From the ThinkProgress article:

    Mysterious Twitter account appears to be involved in leak of Conyers’ sexual harassment settlement

    The account mimicked the behavior of known Russian trolls by revealing information nobody is saying is false.

    1. Is it possible the author has one of those brain-eating parasites?

    2. leonadasiv

      Editor: You mean to say they are leaking true information….. Ohhhh…. Nevermind.

    3. Not an Economist

      by revealing information nobody is saying is false.

      That is how they know it is a Russian troll. The main stream media in the US would never print the truth.

  27. New York Times Journalists Are Groveling to Their Readers. That’s Pathetic.
    I don’t want my favorite hacks turned into marketers.

    On Monday night, I came home to find a letter from New York Times op-ed columnist Nicholas Kristof in my daily delivery of bills, magazines, catalogs and reader hate mail.

    Printed on his Times stationery and addressed to “Dear Times subscriber,” the note began with a lie: “Look, I’m not a marketer,” Kristof wrote, as he marketed the devil out of me for 350 words, thanking me for subscribing to the Times so that he and his colleagues can cover the world. “We have your back, because you have ours,” he wrote, his pandering reaching a crescendo, and closing with his wish that I would continue to shell out 1,000 bucks a year for the privilege of reading him and his colleagues in print.

    Two things bugged me about the letter. First was Kristof’s presumption that I might be a willing vessel for his gratitude. My relationship with him is more like my relationship to the station manager of the subway—he’s just another interchangeable employee producing a service that I use. I need or want a letter of thanks from Kristof as much as I do one from the station manager for riding the train. The truth of the matter is that I don’t subscribe to the Times so that he can, in his words, shine “a light on important or neglected stories.” I tolerate his heavy moral preening and self-indulgence so that I can read the rest of the Times package. His gratitude is the last thing I want from the paper.

    1. “shell out 1,000 bucks a year”

      It costs 1000 dollars/year to get the NYT? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

      Morons!

      1. Pat

        $2.74 a paper if you get it daily. Everything costs more in New York…

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        Subject Line: NYT: Look at all this brain power!

        How much would you attach to the brilliance of Kristof, Brooks, Down and Friedman with his accordion and generator and commie rag takes? $1? 10? It doesn’t matter because here at the NYT we think we’re priceless.

        How much would you pay to not be a deplorable?

        As an aside, marketing 101 – or at least sales technique – NEVER speak or write in a way that could be perceived as patronizing to a prospective client. But because journalists like Kristof believe themselves to be indispensable delivering shining light bulbs, it never occurs to them to write as though they’re speaking to EQUALS.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Well said.

    3. EvilSheldon

      Brutal.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    So says an analysis by Bloomberg, which claims the electric-car maker is burning through its cash pile at the rate of $8000 a minute, or $480,000 an hour.

    Musk sounds like Presidential material.

  29. Pat

    Facebook’s ad system shown failing to enforce its own anti-discriminatory policy

    Can Facebook be trusted to abide by even its own stated standards? In the case of Internet political advertising the social giant wants to be allowed to continue to self regulate — despite the scandal of Russian bought socially divisive ads which (we now know) were tainting democratic discussion during the 2016 US presidential election (and beyond).

    ‘Don’t regulate us, we can regulate ourselves — honest!‘ is shaping up to be CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s massively moonshot new year project for 2018.

    But results from a new ProPublica investigation suggest the tech giant is failing at even simple self-policing — undermining any claims it can responsibly manage the bad and even out-and-out illegal outcomes that are being enabled via its platform, and bolstering the case for more formal regulation.

    I wonder if silicon valley is having any second thoughts about the public utility argument for internet regs yet.

    1. leonadasiv

      “despite the scandal of Russian bought socially divisive ads which (we now know) were tainting democratic discussion during the 2016 US presidential election (and beyond).”

      No, I know nothing of the sort. Please show me the evidence you saw that brought you to such a stunning conviction of the veracity if this “fact”.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    The account mimicked the behavior of known Russian trolls by revealing information nobody is saying is false.

    That’s the worst kind. Just because something is true, that doesn’t mean you can just go blabbing it around to anybody.

    1. AlexinCT

      Because, The narrative!

  31. Rufus the Monocled

    Oh dear me is that picture of the that girl with the buck gonna send progs into a rage.

    Example:

    “Avatar
    mbslusar 6 hour(s) ago
    Sounds like daddy wanted to take two deer this year and a complicit and gullible 6 year old was all that was necessary.”

    “Avatar
    Rusty Cuyler 1 hour(s) ago
    Congratulations on killing a beautiful animal – and on being the daughter of a total a-hole…

    Hope dad is just as happy when she takes up torturing kittens in the future.”

    Projection much? I do see an asshole here and it ain’t who you think it is.

    I bet you these people are big into eating local and fresh but I guess it stops at hunting.

    1. Pat

      I don’t hunt because killing animals makes me feel bad, but I’m not retarded enough to make my myself into a moral icon just because I prefer to get my meat after it’s been killed by somebody else.

      1. I’m unsure of how I’d react to hunting food beasts. Accidentally killing a cat made me feel bad. Shooting a mouse annoyed me because the dryer door was open and I had to scrub the splatter out of the inside. I don’t go hunting because spending hours tripping through the woods sounds like an awful experience and the effort of getting to where the animals are is an unappealing prospect.

        1. Pat

          Poultry I wouldn’t mind killing, only because I’ve spent time around a chicken coop, a cantankerous rooster, and an ever more cantankerous goose when I was a kid. They’re too dumb to get attached to.

          Mammals I like. I’ve had deer, horses, cows, and even some exotic animals eating out of my hand. I don’t have the heart to kill ’em.

          1. I’ve killed plenty of poultry. Killed a couple pigs. And one sheep. I had raised them all and genuinely liked them up to the moment undecided their time to become delicious was upon me. It’s nothing personal, because they’re not people.
            That said, I couldn’t kill a dog unless I had to in order to survive or if it was endangering someone.

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          You kept the dryer?!?!?

          1. After cleaning, I did a test run (empty) on its highest setting, and found no signs nor smells of residual mouse remains.

            Enamelled metal does clean up, even from blood splatter.

      2. I don’t hunt either – both my parents were anti-gun and Sierra Club members so I never had the chance.

        The one time I helped a neighbor move from his Blazer the deer he had shot, I felt a little sick to my stomach as the dead buck rolled its eyes. So yeah, I’m not hunter material, nor do I like fishing. But I do like a nice steak on the barbie

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      I once read an article where a progressive said that a farmer (the farm is something of a local attraction) shouldn’t slaughter his own animals for meat but instead should buy meat at Whole Foods.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        You MUST find that article.

        That has to be at the top of the Prog Peak Derp list.

      2. ChipsnSalsa

        Aaaaand that’s how we get to Wickard v. Filburn.

  32. ttyrant

    Some random Spain thoughts, as I’ve spent the last week here:

    -Liverpool v Sevilla – the Sanchez Pizjuan is as loud as it sounds on TV. Sitting in the away section was an interesting experience – they oversold our section, so there were people standing up and down the aisles for 90 minutes. Everyone mostly behaved – LFC and Seville fans, as well as the cops.

    – Madrid – the museums (Prado, Naval, History) were great. Curiously, the History Museum didn’t touch the Civil War. Madrid seemingly has a startling amount of graffiti everywhere. There were also plenty of Spanish flags hanging throughout the city – i only note this because I didn’t realize the support behind ‘pro-unity’ was so large.

    – Seville – the Plaza and Cathedral are pretty amazing sites. The pictures I snapped don’t do them justice. There is something charming about all the churches in the city.

    – I’ve only taken a few taxis, but th drivers I’ve had have been fucking boss – they know the cities like the back of their hands, and drive with that borderline-reckless-abandon I want out of my cab driver. This is not an endorsement of these cities’ silly anti-competition laws.

    – Swing dancing in Madrid and Seville – favorite part of the trip.

    – Favorite food – a creamy, cold tomato and garlic soup I had today in Cordoba. I’m gonna butcher the name – sanromenjo (sp) sprinkled with Iberian ham and cheese. The coffee has been consistently good. The tapas have been hit and miss – among the misses being a plate of potato chips and a poor attempt at a slider (French bread, an overcooked beef patty and something approximating BBQ sauce).

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Very cool. I would love to go to Spain some time.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        There are tons of nice boobies just south of Barcelona. TONS.

  33. Flying Poodle

    Beastie Boys kidnapped by STEVE SMITH?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNVoQNNClmU

    1. I like woman spreading… their legs!
      http://www.badum-tish.com/

    2. Pat

      Attractive women are gonna start spreading their legs? Yeah, that’ll teach us…

    3. leonadasiv

      Ohhhhh man! They got men good. I don’t know if they can recover from that.

    4. straffinrun

      “Hey, you smell tuna fish?”

      Bet that would close them.

    5. All those women are pregnant, now.

    6. WTF

      My God, these people are idiots.

    7. DOOMco

      I like that in one of those pics, theres a man sitting cross legged behind her.
      also, not one guy who sits in the “manspreading” way looks like charlie and dennis

    8. Rufus the Monocled

      I don’t use public transportation but when I did for a time for work and school I never observed man spreading. Are they reacting to another issue that isn’t all that prevalent?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        You know what I see a lot of? Bitch bagging. Move your purse, bitch!

    9. Playa Manhattan

      Wow. Womanspreading on her private jet. So stunning. So brave.

  34. Charlie Suet

    Why is there no link on Net Neutrality, the seminal even of our times (according to Reddit)?

    1. Seminal Even sounds like the name of an album produced by a glam band that includes orchestral piecez.

    2. leonadasiv

      U must stop this if you want to saves the internet!!!!!

      Seriously, not a single one of these dolts could tell you how the internet works, but they already know what will happen, and there is no other way it could go down.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        This AM on Jim and Sam, (the remains of Opie and Anthony) Sam was all in a lather about how the world was gonna end because they were gonna charge you extra for going to websites you like.

        The boy is a good show runner, but he is an idiot.

    3. DOOMco

      see, the government is evil and the nsa spies on us.
      we should give them more power.

    4. Pat

      The government breaks up Ma Bell to the relief of everyone in the country with living memories of it
      The deregulated telecom industry starts providing internet service
      The kids who grew up with internet service and no living memory of Ma Bell demand the government re-make Ma Bell

      1. Not an Economist

        The part I don’t get is most of the people who want Net Neutrality don’t like Donald Trump, yet they want to put Donald Trump in charge of the Internet.

        1. EvilSheldon

          They really, truly believe that the FCC is only ever going to enforce the first-in-first-out processing rule. Pinky-swear!

          That, or they’re looking forward to when the progs take over again and start hammering hate-speech regulations through…

          1. Not an Economist

            I’m just happy to know that my downloading of the complete work of Jenna Haze (you know for … research purposes) is going to take priority over that 911 internet call because I was first. What I’m doing is more important than stopping some rape.

            /sarc

          2. Bobarian LMD

            Well, you don’t want to risk getting prostate cancer.

        2. kbolino

          No, they want to put unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats who they think are on their side in charge of the Internet. The part where Congress and the President are, you know, actually in charge of the government and thus the FCC is too complicated for many of them to understand. Or they think their side will win again soon and then be in charge forever and ever amen.

          But mostly, they just want their torrents.

          1. kbolino

            Actually, talking about torrents is probably out of date. Sure, many of the people backing NN are file sharers. But at this point I think NN has become an article of faith rather than something with self-interest behind it*. People who think the Comcast-Netflix issues, and similar situations that may arise in the future, would have been resolved by NN are not so much self-serving as ignorant.

            * = Big companies sponsoring NN are totally acting out of self-interest, the same way AT&T loved having a monopoly on telecom; I’m talking here about voters

    5. Atanarjuat

      A friend posted this graphic made by “The People for Bernie Sanders”.

      https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/23795560_2100249033528633_2680855597239376533_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=7b1e1913808788bb95e8f696f0213b6b&oe=5AA68EE5

      Own goal. I can save money when Net Neutrality is repealed? Sweet.

      1. Michael

        There is an amazing level of stupidity in the arguments coming out of the proponents of net neutrality right now. Many somehow seem to legitimately believe that services like Netflix would be delivered completely free of charge if not for the evil people seeking to undo a two-year-old set of regulations.

      2. kbolino

        Holy shit, you mean different uses of the Internet have different demands on ISPs and should be priced accordingly?

        STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES

        No, the Internet should be forever cemented like it was in 1995* when everybody dialed in with AOL/CompuServe/Prodigy and every packet was sacred. Hell, let’s bring back Gopher, BBS, and FTP. Fuck innovation!

        * = Or better yet, before 1995, when the Internet was a set of curated education, research, and defense institutions with limited access for the general public.

      3. Bobarian LMD

        They apparently think that Netflix is going to stop charging extra for their service?

    6. ScoobaSteve

      I had a derp filled conversation with a PS4 friend about net neutrality. I was informed that without NN, prices for internet access will go up and when someone can no longer afford it, that is a violation of their constitutional right to free expression. Further, regulation cannot cause harm, but lack of regulation can cause harm.

    1. Pat

      Don’t be sexist, bitches hate that.

    2. leonadasiv

      Umm… Girls are equal to boys. Is this asshole implying that girls are inferior?

      1. One of the scenes in Deadpool has the protagonist and his girlfriend celebrating different holidays by having sexual intercourse. On “Women Empowerment Day”, she straps on a huge false penis, with which she penetrates his anus.

        Therefore, I conclude, women are empowered by abandoning their femininity and trying to become masculine.

    3. MikeS

      Because looking down and seeing their own breasts doesn’t remind them?

      1. MikeS

        *actually clicks on link*

        Oh, they’re talking about little kids. Yeah, um..nevermind.

        1. *LIGHTS THE OMWC SIGNAL*

          1. Bobarian LMD

            He hates girls who can see their own breasts. “Eww, too old!”

          2. Old Man With Candy

            There’s a reason i don’t comment on Q’s posts.

    4. kbolino

      What is, shit no 5-year-old actually cares about?

  35. Count Potato

    “Brooklyn College doesn’t want police using campus bathrooms

    Brooklyn College is kowtowing to cop-hating students by directing officers who need a bathroom break to the broken-down facilities in a building on the far edge of campus.

    Amid a planned petition drive to ban cops from the taxpayer-funded campus, Donald Wenz, the school’s director of public safety, told the student newspaper The Excelsior that he’s trying to keep New York’s Finest out of sight.

    While Wenz said all of the school’s restrooms were technically open to cops, the college prefers they stick to those in the isolated West End Building, “rather than walking across either quad to use the bathroom.”

    https://nypost.com/2017/11/19/brooklyn-college-wants-police-to-use-run-down-bathroom/

    1. leonadasiv

      “Brooklyn College is kowtowing to cop-hating students”

      Because anyone who wants government protected bully’s and thieves to stay away must be a cop hater.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Snowflake student: 911 there’s an intruder shooting up our safe spaces!
      911: Who is this? There must….be….a……bad…..connec…..

      /dial tone.

  36. Just Say’n

    https://newrepublic.com/article/145953/stalin-starved-ukraine

    The New Republic writes about the Soviet starvation of Ukraine. Soviet apologists at the NYT, Salon, Slate, and WaPo hardest hit

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Stalin couldn’t control the weather!!!!!

    2. leonadasiv

      With what weather machine? :Rolls Eyes:

    3. Pat

      “There is no actual starvation or deaths from starvation, but there is widespread mortality from disease due to malnutrition. Conditions are bad. But there is no famine.

      Do you have Pulitzer?

      1. Just Say’n

        But, that wasn’t true famine. True famine has never been tried before

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      Stalin: I swear I sent a shipment of food by train. If it didn’t arrive it’s because of capitalism and Jews!

    5. Tundra

      Great article. I’m gonna get that book.

      I’ve mentioned it before, but Timothy Snyder’s Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin is also a fantastic book.

      1. dbleagle

        Amen on Bloodlands. I have recommended it multiple people. They have been fascinated, but appalled, at the treatment of eastern Europe under International and national socialism.

      2. B.P.

        Agreed on Bloodlands.

    6. ron73440

      I’ll be getting this, I liked her book about the Gulags.

      Also, I want to thank whoever it was that recommended Hardcore History to me. I just finished the Blueprint for Armageddon series and am now starting the Celtic Holocaust.

      I have also read Hungry Ghosts(that was difficult to read) What the hell is wrong with me?

    7. PieInTheSKy

      Starving people is inefficient. You can work them to death digging canals

      1. AlexinCT

        Pol Pot had this down to an art..

        1. dbleagle

          It was part of Stalin’s toolkit as well.

  37. Count Potato

    “Britain First deputy leader Jayda Fransen charged

    The deputy leader of the far-right group Britain First has been charged over speeches made in Belfast. Jayda Fransen, 31, was arrested in London by Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) detectives on Saturday. She has been charged with using “threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour”. The charge relates to a speech made at a “Northern Ireland Against Terrorism” rally at Belfast City Hall in August.”

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-42040719

    1. WTF

      Being able to do that is why the left wants to gut the first amendment.

      1. AlexinCT

        Yup..

    2. leonadasiv

      This is why we need to save the US freedoms. No where else had freedom of speech protections.

    3. Just Say’n

      Did you hear that the US and Ukraine were the only countries at the UN to vote against a resolution demanding that states fight Nazism by banning their speech and print materials? Clearly we are the Nazis for allowing Nazis to speak or something. I think that’s how it works

    4. PieInTheSKy

      I believe in the right not to hear nasty stuff.

    1. Drake

      That was a well researched and cited piece. The mainstream media out for Moore’s scalp are welcome to do similar research and refute the article. I seriously doubt it would happen.

      1. I can predict the answer.

        Here is is:

        ….RAPE APPOLOGIST!

      2. Not an Economist

        That information sounds like basic fact checking that should of been done before the original article was published.

        1. dbleagle

          The media is strangely silent about the fact that when Moore was trolling for 14 year old girls he was a Democrat. Guess that doesn’t fit the approved narrative.

  38. Count Potato

    “Student admits to writing racist message in high school bathroom

    CHESTERFIELD, Mo. – Officials at Parkway Central High School said a student has confessed to writing a racial slur and the phrase ‘White Lives Matter’ on a mirror inside a campus bathroom.

    In an email to the ‘PCH Community,’ Principal Timothy McCarthy said the student’s actions violated the school discipline code and that the guilty party would be punished. The Parkway School District would only identify the student as “non-white,” but stressed that “does not diminish the hurt it caused or the negative impact it has had on our community.”

    School officials did not disclose the student’s motive for the graffiti.”

    http://fox2now.com/2017/11/21/student-admits-to-writing-racist-message-in-high-school-bathroom/

    1. leonadasiv

      “does not diminish the hurt it caused or the negative impact it has had on our community.”

      It provoked an important conversation.

      If people were serious about wanting to stop racism, they would stop giving people who do this attention and stop saying that it was effective, because you are giving them what they want.

      1. Chipwooder

        It’s the same ridiculous response the guy from the Air Force Academy gave when he accepted a fucking award for his impassioned response to a supposed hate crime that turned out to be bogus.

        1. AlexinCT

          It was not bogus. He faked it..

          1. Chipwooder

            I don’t understand your objection – we’re saying the same thing here. It was bogus because it wasn’t legitimate. The kid wrote it himself.

      2. PieInTheSKy

        Well it could have been real

        1. AlexinCT

          It’s the thought that counts!

  39. Just Say’n

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/us/politics/dana-rohrabacher-putin-trump-kremlin-under-fire.html

    Breaking: Representative Rohrabacher is a Russian spy or something! Anyone who ever wanted normalized relations with Russia after the Cold War are spies, it turns out (President Obama and Hillary Clinton not included, however).

    1. leonadasiv

      I think we need a committee. To determine who is committing un-American activities.

      1. PieInTheSKy

        I think you may be on to something. Who shall be grand inquisitor?

    2. Pat

      Two decades after the end of the cold war, Mitt Romney still considers Russia to be America’s ‘No. 1 geopolitical foe.’ His comments display either a shocking lack of knowledge about international affairs or just craven politics. Either way, they are reckless and unworthy of a major presidential contender.

      NYT, 03/28/2012

      1. Just Say’n

        Well, that was different, because reasons

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Well, that was different, because (R)easons

          /FTFY

      2. leonadasiv

        That was 5 years ago. Things have totes changed. HRC isn’t president, for instance.

    3. Hyperion

      It’s getting harder every day to tell the NYT from DU.

  40. Well I managed to – finally – convince my stubborn manager to not replace our EDI package until we know the fate of our current ERP package. I wasn’t keen on redoing 15 years of setup – anyways, I’m on the job hunt right now, so I guess it doesn’t matter either way.

  41. Why did cloaks ever go out of fashion? Given the cold November weather I would love to be able to sit in a fur-lined blanket all day.

    1. They didn’t, not directly.

      They gained sleeves to make it easier to manipualte objects, then people belted the waists, then added buttons up the front…

      1. Just Say’n

        Damn barbarians

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      I could use one myself. I sit near the exterior door, brrr. I wear my jacket all day but when you are sitting all day the legs don’t warm up much.

    3. Get thee to a snuggie!

  42. Chipwooder

    I too missed out on the Thanksgiving recipe thread, so I will share with you my secret to mashed potatoes here: boil them whole with the skins still on. Drain the water, peel the potatoes (have to let them cool a bit first, of course), then put them back in the pot. Mash em up and let them sit on low heat for a few minutes. Boiling them this was and then heating them after mashing all removes excess moisture. Add butter and whatever else you’d like to add – garlic, cheese, whatever. Then add WARM milk or cream. Adding cold liquid will give them a gluey texture. Try to avoid mixing them too long at this point, too, for the same reason. I like rustic type potatoes anyway, with bits of skin and lumps, so I don’t mix and mash too much anyway.

    If those aren’t the best mashed potatoes you’ve ever made, then my name ain’t Nathan Arizona.

    1. Count Potato

      I missed that thread too. I wonder if I should bother to explain how to cook a whole turkey.

  43. gbob

    Life in distilling.

    I have to bottle a run of Bourbon. It means that blending from the right barrels is where the art is. Problem is, the previous distiller left no tasting notes. Didn’t even taste the barrels on a regular basis. (I’ll be changing this). That meant that all this morning was spent tasting small amounts to product the right flavor profile from the barrels to proof up. As a result, it’s now 9AM and I’m slightly buzzed. I don’t think I’ve been accidentally drunk on the job in a long time.

    On the other hand, the one person who stayed on the staff after they cleaned house is a good kid. He’s energetic, excited about the product and pretty damn bright. I gave him a better title (from “Bottling Assistant” to “Cellar Master”) and gave him more autonomy to run the barrel racks in a better fashion. I’ll be teaching him to write flavor notes about the barrels, and to keep it updated. I’m going to turn this joint around.

    It’s been nice to have been handed the keys and allowed to make changes. Too many times with a small company you wind up bumping into someone’s ego. Not here. There’s a desire to get the job done, no matter what.

    Now I only have twenty items on my to do list today before I leave to go back home for the holiday weekend. Thankfully, the stress will help me to sober up. I’ll be spending the train ride home passed out in a drunken stupor.

    1. Well, congrats on the autonomy.

      Hope you don’t get accidentally hung over from doing your job.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Does the healthcare package cover liver transplants?

        Because that would be AWESOME!

    2. robc

      Congrats.

      Of course, the obvious other solution to the blending problem is to not, and to release a “single barrel” line. But your approach is almost assuredly better.

      1. gbob

        I think we’re eventually going to get there. Starting with better QA practices on the distillate, Then a system in place where the barrels can be harvested on a schedule of “it tastes ready today” as opposed to “here are the orders we need to fill”. As I’ve mentioned to my friends, it’s an industry that requires years and years to really see the results of some of your actions. Being better starts from day one, and pays off down the road.

        1. robc

          Releasing 18 or 21 year bourbon takes a generation of planning ahead.

          That is hard.

          A beer that requires 6 months of aging is long term thinking.

          1. Tundra

            I had a 25 year old scotch when I was in Edinburgh. I was very pleased that someone did that planning.

          2. gbob

            My son is going to college for an engineering degree. Part of me hopes that he’ll be the one who tastes and bottles some of the spirits I’m laying down in a decade and a half.

    3. Pat

      Where do you work? I might like to pick up a bottle once that comes out of the barrels…

      1. gbob

        It’s the Adirondack Distilling company. In this case the 601 bourbon. Should have full national distribution by end this time next year.

        1. Pat

          Nice. I’ll have to keep an eye out for it. I’m way over yonder in Nevada.

          I just grabbed a bottle of Four Roses Single Barrel for my birthday on a lark simply because it looked nice on the shelf.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            The Single Barrel is quite good, but the Small Batch is a better value. Almost identical and less expensive.

        2. Sean

          When it hits the shelves in PA, I’ll be sure to pick some up.

        3. Hyperion

          If I see a bottle locally, I’ll buy one to support your efforts. I’m actually jealous, I make good money, but my job is less interesting.

    4. PieInTheSKy

      Does the taste and spit stuff used in wine tastings affect your taste of the liquor? Or even if you spit when it comes to Bourbon enough remains for a buzz?

      1. gbob

        Spitting doesn’t work. The aftertaste and how it feels on the back of the throat matters. Small samples, but crack open a dozen barrels and it adds up.

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          barely a euphemism brah.

        2. Tundra

          Yeah, adds up to AWESOME!

    5. I’m going to turn this joint around.

      Let me know if you feel the brands need advertising or marketing help. I do that for a living, and I’ve been pretty good at it.

      1. What are your rates? Because I need someone with that kind of expertise to help me shill books…

  44. AlexinCT

    Not sure if this was posted yet, but it looks like Fusion GPS pf famous Clinton Russia ties (for real) paid the dnc operatives with bylines to push the bullshit stories. I for one expected this to come out. Of course, nobody in the dnc with operatives with bylines circle will think this revelation that they are all partisan hacks willing to sell their souls to the devil to elect a crime syndicate boss like Shillary, will deign this to be be a story worth telling, because the bad guy is the boorish man that has run circles around them…

    This country dodged a bullet when Hillary lost the election…

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      If you were to send this article to a prog they’d dismiss it on the basis it’s TWE.

      1. AlexinCT

        If it didn’t come from the dnc operatives with bylines it isn’t news, right?

    2. Hyperion

      Isn’t this bullshit dossier the reason we’re spending millions of tax payer dollars for this mule face dude to run the circus he’s running? Which has resulted so far in some tax evasion charges of someone not connected to the investigation? I think it’s time to refund some tax money and close down the circus.

  45. The Late P Brooks

    School officials did not disclose the student’s motive for the graffiti.

    We’ll never know, now.

    1. leonadasiv

      Motive is a fickle mistress. Sometimes she’s easy to understand, and sometimes you’ll never know what she’s up to.

  46. Pope Jimbo

    I’m a horrible person because I think it is OK to shame people who don’t pay for their school lunches.

    A local district got pretty bold and would repossess lunches from kids who owed money for their lunches. That might have been a bit aggressive, but now the local pols want to pass laws against it. Or even better give away free lunches to everyone.

    I don’t think that most parents are so shitty that they don’t want to feed their kids. I think a lot of parents have figured out that they can run up a big lunch tab and never have anything bad happen. I’m OK shaming them.

    1. Pat

      This is the difference between charity and entitlement. If you can’t pay for your kid’s lunch tab at school, most people would be sympathetic if you just said “I’m sorry, I can’t pay” – they’d probably even chip in to help you out. When you get pissed off because you’re actually expected to pay and you don’t want to be made to feel bad about welshing on your obligations, you’re an entitled asshole. Especially since the National School Lunch Program exists to help people who are actually needy.

      1. AlexinCT

        Gimme free shit you fuckers!

    2. Tundra

      The free/reduced lunch scam is only a way to get more of that sweet Fed luchre. Let’s face it, the number of truly needy kids in Minnesota is infinitesimally small. Parents are gaming the shit out of this system and it’s disgusting. Were you aware that activity fees are waived for those on free/reduced?

      1. ron73440

        I’ll always remember when the school administrator got mad at me because I didn’t file for this even though I was eligible.

        Really ticked me off.

    3. gbob

      This is where I lose my Glib creds, and start wearing a leather jacket like Nick (wait…I do. Damn it.), but I have a soft spot when it comes to school lunches. I worked for about five years teaching inner city kids who had been kicked out of the regular school system. Bunch of foster kids, mostly. It was the only meal they really got, most of the time.

      I know my intellect tells me that it’s not the role of government. My heart, though, really is moved by starving kids. I don’t have any better solution than tossing money at the problem (other than structural societal change that keeps parents together, pooling resources, to take care of their children…but that’s something government can’t do.).

      I’ll just keep this filed under “things I am a hypocrite for supporting”.

      1. I have fewer hangups over actually needy children getting it.

        I do have issues with people who game the system.

        1. Pat

          And therein lies the problem when the government administers programs like that. It makes people less sympathetic because they see the dysfunction of the bureaucracy, and see benefits accruing to people who do not seem to be in legitimate need of help. Like I said above, I don’t think you’d have a terribly hard time getting a few dozen people to chip in 20 bucks a piece and pay off the tab of a working single mom who got behind on her kid’s school lunch payments. When you’re running up a tab you know you can’t pay and then you cop an attitude when the bill comes due because you think it’s somehow owed to you… it’s probably going to be a tougher sell.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            My guess is that a lot of people have figured out that if you don’t pay your tab, nothing happens.

            The school doesn’t send your name to a collections agency. Doesn’t go on your credit score. So why pay it?

            I don’t think anyone has a gripe with truly needy having free lunches. But once you start doling it out, the leeches are sure to get in on it too.

          2. kbolino

            They key distinction between private charity and government “charity” in practice is that the former has a system of incentives that favors putting the money where it does the most good, while the latter has a system of incentives that favor putting the money where it does the least good.

          3. Psycho Effer

            Honestly, government schools are no different than prisons to me. Prisoners don’t have to pay for their lunch and neither should students. School administrators need to just rip their masks off and recognize themselves for what they are: Prison administrators.

        2. JaimeRoberto

          That’s how I feel when I see the sweet, new SUVs filled with kids on their smart phones pulling up to the food pantry at the local Catholic church.

          1. The Last American Hero

            Do you tell them you will pray tonight that their finances will improve?

        3. invisible finger

          Any system that can be gamed that easily is a shitty system that needs to be dismantled asap.

      2. pan fried wylie

        I know my intellect tells me that it’s not the role of government. My heart, though, really is moved by starving kids. I don’t have any better solution than tossing money at the problem

        This is where I’d say something flippant like, “you know where these hungry kids are, bring them sandwiches” or something, but the authorities would probably use your knowledge to play up a predatory angle when you get arrested for giving away sandwiches without a permit. best just to let em starve.

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      Interesting fact about the school lunch program: It was started after WW1 because the Army found a high number of draftees medically disqualified due to malnourishment. The program was intended to ensure children had a substantial meal for the one meal the government could conceivably control: lunch at schools children are required to attend. So its meant to fatten kids up so they can be soldiers.

  47. leonadasiv

    Whatever happens to baked penguin and Secret Nazi president?

  48. PieInTheSKy

    Hot takes as it were

    Here’s an unpopular opinion: I’m actually not at all concerned about innocent men losing their jobs over false sexual assault/harassment allegations.

    https://twitter.com/EmilyLindin/status/933074592083591168

    First, false allegations VERY rarely happen, so even bringing it up borders on a derailment tactic. – this very rare is bullshit and irrelevant

    Sorry. If some innocent men’s reputations have to take a hit in the process of undoing the patriarchy, that is a price I am absolutely willing to pay. – your not the one paying bitch

    Not a strong analogy, since the death penalty and the penal system in general are used disproportionately against an oppressed group in this country. The roles are reversed. – how fucked up are your beliefs if something is bad only if it affectes some opressed grouip or other?

    1. The Elite Elite

      A man’s due process is unimportant. A woman made a claim, so damnit, you better believe her, even if there is zero evidence for her claim! #ListenAndBelieve

      1. AlexinCT

        Tell her you advocate for the inverse and see what her reaction is.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      At least she’s being ripped to shreds for it.

    3. Psycho Effer

      I’m not at all concerned about women losing their jobs over false sexual assault/harassment allegations. Equal rights and all…

      1. PieInTheSKy

        No no opressed group it is not the same

    4. pan fried wylie

      I smell a missing blockquote

    5. KibbledKristen

      Someone asked her what she thought about the fact that Title IX witch hunts disproportionately affect black men. She replied “I meant to exclude black dudes from my original Tweet”

      LOL. You done got caught, bitch.

  49. Count Potato

    Teen Vogue columnist:

    “Here’s an unpopular opinion: I’m actually not at all concerned about innocent men losing their jobs over false sexual assault/harassment allegations.”

    https://twitter.com/EmilyLindin/status/933073784822579200

    1. Mask? What mask?

    2. PieInTheSKy

      ehm…

      1. Count Potato

        It’s the way the site reloads. For some reason it doesn’t refresh the entire page.

    3. Chipwooder

      What a wretched human being she is.

    4. kbolino

      “When this attitude inevitably comes around to bite me in the ass, I’m going to be completely surprised and wonder why no one leaps to my defense”

    5. PROTECTED! Hahahahahaha. Dumbass.

  50. Trump’s instincts were right to use immigration as a campaign hallmark. This is turning out to be a defining issue of the decade.

    https://pjmedia.com/spengler/angela-merkels-feet-clay/

    1. Drake

      It goes with the whole Internationalist agenda – putting your own country’s nationality and interests behind that of the International / Socialist agenda. Sooner or later the citizens will figure out they are getting a bad deal.

  51. I’ve noticed an odd bug. I blame my work proxy because it only happens at work. After someone who has not set a custom avatar comments, the page will never stop ‘loading’, even after all the content is there. I don’t have a clue why that is, but I doubt anyone else will be able to replicate it (as I said, it’s only something that hits me from work).

    1. Nephilium

      I’d guess that your work filter is blocking the domain that the generic avatars are hosted at.

    2. ron73440

      I have a problem where I can’t post on most days and can’t set my avatar. I’ll change it, it says it’s saved but it never changes.

      When I first signed up for this site, i had an avatar.

      The not being able to post is my shitty work internet, but I have tried the avatar here and at home with no luck.

  52. PieInTheSKy

    Wilfrid Laurier University’s president apologizes to Lindsay Shepherd for dressing-down over Jordan Peterson clip
    Shepherd secretly recorded the meeting, where she was told she had created a ‘toxic climate’ in the class and it was suggested she had broken the law

    http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/wilfrid-laurier-universitys-president-apologizes-to-lindsay-shepherd-for-dressing-down-over-jordan-peterson-clip

    Both Rambukkana and Pimlott compared airing the clips to exposing the students to Nazi propaganda.

    EVRYTHING IS NAZIIIII

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Lindsey Shepherd is also awesome about this whole thing. And is also smoking hot, but that’s sexist of me.

      https://twitter.com/NewWorldHominin

      1. But she still completely whiffs on Peterson’s point, which has always been about forced usage and government coercion.

        “If someone told me that they have a pronoun that they like to use, I would just use it,” she said.

    2. Count Potato

      “Like all great Stasi institutions, the university will not explain the exact crime. Nor reveal exactly what the accused is accused of. Nor reveal who the complainant is. Shepherd is not allowed to be told whether one student has complained. Or many. Or all. But she is informed that showing a viewpoint that is contrary to the currently prevailing dogma is akin to an act of violence. This, in turn, is against the Ontario Human Rights Code. All the current torture-terms are there. Things are ‘problematic’. Shepherd is guilty of ‘targeting’. Her actions are ‘discriminatory’ and make people feel ‘unsafe’. One of the apparatchiks even uses the term ‘positionality’ where the word ‘position’ would be perfectly adequate. Presumably because in his particular bubble there is no point in using the correct word when an elongated (and incorrect) one could give off an air of greater authority, the better to intimidate underlings with.”

      https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/beware-the-modern-day-heretic-hunters/

  53. The Late P Brooks

    FAKES

    Hundreds of thousands of Americans are having their identities stolen and used to interfere in government decisions about whether internet service providers should be allowed to block apps, slow websites and charge fees for what people do online, says New York’s attorney general.

    “For six months my office has been investigating who perpetrated a massive scheme to corrupt the FCC’s notice and comment process through the misuse of enormous numbers of real New Yorkers’ and other Americans’ identities,” wrote Eric Schneiderman, New York state’s top lawman, on Tuesday.

    “My office analyzed the public comments submitted to the @FCC about #netneutrality—and found that 100,000s of Americans were likely impersonated to drown out the views of real people and businesses,” Schneiderman tweeted in a separate message.

    Them Roooskees done stole muh internetz!

  54. The Late P Brooks

    “Here’s an unpopular opinion: I’m actually not at all concerned about innocent men losing their jobs over false sexual assault/harassment allegations.”

    You could knock me over with a feather.

  55. PieInTheSKy

    So I came upon this samizdat post

    https://www.samizdata.net/2017/11/we-are-so-happy-in-taxlandia/

    Its about a new EU site to teach the yuts about taxes. A close friend of mine worked on this, a Romanian company was involved. I tried to open it and it did not work and told her and she said something like you probably don’t have 1G of ram free for the browse. Silly me I would not have expect a random site to require 1G Ram.

    1. When I hit 1gb of memory used for a browser process, it’s because I’ve got dozens of tabs open and am playing a video on one.

      Though as an example of the wastefulness of the EU, it’s probably apropos.

      1. Gilmore

        tho i can’t speak to your case, Win10 can hit 1gb while browsing quite easily

        an example

        7 tabs, no video playing anywhere (tho the Yfin site was still loading, so might have been drawing a bit more than it would static)

        it caps off, fwiw, after a bit… you can open more and more tabs and it caches things to disk. but i think even just a few (4 or so) tabs can store themselves entirely in memory, and get close to a gb quite easily. Win10, tho i haven’t really benchmarked it in anything except browsing and Office apps, seems to runs lots of apps ‘fatter’, where they have lots of dinguses and background services running in memory. Its not really a problem unless you’re trying to run on a 4gb minimum; 8-16 works fine

    1. straffinrun

      I can’t click on that. The all caps give me a headache except when STEVE SMITH does it. Then I get aroused.

    2. PieInTheSKy

      That was covered already. I blame the jet lag

      1. How much longer do I get until I’m not allowed to blame things on that anymore?

        1. MikeS

          One hour and 23 minutes.

    3. Gilmore

      “”Sydney Pereira is a science writer””

      lol

      1. Science writers know less about science than their readers.

        1. Gilmore

          Paraphrasing ClarkHat: “Science” writer for “News”week

    1. Pat

      Thousands of patients came in search of a cure for the painful indigestion caused by heavy, meat-filled diets—a near epidemic at the time.

      And they got a cure that led to rampant obesity, diabetes, and cancer. Not a bad tradeoff for a smoother shit.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      On the liquids menu – Boiled Milk.

      1. Count Potato

        UCS has a time machine?

  56. Count Potato

    “Study: A LOT Of Young People Think Compliments, Drink Invites Are Forms Of ‘Sexual Harassment’

    This is dangerous stuff: watering-down real sexual harassment (when everything is sexual harassment, then nothing is sexual harassment) and potentially driving a wedge further between the sexes.”

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/23852/study-lot-young-people-think-compliments-drink-amanda-prestigiacomo

    1. Unintended: more porn and more video games for men

    2. Pat

      Life imitates Encyclopedia Dramatica

      *Very Very Extremely Totally NSFW*

    3. Charlie Suet

      ” For reference, those polled in Sweden, Germany, and the U.K., all polled around 0% for this particular hypothetical.”

      That’s gotta hurt.

  57. I’ve been told by many sooper-smart-peeple that getting rid of men would stop sexual impropriety.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/boys-in-custody-and-the-women-who-abuse-them

  58. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of Fisker

    Electric car-maker Fisker has filed patents for flexible solid-state battery technology that could slash charging times and improve range.

    ———–

    According to Fisker, the radical new battery would deliver 2.5 times the energy density of typical lithium ion batteries.

    Solid-state batteries are known to have a number of limitations, such as low power and low rate capability as a result of the layered electrode structure, and issues arising from cold temperatures, the firm explains.

    But, the new technology attempts to overcome the challenges using a three-dimensional solid-state structure.

    Is a “solid state battery” what they’re calling “super capacitors” now?

    1. Psycho Effer

      This is why I don’t sweat all the stories of China buying all the sources of lithium. I don’t see lithium as the long-term solution for making batteries. China is going to realize in 10 years that they wasted 10’s of billions of dollars on that shit.

      1. China’s not buying the lithium to make batteries, it’s for treating their national case of bipolar disorder that results from being a communo-capitalist chimera.

    2. pan fried wylie

      If their battery is anything like their hatchet, I’m sold. The machete arrives today.

  59. straffinrun

    A 43 minute nut punch. Fuck these people.

    1. straffinrun

      And then a brief “Oops, my bad.” from the school’s president.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      “I hate to bring up Hitler but I’m gonna bring up Hitler.”
      A paraphrased quote from this farce but close enough.

      1. straffinrun

        Right after the Hitler comparison he tries to one up that by comparing it to playing a Milo speech.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Milo is a well known antisemite right? Ezra Levant as well apparently.

          1. straffinrun

            I haven’t actually gotten visibly angry just listening to an SJW before. *Drinks beer*. OK. That’s a little better. Was this covered in another thread?

          2. Stinky Wizzleteats

            What interests me is how they claim to be concerned about people’s feelings and then they proceed to attempt to verbally curbstomp this person they disagree with. It’s a good thing she recorded it on the sly, otherwise she certainly would have been fired and maybe expelled.

  60. The Late P Brooks

    Oh, hey, guess what- I now have an ALERT!ALERT!ALERT!

    My Firefox is critically out of date, and I need an upgrade, pronto.

    Based on what I have seen here, I am reluctant. Maybe it’s time to shop for a new browser.

    1. What version are you running?

    2. Pat

      I always assumed you were a Lynx man

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Pale Moon, a Mozilla derivative, is a good one. Opera’s nice too.

    4. pan fried wylie

      yes, i had another tantrum when this latest update for firefox dropped. like i do every time i’m forced to close the browser, because-windows-updates. I should just expect firefox updates when i run the program now. like I do with amazon music. or steam.

      that said, the new firefox actually seems alright. it’s been running for a few days now with my usual myriad of windows and tabs open and still under 200MB of ram usage. the browser doesnt lock up while rendering pages anymore. NoScript fixed itself once the updated version came out. The reorganization of the bookmarks/history menu will be forgotten in a few more days I’m sure.

    5. Hyperion

      You have to let Firefox do what it does, update every fucking time you open it. That’s why I seldom use it.

      1. Just tell it to not check for updates, then when you decide to update, do so manually.

    6. I use Firefox primarily for development these days. I’m still looking for a browser I really enjoy. Vivaldi’s alright, that’s my main, but there are some stability issues and its implementation of the dev tools is garbage. Chrome is fine, but it’s a resource hog. FF is solid, but feels slow, and I’ve had some really bad stability issues with it in the past. Shit, I even tried using Edge for about twenty minutes. Opera is way too busy for me, and also feels slow.

      I don’t know. I want a browser with tabs that supports web standards without being too much of a stickler about it and has a really nice dev console. That’s it. I don’t even want bookmarks or any of that shit. Oh, and no cache.

  61. The Late P Brooks

    I’m not sure what version of firefox i have. I just got a batch of updates the other day. I’m using elementary linux. I accepted most of the updates, but not firefox.

    This, of course, brings up another major peeve, which is the incessant auto updating on my android phones. The one I basically only use for spoitify has 4gig of memory, and it’s always giving me “out of memory” warnings.

    1. Help -> “About Firefox” should tell you the version.

    2. pan fried wylie

      Look, if “just install the fucking updates” is checked, dont give me an extra notification that the updates are available. Just fucking do it, and hey, maybe skip the “updates installed” notification too, because, again, “just fucking do it”-checked.

  62. Count Potato

    Sure, there is no such thing as peak retard, but still…

    https://twitter.com/legroff/status/932965032878661632

    1. Not an Economist

      She is right, because people like her made it so.

      1. Not an Economist

        After further thought although not changing my initial impression is that she is using a rhetorical trick. It doesn’t take much creativity to link everything to politics. It also doesn’t take much creativity to link the same thing to race, class, sex, … or peanut butter.

        She claims this is high school level philosophy but I don’t think she paid attention or she would have realized this.

    2. Raven Nation

      Her own response further down the thread where she notes she is married to a white man and raising two white men:

      “I am, however, teaching my white males that they were born into a profound debt, which they have to repay over the course of their lives, to people who were born without my sons’ vast privileges.”

      As your kids, honey, I’m pretty sure whatever privilege they had at birth has been ripped out.

      1. Oh, when they’re on Season 34 of Intervention I’m sure they’ll have all kinds of things to say about their privilege.

      2. When they are out of house, they are going to go and privilege like crazy.

    3. leonadasiv

      “But she didn’t claim only a political duality. Saying all things are political is a nuanced statement. Would not Paulo Freire’s Pedagogy agree that the way in which we perceive the world around us and interpret society and every image therein is laden with political undertones?”

      One of the responses. I don’t think this person understands the definition of nuance.

      1. kbolino

        Ugh, the navel-gazing ultimately empty philosophical mumbo-jumbo rears its head. It can mean everything or nothing at the same time.

      2. Raven Nation

        Paulo Freire would agree but who the fuck cares what he thinks.

  63. The Late P Brooks

    55.0.2 is my current version. I think the update was 57.

    1. There’s no way you’re out of date or need to panic. I’m running 52 right now and nothing’s broken.

      What lying program is saying you should change?

      1. pan fried wylie

        If i’m following his screen correctly, Software Updates is the only thing “complaining”.

        1. Pfft. That’s not worth worrying about. That program freaks if you’re a single microrevision away from the “current”.

    2. Pat

      The Elementary packagers must have skipped the 56 series releases.

      I’m pretty happy with the new version. YMMV. I think Elementary uses Epiphany by default (or maybe Midori?). If you want a lightweight experience, either of those are good.

    1. There are so many goddamn deer in Maryland that the state DNR pays professional hunters to do culls in urban areas and state parks. I drove from Annapolis to Flintstone last Thursday morning and saw five different deer that had been hit by traffic: one 665 in Annapolis and three on 70 right around Frederick. Put another way, I’ve seen more deer than mice this year.

    2. KibbledKristen

      Who knew he was functionally retarded?

    3. MikeS

      There are a lot of funny replies. My favorite so far (UCS hardest hit):

      Daniel Russell‏ @Evildog46
      Nov 16
      Replying to @normmacdonald

      Even the mice??What do you suggest I do about the mice in my shed?

  64. Chipwooder

    If this hasn’t been noted here before….Newsweek has removed the Trump references from that Manson story, with this note: An earlier version of this story did not meet Newsweek’s editorial standards and has been revised accordingly.

    haha

    1. Count Potato

      That’s rich.

    2. Pat

      An earlier version of this story did not meet Newsweek’s editorial standards and has been revised accordingly.

      They did not intend to besmirch the legacy of Charles Manson by comparing him to Drumpf.

      1. Hyperion

        Even Manson wasn’t worse than Hitler.

  65. Count Potato

    “Bridging The Divide: ContraPoints, Theryn Meyer, Blaire White!
    Public · Hosted by UBC Free Speech Club

    This event will not be a debate, but rather a conversation between these three ladies. The event will start with a few introductions and opening remarks from the speakers, and then move into a panel form. The later half of the event will be a Q&A.

    Certain ticket holders will have the chance to ask questions, and also meet & and greet after the show.”

    https://www.facebook.com/events/141292129965990/

    No mention of a pillow fight?

    1. Bobarian LMD

      Looks like a discussion to compare transition surgery scars.

  66. The Late P Brooks

    I think Elementary uses Epiphany by default (or maybe Midori?). If you want a lightweight experience, either of those are good.

    Epiphany is what came bundled. At this point, I don’t remember why I added Firefox. Probably just name recognition I installed the package off a dvd from some linux magazine. I really am quite happy with the way it works. Windows was driving me bananas.

  67. KibbledKristen

    Motherfuckin GNC. I went there to get some “vitamins”, and as I was parking, saw the store employee leaving and putting one of those signs with a clock on it on the door. Figured he was just dipping out for a minute, so I went to Starbucks. When I left Starbucks, went over to GNC and the clock on the door said he’d be back at 2 mothfuckin pm.

    So I’m-a just pound H2O, take a B12, and take a couple more “practice” tests.

    1. Count Potato

      They only have one employee?

      1. KibbledKristen

        Apparently

      2. Tundra

        Until the kids get out of school, yeah.

    2. Hyperion

      Starbucks and going to box store to get vitamins/supplements… hmm, we’re going to need to get a count of Kristen’s orphans…

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      I can relate. I showed up to buy a bagel 30 mins after they opened. Their halogen sign even said it was open–all the doors locked. I had to be anti-gay shitlord and get breakfast from Chick-fil-a.

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      What sort of test are you studying for?

      1. DOOMco

        the drug-fueled kind.

    5. DOOMco

      the grocery store or CVS might have some of what you’re looking for.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Went to Walgreens – no dice. Looking for creatine, though I don’t think it’s that important. Gonna finish my liter of water and take another test.

        1. Tundra

          Target?

          1. KibbledKristen

            I gotta brine my turkey and cook some taters. Maybe I’ll try later. Of course, Tarzhjay is right next to GNC. Maybe the GNC dude will decide to be at work by then.

  68. The Late P Brooks

    What lying program is saying you should change?

    Mozilla, of course.

  69. The Late P Brooks

    They did not intend to besmirch the legacy of Charles Manson by comparing him to Drumpf.

    Nice.

  70. KibbledKristen

    Looks like my Pa & wife went through the first lock

  71. And to think that grant money could have ended up in the wrong hands and used for cancer research!

    https://archive.is/TLm82

    1. Hyperion

      I’ll research anything if you just give me some grant money. Does pork really come from pigs or is that just a social construct? This could take millions, but I’m right on it!

  72. Juvenile Bluster

    I go on Reddit, but subscribe to sports and meme subs and filter anything political.

    This is what my front page looks like right now.

    https://i.imgur.com/undefined.png

    1. Hyperion

      How many of these vocal supporters of net neutrality even know what that means?

      1. Slim to none. I was talking to my wife about that the other day. We’ve both got sort of measured positions on it, she leaning towards pro, me leaning towards con. It’s especially fertile ground for sloppy thinking and poor “debate” because it combines the technical aspects of how the Internet works, which most people don’t understand (I myself have only a very shallow layman’s grasp) and telecom companies, which are the easiest corporations to hate because they’re so tied up in cronyism and the worst aspects of regulatory capture.

        So you get people who have no idea what they’re talking about deciding that the government should regulate Internet traffic out of largely unfounded suspicion of bad acts from a group they’re predisposed to dislike (gee, where else do people advocate for government regulation of things they don’t understand associated with groups they dislike…) yelling at people who sort of reflexively like anything having to do with corporations because they assume that directly correlates with capitalism. Both groups usually just take whatever side their favorite political pundit speaks for publicly. Then you’ve got a smaller group of people on either side of the issue who actually know the technical aspect and have taken a reasoned, well thought out position, and those folks tend to get lumped in with their idiot cousins on either side.

        1. kbolino

          I haven’t seen too many people with a serious grasp of how Internet infrastructure works today come out in favor of NN. It may be that they’re too busy working to be writing about the topic, but it seems like the vast majority of “technical” NN proponents are: not network engineers, not ISP-scale network engineers, or haven’t been involved with network engineering since the early days of the Internet.

          It also seems like precious few people actually know and understand what NN is.

          1. kbolino

            e.g. Tim Berners-Lee (who created the World Wide Web, not the Internet) while working for CERN at a time when the Internet was a low-bandwidth gated community, is a proponent of NN. Yes, he’s a technical guy. But his appeals to “the way it was then” are completely disconnected from the reality of 2017.

          2. I think you’re absolutely right about the perspective being the issue. Berners-Lee and others are still thinking of the Internet as a way for people to exchange academic information, news, etc. And it is, but even more than that it’s replacing theater, television, and radio, which means a lot of data being sent at once. It’s easy to forget because it feels so ephemeral, but every bit of data is a physical thing that occupies space, and space, like any other resource, is limited. The way I put it is that you can have cheap Internet access, high-bandwidth, high-speed Internet access, and “equal” Internet access. Pick two.

          3. kbolino

            It is an interesting situation we’re in, because there’s a lot of overlap between people who wanted to push IP* for everything and people who want NN. Yet, the more you cram into a single (if massive) network, the more issues of contention and priority arise. Yes, you can solve the problems by so massively overprovisioning physical network infrastructure that current usage is dwarfed by it, but a) that’s a gross waste of resources, b) demand will eventually expand to fill it, and c) who’s going to pay for it, anyway? A single packet-switched network, even one with multiple routes between any two destinations, handling a massive, growing, and ever-changing set of demands, but without any prioritization or traffic shaping is a recipe for serious problems.

            * = Internet Protocol

          4. Hyperion

            One could know nothing and just naturally assume that keeping government regulations at bay is always the best idea.

          5. Hyperion

            Of course for leftists, at least, that’s not the way they think. They always assume that something is broken, something is unfair, and that someone has to fix it and that someone is the government.

          6. kbolino

            It is a fine heuristic. But there are some people who feel like NN addresses some other concern (e.g., local ISP monopolies, throttling of streaming services, censorship) and overrides any misgivings one might naturally have about greater government involvement.

            The problem is, NN has nothing to do with any of those concerns. It is, at best, a red herring.

          7. Hyperion

            The problem is, is that even if NN, let me back that up and say ‘the idea of NN’ is good, the problem is that once the government gets their slimy tentacles into something, it never stops at the original purpose. The leftists in government are dying to get some control of the internet so that they can censor views and ideas that they don’t like. Right now, tech companies like Google and Youtube are doing their bidding for them, but it isn’t enough to completely kill alternate ideas. It’s damn hard to kill ideas. Even nearly 100 years of the left controlling academia and the media has not been able to achieve it, that’s why they’re trying to get the same control over the internet, and NN is how they get their foot in that door.

          8. kbolino

            I think the government already has its hands, feet, tentacles, sexual organs, and some other appendages in the door of the Internet. So people say “what difference does it make if they also get to enforce net neutrality? at least then we get something out of the bargain” But, you don’t actually get something good. NN is the “seen” but the cost to network operators which will be borne by the consumer one way or another is the “unseen”. And, right now, the Federal government’s role is limited to spying and policing. That’s bad enough; giving them NN lets them get economic and technical hooks in there as well.

          9. Yeah, and that’s partly my position. I don’t think that there is never a role for government regulation, but I do tend to think it’s a last resort, not a preventative measure, and it’s only to be tried when all else has failed. That’s not even close to the case here. But for people who are more accepting of regulation I think it’s still important to point out that not only is this being proposed to solve a problem that hasn’t happened, but it wouldn’t actually solve the problem were it to occur.

          10. Hyperion

            If there’s anything that I’m in favor of doing with the internet, it’s to stop locales, cities, whatever, from colluding with internet providers like Comcast to allow them to form monopolies and keep out any competition.

          11. kbolino

            While these would not be my first choices, things that could be done to actually address the concerns being presented:

            1. Require local monopolies to keep traffic shaping and prioritization content-neutral. I.e., they can throttle Netflix, but not specific Netflix shows; they can throttle YouTube, but not specific YouTube channels/videos; etc. And require such throttling to only be done in response to network pressure and only for as long as necessary to keep other traffic flowing.

            2. Divide the provision of local Internet services into “infrastructure” (wires in the ground, terminals, routers, repeaters, etc.) and “delivery” (IP addresses, routes). Only grant monopolies to the former, and require them to be neutral to, and divested of any interests in, the latter.

            3. Allow a-la-carte pricing but also require the offering of a “complete” package; the latter would be as “net neutral” as reasonably possible, but might be blanket throttled at times of high network demand to meet a-la-carte contract guarantees.

        2. pan fried wylie

          it combines the technical aspects of how the Internet works, which most people don’t understand (I myself have only a very shallow layman’s grasp) and telecom companies, which are the easiest corporations to hate because they’re so tied up in cronyism and the worst aspects of regulatory capture.

          You dont really need the former to understand how the latter happens and why it sucks.

  73. KibbledKristen

    Another <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/world/asia/aung-san-suu-kyi-myanmar.html&quot; title="Nobel Murder Peace Prize winner” target=”_blank” >Nobel Murder Peace Prize winner, ladies & gentlemen.

    1. KibbledKristen

      Oh for fuck’s sake

      1. Hyperion

        That doesn’t work. You have to call for edit fairy.

      2. Tundra

        Welcome to the club!

      3. ChipsnSalsa

        What kind of edit faerie does KK get?

        1. KibbledKristen

          Dis kind..only a little less goth

          1. Hyperion

            If you just want an old fat guy who drinks beer all of the time, you’ve probably arrived at the right place.

          2. KibbledKristen

            Yeah…alcohol is not my thing. I went from being engaged to a drunk who died at 41 to a teetotaler. And it’s awesome.

    2. kbolino

      There are exceptions, such as Nelson Mandela, the first post-apartheid president of South Africa. But the Mandelas are so uncommon, and their successes rely on so many factors clicking into place, that they are still marveled over as wondrous mysteries, including among frustrated activists in Myanmar.

      Mandela only looks good in comparison to leaders like Mugabe (not to mention his own wife at the time). He lead the ANC to becoming a dysfunctional mess, and with it South Africa as a single-party state.

      1. kbolino

        Second paragraph was meant to be outside of blockquotes. The point I’m making is, they’re going to repeat the same mistakes in the future, because they’re willing to whitewash people like Mandela.

      2. KibbledKristen

        I agree that a person who is capable of leading a dissenting group doesn’t necessarily have the skills to lead an actual government. Dissent is about oratory and firing people up. Governing is a whole different animal.

  74. The Late P Brooks

    Tongue bath

    “When I was a child, there’s one thing I said,” Musk continues. His demeanor is stiff, yet in the sheen of his eyes and the trembling of his lips, a high tide of emotion is visible, pushing against the retaining walls. “‘I never want to be alone.’ That’s what I would say.” His voice drops to a whisper. “I don’t want to be alone.”

    A ring of red forms around his eyes as he stares forward and sits frozen in silence. Musk is a titan, a visionary, a human-size lever pushing forward massive historical inevitabilities – the kind of person who comes around only a few times in a century – but in this moment, he seems like a child who is afraid of abandonment. And that may be the origin story of Musk’s superambitions, but more on that later. In the meantime, Musk has something he’d like to show me.

    It’s not the sort of thing I can read all at once. Some of you are tough enough to do it.

    1. Ugh, use some of that government cheese to buy yourself a hanky, you sheister.

    2. Tundra

      How the fuck is he an ‘inventor’?

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Same way Edison was. He probably has a modern day Nikola Tesla holed up in a shitty apartment somewhere in the Bay Area with orders to invent something or he won’t turn the hot water back on.

      2. Hyperion

        He had something to do with PayPal, but I’m not sure if any of his contribution was vision or technical. But he has done some coding, I do know that much.

        1. robc

          PayPal was established in December 1998 as Confinity, a company that developed security software for handheld devices founded by Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, Luke Nosek and Ken Howery. PayPal was developed and launched as a money transfer service at Confinity in 1999, funded by John Malloy from BlueRun Ventures.

          In March 2000, Confinity merged with X.com, an online banking company founded by Elon Musk. Musk was optimistic about the future success of the money transfer business Confinity was developing. Musk and then-president and CEO of X.com, Bill Harris, disagreed on this point and Harris left the company in May 2000. In October of that year, Musk made the decision that X.com would terminate its other Internet banking operations and focus on the PayPal money service. The X.com company was then renamed PayPal in 2001, and expanded rapidly throughout the year until company executives decided to take PayPal public in 2002. Paypal’s IPO listed under the ticker PYPL at $13 per share and ended up generating over $61 million.

          Shortly after PayPal’s IPO, the company was acquired by eBay in July 2002 for $1.5 billion, with a valuation of over $23 a share, or 77% above the IPO price.

          Musk saw the future of paypal and got on board while it was cheap.

    3. Chipwooder

      Musk has something he’d like to show me.

      Anything to distract from potential questions about the burgeoning disaster that is the Model 3 production line.

      1. Tundra

        You mean the Alien Dreadnought?

        *barf*

    4. KibbledKristen

      People who can’t ever be alone and keep themselves company are creepy.

  75. The Late P Brooks

    How many of these vocal supporters of net neutrality even know what that means?

    KKKorporations are big mean greedy bullies!

  76. mexican sharpshooter

    If he wanted to continue being the grand master twitter troll, his a more effective response would have been, Who is LaVar Ball?

    What does LaVar Ball have in common with Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz and Kim Jong-un? Like those (in)famous political figures, the Big Baller Brand CEO is now officially the recipient of childish slights from Donald Trump. In the wee hours of Wednesday morning, the President of the United States hopped on Twitter to respond to LaVar’s CNN interview with Chris Cuomo by 1) insisting that he alone was responsible for freeing LiAngelo Ball and his UCLA Bruins teammates from China, 2) comparing the Ballfather unfavorably to legendary boxing promoter Don King and 3) calling him an “ungrateful fool.”

    1. You’ve got to admit that “poor man’s version of Don King but without the hair” is a pretty damn good line.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        I’m surprised Trump used King in an insult. The other Donald was a big supporter.

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        It is. I am one of those people that wish nobody knew who LaVar Ball was.

        1. I listen to and watch (it’s televised) a local sports radio show, and one of the big gags is that one of the guys ordered a Big Baller shirt in September and has yet to receive it. He’s gotten the run-around from their support, which is only available via email, and the gag is that he’s basically just been robbed of $50. LaVar Ball is a buffoon, but we live in a world where that’s a marketable talent.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Maybe I’m just bitter I haven’t figured out how to cash in on that market.

    2. Tundra

      I thought they were pretty funny.

    3. Psycho Effer

      “…calling him an ungrateful fool.” Why do they insist on deriding Trump when he states facts accurately? This does not help the author’s credibility.

  77. The Late P Brooks

    Mumbo jumbo

    “It can be quite dangerous to allow inflation to drift down and not to achieve over time a central bank’s inflation target,” she said Tuesday, while also discussing perils of leaving rates too low for too long.

    “One reason it’s dangerous is because inflation expectations are likely to also drift down and indeed there is some evidence — I don’t really think they’ve drifted down very much — but there’s some suggestion,” they may be drifting down, she said at an event at New York University moderated by former Bank of England GovernorMervyn King. “That would be a very undesirable state of affairs.”

    Very dangerous indeed. Price stability is bad for business, if your business is printing money.

    1. Hyperion

      A disciple of the Knugnuts school of economics?

    2. See Double You

      “One reason it’s dangerous is because” it is dangerous. QED.

    1. Ed Wuncler

      The best way to deal with this sort of behavior is to expel the students from school. This bullshit will continue because the perpetrators know that they will get away with this bullshit.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        What is it they keep saying? Something like “well, the pain is real”. OK, then. Make the punishment real too.

      2. Hyperion

        And it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, because a majority of people will never find out it was a hoax. CNN and other mainstream media will report it as a fact until it gets old and the next hoax arises, which they will also report as the gospel, wash, rinse, repeat.

        They have no morals or principles. Just look how they are furiously penning articles defending Al Franken, who is ironically enough, being accused of the same thing that they are condemning Republicans for. They don’t even try to hide their hypocrisy any longer.

    2. Ed Wuncler

      And the fucked up part about all of this is when something actually racially motivated happens (which is rare) no one will care because of shit like this. These assholes are so enthralled with their moral superiority that they can’t see that going down this path is counterproductive and dangerous.

      1. Count Potato

        “A New York Times article from last September that went viral only recently: Crying Wolf, Then Confronting Trump. It asks whether Democrats have “cried wolf” so many times that nobody believes them anymore. And so:

        When “honorable and decent men” like McCain and Romney “are reflexively dubbed racists simply for opposing Democratic policies, the result is a G.O.P. electorate that doesn’t listen to admonitions when the genuine article is in their midst”.

        I have a different perspective.Back in October 2015, I wrote that the picture of Trump as “the white power candidate” and “the first openly white supremacist candidate to have a shot at the Presidency in the modern era” was overblown. I said that “the media narrative that Trump is doing some kind of special appeal-to-white-voters voodoo is unsupported by any polling data”, and predicted that:

        If Trump were the Republican nominee, he could probably count on equal or greater support from minorities as Romney or McCain before him.

        Now the votes are in, and Trump got greater support from minorities than Romney or McCain before him. You can read the Washington Post article, Trump Got More Votes From People Of Color Than Romney Did, or look at the raw data (source)”

        http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/

        1. Gilmore

          while i like Scotts argument in that piece, and have made various versions of the same point…

          …i don’t like the “Trump got more votes from ‘people of color’ (hate that term) than Romney or McCain”-data-point

          because they both ran against Obama.

          The better comparison is how many blacks/hispanics voted for Trump vs. Bush in 2000-or-2004, as a share of total GOP presidential voters…. not the ‘GOP share of the overall hispanic vote’, which is really just an indicator of the generational changes in the overall hispanic community

          i.e. hispanics could be a growing as a share of the overall GOP voter base without ever GOP increasing their share of the ‘total hispanic voters’, because they are likely the fastest growing group of voters in America

  78. KibbledKristen

    OK, so Harry & &David are telemarketing now? Just send me a damn catalogue and call it a day.

  79. KibbledKristen

    Just tested clean. I think I should drink some more H2O and do another test. What do y’all think? Or should I just get my ass down to the test center now?

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Drink water, a few cups of coffee, and take a diuretic- THEN get down to the test center.

      For my current job, I used mail-order powdered urine and some toe warmers to get it up to body temp. We chubbies have trouble clearing out lipid-soluble materials, unfortunately.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      If you’re testing clean, go. Not sure what the testing center’s going to say about an overly dilute sample.

      1. KibbledKristen

        I’m gonna slow down on the water and see what happens.

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        Not sure what the testing center’s going to say about an overly dilute sample

        Right. They have to expect people will drink a lot of water if they know they need to fill a cup.

    3. Just stop doing heroin already.

    4. KibbledKristen

      Peed clean again. Gonna bite the bullet and do it. Leaving in 20 mins. Wish me luck!

    5. TK

      Who drug tests as a professional organization? I thought this system was just for keeping minimum wage employees out of work.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        The government. Government contractors. Hospitals and the like.

        1. KibbledKristen

          ^^ This

          Unfortunately my new job is with a big company that can afford such things for their gubmint contractors. Never tested for my job at State Dept because I worked for small penny-ante companies.

          Anyhoo, what’s done is done. Gave my pee about an hour ago.

          Fingers crossed.

      2. Dr Mossy Lawn

        Financials too… Full fingerprinting and NCIS checks..

        Joy happens when HR says, “Oh we don’t have your induction records from 1999… go pee in a cup again”

  80. A Leap at the Wheel

    >Hey kid, nice shot. (Its a good story, trust me!)

    And in a strange coincidence, that girl who demonstrated she could locate a 100+ lb mammal in the wilderness and deliver it a humane death from ambush, grew up and was never raped by a congresscritter or movie producer.

    Teach boys not to rape.