Recently, congress actually did something. I know, I am as shocked as you are. I was even more floored to learn that what they did was something I was happy about. The house recently passed HR 38, better known as the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. This bill, if passed, will provide ‘full faith and credit’ protections provided by the constitution to concealed carry permits. What this means is that your state issued concealed carry permit will be valid in all states, just like your driver’s license and marriage license (SLD fucking state licensing). This of course has caused much pant shitting terror in the liberal world, because if enacted, flyover hicks (myself included) would be crawling all over New York, LA, and every other liberal bubble armed to the teeth. It’s one thing to arm criminally negligent illegal aliens or teenage gang members, but that hayseed with a MAGA hat and a Ruger LCR in his pocket is just too much to deal with. Today I want to take a glimpse into the future, a future where concealed carry is the de facto legal standard. Join me while we explore.. TRUMPS AMERICA! (horns blare, title fades to black)
What would be the result of national reciprocity? Defiant hysterical opposition, initially. Those latte sipping snowflakes aren’t going to just smile nervously and let a bunch of heavily armed Nazis march into their cities (insert France joke here). Expect a lot of illegal arrests, a lot of lawsuits, and probably at least one officer involved shooting where he is as guilty as the DNC’s IT staff but gets off cause ‘muh fear for muh safety!’. Eventually the defendants will be found innocent, the unlawful detainment lawsuits will succeed, and the coasts will be brought kicking and screaming to the reality that we do live in the same country. This is where it gets interesting. You see, once the coastal elite realize no one is coming to save them and this is the reality they now inhabit, they are going to have to make a choice: either stick to their guns (pun intended) and insist their path is righteous, or demand to have the same ability to carry concealed as the unwashed horde now terrorizing their city. Knowing what I know about the average progressive and his moral integrity, they will universally choose the latter. I expect to see mobs with pitchforks and torches (since, you know, they don’t have guns) demanding shall issue concealed carry in all of the restrictive states within a few years. Hawaii may be able to hold out, since they are an island and flying with guns is still a pain in the ass, but the rest will fall like dominos.
Then the miracle will happen. Those people on the coasts, the ones that swore to god and their country that national reciprocity would lead to blood in the streets, that Armageddon is nigh, will wake up and realize that they are still alive. Some of them might even find a handgun on their nightstand and a second picture ID in their wallet. And that is when the lie will come crashing down. They will realize that gun ownership is not some mark of the devil, and that carrying a gun doesn’t turn you into a Klansman. It is simply the end result of being a responsible member of society. A society that understands that there are those that exist to exploit and intimidate others for their own personal gain, and at the end of the day you are your own first responder.
Am I being a bit naive in my assessment? Perhaps. Maybe the courts completely disregard the written intent and prior law and declare the bill unconstitutional. Perhaps the police simply ignore the law and the prosecutors look the other way. Maybe the blue states prosecute every defensive shooting so aggressively that carrying concealed is a greater liability than it is worth. But maybe I am right. And if I am, this will be the greatest cultural shift in America in recent history. For the first time in 50 years, guns will become normalized. That is what the progressives truly fear. They have based so much of their rhetoric on othering gun owners, painting them as racists, knuckle draggers, vigilantes, closet murders, that should the curtain be pulled back on this it would be damn near a death blow to their culture war. How can you continue to live the lie of the evil gun owner when your daily existence contradicts that? When your friends and relatives prove you wrong every time you go out to dinner? When random strangers smile and hold open doors for you instead of shooting you dead? You can’t. This is my vision of the future. As a gun owner, and an eternal optimist, I can only hope.
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I look forward to visiting family in NJ and not having to disarm before going.
As a follow-up to the comments about Heinlein on the previous article, I highly recommend Andy Weir’s new book Artemis. It reads like classic Heinlein complete with libertarian values.
Weir got a very nice interview in Writer’s Digest – well worth reading.
*gets misty eyed at future laid out by Vhyrus*
I hope he’s right, but the left has been conditioned to have a deep and abiding fear of guns. They aren’t going to lose that overnight. Look for more DC government type shenanigans for a very long time.
Yes. I don’t expect anything to change. I think the courts will find plenty of ways to twist the law around so that it is a dead letter.
The federal courts, at least some of them, have been pretty receptive to 2A arguments of late, hopefully more so every day with new appointments. The problem is that CC folks are going to be tried and convicted in state court before they can turn to the feds for relief. As stated by others, the process is the punishment.
I’m a little more cynical than you, given the holes in Heller that Scalia left us.
I know the process is the punishment. Philly cops are well known for harassing gun owners that are carrying legally. Pennsylvania does not require a permit for open carry except in Philly. The cop is actually not being all that bad
I expect more shenanigans from the coastal states over this than the flyovers had over gay marriage.
I figure it’ll look like AZ now. We all know except in Tucson and Sedona, everybody has a gun on them or at least nearby. Just nobody talks about it because it’s really nobody’s business what lurking in your pants.
Like Huffpo in safari
Did that Bus o’ Tards every make its journey through the post-Apocalyptic Wastelands of Iowa, Nebraska and Idaho?
They did, and came back with nothing.
They found that one guy somewhere that had that racist NFL joke, and that was enough for them believe they were vindicated.
Oh, yeah, that “listening tour.”
Can we skip to shall issue for Blue-state inmates like myself?
guns will become normalized. That is what the progressives truly fear.
Exactly. I have seen them explicitly argue that the “normalization” of guns will bring the shaky edifice of civilization crashing down.
Heaven forbid the average person has some familiarity with weapons that are always going to exist in some capacity or another, and could one day be used against them by criminals, an oppressive government, or a foreign invader. It’s as though some of them believe if we all just hold hands and sing Kumbaya, the guns will all magically disappear and human nature will cease to include violent elements.
I posted this once before, but I think it is perhaps more relevant now in the aftermath of the Las Vegas massacre, and to this post by Vhyrus. If anyone is looking for a next book to read, I have to recommend “Columbine” by Dave Cullen. A classmate recommended it and gave me his copy. I was nervous it was going to be a voyeuristic retelling of the massacre (which is covered in painstaking detail but is only part of the book). Instead it weaves the narrative surrounding the town seamlessly with the massacre’s larger effect on the American culture and psyche. It’s one of the best books I’ve ever read about any subject. It’s a tremendous read for liberty minded individuals, or anyone else for that matter.
There’s so much to absorb. The majority of the book takes place at a time when school shootings were a new phenomenon, so it is a little easier to forgive law enforcement when first responders admitted they had no idea how to respond to what was going on; indeed, one of them admitted the countless gunshots and multiple explosions made him think it was a terrorist attack. Some elements of law enforcement, however, behaved despicably. Within 24 hours of the shooting, a clandestine meeting was held to get local LE on the same pages regarding complains and files they had on Eric Harris stemming from complaints made by parents whose son was repeatedly threatened and attacked by Harris. Said files were lost, misplaced, lied about etc. numerous times. For better or worse, someone needs to take charge in emergency situations and that someone is usually the government. It was a disgrace and a disservice to the victims and families, desperate for trustworthy information on what the fuck just happened, that they were not able to rely on anyone for just that.
What really elevates the book is the author’s restraint. Cullen has apparently done a lot of work for Salon. You can’t tell here. The reader doesn’t need to be told law enforcement, the media, and various individuals who tried to capitalize on the tragedy in whatever way behaved despicably. The author simply presents all of the information he has accumulated and trusts that his readers will be able decipher it for themselves. It’s exactly the type of journalism we never see anymore (if in fact it was ever a widespread practice to begin with). The author makes only one judgement, but it is a huge and important one. Without spoiling too much, the last third of the book largely consists of one of the most disturbing looks into psychopathy I have ever read.
What is also immensely refreshing is that Cullen keeps 100% of the blame exactly where it belongs: on Eric and Dylan. Yes, some things had to go wrong for guns to end up in their hands. They convinced a girl of legal age who had a crush on Dylan to procure guns for them at a gun show and Eric managed to get set up with a low life who sold him a TEC-9 for a couple hundred dollars. Again, these occurrences are presented as events unfolding in a nightmarish sequence and not as building blocks of an agenda. Rather than fall into that trap, the author keeps the focus on the perpetrators and desperately attempts to describe why in the world these two boys were so intent on hurting people. The book should be used as Exhibit A in the argument I have read on these blogs time and again: if someone is intent enough on inflicting human harm, they are going to find a way to do it and the means they use to inflict that harm are ultimately less important.
The book does not shy away from the more uncomfortable, unavoidable human elements of tragedy. It acknowledges that while there was immense unity in the wake of the tragedy, eventually human nature and the inexorable status quo set back in. People grumbled about whether the victims’ families were hoarding attention for themselves as the months and years wore on. Reporters eagerly interviewed a group of students smoking outside Columbine about the upcoming 5 year anniversary only to be disappointed that the students had been in grade school at the time and only had vague recollections of what had transpired half a decade before.
It should go without saying the book is incredibly sad, but there are moments of hope. Many of the survivors and parents do not become advocates for grand causes (although some do) following the tragedy. They are indistinguishable from the people who have lived in your town forever; the mother who volunteers in church, the guy who started coaching girls basketball because they needed someone and ended up doing it for 20 years, the couple with retirement on the horizon that takes a drive past the land they intend to build a home on and spend the rest of their lives together. For the most part, the survivors and those left behind are content to seek out small victories and fleeting moments that remind them of the times before their lives were shattered. Your heart breaks for them when they achieve those.
Ken Schulz, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Ouch.
I’ll take the school shootings of the school dynamiting of the 1800s I can’t outrun bullets but I can still outrun a gunman, lot harder to outrun a bomb in spite of what I’ve seen on TV.
i am so, so surprised
but seriously, they’ll do better next time because govt always learns from its mistakes. if it doesn’t, well, customers might not come bac….. wait a second.
I am not sure what bothers me more, that they do it or that they get away with it. The average person doesn’t seem to harbor any contempt for these actions. You don’t have to (and probably shouldn’t) hate law enforcement personnel, but for fuck’s sake hold them to some standards.
For me it’s the getting away with it. You’re always going to have a few people who violate the rules. That’s human nature. But the rules need to be enforced when it happens.
Somewhat tangential, but the statement “it’s just a few bad apples” irks me every time I see someone use it in some form of apologia. The metaphor that it is alluding to is that “a few bad apples can spoil the bunch“. You’re supposed to remove the “few” bad apples lest you have nothing but bad apples left.
I’ve read it, it is really good. I’ve been to that bar mentioned as the hangout for the teachers several times.
Did that Bus o’ Tards every make its journey through the post-Apocalyptic Wastelands of Iowa, Nebraska and Idaho?
They even stopped in Nowheresville, Montana, I’m told. Who knows what they heard; I presume the selection bias prevented them from being frightened to death
Which Nowheresville was that? North-eastern Nowheresville or somewhere in the “civilized” south-western part of the state?
Isn’t that what CCW insurance is for?
Sure. But it still could be a horrible process to go through the court system. The phrase “the process is the punishment” gets thrown around a lot. It might not kill you financially (if insured) but it sure could emotionally or even physically (due to stress).
That insurance can’t get you out of criminal charges or jail. But presumably it will pay for an appeal to federal court.
The proper image for this Christmas Eve^3 firearms post: http://gun.thread.jp/cgi/anime/src/1419518772819.jpg
I want better laws. Can he bring me better laws?
Sure. Why not?
I’ll let somebody else link it, but the coroner has released cause of death info on the Vegas shooting victims. All from well placed sniper fire, apparently.
Totally typical of someone shooting like crazy with a bump stock.
somewhere in the “civilized” south-western part of the state?
I guess they stopped in Livingston, if that counts as “civilized. Nobody invited me to participate.
I’d call that “hardly” civilized. But I suppose they could have done a lot worse. Could’ve been Roundup… or *gasp* one of the reservation towns. Actually, I kind of wish they’d stopped in Harlem or Rocky Boy. Might’ve opened both their eyes.
Stopping in Rocky Boy would have freaked them out and they would have fled for Canada with their windows up.
Livingston is a pretty nice place. We used to drive there from the “Bozone” to an excellent Italian restaurant that has since closed.
The movie “Rancho Deluxe” was filmed there and in Paradise Valley. If you want to see a young Jeff Bridges, young Jimmy Buffett, Slim Pickens (who is great as always) and 1970’s Montana it is worth a watch. Trivia: The bar scenes were shot in the Murray Hotel. The Murray’s biggest suite was Sam Peckinpah last home.
I’ve been to Rocky Boy three times and that was really enough.
I’ve never been to Livingston, but if Rancho Deluxe delivers, maybe we’ll visit!
Very nice town where the Yellowstone emerges from Paradise Valley and make the big turn to the east. I recommend going up the valley to Chico Hot Springs (hot spring scene in the movie) . They used to have great dining and soaking. We never spent the night since it was so close to home. PV gets its name from the lack of snow in the winter which meant it was easy on the livestock. The views on the mountains are good, even by MT standards and you can run into Yellowstone and see the northern edge geothermal areas and wildlife including the wolves in Lamar Valley.
Since you’re talking about small town Montana, try to stop at the Yesterday Calf-A for breakfast in Dell.
… Hobbit
This post makes me want to watch Die hard and pretend John McLane isn’t a cop carrying a Beretta on a plane.
Yippie Kay-ie Melon Farmer.
I guess you’ve only watched the network TV version.
“This is what happens when you take a stranger to the Alps!”
Partial credit. I’ve only watched the network version drunk.
“Get these motherfucking Berettas off this motherfucking plane!”
It least they’re not Cobrays. Couldn’t pay me to carry one.
I wish these ladies wouldn’t keep their weapons concealed. (see how I staying on topic there?)
http://archive.is/wmZkR
2, 13, 14, 18, 33.
Q to save the conversation. ORGY
33 & 35
I like dirndls (#5) and the Tilted Kilt (#36).
I kind of wish they’d stopped in Harlem or Rocky Boy. Might’ve opened both their eyes.
It’s a long walk home from Rocky Boy.
And because it’s Christmas season and you’ve all been such good little Glibs this year, have some yoga pants! Go on, you deserve it!
http://archive.is/wkcCc
Now get to your bunks!
Sir, yes Sir
Yoga pants are directly responsible for the commercial success of gyms.
I’m fine with 39.
God Bless Yoga Pants
Seen on bar bathroom wall:
“Yoga pants are proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”
“No they aren’t. I could wear yoga pants and that wouldn’t make you happy.”
“Thanks Obama.”
No contest. 19.
It’s capitalist predation, all the way down
Yes, Uber’s innovation eventually reaches smaller cities in Texas and Ohio. “But the economic benefits of it are at Uber headquarters,” said Michael Storper, an economic geographer at U.C.L.A. “The people who got rich off of it are not going to be in the small area. They’re going to be where it’s invented.”
To put it more harshly, when global cities need other communities today, Ms. Sassen said, it’s often to extract value out of them. New York bankers need Middle America’s mortgages to construct securities. San Francisco start-ups need idle cars everywhere to amass billion-dollar valuations. Online retail giants need cheap land for their warehouses.
You hillbilly mugs need to move to civilization. Otherwise, you’ll be stuck in your one horse town, blowing your
welfareuniversal basic income check on heroin and drowning your sorrows in Victory Gin down at the Legion hall as you await the sweet release of death, while the elites laugh openly at you from their sparkly skyscrapers.They don’t see that even a few thousand dollars extra income can make a real difference to many Uber drivers. Also, doesn’t even have to be Uber – they broke the back of the taxi cartel, which frees anyone to drive and they can handle their own bookings.
For many people, especially those making above it, there is an element of condescension in their support for maintaining/increasing the minimum wage. Sure, it’s couched in all the noblest terms, and there’s envy mixed in with the condescension. But it is, in part, a statement that nobody deserves to make some money unless it’s up to a certain standard. Your job, your life, it’s all so petty and small. There are so many better things for you to do than to earn such a pittance of a living.
I realize that being dumb and condescending is the NYT way, but could they at least show some semblance of understanding?
People take out mortgages so they can buy a house. They don’t walk away with nothing but a monthly payment to a fat cat. They walk away with a goddamn house.
People take Uber rides so they can go somewhere. And people drive for Uber so they can make some money. Both the rider and the driver get something out of the transaction completely apart from Uber’s cut (which goes to fund their operations so they can continue to facilitate these beneficial transactions, but I digress).
You funny, kbolino.
They are so hopelessly provincial it’s pitiable.
have some yoga pants!
CARAMBA!
More 80’s music videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwrYMWoqg5w
80’s music video (technically)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HTVMh7fur4
Vulcan chicks are hawt.
I expect more shenanigans from the coastal states over this than the flyovers had over gay marriage.
Exactly. Just as those coastal snobs looked down their noses, in October 2016, and said, “What if those cretinous deplorables refuse to accept the results of a legitimate election?”
Funny considering that the did their best to make the election anything but legitimate and they still lost.
Fuckin Hell. It has been snowing steadily since some time last night. At least a foot of new snow out there. I am in full hibernation mode.
We got freezing rain starting about the time I got off work.
Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, or Yule, Hannukah, or whatever. And safe travels.
You too. Get some fine scotch, good company and communion with the universe.
Thanks, buddy. You, too. And thanks for the mammaries.
*narrows holiday gaze*
I’m staying home for the holidays. Had to do some last minute shopping in shitty weather this afternoon.
And the same to you!
Yay a gun thread.
Ok, so considering getting my first proper rifle. As much because the usual suspects don’t want people to have them as because shooting is fun, and there are some very dangerous targets out there that need to be stopped before they give someone a nasty paper cut.
Given that those usual suspects aren’t likely to ever stop in the quest for a gun free utopia, and black rifles are the first stop on that train, the 80% lower method seems somewhat prudent since it allows plausible deniability.
On the other hand, given how many millions have been sold in the last decade or so, the extra effort in using an 80% lower kinda seems not worth it vs just getting a stripped lower.
What say you Glibs?
If this is your first rifle ever, I wouldn’t recommend jumping to an 80% lower right off the bat. I’d buy a cheap (but good) fully assembled AR first and learn it backwards and forwards. Fully disassemble it and get really comfortable with it. Then jump into the 80% lower game. Unless you have access to a legit machine shop, I’d recommend polymer 80 since all you need is a drill press, hand drill and dremel to complete it.
As far as the low cost, decent quality AR, I’d suggest an M&P 15 Sport.
For my first AR, I picked up a stripped lower and a PSA rifle kit and a couple other minor parts, scope, and mount. I dropped it all off at my favorite gunsmith for him to assemble. I couldn’t have been more pleased with the results.
Get a normal lower and build your own from parts. Once you have a working reliable rifle you can dip your toes in the murky waters of 80% lowers, but you want a gun done right first so you know it works.
If you have the tools and are not afraid of screwing it up, get the 80%. If you have no qualms with the background check, a stripped lower is a lot of fun to assemble.
Something I forgot to mention, assembling your own AR will give you a better understanding of the overall function of the rifle, I highly recommend assembling it on your own.
Do it the Soviet way. Use nothing but a hammer, a blowtorch, a file, and a shovel – then beat and heat the shovel into a GLORIOUS KALASH. You may use the file if you wish to ‘fine tune’ the later parts you must rivet or weld to the lower.
For a first/possibly only rifle, get a complete gun to start with. Learning to shoot is complicated enough, without trying to build your own gun at the same time.
I made my first rifle just last month with an 80% lower. You can buy jigs to do the work and all you need to supply are a drill and a router. It takes a couple of hours. There are some great Youtube videos on assembly out there once you have the lower done. If you have even basic skills with tools you can do this. But! The jig costs money, the drill bits and mill cost money, and all the other parts of the gun cost more separately than you’d pay for an already-assembled gun. So the 80% route is more expensive. I did it this way because somehow it’s still legal in California to build your own and not register it, and I enjoy making things. If that’s not your bag, getting one that’s already finished is a much cheaper route.
Some assembly required doesn’t bother me.
I wouldn’t be messing with assembling an upper anyway because factory assembled seem to cost less (for 5.56 anyway).
I’ve filled out a number of yellow forms (are they still yellow? its been a few years) in the past so a background check isn’t a problem to pass of course, more just thinking about the paper trail it leaves.
Maybe I just need to loosen the tin foil beanie…
They’re white now. I noted a new question about whether or not you’ve renounced your citizenship.
Oh and local laws are not an issue in that I don’t live in a control freak state. If anything they’ve been going the opposite direction the last couple years.
Speaking of….
I assume (devoutly hope) the dreaded “pass through income LOOPHOLE” will benefit Uber drivers and others in the gig economy.
I wonder how many of the people freaking out about fat cats getting a tax break even realize how many Schedule C filers there are.
the extra effort in using an 80% lower kinda seems not worth it vs just getting a stripped lower.
It may or may not be a consideration in your case, but as I understand it if you decide to sell a gun built on an 80% receiver *legally* it will require a significant amount of extra fucking around.
*like getting a serial number from the ATF
That is 100% false unless you have some State law saying otherwise. There is no federal requirement that a firearm must be serialized by anyone who is not an FFL holder.
You cannot sell a gun without a serial number. This much is true. The ATF does not give out serial numbers though, the manufacturer does. Since you are the manufacturer, that means you decide the serial number. You can literally scratch a ‘1’ on the side of the receiver and it is officially serialized.
If you happen to be an FFL holder you would then require a 4473 with serial number to sell it–if not you scratch “1” on it and that’s it?
Its why I never liked the 80% thing, some bureaucrat says that’s a scratch and not a “1” suddenly you’re in Federal court.
Then write ’01’ or ‘MS01’ or ‘THISISASERIALNUMBERFUCKOFFSLAVER’
THISISASERIALNUMBERFUCKOFFSLAVER
This is an empty threat, not a serial number.
//ATF
Better yet, write, ‘MOLON LABE’.
You cannot sell a gun without redecoration if you hold an FFL. A ‘serial number’ is required for recordation in the bound book. The serial number need not be a number. These are the fedral laws and there are no like requirements for individuals which are not regulated by the ATF as FFL holders are regulated. You may sell a firearm, as you may sell any other personal property subject to federal and state laws. You are not required to conduct a background check or conduct any investigation.
To further clarify – if you manufacture a firearm in your garage you are not a ‘manufacturer’ under the Act. You need not obtain an FFL, you need not report the act of manufacturing. Your firearm does not require a serial number of any kind. If however, you are in the ‘business’ of firearms manufacturing then you must obtain the proper FFL for whatever business you are conducting.
This is true. However, it is common courtesy to put a serial number on a gun you make and later sell, because if that person ever wants to sell it to an FFL it’s going to become a serious pain in the ass.
Fair enough. I’m not purposefully trying to be pedantic, I simply would rather not leave things to the interpretation of a bureaucrat. Least of all one from an agency with a history of changing how it interprets and enforces law.
Risk mitigation is a fair point to raise. Counterpoint: When we give in to fear, we lose our Liberty. Don’t make their job easier for them, don’t give them room to regulate by saying that regulation is only displacing a ‘marginal case’. If I’m ever a billionaire I will personally manufacture pistols and rifles and hand them out for free on the street corner.
And I will accept your free guns.
Street corner? If you’re that rich, you could have a flying stone head to deliver them from.
If I’m ever a billionaire
What a couple hundred million would be enough for you? greedy gun-hoarding jerk.
I want to make sure I’ve got enough to cover the inevitable legal fees and wrongful death suits.
But you must be an FFL, or go through one, to sell most guns across state lines.
I thought New Hampshire had a requirement that all modern firearms (NH’s definition of antique is different from the Feds) had to have a serial number. I can’t find the law, so either my memory is faulty or the law was repealed.
ITS HAPPENING
Been there, done that a few thousand times.
//Oprah
Mythical Libertarian Woman you now have your next assignment!
Yes, please!
I’m pretty sure their tips on getting fucked in the ass would have been more generally useful if she had won.
sp101 or model 60?
depends on the price.
the 60 pro is about 600-650.
the 101 match is about 650.
then https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=5771&Sort=13 is 560+
I should probably shoot both. the girlfriend wants one. I’ll be bringing her to the range to try.
if the price is the same probably s&w. If the Ruger is cheaper get that.
thanks, Vhy.
One thing I found in my recent revolver shopping, is Ruger’s have a more consistent stock DA trigger. S&W can put out a good one on standard models but they are hit and miss. When they miss, Ruger’s are often a lot better. Ruger’s also are a bit heavier which will make them comparatively more pleasant to shoot .357 or hotter .38 +p.
I’ll try to see if I can spot the difference.
Those rubber/wood composite grips on the Rugers look particularly nice.
Yes they do. I’m a fan of that style.
I’ve been shooting the same Ruger Blackhawk .357 since 1977. It is a fine solid firearm that has filled my meat locker with vension, javelina and antelope.
Consider the GP-100. The smaller-frame SP in .357 is painful to shoot, where the heavier-frame GP is a joy.
Mrs. Hobbit has a 3-inch model and I have the 4-inch.
… Hobbit
Make sure you inspect the gun carefully. There are Youtube videos on what to check for.
I’d probably stick to new online, and I will check local if used.
good reminder. I hadn’t watched those in a while.
Oh. Buying new. N/M.
No you never know. I’m not above a used gun in any way. we just don’t have too many stores around.
I’ve bought two used guns via Gunbroker. The FFL I use is a gunsmith, so when I go and pick them up, I get him to do a cursory inspection (which he does at no additional cost to me, although his FFL fees aren’t the cheapest) and when I contact the sellers before the sale, I tell them that this is what I’m going to do, and get confirmation that they understand. I’ve done this with about 6 or 7 auctions I’ve bid on and none of the sellers have baulked.
If the gun isn’t up to snuff, I refuse to take the gun, and I always pay using a money order.
great advice. Thanks!
Are you absolutely wedded to the idea/size of the Model 60 against, say, the 66?
The 66 is a bigger frame – if you and the GF have large enough hands – and it weighs about 12oz more, which means it’s far nicer to shoot at the range, but not as good for carry.
I’m not, but it would be something to carry. I’ll pick the 66 up as well.
It’s big as a carry piece, but then, you’re in a sensible state.
To further clarify – if you manufacture a firearm in your garage you are not a ‘manufacturer’ under the Act. You need not obtain an FFL, you need not report the act of manufacturing. Your firearm does not require a serial number of any kind. If however, you are in the ‘business’ of firearms manufacturing then you must obtain the proper FFL for whatever business you are conducting.
I may have misinterpreted what I was told by my gunsmith/builder acquaintance.
If you construct more than one or two 80% firearms, and some evidence can be found that you intended to fabricate the weapons and then “lose interest” and sell to a friend, you could suddenly find that someone, somewhere starts to keep a close eye on you. And that’s something that’s really worth avoiding.
I originally thought this image had 1 guy in the corner actually holding up this sign…. but its actually just on the wall behind him. Still, it would be hilarious way to photobomb* (pun intended) a bunch of screaming jihadis
What I want to know is why the guy in the middle has a flag growing out of his gun barrel.
if you’re wondering what’s that shit stuffed in all of their mouths, its Khat, which is basically the “chewable cocaine of the arab world”, popular in places like Yemen, Somalia, elsewhere.
“Hey habib, we’re having a jihadi-scream photo sesh down in the souq”
“aw, shit: its on, bro”
(stuff face full of plant matter)
Khat plus some nutcases with bad trigger discipline adds up to “last place I wanna be today”.
I wonder how often jihadis kill each other via ND. I’ve never seen them without their finger on the trigger.
Not often enough to correct the behavior.
There was a great YouTube video of some guy ventilating a wedding partier in the back of the head during a conga line.
This was it. Damn bump-fire stocks (NSFW)
But youtube has dozens of clips, so you know there’s a veritable holocaust of ND stupidity going on around the world.
Seen on FB: Puppy mills at the mall break my heart.
My response: Its 2017. Why are you at the mall?
I’ll be surprised if she doesn’t unfriended me yet.
She does know the mill isn’t at the mall, right? That’s just the store that buys from the mill.
I think that’s assuming a lot.
Nice article, btw. I hope you are right about the tides changing.
1. That assumes the store at the mall is unethical enough to buy from a “mill.” It’s possible the store’s owner isn’t that much of an asshole.
2. She’s a college professor. Her PhD is in American Political Science. I’ve had to correct her on her remark about America being a democracy–so no, she’s an idiot.
Mistrial declared in Cliven Bundy standoff case
Doesn’t look like it’s over for them, yet, though.
Somewhere there is a low-level attorney with his eye on the prize adjusting his club tie, greeting superiors with a firm but obsequious handshake and ginning up new charges for the Bundys. They told Chocolate Jesus to go fuck himself and this must never be countenanced.
It’s neither here nor there for me but anything that forces the prognation into conniptions is A-Okay with this cynical old fuck. This past year and two months has been delightful.
(have been) fuck.
Looks like the FBI recruited another terrorist.
What will get really nasty is when these nutcases *stop* posting ‘likes’ on facebook.
The one “conspiracy theory” that I’m actually convinced of is that the Boston Marathon bombing was an FBI sting that got away from them.
I’d like to know what in the ever living fuck is going on re: Mandalay?
I’m sure that many of these incidents have US government fingerprints on them. An agent egging the perp on, or a shop selling something to the guy because the FBI told him it would be OK, and that it’s part of the plan to ensure they get a conviction.
Seeing how poorly senior FBI personnel are at keeping their political biases secret, it’s easy (and probably wise) to assume that there are agents and cases out there that would be better managed by the Keystone Cops. Hell, the stand-in actors for the Keystone Cops.
OT: Stolen from TOS, your Christmas weekend nutpunch
So they tried to shoot an unarmed woman in the back and ended up shooting a kid (well, they hit the target as well, but with so much bullet spray they had to, just by chance).
And that “switching places with the kid” part from the Sheriff? It wouldn’t bring him back, but I wouldn’t be sad if this kid’s family put one in the brainstem of every one of these officers, the Sheriff with them.
(fuck, I’m gonna end up getting this place investigated, aren’t I)
Harbor Freight is having a sale on woodchippers, donchano.
“Trade places if we could”? fuck a woodchippers to good for that asshole.
Probably already on some list or another.
*shrug*
Heh. I’m a fairly unassuming guy and I’m sure I’m on at least a couple lists. I don’t worry much about it.
The question I have for you AR fans is do I need an upper like this https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XWAUT91&name=WOLF+A1+.223%2f5.56+Gas+Piston+Upper+Receiver&groupid=8045 ?
Okay, so that is not your ordinary upper. That is a gas piston upper. And that particular upper is not your normal gas piston upper. That is a civilian legal reproduction of the Taiwanese T91 upper, the official rifle of the Taiwan military. It has particular value for military nerds and the like. If you have a hard on for military authentic gear, go for it.
I wasn’t sure what the appeal was. Your explanation makes me think my money is better spent on something else. Thanks.
Get ready to dive deep into the GI vs Piston Wars.
You have been warned.
GI? DI. Duh.
“I can definitively tell you that myself and all the deputies involved, there’s not a single one us of that wouldn’t trade places with this child,” Salazar told reporters late Thursday.
“But- since that’s a completely empty claim, we’ll all be going home safely to our families.”
Maybe we could do it, to save the 6 year old kid they haven’t killed yet.
Air National Guard fly-by for this grandstanding cocksucker. Christ, what an asshole.
For those who are looking for a quick list of whales to look for. Paste’s top beers of the year from their blind tastes. If it makes any of you feel better, I’ve only had two of these (the two Belgians).
So “whales” can mean anything now? It used to be about the chubby chicks at last call. I feel so othered I can’t even…
In the beer community a whale is a reference to a rare beer to hunt down, as one would hunt for a certain white whale.
Yeah, I thought that was going to be John bait
I appreciate your time spent writing another gun article for us Vhyrus! What do you think of the Fix Nics provision?
Video from the last Glibertarians meetup.
I didn’t anticipate anything that high energy.