Monday Afternoon Linkses

Happy Monday.

This gibberish makes absolutely no sense to me. Do you mean to tell me that Illinois, blue anchor of the plains, doesn’t have some sort of mandatory sentencing for gun crimes?

Milo Y must be crying himself to sleep at night on a huge pile of money. I hope he spends it on good stuff. Like coke and rent boys.

Golden RETRIEVER does what it was genetically bred to do. Humans add stupid anthropic reasons to it.

Wall these in, put in some Kleenex. Bang. I’ll have men begging their wives to go to the mall.

Damn, this is what happens when you lose a bet as a baboon.

 

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672 responses to “Monday Afternoon Linkses”

  1. grrizzly

    Meanwhile, there’s other stuff happening in Russia besides meddling with the US elections.

    1. KibbledKristen

      Linky no work. Did they pull the Tweet?

      1. Hyperion

        Russians hacked the link.

      2. grrizzly

        They pulled it, but I found an even better version.

        1. Zunalter

          I eagerly await the followup where that motorbike gets in an inevitable wreck and the ensuing carnage.

        2. Vhyrus

          That video was almost unbearable.

          1. Zunalter

            Oh boy, not another one of these grizzly pun threads.

          2. Seguin

            He was pretty calm. I know I hate just sitting on my urse in traffic.

          3. Zunalter

            At least if you are carpooling, you can spend some koalaty time with your passengers.

          4. Agent Cooper

            Let’s just hit paws on these puns, guys.

          5. Zunalter

            I don’t know, I have a few more bruin that I want to use.

          6. MikeS

            Y’all are gonna give me Kodiak arrest

        3. Only in Arkhangelsk….

  2. Sean

    First day back to work after vacation sucks.
    Also, that’s cool with the retriever.

    1. Yessir – got to catch up on all the work that piled up when you were gone. Yay!

    2. ArchieBunker

      Tell me about it. I put in 4 hrs and then decided it would be a good half-day. If these progs start pushung paid vacations to recover from our vacations i might just jump on board

  3. ChipsnSalsa

    Wall these in, put in some Kleenex. Bang. I’ll have men begging their wives to go to the mall.

    I’m just happy with a comfortable chair.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      Wall them with one way mirrors.

    2. Rasilio

      I thought that was what the Tilted Kilt was for?

      The food sucks but the scenery is awesome

  4. Illinois doesn’t have gun crimes because they’ve outlawed gun crimes.

    1. Hyperion

      “To help respond to the daily wail of sirens, one focus should be on enhancing penalties for repeat gun offenders and ensuring local judges enforce the law.”

      Because we haven’t made guns illegal enough yet, we’re going to make them more illegal! /leftist strategy on everything

    2. Zunalter

      Oh hey, that was smart of them, we should try that everywhere!

      Come to think of it, if we outlawed every type of crime we would live in a Utopia! Let’s do that!

    3. Agent Cooper

      Legalize narcotics.

  5. F. Stupidity Jr.

    I’m feeling rather lazy today.

    Do you mean to tell me that Illinois, blue anchor of the plains, doesn’t have some sort of mandatory sentencing for gun crimes?

    something something guns from Indiana

    Milo Y must be crying himself to sleep at night on a huge pile of money.

    something something Uncle Bruce

    Golden RETRIEVER does what it was genetically bred to do.

    something something Incredible Journey

    I’ll have men begging their wives to go to the mall.

    something something perving at Aeropostale

    Damn, this is what happens when you lose a bet as a baboon.

    something something Leslie Jones

    1. Bobarian LMD

      I laughed way too hard at that last one.

      “You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free. “

      1. bacon-magic

        RACIST

  6. DOOMco

    Amazon has almost run out of milo’s book.

    1. Hyperion

      Don’t try to tell me it’s more popular than Chelsea’s book, you shitlord!

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Chelsea…Handler?

      2. SugarFree

        The nefarious, right-wing book company overprinted Chelsea’s book to make it look less popular.

        1. Hyperion

          The great right wing conspiracy haunting the poor Clinton’s, forever.

        2. F. Stupidity Jr.

          Chelsea, being such a voracious reader, read like 100,000 copies of Dangerous, thus the shortage.

        3. A Leap at the Wheel

          She just can not catch a break!

          1. Zunalter

            I know, right? Her life is a mix of hardscrabble living and overcoming all of the cultural obstacles of being a child of one of the most politically powerful and connected families in the US and a woman. I mean, if that doesn’t reek of perseverance, I don’t know what does.

          2. Zunalter

            Attempt #2:

            I know, right? Her life is a mix of hardscrabble living and overcoming all of the cultural obstacles of being a child of one of the most politically powerful and connected families in the US and a woman. I mean, if that doesn’t reek of perseverance, I don’t know what does.

          3. Bobarian LMD

            I know, right? Her life is a mix of hardscrabble living and overcoming all of the cultural obstacles of being a child of one of the most politically powerful and connected families in the US and a woman. I mean, if that doesn’t reek of perseverance, I don’t know what does.

            /Fixed it!

          4. Zunalter

            Third time really is the charm.

          5. A Leap at the Wheel

            Also, poor girl got her looks from her dad, Janet Reno 🙁

          6. tarran

            No, you’re thinking of Webb Hubbell .

          7. DenverJ

            Wait, Webb Hubble got his looks from his dad, Janet Reno?

      3. Gadfly

        Well, Chelsea’s children’s book was number one in the kids’ section. At first it was cause to despair, but book #2 was “Dragons love Tacos 2”, which was comforting. We can all guess which book will see more requests for a reread from the tyke generation.

        1. Hyperion

          Who knew that dragons are cultural appropriating shitlords.

        2. Bobarian LMD

          “Dragons love Tacos 2” sounds like lesbian porn.

          1. Tundra

            Would watch.

          2. westernsloper

            + one download

  7. KibbledKristen

    The absolute worst thing about Trump? Like, beyond the Pale horrible? Jeff Fucking Sessions.

    1. DOOMco

      True.

    2. Count Potato

      Trump campaigned that he was adamantly in favor of medical marijuana. But I don’t know of anything he’s done in that direction so far.

      1. SugarFree

        Nothing. He could take it off schedule one with a single signature. He could deprioritize the DEA going after dispensaries. He could sell Sessions back to the Island of Lost Boys.

        1. Hyperion

          If Trump descheduled cannabis, the left’s heads would explode. It would be the funniest thing that’s ever happened. Of course, not going to happen.

          1. SugarFree

            Maybe when he needs to distract them for a news cycle…

          2. Bring on the TDS, I guess!

          3. Gadfly

            Summer, 2018, right before the midterm campaigning starts.

            Not going to happen, but if it were, that’s when.

          4. Hyperion

            Democrats: First Republicans kick everyone off healthcare and now they’re tying to kill your children with dangerous marijuana!

          5. Gadfly

            Democrats: First Republicans kick everyone off healthcare and now they’re tying to kill your children with dangerous marijuana!

            Which is why, if it were to happen, it would happen shortly before the election. It would, by necessity, throw the Dems so off course that they would have trouble lining up behind a coherent criticism and would be distracted from talking about what they wanted to talk about.

          6. Brochettaward

            His own party would be all over him.

          7. Viking1865

            His own party would be all over him.

            Or it could be a Nixon to China moment.

          8. wdalasio

            His own party would be all over him.

            Would they, though? My sense is that, for Republicans, marijuana is one of those that they’d all like to ditch, but no one can be the first because they’re afraid the rest of the party will call them a hippy liberal. They know its a loser politically because, at this point, even 70% of the socons under 50 probably smoked pot at least once or twice in college. If Trump were to deschedule it, it would be really, really easy for the GOP to hide behind states’ rights to justify it.

          9. The Zenome Project

            I think a pro-marijuana GOPer would have to win a traditionally red state to start changing the political fear that the establishment right has about weed. You can do it, Austin Petersen!

          10. PBRstreetgang

            I read that as descheduled “Cannibals”.
            Not a terrible idea.

    3. Worker and Parasite

      If it weren’t for Sessions, I’d have an almost entirely positive view of Trump.

    4. Hyperion

      Poor Jeffrey, he’s just trying to save the children from reefer madness and everyone gets all upset over it.

    5. AceDroman

      +1

      1. NOT a Naked Intruder

        More like +420.

    6. KibbledKristen

      As part of his ramping up the failed drug war, he’s getting more aggressive with asset forfeiture.

      He caused me to set up a monthly donation to IJ.

  8. Count Potato

    ““Race fatigue is a real physical, mental, and emotional condition that people of color experience after spending a considerable amount of time… in the presence of white people.”

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/nyu-librarian-fatigued-white-people-i-am-suffering

    1. SugarFree

      To be fair, I get that as well. Only with white girls and at work.

      1. John Titor

        Yeah I think it’s going to be a lot harder to sell ‘gender fatigue’ but we all know it’s true.

        1. Hyperion

          You guys trying to say that sitting in a meeting listening to women talk about shoes for an hour is tiring?

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Only if you actually listen.

            After 25 years of marriage, I’ve mastered the art of making that ‘ME’ time.

          2. SP

            All 25 years to the same spouse?

          3. Bobarian LMD

            Yes, ma’am… You know the old joke about being happily married for 15 years?

    2. DOOMco

      we’re just too bland.

    3. Mad Scientist

      Look, being racist all day is very fatiguing.

      1. Suthenboy

        ^This^

        1. NOT a Naked Intruder

          So….do you think she gets that she’s the epitome of the stereotype she hates?

          https://twitter.com/AprilHathcock/status/887109526650015744

    4. Brochettaward

      This one is legit. I get fatigue when I interact with white people, too. I always thought it was just misanthropy, but my eyes are opened now.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Hating everybody is hard.

    5. mexican sharpshooter

      But when you combine that with 5 days of being talked at, over, and through by folks in a profession that’s 88% white…well, let’s just say I hit my limit.

      I can solve this lady’s problem. STOP GOING TO CONFERENCES.

    6. Zunalter

      C’mon people, that’s not racist, it is an adverse reaction to the invisible racism that all whites put off by their very existence. You know, like gamma rays and stuff.

      1. Grumbletarian

        So… ray-cism?

      2. NOT a Naked Intruder

        +1 carcinoma

    7. Chipwooder

      I’m sure men working jobs such as laying asphalt on a scorching August day are just filled with sympathy for her.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Been there, done that, fuck her.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Is there a picture in the link? To see what you’re standards are?

    8. Hyperion

      I think her fatigue is more likely due to stuffing her face with twinkies and hohos every day.

    9. ChipsnSalsa

      Just think what would happen if she met SF

    10. Agent Cooper

      FUCK OFF, THEN.

    11. Heroic Mulatto

      ““Race fatigue is a real physical, mental, and emotional condition that people of color experience after spending a considerable amount of time… in the presence of white people.”

      I know the feeling.

      1. Agent Cooper

        +3/5th

      2. Homple

        They’re more comfortable among their own kind.

    12. Suthenboy

      “Were there no POC soldiers who landed at D-Day cuz that #Dunkirk movie is looking white af.”

      The golden tweet. That is excellent April.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Yes, the 320th Barrage Balloon Battalion was involved in D-Day, but I’m not sure they were involved almost 2 years before the U.S. was even in the war.

      2. Brett L

        I mean, maybe a couple of Sikhs or Gurkhas.

    13. Gilmore

      https://twitter.com/AprilHathcock/status/886332752391524352

      April H.‏ @AprilHathcock

      Were there no POC soldiers who landed at D-Day cuz that #Dunkirk movie is looking white af. ?

      2:12 PM – 15 Jul 2017

      I’m having a hard time believing this isn’t just trolling.

    1. Count Potato

      Related:

      “California lawmakers are re-evaluating a 30-year-old law on HIV disclosure. Right now, intentionally exposing someone to HIV is a felony that could result in seven years in prison. But some state leaders call it discrimination and want the laws to reflect advances in modern medicine.”

      http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/03/28/california-lawmakers-consider-easing-states-hiv-disclosure-laws/

      Warning: another dumbass news website playing video while people are trying to read

      1. Gadfly

        It’s so discriminatory not to want to be infected with a life-long disease. When will these people get woke.

    2. Brochettaward

      Both of those people sound awful. They belong together.

    3. Brett L

      This is a work of fiction.

      1. Count Potato

        I don’t think so, since minimal efforts to dox the author found corroborating evidence.

        1. Brett L

          I just read to the part where she got slapped by a random person in her supervisory chain hard enough to draw blood and didn’t call the police. That sets off a red flag for me.

    4. Zunalter

      I do appreciate the admission that her bad experiences with her husband transferred over into every (platonic or not) relationship she had with a man from the on.

    5. Agent Cooper

      You forgot the mischevious laugh “hee hee hee” at the end.

  9. No spoilers, please.

    Did anyone catch the new episode of Game of Thrones last night? 10/10? 2/10?

    Would or would not?

    1. Brochettaward

      2/10. No tits or ass. Would not watch again.

      1. Maaaaan… Maybe the next episode will deliver…

      2. Gadfly

        So you’re saying you were dissatisfied that the only nudity you got was old-man cadaver crotch? So hard to please, you are.

        1. Brochettaward

          I would have taken John Snow’s ass by the end of it. Christ, why even watch this shit?

    2. Zunalter

      It started very nicely, and then settled into a “Get everyone re-established for interesting things to happen later”.

      I mean, if you are this far in, why stop now?

      1. Even if the last two seasons are garbage, I will probably watch them through to the end.

        1. Zunalter

          Yea I gave up hope on ever getting the rest of the books finished in the near future so I have just gone with the shows. Not every episode is amazing, but overall I am very happy with the story.

          1. Spartan Dad

            Yep, I think it’s been maybe 5 years since the last one was published. Martin made his nut and now couldn’t care less.

            Contrast that with someone like Robert Jordan who spent his literal dying days ensuring the Wheel of Time would be finished for his fans.

          2. A Leap at the Wheel

            I always compare the two because both of them needed an editor in the end but had too much ego to take one on. I’m not a huge Sanderson fan, but the guys a good mechanic and saved the series.

            But you are right. RJ, for all his flaws, went out working for his fans. Gotta respect that.

          3. I heard that Martin keeps rewriting his books whenever a new fan theory comes out that gets a little too close… Maybe that’s why it’s taking so long?

          4. Gadfly

            I heard that Martin keeps rewriting his books whenever a new fan theory comes out that gets a little too close…

            Considering that every rational outcome could be predicted by the fans, that seems like a Sisyphean battle to surprise, divorced from good storytelling and compelled by ego. If it’s true, then Martin is to books what Shyamalan is to films.

          5. Pan Zagloba

            Six.

            I couldn’t get through the first book due to his style, but his lack of writing has provided endless entertainment over the past decade. It’s hilarious!

          6. Negroni Please

            Wait, the same Robert Jordan that took what was always supposed to be a 7 book series and then milked it for twice that length? The guy who added entire books to the series where NOTHING HAPPENS? The guy who wrote 1000 page books that are roughly 40% copypasta?

            Did he even have fans in the end? I know I’m a few books shy of the end and that is crazy. I’m like 7000 pages into a series and rather than finish it I just wish I’d never started it in the first place.

          7. Zunalter

            I loved Wheel of Time, read every book, and was sad when it was finally over.

            …just me?

          8. Spartan Dad

            I enjoyed the the series too. Some of the books in the middle were kind of pointless (Jordan admitted they didn’t go where he envisioned) and some of the themes were overdone but I thought it was well done overall.

            Right now I’ve gone back in the sci-fi time machine and am rereading some Niven.

          9. Rasilio

            Yeah but Wheel of Time sucked balls. The only major fantasy series that was worse was Thomas Covenant (at least among those I’ve read)

            Book 1 of WOT should have been subtitled…

            “We could have wrapped this book up in under 30 pages had any of the characters bothered to act like normal humans and had a 5 minute conversation around the campfire”

            Instead 600 pages later we move on to book 2 where the ONLY interesting subplot from book 1 is utterly omitted

          10. You have to put the Sword of Truth in there somewhere, a never ending seriers of event where the hero has no idea what he’s doing but manages to do the right thing anyway, god what a horrible series.

          11. Worker and Parasite

            I enjoyed Covenant. I stuck with WoT through 10 books, I think, and then bailed.

            Sword of Truth? One book, and then I was out.

          12. mexican sharpshooter

            I thought the Sword of Truth series was pretty good up until the fifth book. At that point I think Goodkind realized this was making him insane amounts of money and just kept it going.

          13. Spartan Dad

            I have tried several times to get through Covenant and just can’t do it.

          14. Worker and Parasite

            The first Covenant book is awful. The writing is unbearably bad. Books 2-3 were better, and I liked the second trilogy (a friend who enjoyed the first trilogy hated the second). I don’t think anyone who passes on them is missing anything earth-shattering, though.

            Now Gormenghast–that’s must-read material.

          15. Gustave Lytton

            Bailed on WoT after about book 3 or 4 when it felt like the wheel was just spinning without any forward movement. Walked away from Sword of Truth somewhere between 5-7 (it’s been several years) when a)also no forward movement and b)preaching became excessive (and I’ve made it through Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead) and annoying even if I’m generally sympathetic.

    3. Gilmore

      yeah, it was mostly a setup-episode.

      you have to watch it, but its basically “rapidly advance characters to the final plot stages” filler.

      1. I routinely watch the Great British Baking Show. I’m used to a certain amount of filler.

        1. Mad Scientist

          Can’t they just do a montage while waiting for the water to boil?

          1. Wow. …

            montage

            You know… Plenty of women are in the kitchen these days! How about a womantage!

          2. bacon-magic

            *Dusts flour from hands* Right on, sister.

    4. DOOMco

      watching tonight.

    5. Raston Bot

      i really enjoyed it but i also thought Stannis’ slog through the frozen north to Winterfell was the best dialogue of the books.. so YMMV.

    6. “No spoilers, please.”

      He was dead the whole time, his girlfriend’s a man, “Rosebud” was the name of his sled, Janet Leigh is killed in the shower, and the so-called “ghost” was Old Man Winthrop.

      1. F. Stupidity Jr.

        Wrong movie Fusionist. Keyser Soze shot JR after he found his wife’s head in the box, which then led Dom Torretto and Jason Bourne to drive their car over the cliff while being pursued by Robocop.

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        Something something meddling kids….. /walks away muttering

      3. The only one of these I “get” and have seen is the first. I’m familiar with Rosebud and Janet Leigh, but I’ve never seen the movies. The rest just look like a crazy man rambled at the sky 😉

        1. SPOILERS

          1) Sixth Sense
          2) The Crying Game
          3) Citizen Kane
          4) Psycho
          5) [many candidates]

        2. The other two references are about a Chris Isaak song and the movie “The Big Cube”

      4. DOOMco

        In the 6th sense, you find out that that dude in the hair piece? It’s Bruce Willis, the whole movie.

      5. Akira

        The pirates are actually “noblemen gone astray” and they end up marrying the Major General’s daughters.

    7. Agent Cooper

      Killed Natalie Dormer.

      Would not watch.

      1. Left Hand of Radar

        I found the stew bowl/chamber pot montage in the Citadel a bit fucking much. That was all time that could have been devoted to titties!

  10. Worker and Parasite

    That article linked this morning about the deplorables in Grand Junction prompts me to have a question. Is living in Grand Junction/western slope awesome, or the most awesome thing ever? I’m stuck in Phoenix for a few more years, but I’ve been eyeing GJ for a while.

    1. Vhyrus

      I lived in Grand Junction, Rifle, and Silt for quite a few years. I would take Phoenix every day and twice on Sunday. If you love a podunk town full of legitimately racist white people (and nothing else), Junction is your bag.

      1. Worker and Parasite

        Podunk town within 3 hours of the parks around Moab, the Uintas, and lots of Colorado hiking? Yes. I can handle that.

        Legitimately racist white people? That part is less fun.

        1. Vhyrus

          You act like there isn’t tons of hiking with 2 hours of Phoenix. Christ go up to flagstaff. Hike the freaking grand canyon.

          1. Worker and Parasite

            I have exhausted a great deal of Arizona’s hiking. To an extent that borders on insane. Long, multiple-day trips in the Grand Canyon are my main remaining goals.

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            You don’t even have to go that far. The Superstitions are rights outside Mesa for instance. Hell, you don’t even have to leave town either if you just want to go up to Squaw Peak or Camelback.

          3. SP

            Yes, but it’s 1000F around Phoenix. Not pleasant hiking weather.

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        legitimately racist white people

        Nice. As long as they’re legitimately racist…

        1. Vhyrus

          Not sjw racist but actual ‘dey terk er jerbs’ racist. That southpark episode was a documentary.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Meh. They need AB tattoos or light crosses on fire before I pull the racist card.

          2. Vhyrus

            It’s like being an alcoholic. You don’t have to go to meetings to make it official.

          3. mexican sharpshooter

            If we are going by alcoholism standards, I’m probably a racist.

          4. Bobarian LMD

            False — If you go to meetings, you’re an alcoholic, otherwise, you’re just a drunk.

          5. westernsloper

            Aaaah, see, I didn’t read far enough down. Some on the western slope, which includes Grand Junction as well as my area, think that when the government imports workers via a visa program at a discounted rate due to the lobbying efforts of businesses, as in an employer gets a big tax break hiring a foreign worker over a local worker, it distorts the labor market. If believing that makes you a racist, I guess you would call me a racist. If I have to be called a racist because I believe in free markets, I’m not sure I am cool with that. My disagreement with distorted markets has fuck all to do with the place of origin or race of the people who are involved in doing the actual work. So if you think people who believe we should actually have constitutional equal protection, (as in equal tax burden for the employer regardless of who they hire) when it comes to trying to get a job are racists, well, then you can go fuck yourself because I am as far from a racist as you can get and I will be god damned if I will take being called one..

          6. Vhyrus

            Wow, not at all what I said, but way to strawman the fuck out of it.

            The people that I dealt with on the western slope literally made the argument “The blacks and mexicans are taking all our jobs.” Without even one whiff of anything you mentioned in that giant rant. If what you said is in fact true, then yes there would be a reasonable argument to be made there, but since this is literally the first time I’ve heard that, then that is definitely NOT the argument they were making.

          7. westernsloper

            Ya, sorry for the rant, but the, ‘dey terk er jerbs’ set me off, and it is not a straw man. A government distorted labor market is reality. Libertarians just like to ignore it. It happens year after year when businesses say they can’t get workers for the price they offer. To me, that means they are underbidding the market, but they go to the government and get waivers to import workers. Workers who live in subsidized housing because, you know it is just the right thing to do. Your tax dollars at work. I don’t know what conversations you have had or in what industry, but that gets my hackles up. Half the people around here are Hispanic and no one cares. Hell we all grew up together. I feel a person gets it from all sides on that issue. If you think there should be a free market for labor, the progs hammer you as a racist. My bad for reading your comment into my ingrained response to that.

        2. Suthenboy

          I have to say there are plenty around here on both sides but so what? I didn’t move to the middle of nowhere to be a social butterfly. I wouldn’t know the neighbor if he walked up to me in the grocery store and bit me on the ass.

          *checks pistol and peeks out of curtains*

          1. Vhyrus

            You can pull that off in a big town but try that in a place like Rifle and it’s going to go poorly for you.

            The police chief (may not have been the chief may have just been a cop) lived next door to me. I got a flat tire coming home from work one night and I made to the front of his house, so I started walking to my house to get tools. He came out of his house and said “Can I help you?” To which I replied “I got a flat but don’t worry about it I live next door.” His response? “No you don’t! I don’t know you!”

      3. You lived in Rifle?!

        *mutters about DVT*

        /Aspen

        1. Vhyrus

          Oh my GOD you’re one of those richers!

          How bout that Walmart with entrances in the front and back in Glenwood, though? Or the Rite Aid that sells guns.

      4. westernsloper

        a podunk town full of legitimately racist white people

        Who the fuck did you hang out with? I don’t know any full blown racists here. Granted I am some miles south of GJ, but…….

        1. Vhyrus

          It was more Rifle than Junction. That east side, tho…

          Granted I haven’t lived there in over a decade so it may be different now.

          1. Raven Nation

            Rifle has a pretty substantial Latino community. Which doesn’t say anything about racism I guess.

          2. Vhyrus

            Yeah, and they stay in their one little trailer park in the middle of the town like a mini ghetto. It’s not pleasant to hear the english speakers speak of them.

            So, when I lived there my sister was in elementary school. As a child she basically never spoke at school, and she looks very hispanic. A hispanic girl invited her to her birthday party. So my mom was all excited and took her to the birthday party… at the trailer park in town…. and no one spoke english. Once they figured out that my sister was not hispanic and could not speak a word of Spanish, things got very awkward. the little girl never spoke to my sister again.

          3. Raven Nation

            I don’t know Rifle that well but I’ve been there a few times with guys that work for my FIL company and there’s more than a trailer park now. I’m still not disagreeing with your overall point but my impression is that Rifle is kind of serving as a magnet for new immigrants.

          4. Vhyrus

            As I said I haven’t been there in 10-15 years so it may be different now. This was my experience in the early 2000s.

          5. Vhyrus

            This was also right after 9/11 so we got to hear more than one ‘Your dad is from Egypt, isn’t he?’ with a sharp inflection on the end. Nevermind the fact that my father was fucking jewish, they just couldn’t process anything after Egypt came up.

            My dad got pulled over in that town just about once a month until the cops figured out that he wasn’t one of ‘them’.

          6. Heroic Mulatto

            I’ve always been both amused and bemused by the yokel reaction to 9/11.

            9/10/01: I’d love to see Jew York burn to the ground!
            (Planes fly into the Twin Towers)
            9/11/01: HOW DARE THEY?!?

          7. Rhywun

            I think their goodwill toward NYC lasted about a week.

    2. Agent Cooper

      I’ve been eyeing GJ for a while.

      Well, he is known as GayJay.

  11. mexican sharpshooter

    Stories like this from a supposedly “good” VA facility make me feel a lot better about working in Phoenix.

    At a four-star veterans’ hospital: Care gets ‘worse and worse

    No not really, only the criteria used to determine these rankings is mostly meaningless.

  12. Rufus the Monocled

    No wonder the labour participation rate is low.

    DO ANY OF YOU WORK?

    NO PAY ME NOW FOR ANY OF YOU?

    1. bacon-magic

      Pay me now!

  13. Rufus the Monocled

    Hey that dog is racist!

    There’s a comment in there that made me lol.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpCte1Lbf0o

    1. Brochettaward

      You joke about a dog being racist, but there’s probably an entire body of social science literature somewhere where tenured researchers ponder the internalized racism of pets.

      1. Tundra

        Mine is. It’s embarrassing.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          I don’t like where this is heading.

          1. Tundra

            No, he’s cool with Italians.

          2. bacon-magic

            My current one loves all people. Unless you have a squirrel tail.

          3. Brochettaward

            What’s the point of having a dog if it doesn’t blindly hate your enemies?

        2. Drake

          Had a bullmastiff long ago when I lived in Los Angeles. That was one racist dog. He also had zero tolerance for homeless people (I assume it was their stink) and was known to piss on them if they were sleeping in the park.

          1. Bullmastiffs are on the long list of dogs that I would love to own if: 1) I had a bigger backyard, and B) I wasn’t too lazy to exercise them properly.

            They do seem like sweet dogs, by and large.

          2. SP

            One can train dogs to run on treadmills. My great pyr used to have to do that when we lived in Texas. It was just too darn hot to take sufficiently long walks.

          3. If you hadn’t described it with words, I’d say that’s too cute for words.

          4. Drake

            A dog you absolutely have to train while young. Ours wasn’t really mean, he just thought it fun and natural to fight with other male dogs.

          5. Mad Scientist

            Good boy!

          6. Gadfly

            He also had zero tolerance for homeless people (I assume it was their stink) and was known to piss on them if they were sleeping in the park.

            Be honest, you taught him that trick, didn’t you?

          7. BakedPenguin
    2. Gilmore

      you racist

      Kamikaze Gorilla2 years ago
      I don’t blame the dog at all. He probably saw the black kid and knew immediately that he couldn’t swim.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        That’s the one!

    3. Vhyrus

      It can’t be racist. It’s a black lab.

      1. DOOMco

        *ovation*

  14. SP

    That “golden retriever” looks nothing like any golden I’ve ever known. It does, however, look suspiciously like a great pyrenees.

    1. Tundra

      GPs are really huge, though. It looks to me like one of those fancy “English Cream” goldens.

      1. SP

        I currently have an adult pyr that’s about that size. The head shape, body proportions, pantaloons, etc just don’t say golden to me. But I suppose the owner would know.

        (Maybe. I knew someone who owned a pyr that they swore was a “white husky” because that’s what they’d been told by a shelter.)

        1. Tundra

          “white husky”

          All that privilege!

          I defer to your great GP mind – they are really beautiful dogs!

      2. SP

        And with some digging around, it appears Tundra is exactly correct! I can’t believe how similar they are to pyrs. Pages full of images that one can’t tell which they are from puppy hood to adulthood.

    2. That’s what I was thinking, too.

      “Probably the least golden golden retriever I’ve ever seen… “

    3. Mad Scientist

      Yeah, I suspect the journalist is using one of these dog identification cards.

      1. Agent Cooper

        Wow. The cops use that one too!

    4. Drake

      As the dog was sniffing and pawing at the end I thought it was just trying to figure out which end to eat first.

      1. SP

        It was trying to get the squeaker out.

    5. Suthenboy

      It’s probably a Newfie. Newfoundland Retrievers are a pain in the ass if you have a swimming pool. They will naturally save anyone who is drowning, and by drowning I mean ‘in the water’.

  15. Gilmore

    “Husband-pods”

    wouldn’t it just be more cost-effective to put a Sports Bar in the mall?

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      No, they have to have special leather seats put in to support those men without spines. They can’t sit on bar stools.

    2. Drake

      I already have a place to wait while my wife is at the mall. It’s called “home”.

  16. Gilmore

    Give inch, take yard
    wash, rinse, repeat

    its like they’re doing everything possible to kill off low-wage employers as fast as possible.

    1. Gadfly

      I like how it’s a union supported measure that applies to non-union workers, and the subtext of the union’s reasoning was that they were doing this to undermine the competition. Regulatory capture FTW!

    2. DenverJ

      …Cabral, 53, who has been employed at McDonald’s for four years…

      I think i found your problem.

    3. Grumbletarian

      So if a worker calls in sick and you have to call someone else to come in to cover their shift, not only are you paying the sick worker PTO, and the replacement worker for their shift, you also pay a fine to the government.

      Nope, can’t see a downside.

    4. Stillhunter

      I have an idea. Get a new fucking job!

  17. Rufus the Monocled

    Are you ready to cry?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8VJh0UJtg

    Thanks to that Retriever story I’m all over such stories.

    1. AlmightyJB

      I’ve seen that. Some of the best people are dogs.

      1. Mad Scientist

        The best people aspire to be dogs.

        1. SP

          ^A MILLION TIMES THIS^

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          Yeh. That’s just straight up weird, man.

          1. Vhyrus

            If that video taught me anything, it’s that furries and firearms have a much wider overlap than you could possibly imagine.

    2. Tundra

      Dogs are awesome.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        One more mutt story. My wife wasn’t a fan of the mutt. She would keep him outside in the backyard most of the time but when he heard me coming home he would be dancing around on the deck waiting for me to let him in.

        For some reason or the other, I was in trouble with the wife and when I let the mutt in, he leaped in and we had a few great moments of scratching and dancing. She sniffed that I loved the dog more than me. I replied, “you know if you shook your ass and shoved your face into my crotch every time I came home, maybe I’d love you just as much.”

        It did not help, that I thought that was very clever and cackled for an hour. Or that I called all my buddies and repeated that little bon mot to them (and then we’d both cackle).

        1. Stillhunter

          So much this. Billy Currington. “Like my dog” I’m not good at links…

    3. *sniffs a little* Gosh, dog hair in my eyes. Pay no attention

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Must be a strong breeze from MT to MN. My allergies are acting up too.

        One of my favorite pictures is my son curled up with my old mutt when he they were both puppies. The mutt was only a few days in our house and he and the boy were already crawling behind the couch when they were tired to take a nap. Partners in crime.

        The best part of the mutt was that he was a hunting machine and when he got older there were times he would look at me and you could tell he was “WTF? Why the fuck am I under these knuckleheads in the pack pecking order?”

        Man I miss him. I think the dog hair is thicker now than when I started this reply.

    4. Am I missing something? Looks to me like the dog needs to learn how to respect that kids personal space. Little dude keeps pushing the dog away and dog keeps getting all up in dudes business.

      1. Tundra

        Am I missing something?

        A soul? 😉

        1. Fair cop, although I wouldn’t say that i actually miss it.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            He wasn’t gonna use it for anything, anyway.

    5. Seguin

      God dammit. These aren’t tears. My contacts are acting up.

    6. Agent Cooper

      Jim Stenson? Wow. That Down Syndrome muppet looks amazingly real!

      *immediately goes to hell*

  18. Rufus the Monocled

    Know where you can get a Labrador Retriever?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmx2bQDO1Vk

    OK. I’m done.

    Back to staring at the kids.

  19. commodious spittoon

    My brain feels like it’s made of eels.

    1. Tundra

      You need a hovercraft.

    2. Mad Scientist

      Mine is just citrus peals.

    3. Trigger Hippie

      Do they slither wildly as they slip away across the universe?

  20. Gilmore

    WE DEMAND OUR RIGHT TO OUR OWN BULLSHIT “STUDIES” DEPARTMENT
    /Mexicans

    at what point does the absurdity of identity politics fully-consume-itself? It feels like its getting close, like stomach acid is already starting to dissolve the edges of it. the WaPo story which called marxist feminist geography professors “Scientists” was a pretty good example of ‘when its gone too-far becomes obvious’.

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Mexican American Studies at Tucson Unified School District. Do they want to study themselves?

    2. commodious spittoon

      As soon as the no-strings-attached financing model implodes and people are having to rationalize spending their own money on this horseshit.

    3. John Titor

      Higher education bubble needs to burst a little more (and it is now, just very slowly) before they’re really forced to respond.

    4. Hyperion

      Wait, has no one told the Mexicans yet that they’re only here to go with pot and ass sex?

    5. Count Potato

      If people want to spend their own money to study that crap in college, that’s one thing. But it doesn’t belong in public High Schools funded by tax payers.

    1. Hyperion

      WTF?

      1. Trigger Hippie

        My former sinus rinse technique involved powder….

        1. Agent Cooper

          Are you Stevie Nicks?

    1. Hyperion

      Hilarious.

      1. DOOMco

        I want to know if it was added by someone else or if they did the whole thing.

        1. My trained eye say it was added, two different styles of painting and the frogs outline is over hill’s lips (sorry for that visual).

    2. commodious spittoon

      That would certainly turn a frog gay.

    3. Vhyrus

      I may make that my new avatar.

  21. Raston Bot

    i read She Persisted to my 4-year old daughter for the first time. it’s a painful read. too dry. no adventure. no suspense. no protagonist, no antagonist. it just was not a story. it’s like reading an encyclopedia to your kid.

    1. John Titor

      Agitprop tends to be that way.

        1. John Titor

          When you write propaganda about a war, it has a higher likelihood of it being interesting.

          When you write propaganda because Elizabeth Warren was being a loudmouthed ass and was told to be quiet by someone who’s job it is to do exactly that…

    2. Gilmore

      i read She Persisted to my 4-year old daughter for the first time.

      “She immediately confessed to complicity in the WTC bombing and gave up the rest of Al Qaeda’s global jihidi network.”

      1. commodious spittoon

        Nice!

    3. Hyperion

      Child abuse.

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      Couldn’t just read Green Eggs and Ham? I suppose Dr. Seuss was a white guy.

      And not even a Doctor.

    5. KSuellington

      Please, no spoilers!!

    1. DOOMco

      I wanted to post this in response

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      I knew a Russian guy in tech school that joined the AF mostly to speed up the citizenship process. He got paid extra since he was fluent in several languages and would up buying a Lancer Evo.

      This was him every Saturday night in Wichita Falls, TX. It would be hilarious except he drank nearly all of us under the table and it didn’t seem to affect his ability to drift.

    1. Akira

      It could also be the fact that women’s pelvic bones are wider set, making it natural to sit with the legs close together. Men’s pelvic bones are more narrow (in a proportional sense) so sitting how women do is something that actually requires a lot of effort. A guy’s legs would be quite fatigued if he sat like a woman for the entire train ride.

      … But I don’t expect any of these “[grievance group] Studies” dipshits to know that.

      1. John Titor

        It’s also that the testicles have an optimal temperature that usually isn’t established by jamming them in between two large heat sources (think of the whole ‘laptops killing sperm count’ thing that popped up awhile back). So really it’s a men’s health issue.

    2. Suthenboy

      Sweaty balls?

  22. Tundra

    Monday afternoon obscure track.

    When this album came out I hated it. 27 years (!!) later, I really dig it.

    1. Worker and Parasite

      I don’t think I’ve heard songs from either, so I constantly confuse the Replacements and the Residents.

  23. Drake

    Breakdown of how Soros pays NGOs to import immigrants into Europe to destroy native societies there.

    1. Drake

      Looks like the Hungarians aren’t too fond of old George either. The Russians were right when they tossed out every NGO he was associated with.

      1. Hyperion

        So what is up with this guy? Is he a monster who helped try to genocide his own people or is he the savior of the free world? Because I cannot find any opinions of him outside of those extremes.

        1. one true athena

          I think James Bond would be taking him out if we lived in a better timeline.

        2. Suthenboy

          After his experiences in his youth I think he adopted the ‘we have to destroy western civilization’ position.

          1. Hyperion

            If he’s trying to get 1 million middle eastern immigrants into Europe a year, he must be trying to do that. What in the hell is wrong with someone like that? Did he really help the Nazis try to genocide the Jews? I see people arguing about that, just not sure what of it is true or not.

          2. Viking1865

            He was a teenager, and from what I understand, he was basically a clerk who inventoried the property of people the Nazis were murdering.

            I don’t expect everyone to join Le Resistance (or however you say it in Hungarian) but you can keep your head down, avoid the bastards, and wait out the war without becoming an active collaborator.

          3. Homple

            Vaguely related. Anybody remember the movie The Fifth Horseman is Fear? Protagonist is a Jewish doctor forbidden by the Nazis to practice medicine and instead works cataloging property confiscated from Jews.

  24. Gilmore

    Democrats Divided On Core Message

    “We’re Not Hitler!!” vs. “MOAR FREER STUFF”?

    Some want to rally behind calls to impeach the Republican president as new evidence indicates possible collusion between Trump’s campaign and the Russian government. Democratic leaders are reluctant to pursue that approach as it only energizes the GOP base. Others want Democrats to focus on the GOP’s plans to strip health insurance from millions of Americans. …

    Several liberal groups that had been laser-focused on health care have intensified calls for impeachment in recent weeks, including MoveOn.org, Indivisible and UltraViolet.

    “We need to be talking about impeachment constantly,” said Scott Dworkin, co-founder of the recently formed Democratic Coalition Against Trump. He warned on Twitter, “If you’re an elected Dem & you’re not talking impeachment or 25th amendment then find a new party.”

    There’s something telling about the fact that “defending Obamacare” is supposed to be a winning posture in 2018, when it was the kiss of death in 2014

    1. Drake

      But they agree that white men all suck, right?

    2. Gilmore

      It’s not that easy for some elected officials, like Rep. Joe Kennedy III, D-Mass., who says concerns about Russia have caught up to health care as a priority among his constituents. He described the Russian developments as “a threat to our foundation of democracy” that demands attention.

      “Congress has to be able to walk and chew gum. We have to be able to do both,” Kennedy said.

      “”We have to be able to screech about BOTH “Russia!!” and “GOP WANNA KILL YOU!!!” at the same time!””- as though this is some sort of extremely difficult feat of skill.

      the quotes from Dem party members outside DC actually make some sort of sense. they’re basically, “this shit is stupid and it won’t last”

      1. Mad Scientist

        our foundation of democracy

        Our what, now?

  25. Drake

    The cop who shot the Aussie lady was the first Somali police officer to patrol the 5th precinct … Sad trombone.

    1. commodious spittoon

      an officer fired their weapon

      *eye twitch*

      1. A firearm discharged, apparently while it was in the hand of an officer…

        1. Hyperion

          It apparently discharged several times. The woman was apparently a gun grabber, so seriously doubt she had a gun at the time. But I bet that she 1. didn’t own a dog and 2. she had a cell phone.

    2. Raven Nation

      I just read about this today. I mean, what the actual fuck?! The guy in the passenger seat shoots her through the driver’s door. It’s like a reverse-Fargo situation.

      1. Suthenboy

        The bullets passed inches from his partner. Incredible.

        1. Rhywun

          I still don’t get it. This definitely needs more details. I mean, I can’t see even a rookie doing that.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      You know with this guy and Jeronimo Yanez (shot Philando Castile) maybe we need a few more white cops?

      1. Hyperion

        When’s the BLM protest?

      2. Hyperion

        Also, what the hell does this mean?

        “I do understand this, they were driving down an alley, the victim approached the car. That’s not necessarily a time you must, but frankly I think it’s a time you should.””

      3. Hyperion

        “We believe the police should be held accountable as any other police shooting.”

        And by that, you must out of necessity mean ‘not be held accountable’.

  26. Brochettaward

    Disney is making a new Wrinkle in Time movie. I don’t think they crowbarred in enough black people.

    1. commodious spittoon

      I don’t remember it being that dark.

    2. Agent Cooper

      I don’t care about the racial makeup, just as long as the story and performances are good.

      It was maybe my favorite book growing up.

  27. Pan Zagloba

    US posts their NAFTA renegotiation objectives.

    18 pages, only skimmed it, but fuck if half isn’t stuff our lefties bitched about ever since I arrived in Canada (and presumably since before it was signed).

  28. Q Continuum

    Time to play, guess the fake quote! (no google cheating)

    1. “I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.”
    2. “Seeing foreigners visiting America being excited over the things they can say and buy reminds me that we must keep the masses ignorant of freedom so they don’t gain knowledge harmful to our cause.”
    3. “It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed.”
    4. “To aid the bad in multiplying is, in effect, the same as maliciously providing for our descendants a multitude of enemies.”
    5 “When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression.”

    1. DOOMco

      3?

    2. Tundra

      5.

    3. Q Continuum

      I will reveal the answer at 4:40!

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      I too, am going to go with 5

    5. Gilmore

      Time to play, guess the fake quote!

      [team of lawyers from “Spot the Not” begins drafting Cease and Desist notices]

      1. This is like when Moses sued David Letterman over those Top 10 lists.

        1. Mad Scientist

          There are other commandments that didn’t make the top 10?

          1. Short answer: Yes.

          2. AlmightyJB

            I heard aMel Brooks factoid on the radio last week regarding a scene he had cut from Vlazing Saddles because he thought the audience of the day might not be ready for it. A romantic scene in the dark between Madeline Kahn’s character and the black sheriff Bart. She ask him if what they say about his people is true. Then you hear her heavy breathing and oooing and ahhing and Bart says umm you’re sucking on my elbow.

          3. Mad Scientist

            That scene is on the DVD in the extras. I can;t find the scene on youtube, but here’s Mel Brooks telling Conan about it, about 2 minutes in.

          4. AlmightyJB

            That’s great:)

          5. F. Stupidity Jr.

            “Thou shalt not block thy brother’s cock” really should have stayed in.

      2. Hyperion

        Yeah, you have to be careful around here. Just the other day I said ‘Bwhahahhaaahhaaa’ and I was nearly kneecapped by the Penguin Mafia before they realized I used a ‘B’, not a ‘M’.

      3. Agent Cooper

        It’s not Spot the Not

        it’s Make the Fake™!

    6. Q Continuum

      The answer is… number 2!

      1. Andrea Dworkin
      3. V.I. Lenin
      4. Herbert Spencer
      5. Sheila Jeffreys

      1. “The answer is… number 2!”

        Is everyone just going to let that one sail over the plate?

        1. Agent Cooper

          Shit.

          (I was going to guess 2 and didn’t comment.)

    7. Homple

      Substitute “telephone handset” for “high heel” and you have a scene from Midnight Cowboy.

  29. The true meaning of marriage: Forcing people to serve you at gunpoint (adding new meaning to the term “shotgun wedding”)

    “Florist appeals case to Supreme Court hoping to win the right to discriminate…

    “…[This case and the gay-cake case] were among the first to lodge a challenge to marriage equality on the basis of “religious freedom,” setting up a legal battle that will help determine whether conservatives will successfully hollow out marriage equality until it is little more than the ceremonial granting of a useless piece of paper.”

    1. DOOMco

      marriage equality until it is little more than the ceremonial granting of a useless piece of paper
      um, yeah, that’t the goal. at least from a government standpoint.

    2. Bobarian LMD

      That “useless piece of paper” should be the governments only interest in marriage.

      Gay ‘marriage’ is not the same as gay ‘weddding’. One is a semi-religious ceremony, the other is a legal partnership, where one partner is put into servitude to the other.

      1. “where one partner is put into servitude to the other”

        Eroticizing their own oppression?

    1. AlmightyJB

      I think it’s a fair criticism. Are you hear to talk about atheism or about identity politics? Cause if it’s the former, I don’t care about the latter and if it’s the latter then how is this an atheism conference?

  30. Vhyrus

    Fuck Battlebots, I want to watch this on TV!

    1. DOOMco

      nice.

    2. Hyperion

      I didn’t know that Asian construction sites are like the parking lots of their supermarkets.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      I don’t want to watch this on TV. I want to participate.

    1. Another science denier, I see.

    2. DOOMco

      That’s an award winning song?

        1. Q Continuum

          Please tell me that’s parody.

          1. Ed Wuncler

            It is not at all.

            I went to an inner city high school and most of my teachers especially the white ones lowered the standards because they felt bad (they thought we weren’t capable of doing the work) but I had teacher who basically had the attitude of, “Fuck that shit, I’m holding you to high standards and if you flunk, so be it.” We hated her, but almost 15 years since I graduated high school, she’s the only teacher I still visit.

            These poor kids from the debate competition will enter the adult world and realize that no one cares whether they are black or where they come from. What people will care about is whether you can do the work or not. Giving them this award harms them in the long run but also pisses the other kids who worked their asses off.

          2. Q Continuum

            “What people will care about is whether you can do the work or not.”

            I sincerely hope so. I would hate to think that the next time I step on a 747, the pilot qualified because his instructor felt sorry for him and used lower standards.

        2. AlmightyJB

          The guys got robbed. How the hell can you you pull off the fried chicken argument like that and not win the debate. The girls never even brought up fried chicken at all. They just said nigga a lot which isn’t even an argument unless your the girl at the bar I was at the other week who was arguing about the NBA draft and who according to her was a real nigga which she brought up 27 times.

    3. Vhyrus

      THAT GOT A FUCKINNG EMMY NOMINATION?!

      *slits wrists*

      1. Oh, a nomination. Well, how many candidates get nominated each year?

        1. Vhyrus

          You miss the point. A group of people thought that there is a possibility that particular song might be the best thing on TV in the last year. Think about that for a minute.

          1. I’d have to listen to the competition first.

            And all modern music seems the same to me. Now get off my lawn.

          2. DOOMco

            It should be Earth Radio- Human Music.

          3. Hyperion

            No one thinks that. It’s just a bunch of tards in the entertainment industry trying to out prog one another.

          4. Vhyrus

            But… that song was genuinely awful. Like holy shit I would stab my ears with knitting needles before listening to it again.

      2. Agent Cooper

        Who gives a shit about Emmys?

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      My wife thought I was being unreasonable when I told her that I would not be showing my kids his show. Then I showed her this video. Fuck that guy.

  31. Q Continuum
    1. By ignoring the possibility that aging Baby Boomers would be more likely to tell pollsters they’re swingers?

    2. AlmightyJB

      Well by the time the millennials get married they’ve already slept with their entire circle of friends, coworkers, and casual acquaintances multiple times so they basically got it all out of their system.

      1. Vhyrus

        NTTAWWT, right? RIGHT?!

        1. Q Continuum

          You are a sinner and you are going to hell.

        2. AlmightyJB

          Not at all:)

  32. KibbledKristen

    So D.A.R.E. had a solicitation booth outside the grocery store the other day. When the guy asked if I were familiar with it, all I could do is laugh heartily and say “Ahhh…yeah”. Then, apparently not groking my tone of voice, he asked if I would like to make a monthly recurring donation.

    El. Oh. El.

    Fuckin’ D.A.R.E., man.

    1. Brochettaward

      The DARE program in my elementary school had a creepy clown named Mr. No who would show up with some cops. He smelled.

      1. Vhyrus

        That was just the local crackhead doing his community service for the month.

        1. Hyperion

          Or Jeff Sessions.

    2. DOOMco

      Most people must not laugh at them

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      I hope you don’t do the same thing to Girl Scouts.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Girl Scouts have the good drugs cookies

        1. AlmightyJB

          I’m not going to say it.

    4. Ed Wuncler

      I had to do D.A.R.E in fifth grade and sadly bought into all of that shit. Fast forward a decade or so, I was helping my parents clean out their garage and found my D.A.R.E. certificate and pledge that I would never drink or do drugs. I looked at it, chuckled, and threw that shit away

      1. F. Stupidity Jr.

        I wish I had been involved in DARE back then; it would be pretty sweet to do some lines off that certificate.

      2. Hyperion

        You’re supposed to use that to snort some coke off a hookers arse.

        1. Ed Wuncler

          Why can’t you do both?

      3. SP

        You really need to visit Chez OMWC/SP one of these days.

    5. KibbledKristen

      Just Tweetered this link to the grocery store

    6. “Today’s D. A. R. E. is ten times more powerful than the D. A. R. E. you used as a kid!”

      1. Hyperion

        Does it totally freak out Maureen Dowd?

        1. What does a progressive say when he runs out of marijuana?

          “The New York Times really sucks!”

          (adapted from a joke about the band Phish)

        2. F. Stupidity Jr.

          David Brooks is too good for that shit. Aspire to be better, you guys!

          1. Hyperion

            “We were in the stage, which I guess all of us are still in, of trying to become more integrated, coherent and responsible people. This process usually involves using the powers of reason, temperance and self-control — not qualities one associates with being high.”

            Not qualities one associates with the left either.

          2. F. Stupidity Jr.

            I guess it takes no self-control to drop acid three times a year, or smoke a joint maybe four times a year. Those are my rates of usage. No, I guess I’m powerless, caught in the iron grip of addiction.

          3. “But, of course, these are the core questions: Laws profoundly mold culture, so what sort of community do we want our laws to nurture? What sort of individuals and behaviors do our governments want to encourage? I’d say that in healthy societies government wants to subtly tip the scale to favor temperate, prudent, self-governing citizenship. In those societies, government subtly encourages the highest pleasures, like enjoying the arts or being in nature, and discourages lesser pleasures, like being stoned.

            “In legalizing weed, citizens of Colorado are, indeed, enhancing individual freedom. But they are also nurturing a moral ecology in which it is a bit harder to be the sort of person most of us want to be.”

          4. Mad Scientist

            “subtly.” Good one, Brooks!

          5. John Titor

            Remember kids, if you don’t do drugs you might end up a lying New York Times writer with your head completely up your ass.

    1. Q Continuum

      Rhetorical question to make sure you guys RTFA.

      1. Gilmore

        i think it was posted earlier here or in the AM links

      2. Hyperion

        I read all of it. Moral of the story? Drug laws are for peasants.

    2. Gilmore

      I was more interested in what Sarah Warren’s “hourly fees” were

    3. “He also is a central witness in a $185-million lawsuit in which the University of California has accused USC of misconduct in its hiring away of a star researcher.”

      Interesting…not sure what’s going on here…

    4. KibbledKristen

      That’s the life!

      1. Gilmore

        somehow you can be a complete alcoholic who routinely falls down on their face, and its something that makes your friends say ‘maybe you should get some therapy’.

        but if you smoke meth and still manage to hold down a successful job, its a shock deserving national exposure.

        basically, there’s no real ‘crime’ here, but its a scandal that a smart, successful man likes to get high and party with hot women.

        1. Hyperion

          Nothing’s going to happen to this guy. Laws are for peasants. All drugs are perfectly legal if you have enough money. Hell, if you’re a US Senator, you can probably drink gin and tonics and snort line after line of coke and meth during a Senate session, live on C-SPAN, and nothing will happen to you. Except you would be drunk and high on TV.

          1. Gilmore

            yeah, i get that. you simply apologize and spend a month in fake-rehab until the news blows over.

    5. Hyperion

      “Puliafito resigned his $1.1-million-a-year post in March 2016”

      1. Q Continuum

        You win one internet.

  33. KibbledKristen

    Dafuq? College Park, in the People’s Republic of MD, is considering letting non-citizens vote in local elections. What would be great is if this goes through, most of the immigrants who vote, vote Republican.

    1. Ed Wuncler

      I believe that Chicago does the very same thing. With seven colleges and universities in the city, it creates a huge advantage for the local Democrats.

      1. “seven colleges and universities in” Chicago

        Much more than seven of these.

        1. Vhyrus

          There really is a wiki page on everything isn’t there.

      2. KibbledKristen

        I’d think College Park is a pretty reliable D stronghold (as is Shitcago). This just seems like foolhardy virtue signaling. And it’s gonna cost ’em when they get sued.

        1. Hyperion

          You can stop thinking about it, I can 100% assure you of that.

      3. Hyperion

        It can’t possibly make a difference, there’s no Republican going to win in that area anyway, not even close.

    2. Q Continuum

      “Most of the immigrants vote Republican”

      Is that true? Seriously asking.

      1. KibbledKristen

        No – I think most immigrants are overwhelmingly D. But I think it would be schadenfreude-tastic if College Park did this thing, then suddenly found themselves surrounded by Republicans on the city council.

        1. Q Continuum

          OK, that’s what I thought. Every once in a while some Cobalt Blue jurisdiction tries this and I always wonder how they think it’ll pass legal muster.

      2. Hyperion

        What I’ve seen with immigrants, I believe it depends on who their American friends and co-workers are. I’ve had several immigrants actually ask me who they should vote for. I just tell them to never vote for Democrats.

    3. Hyperion

      College Park is too close to DC. It may as well be in DC.

      1. Vhyrus

        Maryland in general is pretty much the most liberal thing I have experienced in America. California and New York have at least some rural areas, but MD is as blue as a smurf’s frozen dick all the way through. There are some rural parts on the eastern shore but it’s barely a blip.

        1. Hyperion

          This isn’t true. If you’re along the bay, Baltimore down to Annapolis and the area north of DC, then it’s deep blue. Outside of that, it’s all red. The problem is that nearly all of the population is in Baltimore and around DC. All of Western MD is deep red and so is the rural South. There was even a movement a while back to create West Maryland and secede from Baltimore and Annapolis. So the majority of MD is not blue, but the blue part has all of the votes. Pretty much like NY. Talk to people in rural MD, they hate progs.

          1. Vhyrus

            I was born in Baltimore and lived in a suburb for most of my childhood. Luckily my parents realized what liberal shithole MD was and got out. My cousins weren’t so lucky. The guy seems relatively well adjusted but my female cousin went full progtard. I could never live there again.

          2. Hyperion

            We somehow got a R governor. I think it was because his wife is Korean and all the Koreans in Howard county voted for him. I don’t think the guys ever done anything a Republican would normally do though, probably because the entire legislature is Democrat. He’s sort of like the token Republican I guess.

          3. Vhyrus

            That’s why I say MD is all blue. Your republicans are somewhere to the left of Chris Christie.

          4. The Zenome Project

            Looked it up. Dems have a super-majority in the State Senate, so they just override his vetos the entire time. They’re going to try to break it next year, but that could be difficult.

          5. The Zenome Project

            Found another fact: apparently Maryland is so neon blue that the Senate has had this supermajority for nearly 100 years. Just having 1 more Republican required to break the supermajority will make MD the most red it’s ever been.

          6. kbolino

            Your republicans are somewhere to the left of Chris Christie.

            Actually, Hogan’s pretty decent as far as Republicans go. But as The Zenome Project pointed out, the Dems have an indelible supermajority. Also, the population is happy to constitutionally amend themselves into single-party rule. It’s basically the major population centers ruling the rest of the state. But to add to Hyperion’s point, even within the 95 corridor there are pockets of red. They’re just drowned/gerrymandered (which is totally cool guys because Democrats aren’t racist, seriously that is what the courts are saying) out of proportional representation.

          7. Hyperion

            “Found another fact: apparently Maryland is so neon blue ”

            It is by voter number, like I said. But the west is solidly red. You can actually observe this if you drive around the city during an election and then drive out of the city. As soon as you cross the line into Howard county or northwest into Carroll county and west and north from there all they way to PA and WV, you won’t see anything but GOP signs in yards, where as in the city, you only see Democrat signs. By land area, MD is red. Of course, that doesn’t count. Carroll county from what I have heard, has pretty much driven every Democrat politician out of town. Progs have been trying to infect Frederick for a while now, but it’s still red.

          8. The Zenome Project

            It’s kind of hilarious that there were still enough kulaks in MD to secretly elect an R governor in an off-year. Apparently he’s popular even with the Dems, and he’s likely going to be reelected. They’re Also going to try to break the Dem supermajority for the first time in a decade or so next year. Good luck to that.

          9. Vhyrus

            I doubt it. Being next to DC means there are just too many leeches sucking on the teat of big gov. Voting red means there might be a ghost of a chance that some of that fat tax money may not reach them.

          10. The Zenome Project

            Looked up his victory map. It seems like he won by dominating the rural vote and the Baltimore suburban vote, which made up for the deep blue DC suburbs and urban Baltimore.

          11. kbolino

            Hogan won by getting Howard and Baltimore counties, two places that “lean blue” but are also full of money (mostly government and contractor money, but still). Nobody expected that (ring any bells?). Unfortunately, while I think there are some similarities between Trump’s win and Hogan’s win, the former is going to cost the latter in 2018. Maryland doesn’t keep Republican governors for long, and the state Democratic Party is going to do everything they can to tie Hogan to Trump. In a state that went 60% for Clinton, that’s likely to be an effective strategy.

          12. Hyperion

            Howard County is very wealthy. Also, the Koreans there and I know more than a few of them, hate Democrats as much as we do. And like I said, the Gov’s wife is Korean, so that helped as well. There is a very large pop of Koreans in Howard County.

          13. Hyperion

            If by Kulaks, you mean Koreans, then yeah.

    1. Q Continuum

      Theocracy, in general, is pretty bad for development, liberty and prosperity. Islam especially so.

      1. Zunalter

        I would argue that all forms of government are a theocracy in some form or another. Since, at least in representative governments, the voters generally vote for candidates that (outwardly, at least) reflect their values and beliefs.

    2. Fatty Bolger

      I wonder if 40 years from now, a video of Turkey today will be as poignant.

      1. Hyperion

        I think Turkey is pretty much done.

        1. Fatty Bolger

          Yeah.

          Maybe I should be wondering about a video of England in 40 years.

          1. Hyperion

            I don’t know if any of Europe is going to last 40 years, not as what it was, sort of is still. The tourism industry is going to completely die off and the influx of 3rd world immigrants is going to kill their democratic socialism experiment. I just don’t see any way this turns out good.

          2. Lackadaisical

            Me and my wife decided to go to Austria last year, before it got too bad. By all accounts we’ll have plenty of time to visit Poland though.

          3. DEG

            At least for now, some parts of Europe aren’t all that bad. Prague is nice, though watch out for pickpockets. I was in Munich for Oktoberfest last year and I didn’t see all that much of a difference from when I was in Munich ten years ago.

    3. DEG

      One of the years I was in the dorms during my undergrad years, there were Iranians in the room next door. They told me that their parents hated the Shah because he was a foreign puppet. They’d protest the Shah during the day, then head to the discos and bars at night. Then the Shah got deposed and the Ayatollahs took over. Oops.

  34. Ed Wuncler

    I was looking at the FB profile of this girl (she befriended me) who I went to college with at DePaul during the mid 2000’s and we both hung out with each other a lot but it never went anywhere. Needless to say I was fairly heartbroken when she told me that I wasn’t boyfriend material. But looking at her FB page, I fucking dodged a bullet.

    She is a perfect caricature of a third wave feminist and we would have probably killed each other if we did date. I’m happy that she’s doing her dream job (college librarian) but holy shit-balls, she is not a rational person when it comes to politics, which is sad because she’s not a moron.

    1. Q Continuum

      Girlfriend from early college: really smart, fun, great ass, amazing sex. She later dumped me and I was broken up over it for quite a while.

      Fast forward 10 years, she has a PhD in Feminist Literature and a website devoted to “Intersectional Social Justice”. G-d was doing me a favor when she dropped my ass.

      1. Akira

        When I got dumped by my first serious girlfriend in 2006, I was pretty broken up about it. But today: she’s gained about 75 pounds, and she’s also a fervent Bernie Sanders supporter, and people tell me that her main motivation seems to be the possibility of getting her student loan debt erased. She’s also openly racist against all non-whites with the exception of Asians (which is why she had no problem slobbin’ on my knob).

        1. Ed Wuncler

          She’s one of those Progressives who grew up in the North Shore area (an affluent area of suburbs north of Chicago) but yet thinks that she understands the “people” and always cries about privilege and mansplaining. The worst sorts of Progressives are the rich ones.

          I’m married and all that stuff so there’s no way an intimate relationship would ever happen, but she was still cool to hang with because she was a huge history buff like myself. But looking at her page, there’s no way she could ever find herself having a conversation with a libertarian if we were to ever just hang out on friendly terms. The tragedy of her and others like her is that they can’t fathom someone who believes differently from them as not being evil and stupid.

          1. Hyperion

            Bewildering that anyone with a lot of history knowledge could be a leftist.

          2. Ed Wuncler

            The history department at DePaul were filled with Leftists who eschewed any independent thought outside of their Marxist views.

            Why do you think the Left worked so hard to capture the universities?

          3. Hyperion

            Oh, I know. It’s just bewildering how they turn a blind eye to Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Castro murdering more than 100 million people. Yeah, I know, that wasn’t real socialism, but they had the right ideas and good intentions.

    2. westernsloper

      I have an ex girlfriend who makes me relate to that. We have always been friends even after our breakup and I always had a flame in my heart for her until the last election. She showed her true colors with some serious TDS. The last discussion we had right before the election she explained to me how she did not like the Democrats so much, but they were the only thing stopping the R’s from turning the United States into Hand Maids Tail and putting everyone in camps. Got a bit weird for me. Smart women are sometimes nuts.

      1. Vhyrus

        I wouldn’t mind some hand maids tail. HEYOOOO!

        1. Ed Wuncler

          Anyone who believed that Trump’s election was a harbinger to the Handmaiden’s Tale is an indicator that they are dumb.

    3. Gilmore

      her dream job (college librarian)

      lol

      *(cues up favorite version of ‘Dreams‘)

      1. Ed Wuncler

        Oddly enough, my wife is a Children’s Librarian in the Northwest Suburbs. She’s pretty liberal but hates teacher’s unions and think that the third wave feminists are morons.

        1. Lackadaisical

          I first read that as “Oddly enough, my wife is a Children’s Library in the Northwest Suburbs” and thought ‘that is odd’.

        2. Gilmore

          I have nothing against librarians and have the utmost respect for the occupation.

          its just that when i think “dream jobs”, i think = bullfighter, astronaut, rock star, editor of hustler magazine, official bourbon-taster, etc.

          1. Ed Wuncler

            My dream job was to be an architect until I found out that you had to do some heavy math.

          2. Rhywun

            So was mine until I found out they expected you to have some sort of artistic talent.

          3. Agent Cooper

            Is your real name Costanza?

          4. westernsloper

            I saw an ad on Indeed.com for a guitar playing astronaut who likes Hustler magazine and has a discerning bourbon taste just last week.

          5. Gilmore

            I need an assistant, obviously.

    4. Lackadaisical

      My Ex is probably fabulously wealthy and happy.

      Also, shockingly looks exactly the same as the last time I saw her ~7 years ago. I always felt women take breakups better than men.

    5. Old Man With Candy

      Wife 1 was a foaming-at-the-mouth leftist feminist. But I was hormone addled and thought, “Meh, I can work on that.” She knew it was over when I bought a copy of Barry Goldwater’s autobiography, she read it, and was horrified to find how much of it made sense to her. The only way to expunge that thought was to divorce me.

      1. SP

        Oh, I’m sure there were many other reasons to divorce you.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          Are you kidding? I’m a fucking (((saint))).

          1. Tundra

            I really need to study my world religions…

      2. Ed Wuncler

        All my significant others have always been liberals. Conservative and libertarian women are in low supply especially in the People’s Republic of Cook County and the Conservative women I knew in my Republican club at DePaul where fairly uptight and rarely dated outside of their race.

        1. Brochettaward

          It’s your duty as a libertarian man to convert leftwing women one at a time. With your penis.

          1. Ed Wuncler

            Ever since we started seeing each other she has a hatred for teacher unions and believe that charity is voluntary and not by government force.

            Gun control on the other hand, she still believes that it will stop the shootings.

          2. SP

            Well, she’s invited over too.

          3. Ed Wuncler

            We would love to come up North and hang with you guys. I work in P.E. so my life has been work, work, and work, so it would be awesome if I could just sit around some like minded folks and drink beer and shoot the shit.

          4. Old Man With Candy

            Is the email addy you used to sign up here a good one?

          5. Ed Wuncler

            Yeah, the email I have for this site is good.

    6. DEG

      I stumbled on the profile on a dating site of a woman I once knew. I had thought about asking her out but never did. After reading her profile I realized I made the correct decision.

    7. Suthenboy

      “Needless to say I was fairly heartbroken when she told me that I wasn’t boyfriend material. But looking at her FB page, I fucking dodged a bullet.”

      Dude, if I had a dollar for every one of them I could say that about…

    1. Q Continuum
    2. AlmightyJB

      The whole Santa Muerte thing is nothing to the Cartel. They also have a cult following of this guy which was referenced in the movie End if Watch. There’s like a whole clothing line with his pic on it.

      http://observers.france24.com/en/20110505-mexicans-celebrate-san-malverde-patron-saint-thieves-drug-dealers

      1. AlmightyJB

        Nothing ‘new’. I meant to say.

  35. FreeSociety

    This gibberish makes absolutely no sense to me. Do you mean to tell me that Illinois, blue anchor of the plains, doesn’t have some sort of mandatory sentencing for gun crimes?

    When discussing Chicago’s soaring shooting and murder rates, the focus too often drifts to “disproportionate policing” and disparate rates of citizen/police contact based on race.

    Talk to me about “disproportionate policing” after you’ve factored in “disproportionate criminality” and then maybe I’ll give a fuck.

    1. AlmightyJB

      I have to wonder if the revolving jailhouse door of convicted shooters isn’t part of a larger goal of getting people so fed up with gun violence they can push a total gun ban. These gang member want some prison time to increase their street cred. Being an ex-con is like a badge of honor that gets them respect from the younger gang members. Cause you know, they’re idiots.

      1. Vhyrus

        It’s more to do with how connected the local pols are to organized crime. They can’t lock up too many of them because they would then get targeted themselves.

    1. Vhyrus

      You guys with your fancy damn beers. If I get a 6 of stella I feel like I just bought a bottle of Dom.

    2. AlmightyJB

      I had this last night on draft which was a nice refreshing summer beer.

      http://yellowspringsbrewery.com/beers/captain-stardust/

      1. AlmightyJB

        Also had the Honey Wheat Lager from these guys which was also very refreshing. Both were very good. Probably give the edge to this flavor wise.

        http://www.northhighbrewing.com/our-beer/

        1. DEG

          I see some good beers in both your links. Looks like Ohio only distribution unfortunately.

          1. AlmightyJB

            Probably, they’re both pretty small and haven’t been around a real long time. North High probably has a decent shot at some growth.

          2. AlmightyJB

            Yellow Springs is a very small town. Dave Chappelle lives there.

          3. DEG

            I have a friend outside Cincinnati. I’ll keep these in mind if I’m out there again visiting him. Thanks!

          4. Not an Economist

            I’ll have to ask some of my friends if they have heard about them.

    3. Raven Nation

      Working on first gin & tonic for the night.

    4. Lackadaisical

      Random red wine, leftover from a party— go!

      1. SP

        I know all those words, but this sentence makes no sense at all. What in the world is leftover wine?

        1. Lackadaisical

          😀

          I think I got prematurely boring. My parents will party harder than me these days.

        2. I can’t drink a whole bottle in one go. Half a bottle, maybe.

          1. Lackadaisical

            I used to get boxed wines so I wouldn’t run out too fast (plus I was cheap).

            Now I’ve got a ton of liquor in my cabinet that no one is drinking.

          2. SP

            And where are you again? Just askin’.

          3. DEG

            Same here. I’ll put a stopper in the bottle and save it.

  36. Lackadaisical

    I tried watching Game of Thrones: Libertarian Edition at work today. I busted out laughing at 4:37 and couldn’t stop.

  37. Pan Zagloba

    Didn’t see this on CBC, but Beeb has it covered

    Canada police issue warrant for imam for ‘anti-Semitic hate speech’

    Mr Al Nasr is charged with the wilful promotion of hatred under Canada’s anti-hate crime laws.

    During his sermon in Arabic at the Dar al-Arkam Mosque in Montreal last December, Mr Al Nasr reportedly said Jews were the “worst of mankind” and that Muslims should slaughter them on Judgement Day.

    The sermon is still posted to the mosque’s YouTube channel, and B’nai Brith says the mosque has not apologised for Mr Al Nasr’s statements.

    I’m shocked that speech laws are being deployed against a Muslim, but not that it took months for the charges to come up, nor that “Mr Al Nasr’s whereabouts are unknown”.

    1. Ed Wuncler

      They can actually arrest someone for saying the “wrong” thing in Canada?

      Fuck.

      1. Tundra

        Coming soon to a constitutional republic near you.

        1. Ed Wuncler

          I remember reading from one of you guys that without the Second Amendment, we wouldn’t have the First Amendment.

          1. Vhyrus

            ‘The second protects the first’ is a common saying among gun guys, as well as ‘the second protects the rest’.

          2. Ed Wuncler

            Sort of off topic, but it’s hilarious to hear the Left curse the Constitution when Obama was in power because it restrained him (somewhat) but now since the Donald occupies the White House, the Left are in love with the Founding Fathers and the Constitution once again.

          3. Vhyrus

            Yeah, when Barry was king, damn that obstructionist congress! Once Trump gets elected elected that tune changes right quick and in a hurry.

          4. Hyperion

            This is a common theme with them. They still hate the Constitution. It’s in the way of their great utopian state.

          5. AlmightyJB

            The end always justifies the means in their religion.

      2. Vhyrus

        Same with England. Say some unkind things on facebook about muslims and see how long it takes to get a knock on your door.

          1. Vhyrus

            He would have been safer just blowing up a bunch of teenagers.

          2. Hyperion

            “detectives investigating extreme rightwing”

            I always see those words, ‘extreme rightwing’, in European publications. I can’t ever, even once, remember reading the words ‘extreme leftwing’. Why don’t they just drop rightwing, since apparently, all extremists are rightwing.

        1. DOOMco

          huh.

      3. Pan Zagloba

        Most of the world, far as I know…

  38. LT_Fish

    No Libertarian Women indeed!

    Tell me this gal posts on Glibs.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Where’s the libertarianism? All I see is a bunch of Culture Justice Warrior crap.

      1. LT_Fish

        You need to listen to some of her longer rants. She’s pretty solid – including police issues, etc.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          I’ll take your word for it. When it comes to Youtube rants, 5 to 7 minutes is my maximum.

      2. ruodberht

        Is this the new lame gotcha? 2/10

        1. LT_Fish

          I don’t know. The Social Science vid she just posted, she calls herself a libertarian (as in…party member?). Yeah, they’re a little longer than some rant vids, but she goes into a lot of detail and isn’t hard on the ears unlike some folks.

    2. Brochettaward

      That’s a cocktail in her hand. Hm…

  39. Vhyrus

    I still have an hour left but I managed to do almost no real work today. I feel proud.

    1. quincy

      You’re the guy who’s supposed to get us off world?

      1. Vhyrus

        You don’t want a ride in one of my rockets. I sure don’t.

        1. quincy

          *ALERTS TRAVEL AGENT*

  40. AlmightyJB

    Just had a small snack of some Fromager D’Affinois with Garlic & Herbs on some sesame crackers. Yummy.

  41. Vhyrus

    Here’s your libertarian moment of the day:

    Armed weed dealer shoots and kills home invader.

    If he turns out to be a gay Mexican we may have to switch mascots.

  42. Q Continuum

    Obviously not all Millennials etc. etc. YMMV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXWNChoIluo

    1. DEG

      “Through no fault of their own. They were dealt a bad hand.”

      Fuck ’em. Fire ’em if they don’t get their shit done.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      I like Simon Sinek.

    3. Vhyrus

      I agree with some of it but I really don’t like the “zomg its all teh internets fault!” If you can’t learn to moderate your vices then you won’t be a productive member of society. I don’t expect anyone to work the whole day without goofing off or love their job but if you have expectations you need to fucking fulfill them or gtfo.

      1. DEG

        He started out OK, but the more I listen the more I am unimpressed. “It’s the corporations!” Fuck.

        1. Gilmore

          He didn’t get to the “its the corporations” thing until about the 10:40 mark (out of 12mins)

          but i agree. He was making an interesting case. but i think its worth realizing = How does a guy like this make money? By selling his motivational-speaking + self-help books to CORPORATIONS.

          People like him are constantly looking for corporate consulting /marketing strategy gigs. And that’s how you ‘sell’. You tell the ‘corporations’ that “You just don’t *get it*” I GET IT.

          meanwhile “THIS GUY GETS IT”, says the Nike/Apple/Microsoft/Citibank Human Resources Middle Manager. checks for $10,000 per-speaking engagement float down from sky.

          I used to work conferences and do management consulting. I know that every speech has to have an implicit sales-pitch in it. that part @ 10mins is where he makes it.

          1. DEG

            I understand.

            I’m a little old school. My attitude towards stereotypical millenials is, “We hired you to do a job. Do it. Stuff the whining and complaining. Your self-esteem, your self-fulfillment, all that bullshit is your problem not ours. If you don’t want to do the job, get out.”

    4. AlmightyJB

      Only watched half because it was annoying the wife. They’ll just need to learn to drink like the rest of us.

  43. Raven Nation

    NZ cop stalks man, gets paid leave for 2.5 years until being sentenced to community service & a fine:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11892103

    1. AlmightyJB

      What a racket

    2. What do you have to do to go to prison in New Zealand?

      [Sentence ending with the word “sheep”]

      1. AlmightyJB

        Not compensate the Shepard for the use of his sheep.

  44. Brochettaward

    Through his typical (and perhaps strategic?) hyperbole, Trump gets the NYT’s to admit that his legislative record thus far has been pretty…average. The irony is probably lost on them and most of their readers as they gulp down stories from Dowd and the likes hyperventilating how dark things have become in DC.

    1. Vhyrus

      Trump throws these big fat lures out there and mainstream morons just set that fucking hook every day like clockwork don’t they.

    2. Vhyrus

      Maybe they should take some advice from their second favorite president.

  45. Brochettaward

    Bernstein declares cover-up in story that broke because Trump administration disclosed it to the federal government. He liberally throws around the word “lying” to describe the Trump administration on the subject of Russia when far simpler explanations make far more sense.

    1. “far simpler explanations”

      Lizard people?

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Mind your Ps and Qs son, the man broke Watergate.

      1. He Felt he had to.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        And cheated on his pregnant wife. If anyone knows about being a scummy liar, it’s Bernstein.

      3. Sure, he broke Watergate. A leftist reporter in a left-leaning publication pursued malfeasance associated with a Republican administration. I’m impressed by his effort, not by his moral character. It’s not exactly Dan Rather uncovering some terrible, dark secret about the Clintons and shouting it from the rooftops, is it?

      4. Gilmore

        broke Water

        and gave birth to the myth of “journalism holding power accountable”

        **from the podcast @Reason not so long ago, the ‘media historian’ pointed out that the meat of the Watergate scandal was 90% about the discovery of Nixons tapes.

        The WaPo dudes did nothing but fill in a sidebar to the real story.

      5. SimonD

        I always saw Bernstein as journalism’s answer to Hillary. He found a more talented, smarter partner (Woodward) and rode him to the top.

    3. AlmightyJB

      “He liberally throws around the word “lying” to describe the Trump administration on the subject of Russia when far simpler explanations make far more sense.”

      He’s not trying to make sense. He is trying to fabricate reality for the average sheep who pay little attention to the facts and the details.

      1. “Did I ever tell you how I helped rid the country of an evil President?”

        “Yes, Uncle Carl, you told us.”

        1. AlmightyJB

          I don’t think it will be quite as easy this time.

          1. Yeah, this is Nixon 2.0 – this time with a sense of humor.

          2. …but hopefully not as left-wing.

        2. Brochettaward

          “By dutifully doing what a disgruntled member of the deep state told you to do.”

  46. KSuellington

    Well, Obamacare is now still the law. The Senate bill is now dead. The sensible thing would be to just put up a straight up repeal for a vote, but I think we know the likelihood of that happening. Probably about the same likelihood that we see real tax reform happening in this Congress. Fucking useless Elephants.

    1. straffinrun

      AP: The Senate bill eliminated mandates and taxes under Obamacare, and unraveled a Medicaid expansion. But for conservatives like Lee and Paul it didn’t go far enough in delivering on Republican Party promises to undo Obama’s law, while moderates like Collins viewed the bill as too extreme in yanking insurance coverage from millions.

      Fuck Collins.

      1. Does the AP ever mention moderate Democrats?

        It would be quite a concession on their part, because it would imply that some Democrats are *not* moderate.

        1. straffinrun

          I’m a moderate on taxation. I don’t believe it’s theft, but more like a really aggressive way to take someone’s money.

          1. But look at the AP’s framing – you’ve got your moderates who are worried about millions of people losing insurance, and you’ve got your Lee/Paul style conservatives who are trying to fulfill and anti-Obama campaign promise.

            Let’s see…moderates who care about people having health care versus conservative ideologues who want to bash Obama.

      2. Hyperion

        Collins is a Democrat. Anyway, I’m not at all disappointed by this. Democrats still own this heap of dung and it’s going down in flames, and the Democrats will be blamed for it. Either repeal it, or let it crash and burn.

        1. straffinrun

          Ah, the Venezuelan technique. *Tents fingers and cackles*

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise. And I agree on real tax reform.

      No matter how well the Democrats set the Republicans up for success, the Republicans manage to shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly instead.

      1. Hyperion

        I’d much rather they pass Trump’s tax cut and leave Obamacare to crash and burn. Then in a year or so, they can repeal what’s left of the burning corpse of Obamacare.

        1. Pomp

          Largest transfer of wealth in history.

          -Pelosi

      2. Brochettaward

        The only thing to say for the GOP here is that this was actually done in a timely manner. It just wasn’t in-line with any of the campaign rhetoric from Trump or the party itself. It took the Dems a pretty long time to put together anything despite healthcare reform being on the agenda since FDR, and the ACA is the best they could manage despite having a filibuster proof majority for much of that time. The media is just more willing to hold Republicans to account/actively sabotage it all. It’s all made worse by 6 or so years of voting for repeals and then backtracking once in power.

        It’s pretty fucking tough to pass sweeping healthcare legislation. It’s even tougher with 52 seats in the Senate. The closest thing I have to a strategy here would have been to hammer home the point to everyone in the party that they gained power after Obamacare’s passage. But you’re asking your political hacks to tune out a lot of noise, and plenty of them are vulnerable over the next 2-4 years. With healthcare, it’s one of those things where things are going to get worse before they get better.

        Democracy does not incentivize long term planning or risky propositions. Far better to vote for some bill with a dead kid’s name slapped onto it. Feel good shit with little real impact.

  47. Gilmore

    Therefore = Liberals Can’t Win

    *via instapundit

    **disclosure: I don’t like Josh Barro, but he seems to have stumbled onto the obvious here. finally. i just think the odds of anyone on the left taking his advice is (thankfully) nil. In fact, in response, they will triple their ‘annoying’ output.

    ***I think (hat tip to whomever pointed it out) Emmit Retsin made the same point better in the ‘Smug Style In American Politics’ piece, which i also noted was something pointed out many times in the past. Its just notable coming from barro because he’s very much the ‘establishment left’.

    ****my conviction that no one will actually listen to his point is semi confirmed in his repeated attempts to sugar the pill with “everyone agrees with [democrats] already, they just don’t know it!” assertions. He also misreads polls the way everyone in his professional class do.

    1. Hyperion

      Problem number one with this article, is that it starts with a false premise. There aren’t any fucking liberals, they’re leftists.

      The 2nd major problem is this: “As I see it, Democrats’ problem isn’t that they’re on the wrong side of policy issues.”

      No, their policies are exactly what the problem is. The fact that they’ve exacerbated that problem with their smugness and identity politics is just rubbing salt in their own wounds. It’s not the root of the problem. The root of the problem is how far left they’ve went and their only solution to anything is more taxes and more government.

      1. Hyperion

        And “They don’t always want to prohibit those choices.”

        Yes they do, they’d ban every fucking single thing they don’t like if they could.

      2. Gilmore

        There aren’t any fucking liberals, they’re leftists.

        best of luck getting the rest of the country to change the standard terminology overnight. I think Prog has stuck, but ‘leftist’ doesn’t work because frankly its not really true. most democrats aren’t leftists of the “actually read Marx” variety. they are little different in philosophy than the average republican voter. And i think he’s probably right that most people in the country would probably accept lots of the ‘beneficent big govt ideas’ that democrats pitch if it weren’t for their Coastal Elitism coating it all.

        I agree that they are on the wrong side on some policy issues, but not all. I think if they dropped the transgender and climate change nonsense they’d convert large swaths of the heartland back to blue in no time.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Free shit is an alluring siren song for most.

        2. John Titor

          but ‘leftist’ doesn’t work because frankly its not really true. most democrats aren’t leftists of the “actually read Marx” variety.

          Pretty much. The modern ‘leftist’ is more driven by emotion than ideology, i.e. they want public healthcare because “wouldn’t it be great if everyone had free medical care and we saved the people who can’t afford it?” not because it’s some redistribution scheme in order to level the playing field to eventually bring about the Worker’s Paradise.

          1. Hyperion

            Those are the useful idiots who have always been part of the left.

          2. John Titor

            Go back and read Lenin’s discourses on Marx and society. Then compare it to the modern left wing upper class. No, it is not the same.

          3. Pan Zagloba

            How about comparing them to Fabians, and garbage humans like the Webbs particularly?

          4. John Titor

            My point is that the modern left is decidedly less philosophical and ideological than its precursors. Democratic operators and even people like the Bernie Bros are not arguing amongst themselves about the nature of the Hegelian dialectic.

            Lenin was willing to admit that his revolution would be stained with blood, in fact he accepted and approved of the outcome as a natural part of the process. The modern left denies its existence.

          5. Pan Zagloba

            Oh to be sure, the modern lot are bloodless, wishy-washy cretins of no experience with the very people they are trying to “help”, no consistent ideology that will run a society, who are mostly in it for the status and feels and would shit their pants if an actual revolution came.

            But I think Hyperion is right, such people have always been an integral part of the Western left (in places where being a Communist was illegal as in multi-year prison terms, that lot melted away fast). Road to Wiggan Pier has a lot to say about them.

        3. Hyperion

          “best of luck getting the rest of the country to change the standard terminology overnight.”

          Not overnight, but it’s happening.

          1. Pan Zagloba

            If it’s happening it’s because they fucked up “liberal” so bad, and it’s been, what, a century? since they adopted it, so “progressive” is no longer as radioactive as it was, say, 50 years ago.

          2. John Titor

            No, it’s not. Instead you have people like Dave Rubin calling themselves ‘classical liberals’ while supporting things like public healthcare. People like Rubin ‘taking the term back’ is actually worse because it just smuggles left wing ideals back into liberalism with it.

          3. Hyperion

            I’m talking about what other’s call them, not what they call themselves. This isn’t the only place I read the comments. The use of ‘leftist’ instead of liberal is far more prevalent than it was a couple of years ago.

            Of course the liberals are going to change up their preferred moniker again. It was communism, then socialism, then progressive, then liberal, then socialist again, the progressive again. Classical liberal, that’s hilarious, fucking progs.

          4. John Titor

            Conservatives ranting about ‘leftists’ instead of liberals don’t mean shit. I read comments on other sites too and it’s not like the left-wing has given up on the moniker yet.

          5. Hyperion

            Only I’m not saying the left have given up on the moniker. I’m saying that more people now refuse to call them liberals, because they obviously are no such thing.

        4. Brochettaward

          I remember in the Bush era progressive was a derogatory term used with condescension by mainstream Democrats. The younger people I argued with were very fond of telling me they weren’t liberals, but progressives. Then along came the recession and Obama, and it became the mainstream. Just an observation.

          Economic down times lead people to look for plans. They don’t have to be good plans, but people want something concrete and the free market isn’t going to sell well. It’s the reason they could force Obamacare down even if Dems knew it would cost them electorally. A lot of their ideas are popular and libertarians/conservatives who deny that are kidding themselves. Trump pushed a shit ton of economic populism to get narrowly elected, lest we forget.

          1. Brochettaward

            It’s also important to remember that for all the shit Reagan gets from some libertarians for his spending, he’s hated by the left because he helped implement a cultural shift. It took half a fucking century after FDR’s corpse went into the ground to begin to reverse his brand of populism. Point being – progressives did win the 20th century cultural war by far. Those ideas are deeply ingrained in nearly all Americans, even the conservative ones, and pushed by all major institutions. They are sold as obviously good from grade school on up.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            Lest we forget, progressivism was in both parties at its rise. Even sainted Coolidge was a progressive in his earlier political career.

    2. Brochettaward

      On one hand, it’s obviously true that Democrats suffer from a cultural disconnect

      If Republicans are guilty of capitulating due to the media bubble, Democrats are stuck in a cycle where they enjoy the smell of their own shit. They have no one to critique them that can’t be safely ignored or scalped given enough time. All the serious people they know tell them what they want to hear. This also contributes to their inability to accept diversity within their party and tweak their agenda to win local elections. The GOP doesn’t have these luxuries, but demographics make it tough to gain large majorities and the patchwork reps they do get in can’t agree on much of anything anymore. Even tax cuts.

      One party has no real leadership while the other is disgustingly top heavy.

    3. straffinrun

      Why would the voters on the receiving end of that smug condescension trust such a movement to operate the government in their best interest?

      Because that’s what worked on the liberal elitists themselves. Parents beat their kids because they were beat as kids. You see those YouTube street fight videos and dudes calling each other “bitch!” and wonder why that would trigger them so much. I wouldn’t really care. I’ve had Japanese oyajis pissed at me and go into guttural Japanese on me and I just laugh.

    4. Pan Zagloba

      For fuck’s sake…

      Most Americans favor legalizing marijuana and oppose requiring transgender people to use bathrooms that match their sex at birth. They have come to favor same-sex marriage by 30 points. Nondiscrimination laws to protect gay people are even more popular than gay marriage. And universal background checks to buy guns are even more popular than that.

      Immigration is hard to poll – I don’t think poll questions tend to adequately capture the trade-offs involved in the issue – but Americans disapprove of President Donald Trump’s handling of the issue by a very wide margin, suggesting that “nastier to Mexicans” was not the ethos they most wanted in a president.

      The one major exception to the Democratic edge on cultural policy is abortion, a closely divided issue on which public opinion has barely shifted since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973.

      But the median voter’s position on abortion boils down to “It should be legal, but only early in pregnancy and only if you have a good reason.” If Democrats have a problem with their broad-access position on abortion being too extreme for the median voter, then so do Republicans who want to prohibit it.

      So you take a few stacked polls (no link) as proof, then pretend those same didn’t tell you what you don’t want to hear on illegal immigration, and top it off with “Most Americans agree with mainstream GOP position on abortion, fiercely disagree with mainstream Democrat position on same. Fact Check Verdict: Pox on both houses.”

      And his solution – double down on progressiveness but stop insulting and harassing scum openly until they give you power. GENIUS!

      1. Pan Zagloba

        I should, however, give praise on finally someone turning the “They vote against their own interests!!!!” argument on the progs and demonstrated that, yes, do you.

      2. Hyperion

        “And universal background checks to buy guns are even more popular than that.”

        You see, this is why when they seem to believe they are self reflecting, they certainly are doing no such thing. They live in a bubble and they cannot think outside of it. This is why I feel confident that the left will move further left, double down on identity politics, continue to lose, and have no self awareness at all, why it’s happening.

        1. Pan Zagloba

          And keep in mind, this is a guy who is trying to get them to step out of the bubble!

          1. Hyperion

            Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. He’s one of the reasonable ones, apparently, and he can’t even manage to be honest with himself.

        2. Gilmore

          You’re correct this is one of those things he completely misunderstands the polls about. its one of a few.

          its an example of one of those polls which was actually designed to produce a bullshit # (like the 97% climate change thing) to convince others… but instead mostly serves to confuse and convince themselves, because now they just wonder “if so many people agree, surely we should keep trying!” They don’t realize the poll only reflected people’s grudging admission that the “background checks” we already do are probably the most that can be done; not that they want MORE or MORE EXTENSIVE ones. They fooled themselves into thinking that they indicate that people want more gun laws, when instead all they showed was that people being polled probably understand those gun laws far better than people like Barro do

      3. SimonD

        Yeah, they must have polled the newsroom at Business Insider to come up with those numbers.

        However, I do think ‘Progressive’ is an unintentionally correct term for the modern left, since 1900 Progressivism was basically fascism repackaged for an American audience.

  48. Pomp

    In the mood for some lazy, hysterical handwringing? Well look no further.

    1. Gilmore

      FP magazine still locks my browser up in 2 seconds.

      $)@#(* hate them. partly because i used to read it every day.

  49. Juvenile Bluster

    The cop who murdered that woman in Minneapolis is really, really sorry you guys. I think we should just put him back on the job now. With a bonus.

    Thomas Plunkett, Noor’s attorney, said Monday that the officer “extends his condolences to the family and anyone else who has been touched by this event. He takes their loss seriously and keeps them in his daily thoughts and prayers.”

    “He came to the United States at a young age and is thankful to have had so many opportunities,” Plunkett said in the statement. “He takes these events very seriously because, for him, being a police officer is a calling.”

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Some people are learning the correct lesson from this.

      Another neighbor, Drew Rosielle, said his heart goes out to her family. The shooting makes him reticent to call police, he said.

      “This could easily happen to me and my wife, calling for police and asking for help,” he said. “It hits really close to home.”

    2. Brochettaward

      I hate cops. Quite a bit. But I’m going to reserve judgement until I hear details. The assumption is that he’s a piece of shit. The circumstances right now tell me that he was probably at best grossly negligent. I’m not going to condemn him until I know what happened. What’s really fucking deplorable and should be the focus of our ire, in my view, is the way the police departments respond. It’s a lack of accountability combined with perverse incentives.

      1. straffinrun

        That’s the entire problem, isn’t it. Diminished accountability creates abhorrent behavior. Thin blue line? No, more like a long brown streak.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        Agreed, but this one seems more egregious than most (and there are a lot of egregious shootings). There really isn’t a situation one can imagine where the shooting can in any way be justified (though the union is damn sure going to try to find one).

        We know he’s a piece of shit. The only question is whether he’s a horrifically negligent one (as you know, there’s no such thing as an “accidental” shooting) or an actually murderous one. And thanks to the fact that he didn’t have his camera on (contra department policy), he’s going to get the benefit of the doubt, because cop.

      3. Hyperion

        Sure we can reserve judgement. But I’m still going to have to guess what happened. She was running towards the car with her cell phone in her hand, not knowing any better, just wanting to do something she thought was good, and he panic fire shot her, several fucking times. I mean you never know though. Guns being autonomous sentient things, the damn thing may have just jumped out of it’s holster and started shooting at random women in their pajamas, all on it’s very own.

        1. Pan Zagloba

          What the woman was doing in gun’s pajamas, they’ll never know….

          1. Hyperion

            Every damn time this happens, you hope against all odds that finally this is the time that something happens, but it never does. I mean really? Can this just go on forever? Is there anyone that is not more afraid of being killed by a cop at a random traffic stop or by them just showing up at the wrong address, than by criminals? Because I can’t even imagine that.

          2. Pan Zagloba

            It can and will go on for a while. There really are not that many deaths in a country of 300 million people, race will always fuck up the perception of the problem, and power of unions ensures that actual solutions will not be implemented.

          3. Rhywun

            This. Nothing will happen. The vast majority of Americans practically worship cops – observe the intro nearly any American sporting event if you need proof.

        2. Brochettaward

          His finger should never have been on the trigger until he fully intended to shoot. I know this. I don’t if the average cop knows this and the evidence I’ve seen indicates that they don’t. I think they typically do follow protocol, sadly. Protocol is just vague and poorly defined, or just outright wrong. Their training kind of sucks and focuses on the wrong things. The guy probably wasn’t wired to have a gun and a badge, but his colleagues will rally around him out of some completely moronic faux warrior ethos that’s been created around their chosen career choice.

          Someone is dead who clearly should not be. There needs to be real consequences for that. Question I have is how much.

    3. KSuellington

      Aw, well shucks then. Just let the poor guy off with a warning. We can’t mess up his dreams of being a cop after killing just one innocent person.

      1. Hyperion

        You mean without a paid vacation? What sort of monster cop hater are you?

        1. Pan Zagloba

          Jesus, mere paid vacation? Promotion, after he was so traumatized by white privilege!

    4. Hyperion

      What is he sorry for? Why the fuck did he shoot her? Why was his camera not on? You know, it’s just about, no it’s way past time that Americans stop putting up with this shit.

      1. Bob

        That ship sailed unfortunately. It’s about race now. Cop criticism is equivalent to BLM member. BLM is unpopular among sane people so nobody wants the issue.

        1. Hyperion

          Yeah, BLM really ruined any chance of meaningful police reform. This was the intent of the race hustlers like Sharpton who inserted themselves into it. And it worked.

          1. KSuellington

            A good friend and I go to into a pretty heated argument about BLM a few weeks back. She has evidently turned into a pretty hardcore prog. She had always been liberal, but never that bad. The funniest thing was every time I gave her an indisputable fact was when she flipped out the most and accused me of being full of shit.

            The first time a BLM protest passed by me (I’m in SF and travel around the city all day for work and have seen about three) I noticed that there was a large number of signs that had RevCom in orange on the front of many of the signs. I also noticed plenty in news pictures of protests.

  50. straffinrun

    Princes of the Yen: Central Bank Truth Documentary. I’ve just started on it, but so far it seems like a Kucinich type criticism of central banking and not a Ron Paul type complaint. Anybody seen this?

  51. Derpetologist

    Today in crimes against music and good taste:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy-SiZSlmhI

    1. Pan Zagloba

      Blond white kid screeching threats of violence with red-and-black motif….

      They really didn’t think of the optics, did they?

    2. Rhywun

      *swoon*

    3. Gilmore

      lol

      “Cuckcore”

  52. Derpetologist

    R Kelly accused of holding women prisoner. Perhaps he trapped them in a closet.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40639378

    ***
    The report, which quoted three unnamed sets of parents, said they had not seen or spoken with their daughters for months, and that the women, all of them over the age of consent, had their routines controlled by the singer.

    That included rules about what they could eat and wear, when to bath and sleep and how to engage in sexual encounters recorded by him, they said.
    ***

  53. Derpetologist

    It occurred to me today that the song Imagine is just The Big Rock Candy Mountains, but for hippies instead of hobos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqowmHgxVJQ

    1. KSuellington

      I don’t think there is a pop song that I hate more than Imagine. A large part of that is how many fucking times I have heard it combined with the reverence it commands in people.

      1. Rhywun

        Which is pretty impressive given that it’s the most leftist song I can think of outside of a Billy Bragg concert.

        1. Pan Zagloba

          Bah, Lefties can write far better than that shit when they want to!

          1. Pan Zagloba
          2. Rhywun

            Oh, don’t I know it.

          3. Pan Zagloba

            Honestly, I never enjoyed that anthem. It’s weird that Russia adopted it, when the Imperial Russian Anthem has a damn fine tune, and if you want to sex it up, Tchaikovsky did it twice (in Marche Slave and 1812 Overture).

          4. Rhywun

            No way. The Commie/current one screams “Russia” to me. And the tune is amazing.

          5. Derpetologist

            My favorite version of the Russian anthem:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peVdsTglebA

          6. Hyperion

            Rush’s Anthem is a great tune… oh, Russia. Hey, that video of the Bear riding on the bike someone posted today. Does anyone think that Putin would wrassle that bear with no shirt on?

          7. Pan Zagloba

            The Commie/current one screams “Russia” to me

            One of the many crimes of Soviet regime to present nothing but a stern, humorless and regimented facade to the outside world as a true face of Russia, and that history (except Tolstoy and maybe Pushkin) started in 1917.

            Wrong side won!

      2. Derpetologist

        It’s one of the 4 Horsemen. The other 3 are Don’t Stop Believing, Hotel California, and Free Bird.

        1. Hyperion

          Free Bird? WTF?

          1. KSuellington

            I would drop Free Bird and include “Losing my Relgion”. What a terrible friggin tune. Ugh

          2. Hyperion

            Losing my Religion is no way near as bad as “Stand”. That has to be the dumbest song ever.

          3. Gustave Lytton

            Worse as a theme song for an awful show.

          4. straffinrun

            That Da Da Da song by Trio is the worst song I’ve ever heard.

          5. KSuellington

            Maybe we can just agree that R.E.M. sucks huge donkey balls.

          6. Rhywun

            Now you’re just being ridiculous.

          7. Hyperion

            I remember some of the people I worked with then, who were not the sharpest tools in the shed, went around singing Stand and doing that goofy shit they did in the video. And I remember thinking that those people should just fucking die right now.

          8. one true athena

            I had a roommate for a summer college internship who was obsessed with that REM album. If you think it’s bad just casually listening, imagine being forced to hear it on repeat for a month.

            Every song on it to this day makes me want to slam a heavy rock into whatever’s playing it.

          9. Rhywun

            I am a fan of their older stuff – they peaked with Life’s Rich Pageant.

          10. Akira

            My mom and my older brother loved REM when I was a little kid. One time we drove from Ohio to some lake in Michigan and they played the same damn REM tape the whole way there. I got so sick of it that at a rest stop, I took the tape out, pulled out all the ribbon and ripped it, then spit on it and threw it under the seat.

            Yes, i was a real shit-heel when I was a little kid.

        2. KSuellington

          Ha! I always think it should include, “imagine people aren’t really people, but something totally different. Maybe like robots.”

          1. Derpetologist

            Imagine if wishes were horses
            It’s easy if you try
            Everyone gets a pony
            And all the beggars would ride

          2. KSuellington

            Imagine all the people, in a huge ass line for bread.

          3. Rhywun

            LOL

          4. Hyperion

            Imagine no toilet paper
            It’s easy if you try
            No toothpaste either
            Don’t even think of pie

          5. Derpetologist
          6. Pan Zagloba

            If you’re offended by something in this video please watch my manifesto before you complain

            LOL!

          7. KSuellington

            Imagine there’s no tp
            These skid marks are hard to take
            They’ll kill my family if I complain
            And probably eat my dog
            Imagine all the people, living under a boot

          8. DOOMco

            I had hoped there were more than 903 ancaps.

          9. Derpetologist

            Imagine Communism
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Uws-D_cOM

            comment gold:

            “Imagine having no food and your countrymen getting killed off by the millions. PS, I like how you only used the propaganda drawings and not real photos, because you will never find a happy communist.”

    2. Pan Zagloba

      First, Big Rock Candy Mountain has better tune and lyrics.

      Second, I would love to see a Piano Totting BRCM Guy show up at the next Vigil After Senseless And Unexpected Event!

    3. straffinrun

      “The punk rolled up his big blue eyes and said to the jocker, “Sandy, I’ve hiked and hiked and wandered too, But I ain’t seen any candy. I’ve hiked and hiked till my feet are sore, I’ll be God damned if I hike any more, To be buggered sore like a hobo’s whore In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.”

      Same ending though, Amirite?

    4. DEG

      I’m reminded of “Fisherman’s Green” except that fisherman actually work.

  54. Derpetologist

    Today’s fun fact: the words eureka and heuristic both come from the Greek word for “to find”.

    “eurisko” means “I find”
    “eureka” means “I have found [it]”

    In other news, I was officially declared the top Klingon student today. Hooray! Zoidberg is useful!

    38 days til graduation.

    1. Rhywun

      Fun fact: the single item I deemed worth purchasing in East Germany during a visit in 1986 was a Greek textbook.

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Congrats on your triumph over the lesser students! Carry the Glibertarian banner monocle high! Excelsior!

      Wait, I was told that in the Army you never want to be the guy who’s known for fucking up OR the guy who’s known for getting shit done…

  55. Derpetologist

    Charles Murray’s bio from the SPLC as edited by Charles Murray:
    http://www.aei.org/publication/charles-murrays-splc-page-as-edited-by-charles-murray/

    ***
    A good place to start is by correcting a common confusion about the role of genes in individuals and in groups. As we discussed in Chapter 4, scholars accept that IQ is substantially heritable, somewhere between 40 and 80 percent, meaning that much of the observed variation in IQ is genetic. And yet this information tells us nothing for sure about the origin of the differences between races in measured intelligence. This point is so basic, and so commonly misunderstood, that it deserves emphasis: That a trait is genetically transmitted in individuals does not mean that group differences in that trait are also genetic in origin. Anyone who doubts this assertion may take two handfuls of genetically identical seed corn and plant one handful in Iowa, the other in the Mojave Desert, and let nature (i.e., the environment) take its course. The seeds will grow in Iowa, not in the Mojave, and the result will have nothing to do with genetic differences. The environment for American blacks has been closer to the Mojave and the environment for American whites has been closer to Iowa. The Bell Curve: 298.

    In any case, you are not going to learn tomorrow that all the cognitive differences between races are 100 percent genetic in origin, because the scientific state of knowledge, unfinished as it is, already gives ample evidence that environment is part of the story. But the evidence eventually may become unequivocal that genes are also part of the story. We are worried that the elite wisdom on this issue, for years almost hysterically in denial about that possibility, will snap too far in the other direction. It is possible to face all the facts on ethnic and race differences in intelligence and not run screaming from the room: That is the essential message. The Bell Curve: 315.
    ***

    Why, you’d have to be an idiot to read this and think Murray is a racist…

    Oh. Right.

  56. Hyperion

    “McConnell: Next step is a straight repeal vote”

    Thank you, Rand. Now let’s get it done.

    1. straffinrun

      If it plays out that way, I will personally suck Trump’s cock for being the world’s best 9D chess player even though he would have probably just tripped and fallen into that sweet spot.

      1. Hyperion

        I’ve already decided to just cut my best of the best healthcare policy back to just the basics, because the deductible and out of pocket is just so high now that I can’t actually afford to use it for reasons that are not life threatening. Millions of Americans in the same boat. If they just repeal at least we can maybe get back to reasonable deductibles. Mine went from $750 for my wife and I to $4000. At the same time, premiums increased by 30% and wait times to see a specialist tripled or more. And most good doctors went concierge.

        1. KSuellington

          Yup, mine is absoutely useless now. I pay 1100 a month for my family and the deductible went up massively. It’s a scam, but the self employed got screwed the hardest by far.

  57. Derpetologist

    I’m glad this video has very few views.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQc5f2JYP-A

    It was amusing to see his unironic pairing of Imagine with communist propaganda.

    1. Pan Zagloba

      No! BAD DERPY! NO!

      1. Derpetologist

        He honestly argues that because the populations of China and the USSR went up, it is impossible for millions of people to have been killed.

        Top notch derp.

        1. Hyperion

          Wow, and he has a bunch of real commie followers.

          1. DOOMco

            yeah, I’m lost in the comments right now.

  58. Hyperion

    This is post 666.

  59. Derpetologist

    from the business insider article gilmore linked above

    ***
    He withdrew the US from the Paris climate accord, which had few direct policy effects but was extremely important as a vehicle for moral signaling about climate change.
    ***

    Well at least he admits it.

    1. Derpetologist

      the money shot

      ***
      Liberals don’t have to outbid Trump on license to win back the voters they alienated with their cultural impositions. They just have to become somewhat less annoying. I think this is feasible.
      ***

      It’s as feasible as rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.