In May, I wrote an article about the unlikely chance of Antifa and the Alt-Right coming to blows and kicking off a civil war. The Antifa Brownshirts were agitating about impeachment at that time, but two months later, they’ve changed gears and gone after the skinheads. While that, in and of itself, isn’t of particular concern, there is a more disturbing trend emerging. Antifa feels free to organize against any “unwoke” social gathering and attempt to get some scalps. What used to be a Simon and Garfunkel concert is now a Dropkick Murphys mosh, and the cops are happy to just sit there and watch. Even if there was just a small escalation in arms between the commies and the nazis, it wouldn’t be noteworthy, except for the way that Antifa is being treated by the left and their media hack cronies.
As I wrote in the May article:
Although people joke about “alternative facts,” it’s not a joke. There are two prevailing agendas across the country: 1) Trump is LITERALLY HITLER and A RUSSIAN MOLE AT THE SAME TIME!!! 2) Trump is DADDY and GOD-KING OF KEKISTAN, VANQUISHER OF THE SJWs and CUCKS!!! The left has their educational and media empire churning out outrage by the gallon. The right has their independent media matching the outrage of the left.
Antifa is smashing windows and folks like Based Stickman (who the fuck is Based Stickman and why is he called that??) are bashing Antifa heads in. People are primed to believe that the violence will do nothing but escalate.
This dynamic is still there, and the excuse making for the violence injected by Antifa has come to a fever pitch. It wasn’t enough that Trump denounced all of the violent elements in a volatile situation. No, he specifically had to denounce the supposed “right wing” (read: non-Marxian) “hate group” (read: non-PC group). Now that he’s showing an ounce of backbone in standing up to the Prog-Fascist media, he’s LITERALLY HITLER yet again.
Once again, we approach a crossroads. Will a critical mass of people buy the media’s angle? Will the escalating violence of Antifa be excused away as a righteous backlash against an evil President backed by a malignant social movement? Or, will people cut through the BS and hold both sides accountable for the increasing tension and violence? The first fatal blow has been struck, and it’s just a matter of time before more are landed. Will people give a collective shrug and go back to living their largely unaffected lives, or will they be galvanized to one side or the other by the unaccountable mayhem?
I still think that a widespread conflict is quite unlikely, but let’s jump back through the portal and get comfy in the Derplight Zone once more. What factors are festering under the surface that could bubble up into a civil war?
LITERALLY HITLER
Antifa and their media and political organs are doubling down on the LITERALLY HITLER rhetoric, which is absolutely polarizing and dehumanizing. There’s a reason that people were extremely hesitant to analogize to Hitler in domestic politics for 50 years. The guy was so dangerous that we co-opted an entire nation’s resources for 4 years to end his reign, at immense cost in human and economic terms. When the left compares Trump to Hitler (even implicitly), they’re sending a message to the right, and especially the Alt-Right, that this isn’t just a domestic debate, but a fight to the death.
The dangerous part is when the left leaves no room for dissent. People on both sides of the political aisle have always been susceptible to hyperbole and puffery, but when the left uses the power of boycott, violence, doxxing, and blacklisting on a regular basis, people who believe differently are given no outlet to vent off their pent up political energy. Much like gunpowder, their anger fizzles out when lit in the open, but when contained in a tidy little container, the results are explosive. The increased “all or nothing” attitude from the LITERALLY HITLER left is boxing the Alt-Right up in a tidy little container.
“They’ve Gone Too Far This Time”
I’ve seen a lot of people react this way to the way Antifa has been acting lately. It’s one thing to protest, boycott, shout down, or even make a hostile work or learning environment. It’s a completely different thing to act as a mob. People don’t like mobs, and average non-political folks are taking notice of the mob mentality that has taken hold in certain parts of the left. Antifa has chosen their targets very carefully so far, but one poorly chosen location for a riot could result in a violent response from otherwise unattached people. For most of the unattached, the distance between them in their cozy suburban or rural lifestyle and the violence in the urban liberal college setting is far enough that they don’t feel threatened. If Antifa were to overstep their bounds and perhaps threaten something more relatable to suburban folks (like schoolchildren), the backlash would be swift and violent.
Widespread Acceptance of Increasing Violence
I hate the phrase “the new normal,” but it is apt in this situation. Most people see the increasing violence, rail about it for 24 hours, and then forget about it. Like mentioned above, there’s a comfort in the fact that these goons seem to be contained on 
Marxist-sympathizing college campuses. However, you get less of what you penalize and more of what you celebrate. While the average Joe and Jane are ignoring the violent protests, the mainstream and leftist media are praising these goons for “punching Nazis.” We’re going to see more of this simply because there are hardly any consequences worth mentioning in comparison to the accolades bestowed upon these “woke” counter-protesters standing up to the evil Nazis. It’s getting to the point where people are resigned to the possibility of a second civil war.
Shifting Reaction to SJWs
The time is starting to come where perceptions of SJWs are shifting from a mix of fear and apathy to abject hatred. The problem is that most SJWs are emotionally stunted and unable to handle rejection. The resulting dynamic is a bunch of SJWs throwing temper tantrums, seeing that their Antifa friends (there is a significant crossover between the groups) are the golden children for breaking windows and harassing “Nazis.” On the other side is the Alt-Right, a reactionary group that makes its hay harassing SJWs and is stepping up its own reaction to these Antifa goons. As much as the Alt-Right dislikes Antifa, they HATE SJWs. They’re looking for an excuse to use Antifa’s tactics against the SJWs.
Economic Downturn
We’re about due for another recession, and people tend to be more amenable to violence when they don’t have a job. This one is fairly self-explanatory and well-documented throughout history.
Floundering Media
Overall, I’m still pessimistic on the chances of widespread fighting. I think the worst we will possibly see is an LA riots type situation. However, as shown in Charlottesville, all it takes is one body for the self-righteous leftist media to climb on top and start agitating. Like a high-stakes game of “Press Your Luck,” both sides keep smacking the button, hoping to hit the political jackpot, ignorant of the lurking Whammy.
First. Ah hah hah hah.
We’re still planning our move to the Anchorage area. Think we’ll be out of the shit? I’m too old for another war.
Enjoy the tap water!
(I know it’s sounds snarky but Anchorage has outstanding tasting municipal water)
Bear saliva?
Melting glacier water so maybe mastodon piss? Suck it
globalcoolingwarmingclimate change!Can I come with? I’ve always wanted to live in the middle of bumfuck Alaska.
We should set up a Glibs Compound in the middle of aformentioned Bumfuck, complete with razor wire, machine guns and “Fuck off, slavers” signs.
*inventories whisky bottles, supplies, weapons*
I’ll have to get back to you.
+1 Janet Reno
-1 Glibs Compound
I sleep better at night knowing that Janet reno is currently burning in hell.
Here’s some interesting data to ponder. I mentioned this yesterday, concerning the statues. Quote from AP article:
from the following link:
Culture Wars
There is no good news for the Democrats here. They’re running around pulling down statues and bending over backwards to not only protect but to appease antifa. And America does not like it.
You’re correct that they don’t support removing the statues. However, most of those people really aren’t all that passionate about preserving the statues. They answered the poll question and immediately went back to their lives. On the left however, destroying and rewriting history is their lives. The left also gets massive cover for their antics by the media especially when election time comes around.
this is correct.
polls can show you answers to ‘stated preference’ type questions. revealed preference looks at behavior. the behavior in 99% of these sorts of conflicts is that people will look around, go, “What answer will get me the least shit from my friends and neighbors” and then do that. Meaning, if some activist mayor decides to pander to the Statue Removers, its likely most people won’t squawk whether they agree or disagree, because what they really want is the question to go away and for people to stop bothering them about this dumb shit.
This also explains the difference between democracy and mob rule. If statues come down, it’ll be because of the latter, not former.
What average people believe because of the media: Antifa peacefully protest against hate groups who attack and murder these peaceful protestors. Even those that know antifa uses violence think they attack Nazis and that’s ok with them. What most people don’t realize is that Antifa’s definition of a Nazi is anyone who disagrees with them about anything. If course some on the left both in and out of the media also realize this and are also ok with it until of course they come for them.
Antifa are going to get exposed for being violent. There’s no way the media can cover for them much longer. For one, I believe they will become increasingly violent. But how far will that go is what I’m not really sure of. Remember that back in the earlier left wing revolution in the 1960s, Weather Underground and all of those groups, got quite violent. So I think the question is, will antifa start using terrorist tactics? Bombings, etc? I don’t know, because I think for the most part, they are spoiled rich kids who are too lazy and cowardly to go that far. But there are some in their ranks who are more of crazy anarchists and those may get out of hand. I suspect we’re going to see some incidents, along with investigations and arrests of antifa before too long. I don’t see a full scale civil war, but there is definitely a culture war happening and the country will be further divided with constant shit stirring by the leftist media.
As I mention below, at some point their probably going to take it too far with the cops, and there is not much wiggle room for there media when it comes to that. So that may be what does it.
Really depends where they do it right now. There was one video – can’t remember the campus where the cops were making everyone remove their masks or turn around. Another one, some jagoff antifa punched someone and pretty much the second after he landed it the cops were rolling him up.
Not that it should have gotten that far – but the municipality/leadership has a TON to do with it.
That second one where Mr skinny jeans antifa hit the “Naz”i and got himself rolled up was on a campus too (Washington University?) I believe. It was university cops who arrested the guy. It was hilarious. I wish I saved that link.
This the one you’re thinking of? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H27Ul9ZsHk
Ya, that is it. “It was self defense, he assaulted me!!!” hahaha
I don’t know, because I think for the most part, they are spoiled rich kids
Isn’t that pretty much who the Weathermen, etc., were?
yes, mostly. they were a combination of the kids of upper-middle-class or very-rich people (Ayers, Dohrn), and a sprinkling of lower-middle class and outright ne’er-do-wells. But the ‘rich kids’ were pretty much always running the show, if not as the formal leadership, as the bankrollers. Wealthy suburbs have always been the prime breeding ground for ideological leftism in America.
Which is something I don’t get as someone who grew up in such a suburb, why on earth would you want to make that impossible for future generations?
Wealthy parents are the only ones who teach their kids to pursue whatever idle fancy pleases them;
lower-middle class parents live in terror of their kids slipping back into the poverty they escaped from, so they hammer them constantly with the basics of ‘how to get ahead in life’
When you’re surrounded by material wealth, the only thing that distinguishes you from your also-rich peers is your *moral* superiority. So a popular thing for the children of the wealthy to do is to preen their ideological purity. Getting into Harvard on academics alone is passe; no, you need to spend a summer in Uganda helping dig wells or some shit. You can’t just go on a bike trip to France; you need to “raise awareness” of global warming by participating in some eco-tour.
I went to a very rich high-school, and my 10 year reunion was littered with girls who were doing “Social work” after having spent $150,000 on ivy-league degrees. If you said you were working on Wall St you got rolled eyes and knowing-looks.
Sometime I feel like starting a commie cult where anyone who joins can show their devotion to the cause.
So a person joins and the first thing that happens is they go before the ministry of equality. The minister says ‘How many internet capable devices do you own?’. They answer ‘I have my new iPhone, my iPad, and my new Apple laptop’. The minister says ‘Bring them before me’. Then the minister takes all 3 and says ‘There’s 3 people here who don’t have any of those’, confiscates and redistributes them. Then the minister asks ‘How many pairs of shoes do you own’?
If they’re going to social signal, that’s not enough, they need to show their true devotion to the cause. Also, they’ll be sleeping on the ground tonight. barefoot, in a hut with no air conditioning or internet because got to save mama Gaia.
Very insightful.
This post is as good a place as any to say it:
The Glibertariat consistently gives me more insight and better ways of looking at things than I could ever get from any media outlet.
Agree RCD. Some thoughtful writings here.
Antifa and the leftists have already attacked a group of Repub Congresscritters, pulled down statues, killed Dallas cops, shut down speakers violently, etc.
Yet the media portray them as peaceful hipsters. We need to be speaking louder. Maybe spray paint ‘racist’ on the FDR memorial.
My question though is, would it really matter when they are exposed? If the violence continues to be contained to bastions of Leftism, I can’t imagine that the average Joe is going to care all that much, like JB pointed out above with the statues.
On another point, when the media is forced to acknowledge Antifa’s violence, I could easily see people like Sessions using it as a platform to convince the majority of the public to support increased policing powers.
What I’ve seen out of most lefties, and I get that chance often since I can’t actually avoid them, is that their reaction to all of this is some variant of ‘OMG Trump!’. And that’s about it. And it’s not that they’re even really thinking about any of this much, outside of when they get into public and feel the need to social signal that they’re on the good side, you know, the side against Trump. They just parrot what they hear on CNN or MSNBC and they social signal that they agree. That’s it. None of them are going to join antifa in the streets.
’cause that shit can hurt! Ever taken in a lungful of CS gas? Or been hit by an oak riot baton?
*hits Twitter and the Book of Faces to signal harder*
I was wondering if Trump was keeping the focus on this because he knows who ACTUALLY commits political violence… by getting the press to go SO HARD on “political violence is bad” he can turn it back on them as soon as antifa is antifa. OTOH, I don’t think they’ll admit it even when it does happen, soooo…
How much speech has already been stiffled by the threat of antifa violence? I would wager quite a bit. Hell even the social media derptards have people not wanting to speak up because they don’t want it to turn into a deep war. I think the larger concern isn’t of civil war which I don’t think most people would have the stomach for anyways, but of people just feeling that it’s just not worth the hassle to exercise their free speech. The first amendment may or may not survive, the question is even if it survives in the courts, will it survive apathy.
Even prior to the Charlottesville thing, the media reporting was basically. There was a Trump rally and violence broke out. Or violence broke out at some conservative speech. The violence is never linked to the left and as you point out, when Trump tried to even partially link violence to the left the media and even the Republican establishment went into overtime to punish him. This stuff will continue and antifa will continue to evade any responsibility. The one thing that might derail them is when they declare full out war on the cops.
When you stooooopid mammals quit fucking around and start culling these ferals I’ll be there with my refrigerated box truck.
Wait a minute….
Is ZARDOZ one of You People in disguise?!
ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU, HIS CHOSEN INQUIRING ONE.
NEITHER ZARDOZ OR THE TABERNACLE HAVE COOPERATED WITH ANY REPTILES. HOWEVER, IF THEY WISH TO CULL BRUTALS, WE CAN TALK.
Hmmmm… Guess I’m the only one wasting their Saturday:)
Sir Charles nails it concerning the statue controversy. It is a good thing he has a long established don’t give a F attitude because it might scare off those trying to put him down the memory hole.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/18/barkley-worrying-about-confederate-statues-waste/
“You know what I am going to do? I am going to keep doing great things, I am going to try to keep trying to make a difference”
What a fascist.
Wondering if anyone other than the counter protesters are going to show up in Boston.
“Organizers for the Boston event have invited “libertarians, conservatives, traditionalists, classical liberals, (Donald) Trump supporters or anyone else who enjoys their right to free speech,” according to a group calling itself the Boston Free Speech Coalition.”
Huh, a free speech rally and the left show up to oppose … free speech … and the media cheers this on.
I just watched a bit of MSNBC: it was an “alt-right” rally like the racists in Charlottesville.
Also, that guy from Google wrote an “anti-diversity” memo.
Yeah, elsewhere: “Alt-right white nationalist Nazis versus anti-racism counter-protesters.”
It might be interesting to flood the zone with announcements of free speech, alt-right, whatever protests that would draw the antifa goons, and then cancel them at the last minute after the goons have started assembling, perhaps with an announcement that since the violent antifa movement will be there, the protest has been cancelled to preserve the peace. Make them run all over the country for nothing.
The thing about Boston is that it is overrun with universities, and presumably with SJW morons who are the useful idiots for the useful idiots of antifa. I would expect the violent mob in Boston to be quite large.
That would be hilarious.
Having just been there, I can confirm it is overrun with virtue signallers and people who watch way too much Maddow. A bar near MIT had some sign outside all about how they’re all about EQUALITY!!!! (and I had to wonder whether anyone in a MAGA hat would be treated equally at all), banners proclaiming refugees and immigrants welcome, another sign about new citizens getting some city benefit I can’t remember, Gun Control Is Awesome billboard, etc etc. So it doesn’t surprise me at all that thousands of people are turning out to oppose free speech. Their own history, RIGHT THERE, and they don’t know, don’t care.
“A bar near MIT”
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Forget it athena, it’s Cambridge-town.
I think that what we are seeing here is just something that was always an inevitability. For more than 100 years the left has been moving the country ever more leftward while no one paid any attention. It didn’t affect them. Even in my lifetime. When I was young, the 70s and 80s, DC just seemed like some far off obscure place that had no effect at all on people’s local lives. The left seemed all but an invisible and unfelt force. But the left kept moving us leftward. They took over academia and the media. And the supposed opposition in the GOP did nothing. So the left kept getting bigger and bolder and louder, until people finally started paying attention. Now the inevitable blow back is here. During Obama’s early years the left thought utopia was finally upon us. They predicted a 1000 year reign of leftist utopia. But then people woke up and said ‘wait a minute here, we don’t think we want what they want’. And so here we are with Trump, the Nazis, and antifa. With the leftist controlled media having completely lost their fucking minds, with leftist academia having completely lost their fucking minds. With the alt-right, the alt-left, with Kekistan. Here we are.
I think the unrest and conflict were actually worse in the late ’60s/early ’70s. That got beaten back for a generation, but what concerns me is the difference in the demographics/knowledge base of the country then as opposed to now.
In the late ’60s/early ’70s, you had a lot of people who lived through the Depression and WWII, and I had a much clearer idea what real problems look like, what real violence and suffering look like, and so forth. You also had people educated in a system that was more focussed on basic skills and an ideology of American exceptionalism.
Contrast with now – a lot fewer people who have grown up insulated from real violence and suffering, and a generation or more educated in a system pushing an ideology of division, the evils of the American past, and so forth. I think left wing violence was in a much more hostile environment in the ’60s and ’70s. I don’t know how much of a difference these changes will make, but none of the difference will be to the good.
What a hash:
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fewermore people who have grown up insulated from real violence and sufferingThere was definitely a backlash in the last election and that may continue. A lot of the people that showed up at election day are people that are not vocal and who are not in the media. It’s what you might call a new Silent Majority.
The left may be able to shout people down and shut people up but at least for now, they can’t stop them from voting.
As long as they can’t count the votes outside their urban strongholds . . . .
Let’s not forget the Black Panthers (I think) standing outside voting precincts with clubs, and the DOJ doing absolutely nothing about it. Again, hard to see this happening outside urban strongholds.
Everything the Democrats have done since the last election are telling me that they are not going to find enough dead people and illegals next time around to help them much. Now they’re starting a culture war they can’t win.
Or they’re trying to create chaos to generate more dead people they can use.
Hilary did lose by a thin, thin margin. Pulling Stein, McMuffin and Johnson voters in by screaming “NAZI!” rather than hoping they split the “right-wing” vote might get them over the hump next time.
Everything the Democrats have done since the last election are telling me that they are not going to find enough dead people and illegals next time around to help them much.
I’ll be very interested to see what Trump’s investigation and hopefully reform of voting registration and requirements does. Just scrubbing the voting rolls of duplicates, felons, and non-citizens would probably cost the Dems at least a million votes, would be my guess.
Not enough to turn the electoral college, but it could start cracking the Blue Wall in state and local races. You never know.
I had a sort of confrontation with a lefty a while back over this. The guy was saying that Republicans oppose voting rights and are trying to stop certain people from voting. So I responded ‘dead people and illegal aliens aren’t supposed to be able to vote’. His reply was something like ‘you’re a racist!’. That was end of it.
I’m continually shocked I share a country with people who love taxes.
Here’s my test: ask your friends who pay over 25% income tax, so, is that cool?
Anyone who says “sure is!”: shoot them in the head. Twice. They are not human. They are one of Them.
The others have at least a chance (for now).
I’m going to stick with what I’ve always said. There are 3 kinds of people who will support paying more taxes.
1. Wealthy Democrats who know they aren’t going to pay more taxes anyway when taxes are raised on the payroll serfs.
2. Poor people who already pay no taxes and won’t.
3. Liars.
That’s it.
I saw John Oliver do a “take down” of investment fees, showing how expensive money management can be, compounded over time. It was all smug spoof style.
And my first thought was, “ok, if we’re going to take down a few investment basis points, then, obviously, let’s go ahead and analyze the compounded effects of income taxation over time. I think that’s somewhat over the fractions of a percent fees that money managers charge. So, just how much poorer are well, really, because of taxes?”
I won’t be holding my breath.
Smug spoof style… you sure that was John Oliver?
Except they don’t necessarily pay taxes. I know a couple, he is a GS 12 and she tutors for $50 an hour in cash. She’s quite proud of not declaring that. But, she is all for higher taxes.
There are people so out of it, they think their first paycheck is a mistake.
“This is wrong! FICA? I don’t know that bitch!”
One of the Antifa idiots will gun some people down sooner or later and that’ll be the end of it. It’s inevitable really.
Maybe at a baseball game?
Bah, that’s just far-fetched seething of diseased minds!
Well, maybe the person was just feeling unsafe and afraid because they saw some Nazis?
/CNN
What’s more American than shooting Nazis?
(adding up the casualty numbers, shooting Communists seems to be the answer)
You’re actually right, it depends on who they shoot. If they gun down some skinheads the outcry would be there but muted. If it’s some members of a local preservation society or something they’ll be crushed. This kind of violence always increases in intensity unless it’s nipped in the bud and it’s too late for that.
One of the Antifa idiots will gun some people down sooner or later and that’ll be the end of it. It’s inevitable really.
So inevitable that its already happened?
I know, I know – that was a Bernie Bro, not an antifa goon, but still – left wing violence is left wing violence. And he actually went after Congress members.
When an attempted assassination of multiple members of Congress disappears from the national media within a few days, your media culture has a very serious problem.
It’s surprised me the pols on the right haven’t been beating this drum harder.
Because most pols “on the right” are bought into the DemOp Narrative, because that narrative is more supportive of their status and power.
Yep, controlled opposition.
If a so called right winger shot at a group of Democratic Congressmen, the media would have went into a frenzy. But since it was done by a Leftist, they sort of threw the story aside. It’s bullshit and one of the reasons why the mainstream media are not to be trusted.
left wing violence is left wing violence. And he actually went after Congress members.
He shot them because they want to take away his healthcare. What did they expect?
/More or less an actual reason given to justify the shooting by more than one talking head or Democrat
That’s the argument I’ve heard. It’s the ,”She deserved it because she was wearing a short skirt,” argument.
No. that’s too personal and aggressive. they’ll make a bomb and try and make some “statement” and end up killing someone.
Hopefully themselves, like those Weather Underground dumbasses.
Bombs not guns. Bombs are the weapons of cowards.
This is an excellent post.
If there were something like a new civil war, it wouldn’t play out like The Civil War. It would play out more like the American Revolution–with the following dynamic.
Remember, the American Revolution effectively started out with antifa protestors posturing for the press. Antifa antagonize the police to get them to overreact–and then they exploit the press to make a huge deal out of it. Isn’t that what we’re talking about here?
Sounds to me like the The Boston Massacre.
Here’s the description from Wiki:
It might not have been a particularly important incident in the big scheme of things, but Paul Revere, who was an associate of The Loyal Nine, made this engraving of it–and it circulated through the print media at the time, enraging the colonists of Boston and elsewhere:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Boston_Massacre_high-res.jpg
The Loyal Nine were a group of radicals who antagonized the crown and exploited the crown’s overreactions for propaganda purposes–again, doesn’t that sound like antifa?
Eventually, the Loyal Nine morphed into the Sons of Liberty. They kept up with the same tactics. Let’s create a spectacle by dressing up like Indians and throwing all the tea into the harbor. The crown, famously, overreacted by bottling up Boston Harbor, the Sons of Liberty exploited that overreaction, and the American Revolution began.
There are two main reasons to think that our present situation isn’t anywhere so grave right now.
1) It’s important to note that by the time the rest of the colonists were enraged enough to go to war, the adults took over the revolution. The Loyal Nine and the Sons of Liberty were thanked kindly and sent to do their duty in non-leadership roles. The only one of the Sons of Liberty who was still in any kind of leadership role by the time the Declaration of Independence was signed was John Hancock, and his role in the Revolution continued to diminish after that, while adults like Washington, Franklin, et. al. continued to increase in importance in the leadership.
The antifa people have no such leadership, and they’re unlikely to attract any.
2) We’re still talking about small potatoes here. It’s important to keep a sense of scale.
In the LA Riots of 1992, 3,767 (three-thousand seven hundred and sixty-seven) buildings were burned. There were 12,000 arrests. It took 13,000 police and national guard to restore order with curfews, etc.
“The Long Hot Summer of 1967” refers to 159 race riots that broke out across the United States in 1967.
In the wake of Martin Luther King being assassinated in 1968, there were riots in:
2.1 Washington, D.C.
2.2 Chicago
2.3 Baltimore
2.4 Kansas City
2.5 Detroit
2.6 New York City
2.7 Pittsburgh
2.8 Cincinnati
2.9 Trenton, New Jersey
2.10 Wilmington, Delaware
2.11 Louisville
This is in addition to what was going on in the anti-war movement up to and through the early 1970s.
Things aren’t anywhere near as bad as they were back then–and the protestors were using some of the same tactics. The Kent State shooting was used much like the Boston Massacre. That went nowhere. That got Nixon and Reagan elected.
All that having been said, there’s one main reason to be alarmed–and that is that the conflict may not be the government against the antifa people.
The danger is that the right wing extremists provoke an overreaction by the government–and that draws the rest of the right into the conflict. That draws adults on the right into the conflict, with the David Dukes being sidelined much like the Loyal Nine.
At some point, a conflict like that would split the loyalties of our troops. My impression is that there are a lot of troops who might not like being ordered to go after average Americans standing up for their Constitutional rights against encroachment by antifa people, progressives, and a President like Liz Warren–who wants to use the military to put down opposition to her rule. That’s a recipe for a civil war or revolution.
Those antifa people are buffoons, and most of America hates them. The danger is that they provoke a right wing response on a massive scale. I shudder to think what would happen if some right wing guys marched with their AR-15s somewhere and really started using them in an organized and systematic attack on antifa counterprotestors. If a lefty President overreacted to something like that and tried to use the military, the national guard, or federal law enforcement to come after everybody with a registered firearm, then we’re in trouble.
I still think that’s far fetched.
This is an excellent post.
Do you mean Trshmnster’s or that wall of text you posted?
Thanks for the compliment, but I was talking about Trshmnster’s post.
I had never considered the antifa of today as anything like the first revolutionaries. That is an interesting angle though. The press really did not exist then did it? It was pamphlets and flyers and what not wasn’t it? More like the intertubes of today with small outlets and self publishing.
If we are going that angle, I would argue the people who stand up for actual liberty are like the revolutionaries. And no, not the white supremacists because they do not support liberty any more than antifa. The problem is, anybody who opposes antifa is now a Nazi and that is what the media, educated class, and half of congress will paint you as. That group is the King George of today.
I’m not comparing antifa and the Loyal Nine in terms of their ideology–just their situation and tactics. Bolsheviks and Libertarians aren’t the same because the both use silverware at the dinner table.
You could say the same thing about the Loyal Nine as the rabble who initiated the Russian Revolution. The Tsar wasn’t overthrown in the October Revolution. That was just when the Bolsheviks took over. The February Revolution was more like a spontaneous riot led by no one in particular.
Sometimes the leaders try to overthrow the government without the support of the people. That’s like the Beer Hall Putsch. That’s, more or less, what taught Hitler the importance of propaganda–gotta have the support of the people, if not for you, personally, then at least for the revolution.
In fact, it seems to be much easier to coopt someone else’s revolution than to start one and see it through.
Before the crown overreacted against the Boston Tea Party, most Americans, including the founding fathers, were still loyalists. Once you start impacting people’s everyday lives with overreactions, and they realize they’d be better off without you, all those bets are off.
The LA Riots were like that in ’92. They were a spontaneous reaction to the realization that there was nothing the people of South Central Los Angeles could do to free themselves from Daryl Gates and his military style tactics against average people–the police were like an occupying army. They couldn’t even get the cops convicted when their crimes were caught on video. “No justice, no peace” is the essence of the best part of social contract theory, the best part of which, like in the Declaration of Independence, holds that the government’s legitimacy is entirely revocable.
The city council didn’t even have the authority to fire him. The only way he could leave is if he resigned. A lot of his problem was his overreaction to the drug war. He was the first to militarize the police for that purpose. He served search warrants with a tank turned into a battering ram. It would knock the walls of a house down around a crack house–as I recall, children were killed. One of the reasons the Crips and Bloods proliferated across the country is because they had armed themselves so heavily against the LAPD, it meant they could outgun most any gang anywhere else in the country. Point being, revolutionary activity has a standard pattern (with variations and exceptions) that goes something like provocation, overreaction, revolution.
That’s the way it happened during the Arab Spring, too.
I’m not comparing the ideologies of the revolutionaries. I’m saying that these are the patterns that provoke revolutions, and I don’t think antifa in American circa 2017 has anywhere near the clout or the support to generate something like that. There’s more danger from government overreacting to the right than there is a danger of the right overreacting to the left.
I always thought it was wrong to exclude Pete Rose or Barry Bonds from the Hall of Fame because it’s silly to pretend they didn’t exist. You can’t talk about baseball history prominently mentioning them, so don’t ignore what they did. Put up their plaques and wrote an honest account of their contributions, both good and bad.
Well that’s how I feel about these damn statues. Shit happened by flawed people, and it’s beyond retarded to pretend it didn’t because it hurts someone’s feelings or doesn’t meet someone’s moral code.
Without/write.
Pete deserves in because his playing was untainted. Bonds should burn in hell.
Nah. How many pitchers were on steroids, too? I don’t give a shit about people putting stuff in their bodies, Bonds still had the fastest, most compact swing I have ever seen in my history of watching baseball. It was an efficiently brutal display of how to hit nearly anything thrown your way.
Also, players took stuff like greenies in the 1970s/1980s – so they’re not “pure” either.
Sort of OT:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/president-trump-won-t-attend-kennedy-center-honors-amid-planned-n794151?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma
“President Donald Trump and the First Lady will not attend the 2017 Kennedy Center Honors ceremony this December to allow honorees to celebrate “without any political distractions,”
Cue outcry that Trump won’t go because he’s a racist who doesn’t want to honor Carmen de Lavallade, Gloria Estefan, LL Cool J, or Lionel Richie.
(sigh) really? fuck me.
Gilmore Don’tlove Cool James.
The whole Kennedy Center Honors is a crock of shit, along with the attendance of the President and his wife.
I am an LL fan.
I’m not a fan of assholes in tuxedos pretending that their silly prizes matter and they’re super-woke for recognizing that the guy on NCIS used to do that rappity music 30 years ago.
I hope the violence stops, but the Left unwilling to come to grips about Antifa, they are making violence a bigger possibility. The thing with the Left though, they aren’t as cohesive as we believe them to be because they turn on each other in a drop of a hat if someone strays from the Orthodoxy. Basically what I am saying is that they will be their own undoing because they require absolute obedience to the narrative and have shaky premises and principles.
Leftists violence cannot stop or they can never usher in the great revolution. A free and prosperous people are never going to willingly go along with communism. So all they have left is violence. They had a plan and glorious hope when they were in full control of government to tax and spend everyone into poverty and government dependence. That failed. Now we’re seeing plan B.
I think you are right.
Interesting headlines I am seeing about the Boston Free Speech rally.
HuffPuff calls it provocative and puts ‘Free Speech’ in scare quotes
CNN calls it controversial
WaPo also puts ‘free speech’ in scare quotes and declares that the counter protesters have shut the rally down
One free speech advocate, a woman, attacked by leftist mob, apparently 8 arrested.
Nowhere do I see the headline “Thousands protest against free speech, shut free speech rally down”. Imagine that.
Most of the campus anti free speech hate is directed at other leftists. Most of the time there isn’t a right or libertarian target the left is aware of. There simply aren’t enough Milos or Charles Murrays conveniently located.
The violent left will turn on the other leftists when they get tired of waiting for a target. It will be punch the loser of the victim Olympics.
Repost because the other thread ended:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/arts/music/blog/20972863/gaithersburg-tattoo-shop-kicks-openly-antisemitic-metal-band-off-bill
Going to see this band in Brooklyn tonite, guess I’m a Nazi.
The band are Mexicans. They hate Christianity AND Judaism. There’s a reason its called war metal.
Disclaimer: I am not a Nazi, please dont punch me
“There’s a fine line that I’m dancing on here,” Weschler (the shop owner) tells City Paper. “Being against religion as a whole is one thing, but when you get into … anti-Semitism, that’s kind of a race—that’s why we can’t have that here.”
That’s come Class A dumbassery right there.
This is what McCarthyism really looks like.
You know who else liked antisemitic music…
Larry David, Wagner fan?
Grand Belial’s Key? Arghoslent?
They venue cancelled the band.
She’s got a business to run, I guess.
Im pissed, tho???
Foxnews showing some of the protestors getting chippy with the cops
If course they lost their live feed right after my post.
Random glance at Gates of Vienna – been years since I regularly read/contributed. Interesting find.
Side note, I had forgotten that the Baron and others were in the C’Ville area – been a while since I last chatted with them – good local thoughts from them too.
That’s ridiculous-he wasn’t posting it as a pro-Nazi thing (that shouldn’t be illegal either). Germany really is screwed.
Germany was once on our short list of potential retirement locations – no more. Thanks for the link – I wasn’t aware of this site.
Neither Antifa nor white supremacists are all that noteworthy. They are tiny groups of people affecting no real politics who receive undue coverage from story seekers.
Except antifa got tens of thousands of people to show up downtown Boston to protest against free speech. Appears that the free speech rally never really even got off the ground due to fear. How much did that cost?
The actual reason it broke off early is neo-nazi speaker Kyle Champman was arrested yesterday in California and so couldn’t attend and deliver his talk about….er…. “free speech”.
So they had a 15 minute rally?
No violence was done and they have every right to protest whatever the fuck they want.
And yes it was a thinly veiled Nazi rally. Obviously.
we need to not allow our understanable and reasonable hatred of leftist idiocy get the best of of our faculties.
I had never heard of Champman. So he is “Based Stickman” I know see. Do you have any links to his “neo-Nazi” ideology? From my brief search he kind of sounds like a minor criminal douche bag who got videoed smashing some other douche bag over the head. Without proof of Nazi sympathies I am left to conclude he is being painted a Nazi because he stood up to antifa, therefore he is a Nazi. I think maybe we should not allow our understandable and reasonable hatred of Nazis let the media decide who a Nazi is.
*now see
Kyle Chapman is not a nazi. Not even close.
“it was a thinly veiled Nazi rally”
I don’t really know anything about the organizers. It was billed as such though. It was billed as a Free Speech rally. One might assume that such an event would attract people who were for Free Speech. I would certainly agree that the protesters have a right to peacefully protest. Antifa has shown a willingness to shut down events in the past, not just with numbers and signs but with violence and destruction and prison tactics like throwing urine on people. The acquiescence of their behavior by the authorities is disturbing. It did appear that Boston did handle the situation appropriately, at least as a few hours ago.
Speaker list on Facebook
Which ones are the nazis? I think I’m out of touch.
They’re all Nazis- duh.
They’re hiding under our beds… in our closets… and some of them are in the trunk of my car.
Are…are…
Are they sexy nazis?
Why yes, yes there are.
I see nothing. Nothing! Lol
It wasn’t even close to being a Nazi rally and your assertion that Chapman is one is way wrong. Sure he’s a stupid douchebag but you need to get your basic facts right if you’re going to weigh in with such certainty.
Obviously only NAZIs want free speech.
[citation needed]
Not sure why there to begin with
http://nbc4i.com/2017/08/19/odnr-removes-painting-of-confederate-general-from-state-park-lodge/
Not good enough. Burn down the house.
http://nbc4i.com/2017/08/19/worthington-removes-marker-memorializing-birthplace-of-confederate-general/
Not good enough, change the name of the city.
http://nbc4i.com/2017/08/18/group-calls-for-removal-of-christopher-columbus-statue-downtown/
From the New Yorker article Trsh linked to:
That is where I stopped reading and is the biggest problem with all this that I see. 1) The “radical right” does not have anymore power than they have ever had since the southern Democrats lost their power with the end of Jim Crow. 2) The SPLC is a farce and anyone who even uses them as a credible source loses all credibility. I am too lazy to look, but I am sure there are many legitimate groups on the hate list that do not support hate of any kind.
I still haven’t decided where I fit in the political spectrum between massive socialists who want to control every aspect of our lives (the left) and massive socialists want to control every aspect of our lives and are also racist (apparently “the right”).
Man it’s a tough call.
I think I’m just a somewhat racist so I’ll cAll myself a moderate.
NAZI
Nailed it.
Or, will people cut through the BS and hold both sides accountable for the increasing tension and violence?
Forecast: gloomy.
Or, will people cut through the BS and hold both sides accountable for the increasing tension and violence?
I’m confused by this. Who is the side opposing antifa/progs/SJWs?
If you’re talking about neo-nazis/KKK, I think you’re giving them way too much credit. They had 200 people show up to a national rally and are no way capable of increasing shit. I have greater fear of the local girls scout troop.
There is only one side accountable for the increasing tension and violence, and that’s the far left who’s on mission to ram their vision of utopia down America’s throat whether we like it or not. Resisting this vision is going to lead to increasing tension and violence when they are hell bent on demonizing every sane person against them.
girls scout troop? An Elite Hit squad maybe? What are they Scouting for? Troops? tell me more,
I think I face a significantly greater risk of early death from Thin Mints and Samoa’s than from those morons with tiki torches.
If i were to go to a “nazi” Rally, I wouldn’t be Caught Dead with a Tiki torch, Seriously?
That’s the Gayest thing I ever heard of, outside of Roem, Do these People have no Sense of self awareness at all?
You look like an IDIOT,
/Goes for First beer of the Day
I agree with your point about the nazis, except I also feel the same way about Antifa.
I used to live in constant fear of spoiled commie rich kids vandalizing the Starbucks in my neighborhood but I’ve moved past it.
Well, I guess it depends on if you view Antifa as an isolated group or as part of the larger leftist movement that has achieved almost destroying our health care system, gunned down Senate/House members, and beaten the shit out of regular Joes who have peacefully opposed them, including the homeless and old ladies, in multiple cities across the country.
Living in fear would be hyperbolic but I think it’s fair to say they have had a much greater impact than any alt-right group.
Also, other people who go to antifa counter protests who are not antifa are not grouped together with the actual club wielding antifa members. They are seen as just and good counter protesters. Where after the tiki vigil where there was a small number of actual klan, the next day more people showed up to protest the taking down of statues, but they were not said to be people for the preservation of history. They were all KKK members as far as the press was concerned. Guilt by association. Does my belief in constitutional free speech that is also held by some Klan dude mean I agree with his other beliefs? It does now. You are right. Antifa has had a huge effect thanks to the media.
Wear black, cover your face, shout stupid slogans and burn trash cans….yeah, I’d lump them in with antifa too.
There are a bunch of people at those things not wearing black or covering their faces. Stupid slogans though. Everybody has those.
Shitty recording of a good Song, try again,
Listening to the MSM right now on XM radio, I get the feeling a lot of them are upset that the Boston Rally went fairly smoothly with little to no violent confrontation. They so very badly wanted it to be a bloodbath.
“Kathy I’m lost ” I said, “though I knew she was sleeping. I’m empty, I’m aching, and I don’t know why.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFAoWwUwknc is a nice reminder of a time when we could acknowledge the ambiguity of America. That time was not ideal, but I am nostalgic for it.
“””“right wing” (read: non-Marxian) “hate group” (read: non-PC group)”””
No need to add non-PC — the neo-nazis and white supremacists that had their rally last weekend are most definitely bonafide hate groups. They are pretty much the poster children for hate groups, with good reason.
Hate group, shmate group. I despise that term. Don’t fall into that “But they are a hate group!” trap. It makes no difference what the group stands for. Antifa is adamantly opposed to freedom of speech and are using violence to shut it down. They are going after a reviled group now but they wont stop there. This is evident in their lumping anyone and everyone not perfectly in agreement with themselves in with the reviled groups.
Ironic twist: “First they came for the Nazis…”
Hate groups still have a right to speak — I 100% agree. The term hate group is applied too liberally but in this case it is an absolutely accurate description. And Trump wasn’t criticized for failing to explicitly call out a group that is simply non-PC, these are actual neo-nazis and white supremacists.
And make no mistake, the neo-nazis want antifa to lump everyone in with them. That is part of *their* strategy for worming their way in to the more mainstream right.
I am not aiming at you specifically. I am just troubled that a lot of people are missing that Antifa is not against nazis, they are against freedom of speech. They are just using attacks against a despised group as a Trojan horse. They are only going after them now because they can. The truth is that libertarians are at the top of their list. They have a white-hot hatred for libertarians, classical liberals and constitutionalists. We are their ultimate target.
Also, Trump did call them out. He also called out Antifa, which is why the left has so much sand in their pussy.
Step 1: establish that it is ok to punch a Nazi
Step 2: define a Nazi as everyone who disagrees with you
“””Will the escalating violence of Antifa be excused away as a righteous backlash against an evil President backed by a malignant social movement? “””
I have zero love for antifa, but the escalation to actual homicide came from the neo-nazis. It’s true that there was the shooting at the Republican baseball game. I’ll readily group attempted murder in with actual murder but its not clear to me how much that guy should be grouped with antifa. They do seem to come from a similar place, but AFAIK the shooter in that case wasn’t part of any (even loosely) organized movement.
The thing about these sorts of movements is anyone can join. I have no love for racist scum but out of all of the racist that showed up in Charlottesville, only one was a murderer. The rest were exercising their constitutional right to be assholes. The fact is that Antifa is an offshoot of a much larger movement on campuses to shut everyone one up. They have the backing of the media and the Democrats. I consider that a threat. Certainly, if the skinheads and the Klan had a significant membership roll I would consider them a threat and if I thought they had significant political power, I would be fighting them harder than the Marxist are. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. But after six months of organizing the best the racist could muster was enough people to barely fill a single restaurant. They are not a real threat politically or otherwise.
And the MLB supporter who killed the cops in Dallas. I’d say there’s definite overlap between the extreme wing of MLB and anti-fa.
BLM! Dammit, these fingers!
AFAIK, MLB isn’t as extreme as anti-fa or BLM. Can’t speak for all the major teams, of course.
Hodgkinson was a left wing activist that worked on Bernie’s campaign, was a never trumper, a climate activist and supported antifa front groups. He as as or more associated with left wing activist movements as Fields was with left wing white nationalists.
BTW re: my Serbian movie review a couple weeks ago – I did locate a link to amazon streaming video for it on amazon.co.uk – not sure if that works for folks outside the UK (ISP, etc) – but it’s a lot cheaper than importing the DVD and a region-free player – and *might* be a better video presentation. No idea. Link is pinned on my video.
Reuters Headline: “Thousands turn out in Boston to march against hate speech”
Missing from the story seems to be a single quote of any “Speech” at all from the actual rally organizers. The term “Far-right” was used a lot.
Well thank god thousands of people showed up to protest them, or else 2 dozen losers might have felt like they didn’t matter.
Sounds like a big hit. I had never heard of any of the speakers. I now know one of them is the famous Based Stickman, and one of them used to work for Alex Jones. Ya, I don’t think I am going out of my way to listen to either of those guys. 40,000 protestors is crazy.
The MSM keeps calling it a “Free Speech Rally” in scare quotes.
“There are literally no right wingers in Boston today and violence is starting anyway. Really activates the almonds”
https://twitter.com/Lauren_Southern/status/898963297860452354
Well, at least I haven’t heard the word “Russia” yet.
i am so old.
She seems to use that expression often.
I can only assume it is some sort of hyper-right-wing-racist code-language on the order of ‘glasses of milk’ or ‘ok-symbols’
Supposedly, it’s based on the Aboriginal practice of soaking nuts in salt water, then drying them. This spread to Australian health food stores. Because that makes them more healthy somehow.
i still have no idea what its supposed to mean. I will assume in context its being used close to ‘burns/chaps my ass’….
….according to this
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/activated-almonds
its just a meme-phrase with no set meaning other than as a hipster-nod
I don’t speak Canadian, but it sounds like she means “gets you thinking”.
Also, if I ever decide to fake my own death, I’m leaving this note:
“6.30pm: Emu meatballs.”
Amygdala is Latin for almond. She’s referring to an amygdala hijack.
From Wikipedia:
Curious. Maybe we could get her over here and ask her.
^Ask her to bring her sister
I am not sure if I am too old or not. I have no idea what that means.
“How to activate your nuts…”
https://www.movenourishbelieve.com/nourish/everything-you-need-to-know-about-activating-nuts/
aaahh, thanks. Also thanks for the link. There is an interesting cookie recipe in the sidebar.
Lauren Southern definitely activates my nuts
*rimshot*
Talk about low-hanging fruit.
What the F**K!!! My second video just got pulled and flagged. (my backup “clean” link is now up. I’ll update the video details when I’m not so pissed off).
And how is it still not even flagged, much less pulled on my dummy account? Because I didn’t use the movie name in the title? This is really pissing me off. Especially after watching Razorfist’s re-mastered Cobra review. I’m using clips from the freaking trailer. Good gravy.
I admit: i find your regular updates on this stuff a hilarious running joke. Its like every thread you come stumbling in, covered in soot and sweat, going, “HEY, MY SHIT IS ALMOST READY, JUST… TECHNICAL PROBLEMS….. HOLD ON A MINUTE….” then you go running out the door and there are sounds of steam engines and alarms and mooing cows and breaking glass and you poke your head back in and go, “CAN SOMEONE LEND ME A RAKE AND A FIRE EXTINGUISHER? AND DOES YOUTUBE BAN ANYTHING WITH GREEK SUBTITLES? I DONT…. UH OH….”
I lost it at “mooing cows”.
Well I had to leave for a meeting as soon as I made the last post. That said, thinking about it some more….I will appeal this one for a change. It’s only using the trailer (ripped from DVD, not someone else’s vid), and broken into 4 pieces with plenty of discussion of relevance, etc – which I think would lend it to fair use.
If some jagoff (read: many, many jagoffs) can rave over a stupid new release trailer with the entire thing playing on screen – albeit in a smaller window (my mistake maybe?) – why can’t I use a trailer in a full review?
I lost it at “CAN SOMEONE LEND ME A RAKE AND A FIRE EXTINGUISHER? ”
Ah…good stuff.
Topple White Supremacy!
http://nbc4i.com/2017/08/19/protesters-call-for-removal-of-christopher-columbus-statue/
Where does this shit end? 99.9 percent of people who have been put in statue form have probably not been absolute racial egalitarians.
What do you mean “Where does it end?”
Their stated goal is to destroy western civilization. It doesnt end.
I’m a “starve-the-beast” type Libertarian when it comes to government spending, so I generally avoid budget arguments along the lines of “wouldn’t it better if you used X money to pay for Y.” In the case of monument removal, I’d actually like to see some Mayor/Council stand-up, announce the cost of this activity and ask the protesters which program they want to cut.
Or tell them to pass the hat around, and when they have ten thousand dollars (or whatever ridiculous sum of money it would cost the city to do “proper” removal and moving to a different location), they can fill out this City Landmarks Reconsideration form and submit it to the county registrar. If they haven’t heard back for approval in sixty days they can write in to the office to find out its status. The wheels of bureaucracy should grind equally slowly for all.
Exactly. The lefties are the ones who always say with a sneer, “well if you don’t like it, vote to change it or shut up!“
The one dude standing there is carrying
I’ll give the editor of the local progressive weekly some credit: he did wonder how much incredibly scarce political capital the Arkansas Dem party was willing to torch and what could have been won with it.
Look at all those white people protesting white supremacy.
In other news, Blair White has boobs:
https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/898994312322535424
I’m but glad she’s happy with the results. But going through all those surgeries looks gruesome.
Never heard of her. She used to be a dude?
Yes. She is also an anti-SJW who is rather libertarian. Although I don’t think she calls herself that.
I will admit I didn’t watch the video. Her graphic warnings scared me off. Not my cup of tea.
Who?
A million gallons of ink spilled over Charlottesville violence but I’ve yet to see any media outlet put their crack team on finding out exactly who instigated actual violence against whom.
Surely with everyone and his mother shooting videos with their cell phones, it wouldn’t be impossible to cobble together a time-sequenced documentary. Did the neoNazis wade into the protestors? Or vice versa? Or was it one guy hitting another and his friend goes to help him, and etc etc like a bar fight?
you’ll not get it from the media either, because the media doesn’t do their job. All the media is concerned with is placing blame at the feet of their ideological enemies. The media has no interest in telling the story as is and allowing you to make your best judgement on it.
They don’t want to report what actually happened. They only want to spin.
If it were possible to determine that, someone would have, contrary to some (much/most?) local opinion the media isn’t exclusively one sided, there are outlets on both side that would love to prove that the other side ‘started it’. That you can’t find anything one way or the other tells me that there is no definite proof (or even suggestive non-proof) of either. Even with the ever present camera phones not everything is totally documented.
The counter protestors were having a Smurfberry jamboree when the Nazis rappelled out of white helicopters and dropped a car on some poor woman.
Congratulations on your internet coinage of the perfect description of leftist protest violence.
Trshmnstr,
Perhaps nobody else bothered to appreciate the photo of the nice young lady, but I thank you, and heartily.
I tried clicking on it to make it bigger. The picture, I mean.
These euphemisms.
Oh, the picture. Google Image Search is your friend:
“https://www.google.ca/search?sa=G&hl=en-CA&q=american+women+with+guns&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSlwEJv02CL_1c-cxAaiwELEKjU2AQaBAgDCEMMCxCwjKcIGmIKYAgDEijbDtwOnwXaDtkOsBm4GfIE9gTdDrY8rjyuMq884jvqJf0xxTypPK8yGjAqaV-vYlBIh0QtP4Y2VU2JPaJuSc6vpaqHaus7ppOxKlMjxf6zPINPctdNZWjXw0ogBAwLEI6u_1ggaCgoICAESBNKEoAQM,isz:m&ved=0ahUKEwjfxdrLruTVAhVC3GMKHQ7fDW4Q2A4IJigD&biw=1536&bih=843&dpr=1.25”>Yowza.
And yeah, that’s the best I could do.
Oh, crap. TOTAL LINK FAIL.
Let’s try again:
Yowza.
Thaaaaaat’s much better.
Thanks, it’s bigger now.
Ugh, Back Tat.
Yeah, I noticed that… the rest of the pics i found were either significantly worse or would’ve gotten our family friendly certification pulled.
Vox talks to some of the Free Speech rally attendees
I support managed speech.
Not much of a rallying cry, is it? (But it would fit right in with my fellow Canadians . . . )
It is only managed if you get a permit. The 40,000 person mob wanting to kick the other 100 peoples asses are not managed at all. You just have to put up a facebook page.
I have yet to find anything that links Chapman to any racist of bigoted speech. He is associated with McGinisses proud boys now I guess. Is McGinnis a white nationalist? I thought he was just really anti SJW. If that rally got 40,000 people to march to suppress it, we might be closer to losing our rights than we may like to think. I don’t know about a civil war, but I think that number of anti-free speech protestors to be a bit troubling. It does not help the fact that Vox and other media has no problem calling someone a bigot with no proof of it.
I don’t know this Chapman guy. But McInnes regularly kicks the shit out of leftists on the intertoobz, so of course they hate him. They hate anyone who doesn’t approve of their leftist feminist SJW bullshit. Just the same as the way they hate Milo because he’s a young gay guy who does not fit their narrative and won’t be quiet about it.
Chapman’s an alt-lite guy who’s known for showing up to various rallies with a stick, a football helmet, and a shield. Sure he’s a violent idiot but he ain’t no Nazi.
He’s not the stickman is he?
That’s the guy.
Some info on Chapman
Ya, I know McInnes is hated, but he is apparently the link to the white nationalists here as far as I can tell. I don’t know that much about him, but I am pretty sure he is not a white nationalist. I have been hand waving away them calling everyone racist and joking about it, but I am starting to agree with those here who have said we may be at a, “They came for the Nazis and I didn’t care……..” Because now it doesn’t even matter if you really are a Nazi. They can now mobilize 40,000 people to form a mob because they are convinced you are. That is a lot of people to me. There are not 40,000 people in the county I live in.
He explicitly rejects white nationalism and hard sells Western Civilization. Definitely not a white nationalist.
Ok, that brings back a McInnes you tube memory. That is why he is a racist to the mob. Western Civilization is code for “I hate brown people” as far as SJW speech goes.
McInness is NOT a white nationalist. He’s got some of that toxic masculinity that the leftist wussies don’t like and he’s quick witted and fearless. The guy is hilarious, you should check some of his stuff out. Here’s an enjoyable one that he made after the progs started saying they were going to move to Canada because of Trump:
Why you’re not moving to Canada
Up to 100 participants? How magnanimous.
Look, it’s the saddest little man in America, Frank ‘Hillary’s like a piece of Salmon and some dill’ Bruni.
Trump already resigned!
Little Frankey has went to his special playroom where big meanie Trump has already resigned and Hillary is still anointed Queen. Poor llittle Frankey, will he ever recover? Will he ever learn to write at more than a 5th grade level? Will he ever stop whining like a pathetic little pussy?
“Trump doesn’t respect them. He has sought to discredit and disempower the judiciary, the free press, the F.B.I., the Congressional Budget Office.”
Damn, we need to add his face to Mt. Rushmore.
I’m really starting to like this guy. We should just replace all the torn down confederate heroes statues with Trump statues. Better get those adult depends factories working overtime.
And Trump is the one with mental stability issues? Actually, he might be, but it seems that shoe fits on a lot of feet these days.
I think Trump’s more “crazy like a fox” than people give him credit for. Yes, he’s not the most articulate or intellectual person in the universe (by a long shot), but at least he knows what sells and is authentic by DC standards.
“YOUR TAX DOLLARS: Government Wasted Hundreds of Thousands on ‘Why LGBT People Drink’
Do you ever wake up and think “Today I’m going to blow $400k on strippers”? No? That’s because you don’t work for the government. And you’re not a class-a idiot. Pat yourself on the back back, next drink’s on the lesbian sitting nearest you. Why, you ask? Because rather than refund you this past April 17th, the government decided to drop several hundred grand studying the drinking habits of that same lesbian you’re sitting beside. Not to worry, government spends frivolously all the time. Studying the causes of lesbian pudge. Doling out millions of dollars in welfare for illegals. It seems they’ll never turn down a chance to part ways with tax dollars”
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/nih-study-gays-drink/
“Government Wasted Hundreds of Thousands on ‘Why LGBT People Drink”
I’m going to take a wild guess here and say that it’s the same reason that straight people drink, to socialize and get an alcohol buzz. That’s pretty easy to figure out when you’re not a piece of shit leftist who has to divide everyone up into special groups and see if you can stir up some racial or sex based hate. No study, no funds needed.
ugh, so denying their lived experiences.
I don’t deny mine. I can just talk myself into believing they were not all horrible mistakes if I have a few beers.
*slams beer*
HIGH FIVE!
Or because alcohol makes fat ugly chicks doable?
Stupid clickbait. Yep, the government funds studies into all sorts of things. /shrug
Fuck Steven Crowder, even when I fundamentally agree with him. He’s not helping.
I’ve fallen and I can’t get up: Social Media Edition
Holy shit.
1. Pull the chair into the pool.
2. Climb onto the chair.
3. Get out of the pool.
She was a little older and the ladder had broken off completely – some pools do have larger gaps between water and edge of the pool as well.
I don’t see how you can drag a chair into within arm’s reach without knocking something off of it unless it’s on a deck at the level of the pool height. And if it’s on the ground and you can reach the seat where a tablet would be then your pool wall isn’t that high. My plan would work.
2. Climb onto the chair.
What if the chair sinks a little? You’re still screwed.
Toss me a cigarette, I think there’s one in my raincoat.
From the hinterlands, I’ll toss in what I’ve learned. It matches what was said upthread. Nobody knows anything about antifa. And no, this will not change.
Here’s how I know this. We’ve all been following this for a couple of years now, so we are familiar with their tactics. So we can see it.
But in talking with average folk – not obsessively political folk – they don’t know who antifa is at all. They do know who Nazis are. And they know that the Nazis and white supremacists murdered someone in Charlottesville. If you mention that the antifa protesters came there specifically to disrupt the event with violence, you will not be heard. You will out yourself as a Nazi. You cannot show them this other aspect of the story, because they don’t want to hear it.
People who normally don’t follow politics too closely are following this. Closely. And they are only listening to CNN and MSNBC.
I have people close to me who know that I’m a Libertarian, that I was outspoken in my ridicule of Trump way, way back when he was on the original Apprentice season, that I have loudly lived a “diverse” lifestyle devoid of racial distinctions and I’ve actively fought actual, real-life racists in my day – people who really know me – those people have reacted to my nuanced take that Trump is basically right in saying that there is violence on all sides and condemning it by (angrily) declaring that I’m a racist Trump supporter.
They’ve hit the correct nerve with this one. There’s a large chunk of the population that cannot think rationally about this sort of thing anyway, and the media has completely washed away any hint of the initial assaults by the antifa folks. They’ve even whitewashed their existence. They are “anti-racist” protesters. Who could question the motives of someone who is opposed to racism?
No, this one is going down in cement, despite the rumblings all around that the police were given orders that would inevitably lead to a violent confrontation. Nobody is hearing these rumblings. Repeating them labels you a conspiracy theorist.
Once confirmation bias kicks in to high gear like this, the power of motivated reasoning will keep most people from ever being able to see this theater as anything other than what the left purports it to be. Get used to the new reality. There are actually millions upon millions of racist, Nazi, KKK members out there – and all of them are Republicans, led by Donald Trump. The Klan has never been more dangerous. They are literally everywhere. And they’ll kill you as soon as look at you.
No amount of “facts” are going to change that version of reality. You’ll not be getting them to see that the Klan is a couple of dozen inbred families and is run out of an aging single-wide trailer for many a year now. They just don’t want to believe it. They want to believe that there are millions of rampaging racists who are eager to follow the New Hitler.
“They want to believe that there are millions of rampaging racists who are eager to follow the New Hitler.”
Spot on. It’s amazing that they can be so willfully ignorant.
ask people to read this
http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/
You would think. But you’d be wrong. No self respecting leftie is going to read that. They aren’t even going to click on the link, in all likelihood. But if they do, they’ll conclude they are dealing with an avowed racist and Trump apologist before they finish the prologue.
Tribe-based motivated reasoning is impenetrable.