Thursday Morning Links

I’m gonna lead off by recognizing the Team Canada Blue Jays.  They have the weight of a nation on their shoulders. And while they’re in last place in a division, they’re in first place in the hearts of a nation.  A silly nation of poutine-eating, syrup-swilling flappy heads.  But a nation nonetheless that sits on America’s head.  Also, they won.  As did the Dodgers (unsurprisingly). The Rockies put up a huge number and beat the Braves. The Indians and the Twins got rained out. The Cubs beat the BIG RED MACHINE. The Red Sox beat the Cardinals. And the Astros have won two games in a row over the battling D-backs.

In other sports, Mayweather and McGregor agree to lighter gloves so Floyd can pepper his head up even faster. Nature Boy has some serious organ problems. And Chik-Fil-A surprises some people by announcing they will not open stadium venues on Sunday. Nobody in the south is the least bit shocked about this, as its been their company policy for over 70 years. And the revenue lost from their stadium location (a stadium that resembles a crunchwrap supreme by the way) pales in comparison the the revenue lost from their mall locations through the holidays. The decision was based on the morality of the owners and their desire for their employees to have at least one consistent days  week off to spend with their families. And I daresay it probably has a net positive effect on their bottom line when all is said and done.  Bravo.

I can’t think of something else sports-wise I may have missed. But I’m sure someone will remind me in the comments section after…the links!

Maury statue

In a shocking turn of events, the Virginia Democrat Governor encouraged all cities in the Commonwealth to tear down their confederate monuments and put them in museums.  I guess he had to say something after his false statements about a cache of weapons stored in Charlottesville by one group of assholes last weekend was refuted by the state police. But I don’t know how smart it is, calling for the removal of memorials that bring in a lot of tourist dollars and are a source of pride by the citizens of the Commonwealth for their architectural beauty and for their cultural significance.  In other words, this will not go over well.*

*Addendum: if they try to tear down anything on Monument Avenue, I humbly request a place to stay in Richmond that week since I will be there prepared to chain myself to one of them. This erasure of history to placate a mob the left has deliberately worked up into a frenzy needs to stop somewhere. And if I need to chain myself to the Matthew Fontaine Maury statue to help facilitate that, I’m seriously willing to do so.

NPR is preparing the left and the establishment right for disappointment regarding the Mueller investigation into Russian election interference. Only time will tell. But it can’t be comforting to those supporting the witch hunt to know that the lead FBI counterintelligence agent on the case has decided to step away from it.  Maybe its because he was a lead agent on the Clinton email investigation and isn’t too happy about the way that dog and pony show was handled by Comey and Lynch. Maybe its something else. I guess we won’t know until they wrap up…which could be any time they decide to stop investigating whatever they feel like investigating.  You know, because its open-ended and they can go wherever it leads them.

Speaking of Russia, this would be the biggest story of the day in a sane world. (No teasers!)

Alternative headline: No Shit. Seriously, this is the worst idea to come out of a California company since the Anakin Skywalker conception story.

::cough::BULLSHIT::cough:: I mean, they can say that. But we know they don’t really mean that.

Hope Hicks

The White House has a new communications director. Read about her here. Or just look at the pics, ya perverts.

Yeah, I hate em too. But this is a good song.

Alright, friends. Make today the best day you’ve had so far this week. That’s what I’m gonna try to do.

Comments

626 responses to “Thursday Morning Links”

  1. Just a thought not a sermon

    54) I saw some editorial or commentary the other day, maybe in the Washington Post but I couldn’t find the link, anyway, it was to the effect that Republican tax reform might seem like a good idea, but it would raise the deficit too much. The writer held that we really need are tax raises because there are so many needs and the US economy is strong enough to handle it.

    But it really hit me, that comment about the strength of the US economy. Let’s turn that thought around—if a 20% cut of the annual income from the biggest, richest economy the Earth has ever seen isn’t enough to fund all your little pet projects, maybe, just maybe, you’re the one that should start making some trade-offs?

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Yeah I think I can take any government budget and cut 20% of it while improving whatever services the population receive, hell just by cutting bureaucracy you safe money while improving the life of citizens. The thing is, though, there are governments that spend 50% and still no cut is possible. So many needs. And those needs never go down, not even when the economy is booming.

    2. SugarFree

      Look, OK, if we going to start requiring Washington Post writers to actually think and know stuff, we’re all going to end up crying in the shower every morning.

      1. I assumed we were all doing that anyway.

        1. Brett L

          Now that I work from home its 50/50 whether I shower in the morning.

          1. Private Chipperbot

            /nods approvingly while sitting in bathrobe at desk.

          2. Pope Jimbo

            Fancy boy. I’m sitting at my desk in just my grundies

          3. Tundra

            Hawt.

          4. Los Doyers

            Grundies? Actually, never mind. Doesn’t matter.

          5. Pope Jimbo

            It is actually pretty warm in my office Tundra. How did you know?

            That is why I’m even wearing grundies, so nothing sticks to the leather desk chair.

          6. AlexinCT

            Are grundies what an acquaintance once referred to as two-tone underwear? Yellow in the front, and brown in the rear?

          7. trshmnstr

            Good thing my officemate isn’t in today, because that made me laugh heartily!

          8. Hyperion

            Same

          9. Chipwooder

            You’re not fooling anyone. It’s more like 30/70, isn’t it?

          10. Brett L

            3 in 10 would be a good two week run, yes.

          11. Spartan Dad

            So I work from home too and got into the shower a little later one day. Heard my work cell ring and raced for it while getting dressed so was still just in my boxers. Answered it before realizing it was my older female boss requesting face-time.

            I’m almost certain I was able to cancel it before the video went through but will never be 100%. I check for facetime now before answering any calls.

            At the end of the day it’s not a big deal either way, my boss is extremely cool, but stings a bit when you’re trying to keep your aura of professionalism up while working remotely. Reminds me of the Dilbert strip where he video chats in with a Dilbert puppet wearing a suit while he’s in a dirty bathrobe.

          12. The Sleeper

            Is there any other kind of bathrobe?

          13. Hyperion

            That’s what wives are for, duh.

          14. BigT

            ‘aura of professionalism’

            These euphemisms!!

          15. trshmnstr

            Based on the article yesterday, Spartan is a bigot. Professionalism is too cisfor our queer friends.

          16. Obligatory: Is she hot?

        2. SugarFree

          Look, I just got soap in my eye! Soap! [runs away]

  2. Just a thought not a sermon

    “I’m gonna lead off by recognizing the Team Canada Blue Jays. They have the weight of a nation on their shoulders.”

    Where have you gone, Roberto Alomar?
    A nation turns its lonely eyes to you
    woo hoo hoo

    1. Just a thought not a sermon

      By the way, for this little joke, I had a really tough time finding a player who’s closely associated with the Blue Jays and played a long time there. Does Toronto have an equivalent to Ernie Banks or Mickey Mantle, somebody like that, who played his whole career in one place and was the face of the franchise? George Bell maybe?

      1. Raven Nation

        This guy maybe? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Fern%C3%A1ndez

        And, even though he was only there for 6 years, Joe Carter?

      2. Chipwooder

        Dave Stieb, I guess? Most underrated pitcher of the 1980s.

        1. Stieb was my first thought as well.

      3. Chipping Pioneer

        Carlos Delgado

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Er, show what you know.

      Fuck the Blue Jays and fuck the Nationals.

      Expos or NOTHING.

      Well, the Dodgers. The Royals were their farm club so…I’ll keep it in the family.

      Watched them come from behind last night. White Sox manager Renteria micro-managed the 9th and took it in the teeth.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        shows

      2. BigT

        Le grande orange!

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Heh. Mack Jones! Rock, Kid, Hawk, Scoop!

      3. mr simple

        You mean the Senators?

      4. bacon-magic

        The separatists raise their flappy heads, eh!

  3. Juvenile Bluster

    IIRC, because of contractual issues, the Chick-Fil-A at Atlanta airport is open Sundays. It’s the only one that is.

    And sure, let’s concentrate on a damn Chick-Fil-A not being open at a football stadium on Sundays when it’s a billion dollar stadium paid for by public money when their old stadium was only 20 years old.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Fried chicken is bad for you and you should not eat it. Try a nice piece of fruit instead. Or eat a carrot.

      1. Not after where that carrot has been.

      2. Negroni Please

        Shut your mouth. As a dirty foreigner I can only assume you’ve never tasted Chick-Fil-A. It is glorious.

        1. I’ve had their food twice. Once somewhere in western North Carolina at lunchtime, where I was both surprised at how busy it was, and how quickly they produced by order (I had barely started waiting when it came up)

          The second time was In hunstville when there didn’t seem to be any options for 6am breakfast.

          Both times I was satisfied with the food quality.

          1. Negroni Please

            This right here is all anyone needs to know. Even UCS likes Chick-Fil-A. Their food has been blessed by Jesus. Their chicken nuggets are Snackraments

        2. Slammer

          They always have the most polite and efficient employees. Everytime I’ve eaten there the service was outstanding.

          1. Chipwooder

            They are very particular about their franchisees. It’s expensive as hell to buy in, and you are contractually obligated to make it your primary business. You can’t just buy one and be an absentee owner, you have to be hands-on.

          2. Brett L

            I heard apocryphally, and I’m not going to bother confirming that the founder’s one sentence success plan is: “If you aren’t serving the customer, you better be serving someone who is.”

            That’s a pretty simply guideline to “am I doing my job right now” that anyone can follow.

        3. Spartan Dad

          I’ve always been impressed with how well that operation is run. Good food, clean restaurants, and better service than I’ve received in most sit down restaurants. I remember going in one time at about 9:30 one morning and asking hopefully if they were serving lunch yet (not a big breakfast fan when I’m out of the house). The girl responded without hesitation that they’d make whatever I’d like if i didn’t’ mind waiting a few minutes. The service has always impressed me.

          1. Juvenile Bluster

            I once went at about 10:30, right when they were switching over from breakfast to lunch, and ordered lunch. When I got to the drive-thru window the cashier asked me if I wanted a free breakfast chicken biscuit as well.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            Their in store service is probably tops of any of the fast food chains. Bring the food to your table, along with any extras/condiments you’d like, regular passes back through to make sure everything is ok & ask if you’d like a refill on your drinks, along with keeping the whole thing clean (wiping tables, sweeping & mopping floors, picking up litter, straightening chairs & tables).

          3. Chipwooder

            There was one near the beach in Destin that I would pass by frequently for work, and thus often patronized. Every time I was ever there, it was the manager who stopped by to ask if I needed anything or refill my drink. That was pretty damned impressive.

          4. Ayn Random Variation

            This place sounds like a meth distribution front.

          5. DTX

            It’s one of the few restaurants I’ll commit to waiting in a long (usually, really long) drive-thru line for because I know the line will move/flow quickly.

            Lone complaint – the bastids stopped serving Cole Slaw at my go-to location. Don’t they know I want everything I want?!?

        4. PieInTheSKy

          This is microaggression. I demand the blog owners protect my safety. THIS BLOG ALLOWS LITERALLY VIOLENCE PEOPLE

  4. The stupidity is spreading…

    Business closes as owner is accused of being Nazi, white supremacist

    Facebook users have been calling on others to stop patronizing VanArsdale’s business, a craft beer specialty tavern. And one or more called for a protest outside the business. That was to begin at 3 p.m. Wednesday but never materialized.

    VanArsdale, 43, has seen a barrage of message shares on Facebook, in which he is called a racist, a Nazi and/or a white supremacist. Those began at about 6 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 15, and involve two images that he had posted on his personal Facebook account in 2011, he said.

    One shows him throwing up a Nazi salute and another shows him with a Nazi swastika finger-painted on his forehead. He said the first was done in humor and the second was Photoshopped, but also done in humor.

    “I had distasteful pictures up. I get it,” he said. “I’m guilty (of that). It was in bad humor. But I’m not a racist.”

    He said the pictures were taken six years ago during a tailgate party before a University of Notre Dame football game in South Bend, Ind. He said he has a wry sense of humor and is sometimes not politically correct.

    He has deactivated his personal Facebook account as well as the Facebook account for his business, called Craft Draft 2 Go.

    1. Was his place the “Putsch Beer Hall”?

    2. Suthenboy

      This is not going to play well for them. Having their useful idiots screaming “Nazi!” in the face of anyone not in lockstep with the radical left is going to cause the Dems to get their asses handed to them in the midterms. I guess they can make up for it by smashing historical monuments and whitewashing history.

      Listen Dems, last year when I was encouraging you to double down on your moronic strategies I didn’t mean quadruple triple extra double down, but hey, I am not going to stop you.

      1. Private Chipperbot

        whitewashing

        Nazi! Points!

        1. Suthenboy

          I was hoping someone would pick up on that.

      2. Schnirt Gurgleburger

        What does it matter? The current crop of Republicans are a bunch of useless limp-dick cowardly establishment fucks.

        1. R C Dean

          That seems . . . accurate.

        2. Los Doyers

          Cuck, for short?

        3. Hyperion

          It matters when they get their sorry asses primaried.

        4. Hyperion

          I really want to go to Arizona and start knocking geriatric old retards off their huvaround for voting for McCain.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            That’s cruel. Appropriate, but cruel.

      3. JaimeRoberto

        Lockstep? Like a goose step?

    3. PieInTheSKy

      I have actually seen cases where these internet activists dig through years of Facebook posts to find something that may be interpreted as racist. How this people have the time and energy to dot his is beyond me.

      1. JD

        They don’t have jobs.

        1. Negroni Please

          Obviously. I mean no one with a job has the time to fuck around on the internet all day. Right guys?

          1. JD

            Not having jobs and DO YOU PEOPLE EVER WORK are two different things.

    4. Brasidas

      A fun exercise in probability.

      The probability of a person being a Nazi is 0.002
      Your Nazi detector has a probability of accurately determining if someone is or is not a Nazi of 0.98.

      How many false Nazis will you find for every true Nazi?

      1. Negroni Please

        *scratches head*

        YOU’RE a Nazi.

        1. Brasidas

          *scribbles furiously*

          Carry the two…

          Dammit, I am!

      2. trshmnstr

        Roughly 10:1 right? You’re gonna find about 20 fake nazis in a sample of 1000, and you’re likely going to find both the real ones.

        1. trshmnstr

          Of course, the real number of true nazis is closer to 0.00001 and the false positive rate appears to be close to 45%

    5. Rufus the Monocled

      Really? Is this how the left is going to play it?

      Wes Bellamy – look him up.

      Let the ‘marks for death’ begin.

      This is not a good trend….at all.

      1. Chipwooder

        Oh don’t even get me started on that sanctimonious piece of shit Wes Bellamy. There’s your Charlottesville government right there.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I had forgotten about that asshole. I would not be surprised if he were somehow involved in pushing the two groups of protesters into direct contact.

    6. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They’re afraid of Trump because they see themselves in him. If they had power, you know what they’d do with it.

    7. Pope Jimbo

      Proggie diner in Minneapolis fired two employees for wearing nazi uniforms in FB photo.

      One photo shows a group of five people wearing Nazi uniforms posing in front of a mirror; two of them worked at the diner. Other photos showed the workers holding up a “Don’t Tread on Me” flag, which some have co-opted for the white supremacy movement.

      So is the Gadsen flag really a white supremacy symbol now?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        It should also be noted that some people have said that the employees weren’t Nazis but were part of a historical reenactment. No idea if that is true or not. Neither does the diner, but…

        Originally, the diner said the status of the employees was under review. But after the backlash on social media, the restaurant around 7:30 p.m. said, “These individuals are no longer employed at the Uptown Diner.”

        I wonder though, what will happen to all those nerds out there who are into civil war reenactment shit. Will they all be fucked some day because there is a photo out there of them dressed up as Johnny Reb?

      2. SugarFree

        Libertarians like the Gadsden Flag
        Libertarians are white men.
        White men are racist.
        White Supremacists are racist.
        Therefore…

        1. DOOMco

          This is really it. we are not safe as libertarians, we are next.

    8. mexican sharpshooter

      I had distasteful pictures up. I get it.

      Right.

      Once in college I went as a terrorist for Halloween. I had a OD shirt, I put a towel on my head and I took advantage of AZ open carry laws and slung an AK. While it was distasteful, I was smart enough to take it of my Facebook page close to graduation when it became apparent the picture might affect me professionally.

  5. Just a thought not a sermon

    “In a shocking turn of events, the Virginia Democrat Governor encouraged all cities in the Commonwealth to tear down their confederate monuments and put them in museums.”

    Wow, I take it that after his term is over, Terry McAuliffe has no intention of remaining in the state.

    1. No. He plans on moving into a posh residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, just across the river.

      This was a move to stir up the base, and basest, Dem voters.

      1. Just a thought not a sermon

        Ha ha ha ha That might be his plan, but he’d better have a back-up plan in his pocket.

      2. A Fuggin White Male

        How far is that from the Port of Charlottesville?

    2. Chipwooder

      well, he wasn’t really a Virginian before he was in office, so I doubt he cares.

  6. Brett L

    FHP Ticket Quotas: Upon reading the story, I see that they will actually be training FHP troopers not to say the word “quota” or talk about there being a certain number of tickets they are supposed to write, but we all know the actual day-to-day shift managers are going to be like this.

  7. Alternative headline: No Shit. Seriously, this is the worst idea to come out of a California company since the Anakin Skywalker conception story.

    Open office plans are evil, and hurt the ability to concentrate. It can also drive up your stress level to a health-damaging degree if you’re an introvert who likes privacy. I know, a badly placed cubicle almost led me to a mental breakdown. The best I could do was get moved to the corner with less traffic flow.

    1. Oh, and I’m gonna need that.

      ::reaches for UCS’s red Swingline stapler::

      1. *stabs Sloopy’s hand with a letter opener*

        The state does not provide office supplies, everything here I bought with my own money.

        1. Actually they do – but the state-furnished supplies are so crappy they are not fit for purpose in most cases.

          (Going through an entire box of pens to find the one that at least half-works is not uncommon. I used a vendor-ogo pen for years because it actually worked, and the ones on my desk now were swiped by a consultant from a Mariott)

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Its not much better with the Feds. If you need something it makes more sense to walk across the street and buy your own office supplies rather than put in the “proper forms” to request office supplies that will show up during the September spend-a-thon.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            You don’t like pens made by the blind??

            (I actually like Skilcraft ballpoint pens, enough to order a couple boxes for personal use. Only thing is they eventually unscrew themselves in my pocket. Currently using Pentel gel pens (with caps) as my everyday pen lately)

          3. mexican sharpshooter

            I think that’s a DOD thing. At least I haven’t come across products made by the blind in a couple years.

            I write with small, tortured strokes that requires a fine tip, so its Uniball Signo Micro .5mm for me.

          4. I’m Here To Help

            All we get are the lovely Skilcraft. I buy my own and bring them into the office.

            Funny, somewhat related story. I was the first employee of my agency in a new office they set up overseas. When I got there it was basically four walls and a door, and I had to scrounge for everything we had in that office. I emailed my boss back in DC asking for him to request our supply office send over a bunch of pens/paper/notepads/etc. We had a room in our headquarters filled to the brim.

            A couple weeks later I got a box in the mail. It was filled with 250 green Skilcraft pens and 10,000 of those old, pink phone message pads (preprinted with the spaces for the caller’s name, phone number, time of call, etc). I found that especially ironic as they hadn’t bothered to set up our phones…

    2. *I see that apple is going with the “You’re not even good enough for cubicles” open plan – which is even worse.

      1. AlexinCT

        Know several companies that went with this open space nonsense a few years back that are now quietly and in a hurry reverting to cube farms because of the abysmal effect on morale, quality of work, employee’s state of mine, and work place conflicts that the idiotic open space work environment caused. Problem is that some decision makers that are behind the times are just now seeing all the nonsense touting the success of open spaces and implementing it, even as the people that wrote that garbage are moving away from it.

        1. WTF

          Management tends to like open space plans because:
          1) They can get more bodies per square foot
          2) They are exempt from it and get to keep their offices.

          1. AlexinCT

            You forgot 3.

            3) Management loves to make the people that actually do work uncomfortable, especially in IT, because they want to keep that high school cafeteria dynamic alive now that the nerds they used to make fun of or pick on are actually the ones that determine their success or failure..

          2. Ayn Random Variation

            3) they can watch what everybody is doing.

            The open office space I was in a few years ago at a big bank was a real joy on the annual lay off day. Talk about a walk of shame.

        2. Open tables were well-ridiculed in the BBC series W1A — at the BBC itself.

      2. trshmnstr

        We’re moving to an open plan in a few months. While that may be fine for sales (who are never in the office), we’re all on the phone all day in legal. If work from home wasn’t severely frowned upon, nobody would actually show up at this new place. As it is, we’re all going to be camping out in the conference rooms.

      1. No, the basements are where the Building Managers set up their man caves.

        1. AlexinCT

          With flashlight and cans of roach spray?

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I know some people who work there and they hate the new Steve Jobs Ego Monument.

      It’s also a laughingstock among the construction trades because of the specs that Apple put on dimensions, fits, etc…. As I understand it, the doors were specified to the 32nd of an inch. It’s like they were trying to get iPhone type fit and finish on a building.

    4. PieInTheSKy

      Meh I have never worked other than open plan offices so I don’t even know alternatives

      1. Private Chipperbot

        I’ve worked via home office for more than a dozen years. 30 second commute. I have to travel a bit for meetings and such, but you’ll never hear a complaint.

        1. Just switched to working at home. Love it. I do head to the local library every once in awhile just for a change of scenery but all in all it’s been great for me.

    5. Brasidas

      The wifi at my old cube farm job would reach to the cemetery behind the building, so I spent a lot of time out there in the quiet.

    6. Mythical Libertarian Woman

      Just the thought of it makes me feel antsy. I could never, never work in an environment like that. It’s absolutely designed with extroverts in mind. I’d think that in a tech industry, there’d be a higher proportion of introverts? But not in management, I’m sure.

      1. DTX

        “But not in management”, indeed. You’ll find them in their offices. Their nice, quiet, private offices.

  8. Slammer

    And the Yankees (a streaky team for sure), have won 3 in a row.

    And Judge hit this absolute BOMB against the Mutts

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      And he tied the record for most consecutive games with a strikeout by a position player!

      1. Slammer

        We’ll probably lose the Wid Card game one of two ways: Judge striking out on a slider 3 feet off the plate, or Chapman blowing the Save. Whatever, we have a good future. We’ll get Bryce Harper or Manny Machado.

      2. Chipwooder

        Contrived record – who even knew it existed before a few days ago?

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          /r/baseball has been counting it down for the last 10 days.

          He’s 3 away from the overall record (held by a pitcher)

          1. Private Chipperbot

            Saw last night that Joey Gallo basically has a 50/50 chance to hit a homerun when he connects for a hit. Highest % in league history.

      3. robc

        Does he walk enough to be the new God of the Three True Outcomes?

        1. Chipwooder

          Why yes, he does. Leads the league with 88.

          That’s what is rather silly about this – when he doesn’t strike out, he tends to do awesome things. ..291/.420/.614, 37 bombs.

          1. robc

            Leads in HR, walks, and only 5 behind in Ks. He has a chance to win the TTO triple crown.

  9. PieInTheSKy

    I don’t have much of a dog in this fight but I don’t see taking down monuments as erasure of history, to be honest

    1. Maybe its because I spent so much of my life in Richmond. But that street, and those monuments, and the cemeteries…that is the history of Richmond as much as Church Hill or Shockoe Bottom is. It matters to those people. It matters to me.

      But I could be wrong.

      1. Chipwooder

        I can already see where all this is going, and it’s not going to be pleasant.

    2. westernsloper

      I tend to agree. Having grown up in the west and my only east coast time being in FL, I don’t get it but it is not part of my life. This is why I say it is up to the communities and not an outsider who does not live there or have any connection to the heritage. I would say I lean toward opposing it because I do not think it will stop with confederate monuments. Where it would stop, I have no idea.

      1. Bob Boberson

        If the left has their way it will stop when Mao and Che face each other at the National mall

        1. BigT

          Why not? We already have a guy who sent 70,000 Nips to concentration camps.

      2. Hyperion

        It stops when western culture has been completely destroyed and capitalism is dead. That’s the goal.

        1. AlexinCT

          ^^^So much this^^^

          There is a very apt and descriptive term for what the international socialists behind this movement are doing: year zero.

          You tear down everything that defines a society, and you then have a blank slate and people that wouldn’t know any better on which to imprint your always murderous evil and global socialism system.

    3. xenophon

      Personally I think it’s less about history and more about identity. Lefties and coastals are doing everything they can to fracture and poison anything remotely related to a Southern identity; damnatio memoriae is the logical next step. Part of the motivation is political (breaking up or at least weakening the Solid South) and part of it is because they’re assholes whose ideas of diversity are literally skin deep and thusly Can’t Even with wrongthinkers like me who 1) refuse to accept responsibility for something that happened 150 years ago before my ancestors were even in the country 2) believe that identity politics is a cancer that will rot this country from the inside 3) thinks best way to help black people (and, hell, white hillbillies too) is to stop pouring welfare into their communities and start making business regulations less onerous 4) bitterly cling to guns and God.

      1. Brett L

        I’ve been thinking about this a lot. I think monuments remembering the fallen of the area are fine, monuments depicting a leader of a failed rebellion whose causus belli hinged in large part about how long slavery would continue and how it would unwind is something I don’t care about. It’s like putting up statues of James Stuart and talking about it being part of your cultural identity in England. I’m coming around to not care if there are statues or not.

        Do I think the US will suddenly be free of racists in the generation after the last statue is pulled down? No. There’s no statues of Hitler and there are neo-Nazis in Germany. The statues aren’t really the point. But damned if I can figure out why I’m spending an ounce of energy defending the statue of any Top. Man.

        1. They only want to ban smoking on airplanes, why should I get involved?

          1. Gustave Lytton

            That boarding door closed thirty years ago.

          2. It was an analogy. “Why should I care about statues of top men?” – “Because they won’t stop there.”

          3. R C Dean

            “Why should I care about paintings of Top Men?”

            “Why should I care about photographs of Top Men?”

            “Why should I care about books about Top Men?”

          4. BigT

            Becuz you secretly wannabe a Topp Mann?

          5. Uh, is smoking different than statues?

            Would seem like it.

          6. R C Dean

            More than one slope can be slippery.

        2. Winston

          I think monuments remembering the fallen of the area are fine

          Um aren’t they already targeted?

          a leader of a failed rebellion whose causus belli hinged in large part about how long slavery would continue and how it would unwind

          Except they are going after Taney and Calhoun. And Washington and Jefferson rebelling to create a slave state and expand slavery is okay.

          Also reminds of Europe trying to clamp down on any regional sentiment. Including rebellions with non-pc sentiment.

          1. R C Dean

            Um aren’t they already targeted?

            The only statue removed, personally, by the mob so far was exactly that.

        3. Gadfly

          …monuments depicting a leader of a failed rebellion…

          This is where it gets tricky for me, as while I am generally against tearing down long established monuments I can sympathize with removing the statues to leaders of causes you find distasteful. Personally, I’d be fine with the current impulse for damnatio memoriae if it was only being applied to Jefferson Davis (the leader) but I disagree with it being applied to the various generals, even though they had some leadership capacity. I think we need to be fine with the (old) idea of having respect for opponents who had some redeeming qualities, even if we don’t like what they fought for. Saladin was respected by many Crusaders, and many Allied leaders had respect for Rommel, so surely we can have respect for some of the more honorable generals of the CSA.

        4. wdalasio

          I get your point. But, it strikes me that the case of R.E. Lee is a special case. In addition to his obvious valor on the battlefield, you get the entire issue of his post-bellum career. This is a guy who could have gone on as a guerrilla, and could have extended the war for an extended period of time. He didn’t. He surrendered with dignity and accepted the outcome of the war. This is a guy who could have bought into post-bellum racism. Instead you get this story:

          One Sunday at St. Paul’s Episcopal Church in Richmond, a well-dressed, lone black man, whom no one in the community—white or black—had ever seen before, had attended the service, sitting unnoticed in the last pew.

          Just before communion was to be distributed, he rose and proudly walked down the center aisle through the middle of the church where all could see him and approached the communion rail, where he knelt. The priest and the congregation were completely aghast and in total shock.

          No one knew what to do…except General Lee. He went to the communion rail and knelt beside the black man and they received communion together—and then a steady flow of other church members followed the example he had set.

          He could have retreated into stardom within the South with utter contempt for Yankees. Instead, as President of Washington University, he recruited Northern students and ensured that they were treated as part of the student body by other students.

          So, you have a strange set of circumstances. So many of the statues honoring him were put up by people who didn’t get the full value of the memorial he deserved. And so many of the people wanting to tear his statues down failing to recognize that which they are dishonoring.

    4. spqr2008

      I don’t have much of a dog in this fight either (Ohio born and bred), but like John, I appreciate history. I also, like Trump, do not see that the taking down of Confederates will stop with Confederates, since the goal of the left is a year zero (hey, just like ISIS!). Additionally, I think that these statues are works of art that should be preserved in some manner, like Nazi and Soviet Propaganda, as historical artifacts. My opinion is if locals would like these statues moved, each city should find its least used park space, and gather them all there, in a statuary garden, like the ones in Moscow and many other former Communist cities. Does Romania have something like that, Pie?

      1. Chipwooder

        I don’t really have much either – although I’ve lived in Richmond for a long time, I was born in NY. When we moved down here, my dad used to joke that Monument Avenue should be renamed Losers Lane. My feelings about this isn’t really based on the statues, it’s a combination of:

        1)What purpose does this serve? Are black families magically going to be lifted out of poverty when they no longer have to occasionally glimpse large pieces of iron shaped like Stonewall Jackson and Jeb Stuart? Why is it that no one seemed particularly put out about the statues ten years ago but now it’s supposedly this pressing, urgent issue?
        2)You can easily add new statues and memorials to show a more complete view of history. Makes more sense than pretending that none of it ever happened. Hell, they just put up a statue of Maggie Walker here (founded first black-owned back in the US).
        3)The Civil War is pretty much the only reason any tourists come here in the first place. Undercutting that seems less than wise for a medium sized city that’s always agonizing on how to grow more.
        4)Where does it end? For crissakes, you have lunatics trying to dig up NB Forrest’s body – doesn’t anyone (outside of the sensible Glib community, of course) see how fucking unhinged that is? Like I said yesterday, are we to rip up every Confederate cemetery, smashing the headstones to bits and grinding the bones of the dead into dust? Tearing down Monticello or the Washington Monument? What will satisfy the mob? Spoiler alert! Nothing will.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I’m not emotionally attached to the monuments. I am emotionally attached to the lack of mob rule and the first amendment.

          1. Chipwooder

            Precisely.

          2. That’s my take as well. There’s one slated to come down about two miles from my house, and there will almost certainly be another Charlottesville as a result. I couldn’t care less about the statue; if they said they needed the space for a fountain I’d shrug and move on. I care that a small group of people are cynically using race as a lever in order to force their will on others, and I care that they’re almost certainly doing it in order to provoke violence.

        2. stilljustcarol

          Anonymous just announced that they are going to tear down ten statues tomorrow. One of the ten is in Lakeland, FL, not terribly far from me. I’ve never seen the statue and don’t have any particular affinity for Civil War statues despite having lived the vast majority of my life in the South but I find the idea of people destroying statues sickening. People seem to think that by destroying historic statues that they are somehow changing history. They aren’t changing it they are denying it and that strikes me as lazy, foolhardy, and dangerous. I won’t claim that we are a “color blind” society but up until recently we were getting darned close. Now it feels like it is all going to shit and we’re moving backwards. The Right is far from perfect but I fucking hate the Left. Their whole mode of operation is stirring up discontent.

          1. AlexinCT

            The Taliban and ISIS also share the same need to destroy historical monuments that they feel impede their agenda as these people, and we should be doing more to point out that no matter how noble the people doing this pretend their cause is, the end goal is to destroy identity so they can then impose something dark and likely evil.

      2. The sons of confederate veterans should offer to take the statues.

    5. Well, I think part of the creepiness about it is the stated motivation. It’s basically, “Confederates hated black people and statues of them promote racism.” It’s the latest of a lengthy effort to turn our historical understanding of the American Civil War into something like, “Southerners loved slavery because they were evil racists, so Northerners went to war against the evil rednecks to free black people.” They gloss over what was a long series of events driven by multiple and complex forces and try to reinterpret it as a modern fable about civil rights. In a way, you could say they’ve been working to appropriate the history of the civil war for use as a weapon in modern politics. John’s earlier, excellent piece about this all being about using white guilt for political gain is absolutely true.

    6. antisthenes

      I don’t care much about the immediate issues of the statues either, even as someone raised in the South, but I am concerned (1) about the trend, which bears uncomfortable resemblances to other ugly periods of history, and (2) that it’s all targeted at erasing a particular cultural identity despised by blue-staters. It’s not like there were plenty of other horrible people throughout history who get statues.

      1. Gadfly

        It’s not like there were plenty of other horrible people throughout history who get statues.

        Until the statue smashers are also targeting the Lenin statues in America, I will remain staunch in my belief that they have impure motives.

        1. BigT

          And that guy who sent 70k Japs to camps?

          Or the guy who segregated the Civil Service?

          Or the guy who was Grand Dragon in the Klan?

          1. Gadfly

            FDR and Wilson I recognize, but who’s the third fellow? If it’s supposed to be Byrd, I don’t think he was ever a Dragon, just an enthusiastic Klansman in his youth (yes, I’m being a pedant, but small details often trip people up).

          2. R C Dean

            Per Wiki, Byrd formed a KKK chapter and was its leader.

          3. R C Dean

            I want someone in West Virginia to introduce a bill to strip Robert Byrd’s name from every building that it is on.

            Or perhaps, someone in DC introduce a bill to stop any federal money from going to any state that has a monument of a slave-owner or Confederate, a building named after one, or a building named after a KKK member.

            Call their fucking bluff already.

    7. trshmnstr

      I live about 10 minutes away from Manassas battlefield, and my wife and I spend a ton of time walking the trails and viewing the monuments in the park. If you took the Confederate monuments out, a piece of the place’s soul would be missing. Flattening the Civil War into “the grand Union” versus “the devil himself and his slave murdering Confederates” kills the most compelling part of the story. The history of the Civil War is is so compelling because it’s so easy to identify with parts of both sides.

  10. Private Chipperbot

    Let the banning begin – Apple and Spotify to ban deplorables.

    A Spotify spokesperson said: “Illegal content or material that favours hatred or incites violence against race, religion, sexuality or the like is not tolerated by us. Spotify takes immediate action to remove any such material as soon as it has been brought to our attention.

    Just curious if 2 Live Crew will still be available.

    1. or the like

      I seriously doubt political ideology or aversion to mass-murdering communists and socialists falls under this.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        That sounds like Nazi talk to me.
        *points finger and hisses Invasion of the Body Snatchers style*

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Let the policing of content begin. I don’t think they’re going to like carrying that burden and what it implies.

      1. Private Chipperbot

        I expect a hand wave from them. The retort as to what are they doing about rap that demeans women or glorifies drug violence will be met with ‘Nazi!’

    3. JaimeRoberto

      So Rage Against the Machine will no longer be available?

  11. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Nazi (I know, doesn’t matter) who chained himself to a statue is in intensive care tonight and might not make it. Film at 11.

    1. So the score will be 1-1? That’s all that matters, isn’t it?

    2. xenophon

      Linky?

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Hypothetical headline for Sloopy doing it.

        1. That was unclear, perhaps a quote beforehand to let us know you were referencing something from this thread rather than introducing new content?

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            My bad.

        2. xenophon

          Oh. Duh. haha

  12. Slammer

    I love the Eagles, man.

    Newdeath metal from the masters of the genre.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    That’s a chimp who’s going to grow up to be a face eater.

  14. Just a thought not a sermon

    The Grateful Dead? The Eagles? Steve Miller?

    Oh, I get it. Good songs by bands everybody hates. I guess tomorrow will be Limp Bizkit, if you can find a single good song.

    I’ve always had the idea that if I’m ever in a band, we’ll do a 45-minute cover of “Take it To the Limit One More Time” where we just keep on takin’ it to the limit until the entire audience leaves.

    1. Then it won’t take 45 minutes.

      Also, be sure to erect a chicken-wire barrier between you and the crowd.

        1. Chipwooder

          We have both types – country AND western.

    2. For years ‘n’ years, I thought the Grateful Dead were some super psychedelic band – based on the number of acid tripping hippies that followed them around.

      And then I heard Box of Rain – and found that it’s just pleasant Americana.

      1. Just a thought not a sermon

        Yeah, I don’t want to get too much into the Dead here because I see they were discussed pretty thoroughly yesterday, but I’ve always found them okay, though a little mystified by the dedication some people have for them. I like the From the Mars Hotel album pretty well.

      2. mr simple

        I missed the discussions yesterday, so I don’t know what was said, but they’re a poor man’s Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young.

      3. BigT

        I like the Dead because I’m a Friend of the Devil.

      4. trshmnstr

        Same here. I grew up near an amphitheater, so the deadheads would take over my town every summer. I assumed that the Dead were echoes of Woodstock.

    3. bands everybody hates.

      Don’t forget Springsteen on Monday.

      Damn, I was gonna reveal the theme tomorrow when I played … well, you’ll have to wait and see.

  15. Juvenile Bluster

    Anti-fa, which is totally just responding to Nazis and not violent and really, who isn’t anti-fascist, assaulted a reporter and posted this rambling excuse on Facederp.

    https://twitter.com/notwokieleaks/status/897997397938384896

    1. Slammer

      No need for the Anti anymore, they’re just FA. Or a good nickname is Antifada

      1. JD

        Antina, nicht wahr?

    2. Chipwooder

      Oh, I’m totally posting this at the Antifa cheering section on the UVA sports board I frequent. I look forward to seeing them explain away these lovely actions of their heroes.

      1. DOOMco

        give us quotes!

      2. WTF

        NAZIS R WORSE!!!11!!!!!

    3. Hyperion

      He was filming them without consent and that was perpetuating rape culture? LOL. So the Democrats really want to tie themselves to this wagon? Well, ok then, proceed!

      1. AlexinCT

        They are banking on the dnc operatives with bylines making sure that the narrative your usual individual that gets their news from comedy shows (like CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo, and so on) not just never pointing this out, but making excuses for it.

    4. antisthenes

      “Anti-fa” is a Disney-level act of intellectual property squatting. You know who is anti-fascist in this country? Literally everyone who isn’t a fascist. The label means nothing, it just happens to raise fewer red flags than “Communist”

      1. AlexinCT

        Basically they are the international socialists and they are on the warpath with the national socialists. It’s the whole Hitler vs. Staling bitch fight all over again..

    5. Raston Bot

      not consenting to their request to not be videoed perpetuates rape culture.

      L. O. L.

    6. John Titor

      Woko Haram lives again! After being banned from Twitter like three times, which should show you what an echo chamber they want.

  16. who?

    Heather Heyer Was The Alt-Right’s Worst Nightmare

    The neo-Nazis at the Daily Stormer have nothing nice to say about Heather Heyer, the 32-year-old paralegal who was killed by a white supremacist protester in Charlottesville last weekend.

    Andrew Anglin, the editor of the Daily Stormer, wasted no time in defaming Heyer, writing an editorial shortly after her death in which he excoriated her appearance and called her “drain on society.” Anglin also noted Heyer’s marital and parental status, calling her a “fat, childless, 32-year-old slut,” claiming that her failure to marry and have children meant that she had “no value.”

    Anglin’s vile rant is a window into the far right’s position on the place of white women in their envisioned America: as fertile wives. While few white women were visible at the Unite The Right march in Charlottesville, the self-proclaimed alt-right does have a place where women’s presence is valued and encouraged ― at home, raising as many white babies as possible.

    oh her.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      The alt right is bad. Most people get it. But it is also fringe and screaming about it in 1000000 articles may make some actually think they have a point.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Jesus, they’re really trying to live down to their reputation as basement dwelling, angry masturbators.

      1. A Fuggin White Male

        Or Feds.

    3. Pomp

      Martyr!

    4. Why are these stupid bastards giving the neo-Nazi assholes coverage? They probably get 200 clicks a day on the Daily Stormer. And 100 of them are Feds. And 50 more are the SPLC.

      They are a non-entity on the political landscape. And the left is doing the nation a disservice by making them out to be bigger than they are.

      Don’t talk about these cretins and they crawl back into their hole.

      1. Echo Chamber

        /ironic ?

      2. AlexinCT

        They are a non-entity on the political landscape. And the left is doing the nation a disservice by making them out to be bigger than they are.

        The left’s agenda is to broad brush paint anyone not on their side as part of this movement. The fact that people that really belong to these organizations amount to nothing more than a fraction of a statistical error population wise, notwithstanding. You don’t have to actually have any kind of conversation or debate with people you have labeled as evil about the fact your policies and ideas are evil themselves, and can just demand they shut up or you will curb stomp them.

      3. DTX

        “…the left is doing the nation a disservice by making them out to be bigger than they are.”

        Having a (if even largely imaginary) bogey-man makes things so much simpler, though.

    5. Chipwooder

      So Nazis are bad people? What a scoop by HuffPo! That’s some serious investigative reporting there.

      1. AlexinCT

        Everyone that opposes the left’s new found hard shift to marxism is a Nazi?

  17. Pomp

    That baby orangutan is excellent.

    1. Slammer

      Yep.

  18. JD

    If you have a space in the Glibertarians fantasy football league, I’d like to get back in.

    1. Private Chipperbot

      Ditto. Will put Manziel on my roster again as well.

      1. That ship has sailed. Unless you can convince the rest of the guys to go back to a 14 team league.

        And I’m afraid if I proposed that, it’d be Charlottesville X 1000.

      2. mr simple

        There’s space in the Glibs.discord group. I don’t run it, so you’d have to get on there and request to join.

        1. trshmnstr

          What’s this discord thing I keep hearing about?

          1. pan fried wylie

            ventrillo and skype had a baby.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    He said he has a wry sense of humor and is sometimes not politically correct.

    Git a rope!

  20. Charlottesville: Who are the alt-left, and is Donald Trump right about them?

    n the meeting with members of the media, he said both sides had been to blame for the incident in Charlottesville – the now-familiar ‘alt-right’, an amorphous group whose members straddle the political spectrum from staunch social conservatives to Neo-Nazis, and a hitherto little-known political movement: the ‘alt-left.’

    The US President claimed members of this group had charged at the white supremacists with clubs, and had previously said there was violence on both sides.

    But who are these mysterious ‘alt-left’ characters? And are they as violent as Trump seems to think?

    Essentially, the principle of the so-called ‘alt-left’ would be the direct opposite of those who follow the right. As opposed to the anti-Semitism, homophobia, white nationalism, anti-immigrant and anti-feminist views which formulate alt-right, alt-left must, by definition, be extremely, aggressively in favour of immigrants, LGBT rights, feminism, and equality.

    yeah, that’s “logical”

    1. Drake

      I notice the article contains no pictures of people wearing masks and helmets, welding clubs. They really aren’t hard to spot.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The media is as always doing their job by digging deep into the issues and providing excellent analysis.

      1. Chipwooder

        Covering the stories…..with a pillow, until they stop moving, as Iowahawk said.

    3. Private Chipperbot

      FFS. Someone get him a gadget that connects to the internet so he can search up bike locks, pepper spray, and urine bags.

    4. mysterious ‘alt-left’ characters

      Non-investigative journalism.

    5. antisthenes

      The alt left is what Hitler sees when he looks in the mirror. I.e., himself, but everything is backwards.

    6. mr simple

      straddle the political spectrum from staunch social conservatives to Neo-Nazis

      But they’re definitely not trying to expand the definition to include more people on the right and thus paint everyone not in their camp as violent racists.

  21. Drake

    This would be a big story too, if people weren’t busy prepping for Civil War II.

    FBI Reopens Case Into Lynch-Clinton Tarmac Meeting

    1. westernsloper

      That would be a huge story. I am not sure how they are going to play it when it becomes beyond apparent that the Obama administration actively covered up that meeting as well as when eventually it is known without a doubt that Susan Rice and others were unmasking for political reasons. (which it looks like they were) Bad form to be going after the previous administration, but jesus, there is some first rate stink to a lot of that even for DC.

      1. AlexinCT

        That would be a huge story. I am not sure how they are going to play it when it becomes beyond apparent that the Obama administration actively covered up that meeting as well as when eventually it is known without a doubt that Susan Rice and others were unmasking for political reasons.

        I think the current news cycle that basically consists of a miasma of made up shit and more lies, while real news gets ignored because it would’t negatively impact the left”s narrative and political agency, clearly show us what is to be expected?

        Bad form to be going after the previous administration, but jesus, there is some first rate stink to a lot of that even for DC.” How long do you think Obama’s admin would have lasted had the media actually done their job instead of shilling for them?

    2. Hyperion

      So, the leftist democrats and their lapdog media make up a bunch of shit about Russians hacking our elections and go on an 8 month long (still going) fit of insane hysteria to try and stage a coup against a duly elected president, and this is a surprise? I think they have a lot more surprises in store.

      1. AlexinCT

        That Russia nonsense was so they could help cover up for revelations like this one about the shenanigans that went on during Obama’s tenure. Preemptive distractions.

  22. westernsloper

    Or just look at the pics, ya perverts

    Righty-O. Done and would.

    1. The Elite Elite

      Eh, she’s rather plain if you ask me. I was hoping for better.

      1. mr simple

        She looks like she’s worked a lot of long hours for 28. But I’m sure she’s good at her job which is the only thing she should be judged on.

        TIWTANLW

  23. Brett L

    Man pursued by cops, does the sensible thing and climbs a gantry crane at a port, gets naked, and leaps or falls to his death. The man bites dog angle is that it isn’t Florida.

  24. DNC shake-up leaves Dems behind in fundraising

    Months of post-election malaise hamstrung the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) fundraising over the first six months of 2017, creating a serious money gap with Republicans and raising questions about Democrats’ ability to take advantage of opportunities in the 2018 midterms.

    The DNC raised $38.2 million in the first half of the year, compared with the Republican National Committee’s (RNC) $75.4 million haul during that period — a $37.2 million difference. As of June 30, the RNC has almost $45 million in the bank, while the DNC has just under $7.5 million, along with $3 million in debt.

    Many Democrats are frustrated by the sluggish fundraising pace, which comes even as President Trump’s sagging approval rating drives Democratic outrage across the country.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      As in most cases, the main issue will not be funding

    2. Nephilium

      “Opportunities” What opportunities? There’s a solid chance the the Republicans get to 60 in the Senate. Not that they’ll do anything with it, but they’ll have it.

      1. The actual opportunity was for honest self-assessment and a purge of the elements detroying their party.

        They passed and decided to double up on derp.

        1. Hyperion

          The best news is that if anything happens with Perez, they’ve got Keith Ellison as their new top dog. It will get glorious.

      2. BigT

        They only have 49 now since McCain, Snow, and Murk are brain dead.

    3. Echo Chamber

      I think fundraising is subject to the rules of marginal utility. Once the airwaves are saturated with ads, how much good does one more ad do?
      It’s fine and dandy if people want to piss away $1 billion on an election, but it would be interesting to see where that $1 billion really went.

      1. Hyperion

        I think you may be missing part of the story. If the Democrats do not have enough cash, it’s going to be harder to bus dead people and illegals to the polling places.

    4. Hyperion

      Don’t worry, once they’ve started campaigning with their new heroes, antifa, up on the stage with them, babbling insane non-sense and hurling bags of urine at the crowd, their fundraising will once again get them on the road to glorious utopia.

    5. Gadfly

      Considering they spent twice as much as Trump and still lost to him, if the Dems are hurting for fund-raising this time around I’m going to say they better brace themselves for a possible ballot-box slaughter.

  25. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Sloop, how could you miss this sportsball news?

    And the reaction…

    1. Now that is AWESOME.

  26. Pomp

    Seems to me an appropriate soundtrack for Charlottesville:

    HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY!
    And everybody’s talking about revolution,
    And everybody’s talking about smash the state,
    Sounds to me like the final solution,
    Right wing, left wing, full of hate.
    WE DON’T WANT TO FIGHT,
    Cause you tell us to,
    Watch your back when you attack,
    Well, we might just turn on you.
    Things getting worse with every hour,
    The future fades into the past.
    All they want is total power,
    Climbing on the back of the working class.
    WE DON’T WANT TO FIGHT,
    Cause you tell us to,
    Watch your back when you attack,
    Cause, we might just turn on you.
    WE DON’T WANT TO FIGHT,
    Cause you tell us to,
    Watch your back when you attack,
    Cause, we might just turn on you.
    Oh, we don’t wanna be part of no new religion,
    We don’t need a part in no scheme of yours,
    Don’t wanna be part of a political dream,
    Just wanna go on living our lives.
    WE DON’T WANT TO FIGHT,
    Cause you tell us to,
    Watch your back when you attack,
    Well, we might just turn on you.
    WE DON’T WANT TO FIGHT,
    Cause you tell us to,
    Watch your back when you attack,
    Well, we might just turn on you,
    On you!

    1. Well, come on all of you, big strong men,
      Anti-fa needs your help again.
      Yeah, we got ourselves in a jam
      Tearin’ down monuments on old Durham
      So put down your books and pick up a bike lock,
      Gonna find a righty to fuck up.
      And it’s one, two, three,
      What are we fighting for?
      Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn,
      Let’s leave Virginia and head to Durham;
      And it’s five, six, seven,
      Open up the pearly gates,
      Well there ain’t no time to wonder why,
      Whoopee! The right is gonna die!

      1. BigT

        Cunt Joe (Biden) and the F@cks!

  27. Brett L

    Article I didn’t even bother to read: “Tech is not winning the battle against white supremacy”

    What fucking technology is going to do that? We have satellites that obviously work because you can get TV from them and people believe in the Flat Earth. We routinely take video of people floating for hours at a time in weightlessness and people believe in the Flat Earth. Should we kick those people off Facebook, too?

    1. Negroni Please

      Idk. Are they racist?

  28. Fred Bauer‏ @fredbauerblog 10h10 hours ago
    If conservatives accept (cultural) Marxist terms of debate, they can look forward to continued political retreat and betrayal of principles.

    1. David Marcus‏ @BlueBoxDave 14h14 hours ago
      Should a guy who created Japanese internment camps really have his face on the dime? Am I doing this right?

      1. BigT

        What about the g-d memorial on the Mall?? THAT statue gotta go!

    2. Mark Krikorian‏Verified account @MarkSKrikorian 14h14 hours ago
      What’s the ‘alt-left’? Experts say it’s a ‘made-up term’ @CNNPolitics http://cnn.it/2x38nQm True. The “alt” qualifier is unnecessary.

      1. TK

        That’s because the proper term is “ctrl-left”.

        1. Oh sweet fuck. I just came up with a good Team Blue slogan. I hope none of those dickheads frequent this place because it’s actually good. For the tech crowd of young people:

          “Donald Trump wants an alt-right.
          America wants to shift-left”

          1. Hyperion

            That’s good. But the left can’t use it, most of their voters won’t get it.

    3. That’s it, I summon the Ghost of Senator McCarthy.

      1. Chipwooder

        Bobby Kennedy’s hero? That Senator McCarthy?

        1. I’m just throwing molotov cocktails here.

      2. spqr2008

        It’s as if the left has no idea that HUAC (and by extension, McCarthyism) were started as a “brown scare” against facists, and early on in his career, LBJ was in on it.

        1. Chipwooder

          They also are unaware of how Marxists and their fellow travelers suddenly went from frothingly anti-Nazi to being pretty hands off towards Nazis after the German-Soviet pact was signed in 1939.

          1. spqr2008

            And back again as soon as Operation Barbarossa was launched in June of 1941.

  29. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Ana Navarro is losing it.

    Personally, I think she’s sexually attracted to Donny Two Scoops and can’t reconcile it in her mind.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      I’m starting to think every single journalist and progressive NEVER read a single history book about WWII, Nazis, Fascists, Russia, and deep dish.

      I asked a progressive friend, after he kept spewing off mindlessly the Trump=Hitler trope, to connect the two and back up his assertion. If he could do it, then I’d entertain it. He unsurprisingly deflected. I notice when pushed into a corner they like to turn and tell you that ‘it’s not the point’; that somehow their esoteric bull shit passes off as rational intellectualism. It’s sophistry at its worse.

      And it drives their intellectual compass.

      They’re retards in other words.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’m fortunate enough to not have to deal with them in my daily life. My derpbook is peppered with them but I don’t use it much at all.

    2. Chipwooder

      Who the hell is this woman, anyway? I’d never heard of her until a couple of days ago yet she’s supposedly some kind of conservative notable?

      1. Hyperion

        I don’t know who she is either, but I clicked the link and read a few lines of the twatter. Basically all I see there is social signaling, nothing at all of any substance.

    3. Hyperion

      Who?

  30. Juvenile Bluster

    I once again maintain that Iowahawk is America’s greatest treasure.

    David Burge‏ @iowahawkblog

    Mob 1: JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US
    Mob 2: FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
    *eyes meet*
    *baseball bats drop*
    *giant orgy*

    1. Not the best example of his twit wit.

      1. straffinrun

        It had human emotion involved. Could see why you didn’t like it.

        1. Los Doyers

          “Am I so unfunny?………….No! It’s the commenters who are wrong.”

          1. Burge has much better material out there.

            Not every remark is going to be gold, or even pyrite.

    2. A Fuggin White Male

      kek

    3. David Burge‏ @iowahawkblog 19h19 hours ago
      2 battling factions of virgin losers who despise America, love authoritarian race/class resentment politics, and hate Jews and Israel. /1

      David Burge‏ @iowahawkblog 19h19 hours ago
      As far as I can tell, it boils down to a disagreement over fashion choices. /2

  31. robc

    Music link wasn’t “25 or 6 to 4” by Chicago.

    Huh.

    How can a band that sucks so much do a song that good? And how can you do a song that good and have absolutely nothing else worthwhile?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      But they gave us Peter Et Cetera!!!!

    2. Just a thought not a sermon

      I guess for that song they had the inspiration of their lives. For their other songs, you just have to look away.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        C’mon now, Stay The Night is so horribly bad that it’s entertaining.

        1. Private Chipperbot

          Liking bad music is a hard habit to break.

    3. You bastards needed to wait until tomorrow. There are plenty of awful bands with a decent song or two. And yes, I’ve dipped my toe in that well this week.

      But now I don’t even know if I’m gonna give the coup-de-grâce. I might just post The Beatles and make you wonder if I’ve gone insane.

  32. NAACP Leader: I Disapprove Of Pulling Down Confederate Statues

    A top NAACP leader on Tuesday publicly spoke out against the move to tear down memorials to Confederate soldiers in the wake of racial violence in Charlottesville, saying that destroying a statue won’t change our nation’s history. Esther M. Lee, the president of the Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, chapter of the NAACP, told a local news station that violence around the issue was simply not worth it.

    “You know that’s history. That was in that point in time,” Lee said, according to WFMZ. “You can’t eliminate what history is. So I disapprove with young people pulling down those statues.”

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Good for him.

      1. Sean

        Good for her.

        I watch that station and was happy to see that clip run. She is a voice of reason in a cacophony of derp.

    2. Cynical me asks if this is principle, or because his organization depends on that history to assert relevance.

    3. straffinrun

      “If you make the crackers angry, it ain’t gonna end well.’

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Thank you Esther.

    5. TK

      Duh, the people that want to tear statues down are a bunch of white people signaling their moral superiority over other white people.

    6. Hyperion

      Oh, another Uncle Tom, I see.

      1. BigT

        Aunt Jemima

  33. Mustang

    Sloppy, if you actually do chain yourself to one of those things I will social signal the shit out of it. That’s about all I can do from here, but good luck.

    1. Mustang

      Also, its evening in Japan and I’ve been enjoying drinks, so apologize for typos.

      1. straffinrun

        Where are you, Mustang? I’m in Kujukirihama camping.

        1. Mustang

          Yokota, going to be here a while.

          1. Mustang

            Only been here a week though so go easy on me.

          2. Los Doyers

            Asking for mercy in Japan carries an instant seppuku sentence.

  34. The Sleeper

    I’ve been on the fence about posting this, but I would really appreciate the insight (or at least sardonic responses) from my fellow Glibs.
    Teacher-parent chooses to sacrifice her kids to public schools in the name of racial justice

    Sometimes during these conversations among parents, even after I say something about how my privileged kids will be OK and how diversity is good, the other moms continue their hand-wringing. Why? Sometimes it’s because their children have challenges mine do not; because they have less privilege than I do; or because they are afraid that even the privilege they have will not be enough to position their children favorably in a rapidly changing world.

    These fears are understandable. But sadly, I’m also afraid that some of their anxiety is because of implicit bias that these good-hearted women don’t want to recognize within themselves. This is what’s usually buried under the surface of talk about “good schools”: so often, white parents define “good schools” as schools full of white kids.

    This practically reeks of new-age White Man’s Burden.

    1. A cleric of the modern moloch of the teacher’s union feeds her family to the flames.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      There is no doubt that in exchanging a self-centered for a selfless life we gain enormously in self-esteem. The vanity of the selfless, even those who practice utmost humility, is boundless.

      – Hoffer

      1. BigT

        “It’s disconcerting to realize that businessmen, generals, soldiers, men of action are less corrupted by power than intellectuals… You take a conventional man of action, and he’s satisfied if you obey. But not the intellectual. He doesn’t want you just to obey. He wants you to get down on your knees and praise the one who makes you love what you hate and hate what you love. In other words, whenever the intellectuals are in power, there’s soul-raping going on.”
        -Hoffer

    3. Also, Ms. Teacher Person, the observation that there is a distinct cultural difference between the attitudes towards learning is not bias or racism. Good schools are not not defined as “schools full of white kids” but the disparity in attitudes causes a greater proportion of white parents to put in added effort to make sure their kids attend the best school they can get them into. The apathy from other demographics results in the de-facto self-segregation you’ve observed and incorrectly blamed on racism.

      1. BigT

        A lot of it is due to gubbamint:

        See “The Color of Law”

    4. Hyperion

      Dumb social signaling, it’s all the rage.

  35. Hyperion

    Top O the mornin, Glibs.

    Sloop, you missed one, and it’s a big one. It’s time for guess where this link came from, no link of course.

    Despite the President’s Pandering, White Nationalists Are Still Losing

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      WaPoPo?

      1. Hyperion

        -1 you win one intertoobz. Next!

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Was TOS always like this and I just didn’t notice, or did their brains break after Trump won?

      1. Chipwooder

        It’s been sliding in that direction for a while now (after all, it was a long time ago that Weigel was there), but Trump definitely put the pedal to the metal.

      2. AlmightyJB

        They went off the rails. They want the big lefty sites to like them.

        1. Chipwooder

          They truly are more concerned with being popular with the media in-crowd than their principles.

      3. Hyperion

        They started down that hill when Trump got the GOP nomination. It’s been a fast descent ever since.

      4. Meh. If they want to be the single- A affiliate to WaPo (with TDB being the AA club and HuffPo being AAA), let them.

        Those people have families to feed. And sushi made out of fruit ain’t cheap these days.

      5. John Titor

        Their shift in writers over the past couple years have dropped their collective IQ by twenty or thirty points, but Gillespie was always kind of a scumbag.

    3. american socialist

      Pandering ? He specifically called them out

      1. related:

        Mark Krikorian‏Verified account @MarkSKrikorian 12h12 hours ago
        Bannon on the tiki-torch brigade: “Ethno-nationalism—it’s losers….These guys are a collection of clowns.”

        1. You know deep down he doesn’t really mean it.

        2. WTF

          I like how he said ethno-nationalism, could likely be applied to some lefty groups as well.

    4. american socialist

      Losing what? They were non existent until press decides to make them prominent

  36. PieInTheSKy

    Although I don’t care about existing monuments, I would be completely in favor of government not using tax money to build any more statues and monuments and such. Also no cathedrals which is what they are building in Bucharest.

    But there was a recent scandal around here about our mayor planning to spend 100 mill US on new statues in the next year, as if everything else is solved in Bucharest. But this is not of history but of daylight robbery. Similar money is spend on tulips in the spring which usually last a week. Trees tend to cost the city about 100 times more then I would pay for them at the tree getting place, the english word escapes me

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        *confused face*

      2. Negroni Please

        WHAT IS HE DOING TO THAT DOG!?!?!?!?

      3. PieInTheSKy

        This is supposed to be the emperor Trajan, the wolf that raised the founder of Rome combined with the Dacian banner which was a snake with a wolves head http://adevarul.ro/assets/adevarul.ro/MRImage/2015/06/14/557d2b23cfbe376e3543ed61/646×404.jpg

      4. Hyperion

        Is this guy fucking a dog? I mean that was my first impression.

      5. blighted_non_millenial

        Robert Pattison hardest hit.

      6. ElspethFlashman

        O . . .. kay . . .

    1. PieInTheSKy

      And this fabulous thing

      https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/memorial-rebirth-eternal-glory-to-romanian-revolution-its-heroes-december-pictured-revolution-square-36048224.jpg

      Which is nicknamed the potato on a stick or the testicle on a spike, depending

      1. Negroni Please

        That is indeed a testicle on a spike. Is that the official monument to feminism?

        1. PieInTheSKy

          It is supposed to be in memory of people who died in 1989 when communism went down. I am not sure revolution is the right word, but most use it. I don’t see how that particular thing accomplishes that lofty goal though.

          1. Some bird picked an inopportune obelisk to set up its erye on.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Looks like cops celebrating the capture of a donut.

      3. Hyperion

        What even in the fuck is that?

    2. PieInTheSKy

      This was supposed to cost 60 mil and was canceled due to backlash, should have celebrated 100 years the the Unification of Romania in 2018

      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/l6bbXImKZF8/maxresdefault.jpg

      Ok, I am done with crap Bucharest monuments for the day

      1. How much crack was smoked to pick that?

        1. PieInTheSKy

          At leas 1 mil worth

      2. Hyperion

        How much hashish do they smoke in Romania? I mean, is it in the metric tons, or is a new unit of measurement based on planet size?

      3. SugarFree

        Um, that’s The Morty Shield.

        Which is barbaric overkill, because you could accomplish the same result with, like, five Mortys and a jumper cable.

      4. Negroni Please

        Soooo this is what it looks like when the Borg reads Hobbes’ Leviathan?

      5. Number.6

        Couldn’t the government just settle for a hill of skulls like they all did in the old days? That goddamn statue looks like the unholy union of an ossary and a “Bloomin Onion”

  37. A Fuggin White Male

    Even Jake Tapper knows Donald Trump is right: https://imgur.com/a/jvI2Z

    1. american socialist

      Jake tapper was called alt right a few weeks ago. It is a good thing antifa is rooting out real nazis you know because the definition won’t increase to who is and isn’t

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        That happened when the “It’s ok to punch Nazis” thing in January went to (from a popular tweet) “It’s ok to punch Nazis and white male libertarians who talk about free speech”

    2. Hyperion

      Wait, Tapper really didn’t just write that, did he? I guess Jakey didn’t prog hard enough.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        He wrote it. And he is getting bashed for it. FOR SOME REASON.

  38. american socialist

    I think the dem gov and mayor for Charlottesville are in trouble I think

    1. Chipwooder

      There really isn’t trouble for McAuliffe to be in, you can’t run for re-election in Virginia anyway.

      1. american socialist

        I am talking criminal charges. They were told to stand down.

        The gov lied about weapons caches and being outmanned

        They wanted this to happen

        1. Hyperion

          But at least they get to invite antifa over for tea now. I hope they don’t mind when some fine upstanding antifa member urinates on their rug.

        2. Chipwooder

          Can’t see it happening.

        3. AlexinCT

          Have you been paying attention to how the law applies us rubes vis a vis the connected members of the democratic party for the last 9 years going?

  39. american socialist

    Was kind of pissed at trump for playing left disavow game but do like how he has the press writing puff pieces about antifa and how they are basically like the folks who were at Normandy

    1. WTF

      Well, antifa are like the folks who were at Normandy – the ones up on the heights in the pill boxes shooting at the Allies.

    1. westernsloper

      olberg was immediately corrected online, one responder warning her, “Don’t buy into the false equivalency like Trump and sympathizers. Only one group would commit genocide against the other if given power.”

      Ya, I’m not so sure about that there chuckles. How does Antifa feel about the JOOOOs? Hell, they would gladly beat to death anyone who disagrees with them and is not a communist. I think there is a real equivalency there. And at the risk of defending White Nationalists (which I am not) and is a point I made elsewhere, from our discussions of the likes of Spencer and his ilk over the past some months, I take it those sickos do not want a genocide. They believe in a segregated society much like the majority of Democrat politicians for most of this countries history. Some groups that the left has aligned itself with, CAIR, Hamas, Hezbollah and their supporters are full on genocide promoters. They are no way any better than Nazis and have a whole lot in common with them.

  40. Michael

    I’m getting unbearably sick of idiots all over the Internet likening antifa to the Allied invasion and congratulating themselves for their cleverness. Both of my grandfathers served – one for Poland and the other for the US – and I am pretty certain that they didn’t take off their bandanas and meet for lattes while Snapchatting about it afterward. In fact, sometime during the nineties my widow grandmother in Poland was tricked into giving up her late husband’s commendations by partisan scumbags (read: the commies that antifa regards as heroes) that claimed it was for a museum exhibit. Our family has no idea what actually happened to them or how to get them returned. Sadly some of them think that it was the result of some bureaucratic error somewhere. So if anyone approaches me with this completely tone-deaf, boneheaded comparison in the next 48 hours or so, they’re gonna be spitting out their fucking teeth.

    1. american socialist

      They are so fucking stupid lol. I saw Richard Dawkins compared antifa to exterminated Jews

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Dawkins is making an ass of himself again I see.

        1. american socialist

          Who is he again?

          1. Tundra

            Hosted Family Feud for years. Serially violator of personal space.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            *tapers stare, hits buzzer*

          3. Chipwooder

            Cut the man some slack – he endured years of imprisonment by the Nazis. He’s just like Antifa!

          4. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Self-appointed Pope of Atheism

          5. Slammer

            Nice

  41. PieInTheSKy

    And then there’s this

    It’s Time for Taylor Swift to Denounce Her Neo-Nazi Admirers

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/its-time-for-taylor-swift-to-denounce-her-neo-nazi-admirers

    1. Negroni Please

      Well she is kind of an aryan Übermädchen

      1. tarran

        You’re lucky Switzy is sleeping!

  42. Lachowsky

    well, I took my 5 year old to his very first day of government indoctrination today.

    1. Are you going to spend the afternoon telling him “Okay, here’s what they got wrong, and here’s what they left out”?

      1. Negroni Please

        He’s in kindergarten. Pretty sure there’s very little to get wrong, and as to what they left out….well…pretty much everything.

        1. Have you seen the common core reading and arithmatic methodologies?

      2. Lachowsky

        Not yet. at this age I don’t think they do too much harm.

        When I was a kid I remember going over some of the things I was taught in middle and high school and my dad correcting the falsehoods. He always included the disclaimer, what I’m telling you is true, but your test scores will suffer if you answer truthfully.

        1. Tundra

          Kids are smart. My son figured out – with very little coaching – how to write to appease his AP english teacher. He got his A’s and we got to have some good discussions.

          1. I remember doing the same for a freshman (college) english class — “Reading Texts”
            Prof was a total commie but a nice guy and I recall writing a hilarious deconstruction of the movie Top Gun.

    2. Raston Bot

      K is not so bad. it’s 2nd grade when the new-age math goes off the rails.

  43. Tundra

    The White House has a new communications director.

    Interim, but yeah. Not to be a perv, but I’d like to see her last longer than the greasy dude.

    This seems appropriate.

    1. westernsloper

      Not to be a perv

      Turning over a new leaf?

      1. Tundra

        Or lying through my teeth…

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Free speech is a good idea, in theory…

    The danger that communities face because of their speech isn’t equal. The A.C.L.U.’s decision to offer legal support to a right-wing cause, then a left-wing cause, won’t make it so. Rather, it perpetuates a misguided theory that all radical views are equal. And it fuels right-wing free-speech hypocrisy. Perhaps most painful, it also redistributes some of the substantial funds the organization has received to fight white supremacy toward defending that cause.

    The A.C.L.U. needs a more contextual, creative advocacy when it comes to how it defends the freedom of speech. The group should imagine a holistic picture of how speech rights are under attack right now, not focus on only First Amendment case law. It must research how new threats to speech are connected to one another and to right-wing power. Acknowledging how criminal laws, voting laws, immigration laws, education laws and laws governing corporations can also curb expression would help it develop better policy positions.

    Sometimes standing on the wrong side of history in defense of a cause you think is right is still just standing on the wrong side of history.

    “Contextual advocacy” = “Hate speech is not free speech” I guess.

    *hate speech, defined as “ideas of which I disapprove”.

    Also- CITIZENS UNITED!

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Those are fighting words as far as I’m concerned.

    2. a holistic picture of how speech rights are under attack right now

      what the fuck does that even mean?

      1. Chipwooder

        Now who could argue with that? I think we’re all in debt to K-Sue Park for clearly stating what needed to be said. Not only was it authentic prog gibberish, it expressed a desire to police the thoughts of others so depressingly common in this day and age.

    3. Chipwooder

      K-Sue Park is a housing attorney and the Critical Race Studies fellow at the U.C.L.A. School of Law.

      No fucking way!

      1. If I ever need a lawyer, I’ll make sure they didn’t gradutate from UCLA

        1. or even graduate /derp

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          She’s got ’em all… Cambridge, Hahvahd, Berkeley.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            All that supposed education and still doesn’t understand what the First Amendment is or why it’s important. Her supposed teachers should be figuring out their seppeku strategies for their abject failures, if they had any personal honor.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            They didn’t fail. They succeeded by their own measures most likely.

          3. Gustave Lytton

            You’re right.

    4. Brett L

      KMW pretty much nailed it when she said that these idiots think they are getting No speech for white supremacists and what they would really get is No speech for people Jeff Sessions doesn’t like.

      1. Chipwooder

        That’s shockingly sensible for KMW, lately anyway.

    5. The Elite Elite

      Wait, is this person really saying the ACLU isn’t biased for the left enough?

      1. Chipwooder

        Oh, you don’t know the half of it. There are a LOT of lefty types in Central VA who are very angry at the ACLU for their work to make the Nazi march last week happen.

    6. Slammer

      Make your own damn organization that reflects your view then, lady. Damn

  45. PieInTheSKy

    From the annals of studies I chose to believe

    UC San Diego claims in a new study that certain people who regularly consume moderate to heavy amounts of alcohol are more likely to live to 85 without developing dementia and other cognitive problems compared to people who don’t drink at all.

    The long-term study was largely based on white, middle-class men and women living in Rancho Bernardo, a master-planned community in North County.

    The paper was published in the Journal of Alzheimer’s Disease, and is the latest in a series of mostly non-definitive studies that examine how everything from genetics to diet to environment factor in to the development of dementia.

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/science/sd-20170801-story.html

    1. Hyperion

      Without clicking the link, I have a couple of thoughts on that. First of all, you can get any result you want out of a human subjects study, either intentionally or randomly because humans are very different genetically and so you will always be testing on some variant of humans. Also there are 1000s of studies, I’m sure, contradicting that one in one way or other.

      Alcohol kills off weaker brain cells and so you get some regeneration of brain cells. Alcohol relieves stress. At least until the next day after you’ve drank too much. People who never drink are boring. Not sure what they’re citing as their evidence, I’ll go click it now.

    2. Hyperion

      “Heavy drinking is defined as up to three alcoholic beverages per day for women of any adult age and men 65 and older; and four drinks a day for adult men under 65. Drinking more than these amounts is categorized as excessive.”

      This is fucking hilarious. 4 units(unit = 1 6% beer or 1.5oz 40 proof liquor) a day for say, a 200 lb male, is light drinking or moderate at the most.

      1. Spartan Dad

        40 proof liquor isn’t liquor. I think it’s called Kahlua. So the study is really saying that 1.5 drinks is heavy drinking for women.

        1. Hyperion

          Shit, I meant 80 proof, so 40%. Thanks for catching that.

    3. robc

      This lines up with virtually every study I have seen which shows positive long term health benefits to moderate alcohol consumption.

      All of the studies seem to show that people who drink moderately live longer than heavy drinkers or teatotalers.

    1. Chipwooder

      People really aren’t getting the whole “if they can do it to Nazis, they can do it to you” concept.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        They’re Roperites.

        William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

        Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

        William Roper: Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!

        Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!

    2. Raston Bot

      this is private actors acting privately. not sure the heckler’s veto applies here. freedom of the press does not include a positive right for private actors to allow you to publish on their platform. Clusterflare may be fucked contractually but apparently this is a business decision. a rather odd business decision considering they cater to sites under constant DDOS attack and are probably less popular than average.

      1. Raston Bot

        that Clusterfare CEO knows he just fucked his business model:

        “after today, make no mistake, it will be a little bit harder for us to argue against a government somewhere pressuring us into taking down a site they don’t like.”

      2. Dr Mossy Lawn

        It is the heckler’s veto because it is being caused by loud complaints and DDOS activities, not the separate decisions of the business actors.

        If we take the initial denial of the DNS registration, it would be like the phone company not giving you a phone #, or publishing your entry in the phone book. You can talk all you want, but you cannot connect to the public information network. You can publish all you want, but nobody will rent you a press, or sell you ink. Technically these are the actions of private companies, but when they seem to work in concert it has a chilling effect.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I find it funny that probably all of the people who support the silencing of the Daily Stormer also support net neutrality.

          1. Dr Mossy Lawn

            Net neutrality is about protecting traffic “I” like. Not being Neutral.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      whoa

    2. The Elite Elite

      That’s quite a picture.

    3. Hyperion

      Crikey, she looks like a pod person.

    4. Slammer

      Pepe the Frog’s momma

    5. Never trust a bugeye.

    6. Schnirt Gurgleburger

      They better be nice to her. I think she is a daughter of one of our lizard overlords.

    7. Number.6

      M S F L O R I D A W O M A N — H A S S E E N S O M E S H I T

      1. Number.6

        Meh. Frickin’ whitespace normalization …

        1. R C Dean

          You mean, frickin’ gentrification?

          1. Number.6

            In this situation, wordpress has deliberately and in a premediatated manner, eliminated a considerable amount of non-alphanumeric (=whitespace) content from my prose.

            So much, indeed, that it leads me to suspect that I’m being censored, possibly in a conspiracy between Dreamhost ( a California corporation) and the putative providers of wordpress blogging software, who to the best of my knowledge are located thru’out the US and overseas, and hence this behavior may represent a federal crime.

  46. Ah – my blood is boiling. I think I need something to help me relax.

    L.A. Freeway by Guy Clark

    1. blighted_non_millenial

      This has been working for me. We Hate Everyone!

  47. Juvenile Bluster

    Meanwhile, while we go insane about 200 white supremacists ranting white supremacist bullshit while carrying tiki torches…

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/jews-are-leaving-france-in-record-numbers-amid-rising-anti-semitism-and-fears-of-more-isis-inspired-a6832391.html

    1. Negroni Please

      Is that really “record” numbers though? I think there were a few years that would be hard to beat…

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Alright, add a “voluntarily” leaving. Better?

        1. Negroni Please

          Yes. Technically correct and all that.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    NYT has an editorial about Public Enemy number One’s offhand remark about the “military option” for Venezuela.

    Aghast, they are. Outraged. I guess humanitarian intervention is only good when Democrats do it.

    1. Chipwooder

      And, when Venezuela descends into civil war and chaos, the NYT will be screaming about how negligent the administration has been.

      1. american socialist

        Blame the capitalism America for failure of socialism

    2. Zunalter

      They must have been sleeping during the libya/ arab spring thing a few years ago.

  49. Ken Shultz

    The transformation of the site site which shall not be named into the new Salon.com appears to be almost complete.

    First story today:

    The white nationalists who gathered to protest the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee from a public park were aggrieved that they no longer enjoy being members of the ruling race, suggests Steve Chapman. That status carried great privileges, and it’s no surprise that these modern misfits bitterly resent the changes that undid it.

    Just for the record, the privileges of being part of the white, Southern underclass have been few for nigh on, at least, 45 years. If the 300 (max) white nationalists who gathered in Charlottesville are particularly representative of anything, it is not whatever the left means by “white privilege”.

    Last story last night = ENB concern-trolling the First Amendment:

    Of course, multiple folks say they did raise flags about Fields. But beyond that, not every doodled swastika or bigoted remark from a fellow student is the kind of thing kids would report to authorities. A lack of tattling to the principal that Fields said something nice about Hitler doesn’t mean he didn’t say nice things about Hitler.

    And regardless of whether reports were made, the district may have lacked grounds to act, at least in a diciplinary manner. High school students have First Amendment rights, and we don’t know if Fields’ antics ever crossed the line into prohibited speech or actual misconduct.

    Still, this incident could serve as a good jumping-off point for exploring what roles and responsibilities school officials, teachers, classmates, and community members have (and don’t have) when it comes to young people and radically racist rhetoric or extremist views.

    I guess she’s trying to open a dialogue?

    If there’s a meaningful distinction between authoritarianism and totalitarianism, it’s that where authoritarians try to control what people do, totalitarians police what people think.

    When exploring what roles and responsibilities” the government has when it comes to policing thought, here’s the beginning, middle, and end of my contribution to the dialogue: “Fuck you!”

    1. Chipwooder

      No matter what polish she tries to apply to herself, her foundation will always be the prog that wrote all those horseshit pieces for Bustle.

      1. Let me try to rehabilitate ENB in the eyes of some people here

        “…I was thrilled when [ENB] agreed to contribute my first guest spot of 2015.”

        “It wouldn’t be quite accurate to say I had my first kinky boyfriend at age 25. My most significant college beau and I dabbled in all sorts of not-totally-vanilla play, from ice cubes and hot wax to strangling and faux non-consent. But for the most part, these endeavors felt clumsy and inauthentic…

        “…then along came the man I’ll call “Chris”. He had a beautiful body, a giant cock, and a sexy voice, but easily the best part about him when it came to sex was that he knew what he liked and wanted. These days I still loathe asking men to do this or roleplay that in bed, because as it turns out I have a very strong sexually submissive streak. But I couldn’t have told you that at the time–I didn’t have the vocabulary. I needed someone like Chris not because I was hesitant to ask for what I wanted, but because I honestly had no idea what that was.

        “Thank goodness Chris and I were on the same kink wavelength—had my first dom liked dressing in leather, or insisted I call him master, or been into ball-gags and caning, I may have balked and thrown the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak; I don’t mean to disparage any of these activities, but they are just not for me. Instead, Chris and I sometimes role-played realistic situations where he might be in a position of power over me—boss, professor, etcetera. I remember one time asking, early on, if he was going to punish me, and his answer was an emphatic “no”—punishment was cruel, he explained; what he was meting out was “discipline.” Part of this discipline involved him slapping me across the face from time to time during sex; I loved it, and I fell in love with him. For the first time in the history of my sex life, I was never, ever bored during sex. The relationship with Chris didn’t last, but my conviction that I needed a little kink in my sex life did….”

        1. There’s another article of hers that used to be on the Internet, but now it’s no longer available under her name, and I respect what may be her desire to get beyond it.

          1. Ken Shultz

            Don’t they print that shit at Cosmo or in the Letters section at Penthouse?

            Why is that rehabilitating from a libertarian perspective?

            She’s a sex-positive feminist.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-positive_feminism

            So are a lot of Marxists.

          2. I was attempting what you earthlings call sarcasm

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The option of disassociation remains available. If a student shows up to school consistently espousing that Jews are lesser humans and slavery was a good thing, then I’ll leave the option of expulsion open. Standard disclaimers about government schools apply.

      1. Ken Shultz

        Speech that violates someone’s rights or makes it impossible for the teacher to operate would merit suspension or expulsion. The Second Amendment doesn’t protect violating someone’s rights with a gun, and the First Amendment doesn’t protect violating someone’s rights with your speech. Show me that a student violated another student’s rights with speech, and we can talk about suspension, expulsion or criminal charges.

        Policing speech, otherwise, is unacceptable. Policing what people think is unacceptable. We have a First Amendment that protects both, and even if we didn’t, government entities would still have no business policing speech or ideas for content.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Speech does not need to violate someone’s rights to merit a suspension and/or expulsion. If the student is a distraction to others’ education, then they can be told to leave. Since no one has a right to education, that distraction cannot be a violation of rights. This, of course, is more ideal in a privatized educational system where voluntary association actually exists.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I should revise to say that….

            Since no one has a right to education, that neither the original distraction nor expulsion can be a violation of rights.

          2. Ken Shultz

            It isn’t about a right to an education. The government is specifically prohibited from discriminating against people based on the political content of their speech. The First Amendment protects the right of speech from government interference. If the government expels a student because of the political nature of his speech, then the government is violating the First Amendment.

            Spray-painting political graffiti on someone’s property isn’t protected by the First Amendment because it violates someone’s property rights. In that case, the police aren’t arresting you because of the content of your speech. They’re arresting you for violating someone’s property rights with vandalism.

            Either way, the government has no business policing what people say or think. Violate someone’s rights, and you’re in another ballgame.

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            That said, I think shaming and mocking are acceptable societal functions. If you’re stupid enough put on a Nazi armband or Che t-shirt in my history class. I’m going to engage you and shame the living hell out of you if only as a warning to the other students.

  50. AlmightyJB

    I have a question about this stormfront deal. Are these companies just refusing to host their website or are they refusing domain name registration? If the later, do you have to go through a private intermediary to register your domain?

    1. Dr Mossy Lawn

      All internet traffic goes via private or corporate assets. All .com DNS registrations ultimately are put into VeriSign servers. I do not believe that ICANN has an all cary rule. There are only about a dozen .com feeders, when each of them, or the master holder (VS) won’t carry you, you are done. These are companies who have no problem hosting nambla.org as a matter of freedom of speech, but these guys are beyond the pale.

      There are a number of items in flux. the domain registration has been denied.. Their hosting is being DDOS’ed and they were trying to use Clouldflare to mitigate that, but they dropped them. You can’t run a web system that people want to attack without major assets for DDOS. Or hosted in cloud systems, like AWS, google? Microsoft?.. not if you have been pariah’ed.

      Your ISP?… will Comcast, Level3, Sprint, Verizon etc not cut off your service if requested? So now you need to hide via a TOR .onion domain. Now your attackers will attempt to exploit your platform, and if you have a single leak in your security they will be able to find where your real servers are hiding, and again DDOS/picket the ISP connection that you were attempting to keep clandestine.

      So, you switch to a TOR .onion domain and attem

      1. AlmightyJB

        Thanks for the explanation. I was just wondering if there were other options because if you can be completed banned from the internet by a handful of people for free speech no matter how asinine that seems to me to be a first amendment issue.

    1. Oh my. I’ll bet she’s a dirty, dirty girl.

    2. Chipwooder

      One thing I gathered from pictures at Sloop’s link – Kellyanne Conway should take care to never been seen next to Hicks. That really does her no favors at all.

    3. Zunalter

      No thanks, way too much eye makeup, weird eye droop shape, and even manicured, like 2x the allowable amount of eyebrow.

  51. The Late P Brooks

    Still, this incident could serve as a good jumping-off point for exploring what roles and responsibilities school officials, teachers, classmates, and community members have (and don’t have) when it comes to young people and radically racist rhetoric or extremist views.

    SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING

    The Ministry of Love needs your help, Citizen.

  52. Why the hell are deadweights so expensive? We’re literally talking about a slug of cast iron with a hole in the middle (and a rustproof coating).

    1. Tundra

      Ummm. The market?

    2. Dude, I’m about to buy a 32kg kettlebell. If I get a nice one we’re talking like $150. It’s a cannonball with a handle.

      1. Absurd, isn’t it?

    3. westernsloper

      Shipping costs? Make your own. Some melamine to make some forms, kerosene for a release agent, sakrete and water.

      1. Michael

        It’s early and I’m not up to full brain speed yet, but I was going to say exactly this. Carting a heavy-as-fuck, single use item around the country surely can’t be cheap.

        1. Yet it’s done all the time with a great many very heavy single-use items. It does not appear to account for the disparity in price.

          The power cage had a shipping weight of 150 pounds, but pound for pound cost less than the plates, despite being a far more complex product.

      2. l0b0t

        This x1000. My dad has been the same dumbbells he cast in our garage back in the mid-1970s.

        1. l0b0t

          Does that count as a John style typo?

    4. Lachowsky

      make your own if you don’t like the price.

    5. Tundra

      The other thing about the more expensive plates/kettlebells/dumbbells the actual weight. The cheaper stuff often has pretty significant variation.

      1. So long as I can get relatively matched pairs, they don’t need to be exactly the listed weight. My process has been “Does this feel heavy? If no, add more weight.” I don’t need to compare my progress to anyone else, I just need to make progress.

        1. Tundra

          Exactly. It makes more of a difference when you are pressing a heavy barbell overhead or something.

    6. Akira

      Protip: Look for used weight sets on Craigslist. You might have to keep checking back every day, but something will pop up eventually.

      People buy weight sets all the time for their new year’s resolution to “finally get in shape”. Unsurprisingly, many of these people never get around to it, and the stuff ends up sitting in the garage for five years, then they sell it for fairly cheap on a classifieds website.

      That’s how I got my bench press for $25.

      1. Tundra

        Or just join a gym and enjoy the motivational fringe benefits.

  53. Gustave Lytton

    From wiki

    During its first 1848 meeting, Maury helped launch the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).

    Ruh roh! I hope the cultural revolutionaries don’t read Wikipedia. Tear down another institution!

    1. Chipwooder

      He fucking loved science, so he’s ok.

      1. Zunalter

        But did he love right-think science?

  54. The Late P Brooks

    Why the hell are deadweights so expensive?

    The live ones run away.

  55. commodious spittoon

    Just touched down in LA. Headed to Goleta this afternoon. I want fish tacos and a bloody Mary stat.

    1. I’m sure there is a sex worker that will fulfill your needs.

  56. Grrr…we’re bad-ass revolutionaries!

    “They need to come down—legally if possible, though we’ll not shed any tears for the toppled Durham monument or any others that meet a similar demise. At minimum, the legislature should allow municipalities to reflect the desires of their residents, not force us to “honor” those who fought in service of white supremacy.”

    1. Slammer

      The slow moving procedural mob instead of fast moving rioters

      1. It’s like a Shaun Of The Dead and 28 Days Later mashup except with rioters instead of zombies. Except, you know, not entertaining at all.

    2. Actually, the Republicans in NC scored an “own goal” (ie., did something dumb) when they expended precious political capital to stop local governments from removing these Confederate monuments through democratic procedures. There’s a reason the Republicans aren’t called “the Genius Party.”

      Now the field is left open for the out-and-out Marxist Leninist Communists, as I have documented re the Workers World Party.

      When someone topples a statue, it’s generally intended as an attack on the regime. That’s certainly how the commies see it:

      “Anti-racist fighters in Durham took matters into their own hands. The Confederate statue toppled down and crumpled into itself. This is the first rope of many to pull down the pillars holding up white supremacy and capitalism.”

      1. Hyperion

        “holding up white supremacy and capitalism

        And now the truth starts to leak out.

        1. Zunalter

          I like how all the proggy groups tack that bit on the end of their screeds. I remember reading almost the exact same thing regarding feminism tearing down patriarchy…and capitalism.

    3. Michael

      …the Workers World Party…

      These clowns are straight-up legit DPRK apologists. They don’t even bother with apologia and whitewashing in that they admit the regimes murderous tendencies and actually defend them. These are the people that the media is hailing as heroes right now. I kid you the fuck not.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        If the media wasn’t totally up to their neck in it, five minutes of research would give a very interesting who’s behind the agitators story.

        1. Yeah, they’re basically screaming from the rooftops, “hello, look at us, we’re communists and we love Lenin, peace be upon him! And hands off the North Korean nuke program, we are in solidarity with North Korea!”

          1. Hyperion

            They support Maduro just as enthusiastically. The Democrats are going to wear that hat, whether they really want to or not, they’ve done bought and paid for it.

    4. “When this seventy-five-foot-tall monument to the Confederate dead was proposed, Republicans and populists argued that its $22,000 cost would be better spent on education.”

      Does. Not. Compute!

    5. R C Dean

      At minimum, the legislature should allow municipalities to reflect the desires of their residents,

      And if the majority of those residents don’t want them torn down?

      How many of the antifa goons in Charlottesville were locals, anyway? Oh, I guess we’ll never know because they wore masks and walked away free as little birds.

      1. That’s just concern-trolling, they mean “let local governments do what *we* want.”

  57. Raston Bot

    fucking Slate won’t be happy until both 1A and 2A are gutted. “progressive” has become a pejorative.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/08/the_first_and_second_amendments_clashed_in_charlottesville_the_guns_won.html

    1. spqr2008

      Arms = Car now? Well, that’s one way to ban fossil fuels.

      1. WTF

        Yeah, the guns won without a shot being fired.

  58. Lachowsky

    new childrens book.

    http://imgur.com/6R1no4s

    1. Hyperion

      Fitting.

    1. One of the arrestees, Peter Gilbert is a Workers World activist

          1. Chipwooder

            I am shocked, SHOCKED, to discover that members of a Commie front group are behind this. I thought there was no violent alt-left! It’s all nice college students and grandmothers and shit.

          2. Front group? They’re a Marxist-Leninist Communist party.

          3. Chipwooder

            maybe I’m confusing them with the IWW

          4. Apparently the IWW was also there.

          5. Lachowsky

            Front Group?

            No, they think they are the vanguard.

          6. R C Dean

            Isn’t the vanguard the group in front?

          7. Lachowsky

            As I understand, a front group is the one pushing the message and the vanguard is the group enforcing it when the revolution happens.

          8. Zunalter

            +1 Francis Fox Piven

          9. “Free Palestine and end the occupation! Black lives matter — disarm the cops! Stop killing queer and trans women! Free Mumia and all political prisoners! Stop exploiting youth and workers! We need a socialist revolution!”

          10. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Free Mumia!

            Thanks for self-identifying as an idiot.

          11. Negroni Please

            Free Mumia*

            *With purchase of Mumia of equal or greater value

          12. Scruffy Nerfherder

            This was the city I grew up in after my family and I migrated from Viet Nam. I had always had a weird feeling about the place and over the past two decades, the development, gentrification and corporatization only confirmed my perception of the city as so heavily laden with power and greed.

            The lack of self-awareness is only mildly shocking.

          13. R C Dean

            the city as so heavily laden with power and greed

            “And then I realized, hey, I want power. I’m greedy. I wanna play!”

          14. Viking1865

            >This was the city I grew up in after my family and I migrated from Viet Nam.

            A kid I went to HS with lived in a big old rambling house with all his relatives. They flew the flag of the vanished RSVN in front of his house, right under the Stars and Stripes and the VA state flag. His grandad had managed to escape with his wife, his widowed sister, and most of the kids. Grandad and his brother were officers in the ARVN. Grandad’s brother wasn’t able to make it to the boat. He was either killed in the fighting or was murdered by the Communists after the fighting.

          15. Akira

            development, gentrification and corporatization

            People are running successful enterprises, providing jobs, and building things! Oh the horror!!

    2. R C Dean

      Good. Of course, it would have been much better to arrest them on the spot. Because we’ve marinated in photographs for days now of people toppling the statue, posing with the statue, etc. that are rather triumphal. Those images set the tone, and the tone is “vandalize and destroy, and you will be celebrated”.

    3. Pomp

      Those mugshots…..sweet young doughey activists. Not a one looking hardened like Stalin in his youth mugshot. Probably not a one missing toes due to frostbite either.

  59. Hey, the local news is showing some curiosity!

    “DURHAM (WTVD) — Recently, you’ve heard ABC11 reporting that members of the Workers World Party (WWP) are being accused of destroying a Confederate statue in Durham. But what exactly is the WWP?…

    “The group says they’re “dedicated to organizing and fighting for a socialist revolution in the United States and around the world.””

    Not to mention siding with North Korea in its nuclear confrontation with the U. S.,, though the article didn’t seem to have time for that.

    1. Tundra

      There are going to be a lot of backpeddling proggies very shortly. Mine literally have no clue that no-shit commies are running the show.

      1. AlexinCT

        I wouldn’t expect that these days anymore..

        The left has lost its collective mind, and what used to make people immediately disassociate themselves with from the commies no longer causes the same consternation, and even provides some opportunity for some heavy virtue signaling.

        1. Akira

          I remember the days when the Democrats used to disavow communism/socialism and insisted that they just wanted to implement some helpful social programs.

          2008: “We are NOT socialists! We just want affordable health care for everyone!”

          2016: “We’re democratic socialists, which means we just want a lot of government programs like Sweden. We don’t want to turn the country into North Korea or Venezuela or anything!”

          2020: “North Korea is decades ahead of us on women’s rights, not to mention that they have no problem with hate speech because their benevolent government regulates it. Why can’t we achieve that kind of progress here??”

          1. AlexinCT

            I think Fauxahonta’s, or is it Liawhata’s, latest speech and the reception to it, absolutely underscores your premise of the direction this is taking. Communism is evil and dehumanizing in practice, regardless of how woke and nice they can make it look on paper or in prose, but the usual scumbags are selling it again claiming the over 120 million killed and billions that suffered or continue to suffer under its yoke do so because the right people (them) have not been in charge of it.

            Any system that requires the “right people” in charge to prevent the shit from really hitting the fan, is one prone to tyranny and tyrannical people. Point out that their pants shitting is happening because the weaponized government they created for Queen Hillary now is Trumps to use, and they still don’t get it.

    2. Lachowsky

      The proltariat revolution is just around the corner, comrade.

      Keep your Kale chips dry

    3. Michael

      I somehow almost forgot that they were also vehemently defending Slobodan Milosevic as an “anti-imperialist” back around the turn of the century. Once again – I shit you not, my friends.

      1. Michael

        Somebody really needs to get to work and start mentioning them in tandem with McAuliffe at every opportunity.

        1. Virginia isn’t North Carolina.

          1. Michael

            I know that, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Workers World had a contingent at both places.

      2. R C Dean

        Damn, I’m old. When I see “the turn of the century”, I think 1900.

        1. Michael

          You’re not alone. I just now became accustomed to saying it in reference to the most recent turn of the millennium.

  60. mexican sharpshooter

    Don’t ever change DuffelBlogWest Point Revokes Diplomas Of Confederate Graduates

    But this is no small matter,” he added. “A revoked graduate status means they will no longer be able to order transcripts, obtain early tickets for West Point football games, or receive their 10 percent discount at the Cadet Bookstore.”

    The ceremony will be held next week, when cadets will symbolically burn hundreds of recreated, historically accurate diplomas in a bonfire at the cadet monument. After the diplomas are consumed in the blaze, the monument will be torn down, since it was built to honor Vincent Lowe, a cadet who died in an 1817 artillery misfire and had an uncle who once owned a slave, explained a source familiar with the event.

    Jackson also said that USMA leaders are debating the merits of removing Gen. Robert E. Lee’s half of the Appomattox surrender document that ended the Civil War, currently stored in the Cadet Library.

    1. fake news

      The “reporter” was Maxx Buttheart

      1. Butthurt

        But I don’t think you were vouching for the story

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          It’s a satire site.

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        Wait, Snopes wasted their time on this!? That’s really sad.

    2. Zunalter

      The site looks like a knock-off onion site for military themed stories.

      1. Zunalter

        Jackson also said that USMA leaders are debating the merits of removing Gen. Robert E. Lee’s half of the Appomattox surrender document that ended the Civil War, currently stored in the Cadet Library.

        Best line.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        cuz it is?

      3. R C Dean

        It is. Its frequently quite funny, although a lot of the jokes can be kind of opaque to non-military folks.

        1. Chipwooder

          Probably. I’d imagine non-veterans don’t get many of the references. It’s damned funny to me most of the time.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            I think the best one was a couple years back where they made up a story about the Army switching to the 1st Cav Stetson as its primary headgear.

      4. John Titor

        Despite their Mattis stories sounding like things he’s actually capable of, it is the military Onion.

  61. Viking1865

    http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/u-s-has-3-5-million-more-registered-voters-than-live-adults-a-red-flag-for-electoral-fraud/

    There are 3.5 million more registered voters in this country then there are living adults.

    1. Zunalter

      Nothing to see here.

    2. Tundra

      Racist!

    3. R C Dean

      And that doesn’t count the number of living adults who aren’t citizens but nonetheless are registered and vote.

    4. Raston Bot

      i’d accept that 85% of that is local board of elections incompetence.

      1. AlexinCT

        Is it incompetence when it is done on purpose to help a specific political party?

        1. Viking1865

          Yeah the IRS wasn’t lazy or incompetent when it came to auditing EVERY SINGLE group that incorporated as “__________ Tea Party”

      2. R C Dean

        I would bet that a lot of those surplus registrations are people who moved or have two homes. I moved to AZ 4 years ago; I wonder if I’m still registered in TX?

        Although the concentration of them in big cities is . . . interesting.

    5. F. Stupidity Jr.

      Ron Bailey will use his powers of science to explain why that’s not a real problem, and that if anyone is rigging elections, it’s the Republicans.

      I mean, the man’s a science writer! Are you a science writer??

      1. Zunalter

        Science.

        Yes.

    6. mr simple

      The most shocking thing to me is that 21 states don’t have a population of 3.5 million people.

      1. Gadfly

        ~300 million people spread out over 50 states and that’s not too shocking.

  62. Zunalter

    the Virginia Democrat Governor encouraged all cities in the Commonwealth to tear down their confederate monuments and put them in museums.

    Where should we put the monuments once the useful idiots start firebombing the museums these are moved to?

    1. R C Dean

      Why anybody pretends that a statue on a street or in a public park should be torn down because it is morally repellent, but the exact same statue in a statuary park, a museum, or on private property is not morally repellent and should be left alone, is beyond me.

      1. They *don’t* say that, except tactically.

      2. spqr2008

        I personally think its exactly the same level of moral repugnance, but think that a compromise solution is in order. Plus, I deeply enjoy the thought that city governments run mostly by Democrats will waste a huge amount of money moving the statues and creating statuary parks.

        1. R C Dean

          a compromise solution is in order

          Not me. The only solution I am open to is the antifa fucks and misc. Year Zero lefty idiots shut their pie holes and go away.

          A compromise is a deal both sides will honor. The antifa fucks and lefty idiots never intend to honor any deal.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      I saw that coming up on Facebook in the last few days. Apparently the only way you can learn form history is if its in a controlled environment like a museum. The thing is, how many people do you ever really see at museums?

      Other than the Smithsonian, these are almost always empty.

      1. WTF

        I see you have never been to any of the museums in NYC.

  63. RAHeinlein

    Aren’t statues and monuments art? Why do Democrats and Proggies hate art?

    1. The Zenome Project

      The urban left are the arbiters of taste and aesthetic, unless it is loved by folks that we don’t like, then it’s worth destroying.

    2. Gilmore

      blah blah blah blah “celebrates evil” blah blah blah blah

  64. Pope Jimbo

    So will people demand that the Memphis Pyramid be torn down because those Egyptians were some big time slave owners?

    1. Zunalter

      That’s racist!

  65. mexican sharpshooter

    Totally OT: Anybody ever use one of those resume writing services? I’ve been getting a bunch of messages on LinkedIn from these people and I haven’t been having as much luck on that front as of late.

    I get the feeling that part of it is the uncertainty in healthcare is making some reassess their hiring needs but also my workplace is in the news every month so some might think I’m trying to run away–or possibly an idiot.

  66. The Late P Brooks

    Random question:

    Is there a “face” of the so-called anti-fascist movement? Is there a particular individual or organization who may be counted upon to articulate the motives and goals of this “movement”?

    The media are eager to point to Milo, or Bannon, or others on Team Fascism. Where are their counterparts on the other side? Where can I find the antifa handbook?

    1. Private Chipperbot

      According to the MSM there is no movement. It’s just a natural gathering of angels doing the lord’s work of fighting the Nazis.

      1. R C Dean

        But I thought spontaneous order was a myth? That nothing good happens without the support and guidance of government, or at least Top Men?

        1. Private Chipperbot
    2. KibbledKristen

      Linda Sarsour seems to be a big one. Which makes me LOL. She’s a bigtime fascist.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        And anti-semite, and she wants to “take away Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s vagina” for speaking out against Islam, and…

    3. I believe it’s on purpose to not have a face to the organization. Harder to demonize a group than an individual.

      Richard Spencer has done jack squat to really impact peoples lives but now he’s persona non grata at the local gym because he’s so triggering.

  67. KibbledKristen

    Open floor plans are just fine for marketing, HR, etc. When I was a web developer, and we went to an open floor plan, it was a fricken nightmare.

    How the fuck are you supposed to do a rigorous and thorough QA on products when there’s a jillion people around you yakking and carrying on?

  68. The Late P Brooks

    Maybe this new strategem of calling for all offensive memorials to be moved into “museums” is based on the knowledge that the vast majority of museum collections are not on display.

    “We will take this statue into our collection of historical artifacts for preservation and safekeeping” translates neatly into “We’ll be locking this offensive crap up in warehouses, where nobody can see it.”

    1. R C Dean

      Excellent point. I would add one thing:

      where nobody can see it and nobody will notice when we get rid of it in a few years

      1. Number.6

        Well, the ‘getting rid of it’ part is where the street-theater comes in.

        A politely worded request (and threat of subsequent action) to McAuliffe resulting in a program of orderly statue removal to storage wouldn’t have the same heroic impact.

        1. spqr2008

          And that’s why I like the statuary parks idea, because it’s much harder to disappear a statue from a park than it is some storage site.

  69. Juvenile Bluster

    So Trump’s going to hold a rally in Phoenix on Tuesday, where he’s expected to pardon Joe Arpaio, because of course he is.

    1. Jesus, I hope not. That asshole deserves to sit in a cell until he dies.

      Trump has handled himself well this week, in my opinion. This would undo a lot of that.

      1. Viking1865

        He was denied his right to a jury trial. Would be great if Trump pardoned him explicitly on those grounds.

        “The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.”

        1. kbolino

          He’s being denied a jury trial because the sentence is six months or less, and the Supreme Court found some invisible ink in the Constitution. It would be really nice if we fixed that problem rather than just pardon one schmuck who had his rights denied to him in the same way many other people have.

      2. In your eyes, but to most of his supporters it would be an act of heroism.

  70. KibbledKristen

    Watched one of the craziest live police chases ever last night. All of the live news helicopters cut away before the end. Was kind of sad when I woke up this morning and Googled the outcome. That’s a helluva way to go.

    1. Number.6

      Kinda surprising the newsies were principled enough to deny him his 15-seconds of fame.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Well, he was buck naked, so I’m not sure their cutting away from the story was based on any principle other than “OMG! Peeeeeenizzzz! Run away!!”

        1. Number.6

          So, TMZ then?

    2. KibbledKristen

      As it was happening, I was wondering how the dude was just able to drive all the way into the Port of Los Angeles, in and among the cranes, right next to ships. Looks like some other folks are wondering the same thing.

  71. R C Dean

    And, as confidently predicted earlier this week, slave-owning Presidents are next on the list for purification.

    A Chicago pastor has asked the Emanuel administration to remove the names of two presidents who owned slaves from parks on the South Side, saying the city should not honor slave owners in black communities.

    A bronze statue of George Washington on horseback stands at the corner of 51st and King Drive, at the northwest entrance to Washington Park.

    Of course, “remove the names” is utterly inadequate for “not honoring slave owners” with statues, and there’s no reason to stop at “in black communities”. They are after the statue; once they get agreement on removing the names, I am 100% confident the statue will come down.

    Now, the Washington Monument in DC is a different question, as it is an obelisk, not a statue. That one, they might rename (any bets the first proposal won’t be to rename it after our first black President?). The Jefferson Monument in DC is the middle case – will it be enough to replace the statue and rename it, or will the whole thing just need to be razed?

    1. KibbledKristen

      Let’s replace them all with monuments to Frederick Douglass (noted capitalism fan) and Harriet Tubman (noted firearms fan).

      1. Let’s not replace them at all. Let’s just leave what’s already had government money spent on it there, sake as all the stuff paid for with private money. And if people want to erect anything going forward, it can be done without any public funds or public land set aside for it.

        1. KibbledKristen

          I was mostly being facetious. The Left likes to lionize people based on race, without knowing much about them. If I went to a protest and declared that we should put up a statue to Frederick Douglass, I’d be cheered.

          This Frederick Douglass:

          Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.

          People might not get all they work for in this world, but they must certainly work for all they get.

          The attempts to place holding property in the soil—on the same footing as holding property in man, was most lame and impotent. And the wonder is that anyone could listen with patience to such arrant nonsense.

          1. BigT

            Nice!!

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      *Dons tinfoil hat*

      That will only happen when the Free Masons want that to happen.

      *Doffs tinfoil hat*

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        In all seriousness, I don’t think they will go this far once the racist histories of presidents they do like with monuments (ahem FDR, Johnson) is pointed out.

        1. Rename the Washington Monument the Johnson Monument.

    3. l0b0t

      Hell, Jello Biafra was calling the Washington Monument “The Great Eternal Klansman” and calling for its destruction in the early 1980s. Young naive punk rock l0b0t thought it was the absolute height of teenage rebellion. Sigh…

    4. saying the city should not honor slave owners in black communities.

      Who’s being divisive now? These aren’t black communities. They’re communities in American cities. Anybody is free to move in or out of them. Labeling them of a particular race is the verbal equivalent of segregating them. That serves no positive purpose I can think of and diminishes any form of racial “healing” that is yet to occur.

      You want blacks in Chicago to feel better about relations with whites and power structures? Stop letting your fucking police in that city beat them, frame them, kill them and deny them basic rights to self defense without holding them accountable when they do so.

      1. peachy rex

        You know what’s immediately to the east of Washington Park? The University of Chicago, and a neighborhood with a whole lotta honkies and honorary honkies (formerly known as Asians.)

    5. Salami tactics – start by circumcising the Washington Monument, then snip off more and more bits until it’s gone.

    6. BigT

      “. That one, they might rename (any bets the first proposal won’t be to rename it after our first black President?).”

      Big black dick?

  72. KibbledKristen

    Kill ’em all, let god sort ’em out. Amirite?

  73. John

    http://www.laweekly.com/music/little-known-fact-woody-guthrie-was-a-big-ol-racist-2412272

    Woody Gutherie was a racist. More proof God has a sense of humor and invented Progressives to be his straight man.

    1. KibbledKristen

      Dare I read the comments on that article?

      1. Tundra

        They are incredible! Like this:

        Just hate this casual retrospective shaming of the dead. Different times, different values. But Guthrie spoke for the poor and the oppressed – but he can’y speak for himself now – nothing better to write about?

        OMG, I’m dying! These fucking morons are light years beyond parody.

        1. KibbledKristen

          That’s pretty much what I was expecting.

          Same applies to Robert E. Lee, non?

          1. Tundra

            Or Tom Jefferson. Or that guy who was 20 feet tall, fucking killing for fun…

        2. “Guthrie spoke for the poor and the oppressed”

          Who can forget his songs “Gulag Blues” and “Uncle Joe, stop killing and enslaving people”? /sarc

    2. Tundra

      That’s priceless. For some twisted reason, that makes my day!

      1. John

        It does mine too.

      2. John

        I put it up on Facebook with the tag “I guess that machine didn’t just kill fascists”. So far complete silence from my Prog friends.

  74. KibbledKristen

    Anyone know which part of the Constitution this utter minge is referring to? The Super Secret section?

    1. Dr Mossy Lawn

      You know it is a bad reading of Holmes’s opinion in Schenck v US, which has clearly been superseded by Brandenburg v. Ohio. for content that isn’t protected by the 1st Amendment.

      Using the “Fire” statement is an instant indicator that you are an idiot, and in Piers’ case, redundant.

      1. Dr Mossy Lawn

        We should call it “Holmes’ Law”.. like “Godwin’s Law” If you use “Fire”, you automatically loose the argument.

      2. KibbledKristen

        He literally said it was part of the US Constitution. Not part of SCOTUS case law or precedent. Part of the Constitution. He’s way more ignorant than you’re giving him credit for!

        1. Dr Mossy Lawn

          It is Twitter, “Fire” is related to the constitution via a well known court case:

          We don’t expect:

          According to Justice Holmes’s decision in Schneck v US, The 1st Amendment of the US Constitution does not ban laws that punish inflammatory speech such as “Falsely yelling ‘Fire’ In a crowded theater”. I therefore state that this speech of “Nazi’s” is similar and therefor is also unprotected.

          Now, given the amount that “Fire” has been fisked in recent memory make him an idot, not the shortcut phrasing.

          1. trshmnstr

            It would be more intelligent sounding if Brandenburg wasn’t literally on point (klansman being arrested for inflammatory speech).

          2. Dr Mossy Lawn

            It is like quoting Dread Scott to bolster an argument, or the 3/5’s text.

            https://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk

        2. Dr Mossy Lawn

          He is attempting to use “Fire” as a Godwin. A totem to shut down opposition, and signal his good think and love of the Constitution (except for that 2nd Amendment part, that can go). As a Britt talking down to Americans he has to Brittsplain that telling these people to shut-up isn’t blocked by that un European 1st amendment protections that those little people over there love so much.. (Across the pond talking)

    2. Number.6

      Oh please. Piers is just a lovable bell-end, and while he’s not exactly a national treasure, he possibly has sufficient heft to be considered a monumental bell-end.

      And we all know what should be done to undesirable monuments at the moment …

      1. KibbledKristen

        (did I do OK with my British insult?)

        1. Number.6

          Not at all bad, although slang changes as fast back there as it does here, but the target is of the right age-cohort to take an appropriate level of offense, if his ego permitted it.

          A solid 8/10.

    3. Number.6

      The thing is that Piers really is like the cargo-cultist south-sea islanders that Feynman talked about.

      He constructs these pop-culture simulacra of the articles and Bill of Rights, simplifies them to satisfy his (possibly sincere) wish to inform the public, and then utterly whiffs because his simplification guts the principles behind them, rendering them absurd to everyone with a more reliable grasp of reality than your average Daily Mail reader. When challenged his ego inflates to preposterous size and he doubles- and quadruples- down.

      Gell-Mann is alive and well, and when it comes to US Conlaw, the average Piers reader in the UK’s exposure will be the summation of an appellate judge in one of those hideous episodes of Law & Order, and they’re utterly incapable of decoding Piers’ utter bunkum. The fact that they’ve been

      1. Number.6

        … disarmed and cuckified so effectively since the 60’s means they’re incapable of anything more demanding than mindlessly absorbing his dreck.

  75. The Late P Brooks

    where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them

    Awesome.