Tuesday Morning Links

While the sun and moon were doing their dance across (white) America, there was some baseball being played.  And while it may have been unsafe or unwise to look directly at the eclipse, because not a single person ever looked directly at the sun until Trump did for a second the other day, I asked at least a dozen people who were directly in the path if they snuck a glance and every single one of them said yes. Oh well, social signalers gotta social signal.

Anyway, the sports ball! The Twins and the White Sox split a double-bill. The Orioles won. The Indians walked off the Red Sox on a little league play.  And that’s pretty much it.  The Browns improve to 2-0 in preseason games after beating the Giants.  OBJ left with an ankle sprain. And across the pond, Everton and Man Shitty played to a 1-1 draw. Oh, and the McGregor-Mayweather hype machine is kicking into high gear in anticipation of the fight of the century lopsided beatdown that’s inevitably coming.

Alright, lets talk some serious business. And the place to do that is…the links!

Trump announces recommitment to Afghan conflict “as long as we see determination and progress” from the Afghan government. No plans were released as to the number of troops, but Trump did say he will demand cooperation from the Afghans and other regional “allies” if we are to continue investing blood and treasure in the 16 year war.  Shit. I had hoped he’d just pull the plug, as he alluded to during the campaign.  Cue up the anti-war protests getting ready to find their principles again. (Except Cindy Sheehan. That lady has been doing her thing through both the last admins, so kudos to her for being genuine and sincere in her protests.)

This doesn’t look like a cyber crime

The US Navy is concerned about cyber threats in the wake of recent collisions. Hey, I’m no genius, but unless those standing watch are hooked to VR headsets, there ain’t anything “cyber” that would keep them from spotting a freaking supertanker that’s lit up like Christmas.

Unless you’ve been under a rock for 60 years, this will be no surprise to you.  Hell, I’m just happy there’s an Uber in this day and age to get party guests home alive. Its better than carpooling with one of the hosts.

Its pretty damn sad when newspapers have to write op-eds defending the position that a statue of Christopher Columbus be left up. Pretty damn sad indeed, in an age when people should be able to walk past an inanimate object that never caused them a moment’s distress, that we are being forced to have this conversation. Even worse is that we are being forced to do so because a group of national socialists and a group of international socialists can’t keep from being assholes.  Well, for that reason and because our retarded-ass media are covering aforementioned groups off assholes like they represent half of the country.

THE GOVERNMENT MUST DO SOMETHING OR WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE A SLOW, PAINLESS DEATH!!!!!  Well, that could be the alternate headline in a sane universe. But its not.  The article is full of hand-wringing at how previous environmental building regulations have led to urban sprawl, which is now leading to increased vehicular emissions. And the guys to solve that can be no other than the guys that caused it to begin with.  (Yeah, I know. These bootlickers just gotta appeal to authority because who better to manage their lives than unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats.)

A pair of idiots

The sharks are circling. And it won’t just be Debbie Wasserman-Schultz that gets caught up in the feeding frenzy. Every single person involved in their hiring and retention of the Awan brothers, even after it was known they “lost” quite a bit of equipment, is gonna face the music.  Most media outlets, namely those who are afraid democracy will die in darkness and a self-proclaimed “paper of record” seem unimpressed with the story. But I have confidence our tweeter-in-chief will make sure it doesn’t get overlooked elsewhere.

(Speaking of Democracy Dying In Darkness, I’m shocked they didn’t have a picture of Trump right under those words as the eclipse reached its local apex. That would have been a Pulitzer-worthy bit of virtue signaling. And they blew it. Although I have a feeling they may get their chance at the next eclipse in 2023.

And in local news, some crazy asshole tried to plant a bomb on a confederate monument a mile from where Banjos works. The whole area went apeshit over it but they ended up getting him arrested without setting anything off. And the proposed solution: give in to crazy people that would do this.  Gutless bunch of cowards.  The answer to an extortion threat is to quote Liam Neeson, not to succumb. These dickheads won’t stop until they’ve destroyed every institution they don’t like. And giving them an inch at the outset is the wrong signal to send.

I can still do this every day. I don’t need a solar event.

Make sure to tell somebody you love them today.  It’ll make both of you happy.

Comments

655 responses to “Tuesday Morning Links”

    1. Dammit, I even bothered to read what Sloopy wrote before posting.

      1. DEG

        Slow morning.

    1. So they added Weed and Mexicans to their platform?

    2. ElspethFlashman

      Sweet, then I will blend right in, right?

    3. PieInTheSKy

      Sadly you can’t get a decent cocktail in Australia.

    4. straffinrun

      Drink! or, uh, Guzzle!

    5. Photo #2, girl on the far left with the “Sluts Say Yes” shirt. Wood.

      1. Negroni Please

        Didn’t click the link, but this is the Sex Change Party right? That’s probably not a girl.

        1. invisible furry hand

          Nope, it’s the Sex Party that exists to promote freaky fun with social democratic welfare policies. It was formed by lobbyists from the sex industry.

          1. DEG

            Angela White ran for office in Victoria under the Sex Party. Interview with Angela White.

            In 2007, she enrolled in a bachelor of arts in gender studies at the University of Melbourne, and graduated with first-class honours in 2010. She had wanted to study journalism, but became more interested in the roots of the reactions she received when said she was a porn star.

            “People would reel back and ask, ‘Aren’t you degraded?’” she says. “‘Don’t people just humiliate you on set?’ There were a lot of feminist arguments being thrown at me about the subordination of women. So I started reading feminist arguments and trying to understand where all this negativity was coming from, and why people were thinking this wasn’t a choice I had made.”

            White felt she should master the case against pornography and articulate her own experiences “so that people know there is another side”. At first, she didn’t tell most of her fellow students she was a sex worker because she wanted to absorb and understand their opinions, rather than be “talked at”. She only came out as porn star to her class when she wrote her honours thesis.

            Books such as The Other Hollywood: The Uncensored Oral History of the Porn Film Industry show the early US adult movie business was controlled by gangsters. White insists it’s not like that now, and she was “treated far better in the adult industry, with far more respect, than I ever was at Burger King”.

            Later in the article:

            In 2010, she stood as the Sex Party candidate in the Victorian state election and won 2.9 per cent of the vote. She ran specifically to oppose local Greens aspirant Kathleen Maltzahn who – in a departure from Greens policy – advocated banning brothels which, White feared, would drive prostitution underground.

          2. BigT

            ““treated far better in the adult industry, with far more respect, than I ever was at Burger King”.

            You had it your way?

            Or

            Did it take two hands to handle those whoppers?

        2. Don’t other her / you / me / that fat guy sobbing in the corner, you cis-shitlord

      2. The Elite Elite

        She looks like the type to ruin your life with a rape allegation. Hell, given their “party” they all probably would do that.

        1. wdalasio

          ‘People are sick of irrational politics.

          Yeah, because nothing says “the height of rationality and rational thinking” like displaying your goods for the world to see an demanding a fainting couch when anybody dares to look at them.

          1. Don’t be silly. They only complain when ugly people look at them. Ugly people should know not to gaze upon their betters.

      3. Scruffy Nerfherder

        “If I dress slutty, it’s for my pleasure, not yours….”

        Serial masturbater I guess.

        1. Jarflax

          Nothing gives her more pleasure than being offended by the male gaze

    6. ifh!!! Good to see you!

      1. invisible furry hand

        And you too 🙂

        1. SugarFree

          I was getting worried some sort of vicious native fauna had gotten to you.

          1. invisible furry hand

            I’m only back for Hat and Hair and horror porn, you know. You don’t seem to be updating your blog with them. Don’t tell me you’ve stopped. Or have you finally seen sense and published them?

          2. He is having trouble gathering enough human hides to bind the books…

          3. invisible furry hand

            Surely if we all donate an orphan each…

          4. Negroni Please

            Donate? DONATE? You’re libertarianing wrong again

          5. SugarFree

            No, I’ve moved them over to this site exclusively in order to support our venture. Glibertarians.com is run by a couple of dozen of us from the Hit & Run diaspora.

            This will get you to everything since I stopped updating my Blogger site:

            https://glibertarians.com/category/topics-n-s/sugarfree/

          6. invisible furry hand

            Wow. Thanks, I think.

            Women Wednesday: The Science of Vaginal Feeding is Settled

            Oh Lordy.

            Be careful what you wish for, eh?

          7. SugarFree

            Yeah, I really am a bit of a cautionary tale.

    7. Q Continuum

      Nothing’s sexier than preachy, humorless, liberal scolding. Funny how the libertines of years past have transformed into puritans.

      1. DEG

        Not all of them are. See my link above about Angela White.

    8. Evan from Evansville

      From the Daily Fail:

        1. DEG

          Wow

          1. BakedPenguin

            Second.

      1. invisible furry hand

        Intriguing…

      2. Mad Scientist

        Has she had collagen injections in her hips or something? The top half of her body looks fantastic, but it seems to be attached to the bottom half of Rosie O’Donnell.

      3. invisible furry hand

        The Birmingham native…

        Well she’d sound dead sexy then

  1. PieInTheSKy

    Enough with the damn eclipse already we had one around 1999 here with best views from Romania. It was rubbish. Nonsense. Overhype. And I was a kid at the time

    1. But it’s the newest New Moon you’ll ever get! And that mean ol’ daystar gets one-upped!

      1. PBRstreetgang

        And it was yesterday, soooo a “New Moon on Monday”?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3a4OTh2Y8w

        1. invisible furry hand

          Did you get a Union of the Snake out of it?

          1. Private Chipperbot

            This response is just a Reflex to bad puns.

          2. Tundra

            Uh oh, this thread is about to Come Undone.

          3. Is there something I should know about these puns?

          4. In an Ordinary World, this kind of subthread doesn’t happen.

          5. invisible furry hand

            I’m sure similar threads exist elsewhere, but I can’t think where. I have a Careless Memory for such things, sadly

          6. Grummun

            Is there something I should know about these puns?

            Were you an adolescent girl in the late ’80s? Then, no.

          7. Were you an adolescent girl in the late ’80s? Then, no.

            Arguably their least catchy tune. The worst on Planet Earth, I bet.

          8. Tundra

            Is There Anyone Out There who isn’t punning?

          9. The Chauffeur is going to drive me away from this subthread.

          10. Glibertarians are notorious for their bad puns.

          11. SDF-7

            I hear Zardoz is not a big fan of them… too much synthesizer. Or as I believe he said: THE PIANIST IS EVIL. THE PUN IS GOOD.

    2. grrizzly

      No way. This eclipse was the best. We saw the total eclipse in East Tennessee. Huge crowds, temperatures dropped. Awesome. It was the second eclipse for my partner: he saw one in 1999, too.

  2. straffinrun

    2 members of Kennedy family arrested on Cape Cod after noise complaints

    Did it sound like someone pounding on a car window?

    1. Brett L

      Close it up. This wins the internet today.

      1. DEG

        Seconded.

    2. PBRstreetgang

      I know this is Swiss’s job but allow me:
      l **stands to rapturous applause**

      1. *joins in thunderous ovation*

        1. *thumbs down* It doesn’t warrent such an overblown reaction.

          1. westernsloper

            *joins in the thunderous ovation that drowns out UCS

          2. bacon-magic

            Too spicy for UnCivil. *makes note on clipboard*

          3. Too droll. If you’re going to annotate, get things right.

    3. LJW

      So wrong, so funny.

    4. WTF

      Nice!

    5. Tundra

      Damn. Nice job, sraffin!

    6. Damn. I had a comment, but it’s worthless now.

    7. Scruffy Nerfherder

      *bows*

  3. Democrats long for Obama’s return

    Some Democrats are pushing for Obama to have a more elevated role, but Obama has made clear he is wary of sliding back into the role of party leader, which could prevent new leaders from emerging.

    Democrats acknowledge that being stuck in the Obama era is a concern, but say the party can’t afford to have him on the sidelines.

    “Democrats badly need Barack Obama,” said Brad Bannon, a Democratic strategist. “He offers such a vivid contrast to Trump in behavior and temperament.”

    “He always sounded reasonable and acted responsibly even if you disagreed with him,” Bannon continued. “None of the potential Democratic presidential candidates have the visibility or credibility to be effective.”

    You mean the guy who lost the Dems the State, Senate, and various state houses… and the Olympics. He’s practically radioactive.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Didn’t know you could trade Obama return futures

    2. invisible furry hand

      After three days He will rise again

      1. Meh, I’d rather vote for Solomon Grundy.

        1. PBRstreetgang

          I can never hear or read “Solomon Grundy” without thinking of this:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUIPlLw2ZE

          1. Waterfall Insurance

            I always think of this mid 90s cartoon Network commercial https://youtu.be/eGQEAiZJMco

          2. Gdragon

            So happy to see this posted already. Whenever I see a link or a joke that I wanted to post I smile and think about how happy I am that this place exists.

          3. Not Adahn

            Most excellent extensions dude.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAbokV76tkU

    3. Chipwooder

      He acted responsibly….well, other than drawing red lines that he had no intention of enforcing, ramming through a massive piece of legislation that no one actually understood which has caused any number of bad things to happen, spied on millions of American citizens, murdered American citizens via drone strikes, used the IRS to attack his political enemies. Other than that? Totally responsible.

    4. Q Continuum

      “Brad Bannon”

      Mirror universe Steve Bannon with a goatee?

  4. invisible furry hand

    OK people who know stuff about ‘Merican football, should I spend a precious day of the weekend watching this

    1. Brett L

      Stanford is a good team, Rice is not. Expect to see a pounding.

      1. Drake

        True. I probably won’t be a competitive game, but…. Complete with a Frat Party, all you can eat seats, cheerleaders, live entertainment, the official tailgate post and pre party… I’m in.

        1. As God is my witness, I read that as all you can eat cheerleaders

        2. Negroni Please

          Plus rooting for anything is waaaay more fun if your speaking Aussie…

        3. straffinrun

          Your ticket includes;
          – 2 Free Budweiser’s (vouchers included)
          – Dedicated Frat bar.
          – Prizes for Best Dressed on the day
          – Live DJ and entertainment

          God, I wish it was Duke playing.

    2. Tundra

      Not if you have socks to sort or paint to watch dry!

    3. Not Adahn

      Dooo eeeet.

      Although the play will probably be sloppy, since the QBs won’t have had time to get used to the reversed coriolis effect.

    4. spqr2008

      Only reason to watch is if they’ll show the halftime show with Rice’s Band (they like to denigrate their opponents and rivals in every show, very funny, but I’m not sure if their band made it down under).

    5. KibbledKristen

      Will Stanford be bringing their “marching” band? Because they are pretty awesome.

      1. invisible furry hand

        Unclear. Some sort of marching band action is offered, but its provenance is not specified

        1. KibbledKristen

          See if you can find out if the band will be there!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH9xedB1h2E&t=77s

          1. Tundra

            Are they still under suspension?

            Apparently they were having too much fun.

          2. invisible furry hand

            Good Lord. There was a related video saying they’ve been banned for drunken hi-jinks or something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws1pcQyyDhw

          3. Tundra

            Really? 😉

          4. KibbledKristen

            So they want them to give up their student-run structure and go with a “professional”, who will undoubtedly be chosen by the stiffs in the administration and will turn them into some kind of lockstep Sousa mess.

          5. We are Lockstep Sousa Mess and we are here to rock you!

      2. Evan from Evansville

        So Radiohead played one of their songs at the Grammy’s with a marching band. Yeah, I don’t care about awards ceremonies but it was a fucking mic-drop moment. Like Jerry Lee (supposedly) lighting his piano on fire.

        Though it was Stanford but it was the USC marching line that they recruited. Very cool. Still my favorite band.

        15 Step Played with Marching Band

        1. Not Adahn

          Some pop music lends itself well to marching band arrangements:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJKythlXAIY

          1. Tundra

            Ever heard of Drum Corp International? It’s like marching band on steroids.

            Blue Devils

          2. Evan from Evansville

            I used to be in marching band.

            That right there, is arguably the gayest thing I’ve ever seen. And men have actively tried to have sex with me.

          3. Tundra

            Very true, but quite a spectacle.

            For you, The Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo. march out.

          1. Wasn’t TBDBITL doing Hang On Sloopy way the fuck before that?

            Also, here they are doing pop music a whole lot better than some Souza lockstep bullshit.

  5. The Sons of Confederate Veterans needs to raise the funds to acquire all the Confederate statues and move them to a privately-owned location.

    1. What about the statues of people like Jefferson and Washington? Or Columbus?

      Nip this fucking insanity in the bud. Sorry, but it’s not about confederate statues. It’s about giving in to ransom demands from these Year Zero fucks. And it stops now or it won’t stop until they’ve erased every marker of the past that doesn’t glorify communism. Well fuck that bullshit.

      1. Drake

        Yes – cops and cities need to have zero tolerance for their shit. Boston actually didn’t let them get away with much although I’m sure the cops who were sprayed with urine were wishing there weren’t so many cameras about.

        Confederates are just the tip of the iceberg. Seriously, these fuckers are Bolsheviks.

        1. mr simple

          Someone yesterday said the Boston Antifa facebook page was a satirical site, so Townhall might have just been trolled.

          And checking back it looks like they just retracted the article.

      2. Take ’em all down. Governments just use the statues’ maintenance costs as an excuse to raise taxes.

        1. R C Dean

          Nope. Put up more. Do not give the barbarians an inch.

          1. wdalasio

            Or replace them, maybe with a five foot statue of Heather Heyer with six foot lettering saying “Commie Trash”.

          2. The Antifa Memorial – show the wretched embarassments with the caption “They stood on the wrong side of history”

          3. Or “they stood on the wrong side of the curb”.

          4. BakedPenguin

            Gary Orsum has a solution. (Very short video).

          5. LT_Fish

            Is that like naming your bulldozer Rachel?

          6. mexican sharpshooter

            Nope. Put up more. Do not give the barbarians an inch

            YES! In fact they should erect a Renaissance style frieze depicting the events in Charlottesville–including running over protesters in an enclosure around the statue.

            It is this way the statue of Robert E. Lee would necessarily have to remain, in order for future generations to know what happened there.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Dave?
          /Mustaine

    2. straffinrun

      From the way they’re talking about the statues, it sounds like they could get up and walk over to private property themselves.

      1. Murdering and enslaving as they went!

        1. straffinrun

          Totally immune to bear spray and bike locks.

    3. ElspethFlashman

      A small town nearby renamed it’s historic steam-boat, removing the original name, The Robert E. Lee. Sadly they did this without being prompted.

      1. invisible furry hand

        What was it renamed to? Because if it was Boaty McBoatface, you’d have to admit it’s an improvement

        1. It’s now the Pol Pot.

        2. ElspethFlashman

          They haven’t decided yet. Probably a “renaming committee” to follow. City Commissioner resigned after making comments that it was dumb to rename it, based on the fact that people of color served under Robert E. Lee, etc., and was then accused of being racist.

  6. Review: Queer and Feminist Relationships to Pornography
    “Let’s remind ourselves that there is no wrong way to be a feminist.”

    or a right way… but I digress:

    Does pornography sabotage people’s lives and their interpretations of sex? Is pornography inherently misogynistic? To the school of radical feminists led by the famed Andrea Dworkin, the answer is yes. Sharkey, however, argues that misogynistic ideas about pornography can be challenged with proper sex education. She believes that it is a misconception that women always automatically identify as the subordinate, bottom figure who are possessed by men in the text. Rather, “pornography is a dialogue between you and the text,” Sharkey remarks, where “viewers identify with the whole scene”. She likens viewers’ experiences of pornography to those of movie consumers. “There are all kinds of pornography within the medium,” she reflects, but “your identity is processed by what you choose to watch”.

    On the other end of the feminist spectrum, sex positive liberals such as renowned feminist pornography director and performer, Madison Young, believe it is their job to create a safe space for authentic sexual connection and pleasure through documentary work. Young argues that queer and feminist pornography is self-validating, and that the pornography aspect is incidental to the exploration of queer and female sexuality on their own terms.

    Y’know sometimes I just want to get off watching midget porn; I don’t really care why.

    1. “Let’s remind ourselves that there is no wrong way to be a feminist.”

      “Except for all those ways I don’t approve of” – Unspoken coda.

      1. DEG

        Yes. There are more than a few women that find this out the hard way.

    2. invisible furry hand

      Y’know sometimes I just want to get off watching midget porn

      Or what Madison Young would call “self-validating”

      1. Hey, he just wants to see a little sex.

        1. *fiercely narrows gaze*

  7. A pregnant meteorologist is fighting back after viewers body shamed her

    “I’m a firm believer that my body and your body is no one’s business but your own,” she told her audience, per Huffington Post. “Your body is not for anyone to talk about, whether they’re talking about your pregnant shape or … your athleticism, or your hair color or your skin color, it’s not anyone else’s business but your own.”

    She continued by pointing out that our worth is not based on our perceived attractiveness, and that there are currently much more pressing issues we need to worry about as a society — such as the horrifying terrorist attack that just took place in Charlottesville.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Canadian meteorologist Kelsey McEwen was just doing her job on “Your Morning” when a Twitter troll decided it was their place to call her pregnant body “disgusting.”

      These people need to look up troll. I mean it’s what they do.

    2. straffinrun

      She’s a firm believer in some truly stupid shit. Good luck getting people not to talk about people’s bodies.

      1. ElspethFlashman

        People watching is the sole reason I go to the mall sometimes.

        1. AlexinCT

          Some seriously crazy shit to see when checking out the herds…

    3. invisible furry hand

      Someone is a dick

      See nature balance itself

      With a HuffPo piece

    4. Why is it this argument only ever comes out when it’s “How dare you mention how I’m using this pregnancy as an excuse to let myself go” or just generalized landwhalism, but the moment a company wants to connect with customers who want their products to not be oversized, the company is somehow shaming the out-of-shape?

      1. invisible furry hand

        You’re overstating the case. Did you click and check her out? She certainly hasn’t let herself go. Still didn’t stop some idiot from freaking out at her baby bump

        1. Did you click and check her out?

          Nope. Don’t recognize the site, and people here go to some strange places.

          1. invisible furry hand

            Where’s your spirit of adventure?

          2. Hahahaahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Now that’s funny.

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            It suffocated in the crib between the mattress and the bumper.

          4. bacon-magic

            His spirit of adventure died when the spice rack in his kitchen expired.

          5. Pray tell, where did you guys come up with the absurd notion that I am attached to bland food? This one keep boggling me.

          6. bacon-magic

            It’s a joke, roll with it. Don’t be so dull and bland.

          7. So your answer to “Where did you get the stereotype that’s core to your punchline?” is “It’s just a joke!” ?

          8. bacon-magic

            Sigh.
            You have repeatedly said comments about something not tasting good.
            Example: bourbon whiskey according to your palette tastes like wood.

          9. bacon-magic

            I only joke with people I like. *bats invisible eyelashes*

          10. The fact that some people here ruin perfectly good alcohol by soaking it in wood tannins does not imply I like blandness.

            I should post more recipes, but I confused people with a random beer-bread one.

          11. Bobarian LMD

            Because you’re our resident Mikey.

            “Give it to UCS, he won’t like it, he hates everything!”

    5. Tundra

      Cute! I dig pregnant women.

      1. DEG

        Bonus: You can’t get her more pregnant. And if you somehow manage that feat, you have bragging rights: “MY SPERM IS SUPERIOR!”.

        1. Rasilio

          Plus they are in a pretty much perpetual state of arousal.

          Downside is the mood swings

      2. AlexinCT

        That’s because – according to a guy I once worked with – are a sure thing? You know they will put out.

    6. FTA: She continued by pointing out that our worth is not based on our perceived attractiveness, and that there are currently much more pressing issues we need to worry about as a society — such as the horrifying terrorist attack that just took place in Charlottesville.

      1: every single person walking a runway and every single person in Hollywood except Jake Busey’s worth is somewhat based on their attractiveness. Hell, its generally the start of most adult relationships too.
      2: yeah, we should all be shitting our pants over one stupid racist asshole.

      This woman is decent looking. But she’s an idiot.

      1. Jarflax

        She continued by pointing out that our worth is not based on our perceived attractiveness

        Well mine may not be, and yours may not be, but a freaking weather girl? yeah, I’mm guessing 100% of her salary is ‘earned’ by her perceived attractiveness

        1. AlexinCT

          What about the blow jobs she gives her boss?

    7. SugarFree

      She looks fine. I mean, what’s the issue here? At least we know she puts out.

      1. Not Adahn

        -1 turkey baster

        1. SugarFree

          Well, yeah. But attractive people having children is a public good. No one wants an uggocracy in a few generations.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Have you looked at many politicians lately?

          2. SugarFree

            I do not support politicians breeding. How dare you suggest that I do.

          3. Colonel Slanders

            Wanna bet? Ugly is the new cool…. at least according to the left.

    8. THIS IS A FUCKING NEWS ARTICLE!!!!!?!?!?!?!??????!?!?

      1. The Elite Elite

        Don’t you know that body shaming is a huge problem?

    9. Q Continuum

      “My Lord she’s gotten fat!”

    10. wdalasio

      She has a bachelors in meteorology. She’s about as much a meteorologist as I am an economist or mathematician.

    11. mexican sharpshooter

      Keep complaining lady. Its not like you can’t be replaced by a graphic (or an app) that tells us what the weather is.

    1. On Septermber 26, Iran will be at war with Kurdistan.

      1. Drake

        I think Turkey is the real concern.

        1. Naw, Turkey is already at war with Kurdistan.

    2. binding referendum

      Did anybody tell the Iraqis this?

      1. I suspect they know.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’d like to see the Kurds get their own state but wouldn’t that mean invasion by Turkey and/or Iraq?

      1. Peshmerga vs Iraqi Army…

        I got $5 on the Peshmerga.

        1. Chipwooder

          I’d take 5 bucks on a peewee football team vs the Iraqi Army

        2. Professional Beach Bum

          This.

        3. DEG

          That’s a smart bet, but what about the Turks vs. Peshmerga?

        4. Oh hell, gimme $50 on the Peshmerga to cover the spread.

        5. LT_Fish

          Don’t think Iraqis will be as worried about it. They still got their hands full with ISIS – and technically it was enshrined in the new constitution.

      2. westernsloper

        Not once we build a giant fuck off air base in Erbil.

    4. robc

      51st state?

      /Nixon era joke

    5. KibbledKristen

      The Western countries have been promising those poor bastards their own state since WWI and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. They somehow keep believing us.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        As if WE can promise Them anything, what a fucking joke

      2. John Titor

        Yep. And we keep using them for our dirty work and fucking them over. Surprised they put up with us, but it’s probably because we’re the only friends they’ve got, even if we’re cunts.

    6. KibbledKristen

      A Kurdish state, BTW, would likely be the end of NATO, as Turkey would expect the NATO allies to side with them per the treaty, and the NATO allies will just say “Sorry, I’m washing my hair that night” to Turkey,

      1. “Say, remember that time back in 2003…?”

        *hangs up phone*

        /US DoD

      2. antisthenes

        Well, that or just finding a good excuse to kick Turkey out of NATO.

        1. AlexinCT

          Where Turkey is heading now that might actually be of benefit to NATO if it wasn’t such a useless organization, all things considered.

  8. Drake

    One CEO didn’t know his customer base before lighting the virtue signal with their earnings.

    Camping World Tells Trump Supporters to Shop Elsewhere — NASCAR Legend Mark Martin Cancels His $150K Order

    1. He’s already back pedaling.

      So I guess he got the memo from NASCAR to please start sucking up to a series sponsor. Since at the rate they’re going, there won’t be any sponsors left soon.

      Not that there should be sponsors for section after section of empty stands.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        If they piss off the people that watch NASCAR/attend the events no sponsor will save them.

        1. That’s the problem. Nobody is going to the races anyway. Their title sponsors start signaling, they may as well shut the series down.

          Indy was a ghost town. Charlotte is ripping one whole sections. So are Daytona and Talladega. Hell, they can’t even sell Bristol out anymore.

          They need to go back to letting the manufacturers build race bodies based on real cars, not this COT stupidity. And get rid of restrictive plates. And let them race, FFS.

          1. Tundra

            And let them race crash, FFS.

            It’s called ‘death-defying’ for a reason.

          2. robc

            They got away from their core. They need to go back to small tracks in NC and not Texas, California and Indy.

            Is Bristol the only short track anymore?

          3. Martinsville. And Richmond. I think those three are the only tracks shorter than a mile that are left.

            We need them back at The Rock and North Wilkesboro, not fucking Chicagoland and Kansas City. But IMS bought up all of those old, smallctewcks strictly so nobody else could buy andnuse them.

            The sport is in its death throes. Hopefully what comes after will be run by former drivers instead of the retarded ass clowns that have made it unwatchable.

          4. Slammer

            Watching old Tony Stewart press conferences is one of my favorite past times

          5. trshmnstr

            For a look at the future of NASCAR, check out the walking corpse that is indycar. People want to watch daredevils skating high-tech rocket ships around a course, not dozens of the same car droning around in circles.

          6. KibbledKristen

            OMFG – there is so much more wrong beyond COT (and I like restrictor plate races – makes for some great side-by-side action).

            The jacked up “playoffs” and points system that no one understands.

            The building boom in the 90’s of 1.5-mile low-banked ovals that were supposed to accommodate open wheels as well as stock, producing terrible racing for both types.

            The vanilla-ing of the drivers into driver-bots (even Jeff Gordon has an outrageous personality compared to these snoozers driving today).

            The “we’re going to push this one driver on the fans until they break down and starting rooting for her. Or him. Even though she (or he) can hardly manage to get to the checkers.”

            The interminable season made up of mostly useless races at boring tracks.

          7. robc

            The playoffs was the end of NASCAR, I think you are right on that one.

            I know they wanted the championship race to be exciting, but it just makes races earlier meaningless.

          8. KibbledKristen

            It also makes for some very conservative driving.

            If they had just increased the # of points for winning, that would have solved whatever issues they thought they had with the points system back in the day (IIRC, it was a driver winning the Cup who didn’t win any races that year?).

          9. This!

            Make winning worth a LOT more and you’ll see guys actually racing for the finish.

          10. F. Stupidity Jr.

            The vanilla-ing of the drivers into driver-bots (even Jeff Gordon has an outrageous personality compared to these snoozers driving today).

            Professional athletes across the board are getting more boring. I guess it’s protecting their brand, or maybe they’ve spent so much time getting better at their craft they left out things like developing a personality.

    2. straffinrun

      ‘There’s no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days — and if they are, frankly, don’t shop at my business,’ Lemonis said

      Trump tweeted back, “FEMA tent ordered cancelled! Sad! Zyklon B order on schedule, though”

      1. *opera applause*

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      don’t shop at my business,’ Lemonis said

      whose business? not yours, your the chief executive officer. Get that straight jackass, you only own your share of the stock (don’t see your name on the top 5 shareholders). If flapping your mouth to impress your other CEO buddies is not in the best interest of the company you need to shut it.

  9. westernsloper

    RE the USS McCain: Holy shit, it looks like they got T Boned. How could that even happen?

    1. “That stupid civvie ship didn’t yield the right of way.” – Officer of the Watch

      1. westernsloper

        Not sure that one is going to fly. It looks like they got hit on the starboard side, that means the container ship had the right of way.

        1. I hate to explain the joke, it I’d intended it to carry the same tone as you’d get from a police officer who’d run a red without his lights and got t-boned in the intersection.

          1. bacon-magic

            Too bland of an attempt…spice it up.

          2. ChipsnSalsa

            Bacon your all over UCS today.

            Bacon wrapped UCS, might work…

          3. If only he were funny, or at least witty, with his puppy-dog pursuit of my heels.

          4. Bacon wrapped almost anything works.

          5. bacon-magic

            UnCivil is ruff today. Who peppered his gruel?

          6. I know telling people how to push your buttons on the internet is asking for trouble, but I’m going to be honest.

            The diet I’m on has been working in helping me shed weight, but the food is horribly bland AND IT FUCKING SUCKS! I end up having to add seasoning to bring it up to palatable, and dread the overindulgance that will come when I get to eat real food again.

          7. bacon-magic

            You need bacon in your life. *pulls slab of bacon out from briefcase*

        2. LT_Fish

          You may be looking at a mirrored pic – they were hit on the STBD.

          1. LT_Fish

            PORT DAMMIT – what’s wrong with me today.

    2. westernsloper

      Also, most container ships are not lit up like Christmas trees. Usually just running lights and a few others on the superstructure. They make a nice radar signature though.

      1. AlexinCT

        Transiting the Straits of Malacca these days is done with sophisticated, computer managed, GPS navigation systems that make these sorts of events (collisions) all but impossible unless someone really fucks up or wants to collide with another vessel. And that applies even to naval vessels that might not use such systems and are running dark. I wouldn’t be surprised that the inquiry detects that there was some kind of foul play (and they don’t tell anyone because of the usual security bullshit). Four naval collisions in one year is statistically not possible.

        Now, I also admit that with the NAVY far more likely to keep up with diversity, sensitivity, sexual harassment and other such ludicrously stupid training sessions and therefore drastically impacting the real training seamen would need to successfully run a ship, shit like this was bound to happen.

    3. Drake

      There’s absolutely no excuse for it. It would be an alarming development if a foreign power could hack our Aegis Destroyers. But it would have next to nothing to do with safely navigating a busy shipping channel. That’s like hitting a guardrail with your car and blaming the gps. A destroyer is basically a speedboat compared to the tankers.

        1. AlexinCT

          Ayup..

        2. Somalian Road Corporation

          That guy also seems to realize that “nation-building” is a futile joke and you’re not going to have an installed Western republic last more than very briefly without a concordant philosophical and cultural revolution… especially when you get half-assed compromises, like Islam in the Iraqi constitution and a bunch of positive rights and no gun rights.

  10. The Military Industrial Complex All Fathers Should Advocate For

    War is indeed the most deadly parasite of all and we are all infected. As a society, we thrive on destruction instead of construction. We need to face this reality. In this talk, Aberkane reminds us that “the purpose of war is the destruction of humanity.”

    Aberkane further demonstrates that the natural evolution of the military industrial complex should reside in the development of weapons of mass construction instead of weapons of mass destruction. This powerful idea must be spread as widely as possible, starting at home.

    In that spirit, here are three ways fathers can help dismantle the military industrial complex with their children:
    1) Fight gun culture.
    2) Cultivate empathy.
    3) Promote a sustainable living.

    much more detail at WokeDaddy

    1. Are we sure the kid he’s raising is his own?

    2. Tundra

      Low T is a sad affliction.

    3. LJW

      Looks like I’m raising my daughter wrong.

    4. straffinrun

      Weapons of mass construction. We really need a barfman around here.

      1. What? You haven’t seen The Wrath of Khan? That one bomb built a whole planet. (Okay, a planet that fell apart in the next movie, but still)

    5. Q Continuum

      “WokeDaddy: leave your testicles at the door.”

    6. Spartan Dad

      Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.

      I hope WokeDaddy’s kids enjoy plowing for mine in this fictitious utopia he’s created. Of course, his kids will have the whole ‘woke’ thing going for them, so I guess there’s that.

      1. wdalasio

        I hope WokeDaddy’s kids enjoy plowing for mine in this fictitious utopia he’s created.

        Except, judging by their fathers, I doubt that they’d be of much use even for plowing. Your kids would have to waste too much time supervising them.

    7. bacon-magic

      Turning swords into plowshares has been tried before…millions died and are still oppressed.

    8. wdalasio

      My wager is Aberkane would have trouble constructing a Lego block.

    9. So, the problem with #1 is that “gun culture” has existed in this country since before its founding, partly in support of point #3, but largely because of a broader culture of self-sufficiency that is anathema to Progressivism. The military-industrial complex arose independently and remains so; it’s definitely worth fighting against, but eradicating “gun culture” will actually have the opposite effect, because the MIC thrives on the notion that we are helpless and surrounded by existential threats.

      #2 and #3 have nothing to do with self-defense or owning guns or anything else.

      Speaking of guns, if you routinely visit WokeDaddy for parenting advice you should do your children a favor and hire someone to kill you for the insurance payout.

    10. KibbledKristen

      Question: do kids rebel against their parents’ ideals anymore? It seems like that spirit of teenage rebellion is dried up. I remember the vibrant punk scene in Burlington (VT) in the 80’s that grew out of all the fucking hippies that decided to move there in the 60’s & 70’s. The punks were the hippies’ kids. And they hated their fucking parents.

      1. I think the whole “Teenage Rebellion” observation is overblown. To be more clear – a small and very vocal subset of persons in that age bracket make a big show of not being like their parents. Some more pay lip service to a similar notion, but don’t internalize it. A lot simply move on quietly (in comparison).

        Testing boundaries – yes, always has and always will happen.

        Flamboyant statements of nonconformity – not even most when it was visible.

      2. Tundra

        Sure they do. It depends on the parents, though. Kids respect parents that are straight with them, who set boundaries and take the effort to educate them. Overly permissive, overly controlling or just plain absent doesn’t work.

        It’s not rocket surgery, KK!

    11. mexican sharpshooter

      That’s it. I’m taking my boy to the range. Is it still impossible to find .22LR?

      1. Raston Bot

        maybe at Walmart or Dick’s but online is very much a plethora.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          So you are saying I have a plethora?

          Thanks. I have a stash of CCI but it’s been a while since I picked any up.

      2. Number.6

        Pretty easy to get 22 nowadays. It just isn’t dirt cheap anymore. CCI for 8 cents a round? ugh.

        Had to turn away a guy at the range yesterday, because Connecticut.

        Funny thing is that he was from Newtown and hadn’t realized that the laws had changed in 2013. I was a fool, I should have sold him some lottery tickets from last Saturday.

        1. Raston Bot

          What CT law changed that you had to turn him away? Did he bring an unapproved firearm?

          1. Number.6

            It’s actually an indirect effect, because of the state rules regarding insurance.

            The guy himself could shoot without a permit, but the insurance policy mandated by CT requires that anyone else who is with him in a port (or theoretically, on a firing line outside) needs to be a ‘permitted individual’, which is idiotic no matter how you construe ‘permitted’, least of all ‘possessing a permit’, which the guy doesn’t need in order to use the firearm.

            We could let the son on the line, provided one of our RSO/Instructors was with him, but not the parent alone.

            It was a fun, circular discussion that will be adequately addressed when the father picks up a long gun purchase permit (which isn’t a permit to OWN a long gun, just to buy one), or, if he’s motivated enough, to go the whole Pistol Permit.

            Or he can just go to a state-run range where the insurance issue doesn’t apply. We live close to the NY border, so hen he runs out of ammo he can just buy some in a Walmart in NY, so he doesn’t even *really* need an Ammo Purchase permit.

            All to let his son fire a 10/22 and get in touch with his toxic masculinity.

          2. It is sad when New York is the side of the line with the less restrictive law.

          3. KibbledKristen

            Are you in Fairfield County?

          4. Number.6

            Yep. Up near Danbury.

            For the next few years only.

          5. KibbledKristen

            Ridgefield? I went to H.S. in Ridgefield. What a godawful 4 years that was. My Ma (who would have been 76 today!) used to take me to the Windmill Diner for a tuna sandwich & malted milkshake. And we used to get a hot dog at Chez Lenard from time to time.

          6. AlexinCT

            Yeah, I have ran into this idiotic law in this idiotic state a few times. These sorts of laws exist to make it as expensive and onerous as possible for private citizens, especially the ones not making a 6 figure salary, to own a firearm. It is not referred to as “The People’s Republic of Connecticut” without reason. It is just fucking pedantic shit.

          7. Raston Bot

            that was painful just to read.

    12. Raston Bot

      i’d quote Heinlein but you all already know it rote by now.

  11. DEG

    Hey, I’m no genius, but unless those standing watch are hooked to VR headsets, there ain’t anything “cyber” that would keep them from spotting a freaking supertanker that’s lit up like Christmas.

    There are a log of computer controlled systems on modern ships. Many moons ago, when I did defense contracting, the Navy was bringing in more computerization to cut down on crew. See this story for early teething problems.

    1. WTF

      So, no manual overrides in case of failure. Brilliant.

      1. AlexinCT

        Not only that, but with a smaller NAVY (number of ships wise) and an accelerated operational tempo and ever growing list of requirements, you are looking at overworked, understaffed, PC infected crews that now are breaking down it seems in their effectiveness.

  12. westernsloper

    The US Attorney’s Office in Washington has taken possession of a laptop issued to Awan from Wasserman Schultz’s office

    Would that be the office where Greasy Lockes Schultzs brother works?

    1. The Elite Elite

      I’m curious what the time period will be, considering AOE3 put us in the colonial era.

      1. LJW

        Says it’s going to be multiple eras. Apparently they brought in the guys who made Company of Heroes 2, which is another awesome game.

        1. The Elite Elite

          Interesting. I’ll be keeping an eye on all this. The Age of games have been some of my favorite, so definitely interested in what’ll be the first new game the franchise has seen since ’05.

    2. leonadasiv

      Yup. Age of empires was the first game I played as a kid. I absolutely loved it.

      1. I feel old.

        /Oregon Trail on Apple II

        1. LJW

          I will always remember the weird kid in school who named his wagon party after other kids in the class then gave them meager rations and starved them to death. Fairly certain he grew up to be a serial killer. The creepy thing was the grave sites were saved on the computer so the next kid to play would come across a grave site with his or her name on it.

          1. invisible furry hand

            That’s superb.

          2. EvilSheldon

            Dude, I thought I was the only one who did that. Although some of my party were teachers.

            I was a passive-aggressive little shit…

        2. KibbledKristen

          Older: programming the Commodre 64 to play “Michael Row the Boat Ashore”

          1. Number.6

            Older: Writing pong for an Apple Euro II+
            Actually, older still: Modifying someone else’s CP/M code so that Text Trek had Klingon AND Romulan encounters.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            TI99-4A bingo program

          3. Chipwooder

            Don’t forget making pictures using Logo on the Apple II!

          4. Forward 150
            Left 45
            Forward 150
            Left 45
            Forward 150
            Left 45
            Forward 150
            Left 45
            Forward 150
            Left 45
            Forward 150
            Left 45
            Pen down

            Crap! I didn’t draw the octagon. I didn’t even get to trying to draw the letters for the stop sign…

          5. Commodore PET – 16k with a tape deck. Learned how to modify basic code on that machine.

        3. Rasilio

          Combat on an Atari 2600

      2. The Elite Elite

        I think it might’ve been my first game too. Damn fine game. Really looking for to the Definitive Edition release coming up soon. Not so sure about AOE4 though. While AOE3 was fun, it had a lot of changes from the first two games that didn’t ever quite sit right to me. Guess we’ll have to wait and see what’s going on with the game.

    3. John Titor

      So I guess I’m finally going to get Age of Mythology 2 sometime in the next decade? Great.

      1. pan fried wylie

        Warcraft 4 expected by 2050, or the introduction of fusion power, whichever comes later.

        My favorite part in AoM were the unit responses.

  13. Norwegian Coast Guard Arrests Greenpeace Ship

    “While Greenpeace recognizes that Norway has the right to establish a safety zone around a fixed offshore installation, there should also be room to exercise the right to protest in a safe and peaceful manner.”

    The authorities did not agree and ended the protest with seizure of the ship and the arrest of all 35 activists and crew members on board. “The Arctic Sunrise is currently being towed away from the drilling site, to the mainland in Tromsoe, Northern Norway,” Greenpeace said in a statement late on Thursday.

    U.S. President Donald Trump was a target for the protesters, as well as Statoil. Greenpeace U.S. activist, Britt Baker, at the location said: “As an American and global citizen, Trump’s decision to retreat from the Paris climate agreement and boost fossil fuels at the expense of people around the world was devastating. Likewise, we see the Norwegian government opening new oil areas in the Arctic at full throttle, in spite of knowing the dangers it will have for future generations.

    1. Tundra

      Something about that phrase ‘global citizen’ makes me want to club seals.

      1. I’m with you. Lets arrainge an outing.

      2. Can I use an aluminum softball bat?

        1. Jarflax

          Can I come along? I want to social signal my greenness. I’m running the seals down with a Prius

          1. … You’ll get tire tracks on the fur!

          2. Tundra

            Nah, it takes a deft touch and some serious threshold braking, but I trust Jarflax.

            *loads up Rod Carew Louisville sluggers*

      3. DEG

        Do seals taste good? If so, count me in.

        1. AlexinCT

          It’s not about the taste man,, it’s about the satisfaction of clubbing the critters.

    2. Likewise, we see the Norwegian government opening new oil areas in the Arctic at full throttle, in spite of knowing the dangers it will have for future generations.

      Like a sovereign wealth fund stuffed to the gills with cash – the horror.

      1. Raston Bot

        cash?

        https://www.nbim.no/en/the-fund/market-value/

        2:1 stocks to bonds ratio isn’t too aggressive. still.. welcome to bubble city. population: you

        1. I’d take Norway’s fund over a shit-pile of debt.

          1. LT_Fish

            They keep letting in the ‘fugees and they’ll be sitting on a pile of debt as well – esp if oil prices stay nice n’ low.

    3. SugarFree

      “Oops. Your boat sank.”

      -Norwegian official doing a bad French accent

      1. -1 Rainbow Warrior

      2. “We transferred the arrestees to the Swedish Authorities in Malmo. We don’t expect any more complaints.”

    4. leonadasiv

      “U.S. President Donald Trump was a target for the protesters, ”

      Is protesting Trump like geocaching? See where you can go that is the most exotic place to protest him.

      1. “U.S. President Donald Trump was a target for the protesters, ”

        They missed.

    5. westernsloper

      Ha

    6. Slammer

      What fuel does the Artic Sunrise run on?

      1. If it’s not a sailboat, I am disappointed in their hypocracy. Though a rowboat would also be acceptable.

          1. WTF

            “Ramming speed!”

      2. westernsloper

        Unicorn farts

  14. robc

    In five matches (2 EPL and 3 Europa qualifiers), Everton has now given up 1 goal.

    A draw @ Man City is a good result, but Rooney had them ahead for 40 minutes, so it was so close to a great win.

    Of course, it took a BS 2nd yellow for that to happen, but EPL refs gonna EPL.

  15. Rich cabinet spouses of Instagram: Wife of Steve Mnuchin snaps back at trolls and says ‘I’m pretty sure we paid more taxes than you’ after she is slammed for tagging her VERY expensive wardrobe on official trip

    Money can buy you a lot – but it can’t buy you diplomacy, as Louise Linton, the millionaire heir-turned-wife of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has discovered.

    On Monday Linton posted an Instagram picture of herself and new hubby Mnuchin stepping out of a taxpayer-funded plane during his official visit to Fort Knox.

    That wouldn’t have been a problem, of course, except for Linton’s questionable decision to segue from the standard cheerful hashtags to a systematic namedrop of all of the brands in her outfit.

    ‘Great #daytrip to #Kentucky!’ she wrote, according to New York Magazine journalist Yashar Ali. ‘#nicest #people #beautiful #countryside #rolandmouret pants #tomford sunnies #hermesscarf #valentinorockstudheels #valentino’.

    1. Unless that wardrobe was bought on a government expense account or otherwise billed directly to the taxpayer, I don’t see the problem.

    2. PieInTheSKy

      Shaming women for their clothes. Sad

      1. Hans Landa

        I shame girls for their personality instead: She sounds like a real piece of work.

    3. Dude outkicked his coverage.

    4. invisible furry hand

      Valentino rock stud heels are so tired. The dazzling sophisticates of Kentucky have moved on.

    5. mr simple

      That woman sounds very envious.

    6. KibbledKristen

      I think literally everyone in that whole scenario looks like a whiny bitch.

    7. pan fried wylie

      “heir-turned-wife”

      Isn’t that how wives work? They turn into wives when you get married, or are there better, classier, more legitimate ones that are born that way?

    1. Tundra

      It’s interesting how all of his exes seem to like him. You would think literally hitler would generate some vitriol.

      1. Negroni Please

        Terms of the undisclosed settlements?

        1. WTF

          They are not required to say anything, or make any public statements of support.

    2. WTF

      This is like a real “no shit, Sherlock” ‘revelation’. For fuck’s sake, Trump received an award from Jesse Jackson for his work to empower black people and promote their success. Nobody ever thought he was racist until he ran against Hillary, and no one can ever point to any actual racist statement or action Trump has ever made. It’s nothing but an obvious smear made up out of thin air.

      1. AlexinCT

        That doesn’t count and they want you to forget about it, because of the narrative.

    3. Slammer

      I liked the angry black lady Trump supporter at the bottom of that link

      1. Drake

        I didn’t make it past the photos of Ms. Young before heading for my bunk.

  16. My problem,with the “statues remind us of our history” argument is that the “history” being remembered is the State Approved version.

    “See that statue? It represents an eeevil traitor who fought to preserve slaaaavereee.”

    The real problem, deep down, that people have with the Confederates isn’t that they supported slavery, but that they mounted a sustained resistance against the Federal Government, which,mozt,people worship as a god. Most people can’t abide pagans thwarting the will of their god. If they say it’s about the slavery, they’re lying.

    1. I’m not remembering the state approved version of history when I say I want the statues to all remain. I’m just remembering what happens when you give in to extortionists.

      Fuck these griefers. It’s not about the confederacy anymore. It’s about letting these commie LARPers destroy the country incrementally. And the time and place to take a stand are now. Otherwise we’re down the slope and I can’t count on people to stand up to them later once they’ve gotten momentum on their side.

      1. … I can’t count on people to stand up to them later once they’ve gotten momentum on their side.

        Fair enough.

        I think, however, that the real fight is being waged in the education system. Students are being taught incorrect information, and they are being taught what to think instead of how to think. Charter schools and homeschooling are becoming more prevalent, I think, as people realize that government schools are indoctrination centers.

        1. I expect that there will be a “homeschool-style” version of college arise in the near future, with students being able to take a series of standardized tests to prove to potential employers they’ve been educated in a particular field. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised to see apprenticeships return.

        2. Rasilio

          The problem is most charter schools don’t do anything different where it comes to the ability to think for yourself and most private schools do exactly the same thing with the exception that they tell the students to think something different than public schools say.

    2. wdalasio

      The entire statue issue annoys me with how damned ignorant people are. The notion that the Confederates were traitors is wildly ahistorical. Prior to the Civil War people thought of themselves first as citizens of their states – New Yorkers, Pennsylvanians, Ohioans, Virginians – and then as Americans. The (very) rough analogy would be the European Union. A French general who fought for France against Brussels or a German general who fought for Germany wouldn’t generally be seen as a traitor. Rather, quite the opposite, a general who fought on behalf of Brussels against his own people would be seen as the traitor.

      1. SandMan

        Good point.

      2. peachy rex

        George Thomas – thoroughly competent, not an asshole, nobody’s favourite general (then or now.)

  17. PieInTheSKy

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/aug/22/kate-banyard-industrialised-sexual-exploitation-pimp-state

    Author of Pimp State, Kat Banyard explains how researching her book revealed why we need to end the sex trade – and how to do it

    I always enjoy these “I can tell you how to do what no one was ever able to” things

    And right on to the stupid

    “For all the ways it is marketed, the sex trade boils down to a very simple product concept: a person (usually a man) can pay to sexually access the body of someone (usually a woman), who does not freely want to have sex with him. He knows that’s the case – otherwise he wouldn’t have to pay her to be there. The money isn’t coincidence, it’s coercion.”

    So if my plumber won’t freely unclog my toilet it is coercion to if offer money?

    1. PieInTheSKy

      I mean in how many articles can you rehash the same bullshit? Is ENB on this? She should be

    2. WTF

      Yes, the voluntary exchange of goods and services between two individuals is coercion. If a proggie disapproves in some way, that is.

    3. The Elite Elite

      You could insert that for any service/product. Lowes doesn’t freely want to give me a fridge, otherwise I wouldn’t have to pay for it. Carl’s Jr. doesn’t freely want to give me a burger, otherwise I wouldn’t have to pay for it.

    4. compgrokker

      So, the saying that ‘you don’t pay her to stay, you pay her to go home afterwards’ isn’t true?

  18. The Critical Angle: What to expect now the eclipse is *OVER*

    In certain place more than others, of course, as shown by data visualizer John Nelson, who felt the need to overlay the path of the eclipse on a map of already reported sightings. For those who want the total cosmic experience! To be fair, it was a gag in response to NASA’s own Joshua Stevens’ map of the eclipse coupled with BIGFOOT sightings.

    Don’t laugh! Again, these are reports of PREVIOUS sightings, but it’s not far-fetched to think formerly Bigfoot-prone areas might drum up more mistaken identities when shit goes sideways. A lot of Bigfoot sightings under NORMAL conditions turn out to just be bears — cover one in weird shadows and lighting when everyone is already freaked out, and you’ve got 23 minutes on Animal Planet all set.

    Sadly, and yes, maybe predictably, South Carolina’s LIZARDMAN was a no-show, despite some playful needling by the state’s Emergency Management Department that he might reappear after a two-year absence. Which is just silly, of course — lizards actually get less active when the Sun goes down.

    1. Rick C-137

      STEVE SMITH BLOCK OUT ALL LIGHT WITH MEMBER!

    2. A lot of Bigfoot sightings under NORMAL conditions turn out to just be bears

      *paging Jesse*

    3. The Elite Elite

      Mr. Lizard lives in South Carolina?

  19. Rick C-137

    Howdy Y’all. Got to see the eclipse in my hometown. Good time but ended the day with a migraine. I’m better now, and was glad to see that the vampyre failed to exploit the sunless time.

    1. Negroni Please

      What are you talking about? Bonnie Tyler made a shitload of money yesterday.

      1. Rick C-137

        Ha. nice.

    1. Does this author think the French would have ended Slavery? Regardless of his own opinions on the matter, Nelson breaking the French navy was key to enforcement of the British ban on the slave trade.

      1. Tundra

        Shhhhh. Don’t bother the nice intellectual with facts, man.

      2. Rick C-137

        Concur. That’s come narrow view of history they have there.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Narrow views of history are celebrated among the progs. For all of Howard Zinn’s talk about taking a larger view on history, it always seems to come down a particularly narrow one.

          1. Rick C-137

            And shallow. They can’t seem bothered to do some basic research or acquire knowledge that may contradict their view.

      3. leonadasiv

        It wasn’t an English colony that had a massive slave revolt and formed a new country…

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      That pisses me off more than the Confederacy stuff and I’m from the South. Fuck that shit!

      1. Tundra

        I’m sure those businesses in Trafalgar Square won’t care at all if one of the prime tourist draws just goes away…

      2. I’m still angry about Hastings. What right did that bastard* have to come over with his Norman corporate cronies and displace the Saxon leadership?

        *he was actually an illegitimate child.

        1. That’s why he should only ever be referred to by the proper sobriquet “William the Bastard”. None of this self-aggrandizing “Conquerer” bullshit.

          1. WTF

            Fine, we’ll call him “William the Conquering Bastard”.

          2. No at most he’s “William the Bastard of Normandy, the Bloated Carcass who exploded when they tried to get him in his sarcophagus*.”

            *He did not want to be buried in England, but he died there. While being shipped over to Normandy, his corpse bloated up and ended up bursting quiet messily when they tried to cram it into his tomb. All because he didn’t want to rest on English soil.

          3. WTF

            You really don’t want to give him credit for any conquering, do you?

          4. The Bastard should be remembered with horror for the butchery he inflicted on the English language. Sadly, the frog-talk he dragged over has become too ingrained in the Lexicon. It was cultural vandalism!

            But seriously, no I don’t think he should be given credit. Gengis was a Conquerer. William of Normandy was a usurper.

          5. Somalian Road Corporation

            I guess you could say “butchery”, but I like that Anglophone culture has absolutely zero compunctions about loanwords, while Francophone culture has a ridiculously strong linguistic protectionism streak that extends from Paris to Montreal.

            The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary. –James Nicoll

          6. Number.6

            Just to be picky, the term is ‘rifled’, which conveniently enough, is itself derived from the Old French, ‘rifler’, v. to plunder or strip.

          7. WTF

            And William was pretty lucky that Harald Hadrada and Harold’s scummy brother Tostig decided to invade around the same time. Although Harold Godwinson’s claim to the throne is seen by some as a little usurpy as well.

          8. WTF

            SRC, yes, whenever English sees good words or phrases from another language it just steals that shit. One of the reasons English has a large vocabulary with many synonyms with slightly different nuances.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Go ahead, piss off whatever remaining allies you have.

    4. PieInTheSKy

      M: Oh, has there been a general election, then, Mr. Blackadder?

      E: Indeed, there has, Mrs. Miggins.

      M: Oh, well, I never heard about it.

      E: Well of course you didn’t — you’re not eligible to vote.

      M: Well, why not?

      E: Because virtually no one is: women, peasants, (looks at Baldrick)

      chimpanzees (Baldrick looks behind himself, trying to see the animal),

      lunatics, Lords…

      B: That’s not true — Lord Nelson’s got a vote!

      E: He’s got a *boat*, Baldrick. Marvellous thing, democracy. Look at

      Just random blackadder quotes

    5. Rufus the Monocled

      Like I’ve said from the beginning, and people have almost surely have thought, this won’t stop at Confederate symbols.

  20. Rick C-137

    Huh, never heard of this guy before, but I’m surprised he made it that long among the Norks…
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41003405

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Dresnok, he was famous a long time ago, mostly for being so pissed off at his own loser life that he defected to North Korea.

      1. Rick C-137

        Ah, Class A loser then. No wonder North Korea sounded appealing

      1. I replied to the wrong comment. I blame the Confederate Nazis.

      2. Rick C-137

        Nice.

    2. KibbledKristen

      That is one depressing damn article. Those kids of his have no idea of the life their idiot father took them away from. What happened to the mother? Clearly she was/is not Korean.

    3. BakedPenguin

      The documentary discussed in the article Crossing the Line, is pretty good.

    1. 10. Fried chicken

      I larfed.

      1. Rick C-137

        I’m curious about MLK getting a shoutout, was there something I missed?

        1. Whatever it was, the man’s legacy is ruined, and we will be renaming a lot of boulevards going forward.

        2. Drake

          That fucker wanted a colorblind society where people judged by their character not the color of their skin. He was obviously a white shitlord wearing blackface.

    2. Drake

      16. Any collective sympathy whatsoever for the plight of working-class white people

      They don’t want sympathy. Add this the list of reasons the Democrats can’t win an election outside a big city.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Racist scumbag fool.

      Since you hate white people Dustin, if I find out you eat Italian food….oooo boy I’m going to lose it on you.

  21. Count Potato

    “How the Republican party quietly does the bidding of white supremacists

    It takes approximately 30 seconds to send a tweet. A half hour to draft and release a statement. And the shelf life of both is only marginally longer. We should not commend Republican party elected officials who claim outrage on social media at Trump’s remarks, often without daring to mention his name. The phony claimed outrage becomes dangerous if it convinces anyone that there is a distinction between Trump’s abhorrent comments and the Republican Party agenda.

    The lesson from Charlottesville is not how dangerous the neo-Nazis are. It is the unmasking of the Republican party leadership. In the wake of last weekend’s horror and tragedy, let us finally, finally rip off the veneer that Trump’s affinity for white supremacy is distinct from the Republican agenda of voter suppression, renewed mass incarceration and the expulsion of immigrants.

    The white supremacist chant of, “you will not replace us,” could easily and accurately be the slogan for these Republican politicians. Their policies will achieve the same racial outcome as Jim Crow – the disenfranchisement and marginalization of people of color.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/19/republican-party-white-supremacists-charlottesville

    1. WTF

      The rather obvious goal of all the dishonest Nazi hysteria – paint all Republicans and anyone opposed to the leftist agenda as Nazis. I can’t believe how many people are actually stupid enough to buy in to this shit.

    2. WTF

      Also, does he not know that Jim Crow was a set of laws passed by Democrats? That the Klan was founded by Democrats?

      1. The Elite Elite

        THE PARTIES SWITCHED! Look it up. /Cenk Uygur

      2. But they switched parties. All of them except FDR, Kennedy, LBJ, and every other national leader the Dems had from 1930 on.

        1. WTF

          Yeah and somehow Klan leader Robert Byrd never managed to switch parties, either. This is one of the Big LIes the Democrats promote that really pisses me off, because they have actually convinced a lot of people.

          1. The Elite Elite

            How does it even make sense? All the racists had the Democrat Party, then, for some reason, they decide they’ll leave the Dems and take over the Republicans. Why exactly?

          2. straffinrun

            Even if true, why would it matter? Change the name of the party then. I doubt they’d accept a “Nazi” party regardless of how they may have different members and a new inclusive attitude.

          3. WTF

            BECUZ RETHUGLIKKKANZ R RACISTS!!!!1111!!!! HURR DURR

        2. spqr2008

          One of Prager’s professors did a video on it, and found a grand total of 12 that switched (including state officials) that could be absolutely verified. And of those, 2 were Congresscritters.

        3. wdalasio

          But they switched parties.

          Yeah, except these guys never manage to explain how exactly why it is that Southern Republican voting grew out of suburban districts and precincts with little if any history of hardline racism, but large numbers of Sunbelt transplants. I guess the racists just wanted to hang out with Yankees, or something.

    3. american socialist

      Never ever play the left’s disavow game. They will never be happy and you can’t win

      Funny they don’t offer what would be needed to remedy this complaint here by author

      1. WTF

        Exactly, disavowing some group implies that there is some connection between you and the group which would actually require disavowal. They don’t ask anyone to disavow Antifa or any other violent commie assholes.

        1. Somalian Road Corporation

          Also the disavowal itself is an utterly pointless waste of time as it’ll just be flat-out ignored and they’ll demand you disavow again and again until the heat death of the universe.

          There needs to be a cultural shift where people stop acting like this shit is ever in good faith, because it never is, and laugh it off.

          1. WTF

            Or have the balls to respond “You just want me to disavow the KKK? Not the violent Marxists like Antifa? Or the violent racists like BLM?”

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      Oh man the comments.

      Unbelievable.

    5. mr simple

      The Guardian is just socialist trash and anyone who agrees with these articles is an idiot. I can’t understand why people go there, unless you’re just looking to be pissed off by that dreck.

  22. PieInTheSKy

    They say comedy can be found in the most banal of subjects, and the 2017 winner of Dave’s Funniest Joke of the Fringe award puts that theory to the test.

    Proving that even money can be funny, Ken Cheng has won this year’s accolade with his one-liner on the UK’s redesigned currency: “I’m not a fan of the new pound coin, but then again, I hate all change.”
    The prize, now in its 10th year, is awarded by a public vote, with this year’s shortlist including 15 jokes by comedians such as Frankie Boyle, Alexei Sayle, Tim Vine and Ed Byrne.

    In close contention was this piercing takedown of the US president, Donald Trump, by Boyle: “Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book.” And this joke by Sayle also gave Cheng a run for his money: “I’ve given up asking rhetorical questions. What’s the point?”

    1. Tundra

      Yes. Piercing. Funny people, there.

    2. These are their “funniest”?

      Even the Ted Kennedy joke upthread beats them, and that one was meh.

      1. straffinrun

        Now that is funny. Thanks UnCiv.

    3. “So funny I forgot to laugh”

    4. PieInTheSKy

      Full list

      Dave’s top 15 funniest jokes of the fringe 2017

      “I’m not a fan of the new pound coin, but then again, I hate all change.” Ken Cheng
      “Trump’s nothing like Hitler. There’s no way he could write a book.” Frankie Boyle
      “I’ve given up asking rhetorical questions. What’s the point?” Alexei Sayle
      “I’m looking for the girl-next-door type. I’m just gonna keep moving house till I find her.” Lew Fitz
      “I like to imagine the guy who invented the umbrella was going to call it the ‘brella’. But he hesitated.” Andy Field
      “Combine Harvesters. And you’ll have a really big restaurant.” Mark Simmons
      “I’m rubbish with names. It’s not my fault, it’s a condition. There’s a name for it …” Jimeoin
      “I have two boys, five and six. We’re no good at naming things in our house.” Ed Byrne
      “I wasn’t particularly close to my dad before he died … which was lucky, because he trod on a landmine.” Olaf Falafel
      “Whenever someone says, ‘I don’t believe in coincidences’, I say, ‘Oh my God, me neither!’” Alasdair Beckett-King
      “A friend tricked me into going to Wimbledon by telling me it was a men’s singles event.” Angela Barnes
      “As a vegan, I think people who sell meat are disgusting, but apparently people who sell fruit and veg are grocer.” Adele Cliff
      “For me, dying is a lot like going camping. I don’t want to do it.” Phil Wang
      “I wonder how many chameleons snuck on to the Ark.” Adam Hess
      “I went to a Pretenders gig. It was a tribute act.” Tim Vine

      1. “As a vegan, I think people who sell meat are disgusting, but apparently people who sell fruit and veg are grocer”

        The. Worst.

        1. The Elite Elite

          Don’t you mean the wurst?

      2. Tundra

        I suspect it’s Vitamin D deficiency.

      3. Damn those stink. Woody Allen could – in his heyday – rip ’em out better than that.

      4. SugarFree

        Ugh. Like two clever ones, a bunch of puns (the testicle cancer of humor), some sub-Steven Wright observation/depression combos, and a lame “I’m-a-single-female-comedian” whine.

        1. If that were true the set would go perfectly together – Cheesy puns and Feminist Whine.

          1. SugarFree

            Swiss! Swiss! Get over here!

          2. westernsloper

            I think it is unfair to lump all puns together.

          3. straffinrun

            That would be offal.

          4. The Elite Elite

            *Opera applause*

      5. KibbledKristen

        British humo(u)r is dead, I see.

      6. Apples and Knives

        I like the landmine joke.

      7. LT_Fish

        Alexei Sayle – takes me back to The Young Ones.

    5. Stinky Wizzleteats

      The piercing takedown-doesn’t Trump have several books under his belt? It’s just a joke but they’re better when they’re grounded in reality.

      1. whiz

        ^ This

      2. Somalian Road Corporation

        It seems to have gone by the wayside in the wake of the Trumputinazi hysteria, but around the time of Pissgate there was a “Trump is literally illiterate” propaganda push online that suckered in the more idiotic useful idiots… that want to believe that their evil archenemy is a lunatic buffoon who can’t even read and is a stooge of Bannon and Putin, but somehow just keeps thwarting the tide of history and all the smart people, including the most qualified candidate in history, etc.

    6. invisible furry hand

      Some funnier lines from the Scottish comedian Frankie Boyle:

      You say snapchat, I say speedwank.

      Why do paedophiles always have beards and glasses? What is it about that look that children find so sexy?

      The tragedy is that if Oscar Pistorius had no arms, this would never have happened

      (On the Queen of England) “I’ve had a few medical problems this year. I’m so old, my pussy is haunted.”

      Nobody thought Mel Gibson could play a Scot but look at him now! Alcoholic and a racist!

      1. PieInTheSKy

        I usually have difficulty understanding Frankie Boyle when I see his standup, which is weird because I usually understand most accents without issue.

        1. Lucky you.

          I can understand Upstate English, Midwest English, California non-progspeak English, Southern English, Canukistani, Recieved Pronounciation, Irish English and the Antipodian accents.

          I can’t understand Inglish, Central European English, Scotch English, Welsh English, Lawn Guyland drawl, or Brooklynite.

          it will be a toss-up with eastern European English and most forms of African English if I can figure out what they’re saying.

          1. PieInTheSKy

            Does Australia have more than one accent? Or it is all the same drunken convict slurring?

          2. Kiwis are also Antipodian.

          3. PieInTheSKy

            I had assumed New Z is to tiny to have it’s own accent. Then again Romania has a whole bunch of distinguishable accents and it is not that big.

          4. KibbledKristen

            I can easily differentiate between Kiwi and Ozzie for some reason. There’s a pretty significant vowel shift with Kiwi accents.

          5. invisible furry hand

            Yes we have multiple accents, ranging from old-skool Strine through to something that to you) would sound RP English, then there’s variants such as Indigenous accents, wog accents, plus all the accents of English spoken by migrants

          6. invisible furry hand

            Does your comprehension of Irish English include this variant?

          7. Can’t tell – no audio at work.

          8. DEG

            I hear a couple of English words in there, but I wonder if he is mixing Irish Gaelic in with his English because most of what he says is incomprehensible.

          9. invisible furry hand

            I had assistance in translating this from someone from an Ulster family and yes it’s English

          10. Drake

            I worked in the shipping department of a factory in NC for a year. For the first few weeks, I had no idea what the backwoods white white guy was saying. He would talk his gibberish at me, and I would look at the black guy in the department for an interpretation.

          11. AlexinCT

            Did you get any? Interpretations I mean…

  23. Q Continuum

    White Nazi SupremaKlanster hate criminals are murdering blacks/POC/minorities/disableds/Patriots fans at a rate of 100 skrillion per nanosecond! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain…

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-weekend-violence20170821-story,amp.html

    1. Rick C-137

      That memory hole is getting real close to real time operation.

  24. Count Potato

    “Nazi-Hunting Fantasies Have Unhinged The Left

    After Charlottesville, the Left’s tendency to smear anyone who disagrees with them as a Nazi is spiraling to the point of paranoid insanity.
    I’ve learned from Twitter in the last week that not only is the Trump White House chock full of white nationalists, but that also extends to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, along with the entire Republican Party. When Republicans like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio denounce Nazis, that doesn’t mean they’re not Nazis, it just means they’re posturing. Paul Ryan “owns” Nazism just by being a Republican, I guess. Oh, and unless he’s actually impeaching Trump, he’s a brownshirt.

    People who complain about calling everybody Nazis are Nazis. Anyone who points out that there were also violent, anti-democracy anarcho-Communist “Antifa” demonstrators in Charlottesville is simply making excuses for Nazis—even if they work for the New York Times.

    This isn’t even guilt by association. It’s guilt by free association.”

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/21/nazi-hunting-fantasies-unhinged-left/

    1. Rick C-137

      Something something HUAC, something something cyclical history.

  25. Street racing could be to blame in deadly go kart-motorcycle crash, police say

    Police say the driver of a motorcycle and the driver of a go kart were both speeding on northbound French Road near Almont Street, which is near E McNichols Road and Van Dyke. Police say they may have been racing.

    It appears the driver of the go kart turned in front of the motorcycle, causing the accident. Police were called to the scene around 7:30 p.m. Sunday.

    The 21-year-old driving the go kart died. The 30-year-old on the motorcycle is in serious condition.

    “Over the last month, we have followed and tracked anywhere between three to 500 street races around the city of Detroit, primarily on Saturday night about 2 or 3 in the morning. It’s extremely dangerous,” says Detroit Police Chief James Craig.

    1. spqr2008

      Yes, racing on those roads in anything not built for offroading would be extremely dangerous.

  26. american socialist

    Does anyone know why what trump said about Charlottesville was so bad? It seems spot on to me

    It appears most folks just ignored what he actually said and made up their own narrative what they think he said or didn’t say

    1. WTF

      You, sir, are exactly right. It’s just insanity on the left these days.

    2. The Elite Elite

      HE DIDN’T SINGLE OUT THE RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE NAZIS!

      1. american socialist

        Haha but he did on Monday

        1. It’s too late!! Then he went off the RAILS AND ATTACKED BOTH!!!eleven1!!!

          1. WTF

            Because the Antifa thugs that showed up with clubs and bags of feces and urine who attacked the Unit the Right group were innocent peaceful counter-protestors and in no way bear any responsibility for any violence. Because Nazis.

          2. straffinrun

            Go over to the other site and you can see Hihn claiming definitive proof that the Nazis started it all. His undeniable proof? Some heavily edited twitter video of about 15 seconds.

          3. WTF

            Well, Hihn is insane, we all know that.

          4. whiz

            I pointed some of his lies and he went off on some rant. He was really unhinged in that thread.

          5. WTF

            BULLIES!!

          6. John Titor

            I’m stopped caring about Hihn and just view him with pity. He’s either actively mentally ill or has dementia, and there’s times you can tell he’s at least somewhat medicated because he’s more mellowed out.

          7. Somalian Road Corporation

            He’s definitely got some issues. Nobody in their right mind has both the drive and the opportunity to output the sheer quantity of text that he does on website comment sections, setting completely aside the content of said text.

          8. Microaggressor

            (Truncated for brevity)

            Michael Hihn|8.22.17 @ 11:09AM|#

            There were no Marxists at Charlottesville.

    3. spqr2008

      Because the truly liberal (in every sense of the word, free speech absolutist types, free love types, free everything types) Hippies didn’t push enough of their free speech absolutism down onto the very next group of College students (the ones of my parents’ age, in the early 70s). Again, I have been kicking the crap out of my friend’s parents over this shit, pointing out how the old school liberals they very much respected (as well as his dad’s alma mater, the University of Chicago) would have been very disappointed of their current views (HE CALLED OUT THE ANTIFA VIOLENT THUGS TOO!!!!) and were increasingly disappointed in the media even in the Bush years, for not putting out the actual stories, and criticizing him on bullshit instead. They, like me, thought that there was plenty of room for contention with Bush’s policies, but the manner in which the media was operating was counterproductive, because it would cause smart people with a decent bullshit detector to go, “wait a minute, this is crap.”

  27. PieInTheSKy

    And now I give you :
    The Guardian view on censoring the internet: necessary, but not easy
    Editorial

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/21/the-guardian-view-on-censoring-the-internet-necessary-but-not-easy

    The punchline

    Different countries will have different regulatory regimes, some better, some worse, and private companies will have varying ethical standards. That is inevitable. The central distinction that applies to governments is not the act of censorship itself, but the extent to which the rules are openly and democratically made, and fairly applied through an independent judiciary.

    So basically Top Men and dimocracy

    1. american socialist

      Progs project…they are totalitarians and authoritarians

    2. Rick C-137

      That’s some scary shit right there. Can’t believe the mask has slipped that far

      1. WTF

        It’s The Guardian, they already prosecute people in the UK for wrongthink.

        1. Rick C-137

          Fair point. The UK is one step off from Airstrip One so it’s no surprise.

  28. Count Potato

    “Jefferson Memorial exhibit update will acknowledge slavery record

    “Recent events only reinforce the need for an open, inclusive and safe space for Americans to exercise their First Amendment rights and to gather in pursuit of our shared ideals — life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all,” Townsend wrote in her message Thursday. “I hope you will join us as we steward private support to implement modern and resilient solutions that can transform this dynamic space and preserve the historic legacy of the National Mall. We want to hear from you, and we want to work with you.”

    “Recent events only reinforce the need for an open, inclusive and safe space for Americans to exercise their First Amendment rights and to gather in pursuit of our shared ideals — life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all,” Townsend wrote in her message Thursday. “I hope you will join us as we steward private support to implement modern and resilient solutions that can transform this dynamic space and preserve the historic legacy of the National Mall. We want to hear from you, and we want to work with you.””

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jefferson-memorial-exhibit-update-will-acknowledge-slavery-record/article/2632084

    1. WTF

      Recent events only reinforce the need for an open, inclusive and safe space…

      Yes, because mere words and images render a space “unsafe”. Fucking idiots.

      1. WTF

        I also love how “inclusive” means “promote the proggie agenda, fuck anyone who disagrees”.

        1. AlexinCT

          It’s like “bipartisanship” means do what proggies want.

          These people know the value of controlling the narrative so they can control the thinking and actions of others.

    2. wdalasio

      Well, congratulations, guys, I guess. You’ve bought yourself an extra two weeks. The price is that you conceded the argument.

      1. R C Dean

        The price is that you conceded the argument.

        Actually, they have now joined in the heckler’s veto. And I fully believe they are stupid enough to think this means no further demands will be made.

        1. wdalasio

          And I fully believe they are stupid enough to think this means no further demands will be made.

          It was in regard to that next round of demands that I was referring.

    3. R C Dean

      We want to hear from you, and we want to work with you.

      I seriously doubt they want to hear from or work with me.

    4. safe space for Americans to exercise their First Amendment rights

      The only safe space is in a pine box.

      1. AlexinCT

        You must have missed that Sam Kinneson bit about the necrophiliac working in the morgue…

  29. Q Continuum

    Posted previously, but just so wonderful it’s worth posting again.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html?mcubz=0

    Travel agency: So ladies, if you want to really feel the Earth move and finally experience that eye-rolling, toe-curling, multi-orgasmic pleasure you’ve been craving, book your ticket to Venezuela today!

    1. Rick C-137

      So Beria was the epitome of sexiness then?

      Also ‘from each according their ability to each according to their need’ has some pretty dark implications for sex, but having a worms eye view of history will do that I suppose.

      1. Somalian Road Corporation

        I think it was in one of Ayn Rand’s books of essays she had some leftist bright spark at the time quoted about a “right to orgasm” as part of the sales pitch. Rand being Rand, of course, the ever-present followup questions: “A right? Provided–by whom? At whose expense?”

  30. Slammer

    I smeared sunblock all over my eyeballs to watch the eclipse yesterday. It still hurts.

    1. Rick C-137

      Ocular sunscreen, seems legit.

    2. Tundra

      Also funnier than any of the Fringe jokes.

    3. straffinrun

      eyeballs. FTFY

    4. I forgot the sunblock, and it turned my brown eyes blue.

  31. PieInTheSKy

    And to finish The Guardian revue

    A-level reforms may have helped boys achieve better results

    As some educationalists argue the return of the end-of-year exam favours males, others say it is too early judge

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/aug/17/a-level-reforms-helped-boys-results

    “After years of girls outperforming their male counterparts, Thursday’s results indicate boys are starting to close the gap.

    One factor, it has been suggested, could be the reintroduction of end-of-year exams as part of the A-level reforms this year. The exams are perceived as favourable to boys by some educationalists, who have argued they are less likely to work consistently throughout the year and prefer to throw all their preparations into a final, decisive exam as opposed to continuous assessment.”

    Myself in school I found the continuous assessment in class part kinda biased

    1. trshmnstr

      If you can cram everything in a 2 week span, why the hell is the class 12 weeks long?

      1. For the Girls to do their “Social Learning”

        –OR–

        Do you really expect a unionized teacher to Work?

  32. The Late P Brooks

    It appears most folks just ignored what he actually said and made up their own narrative what they think he said or didn’t say

    It’s the opposite of the “Charlie Brown’s teacher” phenomenon. Instead of “Waah, waah, waah,” they hear, “And then, we’ll round up all the darkies, seal them in shipping containers, and dump them in the ocean.”

    1. american socialist

      Similar to the google memo. They didn’t actually read it

      1. AlexinCT

        That might undermine the fucking narrative with potentially pesky facts or logic, so DUH!

    2. PieInTheSKy

      That seems environmentally unfriendly. Unless those containers can help create coral reefs

  33. Count Potato

    “Shorter Trump: “Afghanistan: give us your minerals!””

    https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/899804566472077312

    Grandpa is dank af.

    1. Count Potato

      “Ron Paul is right when he says we are wasting lives and money in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/103920143301750785

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Unless those containers can help create coral reefs

    Of course. Also, fish food.

  35. Mad Scientist

    Make sure to tell somebody you love them today. It’ll make both of you happy.

    STEVE SMITH LOVE TO MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY EVERY DAY!

    1. WTF

      STEVE SMITH LOVE NOT LIKE A SQUARE’S LOVE!!

      1. Rick C-137

        STEVE SMITH LOVE FIT INTO LOVE SQUARE THOUGH

  36. Juvenile Bluster

    Ah, the Washington Post. Such important journalism.

    Gawker has been gone for a year. We’ve never needed it more than now

    That assumes (i) that Gawker is actually gone (they just moved all the content to the other network sites, especially Deadspin), and (ii) that anyone needed Gawker ever.

    1. John

      There is just not enough left wing snark in the media today.

    2. american socialist

      Yea wtf. What would gawker be accomplishing?

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It launched the careers of an excellent set of young journalists

      They all went to Columbia for god’s sake!

      1. John Titor

        The journalist class furiously masturbating over their own hacks never gets any less pathetic.

      2. Somalian Road Corporation

        I’ve gotten into the habit of, whenever I read something particularly egregious, looking up the credentials of the “journalist”–they all fucking went to Columbia, even the fucking local maroons–and how many tweets/hour they average.

  37. Rick C-137

    Oh.Em.Gee

    You guys, I found the purest derp and it’s mind meltingly fantastic

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Ancestral medicine beginners can start their journeys by reflecting on patterns in their own lives and the lives of their families. If there are certain themes that keep coming up, dig deeper. Track if, when, and how ancestors appear in your dreams.

        There is this one neanderthal that keeps showing up….

        1. Count Potato

          That’s because you keep feeding him.

        2. Mad Scientist

          HIS NAME STEVE? MY NAME STEVE!

        3. wdalasio

          Please progressives go in for “ancestral medicine”. All of this “antibiotics”, “surgery” and “science” stuff is just soooo patriarchal. You really need to focus on more natural, egalitarian, modalities. And think of all the healthcare dollars that frees up for the underprivileged.

      2. Dr. Fronkensteen

        Ancestral medicine is the opposite of the Western medicine practiced in our healthcare system today — a system driven by profits and quick, temporary fixes.

        They forgot “And the scientific method” Reality based indeed.

    1. Count Potato

      “Ancestral medicine beginners can start their journeys by reflecting on patterns in their own lives and the lives of their families. If there are certain themes that keep coming up, dig deeper. Track if, when, and how ancestors appear in your dreams.

      Don’t be afraid to ask your ancestors for healing directly. rafael/a luna-pizano, who incorporates his Filipinx and Mexíca roots into his energy and body work, suggests honoring our ancestors with small ceremonies, such as putting out food and water for them.

      Neesha Powell-Twagirumukiza (she & they pronouns) is an Everyday Feminism Reporting Fellow. Neesha identifies as an intersectional feminist, womanist, writer, community organizer, facilitator, dancer, freedom fighter, wife, and cat mama. She’s constantly conspiring in the name of liberated Black futures, queer and trans people of color power, solidarity economics, and transformative justice/community accountability. Neesha’s based in a suburb south of Seattle, where she lives, loves, and creates with chosen family.”

      1. Sorry, but I’d rather put my trust in reproducable results rather than your hippie religious beliefs.

      2. Chipwooder

        Womanist? So PCU was prophetic, I see.

      3. Trolleric the Goth

        filipinx? really? REALLY?

      4. R C Dean

        intersectional feminist, womanist, writer, community organizer, facilitator, dancer, freedom fighter, wife, and cat mama.

        One of these things is not like the others.

        1. WTF

          And one of those things provides the most information about her.
          It used to be that crazy cat ladies would leave the rest of the world alone.

      5. Yusef drives a Kia

        What?

    2. Slammer

      Ancestral medicine= shark fins and rhino horns

      1. AlexinCT

        Kaiju powder to get the male member hard!

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          You’ll need it with the EF “ladies”

  38. John

    http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/450624/trump-last-straw-charlottesville-antifa-alt-right-battles

    I don’t know that there is a writer on the Right who has fallen further faster than Goldberg. He was never great or a particularly deep thinker. But, he was entertaining and very good at taking apart the Left. Trump has caused him to lose his mind. The irony of this piece is that he is all over Twitter attacking the left for pretending that the Antifa are not violent. Yet, he spends his entire weekly column saying it is the end of the Trump Presidency because Trump did exactly what Goldberg is doing now.

    And one of the bigger peeves of mine is his statement that “conservatism would be in better shape had Hillary won”. That is nice but the country would not be. Amazing how these flag waving bastards are happy to watch the country suffer so their beloved movement can benefit. That is real patriotism there.

    1. Slammer

      I’ve stopped reading the National Review. And the Weekly Standard.

      I still read Claremont Review of Books cover to cover.

      1. John

        Publications like the Post and the Times have gone crazy but you could argue they have done so to please their readers. I can’t think of any other publications who have so willfully alienated their readership more than those two. I guess they figure they can get by on corporate donations and don’t need readers.

        1. american socialist

          Post has Tom really crazy

        2. wdalasio

          I can’t think of any other publications who have so willfully alienated their readership more than those two.

          Oh, I don’t know about that. I think glibertarians can think of at least one….

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Ouch!

          2. John

            Yeah there is that other publication which shall not be named.

      2. antisthenes

        National Review isn’t really worse than it ever was, it just hates Trump. But it hasn’t gone soft on antifa or Year Zero overall.

        1. AlexinCT

          Hey, members of the credentialed elite crowd not liking the fact that the plebes turned on them and elected a common guy getting all huffy about it is to be expected. After all, they still need those invitations to the cocktail parties…

    2. Count Potato
    3. straffinrun

      Trumps critics are so unhinged that we have no choice but to abandon him. Wow. I didn’t vote for him, but I actually find myself defending him against many criticisms. Bet I’m not the only one, either.

      1. bacon-magic

        The dems at my work think I love Trump since no one speaks up against this stupidity except me and one other(real Trump fan with hat). I was calling him PT Barnum before the election but the media has taught all these jackasses too well, they just bray and kick with their hind legs at anything not Democrat.

    4. The SC – and Madame Clinton’s corruption – was more than enough to have me rooting for the lesser of two weevils.

      1. AlexinCT

        Ditto.

    5. KibbledKristen

      Like many here have posited, the conservatives don’t want to be in power. They want the Dems to be in power so they can bitch and whine and never do anything and use “Dem obstruction” as an excuse.

      1. american socialist

        Exactly

      2. John

        That is totally it. They are not mature enough to make choices and live in the real world where there isn’t always a good choice much less a perfect one. They would rather be out of power and live in a fantasy world where Utopia is always just one Republican victory away. They are pathetic, all of them.

      3. american socialist

        See Obamacare repeal. They got caught with their pants down since trump won

        1. AlexinCT

          That’s because they really are not conservative at all (especially financially) and actually tend to agree with this big government shit the collectivists peddle. But see, it is a great to pretend to care for your fundraising. Actually, fixing shit like Obamacare, or better yet, getting government out of healthcare completely, is not good for their ability to make money…

      4. R C Dean

        They have a sweet gig as the Loyal Opposition. All the perks, none of the responsibility. Why would they want to change that?

    6. american socialist

      Conservativism to these people is proclaiming to be owners and principled conservatives while not ever actually delivering any results as the progs move gov further left

      I can’t stand grand standers who are more concerned about optics

    7. american socialist

      The biggest benefit of trump of is not only the courts

      But also federal agencies particularly the EPA….that is YUGE

      So called true conservatives don’t understand this how big the federal agencies are

    8. american socialist

      If the national review had their way Jeb! Would be nominee and would have got beaten soundly by hillary

      1. John

        Someone on here, I forget who said that it is the goal of every Republican to some day give a gracious concession speech after loosing the Presidency to a Democrat. And it really is the truth.

        1. Chipwooder

          Think that was John Titor, but it’s a common expression. And yes, pretty much dead on. I remember, back when I was a kid, how my dad hated Bob Michel so much for that exact reason. The main goal of Michel’s career seemed to be avoiding saying or doing anything that might offend all of his close friends from the Dem Party.

          1. John Titor

            Wasn’t me, I thought it was you for some reason.

    9. Rufus the Monocled

      I don’t see how conservatism or any other ideology could be ‘better’ or ‘worst’ based on who is holding office.

      Enough with Hillary. The devil has already claimed her. Move on.

      1. John

        If your movement would be better off because a woman who hates everything about it is elected President, maybe the problem is with your movement. Maybe they should have elected Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein. Think how great things would be for conservatism then!!

        1. american socialist

          Also I think we will see now:

          1. Wikileaks wasn’t a hack but inside
          2. Obama spying on political opponents
          3. Awans
          4. Hillary email probe sham

          With Hillary this gets buried

          1. Count Potato

            If Hillary won, the whole “RUSSSIA!!!!!!” thing never would have happened.

          2. american socialist

            Exactly

          3. AlexinCT

            Actually, they would declare it reset and an ally right up until she ordered the nukes to fly.

  39. KibbledKristen

    Trump vs. Amazon (I had no idea this was a thing)

    1. straffinrun

      “Amazon is doing great damage to tax paying retailers. Towns, cities and states throughout the U.S. are being hurt – many jobs being lost!”

      “Right here! Guys that hate Trump, over here! Look at this Luddite crap Trump is spewing.”

      *Crickets from the left*

      1. KibbledKristen

        I bet the progs hate Amazon as much as they hate Trump (while maintaining a Prime membership, of course)

        1. I just wish I could say “I just want my free shipping and maybe the Grant Tour – don’t lump the crappy ‘Amazon original’ programming into it.”

          1. Crappy Amazon original programming like… The Grand Tour?

            And the membership fee isn’t there to pay for your shipping, the streaming, etc. anyway; it’s there to entice you to buy more from Amazon, a la a Costco membership.

          2. No, I want that one, the rest of their crap – like ‘Transparent’ can stay in the box where the people who want it can buy it and not clutter up my membership.

            Actually, I’d be willing to give up all the streaming for a pay per show model if it meant I didn’t have to pay for the crap pieces that get mixed in.

            In fact – most of the things bundled in should go. The one thing I actually use is the shipping. I keep asking if it’s time to drop prime every time they announce new garbage being stuffed in the pipe.

          3. R C Dean

            I’ve got Prime, and I’ve never had to watch any Amazon programming in order to watch anything else. I don’t care what they have that I don’t like, as long as they have stuff that I do.

          4. The impression it gives is one of “My membership helped fund this tripe” rather than being forced to watch it.

            This was literally the case with cable bills, where stations could subsist on zero viewers but being bundled into packages where people would have to pay for them to get what they actually wanted.

            I can’t shake that impression.

      2. John

        That is the thing, none of Trump’s critics ever make any kind of substantive criticism. You give a good example of a legitimate criticism. But they never say things like that. They are forever bitching and moaning about his tweets and his offenses to their delicate sensibilities and courtly manners. I really think that Trump intends that. He knows just how to push their buttons and drive them crazy so they never bother to make any coherent or meaningful criticisms of him.

        1. american socialist

          Progs care about optics, their ego and status, and power only.

          1. antisthenes

            But Trump is good at baiting them into acting exactly like the out-of-touch-to-the-point-of-insanity elitists that they are, further driving a wedge between the left/GOPe institutions and the masses. It remains to be seen if it results in a congressional purge; if it does, especially in the Senate, the rest of his agenda will go smoother, for better or worse.

        2. straffinrun

          It would be amazing if someone could come out of the left or center and unite people around a message of Hope! (Oh God, not again). If someone does emerge as a beacon of hope in this atmosphere, it sure as hell isn’t going to be someone libertarians or conservatives are going to like.

          1. american socialist

            I hope to get you dependent on the government!

        3. Suthenboy

          Exactly right. Ad Hominems and phony baloney accusations of shit that never happened. The same is leveled at his supporters.

          This is what happens when the fourth estate completely forgets what their job is. They have no idea how to do it. There is plenty of legitimate criticism to be had from protectionism to the execrable war on drugs. They aren’t interested in those criticisms because those relate to the interests of the country. All they are interested in is power and playing for their team so they gibber about identity politics and call him a cheeto monkey.

          It’s pathetic.

          1. R C Dean

            They aren’t interested in those criticisms because those relate to the interests of the country.

            I would say they aren’t interested in those criticisms because they can also be levelled at their Democrat masters.

          2. AlexinCT

            This is what happens when the fourth estate completely forgets what their job is.

            They haven’t forgotten what it is: they know that it is to be dnc operatives with bylines.

            There is a distinction there, maybe one without meaning, but there is.

        4. Chipwooder

          And there ARE plenty of grounds for such substantive criticism. Drug war, asset forfeiture, staying in Afghanistan, trade protectionism, etc. The left, of course, cares not for any of that, not when there are RUSSIANS! NAZIS! to freak out about.

          1. straffinrun

            The best lack all conviction, while the worst
            Are full of passionate intensity.

            Yates from the Second Coming. Nailed it.

  40. Count Potato
    1. Isn’t being a doctor nothing but triggering:

      “A million to one, doc, a million to one.”

      1. Chipwooder

        You had to use corkscrew pasta….

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Trigger warnings may have a valuable role in some areas of society, but a medical-school classroom isn’t one of them, and the reason for that should be clear.

      Robby lives.

      1. R C Dean

        Trigger warnings may don’t have a valuable role in some any areas of society outside of a grade school classroom, but a medical-school classroom isn’t one of them, and the reason for that should be clear.

        1. Trigger warnings don’t have a valuable role

          1. R C Dean

            Also acceptable.

    3. R C Dean

      I’d love it if a med school put up a petition for trigger warnings in classrooms, and then dismissed every student who signed it.

      Trust me, there’s a lot more where they came from.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Trust me, there’s a lot more where they came from

        India and Pakistan?

  41. Mark Krikorian‏Verified account @MarkSKrikorian 2h2 hours ago
    When are they going to rename the capital of Ohio? The name “Obamagrad” is still available.

    1. F. Stupidity Jr.

      I made that same name suggestion for Chicago sometime back.

    2. Jarflax

      School Down South City?

      runs away and hides from Sloopy

      1. spqr2008

        But how does that make sense, since there’s literally a Hell, Michigan (and yes, it freezes over Glenn Frey knew what he was talking about

      2. TTUN can hire a coach that wears Woody glasses. But you can’t co-opt our nicknames.

  42. american socialist

    I am not a fan of protectionism in general but can sympathize with trump supporters wanting it

    They can’t help the progs want to regulate tangible good businesses out of existence and make overseas look enticing

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      No. Stop that shit. Not going to excuse Trump’s shitty policies and the shitty people who follow them just because the progs are shitty in exactly the opposite way.

      1. John Titor

        This. An entire political sphere where everyone thinks they’re special snowflakes who need protection from Big Daddy government is poisonous to human achievement.

        1. kbolino

          Protection from usually means protection against. It took me a few times reading your post to realize that you meant protection provided by.

  43. ChipsnSalsa

    because a group of national socialists and a group of international socialists can’t keep from being assholes

    to be a socialist is to be an asshole and think you and your buddies know better than the commoner.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    “conservatism would be in better shape had Hillary won”.

    True. Unfortunately, Trump’s Presidency has revealed them to be part and parcel of the establishmentarian consensus. Their “opposition” to the expansion of government is nothing more than Kabuki theater. With Hillary in the White House, they would be free to engage in empty posturing, secure in the knowledge no actual changes would result.

    1. american socialist

      Does anyone think a jeb or kasich would leave Paris? I don’t. It was a terrible deal

      I like how trump has stones. And his foreign policy has been top notch…basically make other country own the nuisance

      When are the cons going to block federal funding for planned parenthood after all that bloviating?

      1. Bob

        I don’t think any other Rebublican pol would pull out of the Paris climate agreement. They would have given some speech about how they love the climate and we need to balance environmental concerns with economic ones and then stayed in because they want to avoid criticism.

      2. R C Dean

        When are the cons going to block federal funding for planned parenthood after all that bloviating?

        Pretty sure they took it out of their failed OCare reform and expansion bill. So, never.

      3. WTF

        When are the cons going to block federal funding for planned parenthood after all that bloviating?

        Why are you opposed to Women’s Health, you misogynist shitlord?

  45. Derpetologist

    Well, this sucks.

    That Army helicopter that crashed near Hawaii? My brother was friends with the pilot. They went to flight training together.

    Generally, the older, worn out helicopters are used for training. I wonder if that caused the accident. My brother said one time he was on a training flight and the chopper started making a weird sound. He landed in some random field and got a ride back to base while the mechanics checked it out.

    On a side note, there were parts of Trump’s speech I was pleased with, particularly the parts about not doing nation building anymore and loosening the rules of engagement.

    1. american socialist

      I also like his play to leverage Pakistan and to stop this stoopid announcing dates and x troops.

      1. Is pakistan actually interested in doing anything about the Taliban? Methinks that getting too involved would just stir up instability in their own back hills they can’t rightly afford.

        1. american socialist

          Pakistan will take notice if USA cuts off their funds from us and we help boost India

          The obama fp was essentially bribe the other country not to cause trouble as they did anyway

        2. Number.6

          The issue is that the leadership of Pakistan is hopelessly compromised. They have a security services thoroughly shot-thru’ with islamicists, and the government is utterly corrupt (let’s remember they acted as a nuclear weapon superstore for years, and probably still do), and that’s going to compromise their willingness (and ability) to march into lands they have little historical and no practical current control over, and kick butts.

          Don’t forget that just about every national boundary out there is somewhat artificial, and this isn’t solely the fault of the Western powers (for a change). There’s nothing that makes a Baluchistani inherently ‘more’ a Pakistani than an Afghani, or an Iranian. Their loyalties are regional/tribal and not national, and have historically opposed rule by anyone, and when they can, groups like this (not singling out the Baluchistanis here) will oppose outside interference.

          Over the last couple of decades the Pakistani government has undertaken a few campaigns that they claimed were aimed at getting a tighter grip on these provinces. On at least two of these occasions the operations were abandoned after the government forces were decisively resisted.

          In the case of Baluchistan, there’s an active (and seemingly somewhat effective) separatist movement that gets a lot less coverage than the Kurds,

          Source warning (although it illustrates the point) in Al Jazeera.

          So, are Pakistan willing to try and bring some of its somewhat restive provinces under control? Maybe. Are they able to do so? Seemingly not

          1. peachy rex

            And let’s not forget that Pakistan is on intimate terms with the PRC – which probably quite likes the notion of the US endlessly mired in Afghanistan.

          2. Number.6

            And an unpredictable ‘Crazy Ivan’ Pakistan on India’s North West border siphons Indian troops away from Sikkim, Nepal and Bhutan.

          3. LT_Fish

            Well…technically as long as AFG is unsecure, Chinese corps aren’t getting any resources from the mines they’ve been paying leases for.

          4. AlexinCT

            So, are Pakistan willing to try and bring some of its somewhat restive provinces under control? Maybe. Are they able to do so? Seemingly not

            The Pakistani military, which is the real center of power and the people really running that shithole, have no desire to ever curtail the terrorists, as they see them as an effective and necessary weapon to maintain their grip on power and a direct vehicle for Pakistan to engage in some North Korea like blackmailing of rich western morons.

    2. Bob

      I knew the Pilot as well. But no, the older helicopters aren’t used primarily for training unless they mean non-deployable units. Mechanical issues are rarely the cause.

    3. Juvenile Bluster

      I don’t like the strategy overall, but I did like the parts you mentioned as well.

      For what it’s worth, cut and pasting a post from my cousin (Air Force) and a friend of his. My cousin’s going back to Afghanistan (3rd or 4th tour at this point) sometime before the end of the year.

      President Trumps speech on Afghanistan was solid… Finally sounds like a president, finally holding all Americans accountable for the actions on our own soil, finally holding other countries accountable for economic contribution for this damn conflict… It’s a good time to be in the military that’s for sure! To all my people that head over there.. give em hell for me please

      and from my cousin

      I just watched the speech. Hands down best approach he could have taken. At least we finally have a president that isn’t afraid of sticking up for the troops.

  46. CMS may allow miniature horses inside the classroom

    think that can be a bit distracting,” parent Bambi Ahad said.

    Even school board members think the distractions caused by a miniature horse would be anything but miniature.

    “You try to visualize in your mind, a miniature horse coming into your school building and your classroom, and the uproar that especially little kids would have,” chair Mary McCray said.

    Judy Kidd, with the Classroom Teachers Association, said it’s absurd and had no further comments.

    The school board is trying to update their policy to match the Americans with Disabilities Act, which lists miniature horses as service animals.

    “I think it’s a great idea, and I think children are flexible and would eventually adapt,” teacher Linda Havrun said. “However, I don’t think the classrooms, we don’t have the room for it.”

    1. F. Stupidity Jr.

      “However, I don’t think the classrooms, we don’t have the room for it.”

      Simple enough. Let’s simply raise taxes to pay for newer, larger classrooms that will accommodate the children and their horses. What’s that? You don’t want to give just a small percentage of your money, you’d never miss it, to help children? Why do you hate the children?

    2. R C Dean

      Bizarrely, under federal law there are functionally two (2) kinds of “service animal” – dogs, usually seeing eye dogs, and . . . miniature horses. The rule starts out saying only dogs, but then says:

      A public entity or private business must allow a person with a disability to bring a miniature horse on the premises as long as it has been individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of the individual with a disability, as long as the facility can accommodate the miniature horse’s type, size, and weight. The rules that apply to service dogs, outlined below, also apply to miniature horses.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        “as long as the facility can accommodate the miniature horse’s type, size, and weight.”

        No, an overcrowded classroom can not accommodate a mini horse.

    3. Count Potato

      “I literally want my pony!!!”

    4. A hundred little girls squeal in delight.

      (and no this isn’t a story for OMWC)

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Generally, the older, worn out helicopters are used for training. I wonder if that caused the accident. My brother said one time he was on a training flight and the chopper started making a weird sound. He landed in some random field and got a ride back to base while the mechanics checked it out.

    I used to know an ex- Air Force guy who said he wouldn’t get in a helicopter unless people were actually shooting at him.

    That whole “who needs spare parts, when here are sexxxy fighter planes to fund” pisses me off, purely as a matter of practicality.

    We are using the shit out of mundane equipment like trucks and helicopters, to the point of wearing them out; but those idiots at the Pentagon are all worried about getting the goddam F35 up and running.

    1. Gilmore

      That whole “who needs spare parts, when here are sexxxy fighter planes to fund” pisses me off, purely as a matter of practicality.

      People hate on Neocons as a matter of rhetorical-necessity…

      …but many forget that one of their key-issues was breaking the military-congress symbiosis and the constant need for the next huge-spending project, while ignoring obvious needs for change/evolution within the military.

      or at least that was shit they talked a big game on. Wolfowitz ended up babysitting the JSF program while Cheney is the one who wanted to kill it. Rummy instead wanted to divert funds for batshit ideas like the “Future Force Warrior” programs which birthed wonders like…. well, ARPAT. and not much else for $15billion. For all i know they might have actually ended up making everything worse… but for a while in the 1990s, they did seem to be the only ones who said, ‘we need more bullets-and-training money, less ‘radar-evading-frisbees’ development’

    2. Brasidas

      At least according to some of my old professors who did nothing but research reliability for the Air Force, it’s easier to get an additional aircraft then it is to get spare parts, so there are always a couple of parts planes in the back of the hanger. The parts aircraft are cycled out enough so they can meet their X% of aircraft flew this month standards.

  48. Chipwooder

    “Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell ya, I gotta plead ignorance here – had I know that this sort of thing was frowned upon here….”

  49. mexican sharpshooter

    The shitshow is going to make a stop in my town!
    How to attend (or protest at) President Trump’s Phoenix rally Tuesday

    What to bring

    Be prepared to stand outside for a long period of time. The weather forecast for Tuesday is mostly sunny with a high of 102 degrees. Consider bringing:
    — Snacks and a lot of water.
    Cash. This will make it easier to buy Trump merchandise such as T-shirts, hats and pins, as well as snacks from any food vendors on the street

    You’re inviting people to buy Trump gear?

    What not to bring: Guns

    It is illegal for anyone except law enforcement to bring a gun or weapon inside the Phoenix Convention Center.

    The center is also banning backpacks, bags, packages, glass and metal containers, coolers, signs, mace and pepper spray, aerosols, toy guns, ammunition, explosives, laser pointers, drones and selfie sticks, according to the website.

    What?

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Blah. Tag fail.

    2. R C Dean

      It is illegal for anyone except law enforcement to bring a gun or weapon inside the Phoenix Convention Center.

      Since the riot will be outside, I think you can still carry it where you need it.

    3. R C Dean

      Just looked at that list again. You know what I didn’t see on it?

      Knives.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        *spins Esee Izula between fingers*

        Yup.

    4. Nephilium

      Selfie stick, a little stick that holds your camera and has a way of triggering a picture being taken so you can annoy more people around you then just asking someone to take your picture.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        I know what they are. I’m just wondering why they are classified with guns, mace, ammunition, etc. Its a pretty crappy melee tool.

        1. Number.6

          What about if someone attacks you with a pointed stick?

        2. ChipsnSalsa

          They are just annoying in large crowds.

        3. R C Dean

          Its a pretty crappy melee tool.

          Not if you roll with a tactical selfie stick.

        4. Somalian Road Corporation

          It’s a collapsible baton. Is there really a non-crappy melee tool in this situation, though? What are you going to do, bring your polearm?

          1. R C Dean

            Is there really a non-crappy melee tool in this situation, though?

            Knives are allowed (or at least, not on the prohibited list). I think that counts.

          2. Somalian Road Corporation

            Unless you’re Crocodile Dundee and smuggling it in, a knife that doesn’t also fall under the “gun or weapon” exclusion seems suboptimal if the violent communist mob decides to surround you with a dozen people who want to keep kicking you while you’re on the ground or gifting you with bike locks of peace, love and tolerance to the skull.

            No, you definitely want the polearm there. Or better yet, a longsword.

            In related news, I’ll be staying away from downtown Phoenix today. Practice avoidance.

          3. R C Dean

            Yeah, its caught under “weapon” (or could be – “Officer this is a machete. Its a tool for clearing brush, not a weapon.”).

            But, I bet when the first antifa goon starts spurting blood from a deep cut, the rest run like pussies. Besides, if there really is an antifa mob around me, I don’t think the lack of knife will make them go easy. In that case, I’d rather have a knife than not.

            Practice avoidance.

            Excellent advice.

          4. R C Dean

            SRC, I would have one quibble with your recommended kit for a riot.

            Polearms and longswords need space for effective use. In your more crowded type situation, I’d probably go gladius or wakizashi or the like – shorter strokes, quicker recovery, more oriented toward stabbing than slashing.

          5. Dr Mossy Lawn

            Sign handles are the standard pole-arm for demonstrations. Honest officer, we only use kiln dried hardwood deadfall for our artisanal protest sign handles. Not that crappy mass market pine.

  50. The Late P Brooks

    Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

    Bret Stephens is a perfect fit for the NYT.

  51. Derpetologist

    It is now taboo to dress up as members of a long-dead civilization:
    University of Michigan frat cancels ‘Nile’-themed party after student complaints

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/35785/

    ***
    The University of Michigan’s Delta Sigma Phi chapter announced Saturday that it canceled a “Nile”-themed party after the president of the school’s Egyptian Student Association criticized the fraternity on social media.

    The party urged students to “honor our Egyptian roots and join us on the night of September 1st to celebrate our newly built pyramid” and to “come to [the party] as a mummy, Cleopatra or King Tut,” according to a now-deleted Facebook event page, The Michigan Daily reported.

    Egyptian Student Association president Yasmeen Afifi lambasted the fraternity and the party in a series of tweets, repeatedly signaling the frat brothers out for their skin color.

    “I am the president of the Egyptian student association and these whites don’t know what they got themselves into,” she tweeted Friday.

    “White umich back on their bull [expletive] and cultural appropriation can’t wait !!!,” another tweet reads.
    ***

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      How can you appropriate a culture that’s been dead for two millennia?

      1. R C Dean

        There’s a good response to the SJWs:

        “We apologize for planning a party to corpsefuck the long-dead Egyptian culture of the Pharoahs, the last traces of which, outside a few monuments (for now) were eradicated by the Muslims in the 8th century. We join with our Egyptian student comrades in demanding the removal of any classes on ancient Egypt from the curriculum of the school, to prevent any further attempts at cultural appropriation. In an effort to make amends, all are invited to a halal party at the fraternity, which, per the requirements of Islam, will be free of alcohol, pork, shellfish, and any other foodstuffs not permitted by the strictures of halal. Complimentary freedom sacks available at the door for our female guests.”

        1. I read that as “will be free alcohol, pork, shellfish and other foodstuffs”. was going to snark that the “freedom sacks” will be transparent.

        1. R C Dean

          I think we could turn that into a party game. “Throw the Copt in the Well” might be too derivative, though.

    2. Does she realize the backlash to all of this will be a different kind of party altogether?

    3. Slammer

      Nile:
      Trigger warning-contains blacks in white face

      https://youtu.be/99KHIkENKBM

    4. Raston Bot

      pussies. throw the fucking party. one small theme change: dressup limited to “Foreign Invaders that Conquered the Late Great Ancient Egypt”. you can take your pick from Canaanites/Hyksos, Libyans, Nubians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Achaemenid Persians, and Macedonians.

      1. Number.6

        I’d opt for (((Canaanites))), just for the lulz.

    5. Akira

      For fuck’s sake, are the going to ban Verdi’s Aida as well?

    6. Scotticus Finch

      repeatedly signaling the frat brothers out for their skin color

      Delicious typo, that one.

    7. Brasidas

      come to [the party] as a mummy, Cleopatra or King Tut,

      How dare that Egyptian appropriate Hellenic culture to complain about it!

  52. Derpetologist

    today in alternet
    Trump Looked Directly at the Solar Eclipse Without Eye Protection, Because of Course He Did
    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/did-trump-burn-his-eyes-looking-solar-eclipse

    I poked a little hole in a piece of cardboard and was going to use that to view the eclipse, but it was very cloudy and I had no idea where to look.

    Eskimos made goggles to prevent snow blindness by cutting a long thin notch in a piece of leather. It gave them enough visibility to see where they were going while minimizing exposure.

    1. Tundra

      …I had no idea where to look.

      Up?

    2. Gee so did I – for a second or two – just to see how much cloud coverage there was. Amazing I can still see today.

      And when the cloud coverage was just right, you could see the eclipse without goggles. /medieval method

    3. Somalian Road Corporation

      People would not shut up about this yesterday. I swear to God I heard over 45 minutes of blathering about Trump daring to take a glance before putting the glasses on. Also Nazis.

      It always has to be the most idiotic and petty shit with TDS sufferers, instead of, you know, asset forfeiture or something real.

  53. The Late P Brooks

    NEEDZ MOAR WEIMAR

    Much of this is beyond the Fed’s control. Among the barriers to employment are the rising use of opioids and dismal job prospects for people who have been arrested or imprisoned. Better drug treatment and health care, and sentencing reform, could help, but they are not within the Fed’s purview. The Fed also cannot create a plan to bolster jobs by rebuilding the nation’s infrastructure. Nor can it enact an immigration plan to compensate for an aging population and smaller labor force that can restrict economic growth.

    The Fed is also not responsible for advancing labor standards that help to lift wages. Republicans oppose a meaningful rise in the minimum wage, which was already inadequate when the current $7.25 hourly rate took effect in 2009. The Trump administration is undermining an Obama-era effort to lift middle-class pay by updating rules for paying time-and-a-half for overtime

    Raise the minimum wage. That will get more people into the work force. And let’s get the NLRB busy pushing the unions’ agenda onto businesses, making them less efficient. And prohibit businesses from making informed hiring decisions. And, by all means, keep interest rates low, to encourage misallocation of resources.

    We’ll get the economy ticking like a two dollar watch!

    1. R C Dean

      We’ll get the economy ticking like a two dollar watch!

      But with inflation, comrade, that will be a hundred dollar watch!

    2. Akira

      And prohibit businesses from making informed hiring decisions.

      I’m nursing the conspiracy theory that the Left’s next big push will be to take control of hiring away from businesses by small degrees. Think about it from the leftist mindset: minimum wage fails because businesses will just hire more skilled employees and leave the uneducated and inexperienced people in the dust. I’m sure they blame some of the socioeconomic disparity between black and whites on racist employers giving good jobs to whitey. For the Left, what’s not to like about the government taking control over hiring decisions?

      1. R C Dean

        I’m nursing the conspiracy theory that the Left’s next big push will be to take control of hiring away from businesses by small degrees.

        Barn door, already open.

    3. american socialist

      Higher wages doesn’t necessarily mean you are better off. These idiots think they can just pass laws to utopia

      Wasn’t the nyt complaining recently about low unemployment and low inflation recently?

      1. Number.6

        It’s hard to gin up a race war when everyone’s at work, earning money for themselves.

  54. The Late P Brooks

    “I am the president of the Egyptian student association and these whites don’t know what they got themselves into,” she tweeted Friday.

    Uh-oh. One plague of locusts, coming up.

    1. Mayor: What do you mean, “biblical”?

      Dr. Raymond Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.

      Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.

      Dr. Raymond Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!

      Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes…

      Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!

      Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!

    2. Actually it appears the plague department is short on locusts.

      It will be a plague of gay frogs.

      1. R C Dean

        Sorry, no. Frogs are not halal.

        Frog meat is considered as haraam (non-halal) according to mainstream Islamic dietary laws. Frog meat is not halal for two reasons: the meat to be consumed should not be considered disgusting, and frogs, together with ants, bees, and seabirds, are animals that should not be killed by Muslims.

        1. I voted for the anti-halal party.

          Lets have a pig roast and clambake with shrimp skewers and plenty of booze.

          No frog’s legs though. Too French.

        2. Somalian Road Corporation

          Disgusting? It’s just greasier chicken. Have it with some lemon and it’ll complement that.

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      I don’t think the Egyptians want to go down the plagues road, it ends poorly.