UnCivil Cooks – Fish Stew

Lets see how the resident Glib who doesn’t like anything cooks. We will be making fish stew. This is an improvised recipe that came out of trying to talk myself out of doing something stupid. More or less my first idea was Fish chili. This didn’t sound like it would turn out right, so I talked myself into something less outlandish. Visiting the local mega grocery (that is more than one mile distant from my food-desert located house), I picked up the following items (okay I already had some near the bottom of the list). I’ll start cooking, and sooner or later you’ll be compelled to follow along. Or I’ll randomly switch to first person plural.

  • 1/2 lb perch
  • 1/2 lb shrimp
  • Bacon, 3 rashers
  • 1 onion
  • 1 medium or 3 small potatos
  • carrots
  • 1 bell pepper
  • 12-16 oz stewed tomatos
  • 4 cups vegetable broth
  • Curry Powder
  • Salt and Pepper
  • Corn Starch

The shrimp I got was pre-cooked. There was a good reason for this – that was the cheapest. There is another good reason – it allowed me to not have to spend too much time cooking the shrimp. So I started out peeling the shimp, the carrots, the potatoes, and the onion. This was a good start, and I followed up by quartering and cleaning the bell pepper. Since I was prepping everything, I carved the perch into two-inch squares. Since it came from Soviet Canukistan, it was still rimed with native frost.

Here’s what it all looked like before the chopping started in earnest

Those veggies were too big for the task, to I chopped them into smaller bits, keeping the aromatic and root vegetables separate. This will make later steps easier. I followed it up by moving the pot into the front and cut the bacon into small pieces.

Chopping Completed

Now, we could do this next step in a frying pan and move it to the dutch oven, we don’t need to. It’s plenty easy to do all of this in one pan. Start the heat and cook the bacon. We want the flavorful grease to be released, and will be using it as our fat for this part. Once the bacon has given off enough grease, it’s time to add our onion and bell peppers. We cook until the onions start to brown, there should be some browning on the bottom of the pan, this is fine.

Not Caramelized.

We need to get that tasty material off the bottom of the pan. After all, it’s bacon, onion and peppers, but mostly bacon. We want that in the stew. We could do some fancy deglazing, or we could just use the next ingredient. Pour our can of stewed tomatoes into the pan, liquid included. We’re going to use the acidic liquid from the tomatoes to deglaze the pan and collect that bacony flavor. To make sure we get it all, let’s cover it with a lid and let it simmer for five minutes.

After simmering and deglazing.

All right, we need to start making soup before we can turn it into stew. Lets add the root veggies and three of four cups of the broth. The fourth cup of broth we’re going to reserve for later. This will make sense sooner or later. Some of you might see where this is going.

Almost soup.

At this point we have to turn off the burner frenetically, move the pot to another, and clean up a catastrophe in the kitchen.

Okay, the catastrophe isn’t required, but I did reach into my cabinet, pick up a box of corn starch and promptly drop it. Worse, the lid wasn’t on all that tight and it went everywhere. Half a second of gravity and my kitchen looked like a party at Tony Montana’s house. So I spent too long cleaning up the wite powdery substance, you may see it in the later photographs, because corn starch is pernicious and stubborn.

Once that diversion has been dealt with, we can re-ignite the burner and put the pot back on the heat. Put it on medium to medium high and set a timer for thirty minutes. Go watch some cat videos on YouTube or something.

After our timer goes off, we want to check the potatoes. They need to be cooked now, or we’ll have problems. So if they’re underdone, let it cook a little longer. The carrots can be a little crispy, that won’t be a problem, they’re just carrots.

The content of the pot should look something like this.

Now the bacon is a nice little bit of protein, but it’s not the primary source for this. So lets toss in our shrimp and the perch. Toss in three teaspoons of curry powder and a liberal helping of black pepper. Mix it all in. The perch will cook quickly. If you have anything resembling a membrane on the fillet, it will curl into nice little tubes while it does so. This is all right. This is also why I’m glad the cooked shrimp was the cheapest, since it allowed this step to go fast.

Almost there…

Let’s leave the pot for a while and get a bowl, pour the reserved broth into it and start mixing corn startch in. We want the starch fully integrated and the broth near saturation with corn starch. Once this is done, we pour it into the pot and stir it in until the broth thickens to a gravy. The perch should be fully cooked by now and may start breaking apart while we’re stirring. This is also fine. We’re not trying to serve discrete chunks of fish.

Here’s our stew.

It should be done, we can’t forget to turn off the burner.

We ladle it up into the bowl and … wait a minute…

Gruel

Oh, okay, I just mixed up the order of the photos, that’s the thickener from a few paragraphs back before we poured it into the pot.

Here’s the real bowl. Sorry about the mess:

Stew

Comments

215 responses to “UnCivil Cooks – Fish Stew”

  1. I go to the trouble of cooking and no one bothers to show up.

    1. RegicidalManiac

      I can’t speak for everyone else, but I find it hard to believe you used curry powder.

      Fake news!

    2. Gilmore

      thank you for your efforts

      you have served to make me hungry and now i need to go find something as hearty as this because i aint cooking shit

      1. My dad is allergic to fish so I couldn’t make this anyway.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          ALL fish?

          That’s highly unlikely.

    3. Yusef drives a Kia

      Great instruction, but it needs more BACON!!! I read the whole thing, I’m gonna get some Curry, never used it before
      / not a big fan of fish

      1. There are more bacon-heavy recipes in my repertoire, but this one was not one of them.

    4. Well, you didn’t invite me.

      1. *checks mailing list*

        Oh dear, I didn’t.

    5. mr simple

      By fish stew you mean fish-head gruel, right? I didn’t think you were into “flavors”.

      1. Fish-head gruel? That sounds like some hipstery shit.

        You aren’y linking things “ironically” now are you?

        1. Festus

          Oh Good Heavens, I forgot how weird that video was. My buddy and I dressed up as the garbage bag dudes for Halloween in 1984 and the only people that got it were the rich kids whose parents could afford a cable box.

    6. DEG

      That looks tasty, thanks!

    7. bacon-magic

      Never tried fish stew but I will try this with catfish instead of perch.(because I’m right by the Mississippi and when you say perch here most of us would throw back in)

    1. Even more remarkably, Trevor Noah finally said something funny.

      He said that it does not matter how noble Antifa activists believes their cause is, because “when people see that, all they think is, “Oh shit, it’s vegan ISIS.”

    2. “A blood draw, it just gets thrown around like it’s some simple thing,” she said, according to the Deseret News. “But your blood is your blood. That’s your property.”

      That sounds like seditious talk to me.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Not only that, but this guy was a victim of a severe accident. He needs all the blood he can get.

        The attempted blood draw wasn’t just illegal, it was also medically inappropriate. It served no diagnostic or therapeutic purpose.

        The dude was in a coma. The “trained” cop could have killed him.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          And suffering from burns. At best, it’s reckless indifference.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Yeah, that too. If the burns are that severe, they’re probably covering the arms and anywhere else that you’d draw blood.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      Good.

  2. Akira

    Looks like a good stew, UnCivil.

    I think seafood stews are underrated. One of the best things I ever made was cioppino. Yes, it was made with the frozen seafood that you can get here in Ohio, but it was still really fucking good.

    Right now I’m eating a stew of ham, sweet potatoes, kidney beans, peppers, onions, corn, tomatoes, a bottle of beer, and ham bone broth. It was seasoned with thyme, cumin, cinnamon, red pepper, parsley, and some Habenero Tabasco.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      That sounds awesome! right before I go Grocery shopping, UCS and you give me ideas……

      1. It’s better than showing up and finding yourself bereft of inspiration.

    2. But Enough About Me

      A well-made cioppino is a thing of beauty. Unless it’s got salmon in it.

      Get that shit out of there.

  3. DOOMco

    Now I’m hungry.

    1. Mission Accomplished.

  4. Playa Manhattan

    Salt and pepper?

    That’s far too exotic for me.

    1. But the Curry is a-okay?

    2. thrakkorzog

      Or-ega-no. Now I they’re just making up spices.

  5. DOOMco

    Brunch
    biscuits and gravy with soft boiled eggs and toast.
    I need a smaller spoon.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    I just ate a banana. Next up, a protein shake. Then, I should try to accomplish something.

    Haha, I crack myself up.

    1. Sour Kraut

      Be careful what you do with that peel

      1. Yes, you have to pick just the right tree to get the most special snowflakes rushing to their fainting couches to twit about how evil the society they live lives of leasure in is.

  7. Gilmore

    Out of curiosity, in the event i try this sometime soon…

    …is there any variety of fish that makes better/worse inclusion in a stew? any combo that is particularly tasty?

    basically, given that the types of decent fresh fish available in places will vary… are there any guidelines on what type of fish make best stew-fish, vs. what will suffice in a pinch (types of frozen?) given limited availability?

    1. To be honest – I don’t know. I grabbed Perch because A: it was there and B: it was cheap. It was on ice when I got it (see the joke about it being rimed with Canukistani frost) But since we’re stewing it, anything that is not too powerful a flavor on its own will be workable.

    2. Roger Wilco

      Yeah pick something that is somewhat neutral in flavor and it’ll be a good vehicle for the flavors in the rest of the stew. You’ll want to also get something that is lean (less than %5 fat by weight, perch, haddock, catfish, etc) as opposed to the fattier fish (sable, mackerel, sea bass).

      1. Gilmore

        talapia? (which as far as i can tell is asian catfish) cod filets? sounds like ‘white, light, flakey’ is what is recommended, vs. oily-meaty.

        1. Roger Wilco

          Tilapia and cod would work, too. I found this list that classifies several fish: http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/article/types-fish

          As long as you don’t overcook the fish (and leave that membrane UCS talked about on) it won’t fall apart in the stew

          1. Even if it does fall apart, it won’t be catastrphic.

          2. Gilmore

            “tfw your fish stew reminds you of your last girlfriend”

          3. Gilmore

            *and not because of the flavor hiyooooooo

        2. Playa Manhattan

          I like tilapia but I don’t eat it.

          It’s the only commercial fish that can be farmed from a sewer or septic tank. And if it’s imported, that’s probably where it’s from.

          The Salton Sea is loaded with them, because it’s the only fish that can survive there. Mmmm…. Salton Sea Tilapia.

          1. Gilmore

            if it’s imported

            “Tilapia is a filthy animal. I don’t eat filthy animals.”

            Do you eat crawfish? Pork? also, you know what’s in the ocean? Whale pee. they pee in the ocean all day long.

            I think on the east coast, the majority of Tilapia is coming from fish farms in LA and MS. that’s what i heard thru the grapevine. it sort of became a booming business in the last 2 decades when they could sell something with a fancy name to restaurants on the east cost that was even easier to farm-raise than catfish.

          2. Roger Wilco

            I’ve peed in the ocean several times so likely people on this very website have consumed trace amounts of me.

            Enjoy!

          3. Playa Manhattan

            Pigs are magical animals.

          4. peachy rex

            “Oh, yeah, right, Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal!”

          5. bacon-magic

            Thanks!

        3. But Enough About Me

          Talapia, the tofu of the seas.

          1. Gilmore

            Talapia, the tofu of the seas swamps

  8. But Enough About Me

    OT but excellent: Rex Murphy, the One Sane Voice™ at the CBC, offers up his take on Antifa.

    I particularly liked this little gem:

    “A neo-Nazi and/or white supremacist threat to American democracy exists only in the heads of those who read Marvel Comics for news and think Twitter is a medium for sentient beings.”

    1. Suthenboy

      The report I heard yesterday was that HS and FBI named Antifa a domestic terrorist group over a year ago and had been warning local LE’s of them. Yet there was no denouncement from Obama or any of the Dems. Even at this last clusterfuck in Ca Nancy Pelosi was stirring the shit priming the event for violence by Antifa. She smeared the free speech advocates and was silent about Antifa.

      It is pretty clear that the lunatic fringe lefties that have co-opted the Democratic party would love to come out of the closet and lead a glorious Marxist revolution. I wonder what the chances of a prominent Dem calling for such in the next six years is.

      1. Slammer

        If the FBI and HS knew this, then they just let Berkeley and Cville happen?

        1. Suthenboy

          Of course. And the latest fiasco in Ca and the one in Boston. Berkley has a commie mayor that admires Che and is a member of some group that actively supports Antifa. Additional silence from the MSM.

          *notice they are all in proggie strongholds. Don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen in Shreveport or Crockett or Jackson.

          1. Slammer

            The Resistance.

            Their version of the Rebel Alliance

          2. Suthenboy

            It does occur to me that it is possible that they could successfully spark some kind of uprising but it would be only in specific places. The notion of the country splitting could happen but it wouldn’t happen they way people have been imagining. The proggies could only be victorious in what are currently their strongholds, i.e. a tiny percentage of the country’s real estate.

    2. John Titor

      Between this and his views on climate change I don’t know how Murphy’s been able to survive in the Canadian media for so long. He’s just that good.

      1. But Enough About Me

        I suspect anyone who wants to fire him is terrified of the blistering verbal counterattack that would ensue. Rex could start or end wars with the power of his rhetoric. I’d be mortified to be the object of his ire.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        Rex Murphy is the best. A national treasure. Him I’d buy a drink.

        1. Festus

          Fuck that! Ten!

  9. Suthenboy

    Switch out the curry for liquid Zatarans and that would be pretty good Louisiana fare.

    And I did show up Uncivil, I am just having trouble keeping up today. I can only come here on breaks. I am in the garage making a huge amount of sawdust.

    1. Making anything else besides the dust? Or just machine-whittling?

      1. Suthenboy

        Mortar and tenon joints for the frame for a new work bench. This one, in fact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-EjnrZJrg

        If it turns out well I may try a fancier one.

        1. This guy has the power of jump cuts! I thought those were dangerous when working with power tools.

          1. Suthenboy

            I dont know what a jump cut is.

          2. Suthenboy

            Oh. I am slow today. And half drunk.

            Remember kids: when working with power tools, vehicles or guns always consume alcohol. For safety.

          3. It’s a video editing technique where the scene simply jumps forward in time without a transition. example – when he’s ripping the 2x4s, he jump cuts between each plank to skip showing swapping out the indivdiual 2x4s.

        2. Now I feel the need to make a butcher block cutting board… (It’s a project within my ability as a woodworker, and something I’d make use of) But I don’t know what type of wood should go into it.

          1. Suthenboy

            Something dense. Depends on how much you are willing to pay for the wood. Lumber store guy can tell you what is suitable. There are a number of woods that are poisonous, you dont want sepele or anything like that. If you are willing to shell out some bucks then ebony would be ideal. Hell, even walnut is expensive these days. Rock maple might be more affordable.

          2. While I’m asking, any recommendations on glue and finish or lack thereof?

          3. westernsloper

            You want a waterproof glue. Elmers makes a waterproof wood glue. For finish you want to use something non toxic that won’t go rancid. I use mineral oil on my wood counter top. I made the counter out of Hickory wood flooring that was on sale. I ran it through the planer to get the finish off and down to natural wood. I toe nailed and glued it to a plywood substrate. It was cheaper than a laminate counter top.

            Most cutting boards are maple.

          4. Suthenboy

            I use Titebond Ultimate Waterproof. It behaves like Elmers Wood Glue but takes a little longer to dry. Westernsloper is correct – Elmers makes one too. Both good stuff.

            Whatever you do dont use Gorilla Glue. It expands like crazy as it cures.

            For finishes I like a bit of Minwax stain then a coat or two of tung oil or linseed oil then maybe plain Minwax wax. I have been known to use plain tung or linseed oil with nothing else.

            There are a million finishes out there and most are acceptable if you aren’t putting it on something for outdoors. For outdoors laquer is about the only thing available. Those water seal type waxes/stains are useless.

            No, I am sorry, I forgot. You can char the outside of the wood lightly then scrub the carbon off with a steel brush and coat generously with tung oil. That makes a pretty good finish coat to protect wood outdoors.

          5. But Enough About Me

            Eastern sugar maple would be a good choice if you can find any. For a food-safe finish, I’ve always been a fan of pure (NOT “polymer-modified”) tung oil. Other people like nut or salad oils, but I’ve found they always start to smell rancid after awhile.

        3. Roger Wilco

          That was a fun video to watch coming from someone who has never done woodworking. Questions – why go through the effort of not using hardware (screws, other metal joining bits) for the frame? Also, is it possible to take up woodworking as a hobby without sustaining horrible gory injury from a power saw? Because I can’t stop thinking about that whenever I see one.

          1. Structural soundness.

            Just screwing the frame together results in a weaker end product.

          2. Roger Wilco

            ah, but screwing the top to the frame is okay? i guess it would just slide around

          3. Can you imaging trying to get that particular top onto a set of tenons from the frame? He jacked it into place as it was.

            But the sort of stresses you’re going to be putting on the frame versus the work surface means you can get away with just making sure it doesn’t slip.

          4. Suthenboy

            Yes Roger, it is possible. Treat it like a gun. Always pay close attention to what you are doing. When you get tired you get careless. Stop and go do something else. I have been a mild hobby woodworker for 40 years. I still have all of my fingers.

            I will tell my chainsaw story again. I am 18 and buying my first chainsaw. I ask the crusty old salesman what the most dangerous thing about saws are and how to avoid injury.

            “Don’t worry kid, you ain’t gonna get hurt. Only the pro’s get hurt. They think they know what they are doing and they ain’t scared of the saw no more.”

    2. Slammer

      Making hot dogs?

  10. Rufus the Monocled

    I don’t know about you guys but my orphans tend to lose limbs as a result of my ignoring labor laws. The trail of nubs all over the house was getting to be really annoying so I decided to make culinary use of them.

    Not only that, because of my immoral libertarian tendencies, I started a catering business and customers are none the wiser believing it’s all pork and chicken.

    They think ‘Orphan’s head soup’ is just a marketing gimmick and I play along with them when in fact it really is orphan’s head soup.

    Same with ‘Child trade labor stew’ which calls for orphan’s feet. Or the ever popular ‘Fun finger casserole’.

    Business is good. We’re getting rave reviews on Zagat, Yelp and TripAdvisor (for some reason).

    1. Roger Wilco

      “Here’s an orphan I prepared earlier. As you can see, she’s stopped squirming, and there is some lovely caramelization.”

      1. Festus

        I choked on my beer! You brought the joke to a satisfactory conclusion, Unit #1823. Mirth was most satiating. Now to see to the grublings.

  11. Roger Wilco

    I like this feature. I’m gathering that a Glibertarian tenet is self-reliance, and cooking for one’s self is a huge part of that. Also, I enjoy it, and frequently find my own food tastes better than what I get in restaurants. I am biased, though.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      The people around here like to Eat to be sure, handy tips and recipes abound, TOS was good as well, Until We all left.

    2. Akira

      frequently find my own food tastes better than what I get in restaurants.

      I think that when a person learns the basic principles of cooking, they can prepare meals that taste far better than most restaurants. Home cooking is just different; you can put much more time and effort into a meal that a restaurant can.

      1. And you can customise it to your own foibles.

      2. Rhywun

        I am still completely clueless about sauces. Other than that, yeah, I am close to being there.

        1. Suthenboy

          Sauces are easy once you get the hang of it. Start with broths and bases. There are a zillion youtube videos on making broths, bases and sauces. You can get bones from nearly any butcher.

          You jerks are making me hungry. I dont have time to cook so I am going to have to settle for a braunschweiger/cheddar sandwich.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            AAAnd Again, very Tasty

          2. I assume your wife made it for you?

        2. Playa Manhattan

          Go to Amazon. Anything by Minor (Nestle Professional) is restaurant quality and will last you a year.

          Their beef and chicken bases are both outstanding, as is the Au Jus prep.

          1. Roger Wilco

            Better than “Better than Bullion”?

          2. Playa Manhattan

            Orders of magnitude better. You can get salt, msg, and yeast extract cubes anywhere.

      3. Suthenboy

        Restaurants are terrible. Their profit margin is razor thin so they have to skimp as much as possible. What you get in a restaurant is not food, it’s service.

  12. John Titor

    And here we see UCS desperately trying to unmeme himself as the Fun Police.

    1. It’s just the gruel jokes got to me.

      1. Private Chipperbot

        Those puns were weak sauce.

        1. DOOMco

          this deserves more laughs.

  13. Slammer

    I just ate a Al-Basha falafel on a fresh baked bagutte.
    Paterson, NJ restaurant just opened a take out in Brooklyn.

  14. Yusef drives a Kia

    I’m back from shopping Hell, and got me a big fat Rump roast, taters and carrots and Scallions (oh my),
    Crock pot for 6 hours.
    /simple but meaty

    1. should turn out just fine.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        It’s just way too hot to cook a big complex meal in a kitchen, about 104

        1. Your AC still dead?

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Got 2 new AC systems, but still on a Minifridge til I get more cashflow, maybe another Week

    2. Playa Manhattan

      Chili powder? Tomatos? Soy sauce? Beef stock?

      1. westernsloper

        Speaking of chili powder. The other night I cut some sweet corn off the cob and fried it up in a pan with some butter and chili powder. It was a great topping on my smoked brisket tacos.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          That’s pretty close to elote, one of my favorite foods.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            Unlike elote, it doesn’t contain pus.

          2. westernsloper

            Do you do yours with a torch? I have tried corn on the gas grill, and to get a char you have to leave it on too long. Good sweet corn only needs cooking for no more than 2 mins. I guess I could try the charcoal grill and some hickory and get it over a flame. I also have a propane torch, or I could go all out and get out the oxy acetylene.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    Richard Florida haz a sad

    Despite the hype around “micro-apartments” and other innovations intended to cram more people into less room, many Americans still want space. They want to live in detached suburban homes, or in an apartment with enough square footage and access to outdoor space that it feels like one. Two-thirds of people born since 1997, including those who live in cities, want to live in single-family suburban homes, according to a 2015 survey, but the costs make this aspiration prohibitively expensive in most urban centers.

    Finally, the anti-urban mood in Washington and many state legislatures is making things worse for cities at the worst possible time. Badly needed investments in transit, bridges and tunnels, affordable housing and job upgrading and training are not being made. And pre-emption, the use of state law to nullify municipal authority, and President Trump’s threats to withhold federal subsidies from sanctuary cities are creating a sense of siege in many urban areas.

    For all of their many problems, our cities are our greatest economic drivers. Their continued revival is critical to the country’s ability to innovate and compete, create jobs and raise incomes and living standards. For all the nostalgia about the seamy old days of Times Square, we should not look forward to going back to the urban economic and social dysfunction of the 1970s and ’80s. Stopping or reversing the urban revival would not just be bad for cities. It would be a disaster for all of us.

    Cities are awesome, you dumb fucking hillbillies. Why you want yards and suchlike?

    1. He has correlation and causation backwards on that economic driver bit.

      Economic activity creates cities, not vice versa (See Mill Towns). An end to the economic activity destroys citites (see Detroit, Lowell)

      1. Akira

        You’ve gotta remember that we’re dealing with economic creationists here. They think that everything in the economy is the way it is because some powerful bureaucrat decreed that it shall be so.

    2. Sour Kraut

      Richard Florida has basically had to recant everything he has preached for 20 years. It is delicious.

      Shockingly, even the NYT comments (at least the ones I peeked at) contain a solid amount of common sense. No one is buying what this guy was selling anymore.

      1. But Enough About Me

        Richard Florida can burn in the same Hell as Faith Popcorn. Those two were constantly making my corporate/consulting career stupidly difficult back in the 90s. Fuck ’em up the ass in Hell with a flaming chainsaw.

        Bitter much? Me? Nahhhhh…

        1. Sour Kraut

          I had been blissfully unaware, but will perhaps give Faith Popcorn a brief hate-read. Masturbation may be involved.

  16. Rhywun

    I have to say anyone who can stomach shrimp is more adventurous than I.

    I just ate my usual weekend fried potatoes with onion and peppers, scrambled eggs and bacon. Fried the potatoes in the bacon fat – I didn’t like how it turned out. And the bacon was wrong too – the meat part was overdone and the fatty part was still rubbery. Not my best effort. I get better bacon results in the oven, I think.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Sounds pretty tasty to me, I don’t lay my bacon out flat, i just throw it in randomly and swirl it round, easiest way I have found

      1. Slammer

        Nice euphemism

    2. But Enough About Me

      Low and slow. It’s not just for pulled pork. Most people make the mistake of frying bacon using heat that’s too intense. “Sauté” works better than “fry.” ?

      1. Roger Wilco

        wow, great point. fat has a lot of water in it, and you’ve got to get rid of that to get any browining going. i guess thats why the oven method works so consistently

        1. But Enough About Me

          Just for reference, it takes me between 20 minutes and half an hour to cook one-half of a 500g package of bacon. Since it’s so slow, I tend to make a pound or two at a time, and just refrigerate anything we don’t eat right away. Why should I pay some food processor to pre-cook my bacon for me when I can do it myself, and always the way I like it?

        2. Yusef drives a Kia

          My method is good for picky eaters, some can be very crisp to the point of char, while other sections are cooked perfect and so on.
          Throw it on a serving plate and let em pick out which they prefer
          /Picky Family

      2. Chipping Pioneer

        ^This.

        I do my bacon on the grill. Requires a low temperature to avoid flare-ups. Takes about 1/2 hour, but it turns out fantastic. Uniformly browned and crisp, never burnt.

        Just have to remember to pull the grill a ways from the house the next time you light it onaccounta the ensuing grease fire.

        1. Chipping Pioneer

          Also, have to use the thick-cut variety. Butcher bacon will do, but I don’t find it salty enough. Packaged is better in this application.

    3. Nephilium

      Tonight I’ll be doing a garlic and rosemary pork roast with Hasselback potatoes. Something simple.

      1. But Enough About Me

        Tonight the spousal unit and I are going to our favourite French bistro to celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary (a few days early).

        She’s the best thing that ever happened to me.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Congrats! We have 29 years and it’s been worth it

        2. Nephilium

          Congratulations on making it to 25 years. Enjoy the night out.

        3. Slammer

          Congrats

        4. Slammer

          Cal 35
          North Carolina 30

          Next up, Florida versus Michigan

        5. But Enough About Me

          Thanks, folks. We actually met almost thirty years ago – November 18th is the 29th anniversary of our first date. Heh. She hates that I still remember that, and she has trouble remembering…

        6. DEG

          Congratulations!

    4. You don’t like shrimp???

      And people think I’m weird for not liking beer.

      1. Slammer

        I like squid, octopus, and sometimes shrimp. Clams and oyster almost never.
        I hate fish passionately. Fish is the worst

        1. Rhywun

          I like fish and hate all other seafood.

          PS. I used to hate fish.

        2. thrakkorzog

          So funny story time. About a decade back, my sister got married, and at the the rehearsal dinner my two nieces were there, and they just loved the calamari. They just ate all the calamari. Like “Screw the kid’s menu. Screw Hot dogs and Chicken strips, we want to exist on nothing but calamari.”

          So a decade later we’re having dinner at a nice Italian place and I order some calamari, and as teenage girls they got grossed out at the thought of eating squid. Even after I pointed out that they already back when they were little kids, they didn’t care.

      2. Nephilium

        It’s not just beer, it’s all carbonated beverages. That’s what makes it weird. It takes out many classic cocktails as well as the glory that is beer.

        I’ll also jump in on a dislike of shrimp, prawns, oysters, and mussels. Growing up in Ohio, you don’t get the best exposure to seafood.

        1. westernsloper

          You are missing out there with the mussels. Do a mussel boil with a good dark beer, white wine, lots of garlic and butter and serve with some good crusty bread. Food of the gods.

          1. Nephilium

            I’ve tried them a couple of times… I’m just not a fan of the taste or the texture of them. I’ll leave the mussels for those of you who like them.

        2. Hyperion

          How can anyone dislike oysters on the half shell? I don’t understand. Mussels are ok. Shrimp cooked right is great. A lot of people overcook it and turn it into rubber. It only takes like one minute to cook shrimp.

          1. thrakkorzog

            I can spit out my own phlegm, pour some tabasco on it, then swallow it back up without a middleman.

          2. Nephilium

            See… Susan here gets it.

  17. Playa Manhattan

    My DNS server is down and this is the only website I can get to.

    Can anyone tell me the score of the Cal game?

    1. Private Chipperbot

      35-30 Cal.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Are you telling me they won????

        1. Private Chipperbot

          Yes, sir.

  18. Sour Kraut

    File under “vague condescension”:

    Why does American need the Cajun Navy?

    In which the author seems to acknowledge that the Cajun Navy are heroes across the region, then turns up his nose at them anyway:

    At the time, the Baton Rouge floods seemed like they might trigger a greater awakening to the chaos of climate change. Now they seem a prelude to Harvey. In Texas, too, there has been devastation, and then heroism, and there will be, surely, a longer-gestating devastation to come. There is a cyclic pattern to the erosion of faith in government, in which politics saps the state’s capacity to protect people, and so people put their trust in other institutions (churches; self-organizing volunteer navies), and are more inclined to support anti-government politics. The stories of the storm and the navies exist on a libertarian skeleton. Through them, a particular idea of how society might be organized is coming into view.

    I don’t know what this paragraph means but I suspect a good liberal is supposed to have a mild snicker at the expense of these rednecks, then turn the page.

    1. Hyperion

      We can’t just be letting anyone save people. They don’t have the proper government training and even worse, no licenses to practice saving people. Who knows, they may have even given the person they saved from drowning, some food with too much sodium or even sugary drinks. These rogue rescuers must be stopped. We need a war on people saving people.

    2. westernsloper

      Along the Gulf Coast, where hurricanes happen every year

      Or ya know, sometimes not, but every year sounds better.

      in which politics saps the state’s capacity to protect people,

      Are you sure it is politics that does that, or maybe just the state can’t protect people from nature?

      I can’t tell if that last paragraph is him being honest or some prog snark.

      1. Roger Wilco

        Either hurricanes happen each year, or they are happening at an increasing rate. Which is it?

        1. Hyperion

          Both, you denier.

    3. Gilmore

      the piece is supposed to be a ‘chinstroker’, which is a category which covers a large share of what liberal mags like Harpers or the New Yorker do. its what they do when there are facts that are inconvenient and troublesome. The implication is “it should not be this way”, but that the reasons why are complex and we can’t or shouldn’t really try and deconstruct why… rather, we should reaffirm our belief that “this is a sign that government is not doing all it should” and that things would surely be better if there were more bureaucratic controls and more laws barring individual citizens from interfering with the health of the state bureaucracy.

      the piece more or less says as much explicitly – that the “downside” of all this citizen action is that it hurts the perception of Good Govt, which produces a vicious cycle whereby people then demand lower taxes, which prevents govt from doing a good job, which then prompts more citizen contempt and independent action, which hurts the perception of good govt, etc.

    4. Suthenboy

      I have seen this before. It is a complete denial of reality. The reality is that government fails miserably at helping people when the shit hits the fan. They usually make things markedly worse.

      Fuck these government worshippers.

    5. Slammer

      I wonder who donated more to relief efforts in Houston….The New Yorker, or WalMart?

      1. Roger Wilco

        WalMart’s donations are clearly a marketing campaign for them to get more sales and increase their profit, so all their efforts are null and void.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          I realize this is snark but I would guess that massive logstics network they are taking advantage of has a way to track every item they donate towards a write off.

          1. Roger Wilco

            Sure, but a write-off is another word of reducing taxable revenue. In other words, Wal-Mart is making less money by giving things away for relief. If they kept that inventory and sold it elsewhere, they would get more net revenue, and pay more tax, but I don’t think any company is going to actively want to increase costs and make less money just so they don’t have to pay as much tax.

            The point of my snark was that the suffering after disasters doesn’t have to be necessarily transferred to other entities – the other entities can use it as a way to benefit themselves and the relief effort, and bank cash to be able to do it again when the next disaster occurs. This is a difficult concept when you think of everything as a zero-sum game.

          2. thrakkorzog

            Freaking Waffle House has better disaster response team than FEMA. So yeah, I prefer to trust the private sector when shit hits the fan.

      2. Hyperion

        Clinton foundation. Didn’t you see all that footage of Hillary and Chelsea swimming around in the flood waters, pulling people out and then writing them huge checks?

    6. Rhywun

      I knew that was from an elitist NYC media outlet before hovering over the link. It has exactly the expected amounts of ignornace and smug, all on a base of state-worship.

  19. My Brain: “This needs some salt”

    *punches sea salt into food*

    *sees salt stuck to fingers*

    *licks fingers*

    My Brain: “That might not have been too bright.”

    My Tongue: “AARGH! What did you just do!?”

    1. That was supposed to be “pinches salt”, but the image of punching salt into food is funny now.

      1. Gilmore

        That was supposed to be “pinches salt”,

        You cook like them goombahs in brooklyn?

  20. westernsloper

    Nice effort Uncivil. I have never made a fish stew. I will give it a try once it cools off a bit. I read the whole thing but seemed to have missed the step where you removed all the flavor. How is that done again?

    1. Magic!

      Bacon can explain.

    2. Playa Manhattan

      He strains it all out and then adds a gallon of distilled water and 2 cans of Ensure.

  21. Gustave Lytton

    Just shared this with my wife- she’s likes it too. Might end up making this next weekend.

  22. Hyperion

    I think I’m sort of thread impaired today, but not yet impaired otherwise. My booze for the long weekend just arrived. Anyway, I posted this link in the morning links but didn’t notice the thread was already dead.

    Public Union of Commie Teachers

    This is what you’re sending your kids to public school to learn. Just say no to pubic school.

    1. westernsloper

      Did you tip STEVE better this time?

      1. Hyperion

        STEVE said he’s saving the tip for you.

    2. Slammer

      Wait. Why the fuck is there a NAMBLA connection? Wut?

      1. Hyperion

        Men who love boys are Marxists? And here I thought they were Muslims.

      2. Rhywun

        There is some decades-old connection of one person that I read about in some other article they linked last week. Like I said below, it’s really reaching. Isn’t there enough more-relevant awfulness to report on?

        1. Hyperion

          Nazis were already linked to Trump, so they had to go from some pedos.

    3. Rhywun

      I still think hyping some link to NAMBLA is grasping, but the rest of that sounds appalling.

      When the Berkeley school district suspended Felarca for her violent activism in 2016 (for which she was charged with inciting a riot), the local teacher’s union sued the school on Felarca’s behalf.

      Fuck.

      1. Hyperion

        Did you see the other case where some teachers fired for the same behavior, sued and actually got their jobs back and $300k to boot? It’s Commiefornia, where the Marxists are the good guys.

    4. westernsloper

      At least they are not hiding the fact they are marxist’s now. I guess that is one positive. The parents of the kids in the schools those teachers are teaching at should be the ones rioting.

    5. Gilmore

      Sargon’s video on BAMN is worth watching. he was on this story months ago. Falacca whatshername is a hoot. lots of great footy.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQwfTPqn5kc

      the same characters keep reappearing in all the batshitness in Berkeley. including the mayor. they’re a cult.

      1. Hyperion

        Trump should pull all federal funding from Berkeley for starters.

      2. westernsloper

        I have only made it part way into that and holy shit that Fellarca chic is mental. Asian chic with owl glasses is nuts. It looks like violent racists against perceived racists. Have any actual Nazis ever staged a protest at Berkeley?

        1. westernsloper

          Ok, I looked up the Traditional Workers Party that had the Sacramento rally and ya, they look like white nationalists. Pretty close to Nazis.

          1. Gilmore

            yes, all the crazies in America are drawn to berkeley like moths to a flame

            if you recall, back at TOS robby covered some of the first LARPing riots @ Berkeley. the TWP and the Antifa went full- brick-bats on each other. This was… before the election? i think. they were warming up for full-armored culturewar street battles over a year ago.

          2. westernsloper

            I don’t remember ever hearing about the TWP. I do remember Milo being shut down. Milo, who that crazy chic calls a fascist white supremacist as well. Milo is a lot of things but white supremacist is not one of them. BAMN is scary. It is groups like that that start putting bombs in places and blowing people up. They are acting out of some serious delusion and blankly state anything goes.

          3. Slammer

            That Sargon piece shows them as a cult, and the Mayor of Berkeley in their camp. Wouldnt be the first time a Bay Area politician supported a cult leader…Jim Jones

          4. westernsloper

            Ya, I watched it. That is some kind of freaky stuff there if what the ex member claims is true. If that Felarca chic is trying to hold teenage kids against their will she needs to be locked up and in no way teaching or even being allowed around children. That is deranged psychopath behavior there. Jim Jones territory for sure.

  23. mexican sharpshooter

    I just want to make sure I am not missing anything here. UCS hates–everything, but he likes soup?

    1. Hyperion

      He just hates fish.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Got it.

      2. Sour Kraut

        Which is why he puts it in his soup?

        1. Hyperion

          After he kills them. Then makes soup out of them. There’s lots of hate in that.

          1. Roger Wilco

            Hate Soup is delicious

          2. Festus

            Just don’t overdo the Stomach Curdling Rage or Dad might have a stroke and we all know what a pain in the gizzard that turns out to be…

  24. Slammer

    Florida now has a female alligator mascot?
    That’s so stupid

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      They’ve had it since the mid-1980s.

      1. Slammer

        Really? Ive never seen it until today…creepy

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          1984 per wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_and_Alberta_Gator

          (been to a couple of games at The Swamp. Both mascots look creepier in real life)

    2. thrakkorzog

      Big Lipped Alligator Moment.

  25. Juvenile Bluster

    hahahahahahaha fuck the Gators

  26. The Late P Brooks

    I wonder who donated more to relief efforts in Houston….The New Yorker, or WalMart?

    There was a story a loooong time ago, in the WSJ (I think) about Waffle House’s spectacularly successful and efficient response to natural disasters.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      It’s apparently an actual metric used by FEMA to consider the scale of a disaster.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Index

      1. Roger Wilco

        The Waffle House Index is more of a canary in a coal mine for FEMA, and works for hurricanes and other storms because they’re more Waffle Houses in the southeast. I don’t think when the next big earthquake hits northern California and wipes out San Francisco they’ll be using the Waffle House Index. Is there a Ramen Restaurant Index?

      2. Nephilium

        I sent that article to the DR guy for the company I currently work for. He was unaware that the Waffle House had such a robust DR plan in place.

  27. The Zenome Project

    Nancy Pelosi is an evil, radical politician, but I must admit that I understand why she’s the Minority Leader: Her intelligence runs circles around her party members and the Establishment Ryan/McCain Republicans.

    On Trump’s response to Hurricane Harvey: Pelosi said it’s too early to judge his response to the catastrophe in Texas. “We haven’t seen it. He’s been gracious, he went to Corpus Christi, which is sort of appropriate for him to do, because in the heart of the storm. It would be a challenge to accommodate a president.

    “What I’m concerned about is the president’s cut 11 percent of the (Federal Emergency Management Agency) budget in his budget (proposal). You can’t do that.”

    The “test” for Trump, she said, will be whether he and Congress can agree to immediate funding for disaster relief, followed by a more robust aid package, similar to what happened after Hurricane Sandy in 2012.

    “But these people are not going to be made whole. It’s very hard. But you have to give them hope that it’s going to get better — soon.”

    On “antifa” activists’ violent behavior: Pelosi distanced the Democratic Party from the activists who consider themselves anti-fascists. “I think if there’s some people who are acting in a violent way, that they should be prosecuted,” she said. “I don’t care who they are, where they are, whatever organization they belong to. You’re talking (about) some individuals. You’re not talking about the far left of the Democratic Party — they’re not even Democrats. A lot of them are socialist or anarchist or whatever.

    “Violence by anybody is to be rejected and dealt with, but that’s not who we are.”

    On Trump’s presidency so far: “Nothing is happening on the part of the president,” she said. “He hasn’t put forth the infrastructure proposal, he hasn’t repealed the Affordable Care Act, he hasn’t done a tax bill.”

    [This is the interesting part] But, she suggested, Democrats shouldn’t fall into the political trap of constantly criticizing Trump. “(The voters) don’t want to hear us criticizing the president,” she said. “This was a choice; they made a decision. And to criticize the president personally is to disrespect their judgment. So I say to my members, ‘This is about what we’re going to do.’ ”

    1. Mr Lizard

      It is rare event indeed to shock a reptilian overlord… Or the machines have gotten to this mammals

    2. thrakkorzog

      When her opponents to take the top spot include intellectual heavy weights like Maxine Waters and Hank Johnson, then she gets to be the one-eyed non-gendered ruler in the land of the blind.

  28. Yusef drives a Kia

    This guy does some good Piano work, TW, Pink Floyd cover
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkWfSo2WFGE

  29. Yusef drives a Kia

    Something completely different,
    Strobe
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKi9Z-f6qX4

  30. Festus

    I’m in the process of building a hearty beef stew. The key to a hard meat stew is to brown the beef first and then when it is nearl burnt add your onion, celery and mushrooms with a generous helping of black pepper and seasoned salt, topped off with a copious amount of Lea and Perrin’s. Stir it up, lower the temp to barely a flicker, clamp the lid down tight and then let it simmer. If you think that it has simmered long enough you are a wrong-thinker. After a reasonable amount of time turn the heat back up, add water and your favorite beef-flavored cheat bring it to boil and then start adding the veggies in order of density (Carrots and turnips first, potatoes next, fresh green beans etc.). Fun fact – if you add dumplings you don’t need a thickening agent!

  31. SP

    Wow, thanks for the great post, Uncivil. Photos, humor, and everything!

    (I have it on good authority that men who can cook never need to learn how to dance, unless they so desire.)

    1. Festus

      “Can’t cook , can’t dance but he drives a mean Trans-Am!”

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Joe Biden?

  32. bacon-magic

    3 rashers of bacon reporting for duty sir!