Monday Afternoon Links

Its a rare day when I’m don’t miss living in Houston at least a little bit. Today is one of them. If Noah had come from Texas, a hell of a lot more people than just his family would have survived. The good news is, very few lives are lost. The bad news is, probably a million people will be economically destroyed. I’ll start looking into emerging voluntarism opportunities to help or fund. Maybe at the end of the week, when we (hopefully) know what it all is going to look like.

UPDATE: Texas Monthly has a starter list here. I did a preliminary vetting of the charity Global Giving mentioned and it appears to be quite reputable.

Onto the links!

Photo Credit: Banjos. Taken from their back window

Good news, everyone, I’m going to live forever! Actually, I’m probably down to 2-3 from 6+. So maybe I need to raise my game.

Expect gas prices to go up at least 10% until Houston gets back to work. Maybe, just maybe, enviroweenies, we should move some of our eggs out of that basket.

Mr. Lizard’s Texas cousin seeking shelter

Headlines that surprise no one: California considers taxing _____ .

Uber picks a Persian CEO. No racist jokes about knowing the taxi industry!

More evidence that when the robot uprising occurs, it’ll be because some disaffected 16-year old with no friends decides to hack all robots to kill all humans.

A Houston boy covering an appropriate song. Serious question, how do I get the job as the background trombone player?

Comments

602 responses to “Monday Afternoon Links”

  1. SugarFree

    Uber picks a Persian CEO.

    His background is in the cologne industry.

    1. Just Say’n

      That’s offensive to Turkish people

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Which manages to offend everyone within a given distance?

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Paco Iran?

    3. Hyperion

      Well that’s exotic. They are now officially multee culturals.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        I believe it was you that said to mention the inclusiveness BS to the recruiter…

        It didn’t take long for me to find it.

        1. Hyperion

          I was actually being serious. In my last interview the HR lady was about to doze off when I said ‘I’ve worked with diverse groups … something something’ and that grabbed her attention. I don’t think she heard a damn other word that I said until she heard the word ‘diverse’ and then she perked right up. I actually was trying to say that I had worked with very diverse groups of clients with different needs and knew how to handle the different situations. But when I noted she wanted some bullshit, I switched gears and let her have it.

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            This is what a Penthouse Letter written by an Everyday Feminism author looks like.

          2. Rasilio

            And when everyday feminism says diverse groups they mean both women and men with vaginas plus the occasional gay male

          3. peachy rex

            But only if he’s not white.

          4. mexican sharpshooter

            But when I noted she wanted some bullshit, I switched gears and let her have it.

            I just got off the phone with them. She didn’t seem to be wanting it, oddly enough. Kept asking me things about my current role and what my supervisor would say to me.

          5. Hyperion

            Different orgs, different environment. I take it wasn’t an uber proggy stronghold.

          6. mexican sharpshooter

            Pharmacy wholesale. Maybe, maybe not.

          7. Hyperion

            Yeah, hard to tell. Maybe depending on where you are in the country also.

    4. westernsloper

      So he has experience making dash mounted car fresheners for taxis?

  2. Playa Manhattan

    Will Uber have purple drapes?

    1. Count Potato

      I have no idea idea. But I’m looking forward to the flying carpets.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        They’re gonna have the best harems!

        1. Hyperion

          Harems and hookah pipes full of hashish. I hope the carpet pillows are comfy.

    2. DOOMco

      All ubers are now white BMW’s.

  3. Count Potato

    “There are other ways to tackle the problem that don’t focus on the machines, though: reducing tax on human labor”

    I’ll be here all week!

    1. grrizzly

      Must be a joke.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Unfortunately not

      2. ChipsnSalsa

        One can only hope.

      3. Rufus the Monocled

        They’re (progressive-socialsits) going to co-opt the word ‘libertarian’ like they did ‘liberal’.

        Destruction is all they know.

        There’s no damn such thing as ‘libertarian-socialists’. One demands dependence on the government and the other doesn’t; one suppress liberty of the individual the other doesn’t.

        Simple calculus.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          socialists.

        2. Just Say’n

          These guys make the Georgists look good

        3. Zunalter

          TBF, the LP proper has been doing a decent job at destruction lately themselves.

        4. hayeksplosives

          Hey, that’s OUR word! Way to appropriate our culture, statist nitwits.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Man I hate Chomsky

    3. DOOMco

      This was confusing.
      Eric July’s twitters can be fun.

      1. SugarFree

        They have a website: http://dankertarians.com/

        1. Vhyrus

          See, I would love for this site to become the counterpoint to that site.

        2. Hyperion

          Here’s their page on Economic issues:

          ECONOMICS
          HOMEECONOMICS
          NOTHING FOUND

          It seems we can’t find what you’re looking for. Perhaps searching can help.

          LOL

        3. They have a website. We have guns. I’d bet on us.

      2. Count Potato

        Is it parody or actually retarded?

        1. Just Say’n

          They are for real and they are big fans of Nick Sarwark, which is probably the best case for him leaving his position in disgrace. If the chairman of a third party has all this time to attack activists in his movement via Twitter, then he is failing miserably at his job

          1. Hyperion

            These people are worse than the actual socialists.

      3. DOOMco

        the biggest thing i can get out of them is they don’t believe in private property?
        which sort of makes “what i do on my own land” impossible.

        1. Vhyrus

          That’s straight up marxism.

        2. kbolino

          It generally works like this. They draw this arbitrary line in the sand between “personal” property which you get to keep and “private” property which has to be taken from you. The former generally includes the things that they possess, while the latter generally includes the things that they don’t possess. It’s all very logically consistent and totally not self-serving.

          1. J. Frank Parnell

            Right, “possessions” vs. “property”.

            Or as George Carlin said, everyone else’s stuff is shit, but my shit is stuff.

    4. Playa Manhattan

      I’m highly suspicious of the fact that the name is blurred out.

    5. Brett L

      I suppose there’s a sort of libertarian case for allowing communitarian socialist communes to exist for as long as they are able….

      1. SugarFree

        There’s a strong libertarian case for it. Let have whatever sort of internal political nonsense they want as long as they can’t force anyone to join or fund them.

        1. Just Say’n

          Socialists are well known for leaving people alone and not forcing their ideas on people

        2. Chipwooder

          Sure. If they wanted to play Dennis the Peasant in the woods, I couldn’t care less.

          Absolutely no one believes that any socialists, even those who style themselves “libertarian socialists”, would ever content themselves with that, of course.

        3. DOOMco

          i got through to a socialist by explaining that.
          “in my perfect country, you can still exist. in yours, I can’t.”

        4. You know that never happens when clenched fists are raised and black + red flags are raised.

        5. westernsloper

          That is called hippies from the sixties and or communal classical liberal thought. I don’t think that exists these days.

      2. kbolino

        There’s a “libertarian case” for just about any kind of voluntary arrangement. The problem is these people don’t want it to be voluntary.

    6. Vhyrus

      Man the woodchippers boys… its going to be a long night.

    7. Chipwooder

      Sarwark must be overjoyed.

      1. SugarFree

        They stole liberal; we returned the favor.

        1. John Titor

          It was worth it just to hear Am Soc whine about how we stole their word.

          1. SugarFree

            “They ruined all our best names like Bruce, and Lance, and Julian. Those were the toughest names we had!”

        2. Hyperion

          No shit, they totally trashed the term liberal and now they’re after libertarian as well. I can’t wait until people start referring to the left as libertarians. Oh joy.

          1. Zunalter

            Since the leading “libertarian” publication is filled with leftist TDS-infected brown-panters, it is only a matter of time.

      2. Just Say’n

        True, but in EUROPE. The Right in Europe doesn’t bare any resemblance to the Right in America. The same use to be said for the American Left, too, but socialism has grown pretty strong in the US. Proudhen was a ‘libertarian socialist’ (and he’s not too bad) and he is most famous for stating “property is theft”.

        1. John Titor

          Emma Goldman, libertarian socialist radical who spent most of her time in the United States.

          1. Just Say’n

            Wasn’t she born in Germany and died in Russia?

          2. John Titor

            She immigrated when she was a teenager.

          3. Just Say’n

            Fine. Then let the commies keep the term ‘libertarian’ (especially since some terrible characters refer to themselves as that) and people who believe in individual rights and free markets can go back to calling themselves ‘individualists’, like Henry Hazlett wanted it to be

        2. SugarFree

          Once again, I suggest that if you ever hear someone say they don’t believe in private property, steal their purse/wallet/backpack.

          1. grrizzly

            There’s a difference between private property and individual property. You’re so ignorant, SugarFree.

          2. KSuellington

            “But that’s totally different man! That’s personal property!!”

            *idiocy I have heard from socialists more than once*

          3. Zunalter

            then pitch a tent in their yard and take a dump in their pool.

          4. Bobarian LMD

            “See, private property is something I don’t currently own and personal property is something that I do…”

            /aka envy.

          5. My house is about as personal as it gets. So’s my paycheck.

    8. Waterfall Insurance

      Like Reform party circa 2000. If you build it, they will come to usurp your ballot access.

    9. Hyperion

      I don’t think they know what libertarian means. Or maybe that was just a jab at TOS.

    10. Gilmore

      Socialists can have the term “Libertarian” as soon as they return “Liberal”….and have it professionally cleaned first.

      1. westernsloper

        + 1 full drive through wash from top of the list and a full detail with tire treatment.

  4. Florida Man

    Good news, everyone, I’m going to live forever! Actually, I’m probably down to 2-3 from 6+. So maybe I need to raise my game.

    No wonder I look so young and handsome…stop laughing!

    1. Drake

      With my heart that amped up from the caffeine, I can’t die even if I’m supposed to.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Yeah, it only lowers the risk of death that day.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          That’s why I drink 8 cups a day, I’ll worry about dying Tomorrow, Tomorrow

      2. Zunalter

        never, ever, crash.

        1. DOOMco

          good rule for life.

  5. Playa Manhattan

    Amazon Cuts Whole Foods Prices as Much as 43% on First Day

    Thus confirming my suspicions that most of the terms that they use (i.e. Whole Trade and Animal Welfare) are simply made up.

    1. Brett L

      I’m seriously thinking about driving up to the nearish-by one and seeing if my Amazon Prime discount applies to their meat section.

      1. The nearest one to me is over an hour away.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        Aside from a few very specific cuts, I’ve found that their meat isn’t very good. Most of it is ungraded, and they just upcharge for “animal welfare”.

        Except for the long bone chuck short ribs. Those are delicious. Oh, and the chicken feet and necks; you can make extremely rich stock for only a couple of bucks.

        1. Brawndo

          If it’s from outside the US, I don’t believe it can be graded. I work for Wegmans in their meat department and we sell organic grass fed beef from Uruguay that is ungraded. Grass fed is leaner and a different flavor than the homegrown, corn finished cows we’re used to. I’m not a fan, but if you’re worried about cholesterol and still want a steak I guess it’s not a bad idea.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            If it’s from outside the US, don’t they have to say so?

            I thought one of their big things was selling “local”.

          2. Rasilio

            Grass fed beef tastes WAY better than grain fed in my experience.

            That said I know the quality of the grass has a significant impact on the quality of the milk (which is why multiple super premium Ice Cream companies are either based or manufactured in Vermont) so I suspect that where the cows are fed the grass may impact the taste of the meat.

          3. mexican sharpshooter

            Grass-fed tastes better for me as well, it’s just not to an extent that it justifies the price.

          4. Tundra

            Grass fed and truly dry aged is amazing. But yes, crazy expensive.

          5. Playa Manhattan

            I bought a pair of Costco’s finest grass fed. It was about double the regular price, and it was gross.

          6. Lachowsky

            I bought an angus steer calf last december. He currently resides in my freezer. I let him eat hay all winter and grass in the spring. When he was about 700 lbs, I put him in my lot and bought 1500 lbs of grain feed. He ate nothing but grain until it was gone and then I had him slaughtered.

            If you can get a butcher who is good at what he is doing, that’s the best beef you can find. Mine turned out outstanding.

          7. Playa Manhattan

            Grain finished. MMMmmmm

          8. RAHeinlein

            +1 – anyone who thinks grassfed is “better” doesn’t purchase high-quality corn-fed.

          9. Playa Manhattan

            I know. I was trying to be polite.

        2. Rasilio

          Don’t even buy meat from them, it is simply too expensive.

          I do however buy from their Fish department as it is probably the only grocery chain where you can reasonably trust that your fish is both fresh and actually the species they claim it is.

          Buying sub par meat just results in a bland piece of meat, buying sub par fish is a good recipe for spending a week in the bathroom.

        3. Tulip

          I can get chicken feet for less at H-Mart than Whole foods

          1. Playa Manhattan

            No H-Mart here. I would if I could.

            If I’m making stock, I don’t care if it’s roadkill. It’s all the same in the end.

          2. Hyperion

            G’damnit, those chingalings should be banned from selling those nasty chicken feet. Those barbarians will eat anything. My wife snuck some of them in our shopping cart again. We need common sense chingaling and wife control.

          3. Tulip

            They also have the big tanks, where you point to a fish and say “that one”. There is also a Grande Market, which started as a Korean grocer and is now the immigrant market. Sign a in four languages and they have great produce because it turns over so fast.

          4. Hyperion

            We actually have competition here. Little Korea is not far away. Wifey doesn’t like H-Mart, but they have 2 competitors. One of them actually were selling snakehead caught in the gunpowder river last week.

    2. Florida Man

      I like prices high to keep the poors out. Now I’ll have to look at them like real people.
      /1 percent problems

    3. Drake

      Did they cut the prices on the lunch buffet? Love the food but over my budget for regular visits.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        The hot bar is $2 off per pound on Wednesdays here.

        I stopped going after they got rid of the Korean food. Now they have shitty Indian and Mexican instead.

        They opened a Kogi next to the hot bar, which is even better, but I can’t have it more that once every other week because it’s fat people food.

        1. Drake

          I like their Indian food. Probably don’t need that many carbs regularly.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Pro tip:
            Buy stuff from the vegan hot bar and add ground beef.

        2. J. Frank Parnell

          Nice, I used to work across the street from one of the regular Kogi truck stops, so I had their short rib tacos for lunch once a week for at least a year.

      2. DOOMco

        I went there for a bunch of bacon with coworkers back in the locksmith shop.
        they lost money on us.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Their Black Forest bacon is probably the best I’ve ever had.

          It’s not a great deal, though.

          1. KSuellington

            The Farmers Applewood that they sell at Costco is some amazing stuff, possibly among the best I’ve had, and fairly priced.

    4. Hyperion

      Well, now the capitalists have ruined Whole Foods. Not sure now where the local hipster douches can drive to in their Prius to feel all pious and holier than thou. I hope Bezos puts baby seal meat and GMO veggies on sale.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        As long as it’s fair trade seal meat & organic GMO veggies.

    5. Gilmore

      I don’t know if that’s very smart. Its just telling long-term customers, “we’ve been ripping you off for years”, and also undermining the perception of quality of everything not being discounted as heavily.

      1. grrizzly

        Exactly. I would have felt cheated had I been their regular customer. On the other hand, Amazon+WF probably wants to attract other customers who were put off by the high prices but liked something about the brand. I’ve been living close to various Whole Foods for a long time, the stores have their strengths, for example, wine selection is good in their largest Boston store. But other stuff wasn’t competitive.

        1. Gilmore

          On the other hand, Amazon+WF probably wants to attract other customers who were put off by the high prices

          Yeah, a longish time ago i used to do research on this whole thing; i.e. “who are the current and potential customers of X” And Whole Foods was a client.

          The thing is, i think they had already pretty much maxxed out their potential customer base. The ones who don’t shop there don’t avoid it just because they can’t *afford* it; its just not their style. And the ones who can’t afford it don’t necessarily get that much of a ego-boost from pre-chopped salad type items anyway. Basically, the existing customers you lose by going more-downmarket – if that’s the net effect – would exceed those you’d gain from mere reduction in price.

          I’d suspect their argument for the move isn’t necessarily about gaining new customers, but increasing the velocity of goods sold, reducing shelf time, maybe increasing package sizes and growing the total checkout $ #. Its a very-amazon sort of strategy; just pump turnover/revenue over all else, and hope SGA type expenses decline as a share of sales.

    6. The Last American Hero

      They have a cheese steward. All other sins are forgiven, or at least forgotten.

      1. Zunalter

        I know, the first time I went to a Whole Foods, I tried some of the craziest cheeses ever, it was amazing. BTW, sheeps milk way to acrid imo to make good cheese.

        1. Brett L

          Manchego is sheep cheese, so you’re clearly crazy.

  6. Count Potato

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4830356/Kim-Kardashian-daughter-North-Interview.html

    In other news, Kanye West was assassinated while riding in a motorcade in Dallas. Unfortunately, I just made that up.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Nice try. Any attempts to pass her off as classy are refuted by this thing called the internet.

      1. Drake

        I was scrolling down to see if she was took a money shot in Jackie-O customer.

        1. SugarFree

          “Do you swallow? Brains, I mean.”

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Given that Kanye is probably high, drunk, and banging 18 year old virgins, I can see the analogy.

  7. Hyperion

    16th!

    1. Zunalter

      You’re half right.

      1. Hyperion

        Why are you othering the sub commenters?

  8. Scruffy Nerfherder

    How do you get a bad obit in Hollywood? Be a conservative.

    https://variety.com/2017/film/people-news/jerry-lewis-dies-dead-nutty-professor-1202533899/

    But Lewis’ brand of humor did not always wear well as times and attitudes changed. Over the last 10 years of his life, his reputation soured slightly as he was forced to apologize for making a gay slur on camera during the 2007 telethon, continued to make racist and misogynistic jokes, and didn’t hesitate to share his right-wing political views.

    1. The Other Kevin

      Jerry Lewis: Jewish Nazi. Sad.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The man raised billions for charity and they want to tear him down in an obit. Assholes, all of them.

        1. Hyperion

          None of the counts, he didn’t prog hard enough. He was unpure so he had to be purged.

        2. Chipwooder

          Goes back to the “feelz over actions” point I made in the earlier thread. To a lot of people, the good things a person does that have a tangible benefit to someone are entirely trumped by wrongthink. Rescue flood victims? Who cares – HE’S FLYING A CONFEDERATE FLAG1!!1! Raise billions of dollars for sick children? Who cares – HE TOLD RACIST JOKES!

  9. Scruffy Nerfherder

    One more nail in the British coffin.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/christian-girl-5-sent-to-muslim-foster-parents-speak-english-arabic-tower-hamlets-london-a7916071.html

    A five-year-old English-speaking girl was reportedly forced to live in Muslim foster homes where her carers wore the niqab and allegedly told her to learn Arabic.

    The child was looked after by two different Muslim households in the last six months after being placed into foster care in Tower Hamlets, east London, The Times reported.

    A social services supervisor described the girl as crying and begging not to be sent back to the foster carer’s home because “they don’t speak English,” according to confidential local authority reports seen by the newspaper.

    1. Hyperion

      They have to learn kids to not be Nazis. Otherwise they’ll turn into the United States, and what is more scarier than that?

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Not much different than our Indian Child Welfare Act that demands that any indian kid be placed with other indian family members no matter how fucked up they are.

      Even Bill Gates couldn’t adopt an Ojibwe kid if the kid had relatives (or even other tribal members) who said they would take care of the kid. According to the pale faces, the kid would be better off living with other dirt poor indians than Bill Gates.

      1. Hyperion

        At least the poor kids won’t be getting any toxic whiteness on them, right?

        1. Vhyrus

          Toxic whiteness is apparently the slang term for nice clothes.

      2. kbolino

        Was there an interregnum between that law and the law that “encouraged” Indian kids to be taken away from Indian families? Man, it’s like we just oscillate between one variety of government control and another.

        1. Hyperion

          Cultural appropriation, dude. You gotta keep up. You can’t just go appropriating kids, I mean unless your libertarian and need some more orphans. Libertarian do not discriminate, we take all colors and races of orphans!

        2. Pope Jimbo

          I am not sure exactly about the history, but yes, this law was in response to the practice of taking indian kids and placing them with crackers in the old days.

          Any attempt to change the current law will have AIM (assholes in moccasins) shouting that you want to go back to the bad old days.

          1. Bob

            Do we know if that actually happened or was it like all the black people getting locked up for being black nowadays that is used to justify stupid laws.

            It seems fairly obvious that a population known for being drunk, drugged, jobless, and in poverty would lose their children more, and a population who isn’t in poverty would receive them more and in such a likely scenario screeching racism is likely. Even if it’s bullshit.

          2. kbolino

            Actually, I was referring to Indian boarding schools which children were sent to en masse without any consideration of their actual family situations. Although, it seems that practice had mostly ended by the 1930s.

          3. kbolino

            … whereas, the Indian Child Welfare Act was passed in the 1970s.

      3. The Last American Hero

        Wanna bet? Bill makes a couple phone calls to Murray and Cantwell, writes a $50k grant to the Casinoguamish tribe, and it’s a done deal.

  10. Kenya’s new plastic bag law is so outrageous that even some progs are balking

    Beginning today, if you’re carrying your groceries in a plastic bag or put out your trash in a disposable one, you could be fined up to $38,000 or be sent to jail for up to four years.

    “It is a toxin that we must get rid of,” Judi Wakhungu, the country’s Cabinet secretary for the environment, told reporters. “It’s affecting our water. It’s affecting our livestock and, even worse, we are ingesting this as human beings.”

    1. Hyperion

      Sounds very prog like to me.

    2. Drake

      That picture of the village literally looks like our town dump.

      1. Hyperion

        Looks like progtopia to me. We could have that if we’d only put all our trust in the left. I mean, look around there, no Nazis in sight!

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Africa prog harding should be the least of their concerns.

    4. kbolino

      Nothing helps boost the rule of law like absurd laws with draconian punishments.

    5. Playa Manhattan

      Garbage goes in the garbage can, people. I can’t stress that enough.

      *takes notes*

    6. Stinky Wizzleteats

      38K Kenyan dollars? So about a buck fifty then.

      1. kbolino

        I assume it’s been converted into USD since Kenyans use “shillings” (divided into cents) not “dollars”. If it was actually 38,000 Kenyan shillings then it would be equivalent to about $380 US.

    7. Derpetologist

      There is a slum in Nairobi called Kibera. Its nickname is Flying Toilets because the residents shit in plastic bags and throw them out the window because there is no sewage system.

      Nairobi means “cool place” in the Maasai language. When they were building the railroad from Mombasa to Lake Victoria, they built a camp there because it was high ground and so was pleasantly cool and free of mosquitoes.

      1. Derpetologist

        oopsy- that was mentioned in the article

        that’s what I get for not reading first.

      2. Bob

        Having no sewage system doesn’t justify shitting in a plastic bag and throwing it out the window.

        1. westernsloper

          Right? You should just shit under a tree like god intended. Even if it is your neighbors tree.

          1. Bob

            That’s obviously the only two options. Neighbors tree or throw it out the window. Hopefully almighty government solves this problem for them. Before about 1950 humans never had to shit so our ancestors never faced such challenges as shitting.

          2. thrakkorzog

            So here’s a quick history/etymology lesson. Back in the day, It was perfectly normal for people in London to dump their human waste out in the street. They could charge people to haul it away, since people prefer not to have a pile of shit outside their windows, then sell it to farmers as manure, or tanneries for sundry reasons. (There’s a reason Leatherworking districts over history have usually been associated with slums. They literally smelled like shit.)

            Anyways, some people managed to become insanely rich in this line of work. To the point where they could afford the most upscale Gentleman’s clubs back when Gentleman’s club meant rich guys drinking cognac and smoking cigars, and not strippers. Anyways, noble rich guys would ask the new guys what line of work they were in to be able to afford entrance, and the new guys would reply that they worked in import/export, and the rich guys, would laugh, “Ha, you’re taking the piss.”

            And that’s where that expression came from.

          3. Brett L

            back when Gentleman’s club meant rich guys drinking cognac and smoking cigars, and not strippers Eh… I’m not sure it wasn’t all of the above.

          4. westernsloper

            I am not sure almighty government can fix that. It is something else that will eventually do that. I would wager 60% of the planet uses the ditches on the side of the road as sewers. A big chunk of them do not have a car to throw a bag out the window.

        2. J. Frank Parnell

          Fuck off, slaver!

    8. Gilmore

      we are ingesting this as human beings

      as opposed to…

      1. ~spirit creatures~

    9. JaimeRoberto

      Women and minorities hardest hit.

    10. Bob

      Sounds like the hippy vegan bullshit going around where everyone is poisoned by everything modern. The fact that people live longer than ever doesn’t occur to them.

      I don’t know how many people who are reasonably intelligent who claim soda is literally poison. Or McDonalds.

      We live in a world of technology filled with cavemen.

      1. CatoTheElder

        Sounds to me like the work of some dipshit NGO. NGOs are busy promoting plastics bans in Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam as well as Kenya.

        Having traveled in SE Asia and Africa over the past few decades, I really doubt that the NGOs are a net benefit to their intended beneficiaries because of nonsense like this.

        The fact is that truly poor people benefit from cheap plastic containers. Also, plastics are not toxic.

  11. Hyperion

    “Good news, everyone, I’m going to live forever! Actually, I’m probably down to 2-3 from 6+. So maybe I need to raise my game.”

    The one rule of studies is that there’s always another one that found the opposite result. So no matter what you want to be true, someone has proven it.

    1. Florida Man

      You got a study backing that claim up?

      1. Hyperion

        I need funding, maybe I should do a gofundme page?

    2. Roger Wilco

      Is it the caffeine or just coffee? I got some of these and they’re pretty great.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Chop these up and snort em.

        You won’t actually live forever, but you’ll feel like it.

  12. Raven Nation

    This would also have been an acceptable music choice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC5H9P4F5Uk

  13. mexican sharpshooter

    Apparently, pardoning Joe Arpaio is the latest thing that isn’t a crime that when looked at against the totality of Trump’s actions that still aren’t crimes, is further grounds for impeachment.

    And while the president may well get away with the specific act of pardoning Arpaio, this action will not be without effect on future calls for impeachment. Unlike a pardon of himself, family members, or aides in the Russia matter, pardoning Arpaio would probably not result in the immediate demand for an impeachment inquiry. If, however, impeachment pressure increases, or a formal impeachment inquiry is launched on the basis of Russian “collusion,” obstruction, or on other grounds, an Arpaio pardon in the background will be highly damaging to the President’s position.

    1. Hyperion

      I’ve somehow gotten the notion that anything Trump does which the left does not like, legal or not, is grounds for impeachment. Or doing anything at all. Or not doing anything at all.

    2. Brett L

      I don’t like that he pardoned Arpaio. There are like, 100,000 people in Federal prison I think should be pardoned first, but goddam am I tired of everything he does leading inevitably to impeachment. Ain’t no fucking way the Republicans are going to let the Democrats have that feather in their cap for an election. That’s politics.

    3. tarran

      I think the pardoning of Arpaio is actually grounds for impeachment. However, having the courts ‘review’ or override the pardon, which is what my proggie lawyer friends are arguing for is fucking illegal as hell.

      The pardon power is absolute. Period. It’s intended as a safety valve to provide a mechanism to undo unjust situations created by application of laws. It is intended to be a check on the courts. Trump clearly thinks the punishment of Arpaio for abusing his office and violating court orders is one of those unjust situations where his intervention is justified. I think it isn’t. I think it creates a dangerous mechanism for the executive to behave lawlessly. But, be that as it may, the legal mechanism isn’t to manufacture some limit that essentially allows the courts to second guess the pardon power, which would undo it as a check. The legal mechanism is…. to vote the guy out of office, or impeach him!

      Now, if the progs hadn’t cried wolf over things like allowing Ivana to greet foreign dignitaries, allowing the eclipse to happen, condemning all parties involved in a violent altercation, perhaps, just perhaps, they’d have a chance to convince people that something very dangerous had just happened. But they couldn’t control themselves, and now they look utterly deranged.

      1. tarran

        Editing fail The above should read:

        I think it creates a dangerous mechanism for the executive to behave lawlessly. But, be that as it may, the legal mechanism to correct poor judgement or abuse of power on the part of the executive isn’t to manufacture some limit that essentially allows the courts to second guess the pardon power, which would undo it as a check. The legal mechanism is…. to vote the guy out of office, or impeach him!

      2. Florida Man

        I know nothing of the law, so if the pardon is absolute, how can it be an impeachable offense?

        1. tarran

          You don’t have to break the law to commit a high crime or misdemeanor:

          The convention adopted “high crimes and misdemeanors” with little discussion. Most of the framers knew the phrase well. Since 1386, the English parliament had used “high crimes and misdemeanors” as one of the grounds to impeach officials of the crown. Officials accused of “high crimes and misdemeanors” were accused of offenses as varied as misappropriating government funds, appointing unfit subordinates, not prosecuting cases, not spending money allocated by Parliament, promoting themselves ahead of more deserving candidates, threatening a grand jury, disobeying an order from Parliament, arresting a man to keep him from running for Parliament, losing a ship by neglecting to moor it, helping “suppress petitions to the King to call a Parliament,” granting warrants without cause, and bribery. Some of these charges were crimes. Others were not. The one common denominator in all these accusations was that the official had somehow abused the power of his office and was unfit to serve.

          After the Constitutional Convention, the Constitution had to be ratified by the states. Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay wrote a series of essays, known as the Federalist Papers, urging support of the Constitution. In Federalist No. 65, Hamilton explained impeachment. He defined impeachable offenses as “those offences which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.”

          For the more than 200 years since the Constitution was adopted, Congress has seriously considered impeachment only 18 times. Thirteen of these cases involved federal judges. The “high crimes and misdemeanors” that the House charged against these judges included being habitually drunk, showing favoritism on the bench, using judicial power unlawfully, using the office for financial gain, unlawfully punishing people for contempt of court, submitting false expense accounts, getting special deals from parties appearing before the court, bullying people in open court, filing false income tax returns, making false statements while under oath, and disclosing confidential information.

        2. westernsloper

          Thanks for the lesson. Seriously I appreciate what people here point out.

          How did your friends feel about Obama pardoning some pretty nasty people, as well as Clinton pardoning Mark Rich who was in exile to avoid prosecution and whose wife was a big campaign donor?

          I did not know the origins of the high crimes and misdemeanors label but I think that ship has sailed. Not that that makes it right.

          1. tarran

            How did your friends feel about Obama pardoning some pretty nasty people, as well as Clinton pardoning Mark Rich who was in exile to avoid prosecution and whose wife was a big campaign donor?

            Based on my experiences in past arguments, if I were to ask them I expect that they would select an answer from one of the following choices:

            1) It didn’t happen.
            2) They (the pardoned people) were the victims of a right wing smear campaign
            3) They were convicted as a result of unjust, racist laws (accompanied with a crazy, often tautological argument to prove the racism/unjustness)
            4) Republican intransigence required the president to take this extraordinary measure.
            5) Look, it’s not good, but in the big picture of things every president does bad things, and it’s less bad than ordinary, and anyway he cared and at least he wasn’t a Republican!
            6) crickets chirping

          2. Mad Scientist

            6) crickets chirping

            Are you telling us that in one in six cases you have successfully made people shut the hell up?

          3. tarran

            No. They don’t shut up. They just pretend I didn’t write anything. They keep yapping on other threads.

            Although one did once tell me I was being “unhelpful and intrusive”.

            They really deserve the dystopia they so ardently ache for.

          4. westernsloper

            And these are lawyers right? That is kind of scary. I am thinking you are a lawyer. Correct?

      3. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Impeachment is a political act. As such, it does not require crimes to be committed, only the political will.

      4. kbolino

        My understanding is that Arpaio was imprisoned without a jury trial. The Supreme Court in Baldwin v. New York found some magic ink in the Constitution that said if the punishment is a jail sentence of six months or less then there is no right to a jury trial. Trump may have pardoned Arpaio regardless, and IMO the issue is more important than one high-profile case, but the pardon does not bother me even though I think Arpaio deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail, because the right to a jury trial is more important to me than going after one man.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          ^^This.

          They purposely tried Arpaio in this manner so that he would not be able to get his day in court.

          Fuck all parties involved. But this appears to me to be a sound application of the pardon power.

        2. tarran

          The Supreme Court in Baldwin v. New York found some magic ink in the Constitution that said if the punishment is a jail sentence of six months or less then there is no right to a jury trial.

          Gosh! It’s fascinating how often the courts discover powers they have that are completely constitutional despite never actually being granted to them by the document!

        3. Viking1865

          because the right to a jury trial is more important to me than going after one man.

          So you’d give the devil the benefit of the law?

        4. whahappan

          Except this pardon had nothing to do with the right to a jury trial. It will do less than nothing to reverse the Supreme Court ruling allowing the denial of the right to a jury trial for certain misdemeanors. It was purely a political decision signaling Trump’s support of Arpaio’s lawlessness in pursuit of illegal aliens and extra-judicial punishment of disfavored groups.

          1. kbolino

            I do not disagree with anything you said, but I don’t think it affects my point at all.

          2. thrakkorzog

            If the people going apeshit over the Arpaio pardon had some principles, and had spoken up about the abuse of presidential pardons before, then I might care. But this is clearly a case of principals, not principles.

    4. thrakkorzog

      Meh. I think Arpaio is an asshole. But here’s the thing, Obama pardoned unrepentant terrorists and traitors, and the media collectively yawned. Clinton sold a pardon to a depp pocketed Dem. So you’ll excuse me if I’m out of fucks to give about the abuse of presidential pardons.

      1. tarran

        It’s too bad. Because the corruption only stops when people start to care, i.e. we go from ignoring it to punishing it.

        Not that we, the vulgar masses, can do much about it.

        1. thrakkorzog

          Fair enough. But the problem is that most of the people screaming that the Arpaio pardon is unprecedented are wrong, because of ignorance or partisanship or both. There is plenty of precedentfor what Trump did there, the difference is that now it is wrongthinkers pardoning wrongthinkers. If Arpaio had been arrested for being a violent socialist revolutionary, you could expect to see him marching alongside Democratic politicians, but because Arpaio was pulling over too may brown people, he is literally worse than Hitler.

          Sorry if I’m not interested in joining in on today’s 2-minute hate.

        2. Winston

          Problem is impeaching Trump has little to do with cleaning up corruption or following the constitution but everything to do with eliminating someone the elites don’t like. Will it finally reign in the Imperial Presidency? No way.

        3. R C Dean

          the corruption only stops when people start to care

          Yup. About stopping corruption. Not just about stopping the other team. That hasn’t happened yet.

          1. kbolino

            Government is just the opportunity for our side to get the levers of power, use them against the other side, and enrich our cronies… together.

  14. Michael

    Here’s the interactive map of Internet trolling that you’ve always wanted:

    https://www.wired.com/2017/08/internet-troll-map/

    1. John Titor

      They list “yes, the socialist Hitler. Far right-wing he was. Uh huh.” as a mildly toxic comment.

      Somehow I question their analysis and objectivity.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Racism is right wing, QED

        1. Bob

          That’s actually the claim. If any government is racist- then right wing. Somehow the right goes along with this despite most racist governments being left wing including our own in history.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      The way the mouse magnifies shit has to be trolling? Is this the most meta of trolling?

    3. Hyperion

      Who the hell decides what a ‘toxic’ comment is?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        EPA. Duh.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          We’ll be super-fund site, shortly.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      Ha, ha VT. What a strange state. Can’t make heads or dicks of it.

      1. DOOMco

        New England seems higher in general. It could just be how we talk.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          CHOWDAH. SAY IT!

    5. DOOMco

      VT: fuck you, I’m eating.

    6. mexican sharpshooter

      Phoenix at 7.7%? We’re slacking.

      1. Vhyrus

        I know, right?

    7. Hyperion

      Park Forest, IL
      The most toxic city in the US, where 34 percent of comments are hostile. But 99 percent of those come from just two authors.

      Hostile to what?

    8. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I don’t see shriek’s hometown

      1. John Titor

        Dogdick, the Deep South isn’t accessible by roads or visible on any maps.

    9. Count Potato

      Apparently, pointing out that Nazis were socialist is “mildly toxic”.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        LALALALALALALALA….. They can’t hear you

      2. Hyperion

        Look, everyone knows Nazis were right wing. They just called themselves ‘National Socialists’ because, hey it was a joke you know! They were funny guys!

      3. Michael

        If someone ever gets upset when you point this out, ask them to identify the specific tenets of the Nazi party platform that they think run counter to socialist ideals and brace yourself for a lot of hemmin’ and hawin’.

      4. J. Frank Parnell

        No, they weren’t socialists, they were fascists, which is totally like the opposite of socialism or something.

        1. NOT a Naked Intruder

          Interesting that Mr. History absolutely equates socialism with communism, when virtually every other socialist tries to claim they are different ideologies.

          It’s almost as if socialism is so broadly defined, there can’t possibly be multiple flavors of it.

    10. kinnath

      Looks like Iowa is in second place behind Vermont. Iowa Nice as always.

    11. Playa Manhattan

      “Park Forest, IL
      The most toxic city in the US, where 34 percent of comments are hostile. But 99 percent of those come from just two authors.”

      Thus confirming that this entire exercise is bullshit.

      Cool 8th grade science project, bro.

      Whoops, was that toxic?

  15. Pope Jimbo

    No excitement about Crazy Aunt Maxine getting hoisted by her own petard?

    Charged with 3 ethics violations for arranging a meeting between a banking group that she owned a lot of stock in and the Treasury.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The Nazis set her up

    2. Brett L

      Who was the guy who they gave marked bills to and later found in his freezer? Didn’t he get off?

      1. Old Man With Candy

        William Jefferson.

      2. Chipwooder

        Nope, didn’t get off, sentenced to 13 years for bribery.

    3. Hyperion

      What the hell? The Russians got to Maxine now!?

    4. Hyperion

      “In a motion to dismiss the charges, which the ethics panel has denied, Waters’s attorney, Stanley M. Brand, said the congresswoman had done nothing wrong. ”

      “Hey, I wasn’t doing anything the rest of the crooks around here ain’t doing! It’s racism!”

      Sadly, if she said that, she’s half right.

      1. CatoTheElder

        She didn’t do anything that John McCain hasn’t done.

        1. Hyperion

          I think that McCain is trying to do as much damage to the GOP as he can before he keels over from that brain tumor. And as bad as I feel for having to say it, he’s not going to survive a glioblastoma for long, no one does. Ted Kennedy lasted a couple of months and a friend of mine, a perfectly healthy 46 year old, a little more than a month. He’s a dead man walking.

    5. Playa Manhattan

      The alien pulling the levers inside of her is going to be in big trouble.

    6. Vhyrus

      Schadenfreude boner activated.

    7. AlmightyJB

      It’s nice they gave her a stern finger wagging and a few harrumphs. I’m satisfied.

    8. Rufus the Monocled

      God, this racism is out of control. Look at what it’s doing to people like Crazy Aunt Maxine.

    9. Gilmore

      The committee also accused Waters of violating the “spirit” of a House rule prohibiting lawmakers from using their positions for financial gain

      uh huh. its just a complete coincidence that everyone in congress increases their net-worth many times over during their average tenure.

      She’s just getting clipped because she’s *doing it wrong*. By making graft so obvious, it spoils the scam for everyone else.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Yes

        There was a local city treasurer down here that just went to jail for corruption. It wasn’t that he was doing anything new, he just was dumb enough to use his sister as an intermediary when he bothered to even try to hide it.

    10. Slammer

      “Dindu nuffin”

    11. tarran

      I lost it when I got to the part where Barney Frank was telling her to cut down on the nepotism.

      Barney “hire my lover if you want lenient treatment” Frank.

      Barney “I got my lover a job at a GSE that the committee I preside over regulates” Frank.

      Barney “I shot down legislation that would have popped the mortgage security bubble 4 years early because it would limit the profitability of the GSE where my lover works” Frank.

      That’s just hilarious. What’s next, Bull Connor telling Gov Wallace to not be so racist?!?

    12. R C Dean

      Oh. The House Ethics Committee. Not a federal grand jury.

      No, actually not excited by that. Get back to me when there’s an actual criminal indictment.

  16. Old Man With Candy

    I just got my PSA result back from the lab. I apparently have the prostate of an 18 year old. Stand back, ladies, this is gonna be messy!

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      You should give it back to that poor kid, he might need it.

      1. Florida Man

        As far as I can tell, all the prostate does is get cancer and kill you.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          It also gets a finger stuck up your bum on a yearly basis for the low price of an insurance copay. Usually costs a lot more than that.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            It’s combining it with a reach-around that usually costs a lot…

            Or so I’ve heard.

        2. Playa Manhattan

          Prostate: The tonsils of the genitals.

          1. AlmightyJB

            I’d say that’s good for at least half of an internet. lol

          2. Florida Man

            I thought it was pretty clever. Full internet.

        3. Juvenile Bluster

          Isn’t there close to a 100% chance that if a man gets old enough, he will get prostate cancer?

          1. Or at least wish that he did.

          2. Florida Man

            BPH, if you live long enough.

        4. mexican sharpshooter

          As far as I can tell, all the prostate does is get cancer and kill you.

          That’s not all!

          The function of the prostate is to secrete a slightly alkaline fluid, milky or white in appearance, that in humans usually constitutes roughly 30% of the volume of the semen along with spermatozoa and seminal vesicle fluid.[4] Semen is made alkaline overall with the secretions from the other contributing glands, including, at least, the seminal vesicle fluid.[5]

          Bukakke is impossible without the prostate gland.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Ladies?

      Don’t you mean kiddies?

    3. Slammer

      Your prostate is too old for you

  17. Roger Wilco

    http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2017/08/28/texas-design-flooding

    As always, the problem is lack of PLANNING from TOP MEN.

    Sorry about the audio-only link, they apparently don’t transcribe this show.

    1. kbolino

      The only two comments yet posted are, of course, about global warming.

      There are lots of things that can be done to protect against floods. Most of them are very much not on the environmentalists’ approved list of things you can do. Fun fact: nature doesn’t give a shit about floods.

  18. wdalasio

    Obviously, the people of Houston have my sympathies and I’ll certainly donate to the recovery efforts. That said, at risk of sounding naïve or Pollyannaish, I’m actually confident that the region will recover fairly quickly. It’s Texas. It’s Houston. It’s the kind of people who respond to a natural disaster by getting boats and helping their neighbors, rather than waiting for the government to give them direction and bail them out.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      And the Katrina refugees go back to New Orleans.

      Win-win

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Any folk with these instincts will do OK.

      Texas woman gives reporter a sixer.

    3. mikey

      Saw an article with an interview with a FEMA guy. Speaking of Houston he said “we’ll be there for years.” Yeah, the dicks probably will be. And they’ll think that’s a good thing.

      1. kbolino

        The media freakout after Katrina pretty much guarantees that FEMA’s most important priority is appearing to be doing something. For this appearance, they will be rewarded with lots of funding. It’s a win-win for everybody involved.

        Well, except for the people whose homes were flooded and livelihoods were destroyed, but what do they matter?

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          FEMA pretends to do something, Congress pretends to case by funding FEMA. Win-win.

          My anecdotal experience with FEMA confirms that they are arrogant idiots.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Care

          2. kbolino

            There is an old story about Congress giving money to widows and orphans, and who could possibly be opposed to that, which ended with one such Congressman speaking to one of his constituents who not so gently reminded the esteemed gentleman that it wasn’t his own money he was so eagerly appropriating away.

            Sadly, such an understanding is lacking as much among the constituents as the Congresspeople nowadays.

          3. Dr Mossy Lawn

            Representative Col. David Crockett: (yes, that one) from TN.

            https://www.cato.org/blog/davy-crocketts-lesson-congress

          4. kbolino

            Much obliged, thank you.

          5. Brett L

            Just remember he told his constituents when they voted him out: “You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas.” I believe he beat most of them to Hell.

    4. Akira

      It’s pretty awesome to see people presumably using up their vacation time to go help other people while expecting nothing in return. Gosh, it’s almost like people in a free society will render aid to their fellow man without poking and prodding from the state…

      If I got sick of Ohio, I think Texas would be on my list of possible destinations.

  19. Pope Jimbo

    This is probably worth a pre-order.

    Best. State. Ever.: A Florida Man Defends His Homeland
    Dave Barry

    1. Florida Man

      I’ll check it out.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Remember not to color all the pages in one day.

  20. Rufus the Monocled

    THE FLOODS IS BECAUSE TRUMP TOOK AMERICA OUT OF THE PARIS ACCORDS AND HE DID IT BECAUSE HE HATES BLACK PEOPLE!!!

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      If I wanted to read CNN headlines, I’d go to CNN

    2. Florida Man

      You joke, but when I was living in South Florida, there were some black people that actually believed white people sent hurricanes to black areas.

      1. John Titor

        Personally I have a fondness for all the afrocentrists on the internet who believe things like how melanin contains the soul.

        1. Florida Man

          Can you dance JT? I didn’t think so. Hypothesis confirmed!

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Yakub is my friend

      2. I once sent Ruben Carter to South Florida.

    3. Vhyrus

      Somebody’s been reading WaPo comments…

  21. Derpetologist

    On caffeine: most of my mornings for the past year and a half have involved chugging an energy drink at 4 AM with another 3 during the rest of the day. I’m pretty sure I died last year, but the caffeine has kept the rigor mortis at bay.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Be careful with the energy drinks. Some of them have enough B vitamins to really fuck you up.

      1. Derpetologist

        Energy drink is the wrong term. They were mainly cold coffee drinks and Mountain Dew Kickstarts.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      I’ve been doing that since I was switched to night shift during my first deployment. So I’ve been dead for a little over 9 years.

      1. Derpetologist

        “I was dead for millions of years before I was born and I never suffered the slightest inconvenience.”

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Who said that? I want to steal it.

          1. DDG says Mark Twain.

          2. Hmm, it seems what Twain actually said was
            Annihilation has no terrors for me, because I have already tried it before I was born—a hundred million years—and I have suffered more in an hour, in this life, than I remember to have suffered in the whole hundred million years put together.
            Derps quote seems to be from Richard Dawkins who paraphrased Twain but presented it as a quote.

          3. mexican sharpshooter

            Fair enough. Nobody I know would know who Dawkins is anyways.

  22. Pope Jimbo

    Something any Minnesodan near the St. Croix could have told you.

    “We were left with smaller skulls after our ancestors started eating CHEESE”

    I’m sure wearing Green and Gold jerseys also plays a part.

    1. Hyperion

      Is that what happened to the French?

      1. BakedPenguin

        Bien sûr, mon ami.

  23. Vhyrus

    Is PieintheSky cheating on us? There’s no way there’s two libertarian Romanians!

    http://libertyhangout.org/2017/08/communism-dreams-go-die-personal-experience-balkans/

    1. DOOMco

      Lahey: “You cheated on me?”
      *glances at Barb*
      Lahey: “You cheated on us??”

    2. Just Say’n

      What the hell? And he wrote it for Liberty Hangout? They’re like the opposite of Reason- instead of desperately virtue signalling, they purposely counter-virtue signal.

      1. Vhyrus

        Wait, I thought we were the opposite of reason? I’m so confused now.

      2. Hyperion

        Ok. So can you give us a sample of this counter-virtue signaling? I’m not convinced that this exists as a thing.

        1. Lachowsky

          I’m here for me me and mine and fuck everyone else?

    3. Pan Zagloba

      I think he said his dad was an engineer, not a dentist, so yes, it’s possible there are two English-speaking libertarian-leaning dudes in Romania!

      1. John Titor

        This one also doesn’t talk about prostitutes as much as Pie does.

    4. Hyperion

      “There’s no way there’s two libertarian Romanians!”

      Oh no, PieintheSky is a cheater! Cut his fucking head off!

      1. Bobarian LMD

        There can be only one!

    5. BakedPenguin

      Well, whatevs you may think of them, KMW & Kennedy are both of Romanian extraction. Also, anti-SJW video dude Vee. Although I think he identifies as center-left.

      The Website might be a nightmare, but the long form rag is still far better, so I’ll cut KMW a bit of slack. I think part of the mis-communication re: Sloopy’s Mom – was that she (KMW) thought the idea was to present a full story in the mag, rather than a post on H&R, which is Gillespie’s domain. While I think what happened to Mom Sloopy was very brutal and ugly, I grant that it probably doesn’t rate a full story in a magazine, when people are actually dying due to brutal cops. But it definitely should have been a H&R post.

      I say this considering myself as a friend to sloop and banjos, and understand there will be criticism of this view.

    1. Vhyrus

      Thank you for that. I literally cannot stop laughing at work now.

    2. A Leap at the Wheel

      That is outstanding. I’m showing that to my burnt out, Department of Peace advocating, Denis Kucinich voting, friend who builds drones.

    3. AlmightyJB

      Doesn’t AI imply imitating ‘Human’ Intelligence?

    4. Hyperion

      They were designed for the purpose of negotiating in times of war, but instead they were requesting nude pictures to each other.

      Holy LOL, Count Potato has found a gem.

  24. Count Potato

    “Swedish businesses in the Stockholm no-go zone suburb of Husby have been left feeling helpless to vandalism and robbery as no security firm will accept a contract to patrol the town centre.

    The local government promised that by April there would be security guards in the centre of Husby in order to mitigate the violence and vandalism that is common in the area.

    At the end of 2016, shopkeepers in the area kept their shops closed to protest the ongoing chaos but now it looks increasingly unlikely the promised security guards will ever come, Stockholm paper Mitt i Stockholm reports.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/28/swedish-businesses-helpless-security-firms-refuse-work-no-go-zone/

    TW: Breitbart

    1. Vhyrus

      If you let me bring my guns and provide me with 20-35 year old scandinavian women I’ll beat the jihad out of anyone you want buddy.

        1. Vhyrus

          I believe I have explained before but I have no problem sticking it into crazy. At least they’re not land whales.

          1. John Titor

            Swedish rape law will ensure you’re in prison for a couple decades.

            But hey, at least it’s Swedish prison.

          2. Vhyrus

            So… nicer than my first three apartments… got it.

          3. Gadfly

            Are you sure they’re that harsh? Based on the Norwegians giving that guy who killed 100 kids only 30 years, I just assumed the Scandinavians operated on a different scale of justice: 1 year for a rape, 30 days for grand larceny, an afternoon’s detention for assault, and a frowny-face sticker for petty theft.

          4. John Titor

            This is assuming that Vhyrus has stuck his dick in multiple crazy, which is a likely scenario.

          5. Gadfly

            Good point. I guess the danger all comes down to whether they sentence consecutively or concurrently. Either way, he seems the man to risk it. For science (i.e. the discovery of new diseases).

          6. Vhyrus

            I judge on a hot/kinky matrix. Swedish girls pretending to be horses? The would is over 9000.

          7. Hyperion

            What’s the crime rate been like in Scandinavia for the last 20-30 years? Just curious, I really have no idea.

        2. AlmightyJB

          Would ride

        3. Hyperion

          No wonder the jihadists want to wipe out western culture.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Why would any private security take that contract? They’re guaranteed to catch hell from the police/pols after any incident because racism.

    3. Hyperion

      So the Nazis are now ruining Sweden also?

  25. Pope Jimbo

    Any of our Montanans want to explain this severe case of othering that was reported in the Kalispell area around 5pm?

    4:56 p.m. A Kalispell man was upset because “the entire bar was mad at him last night and it was the bartender’s fault and nobody would do anything about it.” He also called 911 multiple times the night before to convey the same message.

    1. Roger Wilco

      The bartender probably got all judgy because he wanted to get drunk on a Wednesday and yes he knows its early and yes he knows its the middle of the week he can make decisions for because he is a big boy and its close enough to 5p anyway so just give me my fucking scotch you jerk

    2. Vhyrus

      Eddie?

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Too soon!

      2. westernsloper

        Naaa. There is no mention of Catholicism and sex an then everyone ganging up and pointing out how much the pope sucks and anyone with fundamental beliefs are poopy heads.

    3. mikey

      Kalispell isn’t really Montana. Everyone except for the wandering cow is probably from California (especially the guy in the dress).
      BTW the air just keeps getting browner here from the smoke from the fires. Probably won’t get the Big Sky back until the snow puts the fires out.

      1. DOOMco

        I know some firefighters from Colorado went up there recently. I think they’re back now.
        I imagine most resources are heading south for the near future.
        (Props to Sloopy and others for helping)

        1. jesse.in.mb

          The day of the eclipse Casper looked like LA on a bad air pollution day. I was surprised I only saw one smoke plume the entirety of the trip.

          1. DOOMco

            That is a little surprising.
            I made it just north of Laramie, WY for it.

          2. jesse.in.mb

            I’ll take my eclipse without a side of pistol whipping and being left to die of exposure, kthx.

          3. Vhyrus

            I told you to stop by my house for a burner, but did you listen? NOOOOO!

          4. jesse.in.mb

            By the time one’s getting pistol whipped it’s a bit late to defend oneself, no?

      2. pedantic

        Kalispell is more Montana than Boze Angeles or Missoula for sure. Whitefish does increase the Cali % in the valley at any given time tho.

        The local weekly, Maury Povichs pet project in fact, has probably the best crime blotter I’ve read. The sheer inanity of it is amazing, you would never know Montana is a pretty live and let live state based on the calls the cops get. Complaints of stray dogs, kids on motorcycles, and errant cows fill the pages…
        http://flatheadbeacon.com/section/police-blotter/

        1. Hyperion

          “Boze Angeles”

          That’s the first time I’ve heard that term. Last time I was there, it was a pretty damn wild place. I mean like wilderness you can get lost in forever, not like a party town.

          1. pedantic

            Plenty of wilderness around still, but Gallatin County is the fastest growing in Montana, and Bozeman is the only city around with any sort of tech scene. Combine that with the local college and in my unscientific observation I’d say there are more transplants there than anywhere else in the state.

            Also, I seem to have posted a link that already exists upthread. Surely all new posters here get a mulligan tho..

          2. westernsloper

            Anybody who gives you shit about re-posting a link has issues. Ignore them.

          3. thrakkorzog

            Hell, at this point re-posting links has become a running gag. And to Pedantic, I’d like to give the traditional Glibertarian greeting of “Fuck off Tulpa.”

          4. Hyperion

            Yeah, don’t worry about that, it’s not like we plebes have God like (edit fairy) powers or anything.

          5. Hyperion

            Oh, yeah, and how rude of me.

            We know it’s you, Tulpa. Fuck off.

          6. westernsloper

            Thu, August 10, 2017
            A Kalispell man wanted to file a complaint about his lousy internet service in recent weeks. The man was reminded that it wasn’t really a criminal matter.

            Dear lord. Help these souls. Help them pack their cars and return to California where that is not seen as idiotic but yet another valid complaint.
            *lights candle and drinks bourbon sacrament*

          7. LT_Fish

            Is Bozeman where the Oracle plant set up?

            Honestly, one of my lottery projects would be to go to U Wyoming or MT and fund a nuclear engineering program with a sizeable test reactor or two – and use that to power most of the rest of the state – get some common sense tech programs and connectivity set up in a part of the country I’m more inclined towards living in…

          8. Hyperion

            The Bozeman area is really beautiful, so it makes sense it would be a target for progs to fuck up.

  26. jesse.in.mb

    Huh, the fumigator said when I got back after three weeks he’d have taken care of this problem, but you’re all still here. Someone’s getting a 1-star review.

    1. Vhyrus

      Hello Jessie…. I see the assassins have failed.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Goddammit, he got out of our freezer.

      2. John Titor

        That’s what you get for hiring assassins from Winnipeg.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          The roads almost rattled me loose at the molecular level though.

      3. jesse.in.mb

        I thought I was a gonner when they blotted out the Sun, but I prayed to Mithras, slayer of the World Bull and it returned. You’re welcome.

    2. AlmightyJB

      Hey Jesse.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      The could have done a better job, if you wouldn’t have insisted that they bring all their equipment in through the back door.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        I’ve now passed through your lands twice and have not been taken out for hookers and blow, or Surly’s.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Uffda. Who’s fault is that?

          Did you let any of us know you’d be here? Mike S – a known NoDak – told us he’d be here towards the end of September and we said we’d meet with him.

          Besides, Surly’s is too fucking hoppy (but their taproom is cool).

          1. jesse.in.mb

            Not really. I gave a quick itinerary, but my timing got somewhat scrambled with my grandfather dying a few days before I left, and my communication about my travels were…subpar at best. Last time I was out there I heard back from Mongo but nobody else before I traveled. Had a great time without you, so there.

          2. grrizzly

            Sorry to hear about your grandfather.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            Thank you. It’s kind of hard to believe he’s gone, but he was 92, lived a more interesting life than most and died before the suffering from mesothelioma became crippling. I just wish he’d been able to hold out for another week.

          4. Tundra

            I didn’t see Minne on your itinerary!

            Sorry, jesse. We’ll do better. Weather has been phenomenal, too.

          5. jesse.in.mb

            It was implied! I’d hoped to get to Fargo the night I was passing through that way, but took my time leaving Chicago, and stopped at Great America because I have a Six Flags annual pass. I only made it to St. Paul and crashed.

          6. Tundra

            Sorry to hear about grandpa, man.

            I fucking love road trips, though. Were you flying solo?

          7. jesse.in.mb

            Most of it. My roommate drove out with me to Denver (day 2) an then the other…19 days were alone.

          8. Tundra

            Wow. That actually sounds great. Glad you got out of the freezer OK.

          9. Pope Jimbo

            1) Sorry about your granddad.
            2) You are welcome. If you had me around, you wouldn’t have had a good time.

          10. DEG

            My condolences about your grandfather.

    4. Gilmore

      Huh, the fumigator said when I got back after three weeks he’d have taken care of this problem,

      ‘most passive-aggressive room-mate ever’

  27. LT_Fish

    Came across this article this morning – not sure if it’s shown up yet – MDMA as an [apparently successful] treatment for PTSD.

    TW: WAPO – Ecstasy could be ‘breakthrough’ therapy for soldiers, others suffering from PTSD

    In the two decades that followed, Doblin and MAPS inched toward progress.

    The nonprofit grew from a one-man band to a staff of 25 with headquarters in Santa Cruz. It tapped into the scene in Silicon Valley — where many tech entrepreneurs have used psychedelics to spark creativity. (Steve Jobs famously praised LSD as “one of the two or three most important things I have done in my life.”)

    MAPS received a $5.5 million bequest from the founder of a software company. The hipster soap company Dr. Bronner’s pledged $5 million. A professional poker player who attributed his wins to microdosing on LSD gave $25,000. Recently, an anonymous $21,000 bitcoin donation came in.

    Much of that money funded small-scale clinical trials, which laid the groundwork for the last remaining hurdle: Large-scale “phase 3” trials that will begin next year, involving 200 to 300 patients in 14 locations.

    If those future trials yield similar results, the FDA could approve the MDMA treatment for PTSD as soon as 2021, according to Doblin.

    Only 4 years away from formal government approval for something that’s perfectly safe for the controlled environment of the therapy described…..

    Seriously….it takes that much BS for this?

    By giving doses of MDMA at the beginning of three, eight-hour therapy sessions, researchers say they have helped chronic PTSD patients process and move past their traumas.

    In clinical trials with 107 patients closely monitored by the FDA, 61 percent reported major reductions in symptoms — to the point where they no longer fit the criteria for PTSD. Follow-up studies a year later found 67 percent no longer had PTSD.

    1. Gilmore

      Given that the diagnostic criteria for PTSD are so fuzzy in the first place, its hard to say whether it really means anything or no. What’s their control-treatment? Is this being contrasted to Prozac or something?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Depends. If they’re saying it’s a therapy on its own, it will be vs. placebo. If they’re saying it works in conjunction with, say, prozac, it’s MDMA+prozac vs. placebo+prozac. Have a feeling it’s the former though.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Don’t make me go on a rant about the FDA’s approval process. It’s beyond fucked up.

      But hey, at least this is SOMETHING.

      1. KSuellington

        I am definitely an MDMA in Vending Machines Libertarian.

    3. Hyperion

      I never get too optimistic for patients who might benefit when I see something like this. Actually moving MDMA to schedule 3 will probably make it even more illegal than it is now. And there will be an epidemic of course, and a war against it, just like with opioids. 2021? The FDA will get around to it as soon as they’ve secured a monopoly for one of their crony drug makers.

      1. LT_Fish

        VA specifically – if it only takes 3 supervised treatments to see that level of improvement – that’s pretty groundbreaking overall.

        Also much better reported effects than Zoloft or Paxil, the two currently approved meds.

        1. LT_Fish

          Particularly because it’s not as likely to become habit forming in that context – doesn’t involve “take-home prescriptions”, etc.

        2. Hyperion

          I’ve always been of the opinion that SSRIs are extremely bad. Iv’e seen people on them and they’re like a zombie, and then if they ever want to get off, it’s very difficult. Better to try anything over that shit.

    4. I miss Jerry Lewis and the MDMA Labor Day telethon.

    5. Brett L

      Looks like I’ll be getting PTSD in 2021. “Don’t worry, doc. My wife is in the field. She can administer it to us.”

      1. DOOMco

        His seems more official.

    1. Vhyrus

      I am deeply saddened that no subarus were part of that glorious video.

      1. DOOMco

        they’d need to make a very different car to conform to the regulations.
        I think they’re down to a 1.6 engine. I know VW is leaving.

      2. DOOMco

        I think they are still racing subies in the junior.

    2. Tundra

      Real racing. Bless you.

    3. Mad Scientist

      Rally drivers are zod damn insane.

      1. Gilmore

        The drivers are wearing seatbelts and helmets and protected by a roll cage. Its the fucking fans on the side of the road who are @)#(@$ insane

    4. westernsloper

      That. Is. Awesome.

      1. DOOMco

        “When in doubt, flat out.”

        1. westernsloper

          I thought of a business a few weeks ago and then thought of you. Or any other young fella/pineapple pizza eating/hipster who can turn a wrench and living in a location with people with too much money and who want to conserve their time. Some variations of it are out there but not what I am thinking as far as I know. I would do it, but I am old.

          1. DOOMco

            talk to me, goose!

          2. westernsloper

            I should have got your and DJ’s email after pool, but I needed to evac while I could still walk. It might be a lame idea so don’t get your hopes up. I think it has potential though. Then again I am an idiot. I thought my Stay Woke #Sandwich shirts would take off. Nothing!

          3. DOOMco

            I want to open a dirt track to get all the subarus around here to actually rally a bit.

          4. westernsloper

            I actually would watch a few sub wagons going for pole. That would be hilarious.

    5. LT_Fish

      Speaking of rally – do they still do the Paris – Dakar or did that get canceled starting around the Arab Spring?

      I guess in this format, they start a few min apart and just go for the timed run – unless they happen to overtake somewhere?

      1. SimonD

        They still have it, but it’s in South America…

        http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2017/us/route.html

  28. Grumbletarian

    This may well have been posted already, but I just found out about it today.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/ct-gone-with-the-wind-screening-20170828-story.html

    Gone With the Wind is too racially insensitive to be shown in theaters. Fucking insane. I sure hope the left is rounding up and burning all copies of the novel from which the movie was adapted too.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Been posted several times, but yeah. Fucking idiotic.

      (among other reasons, as I stated previously, Hattie McDaniel won an Academy Award for her role. It was the first Academy Award for a non-white actor. And they want to erase that?)

      1. Gadfly

        And they want to erase that?

        Any achievement not earned in service to the left is no achievement at all.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          They don’t want to erase it, they want to digitally re-edit so Hattie has all of Vivian Leigh’s speaking parts.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      I don’t know if the film is too racially intensive to be screened, but the production was pretty racially insensitive. When Clark Gable first arrived on set and found the facilities segregated, he said it was bullshit and threatened to walk out if they weren’t desegregated. They were. Then when Gable learned that his black costars wouldn’t be with him at the film’s premier in Atlanta due to the theater being segregated, he originally refused to go and had to be talked into going by Hattie McDaniel herself.

      1. Pan Zagloba

        Man, that plus his looks is enough to earn him a place on my “Would have gay sex with” list!

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          According to one biographer, at least, Gable was a rentboy in his early years.

          1. Pan Zagloba

            So he even knows his way around the equipment?

            The. Perfect. Man!

          2. Gustave Lytton

            Technically he was a woman(*)

            (*) at least for NC bathroom purposes. His birth certificate was mistakenly marked female.

          3. Pan Zagloba

            Technically not gay then?

            Also this

            Gable spent most of 1943 in England at RAF Polebrook with the 351st Bomb Group. Gable flew five combat missions, including one to Germany, as an observer-gunner in B-17 Flying Fortresses between May 4 and September 23, 1943, earning the Air Medal and the Distinguished Flying Cross for his efforts. During one of the missions, Gable’s aircraft was damaged by flak and attacked by fighters, which knocked out one of the engines and shot up the stabilizer. In the raid on Germany, one crewman was killed and two others were wounded, and flak went through Gable’s boot and narrowly missed his head. When word of this reached MGM, studio executives began to badger the Army Air Forces to reassign its most valuable screen actor to noncombat duty. In November 1943, Gable returned to the United States to edit his film, only to find that the personnel shortage of aerial gunners had already been rectified. He was allowed to complete the film anyway, joining the First Motion Picture Unit in Hollywood.

            and fuck, onto the list he goes!

          4. Winston

            There is a rumor that he get Cukor fired for knowing that.

            Hadleigh and/or Porter?

        2. Lachowsky

          So, he knocks you off your six?

        3. You’re turned on by those ears, aren’t you?

      2. Dakotain

        You must be mistaken because according the Wikipedia, Gable was a conservative so obviously a Nazi.

        But seriously, very cool of Mr. Gable.

        1. Winston

          In Hollywood terms conservative meant anti-commie. Even pro-new dealers and anti-nazis like Robert Montgomery.

      3. Winston

        Leslie Howard was Jew who produced war propaganda and was killed by Nazis.

      4. LT_Fish

        It did win the first oscar for a black actor/actress – and the only one before Sidney Poitier.

    3. The Last American Hero

      What’s the over/under on Lefty Book Burning? We can’t be that far out at this point.

      1. Hyperion

        They’ve still got some statues to kill. But they’ll be around to it probably sooner than later.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        I’m pretty sure it’s already happened.

    4. Akira

      I wonder where this shit ends. Are they going to exile every novel that depict slave ownership? You know, Robinson Crusoe was on a journey to pick up slaves when he got shipwrecked, so is that book going to be exiled next?

      1. Hyperion

        It ends when capitalism is finally defeated and the great socialist utopia ushered in. Then there will be no reason for people to fight, since everyone will be equal and living in paradise on earth.

        1. Akira

          Yea, I guess you wouldn’t be getting up to fight if you’re weak from hunger and suffering from wicked diaper rash due to the lack of toilet paper.

          1. Hyperion

            That wasn’t socialism, it was state capitalism!

          2. Akira

            Ah, yes, the evils of “state capitalism”!

            You know, a hallmark of “progressive” “thought” is that they don’t really have clear definitions of any term they use. However, the exception appears to be that “capitalism” always means “getting rich”.

  29. westernsloper

    This is particularly worrying, IOActive said, because these machines are large enough and have enough power that “even running at low speeds, their force is more than sufficient to cause a skull fracture.”

    This is why I don’t have one of those irobot vacuum things. Fuckers will eventually turn on you and suck your face right off your head.

  30. Derpetologist

    So the guy who designed the Stars and Bars was a big fan of slavery:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Porcher_Miles

    The Great Compromise of 2017- everywhere there is a rebel flag or Confederate monument on public ground, a plaque must be displayed which reads: North Wins; Slavery Bad.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I’m stunned there isn’t a movement to replace Florida’s state flag, given that it’s based on the Stars and Bars.

      1. Derpetologist

        I thought it was designed by an alligator.

        “Legend has it that Captain Jack designed the town flag.”

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          By the railroad track? That Captain Jack?

  31. thepasswordispassword

    The Norks lobbed another one this time over Japan’s big north island. That’s a first for the current fat man with a bad haircut right?
    Will Japan repeal Article 9? Will China spank their retarded step child? Is the US going to get tired of this shit and mobilize all the assets that have been steadily pouring into South Korea and Japan?
    http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id6401

    1. Vhyrus

      Lobbing a missile over a country I am almost certain is considered overt hostilities.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        It is an almost literal shot across the bow. My only question is, was it’s trajectory intended or is that just the way it flew and Lil Kim just rolled with it?

          1. Hyperion

            Morale will improve! Or else!

    2. The Last American Hero

      It’s Japan. If they think there is an actual threat, they will unleash their secret Mecha Army.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Led by this guy.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        Mechagodzilla, Voltron, Super Sentai (Power Rangers), the Evas from Evangelion, a couple of Gundam mecha, maybe Macross. The Norks can’t stand against such power.

    3. Hyperion

      What, is Trump not paying enough attention to Kim lately? Just imagine a little toddler with nukes, it’s real. I mean Kim, not Trump.

    4. LT_Fish

      First one since the TD-2 shot in 1998 IIRC.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    By giving doses of MDMA at the beginning of three, eight-hour therapy sessions, researchers say they have helped chronic PTSD patients process and move past their traumas.

    Just wait ’til the SWATters kick the door in mid-session. That’ll tell us if it works or not.

    1. Zunalter

      I mean, the reaction to that would be a fairly good indication as to whether the PTSD symptoms had been helped.

    1. Hyperion

      Unless the cops need to try out some of their new toys and your house happens to be the wrong one this time.

      1. John Titor

        Once I saw the article I immediately thought “which clip of Mad Bull 34 is HM going to use?”

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          You know me too well.

      2. Derpetologist

        Might want to put an NSFW tag on that.

        I should have known better than to click your link.

      3. Pan Zagloba

        You take that back! American cops are too whiny, cowardly and shit at aiming to be worthy of comparison with Mad Bull!

  33. Private Chipperbot

    Parrot seals conviction in murder case…

    Martin Duram’s ex-wife, Christina Keller, has said that after the slaying, the pet parrot, Bud, repeated “don’t (expletive) shoot” in Martin Duram’s voice. Keller took ownership of the bird after Martin Duram’s death.

    1. Vhyrus

      What a stool pigeon! He sung like a canary!

      1. that’s ostrich, I doubt emu what e was doing.

        1. Hyperion

          When I lived in Indiana, there was someone who was raising some Emus on their property. My sister and her kids were visiting from out west and one of my nephews (he was maybe 10 at the time) tells me and a couple of my friends that he saw some ostriches. We were laughing at him and telling him there are no ostriches in Indiana and he was getting really angry. I knew he was talking about the Emus though, but he was always too fun to mess with so we couldn’t resist.

          1. I bet you egret that now.

          2. Hyperion

            No, it was emoo much fun. Ok, this thread needs to die now.

          3. thrakkorzog

            Don’t get your tits in a twist.

          4. Die? Just wren we’ve got started?

          5. Scruffy Nerfherder

            You guys are a bunch of loons.

          6. Hyperion

            Birds of a feather shitlord together.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      That’s why I make my crimes so shocking as to render both man and beast mute from terror.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I thought it was that the accompanying bass deafened them and the prodigious ass struck them dumb.

    3. DOOMco

      That’s enough internet for today.

    4. Derpetologist

      a search of “court cases involving parrots” turned up a story about a divorce case where custody of the parrot was split, with the condition that neither party could teach the parrot to say negative things about the other. It also led to accusations of joke plagiarism on Twitter.

      http://blogs.findlaw.com/strategist/2016/11/lawyers-parroted-twitter-joke-leads-to-accusations-of-plagiarism.html

      1. Hyperion

        Did you read about that one, I think it was in Britain, where a woman trained her parrot to harass her neighbor? She apparently put it somewhere where anytime he left his house or came back, he had to walk right past the window where the parrot was and it would make insulting remarks about him. He called the cops a couple of times and they came and asked the woman to move the parrot, but she didn’t. Or did but put it right back once they were gone. One day the guy lost it and stabbed the woman to death.

        1. Vhyrus

          I have a hard time finding sympathy for her.

          1. Hyperion

            You should have read the comments. Most of them were something like ‘don’t be a cunt’. I couldn’t muster any sympathy myself. It was just some old guy living alone who’s wife had passed away and I guess he was pleading with the cops that he just wanted to be left alone. Sad story.

    5. Derpetologist

      I Know Why the Caged Bird Testifies

  34. Playa Manhattan

    Tickets to Clinton’s book tour cost up to $1200.

    Did she forget that she’s not in power anymore? People aren’t going to pay that kind of bribe money.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Are you nuts? Of course people are going to pay it. She’s still the Princess Who Was Promised, usurped by an orange monster.

      1. Hyperion

        Yeah, she’s the ultimate victim.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      If I pay it, do I get to ask uncomfortable questions?

      1. Hyperion

        You mean like ‘what’s your fav icecream flavor?’. Yes, and I’m sure the response with be so humorous!

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Good Humor?

  35. westernsloper

    Expect gas prices to go up at least 10% until Houston gets back to work. Maybe, just maybe, enviroweenies, we should move some of our eggs out of that basket.

    While I agree with Bretts opinion that we need more refineries in fine places like the ones I see right out my patio door, (taking into account transportation costs) everybody is aware we have the cheapest gas prices on the planet outside of what Venezuela used to do right? I don’t know the street price in Venezuela now, but a few years ago it was ridiculous cheap. Ask the Canadians what they pay for gas. That scare article was kind of funny.

    1. Hyperion

      “I don’t know the street price in Venezuela now”

      Except it doesn’t matter, because everyone sold their car to buy a dozen eggs and some bread.

      1. westernsloper

        I worked with a guy who lived on Margarita Island. Canadian dude. He told me stories of $.25 a gallon. I am not sure if it is true, because he was a Maritimer and they tend to be full of shit. I wonder why we don’t see stories of the vacation areas of Venezuela? I do know my friend from Maracaibo split. I have not heard from him for awhile.

  36. Diane Reynolds

    This is a good idea.

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/mayoral-candidate-jenny-durkan-pitches-free-community-college-tuition-for-seattle-high-school-grads/

    Seattle mayoral candidate Jenny Durkan wants the city to pay for two years of community-college tuition for all the city’s public-high school graduates.

    Pitching a plan she called “Seattle Promise,” Durkan estimated her proposal would cost about $4.5 million in 2018, and $7 million a year after that, with subsequent increases for inflation. She said funding sources could include the city’s tax on sweetened beverages, a $500 million local-education fund included as part of Sound Transit 3, and the city’s Families and Education Levy, which is up for renewal in 2018.

    1. Diane Reynolds

      But there’s good news at the end of the tunnel. The candidate she’s running against disagrees with her proposal.

      Wait for it…

      She said it doesn’t go far enough.

      Reacting to Durkan’s proposal, Moon agreed local students should have the opportunity to have free tuition at community and technical colleges. But in a statement, she called such proposals “not enough.”

      1. Tundra

        What? Free tuition and a new car?

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Dude, do you even Seattle? Light rail pass.

        2. Mad Scientist

          Cars are for Gaia rapers. Every right-thinking college student knows they need a free pony.

          1. thrakkorzog

            Ponies are bad for the environment as well. Better to give them all Unicorns that shit rainbows to signal their inclusiveness.

      2. DOOMco

        good gravy train.

      3. Hyperion

        What’s not to like about free stuff that no one has to pay for?

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That estimate is guaranteed to be off by an order of magnitude.

      1. Diane Reynolds

        An order of magnitude is an understatement.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          By orders of magnitude.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Screw all of those assholes who paid twice for their kids education

    4. thrakkorzog

      I don’t know about in Seattle, but isn’t community college already pretty heavily subsidized? It’s been a while, but when I went to CC it was insanely cheap compared to even the heavily subsidized state colleges. (For the record, I spent my first year of college attending a CC college to save money while working. Took care of the various pre-reqs, and some none core requirements, then transferred to a 4 year university.)

    5. Hyperion

      When I saw it was out of Seattle, I already knew that it’s not a good idea. Now I’ll go back and read just to confirm my assumption.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      “I’m not a size zero and I kind of felt targeted because of my size,” Allison Veazey, a Sophomore at Stratford High, told WCBD.

      “It was really hurtful because it made me feel like my size made me look disgusting toward someone in the clothes that I wear,” she continued. “And to think that someone would think that I would look like a sausage, that was kind of hurtful.”

      A) John hit hardest.

      B) How long before partners are assigned by the Handicapper General? ‘Wah wah. I’m fat but I don’t want people to think I’m fat’. Hey dumbass– don’t like people’s judgement of your body? Put down the yoohoo & twinkies and starting exercising. Or at least don’t wear unflattering form fitting clothing.

      1. thrakkorzog

        I’ve known some larger sized women who weren’t exactly short of male attention. They wore clothes that concealed what should be concealed, and revealed what should be revealed. Unless you’re morbidly obese, most guys are going to do a double take at some DDs, even if what’s below them is also pretty big.

        1. Hyperion

          There are quite a few ass men around there here parts. Even among we whitey.

          1. thrakkorzog

            True. I was thinking of one of a former coworkers I used to go out with for drinks after work. She was a big girl. When she wanted some she tended to wear V-neck blouses and a long skirt that covered up her cankles. When she put her elbows on the bar while trying to get a beer she would inevitably get hit on.

            I mean telling fat girls not to wear leggings is a bit like telling fat people they shouldn’t wear horizontal stripes, and should probably wear solid darks. I don’t think there ought to be a law, it’s just good advice.

    2. Password gl1b

      “It was really hurtful because it made me feel like my size made me look disgusting toward someone in the clothes that I wear,”

      Well, maybe you do. I haven’t seen a picture.

      she continued. “And to think that someone would think that I would look like a sausage, that was kind of hurtful.”

      LOLOLOL She just gave me, perhaps inadvertently, the best way I’ve ever heard to describe fat chicks in yoga pants.

      1. Password gl1b

        The whole ‘fat-shaming’ thing is supremely irritating because it completely disregards agency on the part of the fatties. Don’t want people to think you’re fat? Quit being fat. It’s not everybody else’s damn job to not only tolerate, but actively validate your choices. It’s antithetical to human nature for the sake of being so. Judgement of others is 100% normal. This kind of thing is designed to break down societal norms to open the door for more extreme crap to be ‘accepted’ and ‘tolerated.’

    3. Hyperion

      First of all, the principal is a fucking idiot. I don’t care how much you think that, you can’t actually say it or you really are a shithead and should not be someone making rules for students and hopefully setting some sort of an example of decent human behavior.

      Either leggings are against the dress code (do they still have those?) or they aren’t.

      1. Lachowsky

        My wife was reading some papers from the public school my boy started in last week. They have a specific date set where it’s against the dress code to send your child to school in shorts because obviously parents are too stupid to look at the weather reports and determine whether or not it’s going to be cold outside.

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        In AZ they do. They are stricter for elementary schools on things like booty shorts, unnatural hair color, offensive message (Che is not allowed). Leggings are okay.

      3. Akira

        When I did orientation for my new job last Monday, the HR lady mentioned in her boilerplate speech that the attire is “business casual”.

        When I started work on the next day, I saw a thicc babe in the break room wearing yoga pants (as she was squatting down to get something out of the fridge).

        I didn’t know yoga pants were business casual, but I’m 110% OK with this new development.

        1. Hyperion

          I’m pretty sure that is not what’s meant by business casual. I live in a business casual world when visiting all of my clients. Jeans are allowed on Friday. But for some reason, there are some people around those places that seem to get away with wearing jeans every day. No way I could get away with that. Of course when I’m working from home, it’s either the boxers and t-shirt I slept in or a bathrobe.

          1. Akira

            Yea, it’s kind of weird. I also saw guys walking around in cargo shorts, t-shirts, and flip-flops, and not on Friday either. Hell, one guy looked like he just gave his car an oil change before he came in. There’s an absence of short-shorts on girls, but other than that, people appear to wear whatever they want.

            The HR person was doing a teleconference orientation from the corporate headquarters in Baltimore, so the dress code there is probably much more strict.

          2. Hyperion

            That definitely will not fly round these here parts. Like I said, I see some people getting away with Jeans during the week, but shorts are a no no and you won’t see any guys wearing sandals or shoes without socks. That’s a real taboo. I once threatened to stage a protest because guys can’t wear open toe shoes to show off their painted toenails like the girls can, but that didn’t fly. I was kidding of course, but regardless, I wasn’t getting anywhere with that.

            Baltimore seems just about as conservative about dress at work as anywhere I’ve been. It’s cool to say you hate Trump, but you can’t have pink and blue hair or wear yoga pants in the office.

          3. You see that in with “creatives” a lot. Where I work our IT stuff is managed by onsite contractors and run by feds, and they’re khakis and polos 100% of the time. I, on the other hand, am a web dev in the communications side employed by a university, and I dress like Hank Moody from Californication. I generally won’t wear shorts and I don’t wear t-shirts with bands or logos or anything on them, but that’s about as buttoned up as I have to get.

          4. Hyperion

            I have to meet with actual clients, so I can’t do that. I’m a dev too, but also a business analysts. But hooray for work at home, which I can do most of the time. I bet you can’t go to work in your underwear, lol, unless you also have the remote option. I typically get up about 8:30 (this morning I was up at 8, but that’s atypical), put on a pot of coffee and go to my puter. 1 minute commute, it’s awesome.

          5. Yeah, I walk to work, too, so there are a bunch of reasons why Underwear Tuesday isn’t ever gonna take off. Still working on landing a full remote gig. I wake up when my kid wakes up, and she’s been a 6:30 girl lately, but not having to get ready and go to a place to work would make the morning much, much nicer.

          6. Hyperion

            Walking to work is pretty awesome also. My 2-3 times a work commute can really suck ballz at times, the traffic here can get really bad. And I typically never have to go more than 20 miles. Usually, less than 15.

          7. Hyperion

            ‘week’

          8. robc

            My work is business casual. They had to carefully define it a few months back. It was clear the mens section was token. It was primarily to say no yoga pants or leggings.

      4. Bob

        It doesn’t seem that edgy to me. It’s only really inappropriate because of the political environment. In a world that watched blazing saddles it’s more like an unpleasant or humorous way to say something with a bit of truth.

        1. Hyperion

          That film freaked my wife out. Even more than South Park. She’s like ”whaaaatttt???”, lol. We Murikans, we funny guys!

    1. Hyperion

      Libertarians, wanting to kill children with beer. Figures.

    2. creech

      Speaking of what should we do to help Houston, Rev. Franklin Graham was on TV earlier today saying (twice) “we need to pray.” I had a blasphemous WTF moment:
      Did Graham visualize God sitting in his CEO office telling his chief clerk to let him know when the prayer meter hit, say, 300 million, and he would then turn off the
      precipitation? Why would God allow millions to suffer until Graham and his cohorts persuaded enough people to pray to get His attention? Seriously, those of you who are religious, what is the expected outcome of prayer in these kinds of situations?

      1. Hyperion

        Did you send in your monthly donation to Rev. Graham last month? No?, ok then we know that it is creech who is responsible for destroying Houston. Repent, ye shitlord.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I have my theories but I’m formerly somewhat religious, current agnostic, so I don’t really fit your request

      3. mexican sharpshooter

        Its the smallest possible gesture to show your positive feelings on the matter. Which is partly why I neither sent nor request prayers from others. Its the theocratic equivalent of the hashtag.

      4. I’m not religious, but I think if you look at things from a C.S. Lewis perspective the point would be that you’re asking God to give people the strength to endure the suffering. Why do you have to ask God? Why doesn’t he just do it? No idea. Maybe there’s something about human agency there, like part of the deal has to be that people want God to help enough to ask him to do it. Or maybe God acts as a metaphysical Western Union, and people send their good prayer vibes to other people via him.

        I don’t know. I think it’s mostly so that people can tell other people that they’re thinking of them and care about them. Obviously there are more direct ways to help, but it’s probably still nice to hear.

        1. Hyperion

          Because of having been born into and having grown up around religious fundies, I’ve had a lot of time to think about this, and it wasn’t like I had a choice. Still, I do not have any bad opinion of any of those people, who scared the fucking shit out of me as a child with their constant apocalyptic prognostications of doom.

          I’m pretty much what would be described as an agnostic. I’m not saying there’s not a ‘god or gods’ or whatever. What I am saying is that religion has pretty much, throughout history, been 2 things. 1. A system to control people through fear, and 2. A false hope for people who had little hope, no control of the world they lived in, and little or no understanding of the whole matter.

          1. I mentioned Lewis because I was raised Episcopalian and because I read a lot of his apologia when I was younger. Whatever you think of the guy and his beliefs, he was an excellent writer. The Problem of Pain goes into the whole, “Why would God let bad things happen?” stuff pretty convincingly if you’re approaching it from the perspective of someone who is already at least somewhat a believer.

            Myself, I’m an atheist, but just because I haven’t seen anything to convince me otherwise. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with religion, I just don’t have faith.

          2. Hyperion

            I’m not an atheist because of various reasons. None of it having to do with my upbringing. It’s all just science to me. I don’t have proof of a God, and I also do not have proof that everything we see was not created by … some intelligence.

            Really, the origin of religion is quite fascinating and perplexing to me. The idea is so seemingly abstract that I’m not sure how anyone ever thought it up. Apparently, from what we now know, it started as ancestor worship.

            Weird shit. So one of our paleolithic ancestors was trapped in a gully being stalked by a hungry saber tooth and starving himself, and suddenly he goes ‘Whoa dude, I know what’s going on, some sky god created all this stuff and … and … ok, just wait until I get… if I get back to the village, I’m gonna lay all this shit on my friends and start a cult!’.

          3. Bob

            Were you really scared or are you just exaggerating?

          4. Vhyrus

            I have halloween candy from my neighbors when I lived in upstate South Carolina. It’s a little plastic baggie with a few pieces of candy and a little comic book. In the comic book it has a child (maybe 8) and they’re explaining to the child how they are going to hell for thinking bad thoughts.

            You don’t think that could scare an eight year old?

          5. thrakkorzog

            Yeah, I found a few Chick Tracts in my Halloween candy bag back in the day. Freaked me out back in the day.

          6. Hyperion

            Yeah, I’m totally exaggerating. I see you’ve never had a red faced seemingly possessed fire and brimstone preacher screaming in your face about burning in hell fire forever.

          7. Hyperion

            And ok, that’s funny when you’re an adult, when you’re 10 it’s terrifying.

      5. Bob

        Prayer has the virtue of being private and therefore a bad way to virtue signal. In that way I find it superior to commenting.

        1. westernsloper

          Amen

      6. westernsloper

        Seriously, those of you who are religious, what is the expected outcome of prayer in these kinds of situations? Is that a serious question to the people who comment here or just a cheap shot at those who believe prayer changes natural events? I think the latter. Whatever. How are those people praying harming you? Or do you just like making fun of them? I would suggest making fun of people who actually effect your life.

        1. Lachowsky

          I’m gonna guess it’s probably serious
          People of no faith don’t understand people with faith.
          It’s understandable that an atheist would be curious as to how how a believer can think that offering prayer can possibly help

          1. westernsloper

            It most likely does not help other than encouraging someone else who needs some encouragement in a low point in their life. But by all means lets make fun of the people who like to think they are helping someone else. I am close to being agnostic and who knows what I am, but making fun of people for praying is a 100% dick move. It does not effect you. it has nothing to do with you, they are not praying you pay for their healthcare, they are not praying you turn your house over to them, they are not praying that you die……fuck…….who cares what people pray for. Progs are not the only ones who social signal.

        2. creech

          Serious.. I attend weekly Men’s group at a Presby church. I ask theological questions of the pastor and my fellow members, many of whom are good friends and jolly fellows. No one has ever replied that prayer is anything like what Rev. Graham implied (that God would answer the prayers to stop the tragedy and suffering). The pastor’s sermon a few weeks ago was that prayer was just a way for the supplicant to establish his personal relationship with God and should never be to ask for material possessions for oneself or others or to expect God to listen and end Wars or famines or the like, because thousands of years of these
          kind of sufferings show that God and prayer doesn’t work that way. Still pretty confusing to understand what one should expect from prayer.

          1. thrakkorzog

            I attended a fairly Fire and Brimstone church, I was told that prayer was where you did confession, you still needed to confess your sins, but only those money grubbing papists needed some human intermediary. But you need to face your sins. You can lie to yourself about your sins, but there is no point in lying to God. God knows what is in your heart, so you can’t BS him.

            I have since become an atheist, but I have to admit that experience gave me a healthy sense of introspection. And I have nothing against people praying.

            I’m fairly libertine, what two or more consenting adults do behind closed doors doesn’t bother me so long as they don’t do it in the street and scare the horses. I try to extend the same tolerance to religious people. If some sportsball players want a moment to pray among themselves, I see no reason to be a dick and try to stop that.

          2. westernsloper

            I grew up in a very evangelical whacko church/family. Even as a young westernsloper I witnessed the power of prayer change peoples lives. Not because of some theological question but by what happened in those peoples lives. Was it intervention? Was it them believing in something and it was self fulfilling? Was it luck? Who knows. People like to wish good on others I don’t see that as a bad thing, or even something to even question. What the hell does it matter?

            Graham implied (that God would answer the prayers to stop the tragedy and suffering)

            Anyone who has been in a shit spot in life. Even if it is just being stuck in a snow storm and you did a drift to the right and buried your truck in the snow bank knows suffering. You are suffering because it is in the hills and no one drives that road but dumb asses when it is storming. Someone comes along and your suffering is eased because he pulled you out.

            It is not all changing weather patterns and parting waters. That is for the progs and Barack the seas have receded Obama. Easing suffering can be something as simple as help from a fellow human being. From what I hear a lot of prayer has maybe been answered in Houston.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      It’s Anheuser-Busch. Same thing.

      1. westernsloper

        +1 beer snob

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I’m just trying to keep people hydrated.

          1. westernsloper

            Amen

          2. Hyperion

            And kill children with the devil’s dishwater. Probably has dope in it too.

  37. Mr Lizard

    I was referenced on the links? I’m shockingly flattered

  38. straffinrun

    Who the hell is sending me a message at 5:30 am? *Checks phone*. Oh, it’s just the government telling me to take shelter if I’m in the path of the Nork missile. Thanks, government guy.

    1. John Titor

      Are there public fallout shelters in Japan or something? Because ‘duck and cover’ ain’t going to cut it for a great deal of distance from ground zero.

      1. straffinrun

        In the countryside, I doubt it. In Tokyo and other major metro areas they say to get down to the subway station.

    2. Lachowsky

      did they inform you of the path of the norks missile?

      1. straffinrun

        Just said that it was over the Northeastern part of the country. I got another message from them at 6:30 warning us of a phone scam that was happening.

    3. westernsloper

      Well, jesus……pay attention. How are we supposed to know when you get blown up and hundreds of missiles smoke Hawaii and California if you are not paying attention?

    1. westernsloper

      Holy stack the bodies like cord wood Yo.

  39. AlmightyJB
    1. Vhyrus

      Well that mask went flying off didnt it.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Having the media and DNC politicos on their side has given them an unwarrented and premature sense of confidence and ego that I don’t believe will end well for them.

    2. westernsloper

      Holy moly. Where was that gathering of black plastic clad knights of marxism?

        1. AlmightyJB

          Of course anyone not matching for Marxism is a right winger.

        2. westernsloper

          Oh. I had not seen that picture.

    1. straffinrun

      WaPo finally said something about AntiFa violence a few days ago. It’s not hard to imagine one of the top brass coming to the conclusion, “Ooooooh, these roving bands of mercs may actually help Trump.”

      1. AlmightyJB

        Yeah, it takes the media longer than the rest of us to figure that out because they’re so used to controlling the narrative. When they controlled everything that got put in front of the public they just would have just edited the antifa violence out.

        1. straffinrun

          Google/Youtube are doing Yeoman’s work by putting any damning evidence into limited space.

      2. Brett L

        I disagree with “mercs”. People beating people for money, I can forgive. The Antifa guys who do the beating are just sadists.

        1. AlmightyJB

          I wonder how many of them are SEIU operatives working on the clock.

          1. LT_Fish

            They were hiring protesters for AZ last week at $25/hr on Craigslist.

    2. John Titor

      The one positive thing I’ve gotten out of this is that I can finally shut jackass extreme law-and-order conservatives up with actual footage when they argue that I can’t criticize the police.

      1. westernsloper

        haha
        + 1 dumb look of confusion

    3. Drake

      One of these days they are going to corner a guy with a concealed weapon like that and a bunch of commies are going to be dead on the street.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I also look forward to that day.

  40. Q Continuum

    Re: Antifa, OFA and Open Societies Foundation – It’s pretty obvious they’re all connected. Instead of the DoJ taking control of local jurisdictions, as has been suggested here, why not RICO their ass? Tie them up in court from now until the end of time?

    1. AlmightyJB

      I would love to see that

    2. Because RICO is an evil law that shouldn’t be on the books.

  41. Waterfall Insurance

    Someone probably already posted this but the VMAs was woke Sunday school this year. http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/robert-e-lee-descendant-speaks-out-against-racism-duri-1798492688

    1. Playa Manhattan

      They played the song “fuck Trump” during commercial breaks, but us simple folk weren’t supposed to find out about it.

      1. Q Continuum

        The culture at large wants me to hate Trump so badly, the contrarian in me likes him just out of spite.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          That’s where I am. I didn’t vote for him, but I might next time.

  42. straffinrun

    I hope everybody in Texas is starting to dry out.

    1. thrakkorzog

      So can any of the Houston Glibs let me know the status of the Beercan house?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I heard that the beer is watered down.

        1. westernsloper

          Less filling now. + Dysentery

    2. westernsloper

      Speaking of that. And I find it hilarious that that picture made me think of him, but has anyone heard from F Stupidity?

  43. Winston

    http://niskanencenter.org/blog/libertarians-conservatives-stop-opposing-welfare-state/

    So it seems quite a few libertarians are conservative progressives. They support the progs but less. They seem to think we need TOP MEN to implement their ideas. And then there is the Populist/Progressive (as in Lafollete) hat we need said TOP MEN to save us from Big Business.

    1. Raven Nation

      Take a look at their advisory board: David Frum, George Schultz, 2 people from the Brookings Institute, Matt Zwolinski (co-founder of Bleeding Heart Libertarians)…

      I assume Niskanen was formed in the aftermath of the civil war at CATO.

      1. Winston

        David Frum? Really?

      2. Winston

        So what is the deal with Bleeding Heart Libertarianism

        1. Q Continuum

          It’s cosmo/progtarianism that loves virtue signaling and smelling its own farts.

          1. Winston

            I find a lot of the factional feuds rather wearisome. I’m also not fond of the Rothbardian libertarian vanguard or Raimondo’s “there are no enemies except the neocons”.

          2. Winston

            Or the left-libertarian “we are leftists because of some obscure Victorian guy called himself a socialist”.

          3. wdalasio

            Sorry, internal feuds are one thing. But, if you’re sitting around telling people that they should support the welfare state, you’re not, never have been, and never will be a libertarian. Period. Full stop. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. This isn’t even fucking debateable. And if you’re in that position and trying to dictate who is and isn’t legitimately a libertarian, fuck you. I don’t allow fucking progs to set the bounds of acceptable and unacceptable libertarianism.

    2. Q Continuum

      “Libertarians… stop opposing the welfare state”

      The welfare state is anathema to private property rights.
      Private property rights are a cornerstone of libertarian philosophy.

      It doesn’t really take Wile E. Coyote level intelligence to figure this one out.

    3. Winston

      I wonder how the turn the left libertarian will work. Didn’t work under Bush and the current left is increasingly anti-Free Speech so ally on social issues won’t work.

      So grow the state but not as much as the Corporate Democrats want? Is that it.

      1. Q Continuum

        It failed back then and it’ll fail even worse now. The alliance on “social issues” was illusory because the Left was and is always about control, not freedom. Hence, you go from gay marriage to Nazi wedding cakes. If the LP and the (I can’t believe I’m going to say this) “Libertarian establishment” want to throw their hat in with SJWs, Antifa, Fauxcahontas and Comrade Bernie, they can do it without my support.

        1. wdalasio

          Why don’t we just admit the blindingly fucking obvious. These guys aren’t libertarian and never were. Sure they were happy to make common cause with libertarians on Mexicans, pot and ass sex. And they were happy to align with libertarians as long as they were complaining about wars started by Republicans. But, when you pushed an alliance with the left, had it turn out disastrous for libertarians, and then push it again, it’s pretty clear that the well-being of libertarianism isn’t front and center in your value system.

    4. Winston

      I notice a lot of decentralism is bad cause of slavery and segregation. Never explained how the centralizers will want to be libertarian or how you will keep them libertarian.

    5. Winston

      On Cato they bemoan a lot about how the decline of gatekeepers and the elites gave us Trump. Never explained why we should trust those guys.

      Also a lot of bemoaning a low trust society. Problem is they don’t explain how to deal with people who don’t trust the government. And classical liberalism didn’t succeed because people trusted absolute monarchy.

    6. Winston

      A thing that really pisses me off is how these like to complain that libertarianism is basically for Plutocrats and angry white men.

      Um they are privileged white men. Also they defend said Plutocrats from Trump and angry white men all the time. Also how is the outreach with the minorities supposed to work? The “leaders” want free shit and that is one thing libertarians can’t compete along with being rich white men.

      1. Q Continuum

        Libertarianism is for anyone who gives a shit about individual liberty, private property rights and self-determination. There are lively intellectual debates to be had surrounding those topics and how they are applied to daily life and the nation/world at large. Beyond that, everything else is bullshit posturing, identity politics and good-feelz.

        1. Winston

          individual liberty, private property rights and self-determination.

          So five people? :p

          Also what I said about minority outreach is not a blanket statement about the unlibertarianism of those minorities or the libertarianism of white people but a general commentary on the difficulties of libertarians doing so.

  44. Derpetologist

    random thought

    Why are progs unhappy? Haven’t they gotten most of what they want?

    -gay marriage legalized
    -pot partially legalized
    -draft ended
    -racism practically extinct
    -abortion legalized
    -massive welfare system
    -progressive taxation
    -massive education spending

    And so on. Isn’t it enough?

    1. Q Continuum

      Their battle is more fundamental, it’s about taking down The Enlightenment.

      1. wdalasio

        ^^This^^ Entirely this.

    2. wdalasio

      The thing I’ve come to realize about progs is they aren’t about what they say they want. The particular issues are just a pretext. What they’re after is to rule. And preferably to rule in the most humiliating way possible for the ruled. They don’t want gays to be able to get married without being bothered by Christian fundamentalists. They want to force Christian fundamentalists to celebrate gay marriage. They don’t want people to be able to smoke pot unmolested. They want the guy who doesn’t smoke up to be ridiculed. They don’t want to end the draft. They want to draft you and your children into “public service”. They don’t want to end racism. They want to instill racism against bourgeois cis-hetero white men. They don’t want to tax people for the things they can buy with the tax dollars. They want to tax specifically for the act of taking things away from people. They don’t want massive spending to get quality education. They want massive spending to get indoctrination and terrible education.

      You’re misreading them because (I’m assuming) you’re a sane, reasonably well adjusted healthy individual. Sane, well-adjusted, healthy people seek their own happiness, a good life for themselves and their families. If you want to understand progressives, stop thinking like that. They don’t want the good for themselves. They want the bad for you. They’re broken people. And their fondest wish in life is to break others.

  45. Derpetologist

    two journos in a slap fight
    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/why-we-dont-like-hysterical-journalists

    ***
    One of the journalists criticized in the piece, Jason Wilson of The Guardian, has written to Current Affairs to strenuously object to the article’s characterization of his coverage. Wilson has now contacted me four times asking me to justify our magazine’s description of his work. On Aug. 18th, he wrote:

    Hi there,

    Just writing about the newly published Amber Frost article, which used my reporting to illustrate a “don’t”.

    … I’m just wondering, was Amber in Charlottesville? Has she covered many previous far right rallies? Just looking to clarify where and how she came to the conclusion that my reporting of higher level of organization there was sensational, “inaccurate”, and sublimative of reality.

    All the best

    Jason

    On Aug. 21st, Wilson re-sent the message, this time adding the following at the end:

    As you think about that, I’d also encourage you to consider the second sense of “rudiments” here, or to look it up the dictionary of your choice. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rudiment

    On Aug 22nd, Wilson wrote again:

    Hi Nathan,

    Any update on this question? Where and how did Amber decide that I was misrepresenting what happened in Charlottesville?

    All the best
    ***

    I’m not sure who to hate more. On a side note, Robinson’s use of American spellings is puzzling given his “British” accent.

    1. Derpetologist

      ***
      Consider the SPLC’s hate group map. It shows 917 hate groups in America. That’s a lot! (Of course it includes “black separatists,” thereby lumping Nazis in with leftists just like Donald Trump, but let’s leave that aside.)
      ***

      [head desk]

  46. Akira

    OT: I’m surprised that no statists have tried to say that Houston’s flood problems are due to their total lack of zoning laws.