Tuesday Afternoon Links

Tuesday. I destroyed my phone today. It looked like the Bengals offense. Fuck Tuesday.

Florida Man arrested after machete fight. Hopefully, life will slow down enough for me to write some more of those one day.

Urban Meyer kills 2. I am a horrible person, but Sloopy needed to be put in his place.

Why today’s teens are growing up more slowly than they used to. I’m going with “discontinuing growth hormones in the food supply”. (Link bad, fixed.)

Trump threatens NK with destruction at UN. No word on whether he pounded his shoe on the desk.

All I got to say today is “how, how, how”

Comments

479 responses to “Tuesday Afternoon Links”

  1. Chipwooder

    Countdown to Urban Meyer’s next bout of “heart trouble” started yet?

    1. Hardy har har. He’s still only lost 7 games in 5+ seasons. And won a national championship.

      1. Brett L

        He only lost 9 games in 5 years in the SEC, where there aren’t 8 cupcakes on the schedule, before he got heart problems. Then it was all his guys.

        1. Yeah, yeah. But his dream job was opening up while he was in Gainesville. That’s not gonna happen again.

        2. An he was in the SEC East. That’s loaded with cupcakes. Plus 2 or 3 of their non-conference games are gonna be slapdicks.
          The SEC East is hot garbage compared to the Big Ten East. They just all start the season out overrated.

          1. Dude, I’m finally feeling a bit better. Don’t get me fired up again.

  2. invisible finger

    No link for teens article.

    We know the answer is “socialism” so no need to fix.

    1. Brett L

      Shit. I’ll never find that article again.

        1. +1 Jimmy Webb’s best song?

    2. Damn, I was going to crack a joke about that.

      (Cool link, Brett.)

    3. Just Say’n

      Hey- I said ‘socialism’ too. Is there anything that isn’t socialism’s fault?

      1. MikeS

        Socialism is the new climate change?

        1. Just Say’n

          Climate change created socialism?

          1. Enough About Palin

            No, socialism created climate change.. All that Soviet heavy industry and whatnot.

  3. Vhyrus

    Possibly missing a link there buddy?

    1. Slammer

      STEVE SMITH MISSING LINK BETWEEN RAPE-GOD AND MAN

      1. AlexinCT

        Does he mean his appendage when he mentions link?

  4. Juvenile Bluster

    Can we talk about how horrible the New York Giants offensive line is? No? Too bad.

    Eli’s going to be dead before the season’s done. Either by the Eagles d-line or by one of the AFC West d-lines.

    1. Just Say’n

      Can we talk about the fact that Eli Manning is the lesser Manning of the family? Was Archie drinking when Eli was conceived?

      1. AlexinCT

        Snorting coke off a male prostitute’s back…

        1. Just Say’n

          That would explain it.

        2. jesse.in.mb

          Snorting coke off a male prostitute’s back…

          Back? Was he too cheap to spring for the 9″ schlong and problematic relationship with viagara and amphetamines model?

          1. AlexinCT

            You got me there Jesse.. who knows what makes people tick these days..

          2. Zunalter

            do you buy male prostitutes by the inch?

          3. Zunalter

            asking for a friend.

          4. jesse.in.mb

            Personally? No. Were I to hire a sex worker, I’d be wary of member size as a selling point just because so many of them seem to be straight guys with a huge dick who think someone should pay them for the privilege of sucking such a fantastically large penis and there aren’t a ton of women hiring.

          5. Was it Fred Garvin?

    2. Slammer

      Ereck Flowers LMFAO. Big dummy

    3. Pope Jimbo

      Pfft. 2016 Vikings fans laugh at your whinging about an O-line.

      If Sam Bradford lived through 2016, Eli will be fine.

      1. Chipwooder

        Except that Eli has the mobility of a hickory tree

        1. Pope Jimbo

          And Sam Bradford is a speedy gazelle?

          1. Brett L

            I think Sam “Glass Knees” Bradford has one more game this season, maybe.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        Whining? I’m fucking ecstatic.

        Long and Cox are gonna have themselves one hell of a game next week.

        1. Chipwooder

          Perhaps….but the Eagles will still never win a motherfucking thing, ever.

          1. Juvenile Bluster

            The only reason I can give for remaining a fan of Philly teams after moving down to Florida (even remaining a Sixers fan during the LeBron era) is pure masochism.

        2. Private Chipperbot

          No one’s going to hop on Long and Cox? For shame glibs…

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            My thoughts as well, but my Humor only goes so far

          2. pan fried wylie

            it’s a hard on(e), but I for one am pumped to receive such a pressing solicitation.

          3. I would, but my anus doesn’t need the workout.

        3. Chipping Pioneer

          *snicker*

          Long… Cox…

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      I can’t believe Eli has not one but TWO Super Bowls.

      I’ve never seen a QB float so many balls THAT GET CAUGHT as he’s being taken down.

      The Eagles have a good pass rush and speed on defence. Watch out.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        My son loves to tell me how wonderful Eli is. I think he mostly does it to get my goat, but he does make lots of good points.

        Eli chaps my hide because of all those lucky catches that his receivers make (ball trapped against a helmet, anyone?). If his last name wasn’t Manning, would he get that much press? I don’t think so, but he does win a lot of games somehow.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Part of the reason he gets a lot of press because he plays for the Giants. The press loves everything NY, even when they actually play in NJ.

      2. Hyperion

        “The Eagles have a good pass rush and speed on defence. Watch out.”

        And a midget who fumbles away games.

    5. Count Potato

      I’m more concerned about a lack of a running game, than Eli getting sacked.

  5. Just Say’n

    “Why today’s teens are growing up more slowly than they used to.”

    Is this rhetorical?

    I’m going to guess ‘socialism’

  6. Pope Jimbo

    An old Sioux chief would always greet visitors to his tourist trap store in Medora, ND by saying “Chance”.

    One day a young pretty tourist asked him, “I thought indians said ‘How’ when meeting people. Why do you say ‘chance’?”

    The chief looked at her and said, “I know how, I just need chance”

    1. MikeS

      That’s how my parents met!

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Hah, now that I know you have native blood, I can dox you!

        How are you doing Two Dogs Fucking?

        1. MikeS

          *makes note to offer ceremonial tomahawk as “gift” to Jimbo

        2. AlexinCT

          I once met a native called Broken Rubber that told me the whole story of how natives decide what to call their kids..

          1. pan fried wylie

            “Dad helped mom with a flat tire and the rest, as they say, is history.”

    1. grrizzly

      “I started reaching out to people who are patriots and who are not necessarily of my political stripe,” Reiner said of his collaboration with Boot and others on the Committee to Investigate Russia. “We’re all together in this. Out country was attacked. Democracy is on the brink.”

      Just like Pearl Harbor.

      1. invisible finger

        I understand method acting, but someone should tell Reiner that there will never be a sequel to All In The Family.

        1. Mad Scientist

          He just wants to turn the rhetoric up to 11.

      2. Did they get any Isreali officials on record about Obama using taxpayer money to fuck with their elections?

        1. AlexinCT

          Apparently, if we go by the latest wiretapping reports, that was not the only election team Obama used tax payer money to fuck with….

        2. That’s different, because I trust Obama. /actual response a prog gave me to that question

          1. AlexinCT

            Which is why they are so pissed Hillary didn’t win. Because now that government is all set up to be super tyrannical, Trump is in charge..

        3. Stinky Wizzleteats

          It’s cute when we do it.

      3. Number.6

        The very same Reiner who was planning to destroy the world, as a Friend Of Carlotta, in Dead men Don’t Wear Plaid.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          +1 Heinermacherfrau

          1. Number.6

            Rachael Ward. Mmmmmmmm,

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I think her breasts are all out of whack again. They need adjusting.

    2. Ed Wuncler

      Are these assholes really saying that we are at war with the Russians?

      “Actor Morgan Freeman has also backed the group, appearing in a promotional video proclaiming “we are at war” with Russia.”

      Yep. They want us to get into a conflict with Russia simply because they didn’t get the electoral result that they wanted. And the crazy part is that if Trump was dumb enough to fall for their trap, and went to war with Russia, these same assholes would vehemently condemn for doing so.

      1. Somebody need to tell these cunts that the First Amendment applies to everybody within our jurisdiction. That means those sneaky Russians were legally buying those ads and posting those things on the internet that nobody seems to be able to actually provide evidence if.

        1. Dr Mossy Lawn

          I was about to say something snarky about Obama’s call to Macron when he was still a candidate, we watched his election documentary last night and my wife (French) pays peripheral attention to what is going on in France.

          At least Obama was no longer a sitting head of state, and does have (In the US) freedom of speech to support foreign candidates.

      2. AlexinCT

        Are these assholes really saying that we are at war with the Russians?

        I still remember when these morons made fun of everyone that pointed out the USSR or Russia were bad characters because of their totalitarian agenda (remember the red scare jokes, anyone?), and constantly defended the evil done in the name of international socialism. Now that the female crime syndicate capo they foisted on us lost the election, and the Obama admin to no small extend needs to divert attention of their actions to try to steal the election for her, its all Russia is bad!. With these people it is always about the end goal, which in this case is to annul an election they thought was already in the bag for them.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Remember when liberals loved Soviet communism?

          1. Zunalter

            That was before they implemented a flat tax.

            That’s when they knew Russia was e-ville.

          2. In Soviet Union, election corrupts *you.*

        2. grrizzly

          Without the RUSSIA!!! excuse, the Obama administration was simply spying on the domestic political opponents using the intelligence apparatus like any third-world dictator would have done in a banana republic. It’s either “Russia attacked our Democracy” or Obama’s Watergate (actually times 10 the Nixon original).

          1. Ed Wuncler

            And if the media weren’t pieces of shit, the President would be investigated for this nonsense.

          2. AlexinCT

            The thing is that I fully believe Obama and Clinton will not end up in trouble. Republicans will go along with this shit because they figure there will someday be a tit for tat, since they helped another insider. Boy are they going to be surprised when the left then crucifies these fucks for doing much less. Nixon phoned in from the grave and says he wands a mulligan after he saw what Obama and Clinton got away with, BTW.

          3. Rufus the Monocled

            This.

            They managed to make a distraction into a war cry.

            Fucken retards.

      3. Yusef drives a Kia

        Well they don’t mean WAR war just war, see?

      4. Hyperion

        Interestingly enough, the only thing that was really provocative in a while I’ve seen Russia do, was when they shot down that commercial airliner over the Ukraine. If indeed they did it, and I think they at least gave the Ukranians the the equipment to do it with, or even assisted. And what did Odumbo do? Exactly nothing, not even a fake red line. And that actually killed a bunch of innocent people, not quite the same as a bunch of made up bullshit about Russian hacking, which didn’t hurt anything except for proggy rear ends.

    3. Drake

      They’re like retarded superheroes.

    4. Just Say’n

      The kicker:

      “Reiner recently wrapped up production on Shock And Awe, a movie about a group of skeptical journalists investigating the George W. Bush administration’s claims about weapons of mass destruction in the run-up to the Iraq War. Premiering Sept. 30, the movie is an examination of what Reiner says was the failure of the mainstream media to question conventional Washington wisdom about Saddam Hussein’s intentions and capabilities.”

      Irony is dead

      1. Ed Wuncler

        Where was this attitude for the past 8 years? All these assholes who constantly cry about Trump’s injustices were largely silent during the Obama Administration when he was murder droning brown people and shitting all over our civil liberties. Instead of calling him out, they licked his ball and groveled at his every word.

        1. Just Say’n

          Well, in his defense, Reiner was probably hitting a lot buffets at the time and didn’t have time to pay attention to the news. He trusted his ‘woke’ messiah

        2. invisible finger

          Obama had his hands tied with those nasty Bush policies he couldn’t stop.

        3. invisible finger

          How could Reiner give a damn about foreign countries when he was busy starting a War On Tobacco and trying to keep 3 year olds from the grabbing hands of private pre-school operators.

        4. AlexinCT

          When you guy does the tyrannical shit it is all cool! That’s why.

          As I pointed out before: the left is pissed today that the 8 Obama years was used to weaponize the US government, for Hillary, only to end up with Trump at the helm..

        5. Hyperion

          Well, we were wrong about the left turning back into neocon war mongers as soon as the Butcher of Benghazi was crowned queen forever. Trump won and they still did it.

        6. Ball? Singular?

          Know who else only had one ball?

          1. trshmnstr

            The Jaffa?

      2. trshmnstr

        a group of skeptical journalists investigating the George W. Bush administration’s claims about weapons of mass destruction in the run-up to the Iraq War.

        According to my former weapons inspector neighbor, the question isn’t whether Iraq had WMDs, but whether the Syrians turned the Iraqi WMDs over to the international regulators or whether they turned over their own stockpile and used the Iraqi stockpile on their citizens.

        1. Just Say’n

          I’ve heard that before. Regardless, the media cheer leading for that war was beyond stupid- WMDs or not

          1. trshmnstr

            Agreed. Stupid war, stupid premise, just all around stupid.

        2. invisible finger

          If their citizens were al qaeda/isis types – you know, the middle eastern version of Rob Reiner – then maybe they had a point.

        3. Gray Ghost

          Of course the Iraqis had WMDs. They aren’t hard to make, if you’re a nation-state, or moderately wealthy cult (Aummmmmmm).

          US troops found quite a few chemical weapons caches. Said caches were usually destroyed in place, and any embarrassing country-of-origin tags (France, Germany) on the chemical precursors went up in smoke with the organophosphates.

          Whatever nuclear equipment or weaponizable fissile material he had got blown up too. Or carted over to Syria, where, if it was in that ‘box on the Euphrates’, it also got blown up. By the Israelis.

          I guess some of the nuclear stuff could have joined some of his Air Force that ran to Iran.

          1. I still think it’s a mistake to classify chemical weapons as “WMDs” in the same league as nukes and bioweapons. Yeah, chems are nasty, especially against civilian targets, and a really sucky way to die, but they simply don’t have nearly the same destructive power as nukes or mass killing and spread potential of a good bioweapon. Treating them as if they are equivalent seems to be disingenuous to me.

          2. Number.6

            One of the underlying principles of the WMD categorization is that they are indiscriminate, not their magnitude – which is of course rather odd, given the words that give rise to the acronym. Within the military, the emotion is taken out of the term, and replaced with ‘NBC’, ‘CBN’ or some other more descriptive term for the weapons.

            Much as “Cruel and Unusual Punishment” doesn’t include having a cocktail of drugs injected into you when you’re executed, but does include time-honored and well-established methods like hanging, drawing and quartering.

            What constitutes ‘mass destruction’ depends very much on the speaker’s biases and preferences.

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            My CBN trained Dad would disagree, if he were living

          4. jesse.in.mb

            Christian Broadcast Network takes another life.

          5. Brett L

            Imagine if you will modern computer guided artillery and chemical weapons. For the price of a couple of cruise missiles, you could kill more people than a nuke.

      3. It will make jack shit at the box office because these dickfarts put their beliefs ahead of profits.

    5. Chipwooder

      Funny how much more popular conflict with Russia is with leftists now than back during the Cold War.

      1. Just Say’n

        Oh, but the Soviets meant well. Putin isn’t ‘woke’ like Khrushchev was

        1. AlexinCT

          I bet that they would love him long time again if they could fulfill their fantasy to oust Trump…

          1. Just Say’n

            Oh yeah. They’re all a bunch of socialist apologists

      2. Psycho Effer

        It’s because the Russians are “state capitalists” now, rather than comrades in the class struggle.

    6. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s tarded.

    7. Ah yes, drawing on the well known nuanced and foreign policy expertise of actors.

      https://youtu.be/qOH9trJLedk

    8. Apples and Knives

      Meathead’s gonna meathead.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        He needs to stifle his cakehole.

        1. PBRstreetgang

          “OOOOHHH Archie!!!”

    9. Just Say’n

      Let’s not forget that TOS was pushing trade sanctions on Russia because of ‘feelz’. With non-interventionists like that, how can you not expect this spectacle of stupid to be taken seriously

  7. The Late P Brooks

    Why today’s teens are growing up more slowly than they used to.

    I blame degreed educators and the public school system. What, they didn’t mean *that kind of “retarded”*?

  8. Juvenile Bluster

    Earthquake in Mexico City today, on the anniversary of the 1985 earthquake.

    I blame global warming. Aren’t people blaming earthquakes on global warming now?

    1. It’s “Climate Change” JB. And yes, that is to blame, more specifically SNP Trump pulling out of the Paris Accords maybe.

      1. Gray Ghost

        It doesn’t look good. https://mobile.twitter.com/ninjaciego/status/910224493284675584 Tweet is of building collapsing, at about 20 seconds of the 29 second video.

        Amazing how fast it collapsed. And the epicenter was about 80 miles away. Much closer to Puebla, which is probably proper fucked.

        I wouldn’t be surprised to hear of an eventual death toll in the thousands.

        1. invisible finger

          Don;t be ridiculous. It was just an earthquake, not a city bus accident.

        2. Juvenile Bluster

          Holy shit.

        3. Psycho Effer

          I hope that building was abandoned. Occupants would have no chance of getting out when it goes down that fast.

        4. invisible finger

          Trump terrorists collapsed that building.

          The Debris will be used to build the wall.

        5. Hyperion

          Look, 2 tropical storms not too far from Mexico in the past month. 2 earthquakes in that time? Coincidence? I think not, deniers!

          You can no longer say that climate change doesn’t cause earthquakes, deniers! That’s the facts! SCIENCE!

          Seriously, I wonder if the city is unstable because of being built on top of a lake on top of ruins of the old Aztec city?

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            There is an active volcano nearby.

          2. Hyperion

            I know about that. I was just wondering if the ground may have increased the damage.

          3. Mythical Libertarian Woman

            “Due to overdrafting that is depleting the aquifer beneath the city, Mexico City is estimated to have dropped 10 meters in the last century. Furthermore, because soft lake sediments underlie most of Mexico City, the city has proven vulnerable to soil liquefaction during earthquakes, most notably in the 1985 earthquake when hundreds of buildings collapsed and thousands of lives were lost.”

            From Wikipedia.

    2. Hyperion

      This is only because white devils destabilized the floating island that Mexico City (Tenochtitlan) was built on. The Aztecs had built a sophisticated system of hydraulic buoys in the lake which protected the city against earthquakes… and global warming. But white devil thought they were demon gods so destroyed them all.

  9. All I got to say today is “how, how, how”

    More do you like it?

      1. A chicky down?

    1. I heard this song in an entirely separate context today on sports radio.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    Aren’t people blaming earthquakes on global warming now?

    The correct response is “fracking”. Come on, dude, keep your panics straight.

  11. LJW

    “Why today’s teens are growing up more slowly than they used to. I’m going with “discontinuing growth hormones in the food supply”.”

    Based on a scientific formula I made up for this comment. By the time I am 75 I’m going to be yelling “get off my lawn” at 35 year olds.

    1. I missed out on the excess hormone effects on the young female era. Sigh.

  12. Pope Jimbo

    James Clapper, paragon of honesty!

    TODD: Yeah, I was just going to say, if the F.B.I., for instance, had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance, would that be information you would know or not know?

    CLAPPER: Yes.

    TODD: You would be told this?

    CLAPPER: I would know that.

    TODD: If there was a FISA court order–

    CLAPPER: Yes.

    TODD: –on something like this.

    CLAPPER: Something like this, absolutely.

    TODD: And at this point, you can’t confirm or deny whether that exists?

    CLAPPER: I can deny it.

    1. Just Say’n

      Who would have thought that a noted liar would lie?

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      Was he rubbing his forehead while saying these words?

      1. Drake

        I so want to play poker with that fucker.

      2. Count Potato

        These euphemisms…

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Why would anyone believe a single word that comes out of that fucker’s piehole?

      1. Because he says mean things about Trump. Principals, not principles.

    4. tarran

      If I were POTUS, I would recall Clapper to active duty, and have him prosecuted for perjury:

      931. ARTICLE 131. PERJURY
      10. Punitive Articles
      Any person subject to this chapter who in a judicial proceeding or in a course of justice willfully and corruptly–
      (1) upon a lawful oath or in a form allowed by law to be substituted for an oath, gives any false testimony material to the issue or matter of inquiry; or
      (2) in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty or perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, subscribes any false statement material to the issue or matter of inquiry;
      is guilty of perjury and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

  13. Rufus the Monocled

    “I don’t know that the public understands the gravity of what the Russians were able to do and continue to do here in the United States. They attacked us,” Reiner said during an appearance with Frum on CNN’s “New Day” on Tuesday.”

    Fucken Meathead.

    1. You’ve been Reinered!!!

    2. Just Say’n

      That fat bastard is trying to instigate a war, because he’s butt hurt over an election.

      1. Raven Nation

        “because he’s butt hurt over an election”

        Reiner’s never struck me as being particularly bright. He probably truly believes Russia changed the election results.

    3. invisible finger

      Apparently they attacked us 50 years ago and turned Hollywood actors into socialist zombies.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      “I don’t know that the public understands”

      Go. Fuck. Yourself.

      Pompous cocksucking ass.

  14. Florida man ain’t got shit on … Indonesia man!!!

      1. Just Say’n

        “Power was restored within the hour”

        1. Gray Ghost

          Noiiice.

          Cuter than you’d think after a pancreas and kidney transplant. More of a sense of humor, too. Good for her.

          1. Number.6

            She’s worked hard maintaining that bod, for a 36-year old.

      2. Apples and Knives

        Holy crap, she just had a pancreas and kidney transplant?

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Hey, you pass out at a party in Florida and shit happens. No JV writing on your forehead with markers either.

          That is why meth is so popular there. No passing out and losing organs.

          1. jesse.in.mb

            Think about how much slimmer you’d look without those bulky organs jumbled into your abdominal cavity.

            #BetterLivingThroughSurgery

      3. Number.6

        Once all her scars healed up, sure.

      4. Count Potato

        “Just two weeks ago, she received a double organ transplant of her pancreas and a kidney.”

        Wow. Although it looks like that wasn’t the first time she had surgery.

        1. pan fried wylie

          two pancreaii is just greedy.

      5. bacon-magic

        I’d give her the shocker.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Rookie mistakes like making claims that are easily falsifiable is why that dude is a shaman and not a Pope.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        Never buy your own hype.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          ::sigh:: Who else is gonna buy my hype?

          1. jesse.in.mb

            People left disillusioned by the religion of their birth by traumatic childhood events and co-eds with daddy issues and little sense, I presume.

          2. Number.6

            Strippers and hookers might.

            Not that I’d know for sure.

          3. Number.6

            Oh, Jesse beat me to it.

          4. Emmerson Biggins

            Bazinga.

    2. The Other Kevin

      How do we know he didn’t command them to attack him? We don’t, do we?

    3. RBS

      + 1 Timothy Treadwell

    4. Hyperion

      He pulled a Steve Irwin.

        1. Emmerson Biggins

          Nevaa do this.

        2. NOT a Naked Intruder

          Crikey!

          Crockey!

  15. J. Frank Parnell

    I snarked on Megan McArdle a bit yesterday for doing some ‘to be sure’ing in her Atlantic article on Antifa, so in fairness here she is going after antifa and defending free speech on twitter.

    Look, you want to defend antifa? Say “I don’t believe in free speech, and I’m okay with violence against unarmed civilians I disagree with”

    Don’t tell me that they’re actually the Red Cross. Don’t point at the folks on the other side. Don’t give me word salad about oppression.

    Just say “It is all right to attack unarmed civilians for political ends, if the ends are just.”

    Otherwise all you’re really saying is “I have no principles except ‘My tribe good, other tribe bad’”

    “My tribe good, other tribe bad” is, of course, a very common political philosophy in most of the world.

    Unfortunately, it makes it rather hard to live in any social group larger than a tribe.

    1. Just Say’n

      McArdle is a better civil libertarian than half the staff at Reason or CATO.

    2. J. Frank Parnell

      Poe’s Law! Get yer fresh hot Poe’s Law right here!

      Todd Kimball‏
      @tkimball
      Replying to @asymmetricinfo
      Your logic falls apart when you take into account the fact that fascists are armed with hate, which is a powerful weapon.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        In other news, Todd Kimball is tarded.

        1. Chipwooder

          That’s the most charitable way to put it, really.

        2. AlexinCT

          Does he also sound like a fag?

      2. Psycho Effer

        There’s no arguing with these people. They don’t even understand the concept of arguing in good faith.

      3. Just Say’n

        I sincerely cannot believe that there is a human adult stupid enough to say such a childish thing.

        1. invisible finger

          Teems grow up more slowly than they used to.

          1. Just Say’n

            Oh yeah, it all circles back to the links. Good job Brett

      4. Ed Wuncler

        So I can punch a communist in the face because they are advocating for an ideology that killed millions? According to his logic, I absolutely could.

        1. thepasswordispassword

          See it’s ok though, because the Communists weren’t armed with hate when they killed people. They were armed with the glorious peoples Kalashnikov of love and understanding.

      5. So obviously we need to counter with the power of love, unicorns, and rainbows. And by that I mean bike locks, violent suppression of speech, and punishing the cis-hetero white males for their patriarchal oppression.

      6. The Last American Hero

        What is he, fucking Yoda?

        Strong the hate is, a powerful weapon can it be.

        1. trshmnstr

          What is he, fucking Yoda?

          “mmmm, cum I’m going to”

    3. Ed Wuncler

      I know that some people here aren’t huge fans of hers and while I do disagree with some of her conclusions, I’ve always enjoyed her writing. I wished that she would go a little harder on the Left but I find her writing better than some of the journalists at Reason.

      1. Sour Kraut

        some people here

        I would say the leading proponent of this view is no longer here.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          -1 mind reader

      2. Count Potato

        Even though she can be a bit too verbose, she is a good writer.

      3. Pan Zagloba

        I like her and read her for years before she led me to Reason through a link to Mr. McArdle’s article. Who says nepotism is always bad?

        Also, it made me respect Suderman a lot to see he managed to snag a woman way out of his league, at least intellectually.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Holy shit, the responses are full blown totalitarian.

      1. Ed Wuncler

        She’s holding her fucking own though. I respect her a lot more after reading her twitter and the responses to the authoritarian bullshit.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Marnanel Thurman @marnanel
          ·
          22h
          Replying to @asymmetricinfo
          “I don’t believe in free speech advocating fascism, and I’m okay with violence against unarmed civilians actively promoting fascism.” Okay?

          1. “I support free speech, unless it’s about something I don’t like, in which case it should be violently repressed.”

          2. Count Potato

            And who was actively promoting fascism?

          3. Brett L

            I assume the 3 neo-Nazis who made it through Mein Kampf. The rest just mostly want to have a strong man of color show them some rough trade without feeling ashamed.

          4. Number.6

            +1 Milo then …

          5. Brett L

            I don’t think he’s an idiot, but I’m not sure he made the slog through Mein Kampf, either, since he was never really a Hitlerian.

          6. Ed Wuncler

            Until they start to hit back. That’s what these assholes never consider. For one thing, this sort of viewpoint could be used in the future against them. Someone can say that advocating socialism/communism is violence and therefore they should get the shit slapped out of them with a bike lock.

          7. Hyperion

            I’m not an advocate for people getting the shit kicked out of them, but when some of these idiots ‘inevitably’ run into that situation, I’m going to be at least mildly amused by it.

      2. Slammer

        On Twitter I usually read 4 or 5 responses then get the fuck out. Regardless of the initial tweet

    5. The Other Kevin

      1975 – I may not agree with everything you say, but I’ll fight like hell for your right to say it.
      2017 – I may not agree with everything you say, so I’ll hit you with a bike lock and throw urine on you.

      1. AlexinCT

        Same people, different narrative to peddle?

        1. I read an article on FEE about the triumph and betrayal of classical liberalism. The esssence was that party out of power either politically or culturally tends to be more vocal in supporting freedom, because they’d rather the government stay out of an issue they’re passionate about than get involved on the wrong side. However, as soon as those same parties get a foothold, suddenly they want to reduce freedom and impose their own beliefs on others. Those people were never for freedom of speech, it’s just that they knew what they were saying was unpopular at the time and wanted protection for saying it (see early ACLU mission statement) and once it got popular they want to crush any dissent.

          1. Microaggressor

            Interesting how that didn’t flip when Donald got elected. Reveals the true nature of the power dynamic.

          2. grrizzly

            The Dems/Left haven’t internalized yet that they are out of power. They firmly control various institutions, such as academia, media, big corporations, etc., so they don’t think their own freedom is in danger. Plus the Republicans haven’t done much of anything yet with their power.

          3. Hyperion

            The classical liberals are still here, they’re just called libertarians now.

          4. Somalian Road Corporation

            I’m rather annoyed at the minor fad of socialists rejecting identity politics (Sargon) calling themselves “classical liberals” because it sounds cool. It’s Maher and other “libertarians” around 2004 all over again.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Well, this season. But the Vikes own all time hit

    2. Slammer

      Haha she was ineligible downfield

      1. Hyperion

        15 yards, roughing the pussy!

    3. MikeS

      It appears to be a ginger that he ran over. I wonder if she let him say good-bye to his soul before she devoured it?

  16. Count Potato

    “New study: White people lack empathy across the socioeconomic spectrum

    Since the election of Donald Trump….”

    That’s when I stopped reading.

    http://www.salon.com/2017/09/19/new-study-white-people-lack-empathy-across-the-socioeconomic-spectrum/

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I stoped when I saw it was a link to Salon.

    2. PBRstreetgang

      I stopped reading at “salon” in the URL

    3. Psycho Effer

      “www.salon.com…” and then I didn’t click on the link.

        1. Psycho Effer

          So much derp in one photo! I can’t handle that shit! I leave Salon to CP and Derpetologist.

        2. I bet 85% of those stories are written by whiteys.

    4. Emmerson Biggins

      Oh I can empathize with wanting the government to be in charge of stealing from icky races and giving to me. Its perfectly natural, if base, human impulse.

      I just try not to let those impulses govern my behaviour.

    5. Hyperion

      People have empathy towards their family and other people they feel close to. After that, empathy drops off sharply. What keeps people civil is not empathy, it’s just adherence to social order that’s been learned over thousands of years. No amount of social signaling changes that. I can social signal all fucking day about how much more empathy I have than other people. That would only make me a liar. Unless you’re a sociopath, like a lot of politicians, you have empathy to a certain degree as well as a built in acceptance for polite society. Antifa and the left are behaving more like chimpanzees than any modern humans. You cannot go around screeching about empathy while advocating violence against anyone who disagrees with you. You can, but it makes most people aware that you are deranged and not to be trusted.

      1. I’m a libertarian precisely because I don’t care about most people.

        Most people find that position ghastly.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Shocking undercover expozay! Swedish activist infiltrates the alt-right to learn their evil secrets.

    The extreme alt-right are benefiting immensely from the energy being produced by a more moderate — but still far-right — faction known as the “alt-light.”

    The alt-light promotes a slightly softer set of messages. Its figures — such as Milo Yiannopoulos, Paul Joseph Watson and Mike Cernovich — generally frame their work as part of an effort to defend “the West” or “Western culture” against supposed left-liberal dominance, rather than making explicitly racist appeals. Many of them, in fact, have renounced explicit racism and anti-Semitism, though they will creep up to the line of explicitly racist speech, especially when Islam and immigration are concerned.

    This apparent moderation partly explains why they tend to have much bigger online audiences than even the most important alt-right figures — and why Hope Not Hate describes them as “less extreme, more dangerous.” Alt-light sites like Breitbart, formerly home to Mr. Yiannopoulos, as well as Prison Planet, where Mr. Watson is editor at large, draw millions of readers and are key nodes in a hyperkinetic network that is endlessly broadcasting viral-friendly far-right news, rumors and incitement.

    Fluent in the language of online irony and absurdism, and adept at producing successful memes, alt-lighters have pulled off something remarkable: They’ve made far-right ideas hip to a subset of young people, and framed themselves as society’s forgotten underdogs. The alt-light provides its audience easy scapegoats for their social, economic and sexual frustrations: liberals and feminists and migrants and, of course, globalists.

    The “alt-light”; they’re like a smiley-face-Hitler brigade.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      They’re the Luftwaffe to Spencer’s SS.

    2. I can’t help but view this through the lens of trshmnstr’s earlier article about setting the overton window. They are desparately trying to frame anyone to the right of McCain as secret Nazis, even when these people are supporting free speech and more limited government in sharp contrast to the socialist alt-right (seriously, if the alt-right was for any race other than white people they would be warmly welcomed into the lefty fold.)

      1. AlexinCT

        If you support anything that the international socialists don’t like, you are a a Nazi.

        1. Emmerson Biggins

          Good one.

    3. Microaggressor

      Racism against Islam is so problematic. Thanks, NYT.

    4. Sour Kraut

      incitement.

      Of course they worked in the word incitement. Progs now see this word as the legal gateway to using violence against anyone who doesn’t share their views.

    5. Gilmore

      I read the entire article and couldn’t find a single thing being “exposed”, other than “weird guys say weird stuff that sorta sounds racist”.

      Oh, and the obligatory “and Milo and Gavin!!”-accusations without any citation as to why. Anytime anyone mentions the “Real Racists”, the ‘not really racist’ people need to be mentioned as well. Because that’s the point: everyone not-prog is equally guilty.

    6. Somalian Road Corporation

      Somebody at NYT read “Extremism: The Art of Smearing” and used it as a guide, I see. What a bunch of rhetorical smoke and vague handwavery.

    1. Count Potato

      “That put them in the same class of narcotics as ketamine and Valium.”

      Because science?

      1. Q Continuum

        The DEA fucking loves science more than anyone else!

    2. Hyperion

      The USA is the only county in the world that has basically outlawed testosterone use without a doctor’s prescription. Joe Biden in the scumbag to blame for this. The law is based on as much bullshit as reefer madness. It’s actually worse, because it’s a fucking hormone, not even a drug. How the fuck can you put a hormone on a schedule? Ask Joe Biden. Why isn’t estrogen banned? I’m worried about toxic estrogen.

      1. Q Continuum

        DMT is endogenous and schedule 1. We should all be in jail.

        1. Count Potato

          So is GHB. But it’s also schedule 3 at the same time. This shit isn’t based on logical consistency.

      2. Count Potato

        As far as I can tell, most naturally occurring hormones, neurotransmitters, etc. require a prescription, including estrogen. GHB and dopamine are scheduled as well. Unlike many other countries, epinephrine and birth control pills require a prescription.

        1. Hyperion

          Estrogen does not require a prescription in effect, because it’s not scheduled and you don’t have any worries about carrying it around, unlike test.

          1. RBS

            It is also a lot easier for a woman to get prescription for estrogen/other hormones (even testosterone) than for a man to get a prescription for testosterone.

          2. Hyperion

            Toxic masculinity you know.

          3. Hyperion

            Also, many people, sadly enough, even many doctors would never give a woman testosterone, somehow believing it is harmful to women and unnecessary. Older women with low T levels are of course more at risk from osteoporosis and mood swings, etc. Also, it’s obviously no where near as dangerous as estrogen when stupid doctors here just give it to women without ever checking their levels, which could increase cancer risks. Of course in the the event that a man wants to be woman, then all of those risks magically disappear. Same with women who want to become a man, then suddenly T is the bestest thing ever created with no risk. I fucking hate politicians with the passion of a million burning suns.

  18. Count Potato

    “A schoolgirl who sent topless photos of herself to an online paedophile has been told by the police she could face criminal charges. The 12-year-old girl was groomed by the online predator after being targeted on Instagram. The pervert demanded more and more explicit pictures and she relented before her family reported the police about the inappropriate contact.”

    http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/17/schoolgirl-12-told-she-could-face-charges-after-sending-pictures-to-paedophile-6934737/

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s tarded

    2. Q Continuum

      Well, she should have known better. Lock her up with a lifetime offender registry requirement.

      /sarc

    3. Brett L

      The state of Washington similarly believes that minors are criminals for being convinced to take pictures of themselves.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      That is why it is so important to verify who it is that you are really chatting with on the internet.

      That creep lied to her and told her that he was a muslim Pakistani guy. She trusted him and was sure that there was no way she’d get in trouble for sending him nudies.

      Turns out he was just a white pervert and now the po-po are all up in her grill.

      1. Q Continuum

        Ouch.

      2. Brett L

        Winner. Close it down.

    5. Hyperion

      Fuck, people push for these kinds of laws and then are shocked when they are actually enforced. I guess they think it’s like a feelgood detective TV show where the cops are always the good guys who make snap decisions on who to prosecute and who to not? It’s like ‘Oh, it’s ok that Obama made this law to spy on all Americans, because he’d never do that you know’. /durrr

    6. UK. Subjects, not citizens.

  19. Count Potato

    “Fluoride exposure in utero linked to lower IQ in kids, study says”

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/19/health/fluoride-iq-neurotoxin-study/index.html

    IT’S GOING TO TURN THE FRIGGIN’ FROGS GAY!!

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Rainwater and grain alcohol Mandrake.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Fluoride was interpreted by my dyslexia as “Florida”. I spent quite a bit of time wondering why people would be surprised that exposure to Florida would lower IQs.

    3. Did a quick glance through the study, and there are a few reasons to be skeptical. Though they controlled for mothers with various diseases, for the urine analysis itself they were only testing for the presence or absence of fluoride. By the study’s own admission, because fluoride is not naturally added to the Mexican public water supply it would have to be introduced “through the consumption of naturally contaminated drinking water, dietary sources, dental products, and other sources.” Since the mothers tested were exclusively of low to moderate income, it’s entirely possible that circumstances that may lead them to be more likely to drink “contaminated” water may also be likely to introduce other complicating factors. Don’t have time to look through the IQ evaluation right now and not saying the study isn’t correct, but it’s also not as conclusive as the most trusted name in news would habe you believe.

  20. Rufus the Monocled

    Soooo, when Romney said Russia was a threat and that idiot he was debating mocked him what did Meathead think then?

    THINGS CHANGE!

    It must be so easy to be a progressive who lack political principles. It makes for shifting goal posts a pass time.

    1. Q Continuum

      It is easy when the Dinosaur Media carries your water and runs interference for you 24/7.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        At least it forces nonleftists to have better arguments.

    2. trshmnstr

      Maybe my 4th edition of the controlling the narrative series will be on the forced political amnesia that the media uses to position the “right” side against the “wrong” side.

  21. Rufus the Monocled

    Trump calling that little asshole ‘Rocket Man’ made my day.

    He Made America Great Again with that one comment.

    1. Q Continuum

      He also made America Great Again by calling out socialism for the misery-inducing failure that it is.

      1. AlexinCT

        I bet you this really pissed off the international socialism peddlers…

        1. MikeS

          Let’s just say he didn’t exactly get a standing ovation.

    2. Ed Wuncler

      It’s stuff like that which makes it hard for me to hate him. He’s boorish and an asshole when it comes to criminal justice but I do love the way he’s giving a finger to the establishment and watching them being helpless.

      1. The Zenome Project

        To be fair, assholery on criminal justice is bipartisan. I don’t think there’s been a single president that didn’t “law n’ order” and “tough on crime” in at least 30 years.

    3. Slammer

      I thought that Rocket Man was juvenile and stupid this morning. But I thought about it some more. What does Trump do really really well? Be a Bully. Remember he bullied the shit out of Jeb, and Jeb had no answer?

      If you’re a totalitarian dictator who considers yourself part of a Divine bloodline, getting called a joke problably really gets under your skin.

      Trump punked him on the world stage.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Exactly. Stop tip-toeing around this moron. Mock him on the world stage.

        And absolutely give the middle finger to the UN.

        Everyone does it in a roundabout way anyway – The Simpsons and Dr. Strangelove are a couple of examples that spring to mind.

        Giving speeches gawking over the promise and ideals of the UN is cynical nonsense. And hopelessly boring. Which is what Obama was: A big fat, snore-bore.

        Call the bastards out.

        1. Q Continuum

          The UN is a welfare program for socialist NGOs and a corruption machine for snooty assholes to line their pockets while feeling good about themselves. Any claim it had to “world peace” or “cooperation” as an ideal has been dead for decades.

          1. Somalian Road Corporation

            I volunteered for and voted for Badnarik, who was willing to deal with that contemptible citadel of global hypocrisy.

            Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to for LP for President since then. Jesus, I wonder if reason (hyuk hyuk) will start to prevail as antifa and their fellow travelers still do their thing, or if it’ll still be full cocktail by 2020.

          2. UN Force Commander: How do we keep the peace?

            UN Forces: Rape local women?

      2. Hyperion

        Should have called him ‘porkchop’.

        1. Vhyrus

          I would have just gone with Fatty Kim. Trump is not exactly known for his eloquence.

          1. Hyperion

            Should have shown a propaganda film with a big nuclear tipped missle with Porkchop Kim written on the side of and said ‘Look, porkchip, this is a present coming for you. Boo!’.

    1. Sour Kraut

      Err, Austria.

      Still WTF. Web sites full of “kitlers” have been around since the birth of the internets.

      1. Count Potato

        Sorry, I should have noticed the cat wasn’t upside down.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        What’s the difference? They all speak Austrian!

        /Obama raises glass.

    2. Hyperion

      They’ve been competing with Limeyville about a decade now for the title of stupidest first world country. I’m not sure who’s winning, looks to still be a tie.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    D’oh!

    Just days after announcing that it was for sale, Rolling Stone learned that it still faces litigation over its retracted article about a purported gang rape at the University of Virginia, news that may complicate the magazine’s efforts to find a buyer.

    On Tuesday, the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in Manhattan ruled that a lower court had erred in dismissing a defamation lawsuit filed by three former members of the fraternity at the center of the 2014 article. In the earlier decision, a judge ruled that the three men — George Elias IV, Ross Fowler and Stephen Hadford — had not shown that the article was “of and concerning” them personally, apart from the fraternity. The article was written by Sabrina Rubin Erdely, who was named as a defendant, along with Rolling Stone and its parent company, Wenner Media.

    ————

    In a statement on Tuesday, Rolling Stone said, “We are disappointed with the Second Circuit’s ruling today, but are confident that this case has no merit.”

    No merit. They keep saying that.

    1. Brett L

      So is Rolling Stone now worth less than Newsweek?

      1. AlexinCT

        Comes with a few millions in obligatory fees to clients that were injured…

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      If only they’d checked the merit of Miss Coakley’s statement, they wouldn’t be in this predicament, would they?

  23. Unreconstructed

    OT: Kristen, saw your question about Colorado tech jobs yesterday. I have some former colleagues (IT consulting) in the Denver area that would have solid insight. I’d be happy to put you in touch with them.

    1. KibbledKristen

      Sweet! I think it would be OK for admins to share my email with you and Q. Is that how things work around here? I mean, I’m using a fake email at any rate, so what the hell: ronswansonsbeyotch at gmail

      Shoot me an email there if you like. I hope I remember to check it.

      1. Unreconstructed

        Sent.

  24. Count Potato

    “Lauren Southern’s Kafkaesque Facebook Persecution”

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/lauren-southerns-kafkaesque-facebook-persecution/

    1. Hyperion

      The thing about Zuckerberg is that not only is he not well liked by most of the right, for reasons exactly like this, he personally, as well as FB are openly despised to the extent of irrational hatred by many on the left. He’s seen as a leftist shithead by the right and an evil corporate greed monger who’s spying on us all, by the left. Not a really enviable position to be in when you want to get into politics. He may want to moderate and tone it down a little. But he’s got plenty of money and what the hell, everyone else is doing it.

    2. Hyperion

      And lefties don’t like Lauren too much because she’s too damn pretty. Look at liberal women, they all fugly!

      1. Did she once writte/film things worth reading/watching, all I know of her is that every couple weeks some social media site bans her and then she bitches about it. It seems like that’s her shtick now?

        1. Hyperion

          She was actually pretty good on Rebel Media. And she’s hot.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    So is Rolling Stone now worth less than Newsweek?

    I’m reminded of “The Ransom of Red Chief”.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      My exposure to Hungary is limited but I have read time to time how much they seem to hate Soros. Is this accurate in general?

      1. Q Continuum

        They are actually trying to pursue criminal racketeering charges against him and want to lock him up. Not that they ever will, but it’s nice to see somebody with balls.

    2. Hyperion

      Wait, wasn’t Soros one of the good Nazis?

      1. Number.6

        He keeps telling himself that, yes.

        1. Hyperion

          I hear that he helped some Jews relocate, practically for free.

          1. westernsloper

            If he did, he is making up for it now.

  26. Q Continuum

    Another thing Romney was laughed at about was “self-deportation”. I never understood why that was such a ridiculous idea.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-ln-dual-citizenship-20170808-htmlstory.html

  27. Q Continuum

    “Climate change not as threatening to planet as previously thought” YOU. DON’T. SAY.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/09/18/immediacy-threat-climate-change-exaggerated-faulty-models/

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      I’m surprised this got published.

      But it will be easy to shoot down by The Believers.

      We need many much many more articles like that one in order to quell the hysterics.

      1. AlexinCT

        I am not.. the people that doubled down on the idiotic predictions basically ended up causing the watermelon movement not just their credibility, but their agenda. So now they will soften things up, you know in order to gain some credibility again with easy to confuse types, then demand the same solution: massive socialistic wealth redistribution scam with a massively grown government to oversee that.

        1. Brett L

          Yes. Exactly. If we’ve already failed, we can’t oppress people in the name of Gaia. But if we haven’t failed yet, there’s still time to oppress enough.

    2. Brett L

      “Oh shit, people are starting to give up. We need more money to protect our phoney-baloney jobs!”

      1. But Enough About Me

        Correct. The First Wave of Climate Hysterics were amateurs that couldn’t figure out just how much they could ratchet up the doom-‘n-gloom without going overboard.

        This new generation of Climate Justice Workers‘ll show ’em how it’s really done.

    3. Brett L

      Holy Shit. Now THIS is heresy!

      Light drinking in pregnancy ‘unlikely’ to harm babies, but experts caution lack of evidence

      1. But Enough About Me

        Pfffft. Light drinking?

        My Mom had several martinis a day while she was preggers, and I’m f-f-f-f-f-f-f-fine.

  28. Gilmore

    Florida Man arrested after machete fight.

    At least we still live in an age of chivalry in which authorities will wait for a gentleman’s duel to be complete before lodging their formal complaints.

    1. Is it really a machete fight if only one guy brings a machete?

      1. Gilmore

        Its a KIND of machete fight. Maybe one of them was like, “I bet you can’t hit me with that”. It happens!

        1. jesse.in.mb

          I was surprised by the gendering of your pronoun there, but then clicked through.

        2. Troy

          Nice euphemism

      1. Number.6

        Anything from Godfrey Elfwick lately?

  29. England.

    Is the entire island populated with Cuck-ass pussy bitches? Or just Manchester?

    1. Vhyrus

      Wales?

    2. Sources have told ESPN FC Greater Manchester Police have not received any complaints about the incident and are not currently investigating.

      Well that’s a relief. Although hate speech can be hurtful, I’m not sure any black dudes are gonna complain that soccer fans are chanting a song about them having big dongs

      1. Q Continuum

        Everything is racist.

      2. Brett L

        Its not like they’re throwing bananas at him.

    3. Number.6

      30 Years ago, Manchester had one of the toughest ‘lauranorder’ police departments.

      Beat cops didn’t have truncheons, they had 4 ft long “nigger knockers”, and their riot equipment (which was needed from time to time) included Mossbergs.

      But that was in the days of Chief Anderton. Nowadays, the Chief Constable is probably a 350lb black lesbian amputee pacifist with a lisp. So, basically, Dianne Abbott with one less limb.

      1. Emmerson Biggins

        Were they actually refered to, in some context, as “Nigger Knockers” ? That is a phrase I have not heard in some time. Didn’t even know existed on the far side of the pond.

      2. Number.6

        I heard them referred to by that name when I lived there, but they were usually referred to as ‘nightsticks’. 4ft long, 1.5in diameter at the top with a knurled ball on ’em. Wouldn’t have looked out of place in a remake of Braveheart.

    4. Slammer

      The best response would be to do what he’s been doing…scoring goals

      1. Q Continuum

        Followed by fuckin’ bitches with his huge black cock.

        1. pan fried wylie

          “I score two points per game then I go home and fuck your Mom.”

          The low score nature of soccer makes it extra emasculating.

    5. Hyperion

      YES

  30. Scruffy Nerfherder

    My rage inducing moment of the day consisted of finding out that Hans Fucking Zimmer is the composer for the new Blade Runner instead of Vangelis.

    Fuck you Ridley.

    1. Somalian Road Corporation

      He’s really lost the plot recently. A damned shame… I should watch The Duellists again.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I hate him for ruining Alien. If he ruins Blade Runner, I might have to hunt him down.

  31. Drake

    Somebody has to live next to Kathy Griffin. Doesn’t sound like fun as her boyfriend likes to call the cops for noise complaints when the grandkids play by the pool.

    1. Number.6

      Kathy’s just angry about that house that fell out of the sky and crushed her sister.

      1. Q Continuum

        Call the burn unit!

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      She’s pathetic and miserable.

      Always love to read about progs who lose their shit over Trump act like complete assholes towards their fellow human beings at its most intimate moments.

    3. MikeS

      I like her neighboor

      Transcript via HuffPo

      MEZGER: “Hey Randy, go f*ck yourself. Seriously? You call on my grandkids at 9 o’clock? You’re not even the f*cking owner. You’re stuck with a f*cking bald dyke who Donald Trump kind of put the heat on. Now you’re calling the cops? F*ck you and f*ck Kathy. You’re not our f*cking neighbor, you’re a f*cking a$$hole.”

      GRIFFIN [background]: “What’s going on?”

      MEZGER: “Let’s declare war, a$$hole, ’cause we got a lot to go for. Let’s bring it on, you b*tch.” [cross talk]

      GRIFFIN: “Randy, what’s happening?” [cross talk] “Randy, what’s happening?”

      MEZGER: “If you’re asking Randy what’s happening, he called the cops on my 5-year-old granddaughter, you f*cking c*nt. Bullsh*t ― 9 o’clock at night ― oh, this party’s loud, this party’s really happening. F*ck you. I’ve done enough trying to be a nice partner ― f*ck you, neighbor. War’s happening. Don’t wait until we’re gonna bring some things on you. Now f*ck you.”

      1. Number.6

        Yeah, but it doesn’t give us much insight to what the neighbor really thinks ….

      2. Meh, Seems like a case of everyone* involved being assholes.

        *I was going to exclude the five year old but I’ve met some five year old assholes, I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt.

        1. Vhyrus

          I’m going to put it more on the Griffin and co. Calling the cops 5 times on a guy with his grandkids at his own pool? Christ.

          1. Little kids can make a hell of a racket. And its a high pitched ear-piercing kind of screech, no one wants to hear the unmitigated joy of un-jaded/broken/disillusioned innocence.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            At 9pm?

            I’ve got some loud neighbors and I’ve given them some shit over partying till 2 in the morning. But 9pm?

          3. trshmnstr

            This is why brick should come back into fashion, and people should live more than 10 feet away from their neighbors.

          4. mexican sharpshooter

            This could be the result of multiple similar events.

          5. Number.6

            This time of year, it’s hardly dark – the sun hasn’t gone down yet – so Kathy can’;t get out of her coffin anyway.

          6. Who knows how late the previous times went (as mentioned this is the fifth instance), also even if Griffith and her BF are out of line, the reaction is also out of line. they called the cops, it’s not like they threatened their liv…….oh shit , you guys are right, my bad.

            Still little kids are noisy little assholes that many of you parents need to exercise some more ass whopping on.

    4. The comments at HuffPo? Yeah….

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kathy-griffin-jeffrey-mezger-kb-home_us_59c145aee4b0186c22061a67

      They’re what one would expect. So enter at your own risk.

      1. The best ones were the 20-something progtards in New York saying they’ll never buy a new home from KB.

        1. Vhyrus

          Technically correct, the best kind!

        2. To be fair, they probably shouldn’t, …just not for this reason.

  32. Gilmore

    The AP spin on the Obamacare repeal proposal is surprisingly similar to the ‘promise’ of Obamacare itself:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The GOP’s last-ditch effort to repeal “Obamacare” would redistribute hundreds of billions of dollars in federal financing for insurance coverage, creating winners and losers among individual Americans and states in ways not yet fully clear.

    I mean, what exactly do they think happened between 2012 and now? Exactly that. they seem to think “doing it again (aka “undoing that”)” is dangerous idiocy rather than a necessary part of unfucking what was heretofore megafucked

    1. The Zenome Project

      If all of the Clinton-style triangulation Trump did last week gets those swampy Senators to get scared into supporting this bill and tax reform, I will wear the MAGA hat in my closet for a whole week. Signing those bills will immediately make him the most libertarian-friendly president in 25 years, excluding the debt (which he’s never been against, unfortunately).

  33. Number.6

    It is now I emigrated.

    1. Q Continuum

      That’s meta.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Both you blue fellas look simultaneously startled by something…

    2. westernsloper

      Congratulations. To where?

      1. Number.6

        That was meant to be a response to sloopy’s question about everyone in Britain being a cuck.

        “It is now that I’ve emigrated”

  34. Enough About Palin

    High Schoolers Forced To Lay In Dark Room, Wrists Bound As ‘Slavery Project’

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/09/18/high-school-under-fire-for-project-reenacting-slavery/

    1. jesse.in.mb

      I’m not clicking through, but if the teacher wandered off to get a Starbucks while the kids were bound in the dark, he or she is my new personal hero.

    2. Q Continuum

      “Open your mouth and close your eyes and you’ll get a big surprise!”

      (unzips)

    3. Vhyrus

      You will stay here until you admit your privilege!

    4. Number.6

      So, now we know what Podesta’s been doing since November …

  35. Q Continuum

    Not placing a value judgement on this; however, I have seen it in action. One of my closest friends worked in Denmark for a couple of years and I went to visit him a few times. There is something about the Scandinavian socialism-lite model that sucks meaning out of people’s lives. This was back when I was still in my late 20’s and when we went out to the bars, we were easily in the bottom 10th percentile of age. The median age had to be 10 years older, yet people were behaving like college kids; getting belligerently hammered every night, random hookups, no career; “I’m working on my fourth degree, why not it’s free and I haven’t decided what I want to do yet! – out of the mouths of late 30’s early 40’s people. When the government treats you like a child, you act like one.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-19/finland-s-welfare-state-has-a-massive-baby-problem

    Again, no value judgement intended as some people choose to live this way on their own dime. However, I can see how government-funded hedonism would not be so good for productivity/demographics.

    1. Vhyrus

      When you don’t have money you don’t want kids. Not a hard math problem there. The only reason I don’t have kids is I can’t afford them yet.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        I can’t afford them yet.

        Someone missed the financing options mentioned in the Adorphans™ sales literature. Owning children has never been easier or more affordable than it is today. Bad credit, no credit at all!? We’re willing to work with you to get an Adorphan™ adding labor power to your home or industrial economy.

        1. Vhyrus

          Thanks but I kinda wanna grow my own. Breeders and all, you know?

          1. jesse.in.mb

            I…see. Is it competitive advantage you reject or simply division of labor?

          2. Vhyrus

            I’m going with selfish gene theory.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            Completely understandable. I am, before I go, required by policy to ask that you think about what a preference for genetic heirs did to the Roman Empire.

            Have a lovely day, Sir, and if you ever need an quality orphan, it HAS to be an Adorphan™!

        2. Hyperion

          They probably won’t be as productive as your orphans, because they sort of look like you and so you feel guilty beating them. However, you can put them on a giant hamster wheel made into a video game to generate power. They’ll even skip meals and stay up late all on their own. The key is to have a mother type figure yell at them to get off there and come to eat, or go to bed.

          1. Trigger Hippie

            ‘…they sort of look like you and so you feel guilty beating them.’

            That would only make me beat them harder. Thus, no children(sure, that’s the reason….I think he bought it).

      2. The Last American Hero

        It goes farther than that. If you had to pay full freight for college, you either wouldn’t go or you’d be laser focused on getting a degree in something that could allow you to earn a decent living. If you get to behave like a trust fund baby and go on the State’s dime, you get a bunch of unmotivated slackers.

        1. Hyperion

          I remember watching a documentary a while back on the English model welfare system. So apparently there’s a bunch of rather large families in Limeyville who have figured out that you can sort of be rich if you can pop out enough babies. There was one family with 8 children. Neither of them worked or had in years, yet they lived at a level far above the average income. They had no shame at all about what they were doing or had any plans to stop doing it. Both of them were able bodied and skilled too. Sort of not too far from there now in the USA.

    2. Drake

      Dammit!

      1. Q Continuum

        You got served!

    3. Slammer

      Hello, Finnish ladies! I am here to help

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Kathy’s just angry about that house that fell out of the sky and crushed her sister.

    “Be gone, before somebody drops a house on you.”

  37. Drake

    As famous as the Finns are for being drunks, you would think there would be more pregnancies there. Too drunk to fuck?

    1. Gilmore

      Most of europe is at Zero Population Growth, and the nordic countries are (last i checked) negative birth rates. which is partly why Sweden embarked on an “Come all ye refugees!” policy about a decade ago, although have justified it along wokeness-lines as well.

      Its a fact of all very-developed nations that as we get richer, we vote ourselves more and more benefits, but then work so much to enjoy our wealth and pay for our benefits that we decide that having kids isn’t “affordable”

      many people still SAY making babies is their life’s ambition, but stats seem to show that it is something that all rich nations seem to talk themselves out of.

      1. Q Continuum

        See above: my theory is a lack of maturity brought out by the government treating citizens as children.

      2. Vhyrus

        This right here. Government has effectively killed marriage and priced babies out of affordability.

  38. The Late P Brooks

    They put out the bait, and I clicked.

    This is global Trumpism

    But foreign leaders already wary of Trump’s approach, whom he may call upon for military sacrifice at some point, may question his call for burden sharing when he did not even mention the threat that many see as paramount, the one posed by global warming.

    You got me, CNN. I have no one to blame but myself.

    1. Q Continuum

      So, does CNN hold job fairs at homes for the feeble minded or what?

      1. If by “feeble-minded”, you mean Ivy League J-schools, then yes.

        1. Q Continuum

          Potato, potahto.

          1. Count Potato

            *triggered*

    2. Number.6

      You go to war with the weapons you got. We got bombs. Bombs will work on North Koreans. Bombs will not work on Global Warming.

      Knowing this, what should we be bombing?

      1. Q Continuum

        Coal fired powerplants and red states. Like totes DUH!

        1. pan fried wylie

          We’re sorry, the response we were looking for was “Nazis”, same targets, but “Nazis”. Thanks for playing and enjoy your complimentary home edition of the game, good night folks, we’ll see you next week on *crowd chants along* BOMB THAT NAZI!!!

          ba-da-da-daaaaa…

    1. Q Continuum

      They’re peaceful protesters fighting violent speech…. or something.

  39. Slammer

    Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) today released the following statement on President Trump’s remarks before the U.N. General Assembly:

    “The goals of the United Nations are to foster peace and promote global cooperation.

    “Today, the president used it as a stage to threaten war.

    “He missed an opportunity to present any positive actions the U.N. could take with respect to North Korea, and he launched a diatribe against Iran, again offering no pathway forward.

    “By suggesting he would revisit and possibly cancel the Iran nuclear agreement, he greatly escalated the danger we face from both Iran and North Korea. What nation would negotiate with the United States when the agreements we reach with other countries are so easily undermined?

    “Trump’s bombastic threat to destroy North Korea and his refusal to present any positive pathways forward on the many global challenges we face are severe disappointments. He aims to unify the world through tactics of intimidation, but in reality he only further isolates the United States.”

    1. Somalian Road Corporation

      Trump should have just threatened to grab NK by the pussy.

      1. Q Continuum

        LOL

    2. Vhyrus

      Well then it’s a good thing we didn’t give Iran pallets of money to oh wait…..

    1. Vhyrus

      Nothing beats the ebola plushie.

      1. thepasswordispassword

        What about an ebola-chan plushie?

    2. jesse.in.mb

      Oh shit, MRSA has a cape!

      1. Vhyrus

        They need STDs in this list so I can make the joke about giving my girlfriend AIDS.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Just buy her a clapper

          1. Q Continuum

            Is there an echo in here?

          2. trshmnstr

            A very persistent one.

          3. pan fried wylie

            There was a gnat stuck in my ear, I got it out though.

          1. Vhyrus

            I could see this as a very gentle newsbreaker. Send them a plushie in the mail with a card “This is the second time I’ve given you herpes. Sorry!”

      2. Q Continuum

        SUPERBUG!

    3. Slammer

      That E. Coli plush. Need

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      I am forwarding this to the infection control team. They’d get a kick out of these.

    5. Brett L

      I was dating a nurse one Christmas and she gave me a plushy Syphilis. Just to be clear, I did not give her actual syphilis in return. She just loved the idea of “giving her bf syphilis”

      1. Vhyrus

        “I did not give her actual syphilis in return.”

        Cuck.

        1. Brett L

          I don’t think so, but I definitely have Eskimo brothers from that relationship.

          1. jesse.in.mb

            Hawt

    6. one true athena

      we have their plushie dust mite from a few years ago. It’s weirdly cute. You can (or at least used to be able to) buy them direct from Giant Microbes.

      1. pan fried wylie

        plushy bed bugs not as popular for some reason.

        1. Number.6

          You can get the real thing for nothing in NYC

          1. jesse.in.mb

            My roommate’s backpack got infested while sitting in the luggage room of a Fijian hostel. Made it the whole trip without problem and then the place that was close to the airport. As soon as she realized what had happened she was merciless and they never caught hold in our house. If they had she would’ve burned the neighborhood down and rebuilt rather than deal with them.

          2. pan fried wylie

            my alternate play was something about it being the highest seller in NYC, you win this round of Bedbug Balleyhoo.

    7. Gilmore

      I actually just bought a half-dozen of those for my nieces

      1. jesse.in.mb

        Internet commenter gives under-aged nieces chlamydia, news at 11.

    8. westernsloper

      If it is not a giant purple alien dildo body pillow I am not interested.

  40. Jefe Hayek

    Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People

    The comments are basically all variations of the below

    This sounds very similar to the conversation currently ongoing in the LGBT+ community in that Gay Men and to a lesser extent Lesbian Women are the ones who’ve been the rallying cases of and the main benefits to initiatives focused at the community and that they’ve just as badly treated other minorities within the community, largely the other two groups of the main four letters, and ended up preventing them from gaining the same benefits and initiatives.

    1. Brett L

      Even worse if they date whites women, right? It’s weird when intersectionalilty is the same as racists.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Since they can’t be racist, it opens the door for them to be totes racist.

        Hey, we can’t be slave holders, we were slaves!

      2. Jefe Hayek

        I think it was Dave Burge who pointed out that Jezebel/VSB headlines are virtually indistinguishable from Storm Front headlines.

        “I’m sick of seeing brown men date white women in movies”

        ^^^ Which site is that from?

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Damon Young is the (fill in the blanks) of contemporary faux-intellectualism.

      Imagine seeing life through this dink’s eyes. How insufferably maniacal it must be!

    3. Hyperion

      “You could make the same argument about men of all races we really all are a problem.”

      Kill yourself now.

  41. Mustang

    The tweet about condemning Abtifa posted earlier, and the subsequent totalitarian responses, got me thinking about why Antifa is the actual threat, not white nationalists/Nazis/what the fuck ever.

    I’m sure many of you are familiar with the three elements of what constitutes a valid threat: ability, opportunity, and intent. All three of these must be present in order to be considered a threat.

    Ability is the attacker has the means to attack you (a pipe, knife, gun, physical size, numbers). Opportunity means they are within proximity and/or there’s no physical barriers preventing them from attacking. Intent is pretty self-explanatory.

    Antifa nearly always checks all three boxes just by showing up. They are a threat. They’ve expressed the intent to do harm, they usually have the ability to do so due to their numbers, and they almost always have the opportunity to do so unless opposed by law enforcement or the more peaceful counter-protestors.

    The white nationalists/Nazis/whatever almost never meet those criteria. They express the intent to do harm in a general way, but intent has to be specific. If they don’t express the intent to do harm at a specific rally, the threat isn’t there. They can have the ability because theysometimes arrived armed, but not often. It doesn’t matter, however, if the intent isn’t there. And they rarely have the opportunity due to large law enforcement and counter-protestors presence.

    Now, they may express their desire for genocide, but the fact is that they don’t have the ability or opportunity to carry them out. They are a statistically nonexistent portion of the population and with the exception of other statistically insignificant people, have zero support from the population to carry out their intent.

    Antifa has at least tacit support from the media, the support of many leftists who do nothing to stop them (verbally or physically), and even the support of the political elite who do nothing to stop them and instead subtly praise them by pointing the finger at a couple hundred inbred racists.

    The threat does not exist on the right. There is almost no intent (with the exception of a statistically insignificant number of the population), ability, or opportunity to conduct violence. The threat exists almost solely on the left, who have expressed the intent (passively or actively) to overturn the results of the election and take the fight to the streets, they have the ability to carry out their intent, and probably the opportunity.

    Just some half-assed, probably wrong, thoughts.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      /Soave faints.

    2. Slammer

      “Abtifa”

      Body Shamers!

      1. Slammer

        😉 good post tho

    3. Lackadaisical

      Just some half-assed, probably wrong, thoughts.

      No, you’re dead on. I’ve always looked at it through this lens. When we have politicians not just defending the rights of Nazis to speak, but actually agreeing with theirs aims (if not their ‘methods’), then I’d take the threat they pose to life and liberty more seriously.

      1. Mustang

        The issue is that the left are trying to create these three things out of things air to use against the right. Every time they say that someone who supports more stringent immigration laws or reform is a Nazi, they are creating the threat out of thin air.

        Subconsciously I think most people use these three things to decide if a threat exists, and if most people do, then that is probably why the hard left is losing steam. Even moderate Democrats can’t rationalize labeling immigration reform a threat that requires action the way Antifa and their tacit supporters are carrying out.

    4. Mustang

      This is also why words are not violence. Intent is expressed through words, but without the other two factors the words mean nothing. Any rational person could figure this out, but I guess that’s out of the question for these people.

    5. westernsloper

      Now, they may express their desire for genocide

      I am not a regular storm front reader (ever to be honest) and or am I tuned into the line of thinking of the Nazi/white supremacist movement, but I am not sure any of them call for genocide. I do believe the white nationalist Spencer types call for segregated society and all that which is pretty fucked up, but I have not heard of genocide. Until the mid sixties the Democrat party called for segregated society. Other than that I agree with you. I was taught means, ability, and intent. I went through LE school in the 90’s though. Means = weapon. Ability = physical capability. Intent = breaking the plane of threat for a firearm or coming at you with other sorts of weapons. This is why I get so pissed at cop shootings these days. A dude with a gun is not a threat until he raises it across the plane of threat. Reaching for a gun is not a threat until he has hold of it and is about to aim it at you. When he has it in his hand and is turning toward you, then you shoot him.

      Antifa is organizing with weapons of sorts with pre-claimed intent and if ever they act on that intent of harm to police they should be met with equal force just as any idiot should be met with the same including white supremacists.

    6. Not an Economist

      Sounds like something a Nazi would say….

  42. KibbledKristen

    So, no smokes since yesterday evening (I found two in my car when I was on my way home last night). Just tryna power through it.

    1. DOOMco

      You can do it!

    2. MikeS

      24 hours! It’s your first milestone.

      Hang in there Kristen. Sunflower seeds helped me. Life savers and toothpicks occasionally, too. And I used those nicotine lozenges for a week or two.

    3. westernsloper

      Smoke them. Don’t listen to these pink lung fascists,

      Just kidding. Take up Copenhagen so you can disgust people on a new nicotine level. Or Red Man and get a 44 oz spit cup for your desk.

    4. Brett L

      You got this. I fail at it, but you got it!

    5. Do you vape?

    6. Akira

      Take up running or biking or something. Seriously. For starters, it will help rebuild the lung tissue that has been damaged from tobacco use. It will also give you some motivation to stay away from cigarettes. When you can run a whole mile, two miles, three miles, and so on, you’ll be so proud of those milestones that you won’t want to screw up that progress by smoking again.

      1. “Take up running or biking or something.”

        I read that as bikini-ing and was thinking that could be good, too.

  43. Tacit Rainbow

    https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/910200714290503683

    David Burge‏ @iowahawkblog 6h6 hours ago

    UN: we condemn DPRK in the strongest terms
    Trump: I will fucking nuke them back to the stone age
    UN: OK, maybe not in the strongest terms

    I cannot understand why he confines his wit to Twitter.

    1. DOOMco

      does he really only live on the twitters?

    2. Slammer

      No one is pithier

    3. Lackadaisical

      I’m just putting this out there, but is it possible that Trump is our best president since Polk or the first Roosevelt (that corollary was sexy as fuck).

      1. trshmnstr

        best president since . . . the first Roosevelt

        The original progressive? The sociopath who agitated us into the Spanish American War because he had a bloodlust? The virulent racist and eugenicist?

        Relevant Book Recommendation

        1. Lackadaisical

          Polk also agitated for the Mexican American war.

          My ‘favorites’ are a bit tongue-in-cheek.

          1. trshmnstr

            I should’ve known. I had a niggling suspicion that your choice of presidents had to do with starting wars with hispanics, but sometimes I misunderestimate the aura of intelligence that pervades this site.

        2. Lackadaisical

          By-the-by, great article, for #2 of your series.

          1. trshmnstr

            Many thanks! I’m glad you like it!

  44. MikeS

    Florida nurse!

    The viral post shared a photo from a Snapchat account, which showed the employee giving the middle finger to a newborn, followed by a caption that read “How I currently feel about these mini Satans.” The post also read the “navy nurse” and her friend made a baby dance to rap music.

  45. Lackadaisical

    Whats the libertarian position on getting drunk on a Tuesday?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzzWEeiUf3Y

    Some people, think Zappa died from cancer. I for one, think he was bumped off by Hillary.

    There is not, nor ought there be, something so exalted on the face of God’s green earth as Beer.

    1. As long as you’re not harming anybody else, drink away!

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      He Said God’s Grey earth
      /pedant

      1. Lackadaisical

        Hm, *listens again*

        1. Lackadaisical

          Jesus, been listening to that song for about 25 years and never realized that.

  46. Gilmore

    I was reading a review of Cody Wilson’s book…

    http://autisticmercury.com/%EF%BB%BFirreducibly-weaponized.html

    don’t know when it was written, but was only recently linked to it….

    … and i stopped to watch some of the videos the review links to. The one he does w/ Glenn Beck is the one that made me shake my head and realize how stupid “conservatives” like Beck are (if he really even calls is that) and how illiterate they are in basic libertarian (or properly conservative) ideas.

    Wilson basically schools him… every angle that comes up. Bonus points for when he tells him to read Foucault, who was dinged … yesterday? as just another commie-critical-theorist, but who actually does have some interesting ideas relevant to any libertarian thinking.

    1. Gilmore

      oh, and if you watch the Beck/Wilson interview, please stop it after the end or else you will be exposed to a Very Very Bad anarchist rap video.

      1. westernsloper

        Hah…..I hate bad anarchist rap videos. I think you give Beck too much credit for being illiterate to ideas. He is just a drama queen and printed guns makes some drama. I give him the benefit of the doubt when I listen to him that he is actually growing on liberty principles. I am pretty ignorant in the basics of some of it myself if one has to be judged by a reading list.

    2. Number.6

      Harumph. My problem with Foucault lies not works like Discipline and Punish which I found interesting, but overblown, but the co-opting of his earlier work by the leftists who he moved away from in the 70’s, I understand because he saw the hypocrisy of the way that French Marxists treated jews and homosexuals, as he moved on to live in Poland during the rise of Solidarity.

      The body of work he had completed by that time was a powerful set of tools for the critical theorists, who eagerly adopted them – providing ammunition and philosophical heft to their movement. My Monday-afternoon critique should have been better explained, but that’s the essence of it.

      Foucault left the field leaving some dangerous tools in the hands of a terrible enemy.

      1. Gilmore

        Foucault left the field leaving some dangerous tools in the hands of a terrible enemy.

        Cody Wilson among them, apparently.