Tuesday Afternoon Links

It is Tuesday. I’ve been chugging along at work. It will soon be beer-thirty.

Last Chance: Tampa Bay area Glibs — if you have any desire in a meetup this weekend, say so now. Otherwise, I’ll just hang out with Negroni and talk shit about Charlie Strong and (now separately) Texas football.

Somehow India has a plan to supply power to 300M people for $2.5B, but Puerto Rico needs an unknown amount of money to return power to 1% of that number. I’m guessing more than $25M.

Its nice to see a patent troll friendly court get slapped around by a higher authority. (T/W boing-boing)

More chestnuts than a man can eat in this piece on the Ozone Treaty.

A politician who knows his audience.

The word of the day is: Lumberjack

Comments

500 responses to “Tuesday Afternoon Links”

  1. Q Continuum

    For Elite Elite and my other brown sugar lovers.

    http://archive.is/l4i4K

    1. bacon-magic

      1 & done.

      1. Fine…then I get 5 and 30 all to meself!

        1. bacon-magic

          This isn’t an auction block you racist.

          1. You said you were done!

            *scowls*

          2. bacon-magic

            *furrows brow* – Swissy
            *waggles brow* – bacee

          3. Bobarian LMD

            He’s got a hair trigger and a rapid recovery, apparently.

    2. Vhyrus

      You’re trying to get me fired. I understand.

      1. Tundra

        Just close the office door, dumbass!

        1. Vhyrus

          I DONT HAVE AN OFFICE! *runs out crying!*

    3. Tundra

      *hands 26 a towel*

      1 places a very close second.

    4. Gordilocks

      1,26,30

    5. Enough About Palin

      According to the CDC, 48% of African-American women between the ages of 14 and 49 have genital herpes.

      https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/herpes-nhanes-2010.htm

      1. R C Dean

        So, the odds are still in my favor?

        Woo-hoo!

      2. R C Dean

        Rethinks odds: what’s the rate for 18 – 49?

      3. JaimeRoberto

        Normally I wear protection, but then I thought, “When am I gonna make it back to Haiti?”

        1. Tundra

          Nice jeans.

    6. AlmightyJB

      Yeah, 1. Those outfitss on 7 and 9 though. Damn.

    7. Mad Scientist

      27 has a serious Lana Kane thing going on. SO WOULD.

  2. Mad Scientist

    Lumberjack you say?

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Damn you.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      See, that’s what I was expecting in the links.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        C’mon.. “I ain’t jacked my lumber baby since my chain saw you!”

      2. Mythical Libertarian Woman

        This is also what I expected to see.

  3. Playa Manhattan

    Continued from the previous thread:
    “if it’s OK to punch a NAZI, it’s damn sure OK to punch a communist 10 times or more.”

    I have quite a few associates on Facebook who were gleeful about that crazy dude in Seattle getting cold cocked in the head.

    I think I’m going to push this angle and see where it goes.

    1. Q Continuum

      I reiterate my thought experiment:

      Person A wears a swastika armband.
      Group B assaults person A because he’s a “Nazi”.
      Person A pulls out CCW and kills one or more of Group B.

      What does the prosecutor do? I assume this to be in a “stand your ground” state.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I would love to see an undercover Berkeley Police detective do this. He’ll get away with it, because cop.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Oh, and for reference, the BPD and the UCPD do have the resources for something like this. They just don’t care.

          David Cash went to Berkeley at the same time I did. He had a 24 hour undercover security detail follow him everywhere for almost 2 years, at no cost to him. They arrested EVERYONE who threatened him or spit at him.

          If they can protect an accessory to child rape and murder, they can protect a mentally ill cosplayer.

          That is, if they wanted to.

      2. libertarianjoe

        Well surely Person A was within their right to self defense in that situation.

        I mean, if a women wearing a skimpy outfit uses a CCW to defend against someone trying to rape her, would her clothing really matter?

        1. Q Continuum

          This is exactly the point I’m trying to make. This is insane victim blaming. Well if that Jew didn’t want to get beaten up he shouldn’t have worn a Yarmulke works as well.

          1. libertarianjoe

            Yeah, it’s totally victim blaming. Just because people are unsympathetic to the victim, doesn’t mean that the act wasn’t a crime. I mean, we still locked up Jack Ruby and sentenced him to death, even though the guy he killed was Lee Harvey Oswald.

      3. Brett L

        Depends. if Person A is just walking down the street, A gets off in FL. Probably doesn’t even get past the evidentiary hearing all SYG shootings are required to have. If A was at a protest or other public event, A goes to trial.

        1. Q Continuum

          “If A was at a protest or other public event, A goes to trial.”

          This is what I don’t get. Showing up at a public event wearing a particular outfit or accessory is not an aggressive act by itself. People attack this hypothetical individual, he should have the right to self-defense regardless of the context.

          1. DOOMco

            In my mind, that’s a really quick trial.

          2. Brett L

            A couple of things I am presuming in saying this:
            1) In such a public event there is law enforcement presence and A can expect protective action from the police within enough time to make the threat of force no longer deadly (A is not rationally in fear of A’s life — not something I necessarily agree with but something a prosecutor can argue)
            2) There are more people who are not of group B there (A is more likely to be negligent in their discharges, and said discharges are more likely to injure a bystander)
            3) Going to a public event where one might intend to provoke or expect to be provoked (A has a higher standard to fear for one’s life)

          3. Q Continuum

            I haz deprezzed cause I know you’re right. *sigh*

          4. R C Dean

            Of course, prosecutors can make any idiotic argument that crosses their minds, but I don’t think those should change the outcome.

            1) In such a public event there is law enforcement presence and A can expect protective action from the police within enough time to make the threat of force no longer deadly (A is not rationally in fear of A’s life — not something I necessarily agree with but something a prosecutor can argue)

            If you’re actually being assaulted, then its already too late for the cops to stop you from being assaulted. Its not reasonable for you to inventory the local presence of law enforcement, their likely response times, and the probability that they will terminate the assault before you are killed or seriously injured. Thus, being at an event with a police presence shouldn’t change the analysis of the reasonableness of your fear of death or serious bodily injury.

            2) There are more people who are not of group B there (A is more likely to be negligent in their discharges, and said discharges are more likely to injure a bystander)

            If you do wing a bystander, yeah, that’s gonna be on you. If you don’t, I have a hard time saying that your exercise of self-defense was actually negligent in fact. I am not aware that you lose your right to armed self-defense at a certain density of bystanders, but this is actually the best charge the prosecutor could bring.

            3) Going to a public event where one might intend to provoke or expect to be provoked (A has a higher standard to fear for one’s life)

            I’m not an expert on self-defense law, but the classic test is “would a reasonable person have been afraid for their life or serious bodily injury”. Typically, it doesn’t apply to an aggressor, but “provocation” and “aggression” are different things. Attending an event with the intent to provoke doesn’t mean anything unless you actually provoke, and I’m not even sure you lose your right to self-defense if you actually provoke.

          5. DOOMco

            If you do wing a bystander, yeah, that’s gonna be on you.
            every cartridge has a lawyer.

          6. Spartan Dad

            I think I can help with this one. In VA at least, it’s not about aggression but rather contributing to the escalation of the situation. As long as you don’t contribute, you are under no duty to retreat and can use self defense. The second you honk your own in traffic, hurl an insult back, etc., you have escalated the situation and are now under a duty to retreat before using self-defense.

            Bringing an offensive item to a event purposely designed to escalate a situation gives you the burden to retreat if possible before using self defense. I’m not saying that it’s correct but that’s how I understand it works.

            That is my understanding of it, but I am not a lawyer so make of it what you will. Should a person be able to walk through a black ghetto in full KKK garb while plastered with actual pictures of black men being lynched and then claim self defense while gunning down every person that attacked them? That’s an extreme example of a scenario the escalation clause tries to prevent from happening.

          7. R C Dean

            Sounds like VA has decided that your exercise of freedom of expression limits your right to self-defense. Interesting.

          8. EvilSheldon

            Yup. This is true everywhere.

          9. kbolino

            Is there a carve-out for LEOs or do they not even need the fig-leaf?

      4. Number.6

        Ugh. This is the fifth time I’ve typed this. Bloody AT&T Wireless

        The problem is that if a sympathetic court was told by Group B that they *genuinely* feared for their safety as a result of Individual A wearing NAZI insignia, they have a defense.

        How could this be, you ask.

        I’ll tell you.

        1942, Chaplinsky vs New Hampshire “Fighting Words”

        When the wearing of an insignia constitutes a message, it becomes somewhat similar to speech. Once it’s established as speech, all that needs to happen is for a sympathetic court (Portland? Berkely?) to consider Group B’s defense that they had been threatened with violence (assault) by Individual A. In response to an assault, Group B hands out a beatdown – which, since Individual A had *already* assaulted them, was in itself legally defensible.

        It’s at a level where I’m seriously considering that (maybe) this, and future events like it should be viewed as potential false-flags. NAZIs don’t wander around in regalia, on their own. They just don’t.

        1. Mad Scientist

          So now I have to carry a drop gun and a drop swastika?

          1. Number.6

            Any of this stuff would do.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          They obviously want to normalize political violence. They are obviously willing to commit false flags when it comes to hate crimes. I don’t see why they wouldn’t be willing to combine the two.

          1. Number.6

            Well, political violence, yes, but they don’t want to normalize it, they want to legitimize it.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            They want that too. But the play is being made in the media to seek public acceptance of their techniques regardless of the legal acceptance.

        3. kinnath

          Skokie Illinois — mid 70s — The Supreme Court ruled that the Swastika does not constitute fighting words.

          1. Number.6

            Stare Decisis, it’s a helluva drug.

            I understand what you’re saying, but that doesn’t mean it won’t be tried as a defense, and IANAL, but in the right jurisdiction, I don’t think it would be preemptorily thrown out of court.

          2. robc

            But it isn’t a defense, its a prosecution. The nazi who shoots the guy is the defense.

          3. Number.6

            Depends who gets the jump on who first.

            If the Nazi who was attacked initiated the altercation, because his insignia was ‘an assault’, then the whole situation changes.

          4. kinnath

            The insignia cannot be an assault per SCOTUS 40 fucking years ago.

        4. Q Continuum

          Paraphrasing from the previous thread, I find the saddlebags from fat girls in yoga pants to be genuinely threatening, so I’m going to kick their fat asses.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Bringing it up this often seems to indicate a fetish…

            /just sayin’

          2. Q Continuum

            DON’T JUDGE ME.

          3. Tundra

            My buddy describes the phenomenon as ‘two wildcats fighting it out in a sack’.

        5. R C Dean

          The problem is that if a sympathetic court was told by Group B that they *genuinely* feared for their safety as a result of Individual A wearing NAZI insignia, they have a defense.

          Except that “genuine” (subjective) fear is not the standard (unless you are a cop). The standard is an (objective) ‘”reasonable person” standard. To say that someone is authorized to gun down any individual wearing Nazi insignia under an objective standard, you have to say that everyone is authorized to gun them down. I don’t think that’s actually the law.

        6. EvilSheldon

          I don’t have my references handy, but as far as I remember, a claim of self-defense requires a reasonable fear of death or bodily harm.

          1. EvilSheldon

            Also, what RC Dean said.

    2. Number.6

      BRB. Hold my coat.

    3. bacon-magic

      Next they will punch the Libertarians.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        “First they came for libertarians, but I said nothing because Reason isn’t libertarian”

        1. bacon-magic

          See, that’s why I like it here. Comments like that are gold.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Note that this guy really, really hates libertarians.

          https://i.imgur.com/HzBRhkX.png

          1. bacon-magic

            +1 roadz

          2. libertarianjoe

            “To get a good definition of “libertarian”, find a definition of fascism and replace “race” with “self””

            ….disregarding that this is an absurd and bizarre statement….

            Where the hell is the word “race” used in defining fascism? Is this guy really that ignorant?

          3. “Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.… National pride has no need of the delirium of race.” -Benito Mussolini

            I think they are desperate to tie it to race, because aside from that and nationalism their views line up with Nazis very, very closely. Replaces Jews with the 1% and Hitler’s speeches would be interchangeable with Sanders’.

          4. R C Dean

            To get a good definition of “libertarian”, find a definition of fascism and replace “race” with “self

            Fascism = socialism + racism

            Libbertarianism = socialism + self

            Don’t think that actually works.

          5. kbolino

            If you don’t think too hard and don’t examine what fascism actually was, you can kind of see that he’s saying something like “fascism is about elevating one race above all others” and so “libertarianism is about elevating (my)self above all others”.

          6. R C Dean

            And socialism is dragging everyone else down to the bottom.

        2. kinnath

          By New Year’s Eve, I will have a handgun. This is why.

          1. DOOMco

            a little frightening, that statement.
            Pick a gun?

          2. kinnath

            Leaning towards Sig P938.

          3. bacon-magic

            Don’t drop it.

          4. DOOMco

            They do look nice. never got a chance to shoot one.

          5. Number.6

            Nice gun, but do go shoot it first.

          6. Number.6

            Bacon: that was the P320. P938’s a totes different beast.

          7. bacon-magic

            I love Sig, was just running with the sigburnathon going on right now. Had a p226 & p228. Awesome, well made weapons.

          8. kinnath

            The local range has classes and a nice selection of handguns for rent. So, I will definitely be trying the P938 and its competitors before buying anything.

          9. Somalian Road Corporation

            Yeah, I need something to replace my P3AT and I’ve been looking at one of those as well.

          10. Gray Ghost

            Why wait until then?

          11. kinnath

            I reside in Iowa. I need to get a permit to buy a handgun, or I need to get a concealed carry permit. The concealed carry permit comes with the presumption that you intend to buy a handgun.

            The law requires classes, background checks, and forms to be filled out with the county sheriff. I am timing the classes and paperwork to line up the annual bonus the company pays out each December.

            I’ve been thinking about it for a couple of years, but my wife inexplicably mentioned getting a concealed carry permit a couple of months ago. So off we go.

            The bullshit from Antifa and SJWs gives me more to be concerned about than any issues with crime out where I live.

          12. Sean

            I would have thought Iowa was more gun friendly than that.

          13. Tundra

            I reside in Iowa.

            Condolences, dude.

          14. kinnath

            Iowa passed “shall issue” 5 or 6 years ago I think. The requirements are not bad, but it will take 60 days to get the concealed carry permit which is good for 5 years I think.

            The last legislature killed the ban on short barreled rifles and shotguns as well as killing the ban on suppressors. We now defer to the Feds.

            Stand your ground was signed into law last summer.

            Not bad for a thoroughly purple state.

          15. Number.6

            Basically the same in the DPRCT on the issuance of permits. Idiotic mag limits and no black rifles though 🙁

          16. Gray Ghost

            Permit for a handgun purchase? Wow, I had no idea that was still a thing in the non-IL MidWest.

            Sounds like a law which, like pretty much all gun control laws, serves to screw over only the law-abiding.

            The 938 is sweet. Be comfy with the 1911 manual of arms before you purchase one. I find the safety a little harder to disengage than a good 1911 safety, but YMMV. Kicks harder than the 238, as you’d expect, and I found it harder to keep on target than the 238. Not objectionable though. Was reliable for the one box of range ammo I ran through it.

            I’ve liked the Glock 43, if you’re interested instead in something striker-fired, about the same size.

            The Spartacus League-esque LARPing of antifa, et al, is certainly getting more and more annoying. I really hope they don’t take a page from their 70s brethren, and figure out bombs anytime soon

    4. DOOMco

      We are in a time where people advocate mob violence over clothing and ideas.
      2017, ladies and gentlemen. We’re getting closer to that “Bad luck” Heinlein was on about.

      1. Gray Ghost

        We are in a time where people advocate mob violence over clothing and ideas.

        I think it’ll get worse after the 2018 elections, whether the Dems do poorly or well. Antifa and BLM are just another get-out-the-vote tactic by the hard Left to encourage their base.

    5. I don’t like this argument because at first glance it seems to condone violence against people as long as their beliefs are really, really bad (which both varieties of socialism definitely are). I prefer to force them to defend that foundational principle by taking it to the logical extreme, e.g. “Why shouldn’t we just kill them for being Nazis?”

      1. Q Continuum

        Of course it’s a terrible argument. Might as well just Godwin the fucking thread; it’s the same argument that led actual Nazis to shovel (((them))) into ovens.

        1. Would a thread about punching Nazis be auto-Godwinned by its very nature?

          1. Q Continuum

            Good point.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            I think there’s a valid loophole. It’s OK to compare someone to a NAZI if they do in fact claim that they’re a NAZI.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        I think that many people have already taking the thought experiment to this extreme.

        They’re acting out D-Day fantasies.

    6. Q Continuum

      Escalation of this is what actually leads to Civil War. It’s one more small step in that direction.

    7. Ken Shultz

      I don’t necessarily think it’s okay to punch a Nazi or a communist, but sometimes it doesn’t matter whether it’s okay.

      Sometimes, we do things that aren’t okay, that should be illegal, and that society should condemn.

      If a drunken idiot says something obnoxious to my daughter or girlfriend, and I punch him in the mouth for it, I should be arrested, it should be illegal, and society should condemn me for it.

      That doesn’t mean I shouldn’t punch someone in the mouth for saying something obnoxious to my daughter or girlfriend. We shouldn’t live in a society that condones violence for what people say, and we shouldn’t live in a society where no one has the balls to punch obnoxious idiots in the mouth.

      Nazis and communists can be really obnoxious idiots.

      P.S. As a jury member, I have the right to let boyfriends and dads off the hook for standing up for their girlfriends and daughters, and slapping the shit out of a Nazi or a communist, too. And that’s exactly as it should be.

      1. R C Dean

        I’m having a hard time not concluding that you would actually vote to acquit someone accused of initiating violence on a political opponent, if you happened to dislike their political opponent yourself.

        Pretty unprincipled, Ken. Is that really what you meant to say?

        Why should you expect to walk after punching someone in the mouth for insulting your daughter? Why not accept the consequences of your actions? If you’re saying someone insulting your daughter isn’t worth doing some jail time, why is it worth punching someone?

        1. I think he’d punch Rand Paul for voting against Graham-Cassidy. 😉

  4. Q Continuum

    “Puerto Rico needs an unknown amount of money to return power to 1% of that number”

    Well that’s not counting all the money they need for other stuff, like…. avoiding bankruptcy?

    1. Brett L

      I couldn’t be arsed to look at how much money the power company owes, but basically, no one will give them credit to buy the stuff they need to fix the power because they are so bankrupt. How the fuck does a power monopoly on an island go bankrupt? Its like running out of cash at a Fed printer.

      1. DOOMco

        “why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam?”

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Venezuela problem: No more fucking paper!

    2. The Other Kevin

      Once they get that big pile of money, they’ll get around to paying for power after other, more important things like cronyism, corruption, and bs social programs. If there is any money left. Kind of like how they do it in Illinois.

    3. India won’t be able to electrify those 300M for $2.5B either.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Bad translation, it was supposed to be ‘electrocute’.

  5. “India has a plan to supply power to 300M people for $2.5B”

    So, how much money do you think that will actually take? I’m gonna be conservative and say about double what’s projected right now.

    1. Florida Man

      Being they are having trouble collecting on power they are supplying to current customers and this plan requires them to give away electricity to poor people, I’m going to say a lot more.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Yeah, I doubt it’s even metered.

        It’s like Mexico and gasoline. When you need gas, you just help yourself to the pipeline. It’s great, except for the occasional kaboom.

        1. Florida Man

          Which brings up an interesting problem. If you have a country where no one respects property rights and is going to steal electricity anyways, why not give electricity away and tax everyone to pay for it?

          1. Playa Manhattan

            *whispers*
            I think we can trust the Indian tax collectors.

          2. Florida Man

            Ok, they can see my trillion dollar bill.

          3. Why do you think they got rid of “high”-denomination banknotes?

  6. DOOMco

    T/W boing-boing

    I think it’s
    Trigger. Warning: bang bang

  7. Juvenile Bluster

    You’re going to link to a “lumberjack” song and it’s not this one?

    1. Mad Scientist

      Refresh, you!

  8. Q Continuum

    Once again, wrap your whacker before you attack her (or him).

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sex-diseases-us-surge-record-high-172946444.html

  9. Negroni Please

    Come on Tampa lurkers.

    I’m Here To Help posted his email in the hurricane thread, so if he doesn’t pipe up today I’ll look it up and drop him a line.

    1. I’m Here To Help

      Sorry – I’ve been in DC for work the better part of the week and haven’t had much time to be on here.

      So, what are the plans?

  10. Playa Manhattan

    The silence on Puerto Rico is deafening.

    Remember all of the shit talking only 3 weeks ago about the lack of zoning laws being responsible for the disaster in Houston? Yeah, me too.

    How’s the disaster in the bankrupt, failed socialist state going?

    1. Q Continuum

      That’s different because shut up.

    2. DOOMco

      “they’re too poor and stupid to know any better” seems like something someone might say without thinking.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        “they’re too poor and stupid to know any better” is one on the underpinnings of the “white privilege” argument, so they are saying it.

        But it’s OK, because it’s the good kind of racism.

        1. DOOMco

          A friend of mine gets in an online fight about that shit being racist or yelling at people for the “white people can’t experience racism” stuff. it’s fucking hourly, but she’s pretty good at it. She swings between bernie stuff and ancapistan, so who knows what’s going on.

          1. “She swings between bernie stuff and ancapistan”

            That is…quite substantial swinging.

          2. DOOMco

            She just has to get the “i can’t force my utopia, either” thing.
            the title isn’t great.
            I’ve sent and said things like this.

          3. Somalian Road Corporation

            Yeah, anyone with a mentality like that is probably doing all sorts of swinging. Don’t forget the strict regimen of drug use to keep the mind limber.

          4. RBS

            Pics?

          5. Playa Manhattan

            2nded. That’s just crazy enough to be smoking hot.

          6. DOOMco

            she is.

          7. DOOMco

            She just said she’s in a relationship with pornhub, so maybe there’s something there?

          8. bacon-magic

            PICS or gtfo

          9. DOOMco

            That instagram is locked.

          10. Q Continuum

            Ummmmm, you need to go for it.

        2. No, racism is discrimination + institutional power*, so as long as a straight white male isn’t saying it, by definition** it can’t be racist.

          *Never mind a black president, or affirmative action, etc

          **Yes, we made that up, but questioning it is mansplaining and racist, so shut up!

          1. DOOMco

            “so a white single mother in a trailer park has more power than Obama?”

          2. Not an Economist

            Yes.

    3. grrizzly

      Does CNN have any reporters in Puerto Rico? I’m not travelling now, so I have no idea. But they were covering Irma non-stop.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Lester Holt flew out yesterday. So stunning and brave.

        Seriously, that WAS the story. Lester Holt is going to Puerto Rico. News at 11.

      2. jesse.in.mb

        I’m not travelling now

        I take it you only watch CNN when you’re a captive audience in an airport?

        1. grrizzly

          Precisely. TVs in every airport lounge are tuned to CNN.

          1. jesse.in.mb

            At best. Occasionally it’s MSNBC.

          2. grrizzly

            At this point it’s a distinction without difference.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            I was talking to a reliably proggie Irish acquaintance and they’d just started getting MSNBC. He was baffled that I saw them as a ham-fisted attempt to do a lefty Fox News and saw them as a left-leaning news source. I looked it up and apparently before they got wider international distribution they culled their OpEd stuff (although it’s still their flagship content) and focused more on straight news with progressive roots.

            So on the bright side, it’s not just a long slide for CNN moving leftward, but MSNBC stumbling away from being 100% Keith Olbermann screaming impotently

          4. grrizzly

            Could it be that MSNBC created the “MSNBC International” product and that’s what they watch in Ireland? I know that CNN we have in the US and CNN International are very different products. Only a few programs from the US market were shown on CNN International when I watched it (like “Larry King Live”), the rest was content from London and stuff like Business Asia. Of course, when something big happens then it’s CNN Live everywhere.

          5. jesse.in.mb

            Certainly possible, but I did read that MSNBC had explicitly divested themselves of a lot of their OpEd stuff to focus on straight news presentation because they’d so consistently been lagging the other news networks. It could be a little of column A and a lot of column B. I’m not particularly interested in giving MSNBC any attention regardless.

    4. mexican sharpshooter
      1. Gustave Lytton

        Let’s ask Oscar Lopez Rivera if Puerto Ricans are Americans.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          First, let me look up who this guy is…..

          …..YES! Let’s ask him!

          1. Gustave Lytton

            From wiki:

            U.S. President Bill Clinton offered López Rivera and 13 other convicted FALN members clemency in 1999, on condition they renounce violence, but López Rivera rejected it. On January 17, 2017, President Barack Obama commuted López Rivera’s sentence and he was released from prison on May 17, 2017, after 35 years in prison.

            Way to go, Big 0.

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            What better time to incite a riot on that island than now?

          3. R C Dean

            On January 17, 2017, President Barack Obama commuted López Rivera’s sentence and he was released from prison on May 17, 2017, after 35 years in prison.

            Can a President revoke another President’s commutation of a sentence? A pardon strikes me as a different beast, but is commuting a sentence irrevocable?

          4. kbolino

            Doutbful. The Constitution draws no distinction between “commutations” (= get out of jail, but keep your record) and “pardons” (= as though it never happened). Legally speaking, the former is just treated as a “lesser” pardon, but the same Constitutional provision applies.

      2. “Of course I knew that. Miss Puerto Rico was always a classy broad at our pageants.”

  11. Q Continuum

    Not that this is a surprise or even news, but it’s always good to remember what a bunch of corrupt, useless, reprehensible, spineless failures “represent” us.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/26/obamacare-repeal-failure-republican-senate-243148

    1. “Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Republicans are not giving up on a health care bill but made clear he wants a quick pivot to another issue where Republicans hope to notch a legislative victory: taxes.”

      We haven’t given up, we just want to postpone it until we’re a minority party again.

      1. Urthona

        They should have more senators next year, although I have a feeling some establishment types will get axed and replaced by Trumpians.

    2. Spartan Dad

      It will be interesting to see if anything happens in the primaries.

      1. The Zenome Project

        Oh, I guarantee that there will be lots of defeated incumbents in the primaries. Most vulnerable senator right now is Flake in AZ, who is down by double digits right now to the Ron Paul-influenced Kelli Ward. Another libertarian-ish guy named Danny Tarkanian is running in NV against a turncoat senator named Heller who voted for repeal when Obama was president and against when Trump was president.

    3. Bobarian LMD

      The government we deserve… good and hard.

  12. PBRstreetgang
    1. Chipwooder

      It’s going to go way beyond that. Those are just the guys they have the goods on right now. Once those Adidas execs start talking to investigators to secure pleas, there will be a LOT of schools involved.

      Not mine though, of course, since we never get 5 star kids anyway.

      1. PBRstreetgang

        Oh yeah, this is only the beginning. Nice to have gone to a school where I am not even the least bit worried about getting caught up in this.

      2. B.P.

        Yep. If the top 20 or so teams get lengthy postseason suspensions, my team has an outside chance of making the tourney.

      3. mexican sharpshooter

        I don’t get it, did the FBI just ruin everyone’s bracket?

    2. Drake

      Why would the FBI investigate this? How is this against the law?

      Properly understood, the NCAA is an illegal wage-fixing scheme.

      – Iowahawk

      1. invisible finger

        Trump told Comey to “wiretap the corrupt black guy.”

      2. Chipwooder

        Bribing officials from organizations (read: the college coaches) that accept federal grant money. There are also wire fraud and money laundering charges mentioned.

        1. Psycho Effer

          So, nothing that should be illegal in a free society.

  13. DOOMco

    I think all of you will be able to use this clip in the future. or in a few seconds, in response to something I say.

    1. bacon-magic

      I would never say that about you.

      1. DOOMco

        *finger guns* ayyyyy.

  14. Rick C-137

    So woke, so empowered, so Saudi

    Saudi Arabia to let women drive at last – CNN
    https://apple.news/AtJpZG0kbTmeradVrFo3p3w

    1. Q Continuum

      “Saudi Arabia was already better than the USA for women and now it’s improved even more!”

      -Prog Feminists

      1. Nah, prog feminists just ignore the middle east entirely. It’s much harder to rail against the evil patriarchy oppressing women in the U.S. when it’s compared to a legit patriarchy oppressing women there.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Except for Israel, whom they blame for oppressing Palestinian women. For some reason.

        2. thepasswordispassword

          I’m reminded of a picture of a self described Swedish Feminist government literally submitting to a middle eastern Patriarch.

      2. Mad Scientist

        Progs will see this as regression. They want no one driving cars.

    2. I’ll be honest, I don’t like to mock them on stuff like this. Yeah, they are we far behind where they should be, but when they increase liberty I don’t think we should ridicule them for starting so far behind us. That kinda stuff should be encouraged, hopefully with more to follow in the future.

      1. Rick C-137

        Eh, I’m inclined to concur, but I don’t think this is coming from a freedom friendly place. Sure it can have good consequences and be applauded, just not too much. That kingdom is still assbackwards and I think validating this move too much would not have a net gain.

        1. Rick C-137

          I realize that may read confusing. Let me clarify. I think that it’s a good move, but patting them on the back rather than pushing them forward may stall progress.

    3. Sour Kraut

      Linda Sarsour hardest hit.

    4. invisible finger

      They’re just trying to stop Uber before it starts.

    5. Gustave Lytton

      Judging by the crappy drivers around here, I’m not sure that’s a positive change.

    6. Slammer

      Are we sure they mean driving cars?
      Maybe they mean camels

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      But but… Mike Pence won’t be alone with a woman who’s not his wife!

      1. Akira

        The fuss over Pence’s non-wife avoidance policy was kind of odd to me.

        The various anti-Trump people seem to think that his administration is soooooo uniquely evil that literally any method of attack is acceptable. And we already know that the Lefties are not shy about using false rape accusations in an effort to bring down Trump. In light of that, why is it so loony for Pence to avoid putting himself in a situation where he could be accused of rape?

        Of course, I’m not a mind-reader and I don’t know his motives. But I can’t say I blame him for avoiding being alone with women who aren’t his wife.

        1. Trump (R) privately brags about how goldiggers will just let him be sexual with them = omg so sexist!

          Pence (R) tries to avoid any appearance or temptation of infidelity = ong so sexist!

          Weiner (D) sexes pictures to minors = he cried, he’s so brave to admit his failings, we should give him a chance

          Bill Clinton (D) uses his position of power to coerce women into sex = fake scandal, those harlots are lying, and who cares about his sex life?

          I’m beginning to notice a pattern…

          1. Tundra

            You know, it’s almost as if the proggies value principals over principles…

    2. Urthona

      Read that this morning. I always appreciate first hand communism survival stories. What an evil philosophy.

      1. leonadasiv

        Not defending the philosophy at all. But people do evil things. I think that’s the allure of communism and fascism. It’s a justification for evil people to do evil things.

        1. Microaggressor

          You’d be surprised. A lot of the True Believers genuinely believe they’re creating a utopia, even those at the top. They believe the ends justify the means, so the genocides are rationalized as a necessary cost for a world so much better that it outweighs any previous wrongdoing. And that’s how they sleep at night. Ideology is a powerful tool of deception.

          1. CatoTheElder

            “If the ends don’t justify the means, what does?” — Saul Alinsky

            “The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end.” Leon Trotsky, Their Morals and Ours

            “You have to crack eggs to make an omelet.” — Every communist ever.

  15. Rufus the Monocled

    “…The Earth’s ozone layer would have collapsed by 2050 with catastrophic consequences without the Montreal Protocol, studies have shown….”

    Riiiight.

    Like they’ve never been wrong with targets, eh?

    Jesus me.

    1. Q Continuum

      Doomsday is very profitable donchaknow?

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Quebec in its report on the state of the French language declared Bill 101 a success because French was thriving in Quebec and has never been healthier.

        That is, until it’s time to attack English again for election time.

        But the little tidbit they don’t mention is it came at the expense of choice; freedom of choice as well as coercive and punitive measures that sometimes rise to petty attacks on the English language (fines against store owners who run afoul of the language laws) and senseless demands on store signs that do absolutely fuck all in protecting, preserving or enhancing the language. In fact, it’s my contention it demeans not only the language but the people.

        This is what that article reminds me of.

      2. Bobarian LMD

        You just want to make sure that you never actually reach the date on the wall.

    2. bacon-magic

      You’re not Jesus, your name is Rufus.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Looks into asshole.

        Why. Why it is Rufus!

  16. F. Stupidity Jr.

    Women are the primary victims of friendly fire

    “It is my hope that his memory should always remind people that we must come together. Pat’s service, along with that of every man and woman’s service, should never be politicized in a way that divides us. We are too great of a country for that. Those that serve fight for the American ideals of freedom, justice and democracy. They and their families know the cost of that fight. I know the very personal costs in a way I feel acutely every day.”

    If the 4chan crowd caught wind of this, your wishes are about to be thoroughly and utterly denied.

    1. Chipwooder

      This is what annoys me, all the talk about “divides us”, “divisive”, etc. The protests themselves are what is dividing people. They consciously, starting with Kaepernick, chose this vehicle of protest precisely because they knew it would attract the most attention as it was going to piss a lot of people off.

      1. DOOMco

        kind of the whole point of one, right? So we block traffic to yell about cops and now kneel during the anthem over various things.
        have a very good argument ready, there will be questions.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        I’m going to say this one more time before I sign it over to Gilmore:

        Colin Kaepernick is the Westboro Baptist Church of professional sports.

          1. invisible finger

            The left does like to wallow in its victimhood. Even places like Detroit and Chicago are still digging out from the wreckage of their prior Republican regimes in the 19th century.

      3. Juvenile Bluster

        Being absolutely fair here (who the fuck am I, Robby Soave?), if protest isn’t disruptive, what’s the point of it?

        1. bacon-magic

          ^
          I knew it.
          *takes off aluminum hat*
          “I’m going out to celebrate this solved mystery at Chipotle.”

          1. Juvenile Bluster

            Does anyone know where I can get some fruit sushi?

            Does anyone know what the fuck fruit sushi actually is?

          2. bacon-magic
          3. Playa Manhattan

            It’s regular fruit in small portions with a 500% hipster markup.

          4. invisible finger

            Raw, gender-fluid fish?

      4. Drake

        Steyn makes that point pretty well.

        on Sunday two dozen kneeling Americans decided to rise to their feet for Britain’s national anthem. Because they understood that were they to remain kneeling they would be regarded by their London hosts as boorish graceless ignorant clods – which, in fact, they are, with respect to their own anthem. We stand for the anthems of foreigners not out of allegiance but out of Moulton’s “good form”….

        …For anyone who wishes to live in a civilized society where the observance of social norms can be safely assumed, this wretched business is a loss – for what remains of social cohesion, for “true civilization” and for “the real greatness of a nation”. A national anthem can be a national anthem or an opportunity for self-expression, but not both. And, if this is yet one more thing that Americans can no longer agree on, if a people lack the minimal social glue to rise reflexively when the band strikes up the first bars of “O-oh, say, can you…”, you have to wonder whether anything remains to bind us together at all.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I wish they’d read the bill of Rights instead of singing the anthem.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Read the … whuhhh

            I bet you just want to go back to owning slaves, shitlord!

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          you have to wonder whether anything remains to bind us together at all.

          The printing presses at the US Mint do a pretty good job of it.

          1. Tundra

            Boobs.

            Boobs will keep us together, Scruffy.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Wasn’t that a Captain and Tennille song?

          3. Tundra

            A classic.

          4. Number.6

            The Tubes did a cover of it too.

          5. Tundra

            Fee Waybill is an underrated genius.

          6. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I met Fee at a Tubes concert once in San Diego. Seemed to be a nice guy even though they were playing to a pitifully small audience.

          7. Number.6

            Most of the band are/were. Spooner particularly.

          8. Mad Scientist

            It was Joy Division.

          9. Q Continuum

            YES.

        3. Gustave Lytton

          Out of respect or because they didn’t want to be seen as subjects of HM Queen Elizabeth?

          1. DOOMco

            have you seen their tax rates?!

      5. JaimeRoberto

        It takes two to be divisive.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      They don’t let you in if you’ve had a DUI in the last decade.

      1. invisible finger

        Don’t they want to sell Moosehead?

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      See you ‘Muricans?

      That’s how it’s done.

      Be very, very quiet about protecting your borders.

      /Elmer Fudd voice.

      1. bacon-magic

        Bravo flappy heads, I say bravo.

    3. Obama was being sensible: he was rewarding someone who embarrassed his predecessor.

  17. Rufus the Monocled

    Still think there’s such a thing as ‘peak derp’?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/opinion/weiner-sexting-sentencing-prison.html?mcubz=1

    “Sally L. Satel (@slsatel) is a psychiatrist and resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.”

    Interesting.

    1. B.P.

      “Mr. Weiner cried as he pleaded guilty to one count of transferring obscene material to a minor, a crime that carried up to 10 years in prison.”

      *sniffle. wimper* “I’m gonna get my ass kicked for 21 straight months!”

      1. Mad Scientist

        There’s no way that piece of garbage will be in the clink that long.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Federal prison. He will.

          1. Gray Ghost

            Is “tennis prison” i.e., the Federal Correctional Facility at Lompoc, CA, still a thing? It was for the Watergate defendants, IIRC.

            Though when googling “tennis prison” I’m boggled that San Quentin, per a Vice documentary, actually has a program for that.

            So he’ll do pretty much all of his time, unless some of it gets converted to home confinement/halfway house, etc…, but he’ll get one hell of a forehand and a tan.

          2. Number.6

            If federal, I’d expect Danbury, CT.

            Near enough the city to help him see the people in the business of reforming his reputation and getting a NYC gig again.

    2. Playa Manhattan

      “This may sound odd, but I admire Anthony Weiner for what he did on Monday. He stood tearfully before the judge and acknowledged several compatible truths: that he was responsible for his action, that he is accepting the consequences, and that he needs help so that he can liberate himself from those compulsions, or, at the very least, stop acting on them.”

      Yes, that does sound odd.

      He said what his high priced lawyers told him to say to get the lightest possible sentence. So admirable.

      1. “I take full responsibility for my actions.”

        Translation: Ok, you caught me red-handed and it’s so bad I can’t plausibly lie my way out, but I still don’t want to be punished for this.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        How many times again did he deflect and demand no one judge him whenever his past was brought up prior to finally getting nabbed?

        She’s not a very good psychologist I’m thinking.

        1. Not an Economist

          He said the same thing the last time … and the time before. I don’t know if he will ever get it. Probably not.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Eh, politicians are generally sociopaths who can lie without feeling any remorse. He means none of it, it’s just what he felt he had to say at that moment to maximize results.

      3. invisible finger

        Did he kneel before the judge?

      4. Urthona

        Fucking statists. It shouldn’t even be illlegal to send pictures of your dick to 16 year olds.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          But it is. And he did it. And as a statist himself, he would have punished others for it. I’m not exactly upset about it.

          Interestingly, the defense was considering a “she initiated the whole thing” defense. And for the record, she did. Wisely, they chose not to pursue that defense. The sentence almost certainly would have been in years and not months.

          1. Urthona

            I was kind of joking, actually, but I didn’t even know that.

            Actually, if “she initiated the whole thing” it does make me question the justice of it. 16 is clearly an arbitrary cutoff point not based on any biology. Hmm… maybe my trolling can turn into a real thing.

      5. Gray Ghost

        He said what his high priced lawyers told him to say to get the lightest possible sentence. So admirable.

        I forget how many downward departures in the Guidelines, cooperation with the USA, acknowledgement of ones crimes, expressions of remorse, and desire for restitution, get you, but I’m sure it’s considerable.

        Though I don’t know where he’s going to serve his time, I’m pretty sure it’s not going to be some garden spot like ADX Florence or Marion. Putting on the requisite mien at sentencing helps avoid places like that.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          As far as the federal system goes, this sentence was very generous. IIRC, he was convicted on 1 count.

          A normal would be facing a far harsher penalty.

          “Oh, you were sexting a minor? That’s a separate charge for each ASCII character you sent via SMS!”

  18. Q Continuum

    Soros’ son is a chip off the ol’ block; and he looks like a douchebag hipster to boot.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/alexander-soros-outpacing-father-contributions-cycle/

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      So punchable.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      He donated to Tom Periello? Jesus.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Expand. Some of us aren’t so well read.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Tom Periello was the retarded Bernie Sanders if the Virginia gubernatorial primary.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            My name is Tom Per-riellooo. I like de color pink!

    3. B.P.

      He looks like a dog with a treat balanced on his nose.

    4. one true athena

      my favorite trivia bit about that dirtbag is that he’s a PhD candidate at … Berkeley! of course he is. According to Wiki, he even keeps a home there, though who knows how often he’s actually there.

      But I do wonder how much of the UCB bullshit this year can be traced to him. I know the mayor’s a POS antifa/BAMN person anyway, so maybe he didn’t have to do anything, but still. it’s … interesting.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        Yo. Aren’t you in the area? A few of us were planning on meeting up on Friday probably DTLA-ward. One who moved away but has returned is going to be in town.

        Any other LA-area types are welcome to chime in.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          IT’S A TRAP

          1. Mad Scientist

            I’ll be there, signing autographs on women’s breasts. Just let me know who’s autograph you want.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            “Love, Fonz”

        2. one true athena

          I am! But my dad has heart surgery on Thurs, so I’ll be keeping my mom company while he’s in the hospital. but next time!

    1. Playa Manhattan

      I guess taking a nap was insufficient.

    2. bacon-magic

      Elf money shot

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s a new cuddling avoidance technique.

    4. Without reading, going to guess when the orgasm is caused by stimulation from candiru activity.

      *Reads article*

      Nope, not even close. Still pretty scary though

    5. jesse.in.mb

      Lame, I was expecting an article on David Carradine.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        -1 Hung Fu

        1. Gray Ghost

          -1 Hung Fu

          Can’t believe I hadn’t read that jape before. Well done.

    6. Brett L

      The little death.

    7. Bobarian LMD

      Are you saying that this isn’t normal?

      1. Bobarian LMD

        This seems to me to be the most terrifying way to orgasm.

    8. Humorously, one of the links as the bottom of the article was, “Here are the bizarre, totally unbelievable reasons fall for this type of clickbait”.

      No, I didn’t click on it.

    1. bacon-magic

      Her shirt is trippy.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Was expecting Lady Miss Kier from Deee-Lite in the link.

        1. Tundra

          Would.

  19. mexican sharpshooter

    DHS planning to collect social media info on all immigrants

    In May, the Trump administration approved a new questionnaire for visa applicants that requests social media handles for the past five years, as well as biographical information going back 15 years.

    I was under the impression that one has not immigrated if they are currently applying for a visa.

    1. grrizzly

      Nobody ever uses the correct terminology when writing about immigration/visa issues.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      You could be here on one type of visa and then apply for another type of visa. For example, someone on an F-1 student visa, if they find a sponsor, could then apply for an H1-B visa. I believe this is technically called “adjustment of status”.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      He dun fucked up. Unless he wants to be expelled, that is.

      1. Brett L

        I think they walked out and handed him a commission. He’ll make general in record time.

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        The sad part is expulsion really just means he is “punished” by serving the remainder of his time as an enlisted troop.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          He is already graduated and commissioned. If he was serious about this shit, he’ll likely be investigated and possibly discharged under ‘Other Than Honorable’ conditions at worst, and more likely to get bad report cards and allowed to leave after a short while.

          1. Gray Ghost

            From what I’ve read, his CoC at Fort Drum, his current duty station, is well aware of his shenanigans, and is taking measures to remedy them.

            He’s got some classmates that are probably going to go down too, if their pro-Communism facebook etc postings mirror their actual actions.

            Makes you wonder how many feel the same as him, but have the brains to keep it on the down low.

            I’d love to see the USMA try to get their money back from Lieutenant Rapone.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      “Lucky” for him, they now “frown” upon “hazing” at the academy.

      1. Brett L

        Hopefully, everyone henceforth from he lowliest private to the CINC address him as “Hey, you commie fuck” Or “you commie fuck, sir” as appropriate.

    3. invisible finger

      Bah. The bloated US military is a by-product of our devolution into socialism.

      1. Akira

        No, I have it on good authority that war and militarism are only products of capitalism and that when Real Socialism™ arrives, there will be no need for a military.

    4. Vhyrus

      He looks like a fucking serial killer, which seems to go well with his political leanings.

    5. Tacit Rainbow

      He’s boned.

      Apparently just failed out of ranger school too.

      1. Gilmore

        according to this he was already an enlisted ranger before going to West Point

        http://popularmilitary.com/openly-communist-us-army-officer-prior-enlisted-army-ranger-served-combat/

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Perhaps he can find another army that’s more to his liking.

        2. Gray Ghost

          Scrolled, i.e. a member of the Regiment; not tabbed, i.e. a graduate of Ranger School, is my understanding.

          Which is weird, as I thought 75th made pretty much all of their combat arms guys go through Ranger School as soon as possible. I never was a military guy, so maybe they let guys do deployments w/o it and just push them to do it as soon as they get back.

          1. Gilmore

            well, i saw Surviving The Cut. Once.

            (gives 1000-yard stare)

          2. Tacit Rainbow

            Doh, I’m late, but exactly that. Supposedly got his RFS for “being a gigantic piece of shit”. Couldn’t pass mountain after graduating USMA this year.

        3. Tacit Rainbow

          Ranger deployment != Ranger School. Folks from the 75th are saying he got RFSed five months in. Still gets the scroll.

          The other folks are saying he failed mountain twice, so he’s back to Ft. Drum and won’t ever get his tab.

      2. Chipwooder

        His life is about to become very unpleasant. Good. I hope like hell that they demand repayment for his West Point education when they kick his worthless was out.

    6. Rufus the Monocled

      How beyond incredibly stupid can one person be?

      A Che t-shirt? Really. You ruin your reputation and potentially your job prospects (or even life) over a murderous punk who killed gays and farmers? Sometimes for FUN?!

      ANYONE who wear a Che t-shirt is a loser and ignoramus.

      1. Mad Scientist

        Yeah, the most charitable thing you can say about someone wearing a Che t-shirt is that they’re pathetically ignorant.

      2. thepasswordispassword

        Not just a Che shirt. He’s a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. Hung an anti-fa flag in his dorm. Also seen posted selfies posing with the communist manifesto. He’s red dyed in the wool.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That comment collapsed catastrophically

    2. Brett L

      SF’d it, but didn’t Gilmore it.

    3. Gilmore

      it doesn’t matter, it was just a captain planet clip

    1. Mad Scientist

      He’s dead wrong. That flipped over car has clearly stopped.

      1. Technically, it’s revolving around the sun and the center of the galaxy.

        1. Mad Scientist

          And headed towards Andromeda at 400,000 km per hour.

  20. Tundra

    The Trolls Royce Is Better Than Any Car You’ll Ever Own

    Meet the Trolls Royce, a 1978 Silver Shadow II with a big twin-scroll turbocharger, an external intercooler, a four-speed manual from a Ford pickup, and a suspension built for off-roading. It is totally, utterly bonkers.

    This makes my day. The creativity and insanity of car guys reminds us that there is still beauty in the world.

      1. Tundra

        Cool site. Nice combination of fun build and practical stuff.

        Thanks!

        1. DOOMco

          yeah it’s a nice balance of education and “because racecar”

    1. Mad Scientist

      There was a Rolls just like that (minus the turbos etc.) for sale here about 2 years ago for $2,000. I nearly bought it to turn it into a race car just for the giggles.

      1. Tundra

        I want to buy a totaled Tesla and drop a big stinky V8 in it.

          1. Tundra

            Perfect!

          2. Playa Manhattan

            Pssshh. They don’t even have free Prime next day delivery.

        1. Mad Scientist

          Would!

        2. Playa Manhattan

          Can I have the battery packs?

          1. Tundra

            Yes.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            Sucker. I would have paid you for them.

          3. Tundra

            Sucker. You get to tear them out.

      2. mikey

        Yeah,you can get stuff like this for surprisingly short money. They’re complex and not what you’d call reliable They’re really expensive to have a dealer fix. The people who buy them new only want the latest thing. Perfect car for idiots (I mean that in a good way).

        1. Tundra

          I’d still rather have an Austin-Healey 3000 🙂

  21. Gustave Lytton

    Tax dollars to pay for illegals’ DACA renewals.

    From a city that consistently claims they’re too broke to continue basic city services without extra money.

  22. Q Continuum

    Say it with me children, this is *bad* for the NFL.

    http://archive.is/Elts3

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Somebody at Direct TV is ticked off

    2. RBS

      Everyone keeps pointing out how the ratings were pretty high this week. Which is fine but I want to know what the ratings look like next weekend and for the remainder of the season. Seems like the high ratings this week could be attributed to more people tuning in to see who stands/kneels or no-shows.

      1. DOOMco

        or people who don’t watch started to. I doubt that’ll continue at any length, but who knows?

      2. invisible finger

        I don’t watch a lot of NFL, but I cannot remember seeing any televised National Anthems during regular season games. Why would people tune in to something that is never shown?

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          On occasion they play it for prime time games.

      3. bacon-magic

        The media is padding the stats for SJW’s …they all have come to the conclusion that a civil war is in order and facts don’t matter anymore.

      4. Playa Manhattan

        The stadiums in Los Angeles and San Francisco are EMPTY.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          They were empty last season too. SF’s stadium is in a terrible area and the team’s awful, nobody went to see the Rams last year, and nobody in Los Angeles gives a shit about the Chargers.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            USC had more attendance last week than the Rams and Chargers combined.

            As we know from the NCAA indictments earlier, USC has the best professional sports in California right now.

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            At the end of the season I am curious how the rating compare between the NFL and College Football.

          3. Playa Manhattan

            I predict that Cal’s ratings are going to go down, like they do every season.

          1. DOOMco

            That’s during a game? mannnn

          2. Mad Scientist

            I don’t understand why anyone would attend those games, and I don’t mean that just because I don’t enjoy football. I mean you’re paying a small fortune for parking and tickets and watered down beer, and your view of the game is much worse than sitting at home watching TV for free with no lines for the bathroom and decent beer. I can’t think of any reason to actually go to the stadium.

          3. Playa Manhattan

            Well well well. It looks like somebody isn’t a fan of getting drunk and fighting in the stands. I thought this was America!

            Dodger stadium has Lagunitas, FYI

          4. Mad Scientist

            How dare you, sir! I’m a proud Irish American and I’ll fight any one for any reason!

            Could I buy a whole 6-pack for the price of a single Lagunitas at Dodger Stadium?

          5. mexican sharpshooter

            I don’t care what beer they have there. Until CA lets me take a gun with me, I am never going to Dodger stadium.

          6. Playa Manhattan

            Your first mistake is asking permission.

            Ohhh… right. The metal detectors.

          7. Playa Manhattan

            IIRC, it’s a dollar more than bud light, but with twice the alcohol.

            Shop smart. Shop S-mart.

          8. Dodger stadium has LagunitasKona, FYI

          9. mexican sharpshooter

            So you can remember that time back in ________ when _______ did this miraculous ________ to _________, and say that you were there?

          10. I go to two or three Indian games a year, and I hardly watch the game at all, I spend the time walking the concourse eating greasy food, drinking overpriced beer, and signing up for credit cards to get floppy hats and cheap t-shirts. It’s the spectacle not the actual game that most people go for.

        2. The Zenome Project

          Surprising, considering that I thought that those would be the places where the SJW/Pinko dreams of the Kaepernick team would play relatively well.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Yeah, but you actually have to buy tickets and show up.

            Tweeting is so much easier.

          2. Juvenile Bluster

            There are other things to do in CA, all 3 teams suck (though the Rams have looked like turning it around this year), both LA teams play in crappy stadiums (LA Memorial is too big and too old, and the Chargers play in a damn soccer stadium), and the 49ers play in… Santa Clara, which is a gigantic pain in the ass to get to from pretty much anywhere in the Bay Area (and the only good thing that’s ever happened at Levi’s Stadium was when Chile beat Mexico 7-0, which is still hilarious)

      5. AlmightyJB

        People are booing but they’re not leaving

      6. CatoTheElder

        Players keep this up, and let’s see what happens for the Superbowl.

        1. It would be interesting – in a few more weeks – to see if the cost of ads shifts at all.

          1. DOOMco

            is it just a capitalist plot to lower the rate for ad space at the superbowl?!

    3. Spartan Dad

      I’ll be interested in seeing if DirecTV releases the cancellation numbers. There were none in the article other than a couple anecdotal reports that they were experience a high volume of cancellations.

      I smiled at the ‘high political stakes’ crap in the article. What are the political stakes again exactly? All I see is are employees giving the finger to their customer base while the business owners cheer them on.

    4. grrizzly

      New Survey: 64 Percent Of Americans Say NFL Players Should Stand For Anthem
      Nearly two-thirds of Americans say NFL players should stand and be respectful during the playing of the national anthem, according to a survey released on Monday.

      A survey by Remington Research Group found that 64 percent of voters agree with President Trump and want players to stand for the anthem. The survey also found that 80 percent of voters want less politics in sports, while 51 percent say they are watching less football than in previous years.

      1. R C Dean

        The real question the NFL should be worried about is, what percentage of NFL fans think players should stand and be respectful during the national anthem? Because I bet its higher than the general public.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Do you mean to tell me that last years’ queer pride parade DIDN’T have an F-22 flyover?????

          1. trshmnstr

            No, but there was plenty of thrust vectoring going on afterward.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Exactly.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        Are progressives aware of that poll?

        Because if they are, I can only conclude that they never want to win an election again.

        1. Somalian Road Corporation

          They have different polls that show almost unanimous support for kneeling. Also, Hillary has a >99% chance of victory.

  23. DOOMco

    I forgot my link for Riven’s anniversary yesterday.

    1. **Snorting laughter**
      Danke xD

      1. DOOMco

        videos like that should not make me laugh as hard as I do.

  24. Gilmore

    The story here (for me) isn’t that he’s forgoing his bonus, but rather than he was supposed to be getting one in the first place

    1. Playa Manhattan

      “company representatives did not respond to requests to elaborate on the reason for his departure.”

      I guess it will forever remain a mystery.

      Everyone I’ve talked to on the business side of things agree that they should be gone forever. It looks like investors are desperately trying to hang on.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Crooks

  25. AlmightyJB

    My employer is so woke they are giving us MLK day off next year. By talking away one of our personal days. Dicks.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Dicks. The whole point of personal days is that you can tack them onto random weekends and get good hotel rates.

      Now you have the same 3 day weekend as everyone else.

      1. AlmightyJB

        In January, in Ohio.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Oh, I’m sure you have a landfill or 2 that you can ski on.

          Or maybe an indoor water park where you can get drunk and ruin it for the kids.

          1. AlmightyJB

            Weekend meth bender

          2. Playa Manhattan

            Ehhhh… that’s kind of on the cusp of a 4 day weekend. You have other personal days, right?

          3. AlmightyJB

            I’ll just call off sick.

          4. You’ve been to Ohio?

    2. Spartan Dad

      Not MLK/Robert E. Lee day?

      Your employer must be a Yankee.

    3. If I were getting a day off like that, If rather it be halfway between New Year’s and Memorial Day.

      1. AlmightyJB

        It’s total bullshit. Typical NJ assholes.

    4. RBS

      You mean Lee, Jackson, King Day?

  26. Lackadaisical

    From a libertarian/anarchist/voluntarist page I follow:

    “IMO, the words “ownership” and “property” have kinda statist/legalist connotations. Like, this is currently your space. You occupy it. But it’s kinda arrogant to assume you have a “divine, god-given” right to be there. Like…cool it with the chest thumping, alpha”

    She got a few fuck-off slavers (though not in those exact words, sadly).

    1. AlmightyJB

      Sad

      1. Tundra

        Seriously. It’s just not that difficult.

      2. I think you mean Sad!

    2. Playa Manhattan

      How does she feel about fences?

      1. Lackadaisical

        I’ll ask.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      So kill yourself and leave your space to us.

      1. kbolino

        She sounds like a Georgist. We had some arguments for Georgism/single land tax awhile ago but the reception among the commenters was… less than enthusiastic, to say the least.

          1. trshmnstr

            Shameless self promotion #2 (all my links to my graphs are broken)

          2. Old Man With Candy

            This will teach you to download the images, then place them as jpgs or pngs into the article. Lazy fucker.

          3. kbolino

            I still have yet to see anyone give a mechanism for determining the basis number for a piece of land that the SLT will be assessed on, so that it’s not just property tax by a different name.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I’m more amenable to sales taxes myself. Tax the activity, not the property.

          1. Number.6

            More $100 bills to throw in that huge swimming pool that you flounder around in, laughing.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Pure linen bearer bonds, thank you very much

          3. trshmnstr

            Same here. I’m all about that FairTax. Why? Because then you’re faced with the “cost of living in society” every time you step up to the cash register and every time you click “buy” on the website.

    4. kbolino

      Does this person know a lot of manorial barons? The idea that anybody has a divine, god-given right to a specific piece of land has never existed in this country. The right you have is to buy and sell deeds to land and while holding the dead to enjoy exclusive use of the land and its resources (subject to the terms of the deed, anyway).

      1. I like to hold the dead and enjoy exclusive use of them.

        1. Mad Scientist

          +1 Norman Bates

      2. Lackadaisical

        Well, I think she is getting at the idea that we have ‘god given rights’, among those the ability to own property. Mostly I think shes just a troll though.

    1. trshmnstr

      I posted my opinion elsewhere, but I’ll put it here, too.

      I get why the NCAA won’t death penalty Louisville for doing illegal stuff while under probation. SMU’s football program is still in shambles 30 years after the death penalty. However, Louisville should get a severe-to-catastrophic penalty. (Penn State and Baylor should have, too) I think Louisville’s basketball program should be banished to D2 for 7-10 years.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Penn States program should have been executed and the remains burned.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          That was page 7 of Sandusky’s playbook.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            It’s funny because it’s true

      2. AlmightyJB

        Yeah, I agree. I think Louisville’s program is probably over for the foreseeable future if there is any meat to this story.

        1. The Zenome Project

          We’ll know how real this is if Pitino takes an NBA gig or something.

  27. The Zenome Project

    The first 2018 news today was that “Mr. Iran” himself, Bob Corker, is running away from the Senate next year because Breitbart was ready to flood his primary. The second news of the day is that Peyton Manning is considering a run in the GOP primary for this seat, but he seems more likely to run in 2020. The biggest news of the day is that Peyton Manning was a secret Nazi all along and that his house needs to be condemned and torched!

  28. trshmnstr

    Its nice to see a patent troll friendly court get slapped around by a higher authority. (T/W boing-boing)

    *Extinguishes the trshmnstr signal*

    You rang?

    A few points:
    1) If we assume that patents are legitimate property rights (which courts like Judge Gilstrap’s must assume), then being a “patent troll” is no worse than being a “hoarder.” Why are you required to put your property to use?

    2) The benefit of bringing cases in the ED Tex was that you had a court that was used to the high-value, highly-complex patent issues. With the venue rules getting struck down, less experienced courts will be handling the cases, resulting in a whole lot more variance in the law.

    3) The basis for this latest push against patent owners is to eventually define a patent as a “public right” instead of a “private right.” Setting aside whether IP is really property for another moment, this completely fucks up the quid pro quo between the patent owner and the public. The idea is that the patent owner publicly discloses their invention in exchange for ownership of a limited term monopoly over the invention. If the limited term monopoly is a “public right,” then the patent owner doesn’t truly own their property.

    We can sometimes get caught up in the philosophical question of whether IP is legitimate property, but while we’re debating that question, the progs are eroding the definition of private property from all sides, including in relation to patents. Whether or not we agree with IP being legitimate property, it is legitimate property in the view of the progs and the political class, and they’re experimenting with ways to undermine ownership of all property under the guise of improving patents.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      E D of TEX has experience like Hillary Clinton has experience.

      There’s a history, but it’s a history of fucking up.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      Simple solution: loser pays. That gets rid of the trolling. It’s not so much a matter of using property rights as it is using the current legal system to mulct money because defendants can’t recover for bullshit cases. I’ve been party to a few of these cases, and it’s remarkable how easy it is for a plaintiff to run up the costs of defense to the point where go-away money becomes the cheapest option.

    3. kbolino

      From a Constitutional standpoint, the key issue is over who constitutes an “inventor”. If you patent something that a bunch of other people are able to come up with independently, how are you the sole inventor who gets to exercise a monopoly on it? The goal, after all, is “to promote the progress of science and useful arts”.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        +1 click buying

      2. trshmnstr

        I think that’s a very interesting conversation to have, because most of the patents I write are of this form:

        Take well-known concept A and apply it in a previously unthoughtof way to context X. For example, take the well known concept of attaching an electronic device to a circuit board with a flexible connector cable and apply it to a cellular phone, and you get a patent for zero bevel touchscreens.

    4. Emmerson Biggins

      IP rights eriode actual property rights too though. so i cant just blame this crap on the usual leftist dill wanks.

  29. Lackadaisical

    So, holding my dick here in ATL, hoping to get to St Croix sometime soon.

    Lessgo FEMA.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Are you going for relief?

      Or is there a fire sale on rooms?

      1. Lackadaisical

        Relief work. If I ever get there.

    2. I’m glad you’re holding your dick, because none of us want to.

      1. Lackadaisical

        Its okay Ted, this is a safe space.

    3. Vhyrus

      If you’re into some of the girls linked at the top there’s probably some very attractive females that will hold your dick for you in your current location.

      Wear a condom.

      1. Lackadaisical

        22, 26 and 39 I think were my choices out of those.

  30. Rufus the Monocled

    The more I hear about the Steelers stunt the more I’m in the camp they’re retarded. Imagine being the sort of ‘protestor’ who lets a 3-tour Army Ranger take the fall for your bull shit.

    No character man. I have a team to root against this year.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      The Steelers, Patriots, and Cowboys should be hated by every football fan not dumb enough to be a fan of one of those 3 teams.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        What did the Cowboys do (other than being the Cowboys of course)?

        1. Vhyrus

          They kneeled before kicking the crap out of the cardinals last night.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Didn’t Jones say a while back he wasn’t going to put up with that?

          2. Bobarian LMD

            I understood that the Cowboys kneeled before the Anthem and stood during, but did not witness it .

      2. Heroic Mulatto

        Somebody is still pissed at 34-28.

    2. Just Say’n

      Also Ben Roethlisberger is kind of a rapist, too

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Nothing beats scum bags protesting the flag.

        It’s all a fucken joke.

  31. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I think the NY Post is enjoying the Weiner decision

    http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/weiner-pops-out-and-disappears/

    1. Vhyrus

      I’m sure the people at the NY Post love their Weiners.

  32. Just Say’n

    Roy Moore pulled out a gun at a campaign rally? Are Republicans just running cartoon characters of ‘what a Republican candidate would look like’ now?

    Kid Rock hardest hit

    1. Vhyrus

      I think the best/worst part is it’s working.

      1. Lackadaisical

        That’ll be my dad in about 10 years.

        1. Vhyrus

          So, my dad has started this thing where he is now bitching about immigrants in this country.

          I tried to re affirm with him that he meant illegal immigrants, but he clarified that he meant ALL immigrants.

          My father, in case anyone doesn’t know, was born in Egypt and moved here with his parents when he was about 18.

          I did the Stewie stare when he loudly declared that “all these fucking immigrants need to go back to their own country!”

          1. Just Say’n

            Somewhat similar incident. My father is also an immigrant and he has complained about immigrants, to a certain extent before. I guess once immigrants start trashing new immigrants they finally become American?

          2. It’s a right of passage.

    2. Lackadaisical

      Yosemite Sam will soon be representing California in the US House from the 4th district.

  33. Mr Lizard

    I am free Friday night and would welcome a meetup with you puny tampa bay mammals.

    1. Vhyrus

      IT’S A TRAP! He obviously needs more mammalian vessels for his world domination!

      1. Mr Lizard

        Actually totally serious. My mate is out on business so I am free to orbitally bombard the town down.

    1. Somalian Road Corporation

      Sorry guys, al-Qaeda messed up my close tag.

      1. Why would I want to watch a video of you jacking off?

    2. Gilmore

      I thought he called his dick the ‘tip of al qaeda’s sword’, which would be pretty metal.

    1. Gilmore

      are even the vocals pre-recorded at hiphop shows now?

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Trap killed hip-hop.

    2. Vhyrus

      Now that’s what I call a Def Jam.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

    3. You could always finger-spell it.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’m not a big fan of the cops but good on them for arresting that violent lunatic.

      1. Lackadaisical

        If you’re going to have police, that is probably the type of person they should be interested in.

    2. Q Continuum

      Isn’t she already on trial for something else?

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yep, assault and battery if memory serves.

        1. Q Continuum

          So, I’m assuming bail revoked, in a jail cell until trial over (I hope)?

  34. Gilmore

    So, i got a notification that Jeff Tucker was giving a talk on a live stream, so i check it out.

    I get no sound. So i mess around with the stupid @()#*$@ web app. There’s a button called “Report”. I click it.

    These are the options it gave me

    Its like they replaced “Tech Support” with a bunch of SJWs

    1. trshmnstr

      Yup… I have an old high school friend who works for the “care and compassion” team for a major social media company… needless to say, they’re true believers all the way down.

      1. Gilmore

        Its like, “where are the audio options for the stream”, and its asking me if i’m being triggered by ‘self-harm’

  35. Hey Fish, I just saw this, it looks like it’s right up your alley. First I’ve heard of this directorial duo, have you seen their other films? if so are they worth the hunting down.

    1. Meant to be a reply to LT_Fish. Also ignore the ‘the’

    2. I was hoping it would be a link to Powell and Pressburger.

    3. Don’t recognize any of the names, but the movie itself sounds like something I read about on screenanarchy a few weeks ago. Looks solid for a retro-grindhouse type thing. We’ll see how it pans out.

      Thanks for the trailer link though.

  36. Gilmore

    In related ‘tip of al qaeda’s sword’ news….

    …woke progressive journalist decides he wants to win the internet by making the snarkiest Trump-Diss of the day

    Hears that Saudi Arabia may be allowing women to drive (finally) after decades, tweets:

    James Martin ‏Verified account @Pundamentalism

    Pretty cool that Saudi Arabia has now done more in 2017 to help women than the US.

    The first reply is from an Arab marxist feminist journalist, who rightfully says

    Roqayah Chamseddine ‏Verified account @roqchams 4h4 hours ago
    Replying to @Pundamentalism

    What the fuck is wrong with you

    Various people proceed to explain to shithead that men can still beat their wives in the street if they’re disobedient, that women are executed for *sorcery*, and that there’s almost nowhere on earth as repressive to women as Saudi Arabia.

    He falls back on what seems a progressive-staple: “Perhaps it could have been phrased better”.

    Which i think is what Dan Pfeiffer said last night when he claimed Trump was purposely blocking aid to Puerto Rico because he’s racist. Someone said, “that’s a lie”, and after like an hour he was like, “it was poorly phrased”. Then he deleted it.

      1. Q Continuum

        Trump’s 2020 campaign thanks you!

    1. Somalian Road Corporation

      That he chose the moniker “Pundamentalism” and it’s got a blue checkmark by it already tells me all I need to know.

    2. Just Say’n

      I think white ‘woke’ people are the funniest. God bless them

  37. Q Continuum

    The fact that she tried to run him down with a Minivan is what makes this story.

    http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2017/09/swingers_party_goes_bad_when_j.html#incart_river_home_pop

    1. Vhyrus

      The bitch had a fucking restraining order against him filed BY HER and took her to a wife swap?

      Here’s your sign.

      1. Number.6

        That’s actually quite a common way for guys to end up in prison.

        1. Have fight with wife
        2. She gets restraining order
        3. Reconciliation (restraining order still in place)
        4. Time passes
        5. He badmouths a cop while drunk, out for a night with wife
        6. Arrest, prison, rape, record.

    2. Lackadaisical

      Deputies arrested both Schomakers. The husband was arrested for violating a personal protection order listing his wife as the protected party.

      Thats…. special. Also, I want the whole story, why’d she agree to it (or did she agree to it?) and then get upset?

      1. Vhyrus

        She is probably the kind of woman that gets very dangerous when drunk. Unfortunately not an uncommon thing.

        1. trshmnstr

          +1 flashback to college GF

        2. Lackadaisical

          Reminds me of a buddy’s ex. She’d always hit on me when she was drunk, but I was usually drunk by then and kind of oblivious.

          Though, I think you could also take the ‘drunk’ out of your statement and it’d still be true.

    1. Q Continuum

      Where do I enroll?