Monday Morning Links

The Juice is loose (and is telling people to fuck off about his plans). Pitino has his house up for sale and swears he’ll be vindicated in the college basketball scandal that has effectively cost him his job. Ā The favorites all won in college ball this weekend. Oh wait, that’s not true. Troy beat LSU at home. Ā That’s TROY. Ā And that’s awesome. Ā Their fans were chanting “S-E-C” as the clock ran out, which for me was reminiscent of when my section started doing it at the Sugar Bowl a few years ago as we beat Bama. Ā But that was Ohio State, not Troy. Ā Meanwhile, theĀ Men Of Troy went to Washington State and lost. Ā Which leaves Washington and Washington State as the two lone undefeated in the Pac-12. Ā Ohio State annihilated Rutgers, as expected. But another beatdown in the local area took place that was maybe not as expected in the Presidents Cup, as the USA team shellacked the Internationals and all but had it locked up before singles play even started. Ā And what’s scary is that almost all of the players on the USA team are in their 20s. Ā So this could be a regular occurrence for some time to come.

The 2017 playoffs are set! And we’ve got all your coverage right here. Ā The Yankees will host the Twins tomorrow in the AL Wild Card and the winner will head to Cleveland to take on a surging Indians team. Ā And having finished their series at Fenway, the Red Sox and Astros will head to Houston to start another series…only one that matters a lot more. Ā That starts Thursday. Ā On the senior circuit, the Rockies head to Phoenix to face the D-backs. Ā The winner will face a Dodgers team that is leaking oil. Ā And the Cubs will head to our nation’s capital to start their series against the Nationals later this week. Ā My WC picks: Twins and D-Backs win. Ā I’ll make by divisional series picks once the matches are set (and I get to reset if I’ve made a mistake).

That’s all for sports. I know there’s one thing that will be sucking the air out of the other news, so let’s get to…the links!

People in Las Vegas fleeing the concert.

Some psychopath used a machine gun to kill more than 50 people at a concert in Las Vegas.Ā He set up his nest in a 32nd room floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel for his rampage. Police confronted and killed him in the hotel.

THIS IS A HUFFPO LINK IN CASE YOU WANTED TO SEE HOW LONG IT TOOK THEM TO CLIMB ON THE STILL-WARM BODIES AND CALL FOR OUR 2A RIGHTS TO BE TAKEN AWAY.

A guy who got his clock cleaned in the presidential primary by the eventual winnerĀ is thinking about leaving the party.Ā You’ll be missed, John. See you in 2020 when you get less than 2% support before fading into the history books.

Did you ever wonder if Canada was more cosmopolitan than the United States? Ā Well wonder no more.Ā That’s what I call classy.

Daaaaaayum! Ā Saturday Night Live sure is brave and edgy. I wonder what they’ll do next week?Ā  Oh yeah. They’ll do the same exact thing.

So. Fucking. Brave.

Well good for Miami! Ā They must be flush with moneyĀ if their city government is voting on shit like this and people aren’t showing up at city hall with pitchforks and torches.

I know I brought the place up before, butĀ its DEFINITELY going to be the host of the first statewide Texas Glibs meet up now.Ā Hell, we might have to start hosting the staff and/or board meetings there too. (It might be borderline NSFW for the more prudish employers, but its on the website of a major American newspaper, so i’m feeling fine about posting it.)

Here you go.Ā Let’s be a little upbeat.

Go out there and have a good one, friends. Ā And pray or give good thoughts for everybody in Las Vegas.

Comments

1,035 responses to “Monday Morning Links”

  1. Did you ever wonder if Canada was more cosmopolitan than the United States?

    ‘Cosmopolitan’ strikes me as a pejorative term.

    1. Brett L

      Canadian Tuxedos will be all the rage in Paris and Hong Kong this fall.

    2. Bobarian LMD

      ā€˜Cosmopolitan’ strikes me as a pejorative term.

      So does ‘Canada’.

  2. Scruffy Nerfherder

    What the fuck? What in the fuckity fucking fuck? What the fucking hell is wrong with fucking people?

    My thoughts on Vegas.

    1. ^^me too^^

      This is going to be a political shit show.

      Some random – and probably wrong – guesses:

      Stephen Paddock is not a right winger since why would he shoot up a country music show? I’m guessing mental health issues. But having a helper in this confounds that theory. I guess I will have to wait for more info.

      1. I have a handful of predictions, but they’re only guesses until more information comes out. And they are most certainly colored by my biases.

      2. Drake

        My first guess is another deranged lefty like the guy who shot up the GOP softball team. Is this a new trend?

      3. WTF

        Only a few possibilities here. If it’s not political, it’s a random paranoid schizophrenic who either went off his meds or had a psychotic break. If it is political, since it was a country music concert, then it’s either a left-wing antifa type or an Islamist. If it’s one of the latter two don’t expect to hear much about it in the media, because then they will focus on “gun control” instead.

      4. ScoobaSteve

        Anyone read Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Matthew Bracken? Had a very similar event that set off massive gun control measures that sent the country into civil war.

      5. Apples and Knives

        Girl in the crowd said a short lady started yelling, “You’re all gonna die” about 45 minutes before the rampage. She and her short boyfriend were escorted out. If they’re connected, could be a revenge killing for someone cutting in line at a show, or some stupid shit like that. We’ll find out soon I guess.

        1. SugarFree

          a short lady started yelling, ā€œYou’re all gonna dieā€

          I believe that’s standard at just about all country music concerts.

          1. Number.6

            Paging Yvette Felarca. Ms. Felarca on the red phone …

      6. The girlfriend helper is indeed a confounding variable. People can go crazy in tandem, but given the ages of the people involved and the amount of planning, this seems like more than garden-variety lunacy. Granted, no mentally healthy person does something like this, but this smells like there’s a motive beyond following the advice of a talking dog.

        1. Brett L

          Latest seems to be that she contacted police and they no longer consider her involved.

    2. straffinrun

      Everyone to their corners, get ready to stand on graves. Fuck.

      1. Gray Ghost

        Everyone to their corners, get ready to stand on graves. Fuck.

        That. The bodies not only aren’t cold; they’re still twitching.

        Not that it will stop the chattering class.

        Thought the guy “was known to law enforcement” despite the initial report of no criminal record. Then again, it takes time to canvass the records of all of the places this guy could have lived and interacted with people.

        Odds that he was a diagnosed nut?

        1. If he’s “known to law enforcement” and the gun was indeed full auto, it could be that he’d gone through the rigmarole to legally own a full auto weapon. That would require local PD to sign off on his application and he’d be required to answer for the location of the gun(s) whenever they asked.

    3. Badolph Hilter

      Absolutely horrific.

      I don’t get it either. I can understand getting to a point where you want to off yourself. I’ll never understand someone who decides to execute 10 or 20 or 50 random people. Burn in hell motherfucker.

    4. Fuck. That guy was a major prick. It’s times like these I wish I believed in Hell.

    5. Gray Ghost

      From the previous thread on why no one was initially returning fire:

      The guy was about 3 to 4 hundred yards away. The Mandalay Bay hotel overlooks the concert facility, but the concert facility is kitty-corner across the Strip and Mandalay Bay Road from the hotel. And in the cell phone videos, you can hear the crack-crack-crack of the incoming fire, wait a second or so, then hear the in sync pop-pop-pop of the muzzle blast. He was a ways away from the concert. Sounded a lot like funker videos of guys taking PK fire, except for the strange variance in rate-of-fire.

      Anyway, you’re not returning fire against a guy with (WAG) a .30 caliber, bump-fire or crank fire, rifle utilizing something like a belt, drum mag or other very high capacity magazine, unless you’ve a rifle right there with you.

      Filthy son of a bitch. Why can these disgusting pieces of filth kill themselves if they’re so damned unhappy? Why do they have to harm people who just wanted to catch a concert?

      Worse mass shooting in US history. Thing is, from the initial reports (relayed from things like scanner feeds, etc…, and, as we see, are usually wrong) it was looking like a Mumbai or Westgate style assault: multiple shooters, potential VBIED, casualty reports in multiple locations. Which would have been worse.

      It’s going to be interesting to hear just what excuses his companion is going to have for not telling people about this shit pile.

      1. PieInTheSKy

        So basically a nothing you can do situation.

        1. Gray Ghost

          Run. Be somewhere else. Put something really solid between you and shithead.

          It’s like winning a bad luck lottery. I mean, what are the chances you’ll ever be in something like this, even if you made a habit of going to live music every night? Vanishingly slim. You’re much more likely to get into a wreck coming or going from the venue.

        2. Yeah. I mean, basically the thing you can do to avoid an ambush shooting is stay home, all the time. It really makes you think about how much trust you put in other people just going outside. That’s why this is so especially evil. I’m avoiding the news reports, but I’m assuming the police killed this guy, but, if not, I’d be all in favor of torturing him to death. And his accomplice.

          1. He shot himself prior to police breaching his door. He’s confirmed dead already.

          2. Of course he did, the pussy. Guys like this always kill themselves because they’re too afraid to face the consequences of their actions. What a vile piece of shit.

      2. Hyperion

        I blame Trump first and then global warming.

        1. MikeS

          And then Trump again because he caused global warming

    6. Trigger Hippie

      The deactivation of my FB account was well timed it seems.

    7. stilljustcarol

      The guy had been holed up in the hotel room since thursday with ten guns so this doesn’t sound like a random act. Sane people don’t do things like this but who knows what particular brand of insanity this guy had. I have a hard time believing that a right winger would hit a country music show but past that I just can’t imagine what was going through his mind.

  3. Someone get that bear a cocktail stat!

    1. Nah, the place he hangs out is a real dump.

      1. MikeS

        I refuse to do this pun thing

        1. I’ll trash anybody who jumps in here and continues this.

          1. The Elite Elite

            That would be unbearable.

          2. ::recognizes change in direction of punning::

            I’ll allow it.

          3. MikeS

            But he’ll bruin it all!

          4. The Elite Elite

            Allow it? Fuck off slaver! Don’t tell me what to do. So stop crapping all over this.

          5. straffinrun

            We can claw our way out of it.

          6. *prolonged narrowed gaze*

          7. Old Man With Candy

            Oso, that’s it.

          8. Gdragon

            I’m disgusted by this grizzly decision

          9. Then apparently we’re polar opposites.

          10. Slammer

            This whole thread is horribilis

          11. Bobarian LMD

            Something something Big Dipper?

  4. You’re Going to Love My Bigfoot

    News items come and go. Scandals and hot topics are temporary. But the existence of Bigfoot is truly a durable debate. And on this subject, everyone can have a strong opinion.

    What does the real Northwood’s icon look like? We truly have no hard evidence. For this exercise, there are seven qualities to consider:

    Height
    Weight
    Color
    Sound
    Smell
    Special powers (if any)
    Diet

    All of this is like a just like a jury ascertaining a truth from conflicting stories. We build our perceptions from fragments of legends. We can recreate how these beasts look and act. This is done in ā€œYou’re going to love my Bigfootā€ in four steps: Preliminary Hearing, Lone Juror, Full Jury, and Adversary System.

    1. WTF

      STEVE SMITH SPECIAL POWER IS RAPE!!

      1. AND BY RAPE, MEAN RAPE-RAPE.

  5. Sex Work: a riot of body fluids, condom balloons and Day-Glo dick aliens

    It would be impossible to look at the drawings of weaponised monster phalluses or gigantic photorealist paintings of genitalia cropped from hardcore porn, and not be poleaxed by the ferocious energy. The sheer ballsiness of the enterprise, if you like. These frank exhibits belong to Sex Work, a special section at this week’s Frieze art fair masterminded by American curator Alison Gingeras to promote nine disparate artists who came of age in the 1960s and 70s and have struggled against all kinds of censorship to find an audience. Of course, explicit material in itself isn’t anything to be surprised about at a contemporary fair.

    What gives this work an edge within Frieze’s lineup is that the creators, who hail from the first wave of feminist art, are seizing a main stage in a hyper-commercial context. Sidetracked by art history, it seems that their riotous visions are finally getting their dues.

    1. If their “visions” were getting their dues, they’d have been tossed in the heap next to the bear’s couch and been buried with the rest of the trash.

      1. cyto

        I dunno about that.

        There was a DP dildo stuck on top of a barrel cactus. A cactus. And a dildo. That makes it high art. It is a statement. A brave statement.

        Respect.

        1. That it? Not even an actual cactus dildo?

          That’s not a statement, that’s just lazy.

    2. …masterminded by American curator Alison Gingeras to promote nine disparate artists who came of age in the 1960s and 70s and have struggled against all kinds of censorship to find an audience.

      Yeah, I’m gonna need a citation. Because lack of interest or public funding =/= censorship.

  6. Juvenile Bluster

    Has anyone confirmed if the Vegas shooter had a fully automatic weapon?

    1. Not as far as I can find – but there’s been a recent burst of chaff of media desperate for content repeating things ‘famous’ people twitted in response. At this point I’d like events like this to be covered in two separate streams. One for reactions and a ‘just the facts’ data stream that isn’t cluttered with “X sent their thoughts and prayers; Y politicized the event; Z has not weighed in”

      1. straffinrun

        XYZ. XYZ. Rinse, repeat ad nauseum.

      2. At this point I’m planning to wait a day or two before even bothering to dig more into this story. When an event is this politicized I don’t trust any initial information save the primary sources, and I don’t think I cam bring myself to watch those right now.

        1. Gray Ghost

          save the primary sources, and I don’t think I cam bring myself to watch those right now.

          There are a few videos floating around from the concert level and they are difficult to watch.

          Surprisingly, I couldn’t see the shooter’s flash from the wall of windows at Mandalay Bay. Hearing all of those cracks, with a few ricochets, and having no idea where the fire is coming from.

      1. Drake

        Yep, maybe some kind of bump-fire device but that’s either full auto or Jerry Miculek.

      2. This makes my blood boil so bad. FUCK

      3. Scruffy Nerfherder

        That sounds like an automatic to me.

        1. That’s what I thought but I’m no expert – consistency is too good for someone pulling the trigger for every shot.

          1. I’ve seen some consistant rigs.

            If it is automatic, I then wonder if it’s a conversion or an illegally obtained native automatic.

        2. Could be. Could be bump fire. Does sound like single source (no major variance in volume or tone between shots). Want to know PD’s assessment of the weapon, as the shooter is dead and they presumably have it in evidence.

          1. They found a whole ‘cache’ of weapons, but no word on the composition or size of said cache.

          2. NEW: Police say that the gunman had “in excess of 10 rifles.”

            — Trey Yingst (@TreyYingst) October 2, 2017

            BREAKING: Police: Las Vegas shooter killed himself prior to their entry into his hotel room.

            — The Associated Press (@AP) October 2, 2017

        3. Vhyrus

          To me it sounds more like bump fire using a slide fire stock. You can hear slight variations in the cadence from time to time. It’s also a bit slower than a full auto. The current news report says the guy had 10 rifles. This is bad. This is the big one.

          The fact that a country music venue was targeted makes me believe it was a lefty attacking Trump supporters. Holy fuck. Buy your guns now.

      4. Gray Ghost

        The ‘old men’ (my GF’s nickname for them) at arfcom seem to think the thing was hand-cranked, like an old Gatling Gun. The rate of fire does sound oddly variable, and I guess they do make hand cranks for faux automatic weapons fire.

        Awfully high rate of fire. Doubt it’s the 1200 RPM of an MG-3 or -42, but sounds faster than the 500 RPM of an M2.

        1. It sounded slower than the natively automatic AR-variants I’ve heard. Very mid range, and if a gatling, definatley not electrically cranked.

          1. Drake

            Yes – slower than an AR or AK which makes me think bump-fire. And it just doesn’t sound like a belt-fed machinegun to me.

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          A Gatling gun seems like way too much kit to sneak in to a hotel without anybody noticing.

      5. westernsloper

        Other video of the shots from below

        I think it is too inconsistent to be a full auto weapon. Bump fire, or some device maybe. As some have speculated.

        Fucking infuriating this shit is.

        1. cyto

          That is odd. It is reminiscent of the sound of someone cranking a gatling gun.

          I would also guess bump fire…. there isn’t an auto that slows down like that, is there?

          1. westernsloper

            Not that I am aware of. I have shot fully auto just a handful of times in my life though. I am far from an expert, but it just doesn’t sound right. Crank fire attachment makes sense to me.

    2. straffinrun

      ABC News claims it was a fully automatic.

      1. But it’s ABC, so…

        1. straffinrun

          I’m thinking Infowars might actually be better…

      2. The Zenome Project

        So that means people can’t use this for political talking points, since automatics are fully illegal to civilians already. Good, focus on the victims and the psychopath instead.

        1. WTF

          So that means people can’t use this for political talking points
          Oh, they will twist and torture it however necessary to force it into their preferred narrative.

        2. The Elite Elite

          Did it have the black thing that goes up?

        3. Microaggressor

          So that means people can’t use this for political talking points

          Hah! Experience tells me facts don’t matter when massive political leverage is on the line.

        4. I’ll mail you a cashier’s check for $10,000 if that’s what people do.

        5. Number.6

          *sigh*
          I wasn’t going to pitch in on this yet, but that one’s a doozy.

          Even I, as a green card holder, non-citizen can purchase and fire a full automatic weapon, even in the DPRCT.

          I do have to undergo a very extensive background check, pay a couple hundred for the tax stamp, wait about a year and then pony upwards of 10K in order to purchase an automatic weapon. And every LEO office in America will know I’m in possession of it.

          In my town, the local cops also have – as I understand it – the ability to contact me whenever they want and have me declare that it’s still in my possession, and that it’s in a safe and secure location.

          However, as we know, crazy people and criminals often don’t follow the law.

          As a P.S., the weapon is most likely to be a fully automatic in 30 cal, box mag fed. I haven’t heard much of the footage, but it sounds like he was firing 20-30 rounds, with a break in fire, sufficient to load another mag. That puts it in AK/M14 territory.

          1. It’s doable, but it’s highly regulated. You also can’t buy a full auto weapon made after 1986, I believe, so the weapons being sold are basically old pre-owned guns going between a pretty small group of owners. Dealers can own newer weapons, but since they can’t be sold to private citizens that again is a very select group of people. And as you say, they’re damned expensive.

          2. Count Potato

            Also, as far as I know, in CT it has to be full auto, also. Select fire is illegal.

          3. Number.6

            Correct. Illogical, but correct.

            Indeed, you can’t even purchase an AR-15 pattern gun of in 5.56 or larger, unless it’s a pre-ban. America’s Rifle. Banned.

            There are, however, lots of M1As being bought.

        6. commodious spittoon

          This is a mainstream outfit: if it fires bullets, it’s full-auto.

          1. “My full-auto musket always empties its entire magazine with one trigger pull!”

    3. PieInTheSKy

      Also it would be interesting if the weapon was legal, although it is all rather irrelevant now.

      1. If it was legal and legally obtained, then that’s one extra extra extra unhinged fuck. Guns like that are worth a fortune.

    4. Hyperion

      Apparently the cops say it was just a semi-auto, not a machine gun.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    Time to turn the teevee off.

  8. Drake

    The Mayor of San Juan is starting to look like the next Ray Nagin.

    1. At this rate, she’ll get to host SNL next week. Aaaaaand then she’ll have her shitty city govt looked into and then the truth of what is really causing this delay in supplies will get reported and she will get destroyed get covered up and Trump will be blamed.

      1. Gray Ghost

        You used to live and work there Sloop. Is any of this surprising to you? The island has what, 5% power restored after how many days since the hurricane?

        What would you do with Puerto Rico, if you were king, Sloopy?

        1. I know you asked Sloopy, but I’d turn it into a penal colony for dissidents.

          I never said I’d be a benevolent king.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Puerto Australia?

            Needs some more poisonous creatures.

        2. Drake

          Divide it into counties and appoint a Count to rule each and keep the peasants in line.

        3. It’s been 19 years since I lived there. Lots of people had generators after Hugo. And lots of people were also given free homes after Hugo and expect the govt to take care of them. But that was a generation ago almost.
          My guess is that people are wholly unprepared for this.
          What would I do? I’d open the place up for competitive power generation and see the real rate (not the subsidized one) drop like a stone. And I’d call for a vote: statehood or independence. No more of this territory bullshit.
          Then I’d open the island up as a tax haven tge likes of which could compete with the Caymans and Bahamas only with a larger population base and the ability to become even larger. Then I’d declare war on the Dominican Republic and push those filthy fuckers into Haiti or the Caribbean Sea.

          1. Gray Ghost

            Then I’d declare war on the Dominican Republic and push those filthy fuckers

            Should I even ask?

            Anyway, I’d thought you’d been there more recently. It’s surprising that they’re so unprepared, living near the Caribbean which, while not Hurricane Alley per se, still gets them from time to time. Though Maria was a pretty big storm when it hit.

            More competition is good. and I like your thoughts on making them a state or cutting them loose. Do it for the Marianas, Samoa, and the Virgin islands while we’re at it. Let’s make PR a gambling and maybe IP haven too.

          2. When I lived there, there were a lot of Dominican illegals living there and bleeding the place of welfare. Free Hugo homes, free WIC, free insurance, free everything and then getting a cash gig on top of it. They were notorious for gaming the system where I lived and worked (Luquillo and Fajardo area). And they were filthy as fuck. Naked kids in the yard shitting in the grass, not keeping their water turned on so they were shitting in buckets and using rainwater to flush them (into the gutter). Just all-around nasty motherfuckers I came in contact with in the area around where I worked or went for entertainment.

            But maybe those were just the ones that gravitated to the NE of the island. Although my friends in other towns and in San Juan allcsaid it was the same there.

          3. mexican sharpshooter

            Then I’d declare war on the Dominican Republic and push those filthy fuckers into Haiti or the Caribbean Sea.

            I think you’ve been watching too much Black Sails

    2. Slammer

      There’s obviously a custom t-shirt service open somewhere in PR

  9. The Late P Brooks

    Maybe that guy had all his money on the Colts.

  10. Drake

    In news you won’t hear about today. A haji went off in Edmonton and stabbed a cop.

  11. Scruffy Nerfherder

    “If the party can’t be fixed … I’m not going to be able to support the party. Period. That’s the end of it … But have I given up? No,”

    Put up or shut up John. Don’t issue idle threats.

    1. westernsloper

      Whats the over under he puts an L after his name?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Why not? He’d just be continuing the legacy of the Libertarian Party.

      2. straffinrun

        Like it even matters anymore.

      3. John Kasich – Loser

        Hasn’t Trump already done that for him?

        1. spqr2008

          What’s sad is that the man has had decent ideas that the GOP would find are very popular if implemented on a federal level. For instance, the best thing he did was make sure that Ohio’s Board of Regents (for education) was required to make Community College credits 100% transferable to any publicly funded institution of higher learning in Ohio (and the private schools mostly got on board as well). If the GOP wants to crater the professor and administrative class of universities without pulling more public funding, they should implement this idea nationwide. It benefits the poor and children from homes that aren’t the best in education that decide they want education later on (by saving money in early years of college), and saves on student loans for a standard student as well. If we are going to have the evil of federally funded higher ed, let’s at least make it a more affordable and competitive evil.

    2. wdalasio

      So, Kasich is auditioning to be Gary Johnson’s 2020 running mate?

      1. Waterfall Insurance

        LP 2020 ” Weld: America together.” Its Weld’s turn to vouch for a former GOP governor now that he has proven his loyalty to the party.

    3. Chipwooder

      Kasich is the absolute worst type of politician, a preening moralizer.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      Trump always wins, John. You just proved his point.

      Winners are winners.

  12. Old Man With Candy

    We have some dear friends there at the moment and are waiting on word from them. Until then, I am damn nervous.

    1. straffinrun

      What do you say? Hope for the best, man.

    2. MikeS

      Thoughts and prayers for your friends. And everyone else there.

    3. Gray Ghost

      Jesus, OMWC. I’m sorry. I hope they make it through safe.

      They responding to texts at all?

      1. Old Man With Candy

        No. Nor phone calls. But she’s a total sex pig, so they could be recovering from a long night of vacation banging (the good kind).

    4. Gray Ghost

      Per this tweet from Representative Ruben J. Kihuen,

      “I’m told 92 of 190 patients don’t have ID’s. To locate missing loved ones call: 1-866-535-5654.”

      Worth a try?

    5. Chipwooder

      Hoping for the best. Sorry you’re having to endure this.

    6. I’m with you, man. But I’m sure all is ok.

    7. What sloopy said – I’m sure they’re ok.

    8. Count Potato

      I hope they are OK.

    9. Slammer

      Hope they’re all right. Am praying today.

    10. Ownbestenemy

      Hope for the best OMWC. I live and work in Vegas. This Glib lurker is safe

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Just heard from them (and since they’re OK, I can say that it’s Riven & co.).

        Thanks for the good wishes, all.

        1. westernsloper

          Palease. Given what you said above we all knew who you were talking about.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            This is why we all love her.

        2. DEG

          This is good news.

        3. MikeS

          Oh wow. That hits close to home…sort of. Never met her, but you get to feel like you kinda know people on here. Does that makes sense?

          Anyway, very glad Riven and Mr. Riven are OK.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            Yes, it does. We’ve formed a real community here, and you get a really good sense of the people behind the keyboards.

          2. nw

            Not to mention the lizards and rapesquatches. Well, rapesquatch, I hope there’s only one.

    11. DEG

      Sorry, I hope they’re OK.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      How long till Sweden implodes?

      1. They already have, they’re just in denial.

        1. Drake

          One neighborhood at a time. Makes it easy to ignore if you avoid those neighborhoods.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Decline of the center-leftists

    During the postwar decades, social democracy promoted solidarity and a sense of shared national purpose so as to avoid the fractures that undermined European democracy during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. In contrast to Communists, who exclusively focused on class conflict, the center-left built bridges between workers and others. And in contrast to the individualism of classical liberals and many conservatives, the center-left’s emphasis was on citizens’ obligations to one another and the government’s duty to promote the good of society.

    You know who else wanted to promote solidarity and a sense of shared national purpose?

    tl;dr- absent the high minded squishy socialist parties, Europe is doomed.

    1. Microaggressor

      Even if you don’t support the left, this should be cause for concern.

      Only if those people are going full commie

      Social democratic parties were crucial to rebuilding democracy in Western Europe after 1945. They remain essential to democracy on the Continent today.

      [Citation needed]

    2. leonadasiv

      “And in contrast to the individualism of classical liberals and many conservatives, the center-left’s emphasis was on citizens’ obligations to one another and the government’s duty to promote the good of society”

      ‘obligations’

      Well that’s one way to say leftists focused denying people basic freedoms.

    3. PieInTheSKy

      Do I get to be the one who defines good of society? If so I may be on board.

      1. Don’t be silly. You get trod upon.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        More illiterate fundamentalist immigrants is what they mean by that.

      3. wdalasio

        Do I get to be the one who defines good of society?

        That depends. Do you have any particular talent, ability or worth as a human being? If so, then I’m afraid that the answer is you don’t.

      4. That depends. Do you identify as a straight white male?

    4. You know who else wanted to promote solidarity and a sense of shared national purpose?

      Lech Walesa?

    5. Charlie Suet

      I strongly suspect that many idiots in the UK voted for Corbyn in the belief that he is a squishy socialist, or at any rate on the basis that he is Labour and therefore ‘nice’. While ignorance of basic economics is pervasive, I don’t agree that the majority of people even here have suddenly become commies.

    6. Rufus the Monocled

      “And in contrast to the individualism of classical liberals and many conservatives, the center-left’s emphasis was on citizens’ obligations to one another and the government’s duty to promote the good of society.”

      This is the same exact bull shit they taught us in school and I had to self de-program from.

      When you read about the motives and attitudes of these people who ‘wanted to promote the good of society’ they were usually just, well, nanny-assholes. They wanted power to keep the undesirables under control. There was *some* aim to do good but their means and reasons were generally rooted in faulty premises.

  14. straffinrun

    On days like this, I try to remember this:

    ā€œIf only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?ā€
    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      That book is a treasure box of excellent quotes. When you read it, you can easily replace the bad guys with progressives. It’s the same EXACT mind set and rhetoric.

      Where you can’t really build a case that Trump is a Nazi and not be laughed off, you can most certainly draw a parallel between ‘the organs’ and modern progressivism if treated properly I reckon.

      1. Lachowsky

        Reading that book is why I’m a libertarian. Seriously. After reading that I came to the obvious conclusion that the state is evil. I don’t know how one could read that book and not come to the same conclusion.

  15. LJW

    4chan and Reddit sleuths are hard at work this morning.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I’m sure they’ll be just as successful as they were after the Boston Marathon bombing.

      1. Count Potato

        Were they?

        1. Gray Ghost

          Ask Sam Hyde. Or any of the other people they mis-identified.

          You know, if we had a media we could trust to do their job, we wouldn’t be relying on a bunch of maladjusted autists to try and ferret out the truth.

          1. A Fuggin White Male

            You do know the Sam Hyde thing has always been a meme, right?

          2. Gray Ghost

            To the people in on the joke.

            I think I just know too many old people who delight in forwarding his name, or variants of it, around each time one of these incidents happen.

            Do we know if our autistic wired mascots have managed to dig up anything noteworthy on this guy?

          3. A Fuggin White Male

            I’ve been lurking /pol/ all day, and so far, nothing really. I think people are being more careful after they screwed up in identifying the Charlottesville guy.

            They did successfully troll a Russian news station into reporting that Sam Hyde was the shooter. It was pretty funny.

      2. I’m hoping they’ll be as successful as they were against Eric Clanton. Doubt it, though: I think a big reason they were so successful there was the media completely ignoring it, essentially giving the weaponized autists zero background noise or misleading data. In Boston and this case there are going to be a lot of false reports and finger pointing that’ll screw everything up.

  16. Ugh – found out that my friend Bill, who died over the weekend, killed himself. I thought it was an accident or some unknown medical issue. He was the last person in the world that I would call suicidal. I guess it goes to show you that what you often see in people is just a facade.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Sorry to hear that.

    2. Shit, sorry man.

    3. wdalasio

      Sorry to hear that, LH.

    4. Slammer

      Condolences, LH

    5. Count Potato

      Sorry.

    6. Stillhunter

      Oh man, that’s rough. Very sorry to hear that.

    7. DEG

      Sorry.

      I guess it goes to show you that what you often see in people is just a facade.

      I had a friend who killed himself. We moved to different parts of the country after undergrad, and didn’t see each other often. The last time I saw him, he was strangely calm. A few months later, dead. His friends that lived near him didn’t see it coming or know there was anything wrong. I think, in hindsight, that that last time I saw him, he had already checked out.

    8. Michael

      Oh, man. I am very sorry to hear this.

    9. Number.6

      Aw, man, that’s awful. Sorry to hear it.

    10. MikeS

      Oh man, that sucks LH. Condolences.

    11. thanks, everyone.

      In my old circle of friends it certainly left a lot of questions. Bill was a real outgoing guy who never had a problem hooking up with women, or making fast friends. There were any number of people who he could have called. Everyone is pretty gobsmacked by the whole thing.

      Bill was the guy I was jealous of – I mean his wild life of going all over the world and doing what he wanted to do. He once invited me on a three week long jaunt to Cambodia but I declined since it would have burned up all my vacation time for a year.

      1. straffinrun

        We tend to think someone who is outgoing would have no problem talking to people, but it seems to be the exact opposite some times. See Robin Williams. Sorry for your loss.

        1. Yeah I noticed that Bill never really wanted to discuss anything “deep” – just surface topics. I tend toward philosophy – meaning of life & death – much to the annoyance of many.

          1. AlexinCT

            Bill sounds like me. I am someone that can be totally outgoing and walk into a room full of strangers and strike conversations up with anyone. But ask me to talk about myself, to go deep, and I clam up. Just am not a sharer. I can see how some people end up feeling lonely or dread that disconnected. Lucky for me, so far, I have been fine with people telling me I am emotionally unavailable. Sorry to hear about your friend man.

          2. butt-head

            Do you write?

      2. Tundra

        Sorry, man. No good answers.

        One of my childhood pals shot himself 15 years ago. Same deal – good looking, successful, etc. The rest of us were shocked. No hints, no nothing.

        Heartbreaking that someone can be carrying around that much pain.

      3. Gray Ghost

        I am sorry for your loss. He sounds like a very interesting person to have known.

        Perhaps some underlying medical condition, beyond major depression, that would have deprived Bill of the lifestyle he enjoyed?

        But usually, there is no reason that we will ever understand.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    So, Kasich is auditioning to be Gary Johnson’s 2020 running mate?

    Kasich and Peter King for the Libertarian ticket. It could work.

    1. straffinrun

      No way, man. I’m not giving up on Styxhexenhammer/Razorfist 2020.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Flip that ticket and they have my vote.

        1. butt-head

          But Razor is like 12 years old.

          1. butt-head

            Razorfist 2040

          2. Number.6

            Is that like Warhammer 40000?

  18. leonadasiv

    Thoughts and prayers for Vegas. Knowing what the media will be taking about for the next week, I might be off the grid for a while.

    1. The Zenome Project

      They won’t, because they can’t. Automatic weapons are not legal to civilians. No amount of gun control could’ve stopped this from happening.

      1. leonadasiv

        “No amount of gun control could’ve stopped this from happening.”

        That has literally never stopped them before.

        1. WTF

          Exactly. No amount of gun control could have stopped any mass shooting, but that has never deterred them in the past.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            If you could magically vanish all guns, you’d be left with bombs, cars, airplanes, and heavy construction equipment. It’s the brain, not the tool.

          2. Gray Ghost

            you’d be left with bombs, cars, airplanes, and heavy construction equipment.

            Or gasoline.

            Doubt it’s a legally owned full-auto, if it’s even full auto at all. If so, that’d be IIRC, the second or third crime ever committed with one. Which is an argument for gun control, I suppose.

          3. Brett L

            IIRC, someone ran a story about hand-forged AKs in Afghanistan. Its an open secret that 90%+ of small machine shops in the US could turn out rifles. Guns aren’t hard to make, they’ve just been (relatively) easy to acquire compared to the hassle of making and caching your own.

          4. KibbledKristen

            Darra, Pakistan. Michael Palin did a show on the Himalayas and shot scenes there.

          5. Count Potato

            I looked into it a few years ago. If I recall, since the NFA there has only been one crime involving a legal full auto. And it was a gun law violation, not a violent crime.

          6. The Last American Hero

            There’s a guy on Youtube that made a hand forged AK from shovels purchased at a local home store in a forge made from a 55 gallon drum.

          7. Number.6

            Building fully functioning firearms is not difficult – and given the easy availability of all the key components, building one that is relatively reliable – or at least, that will hold up for a few thousand rounds – could be done with little more than hand-tools and some time. It’s also legal at the moment. But also, irrelevant.

            The gun or guns used last night did exactly what a gun is meant to do. The problem here was the guy with the gun. Yes, the high rate of fire enabled the guy to do far more harm, but that’s why people with a certain ideology try and get larger trucks to drive into crowds of innocent civilians.

            Given that – in a practical sense – you can no more eliminate automatic weapons than you can eliminate 18-wheelers – our problems arise from the actions of a person. Not an object.

          8. Grumbletarian

            Common sense brain control!

            /prog rallying cry

          9. They’re already calling for that. See “check your privilege,” rheee-ing wrongthink, hate speech is not free speech, etc.

      2. thom

        ‘Which is why it’s extra important now that we get guns out of the hands of private citizens. Things like this are next to impossible to stop in a world with so many guns floating around.’

        So, yeah, they can and they will.

      3. Automatic weapons are not legal to civilians.

        That’s not technically true, but the list of people who are authorized to own full-auto weapons is short as hell. It’s easier to get a TS/SCI clearance than to get permission to buy a full-auto gun.

        1. EvilSheldon

          Nah. It’s really not.

          Getting a legal machine gun is expensive and requires some paperwork and a long wait, but the background check is basically, “Are you a criminal?”

  19. PieInTheSKy

    The shortest published paper (in the Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 1974) has a word count of 0:

    https://twitter.com/juliagalef/status/914655178107867137

    1. Only if you count the body. The footnotes push it above that limit.

  20. Brett L

    In other sports news, the Titans are so bad, they made Houston look like a real team with playoff chances.

    1. Gray Ghost

      Watson is actually a pretty damned good football player. Or, at least until the League gets enough tape on him.

      Now, if the defense could get back to where they were in, say, 2011. And if they could find an O-line this next off-season. Jeez, trade Duane Brown or give him some guaranteed money already.

  21. Professor who critiqued radical feminism accused of promoting ā€˜violence,’ targeted for termination

    There’s a chorus of demands to fire Boise State University Professor Scott Yenor in the wake of an article he wrote on the role of radical feminism in emerging pro-transgender trends that undermine parental rights.

    A petition calling for the political science professor’s termination accused him of promoting ā€œan ideology of violence.ā€ Some students and others in the campus community also called for Yenor to be fired, including in school newspaper op-eds and in posters hung around campus.

    And at a campus debate held Sept. 25, some at the forum suggested Yenor’s work amounted to ā€œhate speechā€ and should be banned, according to an audio recording of the event sent to The Fix.

    You know who else was targeted for termination…

    1. Brett L

      Sarah Conner?

      1. SugarFree

        “Is this the poorly-sourced literature review of Sarah Connor?”

        1. leonadasiv

          “Come with me if you want to keep your job!”

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Those students that would see him fired have nothing else to do than complain and agitate. They are being underwritten by either wealthy parents or federal student loans or both. The simple solution is to get rid of federal guarantees for student loans and no longer exempt those loans from bankruptcy. Interest rates and loan scrutiny would immediately jump and the majority of the students who are pursuing non-productive degrees would be forced to reconsider their choices.

      1. I hate the idea of student loan forgiveness and federal guarantees.

        Especially now that I’m three payments away from having paid mine off the right way.

        While I also hate the idea of people being able to get out from under them via bankruptsy, it is a necessary evil to increase scrutiny of the actual financial prospects by the lending institutions…

        But what I think about when I read your statement is “I’ll have paid off my Student Loans on Pearl Harbor Day”

      2. wdalasio

        I would support that. But, at the same time, I think it’s absolutely necessary to reverse the government’s absurd support for credentialing in the labor market. Allow employers to administer aptitude tests, as just one example. We’re pushing kids into an insane dilemma of needing a degree (any degree) to get employment then wondering why they’re degree-obsessed.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Absolutely agree. The college system is bloated and overdue for a bust.

    3. Count Potato

      “ā€œTransgender rights activists are seeking to abridge parental rights by elevating the independent choices of young children,ā€ Yenor wrote. ā€œRespecting the sexual and gender ā€˜choices’ of ever-younger children erodes parental rights and compromises the integrity of the family as an independent unit.ā€

      ā€œThere exists no better way of extending the sexual revolution that second-wave feminists imagined than by shaking confidence in the very idea of man and woman,ā€ according to the report. ā€œTransgender theories are part of the feminist goal of a sexual revolution that eliminates the proprietary family and celebrates non-monogamous sexual experiences.ā€

      And if he took the opposite view, he would have been attacked by the TERF’s.

      http://www.heritage.org/gender/report/sex-gender-and-the-origin-the-culture-wars-intellectual-history

      1. Rasilio

        Honestly he does sound like a bit of a crackpot.

        Second wave Feminists in general are fairly outraged by people with penises calling themselves women and 3rd wave feminists want to scale back on the sexual revolution as they see most non lesbian sex as inherently problematic symbols of rape and male domination of women.

        The linkage between transgender theories and 3rd wave feminism is tenuous at best, both are certainly artifacts of cultural marxism and the general progressive desire to tear down western cultural institutions. Non monogamy however is not really tied to any of these and is frankly something that has been growing organically since before the sexual revolution independently of any progressive influences.

        That said he is far less of a crackpot than anyone who argues a 6 year old should be able to decide their gender.

  22. Drake

    Spanish police crack down on referendum vote

    Amazing the shit the cops in Europe are willing to overlook – obviously how their politician bosses want them to behave. But threaten to take away some of their tax-serfs and they get violent fast.

    1. Europe is like a time portal into America’s future. Do we ever pay attention to the warnings?? No.

      1. Drake

        Well, it is pretty funny when a cultural enricher meets up with the local rednecks when he thinks he’s going to bully some city sissy. Eastern Europeans or Russians instead of Germans in this case.

        1. Goddamn! The Poles do not play.

        2. Slammer

          I ran that page through google translate and I loved this sentence:

          Internauts commenting on the film congratulate the Poles for their quick and effective action.

  23. straffinrun

    Trump’s address to the shooting is going to be what? Subdued? Angry? Cringe worthy? Unifying (give that about a 0.0001% chance)?

    1. Criticized – 100% chance.

    2. The Zenome Project

      We already know what it’s going to be: “Divisive!”

      1. leonadasiv

        But what if he cries in the rose garden?

        1. He’ll be accused of being weak when strenght was required. If he does not, he’ll be accused of being heartless.

      2. The Elite Elite

        With subtle dogwhistles to his racist supporters.

        1. straffinrun

          He’s only cares when white people are killed.

      3. Rasilio

        Not necessarily ,

        He will be hailed as a presidential hero if he calls for a crackdown on firearms

    3. Brett L

      “I love country music. Country music is the best music. Full of great people. Great. There’s nothing more American than country music. Terrible what happened. Horrible man. Glad he’s dead.”

      1. The Elite Elite

        Given how horrible country ā€œmusicā€ is, that would be a divisive statement.

        1. Brett L

          Until this morning, I thought I hated pop country as much as the next guy.

          1. Gray Ghost

            Until this morning, I thought I hated pop country as much as the next guy.

            Oh, God. Jeselnik-worthy tweet. Bravo.

        2. Just play it backwards, you’ll hear the protagonist get a dog, a truck and a girlfriend.

      2. leonadasiv

        “I love country music. Country music is the best music.”

        More rhetoric to appeal to his base.

  24. Drake

    I’m happy to hear that Larry David is sticking to his anti-PC guns. I missed it last night and will have to watch on demand.

    1. Raston Bot

      okay that sounds really funny. good. finally something worth watching.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Can’t understand what might motivate somebody to start randomly shooting people? Read this

    There was no better time or place to be a Communist than in San Francisco in the spring of 1945.

    The world was poised to tip in a new direction and the start was the creation of the United Nations in San Francisco. As the delegates began taking their seats, the Red Army was battling to take Berlin. History seemed to be bending toward Moscow. Yet even conservatives held out hope that the United Nations could forge a lasting global peace. Expectations were so high that one columnist called the conference ā€œthe most important human gathering since the Last Supper.ā€

    —————

    The Russians were America’s feted allies, so Vyacheslav Molotov, Stalin’s stolid deputy — an apparatchik so bland that Lenin once called him a ā€œfiling clerkā€ — was the man of the hour, lionized like a movie star and hounded for autographs. Even Hedda Hopper, the gossip columnist who went on to browbeat blacklisted Hollywood stars, fell under his spell, pronouncing Molotov ā€œcharmingā€ and likening him in her column to Teddy Roosevelt (probably because they both wore pince-nez).

    The conference was ā€œGrand Hotelā€ on the bay. Everyone who mattered, then or later, darted through the revolving doors: besides Molotov, Winston Churchill’s delegate, the future British prime minister Anthony Eden, and President Harry Truman’s secretary of state Edward R. Stettinius, rubbed shoulders with show business royalty like Rita Hayworth, Lana Turner, Jack Benny, Paul Robeson and Orson Welles.

    Wealthy dupes and social climbers make the world go round.

    1. wdalasio

      I can justify the politicians at the conference. It’s their job to deal with foreign leaders no matter how repulsive they are. But, the show business types having an orgasm over this guy really have no excuse. They were acting like groupies for a representative of a regime engaged in mass murder and political repression on scale that surpassed even the Nazis. It’s disgusting.

  26. LJW

    That’s has to be full auto.

    https://youtu.be/zodiGpCdBzQ

    1. LJW

      That*

    2. Vhyrus

      Negative ghost rider. My money is slide fire stock or handcrank.

  27. PieInTheSKy

    Inside the World of the ‘Bitcoin Carnivores’

    Why a small community of Bitcoin users is eating meat exclusively.

    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ne74nw/inside-the-world-of-the-bitcoin-carnivores?utm_source=mbtwitter

  28. The Late P Brooks

    But what I think about when I read your statement is ā€œI’ll have paid off my Student Loans on Pearl Harbor Dayā€

    Nice.

  29. MikeS

    For Sugar Free (or anyone else that wants to chime it); Reposted from last night. OMWC said this was right up your alley. I’d appreciate any advice you have:

    Does anyone have experience with paper conservation in general and blueprint conservation in particular? When we bought our house a couple years ago, we found the original, sixty-six year old blueprints in the basement. It’s an Aladdin kit house, so they have some minor historical value in addition to the sentimental value.

    1. SugarFree

      At that age, the blueprints are probably cyanotypes. Keep them away light and away from bases, like buffered paper, and they should be fine. The paper is probably acidic, but deacidification of paper requires you to neutralize it in a calcium carbonate bath with deionized water and would damage the blue part of the blueprint extensively.

      Our standard for blueprint storage is to interleave with acid-free (but not buffered) tissue paper and store in a dark, cool place with consistent temperature and humidity, a first-floor closet not on an exterior wall is your best bet in a residence. There is no problem storing them rolled.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanotype

      1. MikeS

        Awesome. Just what I was looking for. I owe you, SF!

        1. MikeS

          Wait…I don’t want to be in debt to Sugar Free!

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Too late.

            I’ll pray for your soul.

          2. The Elite Elite

            Don’t worry. He’ll just have you as part of the cast of some of his video adaptations of his stories.

          3. SugarFree

            It’s cool, man. The IRS implications of getting your firstborn just aren’t worth it anymore.

  30. Rufus the Monocled

    Damn. RIP to those who lost their lives. Absolutely sickening.

  31. The Late P Brooks

    But what if he cries in the rose garden?

    While vilifying hard-hearted monsters hiding behind foolish “loopholes” in the law, from a lofty vantage point atop a mound of still-warm bodies?

    What sort of person would do such a thing?

  32. PieInTheSKy

    This twitter account is usually stupid but for some reason this amused me

    https://twitter.com/HoldThisBeer/status/910211834413596673

  33. Rufus the Monocled

    The Twins have, what, a 275 win % against the Yanks?

    Wonder what your Ravens fans think of the fans booing the team as they prayed.

    Bennett is one special dude. I watched the video of Lombardo explaining the sequence of events of what happened. Seems to me it was text book police stuff and hardly racially motivated on any grounds. Plus they were pretty damn polite at the end. It was one of those things.

    And Americans are expected to protest that? GTFOH.

    1. MikeS

      The Twins have, what, a 275 win % against the Yanks?

      Which is why they are due for a win. Go Twins! C’mon Rufus, say it with me! Go Twins!

      1. WTF

        Yeah, given the Twins record of futility against the Yankees, I don’t see why you would pick them. Although anything can happen in just one game.

        1. thom

          The Twins turn into the Washington Generals against the Yankees in the playoffs. Honestly, basically a waste of jet fuel to even go to NYC and play.

          1. MikeS

            Yep. All those years of division championships only to be drummed out by the Yankees (seemingly) every year. So frustrating.

          2. Pope Jimbo

            The worst year was the one where Mauer hit a liner down the 3rd base line that was fair by at least a foot and would have scored runs and put us in the driver’s seat. Then the ump called it foul.

            I think that is when the “jinx” started.

          3. MikeS

            Yeah, I hope Phil Cuzzi is enjoying the fat check that Steinbrenner cut him. Asshole.

            Also, wasn’t that play the “final straw” to getting instant replay instituted?

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Don’t do it Rufus! MikeS is a sadist who tricks you into thinking on the bright side of life. He coaxes you out of the emotional safe space bunker you have built to protect yourself only to get stomped on by the Yankees.

        Any other team and it wouldn’t be so bad.

    2. Gray Ghost

      The Twins have, what, a 275 win % against the Yanks?

      Vegas has the Twins as a +210 dog to the Yankees. Who are a -240 bet.

      So, Vegas seems to think the Yankees are about a 70/30 favorite to win. Which seems a touch high, but what do I know?

      I’m not a fan of the one day WC, FWIW. Make it at least best of three.

      1. MikeS

        I’m not a fan of the one day WC, FWIW. Make it at least best of three.

        I agree. One day “playoffs” are bullshit. Not a whole lot better than a coin flip.

        1. Gray Ghost

          The flip side of the argument is, “Hey, stop bitching and win your division. Be glad you even get to play in a WC game.” And, being a fan of the Giants the year they won 103 games or so, and still lost the division to the Braves who won 104, I see why they put the WC in.

          But one game is really too random for baseball or basketball.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            I have been down on MLB ever since they expanded to 3 divisions and added a wild card.

            I liked the old playoffs where only 4 teams made it and fuck off you other losers. You are the 93 Giants and win 103 games? Fuck you, the Braves won 104 and you are out!

      2. WTF

        Or make it like Japan’s (I think, could be someone else): a two-game series, but the first WC only has to win one while the second WC has to win both to advance.

      3. Grumbletarian

        Right, MLB playoffs aren’t long enough. I believe that in the ’07 World Series between Boston and Colorado that there were good chances of Coors Field being snow-covered.

        1. Brett L

          I mean, its not hockey or basketball. It only runs a month.

          1. Grumbletarian

            Granted. What’s really long is the regular season. Shorten it to a nice round 150 games and then you can have a slightly longer playoffs without having to paint baselines in color over snow.

        2. B.P.

          I was at that 2007 opener in Coors Field and it was pretty damn cold. To be fair, there are chances for Coors Field to be snow-covered at the end of May.

  34. KibbledKristen

    I’m am strongly leaning toward this being some flavor of Bernie Bro. Can’t see a Dylan Roof shooting up a bunch of white folks at a country music concert.

    1. The Zenome Project

      Aren’t radical leftists terrified of guns? I’m leaning towards a straight-up nutcase a la James Holmes.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Ask the guy who shot Steve Scalise

      2. There is apparently an armed subset. Not as prevalent among their base, but not unknown.

        1. The Zenome Project

          I know that Bernie is more open than the average leftist to gun owners and pro-lifers. Mainly since his brand is “Shut up and gimme dat!”

      3. thom

        How politicized has everything become that we all first assume that this falls into the red/blue political discourse vs the most obvious assumption that this was an insane person doing something insane?

        1. ^This. It’s sad, but it’s true. The saddest thing about it is it’s believable.

        2. The Zenome Project

          It’s because political insanity is a common trigger for folks who were already batshit insane to start with.

        3. KibbledKristen

          Anyone who does something like this is insane. But their reasons for doing it vary. And it’s usually political.

          1. thom

            Is it? I feel like they’re usually kind of surprisingly unpolitical. That one in Orlando was more about religious confusion, and that kid at the Church was just kind of pure insanity.

          2. KibbledKristen

            To me, hating gays enough to kill a bunch of them, and hating blacks enough to kill a bunch of them, are political statements.

            A non-political mass shooting would be something like “my ex-wife is a bitch, this’ll show her”

            It’s obviously total speculation on my part, but my spidey sense is telling me they’ll be finding some lefty connections with this guy.

          3. If so, expect this to be blamed on Trump creating an environment of hate and division.

          4. KibbledKristen

            If so, expect this to be blamed on Trump creating an environment of hate and division.

            Same as they did for the baseball field shooting

          5. Count Potato

            Mass shootings in the U.S. are rarely motivated by politics.

        4. Number.6

          Even without all the recent Trump Derangement, it’s hard to disengage the immediate idea that someone who shoots up a C&W gig is probably someone with little or no interest in the attendees wellbeing.

          Sadly, for the last 20 years or so, this will lead the average person to make assumptions about the ideology of someone who perpetrates this kind of deed. Stereotypes exist because they’re at least partially true.

          But I’m reserving judgment until I see some data that looks even slightly objective – or, failing that, some that supports the narrative I want to own.

        5. EvilSheldon

          Because spree killers are rarely insane. They always have some flavor of personality disorder, but they usually are completely in control of their faculties. They know exactly what they are doing, and have a reason for doing it.

      4. Drake

        Leftists are terrified of guns in the hands of the peasants. Of course their enforcers need guns, ask Chairman Mao.

  35. Hyperion

    “Some psychopath used a machine gun to kill more than 50 people at a concert in Las Vegas.”

    I think it was a semi-auto rifle. Thus the left are already calling for banning machine guns again.

    Anyone hear anything about a motive? The guy hates country music?

    1. PieInTheSKy

      I would go the route of no speculation until more info is available. Although speculate is what people do in these cases

    2. Can’t ask him, self-inflicted death. So it will be a social media post-mortem like the Scalese shooting.

      1. Hyperion

        He also had a girlfriend who was with him in the room. I’m sure he did plenty of talking before he started shooting.

        1. Private Chipperbot

          They’re now saying she was out of the country.

          1. Hyperion

            Yeah, I saw that. But apparently she had been with him earlier. Either someone has heard him talking a lot about violence or he’s just a nut off his meds.

          2. Hyperion

            But having 10 rifles in his room, I think it’s almost obvious this was planned.

          3. Number.6

            Because if he’d only taken, say 2 or 3, he was just planning on personal protection.

          4. Brett L

            Yes, what is the line there? Asking for a friend.

          5. Well, you could easily take 2, 3, 4 guns with you because you’re in town and plan on going hunting nearby. There’s a big ol’ wildlife refuge north of Vegas and a smaller one to the east, and both are legal for hunting. But 10? Unless you’re a dealer, it’s unlikely you’d haul 10 rifles around with you.

    3. Urthona

      The Daily Wire report claimed it was a FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPON, but they have a definite right-wing bias.

      1. The Zenome Project

        For what it’s worth, ABC was saying the same thing. I tend to believe that it’s likely to be true if two sources w/ different political bents say the same thing.

      2. The police have the weapons – they will make a statement in due time.

        1. Urthona

          Oh damn. What are we going to talk about until then?

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Just randomly speculate.

            Best case scenario on the gun: Full auto that was inventory from Fast and Furious and made its way back across the border.

          2. straffinrun

            Work OJ and Monte Hall into that and you got something big.

          3. commodious spittoon

            The first two doors police busted in had goats behind them?

          4. Number.6

            You beat me to it.

            I wouldn’t be surprised. NEW US Manufactured full auto weapons aren’t going to be sold to the public anywhere in the US. They’d have to be illegally imported, or stolen from the military.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Aren’t radical leftists terrified of guns?

    In Massachusetts, maybe. In the west… don’t be so sure.

  37. The Other Kevin

    Rufus: My wife and I finally sat down to watch the new Will and Grace last night. We used to really like the original run. But the new one was so bad, my wife had me turn it off and delete it 2/3 through the show (it’s extremely rare for my wife to do that). It just wasn’t funny, and it was all “Republicans bad, Trump stupid!” I can’t see it lasting a whole season. Once again people in Hollywood have completely misjudged their viewers.

    1. tarran

      I was kind of surprised to see Will and Grace on my Hulu feed last night. That explains much.

    2. butt-head

      At the end of the episode they had a self-aware moment like “We can get too preachy. We should just be what we always have been, i.e. apolitical.” So maybe they’ll tamp down on the signaling (I’ll be impressed if the writers can actually manage the restraint).

      Also, Karen is the best character and she was a Trump-supporting shit stirrer, and it was funny.

      W&G was never a great show or sitcom. It’s comedy has always been quite cut-and-paste, broad and obvious. But it was easy to watch and decent enough. I thought the new episode was in similar form.

  38. Well amidst all the important news items, one little thing occured: cavalier973 and his ladycav’s tax deduction #5 entered the world.

    1. Gray Ghost

      Congratulations! Ten fingers, ten toes, mom and kid doing all right?

      That’s really wonderful to hear.

      1. Ten fingers, ten toes

        Well, six fingers on one hand, four on the other. at least the seven-three split for the toes can be covered…

      2. Everything is present in the correct distribution aspects. #5 is our second lady, so she has three elder knights as brothers sworn to her protection and an elder lady sister to teach her proper etiquette and form.

        1. Rasilio

          You realize that makes her Aryia right?

    2. SDF-7

      Congrats! Nice to bring out those moments of joy to help balance the day.

    3. The Other Kevin

      Congrats! 5? You are either brave, crazy, Mormon, or you need your dad to sit down and have the talk with you.

      1. leonadasiv

        Hey! I resemble that comment!

      2. Anytime I lose my job, we have another kid. I was laid off in January, so….

    4. MikeS

      And life marches on. Great news cav’! Congrats!

    5. straffinrun

      Excellent!

    6. Old Man With Candy

      Mazeltov- now start a fight by talking about the circumcision.

    7. xenophon

      Congratulations!

    8. The Elite Elite

      Congrats, you crazy person.

    9. Well done! My god man, 5!? Buy that woman a mink! Or a statue!

    10. westernsloper

      #5? Ya know there are ways to reduce the chances of that right? And congrats!

    11. Slammer

      Hooray!! Congrats!!

    12. tarran

      Congrats! At least two more years of poopy diapers!

    13. PBRstreetgang

      Congratulations!
      (I’ve never asked before, why the ‘cavalier’ themed names?)

      1. MikeS

        Because they are so cavalier about their use of contraception

        1. PBRstreetgang

          *claps*

      2. From Baldur’s Gate:

        Cavalier
        This class represents the most common picture of the knight: the gentleman warrior who epitomizes honor, courage, and loyalty. He is specialized in battling ‘classical’ evil monsters such as demons and dragons.

        Advantages:

        Bonus +3 to hit and +3 damage against all demonic and draconic creatures.
        May cast Remove Fear 1 time per day per level.
        Immune to fear and morale failure.
        Immune to poison.
        20% resistance to fire.
        20% resistance to acid.
        Disadvantages:

        May not use missile weapons.

        1. Number.6

          You’re not a very good cavalier, are you?

          You’re firing plenty of ‘missiles’

          1. *gives Jim Belushi-style saucy smile*

        2. In that case, might I suggest a career change? You get all the knightly benefits and can also smite people with guns.

          1. Number.6

            Fuckin’ kids today. Everyone’s a goddamn min-maxer.

            Why, back in my day, we all played a modified version of 1st Edition, and were damned glad to do so. Picked up a copy of 4th edition to look at, wanted to throw up. Perverted idea. Worse than multi-classing.

          2. 4th ed is a tabletop MMO. Ignore it.

          3. Number.6

            Depending on how you view the game – and I see all these things as being co-operative storytelling – all that’s happening is that the game designers and companies are fitting racing tires and spinners to a ’74 Dodge Dart.

            Sure, if the objective is to have a tabletop version of a videogame, the details of the game mechanics become very important.

            I ran a game of my modified 1st ed about 6 months ago for some noob-ish players who had some experience of other game systems, and the mechanics, such as they are, held up pretty well.

            One of the players had the specs for Paladin, and my only advice to him was “It’s hard to be a paladin and uphold your God’s values – and your God DOES watch you.” and let him get on with it. As GM, I get to bust his chops if his alignment drifts. Then it was game on.

            These kids (well, early 20’s) might want to move up to Ars Magica at some point, but for the moment, they’re having far too much fun accidentally immolating themselves when they use burning oil in close quarters.

            Nothing I’ve seen in ‘new’ systems changes the substance of the experience for me, or for the players. I’d simply ignore the petty restrictions/enhancements that the newer systems impose.

          4. 4th edition is awesome. It is the fulfilment of D&D’s promise.

            But, it violated the “wizards rule, fighters drool” principle, so the pseudo-old-school crowd hates it.

            After 4e, I like “Basic” (Moldvay or Mentzer, doesn’t matter) best, and I think one would find that true of most fans of 4th edition.

            I would play 1st edition next, then 2nd, then 3.X

            I am not particularly attracted to the 5th edition rules.

          5. 6, you might like 5e then (though you’d hate Pathfinder). The developers decided that 3.5 and 4e were getting too rukes heavy, so they deliberately took a step in the opposite direction, with quite a bit of inspiration taken from 2e and even AD&D in particular. The rules there are mostly to stop players from becoming broken overpowered (it is rather obsessive with interparty balance) and heavily multiclassing while making minmaxing more difficult. Basic rulea are open source too.

            Personally, while I like both 5e and Pathfinder for different reasons, my favorite system is Mutants and Masterminds. Character creation is complicated, but the tradeoff if being able to make just about any kind of character you want. The gameplay itself is more narrative focused and, at least when I’ve played, runs on crazy awesomeoness.

          6. Psycho Effer

            I’ve been playing in a 1st Edition campaign for about 2 years, running through all of the old school modules. Currently going through the massive Slave Lords campaign. This was largely due to revulsion to 4th Edition. 1st edition has it’s limitations, but it’s simple, and we use a lot of house rules

            Several years ago, I had started a 4th Edition campaign that we decided to switch systems from D&D to Hero System; it was that bad.

            /End Nerdgasm

          7. Rasilio

            While 4th edition was not very well done and it really is a tabletop MMORPG it does actually have some good aspects to it. It is worth studying for game design ideas, it is not worth playing because without a computer to keep track of all of the damage over time effects and condition counters it is basically unplayable.

          8. Number.6

            I’ve been thinking of setting up an over-the-net gaming group with a webcam mounted like a rostrum camera, with something like an IRC or Discord channel for communications, and digging out my old (1980’s/90’s) campaign.

          9. Number.6

            Oh, and has anyone ever played this?

            Very strange and disturbing – even by my standards.

          10. You don’t play a Holy Gun Paladin if you want to minmax. That class is decidedly underpowered, especially compared to the straight gunslinger or the warlord desperado. You play it because you want to play a holy knight smiting people with a flintlock.

    14. Number.6

      Dude, here’s hoping you get another job soon, ‘cos at this rate, you’ll end up with a soccer team.

    15. Someone likes flying their kite.

    16. Count Potato

      Congratulations!

    17. Brett L

      Awesome! Glad to have another body for the breeding project!

      1. Q Continuum

        It is a black or brown body?

    18. Spartan Dad

      Congrats!

    19. DEG

      Congratulations!

    20. Raston Bot

      alright!

      two girls is perfect. now you each have one child to take care of you when you get too old to wipe your own arse.

      1. Exactly. And three to work hard to support us financially.

    21. trshmnstr

      Congratulations!!

    22. mindyourbusiness

      Great news! Good fortune to you and yours.

    23. mexican sharpshooter

      Congratulations!

    24. Tundra

      Congratulations!

      My best to you and the rest of the family!

    25. Sean

      Congratulations!

  39. Q Continuum

    Weapons of mass distraction.

    http://archive.is/wX2BJ

    1, 11, 36.

    1. MikeS

      1 & 2. Both are just cute as a button. A buxom button.

      25 is the (obvious) bunny boiler

      1. 1 and 2 are stunners. And those suckers are just as God made them, too, which is a huge plus.

    2. DEG

      I’m still not feeling too well, I’ll just take a two of #1.

    3. SugarFree

      I think 39 got shot in the face with a Picasso rifle.

      1. Gdragon

        Somewhere, Shannen Doherty read that comment and cried.

    4. Son, 36 looks like she’d do dirty, dirty things.

    5. Slammer

      #7 is the one for me.

      I love #4, too. That expression

    6. Troy

      1, 9, 13, 19, 31

    7. Tundra

      Lucky 13!

      And I’d like to practice some touch-and-gos with 22.

  40. Count Potato

    Maybe this will lead to a cure for insomnia.

    “Scientists share prize awarded for discoveries of molecular mechanisms controlling circadian rhythms – the body’s inner clock – fundamental to human health”

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/live/2017/oct/02/the-2017-nobel-prize-in-physiology-or-medicine-live

    1. Urthona

      Nerd alert!

  41. Q Continuum

    RE: Vegas shooting.

    I hate that the Left has made it such that my first thought after reading this is not sympathy for victims and anger at the perp it’s, “Oh joy. Now I get to hear screeds about gun control 24/7 for the next couple weeks.”

    1. The Zenome Project

      I’m sure that every leftist on Twitter is hoping that the weapon was semi-auto, so that the talking point sticks.

      1. How many of them know the difference?

        1. Urthona

          I don’t know guns, but I’d speculate that one is about half the amount of automatic-ness of t’other.

          1. The Elite Elite

            Semi-auto means it fires 50 bullets per trigger pull. Full auto means it fires about 10000 rounds a minute.

          2. Urthona

            I don’t know how to convert between the two things. Maybe if we made everything parsecs?

          3. leonadasiv

            Close. Automatic=hold trigger; lots of pew,pew.
            Semi-automatic=hold trigger; one pew

          4. Urthona

            Perfect.

    2. The Elite Elite

      Yup. Every time a shooting happens in America, “All gun owners are potential dangers to society!” Meanwhile, in Europe, “Not all muslims you bigot!” Isn’t it fun how predictable these people are?

      1. straffinrun

        You can disown your love of guns and they won’t try to kill you.

      2. commodious spittoon

        I’d be perfectly happy with the “Not all Muslims” defense if it weren’t for the fact that nearly every one of the psychos who end up snapping are already known to police, or recent migrants who weren’t thoroughly vetted. Okay, you’re right, it’s a tiny minority of Muslims, and even then you can’t seem to stop the violence.

    3. DEG

      I hate that the Left has made it such that my first thought after reading this is not sympathy for victims and anger at the perp it’s, ā€œOh joy. Now I get to hear screeds about gun control 24/7 for the next couple weeks.ā€

      That was my first thought too. Fuck the world.

    4. Yeah, I’m sitting here getting ready to mill out a lower and looking at a can of ammo. Awkward.

      I hate that I have to reiterate how unlikely it is for a person in this country to be killed with a gun. There was a genuine tragedy, but through either ignorance or crass opportunism or both there are going to be people using this as a chance to attack your right to self-defense.

    5. thom

      Not if you ignore social media and television news. Quitting Facebook was the best decision I ever made.

      1. MikeS

        Ditto to thom. No facebook and no TV news makes life so much less stressful.

      2. xenophon

        Amen. Me too.

  42. Count Potato

    “Fake Bus Stops For Alzheimer’s patients in Germany

    Before this unique system was created the center frequently had been forced to rely on police to retrieve the Alzheimer’s patients who often wanted to go to homes and families that did not exist. After some careful observation, the staff at the center noticed a trend that escaped Alzheimer’s patients often headed directly to their only exit: public transportation. The theory of why this type of deception works is that in Alzheimer’s patients their short-term memory hardly works at all, but the long-term memory is still active. They know the green and yellow bus sign and remember that waiting there means they will go home.”

    http://www.theiacp.org/Fake-Bus-Stops-For-Alzheimers-patients-in-Germany

    1. RBS

      They know the green and yellow bus sign and remember that waiting there means they will go home.

      That is pretty sad.

      1. Number.6

        If the NHS get wind of this, some asshole at NICE will build special bus stops with woodchippers installed underneath them.

        1. Brett L

          Still can’t believe the actually went and named it NICE.

          1. Number.6

            +1 Orwell, grinning maniacally

    2. Q Continuum

      I don’t know why I find this hilarious. Maybe I’m just a terrible person.

      1. Number.6

        Dude, that’s a question you should never have to ask yourself.

        My immediate take was actually that Monty Python Sketch about the Architect’s Presentation. I had to tone it down a bit for my reaction above.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    NEEDZ MOAR SOCIALISMZ

    Mohaan Biswas was speeding takeout orders to customers in London for the online food delivery start-up Deliveroo when he fell from his motorbike, breaking his foot in two places.

    Because Deliveroo classifies its riders as self-employed, he received no sick time or insurance, and hasn’t been paid for the past six weeks as he recovers.

    ā€œIn a job you can negotiate with the boss — we can’t do that,ā€ said Mr. Biswas, who had dragged himself on crutches to a demonstration against precarious forms of work recently in central London. ā€œWe’re stuck in a perpetually insecure system, where we all get exploited.ā€

    Like thousands of people in Europe and the United States, Mr. Biswas, 24, was discovering an uncomfortable reality about the on-demand economy: He got a paycheck when there was enough work to go around, but had little to fall back on if there wasn’t.

    Obviously, this poor man is nothing more than a slave. If only England had some Social Democrats to provide a safety net, instead of the unfettered dog-eat-dog capitalism which currently reigns.

    1. “I’m self-employed when I want to be able to decide when I’m working. But when I break my foot I want to be someone else’s employee.”

      Entitled bastard. You picked your trade-off, live with it.

    2. Rasilio

      Err if you are self employed you are supposed to buy yourself insurance and save money for a rainy day. Just like the business owners.

  44. LJW

    Sounds like the shooter was just a nut ball, no political affiliation. Which means the left and their media partners are going to go full on gun control.

    1. The Zenome Project

      That’s what his brother was saying, that he was a normal dude with no political or religious affiliation. He did, however, also say that they hadn’t kept in touch for a long time and were living in different parts of the country, but who knows? I’m leaning up towards straight up demented psychopath.

  45. SugarFree

    Milo marries black guy; Gawker struggles to find the strength to go on.

    http://www.theroot.com/milo-yiannopoulos-married-a-black-man-1819052191

    1. Number.6

      The ultimate cultural appropriation. Owning a whole black guy, all to yourself.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Why just one?

        1. Number.6

          Milo: I love black guys, but I couldn’t eat more than one at a time.

    2. Brett L

      “He may be the worlds biggest racist…”

      Uh. I don’t… That just doesn’t… Come again?

      1. Count Potato

        Ditto.

        1. DOOMco

          no, the worlds biggest racist just married a different race. I think she could be right, but it really just shows that racism is ending.

    3. Slammer

      The comments…

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      He may be the world’s biggest racist and transphobic troll

      I see their predilection for exuberant overstatement has not been diminished.

    5. The Zenome Project

      “That’s a Clarence Thomas black guy, that doesn’t count! Fuck that house coon!”

      /racist lefty

    6. Scruffy Nerfherder

      If ever there was any doubt that root commenters are nucking futs.

      This man doesn’t hate himself.

      In fact he loves himself more than he loves his Blackness.

      That’s exactly why he can turn his blinders on.

      That’s a special kind of arrogance right there.

      1. MikeS

        Yes, there is a special kind of arrogance right there…in that comment.

      2. Rasilio

        Err, shouldn’t he love himself more than he loves his skin color?

        1. butt-head

          Not according to collectivists / tribalists / True Believers.

    7. DOOMco

      top notch, that author and the commenters.

    1. LJW

      “Malarkey is slang for “bullshit,” isn’t it? Rust on the butt-plate hinge spring, Private Bullshit – revoked.”

      RIP

  46. The Late P Brooks

    Milo marries black guy; Gawker struggles to find the strength to go on.

    “Hey! That’s cheating!”

  47. Ed Wuncler

    Me: Looks on Facebook while eating breakfast. Read that there was a shooting in Las Vegas. Immediately logged off of Facebook.

    There’s going to be a lot of derp today.

    1. trshmnstr

      Deleting the account makes things so much more tolerable.

      1. I celebrate another day of never having an account in the first place.

      2. Ed Wuncler

        I’ve actually considered it especially after the 2016 Presidential Election.

        1. trshmnstr

          I deleted mine in May, and I haven’t looked back. The few folks I was afraid of losing contact with have been active over email.

        2. Q Continuum

          Do it man. It’s just another useless artificial need that you will miss for one day and then wonder why you ever used it in the first place.

  48. Ken Shultz

    On the one hand, I want to wait for the facts before turning this into a political issue, but, on the other hand, the facts shouldn’t matter either way–if we’re talking about an emotional response that threatens our rights.

    On the one hand, we shouldn’t respond to this emotionally, but on the other hand, not responding emotionally to tragedy is wrong.

    Terrible tragedy. Condolences to the victims, their friends, and their families.

    1. Feel sympathy for the victims because you’re a human being. And get ready to have to defend your rights against people who will use this as a lever. Sucks, but the second thing I thought when I heard about this was, “Time to send a few bucks to the NRA again.”

    2. trshmnstr

      On the one hand, we shouldn’t respond to this emotionally, but on the other hand, not responding emotionally to tragedy is wrong.

      Absolutely. The emotional response is natural. What isn’t natural is manipulating the emotional response into a “there should be a law” furor.

      1. There are genuinely good people who are going to say that this is a reason guns should be illegal, because it’s a visceral reaction to tragedy against something that isn’t familiar to them. It’s like people who hear about a dog attack and say, “Pit bulls should be illegal!” Shit, I love guns, and if I thought you could prevent murder and violence and all bad things by banning them I’d be all for it. It’s normal to want an easy, obvious solution to problems. They don’t usually exist, but that doesn’t make the prospect less appealing.

      2. And the people doing the manipulating only care about their pet issue, so they only cover obes that fit their narrative (so silence on Charlottesville church shooting) or the ones too big to ignore, but conveniently ignore or downay the stuff that runs against the narrative (Paris, Orlando.) What sickens me is things like a response to Orlando I saw where people were eagerly hoping it was a white Christian, and the same people lamented it was a Muslim because it would “feed into the right’s Islamaphobia.” For those kinds of people, the victims are just a bloody pulpit for them to screech louder.

  49. Raston Bot

    how to pre-shame these fuckers into only killing themselves and not taking others along for their death ride? what about a “Spinless, Worthless Coward” monument where all these fuckers that can’t just suicide themselves in peace have their family names engraved for all eternity? the memorial is a statue of some guy on his back with a dog pissing on his face. and it doubles as a public urinal.

    1. Grumbletarian

      I’d donate to a fund to build that.

    2. I’m afraid that wouldn’t help. Some are losers out on a power trip who wouldn’t care, while others might pull a herostratus specifically to have their names engraved forever.

      1. Raston Bot

        forever on a monument for cowards with a guy getting golden showered by a dog? what if the dog was hot-lunching the statue?

  50. Scruffy Nerfherder

    DU hot take on the shooting

    2nd amendment rights are not supreme. You cannot have freedom if society is fearful.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Bonus legal eagletry

      Assault rifles are to the second amendment as yelling fire in a crowded theater is to the first amendment.

      1. Suthenboy

        “Assault rifles are to the second amendment as yelling fire in a crowded theater is to the first amendment.”

        That is correct. They are both canards.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Nice.

        2. R C Dean

          Of course, they even get their canard wrong, because they’re idiots. It wasn’t “yelling fire in a crowded theater”. It was “falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater.”

          Yelling fire in a crowded theater that is on fire is actually a public service, you know. So I’ll say that, just as yelling fire in a crowded theater can be a public service, so can owning an “assault rifle”, a well-regulated militia being necessary, etc.

          1. invisible finger

            Falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater only happened when the projectionists union was targeting non-union theaters.

    2. Suthenboy

      Commies want to confiscate guns. Imagine that.

      The only thing confining Antifa to ultra-blue areas and tempering their actions is the second amendment. Of course DU wants the second A done away with.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Some mental illness

      I think New York state has fairly sensible gun laws, but even though it’s only a 20-minute drive from where I live (and I can see Fort Niagara across the river from my back deck) I’m always, ALWAYS fearful when my niece drags me over to do some shopping. I cannot imagine living in an open-carry environment. We used to only be afraid of drunk drivers and schizophrenics off their medication……there is no such thing as freedom in the US anymore. JMHO, of course.

      1. Yes, because it is well known open carry environments are a constant bulletstorm of death with skyhigh murder rates, as oposed to places with common sense gun control like Detroit, D.C., and New York.

      2. That person is just plain stupid. I never felt unsafe in Niagara Falls, and I didn’t hear how much of a crime-riddled shithole it was until after I left. I would both be safer and feel safer in an open-carry environment. And New York has ROCK STUPID, EVIL LAWS!

        1. Number.6

          When the miasma of yesterday’s horrible events dissipates, remind me to relate one of the #6 Clan’s experiences in Niagara.

          1. I may have had the advantage of not wandering too far from the park.

            Did you get to get Old Fort Niagara close up? I recommend it.

          2. Number.6

            Yep. #6.2 is a history nut, Couldn’t have missed that.

    4. Q Continuum

      “You cannot have freedom if society is fearful”

      That is a non-sequitur if I’ve ever heard one. Whether you’re fearful or not has absolutely NOTHING to do with freedom. Nothing. Your mental state and civil liberties are utterly unrelated.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s unintentionally true. A paranoid society will curtail freedoms in the name of safety and security. What it is not, is a valid justification for doing so.

  51. Raston Bot

    I’m not seeing the calls for banning 2A at HuffPo’s main story on the massacre. Did HuffPo edit the article and lower the bloody shirt?

  52. Lachowsky

    http://5newsonline.com/2017/09/28/man-faces-attempted-murder-charge-in-alleged-vehicle-assault/

    O.G. Marvin Million of Springdale is accused of running over Kayleigh Mahler, 19, of Fayetteville.

    The name is hilarious

    1. Raston Bot

      his birth cert says “O.G.”?

  53. commodious spittoon

    Reposting from last night’s links, because this shit burns me up: Trucking teamsters in Puerto Rico spent last week striking for higher pay. Trump’s “botched” effort to aid PR? Total fabrication by the left. I would love to know whether Mayor Cruz had a hand in prompting this: from what I hear, the teamsters wanted to embarrass the governor in retaliation for a policy affecting truckers signed into law under a month ago.

    1. Raston Bot

      glad to see PR residents skeptical of the gas shortage claim by the union president.

    2. Michael

      A few of my FB friends have been passing around photos of the mayor wading in waist-deep water while selflessly performing relief work and totally not posing for any opportunistically staged propaganda shots.

      1. Raston Bot

        be sure to post the one of her standing in front of pallets of relief supplies while complaining.

      2. commodious spittoon

        You just know CNN was champing at the bit to get down there with cameras and t-shirts and a crew of propagandists to set up shots. Fuckers really thought they’d make this another Katrina. The thing about Katrina was, neither Facebook nor Twitter nor most of the bevy of alternative news outlets existed yet. CNN et al. are playing by the old playbook, thinking they still have a lock on news distribution.

    3. Gilmore

      : Trucking teamsters in Puerto Rico spent last week striking for higher pay. Trump’s ā€œbotchedā€ effort to aid PR? Total fabrication by the left.

      There were tons of local reporters covering this in puerto rico, and it was given total media-blackout in the US, in favor of focusing on Trump-tweets

    4. Gray Ghost

      Ah, so the truckers were striking after all. I’d asked Kristen (and the rest of y’all) about it a few days ago, and she felt it was a fake story. I leaned that way too—it certainly smelled like Team Red bait.

      Interesting to see it was true.

  54. Vhyrus

    I’m calling it here: this is going to be the make or break for the 2a. Either we get actual long term gun control or 2a weathers the storm and is basically untouchable for a generation. Buy your guns now cause this could be the big one.

    1. trshmnstr

      I wish I had the money for an AR right now. That would round out my collection.

      1. Vhyrus

        Buy a stripped lower pronto. You can get a aero precision lower for like 50 bucks. You can always build it up over time

        1. xenophon

          So if you were to pick up a rifle, a shotgun, and a handgun today, what would you get?

          Side question: I have a .308 hunting rifle. If I were to get an AR, would you recommend sticking with .308 to make stocking/reloading easier, or would you go for a .223 or something?

          Additional side question: If you were to recommend a shottie for home defense, what would you recommed and/or what would you look for?

          1. Number.6

            Just buy a load of 308 ammo for that hunting rifle, so you can get good at shooting and reloading at speed.
            Shotgun? Mossberg pump, whatever style you like the looks of. Just make sure you go for a short-ish barrel.
            Handgun? Something plastic with ubiquitous spares. I don’t *like* Glock, but a Glock would be fine.

            You’re buying tools, not heirlooms.

          2. Q Continuum

            .223. Cheaper and more ubiquitous ammo.

          3. Vhyrus

            Get an ar 15, they are cheap plentiful and the most likely thing to be banned if the worst case happens. If you have money left over get an ar 10.

            I wouldn’t worry about shotguns or handguns right now, those aren’t going anywhere.

            Shotgun for home defense? 12 gauge pump. There are literally way to many to name but Mossberg is always a reliable choice. Don’t be afraid to buy a cheap shotgun, just put at least 100 rounds through it and make sure it works. The one thing I would look for us ghost ring sights or a rail for a red dot, 18 inch barrel, and 7 or 8 round capacity.

          4. Gray Ghost

            Stick with the .223 for home defense. I mean, get a shotgun, why not right? Hunting is fun, sporting clays are fun, and a 12 gauge with buck is as close as we get to an “off switch for people,” but the .223 carbine is better for HD for a variety of reasons.

            What do you want to do with the handgun? Target, Concealed Carry, gun games?

            Me? 16 inch AR in 5.56 with red dot. 1 in 7 or 8 barrel. Then a 9mm of some variety. Try before you buy. I like Glocks, so I’d get a 19 like everyone else. Finally, a semi (never grew up with pumps) in 12 gauge. Win 1300 or older Remi 1100. Benelli or Beretta if you’re loaded.

          5. DOOMco

            The PPQ/CCP feel great compared to the G19/43. at least to me. glocks do have every other gun beat when it comes aftermarket time.

        2. DOOMco

          I am broke, but a lower might come home.

    2. Ed Wuncler

      A lot of members of the GOP know that they are endangered of getting primaried, especially after the health care debacle, so I think they are going to do whatever they can to protect the 2nd Amendment. But then again, I’m an optimist.

      1. The Zenome Project

        I think that this is quite true. I also think that deep down in their brains, the Democratic leadership (not the little people, but the Pelosis and Schumers of the world) know that going full derp on guns will kill their chances of ever having House majorities for some time, since they need pro-gun Blue Dogs.

        1. Vhyrus

          You think way too highly of them

          1. wdalasio

            No. I think he’s right about that. But, I think they also know a large segment of their base wants gun control, political consequences be damned. For the leadership, the goal is all about acquiring and maintaining power. For much of the base, it really is about humiliating “those people”. It’s why any amount of studies showing that gun control doesn’t curb violence gets met with nothing but blank stares.

      2. R C Dean

        I think they are going to do whatever they can to protect the 2nd Amendment

        The fuckers have sidelined concealed carry reciprocity and suppressor deregulation. I wouldn’t bet on it.

        1. The Zenome Project

          Apparently the latter is on the verge of being passed with strong majorities in the House. Again, though, the problem is the Senate. A few more RINO primaries will do the trick.

          1. I can’t find a good answer as to whether reciprocity will help those of us living in no-issue states masquerading as may-issue states.

            I get what it’s supposed to do for everyone else (Even if New Jersey will keep arresting lawful owners), but can’t figure out if it will have any impact on me one way or another.

          2. Spartan Dad

            There’s a couple states that you should be able to get an out of state CCW from with minimal difficulty. I believe Florida is one. VA may be another.

          3. But how will FFLs react if I try to then go and buy something in the handgun range with it?

            After all I didn’t Jump through all these hoops.

            (Go ahead and read the forms if you want to weep).

        2. Gray Ghost

          I’m with Dean. Moreover, I’m not expecting Trump to hold the line if Congress really loses its spine on this one.

          Insert deal-making dialogue here.

    3. The Zenome Project

      Why? This attack has nothing to do with gun control, mainly because the gun was quite likely to be a gun that was tightly regulated against civilian use to begin with. Whatever narrative that the Left is going to try to pull is not going to stick with the majority of “wrong-thinking” Americans.

      1. thom

        Many anti-2nd Amendment arguments from the left these days seem to focus on the amount of guns that are out in the world. The argument being that whether a specific gun is illegal or not is irrelevant, police are simply overwhelmed by a massive number of firearms that has grown out of control.

      2. Vhyrus

        I’m telling you all this right now, I am 1000% sure there were no fully auto weapons used in these attacks. They were either binary triggers, slide fire stocks, or handcrank. I have listened to multiple videos, I know what full auto sounds like and I know what bump fire sounds like and they were absolutely unquestionably bump fire.

        1. Suthenboy

          Agreed. I am going with hand-crank given the fast/slow rate variation. Look for those devices to be nixed in the near future. Other than that gun control goes nowhere. See Wuncler above.

        2. MikeS

          binary triggers, slide fire stocks, or handcrank

          Can you give a quick explanation how these differ from full auto? I get handcrank, but not the other two.

          1. Lachowsky

            bump fire uses the recoil from the firing of the round to aid the user in resetting the trigger. Fuck if I know what a binary trigger is

          2. Number.6

            Binary: Fires once when you pull the trigger, fires again on release of trigger. Not high on my list of safe mechanisms.

          3. Vhyrus

            One of my first firearms Fridays went over the differences. I’m on my phone on a plane so I can’t link it right now but go back through my articles on here and you’ll find it

          4. MikeS

            Must have missed that one. I’ll find it, thanks

    4. Raston Bot

      the make or break moment was five years ago when 20 cute innocent 5- and 6-year olds were massacred by some psycho with a Bushmaster.

      1. Vhyrus

        This is going to make sandy hook look like a saturday night in chicago. Mark my words. I’m predicting 100 fatalities once the dust clears.

        1. Hyperion

          There will be more than 50, almost for certain.

        2. Raston Bot

          yeah, but they were country music-loving rednecks. not saintly New England K and 1st graders. big difference.

        3. Lachowsky

          Bullshit. I didn’t have to turn my guns in after a room full of dead kindergarten kids. You’re over reacting. Hop off the gun blogs and you will see that this isn’t going to make the end of the 2A either

          1. Hyperion

            Nothing will happen. A couple weeks of toothless bitching and whining from Democrats, then they’ll be right back to Trump and Russia and free everything for everyone.

    5. Sean

      I have everything that I want/need, plus more. I’m planning on going out this weekend and doing some impulse buying. Just in case.

  55. Vhyrus

    I’m also going to throw my tinfoil hat on for a second. The first time the hearing protection act was to come up for a vote, the scalise shooting happened. It was supposed to come back up this week and now this happens. That is a miraculous coincidence, two high profile shootings occurring immediately before a high profile pro gun bill is to be voted on.

  56. Keeping in mind necessary disclaimers about believing early reports and about believing fucking ISIS, ISIS has reportedly claimed responsibility, according to the AP.

    1. Vhyrus

      Yeah I know a ton of white retirees that convert to radical militant Islam.

      -No one

  57. The Late P Brooks

    The politicization of everything continues.

    For decades, advertisers have striven to stay away from any topic that might prove controversial or divisive. Times have changed.

    That was a recurring theme during the recently concluded Advertising Week New York, an annual industry conference in Manhattan that has turned into its own global enterprise. (Next year, regional versions of the event will be held in Mexico City, London, Tokyo and Sydney.)

    The responsibility of companies, particularly advertisers, to advocate on social issues and to provide a moral compass in a fraught political environment came up repeatedly during the week.

    Yeah, good luck with that. Turn your goddam antifreeze ad into a “teaching moment” about gender fluidity. That’ll get me to buy it.

    1. wdalasio

      These folks keep pushing these sorts of initiatives. They’ll pat themselves on the back for their “bravery” in attacking someone or something that everyone else in their social network hates and then talk about how its a mystery that sales or viewership is down. Really, it’s not so much bravery as arrogance.

  58. Hyperion

    Some reporting now that the guy is a recent Muslim convert. Not sure if there is any truth to it, but ISIS is also claiming responsibility. Of course, they would if it’s true or not. I would have never suspected it, no sarcasm. Thought he would turn out to have a bad case of TDS or just a bad case of crazy. Anyway, if I were the fuzz, I’d be looking for the woman who was telling people they’re all going to die, like right now.

    1. Raston Bot

      the irony being the Leftists will get their wish and this attack will be labeled “Terrorism”.

    2. Number.6

      We should do two things.

      Reject the ridiculous claim (I mean, really), and remind ourselves that ISIS are evil shits that need to be dealt with – not for Las Vegas – but for the many, many other atrocities they’ve perpetrated,

  59. wdalasio

    The Juice is loose (and is telling people to fuck off about his plans).

    Well, we all should know what his plans are. He’s going to resume his hunt for the one-armed man.

    1. Gray Ghost

      He should start with his own kid.

  60. Q Continuum

    Could be complete BS and ISIS stands nothing to lose by lying about this but…

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/islamic-state-claims-las-vegas-attack-says-shooter-141433433.html

    Bonus: after listening to some experts on the radio this morning (one ex-SEAL, one Marine infantryman), they both said that listening to the tape it was impossible that it was an AR-15 or M4. They both said they were certain that it was fully auto and either had a drum mag or was belt fed. Their guesses were an AK with a drum mag or possibly a belt fed M60. As it would be very, very difficult to get your hands on such a weapon unless you’re a dealer, I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility that he had help from a terrorist organization (like ISIS) to smuggle the weapon to him. Just a thought.

    1. Q Continuum

      Hyperion beat me to it. Refresh Q, you moron!

      1. Hyperion

        Carl actually beat me to it, but 2 minutes or something…

        1. Hyperion

          I don’t actually believe it, yet. What I’d like to know is who was the person walking around the crowd saying everyone was going to die. Seems to be too odd to be a coincidence.

          1. No, I think it was coincidence. It’s a sort of outburst I can easily see happening at other events where nothing goes down. It has to be looked at, but I don’t think it’s related.

    2. thom

      It makes sense as a strategy: recruit under-the-radar crazies in your target country and supply them with weapons. Basically, weaponize the insane.

      1. Social Justice is Neither

        So ISIS taking a cue from the DNC?

    3. Number.6

      Applying Occams Razor, far higher probability of being an AK. I can’t identify guns by their sound, least of all the footage we’re getting, but I’m pretty sure all the footage I heard had ‘breaks’ in the firing that might have been mag changes. You can get 30-round and larger mags for AKs and other kinds of battle rifle which would fit the bill.

    4. Urthona

      Yeah I’m going to call bullsh, but nice try ISIS.

  61. The Late P Brooks

    Maybe we should ban gatherings of more than fifty people.

    1. Q Continuum

      Let’s just put everyone pre-emptively in prison. That way we can control what everyone does and there will be complete safety. For the children.

    2. thom

      What we need are reasonable, common sense restrictions on travel and association.

    3. commodious spittoon

      *shrugs*

      You know, you can stream music now.

  62. Lachowsky

    I just watched trump talk about the meeting. It was non political. I think he did well.

  63. Raston Bot

    the only way ISIS could start converting our OFWGs to do their killing for them is with poontang. copious amounts of poontang.

    1. Vhyrus

      He’ll for enough sex slaves I’ll mow down the venue of your choice.

      NOTE TO BOB FROM NSA: THIS IS SATIRE.

    2. Q Continuum

      Well, he was in Vegas and ISIS has the money for prostitutes…

      1. Hyperion

        And as a bonus, he now gets 27 virgins. Or some number of virgins.

        1. wdalasio

          Yeah. Unfortunately for him, the sex of the virgins was never specified.

          1. They’re all gender fluid tumblerinas and betas.

  64. KibbledKristen

    Trump speaks for 5 minutes, CNN will spend 2 hours analyzing it.

  65. KibbledKristen

    Listening to cosmic background radiation to drown out colleagues talking about Vegas.

    Thank you, Penzias & Wilson!

    1. Q Continuum

      Days like this I thank G-d for my almost completely apolitical office.

      1. Number.6

        Dear bog, I wish mine was. I’ve only had 3 heads pop in to ask me my insta-opinion so far though.

  66. The Late P Brooks

    Kristen porn

    An Air France flight bound for Los Angeles from Paris made an emergency landing in Canada on Saturday after one of the jumbo jet’s four engines exploded in midair, passengers said.

    Passengers aboard the double-decker Airbus A380, the world’s largest passenger airliner, described hearing a loud noise about five hours into the flight. The plane, which had just crossed the southern tip of Greenland, vibrated for several minutes.

    With photos. Yikes!

    1. KibbledKristen

      Saw that as it happened on FR24. And people ask me why I’m afraid to fly when I’m such an avgeek! Sheesh!

      1. commodious spittoon

        I’m always giddy for the first several seconds while we’re climbing, then totally relaxed after a few hundred feet when we reach the point at which any malfunction would probably be deadly. I don’t know why that is.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          uhhh, you’ve got it a little backwards. The first few and last few seconds of the flight are the most dangerous as far as equipment malfunctions are concerned.

          1. Hyperion

            Yeah, but I’m the same way. I hate the ascent, it makes me really nervous for some reason. The descent on otoh, I’m completely relaxed. Probably mostly due to the fact that I know I’m soon getting out of that flying tin chicken coup for humans.

          2. commodious spittoon

            Usually by the descent I’m buzzed so that helps.

          3. Hyperion

            I’m typically buzzed before I board.

          4. commodious spittoon

            Fair point.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Kristen porn

      It’s a pretty hairy situation.

      1. Gray Ghost

        Kristen porn

        It’s a pretty hairy situation.

        No narrowed gaze, Swiss?

        And it happened near Iceland too.

    3. She won’t appreciate me ragging on Airbus (especially since I think that was a US-made Engine that shredded)

      1. KibbledKristen

        I don’t have a dog in the aircraft manufacturer fight. Love the A380 and the Beluga, but I also love the Dreamliner and the 747.

        1. Mostly I pick on Airbus because of their association with the French.

          I don’t know if I’ve ever been on a 380. I know I’ve never been on a dreamliner. Of flights I’ve taken, they’ve mostly been 767s and 747s. I think I once rode on a 777, but it might have been a 767 with a redone interior. Whichever it was, it was my favorite.

          The plane I liked the least was a prop plane on a Philly-Salisbury hop. You had to walk right past the propellor on the way to the door. I can’t be certain if they were spinning at the time. Logic says they shouldn’t have been, but my memory of being distressed greatly by the experience says they were.

          1. Number.6

            The thing about that prop plane you should like?

            Bastard can glide a LONG way even if you lose all the engines.

          2. KibbledKristen

            I think the only passenger commercial jets I haven’t been on are the A340, A380, and 787. I am dying to experience the wing flex of the 787.

            I remember coming back from Turkey in the mid-90’s when the 777 had just gone into service. There were videos screens in the back of all the seats!! It was nice, because it was a London-to-Los Angeles flight, non-stop.

          3. They retrofitted those screens onto at least some of the 747s in the intervening years. (Half the time I tuned it to the ‘where are we now’ screen.)

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s highly unusual. Engines typically flame out on takeoff or shortly thereafter, not well into a flight.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’ve been on a flight that happened to. It was in a 757 during climb out at about 2000 feet. Sounded like a backfire. The whole cabin went from chatty to dead silent.

    5. KibbledKristen

      (also, disappointed this is not a nude Mike Rowe drone photo)

      1. Lachowsky

        I’m as straight as they get, and I’d get a woody watching a nekid mike Rowe shotgun a drone.

    6. Drake

      It has 4 engines for a reason. I’d be much more panicky if it happened on one of the ubiquitous 737s I get on every domestic flight these days.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Remember when 737s used to fall right out of the sky on final approach because of a frozen servo in the rudder?

        Good times, good times.

        1. Vhyrus

          I’m literally on a 737 making final approach right now. SHUT. UP.

          1. KibbledKristen

            Did Vhyrus make it? We may never know…

  67. KibbledKristen

    HRH HRC is going full retard on Twitter. Like, 100 mph retard.

    1. LJW

      “Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again.”

      1. KibbledKristen

        She also said a “silencer” on these rifles would have resulted in more casualties, because the victims wouldn’t be able to hear anything.

        She really is turning on the afterburners.

        1. Gray Ghost

          She also said a ā€œsilencerā€ on these rifles would have resulted in more casualties, because the victims wouldn’t be able to hear anything.

          Because you then couldn’t hear the sonic booms from the bullets, that everyone at first thought were firecrackers, they were so loud. For fuck’s sake, the cell phone videos are right there! With sound and everything!

          Evil cynical bitch.

      2. B.P.

        It’s usually good form to put a paragraph or two in between the two parts of a naked, laughable contradiction.

      3. Suthenboy

        What she means is complete confiscation. Except for hers, of course.

        1. KibbledKristen

          Yeah, old white ladies who have armed security for life at taxpayer expense shouldn’t throw stones.

  68. LJW

    Preventing Future Mass Shootings Like Las Vegas

    The level of derp is mind blowing. Not one thing he mentions would have prevented a single mass shooting.

    1. I hate it when they start calling for specific legislative actions to stop future mass shootings like X before we even know the details of X, and when the details come out the proposed laws would habe done nothing. I swear they have these types of articles prewritten, with a filler word for wherever the tragedy happened so they can quickly Find-and-replace it and get it out before the bodies cool.

      1. DOOMco

        “ban under 21 from buying guns” –wasn’t this guy kinda… old?

    2. wdalasio

      Not one thing he mentions would have prevented a single mass shooting.

      Of course it wouldn’t. Nothing about his agenda has anything to do with this or any other mass shooting. Think about it. This was published within a couple of hours of the shooting. That includes the time for the editors to review it. The little fucker had the piece pre-written just waiting like a ghoul for the next psychotic to strike so he could push his agenda.

    3. Vhyrus

      The interesting thing is that was an extremely take list, especially by nyt standards. He didn’t even mention magazine capacity or assault weapons.

      I’m starting to think we may be legitimately winning the culture war on this one.

      1. Vhyrus

        Take=tame

      2. The Zenome Project

        This year is the very first year that I can remember that the right has been winning the culture war (mainly because Trump, flaws and all, innately understands culture better than any political figure in recent memory). That bodes well for future policy, since policy is generally influenced by culture.

    4. Suthenboy

      The comments there. Geez.

    1. LJW

      Thanks to Hollywood people think silencers sound like squeaky farts.

    2. LJW

      “Silencer, how quaint. Wasn’t that the role you were given to deal with your husbands ‘bimbo’ accusations?”

      One of the responses.

    3. Raston Bot

      Toastā€ @CreedyMr 15m15 minutes ago

      Replying to @HillaryClinton
      Imagine if we had a silencer for YOU!!

    4. Michael

      Haven’t nearly all progressives already been schooled on how suppressors work? How is it that Clinton – their greatest hope in 2016 – can be so laughably behind the curve on this? One of her handlers should fire all of her other handlers and replace them with all new handlers.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Because she lies and the lies she tells are the lies her congregants want to hear.

      2. butt-head

        Fire? What, like with a blowtorch?

    5. Suthenboy

      How far was the guy shooting? 400+ yards? Anything that will effectively shoot that far wont be suppressed by a ‘silencer’. As usual she is completely full of shit.

      1. R C Dean

        Here’s a map showing the hotel and concert venue. On Google Earth, I get around 400 yards, depending on where he was in the hotel. If he’s in the arm closest to the venue, its under 300 yards.

  69. The Late P Brooks

    “put politics aside and stand up to the NRA”

    AND THEIR REPUBLIKKKIN PUPPETS!!!

  70. The Late P Brooks

    Wow- Hillbot is getting savaged in the replies.

    “Go back to the woods.”

    “Wish we had a silencer for you.”

  71. DOOMco

    Penn and Teller on the 2nd seems relevant today. I wish the gun control people could wait even 24 full hours. people are still in surgery.

  72. commodious spittoon

    David Burge
    @iowahawkblog

    God bless our Twitter First Responders

    Sums it up pretty well.

  73. Count Potato

    “YouTube continues it’s harassment, censorship & demonetization of any video creator to the political right of Fidel Castro.”

    http://milosexual.com/uncategorized/trans-phobic-bigots-at-youtube-demonetize-popular-transgender-blaire-white-msblairewhite-milosexual-alert/

      1. Q Continuum

        If that’s her real picture, would.

        1. Count Potato

          Her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andrea.loko/

          I just think it hilarious that there is a website analyzes Twitter accounts to see if someone is a troll. And sad that people are getting suspended/demonetized/etc. based on similar algorithmic crap.

          1. Q Continuum

            Would confirmed.

  74. Ed Wuncler

    “My heart goes out to those affected by this atrocious act. We live in a society where a guy can easily get at least ten (10+) assault rifles from his vehicle to a hotel room without attracting suspicion; at what point do we start admitting we have a problem?”

    From my Derpbook

    1. Number.6

      Time to cancel that account, man. For your own sanity.

      1. Ed Wuncler

        I’m tempted to ask, “What law would have prevented this man from shooting the concert goers?”

        Whenever you ask them that, they got all flustered and say, “But we have to do something.” And then have the nerve to freak out when you press them.

    2. Hyperion

      So what are we going to do? Only have one door for hotel entry and everyone has to pass through a checkpoint like at an airport every time they enter? I can 100% guarantee that if someone wants to, they can sneak all of that into a hotel room anywhere on the planet.

      1. Ed Wuncler

        The troubling aspect of gun control advocates is that they know dick about guns or the laws used to regulate them.

        1. Number.6

          Why do you think that isn’t true of advocates for a lot of other kinds of control?

          Do you honestly believe that the politicians are any better informed about pharaceuticals? Foreign Policy? Domestic Security? The Economy?

          1. DOOMco

            some of those are just regulatory capture.

          2. Number.6

            OK, so that’s something politicians DO understand, but apart from that ….

        2. commodious spittoon

          Troubling, but predictable. It’s always a black box for these people.

          Healthcare is broken. Just pass the law that makes healthcare affordable!

          We did, and it failed.

          Okay, pass the law that makes healthcare universal, on the taxpayer dime!

          We do that already for a whole lot of people between Medicare and Medicaid and the VA, and those programs are fiscal disasters. The latter two barely function.

          Look, just pass the law that makes it all work, for free!

          1. Q Continuum

            Look commodious, you just don’t get it.

            We have to do something.

            This is something.

            Therefore, we have to do this.

            My logic is airtight and if you disagree you’re clearly a Nazi bigot.

          2. mindyourbusiness

            +1 Yes Minister

      2. DOOMco

        “fuck fire safety! One door to enter and exit! I want to know what is in everyones bags!”

    3. commodious spittoon

      We live in a society in which nobody blinks when a person rents a capacious u-haul, even though they could fill it with fertilizer and explosives and park it just about anywhere. At what point do we admit that renting trucks is a problem?

      1. Ed Wuncler

        But that’s different. U-Hauls aren’t made to kill people. Guns are.

        /sarc

    4. Q Continuum

      Quoting myself from upthread:

      “Let’s just put everyone pre-emptively in prison. That way we can control what everyone does and there will be complete safety. For the children.”

      It’s the only way!

    5. Number.6

      The honest answer is that the US needs to provide better care for, and identification of the mentally ill. This is likely to reduce, but not eliminate the likelihood of this kind of problem occurring. And for those who believe (as I do) that there is a political dimension to this, we need to address the toxic political atmosphere that is largely the responsibility of a press which has long since lost any pretensions to impartiality.

      How we address the latter, without violating the NAP, is beyond me.

      1. Q Continuum

        It’s already been done; use the market to create alternative press outlets. The dinosaur media just hasn’t died out yet, but they are accelerating their own demise by ripping off their mask.

    6. Pope Jimbo

      Every year, I go on a late pheasant hunt around New Town, ND. The best place to stay is at the 4 Bears Casino. Cheap rooms and very nice. Places to eat on premise. I guess you could gamble there too if you are a weirdo.

      Anyhow, lots of other hunters stay there too. The back door into the hotel area has a sign that says something about please put your guns into a case before bringing inside. (ND allows you to drive around with your gun uncased as long as a shell isn’t in the chamber).

      So there are casinos where they have multiple customers coming in with weapons and nothing happens.

  75. KibbledKristen

    Non-Vegas-related: I was telling my young avocado-toast-eating colleague that I prefer to fly out of “National Airport”. He didn’t know what that was.

    *sigh*

    1. DOOMco

      do you have something against avocado toast?
      *hides breakfast*

    2. Q Continuum

      Any reason a Millennial wouldn’t know that airport?

      1. KibbledKristen

        He knows it as “Reagan Airport”

        1. Q Continuum

          Ah, I split the difference and all it Reagan National.

          1. MikeS

            ^ this

          2. R C Dean

            I’ve never heard it called anything else.

            I do recall that, for years after it was renamed, Some People refused to use the R-word. And there may have even been unusual delays in highway signage, etc.

          3. Idlewild for the win.

    3. Suthenboy

      Avocado toast? WTF is that abomination?

      1. RBS

        Faster to just set your wallet on fire.

      2. DOOMco

        well for me, I start by getting my cast iron nice and warm. Throw bread into toaster. take half an avocado and cut it into small pieces. fry egg, sunny side up. spread avocado on toast, put egg on top. add salt and pepper. sometimes hot sauce.

        1. MikeS

          What? No pineapple garnish?

          1. DOOMco

            That goes on my pizza. I can submit all sorts of millennial things here!

        2. Psycho Effer

          It’s time to replace your man card with a hipster card. Those two things don’t go together.

          1. DOOMco

            I think I can eat avocados and pull axels apart while listening to vinyl and wearing flannel sipping an IPA.

          2. Psycho Effer

            This is the world we live in now… I never though it would come to this.

          3. DOOMco

            And now I’m shopping for another gun.

      3. Caput Lupinum

        Millennial shit on a shingle.

        1. Number.6

          ::Golf Clap::

        2. Suthenboy

          Ha! I am stealing that.

          I am betting none of the millennials know what SOS is.

          1. butt-head

            It’s a song by ABBA

  76. Q Continuum

    Is there anything left to even do this? I mean, maybe it’s easier for F2M then back to F, but your body’s gotta be so completely screwed up from all the hormonal alterations that you end up as the ever-popular genderless alien.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/gender-reversal-surgery-rise-arent-talking/

    1. Q Continuum

      Try this if you’re paywalled:

      http://archive.is/5WugQ

      1. Count Potato

        That didn’t work.

        1. Q Continuum

          *sigh*

  77. Q Continuum

    Ummm, Earth to Politico, this has been happening for decades through entryism. The fact that Trump is essentially equivalent to a Democrat from 30 years ago attests to this reality.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/01/could-americas-socialists-become-the-tea-party-of-the-left-215661

    1. Number.6

      It would be gratifying if the Democrats as a party treated the socialists the same way the GOP treated the original Tea Partiers.

      1. The Zenome Project

        I think that one difference is that the Tea Party has a mature foundation; I think that they’ve learned a lot from the gaffe-prone candidates that they originally supported back in 2010 and 2012, while the DSA are mainly just neophyte millennial progs. The backing of mainstream-alternative media outlets like Breitbart also helps them, while the DSA lacks a HuffPo type of outlet to promote them in favor of an incumbent “Corporate Dem.”

        1. Q Continuum

          On the other hand, DSA has got big money supporting it (Soros, et. al.) and the media outlets will come around. NYT is sending up trial balloons about how great Communism is, even the alphabet TV networks are lurching that direction. Tea Party was true grassroots semi-order from chaos. The new Left Socialists are astroturfed and controlled top down with tacit approval from the DNC.

          1. tarran

            Which is why they will fail. Seriously.

        2. Tacit Rainbow

          The DSA has old-school commies running the show. For example, Kurt Stand is on the steering committee of the DSA, as well as a couple of other committees. Back in the 80’s and early 90’s, he was on the national political committee of the DSA.

          Kurt Stand got out of Jail in 2012 and is back in the mix. He is a convicted Stasi spy. The millennials are just the cannon fodder.

  78. DOOMco

    in good news, I 70 is shut down near vail. Winter is coming.

    1. Q Continuum

      BLAMMO!

    2. KibbledKristen

      YAS!

      Great pics out of Loveland, Arapahoe, and Copper this monring!

      1. Tundra

        Still thinking about relocating?

        1. KibbledKristen

          100%…I’m going to get my CSM certification and bone of on some technical stuff, then start looking.

          1. Tundra

            Nice. Always good to add an adventure once in awhile.

            Oh, and you’ll get to see Doom and Q and Westernsloper all the time!

            Oh, wait…

          2. Q Continuum

            Abandon all hope ye who enter here.

          3. DOOMco

            I’m not that bad.

          4. Gustave Lytton

            Don’t play pool for money with DenverJ!

      2. DOOMco

        I think it was 2 winters ago that I was skiing Copper on Halloween.

        1. B.P.

          I usually get in at least one pre-October 25 day at A-basin.

        2. KibbledKristen

          The pics from Loveland & A Basin this morning are fucking amazing. Their snow stakes are completely covered. I bet they open as soon as they can get a skeleton staff in there.

  79. Count Potato

    “Officials deny Vegas shooter was linked to terror groups after ISIS claim responsibility and say gunman ā€˜converted to Islam months ago’”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4941092/ISIS-claim-responsibility-Vegas-shooting.html

    1. Count Potato

      “BREAKING: ISIS Claims Responsibility For Las Vegas Shooting”

      https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/914865141300158465

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        ISIS claiming responsibility needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt at this point.

      2. B.P.

        ISIS must really have a top-notch crash course if someone can go from conversion to the shoot-the-shit-out-of-everyone stage in a matter of months.

    2. Q Continuum

      These hot takes are so retarded. How the fuck can anyone know one way or the other at this moment?

      1. Hyperion

        We basically have nothing right now. But I don’t think it’s a case of ‘he snapped’. The guy had a full arsenal in his room, this was planned.

        1. DOOMco

          His room overlooked a concert venue. maybe that was chance, I doubt it.

          1. Hyperion

            I doubt it too. Whatever his motive was, I think he had one. The guy went there planning to kill people.

        2. Akira

          That’s usually how these things go – with months and months of meticulous planning.

          1. EvilSheldon

            Yup. It’s also absolutely certain that he told someone about his plans. Rampage killers always do.

      2. Count Potato

        But the Daily Mail and Infowars are the best sources of news and information.

        And by “news and information” I mean trashy pics of Bella Thorne and homosexual chemtrails.

    3. Spartan Dad

      Seems a little quick to deny any link. Shouldn’t officials say the investigation is ongoing and possible motives are being explored?

  80. KSuellington

    I just found out that my brother’s girlfriend was at that show with her sister. Luckily they are both fine (although I imagine completely shaken). They were near some bleachers and took cover under them shortly after the firing started. Fuck, what a fucked up individual.

    1. Q Continuum

      Christ. Glad they’re ok.

    2. Number.6

      But it’s great news they’re safe.

    3. DOOMco

      fuck. Glad they are ok and quick thinking. Glad the Riven clan is as well.

      1. KSuellington

        Thanks guys. She is a pretty smart and calm girl and her mom is SFPD so her reaction was the right one.

    4. Akira

      Good to hear they weren’t hit. Still, I hope they’re alright; even just being there when that shit happens can be traumatizing.

    5. trshmnstr

      Glad to hear they’re OK. My wife told me that my sister in law had a ticket to the show, but gave it to a friend at the last minute. The friend was okay, but the girl next to the friend got shot. Needless to say, sister in law is pretty torn up about the whole situation.

      1. KSuellington

        Damn. I can imagine.

  81. Gilmore

    Does anyone care to try and assess how much of this is bullshit?

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/02/us-military-puerto-rico-215668

    1. Q Continuum

      Lights Derpetologist signal.

    2. R C Dean

      On a quick scan, even assuming that their were military assets available to PR that were pulled back, the article lacks some critical context:

      (1) Why were they pulled back? It seems unlikely that they reversed course because somebody wants to see Puerto Ricans suffer. Was it massive incompetence? Was it because there were no functional airports, ports, and distribution systems? Was it some other reason?

      (2) How does this reconcile with the reports of aid piling up at ports of entry, with no local distribution networks (due, perhaps, to a tiff between the local trucker’s union and the governor)?

      (3) In contrasting the speed and volume of aid to Florida and Texas with Puerto Rico, are there other factors in play? Like, say, the presence of large military bases in areas that get more aid faster? The ability to truck (and train) aid to places that aren’t islands?

      1. Gilmore

        its possible they’re treating just a logistical reality as intentional ‘delay’. how can you deliver relief if the roads/ports aren’t even functioning?

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        (1) Why were they pulled back?

        I know the Air Force has a habit of moving planes out of a storm’s path for fear of damage. I imagine other services do the same with mobile assets.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Also, writer may be not be considering the contributions the National Guard made in TX and FL. Being state run, I would imagine both have a larger, better equipped NG that Puerto Rico.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            No specific knowledge of Puerto Rico NG, but the federal oversight from the National Guard Bureau, i can’t imagine that they’re far behind any other state or territory. I do know that the NG there has been activated for aiding policing on the island as well.

  82. The Late P Brooks

    The honest answer is that the US needs to provide better care for, and identification of the mentally ill.

    Unfortunately, what may be obvious after the fact is not at all obvious before.

    I am 100% certain we will be treated to a parade of neighbors and former co-workers declaiming, “I allus knowed thet guy weren’t right!” How many mostly harmless eccentrics are we willing to scoop up in our search for the next Dylan Roof (this guy has a name, but I don’t yet know it)?

    1. Number.6

      I don’t mind the idea of harmless eccentrics being ‘scooped up’ as long as they’re released unharmed with their rights intact.

      I also don’t have a prescription for how we achieve that. But it’s all I got.

      1. Akira

        I think the bigger risk of scooping up mentally ill people would be the government deeming any dissidents to be mentally ill.

        1. DOOMco

          A gay friend of the family was talking about needing to go about gun control that way a year ago or so. I brought up that being gay was thought to be a mental illness not that long ago.

          He said yes, then made some assurance that it’s the future now.

          1. Q Continuum

            “Dude, it’s 2017!”

          2. DOOMco

            He couldn’t even honestly admit “yes, there is a chance that using mental illness could lead to people who are ok to be deemed ill.” he wasn’t getting anywhere near adding that a political or social motivation could come into play.

          3. Psycho Effer

            Having a desire to defend yourself, or to possess a firearm, indicates mental illness, QED.

          4. Suthenboy

            Correct Psycho Effer. The left will use the mental illness angle to confiscate guns. They have already done it. Obama declared SS recipients who ‘lack the mental capacity to manage their own affairs’ unable to purchase firearms.

            If anyone thinks the left wont expand the definition of mental illness infinitely then I have a mental hospital in the Soviet Union to sell them.

    2. Q Continuum

      This is where I am on this. I’m not ready to start reducing constitutional rights for people with particular diagnoses, or odd behavior or prescriptions for psychotropics. I also don’t want to loosen involuntary commitment laws.

      Unpopular as it may be, I still land on:

      “Freedom comes with a price; that price is sometimes evil individuals will abuse that freedom. We cannot throw away that which is most precious to us, our liberty, for the sake of illusory security. If you are concerned about those evil individuals, exercise the freedom you have in a responsible way and arm yourself so that you may defend against those evil people.”

      1. Tundra

        Amen.

        Who wrote that?

        1. Q Continuum

          Me.

          1. Tundra

            *respect*

          2. Q Continuum

            Broken clock, monkeys banging on typewriters, etc.

    3. KibbledKristen

      Guy’s brother was just on the CNN. Pretty much the old “He was a normal guy. Had a coupla guns, but nothing noteworthy.”

      1. Akira

        Oh god, CNN was on in the break room at work… I try to block it out, but I heard the anchor saying, “we’re trying to find out if he was a gun buff and what kind of guns he owned…” They’ve already got their narrative planned out.

        1. Q Continuum

          They have that narrative prewritten at all times; they just have to fill in the names and the number of victims.

      2. KibbledKristen

        Brother says they need to find out who gave/sold him the guns. As if that person is the real criminal here.

        1. Hyperion

          The brother first of all says that they live 2000 miles apart and he never sees the guy, but they talk sometimes, but infrequently. Then he appears to know the guy’s political beliefs, saying he has none, which is a little odd. But then he also claims to know what guns the guy owns and how he uses them. So my question is how does he know all these details about someone he never sees and rarely even speaks with?

          1. KibbledKristen

            Yeah, something’s fishy with this family.

            On the CNN interview, the Fibbies showed up just as they were ending the interview.

          2. butt-head

            Holy shit. The brother is behind it all! It’s a conspiracy!

    4. B.P.

      +1 John David Stutts

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      But you want to know more?

    2. Q Continuum

      I’d like to have a lively debate about contemporary virtue ethics with her.

      1. Count Potato

        I was thinking the exact same thing.

  83. Just Say’n

    https://reason.com/blog/2017/10/02/smith-gets-lecture-on-libertarians

    ENB got kicked off a college campus. Do you think she’ll reassess her milquetoast support of free speech and think twice before smearing others? Nah. She’s going to virtue signal more.

    This article started out OK, but then she asserted “racist fever swamps like LewRockwell.com”. I hate that I have to say this, but I do not read Lew Rockwell (primarily because I find his analysis to be repetitive and unoriginal). But, I doubt that ENB has ever read anything by Lew Rockwell, the Mises Institute, antiwar.com, or anything not cosmotarian. What a garbage person ENB is

    1. Number.6

      So, she’s as bad as Sargon of Akkad then ….

      1. Just Say’n

        I don’t get the reference

        1. Q Continuum

          YouTube personality. Occasionally makes good points but can’t get over the virtue signaling stuff.

        2. Number.6

          Notably harangued at a recent convention by everyone’s favorite feminist, Anita Sarkesian.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Now there’s a garbage person

    2. Q Continuum

      She’s just a lefty who’s found a cool niche to throw moral superiority at a larger cross section of people.

    3. Count Potato

      She’s not a garbage person.

      1. Just Say’n

        Prove it.

        See, this is how assertions work. She claims people to be racist and they have no way of proving her wrong. Now I call her a garbage person, well there is no way to disprove that, so the sentiment stands.

        1. Count Potato

          It’s arguing by definition. Regardless, she has done some excellent investigative journalism, and stood up for important but unpopular positions. She’s also said things that were wrong. Nobody is perfect.

          1. Just Say’n

            Nothing written in Reason is terribly unpopular today in the mainstream. Reason follows the prescribed narrative. There is absolutely nothing brave that is written there anymore.

            Robbie’s article questioning the authenticity of the Rolling Stone rape article was the last unpopular thing that has been written there.

          2. Gilmore

            Robbie’s article questioning the authenticity of the Rolling Stone rape article

            reminder: he didn’t, until Bradley and others had already made points that made it obvious there were problems.

            in his first article, he was not only 100% credulous, he went further than the article, claiming UVA had enabled a ‘a culture of seemingly rampant sexual assault’

            meanwhile, everyone in the comments was calling bullshit on it on Day 1. it took him another week.

          3. Just Say’n

            I stand corrected. Judging from the comments, it would appear that Gilmore was the first to push back on the narrative.

            I thought for sure that Robbie cast doubt on it to begin with, but like all things Robbie, I am disappointed, yet not surprised

          4. invisible finger

            It’s the Ron Paul Newsletters of TOS.

            I’d throw Bailey’s “mandatory health insurance” articles in with them.

          5. Gilmore

            it would appear that Gilmore was the first to push back on the narrative.

            no, i was really just busting Robby’s balls for going overboard on ‘joining with the story’s condemnation’. I busted Robby’s balls all the time anyway.

            there were others there (JWatts, Bill Dalasio, Mad Casual et al) who openly stated that the entire story sounded fabricated. I ended up agreeing with them, but i wasn’t the first to say so.

          6. John Titor

            ENB has spent the last couple months smearing anyone who doesn’t kowtow to her views as ‘alt-right’ or ‘racist’, while showing that the moment she gets any degree of social power she uses it to self-righteously attack people. Regardless of any actual reporting she’s shown herself to have a completely garbage personality.

          7. Suthenboy

            Agreed.

          8. wdalasio

            I have to go with this. She’s shown a stunning lack of character and it looks like her only support for liberty is liberty for things she likes.

    4. R C Dean

      I clicked so you don’t have to. The end of the article is this:

      In any case, it’s odd to lump libertarianism, an ideology centered on natural rights and the inherent worth of the individual, in with more collective-oriented ideologies like those espoused by religious conservatives or the “far right.” We also don’t have much in common with either group when it comes to social and cultural concerns.

      I’m not a habitue of the right-wing fever swamps, but at least she makes a distinction between collectivism on the right and libertarianism. Now, if only she could have pivoted to her left and made the same point . . . .

      Alas, this tendency is all too typical from Democrats and other liberals, who often can’t or won’t imagine a paradigm beyond the left/right divide. Hence libertarians—who defended marriage equality, ending the drug war, and demilitarizing police long before Democrats did—must be right-wing because we also favor deregulation and gun rights.

      Fair enough, I would say.

      Traditionally, libertarianism—like most movements—has included people all over the morality and tolerance scale. It’s an intellectual and political tradition with roots in radical equality movements that also led to racist fever swamps like LewRockwell.com. It’s not a perfect movement, by any means, but its heroes include some of the most outspoken historical critics of traditional bigotry. And its current adherants have been vociferous opponents of alt-right bigotry and populist nationalism more broadly.

      Again, not bad as far as it goes. But, again, the finger of shame only points right. Perhaps other collectivist outgrowths with “libertarian ” pedigrees from other parts of the spectrum could be identified? Why not add ObamaCare as a lineal descendant of a Cato whitepaper? Why not add, for that matter, the fact that the current insanity on campus can be traced back to the corruption of equal rights before the law -> affirmative action/equal outcomes -> hostile work environments -> safe spaces?\

      As an attempt to distance from right wing collectivism, its not bad. The blind spot for left wing collectivism is telling, though, especially as it leaves open the implication that banning right-wing collectivist wrong-think is A-OK. Just don’t include me!

      1. Just Say’n

        I fail to see what collectivism is being advocated by the religious right. ENB’s whole article can be summed up like this: “She’s says that libertarians are just as racist as conservatives as a whole. We aren’t racist like them. But, there are wrong-think libertarians who are totes racist, like Lew Rockwell. I love abortion and marriage equality! Don’t shout me down, please”

        That about sums it up

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          It strikes me as a fear of standing alone as a true individualist. You either have principles or you don’t. If you’re not willing to stand up and tell people that are violating your principles that they’re fundamentally wrong and not just mistaken about you, then you’re not principled.

          1. Number.6

            Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them … well, I have others.

          2. butt-head

            It strikes me as a fear of standing alone as a true individualist.

            Nailed it.

          3. Suthenboy

            Yep.

            It is always surprising to me how so many people are just critters of the herd. They crave being part of the collective to some degree. I dont get it. I have no problem giving the finger to the whole world. I couldn’t give less of a shit who agrees with me or doesnt. I do try to be right and wont hesitate to admit being wrong but I am not ever going to say something just to be accepted.

            Anyone who doesnt like that can go fuck themselves.

            *spits*

          4. butt-head

            I get it. I wish I gave fewer fucks, and I admire those who do, but I have a predilection to want to be liked and to avoid confrontation. That, combined with my congenital contrarianism, means I just stay quiet and outwardly agreeable most of the time. Unfortunately, that leads to bottling some shit up, and it certainly pops off at times.

        2. invisible finger

          I wouldn’t even care about (right-wing) collectivism being ADVOCATED. It’s when it’s being LEGISLATED that I get pissed off about it.

          The problem with ENB and others on the Koch side are that they have a blind spot when it comes to things like accommodation laws. Reason and Cato have been rather incoherent on that – it manifests itself as the silly “You MUST bake cakes for gay weddings but you CANNOT be forced to write pro-gay comments on them” compromise.

      2. Q Continuum

        “Racist fever swamps like LewRockwell.com”

        Citation needed.

        1. invisible finger

          It’s the same citation as always. Octogenarian Rothbard and maybe something Lew wrote in a Ron Paul newsletter once.

          Embarrassing and distasteful, yes. But nowhere near as anti-libertarian as the typical Dalmia or Bailey screed.

          1. John Titor

            Not to mention nowhere near as bigoted as Dalmia.

      3. commodious spittoon

        Here’s the thing: I can ally with people, even those with a bigoted points of view, so long as they’re in favor of the uniform application of rule of law and scaling back the role and demesne of government. I can’t do that with people who profess absolute tolerance and are willing to curtail my rights in order to bring about utopia. Would I prefer political allies with total unanimity where race, etc. is concerned? Well, sure. It’s just that the people who believe they have a lock on that mindset are also fucking Communists.

        And also closet racists toward whites.

        1. Just Say’n

          I’d rather not associate with racists, as that is a collectivist ideology. But, the label ‘racist’ has been used so liberally that it really doesn’t even mean anything anymore. I fail to see how LewRockwell.com is a fever swamp of racism, other than the fact that the Kochs so deem it

        2. Q Continuum

          I continue to maintain that even among self-professed “alt-right”, the racist element is pretty small. I have no hard numbers to back that up, so take it with a grain of salt. However, I believe calling the alt-right racist Nazis is just the same old smear playbook of the Left; they are threatened by the alt-right because they are using the Left’s kulturkampf tactics against them and so they must be destroyed.

          1. Number.6

            After a while, when being called a “racist” lost it’s sting, the left had to out-Hitler Hitler.

            And so they picked up on the Alt-Right, because fortuitously, a very small number of the self-professed ‘Alt Right’ actually talked like Hitler.

          2. Suthenboy

            Want to know who else talks like Hitler? Everyone on the left.

            Remember during the G20 riots someone trolled the rioters by reading Hitler speeches and the rioters went mad cheering? They have tried so hard to distance themselves from him that they forgot what he really was: one of them.

  84. CPRM

    Luckily none of my friends in Vegas are country music fans, so I wasn’t too worried. But I checked on them on facebook and they are safe. One of them was in lockdown all night because he works at Mandalay Bay though.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Good to hear

    2. B.P.

      Good to hear of your friends’ safety. I was on the computer last night at 10:30 pm making plane/hotel reservations for a wedding I’m headed to on Friday. The reception is at…. Mandalay Bay. I read some tripadvisor reviews, which steered me toward the Bellagio.

      1. Q Continuum

        Every time I see “Bellagio” I read it as “Fellatio”.

        1. Number.6

          Well, that’d improve the rating on tripadvisor then.

          Must admit, the trip I made to Vegas was interesting, but not something I’d want to do regularly. Not my kind of place. We stayed at the Bellagio, did all the touristy-stuff you’re expected to do on- and off- the strip, blew $10 on the machines, and that was it.

          Got into trouble at the airport allowing my daughter to watch me pulling the handle on one of the machines they have there. Spent most of the flight back smdh’ing.

      2. Number.6

        My guess is that the tripadvisor reviews are even worse now.

        1. B.P.

          Coming soon to a high-rise hotel near you: Policies that don’t allow you to select the location/view of your room.

          1. B.P.

            This really should’ve been a new comment down below, but I’m stupid at the Internet.

          2. DOOMco

            Well now Jason Bourne’s never gonna figure out who he is.

      3. Tundra

        Haven’t stayed at Bellagio for quite awhile. Last time we were there we stayed at the Delano. I liked it a lot.

  85. Raston Bot

    my bow hunting friends on derpbook are enjoying a healthy laugh over this…

    https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2017/09/27/disney-releases-promotional-photo-of-hawkeye-holding-a-bow-like-an-idiot

    “Today, set your sights on another sensational Super Hero – Hawkeye,” says the blog. The only problem is that Hawkeye, “the world’s most talented archer and marksman,” is holding a bow like a damn fool.

    1. Suthenboy

      Whoa. What the hell is that?

  86. The Late P Brooks

    And its current adherants have been vociferous opponents of alt-right bigotry and populist nationalism more broadly.

    Those “current adherents” being she (ENB) and E Soave, presumably; liberaltarians.

    1. Just Say’n

      Cosmotarians. They care not for smaller government or individual rights. Their ideology is centered around ‘free trade’ and ‘open immigration’ and that is it. A rather shitty ideology.

    2. Suthenboy

      I wish someone would point to some of this rampant alt-right bigotry that seems to be e everywhere yet nowhere all at once. And no, I dont mean send me photos of Brad Pitt with a secret Nazi haircut like ENB did. I am old enough to remember actual KKK marches. I know what rampant racism looks like and I am just not seeing it on the right today. The left, now thats a different story.

  87. Q Continuum

    Just about sums it up:

    “Activist groups were vocal critics of slaps on the wrists for players abusing their wives or girlfriends. But left-wing activist groups don’t stop, ever. Even when something is (eventually) made right and harsher penalties were handed out. Because they can fundraise off of it and, equally as important to them, they hate professional sports. Activist liberals always have hated sports, even when they use it. They hate competition – championing ending scorekeeping in youth sports – because there are winners and losers, and they hate meritocracy.”

    https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2017/09/28/the-slow-death-of-the-nfl-n2387297

    1. Suthenboy

      They also hate anything that teaches core American values.

  88. The Late P Brooks

    This bullshit with ENB’s frantic social signalling about how she’s one of the good ones has put the image of Liza Doolittle yowling, “I’m a good girl, I am!” in my head.

  89. commodious spittoon

    Attorney for CBS happily thrusts her neck onto the chopping block.

    ā€œIf they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing,ā€ Geftman-Gold wrote on Facebook. ā€œI’m actually not even sympathetic bc country fans often are Republican gun toters.ā€

    I’m hesitant to call it analogous to saying “they deserved it,” but regardless, it’s loathsome and moronic.

    1. Tundra

      Wow.

      Oh, well. The world needs ditch diggers, too.

    2. DOOMco

      saying ā€œthey deserved it,ā€

      it’s close, but you’re right.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      You know who else deserved it?

      1. Tundra

        #22 in Q’s links?

        1. Q Continuum

          *Scrolls up, re-looks at #22*

          Yes. Yes, she does.

      2. Q Continuum

        That girl wearing the short skirt?

        1. Tundra

          Or guy. Let’s not discriminate.

    4. Q Continuum

      …and nothing else happened.

    5. wdalasio

      My girlfriend used to do PR for CBS News. I’m guessing she’s glad she doesn’t have that gig right now.

    6. This bitch just said that people who listen to country music probably don’t share her political views and so deserve to be shot to death, but gun owners are the bad guys. Right. I hope she gets cancer.

    7. Also, this is how you get Trump. I would vote for zombie Hitler if I thought it would drive people like this to suicidal despair.

    8. butt-head

      This article is mendaciously written. The stuff she said is bad on its own. Red State doesn’t need to lie to get people fired up.

      Jesus. Fake news e’rywhere.

      1. Number.6

        More evidence that the market works. Sometimes.

    9. Suthenboy

      I am not much on cryptic language. ‘They deserved it’ is exactly what she said. No point in pretending she didn’t.

      1. butt-head

        It’s not, though. What she said was pretty repugnant on its own, no need to fabricate its meaning.

  90. The Late P Brooks

    His room overlooked a concert venue. maybe that was chance, I doubt it.

    I cannot comment until I know who was playing.

    1. Vhyrus

      Jason aldean

  91. KibbledKristen

    It’s time to change the channel when the CNN screen looks like this.

    1. Raston Bot

      they look like they’re ready to scold the fuck out of viewers everywhere. /click

  92. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Hmmmm…. interesting proposition

    As the staggering national student loan debt tally sits at an all-time high of $1.33 trillion, according to the Department of Education, many Millennials say they would go to extreme lengths to wipe their slate clean.

    According to a new survey from Credible, a personal finance website, 50% of all respondents (ages 18-34) said they would give up their right to vote during the next two presidential elections in order to never have to make another loan payment again.

    1. Number.6

      So, we know what they are, AND we know their price.

      1. tarran

        Not really. Votes are utterly worthless, while a student loan payment is worth a great deal.

        If you owed more than 1 cent on your student loans, you’d be an idiot not to take the deal.

        1. thom

          But the votes of millions of millenials with college debt as a group is priceless. I say we do it. Get those voters and their issues out of politics for eight years and focus on policy changes that would generate in excess of $1.4T in economic activity.

        2. Microaggressor

          I’m more interested in those morons who wouldn’t take the deal. How many of them do you think are Bern Victims? Remember how many of them donated the rest of their student loan money thinking it would pay off when they get a whole bunch of free shit?

    2. Q Continuum

      I like it!

    3. invisible finger

      Presidential vote doesn’t mean much anyway. Give up 8 years of state and local election voting rights and I’d consider.

    4. DOOMco

      I would also vote for them to do that.
      I paid my way out.

    5. Number.6

      The bigger concern to me is fixing the situation that encourages new students to go into debt first, just like immigration.

      No amnesty until there’s a program in place that stops future amnesties being required.

      1. butt-head

        Address the causes, not the effects? Madness

    6. Number.6

      And the fun part being that the pay-down will be funded out of the national debt anyway, so that ‘forgiveness’ just becomes a debt that they won’t be able to repay as taxpayers.

      Me? I’d love to be offered a get-out-of-tax deal where I pay off my family’s share of the national debt, free and clear, and then get on a new “revenue-neutral” tax program. But that ain’t gonna happen.

      1. Q Continuum

        I’d forfeit my right to vote permanently to avoid income tax for the rest of my life.

        1. Number.6

          Can’t do that. I’m an Alien (no, not *that* kind). And I’m staying that way so I’m exempt from FATCA’s punishment of citizens,

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Little known fact, Number 6 is actually a Xenomorph. The latest generations do their best to fit in.

          2. Number.6

            I’m not really an oppressed minority, but at least I’m higher up in the victimhood hierarchy than you white cis-guys.

    7. Psycho Effer

      Now THIS is worthy of a GoFundMe campaign.

    8. mexican sharpshooter

      This assumes they were going to vote in the first place, and odds are they won’t.

    9. John Titor

      Only 46% of Millennials vote anyway, their turnout is the lowest among all age groups.

  93. The Late P Brooks

    Jason aldean

    I know nothing of this person. Had it been Hank III, the performers on stage would likely have returned fire.

    1. invisible finger

      Hank III’s “Country Heroes” is a great song. Even for those who hate country music.

    2. Brett L

      I originally suspected Hank III as the shooter.

  94. Vhyrus

    So today really is a shit day. I just got word from Holger on discord that his wife passed suddenly last night. Sepsis caused by blood clot in small intestine. He’s gonna be offline for a few days.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s horrible. Send him my sympathies.

    2. tarran

      Awful.

    3. DOOMco

      oh fuck.
      Holger, we are with you. I’m so sorry.

    4. wdalasio

      Oh, geez! My sympathies to him.

    5. Number.6

      Ugh. There are only so many ways to express condolences on a day like this, but condolences to Holger and everyone he holds dear at this difficult time.

    6. Q Continuum

      Shit. Condolences.

    7. Tundra

      Awful. Please let him know I am really sorry.

    8. commodious spittoon

      Christ. So sorry to hear this, Holger.

    9. KibbledKristen

      Wow. Heartfelt condolences to Holger.

    10. mexican sharpshooter

      Condolences. Damn.

    11. Ken Shultz

      So sorry to hear that.

      Condolences.

    12. Sean

      Condolences.

    13. John Titor

      Fucking terrible. Sudden deaths are horrible. My sympathies.

    14. RegicidalManiac

      That’s awful. He has my condolences.

      1. EvilSheldon

        Damn, I’m sorry to hear that. My condolences.

    15. Brett L

      Gosh. Horrible.

    16. Hyperion

      Absolutely awful. I’m so sorry to hear this. Word are pretty much meaningless at times like this, but my sincere condolences to Holger.

    17. DesigNate

      That is freaking horrible. Just awful.
      Condolences to Holger.

      1. Waterfall Insurance

        Condolences

    18. Just Say’n

      Sorry to hear that.

    19. MikeS

      Oh wow. That’s terrible. Let him know we are all thinking of him.

    20. Gustave Lytton

      My thoughts and condolences to Holger.

    21. DEG

      Please pass on my condolences. Thanks!

    22. Count Potato

      Sorry.

    23. Condolences, Holger. God dammit.

  95. DOOMco

    So what other groups take blood other than the red cross? I imagine the need for blood just went up.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The IRS

      1. Q Continuum

        That’s flesh, not blood.

        1. Number.6

          Usually more than a pound though.

    2. Vhyrus

      The DNC usually likes their blood donations soaked into shirts that they can wave over a body of warm corpses.

    3. DOOMco

      ok ok, to donate, dickheads.

      1. Hyperion

        If we catch you donating dickheads, mister, we’re going to be inquiring into just where and from whom you acquired those.

        1. DOOMco

          I’m not that morgue worker!

        2. Number.6

          Probably of GM source (NSFW unless you consider SF’s stuff is SFW)

          So much for the ‘Family Friendly’ credentials.

    4. Microaggressor

      Mark Zuckerberg?

  96. Vhyrus

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/02/after-las-vegas-democrats-are-jumping-straight-into-the-gun-control-debate/

    “After Vegas, democrats are jumping straight into gun control debate.”

    After Vegas? AFTER VEGAS?! We don’t even have a final body count and these fucking vultures are already rubbing themselves raw over it. Fuck these vermin.

    1. DOOMco

      After, during, before. what’s the difference?

    2. Drake

      Just start the music again and let them dance in the blood.

      People are pointing out how similar this is to the staged shooting at the beginning of Enemies Foreign And Domestic.

    3. Mr Lizard

      It’s called staying on offense which Team Red seems completely inadequate for

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      Sounds like they are just following the protocol.

      1. John Titor

        This. It’s expected behaviour. If you believe gun control is a solution the obvious result is that before the bodies are even cold you stand on top of them and smugly go “see, if you people would just listen to me!!!!”

    5. Raston Bot

      But Democrats don’t really have a choice but to go hard after gun laws in the wake of a headline-grabbing shooting. They are fresh off an election year during which gun control took center stage in many of their campaigns. Hillary Clinton made it a piece of her platform in a way no modern Democratic presidential candidate has.

      and lose. and lose again. and lose some more.

      at what point do Dems realize gun control is a losing issue?

      In Congress, victory will almost certainly be measured by how long it takes to hold off defeat on silencer and concealed-carry legislation.

      “hold off defeat”

      gotta say i like her optimism.

      1. Hyperion

        “at what point do Dems realize gun control is a losing issue?”

        I’m going with never.

    6. John Titor

      I wonder how antifa and the like are going to factor in to the perceptions of gun control in the near future. There’s plenty of less media-savvy people who know next to nothing about them, but having violent rioters attack people and police do nothing is sure to at least drive some people into the realization that they don’t want to lose their self-defense if they can be openly attacked without it.

      1. Vhyrus

        No you see antifa was just defending themselves and other oppressed allies against the evil hordes of shitlord nazis and their hate speech. Punching a guy for wearing a piece of cloth is totally self defense

      2. Hyperion

        I remember something like this from way back. The lefties were saying that they don’t need any icky guns right now, but when the right wing extremists eventually decide to start the civil war, because racism, the government will have special stashes of weapons hidden where only good liberals will know where to find them. I couldn’t even make that up, it’s so dumb.

        1. Number.6

          You mean like (((leprechaun))) gold caches?

        2. Vhyrus

          We need to keep this rumor alive. It will make the coming purges so much simpler.

          1. John Titor

            I’m not seeing helicopter ownership anywhere in the Constitution…

  97. KibbledKristen

    What does one do with a single Carolina Reaper pepper? Should I dry it and put it in with my dried Habaneros?

    1. Number.6

      Dry it out and make a pendant out of it like this.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I just threw up a little in my mouth.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Given the size of the pendant, she must had an issue with it getting caught in her zipper.

    2. Vhyrus

      A single Carolina reaper is like a single block of c4. You can do a lot with it.

      1. Number.6

        There’s a lot of ruin in a Carolina Reaper.

    3. Q Continuum

      Eat it raw and pray.

      1. KibbledKristen

        I think my price on eating it raw would be about $5 million

    4. Nephilium

      If you like spicy food, that one pepper will be more then enough to heat up an entire pot of something. Treat it carefully, and either wear gloves or wash your hands very well after touching it.

    5. Gilmore

      What does one do with a single Carolina Reaper pepper? S

      practical jokes.

      *grind into fine powder, and apply to friend’s lipstick / sprinkle on their sandwich when they’re distracted

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        …pretty sure that’s a crime.

        1. Gilmore

          what a little crime between friends!? provided they don’t have a heart-condition.

    6. Sean

      I add 1/2 chopped up Reaper to a jar of marina sauce and simmer for 30 minutes for a spicy sauce. For me, a whole pepper in the sauce might be too much.

      I’ll usually cook up 1 lb of ground meat and veggies first then add sauce and the pepper for an easy 1 skillet type meal.

    7. Ken Shultz

      When I worked in a restaurant, back in the day, we had a chef, and when the waitresses and me and the wine people, et. al. would be gathered in the kitchen so he couldn’t hear well or were just getting in his way, he’d take a dried pepper like that and stick the tail end of it in the gas fire on the stove.

      It had an almost immediate effect on . . . white bread Caucasians, like myself, that was similar to what I imagine it would be like to take pepper spray in the face. .Eyes burning and itching like worse than chopping onions. It would clear the kitchen immediately.

      I’d use it for that–clearing the kitchen when the girlfriend unit’s sister is there, etc.

      Also, if you dry it and put it in olive oil, it’ll infuse the olive oil with its spiciness and make that flavor more palatable for use in anything that uses olive oil.

      It’s hard to use just a little bid of a really hot pepper. Anybody that gets the kernel will feel it and have a hard time tomorrow. Put it in oil, and not only can you dodge those concentrated pieces but you can evenly disperse the hotness in a dish, as well.

      . . . or accidentally give it to your girlfriend’s sister instead of salad dressing.

      1. Gilmore

        Put it in oil

        yeah, from a practical matter i think this is the right call. Make an infusion of Reaper, and apply dabs of it when needed.

        *it does not rule out also doing practical jokes.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          apply dabs of it when needed.

          Screams out for proper practical jokes.

          /burning underwear

          1. Gilmore

            One of my most horrifyingly successful practical jokes was taking my little brother’s underwear, and smearing ben-gay / Icy-hot in like 4 or 5 pairs.

            the next day i heard shrieking coming from his room. he responded to the initial burning sensation by grabbing and rubbing his balls, which only spread the stuff around. I didn’t even confess for the first few minutes because i felt so bad. It was far more effective than i could have imagined.

          2. Tundra

            And yet you are still alive.

          3. Bobarian LMD

            This is what little brothers are for.

            Somebody put Tiger Balm in one of my fellow wrestler’s jocks…

            Medical attention was required.

            Nobody ever fessed up.

          4. MikeS

            When I was in HS basketball, there was an Icy-Hot in the jock incident. They managed to do it so close to game time that the victim was out on the floor for pre-game warmups before it really hit him.

          5. mexican sharpshooter

            That is a terrible thing to do. He should have murdered you in your sleep after that.

          6. Gilmore

            I did it in response to something. what, i can’t remember, but it must have been bad.

            if you did not grow up with brothers, it may be difficult to understand

  98. Ken Shultz

    It’s hard not to get political about a tragedy when politicians are getting so political about it.

    I’m not saying this tragedy is why would should or shouldn’t do anything, but I am saying that what Hillary Clinton said about this tragedy is an excellent reason why it’s a good thing that she’s not the President of the United States.

    Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again.
    7:04 AM – 2 Oct 2017

    https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/914853632083877888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Freason.com%2Fblog

    That’s typical clintonesque double-talk. “We can and must put politics aside”–and get politically involved–all in the same sentence.

    She makes Obama look like an amateur on double-talk and never letting a crisis “go to waste”.

    Whatever we do or don’t do about gun rights, I’m glad Hillary Clinton isn’t out President. She’s unfit to lead a troop of girl scouts.

    1. Number.6

      She’s give them fancy necklaces and send them out over a minefield if it would help her get power.

      1. Ken Shultz

        Think about what it means to tell people that their “grief isn’t enough”.

        I wouldn’t care if she were for or against the Second Amendment–that’s a nasty thing to say to people regardless.

        1. Tundra

          Fuck her.

          This guy died shielding his wife.

          But I’m sure her grief isn’t sufficient.

          1. Ken Shultz

            It’s so offensive.

        2. Q Continuum

          “Your loved ones’ deaths are irrelevant unless we can do something that benefits my party politically”

          1. Hyperion

            Well, I mean, they do have the fact that the United States is the only country on earth where people get shot with guns, on their side. You really can’t argue with:

            USA – only country where you can buy guns from vending machines for pocket change = Only country where anyone is ever shot with a gun.

            Defend that, Trumpet!

          2. Ken Shultz

            Meanwhile Trumps’s tweets, far as I know, have been nothing but respectful.

            If the choice were between The Donald and some other more capitalist candidate, . . .

            But every time I see Trump and Hillary side by side, she comes across as the insensitive dolt.

            Deplorables!

          3. Hyperion

            Are you saying it wouldn’t be better if he faked some tears and then jumped on top the pile of still warm bodies to make political points?

          4. butt-head

            “Why don’t the newscasters cry when they read about people who die? Least they could be decent enough to put a tear in their eye.”

          5. Number.6

            Robotic whores have been around a lot longer than we realize.

    2. butt-head

      For the benefit of the children, we must stop making emotional appeals.

    3. Hillary, you mendacious cunt, the NRA didn’t kill those people. And when I say “mendacious”, I refer specifically to your implication that the victims of that lunatic died because of the fact that Americans have the right to own firearms enshrined in the Bill of Rights, and that the NRA’s role as a PAC has some sort of causal relationship.

  99. DOOMco

    Jagr has a job!

    1. Hyperion

      But the question is, who is Jagr?

      1. Vhyrus

        Slow down, I haven’t even figured out who John Galt is yet.

        1. Hyperion

          He’s some libertarian figment of that far right extremist, Ayn Rand’s, imagination.

          1. Q Continuum

            +50 pages of speechifying

      2. Ken Shultz

        There’s only one Jagr.

        And he practically owns the copyright to his haircut.

        Jagr is the Nolan Ryan of hockey.

          1. Tundra

            Motherfucker helped dagger my North Stars in 1991.

            And he’s only five years younger than me, playing in the NHL, banging models and loving life.

            Prick.

          2. DOOMco

            He was drafted before I was born.

          3. The Zenome Project

            Same here, kind of scary. Jagr has stated that he’s going to try to play professional hockey in his 50s. If anyone can do it, it’s him.

          4. Number.6

            +1 “Old Man Strength”

          5. Q Continuum

            He has a pretty impressive line up of former bedpost notches.

      3. Bobarian LMD

        He’s one of the good guys in the big robot suits in Pacific Rim?

    2. KibbledKristen

      He was the guy that would come to DC and inspire such hate in the stands at US Air Arena, yes? I think I saw him play once or twice in the 90’s, after the Caps had moved downtown.

  100. Q Continuum

    Vegas shooter’s father was a notorious bank robber.

    1. Hyperion

      I saw that, he was on the FBI’s most wanted list. Seems to have nothing to do with this, but a weird factoid none the less.

      1. Tundra

        Stop it, Hyp. Today has been shitty enough without you dissing one of the best hockey players of ll time.

        1. Tundra

          And this.

          So, so well played, Jaromir!

        2. Hyperion

          I don’t know nothing about Canadian sportsball, except they beat each other over the head with some sort of stick until one of them falls down on some ice.

          1. Tundra

            Yes, it is beautiful.

            Unlike my Gilmore-ing.

          2. Tundra

            Love it.

          3. John Titor

            No, you drop your stick and gloves, THEN beat the shit out of them.

    2. Vhyrus

      Genetics wins again?

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Who can keep track of those Canadian teams?

  101. Vhyrus

    I’m about to land in Tampa and the pilot is dropping altitude so fast you’d think we were evading anti aircraft fire. I haven’t popped my ears this many times in a minute before.

    1. LJW

      What is it with pilots in Florida? I had a flight from Orlando to Miami a few years back plane took off like a rocket and dove into Miami. Passengers were screaming. Maybe being in the air too long above Florida turns you into a Florida Man?

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Some airports regulate ‘sound abatement’ so that pilots have to drop like a stone.

        John Wayne used to be terrifying if you had to come in from the landward side. Been many years since I’ve flown there though.

        1. Dr Mossy Lawn

          Airlines like the continuous descent as it saves them fuel… power off from altitude, glide to the airport.

          Now if he was on SWA5054, that did 2500fpm for a couple of times, and was following the FOOXX FOUR arrival landing north.

      2. commodious spittoon

        It’s the meth vapors rising.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      She’s talking about letting her son bang his girlfriend at home.

      When the parents of the girlfriend eventually find out about it, what kind of litigation does she open herself up to? She mentions 13-14 year olds in the article.

      I’d have probably lost my mind, were it my daughter.

      1. Q Continuum

        She seems rather glib (drink!) about the whole thing. “Well we know that promotion of abstinence is a waste of time and he’s gonna do it anyway and who is he gonna talk to when his little slut needs an abortion so I might as well just look the other way!” Great parenting lady.

        1. Q Continuum

          Bonus: Is there a father in the house?

        2. Urthona

          Nobody seems to want to point out that the teen pregnancy rate is plummeting at the same rate as the teen having sex rate.

          I think we’re confusing government programs on abstinence (which like most government programs are a waste of time) with actually having children that have values, hopes, and dreams.

          1. John Titor

            Well, the overwhelming availability of pornography probably has something to do with it.

          2. Urthona

            That’s a new theory. I will have to ponder this.

          3. butt-head

            When I was in high school, I found a book in the library that claimed that pornography was actually a good thing because it facilitated men who might rape to get off more frequently, thus lessening their drive to go out and rape. I don’t really buy the argument now, but it was profound to me at the time, since it was so far from what I’d ever consider. So I relayed the claim to my friends in the vicinity of my other classmates, and I remember a girl having the most repulsed look in reaction. I jumped to supplement, “Yeah, it’s total bullshit. I don’t buy it. I just read it, heh heh.”

            And then I became a libertarian.

            tl;dr: rape; became libertarian.

          4. Bobarian LMD

            Pondering pornography?

            That’s never happened around here before.

    2. Number.6

      Providing a venue for statutory rape? Doesn’t sound so different to hosting a keg party for your high school kid.

      Certainly opens the door for a visit by the CPS, if not (as Bobarian says below) for a coupla hard, pipe-hittin’ parents.

      Discretion on the issue, if she wanted to facilitate a liaison, would have been to not brag about it.

    3. We should have alcohol education in schools predicated on the fact that the kids are going to drink anyway, so teach them to drink safely.

      1. SDF-7

        Maybe not in school, but I do think the forbidden fruit aspect helps the irresponsible binge drinking issue in college. Lower the drinking age back to something reasonable (if you can get shot at for your country, you’re old enough to do what you want with your body) and encourage parents to let teens have a beer with dinner or something so it isn’t so exotic.

    4. NOT a Naked Intruder

      BTW, that’s by Jody “My Sons Are Probably Future Rapists” Allard.

  102. Q Continuum

    C’mon kids, we’ve gotta hit 1000 comments here.

    1. Tundra

      No problem.

      Have a great song.

    2. Number.6

      The Glibertarian’s equivalent of the St. Crispin’s Day speech.

      This day shall stand in infamy, sorrow and also joy for as long as this site shall stand.

      1. MikeS

        This day really has had it all

        1. Psycho Effer

          We haven’t talked about the Single Tax yet…

          1. Q Continuum

            Or the fact that deep dish IS pizza.

            *runs*

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            What the hell is wrong with you, man!?

          3. MikeS

            *Throws handful of a disgusting mixture of chunky peanut butter and pineapples at a retreating Q

          4. butt-head

            I agree. It’s delicious, too.

          5. butt-head

            Now, is it pizza only when it comes out of the oven? Might as well get some abortion debatin’ here too.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lOG3rD5CrQ

          6. MikeS

            Could I interest anyone in a helping of some Rand Paul and the ACA?

          7. Q Continuum

            So, one deep dish with chunky peanut butter, pineapple, aborted fetus and extra foreskin to go!

    3. MikeS

      Here’s cool tune with a fun mash-up video.

      *Includes bonus Morticia Adamms eye candy

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      Noticed that close to 1K. I’ll add a comment.

      Stay off my lawn!

    5. mexican sharpshooter

      C’mon kids, we’ve gotta hit 1000 comments here.

      Looks like you got your wish.

    1. Q Continuum

      Also, Jade Randle (made up name?); HFS would, would, would.

    1. Tundra

      God fucking dammit.

    2. Q Continuum

      Wow. The hits keep comin.

    3. butt-head

      I scrolled down and only just noticed that Harry Dean Stanton died. Had no idea he was that old. Still a bummer. Maybe I’ll rewatch Paris, Texas soon.

      1. Raston Bot

        I fondly remember him from Kelly’s Heroes and Alien. He was a mainstay in the films from my youth.

        1. Mad Scientist

          Repo Man!

      2. I never mentioned that in any of the links threads?

        (I have a movie blog, so one of my first stops every time I fire up the desktop is Wikipedia’s recent deaths page. They call me the Cryptkeeper elsewhere.)

        1. MikeS

          Yes you did. Well, someone did, couldn’t swear it was you.

        2. butt-head

          I haven’t read every comment here. I had no doubt that his death was already discussed. I only just found out about it, though. :/

    4. MikeS

      Is this National Kick In the Nuts Day?

      1. Tundra

        Must be. I look like Randy Marsh.

    5. mexican sharpshooter

      They didn’t confirm he was dead yet, so can we make a wise crack about Lou Reed?

      1. Q Continuum

        Call the Cleveland Browns to let him down one more time.

      2. Brett L

        Hard to tell on looks alone, much less brain wave activity.

    6. Just Say’n

      I’m going to say what everyone is thinking: the best thing that Tom Petty did was when he played Luanne’s husband, Lucky, in King of the Hill. It’s true

    7. KibbledKristen

      They’re taking him off life support

      1. SDF-7

        Crap. Anyone else have a newborn in the family to balance out these hits to the gut?

  103. Q Continuum

    Is this peak Canada? I think this is peak Canada.

    http://archive.is/LYqmi

    1. MikeS

      I’ve heard of this happening with Green Bay Packer tickets.

  104. KibbledKristen

    So I merely touched the outside of the Carolina Reaper, then touch my mouth, and my lips are fucking burning. Yowzah.

    1. Number.6

      Can I interest you in a proposal?

      Your name was given to me by a mutual friend who explained you are a very honest and reliable person.

      I am the son of a prominent Nigerian government official and I have information about a TEN MILLION DOLLAR deposit held in bank funds that I am unfortunately incapable of claiming myself …

      1. KibbledKristen

        Me + Nigerian scammers = fun times. Wish I had time to mess with them still.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Same guy who made the Reaper, made Pepper X

    2. Good Mythical Morning had a Carolina Reaper challenge.

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Since then, he’s gotten the hang of dressing up, but in his down-to-earth demeanor, he still doesn’t like to wear ties, a sentiment I and probably a lot of Americans, fully identify with.

      Again with the ties, this guy needs to find a new catch to fans. Fuck you, you’re a politician. Wear a tie.

      1. Psycho Effer

        Dislike of ties is the only thing I have in common with Hickenlooper. Wouldn’t vote for him for dog-catcher of the county next door.

        1. I wear bowties. Everyone in the family seemed impressed by the one I wore to my niece’s wedding, even though it was part of a cheap 3/$9 box set.

      2. Number.6

        Fuck him,

        He works for the people. If they want him dressed up in a gimp suit, scuba flippers, a beanie and a ball gag, that’s what they should have.

        If he doesn’t like it, Denver surely has trash bins to empty or streets to be swept.

        1. Psycho Effer

          All politicians should wear ball-gags. We need a referendum!

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Do you have a newsletter for which one could subscribe?

          2. butt-head

            That’ll just sexualize them and endear people to them further. šŸ™

            The only time I’ve ever found a politician sexy is this photo of Nixon. Most “good-looking” politicians have that Ivy League prep douche look, like the young Joe Biden or Justin Trudeau. Not a fan. And most are just ugly.

    2. The Zenome Project

      Hickenlooper is basically what happens if Kasich became honest with himself and joined the correct party (D!), so no.

      1. Q Continuum

        I will never forgive Lickapooper for not vetoing the retarded mag capacity ban. He lost any claim to “moderate pragmatist” after that fiasco.

        1. RegicidalManiac

          My feelings exactly.

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          Yup.

    3. RegicidalManiac

      Hickenlooper is a POS who used tragedy to infringe on my rights and the rights of every Coloradan, and I would rather vote for Trump any day of the week.

    4. Number.6

      That shitstain sponsored a bunch of gun restrictions and then tried to excuse his own ignorance and backpedal on the issue afterwards.

      Yes, America needs an ignorant ill informed president that promulgates laws that he doesn’t understand, and then gets all teary and apologetic when things go pear-shaped.

      Fuck him. Fuck him with a Carolina Reaper-smeared trebuchet arm.

    5. Raston Bot

      Fortunately, there’s a bevy of highly qualified Democrats who may run, like our own Gov. John Hickenlooper and Sens. Kamala Harris and Al Franken.

      lol

      1. butt-head

        god help us

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Why do the Democrats want Trump to get another term?

          1. butt-head

            Good for ratings?

  105. Q Continuum

    KK, where are you looking at moving in CO?

    1. KibbledKristen

      Don’t care, but I probably wouldn’t like it very much east of Denver.

      1. Q Continuum

        I’d check out Grand Junction. They don’t have as many jobs, but it’s much cheaper and easier access (no traffic) to mountain fun time.

        1. KibbledKristen

          Nice! I”ll look at that!

          Wish Silverthorne or Frisco were big tech cities LOL

          1. DOOMco

            me too. so bad.

          2. KibbledKristen

            A Basin is reporting most of Summit County is without power because of the snow. *sigh*

    1. B.P.

      Awesome.

      1. DOOMco

        glad someone also digs it.

  106. DOOMco

    more rap songs. just seeing if we can push to 1k. Probably of of the better DOOM songs not on Madvilliany.

  107. Tom Petty dead after heart attack. He was 66.

    1. Screen never refreshed but there’s a link above.

    2. Number.6

      Ugh. What an awful day.

        1. DOOMco

          something something still give the succ.

    3. Just Say’n

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcLbHUBoDpI

      In honor of Tom Petty’s best role

    4. butt-head

      Too fucking young.

    5. invisible finger

      He’ll be a buried treasure.

    1. Psycho Effer

      5%. They are still European pussies who yearn to be ruled.

    1. RegicidalManiac

      I mean, they wouldn’t, would they.

    2. If dude turns out to have been a recent convert to Islam, this whole thing takes on a totally different aspect.

      1. B.P.

        Screening/profiling gets sort of hard if white guys living in retirement communities are going jihadi.

  108. commodious spittoon

    Well, that didn’t take long: CBS parts company with that shitheel attorney.

    1. Sean

      Much faster than I expected.

  109. DOOMco

    reports of an active shooter at USC. police locked the place down, no shooter found.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Daily Trojanā€Verified account @dailytrojan 12m12 minutes ago
      Replying to @dailytrojan @USCDPS

      LAPD confirmed a call came out 12:17 p.m. of a possible active shooter, but there is currently no evidence of shooting and no victims reported.
      2 replies 143 retweets 58 likes

      1. Q Continuum

        Well… still ban guns cause we just should.

      2. DOOMco

        Yeah, wonder who called it in?

    2. Suthenboy

      No surprise. The left is convinced that we live in a war zone. They want it to be true soooooo badly.

    1. SDF-7

      Sigh… that sort of thing really can make you lose faith in humanity.

      1. butt-head

        I still view them as bizarre aberrations (hence the newsworthiness). If I could see this being a commonplace teacher or human being, I’d be more pessimistic.

  110. Hyperion

    Well, there’s 1000 now.

    1. Q Continuum

      Yeehaw! In your face!

  111. Gerry Rigg

    One thousand, b’gorry! Is this a new record?

  112. KibbledKristen

    So we have a Monty Python sitcheeation with Tom Petty. Some sources are saying he’s not dead yet, though he’s off life support on a DNR.

    1. invisible finger

      The waiting is the hardest part.

  113. AlmightyJB

    Present

  114. Rhywun

    So what’d I miss?