The Juice is loose (and is telling people to fuck off about his plans). Pitino has his house up for sale and swears he’ll be vindicated in the college basketball scandal that has effectively cost him his job. ย The favorites all won in college ball this weekend. Oh wait, that’s not true. Troy beat LSU at home. ย That’s TROY. ย And that’s awesome. ย Their fans were chanting “S-E-C” as the clock ran out, which for me was reminiscent of when my section started doing it at the Sugar Bowl a few years ago as we beat Bama. ย But that was Ohio State, not Troy. ย Meanwhile, theย Men Of Troy went to Washington State and lost. ย Which leaves Washington and Washington State as the two lone undefeated in the Pac-12. ย Ohio State annihilated Rutgers, as expected. But another beatdown in the local area took place that was maybe not as expected in the Presidents Cup, as the USA team shellacked the Internationals and all but had it locked up before singles play even started. ย And what’s scary is that almost all of the players on the USA team are in their 20s. ย So this could be a regular occurrence for some time to come.
The 2017 playoffs are set! And we’ve got all your coverage right here. ย The Yankees will host the Twins tomorrow in the AL Wild Card and the winner will head to Cleveland to take on a surging Indians team. ย And having finished their series at Fenway, the Red Sox and Astros will head to Houston to start another series…only one that matters a lot more. ย That starts Thursday. ย On the senior circuit, the Rockies head to Phoenix to face the D-backs. ย The winner will face a Dodgers team that is leaking oil. ย And the Cubs will head to our nation’s capital to start their series against the Nationals later this week. ย My WC picks: Twins and D-Backs win. ย I’ll make by divisional series picks once the matches are set (and I get to reset if I’ve made a mistake).
That’s all for sports. I know there’s one thing that will be sucking the air out of the other news, so let’s get to…the links!
Some psychopath used a machine gun to kill more than 50 people at a concert in Las Vegas.ย He set up his nest in a 32nd room floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel for his rampage. Police confronted and killed him in the hotel.
A guy who got his clock cleaned in the presidential primary by the eventual winnerย is thinking about leaving the party.ย You’ll be missed, John. See you in 2020 when you get less than 2% support before fading into the history books.
Did you ever wonder if Canada was more cosmopolitan than the United States? ย Well wonder no more.ย That’s what I call classy.
Daaaaaayum! ย Saturday Night Live sure is brave and edgy. I wonder what they’ll do next week?ย Oh yeah. They’ll do the same exact thing.
Well good for Miami! ย They must be flush with moneyย if their city government is voting on shit like this and people aren’t showing up at city hall with pitchforks and torches.
I know I brought the place up before, butย its DEFINITELY going to be the host of the first statewide Texas Glibs meet up now.ย Hell, we might have to start hosting the staff and/or board meetings there too. (It might be borderline NSFW for the more prudish employers, but its on the website of a major American newspaper, so i’m feeling fine about posting it.)
Here you go.ย Let’s be a little upbeat.
Go out there and have a good one, friends. ย And pray or give good thoughts for everybody in Las Vegas.
‘Cosmopolitan’ strikes me as a pejorative term.
Me too!
Canadian Tuxedos will be all the rage in Paris and Hong Kong this fall.
Cosmo Cringe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vobn5fm5kfA
โCosmopolitanโ strikes me as a pejorative term.
So does ‘Canada’.
What the fuck? What in the fuckity fucking fuck? What the fucking hell is wrong with fucking people?
My thoughts on Vegas.
^^me too^^
This is going to be a political shit show.
Some random – and probably wrong – guesses:
Stephen Paddock is not a right winger since why would he shoot up a country music show? I’m guessing mental health issues. But having a helper in this confounds that theory. I guess I will have to wait for more info.
I have a handful of predictions, but they’re only guesses until more information comes out. And they are most certainly colored by my biases.
My first guess is another deranged lefty like the guy who shot up the GOP softball team. Is this a new trend?
Only a few possibilities here. If it’s not political, it’s a random paranoid schizophrenic who either went off his meds or had a psychotic break. If it is political, since it was a country music concert, then it’s either a left-wing antifa type or an Islamist. If it’s one of the latter two don’t expect to hear much about it in the media, because then they will focus on “gun control” instead.
Anyone read Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Matthew Bracken? Had a very similar event that set off massive gun control measures that sent the country into civil war.
Girl in the crowd said a short lady started yelling, “You’re all gonna die” about 45 minutes before the rampage. She and her short boyfriend were escorted out. If they’re connected, could be a revenge killing for someone cutting in line at a show, or some stupid shit like that. We’ll find out soon I guess.
a short lady started yelling, โYouโre all gonna dieโ
I believe that’s standard at just about all country music concerts.
Paging Yvette Felarca. Ms. Felarca on the red phone …
The girlfriend helper is indeed a confounding variable. People can go crazy in tandem, but given the ages of the people involved and the amount of planning, this seems like more than garden-variety lunacy. Granted, no mentally healthy person does something like this, but this smells like there’s a motive beyond following the advice of a talking dog.
Latest seems to be that she contacted police and they no longer consider her involved.
Everyone to their corners, get ready to stand on graves. Fuck.
That. The bodies not only aren’t cold; they’re still twitching.
Not that it will stop the chattering class.
Thought the guy “was known to law enforcement” despite the initial report of no criminal record. Then again, it takes time to canvass the records of all of the places this guy could have lived and interacted with people.
Odds that he was a diagnosed nut?
If he’s “known to law enforcement” and the gun was indeed full auto, it could be that he’d gone through the rigmarole to legally own a full auto weapon. That would require local PD to sign off on his application and he’d be required to answer for the location of the gun(s) whenever they asked.
Absolutely horrific.
I don’t get it either. I can understand getting to a point where you want to off yourself. I’ll never understand someone who decides to execute 10 or 20 or 50 random people. Burn in hell motherfucker.
Fuck. That guy was a major prick. It’s times like these I wish I believed in Hell.
From the previous thread on why no one was initially returning fire:
The guy was about 3 to 4 hundred yards away. The Mandalay Bay hotel overlooks the concert facility, but the concert facility is kitty-corner across the Strip and Mandalay Bay Road from the hotel. And in the cell phone videos, you can hear the crack-crack-crack of the incoming fire, wait a second or so, then hear the in sync pop-pop-pop of the muzzle blast. He was a ways away from the concert. Sounded a lot like funker videos of guys taking PK fire, except for the strange variance in rate-of-fire.
Anyway, you’re not returning fire against a guy with (WAG) a .30 caliber, bump-fire or crank fire, rifle utilizing something like a belt, drum mag or other very high capacity magazine, unless you’ve a rifle right there with you.
Filthy son of a bitch. Why can these disgusting pieces of filth kill themselves if they’re so damned unhappy? Why do they have to harm people who just wanted to catch a concert?
Worse mass shooting in US history. Thing is, from the initial reports (relayed from things like scanner feeds, etc…, and, as we see, are usually wrong) it was looking like a Mumbai or Westgate style assault: multiple shooters, potential VBIED, casualty reports in multiple locations. Which would have been worse.
It’s going to be interesting to hear just what excuses his companion is going to have for not telling people about this shit pile.
So basically a nothing you can do situation.
Run. Be somewhere else. Put something really solid between you and shithead.
It’s like winning a bad luck lottery. I mean, what are the chances you’ll ever be in something like this, even if you made a habit of going to live music every night? Vanishingly slim. You’re much more likely to get into a wreck coming or going from the venue.
Yeah. I mean, basically the thing you can do to avoid an ambush shooting is stay home, all the time. It really makes you think about how much trust you put in other people just going outside. That’s why this is so especially evil. I’m avoiding the news reports, but I’m assuming the police killed this guy, but, if not, I’d be all in favor of torturing him to death. And his accomplice.
He shot himself prior to police breaching his door. He’s confirmed dead already.
Of course he did, the pussy. Guys like this always kill themselves because they’re too afraid to face the consequences of their actions. What a vile piece of shit.
I blame Trump first and then global warming.
And then Trump again because he caused global warming
The deactivation of my FB account was well timed it seems.
The guy had been holed up in the hotel room since thursday with ten guns so this doesn’t sound like a random act. Sane people don’t do things like this but who knows what particular brand of insanity this guy had. I have a hard time believing that a right winger would hit a country music show but past that I just can’t imagine what was going through his mind.
Someone get that bear a cocktail stat!
Nah, the place he hangs out is a real dump.
I refuse to do this pun thing
Iโll trash anybody who jumps in here and continues this.
That would be unbearable.
::recognizes change in direction of punning::
Iโll allow it.
But he’ll bruin it all!
Allow it? Fuck off slaver! Donโt tell me what to do. So stop crapping all over this.
We can claw our way out of it.
*prolonged narrowed gaze*
Oso, that’s it.
I’m disgusted by this grizzly decision
Then apparently weโre polar opposites.
This whole thread is horribilis
Something something Big Dipper?
You’re Going to Love My Bigfoot
STEVE SMITH SPECIAL POWER IS RAPE!!
AND BY RAPE, MEAN RAPE-RAPE.
Sex Work: a riot of body fluids, condom balloons and Day-Glo dick aliens
If their “visions” were getting their dues, they’d have been tossed in the heap next to the bear’s couch and been buried with the rest of the trash.
I dunno about that.
There was a DP dildo stuck on top of a barrel cactus. A cactus. And a dildo. That makes it high art. It is a statement. A brave statement.
Respect.
That it? Not even an actual cactus dildo?
That’s not a statement, that’s just lazy.
…masterminded by American curator Alison Gingeras to promote nine disparate artists who came of age in the 1960s and 70s and have struggled against all kinds of censorship to find an audience.
Yeah, Iโm gonna need a citation. Because lack of interest or public funding =/= censorship.
Has anyone confirmed if the Vegas shooter had a fully automatic weapon?
Not as far as I can find – but there’s been a recent burst of chaff of media desperate for content repeating things ‘famous’ people twitted in response. At this point I’d like events like this to be covered in two separate streams. One for reactions and a ‘just the facts’ data stream that isn’t cluttered with “X sent their thoughts and prayers; Y politicized the event; Z has not weighed in”
XYZ. XYZ. Rinse, repeat ad nauseum.
At this point I’m planning to wait a day or two before even bothering to dig more into this story. When an event is this politicized I don’t trust any initial information save the primary sources, and I don’t think I cam bring myself to watch those right now.
There are a few videos floating around from the concert level and they are difficult to watch.
Surprisingly, I couldn’t see the shooter’s flash from the wall of windows at Mandalay Bay. Hearing all of those cracks, with a few ricochets, and having no idea where the fire is coming from.
Video with some of the gunshots
Yep, maybe some kind of bump-fire device but that’s either full auto or Jerry Miculek.
This makes my blood boil so bad. FUCK
That sounds like an automatic to me.
That’s what I thought but I’m no expert – consistency is too good for someone pulling the trigger for every shot.
I’ve seen some consistant rigs.
If it is automatic, I then wonder if it’s a conversion or an illegally obtained native automatic.
Could be. Could be bump fire. Does sound like single source (no major variance in volume or tone between shots). Want to know PD’s assessment of the weapon, as the shooter is dead and they presumably have it in evidence.
They found a whole ‘cache’ of weapons, but no word on the composition or size of said cache.
To me it sounds more like bump fire using a slide fire stock. You can hear slight variations in the cadence from time to time. It’s also a bit slower than a full auto. The current news report says the guy had 10 rifles. This is bad. This is the big one.
The fact that a country music venue was targeted makes me believe it was a lefty attacking Trump supporters. Holy fuck. Buy your guns now.
The ‘old men’ (my GF’s nickname for them) at arfcom seem to think the thing was hand-cranked, like an old Gatling Gun. The rate of fire does sound oddly variable, and I guess they do make hand cranks for faux automatic weapons fire.
Awfully high rate of fire. Doubt it’s the 1200 RPM of an MG-3 or -42, but sounds faster than the 500 RPM of an M2.
It sounded slower than the natively automatic AR-variants I’ve heard. Very mid range, and if a gatling, definatley not electrically cranked.
Yes – slower than an AR or AK which makes me think bump-fire. And it just doesn’t sound like a belt-fed machinegun to me.
A Gatling gun seems like way too much kit to sneak in to a hotel without anybody noticing.
Other video of the shots from below
I think it is too inconsistent to be a full auto weapon. Bump fire, or some device maybe. As some have speculated.
Fucking infuriating this shit is.
That is odd. It is reminiscent of the sound of someone cranking a gatling gun.
I would also guess bump fire…. there isn’t an auto that slows down like that, is there?
Not that I am aware of. I have shot fully auto just a handful of times in my life though. I am far from an expert, but it just doesn’t sound right. Crank fire attachment makes sense to me.
ABC News claims it was a fully automatic.
But it’s ABC, so…
I’m thinking Infowars might actually be better…
So that means people can’t use this for political talking points, since automatics are fully illegal to civilians already. Good, focus on the victims and the psychopath instead.
So that means people canโt use this for political talking points
Oh, they will twist and torture it however necessary to force it into their preferred narrative.
Did it have the black thing that goes up?
So that means people canโt use this for political talking points
Hah! Experience tells me facts don’t matter when massive political leverage is on the line.
I’ll mail you a cashier’s check for $10,000 if that’s what people do.
*sigh*
I wasn’t going to pitch in on this yet, but that one’s a doozy.
Even I, as a green card holder, non-citizen can purchase and fire a full automatic weapon, even in the DPRCT.
I do have to undergo a very extensive background check, pay a couple hundred for the tax stamp, wait about a year and then pony upwards of 10K in order to purchase an automatic weapon. And every LEO office in America will know I’m in possession of it.
In my town, the local cops also have – as I understand it – the ability to contact me whenever they want and have me declare that it’s still in my possession, and that it’s in a safe and secure location.
However, as we know, crazy people and criminals often don’t follow the law.
As a P.S., the weapon is most likely to be a fully automatic in 30 cal, box mag fed. I haven’t heard much of the footage, but it sounds like he was firing 20-30 rounds, with a break in fire, sufficient to load another mag. That puts it in AK/M14 territory.
It’s doable, but it’s highly regulated. You also can’t buy a full auto weapon made after 1986, I believe, so the weapons being sold are basically old pre-owned guns going between a pretty small group of owners. Dealers can own newer weapons, but since they can’t be sold to private citizens that again is a very select group of people. And as you say, they’re damned expensive.
Also, as far as I know, in CT it has to be full auto, also. Select fire is illegal.
Correct. Illogical, but correct.
Indeed, you can’t even purchase an AR-15 pattern gun of in 5.56 or larger, unless it’s a pre-ban. America’s Rifle. Banned.
There are, however, lots of M1As being bought.
This is a mainstream outfit: if it fires bullets, it’s full-auto.
“My full-auto musket always empties its entire magazine with one trigger pull!”
Also it would be interesting if the weapon was legal, although it is all rather irrelevant now.
If it was legal and legally obtained, then that’s one extra extra extra unhinged fuck. Guns like that are worth a fortune.
Apparently the cops say it was just a semi-auto, not a machine gun.
Time to turn the teevee off.
The Mayor of San Juan is starting to look like the next Ray Nagin.
At this rate, sheโll get to host SNL next week. Aaaaaand then sheโll have her shitty city govt looked into and then the truth of what is really causing this delay in supplies will
get reported and she will get destroyedget covered up and Trump will be blamed.You used to live and work there Sloop. Is any of this surprising to you? The island has what, 5% power restored after how many days since the hurricane?
What would you do with Puerto Rico, if you were king, Sloopy?
I know you asked Sloopy, but I’d turn it into a penal colony for dissidents.
I never said I’d be a benevolent king.
Puerto Australia?
Needs some more poisonous creatures.
Divide it into counties and appoint a Count to rule each and keep the peasants in line.
Itโs been 19 years since I lived there. Lots of people had generators after Hugo. And lots of people were also given free homes after Hugo and expect the govt to take care of them. But that was a generation ago almost.
My guess is that people are wholly unprepared for this.
What would I do? Iโd open the place up for competitive power generation and see the real rate (not the subsidized one) drop like a stone. And Iโd call for a vote: statehood or independence. No more of this territory bullshit.
Then Iโd open the island up as a tax haven tge likes of which could compete with the Caymans and Bahamas only with a larger population base and the ability to become even larger. Then Iโd declare war on the Dominican Republic and push those filthy fuckers into Haiti or the Caribbean Sea.
I like the way you think.
Should I even ask?
Anyway, I’d thought you’d been there more recently. It’s surprising that they’re so unprepared, living near the Caribbean which, while not Hurricane Alley per se, still gets them from time to time. Though Maria was a pretty big storm when it hit.
More competition is good. and I like your thoughts on making them a state or cutting them loose. Do it for the Marianas, Samoa, and the Virgin islands while we’re at it. Let’s make PR a gambling and maybe IP haven too.
When I lived there, there were a lot of Dominican illegals living there and bleeding the place of welfare. Free Hugo homes, free WIC, free insurance, free everything and then getting a cash gig on top of it. They were notorious for gaming the system where I lived and worked (Luquillo and Fajardo area). And they were filthy as fuck. Naked kids in the yard shitting in the grass, not keeping their water turned on so they were shitting in buckets and using rainwater to flush them (into the gutter). Just all-around nasty motherfuckers I came in contact with in the area around where I worked or went for entertainment.
But maybe those were just the ones that gravitated to the NE of the island. Although my friends in other towns and in San Juan allcsaid it was the same there.
I think you’ve been watching too much Black Sails
There’s obviously a custom t-shirt service open somewhere in PR
Maybe that guy had all his money on the Colts.
In news you won’t hear about today. A haji went off in Edmonton and stabbed a cop.
Put up or shut up John. Don’t issue idle threats.
Whats the over under he puts an L after his name?
Why not? He’d just be continuing the legacy of the Libertarian Party.
Like it even matters anymore.
John Kasich – Loser
Hasnโt Trump already done that for him?
What’s sad is that the man has had decent ideas that the GOP would find are very popular if implemented on a federal level. For instance, the best thing he did was make sure that Ohio’s Board of Regents (for education) was required to make Community College credits 100% transferable to any publicly funded institution of higher learning in Ohio (and the private schools mostly got on board as well). If the GOP wants to crater the professor and administrative class of universities without pulling more public funding, they should implement this idea nationwide. It benefits the poor and children from homes that aren’t the best in education that decide they want education later on (by saving money in early years of college), and saves on student loans for a standard student as well. If we are going to have the evil of federally funded higher ed, let’s at least make it a more affordable and competitive evil.
So, Kasich is auditioning to be Gary Johnson’s 2020 running mate?
LP 2020 ” Weld: America together.” Its Weld’s turn to vouch for a former GOP governor now that he has proven his loyalty to the party.
Kasich is the absolute worst type of politician, a preening moralizer.
Trump always wins, John. You just proved his point.
Winners are winners.
And another one got stabby in France and killed two girls.
We have some dear friends there at the moment and are waiting on word from them. Until then, I am damn nervous.
What do you say? Hope for the best, man.
Thoughts and prayers for your friends. And everyone else there.
Jesus, OMWC. I’m sorry. I hope they make it through safe.
They responding to texts at all?
No. Nor phone calls. But she’s a total sex pig, so they could be recovering from a long night of vacation banging (the good kind).
Per this tweet from Representative Ruben J. Kihuen,
Worth a try?
Hoping for the best. Sorry you’re having to endure this.
Iโm with you, man. But Iโm sure all is ok.
What sloopy said – I’m sure they’re ok.
I hope they are OK.
Hope they’re all right. Am praying today.
Hope for the best OMWC. I live and work in Vegas. This Glib lurker is safe
Just heard from them (and since they’re OK, I can say that it’s Riven & co.).
Thanks for the good wishes, all.
Palease. Given what you said above we all knew who you were talking about.
This is why we all love her.
This is good news.
Oh wow. That hits close to home…sort of. Never met her, but you get to feel like you kinda know people on here. Does that makes sense?
Anyway, very glad Riven and Mr. Riven are OK.
Yes, it does. We’ve formed a real community here, and you get a really good sense of the people behind the keyboards.
Not to mention the lizards and rapesquatches. Well, rapesquatch, I hope there’s only one.
Sorry, I hope they’re OK.
Norwegian and Swedish politicians argue over which country is committing suicide better.
How long till Sweden implodes?
They already have, they’re just in denial.
One neighborhood at a time. Makes it easy to ignore if you avoid those neighborhoods.
Decline of the center-leftists
During the postwar decades, social democracy promoted solidarity and a sense of shared national purpose so as to avoid the fractures that undermined European democracy during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. In contrast to Communists, who exclusively focused on class conflict, the center-left built bridges between workers and others. And in contrast to the individualism of classical liberals and many conservatives, the center-leftโs emphasis was on citizensโ obligations to one another and the governmentโs duty to promote the good of society.
You know who else wanted to promote solidarity and a sense of shared national purpose?
tl;dr- absent the high minded squishy socialist parties, Europe is doomed.
Only if those people are going full commie
[Citation needed]
“And in contrast to the individualism of classical liberals and many conservatives, the center-leftโs emphasis was on citizensโ obligations to one another and the governmentโs duty to promote the good of society”
‘obligations’
Well that’s one way to say leftists focused denying people basic freedoms.
Do I get to be the one who defines good of society? If so I may be on board.
Don’t be silly. You get trod upon.
More illiterate fundamentalist immigrants is what they mean by that.
Do I get to be the one who defines good of society?
That depends. Do you have any particular talent, ability or worth as a human being? If so, then I’m afraid that the answer is you don’t.
That depends. Do you identify as a straight white male?
You know who else wanted to promote solidarity and a sense of shared national purpose?
Lech Walesa?
*applause*
I strongly suspect that many idiots in the UK voted for Corbyn in the belief that he is a squishy socialist, or at any rate on the basis that he is Labour and therefore ‘nice’. While ignorance of basic economics is pervasive, I don’t agree that the majority of people even here have suddenly become commies.
“And in contrast to the individualism of classical liberals and many conservatives, the center-leftโs emphasis was on citizensโ obligations to one another and the governmentโs duty to promote the good of society.”
This is the same exact bull shit they taught us in school and I had to self de-program from.
When you read about the motives and attitudes of these people who ‘wanted to promote the good of society’ they were usually just, well, nanny-assholes. They wanted power to keep the undesirables under control. There was *some* aim to do good but their means and reasons were generally rooted in faulty premises.
On days like this, I try to remember this:
โIf only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?โ
โ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
That book is a treasure box of excellent quotes. When you read it, you can easily replace the bad guys with progressives. It’s the same EXACT mind set and rhetoric.
Where you can’t really build a case that Trump is a Nazi and not be laughed off, you can most certainly draw a parallel between ‘the organs’ and modern progressivism if treated properly I reckon.
Reading that book is why I’m a libertarian. Seriously. After reading that I came to the obvious conclusion that the state is evil. I don’t know how one could read that book and not come to the same conclusion.
4chan and Reddit sleuths are hard at work this morning.
I’m sure they’ll be just as successful as they were after the Boston Marathon bombing.
Were they?
Ask Sam Hyde. Or any of the other people they mis-identified.
You know, if we had a media we could trust to do their job, we wouldn’t be relying on a bunch of maladjusted autists to try and ferret out the truth.
You do know the Sam Hyde thing has always been a meme, right?
To the people in on the joke.
I think I just know too many old people who delight in forwarding his name, or variants of it, around each time one of these incidents happen.
Do we know if our autistic wired mascots have managed to dig up anything noteworthy on this guy?
I’ve been lurking /pol/ all day, and so far, nothing really. I think people are being more careful after they screwed up in identifying the Charlottesville guy.
They did successfully troll a Russian news station into reporting that Sam Hyde was the shooter. It was pretty funny.
I’m hoping they’ll be as successful as they were against Eric Clanton. Doubt it, though: I think a big reason they were so successful there was the media completely ignoring it, essentially giving the weaponized autists zero background noise or misleading data. In Boston and this case there are going to be a lot of false reports and finger pointing that’ll screw everything up.
Ugh – found out that my friend Bill, who died over the weekend, killed himself. I thought it was an accident or some unknown medical issue. He was the last person in the world that I would call suicidal. I guess it goes to show you that what you often see in people is just a facade.
Sorry to hear that.
Shit, sorry man.
Sorry to hear that, LH.
Condolences, LH
Sorry.
Oh man, that’s rough. Very sorry to hear that.
Sorry.
I guess it goes to show you that what you often see in people is just a facade.
I had a friend who killed himself. We moved to different parts of the country after undergrad, and didn’t see each other often. The last time I saw him, he was strangely calm. A few months later, dead. His friends that lived near him didn’t see it coming or know there was anything wrong. I think, in hindsight, that that last time I saw him, he had already checked out.
Oh, man. I am very sorry to hear this.
Aw, man, that’s awful. Sorry to hear it.
Oh man, that sucks LH. Condolences.
thanks, everyone.
In my old circle of friends it certainly left a lot of questions. Bill was a real outgoing guy who never had a problem hooking up with women, or making fast friends. There were any number of people who he could have called. Everyone is pretty gobsmacked by the whole thing.
Bill was the guy I was jealous of – I mean his wild life of going all over the world and doing what he wanted to do. He once invited me on a three week long jaunt to Cambodia but I declined since it would have burned up all my vacation time for a year.
We tend to think someone who is outgoing would have no problem talking to people, but it seems to be the exact opposite some times. See Robin Williams. Sorry for your loss.
Yeah I noticed that Bill never really wanted to discuss anything “deep” – just surface topics. I tend toward philosophy – meaning of life & death – much to the annoyance of many.
Bill sounds like me. I am someone that can be totally outgoing and walk into a room full of strangers and strike conversations up with anyone. But ask me to talk about myself, to go deep, and I clam up. Just am not a sharer. I can see how some people end up feeling lonely or dread that disconnected. Lucky for me, so far, I have been fine with people telling me I am emotionally unavailable. Sorry to hear about your friend man.
Do you write?
Sorry, man. No good answers.
One of my childhood pals shot himself 15 years ago. Same deal – good looking, successful, etc. The rest of us were shocked. No hints, no nothing.
Heartbreaking that someone can be carrying around that much pain.
I am sorry for your loss. He sounds like a very interesting person to have known.
Perhaps some underlying medical condition, beyond major depression, that would have deprived Bill of the lifestyle he enjoyed?
But usually, there is no reason that we will ever understand.
So, Kasich is auditioning to be Gary Johnsonโs 2020 running mate?
Kasich and Peter King for the Libertarian ticket. It could work.
No way, man. I’m not giving up on Styxhexenhammer/Razorfist 2020.
Flip that ticket and they have my vote.
But Razor is like 12 years old.
Razorfist 2040
Is that like Warhammer 40000?
Thoughts and prayers for Vegas. Knowing what the media will be taking about for the next week, I might be off the grid for a while.
They won’t, because they can’t. Automatic weapons are not legal to civilians. No amount of gun control could’ve stopped this from happening.
“No amount of gun control couldโve stopped this from happening.”
That has literally never stopped them before.
Exactly. No amount of gun control could have stopped any mass shooting, but that has never deterred them in the past.
If you could magically vanish all guns, you’d be left with bombs, cars, airplanes, and heavy construction equipment. It’s the brain, not the tool.
Or gasoline.
Doubt it’s a legally owned full-auto, if it’s even full auto at all. If so, that’d be IIRC, the second or third crime ever committed with one. Which is an argument for gun control, I suppose.
IIRC, someone ran a story about hand-forged AKs in Afghanistan. Its an open secret that 90%+ of small machine shops in the US could turn out rifles. Guns aren’t hard to make, they’ve just been (relatively) easy to acquire compared to the hassle of making and caching your own.
Darra, Pakistan. Michael Palin did a show on the Himalayas and shot scenes there.
I looked into it a few years ago. If I recall, since the NFA there has only been one crime involving a legal full auto. And it was a gun law violation, not a violent crime.
There’s a guy on Youtube that made a hand forged AK from shovels purchased at a local home store in a forge made from a 55 gallon drum.
Building fully functioning firearms is not difficult – and given the easy availability of all the key components, building one that is relatively reliable – or at least, that will hold up for a few thousand rounds – could be done with little more than hand-tools and some time. It’s also legal at the moment. But also, irrelevant.
The gun or guns used last night did exactly what a gun is meant to do. The problem here was the guy with the gun. Yes, the high rate of fire enabled the guy to do far more harm, but that’s why people with a certain ideology try and get larger trucks to drive into crowds of innocent civilians.
Given that – in a practical sense – you can no more eliminate automatic weapons than you can eliminate 18-wheelers – our problems arise from the actions of a person. Not an object.
Common sense brain control!
/prog rallying cry
They’re already calling for that. See “check your privilege,” rheee-ing wrongthink, hate speech is not free speech, etc.
‘Which is why it’s extra important now that we get guns out of the hands of private citizens. Things like this are next to impossible to stop in a world with so many guns floating around.’
So, yeah, they can and they will.
That’s not technically true, but the list of people who are authorized to own full-auto weapons is short as hell. It’s easier to get a TS/SCI clearance than to get permission to buy a full-auto gun.
Nah. It’s really not.
Getting a legal machine gun is expensive and requires some paperwork and a long wait, but the background check is basically, “Are you a criminal?”
The shortest published paper (in the Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 1974) has a word count of 0:
https://twitter.com/juliagalef/status/914655178107867137
Only if you count the body. The footnotes push it above that limit.
In other sports news, the Titans are so bad, they made Houston look like a real team with playoff chances.
Watson is actually a pretty damned good football player. Or, at least until the League gets enough tape on him.
Now, if the defense could get back to where they were in, say, 2011. And if they could find an O-line this next off-season. Jeez, trade Duane Brown or give him some guaranteed money already.
Professor who critiqued radical feminism accused of promoting โviolence,โ targeted for termination
You know who else was targeted for termination…
Sarah Conner?
“Is this the poorly-sourced literature review of Sarah Connor?”
“Come with me if you want to keep your job!”
Those students that would see him fired have nothing else to do than complain and agitate. They are being underwritten by either wealthy parents or federal student loans or both. The simple solution is to get rid of federal guarantees for student loans and no longer exempt those loans from bankruptcy. Interest rates and loan scrutiny would immediately jump and the majority of the students who are pursuing non-productive degrees would be forced to reconsider their choices.
I hate the idea of student loan forgiveness and federal guarantees.
Especially now that I’m three payments away from having paid mine off the right way.
While I also hate the idea of people being able to get out from under them via bankruptsy, it is a necessary evil to increase scrutiny of the actual financial prospects by the lending institutions…
But what I think about when I read your statement is “I’ll have paid off my Student Loans on Pearl Harbor Day”
I would support that. But, at the same time, I think it’s absolutely necessary to reverse the government’s absurd support for credentialing in the labor market. Allow employers to administer aptitude tests, as just one example. We’re pushing kids into an insane dilemma of needing a degree (any degree) to get employment then wondering why they’re degree-obsessed.
Absolutely agree. The college system is bloated and overdue for a bust.
“โTransgender rights activists are seeking to abridge parental rights by elevating the independent choices of young children,โ Yenor wrote. โRespecting the sexual and gender โchoicesโ of ever-younger children erodes parental rights and compromises the integrity of the family as an independent unit.โ
โThere exists no better way of extending the sexual revolution that second-wave feminists imagined than by shaking confidence in the very idea of man and woman,โ according to the report. โTransgender theories are part of the feminist goal of a sexual revolution that eliminates the proprietary family and celebrates non-monogamous sexual experiences.โ
And if he took the opposite view, he would have been attacked by the TERF’s.
http://www.heritage.org/gender/report/sex-gender-and-the-origin-the-culture-wars-intellectual-history
Honestly he does sound like a bit of a crackpot.
Second wave Feminists in general are fairly outraged by people with penises calling themselves women and 3rd wave feminists want to scale back on the sexual revolution as they see most non lesbian sex as inherently problematic symbols of rape and male domination of women.
The linkage between transgender theories and 3rd wave feminism is tenuous at best, both are certainly artifacts of cultural marxism and the general progressive desire to tear down western cultural institutions. Non monogamy however is not really tied to any of these and is frankly something that has been growing organically since before the sexual revolution independently of any progressive influences.
That said he is far less of a crackpot than anyone who argues a 6 year old should be able to decide their gender.
Spanish police crack down on referendum vote
Amazing the shit the cops in Europe are willing to overlook – obviously how their politician bosses want them to behave. But threaten to take away some of their tax-serfs and they get violent fast.
Europe is like a time portal into America’s future. Do we ever pay attention to the warnings?? No.
Well, it is pretty funny when a cultural enricher meets up with the local rednecks when he thinks he’s going to bully some city sissy. Eastern Europeans or Russians instead of Germans in this case.
Goddamn! The Poles do not play.
I ran that page through google translate and I loved this sentence:
Trump’s address to the shooting is going to be what? Subdued? Angry? Cringe worthy? Unifying (give that about a 0.0001% chance)?
Criticized – 100% chance.
We already know what it’s going to be: “Divisive!”
But what if he cries in the rose garden?
He’ll be accused of being weak when strenght was required. If he does not, he’ll be accused of being heartless.
With subtle dogwhistles to his racist supporters.
He’s only cares when white people are killed.
Not necessarily ,
He will be hailed as a presidential hero if he calls for a crackdown on firearms
“I love country music. Country music is the best music. Full of great people. Great. There’s nothing more American than country music. Terrible what happened. Horrible man. Glad he’s dead.”
Given how horrible country โmusicโ is, that would be a divisive statement.
Until this morning, I thought I hated pop country as much as the next guy.
Oh, God. Jeselnik-worthy tweet. Bravo.
Just play it backwards, you’ll hear the protagonist get a dog, a truck and a girlfriend.
“I love country music. Country music is the best music.”
More rhetoric to appeal to his base.
a Curtis Mayfield song to lift up your spirits.
I’m happy to hear that Larry David is sticking to his anti-PC guns. I missed it last night and will have to watch on demand.
okay that sounds really funny. good. finally something worth watching.
Can’t understand what might motivate somebody to start randomly shooting people? Read this
There was no better time or place to be a Communist than in San Francisco in the spring of 1945.
The world was poised to tip in a new direction and the start was the creation of the United Nations in San Francisco. As the delegates began taking their seats, the Red Army was battling to take Berlin. History seemed to be bending toward Moscow. Yet even conservatives held out hope that the United Nations could forge a lasting global peace. Expectations were so high that one columnist called the conference โthe most important human gathering since the Last Supper.โ
—————
The Russians were Americaโs feted allies, so Vyacheslav Molotov, Stalinโs stolid deputy โ an apparatchik so bland that Lenin once called him a โfiling clerkโ โ was the man of the hour, lionized like a movie star and hounded for autographs. Even Hedda Hopper, the gossip columnist who went on to browbeat blacklisted Hollywood stars, fell under his spell, pronouncing Molotov โcharmingโ and likening him in her column to Teddy Roosevelt (probably because they both wore pince-nez).
The conference was โGrand Hotelโ on the bay. Everyone who mattered, then or later, darted through the revolving doors: besides Molotov, Winston Churchillโs delegate, the future British prime minister Anthony Eden, and President Harry Trumanโs secretary of state Edward R. Stettinius, rubbed shoulders with show business royalty like Rita Hayworth, Lana Turner, Jack Benny, Paul Robeson and Orson Welles.
Wealthy dupes and social climbers make the world go round.
I can justify the politicians at the conference. It’s their job to deal with foreign leaders no matter how repulsive they are. But, the show business types having an orgasm over this guy really have no excuse. They were acting like groupies for a representative of a regime engaged in mass murder and political repression on scale that surpassed even the Nazis. It’s disgusting.
That’s has to be full auto.
https://youtu.be/zodiGpCdBzQ
That*
Negative ghost rider. My money is slide fire stock or handcrank.
Inside the World of the ‘Bitcoin Carnivores’
Why a small community of Bitcoin users is eating meat exclusively.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ne74nw/inside-the-world-of-the-bitcoin-carnivores?utm_source=mbtwitter
But what I think about when I read your statement is โIโll have paid off my Student Loans on Pearl Harbor Dayโ
Nice.
For Sugar Free (or anyone else that wants to chime it); Reposted from last night. OMWC said this was right up your alley. I’d appreciate any advice you have:
Does anyone have experience with paper conservation in general and blueprint conservation in particular? When we bought our house a couple years ago, we found the original, sixty-six year old blueprints in the basement. Itโs an Aladdin kit house, so they have some minor historical value in addition to the sentimental value.
At that age, the blueprints are probably cyanotypes. Keep them away light and away from bases, like buffered paper, and they should be fine. The paper is probably acidic, but deacidification of paper requires you to neutralize it in a calcium carbonate bath with deionized water and would damage the blue part of the blueprint extensively.
Our standard for blueprint storage is to interleave with acid-free (but not buffered) tissue paper and store in a dark, cool place with consistent temperature and humidity, a first-floor closet not on an exterior wall is your best bet in a residence. There is no problem storing them rolled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanotype
Awesome. Just what I was looking for. I owe you, SF!
Wait…I don’t want to be in debt to Sugar Free!
Too late.
I’ll pray for your soul.
Don’t worry. He’ll just have you as part of the cast of some of his video adaptations of his stories.
It’s cool, man. The IRS implications of getting your firstborn just aren’t worth it anymore.
Damn. RIP to those who lost their lives. Absolutely sickening.
But what if he cries in the rose garden?
While vilifying hard-hearted monsters hiding behind foolish “loopholes” in the law, from a lofty vantage point atop a mound of still-warm bodies?
What sort of person would do such a thing?
This twitter account is usually stupid but for some reason this amused me
https://twitter.com/HoldThisBeer/status/910211834413596673
The Twins have, what, a 275 win % against the Yanks?
Wonder what your Ravens fans think of the fans booing the team as they prayed.
Bennett is one special dude. I watched the video of Lombardo explaining the sequence of events of what happened. Seems to me it was text book police stuff and hardly racially motivated on any grounds. Plus they were pretty damn polite at the end. It was one of those things.
And Americans are expected to protest that? GTFOH.
Which is why they are due for a win. Go Twins! C’mon Rufus, say it with me! Go Twins!
Yeah, given the Twins record of futility against the Yankees, I don’t see why you would pick them. Although anything can happen in just one game.
The Twins turn into the Washington Generals against the Yankees in the playoffs. Honestly, basically a waste of jet fuel to even go to NYC and play.
Yep. All those years of division championships only to be drummed out by the Yankees (seemingly) every year. So frustrating.
The worst year was the one where Mauer hit a liner down the 3rd base line that was fair by at least a foot and would have scored runs and put us in the driver’s seat. Then the ump called it foul.
I think that is when the “jinx” started.
Yeah, I hope Phil Cuzzi is enjoying the fat check that Steinbrenner cut him. Asshole.
Also, wasn’t that play the “final straw” to getting instant replay instituted?
Don’t do it Rufus! MikeS is a sadist who tricks you into thinking on the bright side of life. He coaxes you out of the emotional safe space bunker you have built to protect yourself only to get stomped on by the Yankees.
Any other team and it wouldn’t be so bad.
What?! That doesn’t sound like me at all!
Vegas has the Twins as a +210 dog to the Yankees. Who are a -240 bet.
So, Vegas seems to think the Yankees are about a 70/30 favorite to win. Which seems a touch high, but what do I know?
I’m not a fan of the one day WC, FWIW. Make it at least best of three.
I agree. One day “playoffs” are bullshit. Not a whole lot better than a coin flip.
The flip side of the argument is, “Hey, stop bitching and win your division. Be glad you even get to play in a WC game.” And, being a fan of the Giants the year they won 103 games or so, and still lost the division to the Braves who won 104, I see why they put the WC in.
But one game is really too random for baseball or basketball.
I have been down on MLB ever since they expanded to 3 divisions and added a wild card.
I liked the old playoffs where only 4 teams made it and fuck off you other losers. You are the 93 Giants and win 103 games? Fuck you, the Braves won 104 and you are out!
Or make it like Japan’s (I think, could be someone else): a two-game series, but the first WC only has to win one while the second WC has to win both to advance.
Right, MLB playoffs aren’t long enough. I believe that in the ’07 World Series between Boston and Colorado that there were good chances of Coors Field being snow-covered.
I mean, its not hockey or basketball. It only runs a month.
Granted. What’s really long is the regular season. Shorten it to a nice round 150 games and then you can have a slightly longer playoffs without having to paint baselines in color over snow.
I was at that 2007 opener in Coors Field and it was pretty damn cold. To be fair, there are chances for Coors Field to be snow-covered at the end of May.
I’m am strongly leaning toward this being some flavor of Bernie Bro. Can’t see a Dylan Roof shooting up a bunch of white folks at a country music concert.
Aren’t radical leftists terrified of guns? I’m leaning towards a straight-up nutcase a la James Holmes.
Ask the guy who shot Steve Scalise
There is apparently an armed subset. Not as prevalent among their base, but not unknown.
I know that Bernie is more open than the average leftist to gun owners and pro-lifers. Mainly since his brand is “Shut up and gimme dat!”
How politicized has everything become that we all first assume that this falls into the red/blue political discourse vs the most obvious assumption that this was an insane person doing something insane?
^This. It’s sad, but it’s true. The saddest thing about it is it’s believable.
It’s because political insanity is a common trigger for folks who were already batshit insane to start with.
Anyone who does something like this is insane. But their reasons for doing it vary. And it’s usually political.
Is it? I feel like they’re usually kind of surprisingly unpolitical. That one in Orlando was more about religious confusion, and that kid at the Church was just kind of pure insanity.
To me, hating gays enough to kill a bunch of them, and hating blacks enough to kill a bunch of them, are political statements.
A non-political mass shooting would be something like “my ex-wife is a bitch, this’ll show her”
It’s obviously total speculation on my part, but my spidey sense is telling me they’ll be finding some lefty connections with this guy.
If so, expect this to be blamed on Trump creating an environment of hate and division.
Same as they did for the baseball field shooting
Mass shootings in the U.S. are rarely motivated by politics.
Even without all the recent Trump Derangement, it’s hard to disengage the immediate idea that someone who shoots up a C&W gig is probably someone with little or no interest in the attendees wellbeing.
Sadly, for the last 20 years or so, this will lead the average person to make assumptions about the ideology of someone who perpetrates this kind of deed. Stereotypes exist because they’re at least partially true.
But I’m reserving judgment until I see some data that looks even slightly objective – or, failing that, some that supports the narrative I want to own.
Because spree killers are rarely insane. They always have some flavor of personality disorder, but they usually are completely in control of their faculties. They know exactly what they are doing, and have a reason for doing it.
Leftists are terrified of guns in the hands of the peasants. Of course their enforcers need guns, ask Chairman Mao.
“Some psychopath used a machine gun to kill more than 50 people at a concert in Las Vegas.”
I think it was a semi-auto rifle. Thus the left are already calling for banning machine guns again.
Anyone hear anything about a motive? The guy hates country music?
I would go the route of no speculation until more info is available. Although speculate is what people do in these cases
Can’t ask him, self-inflicted death. So it will be a social media post-mortem like the Scalese shooting.
He also had a girlfriend who was with him in the room. I’m sure he did plenty of talking before he started shooting.
They’re now saying she was out of the country.
Yeah, I saw that. But apparently she had been with him earlier. Either someone has heard him talking a lot about violence or he’s just a nut off his meds.
But having 10 rifles in his room, I think it’s almost obvious this was planned.
Because if he’d only taken, say 2 or 3, he was just planning on personal protection.
Yes, what is the line there? Asking for a friend.
Well, you could easily take 2, 3, 4 guns with you because you’re in town and plan on going hunting nearby. There’s a big ol’ wildlife refuge north of Vegas and a smaller one to the east, and both are legal for hunting. But 10? Unless you’re a dealer, it’s unlikely you’d haul 10 rifles around with you.
The Daily Wire report claimed it was a FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPON, but they have a definite right-wing bias.
For what it’s worth, ABC was saying the same thing. I tend to believe that it’s likely to be true if two sources w/ different political bents say the same thing.
The police have the weapons – they will make a statement in due time.
Oh damn. What are we going to talk about until then?
Just randomly speculate.
Best case scenario on the gun: Full auto that was inventory from Fast and Furious and made its way back across the border.
Work OJ and Monte Hall into that and you got something big.
The first two doors police busted in had goats behind them?
You beat me to it.
I wouldn’t be surprised. NEW US Manufactured full auto weapons aren’t going to be sold to the public anywhere in the US. They’d have to be illegally imported, or stolen from the military.
Arenโt radical leftists terrified of guns?
In Massachusetts, maybe. In the west… don’t be so sure.
Rufus: My wife and I finally sat down to watch the new Will and Grace last night. We used to really like the original run. But the new one was so bad, my wife had me turn it off and delete it 2/3 through the show (it’s extremely rare for my wife to do that). It just wasn’t funny, and it was all “Republicans bad, Trump stupid!” I can’t see it lasting a whole season. Once again people in Hollywood have completely misjudged their viewers.
I was kind of surprised to see Will and Grace on my Hulu feed last night. That explains much.
At the end of the episode they had a self-aware moment like “We can get too preachy. We should just be what we always have been, i.e. apolitical.” So maybe they’ll tamp down on the signaling (I’ll be impressed if the writers can actually manage the restraint).
Also, Karen is the best character and she was a Trump-supporting shit stirrer, and it was funny.
W&G was never a great show or sitcom. It’s comedy has always been quite cut-and-paste, broad and obvious. But it was easy to watch and decent enough. I thought the new episode was in similar form.
Well amidst all the important news items, one little thing occured: cavalier973 and his ladycav’s tax deduction #5 entered the world.
Congratulations! Ten fingers, ten toes, mom and kid doing all right?
That’s really wonderful to hear.
Well, six fingers on one hand, four on the other. at least the seven-three split for the toes can be covered…
Everything is present in the correct distribution aspects. #5 is our second lady, so she has three elder knights as brothers sworn to her protection and an elder lady sister to teach her proper etiquette and form.
You realize that makes her Aryia right?
Congrats! Nice to bring out those moments of joy to help balance the day.
Thanks!
Congrats! 5? You are either brave, crazy, Mormon, or you need your dad to sit down and have the talk with you.
Hey! I resemble that comment!
Anytime I lose my job, we have another kid. I was laid off in January, so….
And life marches on. Great news cav’! Congrats!
Excellent!
Mazeltov- now start a fight by talking about the circumcision.
Huzzah
Congratulations!
Congrats, you crazy person.
Well done! My god man, 5!? Buy that woman a mink! Or a statue!
#5? Ya know there are ways to reduce the chances of that right? And congrats!
Hooray!! Congrats!!
Congrats! At least two more years of poopy diapers!
Congratulations!
(I’ve never asked before, why the ‘cavalier’ themed names?)
Because they are so cavalier about their use of contraception
*claps*
From Baldur’s Gate:
Cavalier
This class represents the most common picture of the knight: the gentleman warrior who epitomizes honor, courage, and loyalty. He is specialized in battling ‘classical’ evil monsters such as demons and dragons.
Advantages:
Bonus +3 to hit and +3 damage against all demonic and draconic creatures.
May cast Remove Fear 1 time per day per level.
Immune to fear and morale failure.
Immune to poison.
20% resistance to fire.
20% resistance to acid.
Disadvantages:
May not use missile weapons.
You’re not a very good cavalier, are you?
You’re firing plenty of ‘missiles’
*gives Jim Belushi-style saucy smile*
In that case, might I suggest a career change? You get all the knightly benefits and can also smite people with guns.
Fuckin’ kids today. Everyone’s a goddamn min-maxer.
Why, back in my day, we all played a modified version of 1st Edition, and were damned glad to do so. Picked up a copy of 4th edition to look at, wanted to throw up. Perverted idea. Worse than multi-classing.
4th ed is a tabletop MMO. Ignore it.
Depending on how you view the game – and I see all these things as being co-operative storytelling – all that’s happening is that the game designers and companies are fitting racing tires and spinners to a ’74 Dodge Dart.
Sure, if the objective is to have a tabletop version of a videogame, the details of the game mechanics become very important.
I ran a game of my modified 1st ed about 6 months ago for some noob-ish players who had some experience of other game systems, and the mechanics, such as they are, held up pretty well.
One of the players had the specs for Paladin, and my only advice to him was “It’s hard to be a paladin and uphold your God’s values – and your God DOES watch you.” and let him get on with it. As GM, I get to bust his chops if his alignment drifts. Then it was game on.
These kids (well, early 20’s) might want to move up to Ars Magica at some point, but for the moment, they’re having far too much fun accidentally immolating themselves when they use burning oil in close quarters.
Nothing I’ve seen in ‘new’ systems changes the substance of the experience for me, or for the players. I’d simply ignore the petty restrictions/enhancements that the newer systems impose.
4th edition is awesome. It is the fulfilment of D&D’s promise.
But, it violated the “wizards rule, fighters drool” principle, so the pseudo-old-school crowd hates it.
After 4e, I like “Basic” (Moldvay or Mentzer, doesn’t matter) best, and I think one would find that true of most fans of 4th edition.
I would play 1st edition next, then 2nd, then 3.X
I am not particularly attracted to the 5th edition rules.
6, you might like 5e then (though you’d hate Pathfinder). The developers decided that 3.5 and 4e were getting too rukes heavy, so they deliberately took a step in the opposite direction, with quite a bit of inspiration taken from 2e and even AD&D in particular. The rules there are mostly to stop players from becoming broken overpowered (it is rather obsessive with interparty balance) and heavily multiclassing while making minmaxing more difficult. Basic rulea are open source too.
Personally, while I like both 5e and Pathfinder for different reasons, my favorite system is Mutants and Masterminds. Character creation is complicated, but the tradeoff if being able to make just about any kind of character you want. The gameplay itself is more narrative focused and, at least when I’ve played, runs on crazy awesomeoness.
I’ve been playing in a 1st Edition campaign for about 2 years, running through all of the old school modules. Currently going through the massive Slave Lords campaign. This was largely due to revulsion to 4th Edition. 1st edition has it’s limitations, but it’s simple, and we use a lot of house rules
Several years ago, I had started a 4th Edition campaign that we decided to switch systems from D&D to Hero System; it was that bad.
/End Nerdgasm
While 4th edition was not very well done and it really is a tabletop MMORPG it does actually have some good aspects to it. It is worth studying for game design ideas, it is not worth playing because without a computer to keep track of all of the damage over time effects and condition counters it is basically unplayable.
I’ve been thinking of setting up an over-the-net gaming group with a webcam mounted like a rostrum camera, with something like an IRC or Discord channel for communications, and digging out my old (1980’s/90’s) campaign.
Oh, and has anyone ever played this?
Very strange and disturbing – even by my standards.
You don’t play a Holy Gun Paladin if you want to minmax. That class is decidedly underpowered, especially compared to the straight gunslinger or the warlord desperado. You play it because you want to play a holy knight smiting people with a flintlock.
Dude, here’s hoping you get another job soon, ‘cos at this rate, you’ll end up with a soccer team.
Someone likes flying their kite.
Congratulations!
Awesome! Glad to have another body for the breeding project!
It is a black or brown body?
Congrats!
Congratulations!
alright!
two girls is perfect. now you each have one child to take care of you when you get too old to wipe your own arse.
Exactly. And three to work hard to support us financially.
Congratulations!!
Great news! Good fortune to you and yours.
#5? Awesome!
Congratulations!
Congratulations!
My best to you and the rest of the family!
Congratulations!
Weapons of mass distraction.
http://archive.is/wX2BJ
1, 11, 36.
1 & 2. Both are just cute as a button. A buxom button.
25 is the (obvious) bunny boiler
1 and 2 are stunners. And those suckers are just as God made them, too, which is a huge plus.
I’m still not feeling too well, I’ll just take a two of #1.
I think 39 got shot in the face with a Picasso rifle.
Somewhere, Shannen Doherty read that comment and cried.
Son, 36 looks like she’d do dirty, dirty things.
#7 is the one for me.
I love #4, too. That expression
1, 9, 13, 19, 31
Lucky 13!
And I’d like to practice some touch-and-gos with 22.
Maybe this will lead to a cure for insomnia.
“Scientists share prize awarded for discoveries of molecular mechanisms controlling circadian rhythms โ the bodyโs inner clock โ fundamental to human health”
https://www.theguardian.com/science/live/2017/oct/02/the-2017-nobel-prize-in-physiology-or-medicine-live
Nerd alert!
RE: Vegas shooting.
I hate that the Left has made it such that my first thought after reading this is not sympathy for victims and anger at the perp it’s, “Oh joy. Now I get to hear screeds about gun control 24/7 for the next couple weeks.”
I’m sure that every leftist on Twitter is hoping that the weapon was semi-auto, so that the talking point sticks.
How many of them know the difference?
I don’t know guns, but I’d speculate that one is about half the amount of automatic-ness of t’other.
Semi-auto means it fires 50 bullets per trigger pull. Full auto means it fires about 10000 rounds a minute.
I don’t know how to convert between the two things. Maybe if we made everything parsecs?
Close. Automatic=hold trigger; lots of pew,pew.
Semi-automatic=hold trigger; one pew
Perfect.
Yup. Every time a shooting happens in America, “All gun owners are potential dangers to society!” Meanwhile, in Europe, “Not all muslims you bigot!” Isn’t it fun how predictable these people are?
You can disown your love of guns and they won’t try to kill you.
I’d be perfectly happy with the “Not all Muslims” defense if it weren’t for the fact that nearly every one of the psychos who end up snapping are already known to police, or recent migrants who weren’t thoroughly vetted. Okay, you’re right, it’s a tiny minority of Muslims, and even then you can’t seem to stop the violence.
I hate that the Left has made it such that my first thought after reading this is not sympathy for victims and anger at the perp itโs, โOh joy. Now I get to hear screeds about gun control 24/7 for the next couple weeks.โ
That was my first thought too. Fuck the world.
Yeah, I’m sitting here getting ready to mill out a lower and looking at a can of ammo. Awkward.
I hate that I have to reiterate how unlikely it is for a person in this country to be killed with a gun. There was a genuine tragedy, but through either ignorance or crass opportunism or both there are going to be people using this as a chance to attack your right to self-defense.
Not if you ignore social media and television news. Quitting Facebook was the best decision I ever made.
Ditto to thom. No facebook and no TV news makes life so much less stressful.
Amen. Me too.
“Fake Bus Stops For Alzheimerโs patients in Germany
Before this unique system was created the center frequently had been forced to rely on police to retrieve the Alzheimerโs patients who often wanted to go to homes and families that did not exist. After some careful observation, the staff at the center noticed a trend that escaped Alzheimer’s patients often headed directly to their only exit: public transportation. The theory of why this type of deception works is that in Alzheimerโs patients their short-term memory hardly works at all, but the long-term memory is still active. They know the green and yellow bus sign and remember that waiting there means they will go home.”
http://www.theiacp.org/Fake-Bus-Stops-For-Alzheimers-patients-in-Germany
That is pretty sad.
If the NHS get wind of this, some asshole at NICE will build special bus stops with woodchippers installed underneath them.
Still can’t believe the actually went and named it NICE.
+1 Orwell, grinning maniacally
I don’t know why I find this hilarious. Maybe I’m just a terrible person.
Dude, that’s a question you should never have to ask yourself.
My immediate take was actually that Monty Python Sketch about the Architect’s Presentation. I had to tone it down a bit for my reaction above.
NEEDZ MOAR SOCIALISMZ
Mohaan Biswas was speeding takeout orders to customers in London for the online food delivery start-up Deliveroo when he fell from his motorbike, breaking his foot in two places.
Because Deliveroo classifies its riders as self-employed, he received no sick time or insurance, and hasnโt been paid for the past six weeks as he recovers.
โIn a job you can negotiate with the boss โ we canโt do that,โ said Mr. Biswas, who had dragged himself on crutches to a demonstration against precarious forms of work recently in central London. โWeโre stuck in a perpetually insecure system, where we all get exploited.โ
Like thousands of people in Europe and the United States, Mr. Biswas, 24, was discovering an uncomfortable reality about the on-demand economy: He got a paycheck when there was enough work to go around, but had little to fall back on if there wasnโt.
Obviously, this poor man is nothing more than a slave. If only England had some Social Democrats to provide a safety net, instead of the unfettered dog-eat-dog capitalism which currently reigns.
“I’m self-employed when I want to be able to decide when I’m working. But when I break my foot I want to be someone else’s employee.”
Entitled bastard. You picked your trade-off, live with it.
Err if you are self employed you are supposed to buy yourself insurance and save money for a rainy day. Just like the business owners.
Sounds like the shooter was just a nut ball, no political affiliation. Which means the left and their media partners are going to go full on gun control.
That’s what his brother was saying, that he was a normal dude with no political or religious affiliation. He did, however, also say that they hadn’t kept in touch for a long time and were living in different parts of the country, but who knows? I’m leaning up towards straight up demented psychopath.
Milo marries black guy; Gawker struggles to find the strength to go on.
http://www.theroot.com/milo-yiannopoulos-married-a-black-man-1819052191
The ultimate cultural appropriation. Owning a whole black guy, all to yourself.
Why just one?
Milo: I love black guys, but I couldn’t eat more than one at a time.
“He may be the worlds biggest racist…”
Uh. I don’t… That just doesn’t… Come again?
Ditto.
no, the worlds biggest racist just married a different race. I think she could be right, but it really just shows that racism is ending.
The comments…
I see their predilection for exuberant overstatement has not been diminished.
“That’s a Clarence Thomas black guy, that doesn’t count! Fuck that house coon!”
/racist lefty
If ever there was any doubt that root commenters are nucking futs.
Yes, there is a special kind of arrogance right there…in that comment.
Err, shouldn’t he love himself more than he loves his skin color?
Not according to collectivists / tribalists / True Believers.
top notch, that author and the commenters.
Donald Malarkey, WWII paratrooper portrayed in HBO’s ‘Band of Brothers,’ dead at 96
“Malarkey is slang for “bullshit,” isn’t it? Rust on the butt-plate hinge spring, Private Bullshit – revoked.”
RIP
Milo marries black guy; Gawker struggles to find the strength to go on.
“Hey! That’s cheating!”
Me: Looks on Facebook while eating breakfast. Read that there was a shooting in Las Vegas. Immediately logged off of Facebook.
There’s going to be a lot of derp today.
Deleting the account makes things so much more tolerable.
I celebrate another day of never having an account in the first place.
I’ve actually considered it especially after the 2016 Presidential Election.
I deleted mine in May, and I haven’t looked back. The few folks I was afraid of losing contact with have been active over email.
Do it man. It’s just another useless artificial need that you will miss for one day and then wonder why you ever used it in the first place.
On the one hand, I want to wait for the facts before turning this into a political issue, but, on the other hand, the facts shouldn’t matter either way–if we’re talking about an emotional response that threatens our rights.
On the one hand, we shouldn’t respond to this emotionally, but on the other hand, not responding emotionally to tragedy is wrong.
Terrible tragedy. Condolences to the victims, their friends, and their families.
Feel sympathy for the victims because you’re a human being. And get ready to have to defend your rights against people who will use this as a lever. Sucks, but the second thing I thought when I heard about this was, “Time to send a few bucks to the NRA again.”
On the one hand, we shouldnโt respond to this emotionally, but on the other hand, not responding emotionally to tragedy is wrong.
Absolutely. The emotional response is natural. What isn’t natural is manipulating the emotional response into a “there should be a law” furor.
There are genuinely good people who are going to say that this is a reason guns should be illegal, because it’s a visceral reaction to tragedy against something that isn’t familiar to them. It’s like people who hear about a dog attack and say, “Pit bulls should be illegal!” Shit, I love guns, and if I thought you could prevent murder and violence and all bad things by banning them I’d be all for it. It’s normal to want an easy, obvious solution to problems. They don’t usually exist, but that doesn’t make the prospect less appealing.
And the people doing the manipulating only care about their pet issue, so they only cover obes that fit their narrative (so silence on Charlottesville church shooting) or the ones too big to ignore, but conveniently ignore or downay the stuff that runs against the narrative (Paris, Orlando.) What sickens me is things like a response to Orlando I saw where people were eagerly hoping it was a white Christian, and the same people lamented it was a Muslim because it would “feed into the right’s Islamaphobia.” For those kinds of people, the victims are just a bloody pulpit for them to screech louder.
how to pre-shame these fuckers into only killing themselves and not taking others along for their death ride? what about a “Spinless, Worthless Coward” monument where all these fuckers that can’t just suicide themselves in peace have their family names engraved for all eternity? the memorial is a statue of some guy on his back with a dog pissing on his face. and it doubles as a public urinal.
I’d donate to a fund to build that.
I’m afraid that wouldn’t help. Some are losers out on a power trip who wouldn’t care, while others might pull a herostratus specifically to have their names engraved forever.
forever on a monument for cowards with a guy getting golden showered by a dog? what if the dog was hot-lunching the statue?
DU hot take on the shooting
Bonus legal eagletry
lol
https://www.popehat.com/2012/09/19/three-generations-of-a-hackneyed-apologia-for-censorship-are-enough/
“Assault rifles are to the second amendment as yelling fire in a crowded theater is to the first amendment.”
That is correct. They are both canards.
Nice.
Of course, they even get their canard wrong, because they’re idiots. It wasn’t “yelling fire in a crowded theater”. It was “falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater.”
Yelling fire in a crowded theater that is on fire is actually a public service, you know. So I’ll say that, just as yelling fire in a crowded theater can be a public service, so can owning an “assault rifle”, a well-regulated militia being necessary, etc.
Falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater only happened when the projectionists union was targeting non-union theaters.
Commies want to confiscate guns. Imagine that.
The only thing confining Antifa to ultra-blue areas and tempering their actions is the second amendment. Of course DU wants the second A done away with.
Some mental illness
Yes, because it is well known open carry environments are a constant bulletstorm of death with skyhigh murder rates, as oposed to places with common sense gun control like Detroit, D.C., and New York.
That person is just plain stupid. I never felt unsafe in Niagara Falls, and I didn’t hear how much of a crime-riddled shithole it was until after I left. I would both be safer and feel safer in an open-carry environment. And New York has ROCK STUPID, EVIL LAWS!
When the miasma of yesterday’s horrible events dissipates, remind me to relate one of the #6 Clan’s experiences in Niagara.
I may have had the advantage of not wandering too far from the park.
Did you get to get Old Fort Niagara close up? I recommend it.
Yep. #6.2 is a history nut, Couldn’t have missed that.
“You cannot have freedom if society is fearful”
That is a non-sequitur if I’ve ever heard one. Whether you’re fearful or not has absolutely NOTHING to do with freedom. Nothing. Your mental state and civil liberties are utterly unrelated.
It’s unintentionally true. A paranoid society will curtail freedoms in the name of safety and security. What it is not, is a valid justification for doing so.
I’m not seeing the calls for banning 2A at HuffPo’s main story on the massacre. Did HuffPo edit the article and lower the bloody shirt?
http://5newsonline.com/2017/09/28/man-faces-attempted-murder-charge-in-alleged-vehicle-assault/
O.G. Marvin Million of Springdale is accused of running over Kayleigh Mahler, 19, of Fayetteville.
The name is hilarious
his birth cert says “O.G.”?
Reposting from last night’s links, because this shit burns me up: Trucking teamsters in Puerto Rico spent last week striking for higher pay. Trump’s “botched” effort to aid PR? Total fabrication by the left. I would love to know whether Mayor Cruz had a hand in prompting this: from what I hear, the teamsters wanted to embarrass the governor in retaliation for a policy affecting truckers signed into law under a month ago.
glad to see PR residents skeptical of the gas shortage claim by the union president.
A few of my FB friends have been passing around photos of the mayor wading in waist-deep water while selflessly performing relief work and totally not posing for any opportunistically staged propaganda shots.
be sure to post the one of her standing in front of pallets of relief supplies while complaining.
You just know CNN was champing at the bit to get down there with cameras and t-shirts and a crew of propagandists to set up shots. Fuckers really thought they’d make this another Katrina. The thing about Katrina was, neither Facebook nor Twitter nor most of the bevy of alternative news outlets existed yet. CNN et al. are playing by the old playbook, thinking they still have a lock on news distribution.
There were tons of local reporters covering this in puerto rico, and it was given total media-blackout in the US, in favor of focusing on Trump-tweets
Ah, so the truckers were striking after all. I’d asked Kristen (and the rest of y’all) about it a few days ago, and she felt it was a fake story. I leaned that way too—it certainly smelled like Team Red bait.
Interesting to see it was true.
I’m calling it here: this is going to be the make or break for the 2a. Either we get actual long term gun control or 2a weathers the storm and is basically untouchable for a generation. Buy your guns now cause this could be the big one.
I wish I had the money for an AR right now. That would round out my collection.
Buy a stripped lower pronto. You can get a aero precision lower for like 50 bucks. You can always build it up over time
So if you were to pick up a rifle, a shotgun, and a handgun today, what would you get?
Side question: I have a .308 hunting rifle. If I were to get an AR, would you recommend sticking with .308 to make stocking/reloading easier, or would you go for a .223 or something?
Additional side question: If you were to recommend a shottie for home defense, what would you recommed and/or what would you look for?
Just buy a load of 308 ammo for that hunting rifle, so you can get good at shooting and reloading at speed.
Shotgun? Mossberg pump, whatever style you like the looks of. Just make sure you go for a short-ish barrel.
Handgun? Something plastic with ubiquitous spares. I don’t *like* Glock, but a Glock would be fine.
You’re buying tools, not heirlooms.
.223. Cheaper and more ubiquitous ammo.
Get an ar 15, they are cheap plentiful and the most likely thing to be banned if the worst case happens. If you have money left over get an ar 10.
I wouldn’t worry about shotguns or handguns right now, those aren’t going anywhere.
Shotgun for home defense? 12 gauge pump. There are literally way to many to name but Mossberg is always a reliable choice. Don’t be afraid to buy a cheap shotgun, just put at least 100 rounds through it and make sure it works. The one thing I would look for us ghost ring sights or a rail for a red dot, 18 inch barrel, and 7 or 8 round capacity.
Stick with the .223 for home defense. I mean, get a shotgun, why not right? Hunting is fun, sporting clays are fun, and a 12 gauge with buck is as close as we get to an “off switch for people,” but the .223 carbine is better for HD for a variety of reasons.
What do you want to do with the handgun? Target, Concealed Carry, gun games?
Me? 16 inch AR in 5.56 with red dot. 1 in 7 or 8 barrel. Then a 9mm of some variety. Try before you buy. I like Glocks, so I’d get a 19 like everyone else. Finally, a semi (never grew up with pumps) in 12 gauge. Win 1300 or older Remi 1100. Benelli or Beretta if you’re loaded.
The PPQ/CCP feel great compared to the G19/43. at least to me. glocks do have every other gun beat when it comes aftermarket time.
I am broke, but a lower might come home.
A lot of members of the GOP know that they are endangered of getting primaried, especially after the health care debacle, so I think they are going to do whatever they can to protect the 2nd Amendment. But then again, I’m an optimist.
I think that this is quite true. I also think that deep down in their brains, the Democratic leadership (not the little people, but the Pelosis and Schumers of the world) know that going full derp on guns will kill their chances of ever having House majorities for some time, since they need pro-gun Blue Dogs.
You think way too highly of them
No. I think he’s right about that. But, I think they also know a large segment of their base wants gun control, political consequences be damned. For the leadership, the goal is all about acquiring and maintaining power. For much of the base, it really is about humiliating “those people”. It’s why any amount of studies showing that gun control doesn’t curb violence gets met with nothing but blank stares.
I think they are going to do whatever they can to protect the 2nd Amendment
The fuckers have sidelined concealed carry reciprocity and suppressor deregulation. I wouldn’t bet on it.
Apparently the latter is on the verge of being passed with strong majorities in the House. Again, though, the problem is the Senate. A few more RINO primaries will do the trick.
I can’t find a good answer as to whether reciprocity will help those of us living in no-issue states masquerading as may-issue states.
I get what it’s supposed to do for everyone else (Even if New Jersey will keep arresting lawful owners), but can’t figure out if it will have any impact on me one way or another.
There’s a couple states that you should be able to get an out of state CCW from with minimal difficulty. I believe Florida is one. VA may be another.
But how will FFLs react if I try to then go and buy something in the handgun range with it?
After all I didn’t Jump through all these hoops.
(Go ahead and read the forms if you want to weep).
I’m with Dean. Moreover, I’m not expecting Trump to hold the line if Congress really loses its spine on this one.
Insert deal-making dialogue here.
Why? This attack has nothing to do with gun control, mainly because the gun was quite likely to be a gun that was tightly regulated against civilian use to begin with. Whatever narrative that the Left is going to try to pull is not going to stick with the majority of “wrong-thinking” Americans.
Many anti-2nd Amendment arguments from the left these days seem to focus on the amount of guns that are out in the world. The argument being that whether a specific gun is illegal or not is irrelevant, police are simply overwhelmed by a massive number of firearms that has grown out of control.
I’m telling you all this right now, I am 1000% sure there were no fully auto weapons used in these attacks. They were either binary triggers, slide fire stocks, or handcrank. I have listened to multiple videos, I know what full auto sounds like and I know what bump fire sounds like and they were absolutely unquestionably bump fire.
Agreed. I am going with hand-crank given the fast/slow rate variation. Look for those devices to be nixed in the near future. Other than that gun control goes nowhere. See Wuncler above.
Can you give a quick explanation how these differ from full auto? I get handcrank, but not the other two.
bump fire uses the recoil from the firing of the round to aid the user in resetting the trigger. Fuck if I know what a binary trigger is
Binary: Fires once when you pull the trigger, fires again on release of trigger. Not high on my list of safe mechanisms.
One of my first firearms Fridays went over the differences. I’m on my phone on a plane so I can’t link it right now but go back through my articles on here and you’ll find it
Must have missed that one. I’ll find it, thanks
the make or break moment was five years ago when 20 cute innocent 5- and 6-year olds were massacred by some psycho with a Bushmaster.
This is going to make sandy hook look like a saturday night in chicago. Mark my words. I’m predicting 100 fatalities once the dust clears.
There will be more than 50, almost for certain.
yeah, but they were country music-loving rednecks. not saintly New England K and 1st graders. big difference.
Bullshit. I didn’t have to turn my guns in after a room full of dead kindergarten kids. You’re over reacting. Hop off the gun blogs and you will see that this isn’t going to make the end of the 2A either
Nothing will happen. A couple weeks of toothless bitching and whining from Democrats, then they’ll be right back to Trump and Russia and free everything for everyone.
I have everything that I want/need, plus more. I’m planning on going out this weekend and doing some impulse buying. Just in case.
I’m also going to throw my tinfoil hat on for a second. The first time the hearing protection act was to come up for a vote, the scalise shooting happened. It was supposed to come back up this week and now this happens. That is a miraculous coincidence, two high profile shootings occurring immediately before a high profile pro gun bill is to be voted on.
Keeping in mind necessary disclaimers about believing early reports and about believing fucking ISIS, ISIS has reportedly claimed responsibility, according to the AP.
Yeah I know a ton of white retirees that convert to radical militant Islam.
-No one
The politicization of everything continues.
For decades, advertisers have striven to stay away from any topic that might prove controversial or divisive. Times have changed.
That was a recurring theme during the recently concluded Advertising Week New York, an annual industry conference in Manhattan that has turned into its own global enterprise. (Next year, regional versions of the event will be held in Mexico City, London, Tokyo and Sydney.)
The responsibility of companies, particularly advertisers, to advocate on social issues and to provide a moral compass in a fraught political environment came up repeatedly during the week.
Yeah, good luck with that. Turn your goddam antifreeze ad into a “teaching moment” about gender fluidity. That’ll get me to buy it.
These folks keep pushing these sorts of initiatives. They’ll pat themselves on the back for their “bravery” in attacking someone or something that everyone else in their social network hates and then talk about how its a mystery that sales or viewership is down. Really, it’s not so much bravery as arrogance.
Some reporting now that the guy is a recent Muslim convert. Not sure if there is any truth to it, but ISIS is also claiming responsibility. Of course, they would if it’s true or not. I would have never suspected it, no sarcasm. Thought he would turn out to have a bad case of TDS or just a bad case of crazy. Anyway, if I were the fuzz, I’d be looking for the woman who was telling people they’re all going to die, like right now.
the irony being the Leftists will get their wish and this attack will be labeled “Terrorism”.
We should do two things.
Reject the ridiculous claim (I mean, really), and remind ourselves that ISIS are evil shits that need to be dealt with – not for Las Vegas – but for the many, many other atrocities they’ve perpetrated,
The Juice is loose (and is telling people to fuck off about his plans).
Well, we all should know what his plans are. He’s going to resume his hunt for the one-armed man.
He should start with his own kid.
Could be complete BS and ISIS stands nothing to lose by lying about this but…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/islamic-state-claims-las-vegas-attack-says-shooter-141433433.html
Bonus: after listening to some experts on the radio this morning (one ex-SEAL, one Marine infantryman), they both said that listening to the tape it was impossible that it was an AR-15 or M4. They both said they were certain that it was fully auto and either had a drum mag or was belt fed. Their guesses were an AK with a drum mag or possibly a belt fed M60. As it would be very, very difficult to get your hands on such a weapon unless you’re a dealer, I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility that he had help from a terrorist organization (like ISIS) to smuggle the weapon to him. Just a thought.
Hyperion beat me to it. Refresh Q, you moron!
Carl actually beat me to it, but 2 minutes or something…
I don’t actually believe it, yet. What I’d like to know is who was the person walking around the crowd saying everyone was going to die. Seems to be too odd to be a coincidence.
No, I think it was coincidence. It’s a sort of outburst I can easily see happening at other events where nothing goes down. It has to be looked at, but I don’t think it’s related.
It makes sense as a strategy: recruit under-the-radar crazies in your target country and supply them with weapons. Basically, weaponize the insane.
So ISIS taking a cue from the DNC?
Applying Occams Razor, far higher probability of being an AK. I can’t identify guns by their sound, least of all the footage we’re getting, but I’m pretty sure all the footage I heard had ‘breaks’ in the firing that might have been mag changes. You can get 30-round and larger mags for AKs and other kinds of battle rifle which would fit the bill.
Yeah I’m going to call bullsh, but nice try ISIS.
Maybe we should ban gatherings of more than fifty people.
Let’s just put everyone pre-emptively in prison. That way we can control what everyone does and there will be complete safety. For the children.
What we need are reasonable, common sense restrictions on travel and association.
*shrugs*
You know, you can stream music now.
I just watched trump talk about the meeting. It was non political. I think he did well.
the only way ISIS could start converting our OFWGs to do their killing for them is with poontang. copious amounts of poontang.
He’ll for enough sex slaves I’ll mow down the venue of your choice.
NOTE TO BOB FROM NSA: THIS IS SATIRE.
Well, he was in Vegas and ISIS has the money for prostitutes…
And as a bonus, he now gets 27 virgins. Or some number of virgins.
Yeah. Unfortunately for him, the sex of the virgins was never specified.
They’re all gender fluid tumblerinas and betas.
Trump speaks for 5 minutes, CNN will spend 2 hours analyzing it.
Listening to cosmic background radiation to drown out colleagues talking about Vegas.
Thank you, Penzias & Wilson!
Days like this I thank G-d for my almost completely apolitical office.
Dear bog, I wish mine was. I’ve only had 3 heads pop in to ask me my insta-opinion so far though.
Kristen porn
An Air France flight bound for Los Angeles from Paris made an emergency landing in Canada on Saturday after one of the jumbo jetโs four engines exploded in midair, passengers said.
Passengers aboard the double-decker Airbus A380, the worldโs largest passenger airliner, described hearing a loud noise about five hours into the flight. The plane, which had just crossed the southern tip of Greenland, vibrated for several minutes.
With photos. Yikes!
Saw that as it happened on FR24. And people ask me why I’m afraid to fly when I’m such an avgeek! Sheesh!
I’m always giddy for the first several seconds while we’re climbing, then totally relaxed after a few hundred feet when we reach the point at which any malfunction would probably be deadly. I don’t know why that is.
uhhh, you’ve got it a little backwards. The first few and last few seconds of the flight are the most dangerous as far as equipment malfunctions are concerned.
Yeah, but I’m the same way. I hate the ascent, it makes me really nervous for some reason. The descent on otoh, I’m completely relaxed. Probably mostly due to the fact that I know I’m soon getting out of that flying tin chicken coup for humans.
Usually by the descent I’m buzzed so that helps.
I’m typically buzzed before I board.
Fair point.
Kristen porn
It’s a pretty hairy situation.
No narrowed gaze, Swiss?
And it happened near Iceland too.
She won’t appreciate me ragging on Airbus (especially since I think that was a US-made Engine that shredded)
I don’t have a dog in the aircraft manufacturer fight. Love the A380 and the Beluga, but I also love the Dreamliner and the 747.
Mostly I pick on Airbus because of their association with the French.
I don’t know if I’ve ever been on a 380. I know I’ve never been on a dreamliner. Of flights I’ve taken, they’ve mostly been 767s and 747s. I think I once rode on a 777, but it might have been a 767 with a redone interior. Whichever it was, it was my favorite.
The plane I liked the least was a prop plane on a Philly-Salisbury hop. You had to walk right past the propellor on the way to the door. I can’t be certain if they were spinning at the time. Logic says they shouldn’t have been, but my memory of being distressed greatly by the experience says they were.
The thing about that prop plane you should like?
Bastard can glide a LONG way even if you lose all the engines.
I think the only passenger commercial jets I haven’t been on are the A340, A380, and 787. I am dying to experience the wing flex of the 787.
I remember coming back from Turkey in the mid-90’s when the 777 had just gone into service. There were videos screens in the back of all the seats!! It was nice, because it was a London-to-Los Angeles flight, non-stop.
They retrofitted those screens onto at least some of the 747s in the intervening years. (Half the time I tuned it to the ‘where are we now’ screen.)
That’s highly unusual. Engines typically flame out on takeoff or shortly thereafter, not well into a flight.
I’ve been on a flight that happened to. It was in a 757 during climb out at about 2000 feet. Sounded like a backfire. The whole cabin went from chatty to dead silent.
(also, disappointed this is not a nude Mike Rowe drone photo)
I’m as straight as they get, and I’d get a woody watching a nekid mike Rowe shotgun a drone.
It has 4 engines for a reason. I’d be much more panicky if it happened on one of the ubiquitous 737s I get on every domestic flight these days.
Remember when 737s used to fall right out of the sky on final approach because of a frozen servo in the rudder?
Good times, good times.
I’m literally on a 737 making final approach right now. SHUT. UP.
Did Vhyrus make it? We may never know…
HRH HRC is going full retard on Twitter. Like, 100 mph retard.
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again.”
She also said a “silencer” on these rifles would have resulted in more casualties, because the victims wouldn’t be able to hear anything.
She really is turning on the afterburners.
She also said a โsilencerโ on these rifles would have resulted in more casualties, because the victims wouldnโt be able to hear anything.
Because you then couldn’t hear the sonic booms from the bullets, that everyone at first thought were firecrackers, they were so loud. For fuck’s sake, the cell phone videos are right there! With sound and everything!
Evil cynical bitch.
It’s usually good form to put a paragraph or two in between the two parts of a naked, laughable contradiction.
What she means is complete confiscation. Except for hers, of course.
Yeah, old white ladies who have armed security for life at taxpayer expense shouldn’t throw stones.
Preventing Future Mass Shootings Like Las Vegas
The level of derp is mind blowing. Not one thing he mentions would have prevented a single mass shooting.
I hate it when they start calling for specific legislative actions to stop future mass shootings like X before we even know the details of X, and when the details come out the proposed laws would habe done nothing. I swear they have these types of articles prewritten, with a filler word for wherever the tragedy happened so they can quickly Find-and-replace it and get it out before the bodies cool.
“ban under 21 from buying guns” –wasn’t this guy kinda… old?
Not one thing he mentions would have prevented a single mass shooting.
Of course it wouldn’t. Nothing about his agenda has anything to do with this or any other mass shooting. Think about it. This was published within a couple of hours of the shooting. That includes the time for the editors to review it. The little fucker had the piece pre-written just waiting like a ghoul for the next psychotic to strike so he could push his agenda.
The interesting thing is that was an extremely take list, especially by nyt standards. He didn’t even mention magazine capacity or assault weapons.
I’m starting to think we may be legitimately winning the culture war on this one.
Take=tame
This year is the very first year that I can remember that the right has been winning the culture war (mainly because Trump, flaws and all, innately understands culture better than any political figure in recent memory). That bodes well for future policy, since policy is generally influenced by culture.
The comments there. Geez.
Oh. great. fucking bitch.
Thanks to Hollywood people think silencers sound like squeaky farts.
“Silencer, how quaint. Wasn’t that the role you were given to deal with your husbands ‘bimbo’ accusations?”
One of the responses.
Toastโ @CreedyMr 15m15 minutes ago
Replying to @HillaryClinton
Imagine if we had a silencer for YOU!!
Haven’t nearly all progressives already been schooled on how suppressors work? How is it that Clinton – their greatest hope in 2016 – can be so laughably behind the curve on this? One of her handlers should fire all of her other handlers and replace them with all new handlers.
Because she lies and the lies she tells are the lies her congregants want to hear.
Fire? What, like with a blowtorch?
How far was the guy shooting? 400+ yards? Anything that will effectively shoot that far wont be suppressed by a ‘silencer’. As usual she is completely full of shit.
Here’s a map showing the hotel and concert venue. On Google Earth, I get around 400 yards, depending on where he was in the hotel. If he’s in the arm closest to the venue, its under 300 yards.
“put politics aside and stand up to the NRA”
AND THEIR REPUBLIKKKIN PUPPETS!!!
Wow- Hillbot is getting savaged in the replies.
“Go back to the woods.”
“Wish we had a silencer for you.”
Penn and Teller on the 2nd seems relevant today. I wish the gun control people could wait even 24 full hours. people are still in surgery.
Sums it up pretty well.
“YouTube continues itโs harassment, censorship & demonetization of any video creator to the political right of Fidel Castro.”
http://milosexual.com/uncategorized/trans-phobic-bigots-at-youtube-demonetize-popular-transgender-blaire-white-msblairewhite-milosexual-alert/
Relevant:
https://twitter.com/andrealoko_/status/914797238643171328
If that’s her real picture, would.
Her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andrea.loko/
I just think it hilarious that there is a website analyzes Twitter accounts to see if someone is a troll. And sad that people are getting suspended/demonetized/etc. based on similar algorithmic crap.
Would confirmed.
“My heart goes out to those affected by this atrocious act. We live in a society where a guy can easily get at least ten (10+) assault rifles from his vehicle to a hotel room without attracting suspicion; at what point do we start admitting we have a problem?”
From my Derpbook
Time to cancel that account, man. For your own sanity.
I’m tempted to ask, “What law would have prevented this man from shooting the concert goers?”
Whenever you ask them that, they got all flustered and say, “But we have to do something.” And then have the nerve to freak out when you press them.
So what are we going to do? Only have one door for hotel entry and everyone has to pass through a checkpoint like at an airport every time they enter? I can 100% guarantee that if someone wants to, they can sneak all of that into a hotel room anywhere on the planet.
The troubling aspect of gun control advocates is that they know dick about guns or the laws used to regulate them.
Why do you think that isn’t true of advocates for a lot of other kinds of control?
Do you honestly believe that the politicians are any better informed about pharaceuticals? Foreign Policy? Domestic Security? The Economy?
some of those are just regulatory capture.
OK, so that’s something politicians DO understand, but apart from that ….
Troubling, but predictable. It’s always a black box for these people.
Healthcare is broken. Just pass the law that makes healthcare affordable!
We did, and it failed.
Okay, pass the law that makes healthcare universal, on the taxpayer dime!
We do that already for a whole lot of people between Medicare and Medicaid and the VA, and those programs are fiscal disasters. The latter two barely function.
Look, just pass the law that makes it all work, for free!
Look commodious, you just don’t get it.
We have to do something.
This is something.
Therefore, we have to do this.
My logic is airtight and if you disagree you’re clearly a Nazi bigot.
+1 Yes Minister
“fuck fire safety! One door to enter and exit! I want to know what is in everyones bags!”
We live in a society in which nobody blinks when a person rents a capacious u-haul, even though they could fill it with fertilizer and explosives and park it just about anywhere. At what point do we admit that renting trucks is a problem?
But that’s different. U-Hauls aren’t made to kill people. Guns are.
/sarc
Quoting myself from upthread:
“Letโs just put everyone pre-emptively in prison. That way we can control what everyone does and there will be complete safety. For the children.”
It’s the only way!
The honest answer is that the US needs to provide better care for, and identification of the mentally ill. This is likely to reduce, but not eliminate the likelihood of this kind of problem occurring. And for those who believe (as I do) that there is a political dimension to this, we need to address the toxic political atmosphere that is largely the responsibility of a press which has long since lost any pretensions to impartiality.
How we address the latter, without violating the NAP, is beyond me.
It’s already been done; use the market to create alternative press outlets. The dinosaur media just hasn’t died out yet, but they are accelerating their own demise by ripping off their mask.
Every year, I go on a late pheasant hunt around New Town, ND. The best place to stay is at the 4 Bears Casino. Cheap rooms and very nice. Places to eat on premise. I guess you could gamble there too if you are a weirdo.
Anyhow, lots of other hunters stay there too. The back door into the hotel area has a sign that says something about please put your guns into a case before bringing inside. (ND allows you to drive around with your gun uncased as long as a shell isn’t in the chamber).
So there are casinos where they have multiple customers coming in with weapons and nothing happens.
Non-Vegas-related: I was telling my young avocado-toast-eating colleague that I prefer to fly out of “National Airport”. He didn’t know what that was.
*sigh*
do you have something against avocado toast?
*hides breakfast*
Any reason a Millennial wouldn’t know that airport?
He knows it as “Reagan Airport”
Ah, I split the difference and all it Reagan National.
^ this
I’ve never heard it called anything else.
I do recall that, for years after it was renamed, Some People refused to use the R-word. And there may have even been unusual delays in highway signage, etc.
Idlewild for the win.
Avocado toast? WTF is that abomination?
Faster to just set your wallet on fire.
well for me, I start by getting my cast iron nice and warm. Throw bread into toaster. take half an avocado and cut it into small pieces. fry egg, sunny side up. spread avocado on toast, put egg on top. add salt and pepper. sometimes hot sauce.
What? No pineapple garnish?
That goes on my pizza. I can submit all sorts of millennial things here!
It’s time to replace your man card with a hipster card. Those two things don’t go together.
I think I can eat avocados and pull axels apart while listening to vinyl and wearing flannel sipping an IPA.
This is the world we live in now… I never though it would come to this.
And now I’m shopping for another gun.
Millennial shit on a shingle.
::Golf Clap::
Ha! I am stealing that.
I am betting none of the millennials know what SOS is.
It’s a song by ABBA
Is there anything left to even do this? I mean, maybe it’s easier for F2M then back to F, but your body’s gotta be so completely screwed up from all the hormonal alterations that you end up as the ever-popular genderless alien.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/gender-reversal-surgery-rise-arent-talking/
Try this if you’re paywalled:
http://archive.is/5WugQ
That didn’t work.
*sigh*
Ummm, Earth to Politico, this has been happening for decades through entryism. The fact that Trump is essentially equivalent to a Democrat from 30 years ago attests to this reality.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/01/could-americas-socialists-become-the-tea-party-of-the-left-215661
It would be gratifying if the Democrats as a party treated the socialists the same way the GOP treated the original Tea Partiers.
I think that one difference is that the Tea Party has a mature foundation; I think that they’ve learned a lot from the gaffe-prone candidates that they originally supported back in 2010 and 2012, while the DSA are mainly just neophyte millennial progs. The backing of mainstream-alternative media outlets like Breitbart also helps them, while the DSA lacks a HuffPo type of outlet to promote them in favor of an incumbent “Corporate Dem.”
On the other hand, DSA has got big money supporting it (Soros, et. al.) and the media outlets will come around. NYT is sending up trial balloons about how great Communism is, even the alphabet TV networks are lurching that direction. Tea Party was true grassroots semi-order from chaos. The new Left Socialists are astroturfed and controlled top down with tacit approval from the DNC.
Which is why they will fail. Seriously.
The DSA has old-school commies running the show. For example, Kurt Stand is on the steering committee of the DSA, as well as a couple of other committees. Back in the 80’s and early 90’s, he was on the national political committee of the DSA.
Kurt Stand got out of Jail in 2012 and is back in the mix. He is a convicted Stasi spy. The millennials are just the cannon fodder.
in good news, I 70 is shut down near vail. Winter is coming.
BLAMMO!
YAS!
Great pics out of Loveland, Arapahoe, and Copper this monring!
Still thinking about relocating?
100%…I’m going to get my CSM certification and bone of on some technical stuff, then start looking.
Nice. Always good to add an adventure once in awhile.
Oh, and you’ll get to see Doom and Q and Westernsloper all the time!
Oh, wait…
Abandon all hope ye who enter here.
I’m not that bad.
Don’t play pool for money with DenverJ!
I think it was 2 winters ago that I was skiing Copper on Halloween.
I usually get in at least one pre-October 25 day at A-basin.
The pics from Loveland & A Basin this morning are fucking amazing. Their snow stakes are completely covered. I bet they open as soon as they can get a skeleton staff in there.
“Officials deny Vegas shooter was linked to terror groups after ISIS claim responsibility and say gunman โconverted to Islam months agoโ”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4941092/ISIS-claim-responsibility-Vegas-shooting.html
“BREAKING: ISIS Claims Responsibility For Las Vegas Shooting”
https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/914865141300158465
ISIS claiming responsibility needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt at this point.
ISIS must really have a top-notch crash course if someone can go from conversion to the shoot-the-shit-out-of-everyone stage in a matter of months.
These hot takes are so retarded. How the fuck can anyone know one way or the other at this moment?
We basically have nothing right now. But I don’t think it’s a case of ‘he snapped’. The guy had a full arsenal in his room, this was planned.
His room overlooked a concert venue. maybe that was chance, I doubt it.
I doubt it too. Whatever his motive was, I think he had one. The guy went there planning to kill people.
That’s usually how these things go – with months and months of meticulous planning.
Yup. It’s also absolutely certain that he told someone about his plans. Rampage killers always do.
But the Daily Mail and Infowars are the best sources of news and information.
And by “news and information” I mean trashy pics of Bella Thorne and homosexual chemtrails.
Seems a little quick to deny any link. Shouldn’t officials say the investigation is ongoing and possible motives are being explored?
I just found out that my brother’s girlfriend was at that show with her sister. Luckily they are both fine (although I imagine completely shaken). They were near some bleachers and took cover under them shortly after the firing started. Fuck, what a fucked up individual.
Christ. Glad they’re ok.
But it’s great news they’re safe.
fuck. Glad they are ok and quick thinking. Glad the Riven clan is as well.
Thanks guys. She is a pretty smart and calm girl and her mom is SFPD so her reaction was the right one.
Good to hear they weren’t hit. Still, I hope they’re alright; even just being there when that shit happens can be traumatizing.
Glad to hear they’re OK. My wife told me that my sister in law had a ticket to the show, but gave it to a friend at the last minute. The friend was okay, but the girl next to the friend got shot. Needless to say, sister in law is pretty torn up about the whole situation.
Damn. I can imagine.
Does anyone care to try and assess how much of this is bullshit?
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/02/us-military-puerto-rico-215668
Lights Derpetologist signal.
On a quick scan, even assuming that their were military assets available to PR that were pulled back, the article lacks some critical context:
(1) Why were they pulled back? It seems unlikely that they reversed course because somebody wants to see Puerto Ricans suffer. Was it massive incompetence? Was it because there were no functional airports, ports, and distribution systems? Was it some other reason?
(2) How does this reconcile with the reports of aid piling up at ports of entry, with no local distribution networks (due, perhaps, to a tiff between the local trucker’s union and the governor)?
(3) In contrasting the speed and volume of aid to Florida and Texas with Puerto Rico, are there other factors in play? Like, say, the presence of large military bases in areas that get more aid faster? The ability to truck (and train) aid to places that aren’t islands?
its possible they’re treating just a logistical reality as intentional ‘delay’. how can you deliver relief if the roads/ports aren’t even functioning?
(1) Why were they pulled back?
I know the Air Force has a habit of moving planes out of a storm’s path for fear of damage. I imagine other services do the same with mobile assets.
Also, writer may be not be considering the contributions the National Guard made in TX and FL. Being state run, I would imagine both have a larger, better equipped NG that Puerto Rico.
No specific knowledge of Puerto Rico NG, but the federal oversight from the National Guard Bureau, i can’t imagine that they’re far behind any other state or territory. I do know that the NG there has been activated for aiding policing on the island as well.
The honest answer is that the US needs to provide better care for, and identification of the mentally ill.
Unfortunately, what may be obvious after the fact is not at all obvious before.
I am 100% certain we will be treated to a parade of neighbors and former co-workers declaiming, “I allus knowed thet guy weren’t right!” How many mostly harmless eccentrics are we willing to scoop up in our search for the next Dylan Roof (this guy has a name, but I don’t yet know it)?
I don’t mind the idea of harmless eccentrics being ‘scooped up’ as long as they’re released unharmed with their rights intact.
I also don’t have a prescription for how we achieve that. But it’s all I got.
I think the bigger risk of scooping up mentally ill people would be the government deeming any dissidents to be mentally ill.
A gay friend of the family was talking about needing to go about gun control that way a year ago or so. I brought up that being gay was thought to be a mental illness not that long ago.
He said yes, then made some assurance that it’s the future now.
“Dude, it’s 2017!”
He couldn’t even honestly admit “yes, there is a chance that using mental illness could lead to people who are ok to be deemed ill.” he wasn’t getting anywhere near adding that a political or social motivation could come into play.
Having a desire to defend yourself, or to possess a firearm, indicates mental illness, QED.
Correct Psycho Effer. The left will use the mental illness angle to confiscate guns. They have already done it. Obama declared SS recipients who ‘lack the mental capacity to manage their own affairs’ unable to purchase firearms.
If anyone thinks the left wont expand the definition of mental illness infinitely then I have a mental hospital in the Soviet Union to sell them.
This is where I am on this. I’m not ready to start reducing constitutional rights for people with particular diagnoses, or odd behavior or prescriptions for psychotropics. I also don’t want to loosen involuntary commitment laws.
Unpopular as it may be, I still land on:
“Freedom comes with a price; that price is sometimes evil individuals will abuse that freedom. We cannot throw away that which is most precious to us, our liberty, for the sake of illusory security. If you are concerned about those evil individuals, exercise the freedom you have in a responsible way and arm yourself so that you may defend against those evil people.”
Amen.
Who wrote that?
Me.
*respect*
Broken clock, monkeys banging on typewriters, etc.
Guy’s brother was just on the CNN. Pretty much the old “He was a normal guy. Had a coupla guns, but nothing noteworthy.”
Oh god, CNN was on in the break room at work… I try to block it out, but I heard the anchor saying, “we’re trying to find out if he was a gun buff and what kind of guns he owned…” They’ve already got their narrative planned out.
They have that narrative prewritten at all times; they just have to fill in the names and the number of victims.
Brother says they need to find out who gave/sold him the guns. As if that person is the real criminal here.
The brother first of all says that they live 2000 miles apart and he never sees the guy, but they talk sometimes, but infrequently. Then he appears to know the guy’s political beliefs, saying he has none, which is a little odd. But then he also claims to know what guns the guy owns and how he uses them. So my question is how does he know all these details about someone he never sees and rarely even speaks with?
Yeah, something’s fishy with this family.
On the CNN interview, the Fibbies showed up just as they were ending the interview.
Holy shit. The brother is behind it all! It’s a conspiracy!
+1 John David Stutts
I have no idea who this is.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4939928/Grace-Van-Patten-dons-pink-gown-slit-thigh-screening.html
But you want to know more?
I’d like to have a lively debate about contemporary virtue ethics with her.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
360ยฐ video of Kosciuszko Bridge demolition.
https://reason.com/blog/2017/10/02/smith-gets-lecture-on-libertarians
ENB got kicked off a college campus. Do you think she’ll reassess her milquetoast support of free speech and think twice before smearing others? Nah. She’s going to virtue signal more.
This article started out OK, but then she asserted “racist fever swamps like LewRockwell.com”. I hate that I have to say this, but I do not read Lew Rockwell (primarily because I find his analysis to be repetitive and unoriginal). But, I doubt that ENB has ever read anything by Lew Rockwell, the Mises Institute, antiwar.com, or anything not cosmotarian. What a garbage person ENB is
So, she’s as bad as Sargon of Akkad then ….
I don’t get the reference
YouTube personality. Occasionally makes good points but can’t get over the virtue signaling stuff.
Notably harangued at a recent convention by everyone’s favorite feminist, Anita Sarkesian.
Now there’s a garbage person
She’s just a lefty who’s found a cool niche to throw moral superiority at a larger cross section of people.
She’s not a garbage person.
Prove it.
See, this is how assertions work. She claims people to be racist and they have no way of proving her wrong. Now I call her a garbage person, well there is no way to disprove that, so the sentiment stands.
It’s arguing by definition. Regardless, she has done some excellent investigative journalism, and stood up for important but unpopular positions. She’s also said things that were wrong. Nobody is perfect.
Nothing written in Reason is terribly unpopular today in the mainstream. Reason follows the prescribed narrative. There is absolutely nothing brave that is written there anymore.
Robbie’s article questioning the authenticity of the Rolling Stone rape article was the last unpopular thing that has been written there.
reminder: he didn’t, until Bradley and others had already made points that made it obvious there were problems.
in his first article, he was not only 100% credulous, he went further than the article, claiming UVA had enabled a ‘a culture of seemingly rampant sexual assault’
meanwhile, everyone in the comments was calling bullshit on it on Day 1. it took him another week.
I stand corrected. Judging from the comments, it would appear that Gilmore was the first to push back on the narrative.
I thought for sure that Robbie cast doubt on it to begin with, but like all things Robbie, I am disappointed, yet not surprised
It’s the Ron Paul Newsletters of TOS.
I’d throw Bailey’s “mandatory health insurance” articles in with them.
no, i was really just busting Robby’s balls for going overboard on ‘joining with the story’s condemnation’. I busted Robby’s balls all the time anyway.
there were others there (JWatts, Bill Dalasio, Mad Casual et al) who openly stated that the entire story sounded fabricated. I ended up agreeing with them, but i wasn’t the first to say so.
ENB has spent the last couple months smearing anyone who doesn’t kowtow to her views as ‘alt-right’ or ‘racist’, while showing that the moment she gets any degree of social power she uses it to self-righteously attack people. Regardless of any actual reporting she’s shown herself to have a completely garbage personality.
Agreed.
I have to go with this. She’s shown a stunning lack of character and it looks like her only support for liberty is liberty for things she likes.
I clicked so you don’t have to. The end of the article is this:
I’m not a habitue of the right-wing fever swamps, but at least she makes a distinction between collectivism on the right and libertarianism. Now, if only she could have pivoted to her left and made the same point . . . .
Fair enough, I would say.
Again, not bad as far as it goes. But, again, the finger of shame only points right. Perhaps other collectivist outgrowths with “libertarian ” pedigrees from other parts of the spectrum could be identified? Why not add ObamaCare as a lineal descendant of a Cato whitepaper? Why not add, for that matter, the fact that the current insanity on campus can be traced back to the corruption of equal rights before the law -> affirmative action/equal outcomes -> hostile work environments -> safe spaces?\
As an attempt to distance from right wing collectivism, its not bad. The blind spot for left wing collectivism is telling, though, especially as it leaves open the implication that banning right-wing collectivist wrong-think is A-OK. Just don’t include me!
I fail to see what collectivism is being advocated by the religious right. ENB’s whole article can be summed up like this: “She’s says that libertarians are just as racist as conservatives as a whole. We aren’t racist like them. But, there are wrong-think libertarians who are totes racist, like Lew Rockwell. I love abortion and marriage equality! Don’t shout me down, please”
That about sums it up
It strikes me as a fear of standing alone as a true individualist. You either have principles or you don’t. If you’re not willing to stand up and tell people that are violating your principles that they’re fundamentally wrong and not just mistaken about you, then you’re not principled.
Nailed it.
Yep.
It is always surprising to me how so many people are just critters of the herd. They crave being part of the collective to some degree. I dont get it. I have no problem giving the finger to the whole world. I couldn’t give less of a shit who agrees with me or doesnt. I do try to be right and wont hesitate to admit being wrong but I am not ever going to say something just to be accepted.
Anyone who doesnt like that can go fuck themselves.
*spits*
I get it. I wish I gave fewer fucks, and I admire those who do, but I have a predilection to want to be liked and to avoid confrontation. That, combined with my congenital contrarianism, means I just stay quiet and outwardly agreeable most of the time. Unfortunately, that leads to bottling some shit up, and it certainly pops off at times.
I wouldn’t even care about (right-wing) collectivism being ADVOCATED. It’s when it’s being LEGISLATED that I get pissed off about it.
The problem with ENB and others on the Koch side are that they have a blind spot when it comes to things like accommodation laws. Reason and Cato have been rather incoherent on that – it manifests itself as the silly “You MUST bake cakes for gay weddings but you CANNOT be forced to write pro-gay comments on them” compromise.
“Racist fever swamps like LewRockwell.com”
Citation needed.
It’s the same citation as always. Octogenarian Rothbard and maybe something Lew wrote in a Ron Paul newsletter once.
Embarrassing and distasteful, yes. But nowhere near as anti-libertarian as the typical Dalmia or Bailey screed.
Not to mention nowhere near as bigoted as Dalmia.
Here’s the thing: I can ally with people, even those with a bigoted points of view, so long as they’re in favor of the uniform application of rule of law and scaling back the role and demesne of government. I can’t do that with people who profess absolute tolerance and are willing to curtail my rights in order to bring about utopia. Would I prefer political allies with total unanimity where race, etc. is concerned? Well, sure. It’s just that the people who believe they have a lock on that mindset are also fucking Communists.
And also closet racists toward whites.
I’d rather not associate with racists, as that is a collectivist ideology. But, the label ‘racist’ has been used so liberally that it really doesn’t even mean anything anymore. I fail to see how LewRockwell.com is a fever swamp of racism, other than the fact that the Kochs so deem it
I continue to maintain that even among self-professed “alt-right”, the racist element is pretty small. I have no hard numbers to back that up, so take it with a grain of salt. However, I believe calling the alt-right racist Nazis is just the same old smear playbook of the Left; they are threatened by the alt-right because they are using the Left’s kulturkampf tactics against them and so they must be destroyed.
After a while, when being called a “racist” lost it’s sting, the left had to out-Hitler Hitler.
And so they picked up on the Alt-Right, because fortuitously, a very small number of the self-professed ‘Alt Right’ actually talked like Hitler.
Want to know who else talks like Hitler? Everyone on the left.
Remember during the G20 riots someone trolled the rioters by reading Hitler speeches and the rioters went mad cheering? They have tried so hard to distance themselves from him that they forgot what he really was: one of them.
Luckily none of my friends in Vegas are country music fans, so I wasn’t too worried. But I checked on them on facebook and they are safe. One of them was in lockdown all night because he works at Mandalay Bay though.
Good to hear
Good to hear of your friends’ safety. I was on the computer last night at 10:30 pm making plane/hotel reservations for a wedding I’m headed to on Friday. The reception is at…. Mandalay Bay. I read some tripadvisor reviews, which steered me toward the Bellagio.
Every time I see “Bellagio” I read it as “Fellatio”.
Well, that’d improve the rating on tripadvisor then.
Must admit, the trip I made to Vegas was interesting, but not something I’d want to do regularly. Not my kind of place. We stayed at the Bellagio, did all the touristy-stuff you’re expected to do on- and off- the strip, blew $10 on the machines, and that was it.
Got into trouble at the airport allowing my daughter to watch me pulling the handle on one of the machines they have there. Spent most of the flight back smdh’ing.
My guess is that the tripadvisor reviews are even worse now.
Coming soon to a high-rise hotel near you: Policies that don’t allow you to select the location/view of your room.
This really should’ve been a new comment down below, but I’m stupid at the Internet.
Well now Jason Bourne’s never gonna figure out who he is.
Haven’t stayed at Bellagio for quite awhile. Last time we were there we stayed at the Delano. I liked it a lot.
my bow hunting friends on derpbook are enjoying a healthy laugh over this…
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2017/09/27/disney-releases-promotional-photo-of-hawkeye-holding-a-bow-like-an-idiot
“Today, set your sights on another sensational Super Hero โ Hawkeye,” says the blog. The only problem is that Hawkeye, “the worldโs most talented archer and marksman,” is holding a bow like a damn fool.
Whoa. What the hell is that?
And its current adherants have been vociferous opponents of alt-right bigotry and populist nationalism more broadly.
Those “current adherents” being she (ENB) and E Soave, presumably; liberaltarians.
Cosmotarians. They care not for smaller government or individual rights. Their ideology is centered around ‘free trade’ and ‘open immigration’ and that is it. A rather shitty ideology.
I wish someone would point to some of this rampant alt-right bigotry that seems to be e everywhere yet nowhere all at once. And no, I dont mean send me photos of Brad Pitt with a secret Nazi haircut like ENB did. I am old enough to remember actual KKK marches. I know what rampant racism looks like and I am just not seeing it on the right today. The left, now thats a different story.
Just about sums it up:
“Activist groups were vocal critics of slaps on the wrists for players abusing their wives or girlfriends. But left-wing activist groups donโt stop, ever. Even when something is (eventually) made right and harsher penalties were handed out. Because they can fundraise off of it and, equally as important to them, they hate professional sports. Activist liberals always have hated sports, even when they use it. They hate competition โ championing ending scorekeeping in youth sports โ because there are winners and losers, and they hate meritocracy.”
https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2017/09/28/the-slow-death-of-the-nfl-n2387297
They also hate anything that teaches core American values.
This bullshit with ENB’s frantic social signalling about how she’s one of the good ones has put the image of Liza Doolittle yowling, “I’m a good girl, I am!” in my head.
Attorney for CBS happily thrusts her neck onto the chopping block.
I’m hesitant to call it analogous to saying “they deserved it,” but regardless, it’s loathsome and moronic.
Wow.
Oh, well. The world needs ditch diggers, too.
it’s close, but you’re right.
You know who else deserved it?
#22 in Q’s links?
*Scrolls up, re-looks at #22*
Yes. Yes, she does.
That girl wearing the short skirt?
Or guy. Let’s not discriminate.
…and nothing else happened.
My girlfriend used to do PR for CBS News. I’m guessing she’s glad she doesn’t have that gig right now.
This bitch just said that people who listen to country music probably don’t share her political views and so deserve to be shot to death, but gun owners are the bad guys. Right. I hope she gets cancer.
Also, this is how you get Trump. I would vote for zombie Hitler if I thought it would drive people like this to suicidal despair.
This article is mendaciously written. The stuff she said is bad on its own. Red State doesn’t need to lie to get people fired up.
Jesus. Fake news e’rywhere.
She got canned.
More evidence that the market works. Sometimes.
I am not much on cryptic language. ‘They deserved it’ is exactly what she said. No point in pretending she didn’t.
It’s not, though. What she said was pretty repugnant on its own, no need to fabricate its meaning.
His room overlooked a concert venue. maybe that was chance, I doubt it.
I cannot comment until I know who was playing.
Jason aldean
It’s time to change the channel when the CNN screen looks like this.
they look like they’re ready to scold the fuck out of viewers everywhere. /click
Hmmmm…. interesting proposition
So, we know what they are, AND we know their price.
Not really. Votes are utterly worthless, while a student loan payment is worth a great deal.
If you owed more than 1 cent on your student loans, you’d be an idiot not to take the deal.
But the votes of millions of millenials with college debt as a group is priceless. I say we do it. Get those voters and their issues out of politics for eight years and focus on policy changes that would generate in excess of $1.4T in economic activity.
I’m more interested in those morons who wouldn’t take the deal. How many of them do you think are Bern Victims? Remember how many of them donated the rest of their student loan money thinking it would pay off when they get a whole bunch of free shit?
I like it!
Presidential vote doesn’t mean much anyway. Give up 8 years of state and local election voting rights and I’d consider.
I would also vote for them to do that.
I paid my way out.
The bigger concern to me is fixing the situation that encourages new students to go into debt first, just like immigration.
No amnesty until there’s a program in place that stops future amnesties being required.
Address the causes, not the effects? Madness
And the fun part being that the pay-down will be funded out of the national debt anyway, so that ‘forgiveness’ just becomes a debt that they won’t be able to repay as taxpayers.
Me? I’d love to be offered a get-out-of-tax deal where I pay off my family’s share of the national debt, free and clear, and then get on a new “revenue-neutral” tax program. But that ain’t gonna happen.
I’d forfeit my right to vote permanently to avoid income tax for the rest of my life.
Can’t do that. I’m an Alien (no, not *that* kind). And I’m staying that way so I’m exempt from FATCA’s punishment of citizens,
Little known fact, Number 6 is actually a Xenomorph. The latest generations do their best to fit in.
I’m not really an oppressed minority, but at least I’m higher up in the victimhood hierarchy than you white cis-guys.
Now THIS is worthy of a GoFundMe campaign.
This assumes they were going to vote in the first place, and odds are they won’t.
Only 46% of Millennials vote anyway, their turnout is the lowest among all age groups.
Jason aldean
I know nothing of this person. Had it been Hank III, the performers on stage would likely have returned fire.
Hank III’s “Country Heroes” is a great song. Even for those who hate country music.
I originally suspected Hank III as the shooter.
So today really is a shit day. I just got word from Holger on discord that his wife passed suddenly last night. Sepsis caused by blood clot in small intestine. He’s gonna be offline for a few days.
That’s horrible. Send him my sympathies.
Awful.
oh fuck.
Holger, we are with you. I’m so sorry.
Oh, geez! My sympathies to him.
Ugh. There are only so many ways to express condolences on a day like this, but condolences to Holger and everyone he holds dear at this difficult time.
Shit. Condolences.
Condolences.
Awful. Please let him know I am really sorry.
Christ. So sorry to hear this, Holger.
Wow. Heartfelt condolences to Holger.
Condolences. Damn.
So sorry to hear that.
Condolences.
Condolences.
Fucking terrible. Sudden deaths are horrible. My sympathies.
That’s awful. He has my condolences.
Damn, I’m sorry to hear that. My condolences.
Gosh. Horrible.
Absolutely awful. I’m so sorry to hear this. Word are pretty much meaningless at times like this, but my sincere condolences to Holger.
That is freaking horrible. Just awful.
Condolences to Holger.
Condolences
Sorry to hear that.
Oh wow. That’s terrible. Let him know we are all thinking of him.
My thoughts and condolences to Holger.
Please pass on my condolences. Thanks!
Sorry.
Condolences, Holger. God dammit.
So what other groups take blood other than the red cross? I imagine the need for blood just went up.
The IRS
That’s flesh, not blood.
Usually more than a pound though.
The DNC usually likes their blood donations soaked into shirts that they can wave over a body of warm corpses.
ok ok, to donate, dickheads.
If we catch you donating dickheads, mister, we’re going to be inquiring into just where and from whom you acquired those.
I’m not that morgue worker!
Probably of GM source (NSFW unless you consider SF’s stuff is SFW)
So much for the ‘Family Friendly’ credentials.
Mark Zuckerberg?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/02/after-las-vegas-democrats-are-jumping-straight-into-the-gun-control-debate/
“After Vegas, democrats are jumping straight into gun control debate.”
After Vegas? AFTER VEGAS?! We don’t even have a final body count and these fucking vultures are already rubbing themselves raw over it. Fuck these vermin.
After, during, before. what’s the difference?
Just start the music again and let them dance in the blood.
People are pointing out how similar this is to the staged shooting at the beginning of Enemies Foreign And Domestic.
It’s called staying on offense which Team Red seems completely inadequate for
Sounds like they are just following the protocol.
This. It’s expected behaviour. If you believe gun control is a solution the obvious result is that before the bodies are even cold you stand on top of them and smugly go “see, if you people would just listen to me!!!!”
But Democrats don’t really have a choice but to go hard after gun laws in the wake of a headline-grabbing shooting. They are fresh off an election year during which gun control took center stage in many of their campaigns. Hillary Clinton made it a piece of her platform in a way no modern Democratic presidential candidate has.
and lose. and lose again. and lose some more.
at what point do Dems realize gun control is a losing issue?
In Congress, victory will almost certainly be measured by how long it takes to hold off defeat on silencer and concealed-carry legislation.
“hold off defeat”
gotta say i like her optimism.
“at what point do Dems realize gun control is a losing issue?”
I’m going with never.
I wonder how antifa and the like are going to factor in to the perceptions of gun control in the near future. There’s plenty of less media-savvy people who know next to nothing about them, but having violent rioters attack people and police do nothing is sure to at least drive some people into the realization that they don’t want to lose their self-defense if they can be openly attacked without it.
No you see antifa was just defending themselves and other oppressed allies against the evil hordes of shitlord nazis and their hate speech. Punching a guy for wearing a piece of cloth is totally self defense
I remember something like this from way back. The lefties were saying that they don’t need any icky guns right now, but when the right wing extremists eventually decide to start the civil war, because racism, the government will have special stashes of weapons hidden where only good liberals will know where to find them. I couldn’t even make that up, it’s so dumb.
You mean like (((leprechaun))) gold caches?
We need to keep this rumor alive. It will make the coming purges so much simpler.
I’m not seeing helicopter ownership anywhere in the Constitution…
What does one do with a single Carolina Reaper pepper? Should I dry it and put it in with my dried Habaneros?
Dry it out and make a pendant out of it like this.
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Given the size of the pendant, she must had an issue with it getting caught in her zipper.
A single Carolina reaper is like a single block of c4. You can do a lot with it.
Eat it raw and pray.
I think my price on eating it raw would be about $5 million
If you like spicy food, that one pepper will be more then enough to heat up an entire pot of something. Treat it carefully, and either wear gloves or wash your hands very well after touching it.
practical jokes.
*grind into fine powder, and apply to friend’s lipstick / sprinkle on their sandwich when they’re distracted
…pretty sure that’s a crime.
what a little crime between friends!? provided they don’t have a heart-condition.
I add 1/2 chopped up Reaper to a jar of marina sauce and simmer for 30 minutes for a spicy sauce. For me, a whole pepper in the sauce might be too much.
I’ll usually cook up 1 lb of ground meat and veggies first then add sauce and the pepper for an easy 1 skillet type meal.
When I worked in a restaurant, back in the day, we had a chef, and when the waitresses and me and the wine people, et. al. would be gathered in the kitchen so he couldn’t hear well or were just getting in his way, he’d take a dried pepper like that and stick the tail end of it in the gas fire on the stove.
It had an almost immediate effect on . . . white bread Caucasians, like myself, that was similar to what I imagine it would be like to take pepper spray in the face. .Eyes burning and itching like worse than chopping onions. It would clear the kitchen immediately.
I’d use it for that–clearing the kitchen when the girlfriend unit’s sister is there, etc.
Also, if you dry it and put it in olive oil, it’ll infuse the olive oil with its spiciness and make that flavor more palatable for use in anything that uses olive oil.
It’s hard to use just a little bid of a really hot pepper. Anybody that gets the kernel will feel it and have a hard time tomorrow. Put it in oil, and not only can you dodge those concentrated pieces but you can evenly disperse the hotness in a dish, as well.
. . . or accidentally give it to your girlfriend’s sister instead of salad dressing.
yeah, from a practical matter i think this is the right call. Make an infusion of Reaper, and apply dabs of it when needed.
*it does not rule out also doing practical jokes.
apply dabs of it when needed.
Screams out for proper practical jokes.
/burning underwear
One of my most horrifyingly successful practical jokes was taking my little brother’s underwear, and smearing ben-gay / Icy-hot in like 4 or 5 pairs.
the next day i heard shrieking coming from his room. he responded to the initial burning sensation by grabbing and rubbing his balls, which only spread the stuff around. I didn’t even confess for the first few minutes because i felt so bad. It was far more effective than i could have imagined.
And yet you are still alive.
This is what little brothers are for.
Somebody put Tiger Balm in one of my fellow wrestler’s jocks…
Medical attention was required.
Nobody ever fessed up.
When I was in HS basketball, there was an Icy-Hot in the jock incident. They managed to do it so close to game time that the victim was out on the floor for pre-game warmups before it really hit him.
That is a terrible thing to do. He should have murdered you in your sleep after that.
I did it in response to something. what, i can’t remember, but it must have been bad.
if you did not grow up with brothers, it may be difficult to understand
It’s hard not to get political about a tragedy when politicians are getting so political about it.
I’m not saying this tragedy is why would should or shouldn’t do anything, but I am saying that what Hillary Clinton said about this tragedy is an excellent reason why it’s a good thing that she’s not the President of the United States.
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/914853632083877888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Freason.com%2Fblog
That’s typical clintonesque double-talk. “We can and must put politics aside”–and get politically involved–all in the same sentence.
She makes Obama look like an amateur on double-talk and never letting a crisis “go to waste”.
Whatever we do or don’t do about gun rights, I’m glad Hillary Clinton isn’t out President. She’s unfit to lead a troop of girl scouts.
She’s give them fancy necklaces and send them out over a minefield if it would help her get power.
Think about what it means to tell people that their “grief isn’t enough”.
I wouldn’t care if she were for or against the Second Amendment–that’s a nasty thing to say to people regardless.
Fuck her.
This guy died shielding his wife.
But I’m sure her grief isn’t sufficient.
It’s so offensive.
“Your loved ones’ deaths are irrelevant unless we can do something that benefits my party politically”
Well, I mean, they do have the fact that the United States is the only country on earth where people get shot with guns, on their side. You really can’t argue with:
USA – only country where you can buy guns from vending machines for pocket change = Only country where anyone is ever shot with a gun.
Defend that, Trumpet!
Meanwhile Trumps’s tweets, far as I know, have been nothing but respectful.
If the choice were between The Donald and some other more capitalist candidate, . . .
But every time I see Trump and Hillary side by side, she comes across as the insensitive dolt.
Deplorables!
Are you saying it wouldn’t be better if he faked some tears and then jumped on top the pile of still warm bodies to make political points?
“Why don’t the newscasters cry when they read about people who die? Least they could be decent enough to put a tear in their eye.”
Robotic whores have been around a lot longer than we realize.
For the benefit of the children, we must stop making emotional appeals.
Hillary, you mendacious cunt, the NRA didn’t kill those people. And when I say “mendacious”, I refer specifically to your implication that the victims of that lunatic died because of the fact that Americans have the right to own firearms enshrined in the Bill of Rights, and that the NRA’s role as a PAC has some sort of causal relationship.
Jagr has a job!
But the question is, who is Jagr?
Slow down, I haven’t even figured out who John Galt is yet.
He’s some libertarian figment of that far right extremist, Ayn Rand’s, imagination.
+50 pages of speechifying
There’s only one Jagr.
And he practically owns the copyright to his haircut.
Jagr is the Nolan Ryan of hockey.
https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2017/10/2/16401060/how-old-is-jaromir-jagr-matthew-tkachuk-calgary-flames-keith-tkachuk-1990-nhl-draft
Jagr has been playing for 27 years.
Motherfucker helped dagger my North Stars in 1991.
And he’s only five years younger than me, playing in the NHL, banging models and loving life.
Prick.
He was drafted before I was born.
Same here, kind of scary. Jagr has stated that he’s going to try to play professional hockey in his 50s. If anyone can do it, it’s him.
+1 “Old Man Strength”
He has a pretty impressive line up of former bedpost notches.
He’s one of the good guys in the big robot suits in Pacific Rim?
He was the guy that would come to DC and inspire such hate in the stands at US Air Arena, yes? I think I saw him play once or twice in the 90’s, after the Caps had moved downtown.
Vegas shooter’s father was a notorious bank robber.
I saw that, he was on the FBI’s most wanted list. Seems to have nothing to do with this, but a weird factoid none the less.
Stop it, Hyp. Today has been shitty enough without you dissing one of the best hockey players of ll time.
And this.
So, so well played, Jaromir!
I don’t know nothing about Canadian sportsball, except they beat each other over the head with some sort of stick until one of them falls down on some ice.
Yes, it is beautiful.
Unlike my Gilmore-ing.
The new memes are starting
Love it.
No, you drop your stick and gloves, THEN beat the shit out of them.
Genetics wins again?
Who can keep track of those Canadian teams?
I’m about to land in Tampa and the pilot is dropping altitude so fast you’d think we were evading anti aircraft fire. I haven’t popped my ears this many times in a minute before.
What is it with pilots in Florida? I had a flight from Orlando to Miami a few years back plane took off like a rocket and dove into Miami. Passengers were screaming. Maybe being in the air too long above Florida turns you into a Florida Man?
Some airports regulate ‘sound abatement’ so that pilots have to drop like a stone.
John Wayne used to be terrifying if you had to come in from the landward side. Been many years since I’ve flown there though.
Airlines like the continuous descent as it saves them fuel… power off from altitude, glide to the airport.
Now if he was on SWA5054, that did 2500fpm for a couple of times, and was following the FOOXX FOUR arrival landing north.
Diagram here:
http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1710/00416FOOXX.PDF
It’s the meth vapors rising.
Cause they’re gonna do it anyway?
http://www.yourtango.com/2017307100/should-you-let-your-teen-have-sex-home-one-mom-says-yes
She’s talking about letting her son bang his girlfriend at home.
When the parents of the girlfriend eventually find out about it, what kind of litigation does she open herself up to? She mentions 13-14 year olds in the article.
I’d have probably lost my mind, were it my daughter.
She seems rather glib (drink!) about the whole thing. “Well we know that promotion of abstinence is a waste of time and he’s gonna do it anyway and who is he gonna talk to when his little slut needs an abortion so I might as well just look the other way!” Great parenting lady.
Bonus: Is there a father in the house?
Nobody seems to want to point out that the teen pregnancy rate is plummeting at the same rate as the teen having sex rate.
I think we’re confusing government programs on abstinence (which like most government programs are a waste of time) with actually having children that have values, hopes, and dreams.
Well, the overwhelming availability of pornography probably has something to do with it.
That’s a new theory. I will have to ponder this.
When I was in high school, I found a book in the library that claimed that pornography was actually a good thing because it facilitated men who might rape to get off more frequently, thus lessening their drive to go out and rape. I don’t really buy the argument now, but it was profound to me at the time, since it was so far from what I’d ever consider. So I relayed the claim to my friends in the vicinity of my other classmates, and I remember a girl having the most repulsed look in reaction. I jumped to supplement, “Yeah, it’s total bullshit. I don’t buy it. I just read it, heh heh.”
And then I became a libertarian.
tl;dr: rape; became libertarian.
Pondering pornography?
That’s never happened around here before.
Providing a venue for statutory rape? Doesn’t sound so different to hosting a keg party for your high school kid.
Certainly opens the door for a visit by the CPS, if not (as Bobarian says below) for a coupla hard, pipe-hittin’ parents.
Discretion on the issue, if she wanted to facilitate a liaison, would have been to not brag about it.
We should have alcohol education in schools predicated on the fact that the kids are going to drink anyway, so teach them to drink safely.
Maybe not in school, but I do think the forbidden fruit aspect helps the irresponsible binge drinking issue in college. Lower the drinking age back to something reasonable (if you can get shot at for your country, you’re old enough to do what you want with your body) and encourage parents to let teens have a beer with dinner or something so it isn’t so exotic.
BTW, that’s by Jody “My Sons Are Probably Future Rapists” Allard.
C’mon kids, we’ve gotta hit 1000 comments here.
No problem.
Have a great song.
The Glibertarian’s equivalent of the St. Crispin’s Day speech.
This day shall stand in infamy, sorrow and also joy for as long as this site shall stand.
This day really has had it all
We haven’t talked about the Single Tax yet…
Or the fact that deep dish IS pizza.
*runs*
What the hell is wrong with you, man!?
*Throws handful of a disgusting mixture of chunky peanut butter and pineapples at a retreating Q
I agree. It’s delicious, too.
Now, is it pizza only when it comes out of the oven? Might as well get some abortion debatin’ here too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lOG3rD5CrQ
Could I interest anyone in a helping of some Rand Paul and the ACA?
So, one deep dish with chunky peanut butter, pineapple, aborted fetus and extra foreskin to go!
Here’s cool tune with a fun mash-up video.
*Includes bonus Morticia Adamms eye candy
Noticed that close to 1K. I’ll add a comment.
Stay off my lawn!
Cโmon kids, weโve gotta hit 1000 comments here.
Looks like you got your wish.
Your lingerie football league update.
http://freebeacon.com/blog/nfl-week-4-picks-can-lingerie-football-league-mvp-jade-randle-beat-brent-scher-edition/
Also, Jade Randle (made up name?); HFS would, would, would.
Fuck everything about today.
https://www.tmz.com/2017/10/02/tom-petty-found-unconscious-full-cardiac-arrest/
God fucking dammit.
Wow. The hits keep comin.
I scrolled down and only just noticed that Harry Dean Stanton died. Had no idea he was that old. Still a bummer. Maybe I’ll rewatch Paris, Texas soon.
I fondly remember him from Kelly’s Heroes and Alien. He was a mainstay in the films from my youth.
Repo Man!
I never mentioned that in any of the links threads?
(I have a movie blog, so one of my first stops every time I fire up the desktop is Wikipedia’s recent deaths page. They call me the Cryptkeeper elsewhere.)
Yes you did. Well, someone did, couldn’t swear it was you.
I haven’t read every comment here. I had no doubt that his death was already discussed. I only just found out about it, though. :/
Is this National Kick In the Nuts Day?
Must be. I look like Randy Marsh.
They didn’t confirm he was dead yet, so can we make a wise crack about Lou Reed?
Call the Cleveland Browns to let him down one more time.
Hard to tell on looks alone, much less brain wave activity.
I’m going to say what everyone is thinking: the best thing that Tom Petty did was when he played Luanne’s husband, Lucky, in King of the Hill. It’s true
They’re taking him off life support
Crap. Anyone else have a newborn in the family to balance out these hits to the gut?
Is this peak Canada? I think this is peak Canada.
http://archive.is/LYqmi
I’ve heard of this happening with Green Bay Packer tickets.
So I merely touched the outside of the Carolina Reaper, then touch my mouth, and my lips are fucking burning. Yowzah.
Can I interest you in a proposal?
Your name was given to me by a mutual friend who explained you are a very honest and reliable person.
I am the son of a prominent Nigerian government official and I have information about a TEN MILLION DOLLAR deposit held in bank funds that I am unfortunately incapable of claiming myself …
Me + Nigerian scammers = fun times. Wish I had time to mess with them still.
They are no joke.
However, they are no longer the hottest pepper.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4922654/amp/Pepper-X-set-break-record-world-s-hottest-pepper.html
Same guy who made the Reaper, made Pepper X
Good Mythical Morning had a Carolina Reaper challenge.
NO. Next question?
http://gazette.com/pointcounterpoint-would-governor-john-hickenlooper-make-a-good-president/article/1612334
Again with the ties, this guy needs to find a new catch to fans. Fuck you, you’re a politician. Wear a tie.
Dislike of ties is the only thing I have in common with Hickenlooper. Wouldn’t vote for him for dog-catcher of the county next door.
I wear bowties. Everyone in the family seemed impressed by the one I wore to my niece’s wedding, even though it was part of a cheap 3/$9 box set.
Fuck him,
He works for the people. If they want him dressed up in a gimp suit, scuba flippers, a beanie and a ball gag, that’s what they should have.
If he doesn’t like it, Denver surely has trash bins to empty or streets to be swept.
All politicians should wear ball-gags. We need a referendum!
Do you have a newsletter for which one could subscribe?
That’ll just sexualize them and endear people to them further. ๐
The only time I’ve ever found a politician sexy is this photo of Nixon. Most “good-looking” politicians have that Ivy League prep douche look, like the young Joe Biden or Justin Trudeau. Not a fan. And most are just ugly.
Hickenlooper is basically what happens if Kasich became honest with himself and joined the correct party (D!), so no.
I will never forgive Lickapooper for not vetoing the retarded mag capacity ban. He lost any claim to “moderate pragmatist” after that fiasco.
My feelings exactly.
Yup.
Hickenlooper is a POS who used tragedy to infringe on my rights and the rights of every Coloradan, and I would rather vote for Trump any day of the week.
That shitstain sponsored a bunch of gun restrictions and then tried to excuse his own ignorance and backpedal on the issue afterwards.
Yes, America needs an ignorant ill informed president that promulgates laws that he doesn’t understand, and then gets all teary and apologetic when things go pear-shaped.
Fuck him. Fuck him with a Carolina Reaper-smeared trebuchet arm.
Fortunately, there’s a bevy of highly qualified Democrats who may run, like our own Gov. John Hickenlooper and Sens. Kamala Harris and Al Franken.
lol
god help us
Why do the Democrats want Trump to get another term?
Good for ratings?
KK, where are you looking at moving in CO?
Don’t care, but I probably wouldn’t like it very much east of Denver.
I’d check out Grand Junction. They don’t have as many jobs, but it’s much cheaper and easier access (no traffic) to mountain fun time.
Nice! I”ll look at that!
Wish Silverthorne or Frisco were big tech cities LOL
me too. so bad.
A Basin is reporting most of Summit County is without power because of the snow. *sigh*
Gift of gab, AFRO, and RA.
Awesome.
glad someone also digs it.
SERIAL KILLAH.
http://www.krdo.com/news/crime/el-paso-county-crime/after-woodland-park-arrest-could-authorities-be-dealing-with-a-possible-serial-killer/627683127
more rap songs. just seeing if we can push to 1k. Probably of of the better DOOM songs not on Madvilliany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7FaWnlhS4
Tom Petty dead after heart attack. He was 66.
Screen never refreshed but there’s a link above.
Ugh. What an awful day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsHCqrrU-Gk
something something still give the succ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcLbHUBoDpI
In honor of Tom Petty’s best role
Too fucking young.
He’ll be a buried treasure.
Probability that Spain spirals into all out Civil War?
http://news.sky.com/story/catalonia-independence-vote-spanish-foreign-minister-says-police-violence-not-extraordinary-11063534
5%. They are still European pussies who yearn to be ruled.
ISIS ain’t backing down on their claim.
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/10/02/isis-persists-vegas-claim-dubs-shooter-abu-abdul-bar-al-amriki/
I mean, they wouldn’t, would they.
If dude turns out to have been a recent convert to Islam, this whole thing takes on a totally different aspect.
Screening/profiling gets sort of hard if white guys living in retirement communities are going jihadi.
Well, that didn’t take long: CBS parts company with that shitheel attorney.
Much faster than I expected.
reports of an active shooter at USC. police locked the place down, no shooter found.
Daily TrojanโVerified account @dailytrojan 12m12 minutes ago
Replying to @dailytrojan @USCDPS
LAPD confirmed a call came out 12:17 p.m. of a possible active shooter, but there is currently no evidence of shooting and no victims reported.
2 replies 143 retweets 58 likes
Well… still ban guns cause we just should.
Yeah, wonder who called it in?
No surprise. The left is convinced that we live in a war zone. They want it to be true soooooo badly.
The tolerant Left.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/10/02/vile-teacher-prays-only-trumptards-died-in-las-vegas-shooting-and-other-horrible-tweets/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget
Sigh… that sort of thing really can make you lose faith in humanity.
I still view them as bizarre aberrations (hence the newsworthiness). If I could see this being a commonplace teacher or human being, I’d be more pessimistic.
Well, there’s 1000 now.
Yeehaw! In your face!
One thousand, b’gorry! Is this a new record?
So we have a Monty Python sitcheeation with Tom Petty. Some sources are saying he’s not dead yet, though he’s off life support on a DNR.
The waiting is the hardest part.
Present
So what’d I miss?