Tuesday Afternoon Links… of Fun

Brett is a bit busy….something about trying to pry a suitcase of meth out of a 15 foot gator?

Not really Brett

I am not sure….the call for assistance was a bit garbled. Anyhoo, I am taking a break from the Fondue Mines to bring you the finest in Afternoon Links.

  • OK, I didn’t bring this one (h/t LT Fish) but it is worth a watch.
  • You got nothing on me, Elliot Ness!
  • Florida has a fever, and a whole sh&tload of stingrays is the cure!
  • OK, British Tabloid Headline of the day… SEX PROBE DEATH …it is not quite what you think.
  • Ah, come see the AP pour a double of envy, with a chaser of economic dimwittedness.

 

Oh, and this is a severe leak of confidential information. I am not amused.

 

Comments

677 responses to “Tuesday Afternoon Links… of Fun”

  1. Q Continuum

    Best. Group. Ever.

    https://archive.is/Irwtq

    5, 12, 20, 24, 35, 38, 47… Christ just give me ’em all.

    1. Sean

      Stunning group.
      5 & 16 for me

    2. Florida Man

      Too many to pick. 6 looks underage.

    3. Ownbestenemy

      24…29….35
      Or all. I am not picky with this group

      1. DEG

        Or all.

        Ownbestenemy gets it.

    4. Tundra

      Would.

      1. bacon-magic

        ^^^

        1. DEG

          I’ve seen bacon-magic join the orgy cult, and now Tundra too? Excellent!

    5. Rasilio

      Yeah that is some quality …

      Photography there

    6. This Machine

      27 makes my heart go pitter-pat.

      1. But Enough About Me

        It’s the blue eyes and red hair. That combo is my Kryptonite.

    7. DEG

      Christ just give me ’em all.

      Q, converted to the orgy cult.

  2. Vhyrus

    FIRST YOU CORK SACKERS!!

    1. Vhyrus

      NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      DAMN YOU TITTIES! YOU BLEW IT ALL UP!!

      1. Q Continuum

        Tits always come first.

        1. bacon-magic

          Tits up.

      2. Hyperion

        I could have been first, but I didn’t want to be. I have to let you guys win occasionally.

    2. Sean

      So close.

      1. Damn your edit fairy abilities!

        (When I first responded, Swiss’ post was just a period.)

        1. He does that when he’s about to abuse the thread with some image or another.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            He always gets moody right before that, though.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            Swiss is post-manopause

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      If you’re going to lose, at least lose to jugz.

  3. Just Say’n

    First

    1. Just Say’n

      Aw, screw this place

      1. Q Continuum

        TITS CONQUER!

        1. bacon-magic

          tits up

          1. Hyperion

            Bacon’s caught bribing the editors with titties. A new level of corruption.

          2. bacon-magic

            That’s the oldest form of corruption know to mammals.

          3. Q Continuum

            And thank G-d for that.

          4. thrakkorzog

            Way to other the monotremes, Hyperion.

          5. Sean

            Russian tits?

  4. F. Stupidity Jr.

    Florida has a fever, and a whole sh&tload of stingrays is the cure!

    That’s Florida’s answer for everything.

    /first

    1. F. Stupidity Jr.

      Uh, mine was the only official first. Tonio, tell them the rules.

      1. robc

        Tonio’s rules were bogus at old site and even more bogus here.

        1. The entire first thing is so 2002.

    1. Zunalter

      Nothing curbs depression like a depressant.

  5. Just Say’n

    https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/927672385704251393

    ENB says Young Americans for Liberty is not ‘libertarian’. No one is pure enough for oh great libertarian, ENB

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      No one is pure enough for any libertarian. Put 5 libertarians in a room and they’ll all tell you why the others aren’t real libertarians. We’re great like that.

      (YAL is like Rand Paul. Libertarian-ish.)

      1. Just Say’n

        ENB is the last person I would allow to cast judgement on who is and isn’t a libertarian. And the fact that you didn’t know that makes you no libertarian.

        /sarc?

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Wouldn’t disagree with you there. But c’mon. You know that libertarians are worse with purity tests than even Team Red or Team Blue. We hate ourselves.

          1. Just Say’n

            I know. Because a libertarians most hated adversary is a fellow libertarian. It’s crazy

          2. R C Dean

            Well, It Is Known that libertarians hate people. And libertarians are people, so you do the math.

        2. wdalasio

          My general experience has been the people who most loudly scream about the dubiousness of other people’s libertarian credentials prove the most…idiosyncratic in their libertarianism. I make no particular claim to be the One True Libertarian and I’m skeptical of anyone who does.

      2. robc

        You trying to steal my 2nd rule of libertarianism?

        For the uninitiated:

        robc’s rules of libertarianism
        1. Everyone agrees with libertarians about something
        2. No two libertarians agree about anything

        1. Mad Scientist

          Those rules are bullshit!

          1. Tundra

            A real libertarian wouldn’t think so.

          2. I’d say he’s half right.

          3. Mad Scientist

            I guess we can agree on that.

        2. bacon-magic

          Your rules are just a statist attempt at control. Fuck off slaver.

        3. Your number 2 sounds like my General Theory of Libertarianism: “There is only ever one real libertarian.”

          1. robc

            Nah, there are plenty of us, just the rest of you are wrong.

          2. Zunalter

            It’s like the Sith in Star Wars.

        4. Hyperion

          It’s like herding cats.

    2. Playa Manhattan

      Is she too busy to take a screenshot?

      1. You could ask her, but she’d probably dox you and try to get you fired.

      2. Just Say’n

        This is what she was responding to. A stupid meme. But, remember, jokes are worse than Hitler

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DODMUnvV4AA48UR.jpg:large

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Oh no!!!! Not a meme!!!

          1. F. Stupidity Jr.

            My internet is down. Can someone get me my fainting couch?

          2. Juvenile Bluster

            Cal is winning 10-3.

        2. wdalasio

          Why is that somehow offensive or anti-libertarian? Am I missing something?

          1. F. Stupidity Jr.

            I think, according to the woke-folk, the phrase “a Jewish economist” is somehow anti-Semetic.

          2. Just Say’n

            And jokes are worse than Hitler

          3. Bobarian LMD

            And Hitler is almost as bad as Trump.

          4. Zunalter

            Saying Hitler is almost as bad as Trump is literally worse than Hitler.

          5. wdalasio

            That’s what it’s supposed to be about?

            (shakes head)

            Then I guess calling Thomas Sowell Black Economics Guy is totally out of the question. Oh. Wait. No, Thomas Sowell is actually alive to not take offense.

          6. ArchieBunker

            Person of color economics guy ftw

          7. mr simple

            How dare you assume xir gender!?

          8. Chipwooder

            Clearly she hates Oscar Gamble.

      3. Vhyrus

        Well she’s damn sure not making a sandwich.

        1. bacon-magic

          Bitch needs a snickers bar.

    3. Q Continuum

      That’s rich coming from the world’s foremost pseudo-libertarian.

    4. wdalasio

      Let me guess. They don’t doxx enough teenage boys for making stupid sandwich jokes to qualify as true libertarians?

    5. Gilmore

      as recently as 2013 she was still ‘grappling with libertarian ideas’ like, whether or not the minimum wage was a good idea, or insisting that freedom of association doesn’t really exist.

      1. Zunalter

        Her libertarian cred rests solely on how much she loves prostitution and drugs. There is nothing else in that empty head.

  6. ChipsnSalsa

    Florida has a fever, and a whole sh&tload of stingrays is the cure!

    “This time of year we get a lot of cigar minnows and mullet fish that come through to feed,”

    So Florida names their fish after some of the most common sightings in FL>

    1. mullet fish

      Perfect.

    2. Hyperion

      “This time of year we get a lot of cigar minnows”

      Can you smoke them, I mean with hickory or something?

    3. Hyperion

      “This time of year we get a lot of cigar minnows”

      Best served smoked?

  7. Juvenile Bluster

    Plane owned by Roy Halladay crashes in the Gulf of Mexico. Press conference scheduled to reveal identity of dead

    Please tell me he wasn’t on the plane. It’s a tragedy no matter who died, but please please please don’t let it have been him.

    *Edit Fairy Mourns*

    1. Cool link, bro.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        This was not a good time for me to SF the link.

        http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/11/07/roy-halladay-plane/

        1. Maybe the edit fairy will fix it for you.

        2. Playa Manhattan

          Has anyone tried calling his cell phone?

          1. That would be actual work.

        3. robc

          Your link answers your question.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Article was just updated.

    2. Vhyrus

      It wasn’t him… I heard he was on Halladay.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        That’s a paddlin’.

    3. Just Say’n

      WOAH- amazing link! Thanks for sharing

      1. I bet you feel bad now…

  8. Playa Manhattan

    I don’t care about being Swiss, but I wouldn’t mind the citizenship.

    1. It takes some effort to pull that off.

      Or a critical skill.

      Or a fuckton money.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        How about boyish good looks?

        1. bacon-magic

          You still lose. Good day sir.

      2. MikeS

        Or a fuckton (((gold))).

        FIFY

    2. Lachowsky

      https://mises.org/library/claudio-grass-whether-switzerland-can-save-world

      I listened to this the other day. It’s about the Swiss model of governance. Apparently Switzerland has a deferential federal governmemt ano does a hell of a lot better job of federalism than the United States does.

      1. I have it in mind as a bolt hole, if necessary.

        1. Lachowsky

          bolt hole? I’m not familiar with that turn of phrase.

          1. kbolino

            Place to flee to? I’m just guessing though.

        2. Lachowsky

          I wonder at times if we treat at the left disproportionatly badly in these boards. The common thought here is that the left has gone off the rails. I agree, but I wonder if I believe that only because I have read too many derptologist posts.

          Is there an equal amount of derp worthy posts from the right. I’m sure there is. I guess the question is, how much has the derp infected the right vs how much has the derp infected the left. I think the left is more afflicted with derp than the right, but I can’t he sure.

          1. MikeS

            I’ve been pondering the same. My theory is that yes, there is just as much derp on the right, but the right derp hasn’t creeped it’s way into mainstream like the left derp has. So the right derp is much easier to miss/ignore.

          2. Lachowsky

            I Gilmored the fuck out of that. Lo siento.

          3. MikeS

            Re-post it below. I’ll re-comment. No one will be the wiser

          4. kbolino

            I think part of the reason is that, right now, the left has few voices that resonate with us. Whereas, the right has many such voices. That situation won’t last forever. Either the left will moderate, or the right will drive out libertarians (again). It’s only a matter of time.

  9. Michael

    …where young millionaires dine on $15 wood-grilled avocado…

    Okay, I have no idea what that is. It sounds disgusting.

    1. Florida Man

      Silicon Valley is the worst, so they’re going to move away…no? Then shut the fuck up about what other people have and take responsibility for your choices.

    2. Microaggressor

      Avocado toast is the white people of overpriced food.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      See? Obamacare WORKS!

    2. The Other Kevin

      The Dems in Illinois have ads on the radio telling about how mean old Trump severely cut back the open enrollment period, so you better enroll RIGHT NOW or else you’ll die of smallpox (or something similar). I can only imagine they are doing the same advertising in other states. Bet that has something to do with it.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      It’s a RECORD NUMBER.

      A record going back 2 years.

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      Its amazing what happens when something is mandated at the expense of a tax penalty no, wait tax penalty, aw fuck it Penaltax

      1. Q Continuum

        Better than a PenileTax.

        1. Mad Scientist

          That would cost me a LOT.

    5. Hyperion

      That means we just added a bunch of people to medicaid. You have to learn how to translate these mediots.

  10. I think it’s insidious to hold a stealth refrendum on an off-off election year.

    I was the only voter at the polling place.

    1. robc

      Then you may have decided the election!

    2. bacon-magic

      You matter UCS.

  11. Tonio

    Apparently it’s victim-blaming to talk about good guys with guns. No, I didn’t wade into the fever swamps to try to follow the argument, such as it is.

    Also, First.

    1. Vhyrus

      Did you hear about the guy in Oregon?

        1. Vhyrus

          No, but I think he can be our new Oregon man.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Did he actually sexually assault that chicken? Or just choke it?

          1. OneOut

            Was it a good looking chicken ?

    2. Tonio

      No, what happened?

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      Way to go on the First!

      *high five*

    1. Florida Man

      PAXTON: And we know that there’s black markets in everything that people want – right? – drugs, whatever. Just name it. If people want it, there’s a black market. And so to be naive and say that there wouldn’t be for guns is I think unrealistic.

      Correct answer. Good job, Pax.

      1. ArchieBunker

        So hes for drug legalization too?

        1. Hyperion

          Ha, good one!

        2. Florida Man

          I don’t know the dude so maybe, but I doubt it.

      2. Zunalter

        black markets in everything that people want – right?

        That’s racist.

    2. bacon-magic

      Paxton with the smack down.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    More millenial anti-kkkorporashunz nonsense

    There are some winners, but the real champions are the corporate owners: They get their pick from all the qualified applicants, and the oversupply of human capital keeps labor costs down. Competition between workers means lower wages for them and higher profits for their bosses: The more teenagers who learn to code, the cheaper one is.

    The struggle for success has heavy financial and psychological costs for the participants. Constant competition has affected how young Americans see themselves in relation to the world. That’s why the United States has measured huge increases in youth anxiety and depression, as well as a sharp decline in social trust. If kids are told to find comfort in the idea that they are sacrificing their mental health now for security in adulthood, they are being tricked once more.

    At the end of their journey into adulthood they aren’t reimbursed for their efforts. And in this winner-take-all economy, most of them just lose. They can’t increase the size of Harvard’s freshman class just by working harder; all they can do is drive one another to anxiety, depression, paranoia and exhaustion. That, and save money for their future bosses.

    I have no idea where this buffoon went to school, but he should definitely ask for a refund.

    The punch line? He wants high school students to unionize and strike for later (and presumably shorter) school days. Satire is as dead as the Dodo.

    1. Vhyrus

      Money, how does that shit work?

    2. Tonio

      Reimbursed for their efforts…

      I’d love to ask the author if taxpayers should get reimbursed for his education.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      “and the oversupply of human capital keeps labor costs down”

      Or, maybe the “human capital” that you paid for in the form of a grievance studies degree isn’t worth what you think it is. Maybe.

    4. Michael

      The more teenagers who learn to code, the cheaper one is.

      And yet, this is the same silver bullet Dems have been peddling for the past ten years. Listening to them talk about it you’d almost think there exists a mythical programming language capable of magically unlocking the secret passageway between abject struggle for survival and easy living after a few short semesters of community college. No, dumbasses, it doesn’t work that way.

    5. Q Continuum

      NYT publishing debunked Marxist horseshit? UNPOSSIBLE!

      1. Microaggressor

        But wouldn’t it be nice if nobody in your country had to work hard? Goods and services would fall from the sky, just as Marx envisioned. And there would be no more icky competition that makes NYT authors feel inadequate.

    6. The Other Kevin

      The more teenagers who learn to code, the cheaper one is harder it is to find one that knows what the fuck they are doing.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        But I code…

        *clicks and drags some commands around*

        SEE!

        1. Microaggressor

          I modded computer games when I was a teenager. Some of them sucked, but hey, it didn’t hurt anyone.

    7. Chipwooder

      So majoring in pomo gibberish isn’t translating into higher income? Unpossible!

    8. NOT a Naked Intruder

      So, do we just start killing workers, since there seems to be too many?

      Or, is it the teens? ;crosses fingers;

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Or, less complicated. For Trump.

    2. grrizzly

      I knew back in July that Megan McArdle’s reputation could not recover.

      Trump’s Defeated Defenders Can Only Whimper
      Revelations about Russia and the Trumps are damning. All their allies can do is quibble about the definition of “collusion.”

      What happened at the meeting could ultimately be irrelevant. The sin to which Donald Trump Jr. has already confessed is egregious enough. A decent person would not give an audience to a foreign power promising to help tear down the opposition. A decent person certainly would not contemplate and suggest timing of any document release — which moves this revelation beyond merely “taking a meeting you shouldn’t have” and into the territory of “a presidential campaign actively coordinating with foreign agents.”

      1. creech

        Since when are there “decent people” involved in major party politics?

      2. mr simple

        Was this election her introduction to the political process or politicians?

      3. See Double You

        “All their allies can do is quibble about the definition of “collusion.””

        Of course, what constitutes “collusion” is the crux of the matter. For example, how stupid would she sound if you replaced “collusion” with “murder”?

        Defense attorney: “Your honor, my client killed the victim in self defense.”

        Prosecutor: “Pffft, your Honor, all he can do is quibble about the definition of murder!”

        Judge: “Well, yeah, that’s why we’re here, counselor.”

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Somebody wake up Sessions. Scratch that, let the fucker sleep.

    4. Gilmore

      that whole “Trump JR met w/ Russian lawyer” thing was clearly a set up by the Dems.

      this much was clear as soon as the thing was reported. the media tried to over-sell it so hard, but then (like so much else to do with the Russia narrative) dropped it immediately as soon as it was clear that the details of the story ended up making it sound less-fishy for the trump crew, and raised questions about what motivated this Russian character in the first place

  13. Rufus the Monocled

    Roy Halladay.

    Oh, oh. It’s not sounding good.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I don’t think they’d schedule a press conference if it wasn’t him.

      This is, tbh, emotionally crushing for me. I need him to be ok.

      1. F. Stupidity Jr.

        I don’t mean to be insensitive, but why does Halladay mean this much to you? I’m just curious.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          He’s a class act. Was.

          1. F. Stupidity Jr.

            I’m sure. I know he was a great pitcher. But it seems JB is taking it particularly hard; I just want to know if he knows him, or met him, what. Again, just curious – he doesn’t owe me an explanation.

          2. Juvenile Bluster

            I can’t explain it. It’s almost like a family member died.

          3. Juvenile Bluster

            If you want to see it said better than I could, see this article on the SBNation Phillies fan site.

            https://www.thegoodphight.com/2017/11/7/16620462/roy-halladay-former-phillies-pitcher-dies-in-plane-crash

      2. Playa Manhattan

        I think, at this point, if he were OK, he would have tweeted “Hey, I’m OK!”

        1. Vhyrus

          Last time he tweeted was 2 days ago. Not looking good.

    2. Chipwooder

      Roy Halladay was the best pitcher of the last 20 years not named Martinez or Johnson.

    3. Chipwooder

      The top two in innings pitched for the 2003 Blue Jays? Roy Halladay and Cory Lidle.

    4. GSL in E

      Didn’t know anything about him as a person, but still: an awful way to go, and my sympathies to his family and friends. RIP.

  14. Spartan Dad

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a13266971/election-2016-behind-the-scenes/

    Gary Johnson: Well for me, just speaking personally, I do not aspire to be president of the United States anymore. Why would anybody want to be president of the United States now that Donald Trump’s been president of the United States?

    Well for me, just speaking personally, I think Johnson is just another creature from the swamp and would have done even less for libertarian ideals than Trump has. Based on this past election, the big ‘L’ Libertarian party might as well just be another wing of the Democrat party. I hope the Libertarian party finds it’s way back for 2020.

    1. Vhyrus

      Ew… I don’t want it now that HE’S had it!

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Imagine the taint on that chair if Hillary won.

        1. Tonio

          Phrasing! (Vomits)

          1. Playa Manhattan

            He knows what he said.

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            Yup.

          3. What is, “Imagine the taint on that chair if Hillary won”?

          4. *Throws Jeopardy: the Home Edition at Ted S.*

          5. [Lectures Swiss Servator on the need to know more about Canada]

          6. Chipwooder

            Imaging Alex Trebek saying that sentence made my day.

      2. PBRstreetgang

        No sloppy seconds

        1. 46th’s, right?

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Roughly 5% of the popular slop.

    2. Tonio

      I’m becoming convinced that the national LP is one third sincere libertarians, one third opportunists and one third operatives of the duopoly.

      1. F. Stupidity Jr.

        ^^^ Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

      2. I voted in my local today and the lady who checked me in said, “Wow, Libertarian, huh? Don’t see many of you around.” I was like, “Yeah, we’re thin on the ground,” while thinking, “Shit, I totally forgot to change that.”

        1. Tundra

          I still like the logo.

        2. When flexibility affords, always choose “unaffiliated.”

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Vote Apathy because… meh.

          2. Vote Apathy … or not.

      3. Stinky Wizzleteats

        It draws political aspirants who can’t cut it in the big parties like flies to shit.

        1. Zunalter

          I am super pumped for the Weld/Christy 2020 ticket, arent you!?!

          1. Zunalter

            Christie*

      4. Hyperion

        It’s now 1/3 naked dancing fat guys, Tonio.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          At least they’re sincere.

      5. GSL in E

        +1 Bob Barr

    3. Just Say’n

      Translation: “I didn’t win the presidency and I never will. So screw that guy who beat me!”

      Johnson is an alright guy, even though I think he was a shitty candidate. But, the fact that the Libertarian Party and Students for (state approved) Liberty have willingly embraced Bill Weld now tells me that the Libertarian Party is more like the Reform Party now and it deserves the same fate

      1. I’m with you on this. For me, Johnson was, to borrow a phrase*, “wrong within normal parameters”, but Weld was just a left Republican running as a spoiler. I don’t think he had or has any intention of running a serious campaign as a Libertarian (or a libertarian for that matter).

        *Speaking of Messrs. Jilette, O’Rourke, and the other libertarian-ish media personalities from the Anybody but Trump coalition haven’t had much to say since Ms. Brazile turned rat on Herself. I wonder if they consider buying the DNC to be within normal parameters.

      2. Hyperion

        There seems to almost total butthurt among candidates who lost to Trump.

        Not only did Trump cause an epic meltdown of career politicians, but he’s increased sales of my butthurt lotion by 500%! MAGA!

        1. Viking1865

          It all goes back to high school.

          Herself The Most Qualified Candidate, the McMuffin, most of the Republican primary field, and pretty much all the commentarati* were the Debate Club/Model UN/Young Democrats type kids. They ran for class President and had a great speech and policy platform, but lost to the swaggering douchebag who was popular and entered the election as a joke, and won because he was the cool kid and ran with a platform of “the school needs an outdoor swimming pool!” while their platform was all about recycling and installing more energy efficient lighting.

          The rage and the shrieking tears is because after 3 decades they’re back in high school and the swaggering jock is effortlessly beating them at their own game and it’s not supposed to be this way and it’s not fair. They worked really really hard on their Power Point for Model UN, and now everyone is paying attention to stupid Don who only joined because his teacher made him do it for the extra credit, and he’s taken over the whole meeting.

          *I feel like Gary Johnson was more the pot smoking/skateboard/guitar kid who got a solid B- average because he was smart enough to test well but didn’t do the homework and cut class a lot.

          1. F. Stupidity Jr.

            *standing ovation for Viking*

          2. GSL in E

            So, the movie “Election” pretty much summarizes what happened last year then?

  15. The Late P Brooks

    Ummm, who is this Hallady character. Is he by any chance a dentist?

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Insurance broker.

  16. The Sleeper

    RE: Silicon Valley Homelessness:

    The surge in homelessness has prompted at least 10 local governments along the West Coast to declare states of emergency, and cities from San Diego to Seattle are struggling to come up with immediate and long-range solutions.

    Have they tried easing restrictions on building new housing?

    Ellen Tara James-Penney, a 54-year-old lecturer at San Jose State University, parks her old Volvo at one of those safe haven churches, Grace Baptist Church, and eats in its dining hall. She is paid $28,000 a year to teach four English classes and is carrying $143,000 in student debt after earning two degrees.

    I feel bad for the other people in the story but not this dumbass.

    1. Sean

      I feel bad for the other people in the story but not this dumbass.

      Agreed.
      54 years old with $143k in student debt? She deserves everything bad that happens to her.

      1. The Sleeper

        “I majored in philosophy, so I could answer the great questions like ‘why?’.”
        “Why what?”
        “Like ‘Why did I waste over a hundred grand and four years to major in philosophy?’.”

      2. I mean, the debt’s one thing, but that she has two damned degrees and not one is in a marketable skill is another kettle of fish entirely. Plus, I work with five people who do some form of web design or development, and only the designer has anything like a technical degree. And that’s if you call Digital Media technical. Shit, my major’s in Poli Sci!

        1. Lachowsky

          I work with a lot of guys who have degrees that are totally unrelated to making steel. They work as production employees at my plant because it pays better than what they can get with their degrees.

      3. Zunalter

        The hyphenated name is a dead giveaway that at least 1 of those degrees is in women’s studies.

    2. Hyperion

      “Have they tried easing restrictions on building new housing?”

      Of course not. Some rare nematode that exists almost everywhere might be endangered. Look, Democrats care most of all about the poor, except when it comes to nematodes, or bait fish, or pretty much everything else. Shut up, peasants, do as we say, not as we do!

    3. Hyperion

      How the fuck could someone live in Cali on that salary? You couldn’t live in Maryland on that. Well, maybe in the ghetto, but you’d have a rather short life expectancy among other… it would be like living in the 3rd world.

      1. GSL in E

        This. The cost of living is one part of it, but one thing CA Democrats don’t like to mention is that taxes in the state are extremely regressive as well: high sales taxes, and very high income tax rates for people who make very little money (i.e., 6% for those making $29K, 8% for those making $41K, 9.3% for those making $52K).

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Why would anybody want to be president of the United States now that Donald Trump’s been president of the United States?

    Lay off the paint thinner, Gary.

  18. Q Continuum

    Repeat out loud after me:

    AH EM TOAD ULLY WEE TODD ED.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/i-am-a-man-with-down-syndrome-and-my-life-is-worth-living/544325/

    (Yes, I’m going to Hell, what of it?)

    FWIW: Eliminating Down Syndrome through eugenic abortions is an abomination.

    1. Just Say’n

      It was a powerful testimonial before congress.

    2. bacon-magic

      Life should go on Corky, totally agree.

      1. creech

        Is every Downs male named Corky? Over the last few years, there were two Downs kids at local high schools who were given the big chance to play football (e.g. score a touchdown when the game was out of hand and the opposing team was in on the plan) and both were named Corky.

        1. Sean

          Maybe it’s like a franchise.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Viral marketing.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          +1 Dread Pirate Roberts

          1. Dread pirate Robert

            Nobody would surrender to Downs male Westley

    3. Viking1865

      I pretty much punt on the whole abortion issue, but I think the pro lifers are slowly and steadily gaining ground, as it becomes more clear to the moderate types that the whole “safe, legal, and rare” canard was at best a slogan and at worse an outright lie.

      The whole cheerful “ICELAND HAS ELIMINATED DOWNS SYNDROME!!!” article and the glowing approval by the progs was very disturbing. Literally culling the untermenschen from the gene pool.

      1. Vhyrus

        As with everything they do, the progs vastly overestimated their base and overplayed their hand.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      My wife and I had a hard time having kids. We had 3 miscarriages (and 3 wonderful kids). Those sucked real bad. At one point we had gone 1 for 4 in pregnancies. Anyhow, when we did have the last two kids, we went in for more extensive genetic testing because of our previous troubles (and my wife’s age).

      If we had gotten the news that the kid had Downs Syndrome, we were going to have an abortion. It would have sucked really bad, just like the miscarriages, but neither of us felt that it would be an abomination to have the kid aborted.

      I completely understand people who feel differently. I just would have felt worse bringing a Downs Syndrome kid (or any other major problem) to term than in having an abortion.

      1. RAHeinlein

        Thank you for sharing.

  19. Ken Shultz

    Anybody else paying attention to the events in Saudi Arabia.

    I think this might be a case of a little benevolence in the dictatorship.

    The new regime seems to be taking the country in a more moderate direction (they’re letting women drive and attend sporting events for the first time), and the old regime is more conservative in that regard.

    So they old regime supporters who wouldn’t toe the line are having their heads aerated.

    I don’t know that it’s right to condemn the Saudi regime for imprisoning dissenters in the royal family. Those dissenters aren’t exactly paragons of human rights themselves.

    It’s sort of like criticizing the Romanians for not giving Ceausescu a fair trial.

    . . . except it isn’t the Saudi people evening the score. But the new dictatorship is a kinder, gentler, executioner.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      They’re also planning to drop $500 Billion on building a new city on the Red Sea as part of their post-oil economic plan.

      1. Ken Shultz

        I guess that’s sort of like what China would do.

        And sort of like what Dubai would do.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I think it’s Dubai envy.

    2. Just Say’n

      How are you on the internet from jail? You broke five of Rand’s ribs!

      1. Just Say’n

        PS: I’m just joking Ken

      2. Ken Shultz

        No I didn’t.

        1. robc

          Woosh!

        2. bacon-magic

          Ken has an alibi: teaching the baby otters about sexual consent.

          1. Q Continuum

            Should have spent his time teaching ducks; they are rape machines.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            It’s rape culture all the way down.

          3. Bobarian LMD

            It’s good to be top of the food chain.

            SS:GOOD TO BE TOP OF RAPE CHAIN

        3. Hyperion

          So you plead not guilty?

      3. Tonio

        Golf clap.

        1. F. Stupidity Jr.

          Is that what Tiger Woods got when he cheated on his wife? /ba-doom TSSHHHH

      4. robc

        Rand? I heard it was Paul Ryan!

    3. Vhyrus

      Hey, anything that offsets the dumpster fire Turkey is rapidly devolving into is a good thing, although it could easily go the other way.

      1. I’ve got 158 executions in the pool.

    4. Mustang

      I’m actually hoping that it gets ignored so we don’t get dragged into something, so sssshhhhhh.

  20. The Late P Brooks

    She is paid $28,000 a year to teach four English classes and is carrying $143,000 in student debt after earning two degrees.

    It’s pretty obvious neither of those degrees was math.

    Fucking arithmetic- how does it work?

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Let’s see… My Berkeley English classes were 2 hours a week. So…

      She’s working 8 hours. OK, let’s round it up to 10. So… maybe find another job with all of that free time?

      1. Zunalter

        Are you trying to tell me that grievance activist isn’t a job?

  21. Mad Scientist

    If someone was building an AR and was about to decide on a caliber, would you peanuts prefer 5.56 NATO or .223 Remington? Show your work.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      For your purposes, the differences are so insignificant that it doesn’t matter.

      Anyone who disagrees with me on a technicality is going to get Bo Cara shamed.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        .308

        The original caliber of the AR.

        1. Lachowsky

          I approve of this message.

          /my AR is a fusil automatique leger

    2. Florida Man

      Wylde. Shoot both.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      .223 Wylde

      1. Sean

        This is the correct answer.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          I dunno. Mine is a 5.56, but I built it in 2012.

      2. Florida Man

        Suck it, Johnny come lately!

    4. Vhyrus

      You basically cannot find an AR barrel that is not rated for 5.56 anymore.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        And if it wasn’t, .223 in 5.56 but not 5.56 in .223.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          .223 ammo in 5.56 chamber but not 5.56 ammo in .223 chamber

          (make that a bit clearer)

      2. EvilSheldon

        .223Rem chambers are indeed, pretty rare. You can find them, but you pretty much have to go looking.

    5. Chipwooder

      .308 Win

    6. Mad Scientist

      Thanks, everyone!

    7. bacon-magic

      Morgan Freeman is the correct answer.

      1. Q Continuum

        DENZEL. bitch

    8. libertarianjoe

      As others have said, .223 Wylde is the right choice

  22. Mustang

    Whenever I have to give briefings on what to do if an active shooter enters your building, I always start out with “the best thing to do is to arm yourself and learn how to use it, because sometimes my folks can be minutes away” and then give them stats (from the FBI) about how many people can die a minute if the gunman isn’t confronted. There’s always a stunned silence while about half the audience comes to grips with the fact that law enforcement doesn’t materialize out of thin air and something as mundane as heavy traffic can mean the difference between life and death, about a quarter of the crowd seems furious I would even suggest it, one quarter that seemed to think “duh”, and that one guy in the corner who looks like he wants to tell me he’s carrying RIGHT NOW but can’t.

    Point being, I wish more people were like the guys whogired back at the church shooter instead of scared shitless at the mere mention of icky things.

    1. Mustang

      *guys who fired back

    2. Playa Manhattan

      Except in lower Manhattan, where there are 5 cops on every corner. Instead of a slow response, they have the problem of killing bystanders with crossfire.

    3. Vhyrus

      *starts to raise hand excitedly, stops, looks down, walks away*

      1. Mustang

        I saw that! What’s your question?

        1. Vhyrus

          I was trying to imitate the guy in the corner since I am always that guy.

          1. Mustang

            This is a mandatory briefing. You don’t get to walk out until you ask a question.

            *Audience groans*

          2. Asks, “Why do fools fall in love?”

          3. Q Continuum

            “Where do babies come from?”

          4. Gustave Lytton

            “Three good questions and then we can go. Ok, who’s first?”

          5. Q Continuum

            “WHY?!?!??!?!?!?!”

          6. Kenneth, what is the frequency?

    4. Viking1865

      From the book of Cooper: ““The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”

      The guy who killed the murderer is a certified NRA instructor. He apparently used an AR to do it. The only mistake he made, and I think it’s one that bears nothing: he apparently did not keep a magazine loaded, and had to load it as he ran to the sound of the gunfire. Not ideal, not ideal at all. He took the rifle from the safe, there is IMO no reason for a ready rifle to not be loaded or at the very least for a loaded magazine to be next to the rifle.

      1. I like that he had the presence of mind – God-led or otherwise – to recognize the plate carrier and shoot the guy in the side.

        But yeah, seemed really weird from the interview that he didn’t have a single loaded magazine. I know during deployment we were told to download and rotate our magazines every few months – and on the ship, we’d cycle the ones in the ready service lockers periodically for cleaning/reloading/inspection – can’t imagine a similar situation in a home gun safe.

  23. Raven Nation

    ” you peanuts”

    *triggers Palin’s BP flashbacks, begins writhing on floor*

  24. Ownbestenemy

    So I received some FOIAs of all airspace data for the night of the Vegas shooting. Wonder what someone is looking for.

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Black helicopters.

    2. Tonio

      Do commercial drones have to file flight plans?

      1. Sometimes…

        *looks shifty*

      2. kinnath

        no

    3. Tonio

      Was the FOIA request from the po-po or from a private citizen?

      If the former, presumably looking for witnesses and hopefully footage or stills.

      If the latter, presumably looking for government aircraft as evidence of conspiracy. (Tears off tinfoil, passes roll to Ownby.)

      1. *waves to foil pusher*

        DON’T FORGET ME!!!!

          1. Sunday night for some ungodly reason people at my regular watering hole were trying to play the 80’s-est song they could, I would have killed with this. Damn it Ted two days late.

          2. Bobarian LMD

            Rick Rolling is the correct answer.

      2. Ownbestenemy

        Unsure who the request is from. I just pull the data. But to sooth the conspiracy
        theories, all data is there…nothing corrupt.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Leave out something innocuous just for fun.

          1. Ownbestenemy

            I thought about it…
            Sorry we cannot comply with this request…all data was wiped clean with a cloth.

    4. Playa Manhattan

      Dirtboxing. Probably a Pilatus PC-12.

    5. The Sleeper

      Helicopter on the roof?
      Although looking at satellite pictures, that doesn’t seem likely.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Helicopter traffic around there is extremely heavy, but not at that time of night, and not with a concert going on.

    1. Mustang

      Some inspiration for you.

      https://imgur.com/a/K5D0X

      1. Q Continuum

        Do you even Hat and Hair bro?

        1. Mustang

          No.

          Dammit.

          Did he get the bomber jacket in there too?

          1. Q Continuum

            I have a feeling there’s going to be some kind of orgy involving all four hats and the jacket in a future episode, but SF keeps a pretty tight lid on the creative process.

    2. Q Continuum

      *books several FLBP girls for baby pool ranch wrestling*

      1. How do baby pools wrestle on a ranch?

    3. Vhyrus

      Ladies and gentlemen, another piece of peak murica has been added to the puzzle.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Is it keto?

    5. Playa Manhattan

      Sold under the category “Marital Aids”.

      1. Q Continuum

        Not to be mistaken for “Marital AIDS” or “Martial Aids”.

    6. Pope Jimbo

      Combine that with Jesse’s 55 gallons of lube and you can have quite the salad tossing party!

    7. Hyperion

      5 liters? No one NEEDS 5 liters of beer! These capitalists are trying to make drunks out of everyone!

      1. Ranch dressing, though yummy, is not beer.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Are you sure? Bud Light Ranch.

          1. You’d think they’d swap out the Kroger logo on the neck label, but …

        2. Hyperion

          Wait a minute… *narrows gaze* … something in a mini keg that is not beer? Wait, who NEEDS 5 gallons of ranch dressing?

          1. RAHeinlein

            You do realize that they are really selling you bleach (Clorox (TM)) – just like those nasty lean, finely-textured, beef people in spacesuits.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Is she too busy to take a screenshot?

    In addition to her duties of arbitrating ur-libertarianism, ENB is busy building a wedding website to formalize her beardedness with that tomboy with the furrin-sounding cognomen.. I learned this by scrolling through her twatter page, a mistake I am unlikely to repeat.

    1. Robby Soave?

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      I still follow her, mostly because she has funny interactions with Maggie McNeill

  26. Q Continuum

    Oh Wesley, you’re such a scamp.

    https://twitter.com/wilw/status/927284357609353218

    1. Vhyrus

      Wil Wheaton is one of those people that should have died right around puberty.

      1. Chipwooder

        Wil Wheaton‏Verified account @wilw · Nov 5

        Paul Ryan is the Speaker of the House. He can offer laws and regulations to end this, but he offers thoughts and prayers instead.

        Make churches gun free zones!!

      2. Mad Scientist

        All the time cops are guarding Hitler, which is why when I build my time machine I’m going back to erase Wil Wheaton.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Who?

      3. Stinky Wizzleteats

        None of the Twitter links have been going through for me today. Y’all are getting through alright?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Yep.

          Did you get banned?

        2. Stinky Wizzleteats

          And it just worked…nevermind.

          Also, cut Wheaton some slack, the man ain’t that bright.

          1. NOT a Naked Intruder

            the man ain’t that bright.

            Not-bright and shitty: great way to go through life.

    2. wdalasio

      If prayers did anything, they’d still be alive…

      But couldn’t this be said even more of gun control? Kelley wasn’t legally able to purchase a gun for any number of reasons (dishonorable discharge, wife beating, and now it seems having been an escapee from an asylum). Yet, he was nevertheless able to get a gun and kill people. It strikes me that if gun control laws did anything, they’d be just as alive as if prayers did.

      1. Mad Scientist

        Completely true, but don’t be fooled by this line of thinking. The purpose of gun control is not take guns out of criminals’ hands. The purpose is to take them from yours.

        1. antisthenes

          Exactly true. Gun control is for the benefit of the wolves, not the sheep. The fact that the low-status sociopaths will also have an easier time committing crimes is of no concern to the high-status sociopaths who are seeking to abuse with impunity. Just a few more eggs for the omelet.

  27. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Sex probe death

    Let me guess, someone forgot that they use 220V in Europe.

    1. *slow clap, muffled by asbestos gloves*

    2. Q Continuum

      +1 one reciprocating saw with the RAMBONE attached

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’m glad someone knows the classics.

    3. Lachowsky

      And 50 hertz, the savages.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    This is a mandatory briefing. You don’t get to walk out until you ask a question.

    Are you done yet?

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Robby Soave?

    Not him . The other feckless nitwit.

  30. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Welp, I voted.

    I might have voted for the LP candidate except that GayJay turned me off to the party and I wanted to register a protest vote against Northam.

    1. Tonio

      The eternal glib dilemma – vote for the LP candidate to maintain automatic ballot access in hopes that someday, somewhere they will run an electable candidate, or vote for the least gun-grabby major party candidate.

      1. bacon-magic

        Look at the last two dbags they tried with…

        1. Tonio

          There were Libertarian candidates for governor and city council on my ballot.

          1. bacon-magic

            Local I usually vote yes on…the rest hell to the the no.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Hyra’s policy positions were barely libertarian. It was kind of sad.

      3. Spartan Dad

        I, and many others disgusted with the GOP after McDonnell, did this in 2013 by giving my vote to Sarvis (L). Cuccinelli (R) lost to McAuliffe (D) by about 1/3 of the votes that Sarivs received. At the time, I felt good about the message the GOP received about running Dem-lite candidates. Then the masked slipped and the Dems revealed themselves for a bunch of gun-grabbing communists. McAuliffe used every executive order he could to try to disarm Virginians. He vetoed bipartisan pro-gun bills. His AG tried to revoke CC reciprocity with other states.

        Cuccinelli may not have been even 1/100th as good as Sarvis, but he wouldn’t have gone after our guns. He likely would have signed the many bills VCDL got passed and ultimately vetoed. I am under no illusion that Gillseppie will be a good governor, but I’m realistically optimistic that he will advance gun rights when pushed, instead of the scorched earth policy that would follow under Northam.

        It is a difficult dilemma, but I think voting LP in the hopes of promoting them mainstream is ultimately a losing strategy, at least in tight races. More realistic would be infiltrating the Repub party after using Trump as a wrecking ball to knock a hole in the establishment. There is a void and momentum here if it could be taken advantage of.

        1. Vhyrus

          I have been saying that we need to run as manchurian candidates for awhile now. I know the term dog whistle has become a punchline but we need a legitimate dog whistle to let us know who the hidden libertarians are.

          1. The Last American Hero

            All a candidate needs to do is drop a Zardoz reference and that’s our dog whistle.

            For example, in a debate a candidate could say,”I’ve reviewed my opponent’s budget plan, and it’s got more problems than that Zardoz movie.”

    2. Just Say’n

      When you have to vote Republican, you know shit is bad

    3. Hyperion

      I have Glilepsie +4 right now. I guess I could sneak across the border and vote for him. When I show up I’ll just say ‘No Ingles’ but it’s raining.

      1. Vhyrus

        Just claim to be a woman and cry hysterically if they press you on it.

  31. Scruffy Nerfherder

    So in the bullshit moment of the day, I just heard the former White House photographer say that Obama’s didn’t like to have his picture taken, he was just grudgingly obliging.

  32. Tundra

    The plane that Halliday crashed.

    Icon A5 Amphib. The Icon site is being pounded, so have a review instead.

    Cool plane.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Neat

    2. Playa Manhattan

      Great for drug running.

      Er… sightseeing. I mean sightseeing.

      1. Tundra

        I’ve seen it up close. It better be light and compact drugs because it’s tight in there.

    3. bacon-magic

      Really cool.

    4. Juvenile Bluster

      He’s been flying for a little over a year. Had a license, multi-instrument rated, the whole shebang.

      He got that plane about a month ago. If you look at his twitter account, it was like he was a kid at Christmas, he was so excited about getting that plane.

      1. Tundra

        It looks to be a very forgiving plane, but amphibs can get you into trouble.

        Two of Icon’s top people died earlier this year.

        Pilot was taking off from a lake and fucked up about his location, ran out of room and boom.

        I’ll be interested to see what got Halliday. Gonna guess a fucked up landing.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I know that place well. He fucked up very badly.

      2. mikey

        “a little over a year”. A dangerous time – growing confidence no longer a little scared, but still really just a nooby.

    5. Lachowsky

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronca_Chief_family

      When I was a kid, My older brother, my father, and I built a 1939 Aeronca Chief. It took us about 2 years to do it. We finished when I was 13 or so. We flew that plane around for years. It was great.

    6. Dr Mossy Lawn

      You mean the “so easy to fly & you can’t stall it” Icon A5?

    7. Dr Mossy Lawn

      And the A5 is a recreational vehicle/water toy that happens to be able to fly.

      The sort of thing that you fly to the lake where you meet your buddies that drove the party boats overland.

      Too slow to be useful for travel. Too little weight capacity for more than a picnic. Can’t hang out in the water once you land, you need to beach it or tie up to a larger vessel. VFR flight only.

      If you need an amphib, how about a Lake Renegade?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Renegade

  33. Pope Jimbo

    Maybe Brett was going to turn a gator into a suitcase to hold his meth? That sounds right.

    1. Q Continuum

      Will he have enough left over to make a purse for his bottom bitch though?

    1. Q Continuum

      See my comment for post #40.

    2. bacon-magic

      Jeez he’s trying his best for 3 terms already. Too bad Trump, 2 terms only. Rules is rules.

    3. Vhyrus

      I DECLARE TODAY NATIONAL GLIB DAY!!

    4. Vhyrus

      REMEMBER REMEMBER 7 NOVEMBER

      1. bacon-magic

        Steve is that you?
        *question answered in the form of rape*

    5. Vhyrus

      LOL Salon is already REEEEEing over it. My god Trump is an endless spring of liberal tears.

      1. Q Continuum

        He is forcing the Pinkos to tear off their masks.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Ha! They’re suggesting he hates communism because he loves fascism.

      3. Gustave Lytton

        The Trump White House’s eagerness to condemn communism will likely please his base. Far-right politicians in Europe, especially in Hungary, frequently celebrate a day remembering the victims of communism.

        Yeah, because they’re far right, not because say THE COUNTRY WAS SLAMMED HARD BY THE SOVIETS. Taylor Link (she/he/it?) is a despicable piece of shit bootlicker slathering over the bloody cock of socialism. Once again projection- leftists act as apologists for murderous ideologies in the same way they accuse their opponents of doing (but other than a few nutjobs on the extreme fringe aren’t).

        1. Hyperion

          Well, I mean, as I’ve said countless times, this is the left. Sure, they changed their name from communist to progressive, trying to persuade that they have some new ideas. They have none, it’s the same old failed ideology of communism. And we should be surprised that they support… themselves?

    6. Tundra

      G_d, that’s good stuff.

      Well played, The Donald.

    7. Hyperion

      Just saw a video of them marching in the streets in Moscow, carrying posters of Stalin. Who murdered like 50 million Russians. You can’t make this shit up. There are a lot of people who were dropped on their heads at birth. Multiple times.

      1. thrakkorzog

        That’s state run healthcare for you. At least in private practice the nurses might get fired for dropping babies on their heads.

    8. Hyperion

      Well, the so called ‘public education’ which we spend out hard earned tax dollars on, sure as hell will not teach our children these lessons. Time to defund public education, including any funds going to universities.

      1. Raven Nation

        Speaking of public education, this is from Wikipedia’s Cultural Revolution page:

        “Though the effect of the Cultural Revolution was disastrous for millions of people in China, there were positive outcomes for some sections of the population, such as those in the rural areas. For example, the upheavals of the Cultural Revolution and the hostility to the intellectual elite is widely accepted to have damaged the quality of education in China, especially at the upper end of education system. However, the radical policies also provided many in the rural communities with middle school education for the first time, which is thought to have facilitated the rural economic development in the 70s and 80s”

        1. Gustave Lytton

          More dead bodies = less mouths to feed during a (self created) famine. Yay logic!

        2. kbolino

          However, the radical policies also provided many in the rural communities with middle school education for the first time, which is thought to have facilitated the rural economic development in the 70s and 80s

          God I hate this line of communist apologetics. (see: threads on H&R)

          How many places developed middle school without all the murder, forced labor, imprisonment, etc. that the communists employed? Never mind the “unintended” consequences of starvation, destitution, and just general suffering.

          It’s as though communism is a philosophical experiment to see what kind of social metrics need to cover up atrocities.

          1. Raven Nation

            Plus, I wonder why rural communities didn’t have middle schools by the 1970s? It’s a mystery.

  34. xenophon

    I posted a few weeks ago about a job opportunity and asked for advice. Someone — I can’t remember who — replied “Find a company to do it then mark up their bid by 20%.” So that’s exactly what I did.

    And it friggin’ worked.

    Is this what business is? Why I have I not done this sooner?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Welcome to retail

    2. Mad Scientist

      Ice cream’s on xenophon!

    3. Gilmore

      Is this what business is?

      more or less.

      you need to get yourself up to speed on the term “value-added”. Because that’s what you’re doing when you take your own job, and farm bits of it out to 3rd parties, and then deliver their output as your own creation, slightly spiced up.

      because what you’re doing is ‘adding value’. vetting vendors, screening offers, evaluating services, and serving as point-of-contact between ‘internal stakeholders’ and your external vendors is a large chunk of the mid-level corp world,

      1. Tundra

        Yes, and please, for the love of God, be proud of your price. People who hire you do so because they don’t want to deal with all the bullshit that Gilmore lists. I can make way more money if someone takes that shit off my plate. What I pay them is almost irrelevant. Don’t be shy (and always deliver).

        Great job!

        1. bacon-magic

          I got these suckas beat yo, let’s discuss at the strip club over a steak & lobster dinner and some hookers & blow for dessert.
          *gets in Lambo with plate “GetsPaid”*

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Bacon’s theme song

            https://youtu.be/oSPT27XyY1U

          2. Q Continuum

            Fuck that. The real way to make scratch is to have press conferences in which you promise wildly unrealistic things in socially virtuous sectors of the economy to score zillions in taxpayer subsides while delivering nothing of value.

            /Elon

  35. Brasidas

    If you drill a hole at the top of the mine, another at the bottom, and set the whole thing on fire with flammable liquid, won’t all the fondue pour out at the bottom.

    It totally worked that way in Cryptonomicon.

    Anyway, I have tech interview covering SQL tomorrow. I’m having a hard time imagining a middle ground between FizzBuzz and no one actually finishes actuary exams.

    1. Vhyrus

      How do you drill a hole at the bottom of a mine? where does the hole go?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I keep reading that as “mime”

      2. Hyperion

        It goes into hollow earth, duh!

      3. Brasidas

        Just one big shaft with a couple of branches. You’ll need some sort of pump to get the fondue out.

        I need better euphemisms.

    2. Mad Scientist

      I don’t know about mines, but that’s exactly how it works with mimes.

    3. commodious spittoon

      From what I recall, and it’s entirely possible I misrecollect, the bottom hole was the Golgotha entrance and the top was either superheated water pumped into the exit shaft Goto and the rest escaped from, or one or several of the vent shafts. I *think* the idea was to melt the precious metals and, between gravity and water pressure, force the molten metal mess through what would have been the impossible-to-excavate filled-in tunnels.

    4. robc

      mine was “design the tables and write as much sql as you can to answer the following”.

  36. Q Continuum

    More from the files of Literally… I Can’t Even

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RBE3Tut5xQ

    1. Q Continuum

      The fact that a cockroach has gotten more action from that girl than I ever will might be enough to push me over the edge…

      1. bacon-magic

        That fucking roach ruined it for me. Yuuuuuck. It wasn’t even one of the hissing ones, looked like an actual freaking nasty ass cockroach. Only plus is we saw her put a cock in her mouth.

      2. Tundra

        Gregor?

        1. Q Continuum

          As appreciated as he is, I still think Kafka is underrated. He is in my top 10 greatest writers of all time.

          1. Tundra

            My son is reading it in class right now. I read it again for the first time in many, many years and I agree with you 100%.

          2. Just Say’n

            Absolutely agree. One of the best authors of the 20th Century, by far

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      As a misophonic, I want to kill you now.

      1. Tundra

        Huh. Learned a new word today.

        I’m glad I didn’t click. Thanks, HM!

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Uhh, me so phonic!
          Uhh, me so phonic!

          Me love you long time?

      2. bacon-magic

        You mute the twerking videos?

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Of course! Don’t you?

  37. Just Say’n

    https://twitter.com/crampell/status/928021683931439109

    We’re screwed as a country, aren’t we?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Holy fuck

    2. Q Continuum

      I think that’s what we’ve learned to expect from our public education system.

    3. Vhyrus

      Henry Rollins told a story that he went to jury duty once and the judge (or whoever) was explaining “You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to be a juror. All you need to do is listen and have common sense.” A guy immediately raised his hand and said “I have no common sense.”

      1. That guy was just trying to get out of jury duty.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      So? And?

      What IS a Senator?

      I know in Canada we keep asking whether or not to kill the Senate.

      1. bacon-magic

        Don’t you work?

        1. Mad Scientist

          He’s on medical leave. Someone’s whole arm got wedged up his ass.

          1. Vhyrus

            What a muppet.

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          I work on life.

    5. F. Stupidity Jr.

      “It’s a fair question.” – Gary Johnson

    6. Hyperion

      Not even in the least bit surprised. If you showed a map of the world to recent high school graduates today, I bet more than 50% could not point out the USA to you. And I think I’m being optimistic at only over 50%.

  38. Q Continuum

    It’s almost as if they’ve replaced their religion with progressive virtue signaling…

    http://freebeacon.com/culture/princeton-jewish-center-cancels-israeli-minister-speech/

    1. Pan Zagloba

      From the comments:

      In a nutshell, the Democrats’ problem is marketing, i.e., being able to penetrate the bubble of alt-right media that surrounds rural voters.

      This has to be a Poe.

      1. Vhyrus

        No, sorry. Slate commenters are the real deal.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        I thought the left hates marketing.

    1. commodious spittoon

      I picked the wrong week to quit Twitter.

      Not really, this has been a great week to give up on Twitter. But Burge has always been a ray of sunlight in that undeserving world.

    2. Pan Zagloba

      As for me, I often pray to God for answers. Is there more I could have done to prevent Brian’s crushing and the arrests of the others? “No Dave,” God says. “We’re cool.”

      He’s like a G-rated SugarFree. A true master of the written form.

    3. Tundra

      I pondered the possibilities as I sobbed in the pickup bed a full 50 rock-solid alibi yards from the scene.

      He’s disgustingly talented.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I was just about to quote that.

    4. commodious spittoon

      Goddamn, that’s superb.

    5. Vhyrus

      I think I found HM’s twitter account.

      https://twitter.com/iball/status/927988677833379840

  39. commodious spittoon

    Albuquerque city council is voting on an ordinance to make panhandling on certain avenues and freeway ramps a misdemeanor offense. ACLU promises to sure. Not sure how I feel about the issue, other than annoyed by panhandlers (THEY’RE LEGION) but nonetheless leery about infringing on speech rights.

    1. Q Continuum

      We don’t want to run them off, they’re so fun to hunt!

      1. Vhyrus

        At least put in a bag limit.

  40. Spartan Dad

    Normally try to steer clear of Derp sites but stumbled across while trying to find updated info on the VA election. Some of the comments were actually reasonable by lucid Dems concerned about their party being hijacked by the progs. Others were like this piece of insanity in response to the pulled ad by the Latino Victory Fund:

    Grant Henderson Jim Breed • 6 hours ago
    It was a good ad and it was cowardly to pull it. Democrats need to learn that you cant win a culture war by playing defense. Its time to go after red necks in every way possible. Mock. Diminish. Attack. Ridicule.
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    AndrewR Grant Henderson • 6 hours ago
    That is an awful idea.

    Scapegoating poor people is not in the Democrat’s interest. I don’t think that’s in anybody’s interest, and morally wrong.
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    Grant Henderson AndrewR • 6 hours ago
    That is an idealistic attitude that will result in defeat. The Republicans managed to brand Democrats in the 90s as the party of poor uneducated urban losers looking for a handout. The GOP image was that of a Brooks Brothers attired professional. Which would an impressionable voter rather be? Time to flip the tables. “Other” the white working class. Associate being a Republican with being low class.

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      1. Hyperion

        It’s the Atlantic, which is a full on TDS leftist site, as well as are most of their commenters. Polls close at 7pm. I’m guessing it’s raining, dark, and dreary in NOVA, just like it is here.

    1. Vhyrus

      Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.

    2. commodious spittoon

      I tend to agree. Democrats should never play defensive. They should be the in-your-face culture war vanguard always and all the time. And this is in no way a self-serving suggestion on my part.

      1. Hyperion

        I’m right with you. They got to double down on them identity politics and they got to move way way far left, I’m talking Stalin, baby.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Stalin was a piker. I’m think Mao might even have been to conservative. Double up on both their worst features: call for mass political murder, but also for students to turn out their parents and professors for ritual public humiliation. Really sell that Communist crap. Fly your freak flag!

    3. Hyperion

      I’ve got Gillepsie at +4. Not predicting a win, but it’s certainly possible, just about as possible as it was for Trump to win. It’s very close.

    4. Viking1865

      “Other” the white working class. Associate being a Republican with being low class.

      A suggestion: Perhaps you could have the candidate say something labeling the supporters of the Republican as bigots, racists. You need a catchy word though, to sum up exactly how loathsome they are. A nasty descriptor that you could label them with, that would in no way serve as a rallying cry and a badge of honor.

  41. Juvenile Bluster

    Jesus Christ. If that quote doesn’t say narcissism…

    And they promoted this tweet! They paid for it to be at the top of my twitter feed!

    1. Hyperion

      I guess I don’t get it. We need hundreds of school lunch nannies? What?

      1. Hyperion

        Wait. ‘Wookie the School Lunch Nanny’. I think I just came up with the latest great band name.

    2. Vhyrus

      I think the best part is that for whatever reason they did not quote one of their paid sycophants saying that. They quote THEMSELVES saying it!

      The world needs 100 more Vhyruses

      -Vhyrus

    3. Did she really say that, and is their any context? the link under quote goes to some lefty looking site but has no more info on the quote, I could google it but I’m drunk and cooking.

      1. there not their, heysuess keyrist! I haven’t been drinking that long.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        It seems to be at a conference where she’s the keynote speaker.

        https://www.salesforce.com/dreamforce/speakers/

        1. Sure but did she actually say <a href="http://” title=”early days but yeah I got nothing” target=”_blank” >this, look’s like a ‘no’ to me.

    4. Florida Man

      Why docusign? I think people have sent me stuff for work from that company. By get political on the least political service I can think of?

  42. mexican sharpshooter

    *closes breaker on virtue signal*

    I voted.

    *opens breaker on virtue signal*

    1. Vhyrus

      On what? There was a vote today? What the fuck did I miss?

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Relax skippy. Its just a school district over ride. I voted for the children to be subjected to a lifetime of ignorance and death.

        1. Vhyrus

          The proper libertarian response.

  43. Vhyrus

    Vanity Fair has a Boehner that they wanna show ya!

    Or

    Old man yells at clouds.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Uffda. Talk about a bubble boy.

      “They’ll all rue the day they kicked my super important ass to the curb!”

    2. Chipwooder

      And that’s why your ass is out of office – your voters now realize how much you hate them. Right back atcha, you corrupt sack of shit.

      Trump sucks in many ways, but he brings so many unexpected benefits.

    3. wdalasio

      Why? That’s what I don’t get. Why the fuck would you cozy up to people who, just a few years ago would have no problem whatsoever calling you a piece of shit and spoon feed them material to trash your putative allies? I mean, I sincerely doubt its some sort of deep and abiding commitment to principle. If it were, you’d spend your time talking about your issues and beliefs, rather than talking about personalities. Just in terms of pure, naked, self-interest, it’s incredibly stupid. You’re effectively burning bridges with anyone who’s going to do anything for you.

      I really don’t get it. But, this sort of thing seems like a pattern with the GOP leadership.

      1. Vhyrus

        He’s an angry old man sitting in a nursing home yelling at anyone who will stop for 10 seconds to listen to him. VF wanted to show everyone how bad mean old Trump is and Boehner is the perfect useful idiot for the job.

        1. wdalasio

          He’s 67. He’s not really that old. That’s sort of what doesn’t make any sense. While I’ve never given him much credit as a profound and wise statesman or anything, I’d always kind of assumed he at least had the sort of animal cunning you’d expect from somebody who rises to the top in politics. But, this is just stupid. As I said, it pretty much alienates him from anyone who otherwise might have done a damned thing for him. I mean, there’s not a whole lot of sense in being a undisguised cronyist (and Boehner is) and then proceeding to isolate yourself from your cronies still in power.

      2. kbolino

        I was skeptical at first, but it increasingly looks like the GOP establishment at the national level really did/does consist of a) presidential candidates whose greatest aspiration was to read a fantastic concession speech and b) legislators whose greatest aspiration was to put their names on “bipartisan” (read: Democrat-approved) legislation.

        As to the why, I don’t think it’s all that complicated, but it seems to boil down to:

        1. It’s a social club for them; Democrat/Republican and even ideology is not as important as getting along with the other aristocrats;
        2. They don’t actually care for their own voters (consequence of 1), except when those interests align with their own (e.g. signing a pork-laden bill that funnels money to the home state/district);
        3. They believe, even while being elected as Republicans themselves, that the Democrats are essentially right*, that the electorate only puts Republicans in place because of dissatisfaction with Democrats, and that their job is to steward the progressive government until the rightful rulers are returned to the throne;
        4. They refuse to accept/recognize the asymmetry of their social interactions with Democratic officials (consequence of 3) and so exhibit “battered wife” syndrome; Obama badmouthing them and the Democrats passing the ACA without a single GOP vote were just unfortunate misunderstandings, rather than sincere expressions of ideological differences and a desire to politically dominate them.

        * = At least, the “within normal parameters” version of the Democratic platform. Basically, they’re Democrats, but 10 years behind the curve. Whereas, insofar as he has any ideology, Trump is a Democrat 20+ years behind the curve.

        1. kbolino

          That having been said, more assertive/representative Republicans are not inherently better from a libertarian POV. This is purely an assessment of the GOP leadership’s attitudes since ca. 2000.

        2. wdalasio

          Again, all of that would make sense in a certain way. And I’m not doubting it. But, this doesn’t even make sense from the perspective of a member of the club. He went out and insulted all of the members of the club in better standing than he is.

          1. kbolino

            members of the club in better standing than he is

            Ah, but that’s the thing. To Boehner (and who knows, he may be right) the club right now is just suffering from a transient aberration. The parliamentarians have taken over but the cavaliers are not defeated and have only been temporarily set back. Soon, the world will return to normal, the “anarchists” will be sent packing, and the status quo ante bellum will be restored.

    4. kbolino

      You know, once upon a time, “anarchist” meant somebody opposed to the existence of government (whether violently or otherwise). If all these elected Republicans who make Boehner cry are “anarchists”, they’re doing a piss-poor job of it. The Federal government will be essentially unchanged in 5 years time, never mind abolished.

  44. Vhyrus

    Cry progs, cry your tiny soulless iconoclast eyes out.

    Early Exit Polls: Virginia Voters Favor Keeping Confederate Monuments

    If this is any indicator about the governor’s race we better get the tear catchers out early.

    1. Mad Scientist

      That just proves they’re all racists!

    2. Hyperion

      Losing the independent voters that badly in these here time, is what is known as a death knell.

      My tear barrel orphans are on special notice standby…

    3. Chipwooder

      Ralph Northam called the negative ads run against him “despicable” and said he feels he has done enough to counter GOP governor candidate Ed Gillespie’s attacks.

      The balls on this fuckin’ guy

      1. Viking1865

        The NRA ads are my favorite. Northam bragging about his D rating on tape, and then the NRA narrator cuts in “He’s lying. We gave him an F rating. On November 7th, vote against Northam.”

  45. Left Hand of Radar

    I voted for a 21-year-old UofM student libertarian for Mayor of Minneapolis. Think he’ll win?

    1. Florida Man

      What’s a university of Miami student doing up there? He’ll freeze to death!

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Miami of Ohio?

        1. Florida Man

          I’ve told you, there’s no such thing.

          1. Hyperion

            It’s in Oxford, OH. Just a little northeast of Hamilton, close to the IN border. I used to hang out in that area a lot, so yes, it’s real.

          2. Florida Man

            Hitting the bottle early tonight, Hyp?

          3. Hyperion

            I was at a place me and my friends frequented one time. I was, I think 17. I can’t remember the name, but it’s a rural park and there’s a damn and there on a little river, maybe creek is a better word. So me and my friends are sitting on the broken damn, and downstream there’s like a little beach and there’s a dude and 2 chicks lounging there in swimwear. I was checking out the brunette in a black bikini, she was… thicc, and I kept imagining her naked. Then out of nowhere the dude goes ‘Hey, she wants to take her clothes off, do you guys mind? So one of my friends just yells out ‘FUCK NO!’, lol. So she stands up and take off her bikini. It was all I thought it would be. One of my memories of Oxford.

      2. Michigan. Left Hand of Radar voted for him to piss Sloopy off.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      No fucking way. He is competing against a gaggle of crazy progs the likes that haven’t been seen in decades.

      But it would be funny to see an upset and have him start rolling back the recent economic nonsense that has been going on in Mpls. Don’t forget Lefty, you can always move out to MG with Tundra and I if things get too bad.

      1. Left Hand of Radar

        Yeah, that was a brutal fucking ballot. All local–5 offices up-for-grabs and maybe two people on it (out of about 30) were not obviously completely retarded. As far as I could tell most of the Park Board candidates were running on a platform stating: “The Park Board needs to do a better job representing our most important stake-holders: homeless drug addicts!” Woof!
        How’s the weather in Maple Grove?

        1. Tundra

          Always sunny and the women are gorgeous.

  46. Rufus the Monocled

    I was just looking at the ‘you gotta fight for your right to party’ by The Beastie Boys on youtube and ventured into the comments and found the gem:

    Zidders Roofurry
    “Zidders Roofurry
    1 month ago
    It was fun but now that I’m older I realize there are a lot of issues with the music I grew up with. The song lyrics are OK but the video’s kinda messed up. Like the Beasties grabbing random women and kissing them without consent and the bit where the nerd gets pulled into the bathroom and raped. Mike D spiking the punch. It’s all pretty skeevy. The Beasties ended up distancing themselves from their rowdy image. Especially after MCA became a Buddhist.”

    Oh FFS, shut up and chill you cuck.

    1. Vhyrus

      Actually its ironic. I was watching a biography on Def Jam a few years ago and they brought this up specifically. One said something along the lines of ‘I think the Beastie Boys forgot who they used to be at one point.’

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        I’m sure they grew out of it. That’s normal. If they were still singing and partying like that in their 50s it wouldn’t, erm, feel right.

        1. Vhyrus

          1719L put out a very interesting piece about why rap is now a dominant music form and he postulates that the hypermasculinity which is a core of hip hop culture is a big draw to modern youth that are constantly told not to act like men.

          1. Gilmore

            rap is now a dominant music form

            as a rap fan, i would dispute this.

            i would counter the argument and say,
            “DJ music is now a dominant music form because it allows dudes to just be silent and pose and not have to do anything risky, and just let the guest-artist (usually a hot chick) do all the ‘bold’ stuff”

  47. Chipwooder

    God, if I could get just one race to go my way, please let it be that proggy piece of shit Mark Herring going bye bye.

    1. Viking1865

      If the GOP sweeps all three, maybe some of the progs will leave the Commonwealth.

      1. Vhyrus

        The chance of republicans winning in the northeast is smaller than an ant’s fart and twice as hard to find.

        1. Viking1865

          All 3 meaning our statewide races. There isnt a per se ticket here, the Gov, Liet Gov, and AG run seperate races.

          1. Vhyrus

            You do shit weird in your world.

        2. Spartan Dad

          Yet for some inexplicable reason I’m seeing MSM outlets describing the New Jersey election as “pivotal” and a referendum on Trump.

  48. commodious spittoon

    Reading The Innocents Abroad. Grandpa Simpson is Mark Twain:

    Tangier has been mentioned in history for three thousand years. And it was a town, though a queer one, when Hercules, clad in his lion skin, landed here, four thousand years ago. In these streets he met Anitus, the king of the country, and brained him with his club, which was the fashion among gentlemen in those days.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Progressives find a kindred spirit.

      The Emperor of Morocco is a soulless despot, and the great officers under him are despots on a smaller scale. There is no regular system of taxation, but when the Emperor or the Bashaw want money, they levy on some rich man, and he has to furnish the cash or go to prison. Therefore, few men in Morocco dare to be rich. It is too dangerous a luxury. Vanity occasionally leads a man to display wealth, but sooner or later the Emperor trumps up a charge against him—any sort of one will do—and confiscates his property. Of course, there are many rich men in the empire, but their money is buried, and they dress in rags and counterfeit poverty. Every now and then the Emperor imprisons a man who is suspected of the crime of being rich, and makes things so uncomfortable for him that he is forced to discover where he has hidden his money

      1. Lachowsky

        That’s not far off from the system of Athenian Democracy. When the Athenian state needed money, they would bring up treason charges against rich citizens in order to confiscate their property.

        1. Vhyrus

          Civil Asset Forfeiture has a rich history among ancient greek democracy.

        2. Pan Zagloba

          When was that done? I’m not an expert on Athens, but only thing that comes to mind is the Rule of Thirty.

          Trials in Athens were simple affairs – both sides present their case to the jury of dozens (or hundreds) of randomly selected people. If accused is found guilty, both parties present what they think is the fair punishment and jury votes again. Show trials to obtain money for The State are not well suited to such a system (unless you are Socrates and decide to tell the jury “Fuckers, kiss my ass publicly, like you’re gonna kill me”).

          Once Sparta abolished democracy and replaced it with Thirty Oligarchs, it was much, much easier to do such things.

          1. Lachowsky

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Socrates

            One of many along the same lines. Socrates got the death penalty. what is often not mentioned is that the Athenian death penalty also included a loss of all proberty, to be surrendered to the state.

  49. So thanks for the h/t Swiss.

    Thought you guys might get a kick out of this link: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/06/defense-department-health-committee-fda-drugs-military-244604

    If anyone can light a fire under the FDA and spur a bit of urgency, it’s DOD. (for better or for worse).

    The FDA has denied freeze-dried plasma to troops in the field for 10 years,” House Armed Services spokesperson Claude Chafin said, referencing a still-unapproved medical product that the Pentagon says is necessary to save the lives of military personnel. “The chairman has perfect moral clarity on this provision, and there is no doubt in his mind that it is the right thing to do for the troops.”

    FDA officials counter that creating a new pathway to approve drugs is both risky and — in the specific case cited by Thornberry — not needed. “FDA has been working closely with DoD to bring freeze-dried plasma to our troops and anticipates that these products will be fully approved for safe and effective use for our armed forces as early as 2018,” an FDA official told POLITICO.

    Section 732 of the Senate’s version of the National Defense Authorization Act creates a new regulatory structure that would allow the Pentagon to sign off on unapproved devices and drugs for emergency use on military personnel and others in harm’s way. The bill is in conference committee with final language expected as early as this week.

    Frankly, it’s not that big of a jump when it comes to actual servicemembers – it’s not as though we can sue the DoD when the military doctor cuts off the wrong foot or you die on the table….so why not let the folks take the risks (who are already taking the risks). Ooooh, FDA wants to stick to their shitty process…. Go get ’em Mattis!

    1. Playa Manhattan

      What part of EMERGENCY do they not understand?

      1. Vhyrus

        Do you really expect the tin gods at the FDA to care about a decade’s worth of dead soldiers from flyover? Get real.

    2. RAHeinlein

      As long as they are taking the risks voluntarily. Long history of military for human trials.

  50. Trigger Hippie

    The new phone book is here! The new phone book is here!

    I’ve waited years to try this(was supposed to get it a few months ago but was instead fed a line of bullshit).

    https://www.leafly.com/sativa/durban-poison

    1. Hyperion

      What is a phone book? Is that a new phone that turns into a tablet? I heard that Samsung are working on those.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Actually, it turns a phone into an abacus, then a stack of cans.

        Stay away from the cans.

  51. Mythical Libertarian Woman

    I did an interview with Publishers Weekly today and I called some SJWs that piss me off privileged. Just because I knew that would hurt their feelings the most. I hope they print it and those cucks check their privilege and feel bad about themselves.

    How’s your week going, Glibs? I have no clue what day it is but I’m ready for the weekend!

    1. Vhyrus

      Theyre going to dox you, and then find this place, and then you become mythical shitlord MAGA woman.

      1. Mythical Libertarian Woman

        I’m ready to ascend my throne as God-Queen.

        1. Tundra

          *bends knee*

          1. creech

            Isn’t bended knee now a sign of disrespecting our flag and the military?

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            *genuflects*

          3. Tundra

            Jesus christ…

            *prostrates himself*

            Better?

          4. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Just drop trou and bend over. Take your leadership like a man.

          5. Bobarian LMD

            aka Prostate yourself

        2. Florida Man

          As long as you are cruel and capricious, I can support you as god-queen.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Only then will her true powers be revealed. MWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAaaaaaaaa

      3. Hyperion

        They’d better watch their fucking asses trying to dox libertarians. There are a LOT of techie geeks among libertarians, they’ll get themselves doxed right the fuck back, they’d better be careful who they fuck with.

        1. Vhyrus

          I think that’s the interesting thing. We generally a) aren’t ashamed to fly our freak flag and b) own guns. We’re not dox proof but were pretty close.

          1. Florida Man

            One thing I’ve learned, if someone tries to dox you for some off color joke or something, tell them to fuck of and never ever apologize.

          2. One thing I’ve learned, if someone tries to dox you for some off color joke or something, tell them to fuck off and never ever apologize.

          3. MikeS

            Hey Hyperbole! Fuck off!

          4. Aye, aye, Fucking off.

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Brilliant! No one will suspect you!

      Vladimir Voinovich in his Chonkiniad series has a character in Stalinist USSR who rises through the ranks by denouncing wreckers, saboteurs, enemies of the People and counter-revolutionaries. Twist: he is a committed anti-Communist who realized he can use anonymous tips to sabotage the Soviet Union by taking out any decent, hard-working, intelligent or educated Communists who look like they are fixing things. And the more decent etc. they are, the harder they fall.

      His downfall happens when, at a drinking party, he slips up because he can’t believe people who surround him don’t hate the revolution as much as he does, so he quotes some Virgil in Latin to them. He is now marked as “educated” and, as such, purged. Still, he proudly proclaims, he killed hundreds with a simple pencil.

      1. Florida Man

        he killed hundreds with a simple pencil.

        John Wick?

  52. Hyperion

    Interesting so far, but Fairfax county is starting to report, and Hydra is doing far better there than anywhere else.

    1. Vhyrus

      HEIL HYDRA!

      1. Hyperion

        I actually lol’d.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The Richmond Times has a good summary, but very few of the districts have reported yet,

      http://www.richmond.com/news/election-results/governor/

      1. Hyperion

        About 10% so far. Fairfax has actually started to come in now, it’s of course what to watch. Gillespie is up at the moment by about 5%.

        1. Hyperion

          And of course Loudon which is not reporting yet.

          1. Hyperion

            Now reporting…

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          It’s already apparent that the Democrats have completely lost the southwest part of the state. But that doesn’t count for much in terms of actual numbers.

          1. Hyperion

            So, what’s going on is that Northram is now up by a good margin, about 2%, but all of NOVA has already reported and a lot of the redneck portions have not, so it should be interesting.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            One can hope. If that idiot Fairfax gets elected, it’s a bad sign for the state.

        3. Spartan Dad

          Interestingly Giles county is showing as 100% democrat at about 300 votes so far.

          I know nothing about Giles county but it looks likes a tiny county, very deep in rural, red country. I understand these are early reports, but how would they be showing 100% for the Dems right off the bat? It’s just kind of weird, none of the other precincts across the entire map look like that.

          1. Spartan Dad

            Never mind, I pulled the results by locality directly from the department of elections and it looks nothing like that. It’s what I get for looking at NYT map.

          2. thepasswordispassword

            Absentee voting skews pretty heavily Dem doesn’t it? Might’ve had those mail-in ballots pre-counted.

          3. kbolino

            Absentee voting skews pretty heavily Dem doesn’t it?

            It’s funny, the things that trigger accusations of bias.

            STEM programs have a much lower proportion of women than the population = sexist
            Absentee ballots go much harder for the Dems than in-person voters = nothing to see here, move along

          4. Florida Man

            I thought in national elections absentee ballots trend conservative because of all the overseas military voters.

          5. kbolino

            I could see that. I also may have been conflating absentee votes with early votes in my head.

          6. Spartan Dad

            That’s a good point!

        4. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Gah! The AG race is neck and neck.

          1. kbolino

            I have never seen any positive outcomes from Attorneys General being elected. You get the same level of corruption, but now with a heaping helping of pandering!

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I just want to see Herring go. He’s an affront to the 2nd Amendment.

          3. kbolino

            Best of luck. I live in Maryland. Dem AG is guaranteed, even when we have a Republican governor.

    3. Chipwooder

      This is looking ugly for Gillespie – he’s losing NoVa by bigger margins than Trump

      1. Vhyrus

        Yeah… no liberal tears today, just some conservative ones.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I can hear the talking points now.

          This marks a turn against Trump!

          The country has come to its senses!

          1. Vhyrus

            I was really hoping this was going to put a nail in the coffin of this repudiate trump bullshit too. Oh well.

          2. Chipwooder

            My state is permaboned because of fucking DC

          3. Winston

            Libertarian moment! / Jon Voght Lebeaume

            Said guy got about 10% in DC city council

          4. Chipwooder

            I’m guessing only a Sarwack-type “libertarian” is pulling 10% in a DC council election

          5. Winston

            You know if cosmotarianism is the way of the future then why don’t the urbanites yutes vote for them?

      2. Spartan Dad

        Looks like the Lt Gov and AG are much tighter races. That’s interesting. I wonder if it is a dislike for Gillespie or a dislike for Fairfax and Herring.

        1. Winston

          What is the thing with Confederate statues?

      3. Viking1865

        NoVA is government ville. They have to stamp out this Swamp Draining Nonsense right now.

        1. Winston

          So immigration….

  53. Winston

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/11/01/spac-n01.html

    Sex scandals have invariably been the province of the far right. Nothing remotely progressive will come out of this.

    1. mikey

      Never heard Bill Clinton called “right wing” before.

      1. Winston

        I think they are saying the right are the ones promoting these scandals.

        Also world Socialists are the type I think would think of Bill as rightwing.

  54. MikeS

    @ Tundra et al. regarding the scotch recommendations from the other night; I went to the store and got some Scotch. They have a nice collection of 50ml’s. I got a Glenlivet Founder’s Reserve and a Glenmorangie 12 year.

    Sipping the Glenlivet now and it turns out I don’t hate Scotch. In fact…I may actually like it!

    1. Florida Man

      I’ve tried a few. I just can’t get into scotch. Which drives me nuts because there are a million scotches but only a handful of Rye whiskeys. Oh well. *pours another Bulliet’s Rye*

      1. MikeS

        Rye is still my favorite. Here are the Ryes I have in my growing liquor cabinet. I enjoy them all. Some a little more than others.

        High West Rendezvous Rye
        High West Double Rye
        Knob Creek
        Bulleit
        George Dickel
        Rough Rider Bull Moose
        Woodford Reserve
        Crown Royal
        Sazerac

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Rye has got to be my favorite brown liquor. I love scotch too but there’s something about it, the smoke maybe, that makes a scotch hangover absolutely blistering for me.

  55. Heroic Mulatto

    Sometimes I think my cat is a bit of a queer, not there’s anything wrong with that of course. It’s just that he’s affectionate. Like super affectionate. He’s always trying to sit on my lap and rub his face on me. It’s suspect behavior if you ask me. Like, I get it. We’re bros and all, but even bros have to have boundaries. One time I was napping on my couch and he just jumps on my chest and rubs my face with his nose. And during this he was purring constantly, as though he was enjoying it. Isn’t that a sign of deviant behavior? He didn’t even say “no homo,” which of course would’ve made everything alright. When I change my clothes he watches me, and whenever I take a piss, he’s always weaving in between my legs and rubbing up against them. Like dude, my cock is out. Show some goddamn respect for my privacy. He even sleeps in the same bed as me if I forget to shut my door at night. Am I crazy, or is all that a tad odd? My cat and I have a good thing going on, and I’m worried that his latent homosexual tendencies are going to ruin things between us.

    1. MikeS

      You should really save this for the ASK ZARDOZ feature.

      1. Q Continuum

        What is ZARDOZ’s policy on pets?

      2. Florida Man

        Cleanse the brutal know as “the cat”
        ZARDOZ HAS SPOKEN!

    2. JaimeRoberto

      My cat does a lot of the same things, but he’s neutered, so it’s totally not gay.

  56. Winston

    Spartan Dad, what on earth made you think the Dems aren’t gun grabbing commies?

    1. Spartan Dad

      I’ve never thought they weren’t. I was just pointing out that all pretense dropped with McAuffie and Herring, and an active play was made. A VA democrat used to be a lot different than a NY or CA democrat. McAuffie and Herring brought the deepest blue playbook to VA, likely due to unprecedented (at the time for VA) funding from Bloomberg and Soros.

  57. Winston

    So what will the 2020 Bill Weld LP campaign be? Promise to not drop out before election day?

    1. AlmightyJB

      His campaign slogan will be “Hillary Clinton is my best bud”.

  58. Winston

    So if Republicans are Dems 10 years behind the curve than is the LP 10 years behind the Republicans?

    1. MikeS

      Short answer: No.

      Long answer: Fuck no.

    2. kbolino

      The LP establishment is more like Democrats 5 years behind the curve, but with some modifications. They’re not as gleeful about taxation, or gun confiscation, or restricting speech. But, unfortunately, they’re not definitely opposed to those things, either.

      1. kbolino

        Honestly, it’s hard to find “the” distinguishing characteristic of the LP these days, except that a) they’re nominally not Democrats or Republicans, b) they’re not communists, and c) they’re not conservatives. Things I used to associate with them, like “anti-war”, or “pro-freedom”, might be heavily touted in their platform but don’t seem to be reflected in the public statements of the party’s officials and nominees.

  59. Lachowsky

    I wonder at times if we treat at the left disproportionatly badly in these boards. The common thought here is that the left has gone off the rails. I agree, but I wonder if I believe that only because I have read too many derptologist posts.

    Is there an equal amount of derp worthy posts from the right. I’m sure there is. I guess the question is, how much has the derp infected the right vs how much has the derp infected the left. I think the left is more afflicted with derp than the right, but I can’t he sure.

    1. MikeS

      I’ve been pondering the same. My theory is that yes, there is just as much derp on the right, but the right derp hasn’t creeped it’s way into mainstream like the left derp has. So the right derp is much easier to miss/ignore.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        This is pretty much it. There are astounding amounts of derp on the right, but the derp on the left is just so much more visible.

      2. thrakkorzog

        I think that’s part of it. I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who think fossils were planted by Satan to trick us all. The thing is that the Rev, Moses McBeardface’s ill informed thoughts on paleontology aren’t published in the NYT or taught at Ivy league colleges. Nor are they likely to become an issue with HR. But get an X-studies degree, pontificate on the glories of communism, and you will never have a problem finding a like minded group to praise your brilliance.

    2. kbolino

      In addition to my comment on your Gilmore’d version of this post, I think many people who comment here are pro-property rights, pro-gun rights, and pro-free speech; those values, while not always or strictly anathema to the left, are currently not enjoying mainstream support among the left. That makes it difficult to relate.

      1. Winston

        Hard to make a go with the left when they increasingly are pro-communist and anti-free speech.

      2. Lachowsky

        The right is good on some things (not the elected right, but the right masses) The left is good on some things (not the elected left but the masses)

        My view is that the massed right is better on things I care about (property rights, taxes, welfare) than the things that the(massed) left I agree with are (drugs, cops, civil liberties)

        1. Akira

          I’ll give the Left props for actually talking about police violence, but until they start talking about the chief enabler of murderous cops – police unions – then they’re going to be a day late and a dollar short.

          Government employee unions OWN the Democrat Party, so the last thing they want is for people to start wondering, “if unionization has such a bad effect on police, maybe it’s similarly detrimental for other government agencies…

    3. Winston

      I’m sure the alt-right has some pretty nasty stuff. Difference is the Right still has some anti-government sentiment left whereas the left seems to have become totally dropped the mask while in opposition when they have tried in the past to be somewhat libertarian.

    4. AlmightyJB

      We’ll it’s a quantity thing I believe. There is no question there is a ton of retardation coming from the right. But I think the left derptards utilize social media to a much greater extent to propagate their message. Also, there are a lot more major websites dedicated to lefttardism, not to mention the major media who are spin doctors or at least apologist for communism, feminism, race baiting and post-modernism. There is very little mainstream support or apologetics for idiocy from the right. Attacking the right is so ubiquitous it’s almost not worth pyling on.

      1. AlmightyJB

        I think another factor is that of the major political ideologies in play in the US, socialism is the one that is the most polar opposite of Libertarianism. Are there right-wing authoritarians in this country as well? Sure, but they’re not nearly as relevant.

        1. Lachowsky

          Attacking the right is so ubiquitous it’s almost not worth pyling on.

          You have a point there. I lament that the attacks on the right have been boiled down to nothing but, RACIST! MYSOGINIST! HOMOPHOBE! ZENOPHOBE!

          Actual dialogue would be great.

    5. Q Continuum

      The Left is dangerous because it has unquestioning support from popular culture, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, academia and the media. They are the more clear and present danger to freedom in the US. That’s not to say that we should give the Right a pass when they support anti-freedom ideas, but the Left is the bigger threat at the moment.

      Left and right, IMO, are largely artificial anyway; it’s all about freedom vs. authoritarianism. We need to fight the latter and promote the former anywhere we find it.

      1. AlmightyJB

        “The Left is dangerous because it has unquestioning support from popular culture, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, academia and the media.”

        That’s the interesting thing about Trump. Who’s more dangerous? Someone who gets the unquestioning support of those groups as well as the political establishment or someone who is constantly questioned and criticized by the same? As much as I despise Trump, it’s kind of nice to have everyone else despise the president too.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Interesting how similarly our replies are:)

          1. AlmightyJB

            Now I’m hungry

        2. Winston

          Until a Democrat is back in the White House them you are a bigoted hater still…

          1. AlmightyJB

            It’s also interesting how “speaking truth to power” is speaking out against the left.

    6. John Titor

      Go read John Wright’s blog, specifically the ones titled ‘The Last Crusade’. My response tends to be “Jesus, born-again right-wing Catholics are fucking nuts.” The difference between him and SJWs is that Wright is actually well educated so at least he comes off as rational once and awhile, when he’s not ranting about the evils of ‘secularism’.

      I tend to like Wright’s work, but when the man goes preacher it’s just crazy sandwich board stuff. Classic ‘the fanatical convert’ syndrome.

  60. Chipwooder

    Great, a fucking Socialist got elected to the House of Delegates. Apprarently its going to be time to start planning to get the fuck out of this state soon.

  61. Juvenile Bluster

    So not only is Northam winning big, but it’s looking like a better than decent chance that the Democrats will take control of the House of Delegates in VA. That one would be a surprise.

    1. Chipwooder

      Can’t wait to see my taxes skyrocketing next year!

    2. Winston

      Better look after your wallet and your guns.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        A couple of the few good things about living in Florida.

  62. Juvenile Bluster

    De Blasio re-elected in NYC for some reason, and the stupid attempt at a constitutional convention in NY is getting crushed.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Who was behind the convention stuff? Was it people wanting to affirm rights or pare them off?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        It would’ve been fair game for everything — rewriting the entire state constitution — in a deep blue state. You figure out how that would have went.

      2. thrakkorzog

        From what I understand, it was kind of a tea party-ish attempt to to reform the state constitution to get rid of some of the more Progressive bits out of the state constitution. Most notably special privileges for public sector pensions. So The unions hated it.

        On the other side, a lot of people on the right argued that since they couldn’t really set the agenda beforehand, it was entirely possible that it could be hijacked by the left, and the NY state constitution could enshrine ever more ‘rights’ as determined by NYC, so it probably wasn’t a good idea to go opening that box.

        At least that is what I gathered from the Cliff’s notes version of the debate I’ve read.

        1. Winston

          How would the delegates be chosen?

      3. The state constitution itself was behind it. The review vote has to be on the ballot every 20 years.

        Left-statist groups were the ones more on the YES side, however. (Some of them, as a lot opposed it on the grounds that lefty protections already in the constitution might get taken out.)

  63. Rufus the Monocled

    Am I reading right? Democrats won NJ and Virginia?

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      You are.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Virginia and New Jersey both went Clinton.
      The Dem candidates for Governor seem to be beating Clinton’s margin in both states by a few percentage points.

    3. Winston

      2018 and 2020 dem victories confirmed/ MSM

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      “…This is, at its core, the problem with libertarianism. Libertarians don’t want to follow the rules that we as a society have agreed upon, because they feel those rules step on their freedoms.”

      Jack Moore is the real asshole.

      1. Tundra

        More of cunt, really.

      2. MikeS

        Yeah, but he closed with this:

        Now, I don’t want to excuse the other side of this. One of the problems with Democrats is we’ve never met government oversight that we didn’t like. And there’s a good metaphor for Democratic politics in the obnoxious Home Owners Association rules that drive everyone crazy. So it sure seems like this Rene Boucher was also an asshole, who cared way too much about what his neighbor’s yard looked like.

        I’d say he was being about as even-keeled as an asshole leftist can be.

    2. thepasswordispassword

      Literally blaming the victim

  64. Q Continuum

    For those who haven’t seen “Into The Abyss”, watch it immediately. I haven’t seen anything that visceral in a long time.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Hey, I remember that. That’s the one with the liquid oxygen, right?

      1. Q Continuum

        Negative. Werner Hertzog about a death row inmate.

        1. commodious spittoon

          I went with a girlfriend to see Cave of Forgotten Dreams in 3D several years ago. Loved that girl. Great sex. Dunno if it was the Hertzog, but he didn’t hurt. Good film, too.

  65. Winston

    So any Libertarians elected in New York City Council? Why not?

    1. Winston whined.

      1. Winston

        So why the lack of libertarians at the local level?

  66. Winston

    Are libertarians complacent? Or deluded even? Gushing about technology and wealth yet socialism and welfarism still prevails. Seem to think happy thoughts will lead to progs not calling them evil if they ever gained power.

    1. thrakkorzog

      I’m as willing to storm the barricades of government as the next man. Unfortunately, the next man wants me to hold his beer and watch this while he storms the barricades by himself.

      So I’m just going to walk away, and hey, free beer.

  67. Juvenile Bluster

    Miami entering the race to go the way of Chicago and Detroit. Passed a $400 million bond to “combat sea rise” and do a lot of other shit politicians love. City’s already in massive debt, they have a couple billion in future obligations because of that damn baseball stadium and not only are the fire and police pensions underfunded, they apparently owe the pension funds $250 million they were supposed to pay but didn’t.

  68. Winston

    New Zealand PM is a republican who supports pot and gay marriage.

    1. Winston

      Agnostic too. Reason favorite?

    2. MikeS

      Hmmm…Interesting. But, what’s his position on Mexicans?

      1. Winston

        More refugees but less immigrants.

      2. MikeS

        Hmmm…Interesting. But, what’s his her position on Mexicans?

        1. Q Continuum

          I’m thinking from behind; that is the easiest way to put the penis into the anus.

          1. MikeS

            Reverse Cowboy should also be pretty easy

    3. Juvenile Bluster

      And she’s kind of cute in the right picture.

      1. commodious spittoon
    4. Winston

      Also said capitalism is a blatant failure due to homelessness. Need I mention that new Zealand is no. 3 in the heritage foundation economic freedom list?

  69. Winston

    So in the last NYC election a single Libertarian ran for city council and got 0.8%

    1. Winston

      The libertarian running for city council is getting about 2% Libertarian moment I tell you.

  70. Raston Bot

    GOP incumbents getting their asses kicked in Va’s House.

    Folks are changing around these parts. When/if the climate on taxes and guns swings, then the bot family will relocate.

  71. Raston Bot

    https://wtop.com/virginia/2017/11/virginia-house-delegates-results-democrats-republicans/

    10 seat gain by Dem candidates who are a lot of bureaucrats and govt contractors. Does not strike me as a healthy demographic for free will, free association, and liberty overall.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      As someone who lives in what was once a red-purple state (years before that was the divisor) that now trends an ever deeper shade of blue, I’m sorry.

  72. straffinrun

    A group of Japanese high school girls just walked past me singing Frozen. Cultural appropriation?

    1. Gustave Lytton

      If you ogle them, is that also cultural appropriation?

  73. thrakkorzog

    That depends. Did they have naturally black or brown hair? If it was one way it was all good, if it was the other way, it was totally cultural appropriation.

    Also seriously, WTF Japan?

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Gotta keep those schoolkids in line. Give them an inch and it’s over.

  74. Juvenile Bluster

    Taking a break from politics, that ESPN 30 for 30 on Ric Flair was incredible.

  75. Juvenile Bluster

    Back to politics, update on the House of Delegates in VA

    We’re about to wrap this live blog, but here’s the current count for the Virginia House of Delegates. There are 100 seats, and Democrats currently hold 48, Republicans 47.

    Here are the five outstanding races that will determine control — and may be in recount territory:

    House District 27 (Chesterfield County): Del. Roxann Robinson (R) is up by 129 votes.
    House District 28 (Fredericksburg): Bob Thomas (R) is up by 86 votes.
    House District 40 (Fairfax): Donte Tanner (D) is up by 68 votes.
    House District 68 (Richmond): Dawn Adams (D) up by 316 votes.
    House District 94 (Newport News): Del. David Yancey (R) up by 12 votes.

    If every one of these races breaks to the current leader, Virginia would have a 50-50 House of Delegates come January.

  76. Winston

    https://niskanencenter.org/blog/public-policy-utopia/

    Shorter Will Wilkinson: TOP MEN

    Uncertainty about the details of the freest feasible social scheme opens you up to looking at evidence in a genuinely curious, non-biased way. And it frees you from the anxiety that genuine experts, people with merited epistemic authority, will say things you don’t want to hear. This in turn frees you from the urge to wage quixotic campaigns against the authority of legitimate experts. You can start acting like a rational person! You can simply defer to the consensus of experts on empirical questions, or accept that you bear an extraordinary burden of proof when you disagree.

    1. Winston

      What we need are folks who are passionate about freedom, or social justice (or what have you) who actively seek solutions to domination and injustice, but who also don’t think they already know exactly what ideal liberation or social justice look like, and are therefore motivated to identify our real alternatives and to evaluate them objectively.

      What the fuck? Pretty utopian for a guy who complains about utopian.

    2. Winston

      Also a bunch of gobbledygook about how the “liberal democratic welfare state” is awesome and how TOP MEN will somehow save it from socialists, populists and libertarians.

  77. DOOMco

    So that fucking ad worked???

    1. I personally suspect this is sort of a one-off, a show of force from the disgruntled high concentration of the bureaucratic class, expressing their frustration with the election of Trump and complacency in expecting a HRC win in 2016.

      1. The NoVa thing is a big deal here – look at the color map by counties/districts like the US and it shows a lot.

        1. I do think it’s a one-off type of situation though. Only MD is also so filled to the brim with bureaucrats. It doesnt look lije evidence of a growing national trend, but that wont Stop the chattering classes from citing this election as a change in the tide.

  78. BTW, haven’t been able to find who won our local Rio supervisors race in Albemarle county. I voted for the guy I saw in the paper who put himself up as a write-in option because he didn’t want to see someone run unopposed – John Miska. He also supports vets and looks like old man river. Why the hell not. Weird that that seems to be the only race not listed.

    http://www.nbc29.com/category/88108/decision-2017-election-results