SEA SMITH’S VETERAN’S DAY NIGHT LINKS

STEVE SMITH LET COUSIN SEA SMITH HAVE ANOTHER GUEST LINK NIGHT. SEA SMITH CLOSEST THING TO VETERAN THAT SMITH FAMILY HAVE. HE ONCE TRY AND RAPE USSR SUBMARINE DURING COLD WAR. LET HIM TELL ABOUT IT.

SEA SMITH VS SUBMARINE?

SEA SMITH ONCE RAPE KILO CLASS SOVIET SUBMARINE. SEXY TORPEDO TUBES JUST ASKING FOR IT! SEA SMITH HEAR SUBMARINE MANAGE MAKE IT BACK TO PETROPAVLOVSK, WHERE TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE…FOR GOOD. ONCE YOU GO SEA, YOU NEVER BE FREE! SEA SMITH EVEN HEAR SHARKS TRY FUNNY STUFF. SEA SMITH RAPE SHARKS WHEN NOTHING ELSE AROUND.

BUT YOU NO WANT TO HEAR SEA SMITH TALES OF OCEAN RAPE…YOU WANT LINKS! COUSIN STEVE SMITH TELL HOW SILLY GLIBERTARIAN PEOPLE LIKE LINKS. LIKE MAKING FUNNY REMARKS AND OWN LINKS MORE, BUT THAT UP TO THEM. SO SEA SMITH GIVE YOU LINKS, AND YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT FROM THERE.

  • SEA SMITH CANNOT WEAR POPPIES, SO HE PUT THIS LINK UP INSTEAD.
  • SEA SMITH MIGHT HAVE TO CALL UNCLE MAPINGUARI TO HELP OUT.
  • SEA SMITH SHOCKED GOVERNMENT SCREWING UP – SPECIAL VETERANS DAY SCREW UP!
  • THIS BEWILDER SEA SMITH. LAND PEOPLE WANT THIS?!

SEA SMITH SAY COME ON IN, THE WATER IS RAPE…ER, FINE! HAVE GOOD NIGHT, SILLY GLIBERTARIAN PEOPLE.

 

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242 responses to “SEA SMITH’S VETERAN’S DAY NIGHT LINKS”

  1. KSuellington

    That is amazing that there is so much gun crime in Brazil. They have made it almost impossible to legally own a gun there. Unbelievably the criminals still have them!

    1. Report to Room 101, Citizen!

      1. KSuellington

        Years back I spent a couple years in Brazil teaching English and traveling around. My third day there a guy was shot and killed across the street from the apartment where I was staying. A large percentage of the Brazilians that I met had at least one tale of a gun being pointed at their head. I was only ever robbed at knifepoint and by roofies thank god.

        1. I was only ever robbed at knifepoint and by roofies thank god.

          Go on…

          1. KSuellington

            The knife robbery was by a ten year old kid. The roofies were put in my drink, a buddy’s drink and a Brazilian woman’s drink by two other chicks. After half a roofied caipirinha my friend and the other drugged girl started making out on the couch and he had her shirt off. I jumped on top of them and then wondered why I was so fucked up. I looked over at the other two and they were just laughing at us I tried to get up and get them out of the apartment but by that point I could not stand. I woke up 10 hours later in my underwear. Thankfully they only got my cash, travellers cheques and some of my dignity. My ass was still virgin and i had all organs.

          2. westernsloper

            I woke up 10 hours later in my underwear

            Been there. That story is not near as interesting as yours though.

          3. Brochettaward

            My ass was still virgin and i had all organs.

            As far as you know.

    2. Rhywun

      F1 and the teams need to do more.

      Not scheduling events in Brazil would seem like a good start.

      1. westernsloper

        Whoa there Mr Common Sense. Let’s not jump to conclusions.

        1. Rhywun

          And don’t get me wrong – never been but I like Brazil and wish better for the folks who live there. But I don’t think I would want to live there. And I would be very leery to visit.

  2. SEA SMITH RAPE EDIT FERRY!

  3. Do we know the Mercedes team in Brazil weren’t just making shit up like Ryan Lochte?

  4. Juvenile Bluster

    Today was fun. Woke up with what I thought was a stomachache and by 11 am was in some of the worst pain I can remember being in my entire life. Went to urgent care, urgent care sent me to the ER, a CT scan and some very welcome pain medicine later I’ve got a kidney stone. How the fuck does a tiny little thing like that (4 mm according to the doctor) cause this much pain? Currently doped up on more pain meds.

    And Syracuse decided not to bother putting a defense on the field in the second half for some reason.

    Fun day.

    1. KSuellington

      Damn. Those things are supposed to be some intense f’n pain. Hope it passes quickly.

    2. My dad had a 27mm stone in his bladder.

      1. westernsloper

        Wow. That is massive. I hope he kept it for a paper weight or a door stop.

        1. They broke it into smaller stones before they could catheter him and remove the smaller stones.

          (And that’s only 1-1/16″. No good as a door stop, and not even really a paper weight.)

          1. westernsloper

            I know how big 27mm is, but thanks for ruining my joke. Sheesh. So literal Ted is.

          2. It wasn’t funny, anyway.

          3. westernsloper

            But your comma placement is. Damn.

          4. Yusef drives a Kia

            What an asshole

      2. CPRM

        I’ve been told, when my grandma died her whole kidney was a stone…not sure if I believe it…

    3. DEG

      Sorry.

    4. mindyourbusiness

      JB, I can sympathize. Had ’em when I was much younger. Amputations may be more fun.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        My Wife would beg to differ

  5. Derpetologist

    More pants-wetting from National Interest:

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-5-most-cost-effective-investments-defense-trump-should-18397

    ***
    President Trump’s ability to protect the American people and their homeland from attack, secure vital economic and political interests overseas and establish satisfactory relationships with countries such as Russia, China, North Korea and Iran will depend, in large part, on the credibility of U.S. military forces. Simply put, if competitors, prospective adversaries and so-called crazy states believe that no military options exist by which they can achieve their objectives, their only choice will be negotiations and compromise.

    The problem is that the U.S. has spent nearly two decades investing in capabilities for counter insurgency but not for other types of conflict. This made sense at the time; the prospects for state-on-state conflicts seemed to have diminished significantly while violent jihadists were threatening to conquer entire countries. The U.S. military overall and our Special Forces, in particular, are really good at counter-terrorism, both technologically and operationally. But we underinvested in high-end conventional and strategic capabilities.
    ***

    We never seem to have enough expensive toys to satisfy the armchair generals.

    1. Derpetologist

      The author: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzFUJC6WFb4

      ***
      Dan Gouré is the Vice President of the Lexington Institute, a thinktank based in Arlington, Virginia, and an analyst on national security and military issues for NBC. He has worked as an Adjunct Professor in the National Defense University’s Homeland Security program under the SNSEE since 2003.[1] He is a member of the Department of Homeland Security’s advisory board.[2]

      Gouré received a degree in Government and History from Pomona College, an MA in International Relations and Russian Studies from Johns Hopkins University, and a PhD in International Relations and Russian Studies from Johns Hopkins.[1]

      He served as the director of the Office of Strategic Competitiveness in the Office of the Secretary of Defense for two years and then served as the Deputy Director of the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. He worked as a member of the 2001 Department of Defense Transition.[1]

      He has taught at Johns Hopkins University, Georgetown University, the Foreign Service Institute, the National War College, the Naval War College, the Air War College, and the Inter-American Defense College.[1]

      He is the son of Sovietologist Leon Gouré.

      On 30 November 2005, he defended the Department of Defense’s practices of providing news stories for Iraqi newspapers.[3]

      Gouré has called on the United States to produce “several thousand” theater and tactical nuclear weapons. He also supports the production of several thousand nuclear-capable Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II stealth tactical fighter-bombers.[4]
      ***

      Christ, what an asshole.

      1. And this is the sort of shit that populates northern Virginia by the hundreds of thousands.

    2. juris imprudent

      The armchair generals also never seem to give much consideration to whether it really makes sense or not for the U.S. military to be spread all across the world. I’d like to tie some of these assholes to a metal chair and beat one single priority out of them.

      1. Derpetologist

        People matter a lot more than equipment. Syria used to be #4 in the world when it came to number of tanks. However, tanks need fuel, ammo, spare parts, and most importantly, trained crews with the will to fight.

        ***
        In 24 months of brutal combat, Syrian opposition fighters have eliminated a quarter of Pres. Bashar Al Assad’s Russian-made tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, according to estimates.
        That’s no fewer than 1,800 T-55, T-62 and T-72 tanks plus BMP fighting vehicles exploded, burned, disabled or seized by rebels—with potentially thousands of crewmen also being killed, injured or captured.
        The destruction of so many of the government’s heavy vehicles by relatively lightly armed rebels is, for the regime, a painful reminder of the vulnerability of even the most thickly armored tanks in close urban fighting—and especially when the vehicles aren’t protected by nearby infantry.
        ***

        https://medium.com/war-is-boring/how-to-take-out-1-800-tanks-in-two-years-74ecd413cb93

  6. Nephilium

    For the links, happy news from Wisconsin… assuming it actually passes.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I thought the drinking age in Wisconsin was like 8 or 9.

    2. KSuellington

      That makes way too much sense to pass.

    3. Rhywun

      Admirable but I’m guessing it doesn’t have a chance in hell. Speaking of hell, MADD should really be rotting there.

      1. Nephilium

        Just reposting it, but I’m sure everyone here is aware. The founder of MADD (Candy Lightner) left MADD because they were going into a prohibitionist direction. Prime example of a non-profit achieving their goals, and then changing what the goals are.

        1. Rhywun

          Yeah, the prohibitionist stance is what pisses me off. This is one area where we really do need to “be more like Europe”.

          1. We have sex education predicated on the fact that the kids are going to do it anyway, so best teach them how to be safe. Suggest having alcohol education based on the idea that the kids are going to drink anyway, so teach them to do it safely, and people will think you’re nuts.

          2. Rhywun

            I don’t think either of those belong in public schools. When I lived in Germany both of those things were the parents’ responsibility – imagine that!

          3. Pfft, you want me to educate my kids? WTF am I paying taxes for, yeesh!

    4. LJW

      “Mothers Against Drunk Driving, a nonprofit organization with aims to eliminate drunk driving, has come out in opposition to the proposal as well. They cited a National Highway Traffic Safety Administration study which estimates more than 500 additional lives would be lost to drunk driving if the drinking age was lowered.”

      How accurate can a study like that be. Sounds like they’re pulling numbers out of their ass.

    5. straffinrun

      IIRC Wisconsin was one of the last states to raise it to 21 and the Feds withheld highway funds until they raised it. Don’t see Trump doing that.

      1. Correct…I used to cross the IL/WI border to Beloit, WI when I was 19…sigh.

        1. straffinrun

          Only government laws could make Beloit a pleasure destination. Nice water tower, though.

          1. Settlers first show up in southern WI….an Indian comes out of the forest, peers at a chamber pot, drops a pebble in…it goes “Bel-oit!” hence the town name….

        2. Tulip

          I used to go to Canada. Drinking age is 18.

          1. Nephilium

            I seem to remember it being 19 for everything in Canada. Which pissed off some smokers on one trip up North.

          2. Rhywun

            It was 19 in Ontario when I was in school in Buffalo. Road trip!

          3. Nephilium

            When I turned 19, there was a group of similarly aged friends who decided it was a reason for a road trip. The worst part was the crossing back into the US.

            –“Why were you in Canada?”

            –“Vacation, and we can drink there.”

          4. gbob

            Crossing the bridge to take in the Canadian Ballet was the best part of turning 19 when one was growing up in Buffalo.

          5. Rufus the Monocled

            Quebec it’s 18 – and not always enforced.

          6. John Titor

            Quebec’s 18, Ontario and most of the other provinces is 19.

          7. Tulip

            Manitoba was 18 when I was 18, whippersnappers.

          8. John Titor

            Well that makes you the first person to ever voluntarily go to Manitoba.

          9. Manitoba = the Australia of Canada?

          10. Pope Jimbo

            I have gone to Winnipeg in Friendly Manitoba to watch the North Stars play the Jets back in the early ’80s.

            Voluntarily.

            And yes, the reason we went there was the 18 drinking age.

          11. Tulip

            We used to go to Winnipeg for Folklorama. Every ethnic group puts on dinner and a show. Eat jerked chicken and watch a fire eater and limbo dancers. Drink Irish coffee, watch a Ukrainian lady make psysanky (Easter eggs). Winnipeg is fun.

      2. Rhywun

        The drinking age in NY was 18 or 19 when I visited my older brother in college for a few days when I was around 13, I think during T’giving break. He and his friends would have a few beers in their dorm lounge, talk, watch movies, etc. My god the carnage and dead bodies were shocking.

    6. DEG

      “Representative Duchow believes if somebody is able to sign up to join the military and serve our country and be sent to the Middle East, they should also be able to have an alcoholic beverage,” Dorsett said.

      So why aren’t you lowering the age to 18? Or 17 with parental permission?

      1. Rhywun

        Because high school. *rolls eyes*

      2. Nephilium

        Most states (to my knowledge) allow parents to provide alcohol to their children legally. Most bars and restaurants won’t allow it because then they would have to have some way of confirming that someone is a parent/guardian to cover their asses.

        1. kbolino

          At least in my state, the parent-child exception only applies within a private residence, so no bars. There’s also an exception for communion wine, but that’s a tiny amount at a specific occasion.

  7. The elephant asked the camel: “Why do you have your breasts on your back?”
    The camel clearly irritated by the outrage of modesty replies: “What a silly question from someone who has a dick on his face.”

    http://archive.is/T0xPv

    #1 is a repeat and there is no reason to go past her. Perfection has been achieved.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      1, 23 and 40.

    2. Sean

      1,3,7,40

    3. westernsloper

      1 is indeed superb, but I disagree. It was well worth my time to continue scrolling.

    4. 14, 16 , 28 make me wish I was young again…40, because.

    5. DEG

      #1 is a fine example of class Mammaria, but the correct answer is of course orgy.

    6. Chafed

      She is excellent but if you stop there you will miss 3 and 13.

    7. creech

      #26 reminds me of AT&T Lily. Wouldn’t you love to answer the door tonite and see her standing there with a grin and sixpack of your favorite microbrew?

        1. dbleagle

          An Uzbeck. That is interesting.

  8. Gilmore

    And the russians speak french?! Those sneaky bastards.

    1. French Intel intercept?

  9. Mustang

    I do not envy CEOs or top-level managers or anyone with a similar job. I’m barely grasping some of the mid-level shit right now. I don’t know how some people can hold the entire direction of a company on track and not lose their shit, but that is one helluva skill. I’ll take a small team any day and let smarter people than I handle the strategic planning. Yeesh.

    Just a random thought.

    1. Gilmore

      i’ve spent time with senior executives of large corporations. (consulting for years, analyst @ bank, had to Q+A with ceo/cfo’s every earnings season)

      they’re not masterminds pulling every string. the main management skill is identifying your most competent subordinates, giving them what they want, and staying out of their way.

      each CEO tends to have different ‘core styles’ which guide their operating philosophy. once you identify it, everything they do makes sense.

      e.g. some run companies like accountants/analysts (managing their cashflow + cost cutting). some run companies like salesman (looking to close big deals: m+a, divestitures, etc). some think of themselves as strategists (identifying new categories they could be in/different ways of expanding their footprint with their customers)… some are just PR monkeys who try to spin their constant-train-wreck-of-a-company in the best light while desperately restructuring.

      …and a few others (i used to have a cheat sheet of all the ‘management categories’ colleagues and i had identified… forgot some of them)…

      very rarely does any 1 guy do all of these things. or they have a second-in-command who plays a complementary role.

      if you can’t actually spot what the person’s talent is… they’re probably a shitty CEO.

      1. Derpetologist

        Somewhat related:

        Many businesses start as a partnership. There’s a creative, disorganized guy who comes up with the idea and then there’s a serious, diligent guy who know how to manage people.

        There’s a similar thing in science. There are people who are really good with theoretical stuff and then there are people who are really good with practical stuff. Think Tesla vs Edison.

        Faraday suspected light was an electromagnetic wave, but was not a good enough mathematician to prove it. That was left to Maxwell.
        Faraday may not have been the best mathematician, but he did invent the electric motor.

        Joule and Kelvin did all the math for steam engines, but it was hands-on guys like Watt and Newcomen that built them and made them work.

        1. westernsloper

          There’s a creative, disorganized guy who comes up with the idea and then there’s a serious, diligent guy who know how to manage people.

          See, that is what I need to see my dream of a Pong themed taco and noodle bar to fruition. There will be a screen in each table/bar seat with a knob and a selection of each person up for a pong challenge. You play anybody in the bar from your seat. I know it would be a hit.

      2. Spartan Dad

        I’d add one more trait: being able to navigate the company through industry storms. There’s been two specific incidences that I know of in my company’s history where an unexpected and faultless situation had the very real potential for destroying the company with no clear right path forward. In both cases, the different CEOs carried us through largely unscathed.

        1. Mustang

          You all bring up great points. These talents are probably one reason many dislike CEOs and so on. They are difficult skills to quantify or understand. Many people like to imagine they’re good under stress or they think they’re great at understanding others, but the truth is that you never really know how you’ll react to a stressful situation until it happens and placing people into positions that utilize their strengths is much more difficult than just saying “he seems pretty good at X.” You can prepare for stress, but someone who shows consistent leadership in those situations is worth a ton of money and time to recruit.

          That’s not even mentioning the greater impact each decision has on employees as you move up the ranks. All these progs claiming they want to help everyone by tearing down businessmen and women are being enormous hypocrites. You want to help the janitor and line workers? Hire a competent, and probably expensive, individual who can make the best use of all of them and keep the company moving smoothly. That’s how you can help even the lowest-paid employee…stability.

      3. Rufus the Monocled

        “very rarely does any 1 guy do all of these things.”

        Unless they do coke?

    2. Akira

      But remember, CEOs and executives don’t do any real work and they don’t deserve the salaries they get. That’s why we should tax it all away and give it to poor people!

      /leftist

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        And that’s why they like inheritance taxes. Why should it go to ‘stupid’ children who will squander it!

        I tell you, the envy masking as fairness is beyond the pale.

        I had to tell one prog to fuck off and eat shit about thinking this way. It’s none of your business, and not your money you fucken lousy parasite.

  10. westernsloper

    This dead whale bit gave myself and my coworkers a few chuckles in my previous life.

    I have never heard of sharks attacking a sub. The things one learns here.

      1. westernsloper

        Ya I have. That there is funny. “The stench lasted for two months.” Ha

    1. SEA SMITH HAPPY TO EDUCATE…AND RAPE.

  11. Juvenile Bluster

    Philadelphia elects a new DA who has a previous career of suing police officers and agencies for misconduct. As you can guess, the cops are not happy.

    I feel so very bad for them.

      1. BakedPenguin

        But cops in Philly couldn’t be corrupt! The city is a paragon of good civic governance, like New Orleans, Caracas, or Mogadishu.

    1. thrakkorzog

      So what’s the spread on when his house is bombed?

      1. Gustave Lytton

        He should MOVE?

    1. Nephilium

      On top of the Trader Joe’s Vintage I picked up earlier, I decided I needed some stout in the house, as well as some more Three Ho’s from Saucy (no link, since I had to add the beer to BA).

      1. DEG

        That Bells beer looks delicious.

        1. Nephilium

          It’s one of those self limiting ones as well. Once you can no longer say the name, you’re not allowed to have anymore.

        2. Nephilium

          And just cracked one. It’s damned good. Lots of coffee aroma and roasted notes in the flavor. The sweetness that’s usually in most milk stouts isn’t there at all, with the lactose just adding to the mouthfeel. The fruitiness of the Sumatran beans really comes through as well.

          1. DEG

            Damn.

  12. straffinrun

    “he lost control of his car at 160mph and thudded into the tyre barrier.”

    The old Alexander the Great strategy.

    1. *strongly narrows gaze*

  13. Rhywun

    Rangers win their 6th in a row, Islanders leading the Blues 2-0 ten minutes in… Bizarro World.

    1. *sulks about downfall of Blackhawks*

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Toews seems to have hit the wall.

        1. GSL in E

          Or he was always just a very-good-but-not-superstar player that everyone thought was a star when his team was winning Cups.

  14. westernsloper

    failing to comply with the agency’s “seismic requirements,” which translates to earthquake safety standards.

    Is IL on a fault line?

    1. We have three fault lines in IL – New Madrid – way south, very dangerous. Wabash – moderate danger, central. Some bullshit minor one up north, I cannot even remember the name.

      1. westernsloper

        Having been to southern Illinois I find that very interesting. I always associated fault lines with some sort of hills or mtns like in CA on the San Andreas where there is an apparent upheaval.. Then again OK is on a fault and they are flat af too until you get way south.

  15. Spartan Dad

    An update from yesterday for anyone following:

    The guy set an appointment today to have the swastika blacked out or changed depending on the tattoo artist’s decision. I feel good about how this turned out. Cost 100 dollars to keep an excellent farmhand and got this 25 year old prison tat off him, which it turned out he didn’t believe in or want to keep.

    It’s been talked about here before, I think a glib’s sister’s brother in law got one for the same reason (safety in prison). It’s hard to think of a stronger condemnation of the American prison system (though I’m sure there are), then that a person has to get permanently inked with this shit to keep from being an unwilling cum receptacle.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Ditto! Both for taking an interest in this guy (and his future) and seeing beyond his his long ago prison record. I hope he repays your faith in the years to come.

    1. Rhywun

      Very interesting and glad it’s working out. I had not thought of the “safety” angle at all.

    2. Akira

      Prisons are truly fucked up places.

      When I was working at the female prison, I almost thought about going back to school for criminology. It’s a very interesting work environment. Unfortunately, most of them are controlled by government unions, and I don’t care how good the job is – I won’t pay one fucking cent to the AFSCME as long as I live.

      1. F. Stupidity Jr.

        Akira and others: what do you think of Bill James’ idea to build smaller prisons? (TLDR version)

        The full version

        1. Akira

          That sounds like it would help.

          I also think we need to get over the aversion to solitary confinement when it comes to violent sociopaths. I remember this one inmate who was a constant pain in the ass. On one occasion, she blasted a fire extinguisher over a big area where other inmates were watching TV, so she got thrown in segregation. In the segregation unit, she was doing some kind of group activity (since segregation is not complete isolation) and she threw a chair at another inmate. A short while later, she bit an officer on the shoulder. What the hell are you supposed to do with a person like that? If they prove to be a constant danger to other inmates and staff, I don’t see the problem with putting them where they can’t hurt anyone else. I know these extremely long periods of solitary can really fuck people up, but how are you supposed to handle someone who becomes violent every single time they’re around other people? And does it not fuck people up to live in constant fear of violence and rape?

          Naturally, it needs to be reserved for the most extreme cases.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Kill them, and call it.

        2. Viking1865

          I don’t believe in prison. Criminal justice should be a mixture of corporal punishment and restitution.

          1. l0b0t

            So very much this. Reformative incarceration was, IIRC, mainly a product of 19th century religious nutters and seems to have been an abject failure.

  16. The Elite Elite

    Red Letter Media reviews a STEVE SMITH movie.

  17. Not an Economist

    SEA SMITH CANNOT WEAR POPPIES, SO HE PUT THIS LINK UP INSTEAD.

    Hey, poppies are racists.

    The author is famous, not for writing but for helping name a point-by-point rebuttal of an article.

    1. Chipping Pioneer

      I’m Poppy.

    2. Rhywun

      I could refute that assholery point-by-point but I’m too angry reading it.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        You should.

    3. John Titor

      Up here they’re starting to try to infer that the Red Ensign (old Canadian flag) is a racist white nationalist symbol. You know, the one soldiers died for and is flown at every military base.

    4. BakedPenguin

      God, what a cunt.

      Sorry for the language, but it’s deserved. Read that piece of excrement.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Language? It’s ok to say God here.

      2. Chipping Pioneer

        Yeah. That asshole deserves to be stuck with a thousand poppy pins.

        1. dbleagle

          Worse than that. He needs to have the Clockwork Orange eyeball treatment while watching every “I’m Poppy” video on infinite repeat.

          1. Ludovico treatment.

  18. Derpetologist

    today I learned

    ***
    William Playfair (22 September 1759 – 11 February 1823) was a Scottish engineer and political economist, the founder of graphical methods of statistics.[1]

    William Playfair invented several types of diagrams: in 1786 the line, area and bar chart of economic data, and in 1801 the pie chart and circle graph, used to show part-whole relations.
    ***

    ***
    Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee FRSE (15 October 1747 – 5 January 1813) was a Scottish advocate, judge, writer and historian who served as Professor of Universal History, and Greek and Roman Antiquities at the University of Edinburgh.

    In his Lectures, Tytler expressed a critical view of democracy in general and representative democracies such as republics in particular. He believed that “a pure democracy is a chimera”, and that “All government is essentially of the nature of a monarchy”.[7]

    In discussing the Athenian democracy, after noting that a great number of the population were actually enslaved, he went on to say, “Nor were the superior classes in the actual enjoyment of a rational liberty and independence. They were perpetually divided into factions, which servilely ranked themselves under the banners of the contending demagogues; and these maintained their influence over their partisans by the most shameful corruption and bribery, of which the means were supplied alone by the plunder of the public money”.[7]

    Speaking about the measure of freedom enjoyed by the people in a republic or democracy, Tytler wrote, “The people flatter themselves that they have the sovereign power. These are, in fact, words without meaning. It is true they elected governors; but how are these elections brought about? In every instance of election by the mass of a people—through the influence of those governors themselves, and by means the most opposite to a free and disinterested choice, by the basest corruption and bribery. But those governors once selected, where is the boasted freedom of the people? They must submit to their rule and control, with the same abandonment of their natural liberty, the freedom of their will, and the command of their actions, as if they were under the rule of a monarch”.[8]

    Tytler dismisses the more optimistic vision of democracy by commentators such as Montesquieu as “nothing better than an Utopian theory, a splendid chimera, descriptive of a state of society that never did, and never could exist; a republic not of men, but of angels”, for “While man is being instigated by the love of power—a passion visible in an infant, and common to us even with the inferior animals—he will seek personal superiority in preference to every matter of a general concern”.[9]

    “Or at best, he will employ himself in advancing the public good, as the means of individual distinction and elevation: he will promote the interest of the state from the selfish but most useful passion of making himself considerable in that establishment which he labors to aggrandize. Such is the true picture of man as a political agent”.
    ***

  19. Derpetologist

    today I learned

    ***
    Dost Mohammad Khan (Pashto: دوست محمد خان‎, December 23, 1793 – June 9, 1863) was the founder of the Barakzai dynasty and one of the prominent rulers of Afghanistan during the First Anglo-Afghan War.

    Dost Mohammad waged a guerilla war, being defeated in every skirmish he fought, but taunted Macnaughten in a letter with the boast: “I am like a wooden spoon. You may throw me hither and yon, but I shall not be hurt”.

    “We have men and we have rocks in plenty, but we have nothing else”[14]

    — Dost Mohammad Khan to John Lawrence
    ***

  20. Nephilium

    In other alcohol news, pissing off half of your clientele generally isn’t good for business. I have the feeling that Mila will be looking for a new job soon, as Jim Beam finds a new spokesperson.

    1. Rhywun

      Christ. Will people just please stop inserting their fucking politics into everything. Fuck.

    2. BakedPenguin

      At this time, Jim Beam hasn’t responded to our request for a statement, but we can’t imagine they’re too worried about a potential decrease in sales. Reports say the brand fills 500,000 cases of bourbon annually every year — and if a handful of anti-Kunis drinkers won’t buy the stuff, someone else surely will.

      Yup. Until they don’t.

      1. straffinrun

        Yeah, those kinds of barbs slipped into articles make me want to punch the author. Passive aggressive BS.

      2. GSL in E

        That logic sounds airtight to us.
        – The NFL

    3. Akira

      I never liked Jim Beam anyway; I always preferred Jack Daniels. And these days, my preferred brown liquor is either rye or a Scotch.

      1. Nephilium

        Jim Beam isn’t a stand alone company anymore, they sold to Suntory a couple years back, and Suntory owns quite a few brands (including one of my favorite Scotches: Laphroaig).

      2. Chipping Pioneer

        I prefer Laura Prepon, minus the scientology weirdness.

    4. AlmightyJB

      She was hired to be hot, which she is. I don’t care about her politics. That was nothing more than typical proggie social signaling which she indulged in as herself, not as the Jim Beam spokeswoman. It’s not like she pissed on the American flag. If that was her only gig then maybe I could see the point of the pitchforks. Compared to the prog derp that gets posted hear everyday, thats like a 1 on a scale of 10. Not to mention Pence is a total douchebag.

      1. creech

        Wasn’t she on the 70’s Show? It was the red head who was “hot.”

        1. AlmightyJB

          The red head was the hot one on that show along with Eric’s sister. Have you seen Mila lately though?

          https://img.youtube.com/vi/TEDYVyLaXMQ/0.jpg

      2. mr simple

        Seriously. Who gives a shit what she does on her own? Why do we always have to go to war with a complete scorched earth policy over everyone’s differing beliefs?

  21. Derpetologist

    UK: Muslim Labour candidate says teachers “brainwashing us and our children into thinking the bad guy was Hitler”
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/11/uk-labour-council-candidate-says-teachers-brainwashing-us-and-our-children-into-thinking-the-bad-guy-was-hitler

    ***
    The Labour Party is embroiled in another anti-Semitism row after a mother who questioned Hitler’s reputation was shortlisted to fight a council seat.

    Nasreen Khan, a former member of George Galloway’s Respect Party, made offensive remarks about Jews on Facebook five years ago.

    She said Jews ‘have reaped the rewards of playing victims’ and that there were ‘worse people than Hitler in this world’.

    Miss Khan, a Muslim who has since joined the Labour Party, said they were ‘inappropriate and unacceptable’.

    But despite the remarks, she is on a two-person shortlist for the Labour nomination in a safe seat in Bradford at next year’s local elections.

    A final decision is expected to be made on Friday.

    In 2012, writing under a video titled ‘The Palestine you need to know’, she said: ‘It’s such a shame that the history teachers in our school never taught us this but they are the first to start brainwashing us and our children into thinking the bad guy was Hitler.

    ‘What have the Jews done good in this world?’ When questioned about the comment, she had added: ‘No, I’m not a Nazi, I’m an ordinary British Muslim that had an opinion and put it across. We have worse people than Hitler in this world now.’ When she faced further online criticism she said: ‘Stop beating a dead horse. The Jews have reaped the rewards of playing victims. Enough is enough!’
    ***

    1. straffinrun

      I’m not saying the Holocaust didn’t happen. I’m saying the Jooz intentionally instigated it so they could steal Palestinian land after the war.

      1. Gilmore

        the Jooz intentionally instigated it so they could steal Palestinian land after the war.

        “After?”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun#Prior_to_World_War_II

        i recall some history vaguely, but i’m pretty sure the zionist movement started even way earlier (19th century). and it wasn’t actually very popular with many of the mainline jewish denominations/communities in places like Russia/Hungary/Czech etc. in fact i think most thought the zionists were nuts. “Moshe! why would you want to live in the desert? ok there’s a rock and a temple and a wall, but who lives for ancient history? grow up and run your business and stop causing trouble” Even after the war, it hardly had universal political support amongst the diaspora.

        1. straffinrun

          How dare you poke holes in my ridiculous theories. Your debunking sounds suspiciously like a Sam Kinison routine BTW.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Former member of Galloway’s party. What a surprise.

      Labor is so putrid. If forced to choose (and not allowed to choose suicide) I’d take Hillary to lead the country over Corbyn.

    3. BakedPenguin

      ‘What have the Jews done good in this world?’

      Hmm. Let’s see:

      Remote controls for televisions;
      Heterotransistors, which allow to “engineer the electronic energy bands in many solid-state device applications, including semiconductor lasers, solar cells and transistors”;
      The cryoextraction method of cataract surgery;
      The multiple sclerosis drug Copaxone;
      The watt-hour meter

      That’s just “A” from this page (tw: wikipedia). What have Muslims given us? Mebbe Ms. Khan should think before she defames (((others))).

      1. Nephilium

        Damn it. I was trying to find the Pratchett quote about how the Klatchians (stand in for Arabs) invented everything that started with Al-. Such as al-gebra and al-cohol, but I couldn’t find it.

      2. westernsloper

        What have Muslims given us?

        Mia Khalifa?

        1. DEG

          Her family is Catholic and she was raised Catholic.

          1. westernsloper

            That explains a lot. God bless her.

            *Does the holding a dead chicken across the chest to forehead thing*

      3. DEG

        You forgot Kat Denning’s rack in your list of Jewish achievements.

        1. AlmightyJB

          It is a most wonderful rack

        2. AlmightyJB

          Let’s also not forget Jewsday Tuesday.

          1. DEG

            Right! Oversight on my part.

          2. BakedPenguin

            Dudes, I stopped at “A”.

          3. DEG

            “Awesome rack” starts with “A”.

        3. BakedPenguin

          Neph: algebra was a huge accomplishment. Fair point. It was also done a thousand years ago. Don’t make me get all Janet Jackson.
          ws: Yes, but they would have her killed, instead of spanked. Totally inappropriate.
          DEG: I have a Jewish ex-girlfriend with a massive rack. Things went sideways quick, and I dislike her a lot to this day. I’m sure that has nothing to do with this, though.

          1. DEG

            I have Jewish ex-s as well. Only one do I dislike. None had massive racks.

          2. Nephilium

            Best Jewish girlfriend story I have was actually a friend’s girlfriend. She was a member of a reformed temple, and was dating a Catholic Italian. He went to her temple a couple of times, and she decided she wanted to learn about Catholicism. He took her to the Ash Wednesday mass. She came up to me the next day and after verifying that I was raised Catholic asked for explanations of what all of the various things meant. At the end of all of that she exclaimed, “Holy shit! I though us Jewish people had the guilt thing down, but we’ve got nothing on you Catholics.”

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      Respect Party?

      Ha! It is to laugh.

    1. AlmightyJB

      I approve of this message

  22. Ken Shultz

    Story told in two links.

    Link 1:

    There was a huge antisemitic and anti-Muslim demonstration in Poland, with some 60,000 people attending.

    WARSAW—Tens of thousands of Poles marched across downtown Warsaw on Saturday, in an independence-day procession organized by a nationalist youth movement that seeks an ethnically pure Poland with fewer Jews or Muslims.

    The largely young crowd shot off roman candles and chanted “fatherland,” carrying banners that read “White Europe,” “Europe Will Be White,” and “Clean Blood.” Some of the marchers flew in from neighboring countries—Slovakia, Spain and Hungary—waving flags and symbols those countries used during their wartime collaboration with Nazi Germany.

    . . . .

    The Radical Camp presents itself as the heir to a 1930s fascist movement of the same name, which fought to rid Poland of Jews in the years just before the Holocaust. A second group, All Polish Youth, also named after an anti-Jewish interwar movement, co-organized it.

    . . . .

    The group has regularly held events to mark a 1936 pogrom against Jews. Its symbols were displayed on a banner that appeared over a Warsaw bridge, reading: “Pray for Islamic Holocaust.”

    . . . .

    Similar movements have taken hold—even captured seats in parliament—in Hungary, Slovakia and Czech Republic. Some of these countries are among Europe’s most prospering. Poland is the only country in the EU that didn’t experience a single quarter of economic contraction after the financial crisis.

    . . . .

    Government-controlled media broadcasts near-nightly reports on crimes committed by Muslims in Europe. On Saturday, Polish state television called the procession a “great march of patriots”.

    —-Wall Street Journal, November 11, 2017

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/polish-nationalist-youth-march-draws-thousands-in-capital-1510429006

    “Polish Nationalist Youth March Draws Thousands in Capital”
    Crowd of mostly young people carries banners that read ‘Europe Will Be White’ and ‘Clean Blood’

    Thoroughly horrifying if you ask me.

    These people are detestable. They should be denounced by everyone on the left, center, and the right–by capitalists, socialists, and anyone and everyone with a moral compass. Instead, it looks they both support and are supported by the Polish government.

    You ever heard the story about, “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”?

    Well that’s what a real wolf looks like. That wolf probably can’t be criticized too harshly.

    1. Akira

      Wait a minute – I thought Europe was a progressive, enlightened, tolerant place and only America had an issue with boorish racist dicklickers marching in public with stupid slogans?

      1. John Titor

        Everyone knows that Eastern Europe doesn’t count and that Slavs are degenerates.

      2. Derpetologist

        Yes, but those boorish, racist dicklickers are white men. The boorish, racist dicklickers in Yerp are groovy brown people who can do no wrong.

        1. dbleagle

          Derp. I left you a reply on Swiss’s article.

    2. straffinrun

      3 and only 3 choices: Kill all Muslims, Kill all Jews, Kill both. One is gonna win, so make your choice. You guys and your “individualism” are gonna let the bad guys win.

      1. Ken Shultz

        See my comment below.

        The angle I was taking is that average Americans who want the government to enforce immigration law are not neo-Nazis, neo-Confederates, neo . . . anything.

        And painting them as such just makes average Americans more blase about real xenophobia, racism, etc.

        Does no one value credibility anymore?

        1. straffinrun

          It’s gotta be the echo chamber effect that the internet has created. I’m surrounded by people that have some beliefs that are completely antithetical to my own. And even though I’m forced to being exposed to their views, I can come here and get my support fix. I can’t imagine how warped my views would be if I were a prog in a prog city with prog friends.

          “The frog in the well knows nothing of the ocean.”
          -Japanese proverb

    3. Rhywun

      I am currently in the middle of watching Generation War (Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter) – a recent German TV (melo)drama about the activities of five friends during WWII – 3rd and final part is coming up later tonight…. And on Wikipedia I read that while it got a lot of praise, it also pissed off lots of people everywhere – including Poles who chafe at the idea that there was any anti-Jewish sentiment in Poland.

      Yeah, OK.

      1. They’ve made it illegal to say “Polish death camps”.

        1. Rhywun

          *sigh*

          I just can’t even.

      2. Ken Shultz

        Not only was there antisemitism in Poland before the war, there were pogroms in Poland after the war.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom

        This latest one is obviously about immigrants from Syria, as much as anything. It said circa 2009, they couldn’t attract more than a few hundred. Today they got 60,000?

        There was antisemitism in the United States, too. I suspect the Polish are especially perplexed by Germany’s (Merkel’s) commitment to helping refugees, and they see it as largely driven by guilt. Poland having been an occupied country–and victimized by first the Nazis and then the communists–I’m sure, don’t feel that sense of guilt so acutely like the Germans do.

        Still, we’re all to blame for what we do, and they did a lot. Whether that means they have to take in a bunch of refugees from Syria is another question entirely. But even honest, justice minded people who don’t want to take in refugees because they’re a security threat should be denouncing neo-Nazis.

      3. dbleagle

        It was a good series. But yeah there was Polish anti-(((them))) and still is.

  23. Derpetologist

    Our Taxpayer Funded Saddam
    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2017/11/our-taxpayer-funded-saddam.html

    ***
    There isn’t much to do in Qalqilya except visit its zoo. The Qalqilya Zoo is the worst zoo in the world and embodies everything wrong with “Palestine”. Israelis helped set up the zoo as a gesture of peace. It was supposed to be a “jewel in the crown of Palestinian national institutions.”

    And it just might be.

    Recently, a bear ate a 9-year-old boy’s arm at the zoo. The zebras and the giraffes allegedly died as a result of Muslim attacks on Israelis near the zoo. The self-taught taxidermist who runs the zoo has an exhibition of dead animals he has stuffed and mounted, and whose deaths he blames on Israel.

    Like everything else about “Palestine”, Israeli goodwill ended in death and anti-Israel propaganda.

    But Qalqilyans or Qalqilyites now have something else to do besides get their arms ripped off by a bear or visit one of the city’s 26 mosques. They can stop by the Saddam Hussein Memorial.
    ***

  24. Ken Shultz

    Link 2:

    This is BY FAR the worst political ad I’ve ever seen in my life.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHZvVsGGY-U

    It shows an old white man running down black, Latino, and Muslim children in his pickup truck–with an Ed Gillespie for Governor bumper sticker on it.

    It’s amazing that when there are real, honest to God, neo-Nazis in this world, that the progressives would cry WOLF! like that, when there’s no such thing.

    In fact, if we ever see a genuinely xenophobic, antisemitic, neo-Nazi movement become popular in this country, it’ll only happen after average Americans become so blase about hearing the charge of racist, fascist, and neo-Nazi thrown around, that they don’t even pay attention to it anymore.

    That may have been what happened in Poland–or spilled across the border from Germany. Cry wolf about the communists hiding under the beds long enough, and people start making fun of you for it. Same thing goes for Nazis, I’m sure.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Yeah, I saw that a while back and I agree, that’s as low as I’ve seen as far as TV ads go.

      1. Ken Shultz

        Could it have been much worse?

        That’s about as bad as it can get!

        1. AlmightyJB

          As dispicable as it is, I’m sure they could exceed our expectations. It’s like derp. As impossible as it is to believe that they can derp harder they always find a way. No doubt thats the worst I’ve seen though.

        2. Grumbletarian

          By 2020 you’ll have a CGI-ed version of the GOP presidential candidate stomping through an inner city Planned Parenthood packing a fully automatic silenced grenade launcher (with the requisite chainsaw bayonet) gunning down brown-skinned women just trying to ‘exercise their right to women’s health’.

      2. westernsloper

        To their credit, they pulled it the day the dude ran over all those people in NYC. That kind of ruined their message.

    2. Rope Snake

      The driver didn’t explicitly threaten the kids or anything. So they’re freaking out just because of his “Don’t Tread on Me” sticker and Confederate States flag. Seems like it’s unintentionally satirizing and criticizing the paranoia and fear swept up by the left, which leads to people experiencing this kind of unwarranted terror.

      They should’ve just gone all the way with the ad (and the fear-mongering in general). Made it violent and obscene. Catalyze them psychotic breaks.

      1. Ken Shultz

        He had an “Ed Gillespie for Governor” bumper sticker, and what could be scarier than that?

        I mean the guy is a Republican.

    3. Not an Economist

      And the thing is, it was an in-kind contribution to the winning gubernatorial campaign. So expect more of this in the future since, apparently it works.

      1. Rhywun

        You can thank a <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/05/eva-longoria-launches-new-project-to-boost-latino-candidates-and-voting-power.html&quot; title="Desperate Housewife” target=”_blank” >Desperate Housewife for it.

        1. Rhywun

          Shit. My first HTML fail.

          1. AlmightyJB

            Damn I’ve had a ton of them

          2. Rhywun

            I’m using monocle – it should be foolproof, barring tipsiness or greasy hamburger fingers.

          3. AlmightyJB

            I do almost all of my posting from my phone which causes me lots of problems.

  25. AlmightyJB

    He can’t say no one tried to help him.

    https://youtu.be/apc85Cp4lQQ

  26. AlmightyJB

    Another reason to be thankful that we have a 1st Amendment in this country. For now anyways.

    https://youtu.be/sFrrbU37-34

    1. AlmightyJB

      Here was the Jordon Peterson video she was referencing. This was before the law was past. Examples of the purposeful lying being done by the progs to get the law passed. Kind of long.

      https://youtu.be/LiHb4KJLFyE

    2. thrakkorzog

      Yeah, this is why I don’t worry about right wing derp. If I try to argue that the Earth is more than 6,000 years old, I’m not going to have to deal with HR or the courts. If I think that a man in a dress is still a man, then I’m worse than Hitler.

      1. AlmightyJB

        It will be some time before they’ll be able to get away with that shit here.

        1. straffinrun

          About 20 years? “The income tax will only effect the super rich and only be 2 or 3%!”. Dipshit in 1912.

          1. AlmightyJB

            I think it will be longer than that. Hope so anyways.

    3. Not an Economist

      My personal preferred pronoun is Lord God and Emperor of the Universe.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Mine is “Do with me what you will”.

      2. Nephilium

        I stick with Grand High Galactic Warlord of Cubicle 13-B.

  27. Derpetologist

    A great Sargon video temporarily blocked by youtube. See if you can figure out why.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv-4Pxe8Dz8

    1. DEG

      It’s those Nazi flags in the video, right?

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      Spelling “yarmulke” incorrectly should be a blockable offense.

  28. Derpetologist

    I wonder how many Marxist college kids know about these quotes:

    ***
    What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.
    ***

    Marx also like to use the word nigger. Shh, no one tell the SJWs!

    ***
    When on holiday in Ramsgate in 1879, Marx reported to Engels that the resort contained “many Jews and fleas.” In an earlier letter to Engels, Marx referred to Ferdinand Lassalle as a “Jewish nigger.” Professor Fine has not discussed this but I do not see such comments as “witty” or “ironic,” they are simply racist.

    If they are not ignoring such expressions, apologists for Marx will even try and whitewash them. In a 1942 Soviet English language publication of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels: Selected Correspondence, 1846-1895, such terminology could not be ignored and the following note (cited by Diane Paul, “‘In the Interests of Civilization’: Marxist Views of Race and Culture in the Nineteenth Century,” Journal of the History of Ideas, 1981) was included:

    With reference to the use of the word “nigger” which occurs in this book: Marx used the word while living in England, in the last century. The word does not have the same connotation as it has now in the U.S. and should be read as “Negro” whenever it occurs in the text.
    The excuse seems to be along the lines of: “Yes, a racist term is used, but pretend that a non racist term was used instead.” It is a simply ludicrous excuse and it exposes the depths to which apologists of Marx will sink.
    ***

    one more lovely Marx quote

    ***
    Thus we find every tyrant backed by a Jew, as is every pope by a Jesuit. In truth, the cravings of oppressors would be hopeless, and the practicability of war out of the question, if there were not an army of Jesuits to smother thought and a handful of Jews to ransack pockets.
    ***

    https://www.philosophersmag.com/opinion/30-karl-marx-s-radical-antisemitism

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Most of the college SJWs would agree with the anti-Semitic parts.

    2. AlmightyJB

      Something I found interesting. I was watching this Net Geo documentary on North Korea last night. Pretty horrific. The propaganda against America is as you can imagine quite over the top. There was one poster in particular the showed an American soldier and a North Korean soldier. The American soldiers face was the unmistakable caricature of a Jew complete with the hooked nose. I was quite taken back from that. A lot of their propaganda seems copied from the Soviets so I wonder if that was as well. Their work camps are truly death camps as well. The country is just a death cult. I couldn’t imagine living in that kind of fear. It’s not just what they’ll do to you, it’s what they’ll do to your family if you question anything.

      1. Derpetologist

        I suspect the 2nd half of the 20th century would have been more peaceful if we had nuked North Korea and China like MacArthur suggested.

        wiki sez

        ***
        On 8 July, on the advice on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Truman appointed MacArthur as commander of the United Nations Command in South Korea (CINCUNC).[25] He remained CINCFE and SCAP.[26] MacArthur was forced to commit his forces in Japan to what he later described as a “desperate rearguard action.”[27] In July Truman sent the Chief of Staff of the Army, General J. Lawton Collins, and the Chief of Staff of the Air Force, General Hoyt S. Vandenberg, to report on the situation. They met with MacArthur and his chief of staff, Major General Edward Almond, in Tokyo on 13 July. MacArthur impressed on them the danger of underestimating the North Koreans, whom he characterized as “well-equipped, well-led, and battle-trained, and which have at times out-numbered our troops by as much as twenty to one.”[28] He proposed to first halt the North Korean advance and then counterattack, enveloping the North Koreans with an amphibious operation, but the timing was dependent on the arrival of reinforcements from the United States.[29]

        Bradley raised the possibility of using nuclear weapons in Korea at a Joint Chiefs of Staff meeting on 9 July 1950 at Eisenhower’s instigation, but there was no support for the idea. The Army staff sent a cable to Collins in Tokyo suggesting that he seek out MacArthur’s opinion.[30] In a teleconference on 13 July, Major General Charles L. Bolte proposed sending nuclear weapons.[31] MacArthur had already turned down Air Force proposals to fire bomb North Korean cities,[32] and suggested that atomic bombs could be used to isolate North Korea by taking out bridges and tunnels. The Army staff considered this impractical.[30][33] However, on 28 July, the Joint Chiefs decided to send ten nuclear-capable B-29 bombers of the 9th Bombardment Wing to Guam as a deterrent to Chinese action against Taiwan. Truman publicly denied that he was considering the use of nuclear weapons in Korea, but authorised the transfer to Guam of atomic bombs without their fissile cores.[34] The deployment did not go well; one of the bombers crashed on takeoff from Fairfield-Suisun Air Force Base in California on 5 August, killing the mission commander, Brigadier General Robert F. Travis, and 18 others.[35] The remaining nine bombers remained in Guam until 13 September, when they returned to the United States. The bomb assemblies stayed behind.

        At a press conference on 30 November 1950, Truman was asked about the use of nuclear weapons:

        Q. Mr. President, I wonder if we could retrace that reference to the atom bomb? Did we understand you clearly that the use of the atomic bomb is under active consideration?
        Truman: Always has been. It is one of our weapons.
        Q. Does that mean, Mr. President, use against military objectives, or civilian—
        Truman: It’s a matter that the military people will have to decide. I’m not a military authority that passes on those things.
        Q. Mr. President, perhaps it would be better if we are allowed to quote your remarks on that directly?
        Truman: I don’t think—I don’t think that is necessary.
        Q. Mr. President, you said this depends on United Nations action. Does that mean that we wouldn’t use the atomic bomb except on a United Nations authorization?
        Truman: No, it doesn’t mean that at all. The action against Communist China depends on the action of the United Nations. The military commander in the field will have charge of the use of the weapons, as he always has.[88]

        The implication was that the authority to use atomic weapons now rested in the hands of MacArthur.[89][90] Truman’s White House issued a clarification, noting that “only the President can authorize the use of the atom bomb, and no such authorization has been given,” yet the comment still caused a domestic and international stir.[88] Truman had touched upon one of the most sensitive issues in civil-military relations in the post-World War II period: civilian control of nuclear weapons, which was enshrined in the Atomic Energy Act of 1946.[91]

        There has been debate whether MacArthur advocated the employment of nuclear weapons, including over whether his submission to the Joint Chiefs of Staff was tantamount to a recommendation.[105][106] In his testimony before the Senate Inquiry, he stated that he had not recommended their use.[107] In 1960, MacArthur challenged a statement by Truman that he had wanted to use nuclear weapons, saying that “atomic bombing in the Korean War was never discussed either by my headquarters or in any communication to or from Washington”; Truman, admitting that he did not have documentation of any such claim, said that he was merely providing his personal opinion.[108][109] In interview with Jim G. Lucas and Bob Considine on 25 January 1954, posthumously published in 1964, MacArthur said,

        Of all the campaigns of my life, 20 major ones to be exact, [Korea was] the one I felt most sure of was the one I was deprived of waging. I could have won the war in Korea in a maximum of 10 days…. I would have dropped between 30 and 50 atomic bombs on his air bases and other depots strung across the neck of Manchuria…. It was my plan as our amphibious forces moved south to spread behind us—from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea—a belt of radioactive cobalt. It could have been spread from wagons, carts, trucks and planes…. For at least 60 years there could have been no land invasion of Korea from the north. The enemy could not have marched across that radiated belt.”[110]

        In 1985 Richard Nixon recalled discussing the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with MacArthur:

        MacArthur once spoke to me very eloquently about it, pacing the floor of his apartment in the Waldorf. He thought it a tragedy the bomb was ever exploded. MacArthur believed that the same restrictions ought to apply to atomic weapons as to conventional weapons, that the military objective should always be limited damage to noncombatants… MacArthur, you see, was a soldier. He believed in using force only against military targets, and that is why the nuclear thing turned him off, which I think speaks well of him.[111]
        ***

        1. AlmightyJB

          Based on what I saw, we would have been doing the North Koreans a favor by putting them out of their misery.

          1. kbolino

            At the time, there was no real distinction between NK and SK, it was just one place that had been under the yoke of Japanese colonial occupation for the better part of 35 years. No one could have predicated what has happened since then, any more than people could have expected the USSR would collapse or China would open up trade and business with the world. If anything, the tragedy of North Korea was the least predictable of all outcomes.

        1. Derpetologist

          I found a Nork rom-com once. It reminded me of something Kundera wrote about Soviet films. The greatest conflict that could occur was a misunderstanding. She thought he didn’t love her; he thought she didn’t love him.

          1. AlmightyJB

            A mother singing to her child. About 20 seconds in.

            https://youtu.be/QFxvvd-l6-w

          2. AlmightyJB

            The reason they were allowed in NK was to accompany this doctor from Nepal who was performing 1000 cataract surgeries in 10 days. At about 3:45 in this video they start un bandaging people’s eyes. Note the first thing they all do upon realizing they can now see.

            https://youtu.be/p7RtFZCpyv0

      2. Rhywun

        A commie shithole that I have visited – East Germany – seems like Disneyland in comparison. I just think how – unpleasant – the inevitable endgame is going to be there. Ugh.

    3. thrakkorzog

      I’ve seen plenty of black college students wearing Che T-shirts. Showing they obviously haven’t bothered to actually read any of Che’s writings, especially his thoughts on Black people. (I’m not calling them African-Americans, because he was writing about black people in Africa, and I reject calling them African-Africans on the grounds of bloody stupidity.)

    4. Rope Snake

      They don’t care about Marx, silly. He didn’t even care about intersectionalism. They want Nordic-style socialism, not the state-capitalistic implementation of “communism” that you always conflate with Real Socialism. Get woke.

      1. kbolino

        It is a bit hilarious that countries with explicitly market economies are the model of socialism while actual attempts at total state ownership of the means of production get sidelined.

  29. straffinrun

    That guy t red pills the red pill black community. I don’t see how you could deny that Candice Owens is used as a token black by many on the right. T nails it with this video. I believe he’s still studying at Mises, but not sure.

    1. BakedPenguin

      Yeah, he’s pretty much correct. Got a couple quibbles, but he’s pretty much right.

    2. F. Stupidity Jr.

      I thought he kind of missed the point. The issue about RPB is her credibility.

      He brought up Rothbard; well, Rothbard had credibility because, AFAIK, he stayed on his message consistently. It’s known among right-side YouTube audiences that Owens’ red pill experience was rather recent, and the way she reacted to her critics made people wonder if she wasn’t just some poser regurgitating all the usual talking points. How many people questioning her over this are rejecting the ideas? I suspect very few, so what is his point exactly? That she doesn’t deserve to lose subs over this just because the ideas are the only consideration? Well, if one can get her ideas anywhere, she’s only getting views because she’s presenting them. So in that sense, credibility is really the only issue at hand.

      I’ve only seen her on two videos: part of her sit-down with Rubin, and again with Rubin “debating” Blaire White. (It was just short of slaps and hair-pulling) So I really can’t speak to her content. I think it was fair of other creators to ask questions about Social Autopsy and her bizarre responses to those criticisms. I also think it’s fair to look at her a little more closely going forward. But I think it’s premature to say definitively that she’s a phony doing the gay-for-pay thing, and people writing her off over a project she was involved in prior to her red pill moment is an overreaction.

      1. BakedPenguin

        I thought it was more about “if a liar tells the truth, does it make it any less true?” Reality is what it is, regardless of who sees it.

      2. straffinrun

        As BP points out, T seemed to be making dual arguments: Doesn’t matter if her argument is sound and: Why are people supporting her given she offers nothing novel? What’s wild is I may be drawn to T on some level for the same reason some white people are drawn to Candice now. TBS, what she did with that site was disgusting.

  30. ‘Times are changing,’ Russell told Spectrum News, noting that it is church leadership that has advocated for the ability to bear arms during services, not necessarily the congregation.

    ‘People say ‘well, pastor, you’re talking about killing some,’ and I say ‘well, if I don’t protect my people, I’m being complicit,’ Russell said, adding that, ‘A shooting here, that’s not going to happen.’

    1. Raven Nation

      There was a lady in her 60s who used to attend my wife’s church and she always carried a handgun in her purse (much to the consternation of some other church members). When asked why, she mentioned the little kids in the Sunday School saying, “ain’t no one gonna hurt our babies if I can help it.”

  31. hayeksplosives

    I am glad that Donald Trump is president, mostly because he prevented Herself from getting the job (and I don’t think any other candidate could have), but also because of the pure entertainment value.

    From his twitter feed @realdonaldtrump: ‘Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me “old,” when I would NEVER call him “short and fat?”

    Donald J Trump: Troll level–Expert.

    1. The Elite Elite

      Trump’s twitter is epic gold.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/11/07/national-day-victims-communism

      This alone is worth a year or two of Trump in the White House.

      1. AlmightyJB

        That’s great

    3. straffinrun

      How undiplomatic! Doesn’t Trump know how to politely communicate with Tyrants?

    4. AlmightyJB

      I’d rather have a President that the media, acedemia, and pop culture treat hypercritically than one whom they are propaganda machines for even if he acts like a petty child everytime he’s slighted. I really can’t say much good about the guy other than he’s not Hillary.

      1. hayeksplosives

        Wonder who she would have put on the Supreme Court?

    5. CPRM

      At least if we all die in fire it’ll be entertaining. Well, I won’t, I don’t live near high value targets. And if Wisconsin becomes a Fallout style dystopia, I’m sure our beer stocks will last well into the future.

    6. thrakkorzog

      Reminds me a bit of Swift.

      The king of Lilliput was the tallest, most athletic, and most eloquent people among the Lilliputians.

      Swift got away with it, mostly because nobody wanted to to be the cop pointing out that that the king of England at the time was a short fat German who barely spoke English. And Swift had pointed out those inconsistencies.

    7. I think you are grading on a curve, that’s a weak insult and hack level snark, just because you don’t expect that from a POTUS doesn’t raise it to the level of a world class smack down.

    8. Heroic Mulatto

      Apophasis is a classic rhetorical device.

    1. straffinrun

      His good looking brother was able to pull chicks at a brothel?