Saturday Morning MIA Links

After the last couple of weeks at work, sometimes I wonder about the wisdom of my career choices. But I never wonder about YOU, our loyal and highly perverted crew. So that’s what drives me to get up before the crack of dawn on weekends and compile stories that I hope will stimulate, titillate, asseverate, and infuriate, accompanied by Borscht Belt-style one-liner.

And we have a decent crop to work with today.

Every day, I read the latest story about how THIS TIME, this is the end of the Trump administration. Yeah, yeah, we said the same thing yesterday, but THIS TIME is the real one where he has to vacate the White House and somehow turn it over to Clinton or something. Well, THIS TIME is the thing that will do it– when towering and respected intellects of this order speak, the revolution is certainly here.

 

If you needed proof of the antisemitism that permeates the White House, look no further. I’m sure they’re already building the ovens.

 

I can’t imagine why people think that the mainstream news media is filled with partisan incompetence.

 

This is so very much something I’d do. And I promise you, it would be the best meal they ever served there.

“I give all the credit to my old friend vodka,” Bowen said.

 

I would also likely do this if somehow I were ever actually allowed to be on a jury.

Berman noted that the juror said during the jury selection process prior to the start of opening statements this week that in his spare time he likes to sleep.

 

OK, that was the sugar, now the medicine: Old Guy Music! I make no secret about my deep admiration for Peter Green, the (((guy))) who was the core of Fleetwood Mac when they were still good. And I love Leo Kottke. Kottke’s collaborations with Mike Gordon from Phish are the reasons that bongs were invented. Now let’s put it all together!

Comments

372 responses to “Saturday Morning MIA Links”

  1. ChipsnSalsa

    Brain dead juror member sounds like a prosecutors dream.

    1. Count Potato

      Good band name?

    2. straffinrun

      How many guns have you found in your life?

      1. Not enough.

        1. straffinrun

          How many guns have you tossed in the ocean?

          1. That’s a waste of a good gun.

          2. straffinrun

            There. I would’ve gotten a conviction.

          3. ZARDOZ

            ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU, HIS CHOSEN ONE. TRULY YOU UNDERSTAND THE GIFT OF THE GUN. ZARDOZ IS PLEASED.

      2. ArchieBunker

        Found an ak-47 in a creek bed one time. It was more rust than gun at that point. Figure it was stolen and dumped when the heat was on

  2. The Late P Brooks

    The NYT has been serving up tales of woe for months about how Tillerson is destroying the State Department. I hope his continued presence causes the editorial staff to commit suicide en masse.

    1. I hope he does destroy it.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Yeah, talk about a swamp. I wouldn’t trust anyone over there with any information either.

  3. I don’t get the Oliver Darcy thing, did a tweet get deleted that would have made it clearer?

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Why am I not surprised that this went down the memory hole? Basically, they ran a story about how candidate Trump’s staff set up meetings with Russia. This of course is PROOF OF COLLUSION IN ELECTION MEDDLING. Unfortunately for Ollie, it turns out that the meetings were set up after Trump had won the election, which is SOP.

      1. Tundra

        Specifically to attempt to repair relations.

        The horror!

        1. MikeS

          +1 Reset Button

      2. Hyperion

        Yeah, it’s so sad for them that this obviously illegal act of a president instructing someone to do something to improve relationships with another country, occurred AFTER the election.

        1. Viking1865

          If it’s now illegal for incoming admin staffers to begin communicating with foreign diplomats and government officials? Really? If that’s true, we’re gonna need a lot of new prisons to fill up with transition team people from every fucking change of admin over the last four decades.

          Except of course, that’s not what they want. This is more of the Deep State horseshit where Trump isn’t actually a real President, he’s this weird accident, and if they can just block him enough at some point the Real Adult Statesmen will be back in charge and Business As Usual can return. Things that The Ruling Party have done as a matter of course for decades are now High Crimes to be Investigated Thoroughly.

          If they do impeach the man, I could absolutely see that being kickoff. It would be an explicit statement by the ruling class that the President serves at the pleasure of the bureaucrats, the media, and the politicians, that the American people as a whole are just a rubber stamp that’s supposed to let the Right Sorts of People actually govern the country. It would be a usurpation of the lawful authority of the citizens of the republic.

          1. Hyperion

            They aren’t doing a very good job of blocking him to this point. He’s been stacking the courts with young constitutionalist judges at a furious pace, just passed the biggest tax but bill in a couple of decades, and probably struck a fatal blow to the ACA by eliminating the individual mandate. But this Mueller circus needs to end, and every American needs to get a check in the mail to pay them back for this waste of tax payer money.

      3. Pope Jimbo

        Well, did president elect Trump go to the trouble of specifically creating an offical Office of the President Elect?

        No? Well then he was just a regular citizen and you know how they can be fucked with whenever their betters deem it necessary.

      4. Not an Economist

        If I remember right, what Flynn was trying to do was to keep a UN Security Council vote on a resolution condemning Israel from happening. That was because instead of vetoing the resolution like the US had always done before, the Obama administration was going to abstain and allow the resolution to pass.

        1. Hyperion

          Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI months ago. There’s nothing new here at all anyway.

    2. Count Potato

      “FAKE NEWS: ABC News Makes HUGE Mistake In Report On Flynn Plea Deal
      “ABC News spokesperson tells me that ‘World News’ will clarify that this should be President-Elect Trump, not candidate Trump.”

      ABC News reported on Friday that former national security advisor Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to FBI investigators in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian officials.

      ABC News also claimed that Flynn promised “full cooperation to the Mueller team” and that he is prepared to testify that then-candidate Donald Trump “directed him to make contact with the Russians.”

      There is just one significant problem with ABC News’ report: CNN reported late on Friday that an “ABC News spokesperson” said that “‘World News’ will clarify that this should be president-elect Trump, not candidate Trump.”

      http://www.dailywire.com/news/24222/fake-news-abc-news-makes-huge-mistake-report-flynn-ryan-saavedra

      1. Yeah I get it now. I was confused cause it first seemed OMWC was mad at the CNN dude who was busting ABC’s BS.

  4. Hyperion

    Anyone have some extra depends to send Paul Krugman? We’d better start taking donations, he needs a truckload.

      1. Hyperion

        Millennials move away if you can. LOL!

        1. You say that as if it were a bad thing.

          1. Hyperion

            Obviously right now millennials all over the nation are trying to move their mum’s basement.

  5. If you lived in a real time zone, you wouldn’t have to get up before the crack of dawn to post the links.

  6. ArchieBunker

    We need some kind of directory on here that catalogues mainstream news organizations with BS stories they’ve come up with so on Christmas when my family acts like I’m a nutjob for believing that the news givers are hacks, I can just pull up the glib list and show story after story of hackery. So, who’s bored and wants extra work?

    1. Chipwooder

      Work???? You should know better than that, none of us work.

    2. Tundra

      If they listen to NPR it won’t make any difference.

      1. ArchieBunker

        I hold out a shred of hope that if confronted with a mountain of evidence they might get it. A person can only be pwned so many times, I think

        1. Tundra

          I admire your optimism. I have many family proggies, too. After years of me pushing back with libertarian principles they finally just stopped talking any politics when we are all together. Most importantly, I’m not on FB.

          It’s nice.

          1. Gordilocks

            Likewise. Talking politics with my in-laws is impossible, outside of the few areas where prog/libertarian issues overlap.

            Smile and wave.

          2. ArchieBunker

            You need to belittle them more. Eventually, after they cry themselves to sleep enough nights, they will come around.

          3. ArchieBunker

            Optimism is my only redeeming quality. I personally like Facebook. It’s my only opportunity to debate with people outside our little echo chamber here. I like you guys but it would be easier to find diversity (take two drinks) of opinions in a Heavens Gate convention

        2. Trigger Hippie

          ‘A person can only be pwned so many times’

          How quickly we forget Buttplug.

          1. ArchieBunker

            I still think he’s just a troll, not a true believer. Just dedicated to the troll

          2. +1 Stock Market bet

        3. juris imprudent

          Evidence? You think your puny evidence can compare to the power of the narrative?

  7. Juvenile Bluster

    So the GOP passed the new tax bill yesterday, dooming the Republic forever.

    Also, Democrats have now become budget hawks and are complaining about the amount this is going to add to the national debt (SLD: Fuck you, cut spending)

    1. Chipwooder

      Isn’t that the best comedy you’ve ever heard? The people who passed Obamacare are now extremely concerned about fiscal responsibility.

      1. juris imprudent

        And how reconciliation was used to sneak it through.

    2. leonadasiv

      Democrats always pull that. And act like it’s all the Republicans fault. The truth is that if the Republicans pushed a bill that cut taxes and spending, it would never pass, because the Democrats will never cut spending.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Unfortunately, neither will Republicans.

    3. DOOMco

      [This is so exciting gif goes here]
      It’s fun to watch them spin but they must be dizzy by now.

    4. Certified Public Asshat

      I guess to be fair, the Senate Bill is pretty terrible. Didn’t repeal AMT or estate tax. Republicans are still worthless.

      House Bill isn’t the worst, pass that instead.

  8. Trials and Trippelations

    Hey Nephilium,

    I was going to write a review of Raptor and Battle Line as a couple quick games since a few of the commenters in the first board game post mentioned having newborns and having much less time to play (myself included). But you beat me to the punch of quick games with your post yesterday 🙂

    Would you want a review of Battle Line or Raptor contributed to your 2 player game post? A first ever guest post within a guest post.

    1. Woah….meta. I have done Battle Line a few times, but am not familiar with Raptor, so please do reviews and submit to the box … I will add them in, since I edit the board game articles.

      1. Trials and Trippelations

        Cool I’ll work on that this week

    2. Nephilium

      I’ve got a write up of Battle Line (in it’s current form – Schotten Totten) for my 2 player game column. But I don’t believe I’ve played Raptor. The box looks familiar, but I believe that’s from being on the shelf at the FLGS.

      Can we put in the Inception sound effect here now? 🙂

  9. straffinrun

    Maybe covered, but…Hispanic Police Officer Detains, Berates Teenagers ‘Because They Are White’

    “Det. Gomez admitted his words were poorly chosen and insensitive and he immediately regretted what he had said,” Somerville said in a statement. “The Lake Villa Police Department does not condone this type of behavior of its officers.”

    Gomez was disciplined “for behavior unbecoming an officer” and will be speaking to the parents and teens involved, Somerville said. The details on his discipline weren’t immediately released.

    1. leonadasiv

      “immediately regretted what he had said,”

      I wonder if by immediate, he meant as soon as his boss found out.

      1. CORRECT. Also would have accepted “as soon as he found out he had been recorded.”

  10. Rufus the Monocled

    Re Ollie’s Tweet about candidate Trump. Well, he’s not their President, right? So technically they’re not wrong! In their minds.

    Anyway. Whatever happened to the idea of a professional photo? It seems journalists today strike a pose as if they’re building their Hollywood portfolio instead of projecting a stance becoming of their profession.

    This hipster look only compounds their incompetence if you ask me.

    1. Seems to me Ollie is calling out ABC news for the incompetence, form a few tweets later A good reminder here on why it is best to get two sources when reporting — particularly when it is a bombshell report like this. Looks like CNN might be on your side on this one.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Yes, it does. But then I saw a tweet about how the markets dropped by hour after the Flynn announcement. Talk about small sample cherry picking. Talk to me next week.

        I’m watching him. EYES.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          My point about the photo stands though. But I’m just an old, white, Gen-X guy.

          1. Looks like he wants to be a JC Pennys catalog model.

  11. Tundra

    Nice musical choice today, OMWC. Leo is a stud.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Fun fact: SP and Leo used to hang out back when she lived in LA. According to her, that weird rambling patter he does onstage isn’t an act, that’s exactly how he talks.

      1. Tundra

        Goddammit he was just here a few nights ago.

        Shit.

    2. My parents saw him play here in town a week or two ago. I should have gone but if Kottke can’t do 6 and 12 string, then I’m not interested 😉

      Watermelon

  12. Mustang

    STEVE SMITH ENJOY THE FINER THINGS, LIKE TEA. AND RAPE.

    https://imgur.com/a/YiapF

    1. STOLEN. Thanks, Mustang.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    First rule of Deep State- don’t talk about Deep State

    Mr. Tillerson has said the reorganization is his highest priority. He intends to slash the State Department’s personnel by 8 percent and its budget by 31 percent. The cuts are needed, he has said many times, because many of the world’s conflicts will soon be resolved. This view is dismissed as naïve both within the State Department and the broader foreign policy community.

    Mr. Tillerson has made clear he has little use for much of the day-to-day diplomacy conducted by his work force. Diplomats across the State Department spent much of Thursday and Friday checking their phones for news announcing Mr. Tillerson’s departure.

    His personal press aide, R.C. Hammond, is expected to leave his post this month, according to three people in the department with direct knowledge of the situation and who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss personnel issues.

    Mr. Hammond denied he would be leaving soon.

    “You are not so lucky,” Mr. Hammond wrote in an email. “You still get to work with me.”

    Oh, boo hoo hoo, that mean old Massah Tillerson is wrecking our cushy effete club for well bred gentlemen and ladies. Those aren’t just fancy dress balls and cocktail parties. We’re diplomacying our fingers to the bone.

    1. Viking1865

      He intends to slash the State Department’s personnel by 8 percent and its budget by 31 percent.

      No reasons to support Trump at all, not one whatsoever.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    so on Christmas when my family acts like I’m a nutjob for believing that the news givers are hacks, I can just pull up the glib list and show story after story of hackery.

    It’s fake news, all the way down.

    1. ArchieBunker

      Bullshit, my family does think I’m a nutjob. Nothing fake aboot that

  15. Gordilocks

    A fine defense of Jordan Peterson at Quilette. The mainstream media can’t stand Peterson and are aghast at his popularity (sound familiar?), so they must resort to lies and misrepresentations, which are handily dismantled by this piece.

    1. Count Potato

      This link works, but the page still isn’t loading properly:

      https://quillette.com/2017/12/01/defence-jordan-b-peterson/

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      They did and do it to Don Cherry. On one side is the media who loathe him and the rest of us who love him. Even the media people who like him temper it with a ‘he’s just an old guy’ posture.

      The NEVER talk about his many salient points. Just when he says things that can be construed to be ‘racist’ or ‘ignorant’.

      1. Gordilocks

        Peterson is a rock star because he’s basically describing life as it is, and in a time of a crisis of meaning in Western Civilization, he’s a fountain for the desperately thirsty.

        I went to a panel discussion where he took the stage with Gad Saad and two others, and they sold the place out; this was the day after that story from Laurier broke, and he spent part of the time discussing it. I can’t imagine what it must be like to be a public figure trying to fight the good fight, laying out the case for why we must be on guard against history repeating itself, and yet have to deal with such unbridled bullshit from morons in the media and the academy. He’s a stronger man than most.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          As far as I know, the only North American academic to be taking it as far as he is.

  16. Pope Jimbo

    Early prehistoric life was tough. Women hardest hit.

    Prehistoric women had incredibly strong, muscular arms — even stronger than the arms of modern female athletes, according to a study published this week in the journal Science Advances.

    The most likely reason for their powerful biceps was the long, grueling hours they spent grinding grain, tilling soil and fetching food and water for livestock, say the study’s authors.

    1. Tundra

      In other words, they were shouldering (literally) much of the hard physical labor that sustained their families and communities.

      While the deadbeat men just lounged around the cave scratching themselves.

    2. Yeah because running after game for miles, processing the meat, and lugging it back was the easy part. Or plowing/tilling the fields.

    3. straffinrun

      Prove it wasn’t making sammiches and hand jobs.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Do you even comprehend how much harder it is to give a handie to a Cave Dick than a modern schlong?

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Just making the lubricant out of rendered cave bear fat took several days. Clean up was also a bitch and a half without the invention of kleenex.

          1. straffinrun

            Who needs lubricant? I’d bet that’s how they discovered fire.

          2. Pope Jimbo

            The first ever argument about temperature between husband and wife?

            “It is cold in here, let’s start a fire”
            “No baby, just throw on another fur.”
            “I’m FREEZING! Why won’t you start a fire?”

  17. Shopping for new carpeting – put that in the category of “things I hate to do”. Also finding something with actual color – no Pottery Barn blandness in my house – that doesn’t clash with my mid century furniture is more difficult than I thought. 90% of the carpeting is some hue of gray or brown.

    1. straffinrun

      Go with crimson. Stains don’t stand out.

    2. Put in hardwood floors. Or, if you can’t afford that, laminate.

      1. I would but the main floor is super noisy already. Wood floors – even with a rug on top – would make this space very echoey (and the floors so cold). The tile here – split-level ranch, kitchen/living room on the bottom half – is already like a beer cooler.

        1. *the tiled part in the kitchen that is.

        2. Gordilocks

          Any issues with the insulation? A drafty basement or air leakage through windows or old walls can really make a place feel cold. The basement can really suck the heat out of your floors.

          1. It’s a mid-century bi-level. The lower half, where the front of the house is 1/2 in a hill while the back slider opens up to the backyard is a single large open space. So yeah – there’s some insulation leakage, but the windows have been recently replaced and so was the front door.

            But the floor, being on the ground with no airspace underneath it, gets cold in the winter time,

          2. Gordilocks

            I’m imagining your walls probably have only shitty fiberglass batt insulation, and yeah, the floor having direct contact with the ground without an intermediary level of air or insulation is going to suck heat, big time.

        3. westernsloper

          kitchen/living room on the bottom half – is already like a beer cooler.

          Fuck the carpet, buy beer. Problem solved.

          1. Gordilocks

            ^This Guy gets it.

        4. is already like a beer cooler.

          Feature, not bug?

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        What about vinyl? Going to be re-doing my upstairs flooring in the next few months, like the waterproof/scratchproof idea, especially with animals.

        Real hardwood really doesn’t work here in SoFla. Not sure how laminate compares with the vinyl.

        1. westernsloper

          I did my tiny abode with vinyl plank. I was not convinced when I did it because I thought it was a cheesy flooring option. I am sold and now and I love it. It is awesome flooring.

          1. Yep I wouldn’t have recommend it ten/fifteen years ago, but they seem to have made some big improvements. better locking system and more variance in patterns. The earlier stuff was either a bitch to snap together or would not stay snapped together and every other plank was the exact same grain pattern obviously fake. Clients really pleased with the last few I’ve done.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            Do you have any experience with the porcelain planks that look like wood?

          3. Yep installed quite a few last couple of years, seems to be a popular thing around here, like farm/apron sinks.

          4. If you’re asking because you want tips- As with any large format tile you want the floor as flat as possible, time spent filling low spots and knocking down high ones will be made up for during installation. Make sure you have the right trowel usually at least 3/8×3/8 inch notch or bigger. Back butter each tile. and lastly spend the money on a leveling/anti-lippage kit, oh and don’t try and overlap the rows by more than 1/3 of the length 1/4 is better. Anything else just ask away.

          5. Playa Manhattan

            Are they more or less waterproof?

          6. The planks themselves are but the grout and thinset is porous and water will seep through, you can use an uncoupling membrane system like schluter ditra and waterproof a floor/room but it’s costly.

        2. Count Potato

          How about bamboo? It’s extremely water and scratch resistant.

  18. Count Potato

    “Neo-Nazi Furries are Trump’s Latest and Most Puzzling Alt-Right Supporters”

    http://www.newsweek.com/2017/12/01/neo-nazi-furries-trump-latest-alt-right-supporters-718113.html

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Complete with an autoplay video on Papa Johns being the pizza preferred by the alt-right. Goddamn, Newsweek has really gone into the toilet.

      1. Brochettaward

        *kicks Papa John’s box from previous night under the bed*

    2. Rhywun

      There are probably more neo-Nazi furries than regular readers of Newsweek. Both numbers being less than a hundred.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        SAVAGE

  19. Pope Jimbo

    Speaking of women being hardest hit…

    Minnesota is failing its mothers of color: Postpartum depression rates are double for African-Americans

    Impassioned UofMn grad student rails against injustice. I’d love to get a followup from this gal in 10 years to see if her attitudes about our “abuse” of poor people has changed. Nothing seems to change the minds of idealists so much as actually rubbing elbows with the “victims”.

    I’m a public health professional with a career focus on improving population health and addressing inequities in our state. Postpartum mental illness is a glaring example of a treatable condition, with potential benefits that span generations. I’m also a taxpayer, and I’d rather see my tax dollars fund prevention, screening, and treatment for postpartum depression than the social support services needed by families that suffer untreated mental illness. Most important, just like our liberty, our collective health is bound together. I am ashamed of this “unequal distribution of health” in Minnesota, and I’m ready to acknowledge my privilege and take action to right the wrongs for women of color.

    My emphasis. I had no idea that my liberty depended on you fucks.

    1. R C Dean

      What’s “collective” health? If you are running a fever of 102, and I’m my usual 98, does that mean our collective temperature is 100?

      1. Think of the healthcare savings when no one is really that sick!

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I know! Most of us don’t have AIDS!

          We’re cured!

  20. The Late P Brooks

    The Atlantic takes sponsored content to new heights.

    These emotions have a pernicious and corrosive effect on American ideals. What makes America’s culture special is that it celebrates positive emotions—ambition, hope, doggedness—that have been sustained by a shared belief in the promise of social mobility, the opportunities people have for moving ahead in line or from one line to another. Over the last few years, research has pointed to the reduction of social mobility in America; increasingly, the line into which you are born seems to determine your life prospects. The key to reducing the divisiveness in America lies in restoring shared confidence that everyone who is willing to work toward upward mobility can still credibly aspire to it.

    To restore that confidence, Americans need to understand and empathize with those who are in lines different from their own. For me, that responsibility starts close to home. Many regard Harvard Business School, where I serve as dean, as offering its students an all-but-guaranteed path into the lines for the privileged. That places a particular burden on us to ensure our students understand their responsibility to create value before they claim value, and their need to foster economic opportunities and a better life not just for themselves, but for others.

    TSA lines are a metaphor for America. Line jumpers are everywhere. Bitter clingers harbor resentment and hate. The government must give everybody a fair shake. Harvard Business School is inclusive and noble. Whatever.

    Blah, blah, blah. Don’t mention the progressives’ active efforts to magnify social distinctions and stoke resentment, what ever you do.

    1. Rhywun

      Don’t mention the progressives’ active efforts to magnify social distinctions and stoke resentment, what ever you do.

      Not to mention their elected leaders’ deliberate policies to keep poor people in their place.

  21. Count Potato

    “Youtube Exposed And Hides Evidence”

    https://twitter.com/Andywarski/status/936758062316183552

    There is no way YouTube can blame this their advertisers not wanting to “offensive” content.

  22. Count Potato

    “Pineapple Pizza vs The World”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR_d8ddE-gs

  23. Count Potato

    “Mum demands school BANS Sleeping Beauty because she ‘didn’t consent to being kissed’”

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/883336/school-ban-sleeping-beauty-unacceptable-behaviour-sexual-harassment-me-too-campaign

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Leaving her out cold with those pervy dwarves running around would have been borderline criminal.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Wait, that was Snow White wasn’t it? Well damn, maybe she has a point then.
        Nah…

  24. Timeloose

    Verry OT again. Bomb sniffing dogs in Asia are hilarious. Golden retriever with big 5 litters of puppies tits. In Japan the drug dog at the airport looks like a coyote.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Dump your Sudafed now!

  25. Some Don Covay – the full album Mercy – where you can hear some Hendrix licks and where Mick Jagger apparently borrowed his early vocal stylings. Not the first time I posted Don here (or ToS), but I’m searching for original LPs of his work instead of the current CD compilation I have.

  26. Pope Jimbo

    I hope you jerks are happy!

    Local bloggers think you have broken Al Franken.

    That was it. Franken thanked everyone and the hearing ended.

    He had failed to lay a glove on the man whose nomination he held up. He had failed to lay a glove on the “process.” It was another lame, tame, subdued performance from the new Al Franken.

    I’m still suspicious. I think this is a ruse where Cool Hand Al is simply “shaking the bush boss” until he jumps in the truck and takes off leaving us all in his dust again.

  27. creech

    Most progs agree that the Bill Clinton era was nirvana until the evil GOP took over. Clinton’s final budget proposal was for $1.84 trillion for 2001. Sugar and spice and everything nice.
    Now, the Trump budget, which will ruin America because of evil GOP tight-fistedness, for 2018 is $4.1trillion. If one runs the inflation calculator, the Clinton budget is equivalent to about $2.6 trillion today. So spending is out of control under the GOP while still giving the lie to prog claims that there is nothing left to cut before America plunges into mass starvation and anarchy.

    1. The government has gone full throttle downhill and right over the cliff. No politician gives a shit about spending as long as they can get the votes and proceed to kick the can down the road for the next sucker. And someone – in the not so distant future – is going to be stuck holding the turd sandwich. Probably the voters who will stomp their feet and demand more government goodies where none are to be had.

      1. Hyperion

        But the left care about deficits now, haven’t you heard?

    1. Chafed

      Yeah. This doesn’t even have the pretense of not being for the paparazzi.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Wow. That’s Jenna Maroney level.

    1. juris imprudent

      And not a peep on the Ismael Lopez shooting.

    2. Oh, you and I would have had the same pace, had we shot someone, right?

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Have some long-winded rambling tedium to go with your Grape Nuts.

    Debates about free speech on American campuses today suggest that the rival concepts of isegoria and parrhesia are alive and well. When student protesters claim that they are silencing certain voices—via no-platforming, social pressure, or outright censorship—in the name of free speech itself, it may be tempting to dismiss them as insincere, or at best confused. As I witnessed at an event at Kenyon College in September, when confronted with such arguments the response from gray-bearded free-speech fundamentalists like myself is to continue to preach to the converted about the First Amendment, but with an undercurrent of solidaristic despair about “kids these days” and their failure to understand the fundamentals of liberal democracy.

    No wonder the “kids” are unpersuaded. While trigger warnings, safe spaces, and no-platforming grab headlines, poll after poll suggests that a more subtle, shift in mores is afoot. To a generation convinced that hateful speech is itself a form of violence or “silencing,” pleading the First Amendment is to miss the point. Most of these students do not see themselves as standing against free speech at all. What they care about is the equal right to speech, and equal access to a public forum in which the historically marginalized and excluded can be heard and count equally with the privileged. This is a claim to isegoria, and once one recognizes it as such, much else becomes clear—including the contrasting appeal to parrhesia by their opponents, who sometimes seem determined to reduce “free speech” to a license to offend.

    It all started with the Greeks. College hipsters at schools like Middlebury will redeem us.

    1. Count Potato

      What’s a grape nut?

      1. The nut of the grape. (insert sex joke here)

        1. Pope Jimbo

          heh, heh, heh

          You said “insert”

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      I found it neither long-winded, rambling, nor tedious.

      I also think you’ve misread the essay.

  29. Brochettaward

    Simple reason why the Mueller charges do matter. Sure, they’re fueling the left’s wild fever dream of doing an endaround the previous election and just impeaching Trump. But it also should be highlighting to many conservatives just how bankrupt the system is. You elect an outsider, and within the first year there is a witch hunt that…I mean, how the fuck can someone not compare and contrast this with the attempt of the FBI to plug its ears and close its eyes and scream at the top of its lungs to ignore the evidence in front of them against Hillary? The FBI already had their final report done exonerating Hillary before they investigated the principle target herself. Think about that one for a fucking moment. Lying to the FBI charges weren’t even on the table despite it being one of the most routinely used tools to fuck over everyone else.

    They have Flynn on nothing but lying to the FBI, and the left thinks it’s going to be used to roll up the rest of the Trump administration. Nothing about Flynn’s contact with Russians was illegal and I still don’t see what fucking business the FBI would have to even interview Flynn over his conversation with Russian ambassadors or policies discussed.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      While I agree with you, they likely had him on more than lying to the FBI. That’s the kind of singular charge that prosecutors will agree to when the person agrees to flip.

      1. Brochettaward

        Lost in all of this is that they were also going after Flynn’s son. And they reportedly had more on him, and again…completely unrelated to Russia.

      2. Just Say’n

        They had Flynn on a wacky plot between him and the Turks to kidnap that cleric in Pennsylvania that’s critical of Erdogen. That’s like some Scooby Do shit.

        The Russia thing is bunk and I think even Mueller realizes that, but he’s going to prosecute a lot of people for lying to the FBI

      3. Count Potato

        From what I’ve read so far, they didn’t. He lied, but it was about legal activity.

        “Moments ago, the special counsel released Michael Flynn’s “Statement of the Offense.” This document lays out Flynn’s crimes in far greater detail than the short “information” released earlier today. It’s important to state this clearly as possible — the statement contains no evidence of collusion with Russia to influence the presidential election. Instead, it amplifies the fact that Flynn apparently lied about contacts that were lawful and appropriate…

        So, at the end of the day, we may well end up with multiple senior members of the administration facing prison time for covering up no crime and no collusion, just contacts. If that’s justice, it’s a form of justice that will leave no one standing on the political high ground and partisans on both sides seething with rage and bitterness…

        Unless Kushner has lied to the FBI about these contacts, this is not a scandal. Nothing that we’ve seen in any of the plea deals or indictments yet indicates any scheme to collude with Russia to influence the election. To be sure, we haven’t seen all the evidence (ABC reports that Flynn was instructed to contact Russia during the campaign, and we don’t yet know the substance of these contacts), but right now it looks like Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI about doing his job.”

        http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/454275/there-no-evidence-collusion-michael-flynns-offense-statement

        1. Not an Economist

          (ABC reports that Flynn was instructed to contact Russia during the campaign, and we don’t yet know the substance of these contacts)

          ABC lied about this and got caught. They have issued a correction.

          1. Count Potato

            Although they sure took their sweet time.

          2. westernsloper

            I am starting to think they do that shit on purpose. They know most people will never hear about the correction. It is the Harry Reid Romney didn’t pay his taxes angle. Complete bullshit but………..’He didn’t win did he?’ – Harry Reid

            Lying and setting a narrative Trumps the truth. I hate them more than I dislike Trump and that kind of pisses me off.

    2. R C Dean

      They have Flynn on nothing but lying to the FBI,

      About something that wasn’t even criminal in the first place, fer fuck’s sake. This is a 100% manufactured out of thin air prosecution.

    1. Funny to see in the replies how nearly everyone is suddenly concerned about the deficit.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Not only that, they suddenly admit that 38-47% (depending on figure) of the population don’t pay taxes. I seem to recall when that was brought up they waved it off.

      2. kbolino

        I’m sure they’re all going to be onboard with spending cuts to close the deficit…

        *crickets*

        … any day now.

  30. TW: Zero Hedge

    ABC Makes ‘Epic Mistake’, Retracts Bombshell Flynn Story

    During a live Special Report, ABC News reported that a confidant of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn said Flynn was prepared to testify that then-candidate Donald Trump instructed him to contact Russian officials during the campaign.

    That source later clarified that during the campaign, Trump assigned Flynn and a small circle of other senior advisers to find ways to repair relations with Russia and other hot spots.

    It was shortly after the election, that President-elect Trump directed Flynn to contact Russian officials on topics that included working jointly against ISIS.

    I’m sure it was just an honest mistake.

    1. Brochettaward

      How would said testimony even matter? Talking to Russians isn’t a fucking crime.

      1. Hyperion

        DU are convinced this is it, they got him this time. Also, obviously Pence, McConnell and Ryan are done also. They think that maybe Bush will get appointed then. You cannot make up how dumb that bunch is. It never gets old, it’s better than the Onion.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          When I read the original version of this story, the one where the talking to Russians happened during the campaign, I thought it spelled some serious trouble but it now appears to be a big nothingburger. Those people are deluded.

          1. R C Dean

            The problem is, there is absolutely nothing illegal about just talking to Russians, even by a campaign operative during a campaign.

            There is a very long road from “You talked to Russians during the summer of 2016” to “You committed a crime”.

    2. Bob

      I don’t see that there’s a crime either way. Republicans should call democrats out for xenophobia for going around trying to criminalize talking to foreigners.

  31. Just Say’n

    The Republicans in the Senate just passed a racist tax cut. People will die!

    That’s not your money- you didn’t earn that!

    1. straffinrun

      The Senate bill would drop the highest personal income tax rate from 39.6 percent to 38.5 percent. AP.

      It was perfect where it was before. Why, you maniacs, why?

      1. Hyperion

        10 years after the Bush tax cut, leftists were still screaming about tax cuts for the rich. I’ve actually pointed out the rates for a couple of them to look at online, proving that the lowest earners got the biggest cuts, to no avail. Reality is meaningless to these idiots, it’s just the voices in their head, screaming about how their taxes are going up while the rich will now pay zero taxes. I seriously doubt that any of them have a clue what’s in the bill and most of them have probably never paid net positive taxes in their entire lives.

  32. westernsloper

    My dream kitchen is a Waffle House. Hell, I would like to live in a remodeled Waffle House.

    1. robc

      I heard a top tier chef say that every aspuring chef should work at a waffle house to learn how to run a kitchen.

      1. every aspuring chef

        Harry Kane?

  33. A meta-study of prostitution habits found that prostitutes in New Zealand were most likely to offer mammary intercourse as an alternative to penetrative sex. Therefore, I propose the slang term be changed from “Spanish sex” to “Kiwi sex”.

    http://archive.is/A5X8d

    3, 4, 26, 34

      1. How many of them asked for her number after it was revealed they were on candid camera?

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Wonder if she figured out that she could turn that joke into a real (and very lucrative) business?

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      26 looks like a RealDoll.

      1. If that means she doesn’t talk, so much the better.

        TIWTANLW.

      2. 4 is a re-enactment of Big Ol’ Anime Tiddys?!

        26 IS a Fembot!

        25, plz.

        Oh, and the more I see of these, the more I dislike tattoos.

    2. AlmightyJB

      20

    3. Michael

      Holy cripes. 31 can boil my bunny any day of the week.

  34. Count Potato

    “It is a federal felony, up to 10 yrs’ imprisonment, to be an illegal alien in possession of firearm (18 USC secs.922(g), 924). DOJ should indict Zarate if haven’t already. Sentence consecutive to today’s state gun conviction could keep him in prison 13 yrs or so.”

    https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/936449882897965061

    1. Count Potato

      “The illegal immigrant who killed Kate Steinle in 2015 was found not guilty of her murder by a San Francisco jury today. Outrageous, right?

      Before the killing, Garcia Zarate had been released from a San Francisco jail despite a standing federal deportation order. He had been deported five times before. This made him a very effective villain for Trump’s border security campaign messages — proof that sanctuary city policies kill! — and it’s natural to be sympathetic about Steinle, who died in her father’s arms at the far too young age of 32.”

      https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf/2017/11/30/lied-kate-steinle-case/

      1. As sick as the verdict is (and it’s truly outrageous they couldn’t at least get him on manslaughter), this is an early Christmas present for Trump 2020.

    2. Rhywun

      to be an illegal alien

      Good thing the poor dear was just an “undocumented immigrant” then.

      1. C. Anacreon

        It’s no fun being an illegal alien

        /Genesis

  35. More sperm facts (once I get digging it’s hard for me to stop):

    News from the testicle-brain connection; your balls respond when you suspect (or know) your woman of having sex with someone else. Jealousy’s a hell of a drug, something hardwired way, way down in the reptilian parts of our brains. Anyone who’s experienced it can attest to its virulence, it’s ability to squash love, happiness and even hate. If you’ve been away from your partner for any length of time, your brain will automatically assume she’s been being a very bad girl and drastically increase the volume and concentration of your ejaculation. This is doubly so if you actually catch her in the act; this explains why some people in the kink community find it so overwhelmingly arousing to witness their partner having sex with someone else. Your body and hormones are essentially gearing up for war. However, it’s not just the volume and quantity of semen that increases; your body will produce more so-called “kamikaze sperm” when infidelity is suspected. These sperm, which have only recently been discovered, are not designed to fertilize the egg. They are designed to recognize sperm from another man (exactly how they do this is not known) and attack them to prevent their reaching the egg. While small amounts are produced normally, a man who just saw his wife getting drilled by the well-hung Latino guy at the party will produce 40% more. The very shape of the penis itself has been shown to function as a one way valve designed for rooting out a preexisting ejaculation. This also explains the utility of the male refractory period; you don’t want to just keep going and going after your deposit has been made, you’d be rooting out your own contribution to the cause.

    1. Speaking of refractory periods, the flip side of this is that when presented with a novel partner, a male’s refractory period will typically disappear completely. Which is why once you’re done banging Miss Jones your kids’ homeroom teacher, you can start banging Miss Smith the cute barista with no break in between. Your body knows it’s at no risk of accidentally removing your genetic source code from Miss Jones’ palace of pleasure so it gives you the go ahead to be fruitful and multiply with the busty barista. This is known colloquially as the Coolidge Effect from a joke Silent Cal made about chicken sex.

      There are exceptions: some men seem to have no refractory period, though this is likely a bug not a feature (however much fun it likely is) due to something in the pituitary going haywire and not releasing a prolactin surge at the moment of orgasm. There is also a subset of men who have a condition called “hyperspermia” who are likely to experience multiple ejaculations. The typical ejaculation is 2-5 ml, whereas a male with hyperspermia will ejaculate 50 ml or more (approx. 1/3 cup) typically spread over numerous ejaculations in one sexual encounter. Again, fun as that sounds, it’s actually abnormal and considered a risk for sub-optimal fertility. Men with hyperspermia are likely to have to use ART to conceive children.

      1. ArchieBunker

        What, no boob pics? You disappoint Q

    2. Count Potato

      The same thing happens if you are in a long distance relationship. “Absence makes the heart grow fonder.”

  36. Ken Shultz

    So, you guys wanna hear, again, about how Rand Paul screwed us over on the ObamaCare replacement bill by voting against it?

    No?

    Well how ’bout Bob Corker?

    Bob Corker voted against the biggest budget cutting bill we’re likely to see in our lifetimes. The ObamaCare replacement bill cut $1.022 trillion in spending, $772 billion of it from Medicaid, an entitlement program–and Bob Corker voted against doing that.

    Now, Bob Corker has voted against tax cuts because it increases the deficit?!

    What a jackass!

    Who deserves the blame for the Republicans failing to cut $1.022 trillion in spending? I’ll tell you who–Bob Corker, that’s who! Well, Bob Corker and five other supposedly “fiscally conservative” Republican senators.

    Here are six senators who voted against the ObamaCare Replacement bill, but voted for repeal:

    Bob Corker Tenn.
    Tom Cotton Ark.
    Lindsey Graham S.C.
    Mike Lee Utah
    Jerry Moran Kan.
    Rand Paul Ky.

    —-New York Times

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/25/us/politics/senate-votes-repeal-obamacare.html

    Four of them are from states so deep red, they might never become swing states in our lifetimes. The other two are Bob Corker and Rand Paul.

    It’s interesting to note that IF all six of these had voted for the replace bill, it would have given the bill 49 votes, putting tremendous pressure on Senator Collins, Heller, or Murkowski to vote for the bill and put it over the top. That isn’t mere speculation either–after all, Collins just changed her vote to support the tax reform bill because of exactly that pressure, and the bill passed the Senate because of it.

    There are a number of excellent reasons to make fun of people who refuse to cut taxes because of the deficit. The list starts with the idea that the government will ever be so flush with tax revenue that it decides to cut spending–that belief is dumber than creationism. I’m going to suggest that using fiscal conservatism as an excuse to vote against cutting taxes is even dumber than that–if you’re the one who voted against the biggest cut to entitlement spending we’re likely to see in our lifetimes.

    1. Viking1865

      It’s interesting to note that IF all six of these had voted for the replace bill, it would have given the bill 49 votes, putting tremendous pressure on Senator Collins, Heller, or Murkowski to vote for the bill and put it over the top.

      I am actually laughing aloud at this contention.

      That isn’t mere speculation either–after all, Collins just changed her vote to support the tax reform bill because of exactly that pressure, and the bill passed the Senate because of it.

      No Ken, Collins voted because they agreed to keep the “cost sharing” provisions, along with other “give me dats”.

      https://hotair.com/archives/2017/12/01/sen-collins-will-vote-yes-tax-bill/

      1. Ken Shultz

        Collins gave in to pressure with some sweeteners. That’s how sausage and legislation is made. That Collins felt more pressure to compromise when she was the last vote they needed rather than one of six is hardly laughable.

        That’s how contentious negotiations work. The person who wins generally has the most leverage, and Collins was subjected to a lot more leverage when she was the difference between winning and losing.

        In all seriousness, this is like arguing with Tony over whether the demand curve is real. Why wouldn’t the last vote needed feel more pressure than when she was 7th to last?

        1. kbolino

          At the risk of repeating word-for-word what happened the last time I pointed this out, you have engaged, once again, in affirming the consequent.

        2. Viking1865

          lol, I am Tony now? OK, cool.

          I’ve explained this to you multiple times, and multiple times you have ignored the explanation in favor of your continued insistence that THIS IS THE ONLY CHANCE EVER.

          Rand wants the whole fucking thing. He’s not taking this bullshit compromise, because he, and Roy Moore, and a bunch of other pipe hitting niggas who ain’t Senators yet, but will be in January 2019 aren’t gonna be asking for compromises and grand bipartisan deal making. They’re just gonna repeal Obamacare, and that’s just the beginning.

          Like, why in the world are you so confused by this? Why in the world is this so difficult for you to grasp?

          The Dems and the RINOs desperately need an ACA “fix” so they can go back to the Trump states where they are up for reelection and talk about how they and Rand Paul and Trump worked together to fix Obamacare. Rand is not giving them that out. There will be no negotiated peace, no sharing of the troubles, no “fix Democratic program for the good of the country.” Repeal means Repeal, that’s the deal. If they won’t repeal it now, then he will come back in 2019 with a bunch of actual conservative Senators and do it then.

          1. Rhywun

            I like your optimism.

          2. Viking1865

            You’re not gonna get closer to liberty by going three steps toward statism and taking one step back every year. Rand actually gets that, and he actually believes it, he’s not just in this for the check and the power.

            Rand wants it gone for the obvious reasons of it’s horrible and needs to be gone, but also for snowball effect. If in 2019 they repeal Obamacare, healthcare costs will drop, things will get better, and then people are more inclined to listen to Rand when he proposes his next bill. More freedom is not only morally right, but economically beneficial.

          3. Ken Shultz

            The chance to cut $772 billion from Medicaid doesn’t come along every year. This is the first time there was a chance to do that ever–what’s that, 50 years?

            You don’t know that the House is going to pass a bill like that again in 2019 or that Trump will be willing to sign it.

            “If in 2019 they repeal Obamacare, healthcare costs will drop, things will get better, and then people are more inclined to listen to Rand when he proposes his next bill.”

            It’s unlikely that they’ll hold a vote to cut 11 million people off of Medicaid ahead of an election year like that, but notice from the text of the CBO report I linked:

            “In 2020, average premiums for benchmark plans for single individuals would be about 30 percent lower than under current law.”

            —-CBO under “Effects on Premiums and Out-of-Pocket Payments”

            https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52849

            The impact on the bill would have been dramatic in 2020–from January through November. Rand Paul voted against that.

            Rand Paul isn’t playing 3-D chess, and if he gave away a chance to do away with 95% of ObamaCare because of 3-D chess , then that would be foolish.

            The simplest explanation is that Kentucky is among the states with the highest rate of Medicaid patients per capita. The fact that they’re suffering from the implosion of coal and an opioid problem like the rest of Appalachia doesn’t make Medicaid any less popular in Kentucky either. Rand Paul is playing the long game, and cutting Medicaid isn’t as popular in Kentucky as it is with me. So, I suspect, that’s why he votes against cutting Medicaid–whenever there’s a chance that his support might actually cause the Medicaid cutting bill to pass.

            It isn’t unreasonable to think a politician might take his own constituency into consideration. If gun control were a thoroughly libertarian idea, I suspect Rand Paul would vote against that, too, because I don’t suppose gun control is popular in Kentucky, no matter what libertarians nationally think about that issue.

            “lol, I am Tony now? OK, cool.”

            Of course not, you’re a hell of a lot smarter than Tony, which is why you shouldn’t fall for that. Yeah, there’s more pressure on the batter when they’re down by two runs, there’s a runner on first, it’s the bottom of the 9th, there are two outs, and there are two strikes.

            I hope you appreciate, as well, that we should have been confident in the support of those six senators to vote to cut entitlements. There votes to cut entitlement spending, taxes, and regulation should have been a sure thing.

          4. Ken Shultz

            I may have neglected to close an italics tag somewhere. I’m just saying.

          5. Grumbletarian

            It’s unlikely they’ll hold a vote to cut Medicaid ahead of an election year? They held a vote to cut Medicaid a year ahead of the midterms, did they not?

          6. Ken Shultz

            They voted to cut Medicaid almost two years ahead of the midterms on the heels of an historic election won by a Republican president who campaigned on a promise to replace ObamaCare.

            I wouldn’t bet on congressional politicians sticking their necks out to be skewered for voting to cut Medicaid ahead of congressional elections, no. For those who are running in swing states, that’s a foolish risk.

            If you depend on swing voters in a swing state to keep you in your seat, you don’t want to leave yourself open to the charge of having voted to leave poor mothers and orphans out in the street to bleed to death, and you probably shouldn’t kick any puppies on camera either.

            Even Rand Paul depends on the votes of non-libertarians. They all do. That’s why we don’t have a libertarian government. The opportunities to cut entitlement spending like that are few and far between. You don’t take a strategic pass on them. We might never see another opportunity like that in our lifetimes.

          7. Hyperion

            Didn’t Rand and the Trumpalo just recently team up to work some voodoo magic about selling insurance across state lines and other positive things? And now they managed to get ending the penaltax in this tax bill? That is fucking huge whether some people know it right now, or not. The ACA cannot continue to exist without the penaltax. It’s not like Rand has just been grandstanding and not doing anything. What Rand effectively did is to prevent the stupid party from keeping Obamacare intact and OWNING it, for crikey sake.

          8. Ken Shultz

            Selling insurance across state lines is an ineffective solution in no small part because of Medicaid.

            Insurance companies in states with low Medicaid participation don’t want to sell policies in states with high Medicaid participation, and that’s what would need to happen in order bring premiums down for urban areas all over the country.

            The whole point of paying out far lower percentages if you go out of network is generally about keeping you in a hospital with which they have a contract on pricing–that protects them from the prices they’d incur if you went to a hospital with a large Medicaid population.

            Meanwhile, if Medicaid and Medicare are inflating the cost of care to the privately insured by 40% more than the cost of care, then we’re still talking about insurance companies competing to offer you a policy that has to pay for 140% of the cost of care (on average). That’s not the solution.

            There is no working solution to socialism that doesn’t include getting rid of some socialism, and there is no working solution to our healthcare problems that doesn’t also include cutting Medicaid. I’m not opposed to letting insurance companies sell policies across state lines in principle, but it doesn’t address the real cause of the problem. If the patient has a flu or the cold, I’m all for treating that, too, but taking care of his flu won’t solve the problem of blood gushing out of the bullet wounds in the patient’s chest.

    2. Hyperion

      We’re going to be rid of the ACA anyway as the penaltax has effectively been repealed.

      1. Ken Shultz

        Was that in the Senate Tax bill?

        I’ll be very happy if that’s so.

        Still, what about the ObamaCare Medicaid expansion. When do we get Medicaid cut by $772 billion?

        That was in the bill.

        https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52849

        1. Hyperion

          Yes, it’s still in from what I read this morning after the vote. There’s still always going to be a chance it gets stripped out in reconciliation. I hope not.

        2. robc

          Ot was added to the Senate bill by Paul.

          1. Ken Shultz

            That’s a little frustrating, but I”ll take it.

            It’s frustrating because he was supposed to have opposed the replace bill for what it didn’t do, but the tax reform bill does even less libertarian stuff than the replacement bill did.

            I’ll take it because I’m more interested in making the government smaller than I am in taking jabs at Rand Paul.

            For the anti-libertarian things Rand Paul did, I’m not so grateful, but I am grateful for the libertarian things he does.

            I’m certainly not about to condemn doing good things because they don’t do even more. That would be hypocritical. And if Rand Paul has seen the light on that, I won’t condemn him for changing his mind.

            If the prodigal son comes home, I’ll just say hallelujah.

            Still, we’d have had $1.022 trillion in spending cuts if . . .

    3. kbolino

      I agree with Viking1865 but I think you’re right about Corker. He wanted that automatic tax hike bullshit in the tax bill, but curiously never proposed an automatic spending cut. He’s just hoping for a nice tongue bath from the media when he retires next year.

      1. Ken Shultz

        Just as an aside, the reason I don’t blame Ron Paul for killing NAFTA is because NAFTA was ratified despite Ron Paul’s no vote.

        I don’t blame Rand Paul for the tax reform bill failing to pass because a) he voted for it rather than against it and b) even if he’d voted against it, I wouldn’t have blamed him for killing tax reform if it had passed the Senate despite his opposition.

        However, when you both vote against something and it doesn’t pass, that’s when you get the real blame from me. I hope you appreciate that this isn’t all about Rand Paul. It’s about failing to cut $1.022 trillion in entitlement spending that’s strangling our healthcare system with socialism, but I suppose it’s also about me believing that Rand Paul was someone I could count on to do the libertarian thing and cut entitlements in those situations–when no one else would.

        Corker is a shithead for what he did in both situations, but my larger point isn’t really about him either. It’s about how to make the government smaller, how to eliminate socialism, what to tell our friends and family–the latter of which is our real influence on public policy. Cutting taxes, spending, and regulation is what small government libertarianism is all about. That’s the process by which the government gets smaller. Regulation might include everything from forcing people to bake cakes for wedding cakes to the drug war, and the individual mandate. The hardest form of spending to cut is entitlement spending.

        When I point out that Rand Paul failed to vote for the best chance at making the government smaller we’re likely to see in our lifetimes, my main objective is not to embarrass Rand Paul. My main objective is to get my fellow libertarians focused on the things that really matter–making the government smaller by cutting taxes, spending (especially socialist entitlement spending), and regulation. We cannot expect politicians to focus on those things if we’re not even focused on them ourselves.

        The reason our politicians have successfully done nothing about gun control in the face of mass shootings is because a large part of their constituencies are clearly focused on that issue. If we want to see cuts in entitlement spending, we need to get clear like that–and not be distracted by personalities or peeves.

        And the only thing to not like about that bill Rand Paul voted against is what it didn’t do. If we ever get another chance to cut entitlement spending like that again, without any objections to anything it does, rather only to whatever else it could do, ten we should support that bill–no matter what personalities line up for or against it.

        1. kbolino

          When I point out that Rand Paul failed to vote for the best chance at making the government smaller we’re likely to see in our lifetimes

          *sees the bait dangling, walks away*

  37. straffinrun

    Jeez. What the hell is going on with this? Is this a parody of a parody or just a parody?

    1. Hyperion

      Labeling all white people as Nazis is the hottest new trend. Where you been?

      1. straffinrun

        So you see it as a parody of the alt right? Hmm. The rest of that dude’s channel is quite hostile to (((some people))). As nasty as that video was, I did laugh at the comment, “The Beach Goys.”

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Poe’s Law.

          That having been said, I do think it’s a mouthbreather’s earnest attempt at humor.

          1. straffinrun

            I just haven’t ever met someone who admitted to hating jews. Only on the internet. Kind of like how I’ve never found a stolen BLM agent’s gun under a bench.

          2. westernsloper

            I have met plenty of people who admitted to hating (((them))). They all practiced one particular religion, except one dude who was Yazidi, and lived in a certain region of the world. Yazidi dude loved Hitler for the holocaust. Other than their hatred of (((them))) they were all decent sorts. They were raised to hate (((them))). Religion is a powerful drug.

          3. Count Potato

            I blame Canada:

            “Report: Fewer hate crimes targeting Muslims, but substantial increases in hate crimes against Jews in Canada”

            https://pamelageller.com/2017/11/muslim-hate-crime-decline.html/

    2. Count Potato

      From the rest of the channel, it seems they are actual anti-semites.

    3. I have a hard time believing that’s sincere, but there are some pretty fucked up people out there so what do I know?

      PS: The Fraulein with beers at the beginning were pretty tasty.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        As discussed before, if you can’t tell if someone is being ironic when they advocate fucking goats, then, epistemologically, how are they different from a sincere goat fucker?

        1. They’re not. Poe’s Law/False Flag etc.

  38. The Late P Brooks

    The New Yorker– where pearl clutching never goes out of style.

    Many people imagine 19th-century antebellum America as a frontier fantasia: men with handlebar mustaches sitting in dusty saloons, kicking back moonshine whiskey, as a piano player picks out tunes in the background. In reality, though, life was a little more sordid: Americans spent their time after work in fully legal heroin dens; in 1885, opium and cocaine were even given to children to help with teething. “Cocaine Toothache Drops,” which were marketed as presenting an “instantaneous cure” were sold for 15 cents a box. Today, in the midst of our opioid crisis, we hear about this past and wonder unequivocally, what the hell were they thinking?

    I often wonder the same thing when I think about social media and its current domination of our society. Will a future generation look back in 10, 20, or maybe 100 years from now and wonder, mystifyingly, why a generation of humans believed in these platforms despite mounting evidence that they were tearing society apart—being used as terrorist recruitment tools, facilitating bullying, driving up anxiety, and undermining our elections—despite the obvious benefits and facilitations they provide? Indeed, some of the people who gave us these platforms are already beginning to wonder if this is the case. Last month, I wrote a piece detailing how some early Facebook employees now feel about the monster they have created. As one early Facebook employee told me, “I lay awake at night thinking about all the things we built in the early days and what we could have done to avoid the product being used this way.”

    If anybody needs me, I’ll be on the fainting couch.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Spare me

      1. Count Potato

        Lucky for you then, the link is SF’ed.

    2. kbolino

      Today, in the midst of our opioid crisis, we hear about this past and wonder unequivocally, what the hell were they thinking?

      Nothing. They were thinking nothing of it. Which is why it worked just fine. If you spent less time “unequivocally” thinking about things you don’t even begin to understand, then the world would be a better place. But you’d be left to sit at home and realize how empty your life is.

    3. Bob

      [blockquote]Many people imagine 19th-century antebellum America as a frontier fantasia: men with handlebar mustaches sitting in dusty saloons, kicking back moonshine whiskey, as a piano player picks out tunes in the background.[/blockquote]

      I think most people realize bugs bunnies version of history was not accurate. For some reason when progressives realize that, they assume nobody else has.

      1. AlmightyJB

        I was watching Truth or Fiction, and they did a show about those misconceptions of the old West. One thing I thought funny is how they always show hookers in the saloon, but according to this show there were no women in the saloons, all the hookers were in the brothels. Makes sense really.

        1. Akira

          Also, cowboy hats weren’t the standard headwear for men… Most people wore bowler hats or top hats. It was the mid to late 1800s, after all.

      2. C. Anacreon

        They write “19th-century antebellum America” and then talk about events of 1885. Antebellum America as I’ve always known it means ‘prior to the Civil War’, which ended in 1865, of course.

        Guess the New Yorker doesn’t have that department of cocaine-addicted fact checkers any more.

    4. AlmightyJB

      “Americans spent their time after work in fully legal heroin dens; in 1885, opium and cocaine were even given to children to help with teething. “Cocaine Toothache Drops,” which were marketed as presenting an “instantaneous cure” were sold for 15 cents a box. ”

      The good old days. Someone needs to Make America Great Again.

    5. Stinky Wizzleteats

      “in 1885, opium and cocaine were even given to children to help with teething. “Cocaine Toothache Drops,” which were marketed as presenting an “instantaneous cure” were sold for 15 cents a box.”

      Sounds like Heaven.

      1. Not an Economist

        FDR gave his “Date Which Will Live in Infamy” speech high on cocaine. He had a cold or sinus infection and his doctor gave coated his nasal passages with a concoction that included cocaine. The purpose of the treatment was to open up his nasal passages.

  39. Viking1865

    As one early Facebook employee told me, “I lay awake at night thinking about all the things we built in the early days and what we could have done to avoid the product being used this way.”

    If that’s actually a real quote and not the usual “reporter makes up perfect sounding quote to put in their story”, that dude might have hit a new standard in pants shitting hysteria.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    More pearl clutching-

    And then, there’s the biggest reason why people are abandoning the platforms: the promise of connection has turned out to be a reality of division. We’ve all watched the way Donald J. Trump used social media to drive a wedge between us all, the way he tweets his sad and pathetic insecurities out to the world, without a care for how calling an equally insecure rogue leader a childish name might put us all on the brink of nuclear war. There’s a point that watching it all happen in real time makes you question what you’re doing with your life. As for conversing with our fellow Americans, we’ve all tried, unsuccessfully, to have a conversation on these platforms, which has so quickly devolved into a shouting match, or pile-on from perfect strangers because your belief isn’t the same as theirs. Years ago, a Facebook executive told me that the biggest reason people unfriend each other is because they disagree on an issue. The executive jokingly said, “Who knows, if this keeps up, maybe we’ll end up with people only having a few friends on Facebook.” Perhaps, worse of all, we’ve all watched as Russia has taken these platforms and used them against us in ways no one could have comprehended a decade ago.

    And let’s hand it to them—Russia has used our social networks to sow discord like a marionettist wills a marionette. As one government official told me recently, “Putin’s surreptitious propaganda campaign has been one of the most successful in modern history.” All he needed, the official said, was social media. For the first time since I signed up for these platforms, I’m now in the camp of people wondering what the hell were we thinking?

    Those people enabled the Axis of TrumPutinism. Git a rope, boys!

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      We’ve all watched the way Donald J. Trump used social media to drive a wedge between us all, the way he tweets his sad and pathetic insecurities out to the world,

      We’re all pawns in the great game of media. With no agency, how can we possible survive?

      1. AlmightyJB

        Using Social Media to drive wedges? Who does that the most?

        1. The Golf Channel?

    2. kbolino

      As one government official told me recently, “Putin’s surreptitious propaganda campaign has been one of the most successful in modern history.”

      As one nobody in the bowels of the Federal bureaucracy with an irrelevant job told me recently, “We’ve all been doing our part to ensure that we keep this bullshit machine going full throttle as long as we can”.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The Russian Facebook brouhaha is the biggest load of horseshit I can remember in modern politics. Does no one remember Voice of America? Countless propaganda campaigns on the part of the United States to influence foreign elections? Obama’s very recent meddling in the Israeli election? And we’re supposed to be concerned about a couple hundred grand of online ads in an election that cost billions? The whole uproar is a testament to the stupidity of the American people.

        1. kbolino

          Russia is a distraction. The goal is to hinder, and ideally oust, Trump. For the average person, it’s just about getting a nice emotional high.

        2. Count Potato

          And half those ads were pro-Hillary.

        3. Charlie Suet

          It’s of a piece with the rubbish about ‘populism’ in various European elections. The political establishment has created a moral system to excuse its activities and flatter itself that it only ever acts in the name of ‘the people’. Confronted with that being torn down one way or another they resorted to pretending that the people have been hoodwinked.

          It’s false consciousness all the way down.

    3. Rhywun

      I’m sure Zuckerberg will repent and toss himself off a bridge any day now. After all, this is all his fault. Can you imagine living with that much guilt?

      1. kbolino

        Mark Zuckerberg Net Worth: 71.5 billion USD

        I bet he cries himself to sleep, every night.

    4. The solution to this is pathetically simple. Stop. using. Facebook. And twitter. And instagram. And whatever other dumbass “social media” apps consume every waking minute of your fleeting and precious life. Get a hobby. Build model train sets, learn a foreign language, volunteer at a homeless shelter. Alternatively, devote your life to rank hedonism and try to fuck your way through every partner in your particular state. Any of that is preferable to ruining your existence on meaningless pissing matches with strangers on “social media”.

    1. kbolino

      “It is the worst disaster the city has ever seen,” Morse told reporters at an evening news conference. … A firefighter was taken to the hospital with unspecified injuries, but no other injuries were reported.

      The property damage is serious, and hopefully the firefighter is okay, but come the fuck on. True or not, the statement is ridiculous and the voters should be clamoring to recall his grandstanding ass.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I don’t think most people realize how quickly and how easily a fire can get out of control. Once it gets going, as long as there is fuel, it’s going to keep going and your individual effort to put it out is most likely futile. Call the FD immediately.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Are you minimizing the contributions of the History Channel to the endangerment of society?

        2. Count Potato
      2. Rhywun

        So what is the proper response to someone burning down half of downtown?

        1. Is it arson if it’s unintentional? Maybe a Law-Glib can help out? If it is arson, I’m guessing life in prison. At the very least he’ll be paying restitution for the rest of his natural life.

          1. Rhywun

            Enh, I was just picking a nit with the “grandstanding” claim.

        2. kbolino

          “We will count our blessings and rebuild.”

          1. Rhywun

            Heh, fair enough.

        3. As Mrs. O’ Leary.

      3. For a sleepy place like Cohoes, it may well be the worst disaster they’ve ever experienced.

    2. Half a city? It was about 20 buildings, and some places with smoke damage opened the next day.

  41. Heroic Mulatto

    Here’s a pic from the last Glibertarians meetup:

    1. AlmightyJB

      Now I understand why I wasn’t invited.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Who do you think is depicted on the banner?

    2. I’m the second one from the left.

  42. The Zenome Project

    So, the tax reform bill did pass the Senate. I’m actually pretty happy about the bill, surprisingly. I didn’t think that a plurality of senators had the guts to vote for a package that repealed the Obamacare mandate, particularly Collins or McCain. What conservatives and libertarians need to fight for next, however, is to obstruct and blockade Alexander/Murray Swampcare, which is nothing more than a money pit to save the uniparty Democrats and the GOPe in Trump states.

    1. Certified Public Asshat

      As I said above, I think the bill sucks. They should just roll with the House version.

      1. The Zenome Project

        Real tax reform is not going to happen until the Senate majority expands (likely next year if the economy is good). The fact that the mandate was repealed and that the ridiculous corporate tax was pared down was good enough for me considering the narrow Senate lead.

    2. Hyperion

      Oh, so they’ve tricked you too? It’s not a tax cut bill! It’s this!

      Trojan Horse

      The Republican tax cut scheme is a Trojan horse to throw cancer patients out of treatment

      Yes, finally we have the truth!

    3. This is what conservatarians don’t get; strategy and tactics. We think that because we have principle on our side (which we do) we should just be able to get the whole kit-and-kaboodle and people will instantly understand how great our solutions are. It doesn’t work that way. It’s about setting up a one-way ratchet and making small, incremental victories while never, ever giving up on the ultimate goal. Progs are experts at this and why we have drifted so far left over the past 40 years. If Progs advocated for the shit they’re getting now back in the 60’s/70’s they would have been laughed at. So they just chipped away bit by bit. It works. We have the facts and the ideas, we need to work on our implementation.

      1. The Zenome Project

        A lot of people are predicting a wave election next year for the Democrats because of how angry the swamp rats in Virginia were. I think that it’s dependent on the economy: if the economy continues its boom with these small but important tax reforms, it’ll be very hard for the left to get moderate voters on board with their “Transform America” agenda.

        1. kbolino

          I think the left is going to make some gains in their strongholds, and Virginia is now one of them. But, that is not how you win the country. They might be able to throw the Senate into play, but the House is an uphill battle for them. Even with the courts on their side vis-a-vis gerrymandering, they don’t control enough state legislatures and thus can’t draw the districts in their favor. Best case, they get some district boundaries reverted in time for 2018. That still leaves them with a lot of districts that are too competitive to say they can safely win.

          Of course, if the right and the moderates are motivated for whatever reason in 2018, then they might not even get a chance at the Senate. They’re hoping TDS remains the most powerful force through November 2018 but that is not guaranteed.

          1. The Zenome Project

            The problem for Democrats is that in Virginia, the Trump coalition actually held up very well and was unusually energized for an off-year election with a president in power. He actually got more votes than McDonnell did in 2009, when that guy won in a landslide. Every single incumbent delegate seat that the Democrats flipped was in districts that Clinton won (and often won big, particularly in Richmond and NoVA). If the coalition that voted for a GOPe guy in VA holds in the Senate, they will be able to win seats in MO, IN, ND, WV, OH, and MT, as well as hold the AZ seat. Democrats have a horrible Senate map next year: their only real hope is actually taking over the House, and even that is extremely narrow.

          2. Viking1865

            They might be able to throw the Senate into play,

            Uh no, they can’t. The only real question with the Senate races is if the GOP gets to 60 or not. The map is incredibly favorable for the GOP, there are multiple red states with Dem Senators. MO and IN are flipping for sure. The Republicans aren’t going to have a net loss of seats. Worst case they flip MO and IN and lose NV.

            The big question is: can Trump push turnout in the Midwest in an off year election? Can he get his base out in MI, WI, MN, PA, OH, WV and actually get Republican Senators elected in those states. Can he can push a Republican over the top in FL? If he is able to pull that off, that’s when you see the possibility, the very real possibility, of Rand Paul basically writing legislation up, the Senate and House passing it, and Trump signing it.

            Does Trump have off year turnout? Obama did not, he was electoral poison for his party. Is the Trump fan motivated to send Senators to Washington who will vote for Trump’s policies, or is it gonna be like the Reagan Democrats who loved Reagan but kept sending Democratic legislators to DC.

          3. The Zenome Project

            Again, conservatives in VA were energized, according to exit polls. More minorities voted for Gillespie as a percentage than for Trump last year. The problem was that the left was rabid and the huge chunk of moderates work for the government, and we all know how they would vote (D!)

          4. kbolino

            I agree that the Senate map doesn’t look great for the Democrats based on 2016 results, but 2018 is an off-year election and the Democrats have an impressive ability to make votes appear.

        2. Hyperion

          VA has been tilting blue for a while because of NOVA. So electing a democrat governor or the state going to the democrat in the POTUS race is nothing really new, or surprising. As far as Congress goes, VA is still going to send republicans to congress from the red districts. This big wave they’re talking about isn’t going to happen. Why? Because not much is going to change. Trump’s voters are not angry with Trump. Democrat voters are going to hate anyone who’s a Republican president. No matter who would have beaten Hillary, the reaction from the left would be exactly the same. They really think that because VA governor is a Democrat, again, and a small string of victories in DEEP BLUE states, that signifies a blue landslide in 2018? They’re delusional.

          1. kbolino

            Like most elections, it will be more about relative turnout than some sea-change in opinion.

      2. Certified Public Asshat

        I get all that. Without digging into how much each provision “costs,” I think overall the Senate did a piss poor job of picking what stays in the code and what changes.

      3. Hyperion

        “Progs are experts at this and why we have drifted so far left over the past 40 years.”

        I agree, but I’d put that number closer to 100 than 40.

  43. Rhywun

    EPL Pro-tip: “video review” doesn’t work to make the game fair if you don’t use it.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      EPL = Enhanced Penile Length?

      1. Proven to add up to an inch in actual, no shit, peer-reviewed trials.

        https://www.amazon.com/4-Rod-Hybrid-Extender-Kit/dp/B077G5YT3T/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1512231716&sr=8-2

        Uses the principle of increased cell mitosis when under constant physical traction. The kicker is that you have to wear it 4-6 hours per day for 6 months to get any results. Ask for it for Christmas.

  44. Count Potato

    “Map: Illegal immigration costs California most, $23B, all states $89B”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/map-illegal-immigration-costs-calif-most-23b-all-states-89b/article/2642257

    1. kbolino

      Those numbers have an absurd amount of precision.

    2. Hyperion

      It’s ok, they just have to ask big daddy federal guvmint for a bailout once they run out of other people’s money in the state.

  45. Certified Public Asshat

    Is it antisemetic to say I find that picture to be very disturbing?

    1. AlmightyJB

      Jew babies are born as shriveled up peanuts and have to be blown up to regular size like a balloon.

      1. Rhywun

        have to be blown

        Oh, my.

        1. Picture illustrating the procedure in action.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      No, considering that the practice depicted is only performed by the Jewish version of “snake-handlers”. The average Jew isn’t coming into this world with a pedophilic blowjob.

      1. I often wonder what happened to my foreskin… Where is it now? Is it scared? Lonely? Has it found new purpose as a skin graft on some burn victim’s face? Would said burn victim be disturbed to know he has a dickface? So many questions…

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          If it was an Orthodox bris, it should have been buried.

          1. Plain old heathen, hospital slice.

          2. westernsloper

            It went into the soup then. The chicken noodle the next day had a bit of Q. Mine was done in NM so they made tamales.

          3. Mine in NM too, so maybe it was Carne Adovada.

        2. KSuellington

          I asked an Obstetrician once what he did with all the foreskins he had cut off over his twenty plus years doing circumcisions. He told me that he had saved them all in a jar with preservatives but that a few months before he decided to finally do something with them. He brought them to a leather shop and asked that they make him something with them. He returned a week later and was presented with a wallet. He asked why that was all that was made out of thousands of foreskins. The leather maker smiled and said that you had to rub it. Then it would become a briefcase.

          1. westernsloper

            BOOO!

            (It took all I had to not tell that joke)

          2. KSuellington

            True story.

  46. The Late P Brooks

    I found it neither long-winded, rambling, nor tedious.

    My tolerance for the professorial vernacular was never particularly robust.

    I also find myself slipping into the expectation that every discussion of contemporary democracy will devolve into advocacy for rule by the mob. “Vote now to raise the minimum wage; text #XXXXXX and let your voice be heard.”

  47. Count Potato

    “Scientists create cyborg monkeys that can control robotic arms with nothing but the power of thought”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5124447/Scientists-train-monkeys-robot-arms-MINDS.html

    I need to know what Newsweek thinks about this.

    1. Who do you think is writing Newsweek? Yup. Cyborg monkeys.

      1. Count Potato

        That’s an insult to both cyborgs and monkeys.

  48. Just call for a Final Solution already, this is getting tedious.

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10218

    1. AlmightyJB

      Pray for the gay. Will probably happen without prayer. Whatever quickens the end of the Royal line I’m for.

      https://hotair.com/archives/2017/12/01/anglican-cleric-let-us-pray-prince-george-turns-gay/

      1. Rhywun

        assuming the UK doesn’t wise up before he reaches adulthood and abolish the monarchy

        I don’t know why anyone (typically Americans) thinks this is remotely a possibility.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Yeah, they love their monarchy there.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      “In fact, OkCupid was the first dating app to expand genders and orientations, adding much-needed nuance like queer and lesbian along with many others. We have 22 genders options and 12 orientations to choose from,” Hobley pointed out.

      The only appropriate response is “fuck off.”

      1. Rhywun

        That is pretty useful, actually. I would certainly avoid “queer” like the plague.

      2. Hyperion

        22 gender options. OK, then.

    3. Count Potato

      “A spokesperson for OkCupid vehemently denied the claim, pointing out that it has 22 gender options and 12 orientations to choose from, and even lets users select up to five descriptions at once.”

      That’s retarded.

      1. Rhywun

        That’s retarded.

        That’s one of the gender options, I imagine.

    4. Count Potato

      “In an article for the Journal of Feminist Geography”

      I see the problem right there.

      1. The Elite Elite

        “Feminist Geography?” The hell is that?

    5. “Invisiblizes”

      Not an English professor, I assume.

    6. MikeS

      “identifies as a woman” but uses “he/him/his pronouns”

      So she considers herself a woman, but wants to be addressed with masculine pronouns. Did MLW cover this flavor of crazy in her glossary the other day? I don’t remember seeing this.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    Pearl clutcher link
    It’s Vanity Fair, not New Yorker; no wonder it didn’t work.

    *maybe

  50. The Late P Brooks

    The NYT news alert on my phone says, “Most sweeping tax reform ever” or some such thing.

    It seems more like tinkering around the edges, to me. But enabling Fester Q Moneybags to cling to a few more doubloons will undoubtedly be the death of the American dream.

    1. “Fester Q Moneybags”

      No relation.

    2. kbolino

      I’m pretty sure the passage of the 16th Amendment was more “sweeping”. Or the time they raised the rates to 95% for WW2. Or when they cut the rates by over 20 percentage points. Or the second time they did that. Or the time they got rid of the personal interest deduction and added the mortgage interest deduction. Or …

      But nope, I’m sure the NYT’s got the honest assessment of this.

  51. Derpetologist

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39571/

    ***
    A judge has ruled that a San Francisco area school district was within its rights to suspend five students for “liking” and commenting on fellow student’s racist Instagram posts.

    The reactions to the images — which included “nooses drawn around the necks of a black student and coach and comparisons of African-American women and students to gorillas,” according to the Associated Press — were made off school property, and the Instagram account was private.

    The students had filed suit back in May and noted that when word of their online activities became known, they were “confronted by an angry mob of their peers” which “cursed and jeered” while “school staff ‘literally stood there and looked on.’”

    U.S. District Judge James Donato ruled the suspensions were not a violation of the students’ First Amendment rights as their actions “contributed to disruption at Albany High School.”
    ***

    So the 1st Amendment is now void if you say something that makes people angry.

    1. Rhywun

      “confronted by an angry mob of their peers” which “cursed and jeered” while “school staff ‘literally stood there and looked on.’

      I’m glad that struggle sessions are making a comeback.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        If you were a teacher in that situation, would you risk stepping in the middle of that?

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      So the 1st Amendment is now void if you say something that makes people angry.

      From what I understand, since Tinker, case law is clear that student speech, be it intramural or extramural, that has the potential to disrupt the learning environment is not protected under the 1st.

      1. Gilmore

        the speech regulation at issue in Tinker was “based upon an urgent wish to avoid the controversy which might result from the expression… The Court held that for school officials to justify censoring speech, they “muerst be able to show that [their] action was caused by something more than a mere desire to avoid the discomfort and unpleasantness that always accompany an unpopular viewpoint,” that the conduct that would “materially and substantially interfere with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school.”[5]

        i can see why they’ve had to constantly add to this over the ensuing decades, because you could drive a fleet of schoolbuses through the subjective-differences between “mere discomfort and unpleasantness” and “appropriate discipline”.

        given that teachers *apply* no discipline at all to students that run riot when being ‘triggered’, i’d guess a decent lawyer could show that modern schools demonstrated no appropriate discipline-standards before the fact, and consequently have no basis to claim that X-example of inflammatory speech interfered with their ability to do their jobs.

      2. kbolino

        But that’s a perversion of Tinker and a terrible standard, to boot. It basically turns the heckler’s veto into an official process whereby anybody who doesn’t like something can force it out by virtue of creating a disruption. This particular case is especially absurd since it is obvious that the originator and other participants in the offensive expression never intended for it to be made public. That raises it from heckler’s veto to witch hunt.

        1. kbolino

          Also, Derpetologist didn’t quote this part, but one of the students was expelled. And the expulsion was upheld.

      3. Gustave Lytton

        Which is BS when the learning environment is disrupted because the staff won’t do their job to stop such disruptions.

        1. Gilmore

          the learning environment is disrupted because the staff won’t do their job to stop prevent such disruptions.

          basically my same point. they let kids run riot and essentially stand around pleading sans any willingness to enforce good-order. they blame “speech” for their abandonment of responsibility.

    3. Gilmore

      I can’t remember the details, but the SC has ruled in various (sometimes conflicting) ways on how public-schools are allowed to police student speech. basically, ‘schools’ are sometimes given latitude in ways that wouldn’t fly elsewhere.

      Bethel School District v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986), was a landmark decision[1] by the United States Supreme Court involving free speech in public schools. High school student Matthew Fraser was suspended from school in the Bethel School District for making a speech including sexual double entendres at a school assembly. The Supreme Court held that his suspension did not violate the First Amendment.

      Hazelwood School District et al. v. Kuhlmeier et al., 484 U.S. 260 (1988), was a landmark decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that held that public school curricular student newspapers that have not been established as forums for student expression are subject to a lower level of First Amendment protection than independent student expression or newspapers established (by policy or practice) as forums for student expression.

      Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held, 5–4, that the First Amendment does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.[1]

      i don’t think the incident you describe fits neatly into any of those, but the reasoning the court used probably borrowed from each.

      1. kbolino

        Ugh, I remember when Morse was decided. What a ridiculous decision. “Sure, speech is protected, but DRUGS!” At least Clarence Thomas had the consistency to say that he wants Tinker overturned entirely.

  52. Derpetologist

    Final death toll in Somalia’s worst attack is 512 people
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/12/02/final-death-toll-in-somalias-worst-attack-is-512-people.html

    ***
    Somalia’s capital is 512 people, according to the committee tasked with looking into the country’s worst-ever attack.

    The final toll is a dramatic increase from previous estimates of more than 350 killed. The committee’s report, obtained by The Associated Press, says another 312 people were wounded in the Mogadishu bombing and 62 people remain missing.

    Somalia’s government has blamed the al-Qaida-linked al-Shabab extremist group for the Oct. 14 attack, which struck a crowded street. Security officials said the bomb weighed between 600 kilograms and 800 kilograms (1,300 pounds and 1,700 pounds) as the extremist group’s bomb-making capabilities grow.

    The attack appalled Somalis, with some calling it their “9/11.” Thousands later marched in defiance against the extremist group, while the president announced a new military offensive.

    Al-Shabab often attacks high-profile areas in Mogadishu. Somali intelligence officials have said the massive truck bomb was meant to target the heavily guarded airport, where several countries have embassies, but instead detonated in the crowded street after soldiers opened fire and flattened one of the truck’s tires.
    ***

  53. Derpetologist

    The brilliant Pat Condell on the UK’s hate speech police

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJzDmZDfQI8

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Nice to see him back. I felt he lost his way over the past year and the quality of his rants went way down.

      Also, what happened? He didn’t have those liver spots before.

  54. Count Potato

    SJW LOGIC FAIL and Victoria’s Secret Models Sing N Word

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=&v=_LJMW1yBoGs

  55. The Late P Brooks

    U.S. District Judge James Donato ruled the suspensions were not a violation of the students’ First Amendment rights as their actions “contributed to disruption at Albany High School.”

    The Bill of Rights becomes null and void when you pass through that schoolhouse door.

  56. Derpetologist

    For those wondering what Navajo sounds like:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFayFUiyv20

    Yeah, it’s a little more complicated than Pig Latin.

    Imagine the difficulty of someone with no knowledge of Navajo trying to make sense of that.

    1. Akira

      Interesting.

      I wonder why they are saying the numbers in English instead of using the numbers that they presumably have in the Navajo language.

      I find it odd how you will often hear non-English speaker slipping seemingly random English phrases into their speech. I used to work in an office with these two Indian women, and when they would speak their own language to each other while discussing some kind of process, I would hear bits of English like “press F11” and “save your document“.

      1. Derpetologist

        Often, bilingual people will say whichever word they think of first or whichever word is shorter. Also, there is a tendency not to change languages with a short sentence, such as commands.

        It’s very unlikely that you would hear someone bilingual in English and Spanish say something like “turn a la derecha.”

        1. Tulip

          I think it is how the brain processes language. I took French in college and got pretty good, but lost it over years of not using it. Then I took a Russian class. I would start a sentence in Russian, but often end in French. If you had asked me to say the phrase in French, I wouldn’t have been able to do it, but it came out while I was grasping for the Russian words. Brains are weird.

          1. Akira

            I studied (by myself) both German and French, though I never got very good with either of them. I tried to listen to as much music in those languages as possible so that I would get used to hearing and understanding the words. Sometimes, my brain would be unsure of what language to listen for, especially if the sounds of one language coincidentally formed a word or phrase in the other language. It was trippy.

    2. Count Potato

      Everyone knows the weather is supposed to be in Spanish.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25gqxVrvbYk

      1. Count Potato

        It doesn’t even matter if you understand Spanish.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjxLNtGELHc

        1. Count Potato
          1. Count Potato

            Although maybe this one could slow down a bit.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFeGUNMEm4Y

          2. Count Potato

            This is better, but a bit sing-songy.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe2pLL1tWII

  57. Derpetologist

    Darth Vader sounds scary as hell in Navajo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR13lIRLfic

    1. The state of the Navajo rez makes me have a sad; that’s why I support the Indian Casinos unequivocally. I support gambling in general, but I find it pretty sweet when the rez is bettering their situation through free enterprise.

      1. kbolino

        I think the Casino situation on many reservations is more like Venezuela depending on oil revenues than a community bettering itself through free enterprise. “Sure, we have really shitty concepts about property, ownership, civil liberties, and governance of the tribe, but we can paper over all those problems with money!”

        That having been said, I would sooner burn the BIA to the ground than oppose the casinos.

      2. Count Potato

        They should just privatize the land.

        1. Pan Zagloba

          Baby steps, but my favorite Canadian First Nation has started working on it.

          It’s not huge in absolute terms, but compared to other tribal government, it’s outright (counter-?)revolutionary.

  58. Gustave Lytton

    If you needed proof of the antisemitism that permeates the White House, look no further.

    Ah, the latest Tillerson is incompetent/about to be fired/isolated/likes two sugars in his coffee/flushes only once story. These idiots think there’s a Ministry of Truth throwing yesterday’s newspaper into a memory hole and proceeding like each story is some out of the blue brand new revelation instead of a series of clear (incompetent) attempts to try to get rid of Tillerson. Every time I see another report, I’m thinking he’s on the right track. Fuck those people hard, Rex!

    1. westernsloper

      I am only able to hear news in tidbits these days, but one tidbit I heard was that Kushner was pissed at Tillerson for not sending a State Dept cattle call along with the lovely Mrs Kushner/Trump when she went to India to the girl power conference. Kushner is a sniveling crooked little prog fuck and I would not put it past him to try to run Tillerson out. I also listen to NPR in the morning on my way to my new dead end job. It seems almost every morning they have stories of how Tillerson has not filled so many oh so important overseas State Dept bureaucrat positions. He is failing to put the right top men all around the globe to make the world a better place according to NPR. I say keep all the posts vacant and close the offices. Fuck you cut spending bitches. It might just be Rex has that plan.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Someone’s trying to force Tillerson. These daily trickles aren’t pissing out of the air.

  59. Rhywun

    God I fucking hate Man U. That is all.

  60. KSuellington

    That is good news that the Obamacare mandate will be ditched and there will be some tax reform. The proggies are having an absolute meltdown about it. They don’t seem to be in favor of the provision that lets GOP Congress critters literally push grandmothers in wheelchairs over cliffs.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Yeah, one of the D’s was on the news last night whining about it. Fuck you bitches, reap your whirlwind. Wife was unhappy that I was pleased about their unhappiness. Also when I started laughing when that fat hack Shields was lying his way through how Mueller is such an upstanding non-partisan guy.

      1. KSuellington

        It is a step in the right direction. I imagine we will be seeing plus 3% growth for the next years.

  61. The Late P Brooks

    Spotiy dropped this in my ear a while ago.

    Thought I’d share it with you alls.

  62. The Late P Brooks

    HuffPo headline from goolynooz:

    “Customer Sneaks Into Kitchen at waffle House”

    I think somebody has never been to a meatspace Waffle House.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Not my type, but nice to see her using eye & ear protection.

  63. And this is just shitty safety practice, especially with the lack of trigger discipline.

    https://ftopx.com/large/201210/41511.jpg

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Yeah, you need to apply more force backwards against the 92FS/M9 to keep them from firing when the trigger is pulled. Those silicone bags are too spongy for that.

    2. Count Potato

      Maybe they’re fake?

  64. The Late P Brooks

    So pure, so righteous

    She said a flight attendant offered to move her to another seat in the back of the plane, but she declined. “Why is it the woman that needs to switch seats in this situation? Shouldn’t he have been thrown off the plane?!” she said.

    “We cannot support businesses that are complicit in allowing this behavior, and value the money of harassers over the comfort of their passengers,” she added.

    How much money has facebook made accommodating loudmouth assholes? When will society take a stand?

  65. The Late P Brooks

    “Passengers have a right to feel secure, and airlines have a legal duty to protect passengers from harassment, especially if they are aware that a passenger is being harassed,” Mr. Maloney said. “Once Ms. Zuckerberg told flight attendants about this man’s behavior, they should have moved him to a different seat or ejected him from the airplane.”

    “Oh, you want a parachute? That’s extra.”

  66. Having watched “Guru: Bhagwan, His Secretary and His Bodyguard” has made me even more convinced that we need to start a cult. Now *thats* employing the weakness of human groupthink to your advantage.

    1. peachy rex

      Did no-one tell you? Oh dear. This is awkward.