Much has been made in recent years of the looming replacement of human drivers with Robots Self-Driving Trucks. I, for one, welcome our new Overlords of The Road, and my concerns lie less in the inevitable evolution of technology, and more in how the state, and large, corporatist, Legacy Carriers, have been slowly chipping away at the autonomy of the individual, Over The Road, Long Haul Trucker. In this article I hope to illustrate the history and recent trajectory of this trend, and explain the extent to which the regulation of the Trucker has destroyed a once honored and noble occupation, and caused me to give up on it for good … even though I’ve had a pretty successful 20 year run in the business. Perhaps, if you wonderful Glibs will have me back, I might comment on why I think those robot trucks are a bit further away than their cheerleaders anticipate, and give some insight as to why certain sectors of the business will probably never be fully automated.
Jimmy Carter Deregulates The Business End of Trucking
Back in “The Old Days”, getting into the trucking business was extremely difficult. A prospective trucker had to seek a license, much like a taxi medallion, to even operate, and any rates you negotiated with your customers were mandated to be public knowledge, and could be interfered with by the Interstate Commerce Commission. Most trucking was done by in-house transport; many shippers had their own trucking fleets, or hired lease operators who had to run exclusively under those shippers’ operating licenses. Of course, this lead to unnecessary inefficiencies, inflated rates, and a rather noncompetitive marketplace. And that’s not even considering the effects of one James Riddle Hoffa. *(Warning, shameless plug for one of my favorite commentators and pod-casters, well known to the readers of this site.
All of this mess in the marketplace was somewhat corrected, and the field further opened to competition, by the passage of The Motor Carrier Act of 1980, signed into law by President Jimmy Carter on July 1, 1980. Similar legislation followed, both provincially and federally, in my homeland of The People’s Soviet Republic of Canuckistan.
Of course, this momentous bit of de-regulation was met with howls of protest by the dominant legacy carriers, who were now losing their oligopolies, and, to this day, is also complained about by that portion of the truck driving community who do not understand what free markets actually mean in practice. God knows I’ve been wincing at their economically illiterate commentary since I was a kid, especially given that de-regulation allowed for once small, independent operators, like my former employers here, to grow from a tiny, family run operation, to having a fleet of nearly 100 tractors and 300+ trailers, a warehousing division, and to such size that they now employ over 200 people.
That’s the good news part of this article.
Any Action Will Be Met With an Equal and Opposite Reaction
The late 1980’s and early 1990’s saw a massive increase in the competition in the trucking marketplace, which also saw the growth of 3PL’s, also known as load brokers. Many more new companies were opening, many more independent owner/operators were hitting the roads, and the marketplace continued to evolve. Things at the operational end of the business, however, were also evolving, and not always in a good way.
The state, as it is want to do, can never leave a good enough thing alone, and major increases in roadside enforcement operations began to take place. One thing that had not changed over this period of de-regulation of the marketplace was the hours-of-service (HOS) rules governing the amount of time a Trucker could work, how much rest was required, and when. What had also not changed, since their introduction in the 1950’s, was the use of paper log books, by which truckers were supposed to record their driving hours, location, odometer readings, commodity being hauled, and base of operations, such that enforcement personnel could keep an eye on us. The Nanny State was not satisfied with this arrangement, and through fits and starts in the early 2000’s they began to dismantle a regulatory framework, which, when matched with the ‘pliability’ of paper logs, allowed for an easier to manage compliance situation for most drivers smart enough to work with, through, or around the rules.
From the linked wiki –
Between 1962 and 2003, there were numerous proposals to change the HOS again, but none were ever finalized. By this time, the ICC had been abolished, and regulations were now issued by the FMCSA. The 2003 changes applied only to property-carrying drivers (i.e., truck drivers). These rules allowed 11 hours of driving within a 14-hour period, and required 10 hours of rest.[9] These changes would allow drivers (using the entire 14-hour on-duty period) to maintain a natural 24-hour cycle, with a bare minimum 21-hour cycle (11 hours driving, 10 hours rest). However, the retention of the split sleeper berth provision would allow drivers to maintain irregular, short-burst sleeping schedules.
The most notable change of 2003 was the introduction of the “34-hour restart.” Before the change, drivers could only gain more weekly driving hours with the passing of each day (which reduced their 70-hour total by the number of hours driven on the earliest day of the weekly cycle). After the change, drivers were allowed to “reset” their weekly 70-hour limit to zero, by taking 34 consecutive hours off-duty. This provision was introduced to combat the cumulative fatigue effects that accrue on a weekly basis, and to allow for two full nights of rest (e.g., during a weekend break).[2]
In 2005, the FMCSA changed the rules again, practically eliminating the split sleeper berth provision. [10] Drivers are now required to take a full 8 hours of rest, with 2 hours allowed for off-duty periods, for a total of 10 hours off-duty. This provision forced drivers to take one longer uninterrupted period of rest, but eliminated the flexibility of allowing drivers to take naps during the day without jeopardizing their driving time. Today’s rule still allows them to “split” the sleeper berth period, but one of the splits must be 8 hours long and the remaining 2 hours do not stop the 14-hour on-duty period. This rule is confusing and impractical for most drivers, resulting in the majority of drivers taking the full 10-hour break.
The split sleeper provision, such as it was, was the tool in our HOS regimen which gave us the flexibility to meet the demands of life on the road, shipping schedules, traffic, you name it. If you were held up at a customer, unpaid and with nothing you could possibly do about it, as is a common practise and endless source of frustration for the average trucker, you could at least log that time in the bunk, and make up the driving time later. No more.
In 2005, the FMCSA changed the rules again, practically eliminating the split sleeper berth provision.
This rule change, as well as the introduction of satellite linked electronic log devices, or ELDs, which become the law of the land this month have pretty much eliminated the possibility of most truckers being able to work around any schedules, traffic, weather, or this little thing called ‘life’; and to my great disgust, further remove any autonomy one might have as a trucker. As has been posted here in a thread by yours truly a few weeks back, this is certainly not good news to the over 3 million truckers in North America who are being affected by these changes. I mean, who doesn’t want Uncle Sam riding shotgun with you, telling you when you can eat, sleep, or shit, or undermining your fourth amendment rights against your privacy? Sounds like fun, doesn’t it?
Some anecdotes from my last trucking job about how that effects your life on the road –
Situation a – I am dispatched from my former employers home base in Syracuse, New York, to a trailer manufacturer in Cheeseheadville, Wisconsin, to pick up a brand new trailer. Around midnight, I get tired, and pull in to the Petro Truck Stop at Angola, Indiana. No problem, right? Yours truly wakes up at a little after 630am, pre-trips the truck, has breakfast, and is ready to roll at 730. But according to Uncle Sam, and the mandated logging device in my truck, I cannot go anywhere til 10am, when the minimum required 10 hour break is up. So I have 2 and a half hours to catch up on the fun and excitement to be found here at Glibertarians Dot Com, but not make any fucking money, all because some enlightened public servants pieces of shit at the FMCSA have deemed that my sleep patterns must fit into what they believe is a proper regimen of rest.
Situation b – Yours truly is on his way back to Syracuse, on a similar trailer retrieval mission as situation a. Approaching Cleveland, I am about to run out of available driving hours, and pull into the last service plaza on the Ohio Turnpike prior to the 90 splitting off into the west side of Cleveland. Guess when my ten hour rest period allows me to drive again? Right in the middle of morning rush hour. Under the old regimen of paper logs and the split sleeper provision, or if I worked in a civilized place that allows for 16 hour (or more) windows for your drive time to be completed, or allow more driving time (such as Canada, where it is 13 hours, or Western Australia, which is quite similar), I could have kept driving through Cleveland in the evening, and parked on the east side of town, thus avoiding contributing to rush hour traffic. The next time you are sitting in traffic in some major metropolitan area, and you’re wondering why all of these trucks are on the road at the same time, you know who to blame.
And there are millions of situations like this taking place every day, in every subdivision of the trucking industry. Imagine being a cattle hauler, and you have a full load of calves on board, and it’s winter time. You run out of your 11 hours driving time, and have to stop, in the middle of winter, most likely at a location where you can’t unload your cargo and get them inside somewhere where they won’t freeze to death. Or imagine that you are me, or one of the many other people who used to run The Ice up North (remember this stupid piece of crap of television?), and your run basically can’t be done, because it’s 16 hours from Yellowknife to the mine under optimal conditions. In fact, there are so many of these situations, that dozens and dozens of industry groups that depend greatly on trucking are lining up and begging for exemptions to the rules.
And the trucking industry continues to wrestle with a driver turnover problem, that, although it has decreased slightly through 2015, appears to be on the rise again. Gee, I wonder why?
It also seems that many of the older guys on the road, gents who have been trucking for many decades and are used to managing their own schedules, regardless of what Uncle Sam has to say about it, are going to take early retirement or find something else to do.
At Werner, as Leathers explained, the number of drivers in the 60-67 age group had held steady for “a long, long time,” as a few would retire and about an equal number would move up.
In the 90 days leading up to the hours-of-service change, that number fell by half.
“It’s my belief that’s a representative sample across the industry of drivers who just said, ‘I’m out. I’m done. Thanks, but I’m moving on,’” Leathers said. “That’s been the silent victim of these changes: The drivers that are probably some of the most-qualified we have are saying, ‘I’ve had enough and I’m not going to do it.’ That’s concerning.”
Steve Gordon, COO of Gordon Trucking Inc., offered a similar take.
“The thing that’s most unfortunate is we’ve worked very hard to build a better lifestyle for our drivers – more out-for-a-week, home-for-a-weekend opportunities. The new restart has been most painful for those folks,” Gordon said. “They can’t leave the house until after 5 a.m. If they get hung up somewhere, they lose that time the next week. So the very people we’re trying to tell, ‘we’re going to do right by you, we’re going to get you home to see your family,’ they’re the ones paying the price.”
Think about this for a minute. A job which attracts people who typically want to be left alone, or have some kind of ‘adventure’, or at very least not be under the nose of their boss all day, is being regulated to a degree which gives you very little room to schedule your day, virtually dictates your sleeping patterns, penalizes you for taking naps or otherwise attempting to make the most efficient use of your time, and provides the government with an instantly accessible record about where you have been, 24/7, and gives them unlimited access to review your HOS compliance and issue fines at will. WHERE DO I SIGN UP?
Where Do We Go From Here?
For the liberty minded professional driver, the situation looks bleak. I doubt very highly that the FMCSA is ever going to change the HOS regulations to match more humane and productive provisions in places like Canada or New Zealand, where a guy can drive 13 hours a day and, at least in Canada, has a bit more flexibility with shifting hours around. And I also doubt very highly that the FMCSA or any state level DOT is going to give up on the rolling cash cows that are ELDs. If you are an owner operator and you have a truck with a model year older than 2000, you are exempt from the ELD mandate, but that doesn’t help with the stupid HOS regs, and many large carriers won’t take on owner operators who choose to run older equipment. (And don’t get me started on the EPA rules and how they have completely screwed up the engine marketplace, such that Caterpillar quit making on-highway diesel engines. Another article entirely …. ) Trucking is an ultra-competitive marketplace for rates, and the little guy has an enormous hill to climb in competing against legacy carriers, who benefit both from economics of scale, and being large enough to enjoy the privileges of regulatory capture. Hell, some of these arseholes, through cronyist organizations like The American Trucking Association, go right along with all of these stupid laws because they know they can comply with them. The Provinces of Ontario and Quebec instituted mandatory truck speed limiters, restricting trucks to 105km/h (65mph) by law, even for carriers not based there. These rules were not proposed by the Ontario Ministry of Transport, or it’s analogs in Quebec; they were proposed by mega-carriers like Challenger Motor Freight, and their crony mouthpieces in the Ontario Trucking Association.
So what’s a guy to do? As reported above, many older drivers who were already close to retirement are just going to pack it in. Some, like myself, are young enough to move into other fields of pursuit, and some, perhaps, already have training or qualifications in other fields. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the business, and the demographics of people who it typically draws from, this is not the case for the majority of people behind the wheel. What are they going to do? What was once considered a free-wheeling, adventurous, decent paying gig, looks more and more like a rolling prison from which many may not escape.
What are your thoughts on red Plymouth Valiants?
He has no problems with red Valiants. It’s Dennis Weaver he can’t abide.
I’m ashamed to admit that I’ve not seen that film.
Added to the list!
Also, I prefer this muscle car, don’t you?
Fantastic (though depressing) article. Would be nice if Trump issued an EO suspending or reversing these rules. That’s a solid win for a ton of people. Then maybe Congress could go about crafting legislation abridging the authority under which these jackasses regulate. A man can dream.
As for automation: truckers are often offloaders, too. One wonders how this gets automated, or if truckers will just end up cooling their heels between deliveries. Seems like it sucks a whole lot of efficiency out of the equation.
There are many industries which trucking services in which there will be no robot trucks. Anything out in the bush like logging, oil field work, hauling heavy equipment or road building; retail LTL delivery, fuel station delivery, and on and on.
The linehaul guys who do nothing but move trailers which are loaded and unloaded by the customers staff at point a and b? Shipping containers? Those guys are the first to go.
The Secretary of Transportion is one of the weak links in the cabinet, but there is hope:
https://www.rtscarrierservices.com/articles/how-trucking-regulations-could-change-under-trump
Hey, way to make us into third class citizens, you control freaks.
Fuck Off, Slavers.
Hair testing for drivers?
In my experience, this would eliminate GT 70% of them.
Dude, the stories one of my dreadlocks would tell.
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YOU TEASE! Of course we want moar! Please submit when you are ready. Looks like a good little series we can post!
Oh, and as a former logistics guy, and lawyer – I must say that this was top notch stuff. *applause*
Thanks, Swiss! I look forward to
bringing more grain to the Vortexgetting some more dusty ideas out of my head. I’m glad you would have me.This was fascinating, good work. Just another example of how do-gooder, needless regulation makes everyone’s lives worse. By reducing the number of drivers and increasing delivery times, it also drives up costs of the products and commodities that make modern civilization work.
Feature, not bug.
/prog
Great article. Some of the stuff ive read about self driving fleets involves several autonomous vehicles with a supervisory pilot in one of the cabs. Generally for the open road – hub to hub – vs local/city delivery.
I touched on some of the issues in this article at this podcast here.
Beware, my voice can be a bit ….. grating.
Thanks for the article. This is a critical topic and receives little attention – I have heard more trucking regulation/HOS discussion among my clients in the past two years than my entire career.
What’s your plan now you’re out of the trucking biz?
Pfft. Lobbyist of course.
Now that I am no longer subject to DOT drug screens.
In all seriousness, I have no idea. I’ve done a bit of construction/renovation work in the past, and my BIL and FIL are engineers/contractors of sorts, so I think I might just do renovations and build things, for now.
*Edit Fairy saves the day by removing potential TMI by special request*
Off topic Ken style rant.
There’s some good lessons in the NFL’s constant issues. Particularly, it emphasizes the importance of due process. Or simply having an actual process beyond chasing your own tail. The powers that be in the NFL’s league office, particularly Fuhrer Goodell, arrogantly created a system that left them with authority to do just about whatever they pleased in terms of discipline for on and off the field issues. This started almost as soon as Goodell took over when the smug prick got his face plastered on Time with the title of “The Sheriff.” Goodell wanted to play little tinpot dictator in response to some negative headlines. He wanted to put his stamp on the league with Tagliabue gone. And slowly but surely, it blew up in his face as it has with authoritarians throughout history.
I’ve been beating this horse for a very, very long time. As a Steelers fan, I was defending Chris Henry of all people when he was being made the poster boy for this ad hoc, reactionary form of justice. There has never been anything approaching rhyme or reason to NFL punishments under Goodell besides their drug policies. Anyone and their mother can disagree with how they punish marijuana violations, but there is a clear line and set of procedures followed. Some people, arrogant fucks like Goodell, don’t realize that this actually protects their asses. It’s similar to the quote passed around here from time to time about how people in their official duties doing things that they know are wrong, but being perceived as good men because they’re just doing their duty. Well, Goodell wanted the power and didn’t realize it came with responsibility he couldn’t handle. Christ, the asshole even refuses to use his own past decisions as an actual precedent for future ones. He doesn’t even want a process.
The NFL’s PR nightmares aren’t the result of social media or the league’s popularity. They simply made exasperated the inevitable. They aren’t the result of its players being remarkably different from those in other sports. They’re the failures of smug, stupid leadership in the league office who made themselves into easy targets for any smarmy little shit in the media or on Twitter. That’s why other leagues don’t have these major issues on a weekly basis. The Ray Rice tape was simply the dam breaking, and Goodell made some noise about distancing himself from the decisions somewhat by falling back on experts who would develop a system of punishment for domestic violence (DUI’s are another example). Yet, he then actually ignored those guidelines completely over the next few seasons until he decided to throw the book at Elliot while laughably claiming to be following procedure (in reality, he most likely just wanted to use it to once again reaffirm his power through the courts).
The NFL owners could cite ratings and increasing revenue to justify this train wreck. They could laugh behind closed doors how they were making fools out of the NFLPA and getting themselves bargaining chips. But the reality is, they were shortsighted cunts who were setting themselves up for a fall. People were growing tired of the constant controversies over discipline. They were getting tired of laughably contradictory positions regarding player safety and the league’s inability to enforce even its on field rules. And then you get dumber shit like anthem protests.
So this week, ESPN and its ilk is doing its best to paint the Bengals-Steelers game as what’s really ailing the NFL. As if people are actually tuning out because of too many ugly hits (rather than, say, anthem protests).
“So this week, ESPN and its ilk is doing its best to paint the Bengals-Steelers game as what’s really ailing the NFL. As if people are actually tuning out because of too many ugly hits (rather than, say, anthem protests).”
Yep. ESPN is desperately trying to paint everything but the anthem protests as the reason.
I could be wrong but my sense is that Mr. Goodell might find his luck change very suddenly if there is a market transaction for an NFL team. What happens when owners realize they may suddenly have an asset that is worth a lot less than they thought?
They simply made exasperated the inevitable.
I love this sentence.
The NFL owners could cite ratings and increasing revenue to justify this train wreck.
They could, if ratings and revenue weren’t crashing.
The NFL is also damaging it product – the games and telecasts. I’ve seen fewer committee meetings during all-night state budgeting sessions – it seems like every play requires that the refs all get together and talk about it. Its made even worse by the constant, incessant, inane use of instant replay.
You can close the book on Al Franken, Senator – the number of Dems demanding his resignation is now 10 and his office told the media that he’ll be making an announcement tomorrow.
The Witch Hunt rolls on.
Give his Dem pals a big middle finger by announcing he is joining the Republican Party forthwith and will caucus with them for the remainder of his term? Will mentor new Sen. Moore and be his best buddy.
Mother fucker…
That’s what I said, so everyone gets Fucked by these stupid Regs
I was going to blame them, regardless.
My late brother was an OTR driver, and one of my brothers-in-law still is. I have spent many holiday dinners hearing about these issues. It’s *always* disheartening and maddening.
Thanks for the article, Gordilocks. I was due for an update.
My pleasure.
By all means, forward this along to them. I’m sure they will find some places of agreement, and enjoy the various links embedded in the screed.
If her family ever associated her with this site, they’d have kittens.
I wonder how this is going to factor in:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/california-bill-to-banish-gasoline-cars-by-2040-is-in-the-works
I see electric delivery trucks at the grocery store already. Mostly, bakery and Frito Lay deliveries. But chips and bread don’t weigh very much….
I have only seen two electric vehicles. One tesla and one mercedes. Both were owned by overly wealthy assholes.
I have seen hybrid busses and delivery vehicles which at least have to stop so often that they can benefit to some extent from the tech.
An all-electric truck still sounds like most of its energy will be spent hauling its own batteries around.
They’re flogging hybrids now. Uglier than sin, but neat technology.
Hydrogen? I didn’t know any fuel-cell vehicles were on the road.
I got contacted to invest in Nikola, but the minimum was a little too high for me.
I might reconsider if the Dems come back into power.
Makes no sense to me that we don’t have more LNG vehicles – for buses or fleet vehicles. If you spend any time in s Korea it’s very surprising to see 2 gas stations next to each other – gas and LNG – and at least 1/2 the taxis there and an increasing number of private cars are built for it.
That is one I find surprising as well. The anti- CO2 people should be all for it if they had any principles. I still say the energy future is natural gas and nuclear until that’s replaced by high capacity batteries and dare I hope fusion.
I see Teslas all the time but we don’t experience the phenomenon known as “winter” in these parts.
I’ve seen a couple of natural gas and propane trucks in my neck of the woods. Rare, but they’re out there.
All of our garbage trucks are natural gas.
There’s a methane collection and processing facility at the landfill, so they just fill up there.
The local buses are nat gas to.
Makes sense: you’ve got the maintenance and fueling infrastructure and economies of scale to make it work. 50 city buses all fueled by natural gas, with your repair bays and trained mechanics.
This especially makes sense because the dump is the source of the methane. The garbage trucks essentially run on garbage.
There are similar complex rules for commercial pilots, part 135, part 121, etc.
http://www.austincollins.com/2012aveg2.pdf
The Aviation industry seems to handle it by slightly oversupplying pilots, dead heading, and occasionally forcing a plane to sit on the ground until the next crew can get there. Now even the smallest charter plane costs $300-400/hour of operation, and the demand for pilots to just earn time in their log books so high that newly minted pilots will deadhead for free.
In the technology sector would there be a market for “pick up drivers” who you can contract to extend a shift? Then they look for another shift back, or deadhead if the majority traffic goes only one way.
Would it be better for drivers to have a fixed run that can be done 90% of the time, rather than often having 2+ hours of dead time. (12% of the day). ie we are scheduling and pushing for 100% availability and then causing 12% dead time… where looking for 90% availability and having no dead time would be a net gain.
The problem is that the dead time takes away from our daily available driving time. Sure, we can sit around and not get paid, but now your product is sitting at a truck stop somewhere and getting to market late. The inefficiencies already present in the loading/unloading/delay times within the transport sector are legion, and now there will be less ways for the driver to correct for that.
As a regulator with a safety itch (the supposed reason for the rules, not featherbedding) would the desired system be absolute compliance with no official sanction for deviation, or a push system which desires compliance, punishes wanton disobedience, but allows you to buy indulgences?
Like the scheme for overweight trucks. You get pre-approval for going over the 40ton limit.. with an escalating $$/ton over the limit, and mitigation systems like the multi axle load spreading trailers. but going over the limit without the permit is a much higher fine.
So one could have a system where the dispatcher sees that a driver is going to hit a limit, and requests an overtime permit with a sliding scale for 1 hour over… perhaps you can get 2 hours over.. for 10X as much cost.. and then have to hit a longer rest period to match. Then a driver that goes over without the overtime permit is fined at the much higher rate.
Part of the issue is that the current system is based on setting the fines on the “well we only catch you one out of ten times you do it, so we will put the fine at 10X what the real risk/cost is” So on average it works out… with electronic logs you get to set each overtime event at the 1X risk costs, since you trigger it every time.
You’re thinking too logically for a government official. Hit yourself in the head with a brick a few times and try again.
“As a regulator with a safety itch (the supposed reason for the rules, not featherbedding)”
So you’re already leaving the realm of reality.
Look! A unicorn!
“Assume a can opener”
It was worth the wait, G!
Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
*crosses trucker off list of dream jobs*
WE CAN STILL GIVE OURSELVES CB HANDLES, TUNDRA.
They all call me Red Lightning, y’all.
I’ll be Snowman, of course!
Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got ourselves… *dons sunglasses* a convoy!
Red Lightning, this is Fondue Pot, come in y’all!
I’ve only crossed it off for America.
I’m going to keep my CDL current and continue to pay attention to the business. If/when I ever move back to Canada, and as long as Canada doesn’t follow Uncle Sam’s lead with the mandatory tracking devices, I might hit the road again. Or if my wife ever agrees to move to New Zealand with me … I loved it there.
I wish I spoke/read spanish. I imagine that trucking somewhere like Chile would feel like the old days here; one of these days I’ll go find out.
I wish I spoke/read spanish. I imagine that trucking somewhere like Chile would feel like the old days here; one of these days I’ll go find out.
Yeah, I saw that movie, no thanks.
Thought you were gonna post this.
And then I saw that in a way, you did.
Where’s your sense of adventure, monsieur?
So the NAFTA rules allowing Canadian and Mexican truckers on American highways is essentially meaningless as the HOS rules discourage the practice? Sounds like American truckers get the benefit driving in Canada though, but I’m sure there’s other ways to screw them.
It’s not meaningless; it just means that any trucks coming into the US must have an ELD, and the drivers must abide Uncle Sam’s diktat.
I thought he meant NAFTA was useless in the sense that “why bother letting Mexican and Canadian trucks come in, if they are bound by stupid, more restrictive rules…where is the ‘free trade’ part?”
Bastiat’s, Inc. have a negative railroad on special this month if you’re interested.
Maybe that was the woosh sound I heard going overhead.
Where my mind was: When NAFTA was enacted, people were thinking Canadian trucks driving into Mexico and vice versa. I know there were a few “people” who complained that the foreigners would be using our roads “practically for free” – in any event all the additional rules since then seem to make it moot now.
Call me Jugs.
Korean Thunder
*crosses trucker off list of dream jobs*
Right? I always figured if it all goes to shit I could learn to drive a truck. I guess I’ll just have to learn to cook meth.
Hah! I knew this was coming. A guy I’ve never heard of who claims to be a conservative writer has written this at WaPo: Fellow conservatives, it’s time to call on Clarence Thomas to resign.
And replace him with Roy Moore?
Bounce Roberts, Kennedy and the demilich RBG first.
Tsk. That’s the idiocy of calling on a judge to resign; they were specifically created to make their position virtually immune to public opinion after they’re appointed. It doesn’t matter if 90% of the people hate any judge, until they croak or decide they’re done, they aren’t going anywhere. RBG will die in her seat before she lets someone like Trump pick her successor.
I’ve never been able to figure out why she didn’t want Obama to pick her successor. I’ll be surprised if she makes it three more years, much less seven.
Depends on how quickly Trump can find her phylactery.
For the millenials in the room, a phylactery is like an old person’s word for a horcrux.
*applauds loudly*
“…lich, eh? would explain quite a bit, actually”
Maybe because she secretly hates Obama and his deliberate abuse of the IRS to silence political opposition. Not to mention how much he’s abused the 4A. She’s actually pretty good on the 4A.
I know lots of conservative freelance writers in Brooklyn.
Yea…conveniently, right after you realized Bill and Hillary would never occupy the White House again.
And you think that this…supporters your argument that Hill was a credible accuser?
Yesterday, I tried to watch a video of John Oliver confronting Hoffman in some interview. The little twit couldn’t even do that one right against an idiot like Hoffman. He actually stated at one point that he believes accusers (not just those targeting Hoffman) because there’s nothing to be gained by make false accusations.
This is a guy claiming to be conservative whose argument basically boils down to patriarchy.
Nothing to be gained by making false accusations. Nothing at all, except settlement money.
There’s the satisfaction of collecting a pelt and antlers to hang on your wall.
Jay Kaganoff. Sounds like a joke name, like Biggus Dickus.
Did a quick google search on the author; he claims to have written for the National Review, yet curiously enough this is the only article I can find that he has ever written WP is so lazy they can’t even get half-way convincing faux right-wing lapdogs.
Which is also why you’re calling on Al Franken, Joe Biden, etc to resign, right? No? Just the now politically irrelevant Bill? How brave and noble.
So you’re saying that a freelance writer living in Brooklyn ISN’T a contributor to NR or Commentary? I’ll be damned.
Maybe he contributed to the comment section?
Bobarian – Conservaterian-Libertine Contributor to Reason Magazine!
One accuser who had several inconsistencies in her story- that sounds like the overreach of the #metoo movement that people have been warning about
The prog fetish for “ROADZZZZ to Damascus” conversion stories (I was a libertrian, but then my transgender son’s birth control wasn’t covered by insurance!) further demonstrates that is just religion for people who claim to be atheists. Religous fanatics love reading about how heathens have opened their eyes to the One True Light.
“Greetings fellow Republicans. Shall we speak about such things as States’ Rights and Emancipating the Negro?”
“Fellow conservatives”, hah! These articles remind me of the Hitler in England Python sketch.
*paging Badolf Hilter, Mr. Badolph Hilter of Minehead, report to the red courtesy phone, please*
Oh, no no, you’ve got the wrong map there – this is Stalingrad!
For a short while I used the handle Ron Vibbentrop at TOS.
Hey Gordilocks,
Are you at all familiar with the trucking issues going on right now at the Port of Los Angeles/Long Beach?
Not really. I’ve got a buddy (also a former trucker) who lives in LA, and he mentioned something about some new set-up going in and out of Long Beach.
I’ll check it out if you can find me some lynx.
I’ll go digging for links at lunch.
Basically, it sounds like a giant shakedown under the guise of “curbing pollution”.
Quick story –
2009, my last year on the ice, where I got that photo of me and the Pete I drove posted with the article.
The company I had previously worked for up in Yellowknife was bought and merged with a larger corporate type outfit from Edmonton, who shall remain nameless.
Management in Edmonton sends 20 of these new Mack Pentagons up to run the ice, and they are equipped with an exhaust burner type system, that reburns exhaust in order to remove particulate matter. Said 20 trucks are doing the same run I am, hauling diesel fuel in Super B Train tankers from YK up to the Diavik Diamond mine. Same weight, same distance, same run times.
When those useless pieces of shit weren’t near constantly freezing up and having to be towed back to YK, they were averaging between 800 and 1100 liters of fuel consumed per trip.
Me and my 93 Pete, equipped with 3406B mechanically driven Caterpillar, with no exhaust cleaning system?
580 to 625 liters per trip.
The Slavers at The EPA can fuck right off.
a giant shakedown under the guise of “curbing pollution”.
A good description of Elon Musk?
Or the entire California economy?
It’s the CARB. They instituted PM and NOX limits on trucks in and out of the port which all but required guys to turn their fleet over every couple of years and very few miles/idle hours on the motors. And these are guys used to buying a truck and running it for 15 or more years in that type of application.
Side note A: trucks that are domiciled in Mexico are exempt from the rule so you have trucks literally driving to LB from Mexico every day with team drivers to work the ports because it’s cheaper than it is for CA fleets to work it.
Side note B: CNG trucks meet the requirement, so you have some forward-thinking fleet operators that converted trucks to CNG when the rules were first implemented 7-8 years ago. They’re still running trucks that are that age while guys driving diesels have turned their fleet over twice in that span. The downside to that is installing a quick-fill station that accommodates their fleet size. Those are expensive and I don’t know if the state is subsidizing them anymore. I know they did in the past and it pushed the price to operate down to less than half what it cost to run diesels.
And all that equipment turnover in the worst paying sector of the trucking business!
Hauling cans has always, and will always, pay shit. Those guys are the least capable of absorbing all of that extra cost.
You met your wife at Burning Man? Orgy tent right?
Orgy truck.
Maybe I’m just weird, but the thought of a hipster orgy in the middle of a desert where people haven’t bathed for several days is rather repugnant.
You’re not alone in that.
Don’t knock it til you try it.
One of my good friends goes every year, and she seems to like it:
[Link removed after point was proven]
Would. With her consent, obviously.
But not when she probably smells like microwaved tuna sitting out in the sun for a few days down there.
The one with no pants seems like the type that would like it *wink* *wink*
Wait- what were we talking about again?
Yes. Went to HS and college with her. Was briefly my girlfriend, but has issues with monogamy, which is a dealbreaker for me.
It’s taking a visible toll on her husband, which is sad. He claims to be cool with it, but clearly isn’t.
Ahhh- now the no pants makes sense
Oh god, your friend likes Robot Heart? Those pukes peddle the slowest, most boring ass techno I’ve ever heard.
Yeeesh.
No idea. I just assume they were on their way to (or from) the orgy.
I recognized the little Robot Heart logo above them.
Not disheveled enough to be coming from.
Nothing gets by Q!
Not quite.
I did set my tent up right next to hers at the group we were camped with. She only slept in hers once.
I really ought to set up an imgur account and get some of my old photos up. Most of my trucking photo albums were on Facecrack, but that place is fucked and I permanently deleted my account some time ago.
I’m in the logistics business and this article is great. And yet it only scratches the surface – the lobbying efforts to fuck over owner-operators and small trucking companies are driven by the larger carriers in order to increase rates and the friggin’ teamsters.
The teamsters will get their comeuppance though – the increased retirement rates are going to bankrupt their pension funds and it will only get accelerated with autonomous trucks.
The HOS rules are so fucked up only a person who has no idea of how ANYTHING works could come up with it. Years ago the Illinois Toll Road set punitive rates on tolls during rush hours, but the HOS changes at the federal level have completely fucked over the idea of keeping trucks out of rush hour traffic. But I swear the toll road knew the HOS rules were going to change and did it as a stealth toll increase.
This guy gets it.
Nice read. Thanks for the article.
Salud!
In my previous incarnation as an IndyCar mechanic, it was common practice to finish car prep, load the truck, and send it from Indianapolis to someplace like Long Beach or Portland nonstop, where we would be waiting, fresh from the airport, to unload and set up. Most teams had two drivers, but some did not. Even with two guys, I don’t see how you could do it under that ten continuous hours of “rest” rule.
If you want to see professionals on amphetamines, go to a hospital.
^^Yes. My sister is a pulmonologist, but she started her residency as a surgeon (she quit and changed to pulmonology after 1 year). She was *averaging* 110 hours of work per week. Nearing the end of their 48 hour shifts, surgeons would sometimes fall asleep standing up with their hands in a patient and have to be nudged awake by a nurse.
She also said that upward of 75% of surgeons are high-functioning alcoholics. Immediately after work, instead of going to bed (like a sane person would do) they would go to the bar down the street and proceed to down ~2 pitchers *each*. Have a good operation!
Slightly related – I have some doctor friends I know through the Burner/Psytrance community … the most MDMA I’ve ever seen snorted by any human was by one of them. Like, heroic dose levels that one would think you couldn’t possibly live through.
Yep. I have a friend who’s a surgeon at U Chicago, and… my god.
When she comes into town, she’s not allowed to stay at our house anymore.
I read an article on pre-SJW Cracked.com about drug abuse among nurses. It’s pretty common, apparently. They said that some painkiller drugs come in individual vials from which you draw the dose that the patient needs, but it’s rarely necessary to use the entire vial. They’re supposed to dump it out in a special container while a nursing supervisor watches, but in practice, it never really happens that way because nursing supervisors are too damn busy.
So the nurses have plenty of drugs and all the clean syringes they’d ever need.
Yes. Doctors, nurses and pharmacists are probably the biggest junkies on the planet.
Wasn’t that the entire plot of Nurse Jackie (which I’ve never seen)?
In my previous incarnation as an IndyCar mechanic,
You need to write an article on your experience in IndyCar! I’d be fascinated to hear your perspective!
/guy who spent many a May afternoon in the IMS infield
Seconded! COME ON PEOPLE, WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THIS YOU HAVE TO OFFER!!!
smdh
Good read.
These kinds of stories need to be told. There are tons of regulations that apply to the innerworkings of every industry, and the average person doesn’t know that they exist because they don’t work in those industries. Yet, these regulations make their products more expensive.
I get a lot of “deer in the headlights” looks when I try to tell my “progressive” family members that the healthcare industry is not in fact unregulated; that it is actually the most heavily regulated industry in the country (with the possible exception of finance). None of them work in the healthcare industry, so they don’t know about all the rules that exist. They just believe the Lefty politicians who insist that it’s “unregulated chaos” and the government has to swoop in and save the day.
it is actually the most heavily regulated industry in the country (with the possible exception of finance)
This is true.
I in particular, and the general yokeltarian/Instapundit type libertarians often get sneered at by the Reason/CATO crowd because we don’t reflexively chant “both sides are equally bad!!!”, but the reason I can’t make that chant as often is that both sides are not equally bad.
When I talk Drug War with right wingers, they acknowledge prohibition creates a black market. They acknowledge the reality that marijuana is, at worst, as harmful as alcohol. They just think that the dangers, the harms, the costs of legalized drugs would be worse than the current situation. They know that drugs are illegal because of federal law. They live in the real world, the world of “there are no solutions, only tradeoffs”. I can disagree with them on which tradeoffs are more beneficial, on the whole, but we speak the same language.
When I talk healthcare with progs, they are not only completely immune to the concept of economic reality, they don’t know basic facts about the topic. They believe healthcare is unregulated, that Medicare and Medicaid budgets are being cut, that hospitals routinely turn away ER patients, that the drug companies charge 10,000 a dose for no other reason than the EVULLZZZZZ. They’re completely disconnected from reality.
Is there any escape for the long haul guys into local trucking, or is that field just as fucked up?
Also, OT: after Richard’s awesome bitcoin article, is there still an interest in peeking under the cryptocurrency hood? I have an article (likely 2 or 3 articles once I’m finished) outlined that walks through the basic computer science of blockchain, including commentary on how it all works together and how it can be applied to other tasks. However, I don’t want to bore people if they’re over it.
Yes – I’m particularly interested in applications of blockchain.
This. The idea probably works better in other areas that currencies.
I’d be interested, especially in how blockchain technology can be applied elsewhere.
There are plenty of alternate applications, especially when combined with things such as actor oriented programming and capability modelled security. After trshmnstr’s articles, I may write something up that explores whatcan be done with blockchains when combined with other tech, but I’ll wait until everyone has a more solid understanding of what blockchains are first.
There’s a lot of blockchain usage in the shipping industry – easy, affordable and near fool-proof for container tracking, etc. Obviously doesn’t stop some jackhole from cutting a seal – but in principle pretty secure and improves accuracy – along with GPS and mag-strips (name escapes me – for scanning, etc).
Yes, please.
I only know one local trucker so I can’t say how fucked up it is regulation-wise, but he has to work his ass off to keep customers because the competition is increasing. So he’ll do extras like unload the truck that he didn’t do before – and now he’s complaining about back troubles, etc.
I am one who would not be bored by such articles.
Oh come on… YES THERE IS! Please do – and in whatever length and format you want.
smh
Half of us are IT people and would find it interesting. If you can de-jargon it sufficiently enough for non IT people to grok, I assume most of the rest would find it interesting as well.
Yes, us retar….um, lay IT folk would LOVE an explanation.
Hey now, I said de-jargon, not dumb down. Blockchains aren’t particularly hard to grasp, they’re just weird. I’m sure trshmnstr will write a perfectly cromulant article, I just know that programmers have a tendency to use jargon that we barely understand, and it can be hard to parse an article when you have to look up every third word.
I’m going back to the basics. I want the reader to understand not only the “how”, but also the “why”. Getting to that point has been a bit of a balancing act so far.
Well us retards demand something we can read!!1!1!!1!
We retards.
Sheesh.
Y’all are making me feel a lot better. After reading the other article twice, carefully, I thought “God, I’m dumb”. I need more explanation.
What you’re expecting is a painless induction into the Crypto Cult.
We’re not allowed to do hazing now, so we have to try and keep out the riff-raff using bullshit and cant.
*clears throat*
Crypto Cult? They had a name back in the day.
Retar…. that’s Me! where do I sign up?
Local trucking has two issues which would prevent mass absorption of large numbers of long haul guys –
A) Local trucking typically has only a fraction of the driver turnover of long haul. Being home every day is desireable, and produces more candidates.
B) Because of the desireability and extra candidates, local trucking usually pays less. Usually way less. (Unless you’re doing something niche or industry specific.)
I ran local when I first started as a kid, kind of part of the apprenticeship, and then for about a year when I came home from NZ in 2004, and then again in 2009-2010 when I was trying to look after my disabled mother, as well as my grandfather, who was suffering from dementia. Let me tell you, working 2 jobs and 80+ hours a week while trying to provide care for disabled family is fucking impossible.
My uncle drove for the same company for 20+ years so he could work up to getting the ‘day trip’ and be home every night. Hot dogs from KC to Marshall Mn. and juice concentrate going the other way. Contracted for Schwan’s. But it was OTR to TX and/or CA for 20 years before that.
Could you discuss other cryptocurrencies besides bitcoin? I heard that there is ‘dash’ which people in Zimbabwe are using
Yup! I have a section planned specifically for other cryptocurrencies and other uses of block chain.
sweet
‘Dash’ – presumably that one’s endorsed by Usain Bolt.
*speedily narrows gaze*
Also, trshmnstr – fuck yeah, more info on the cryptocurrencies.
Anything to further expand people’s knowledge of how to further take advantage of black markets and subvert the state. Fuckin eh.
You’re a lawyer too, right?
I’d love some legal insight into cryptocurrency as well….
That would be fascinating to research! I’ll put it on my list of articles to write.
Thank you in advance for enacting my labor!
Clearly I need to work less and write more. I’m actually practicing in that space…
PieintheSky just had to post that Guardian derp about the Neolithic period and trigger my Gell-Mann response.
C’mon TItor, a world before soap, tools, agriculture, industry and medicine was utopia. UTOPIA.
When we could GAMBOL across the plains, free of the tyranny of the city-state.
Just for fun I will tell this again: I am just a kid watching Johnny Carson just before bed. Carson has this Chinese Commie on as a guest and they start discussing the differences in our countries, philosophies outlook etc. The Chinaman earnestly and carefully explained that the Chinese people feared our system. They feared Liberty. “Yes, you are free. Free to starve!”
I must have been about ten but sitting there with a full stomach and being regularly chided at supper with “You eat what you have on your plate. Children in China are starving!” by my mother even I could see the absurdity in what the useful idiot was saying.
The derp is more academic to me than anything else. The fact that the Guardian thinks they can pull this horseshit pimping their narrative while sourcing everything to other Guardian writers with their heads up their asses rather than any academic sources, and at the same time pretending that their fetishized view of the Bushmen is somehow representative of overall Neolithic hunter gatherer society is pretty solid evidence that Guardian writers are either retarded or think their audience is retarded (I’m guessing both). Fuck me, there’s been numerous recent archaeological digs that have been completely redefining what we think we know about the Neolithic period and this asshats are acting like they have all the answers.
They make an awful lot of claims about things that no one can possibly know and we are just supposed to swallow it.
The picture they try to paint is based on some ideal they dreamed up. Reality is that in an undeveloped environment one person cant produce enough with their own hands to thrive and so yoking their fellow man was the order of the day. Slavery was common and can be seen in every primitive society that I am aware of, even today. Savagery almost always involved cannibalism to some degree. War, murder, rape, theft, genocide, sadism…all of that was at least as common as it is today, some more so.
What they are presenting there is pure fiction.
There’s no end to the volume of “Noble Savage” mythology they can concoct.
The current working theory as to why Stockholm Syndrome is a thing is because it was an adaptive measure, primarily for women, when they were violently abducted by tribal rivals and then used for sex. But I’m to believe that the Bushmen, an isolated hunter gatherer society (that immediately loses when it comes in contact with other, settled societies, of course) is representative of the entire history of the Neolithic period.
Any interest in a Chicago meet-up later this month? I just wired funds for the new pied-a-terra and plan to spend the the second half of December and “lots” of additional time there in the coming year.
I asked people in the Chicago area if they were planning to go see Dave Smith comedy on December 8th yesterday and all the responses were a mixture of “go fuck yourself” and “here’s some girly pics”. It was par for the course
Nobody offered you Mexican ass sex and heroin? Sad!
Yeah, not even any illicit drug offers. Makes me wonder if anyone even libertarians here, bro
Not proper libertarians, obviously.
*narrows gaze*
Didn’t reply because we’re not going.
I’m messing around. Besides, if I was upset I’d just take it out on my orphans
Well, if there are free tickets, free drinks, free Uber to and from (and you know where we live!) and orphans to abuse…. 😉
Here are some girly pics.
https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/tumblr_nkxb87aisu1tdvxnao1_500.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600
https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/887563-30.jpg?quality=94&strip=info&w=600
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2c/c9/99/2cc9996b1077ad087e6ddf834b29fc4f.jpg
Awwww- I love you, Q
Back at ya.
Dang.
That’s just about perfect.
Yep! I bet OMWC would be interested, too.
E me at sp@ this domain.
Getting RAHeinlein and OMWC into the same room would be fascinating.
I’d shut up and listen, and possibly ask questions if I’m allowed.
Allowed? What is this “allowed” you mention? Are we not all rude, interrupting libertarians?
While I would personally find it amusing to interrupt high level discourse with the occasional fart joke, I fear I might wear out my welcome.
How would this be different than a normal night with OMWC?
You can evict a guest far easier?
We’ll rack that up to indole.
If you want a good beer place, Swiss is your man. He’s the pillar of the community at his local tap room.
The spouse asked me to inquire about beer options – I’m a cocktail person. We can’t wait to have a getaway place outside the food/drink desert that is our current residence.
I am a cocktail/wine person. I don’t generally drink beer. We’ll get along fine!
Swiss is your guy. He’s the one who tipped me off to Unfiltered Sculpin. Amazing find, especially since it’s a CA brewery with a limited number of products on offer outside of the regional market.
Ta Da! http://www.plankroadtaproom.com/
Thanks for the link – I’m not going to share until next week. My son and husband are moving furniture to the new place this Friday, and I want them to come home…
Leaning against the pillar does not make you the pillar.
Lean?! More like “slump”!
Tap room? I bet you guys call your carholes a ‘garage’. Pssht..suburbs
For those of you following the CA fires, this is the best resource I have found:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0889032,-118.4671156,204m/data=!3m1!1e3
Make sure to look at it in Satellite View.
Those are the houses that are threatened by the Skirball fire. One would assume that they’re going to have private fire protection through their insurance. One would also assume that the LA Times is going to complain about it very soon.
Here is one I use.
This map is pretty accurate:
https://maps.nwcg.gov/sa/#/%3F/34.384/-119.215/12
Really good piece. My only question is: are you so much of a Paccar guy that you couldn’t put a picture of a single Mack in it?
Look upthread to one of my replies to Mr Manhattan.
I do have a soft spot for the old R Models. My Dad drove one when I was a wee lad.
Received an email from Patagonia entitled “The President stole your land” and looked forward to a good read about asset forfeiture or eminent domain abuse, along with teaming up with IJ to stop it. Alas, it was just more hot air ranting about merely changing the designation of still federal land.
Also, if it’s my land, how come people were ticketed by federal thugs during the last fake government shutdown for entering their own land?
“Also, if it’s my land, how come people were ticketed by federal thugs during the last fake government shutdown for entering their own land?”
The local national park has fire roads that are always open. During the shutdown, the NPS made sure to lock the gates shut so the local ATV and hikers would feel the pain of the “shutdown”.
Fuckers should have been swinging from lampposts or impaled on fenceposts for their fuckery during the shutdown.
Exactly. If the kindly feds were just providing a service, then a shutdown should just mean the park isn’t maintained and you enter at your own risk. But remember, government is the things we do together.
^^^^this
Academic accuses Jordan Peterson of pseudo-science, proceeds to reject scientific data and lie throughout article.
Wells is a fucking coward. Peterson has offered to debate him, and Wells ignores the offer.
Wow, what a scumbag. Whatever the fuck “Cultural Criticism” is, it shouldn’t be considered part of the humanities. There is genuine value in getting an education in the humanities whether it’s your focus or not, and, as with any degree program, the key to turning it towards a career lies in large part with ambition, some humility, flexibility, and focus. The reason Gender Studies is less valuable than, say, a Philosophy degree is because you’re missing the technical or more tangible skills learned in hard sciences or in something like a Business degree without gaining any of the intellectual training and rigorous application of genuinely critical thinking that you’d get from a Philosophy path. The Progressive social justice course loads are worse than basket-weaving, because at least with a basket-weaving degree you’d have a marketable skill.
Breaking news: The cause of the SoCal fires has been revealed:
Woah- those tax cuts have really been effective
Clinically.
Insane.
Inane too.
I have a mild hernia. Can anybody verify where Donald Trump was about two weeks ago?
Is it the *BEST* Hernia?
Only a mild hernia?
It was probably Paul Ryan.
I ruled him out earlier, there’s no nausea.
If you click the google maps link I posted above, her house is somewhere in the vicinity.
Poor thing; she has to evacuate to one of her other houses.
Has anyone posted this yet? Well worth a listen if you have the time and patience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_idhCca2XM&t=1500s
Pretty straightforward stuff but it does explain a lot about the behavior we have been seeing. Something he doesnt mention is the connection between people unable to make reality conform to their worldview and their propensity for violence.
Adams has been pretty much on the ball with this for 2 years.
Meanwhile, apparently the fire is also threatening a home and vineyard owned by Rupert Murdoch.
Go on, take a guess as to how people are reacting to that. C’mon. Guess.
Sorrowful sympathy?
Wake me up when millions of Democrats die.
Nah, that only happens after the tax cut goes into effect.
At this point in my cynicism, I just assume the state sets the fires in order to gin up sympathy to up the federal dollars appropriated to California.
From the linked wiki –
I’m calling for a prohibition on links to bureaucrat.wikipedia.org
Who knew truck driving required a masters degree in horology.
That’s pretty egregious claptrap. About the only thing of merit is the claim that Peterson is calling for war within the humanities. To the extent that nobody actually gets bayonetted, I’m all for it. Other than that? Meh.
Contrariwise, there’s the recorded meeting at Laurier, which was borderline slander. I’d hope that in a civilized nation like Canada, that kind of language would justify sending out seconds and choosing weapons.
Whoops, this was meant to be in relationship to 28. The Ira Wells/Jordan Peterson Cage Fight
You don’t choose weapons in Canada, instead you go out to the hockey arena parking lot and beat the shit out of each other.
Somehow it bled into the game.
Having profiled the participants in that meeting at Laurier, I think the most appropriate weapon for the hors-du-combat would be open hands. Lindsay Shepherd came off really well in that whole event.
The smears within the piece are just pathetic. The guy calls Peterson ‘the intellectual center of the alt-right’.
It’s been non-stop hit pieces in the Canadian media on Peterson, ever since the pronoun fight started.
The more noise they make, the more popular Peterson becomes. It’s a wonder they haven’t figured this out yet.
So pathetic that it could have been written at TOS
That simply means “the guys thinks things I, and all the people who think like me, don’t like”.
People will realize, eventually, that while the “alt-right” contains some shitty people, that being accused of being *of* the “alt-right” is simply on a par with “lidderaly, like Hitler”.
If you want the simplest proof of Clinton being incompetent and completely unworthy of any kind of political power, her throwing the alt-right into the center of the political conversation to score cheap points with her base is pretty hard to beat. She legitimized a bunch of weirdos on the internet into some grand conspiracy phenomena that vastly overestimates and amplifies their voice in a way they simply don’t deserve.
There is no alt-right. It’s a fiction conjured up out of thin air by pinkos to try and repair their narrative. Clinton was supposed to win dammit. The only reason she/they lost is because the country is full of secret nazis (who aren’t really nazis) and russian agents.
The so called alt-right amounted to the five guys left running the KKK, neo-nazis who are a few nutters belonging mostly to criminal gangs or in prison, and Richard Spencer with his four lackeys. The whole thing is pathetic. In their minds they have turned that into a vast right-wing conspiracy boogeyman.
Anyone remember over at TOS when I asked…was it ENB?…where all of these nazis were? She said they are everywhere and you can tell them by their secret nazi haircuts. I asked for a photo of one so that I would be able to recognize these monsters if I ran across some.
She sent me a photo of Brad Pitt preparing for his role in the movie FURY.
That was the moment it hit me “Holy shit. It really is a derangement syndrome.”
Well, if the “alt-right” does exist, it’s obviously centered in Hollywood, isn’t it?
I thought she was joking at the time. Now, after hearing some of her ‘thoughts’ on other matters, I think she was serious. And that’s depressing as hell.
I do kind of find it hilarious that a haircut that’s very popular in hipster circles is now proof of secret Nazism.
Tru Dat (SFW)
It’s the same haircut that the Peaky Blinders have! haha
Alt-right’s not KKK or Aryan Brotherhood, those are separate phenomena. Alt-right’s mostly restricted to their various websites like the Radix, the Daily Stormer before it got taken down, and a some people on /pol/.
I think the crossover there is pretty close to triple digits. Anecdote: The only one I have ever known was a flaky KKK guy that tried to suck me into it by texting me a link to the daily stormer.
Probably an FBI informant.
Needless to say, if you don’t know already, don’t have anything to do with the FBI.
Fun detail, he is an electrician and union member and a die-hard democrat.
you have a truck with a model year older than 2000, you are exempt from the ELD mandate
Who paid for that carve-out? What sense does that make from a techno-regulatory standpoint? Those 20th Century trucks are just too dated to install a GPS device in, huh?
Throwing some bones to the notion of ‘too pricey a burden’ for a piece of equipment that has lost most of it’s resale value.
Shocking development – men are stronger than (most) women.
Transgender Weightlifter Scores Medals At World Championships
Finished second in the snatch category.
This whole ‘your genitals don’t determine your gender’ stuff is going to end real fast when a high school girl that identifies as a boy forces her school to allow her to play football. Then she’ll be a crippled girl that identifies as a boy
I love that the article refers to the weightlifter as “he”.
Ahem… the, uh, snatch category???
There’s also a “clean and jerk” category, which I am assured is not a euphemism at all.
Does sound like they get the whole thing the wrong way ’round though.
Dammit, my slow transcription has doomed me to second place.
Dude, we’re both legends in our own lunchtime. Medals for everyone!
I was gonna post my own snark, but Wikipedia stole my thunder.
“The Olympic clean and jerk, with the snatch, is contested in Olympic weightlifting events.”
One way to bring this to a stop is to just say “Sure, your gender is whatever you say it is. Access to our bathrooms, locker rooms, sports teams, etc. is based on sex, which is biological, not gender, which is subjective. If you are biologically male, you use the men’s rooms and play on the men’s teams, regardless of your gender du jour. Any questions?”
BAM/BAF.
Done and done.
And that’s what I don’t get- I thought that was already why we had this segregation, but then a wise gender studies professor told me that’s a heternormative lie.
Exactly. The whole point of segregating sports is because men would dominate women in probably every event and it there wouldn’t be much of a point in female athletes competing at all.
It has nothing to do with what “gender” you “feel” you are, and everything to do with basic biology.
And the whole point of their efforts is to destroy the sports programs so popular in the patriarchy. The same reason they wanted to destroy the Scouts. Anything that teaches the time tested morals and values of the patriarchy like honesty, fair play, striving to be better, teamwork etc must go.
I promise you, that is exactly what they are up to.
At least it’s an admission that teamwork doesn’t matter in socialism. Do as you’re told, and no you aren’t a slave because I said so.
Sex and gender used to be virtually identical. Social norms changed to the point where you could have a gender expression which was not one of the binary norms. So far, so good.
However, that by no means entails tossing sex as the crucial distinction and replacing it with gender. The big stolen base in this whole pathetic mess is the assumption that gender should be the controlling principle, rather than sex. There are a number of reasons why sex is a better basis for making these distinctions, where they need to be/will be made. There are also, I am sure, arguments for saying gender should be the controlling classification. But, this whole issue just got skipped over in the mad proggie/SJW rush to do as much damage as possible.
See that’s the thing. I don’t care if a chick with a dick is at the urinal next to me. Kinky. But if I’m stuck on a desert island with my wife, in two years without supplies she’ll still be a woman. She won’t have to “feel” like one, because she can just look at the parts and confirm that she is, indeed, a woman. The tranny next to me is going to be a dude with a beard and fake tits. And maybe more importantly, absent hormone therapy my impression is that growing your hair long, wearing makeup, and walking around in heels does not reduce your testosterone output, something which contributes to muscle development. So Loretta may very well feel like a woman, but she’s deadlifting 550lbs because she’s actually a fuckin’ dude.
All of which I rant to say that I don’t care if someone wants to be something other than what they were born as, and I’m even willing to go along to a certain extent, but no amount of imagination, polite ignorance of the elephant in the room, or verbal gymnastics can make you actually be something you aren’t.
The proper term is “Chicks with Dicks” and you have to say it in an Australian accent for it to sound right.
I was struggling to come up a CB handle, but now I’m leaning toward “Chick Dicker”.
Ironically the group that most vehemently defends Title IX is the same group working overtime to destroy women’s sports.
See my comment above. It all has the same goal – demoralization. It all makes perfect sense if you keep that in mind.
I got a group of people VERY indignant with me for proposing the elimination of sex-based divisions in athletics. No more men’s or women’s sports – there’s just a swim team, a basketball team, a hockey team, a track team. Teams are open to all: man, woman, pansexual, genderfluid, otherkin, whatever. A triumph of equality!
Why don’t they give up on their heteronormative biases
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/12/05/look-im-a-heterosexual-pa-lawmaker-brings-meeting-to-halt-after-male-colleague-touches-his-arm/?utm_term=.c92a418fdf9c
No homo. A republican representative is stuck in 6th grade. “Stop touching me! Ewwww- are you gay?”
Gay cooties.
I got five bucks on him getting caught sucking cock in a men’s bathroom within ten years.
That is a safe bet. You oughta up that to 100 bucks.
Five bucks American is a hundred bucks Canadian, duh.
Canadian Tire money?
Nobody is taking that bet straight-up. Give some odds.
I’ll lay 10 on another guy sucking his, because in his mind only giving is gay
Why do all these homosexuals keep sucking my cock?
(TW: The Onion is now part of the network formerly known as Gawker)
That popped in my head too.
Seen it about a hundred times and it still makes me laugh.
“Mom, it’s not gay, it’s trade!”
Republican Representative: So, the next witness will be discussing the merits of the SALT exemption
Other Representative: (places hand on Republican Representative’s hand) I believe the witness will be talking about the mortgage deduction
Republican Representative: (yanks hand away) Ewww…why are you touching me?
Other Representative: (stammers) I…just…um…sorry?
Republican Representative: (pointing at other representative) This guy’s gay! Homo!
Witness: Gentleman, please. Can we continue?
Republican Representative: Why are you defending him? Is he your boyfriend? Gay! (points at witness)
I will say this much – I don’t like people other than my family members touching me. Not because I’m a homophobe, but because I’m an antisocial misanthrope. My wife has a friend who is a compulsive hugger and it bugs the living shit out of me when she tries to hug me.
Agreed. But, I don’t call someone gay for touching me- I just tell them they’re weird
Of course not, because you’re not an asshole, or a closet case, or both.
This sounds like trolling to me. At least, that’s how my friends and I troll each other.
Yeah, but it’s funny when it’s with your friends
The fun thing is that now, trolling like that will get you shunned.
Might also earn you a minute or so on the podium talking about how you want to spend more time with your family.
America? Fuck yeah!
Definitely not an activity to be engaged in outside the clique.
Why don’t they believe him and point their ire at Mr. Happy Hands?
While it looks ridiculous (and it is), it does fall under non consensual touching.
My dad, who was over the road from about 1976 to 2000, always had two log books. One was for his own records and was accurate, the other was gimmicked to comply with the regs.
I used a loose-leaf style logbook for years.
And whaddya know, never crashed into anyone or killed anybody. Amazing.
Yeah, in that time my dad had zero major accidents. Hell, one time he drove 2,000 miles unable to use the left side of his body without incident! (He had MS, that’s why he ended up retiring.)
In hope this isn’t implying that I’m about to become part owner of an MLS team.
http://nbc4i.com/2017/12/06/ohio-state-rep-says-1996-law-may-save-the-columbus-crew/
At least it’s a good MLS team?
“Implying” is probably the wrong word. Let’s say “Notifying”; it’s far more accurate.
How’d that work out for the Browns?
And I thought Brewdog was going to be doing a fundraiser for the Crew.
Yeah, supposedly they are but Precourt wants to leave so don’t think that will go anywhere.
Seriously though, fuck Precourt Sports Ventures.
The Irsays left Baltimore in the middle of the night because the state was threatening to take the team over via eminent domain. The next morning, the state finds there’s nothing left to take over.
This is priceless.
Some bint is pushing “micro-affections” to counter “micro-aggressions”. Punchline: at least four of her micro-affections have been called out as micro-aggressions and/or sexual harassment already (smiling at someone, commenting on their dress or hair, hugging, inviting someone out).
As far as robot trucks go, we’ll have autonomous trucks that can handle driving on the highway pretty soon. Especially if they have dedicated lanes. But for replacing drivers on surface streets, no, not even close.
Yeah, on the interstates, hauling only specific cargo, for the time being.
I doubt very highly that we’ll have robot winch-tractors working in the oil field, or robotic logging trucks, or see them in remote-ass places like where I used to spend my winters.
Especially if they have dedicated lanes.
Yeah, that ain’t happening on interstates that have two lanes going each way. IOW, probably 95% of the interstate system.
Fantastic article, truly enlightening. Well done.
Fascinating article. Please write more.
If my grandfather who was a long haul trucker was still alive, I’d show this to him. He retried in the late 80s. He started sometime after he came home from the Second World War, but I don’t remember how long it took him to start driving.
I one story I remember him telling me about driving was that whenever the news media wanted to do a story which involved truckers, the reporters were always very careful about which truckers they talked to. They’d only talk to inarticulate guys that obviously didn’t take care of their trucks, and if a camera was involved, the reporters were always careful to get the poorly maintained truck in frame.
Hence “Duel”.