Friday Afternoon Links

Happy Friday everyone, I am still getting dug out as my work did not do itself while I was onsite with a client this week. Have a safe weekend. Especially if you are in a fire zone or (perhaps as dangerously) experiencing snow and sleet where it does not normally freeze roads.

Megan McCardle posts a qualified defense of “whataboutism”. Which I hate because there is a difference between tu quoque logical fallacies and pointing out that the person you are arguing with is perfectly fine with an entirely analogous situation with different principal actors than the one they are attacking. But much of the, uh, formation of the Glibertarians.com site was based on a perception that TOS had taken to more “principals not principles” reporting.

In a story full of whataboutist attacks and defenses — Roy Moore’s original accuser admits that she added the date and location to the signature in her yearbook, but claims the comment and signature are his. Clarifying my position, I think that Moore almost certainly tried to date women under the age of 18 in his 30s. I think that his blatant disregard for both law and Constitution as a state judge should be disqualifying of anyone voting for him. I think doctored evidence weakens the case that what he did in pursuit of young women (who actually appear to be of legal age to consent at the time, as far as I know) were in any way illegal. I am glad that the attempts to destroy Moore’s candidacy with these allegations have brought to light a culture of harassment in politics and media, and hope that the culture changes.

I am unclear as to why it would be a scandal for Wikileaks to offer information to the Trump campaign. (TW: CNN) I suppose if the campaign believed that the emails were credible AND contained information that should have been confidential to approved government employees, they are probably obliged to report that those are in the wild to appropriate federal authorities. This also seems like whataboutism as both Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin seem to have lied about disclosing the same confidential information

From the not-giving-is-stealing files: Apple to reap $47B windfall in new tax plan. Yet, when you look at the article, that only happens if Apple repatriates money held overseas. In which case the Federal government gets $31.4B in taxes they are not currently able to collect. So the real headline is: Tax Plan nets $31B from Apple.

 

 

Comments

518 responses to “Friday Afternoon Links”

  1. Ownbestenemy

    Lie about being abused decades ago for political gain…..never happens #metoo

  2. When I’m missing something, I should try looking where it’s supposed to be first… oddly that seemed to work of late.

  3. Which one was voted most likely to suck seed?

    http://archive.is/Z1HCt

    All of them from 21 on and 4 could definitely iron out some specific wrinkles IYKWIM.

    1. Related:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_copulatory_vocalizations#In_humans

      I don’t know which I find more amusing, the article itself or the fact that there are people paid to do studies on this.

      1. IntraveneousWoodChipper

        ^^^Wikipedi article points out that men tend to like it when women are loud in bed, like its some kind of revelation. lol

        Tax-payer funded research, no date.

        1. IntraveneousWoodChipper

          That is, Wikipedia links to various actual research articles that follow said argument.

    2. 12, 14, 26, 32

      Some lost out because of Ink. Why do people ruin perfectly good skin like that?

    3. Brett L

      4 looks like a girl I used to date,

    4. Tundra

      22 looks fun.

    5. DEG

      #9 is best.

      1. DEG

        Or maybe I should say:

        #9 รผber alles!

      2. creech

        #9 is Eva: You know who else wore lederhosen?

        1. creech

          And don’t any of you say “Clark Griswold.”

        2. J. Frank Parnell

          Inga from Sweden?

    6. SimonD

      Hmm. I would guess that bunnies the world over are cowering in fear of this entire lineup.

      That being said: 12 and 26 :-).

      1. But Enough About Me

        ” . . . bunnies the world over are cowering in fear of this entire lineup.”

        So much this.

    7. Rasilio

      3, 9, 14, 21, 26, and 45

  4. Ownbestenemy

    CNN has already “corrected” the story on WikiLeaks. Seems they can’t read a simple date on emails.

  5. AlmightyJB

    First beer of the weekend is a Sideswipe Brewing Defaced Imperial Red. Eyeing a Troegs Mad Elf Belgian Dark next.

    1. Brett L

      I wish I could still afford to drink 5 good beers in a night. They ain’t lyin’ when they say having kids makes you poor.

      1. AlmightyJB

        The Mad Elf is excellent. 11%. I’m switching to Miller light after this. I can only do 2 or 3 crafts in a session.

        1. Private Chipperbot

          Same here. Enjoy a few excellent ones, then move on to something lite (or bourbon).

        2. robc

          Most American made belgians aren’t very good, IMO. Except the one in my avatar, of course.

          1. C. Anacreon

            I’m American and I’m pretty good at belching from beer.

      2. Chipwooder

        Nope. When I think back to the life we led before children, it seems like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous compared to now, and I make almost 20 grand more now than I did then.

        1. Lachowsky

          I mad e half as much as I do now before I got married and had a son. I had all the disposable income in the world back then. Now, not so much.

          1. But Enough About Me

            Yep. Children and long-term mortgages are the two greatest obstacles to long-term wealth-building. Want kids, a mortgage, and a retirement where you and your spouse aren’t eating cat food every day?

            Better get a really good income, d00d.

    2. Private Chipperbot

      Short’s Cup O Joe cream stout for me.

    3. Nephilium

      The Mad Elf is great, but it’s a dangerous beer. The 11% can sneak up on you.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Having one 8oz then on to Miller Lite.

    4. egould310

      Iโ€™m 3 Sculpins in on a lazy Friday. Walking back to my place. The fog is rolling in on over the marina/beach. Hanging on the internet with you weirdos. Going to take the guitar into get tuned up later. Good day. Nice gentle beer buzz.

      1. Private Chipperbot

        Ballast Point makes some great beers. Have a Victory at Sea ready to go for tonight as well. Once it starts snowing, I go for stout and winter warmers. I also need something to number my jaw after taking a stick in a game last night. C’mon 5pm eastern!

        1. Number.6

          A traditional drink when I was in the UK was Stingo (Youngs’ Brewery, High alcohol barley ale, nearest replacement, “Youngs Old Nick”) mixed with Ram Rod (Nearest replacement is probably “Young’s Winter Warmer”). Probably came in at about 8.5 ABV,

          Potent enough that you needed the stomach of a concrete elephant. Low enough in hops that even the IPA-haters here wouldn’t mind it.

        2. Tundra

          I switched back to a mask a few years ago. I’m not interested in spitting teeth anymore.

          1. Private Chipperbot

            I wear a full mask, but I take all the ‘stuff’ off it including chin cup and just screw it onto my helmet. You can kinda see it in my avatar. I’m not sure how the guy’s stick got up under it, but he nicked me and I’m swollen. Nothing loose so it’s good. I’ve got some good xrays from the last time I played without a cage – broken nose, orbital, sinus, skull. Fun times…

      2. Excellent. I am on my first Founder’s Breakfast Stout, hanging on the net with you goofs, in all my Blackhawks wear, getting ready fr game time.

  6. Juvenile Bluster

    Office holiday party tonight. Compelled participation. I’d really rather not.

    1. Compulsory participation?

      Shit, that ruins everyone’s fun. The people who don’t want to be there are miserable, and that sours things for those who would.

    2. Wear a sign around your neck that says you’re only there because participation is compelled.

    3. CPRM

      get a shirt printed up, “touching me or talking to me will be reported as sexual harassment”

    4. Number.6

      Ze partying vill continue until morale improves, mein fuhrer!

    5. Rufus the Monocled

      Why I’m glad I’m no longer in the real world reasons 47374757564596.

    6. Gustave Lytton

      Juvenile…Bartleby?

    1. invisible finger

      Burge has been kinda stupid lately with the Moore thing. Someone who has reached the age of consent is not jailbait. I’m fine with ripping the shit out of office seekers, but perpetuating a falsehood isn’t the way to do it especially when there is so much reality he can be harangued for.

      1. whiz

        ^^ This

      2. The Last American Hero

        I disagree about the jailbait comment. In college we used to refer to high school girls (including those over AOC) as jailbait, since the implication was that if you dared break up with them the consent would get revoked ex-post facto and you’d be the one doing jail time. Who are they gonna believe, the innocent high school junior or the 19 year old college guy sleazy enough to be trolling for high school chicks?

  7. Ownbestenemy

    I have game night tonight with I would assume adult friends. Lagavulin 16 and copious amounts of beer should get me through it.

    1. Private Chipperbot

      Make a big production of switching from beer to hard alcohol when someone is taking too much time.

  8. 98% of the time “whataboutism” is calling out naked hypocrisy. The media (and twitter warriors’) clumsy attempts to turn it into some kind of tu quoque thing is retarded. But when it comes to logic, reason and debate, they are retarded so whaddya expect?

    1. The Other Kevin

      I didn’t see it mentioned anywhere that there are some of us who think both sides are equally terrible.

    2. Brett L

      McCardle makes the point that yes, it is hypocrisy. Yes, you should have to answer for why you have changed your mind beyond “its okay for us to do it”. I see it as a philosphy of “I have principals, I hold you to principles”. But things like the tax bill versus Obamacare? Once you change the rules, you don’t get to decide when they change back if you lose power.

      1. Chipwooder

        It’s the same shit the left did repeatedly with the filibuster. When used against Republicans, it was a glorious old tradition that protected the very integrity of the Republic. When used against Democrats, it was a horrible, undemocratic anachronism that impeded the glorious progress the Democratic Party was trying to provide for us.

      2. Microaggressor

        Now that I think about it, that explains the communist helicopter memes. It’s about holding your opponent to their own principles. If your philosophy is premised on the extermination of the perceived oppressor class, then what leg do you have to stand on when somebody declares you the oppressor?

    3. grrizzly

      I think about it as clarifying the rules of the game. If it’s okay for the Lion of the Senate to let a woman drown in his car and a decade later to be considered a serious Presidential candidate who had the gall to challenge the incumbent President from the his own party in the primaries. Then it’s okay for other politicians to be less than perfect in their relations with women. If it is okay for the same Senator to ask the Soviet leadership in Moscow to unseat another incumbent President, then it shouldn’t be a problem for other politicians to meet with this or that Russian official or lobbyist.

      1. Chipwooder

        Don’t forget Teddy and Chris Dodd playing “waitress sandwich”

        1. Number.6

          Ah, where would we be without those playful little elves of the legislature.

    4. B.P.

      Matt Welch was out in the lead with the “whataboutism” crap. It’s just another tool to shut up opposition.

    5. R C Dean

      Technically, tu quoque is a “logical fallacy” because it does not address the merits of the opponent’s argument. Its really a form of ad hominem where you attack the speaker (for hypocrisy) rather than the content of their claims.

      However, in the real world, tu quoque poses a valid question: Why should I accept your argument at all, when you apparently do not? If your revealed preferences are at odds with the stated preferences in your argument, then your argument apparently does not convince even you, so why should I waste time on it?

      Its the Silver Rule* in action: Once someone has done unto you, then you are entitled to do the same unto them according to the Golden Rule. You beat me up for doing X, I’m not giving you a pass for doing X.

      *Most people don’t realize that “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” and “An eye for an eye” are perfectly consistent. An eye for an eye is what happens when someone does unto you first, thus proving that they don’t object to you doing unto them in return.

      1. Agreed on all counts. I just think it’s exceptionally disingenuous (not to mention lazy) for progs to constantly shout “WHUDABOUDISM!” whenever someone addresses their hypocrisy.

    6. wdalasio

      My problem is that charges of “whataboutism” are often use to obfuscate the underlying principles of a debate. If someone is saying they believe X, and you are wrong because of X, but there are 15 examples that clearly show they don’t believe X, then it’s only right and proper to bring up those 15 examples. But, the “whataboutism” charge presumes you’re supposed to ignore those 15 examples and accept their premise of X. That may make sense when a debate is a one-off performance. But, life is not a debate performance. People and arguments have histories that it doesn’t make sense to ignore when considering a claim.

  9. The Sleeper

    My wife brought home that What Happened book written by a ghostwriter HRC. Everything feels feels very tense and cold around the house, like we’re being haunted. Luckily it’s a library book so it’s temporary.
    Unluckily it’s not a very sought after library book so the due date is like February or something absurd. Fuck.

    1. It’s a fantasy comedy book, don’t let it get to you.

      1. The Sleeper

        I don’t hear her laughing, so it must be subtle.
        She’s also a progressive feminist, so maybe she doesn’t get the jokes?

        1. Ugh. I hope she’s good in the sack.

          1. C. Anacreon

            If she’s good in the sack, why is he called “The Sleeper”? Or does that just mean afterwards?

        2. DOOMco

          :/

        3. Number.6

          Time to go buy Margaret Thatcher’s Autobiography

        4. wdalasio

          Sheโ€™s also a progressive feminist, so maybe she doesnโ€™t get the jokes?

          Let me guess: THAT’S NOT FUNNY!!

    2. The Other Kevin

      Instead of charging you late fees, they pay you to keep it.

    3. C. Anacreon

      Every time your wife bring this up something from the book, you can point out what the truth of the incident cited was. That ought to lead to lots of laughs and improve your relationship!

      1. Maybe the wife thought it was a bodice-ripper.

        1. You didn’t read the second part of the title. “What Happened…When He Freed His Throbbing Manhood From Its Denim Prison”.

          1. Number.6

            There you go again … it’s always Trump, Trump, Trump …

    4. invisible finger

      Buy a MAGA hat.

      1. ^^^SO MUCH THIS

      2. I wonder if โ€œMake America Glib Againโ€ hats would Sell if we added them to the website.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Yes

    5. Number.6

      Coincidentally, I’m in Chappaqua at the moment.

      There’s this eerie chanting and unclean glow on the horizon. As I look out across the parking lot, I see figures, moving, not entirely human. Not … wholesome .. with a terrible, eldrich glow. They’ll be here before the doors close!

      They are coming! THEY ARE COMING!

      Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Ftang!

      1. Just don’t sit in any corners…

    6. The Last American Hero

      I’d make some notes in the margins when she isn’t looking. Maybe websites pointing out the corruption or lack of a need to spend time in the Midwest.

    7. westernsloper

      Burn it. Blame it on the dog.

  10. Chipwooder

    The CNN story was torpedoed by WaPo, which noted that the email to Trump Jr. came 12 hours after WikiLeaks made the info public. CNN just loves stepping on rakes.

    In other news….you may remember the op-ed urging Clarence Thomas to resign that WaPo published by self-labeled conservative “Jay Kaganoff”, purportedly a freelancer living in Brooklyn who had written for NRO and Commentary. Someone here, as others around the Internet, noted that nothing by anyone named “Jay Kaganoff” has ever been published in NRO or Commentary – or anywhere else, for that matter. Which was…odd. So, apparently, “Jay Kaganoff” is actually one Jay W. Cobb, who did indeed published a couple of pieces at Commentary and NRO and used to have a blog on Medium called the Buckley Club….which he completely deleted the day before the “Jay Kaganoff” piece was published. I have no idea what all that means, but it’s weird. Why the name change and the secrecy? Why did WaPo participate in the subterfuge which has no apparent purpose?

    1. Michael

      I know nothing about this but just wanted to mention that his pseudonym is ridiculous. It sounds like a joke forum handle or something.

      1. C. Anacreon

        Yes, why not Jack Inoff instead?

        1. Chipwooder

          The esteemed Heywood Jablowme.

          1. But Enough About Me

            And don’t forget “Hugh G. Rection.”

          2. Michael

            Mike Hawk

          3. Seymour Butts.

          4. Chipwooder

            Mike Hunt

          5. Mad Scientist

            Amanda Hugginkis

          6. F. Stupidity Jr.

            Hugh Jorgen

            Buster Hyman

          7. Lachowsky

            My three favorite books-

            “how to get rich quickly” by I.P. Nichols

            “The yellow river” by I.P. Freely

            “under the bleachers” by Seymour Tales

    2. Number.6

      Jay W. Cobb, or the far more plausible …. Jayne Cobb?

      1. Chipwooder

        Who is Jayne Cobb?

        1. Number.6

          Among other fabulous things, the originator of “I’ll be in my bunk”

          1. egould310

            ?

          1. Chipwooder

            I thought Thurman Munson was the Hero of Canton?

        2. thepasswordispassword

          A man who robs filthy capitalists and redistributes their wealth by literally dropping money from the sky.

        3. Number.6

          Namer of firearms!

        4. This pretty much sums up Cobb.

    3. invisible finger

      “So, apparently, โ€œJay Kaganoffโ€ is actually one Jay W. Cobb,”

      I noted that Jay Kaganoff sounded like a joke name. The self-important smugness of beltway reporters always works against them and they never learn.

  11. Just Say’n

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/andrew-sullivan-let-him-have-his-cake.html

    Andrew Sullivan just reminded me why I didn’t ‘Feel the Johnson’.

    Honestly, Gary’s position on this and the ostensibly ‘libertarian’ people who defended him is quite disgraceful

    1. Chipwooder

      Seriously, when Andrew fucking Sullivan displays sharper libertarian instincts than you, and you’re the LP presidential candidate……yeah, that’s not good.

      1. Just Say’n

        I remember my friend tell me during the election how the Libertarian Party was going to replace the Republican Party after Trump’s nomination. I told him it was possible if there were such a thing as a libertarian party

    2. tarran

      Always bear in mind that Gary Johnson’s primary purpose in that election was to collect a lot of money and lose spectacularly so that he could pay off a debt to the FEC for matching funds he had improperly claimed during an old campaign with the donations from the current campaign.

      It’s essentially the same plot as the Producers. Just stupider.

      1. Chipwooder

        Huh….hadn’t heard that before. Doesn’t surprise me. Also explains Weld’s repugnant presence on the ticket – now I understand why GayJay was so enamored with Weld’s fundraising abilities.

        1. tarran

          Judd Weiss blew the whistle on Tom Woods’ podcast a few months ago.

          I’m sure Reason Magazine will cover the story with the same intensity they covered the LP convention. They just have to finish up their investigation on the Rotterham rape ring since that’s being done by the same guy assigned to cover the LP.

          1. Pan Zagloba

            What, you’re not satisfied with Shackford’s hard-hitting coverage?

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            What’s that about?

          3. Rufus the Monocled

            Never mind.

      2. invisible finger

        I just have to point out the stupidity of fining people for theft. How the fuck do you think someone with a history of theft is going to come up with the fine money – honest work?

    3. thepasswordispassword

      The very next article on that same page is a doozy.

      And they are ridiculous. The reason for this move is self-evident. The Trump administration believes in the project of Greater Israel, and the right of just one people to control all the territory from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean. They believe this as a theological and moral imperative, and all other diplomatic considerations take second place. Who are the key figures who hold this belief? Jared Kushner, the dauphin who has dedicated his short adult life to obliterating any concept of a Palestinian state; the U.S. ambassador David Friedman, whose commitment to Jewish supremacy in Greater Israel has always been total; and Mike Pence, whose theological conviction is that Israel must be made whole and eternal (and the Palestinians wished away) if the Second Coming is to arrive. Sometimes, Occamโ€™s razor really helps. There is no need to wonder why this has happened. It has happened because this is now U.S. policy: the extirpation of the Palestinian cause and the complete conflation of Americaโ€™s national interest with Greater Israelโ€™s in the region. This is what Sheldon Adelson paid for and what Ralph Reed demands. And this is what they will get.

      1. Viking1865

        JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      2. Pan Zagloba

        It was fascinating watching him evolve from “fucking hell, idiots, Israel is the only sane country in the region” to “(((they))) control American foreign policy!!!” Not as hilarious as him moving from “Seriously, let me tell you how awful NHS is” to “Obamacare rules!”

        The idea that Saudis are being forced to oppose Iran on Israel’s behalf is very…well not original, more I’d expect it on a MEMRI video.

      3. Heroic Mulatto

        Seriously? He used the antisemitic canard “Greater Israel” non-ironically?

        Christ, what an asshole!

      4. trshmnstr

        Sometimes, Occamโ€™s razor really helps. There is no need to wonder why this has happened. It has happened because this is now U.S. policy

        That’s not how this works! That’s not how any of this works!

        1. C. Anacreon

          Maybe he thinks Occam’s Razor is used to shave an answer to your liking.

      5. The Last American Hero

        Pretty interesting move given that Trump and his supporters are known Nazis. 4D chess at its finest.

  12. Nephilium

    I’ll be heading down to Tremont tonight for the Walkabout to get some good food and drinks. If there’s any other Glibs that will be in the area, I’ll be wearing my fancy Glibertarian shirt.

    1. egould310

      Fuck I want to go to Soklowskiโ€™s so bad.

      1. Nephilium

        Just introduced the girlfriend to there last month.

  13. Just Say’n

    “I am unclear as to why it would be a scandal for Wikileaks to offer information to the Trump campaign.”

    Glibs is pushing fake news!

    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/12/08/wapo-yeah-cnns-big-trump-scoop/

  14. Drake

    The Palestinians launched missiles at Israel. Israel is now bombing them back. Kind of feels like they are all going through the motions.

    1. Brett L

      Its always pictures of wounded babies.

      1. Number.6

        And a solitary, empty size 4 sneaker.

        1. Michael

          Preceeded by oddly timed, frantic rescue operations underway in which a single corpse is carried around by a dozen or so different people.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            Hooray for Pallywood
            That screwy, ballyhooed Pallywood
            Where any office boy or young mechanic
            Can be a martyr, with just an explosive belt
            And any barmaid can be a houri
            If she stabs a Jewish infant to death and wears its skin as a pelt

          2. R C Dean

            Preceeded by oddly timed, frantic rescue operations underway in which a single corpse is carried around by a dozen or so different people.

            The Palis have been caught more than once staging incidents or casualties. When needed, they will even provide the casualties themselves.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            I, for one, appreciate their dispassionate viewpoint on geopolitics.

          4. Number.6

            It’s not a medevac, it’s a PROCESSION.

            You’re so culturally insensitive!

        2. The Last American Hero

          Little Marco lost a shoe while jogging in Gaza?

      2. Heroic Mulatto

        “wounded” “babies”

    2. kbolino

      Wow, those comments are more of a cesspool than H&R.

      1. Forget it man, it’s zerohedge.

    3. I’ll say it again; just steamroll over the disputed territories and push the Palestinians into Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt. Build a new wall and say any other attacks/incursions will result in even more land being taken. I’ve had enough of this shit and it won’t stop until the Palestinians are crushed.

      1. Number.6

        Q’s (((politics)))

      2. Pan Zagloba

        That’s what Jordan did in 1948 to the Jews, and as you well know, result was decades of international isolation, condemnation and a pariah-state status. Certainly not millions of dollars of US and UK military tech and a reputation as a moderate, modern regime.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Ah, the ole rip the bandaid off once approach.

          I believe they also handled the restless Palestinians in their country the same way.

  15. Just Say’n

    FYI- if any Glibs do attend the Dave Smith comedy show today in Chicago, remember I will be the guy telling the bartender that Bombay gin is the Nick Gillespie of gin

    1. Chipwooder

      Being a G&T man myself…..I can’t discern much of a difference between different gins. Let the cheap stuff flow!

      1. Just Say’n

        For shame, Chipwooder. I expected better of you

        1. Right? Hendricks or get out.

          Let me clarify: martini = Hendricks; gin and tonic = tanqueray ten or rangpur.

          1. Number.6

            Fuck that shit. Hendricks in 2002 in a tight red dress.

            Oh, we’re off the firefly subthread.

            Nevermind.

          2. I’ll take that Hendricks, too, while we’re at it.

            Looking at who she married is proof that Cthulhu wants to drive us all mad.

          3. He must have a huge one…

          4. Number.6

            I am disappoint.

            She’s my go-to example when I tell pretty young women to go and find a cute, studly husband. The clock is ticking in more ways than one. Nothing lasts forever.

          5. But Enough About Me

            **AHEM**

            G&T = Gin Mare + FeverTree Tonic Water.

            That Is All.

          6. Seconded on the FeverTree.

          7. Gustave Lytton

            I’ve tried FeverTree and don’t notice any difference other than my wallet feels considerably lighter.

            Unrelated, looking forward to trying genever in March.

          8. But Enough About Me

            Jenever ROCKS. Buy as much as you can conceivably bring home.

        2. Chipwooder

          As much lime as I like in mine, you can’t tell the difference anyway.

        3. Brett L

          Stay away from the Old St. Pete Distillery stuff. This person is not lying about the coriander, but it has no juniper flavor that I could discern. Also, the anise/fennel is not a flash, it’s basically the whole taste/aftertaste. Apparently, this is hip in the gin world, but I want the juniper taste and keep your licorice.

        4. egould310

          Jesse turned me onto this: http://www.stgeorgespirits.com/spirits/gins/st-george-terroir-gin/

          It is a very piquant gin that does in fact taste like California chaparral. If you can, give it a try.

          1. Testify brother! ?

      2. Trolleric the Goth

        Tanqueray or bust!

      3. Count Potato

        Here is a quick guide:

        Beefeater – grapefruit
        Gordons – orange
        Tanqueray – lemon

    2. RAHeinlein

      I’m sorry we will miss this – just closed on the condo today, so hopefully can connect with you some time in the future.

    3. thepasswordispassword

      The real question is which Gin is best for Gin and Milk?

  16. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

    This is for NOT a Naked Intruder in the Thursday afternoon thread:

    The neighborhood is called South Boulevard and Park Row. Basically you take MLK Jr. South to Malcolm X, turn right, and then you can turn left on either Park Row or South Boulevard.

    Here it is on google maps.

  17. Count Potato

    “One of the worldโ€™s biggest pop stars doesnโ€™t want to talk about politics. Is that OK?”

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/06/the-weird-campaign-to-get-taylor-swift-to-denounce-donald-trump-215994

    1. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

      They really are taking cues from the Chinese Cultural Revolution aren’t they?

    2. thepasswordispassword

      That article is dripping with lots of instances of her publicly (though mildly) supporting prog issues but because she’s not fanatic about it or explicitly partisan there is a problem?

      1. You’re either with us or against us…

        1. trshmnstr

          This^^

        2. Grumbletarian

          And if you’re not with us enough, you’re against us enough.

          1. Microaggressor

            White Silence = Violence

    3. Chipwooder

      I couldn’t give a shit about Taylor Swift otherwise, but I hope her next album goes triple platinum.

    4. Number.6

      Smart enough to have a good publicity and PR team, and smart enough to take their advice.

    5. B.P.

      Not to worry. Lindsey Vonn is here to pick up the social signaling slack. โ€œI hope to represent the people of the United States, not the president.โ€

      http://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/07/lindsey-vonn-donald-trump-white-house/

      Because when someone participates in the Olympics, it’s assumed that participation is a show of support for the president. Jesus.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        To be fair, Trump seems to think the job involves being the NFL Czar as well as Commander-in-Chief.

        1. invisible finger

          Ask for government money, get government strings attached.

        2. Then I want his first ukase to be the forcible disbanding of the Green Bay Packers, their players banished to Siberia, their stadium seized and handed over to the Orthodox Church to keep sheep in.

          1. Tundra

            Goats, not sheep.

            But, yeah, I am 100% down with this idea.

          2. Anthony Barr’s dirty hit wasn’t enough for you?

          3. Tundra

            Nope.

          4. The Last American Hero

            They’ve already been banished to Wisconsin. Siberia would be a steppe up.

          5. C. Anacreon

            Since this is a reply to Swiss, can I be the one to narrow gaze on this one?

          6. I’ll join you brother…

            *narrows gaze*

  18. Private Chipperbot

    It’s that time of year again. Here’s 45 minutes of Nick Offerman sipping scotch in front of a fireplace.

    1. B.P.

      The link asked me to sign in to Youtube, because the content may be inappropriate for some users. Nope.

      1. Michael

        There’s nothing offensive in the video. Perhaps the title Nick Offerman’s ‘Yule Log’ may have earned it a flag?

        Expected result here though – clicking takes me straight to the video with no content warning.

    2. Mad Scientist

      KK is never going to come out of her bunk now.

    1. thepasswordispassword

      Are they trying to summon Mr Bacon? Because that’s how you get Kevin Bacon

    1. Michael

      The winner:

      any Muslim who believes in Islam then change his mind,he’s corrupted and he shall be killed to scare him and protect others.

      1. Number.6

        Nothing scares a man more than being in a wooden box. It’s so scary, he never does it again!

        1. C. Anacreon

          In Islam, Cub Scouts hold a Pine Box Derby.

  19. RAHeinlein

    Speaking of holiday parties: Tech firms hiring hot models…

    http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article188831144.html

    1. Brett L

      I actually saw pictures from one of these on FB. One of my old HS classmates has done well for himself.

      1. invisible finger

        Is he one of the models?

    2. Count Potato

      “Citing California modeling agencies, Bloomberg reports companies as large as Facebook and Google and some smaller firms are paying up to $200 per hour to seed their parties with โ€œambiance and atmosphereโ€ models.”

      1. westernsloper

        I am not sure what “ambience and atmosphere” models are but if it is high spirited smart ass drunken grin wearing often prone to political rants stumbling drunk middle aged dude I am in!!!

    3. Mr Lizard

      Thatโ€™s a good way to outsource your harassment problem

    4. invisible finger

      At least fine, upstanding people like Henry Waxman want the state’s pensions invested in companies with impeccable morals like FB and GOOG instead of evil companies like ExxonMobil or BP.

    5. Needs moar Geisha.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Ok.

        1. thepasswordispassword

          Damn it HM. How is someone supposed to work when that’s floating around the office?

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            Quit your job.

            Open a chaturbate account and have people pay you to masturbate.

            Use the money to buy weed and play video games when not masturbating.

        2. egould310

          ??????

        3. Microaggressor

          I just got promoted!

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            That Was Funny

          2. Mad Scientist

            You’re really coming up in the world!

        4. Tundra

          Sorry, Q.

          She wins.

        5. Yahweh and Buddha bless you

        6. mindyourbusiness

          Arigato, Mulatto-san!

        7. Gustave Lytton

          Here’s my wallet. Go ahead and take however much yen she requires.

          1. *prepares to sign over house, to outbid Gustave*

    6. Rhywun

      My major corporation doesn’t seem to do parties but we got eight (!) extra (((holidays))) in next year’s calendar so I think I’m OK with that.

  20. Count Potato

    “Hereโ€™s the gender gap that matters

    The gender gap we talk about incessantly โ€“ the one focused on the relatively small number of professions where men still outnumber women โ€“ is not the one that matters. The one that matters is the absence of so many men in higher education. Today, women dominate at all levels of education, including the graduate levels. In most postgraduate fields, as well as in law and medicine, women now outperform and outnumber men by growing margins.

    Here’s the picture, according to economist Mark Perry writing for the American Enterprise Institute. For every 100 men enrolled in U.S. graduate schools, there are now more than 135 women. In 2016, women earned 57.4 per cent of the masters’ degrees and 52.1 per cent of the doctoral degrees. Women earned more doctoral degrees in seven of the 11 graduate fields tracked by the Council of Graduate Schools, including education, arts and humanities, public administration and biology. Men earned most of the doctoral degrees in only four fields: business, engineering, math and computer science, and physical and earth sciences.”

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/heres-the-gender-gap-that-matters/article37183550/

    1. Given how useless higher education has become, is this really a problem?

      1. But Enough About Me

        No.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          I’m not complaining about being surrounded by women.

    2. The Last American Hero

      That second paragraph explains the wage gap.

      1. But Enough About Me

        Actually, the very last sentence explains it. The rest of it is mere foreplay.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      I’m not seeing the confusion here. It’s like posting “water is wet” or “fire is hot”. It’s just a statement of simple truth.

  21. Cliche Bandit

    Hey, this is for Scruffy from this morning. It has some excellent insights in how to fight them and what to look out for. I read this article with clenched fists. TW: New Yorker.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/09/how-the-elderly-lose-their-rights

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Who gives a shit?

      Gas the Boomers.

      Generation war now!

      1. Lachowsky

        It’s a little late to make a move against them, but I’m more mad at the greatest generation. Giving us FDR and the eternal boondoggle of social security I’d argue has done more harm than the shut the boomers did.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Greatest generation were just kids when FDR was elected. They were possibly the first ones to benefit for most of their adult lives but their parent voted him in and were the first to suck at SS’ teats.

  22. Count Potato

    “By the usual standards of social change, popular acceptance of same-sex marriage has evolved with stunning speed. Two decades ago, only 27 percent of Americans thought it should be allowed; today, 64 percent do. It was legal in no state until 2004, but 11 years later, the Supreme Court made it the law of the land. The opponents have been routed in the federal courts and the court of public opinion.

    So whatโ€™s left in serious dispute? A case before the Supreme Court on Tuesday identified a small patch of contested turf. Itโ€™s occupied by Jack Phillips, a Colorado baker who declined to produce a custom wedding cake at the request of a gay couple, citing his religious beliefs. The men sued, claiming he had discriminated against them on the basis of sexual orientation, in violation of the stateโ€™s civil rights law. The Colorado Civil Rights Commission and a Colorado court agreed.

    But that conclusion is hard to square with Phillipsโ€™ willingness to sell Charlie Craig and David Mullins a pre-made cake or any other baked goods. He welcomes business from gays. He only refuses to enlist his creative talents in advancing a project โ€” the custom cake โ€” that would contravene his conscience. (He also declines to make cakes for Halloween, on religious grounds.)

    But while a religious objection suffuses this case, so does Phillipsโ€™ objection to compelled speech โ€” that is, being forced to express something with which he profoundly disagrees. That argument is, well, compelling.

    Designing a wedding cake, his attorneys contend, is an expressive activity โ€” and freedom of expression includes the right not to be compelled to express views one doesnโ€™t share. In 1978, a New Hampshire motorist didnโ€™t want to display the stateโ€™s โ€œLive Free or Dieโ€ slogan on his license plate โ€” and established the right to refuse. Said the Supreme Court, โ€œThe right of freedom of thought protected by the First Amendment against state action includes both the right to speak freely and to refrain from speaking at all.โ€

    To be forced to create a cake for a same-sex wedding is a similar burden. Imagine a Jewish baker being required to put a swastika on a cake. In other contexts, the state of Colorado is more understanding: It sided with bakers who refused to provide cakes with messages disparaging same-sex marriage. So while Colorado is content to exempt some bakers from compelled speech, it wants Phillips compelled to create an opposite message.”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-cake-20171206-story.html

    1. Mr Lizard

      All you mammals just want cake…

      Speaking of TRUE DOMINEERING SPECIES PREFER COOKIE CAKES (with a celebratory message thinly drawn in icing)

    2. B.P.

      I might just have to wander down the road and buy a cake from this guy to see if his stuff is any good. I did like the part in the oral arguments where Justice Gorsuch said, โ€œIn fact, I have yet to have a wedding cake that I would say tastes great…”

  23. The Other Kevin

    I posted on here about the fireworks we had at my mom and dad’s on Thanksgiving. Mom and Dad are full-on kool-aid drinking Democrats, and my brother and brother-in-law are Trump supporters. My brother just texted me a photo of the Trump chia head he’s giving to my mom and dad for Christmas. He’s also getting them a MAGA hat. Should be an interesting holiday season.

    1. trshmnstr

      Lol, that’s exactly what I would do. I love spiteful people.

    2. thepasswordispassword

      Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn
      โ€˜a man against his father,
      a daughter against her mother,
      a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-lawโ€”
      a manโ€™s enemies will be the members of his own household.โ€™
      Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

      Sad!

      1. invisible finger

        People do need to be reminded that the State is a false God.

    1. Number.6

      … just infatuation. A flash in the pan.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      Peak autism will never be reached.

    3. Number.6

      Chubby narcissist narcissisticates. Pictures at 10

    4. SimonD

      Obligatory:

      I know it’s obvious, but it had to be said.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b07-yKnKRMQ

  24. Viking1865

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bqx2wIQtKo

    Dos Gringos really showcase the professionalism, decorum, dignity, and good taste that the American fighter pilot community is known for.

    NSFW.

    1. thepasswordispassword

      Specifically pilots who can’t stand the official name of the Lawn Dart and instead call it the “Viper”
      The drink mixes extremely well and is a unique experience straight.

      1. trshmnstr

        I thought “Viper” referred to a specific variant of the F-16. Kinda like the Hornet v. the Super Hornet v. the Growler

        1. thepasswordispassword

          I’ve heard it applied to all versions but I guess there is a ‘new’ F-16V. The nickname is a bit older though.

  25. Gilmore

    Roy Mooreโ€™s original accuser admits that she added the date and location to the signature in her yearbook, but claims the comment and signature are his.

    “i’m only lying about the stuff you caught me lying about. The rest is all true. i waited 40 years to report these heinous acts because…. My lawyer, Gloria Allred would like to answer that”

    1. Gay privilege.

    1. ZARDOZ. Like DUH.

      1. Mr Lizard

        Not sure how old Julian feels about the gift of the gun

    2. Chipwooder

      The responses from lefty types are amusing. I guess they don’t remember when Assange was the darling of their side when it was Bush he was hurting.

    1. trshmnstr

      I knew i was gonna regret that click

      1. But Enough About Me

        I’ve known several guys who did this. They all ended up regretting it.

        1. trshmnstr

          I don’t think it has ever come up in a conversation before for me.

          However, generally I am against drilling holes in my genitalia, in case anybody want to know if there’s some metal in my “lil’ fuzzy green”

          If you want to see some really fun piercings, check under big bird’s feathers!

  26. tarran

    So, I’ve been reading the DOJ report on the John Doe I – III investigations conducted by democrats in the state ethics watchdog board in an effort to unseat Scott Walker. It’s both funny and infuriating.

    The investigation was overbroad. It was partisan. They stored the massive quantitites of info they hoovered up, including password lists, personal emails about sensitive subjects (like medical conditions) in insecure locations that anybody could literally walk off the street and access with no one the wiser. Oh, and naturally a great bit of evidence was placed in an unncrypted external hard-drive that has now disappeared.

    The Wisconsin DOJ lawyer drafting this clearly had a dry sense of humor:

    “DOJ was unable to determine why investigators ever obtained, let alone saved and labeled, over 150 very private and very personal emails between a Senator and her child, or why investigators placed those emails in a folder named โ€œOpposition Research.โ€ “

    I liked this juxtaposition:

    The prosecution team petitioned the court to keep all information relating to the John Doe II investigation secret. They argued that secrecy was necessary to render witnesses more free in their disclosures, to prevent defendants from hiding, tampering with, or destroying evidence, and to keep testimony that may be mistaken, untrue, or irrelevant from the public. The secrecy order was amended at least 26 times.

    Although secrecy was deemed necessary to the prosecution, the prosecution drafted very broad exemptions to the secrecy orders. From the very start of John Doe II, access to secret materials was not reasonably limited to a finite group of individuals, as is typical in a John Doe proceeding or grand jury investigation. …

    In total, the secrecy orders authorized at least 60 specific individuals to review and handle secret information. In addition to these specific individuals, the various orders also authorized access for potentially hundreds of other individuals including (1) all Milwaukee County DAโ€™s Office staff assigned to the case, (2) support staff and other professional staff designated by GAB, and (3) any staff members in the Dane County DAโ€™s Office โ€œspecifically authorized by the Milwaukee County District Attorneyโ€™s Office.โ€ Because of the broad scope of these secrecy orders, the exact names of all individuals who had access to the secret documents under the secrecy orders was never documented and thus is unknown. Email records show that many persons whose names do not specifically appear on the secrecy orders accessed confidential material including current Elections Commission Counsel Nathan Judnic, former GAB employee Molly Nagappala, and Milwaukee District Attorneyโ€™s Office Investigator Robert Stelter.

    A couple of pages later in the same narrative section:

    In October 2013, the prosecution team sought additional evidence. The prosecution team obtained additional โ€œwide-ranging subpoenas and search warrants for 29 organizations and individuals, seeking millions of documents that had been created over a period of several years.โ€ Two Unnamed Petitioners, 363 Wis. 2d 1, ยถ 2. The Wisconsin Supreme Court, referring to these additional subpoenas and warrants issued in October 2013, stated that the โ€œbreadth of the documents gathered pursuant to subpoenas and seized pursuant to search warrants is amazing.โ€ Id. ยถ 29. The items
    seized included โ€œbusiness papers, computer equipment, phones, and other devices, while [the] targets were restrained under police supervision and denied the ability to contact their attorneys.โ€ Id. These documents included โ€œvirtually every document possessed by the [targets] relating to every aspect of their lives, both personal and professional, over a five-year span (from 2009 to 2013).โ€ Id. The subpoenas and search warrants were executed in or about October 2013, which led to the most infamous incident of the entire John Doe II proceeding: โ€œThe [personal residence] search warrants were executed at approximately 6:00 a.m. on October 3, 2013, in pre-dawn, armed, paramilitary-style raids in which bright floodlights were used to illuminate
    the targetsโ€™ homes.โ€ Two Unnamed Petitioners, 363 Wis. 2d 1, ยถ 28.

    Nothing says keeping an investigation secret like floodlights illuminating the targets’ homes and tipping off the press to bring TV cameras.

    1. Mr Lizard

      That noise to the north is the sound of nothing else happening

    2. thepasswordispassword

      I saw that popup earlier this week. Much like Menendez I expect to hear little to nothing about it.

    3. Viking1865

      Jesus Christ, at some point people need to actually go to prison. This shit is beyond the pale.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Forget prisons, those people need to go to the boats. I imagine the honey will not be much of an attractant on Lake Michigan at this time of year, but I’m willing to try it.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          For any would-be cocksucking sacks of shit like Preet, the above is hyperbole and is in no way an actual threat. Fuck you Preet.

    4. juris imprudent

      I’m kinda assuming that wood chippers are pretty common in Wisconsin.

    1. Mr Lizard

      Somebody left their headlights on

    2. thepasswordispassword
      1. Count Potato
  27. egould310

    Just got home and my Glibertarian schwag had arrived. Fuck yeah!?? https://twitter.com/egould310/status/939277089089380352

    1. Festus

      Yay! I’d order some for myself but I’ve taken a strict “No Logos” policy in the last few years. It’s not that I hate corporations as such but that I don’t like interacting with people. Much. Anymore. I’m trying to blend in with the surroundings and don’t need some ding-hole asking questions about “Glibs” in the check-out line at Walmart. They wouldn’t like the answer.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      Did you find the complementary dick pic I placed inside the stein?

      1. Festus

        He’d have to drink the entire thing ergo being a Californian, no.

    1. Festus

      Not an “outdoorsy-type”.

    2. thepasswordispassword

      The guy prefers Half Fast to Cheba Hut. Cosmo’s is cheap trash that makes up for it in volume.

      1. Festus

        I almost bit but then remembered that the Gliberatti are mostly more clever than me and put my snark stick back into its special snark stick case and triple checked the door of the locker. Made sure of the doors and windows, just to be sure.

      1. Festus

        THAT right there is what you might call a *narrowed gaze*!

      2. Gustave Lytton

        Nice. Driving around open carry.

        #dontgivafuck?

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Unless that’s his phone over his right pocket.

        2. Heroic Mulatto

          I love the idea that there is some Chinese Triad enforcer driving around the highways of HK enforcing driving courtesy. Even after scaring a normal shitless for tailgating, he remembers to use his signal when merging into traffic.

          This man is everything I aspire to be.

          1. Tundra

            Except for the gloves. That’s weak.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            Yes. You’d think a guy like that could afford some Autodromos.

          3. Tundra

            Much better.

        3. Festus

          Would have been almost as awesome if he popped a beer, swigged it down and threw the empty at the windshield. Almost.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            With his pinky outstretched. Because culture.

  28. Tundra

    Slap Shot on Starz.

    I have a game at 9:45. A little instructional never hurts.

    1. Festus

      Slap Shot is a lie! There was only one Gordie Howe and Paul Newman ain’t fit to lick his garters! Fun movie.

    2. Mad Scientist

      “I’m gonna wiggle it at ’em, you cheap bastard. Be prepared, because when I yank it out, everybody in that audience except my wife is gonna be runnin’ for the exits.”

    3. creech

      Scouts?

  29. Yusef drives a Kia

    I love Pot delivery, 45 minutes, good deals and good Weed,
    /21st Century!!!!!

    1. Festus

      I can see that, now that I’m old and feeblish but half the fun of the Weed when we were younger was “connections” and who you knew. The original #Resist ! Not really, we just wanted to get high.

      1. DOOMco

        It’s got some allure, but it’s just nice to walk in a store and put money on the counter.
        or in Yusef’s case, just sit at home and wait.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Also Traffic Sucks right now, so I’ll enjoy a Beer. Now with a few Bong rips ๐Ÿ™‚

        2. Festus

          Understood. It was the randomness of the supply that made it a little more sexy. Blow your socks off one week, dry the next, rag for a month that you cooked down to oil and then a King’s Ransom of high grade for another while. Yeah, bored young people have boring pastimes. I don’t partake anymore but I miss the comraderie, if not the skulking about.

          1. DOOMco

            Yeah, there is something about waiting for your guy to finally have some again, but that week without is terrible while you try to save what’s left.

          2. C. Anacreon

            As the Furry Freak Brothers used to say,
            “Drugs will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no drugs.”

          3. Festus

            Heh. It used to be a community. Old Hippies and young sharks. Trust games.

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        Well I usually go to a storefront, But they have been getting harassed by the City of Upland, and I guess Jesse, the owner just said, Fuck it.
        I like checking out my Ganj before buying, but nowadays, ALL Weed is good, so Delivery works

      3. Homple

        I have a couple of friends who learned the hard way that modern legal MJ is a lot more potent than the Oklahoma ditch weed of their youth.

        I can’t partake because the Coast Guard tests for drugs when I renew my captain’s license.

        1. DOOMco

          My roommate’s dad came out to visit us in CO and had a similar experience.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            FWIW, Sativa is the anxiety, Indica is the couchlock, I only do Indo and CBD, i don’t need more anxiety

          2. Festus

            That’s why I gave it up. Random levels in the same bag. Panic attacks, even if you know why you are panicking are no fun.

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            Try a store if you can, the people are knowledgeable and there are a lot of choices

          4. DOOMco

            I’ve found I really like sativa’s. We usually had an indica around for our nightcap.
            Festus, that’s another reason legal is so helpful. Same store every time, you know what your strain is, and at least in CO, it is all labeled and tested. You knew exactly how strong each was (within a margin I’m sure) and edibles really got better in that regard.

          5. Yusef drives a Kia

            This right here!

          6. Festus

            I’m certainly not arguing against and I think that some measure of “consumer protection” is wonderful it’s just that my particular brain chemistry has lost the ability to differentiate between good stoned and swing from the rafters stoned. Smokem if you got’em, sez I. Stinks up the house something awful, too.

          7. egould310

            Iโ€™m researching edibles. I feel like they may enhance my running and my guitar playing. Gotta get groovy.

          8. DOOMco

            Egould, I prefer chocolate to the hard candy. stronger isn’t the right word. predictable?
            They melt though, so you can’t take them out with you unless your willing to start guessing how much you’re eating. I’ve heard that the candy got better over time, with the way they were making them changing or something. Never really tried enough hard candy later on to say if this is true.
            10mg is the regular single smallest dose you can get, of course you could cut a small piece of chocolate in half to get 5.
            I liked 10-20 for a pleasant background, running seems like a good fit here. 20-40 for music, but that was someone who smoked regularly and probably had a bit of a tolerance. I also don’t like getting so high I can’t think, so take that all with a grain of salt.

          9. Yusef drives a Kia

            eGould, look down

        2. Rhywun

          I’ve never had legal but the “stuff” I’ve had in the last few years (I have no idea of “strains” and such) was definitely way more potent than I remember from a couple decades ago.

      4. straffinrun

        I get that. Same with rock n roll, tattoos and beards.

        1. Festus

          I’d still be cool if I grew a neck-beard, got a Gadsen on my butt and Zeppelined? Where do I sign this contract?

    2. Lachowsky

      Check out all these guys with their pot privlege.

      If I wanted some, I’d still have to go find a drug dealer and buy some of whatever he has.

      1. Festus

        And shoot the yard dogs just to get close to the porch.

  30. SP

    Alert! About an hour left to enter the Glib Baby Game! See the previous post.

    What’s been determined so far: you people are bad at sorting out baby genders. (Disclaimer: For the purposes of this game, there are only two!)

    Anyone who has already entered may change their answers based on that hint.

    1. Festus

      I picked out OMWC quite easily because he’s older than me and I had a winter Fudd hat c/w earflaps in 1967.

      1. SP

        So, now we have an obvious FREE Space like in Bingo!

        1. Festus

          *Center gets the Square!*

        2. Yusef drives a Kia

          I posted a fresh list at the Original post, does that count?

          1. SP

            Do you want to go with your first answer or the new list? (Hint: when taking tests it’s always better not to change your answer.)

          2. Festus

            Always go with your first answer. This is known. I reduced a try-hard to tears in a bio class because she said that I hadn’t even been to class that much and there was no way that my score (98%) was higher than hers. Poor Pupinia!

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            Second answer, I messed up the first, Because I’m stupid

          4. SP

            OK! Second answer it is. In spite of all hints and knowledge to the contrary.

          5. Yusef drives a Kia

            I don’t Gamble or play the lottery, I never win, unless it’s Rummy/Gin, then YOU DIE!!!

      1. Festus

        An awesome Dad on Quenciara?

  31. straffinrun

    Political Pizza

    Picture this: You live in a relatively small town. Itโ€™s a good place to live, with most townspeople being mutually supportive and often quite helpful. There are just a few local restaurants, each owned and operated by your fellow townsmen. You go out to eat often, to support your community.

    Then, one day, in an old brick commercial building in the centre of town, with two vacant storefronts, you see signs announcing the opening of a new pizza shop in one of the vacant spaces. It will be called โ€œBlue Pizza.โ€

    When it opens, the manager advises customers that the owner is a staunch blue party supporter, and, each month, the owner plans to dedicate much of the profits from the shop to blue candidates. You vote blue in each election, so, you make a point of frequenting the shop and feel good that your meals are benefitting the blue party.

    1. Festus

      So an analogy of going to Church?

      1. straffinrun

        Amen. You need to get rid of that original sin, brother.

        1. Festus

          So, like wipe it with a cloth?

    1. SP

      But what do you really think?

      1. straffinrun

        Loose translation. Wish Japan Today would hire me to do their copy writing.

        1. Festus

          Consider yourself fortunate, Straff, we have Teary-Trudy as our representative on the word stage. He’s the handsome teen-aged boy that cries a little just to get some underbra action when Angela Merkel’s pet scorpion dies from dehydration.

          1. straffinrun

            Point awarded.

          2. egould310

            Yeah

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Additional two percentage points in the consumption tax?!? Christ. FuckYo 2020.

      How about real wage growth by cutting taxation and expenditure?

      1. straffinrun

        They delayed the increase from 8% to 10% because, in their own words, it would harm economic growth. As an aside: Taking heed of a request by Komeito, the government aims to achieve free education at private high schools for students from households with annual incomes under 5.9 million yen. Komeito is the wild card of Japanese political parties. They’re the political arm of Soka Gakkai, a kooky buddhist sect, that often advocates for a reduction in government over reach. Yet, somehow, the help Abe’s LDP form a coalition government.

        1. Festus

          So Komieto is the Grandma that lives in the garden shed. Understood.

        2. Gustave Lytton

          In my narrow parochial view: Tax free for visitors only applies to a subset of spending. That 8% smarts enough as it is at the register.

          The Chinese hordes won’t last the forever.

          1. straffinrun

            It hurt a lot more for you guys when the Yen was at 88 to the dollar a few years back. IIRC, the consumption tax was lower at the time, however.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            I wasn’t visiting then, I’ve only known the 100+JPY, which has been great. On the other hand, Japanese whisky prices used to be dirt cheap reasonable.

  32. Yusef drives a Kia

    eGould, here’s what I take every day, You don’t get High, but You also don’t want to kill anyone on the road, and it helps Focus, like Writing music focus,
    http://infusedcreations.com/portfolio/drops/

    1. egould310

      Thanks, bro.

  33. SP

    Baby Name answers (and winners) have been posted! Now, off to eat some of the hottest green chile I’ve ever made.

    1. Rhywun

      I’m late to the party but OMG K.

    2. Festus

      I called one and didn’t bother with the rest. Right once, don’t have to argue no more! Grandpa quote (he was awesome, built me a Tommy gun out of a broken hockey stick in his wood shop). That was back when boys weren’t supposed to play with toy guns, so forever ago…

    3. Gustave Lytton

      1) Switzy was working on that gaze from the start.
      2) Playa looks exactly like I’ve pictured him.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        He doesn’t have a burrito bowl. I’m disappointed.

  34. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I was waiting for them to get around to Kozinski and his penchant for the perverse. I’m still wondering which one of you is actually him.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/prominent-appeals-court-judge-alex-kozinski-accused-of-sexual-misconduct/2017/12/08/1763e2b8-d913-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html?utm_term=.a8f5151bd773

    1. Festus

      They’ve still never brought the baseball coach to justice in my little burg. Faked his own death, burned down their aerodrome and just *disappeared*. Powerful families beget even more powerful lies and allies. I never needed anyone to check my “cup chafe” or uniform fit even when I wanted nothing more than to be selected for the All Star team. So now he’s in the flesh-pots of Thailand, riches and powerful family intact. Seems fair.

  35. Scruffy Nerfherder
    1. straffinrun

      Aren’t you glad this guy can join your insurance pool?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It would certainly explain my premium for 2018 if he were the only other participant in the group.

        1. straffinrun

          But they would’ve risen more without the ACA. *Triggers scruffy into murder spree*

          1. hayeksplosives

            The day that Scruffy changes his avatar so that the gun is pointed at us means it’s time to take shelter….

          2. Festus

            Take shelter or make peace with our God.

          3. hayeksplosives

            Both? And taking shelter means backing into the basement near the gun safes, praying, and preparing to go down fighting.

            Unfortunately, the Remington shotgun w/ rifle barrel only has about 3 sabot slugs left, so time to shop! Those suckers are satisfying.

          4. Lachowsky

            My home defense rifle has a bayonet, for when I run out of ammo.

  36. Lachowsky

    http://5newsonline.com/2017/12/08/one-dead-two-injured-in-franklin-county-fire/

    When i was driving home from work thus morning i saw the smoke from this fire. The highway i drive hone on passes about 3 miles from where this home burned. I didn’t really think anything of it at the time.

    1. DOOMco

      That’s terrible.

    2. Festus

      Ugh, people. When we were kids there was a harelipped kid who was babied. Meanest fucker that you ever met. He ended up murdering his parents and burning the house down. That guy was toxic. He did it for their money.

      1. Lachowsky

        A guy who was the same age as my older brother built a bomb and put it in his father truck. He managed to successfully detonate it and damn near killed his father.

        His father had made a fortune in the drilling business. He had invented some sort of drill head that is use all over the industry and became a millionare. His son tried to kill him out of nothing but greed. The son did 10 years in prison I beleive, but is a free man today. His dad died a cripple while he was still in prison.

        1. Festus

          Everybody at school tried to be his pal. My Bro was in his band classes and saw that he was an asshole. He tried to bully a younger brother of my friend and got slammed. He became a party guy later. Raped a sleeping girl. Got into the coke and figured “Why the fuck not?” Got his buddy to shoot his Mom and Dad dead and burn the house down.

  37. Lachowsky

    http://5newsonline.com/2017/12/08/oklahoma-prosecutor-declines-to-charge-cop-in-deaf-mans-killing/

    In other news, shooting a deaf guy to death for not listening is apparently an approved procedure.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      This is somehow surprising to you?

      1. Lachowsky

        Not at all. And that’s the problem. There aren’t nearly enough former police officers in prison.

    2. hayeksplosives

      i’ve read of cops tazing and even killing people having epileptic seizures, despite wearing the Med ID bracelets and/or having a companion explaining what is happening.

      Kind of freaks me out because I got diagnosed with epilepsy when I was 31. Fortunately, I was able to find a medication that works great for me so I can lead a normal life, but for some people, frequent seizures are part of life, and the fact that many seizures begin and end with weird semi-conscious periods doesn’t help with witness understanding. Most people think a seizure is always just a straight-up crappie-flop convulsion, but there are many types depending on what part and how much of the brain is screwing up electrically.

      I have temporal lobe epilepsy, and until I was diagnosed at 31, I didn’t know that it wasn’t normal to have a deja vu episode at least 3 times a week! Lolz. I finally got diagnosed when a “partial seizure” turned into a grand-mal at a political convention of all things. I was underslept, underfed, stressed out, and tired, so my “seizure threshold” dropped and I had a big un. Next thing I knew I was struggling with a paramedic in an ambulance (I wanted that oxygen mask OFF before I really came around and knew what was happening). Very weird.

      Anyhoo, to get back on topic, yeah, the fact that people with handicaps get assumed to be “suspicious” and thus shootable is fairly alarming. Autistic, deaf, a little slow, epileptic, diabetic–all could lead to death in order to avoid endangerment to an officer.

      1. Lachowsky

        I think that the whole thought that cops should be somehow held unaccountable for their actions because they perceive danger is awful. Cops jobs aren’t that dangerous. My damn job is more dangerous than most cops. About 10 years ago the cops in my town shot a mentally retarded man to death for not complying. In my town about 8 years ago a cop tasered an 11 year old girl for not complying with orders. Hell the local PD. tasered my little brother in the chest in my parents for running away. They charged him with a felony for obstructing governmental operations. They only dropped the charge after he FOIAed the footage from the tasered and threatened to sue the PD. About a year ago, they arrested a 20 year old who was high on meth. After getting him into a jail cell they claimed he was acting unruly in his cell. The PD went in and tasered him until he was dead. My father was the physician in the ER when they brought his corpse in 30 minutes after they killed him. My dad told me he was electrocuted to death.

        All this stuff happens all the damn. That’s just stuff I can think off the top of my head that has happened recently in a town with a population of 3000 people.

        1. hayeksplosives

          How did you not twist off and murder someone when you learned this???

          I mean, good for you, but it’s crazy infuriating. Just when I was going to go to bed, and now I want TO KILL.

          1. Lachowsky

            It’s maddening that the majority of the population defend these people reflexively, without putting any thought into the matter.

      2. straffinrun

        In an authoritarian bureaucracy, those that aren’t able to comply in the correct way are hindrances to “progress”. Inclusive my ass.

      3. Festus

        I just think back to the boys that thought being a Cop was a great choice when we were in school.

        1. hayeksplosives

          My first boyfriend got in trouble at age 18-19 because a nutty cop claimed he (BF) had driven aggressively close to cop when cop was jogging. BF was bewildered and seeking advice and redress with the PD, and they pretty much acknowledged that, yeah, that cop is a paranoid A-hole looking for a fight. Let the BF off, but kept nutcase cop on.

          I have wondered in these past 25 years whether he ever twisted off and shot a dog or a person. Some people are attracted to that kind of power.

          1. Lachowsky

            I would that that the odds are high that the asshole cop has probably killed many pets and maybe a person or two since then. Assholes on a power trip backed by the might of the state tend to cause a lot of damage throughout their careers.

  38. Lachowsky

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mesa-police-shooting-daniel-shaver-seen-crawling-begging-in-disturbing-video/

    This is pretty infuriating. I don’t know how a jury could watch thus and still vote to acquit this guy. People must love their cops.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Listen, libtard, it’s quite simple. If you don’t want to be shot while crawling on your belly on the floor like a thug, don’t pull up your underwear in front of a peace officer like a thug.

      1. Lachowsky

        There are entirely too many people with that attitude. Where I live, it’s a pretty conservative place and a lot of the people I know have a pretty strong skepticism about government and share many of my beliefs. Too damn many of them will hand wave away shit like this as unfortunate, but hey cops have tough jobs.

        1. Rhywun

          Enh, I live in Lib central and it’s the same shit.

    2. Derpetologist

      It’s the Just World Hypothesis in action.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis

    3. Festus

      The guy was actually crying. That cop was playing a video game with that poor fucker’s life. He should be warming in a big chair, as we speak.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        He went home and fucked jerked off fucked his supermodel wife afterwards, I’ll bet.

    4. hayeksplosives

      Wow. Just watched it. I can totally see being in Daniel’s position. The instructions were very confusing. Hands straight up! (Complies immediately). Your hands go down or to the small of your back and you’re dead (wait, at first, it sounded like a command, just like the first one–but now it’s a condition. How about talking like a human being?). Next, crawl. Most of us think crawling means all fours, so the guy crawls on all fours. How is that consistent with HANDS STRAIGHT UP! Your hands go down AND YOU’RE DEAD! CRAWL! I would be crying too. I would probably have asked in all seriousness if they wanted me to shuffle forward on my knees only with hands up or truly crawl, because my freaking life is at stake. But they gave terrible instructions, guy tried to comply, and they shot him.

      I guess I won’t be sleeping tonight.

      1. Lachowsky

        It’s pretty bad. How does one comply multiple conflicting orders? Especially in a high stress situation. It’s impossible. And in this case, the state actually did the right thing and brought charges against the officer. That happens rarely. But then jury voted to acquit the guy. I don’t get it.

        1. Rhywun

          Jury selection FTW

  39. Heroic Mulatto

    My thoughts on the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.:

    ืฉืœื•ื, ืงื•ืจืื™ื ืœื™ ื™ืขืจื”. ืื ื™ ื‘ืช 18, ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืขื•ืจ ื‘ื”ื™ืจ ื•ืฉื™ืขืจ ื—ื•ื ื‘ื”ื™ืจ. ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื˜ื•ืกื™ืง ืžื•ืฆืง ื•ื—ื˜ื•ื‘ ื•ืฉื“ื™ื™ื ื‘ื™ื™ื ื•ื ื™ื™ื ื•ื™ืคื™ื. ื—ื‘ืจ ืฉืœื™,ืœื™ืื , ื‘ืขืœ ื’ื•ืฃ ื—ื˜ื•ื‘ ื•ืฉืจื™ืจื™ ืขื ืฉื™ืขืจ ื—ื•ื ื•ืื™ื‘ืจ ื‘ื™ื ื•ื ื™ ื•ืขื‘ื”. ื”ื›ืœ ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœืคื ื™ ืงืฆืช ืคื—ื•ืช ืžืฉื ื”, ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉ ืื—ืจื™ ืฉืกื™ื™ืžืชื™ ืืช ื”ืชื™ื›ื•ืŸ ื•ืœื™ืื ื”ื—ืœื™ื˜ ืœืคื ืง ืื•ืชื™ ื•ืœืงื—ืช ืื•ืชื™ ืœืฆื™ืžืจ ื‘ื’ืœื™ืœ. ื”ืฆื™ืžืจ ื”ื™ื” ืžืจืฉื™ื ืžืื•ื“, ื‘ืขืœ ื‘ืจื™ื›ื” ื™ืคื” ื•ื—ื•ื•ืช ืกื•ืกื™ื ื ืงื™ื™ื” ื•ืžืกื•ื“ืจืช. ื”ืชืžื–ืœ ืžื–ืœื ื• ื•ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื”ื™ื—ื“ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืฆื™ืžืจ, ืœื›ืŸ ืœื ื”ืชื‘ื™ื™ืฉื ื• ืœืงื™ื™ื ื™ื—ืกื™ ืžื™ืŸ ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ืืคืฉืจื™. ื‘ื™ื•ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ืŸ ืฉืœื ื• ื‘ืฆื™ืžืจ ื”ื—ืœื˜ื ื• ืœื‘ืงืจ ื‘ื—ื•ื•ืช ื”ืกื•ืกื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื—ืจืžื ื™ืช ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื™ื•ื. ืžื–ื’ ื”ืื•ื•ื™ืจ ื”ื™ื” ื ืขื™ื ื•ื—ืžื™ื ื ื›ื ืกื ื• ืœืื•ืจื•ื•ื” ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื ืงื™ื™ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื™ื—ื™ืกืช ืœืื•ืจื•ื•ืช ืกื•ืกื™ื ื•ื™ืฉืจ ื”ืชื—ืœื ื• ืœื”ืชืžื–ืžื– ื‘ื—ื•ืฉื ื™ื•ืช. ื”ืชื ืฉืงื ื• ื ืฉื™ืงื•ืช ืจื˜ื•ื‘ื•ืช ื•ืœื•ื”ื˜ื•ืช, ืœื™ืื ื”ื•ืจื™ื“ ืžืžื ื™ ืœืื˜ ืืช ื”ื—ื•ืœืฆื” ื•ืคืชื— ื‘ืžื™ื•ืžื ื•ืช ืจื‘ื” ืืช ื”ืกื•ื’ืจ ืฉืœ ื”ื—ื–ื™ื” ืฉืœื™, ื”ื•ื ืขื™ืกื” ืœื™ ืืช ื”ืฆื™ืฆื™ ื•ืœืฉ ืื•ืชื•. ื”ื•ืจื“ืชื™ ืžืžื ื• ืืช ื”ื—ืœื•ืฆื” ื•ื ืคืœื ื• ืขืœ ื”ืงืฉ ื”ืงื•ืฆื ื™. ื”ื’ืขื ื• ืœืžืฆื‘ ืฉื”ื™ื™ื ื• ืขืจื•ืžื™ื ืœื’ืžืจื™. ื›ื ืจืื” ืฉื–ื” ื™ืฉืžืข ืžื•ื–ืจ ืื‘ืœ ื”ืงืฉ ื”ืงื•ืฆื ื™ ืฉื“ืงืจ ืื•ืชื ื• ื‘ืžืงื•ืžื•ืช ืื™ื ื˜ื™ืžื™ื™ื ื•ืงื•ืœื•ืช ื”ืกื•ืกื™ื ืžืกื‘ื™ื‘ ืจืง ื”ื•ืกื™ืคื•. ืœืงื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ืื™ื‘ืจ ืฉืœื• ื•ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืœืฉืคืฉืฃ ืื•ืชื•, ืจืขื“ืชื™ ืžืจื•ื‘ ื—ืจืžื ื•ืช. ื‘ื–ืžืŸ ืฉืื ื™ ืžืฉืคืฉืคืช ืืช ืื™ื‘ืจื• ื‘ื™ื“ ืื—ืช ืœืฉืชื™ ืืช ื”ื‘ื™ืฆื™ื ืฉืœื• ื‘ื™ื“ ื”ืฉื ื™ื” ืฉืœื™, ื”ื•ื ื”ืชืขื ื’ ืขืœ ื”ืจื’ืข. ื”ื•ื ื”ื—ืœื™ื˜ ืœืชืคื•ืก ืคื™ืงื•ื“ ื•ื”ื›ื ื™ืก ืืช ื”ืื™ื‘ืจ ืฉืœื• ืœืคื” ืฉืœื™ ื‘ืื’ืจืกื™ื‘ื™ื•ืช, ื•ื”ื“ื—ืฃ ืืช ื”ืจืืฉ ืฉืœื™ ืงื“ื™ืžื” ื•ืื—ื•ืจื”, ืžืžืฉ ื”ื›ื ื™ืก ืœื™ ืืช ื”ืื™ื‘ืจ ืขืžื•ืง ื‘ื’ืจื•ืŸ ืขื“ ืฉื›ืžืขื˜ ื ื—ื ืงืชื™, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืœื™ ื‘ืขื™ื” ืขื ื–ื”. ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืœืžืฆื•ืฅ ื•ืœื™ื ื•ืง ืืช ื”ื ื•ื–ืœื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื–ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื‘ื” ื•ื”ืžืจืฉื™ื ืฉืœื•, ืฉืื‘ืชื™ ืื•ืชื•, ืœื™ืงืงืชื™ ืืช ื”ื›ื™ืคื”, ื™ืจืงืชื™ ืขืœื™ื” ื•ืฉื™ืคืฉืคืชื™ ื‘ืžื”ื™ืจื•ืช. ื›ืขื‘ื•ืจ 5 ื“ืงื•ืช ืฉืื•ื ื ืชื™ ืœื• ืœืงื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื–ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื• ื•ื”ื—ื“ืจืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ืœืชื•ืš ื”ื›ื•ืก ื”ืฆืจ ืฉืœื™, ื”ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืืœื•ื”ื™ืช. ืจื›ื‘ืฉืชื™ ืขืœื™ื• ื•ื›ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื›ืžื” ื“ืงื•ืช ื”ื•ื ืกื™ืžืŸ ืœื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื—ืœื™ืฃ ืชื ื•ื—ื”. ื”ื•ื ืชืคืก ืคื™ืงื•ื“ ื•ื”ืฉื›ื™ื‘ ืื•ืชื™ ื‘ื›ื•ื— ืขืœ ื”ืงืฉ. ื”ื•ื ื–ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ื—ื•ื–ืงื” ื•ืื ื™ ื’ื ื—ืชื™ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื—ื–ืง!! ” ืืœ ืชืคืกื™ืง ืฉืœื ืชืขื– ืœื”ืคืกื™ืง !! ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืฉืชืงืจืข ืื•ืชื™!!” ืฆืขืงืชื™, ื–ื” ื”ื“ืœื™ืง ืื•ืชื• ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื‘ื™ืจ ืืช ื”ืงืฆื‘ ” ืื ื™ ืขื•ืžื“ ืœื’ืžื•ื•ืจืจ ” ื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ื‘ืงื•ืœ ื”ืขืžื•ืง ืฉืœื•. ื›ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื›ืžื” ืฉื ื™ื•ืช ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืืช ื”ื›ื•ืก ืฉืœื™ ืžืชืžืœื ื‘ื ื•ื–ืœ ื—ื. ื ืฉืืจื ื• ื›ื›ื”, ืฉื•ื›ื‘ื™ื ื‘ืื•ืจื•ื•ื” ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ืชื•ื›ื™ ื›ืžื” ื“ืงื•ืช ืขื“ ืฉืฉืžืชื™ ืœื‘ ืฉื”ื•ื ื ืจื“ื. ื™ืฆืืชื™ ืžืžื ื• ื‘ืขื“ื™ื ื•ืช ืื‘ืœ ื’ืœ ื”ื—ืจืžื ื•ืช ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืœื ืขื‘ืจ, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืกื•ืคืงืช, ืจืฆื™ืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ืกืงืก ืขื•ื“ ืกืงืก, ื•ืขื•ื“ ืกืงืก. ืœื ืฉืœื˜ืชื™ ื‘ืขืฆืžื™ ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืจืื™ืชื™ ืžื•ืœื™ ื”ื™ื” ืกื•ืก ื—ื•ื ื•ื™ืคื”. ื”ืชืงืจื‘ืชื™ ืœืขื‘ืจื• ื•ื”ื•ื ื ืจืื” ืœื™ ืœื’ืžืจื™ ืจื’ื•ืข ืื– ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“, ื”ืชื™ื™ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืขืœ ืฉืจืคืจืฃ ื ืžื•ืš ืœื™ื“ื• ื•ืœืงื—ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื–ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื ืง ืฉืœื• ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขืจืš ื‘ื’ื•ื“ืœ ืฉืœ 40 ืก”ืž ื•ื”ื—ื“ืจืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ืืœื™ื™. ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ืงื•ืจืข ืื•ืชื™, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื•ื•ื™ืชืจืชื™. ืœื ื–ื–ืชื™ ื“ืงื” ืขื“ ืฉื”ืชืจื’ืœืชื™ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืขืฆื•ื ื”ื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ื‘ื›ื•ืก ื”ืฆืจ ืฉืœื™ . ื”ืกื•ืก ื›ืื™ืœื• ื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืžื” ื”ื•ืœืš ืคื” ื•ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœื”ื–ื™ื– ืืช ื”ืื™ื‘ืจ ื”ืืœื•ื”ื™ ืฉืœื• ืœืžืขืœื” ื•ืœืžื˜ื”. ืฆืจื—ืชื™ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื—ื–ืง ืฉืœื ืฉืžืชื™ ืœื‘ ืฉืœื™ืื ืขืžื“ ื‘ืฆื“ ืคืขื•ืจ ืขื™ื ื™ื™ื ื•ืงืคื•ื. ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืœื”ืจื’ื™ืข ืื•ืชื• ื—ื™ื™ื›ืชื™ ืืœื™ื• ื•ื ืชืชื™ ืžื‘ื˜ ืขืœ ื”ื–ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื•. ื”ื•ื ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœืื•ื ืŸ ื•ื’ืžืจ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ื‘10 ื“ืงื•ืช ืฉื”ืกื•ืก ืงืจืข ืื•ืชื™ ืžื‘ืคื ื™ื. ืกื™ืžื ืชื™ ืœืœื™ืื ืœื”ืชืงืจื‘ ืืœื™ , ื”ืจืžืชื™ ืืช ืขืฆืžื™ ืžืขื˜ ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืชื™ื™ืฉื‘ ืžืชื—ืชื™ ื•ื—ื“ืจ ืืœ ื”ื—ื•ืจ ื‘ืชื—ืช ืฉืœื™ ื‘ืคืชืื•ืžื™ื•ืช, ื”ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืžืขื ื’ืช ื•ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื›ื•ืื‘ืช ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื–ืžืŸ ืฉืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืžื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช. ืฆืจื—ืชื™, ื’ื ืžื›ืื‘ ื•ื’ื ืžืขื•ื ื’, ื”ืกื•ืก ืฉืœื ื”ืคืกื™ืง ืœืฉื ื™ื” ื‘ืžืœืื›ื” ื ื”ื ื•ืœื™ืื ื’ื ื— ื‘ื—ื•ื–ืงื”. ืกื•ืฃ ืกื•ืฃ ื’ืžืจืชื™, ืœื ื”ืืžื ืชื™ ืฉืœื ื’ืžืจืชื™ ืขื•ื“ ืœืคื ื™ ื–ื”! ืคืชืื•ื ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ืžื•ื–ืจื” ืžืื•ื“: ื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™ ื›ืื™ืœื• ืืœืคื™ ืœื™ื˜ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื ื•ื–ืœ ืกืžื™ืš ื ืฉืคื›ื™ื ื‘ื›ื•ืก ืฉืœื™, ืขืžื“ืชื™ ืœื”ืชืคื•ืฆืฅ!! ื‘ืžื”ื™ืจื•ืช ื”ื•ืฆืืชื™ ืืช ื”ื–ื™ืŸ ื”ืื“ื™ืจ ืฉืœ ื”ืกื•ืก ืžืชื•ื›ื™. ื”ืฉืคื™ืš ืœื ื”ืคืกื™ืง ืœื ื–ื•ืœ, ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžื›ื•ืกื” ื‘ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฉืคื™ืš ืขืœ ื”ื—ื–ื”, ืขืœ ื”ืคื ื™ื, ื•ืขืœ ื›ืœ ื”ื’ื•ืฃ. ื›ืœ ื”ืืจื•ื•ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืœืื” ื‘ื’ืžื™ืจื” ืฉืœ ื”ืกื•ืก, ื’ื ืœื™ืื ื”ืชื›ืกื” ื›ื•ืœื• ื‘ืฉืคื™ืš, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืžืจื•ื›ื– ื‘ืœื”ืงืคื™ืฅ ืื•ืชื™ ืขืœ ื”ื–ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื• ืฉืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืชื—ืช ืฉืœื™. ื”ืื™ื‘ืจ ืฉืœ ื”ืกื•ืก ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื•ื ืคื•ื— ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืฆืœื™ื—ื” ืœื”ื›ื ื™ืก ืื•ืชื• ืืœื™ื™ , ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืขื•ืžื“ืช ื‘ื–ื”. ื’ืžืจืชื™ ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ืฉืคืจื™ืฅ ืขืœ ื”ืกื•ืก, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ืฉื”ื›ืžื•ืช ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคื—ื•ืช ืžืจืฉื™ืžื” ืžื”ื ื•ื–ืœ ืฉืœ ื”ืกื•ืก ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื”ืฉื™ื’ ืื“ื™ืจ. ื‘ื–ื” ืœื ืชืžื” ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ืขืœื™ื ื•, ืื ื™ ื•ืœื™ืื, ืขืœ ื”ืกื•ืก ื•ื”ื•ื ื–ื™ื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ืฉื“ื™ื™ื ืขื ื”ื–ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื•. ื’ืžืจืชื™ ืฉื•ื‘ ื‘ืกื™ืคื•ืง ืขืฆื•ื. ื–ื” ื”ืกืคื™ืง ืœื™. ื™ืจื“ืชื™ ืžื”ืกื•ืก, ื•ืžื™ื“ ืื—ืจื™ ื™ืจื“ ืœื™ืื, ื ืฉื›ื‘ืชื™ ืขืœ ื”ืงืฉ ื•ื ืจื“ืžืชื™ ืžื™ื“ ืžื—ื•ื‘ืงืช ืขื ืœื™ืื. ื”ืชืขื•ืจืจืชื™ ื‘ืชื—ื•ืฉื” ื ืขื™ืžื” ืฉืœ ืœืฉื•ืŸ ื‘ืชื•ืš ื”ื›ื•ืก ืฉืœื™, ืžืœืงืงืช ื›ืœ ื˜ื™ืคืช ืฉืคื™ืš ืฉื ืฉืืจื” ืฉื, ื ืจื’ืขืชื™ ืื—ืจื™ ื’ืžื™ืจื” ืงื˜ื ื” ื•ืฆื ื•ืขื” ืฉืœื™. ื”ืชืœื‘ืฉื ื• ื•ื—ื–ืจื ื• ืœืฆื™ืžืจ ืฉืœื ื•. ืœื ื”ื•ืฆืื ื• ืžื™ืœื” ื ื•ืกืคืช ื‘ืื•ืชื• ื™ื•ื ื•ืœื ื“ื™ื‘ืจื ื• ืขืœ ื–ื” ืžืขื•ืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืขื•ื‘ืจ ื™ื•ื ืฉืื ื™ ืœื ื ื–ื›ืจืช ื‘ื–ื” ื•ืขื•ืœื” ืœื™ ื—ื™ื•ืš ืขืœ ื”ืคื ื™ื.

    1. Lachowsky

      So, you are forgainst it?

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      I’m sorry I don’t speak Fluent Jive

    3. Rhywun

      (((Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.)))

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Look i don’t fugiat anyone’s pariatur without permission. furthermore, Excepting an eight legged Cat named Cupid isn’t prudent, and your Office Smells

      2. SP

        LOL! That’s exactly what I was just going to say! Glad I scrolled down first.

    4. Juvenile Bluster

      I remember juuuuuuuuust barely enough Hebrew to get the basic idea of what this is. Well played, HM.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Well, that’s in my YouTube history now.

    5. Somalian Road Corporation

      I’m going to do a Carnac and guess this is the Navy Seal copypasta.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Nooooooope.

    6. SP

      Warning: This is HM. Google translate at your own risk!

      1. SimonD

        I knew better, but I did it anyway

        *sigh*

        1. MikeS

          #metoo

  40. Festus

    So agreed/disagreed? Yahweh sezs “Don’t Say My Name!”

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Yahweh likes to use that fake old-style English with “thou shalt” and shit like that.

      1. C. Anacreon

        I like tricking the true believers by saying “no way” and getting them to say “yeah way” and then telling them they’ll receive eternal punishment for saying Yahweh.

  41. Old Man With Candy

    So, I admit that I could never read Ayn Rand. Ten pages max and then, fuck it, this is terrible and sludgy writing. I don’t understand the adulation. Anyways, SP and I decided for our nightly movie we’d try the Gary Cooper/ Patricia Neal “The Fountainhead.” I was somewhat worried when I saw the credits- Rand did the screenplay. But we gave it a try. 15 minutes. SP turned to me and said, “I can’t take any more of this. It’s the worst dialog in film history.” I nodded in agreement, and we went over to YouTube and watched an Iron Chef. Much better, it was Molinari vs Morimoto in the porcini battle, and Molinari totally destroyed the Jap.

    1. SP

      Not just terrible and sludgy writing; preachy, too.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Don’t leave out “pretentious.”

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          The acting of the time fit the over the top dialogue

          1. SP

            Well, that’s true.

          2. Yusef drives a Kia

            I love that period, maybe an article would be fun, after all I’m the Parade Magazine of Glibs

      2. Lachowsky

        I enjoyed atlas shrugged when I read it. That was about 10 years ago. I did skim through the 100 page speech in the middle. The story was pretty good.

    2. Somalian Road Corporation

      I think she’s a much better essayist than novelist; her newsletters are good too. I’ve read everything she’s ever written, literally. “The Cashing-In: The Student ‘Rebellion’”, despite being written in the 1960s, might as well have been written yesterday.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        ^This^

        I’ve read everything she’s ever written as well. Her shopping list of March 23rd, 1964 was excellent!

        1. Somalian Road Corporation

          I thought “published” but my fingers put down “written”.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            Have you been to an Objectivist forum lately? It’s a distinction without a difference.

          2. Somalian Road Corporation

            Not recently. Online Objectivist communities seemed to have a large proportion of newly-read people with a loose grasp on fundamental concepts like property rights, with mostly just a “sense of life” feeling from reading Atlas Shrugged/Anthem/The Fountainhead. Also a bunch of “help me reconcile my religion with Objectivism” stuff I have no interest in.

            If I wanted a loose grasp of fundamental concepts leading to bad conclusions, I would just read Reason Magazine.

        2. Yusef drives a Kia

          I thought Her version of the Vagina Monologues was Superb!

    3. westernsloper

      I never could finish Atlas Shrugged and felt a failure for it. I was excited when they did the trilogy of movies. Then I was disappoint after the first.

      1. Festus

        I started Atlas Shrugged but after two nights I was paroled. True story.

  42. Juvenile Bluster

    Tonight at my office holiday party there was a taco bar. On the table were sombreros and fake mustaches for pictures.

    Where do I go to file a complaint for cultural appropriation/racism?

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Hopefully you ate all the Tacos first

    2. Rhywun

      HR

    3. SP

      Margaritas?

    4. westernsloper

      Did you make the off comment that you never liked the hairy taco back in the 80’s? If not, opportunity missed to be fired for sexual harassment..

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        I fear to ask,Hairy Taco? who is this Guy?

        1. westernsloper

          *sigh*

          You will figure it out eventually. Bearded Clam? Does that help?

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Ahem, My first thought was Mexican Girls, I apoligise if my sarc isn’t clear ๐Ÿ™‚

          2. westernsloper

            All tacos in the 80’s where hairy, not just the Mexican girls. Sometimes they had the biggest thigh beards though.

  43. Derpetologist

    Today I Learned

    Most people forget 50% of what they hear after 1 hour, 70% after a day, and 90% after a week.

    Without constant reinforcement, we’d have few memories.

    Only about 10% of learning comes from formal training. 20% is social learning and the rest is on-the-job training.

    People remember about 10% of what they see, 40% of what they see and hear, and 90% of what they see, hear, and do.

    And these facts I learned today, I will probably forget in a week.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      And you had to read that to get it? hmmmm…..
      /youth? no offence

      1. Derpetologist

        I didn’t know the percents. I didn’t realize it was that bleak.

        “I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.”

        -ancient saying, attributed to Confucius

        1. Lachowsky

          Fish in other man’s well, catch crabs

          also Confucius

          1. Derpetologist

            Sleep with itchy ass, wake up with stinky finger

          2. C. Anacreon

            Fart in church and sit in own pew.

          3. trshmnstr

            That one works on many levels

  44. straffinrun

    Presentation nightmare. Got the video up on the projector, but no sound. Then got sound, but no video. Let the office lady set it up for me and trusted she’d do it right. Find out she just randomly hooked up cables. MY fault for trusting her.

    1. hayeksplosives

      Do hate that kind of thing.

      They always tell us to “delegate, delegate!” but if the helpers can’t be depended on, how can you keep from being a controlling ass??

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Risk my Dear, gotta cut em loose sometime

      2. straffinrun

        Pisses me off because I had a kick ass presentation ready to go. I focused my prep time on fine tuning my end instead of double checking her work. Lesson learned.

    2. westernsloper

      I thought you Japs had the best tech? All projectors I have used had one connection. Idiot proof, and hence why I could use it adequately. The presentation on the other hand…..

      1. straffinrun

        You Japs? You have any idea how hard it is to renounce US citizenship? Wish it were as easy advice getting divorce in Islam.

        1. westernsloper

          I thought you just had to pay the “exit tax” started by the Obama administration to milk you one last time.

  45. Somalian Road Corporation

    Glen Greenwald, either fighting the good fight or having his head up his ass to a ridiculous degree. Thankfully, it’s the former here.

    1. straffinrun

      Was it HL Mencken that exposed that fault in media with his fake bathtub story?

    2. one true athena

      Sometimes it seems there really is no in between with him. He’s either slavishly adoring Corbyn or calling out CNN for terrible journalism. I’m glad for the latter, but my god, dude, do you think the press under Corbyn or any of those socialist dirtbags is *better* than CNN?

      1. Festus

        With Greenwald you never know until you soak it in vinegar and then run it through the heavy cycle. He was the Editor of Salon, for fuck’s sake!

  46. westernsloper

    Late to bring a quote from the linkses, but I had it copied so….

    You should be prepared to meet a tu quoque not with complaints of whataboutism, but with a calm, โ€œYes, I was wrong, and hereโ€™s how Iโ€™ve changed.โ€ And then get the conversation back to the topic at hand.

    Who is she talking to in that article? Normal people or politicians? Or is she just writing shit down in a fantasy scenario? Are the Dems and run of the mill progs now explaining how they have changed and told Franken to GTFO because they have new found morals after covering for someone who is most likely a rapist but had the right political views? Not to mention, as mentioned above, Ted Kennedy actually killing a woman? No. They have zero credibility and have no say now as far as I am concerned. Their voice should not even have one inkling of merit and they should be shouted down at every opportunity. I heard Debbie Wasserman whutsherface saying how if Moore should be elected to the Senate he should be put right into an ethics committee investigation and removed. Fuck Moore and fuck DWS. Has Greasylocksschultz been investigated by the ethics committee for rigging a primary yet? The whole lot of them are bordering on being an illegitimate government. The fuckers have a slush fund to cover sexual harassment claims? Palleeasse.

    I am sure this was all covered, but I don’t get to Glib too often these days.

  47. hayeksplosives

    I have had a shitty work week and am about to have 2 consecutive shitty work travel weeks, so I just said FuckitIAmHavingAWoodfordReserveRightNow. That is what is happening.

    On the plus side, I live in America, am still relatively free, can afford Woodford, Blackhawks won (barely), and I have what passes as “my health” for me. So I’m blessed. And I have you guys, so something something.

    My long-time (friend and) secretary’s 48 year old brother in law was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer all over the place only 3 weeks ago. They put him on Chemo and his brain started swelling and all kinds of terrible things happened, and he died slightly less than 3 weeks after diagnosis. Left 2 kids, and a widow who is a zombie right now. He was going on the last day, and the docs said he was mentally gone, but the kids held his hand and talked to him and he wept. His eyes didn’t just leak at any other point, so I think he really heard them and knew he was leaving. It was heartbreaking.

    Ok, so that was to remind me that my complaining about my job is really shitty and shallow of me. Don’t be sparing with the hugs, handshakes, and kind words. Shit changes in a real hurry.

    1. Derpetologist

      The time to be nice to people is while they’re alive.

      No act of kindness, however small, is wasted.

      1. SP

        Absolutely true. You never know what someone is going through. Just being nice may change their lives or get them through another day.

      2. hayeksplosives

        This is true.

        My coworker who has been my partner in crime for about 17 years, for better or for worse (he’s the mechanical engineer and I am the electrical engineer on our projects), is going in for kind of scary spinal surgery next week. Yesterday I got a card and put in it the “fruits” of the first attempt we made at shrinking a quarter using high voltage, high current pulses. We didn’t constrain the quarter physically well enough, so it warped and launched instead. I have kept it all these years and gave it to him in a card to take to Texas for his specialist surgery.

        He burst into tears and thanked me profusely. I then taunted him that I was going to pray for his agnostic ass whether he liked it or not. It was a good time. That’s not wasted.

        1. SP

          Geez, you *are* having a tough time. Here, have a virtual hug, and another double shot.

    2. SP

      Shit. You are so right. Pass the bourbon, please!

      Nothing like losing (or watching someone close to you lose) a loved one to make you get some perspective.

    3. Lachowsky

      Enjoy the libation, take work trouble with a grain of salt, and enjoy the good things you have.

    4. Yusef drives a Kia

      May God Bless you and take care

      1. hayeksplosives

        Thax, Yusef.

    5. straffinrun

      All danger in the world could be eliminated if just passed the right law. Then we could all die peacefully.

      1. hayeksplosives

        REPORT TO THE CHAMBER AT AGE 30 OR WHEN YOU ARE NO LONGER PRODUCTIVE TO “society”, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          I’m twice the Man most millennials ever will be, wanna fight?
          /sarc

    6. westernsloper

      Whoa..I pray peace for his family. Life is way to short for some.

      1. hayeksplosives

        No kidding! I see my middle aged coworkers (I also am middle aged) starting to panic that they aren’t going “up the ladder” fast enough or whatever. I think it’s worse on them than for me because they are male and expected to go to management, and I am female and an expert in my technical niche, so people are fine with me staying there. I also am fine with staying there because I don’t give a crap about job titles and I feel like I am financially compensated well for my labor.

        But, man, these guys who all started as tech employees, whether mech, elec, or computer, who now want to be managers—I don’t get that at all.

        Every week I complete what I committed to, even if it means late nights like last night and the next 2 weeks of business trips, but I am not going to sacrifice my mental and physical health, nor that of my husband, by engaging in a “climb to the top”. Eff that right now.

        1. westernsloper

          I have never been to the top but I did consistently move up in my last, now dead, career. My experience is the climbers get passed over for the ones who show they can do their job. The right management sees that.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Once they know your good, they expect it every time,
            Slavers

    7. one true athena

      Got kinda teary there myself.

      Hope all goes better soon for you!

      1. hayeksplosives

        Thanks, Goddess Athena.

        I am good, but my penchant for empathy takes its toll sometimes!

        That, or menopause. IDK.

      2. Festus

        Sorry, got drunk again. Best wishes to all! I’m bleeding from every orifice except my my pee-hole, should I stop drinking so heavily? Asking for a friend.

  48. Derpetologist

    youtube comment gold: She identifies as Bobby Hill.๏ปฟ

    https://youtu.be/WtftZPL-k7Y?t=10m20s

  49. Yusef drives a Kia

    so my W7 machine is probably dead, I have all my backups and such, so I only lost a few pictures, but what I really lost was a DAW for one of my MIDI controllers. i want/need both controllers and my normal keyboard, So i had a full size Android with a 20″ screen and sure enough, my Software Synths linked right up to my Keystation88 and my Nektar 25, so I’m back in business, 6 synths, ready for live.

  50. Juvenile Bluster

    So fucking stressed out right now that I took 4mg of klonopin a half hour ago and it hasn’t done shit. And now I can’t drink, because it would probably kill me.

    I’m going to die before I’m 50 if I don’t change my work situation.

    I don’t need a response to this. I’m just rambling.

    1. SP

      Ugh! Sorry.

      This is not a response. I’m just randomly typing.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      And I said this without reading hayeksplosives above, and now I feel more like shit.

      Which is my own fault, not his.

      I’ve got to be the only man in the world who looks forward to visiting his in-laws for a week and a half over Christmas. But then again they’re far nicer to me than my own parents ever have been.

      1. SP

        Hayek is a chick. ๐Ÿ™‚

        But, yes, it’s easy to feel like someone else’s troubles are “worse” than one’s own, but of course one has to *live* with one’s situation day in and day out, so it’s one’s reality.

        Venting sometimes is good! However, I have to closely monitor my thought patterns so I don’t get into dwelling on negative stuff all the time. Really easy for me to slip into.

        I won the Parent Lottery, but I love my mother-in-law. She’s awesome. Unlike my most previous mother-in-law who hated me and made no attempt to hide it.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          I love and cherish My MIL, even though she fucked me a time or three,
          79 and ripping along, gardening and stuff,
          Love what you have, while you can, God Bless us all, Glibs!

        2. Juvenile Bluster

          I’ve dealt with depression and anxiety disorder most of my life (I’ve had a host of therapists give me a host of other diagnoses, but those are the only two that’ve really stuck). I kept it hid when I was a teenager because my parents would punish me if I showed negative emotion, so when I went away to college I ended up attempting suicide and was in the hospital for 5 days before my father pulled me out AMA because he didn’t want to pay for it.

          Fun memory: The hospital I was in had four wings: Downstairs was the depressed/suicidal adults and what we called the “crazy” adults (they were locked up more tightly than we were, obviously). Upstairs was the youth wing and the senior care wing. The senior care wing was directly above where we were. Anyways, there were a couple of people about my age in the hospital at the same time, and when we were given free time we’d hang out on the “outside” (think one of those cages you see where max security prisoners have their “free time”, but with nicer chairs) and just talk and smoke. Every afternoon at 2 PM while we would be sitting out there this guy in the senior care wing would start belting out the Banana Boat Song (Day-O, Day-y-y-y-y-O…)

          I’m no longer suicidal, thankfully (this was over 20 years ago now), but I continue to have crushing anxiety about … everything. It’s rough.

          I have no clue why I just shared that. I might’ve in the past. Maybe I’ll regret it. Oh well.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            JB, smile, the World sucks, you live in the same shit as we do, I wish it were better but it isn’t, try to stay positive,
            /Self Help

          2. SP

            That all sounds really hard. Glad you are still with us!

            The older I get, the more I realize that everybody is dealing with something. Some people can just hide it better than the rest, you know?

            Was the Day-O guy at least singing in tune?

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            I larfed!

          4. Juvenile Bluster

            He was! We’d sing along.

          5. SP

            I love that. I have a very clear picture in my mind. ๐Ÿ™‚

          6. Yusef drives a Kia

            AND ME WANNA GO HOME!

          7. westernsloper

            I know you did not ask, but I am going to tell you my story of anxiety anyways Some years ago I went through two divorces in three years. The first one went down after the Mrs banging her coworker and then telling me to move out because she had met “someone else”. (I can’t say it enough. Do not marry the easy girl if you expect monogamy) The second was just a mistake decision made the year after the first made when we were both not right in the head. Wife 2 had recently lost her husband of one year to an illness. Anyways after being rejected by two women I loved more than myself I lost it. The synapses in my brain frizzled. I could not walk into a gas station and stand in line to pay for gas. I had to wait for the people to leave and the line to thin and then I could go in. I was a mess. I would start shaking in crowded situations and sometimes just eating lunch in a restaurant. It was terrifying. What the fuck was wrong with me? A friend of mine who had dealt with serious depression and came out of it told me he just finally told himself he was sick of being depressed and convinced himself to not be. I tried that approach and started running in the mornings. Working out in the afternoons when I got home from my construction job. I hit it with physical fitness plus the trying to change my frame of mind. Shortly after that I had the opportunity to change jobs and entered a whole new world. For me, to get rid of anxiety was a terrifying change from my norm. The last time I felt anxiety I was on Percocet (broken ribs) and about 6 beers (who needs a liver) and standing in an a crowded airport. It only took two more beers to get rid of that anxiety attack.

            Working out and change is what did it for me JB. I wish anxiety attacks on nobody. They are terrifying. I trust you can work through those. I am sure you can.

            I am so far past them I was able to quite working out and now I just drink.

          8. Festus

            The Black Dog has been nipping at my heels since I was a tadger. My best psych ward story concerns the crazy-haired older lady that was sure that we had stolen her baby\babies (like a litter) and the long rope that they left hanging from the broken boxing gear. My civilian buddy came to visit and we had a chuckle about it. The next day some crazy fuck tried to off himself with it.

    3. Yusef drives a Kia

      Leave Your Job!

  51. Yusef drives a Kia

    My parents died on the Same Day in 2004, Dad in Co, Mom in TX, and it was a mess, sister drove to TX to cremate Mom and my Brother flew out to Co. to try and save Pop’s assets. I grabbed a trailer and me and Son drove out, 15 hours non stop. Dad’s Guns were gone but his truck was still there, so Brother took it, and we stripped the house, his Girlfriend wasn’t happy.
    My parents are interred at Arlington, Riverside Ca. There’s my 2 cents

    1. SP

      Whoa. That sounds rough.

      I miss my Mom every day and she’s been gone more than three years now. Dad is still hanging on, but there are no guarantees.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Hard living,Vietnam, I think they knew,and are together, sounds good huh?
        /Life happens

      2. Festus

        I don’t miss my Mom. She was tiny and just kept getting meaner as she aged, like a dwarf star. I thought that she would bury us all.

    2. westernsloper

      The girlfriend sold his guns?

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        His “friends” did, Fuckers

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        BTW Florence, CO. i lived in Canon City

        1. westernsloper

          A fine neighborhood with some not nice neighborhoods. I know those areas. I trust you were not in the prison when you lived in Canon City. It is ok if you were. My Grandpa was.

  52. CPRM

    Hey SP Red Letter Media did a ReView of Ed Wood. Did you get around to watching it yet?

    1. SP

      No! I need to go add it to our watch list while I’m thinking about it. Thanks for the reminder, CPRM.

      1. CPRM

        To get you stoked, here is the real trailer for Plan 9 From Outer Space. The whole movie is actually on youtube for free if you want to watch it after Ed Wood.

      2. Festus

        The only Johnny Depp/ Tim Burton movie that I’ve ever liked! It’s a keeper!

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Edward Scissorhands?

          1. Festus

            Bah! Too fey~

  53. Juvenile Bluster

    I went looking for something to make me smile and I found this, which did make me smile.

    https://twitter.com/GarbageApe/status/939176011983400960

  54. Yusef drives a Kia

    Wut?

    1. CPRM

      Yah der hey.

      1. Bob Lozonne

        MARKLAR

        1. CPRM

          Hodor?

          1. Festus

            Hold the door, please. A Gentleman is passing through!

        2. Festus

          Marklar? Maaaaarrrrrrrklarrrrr!

  55. Festus

    OT and a dead thread but my work is making me toil when I can’t. Imagine being a mechanic trying to change your oil while you blithely skip down the highway at 60 miles per hour. That’s me.

  56. Gustave Lytton

    Nothing left to cut

    Smoke-Free Policies in the Worldโ€™s 50 Busiest Airports

    1) smoking isn’t a public health issue for the overwhelming part.

    2) smoking policies outside of the US ARE NONE OF THE CDC’S GODDAM CONCERN.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Office on Smoking and Health, National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, CDC.

      Cut the first part and latter half of the second for a start. Worthless leaches and parasites.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      I remember when I lived in North Carolina and would fly out of Greensboro. No restrictions on smoking in the terminal at all. And that was only 20 years ago.

      And I’m sure most people here remember the smoking rooms at Atanta.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        I remember them, not specifically Atlanta. I’ve got a picture of one in Tokyo last month. I doubt you’d really need your own cigarette. Just walk in, it was like a fog chamber.

      2. Festus

        I remember standing in line at the bank and every second pole would have an ashtray. Heck, I remember when the “non-smoking section” of restaurants, bars and air travel was a left-handed waft of politeness to the nons. Now we’re a cowering shadow of what we once were. Raccoons and Possums. (That one is spit out for you, Sloopy)