Friday Night Links

 

Slate rates every sex scenes in Girls based on their inherent Girlsness. It’s the last season, you guys. There might only a few more hundred times for Lena’s boobs to make you sad.

Finally, the patriarchy has allowed a transgender doll to be made of a transgender teen activist. I assume it’s like a Mr. Potato Head in the junk–just snap on the parts you want and let’s go! [digs out penis, two buttholes and sunglasses out of the box]

Finally, the patriarchy has allowed a transgender doll to be made of a transgender teen activist. No, wait. That’s just the new American Girls doll. Who’s a boy.Ā The American girl boy is named Logan Everett and he plays drums in a band. And his parents died of dysentery.

That’s it. You just get three links. Be joyful.

And no alt text. You just haven’t earned it yet.

Comments

740 responses to “Friday Night Links”

  1. JW

    I’m sensing a trend….

    We’re here for you Sug, no matter what hole you choose to bugger from.

  2. jesse.in.mb

    Brutal

    1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      *cries tears of blood*

      1. Tonio

        So, your handle is a zipper?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Most people only make that mistake once.

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Savage.

      1. This Machine

        Rekt.

  3. RBS

    Slate, Jezebel and the NYT? You’re a monster.

    1. Banjos

      Consider yourself lucky, he was considering adding ones from Vox and Salon.

      1. RBS

        To be sure, he could have written an entire article based off a Buzzfeed “article.”

        1. cishet white male

          To be sure

          *eyes go wide*

          RBS… Robby B. Soave!

          1. jesse.in.mb

            Raw B. Soave would make a good porn parody version.

          2. Tonio

            That was the worst part of The Glibenation – I had some really good stuff blocked out and partially written about certain people, but it’s just not appropriate to tell those stories anymore. It’s one thing to be a loyal reader and poke a bit of good-natured fun at the staff. But it would just be creepy/obsessive to do that from the outside.

          3. R C Dean

            But it would just be creepy/obsessive to do that from the outside.

            You say that like its a bad thing.

          4. Tonio

            [scratches chin] Hmm…

          5. Playa Manhattan

            I’ve said it before: I’m not classy.

            I’m very interested.

          6. Tonio

            Dammit, I know how this works out. You people extort a performance out of me just like Stanley Fucking Kubrick did with George C Scott in Dr. Strangelove.

            “Roll ’em.”

            “C’mon, George. Just do one over-the top performance to warm up. Then we’ll shoot the real thing.”

            And then my editrix scrutinizes every jot, every tittle, every whitespace.

            I’m going to go to my trailer and sulk.

          7. JW

            Glibenation?

          8. Tonio

            The Glibenation is the exodus of Us Who Are We from The Site Which Shall Not Be Named.

        2. To be sure

          There’s not sugarcoating this:

          I officially hate you now, despite your marriage enhancing brilliance with spousal separate bathrooms (Oh dear, is our home now going to be Internationally SWATed by the Interpol Potty Police?)

          PS

          Needs MOAR Performative Wokeness…

          1. Ted S.

            despite your marriage enhancing brilliance with spousal separate bathrooms

            Not the Love Toilet? (Couldn’t find the video in English.)

          2. You *definitely* have never been married, Ted. That would fly over about as well as the Hindeburg when some dolt re-lit his burnt out cigarette.

            (Yes, I know that’s what not happened, Panny Z, John Titor, and every other pedant on the face of this here Big Blue Marble).

          3. John Titor

            You just love taking the wind out of my sails man.

    1. mr simple

      “Woodrow Wilson, America’s first progressive president”

      It’s like nobody cares about Ted “Theodore” Roosevelt anymore.

  4. Glitterstorm

    There’s not a decent pair of tits on that Girls show

    1. Rev. Blue Moon

      what’s her name, Brian Williams’ daughter, she’s fetching.

      1. Only with a shovel.

  5. trshmnstr

    John Dickerson on the decline of the MSM

    “But that one comment, they don’t trust you anymore, is a summation of where we are in America, because I really do think Manhattan-Beltway elites have lost the country,” Hewitt said. “They’ve lost it.”

    Dickerson agreed.

    “Yes, it’s true, and it’s not because of anything obviously Donald Trump did. The press did all that good work ruining its reputation on its own, and we can have a long conversation about what created that,” Dickerson said.

    “Part of it, though, is what you mentioned about the local weather report, which is to say a lot of hysterical coverage about every little last thing that doesn’t warrant it,” he added.

    1. GSL in E

      Pretty much. I don’t think Trump himself is necessarily that important (and I certainly doubt he’s the monster that lives in the fever dreams of the TDS-afflicted). But I do think his election has signaled something that is important, which all of these idiots seem determined to ignore.

  6. Juvenile Bluster

    Oh great. I’m probably going to have to buy that boy American Girl doll and then he and Ashley (current favorite American Girl doll) will get married and then I’m going to have to buy one of those Bitty Baby American Girl dolls and…

    Goddammit, I’ve given them enough money already. Those outfits are expensive. I paid $60 for a bed! A damn bed!

    1. jesse.in.mb

      Yikes. My sister had an American Girl doll back in the ’90s and they were outrageously overpriced then. It looks like they’re still pricey and have way more merch available.

    2. trshmnstr

      When Mrs. Grouch told me how much her American Girl dolls were going for on the interwebs, they ended up in the fire safe.

    3. Banjos

      It would be far more accurate if Ashley was Logan’s fag hag.

      1. Tonio

        ^Winner

    4. np

      Henrietta would’ve made a great American Girl doll. But nope, we have to look overseas for that.

  7. RBS

    That American Girl/Boy has a very punchable face.

    1. R C Dean

      + 1 Kung Fu Grip

    2. Suthenboy

      They all have the same face. they just put a different wig on each one.

      Someone please explain to me why a person would exchange actual money for…that.

      1. MythicalLibertarianWoman

        This one’s face is different–they usually are smiling with a few teeth showing. Apparently this guy’s too cool to smile with teeth, so now he just looks constipated.

      2. sssbobbyr

        Someone please explain to me why a person would exchange actual money for…that.

        It is how you get the girlfriend’s kid to shut up.

  8. The Fusionist

    The Jonathan Brown slavery scandal at Georgetown has reached the damage-control stage, as the Washington Post gives the beleaguered prof a chance to defend himself against the mean right-wingers who are taking his remarks totally out of context.

    1. Broswater

      ”Islam as a faith and I as a person condemn slavery, rape and concubinage.”

      One of these things is not like the others.

      1. Suthenboy

        They look the same to me. They are both lies.

  9. DEG

    64 year old woman gives birth to twins

    Warning: auto-play video

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/17/health/64-year-old-woman-twins-trnd/index.html

    No, this isn’t ripped from the headlines of the National Enquirer. According to a hospital in Spain, a woman really did give birth to twins at the age of 64.
    According to a news release from Hospital Recoletas Burgos, a hospital in Burgos, Spain, the sextagenarian gave birth via C-section to a boy and a girl, and all three patients are in perfect health.

    1. Glitterstorm

      She thicc?

      1. sssbobbyr

        For some reason that comment with that avatar might be the funniest thing I will never be able to explain to anyone ever.

    2. JW

      When I’m 64, I better be passed out, naked, on a tropical beach with a comely native girl under my arm and no fucking kids in sight.

      1. DEG

        I like your plan.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        That’s like a year from now, right?

        Better hurry.

        1. JW

          Shut up Playa. I have at least 3 more years.

      3. GSL in E

        Funny, I don’t remember that verse in the song. Lennon must have added it in a solo performance later to spite McCartney.

      4. np

        I suggest hitting up McAfee.

    3. RBS

      all three patients are in perfect health.

      But what about the father?

      1. JW

        If he’s smart, he faked his own death.

      2. But what about the father?

        There’s a reason why Crusty wears clown make-up 24/7…

    4. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      Soon, the fertile octogenarian will no longer be a hypothetical to piss off property and decedents estates students.

      1. Swiss Servator

        *stands to applaud, then remembers law school and narrows gaze instead*

  10. There might only a few more hundred times for Lena’s boobs to make you sad.

    I have never seen them, personally, and what my mind’s eye is currently viewing…

    *Penis shrivels. Falls off*

    1. JW

      I think I found video of the event.

      1. HIPAA, motherfucker, does you speak it?!

        Though the flaccidity pictured *is* spot on…

      2. R C Dean

        Alright, I want to know how our security video of my last physician meeting got leaked to the intertubes.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Chicago Deep-Dish Pizza is not pizza. Anyone who considers it to be pizza is so wrong that you can safely ignore whatever else they might say, on any subject.

      1. Swiss Servator

        *mulls over abusing editor powers*

    2. trshmnstr

      Deep dish is a casserole and NY style sucks ass

      /did i sufficiently piss everybody off?

      1. 11H1P, Professional Beach Bum

        You forgot circumcision and abortion…

      2. Old Man With Candy

        NY Style is at least pizza. Deep dish is not. “Deep dish pizza” is as oxymoronic as “Lena Duham Sex Appeal.”

        1. Swiss Servator

          *contemplates editor Civil War*

          1. Old Man With Candy

            We’ll go to Lou Malnati’s and settle this like real men.

          2. Swiss Servator

            AGREED!

    1. Banjos

      Throwing journalists and citizens in jail, suspending habeas corpus, imprisoning and deporting a congressman…

    2. Warren Love, an Osceola Republican, shared the post, which concludes with a lament that “John Wilkes Booth did not act four years earlier,” on his Facebook account.

      If one traveled back in time and killed baby Lincoln, then baby Hitler would have had no precedent for killing 6 million Jews.

      1. SQWRLZ

        What about Abradolf Lincler?

        1. This Machine

          “I will liberate you – from your own inferior genes!”

        2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          Well, I’m not exactly sure what he stood for but it defiantly wasn’t this.

  11. Playa Manhattan

    Who could possibly need TWO buttholes????

    1. trshmnstr

      Chris Christie?

    2. DOOMco

      CatDog?

    3. jesse.in.mb

      Really? You can’t think of anyone you know who LOVES buttstuff and is not me?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Yes, but she only needs one butthole at a time.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Ok, Bernie Sanders.

          1. DOOMco

            …we should give butttholes to starving children?

          2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            So long as you you’re not giving them eyeholes that would just be cruel.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            Actually there’s a Korean delicacy of grilled buttholes (막창) that’d probably be reasonably nutritious

          4. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            I’d assume chewy though, unless they just grill the hell out of em.

          5. jesse.in.mb

            We’ve threaded too deeply. I never actually had them. Koreans loved them, but the makcheong places always smelled more *earthy* than I was into

          6. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            Speaking of deep threading, is there a plan to tweak the threading so its more user friendly?

          7. jesse.in.mb

            Not really. Authors were given the option to turn off the side panel which creates a little more room, but getting the links out was a rush job, and it was forgotten.

            My very limited understanding is that we want to avoid *too* many tweaks because it’ll slow down the site on the server side, and are really encouraged by development of browser-side plugins which implement very cool features without putting an extra load on our currently limited resources.

          8. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            Good to know. Doesn’t solve my problems at work, but I can always tweak my machine at home. Guess I need to start researching some plugins…

          9. Ted S.

            I looked up Makjang and got an article on Korean soap operas.

          10. Old Man With Candy

            Or since you have Insider Knowledge, you could have just fixed the side panel yourself. Which I did for you, you lazy bastard.

            Insert joke about SFing the format here.

          11. jesse.in.mb

            Oh, I thought we couldn’t mess with other people’s stuff once it was posted. Noted for the future.

            Oddly the Reply buttons still don’t exist at this depth, I have new sympathy for Reason’s limited nesting dept.

            @Ted try makchang/makjang apparently my romanizations are a bit rusty

        2. While I’ve never really agreed with the whole “Anything more than a handful is a waste”-theory on bewbs, I do have to say that I think having two buttholes really would be a waste.

          1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            *Unless we start engineering people with two digestive tracts.

          2. Glitterstorm

            I got a Taco Bell intestine and kale salad intestine.

          3. Ted S.

            Breasts are like martinis: one is not enough and three are too many.

          4. This Machine

            Hey fuck you Ted, Total Recall kicked ass.

          5. “East German Judges?”

            *Frowns*

            *5, 6, 5, 2, 4 == 4.4*

            The only things good about Total Recall (remake, what remake?) are Ronny Cox and Michael Ironside.

          6. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            “Baby, you make me wish I had three hands!”

    4. Warty

      Anyone with two tongues?

    5. Swiss Servator

      Human Centipede?

      1. *narrows sphincter*

  12. cishet white male

    I assume it’s like a Mr. Potato Head in the junk–just snap on the parts you want and let’s go! [digs out penis, two buttholes and sunglasses out of the box]

    Related.

    1. Lafe Long

      Hey cis, go check out the bottom of this thread, and then start sweet talkin’ JW.

      1. commodious spittoon

        BOOM. Midthread handle change.

        Thanks guys!

        1. trshmnstr

          The good news is that it retains your original handle in the metadata, so a script could be designed to display original names next to new handles.

        2. Slammer

          Nice.

    1. trshmnstr

      Are you trying to usurp Nikki’s title of the worst?

      1. The Fusionist

        It’s just my weekend link ritual – Civil War, Abraham Lincoln, deep dish pizza, circumcision…don’t worry, I finished and I’ll be back to real news.

        1. RBS

          Did that civil war dead body ever make to wherever it was going?

          1. The Fusionist

            Yes, thank you very much for asking!

    2. Over their lifetime more than one in two uncircumcised males will suffer an adverse medical condition caused by their foreskin,ā€ said the study’s lead author, Dr Brian Morris, professor emeritus at the University of Sydney. No evidence of adverse effect on penile function, sexual sensitivity or pleasure was found, Dr Morris said.

      Was it a double blind study?

      1. R C Dean

        an adverse medical condition caused by their foreskin

        I assume getting your anteater caught in your zipper would qualify.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          That’s a vivid childhood memory. The tiny teeth on footie pajamas are a real hazard.

          I assume at least uncut guys can shed their foreskin and grow a knew one when there’s danger.

          1. trshmnstr

            *Tries to hide the Mr. Lizard signal that Jesse just lit*

          2. Swiss Servator

            I wonder if he is crawling this way from Teh Other Site?

          3. trshmnstr

            Idk, he kinda disappeared around the time everybody else left

          4. Swiss Servator

            Hmmmm. Florida Hipster probably forgot to plug his warming rock in.

          5. I wonder if he is crawling this way from Teh Other Site?

            Confirmed Lizard People sighting at Reasonoids. He’s doing quite well, and is currently digesting a wayward small calf.

          6. I assume at least uncut guys can shed their foreskin and grow a knew one when there’s danger.

            I remember when a little boy was born without eyelids, and they used his prepuce to fashion eyelids for a novel blepharoplasty.

            Unfortunately, the lad came out cockeyed post-op.

          7. jesse.in.mb

            I’m laughing, but ashamed of myself for it.

          8. I’m laughing, but ashamed of myself for it.

            Embrace your inner Gallows’ Humour, jesse. I didn’t know you work in a medical office, and that explains many a thing.-) No wonder you both love and hate me. *chuckles*

            Besides, I though that French Tortilla in your hand was a Dental Dam. I guess it still is, just classified under the Green & Renewable(tm) label.

    3. Tonio

      Because practicality always trumps human rights. Let me see, what’s that called? Utilitarianism?

      Also, duly noted that the two most victim-y world religions, Judaism and Islam, both practice that barbaric blood ritual. The Jews are the perpetual darlings of conservative Christians and the Christian Right. And Islam is, of course, the darling of the Progs.

      1. Swiss Servator

        Deep breath, Tonio. It is Friday, man.

        1. Tonio

          Look, I didn’t call him a papist. Baby steps, Switzy, baby steps.

          1. Swiss Servator

            Hmmmmm…OK, you have a point.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        Huh. I was wrong.

        1. Tonio

          Threading fail. That was meant for Eddie.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            Zionist conspiracy.

          2. Swiss Servator

            Isn’t it always on of those, Mr. (((Renegade)))?

          3. Old Man With Candy

            That’s DR. (((Renegade))), Colonel.

          4. Swiss Servator

            Herr Doktor Professor (((Renegade)))

          5. Swiss Servator

            But I draw the line at “Doctor Field Marshal President for Life”!

          6. That’s DR. (((Renegade))), Colonel.

            Oh, your one of those PhDoctorates….

            (Kidding, your science background is more 24/7 hard than your 116 year old schmekel.-)

  13. DOOMco

    Here’s your friday nut punch.

  14. Playa Manhattan

    Pictured: Sugarfree in doll form.

      1. cishet white male

        /Jigsaw voice

        “I want to read you a story.”

        1. I just experienced a thrill of terror.

  15. Glitterstorm

    DoSomething.org is a real website

    I can’t think of anything more progressive

    1. RBS

      Sponsored by some of the largest corporations in the United States.

      1. Glitterstorm

        Pure virtue signaling

    2. GSL in E

      So there are people out there who didn’t get that that Russell Brand song was a parody of brainless progressive celebrities?

      1. MikeS

        There are people out there who know that Russell Brand recorded a song?

        There are people out there who know who Russell Brand is?

        Get the hell off my lawn!

        1. GSL in E

          Well, it’s the song his character sang in “Forgetting Sarah Marshall”. Worth finding on YouTube for a laugh.

          1. MikeS

            HA! Thanks for that GSL, I found it on YouTube. Very funny. And actually a snappy little number.

            From what I’ve read there’s a lot of bad stuff in the world today

  16. (Semi) Serious question here:

    Why isn’t the original Ken and Barbie, since they aren’t, generously speaking, anatomically correct, on this list as well, whilst we are floating down these white water rapids of Subjective Fluidity at high velocity? I mean the discrete glutes are one thing, but the rest? Feh…

    As a child, Slim Goodbody taught me more about basic anatomy at very young age

    And unless there’s a nipple present (boobs are nothing more than gigantic, specialised, sweat glands), those two mounds on Barbie are tumors.

    1. trshmnstr

      The ways of the plastic people are different than ours. You see tumors, and Barbie sees polyethylene shirt stretchers.

      1. Ted S.

        What do you have against plastic people?

  17. Lafe Long

    An older story.. not sure why it’s showing up in my feed today.

    Precedent Set — Man Found Not Guilty for Shooting 3 Cops During No-Knock Raid

    Corpus Christi, TX — Ray Rosas is a free man tonight after a jury of his peers found him not guilty of shooting three Corpus Christi police officers on February 19, 2015. On that day, early in the morning, CCPD executed a no-knock search warrant, forcing entry into the home without first knocking and announcing they were the police.

    A flash bang grenade was fired into Rosas’ bedroom, reportedly stunning the 47-year-old, who then opened fire on the intruders. Three officers were wounded; officers Steven Ruebelmann, Steven Brown, and Andrew Jordan. Police were looking for drugs and Rosas’ nephew, who they suspected to be a dealer. However, the unnamed nephew was not home at the time of the raid.

    1. The Fusionist

      I guess in Texas they don’t freak out over armed self-defense.

      1. They do. The homeowner was a previous target of drive-by shootings, after being a witness for the prosecution in a gang trial.

        His mugshot indicates he walked into several walls sometime between incident and booking. He spent the ensuing two years in jail, and his house was repeatedly targeted by Code Enforcement. The local media polished the cops up to look like heroes. The cops showed up in force for the trial, in one picture taking up half the courtroom seats; one of the officers involved wore a medical brace on the two-year old injury.

        The cops did no surveillance on the house before the raid. They didn’t verify that Rosas’s nephew was in the home at the time of the raid. They subjected not only Rosas to the violent tactics but also his elderly, disabled mother. The officers gave conflicting testimony about his demeanor after the raid. Some said he was uncooperative and profane (both of which would have been perfectly understandable, given the circumstances). Others said he was cooperative and apologetic. Before deliberations, the judge in the case instructed jurors to factor in the fact that the state had failed to produce some critical evidence and that they should consider that evidence unfavorable to the state. Prosecutors eventually dropped the attempted capital murder charges but pressed on with the multiple charges of aggravated assault.

        Link
        Prosecutors also dropped one of the assault charges after resting; the one where a bullet tore through an officer’s pant leg, and was determined to have come from another officer’s gun, not Rosas’.

        CCPD and prosecutors tried to sell Rosas down the river. If it weren’t for the spreading, deserved loss of faith in authority institutions, he’d probably have been eaten alive.

        1. commodious spittoon

          For a pot bust.

          Good god.

    2. RambleJack

      Wow, so somehow defense convinced a jury the cops didn’t announce? That’s amazing. I’m sure they didn’t but I would assume they’d at least get that story worked out.

      1. The Fusionist

        I’m guessing the prosecution *didn’t* convince the jury that the cops *did* announce. Reasonable doubt and all that.

        1. RambleJack

          He shot cops, that changes things usually

      2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        To the extent facts drive the law, the verdict might hang entirely on the banger they used. Might go the other way if they had come in screaming in uniform during the day.

    3. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      This made my day.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Good news for once

  18. Lafe Long

    Trump weighs mobilizing 100,000 National Guard troops for immigration roundups

    A draft memo obtained by the Associated Press outlines a Trump administration proposal under consideration to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up immigrants in the U.S. illegally. Millions of those who would be affected in 11 states live nowhere near the Mexico border.

    1. JW

      What could possibly go wrong?

    2. RBS

      To be fair, our technical border is also nowhere near our actual border.

    3. Volren

      Well I’m not sure what how near they live to the Mexican border has to do with it, but hey, martial law!

    4. cishet white male

      I saw a lot of grief about this on Twitter from folks like Gabriel Malor and Charles Cook, ie people not generally well-disposed toward Trump, who nonetheless called out AP for truly shoddy presentation. The idea was never seriously considered by anyone senior in the DHS, not even proposed to DHS secretary John Kelly, let alone the president. So what title did the AP go with? “Trump weighs mobilizing 100,000 National Guard troops for immigration roundups,” and “White House denies report Trump is considering using National Guard troops for immigration roundups.” Not the imminently more sensible “Draft memo proposing use of National Guard for immigration enforcement dies deservedly early death on low-level staffer’s desk.”

      1. RambleJack

        Damn you! Too slow

        1. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

          It’s the Return of the King commodius spittoon!

          *dances jig*

          “Yes, Virginia, there *is* a Santa Claus!”

    5. RambleJack

      Apparently this was a consideration along the lines of considering all options. The AP even says it wasn’t seriously considered. Apparently Trump set them up. When they requested comment none was given. Now he gets to say I told you so, FAKE NEWS!

    6. R C Dean

      Pretty sure that’s been outed as fake news.

    7. Suthenboy

      Another draft memo? Obtained how?

      Draft memo means jack shit. Trump and company sitting around batting ideas about, hypotheticals. What if this, what if that. What was the last draft memo, I forget? The initial stories about it were ‘Trump is about to…!!!’. It was several days before it was mentioned as a draft memo and Trump said he had no intention of doing whatever that was.

      By the time Trump finishes his first terms there won’t be a square inch of his back without a knife sticking in it. He’d better get a handle on this shit.

  19. Lafe Long

    Meet Zealandia: Earth’s latest continent

    New Zealand might be Australia’s smaller neighbor but it’s sitting on a massive new continent scientists have named “Zealandia,” according to a publication released by The Geological Society of America.

    New Zealand and Australia might be able to finally give each other more breathing room. It turns out they sit on separate continents.

    1. Glitterstorm

      Finally.

    2. DEG

      Kiwis and Aussies will probably continue to not like each other.

  20. DOOMco

    I probably shared this song before, but it got caught in my head this afternoon. so here I am, trying to get it gone.

    1. DOOMco

      come on, that’s a good song.

  21. Lafe Long

    People Want To Shoot Hibernating Bear Families — And The Government Just Voted To Let Them

    “What the House did today should shock the conscience of every animal lover in America,” Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), said on Thursday. “If the Senate and President concur, we’ll see wolf families killed in their dens, bears chased down by planes or suffering for hours in barbaric steel-jawed traps or snares.”

    1. grrizzly

      Outrageous! Something must be done to stop it.

      1. Lafe Long

        Isn’t it time for your nap?

        1. RBS

          Not with all this man made climate change.

    2. Glitterstorm

      Wait so the people didn’t want it but the Senator did?

    3. Ridiculous! Do you know how hard it is to fly a plane through a series of caverns? Real life ain’t Star Wars.

  22. Lafe Long

    Judge Orders Release Of EPA

    Nominee Scott Pruitt’s Fossil Fuel Emails


    A state judge has ordered Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt’s office to release thousands of documents related to Pruitt’s communications with the energy industry. The Thursday ruling comes the day before a scheduled Senate vote on Pruitt’s nomination to run the Environmental Protection Agency.

    Judge Aletia Haynes Timmons of the District Court of Oklahoma County ruled that the attorney general’s office will have until Tuesday to turn over more than 2,500 emails and other documents. The watchdog group Center for Media and Democracy, with legal representation from the American Civil Liberties Union, had filed a lawsuit against Pruitt earlier this month, alleging that his office had violated Oklahoma’s open records law.

    1. Suthenboy

      He is already confirmed. Suck it Aletia.

    2. The ACLU, shitting the bed again.

  23. Broswater

    Following that article on Motion-103 posted by Rufus this morning, I just want to say to my fellow Canadians that I’m really sorry for voting for Trudeau back in 2008 (I lived in Papineau, his riding). I did it as a joke at the time, just to mess things up. I never thought he was that much of an idiot. I am truly sorry.

    As I quoted Trudeau quoting Oliver Wendel Holmes and made some references to the now infamous Bataclan theater on the Derpbook, I expect the Canadian Stasi to pick me up any time soon (It’s okay, I didn’t feel like cooking this weekend). It was nice meeting you all.

    1. John Titor

      I just want to say to my fellow Canadians that I’m really sorry for voting for Trudeau back in 2008 (I lived in Papineau, his riding). I did it as a joke at the time, just to mess things up. I never thought he was that much of an idiot. I am truly sorry.

      Welp, thanks for the coordinates, I’ll be taking the ol’ time machine back there and saving the future now.

    2. Volren

      Meh, it’s not like you would have made a difference.

      1. John Titor

        Quiet you, I still want him to feel bad for what he has done.

        1. Broswater

          You’ll have to admit it is a bit interesting to see him trying to act all intellectual and stuff. What can I say? I like ant farms OK!?

          1. John Titor

            When we’re both in the camps for writing on ‘alt-right’ blogs, about to be shot by the multiracial LGBT firing squad I’ll turn to you and say “SEE BROSWATER, ISN’T THIS FUNNY?”

          2. This Machine

            When we’re both in the camps for writing on ā€˜alt-right’ blogs, about to be shot by the multiracial LGBT firing squad I’ll turn to you and say ā€œSEE BROSWATER, ISN’T THIS FUNNY?ā€

            “SHOOT STRAIGHT, LADS, DON’T MAKE A MESS OF IT!”

          3. Broswater

            Like they know how to use a gun… that’s way too icky! They’ll have those uneducated swines enforce the laws they force in. Oh wait, it just happen to be the same people who write in nazis blogs, nevermind!

    3. I listen to various international broadcasters, and this morning’s CBC news story on it referred to people opposed to it claiming it “somehow threatens free speech”. No bias there, no sirree.

  24. waffles

    Looks who thinks he’s suddenly Soave waltzing in here with sparse links. Also I made another silly ski videobecause I’m tired of people claiming they skied an “OMG 50° DOUBLE BLACK DIAMOND”. Above 40°, most skiers freeze in their tracks. Few ski areas have marked runs steeper than that.

    1. waffles

      OMG OMG did I make the link work? The reasonable plugin made me so lazy I forgot how to do it proper.

      1. DOOMco

        *confetti*

      2. Lafe Long

        Nice job.
        You left out target=”_blank”
        .. but that’s okay. šŸ˜‰

    2. DOOMco

      35 makes me think twice. above 40, I have to go slow. Lots o turns. Avalanche info PDF, but shows some of the issues of that mid-grade. Damn, that looks good waffles. What skis were those, Vokl?

      1. waffles

        Icelantic Nomads, from 2013 I think. I got them in a midsummer closeout sale and this is my third season with them in the quiver. The graphic is a art partnership thing Icelantic does every year so they are a pretty unique ski. It took me a while to warm up to the rocker profile but now they’re my favorite stick I’ve owned.

        1. DOOMco

          Full rocker is odd, but awesome in that thick stuff.
          I liked demoing the Icelantics .
          I am looking at a set of J skis, something in the 100 underfoot range. I currently have the armada JJ 2.0, which comes in at 119 underfoot i think. huge rockers on the end, and the smallest camber underfoot.

    3. trshmnstr

      I’m mesmerized by your ski videos. I’m living vicariously through them

      1. waffles

        Nice. I’m not as good as a real professional freeskiers so my hope is that my skiing is good enough to be entertaining while shitty enough for people to relate to. Candide Thovex is a living god.

        1. commodious spittoon

          What are your thoughts on ski length? One problem I always had was negotiating moguls with the enormous skis I owned as a teenager. I can’t even begin to remember what length they were.

          1. waffles

            Weight, skiing ability, and strength determine ski length in that order. I have 4 pairs from 165cm slalom skis to 183cm fatty powder skis. If you are a full size adult male something in the 170s would probably be perfect to get you back into skiing. Your old sticks were almost definitely much longer.

          2. DOOMco

            with the new rocker tip/tail a lot of skis are using now you have a smaller active edge, which makes those moguls a lot better. Mine are the 175, which is 117 underfoot (edit!). my next ones will be smaller in both directions.

        2. 11H1P, Professional Beach Bum

          Agree with CheGrover, This is nice. My serious strenuous sport activities are pretty much limited to bodyboarding and mild kayaking.

    4. cishet white male

      Is that Kachina Peak lift new? I don’t remember that at all. Lots of fond memories skiing Kachina bowl, though.

      1. waffles

        Yup, very new. The lift started spinning it in spring of 2015. This was my first visit since teaching lessons there 09/10 so I was super stoked to do hot laps on Kachina.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Dang. I am really going to have to save some scratch for next season. It’s been maybe fifteen years since I’ve skied, I wonder whether it’s like riding a bike.

          1. waffles

            Maybe, did you get fat or are you fit? Being fat is pretty bad for getting back into skiing without getting hurt as anyone who took physics can understand. Dropping 15lbs at the beginning of winter helped me out quite a bit. If you are still in reasonable shape skiing will probably be easier than you remember. Ski technology has come a long way.

          2. commodious spittoon

            Thanks and thanks. Reasonably fit, but plenty of time to get seriously fit.

  25. Max Coins

    So I thought I was witness to an unprecedented revolution (the new ’17 revolution, if you will) with the creation of this site, but some recent digging (and a timely link to a similar site from years ago, beginning with Gryll in another thread here) has exposed the fact that there may have been several of these in Libertarian History.

    Can any of you old-timers give me a rundown of the various schisms, what precipitated them, and where people went from there? I find all of this fascinating.

    1. Banjos

      A few years ago there was the Mary incident where a bat shit insane woman trolled the ever living shit out of the comments, responding to everyone comment with batshit insane copypasta. She disrupted the comments to the point where it wasn’t functional. Sloopy started a blog on blogspot dragging some people over until Reason banned the troll and instituted registration.

      1. RBS

        Mary also infected that one. It was around the time of the Trayvon Martin thing.

        1. square circle

          She even infected Popehat briefly during the Woodchiper Incident.

          1. DOOMco

            damn. that lady needs help.

    2. John Titor

      I’d see it as less of a revolution and more of a migration. This is the New World son, and here we have the freedom we lacked in the Old World! Free to post thicc photos and Sugarfree erotica as articles! *cries tears of joy*

      1. Swiss Servator

        Sugarfree erotica as articles! *cries tears of joy*

        Come now, those are not tears of joy. You should admit, as I have, that they are tears of lament for your lost sanity.

        1. John Titor

          “He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden behind his writing. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Sugarfree.”

          1. Tonio

            [golf clap]

            Yes, you get the very first Tonio Golf Clap on this site.

        2. I thought they were tears of lubricant.

    3. JW

      The gryllxodus is about the only mass migration prior to this one, that I know of. That was…2007?

      There was also URKOBOLD, but that’s been shuttered. Not so much a migration, but a playground. BOUNCY BOUNCY.

      1. waffles

        He used to be summoned just by uttering his name. I’m a little sad that it doesn’t happen anymore.

        1. JW

          You have to believe. YOU GOTS TO BELIEVE!

    4. grrizzly

      I remember there was a group of posters who departed back in 2009 or so. I can only recall Jennifer who was a journalist in CT or something.

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        I think Dr. Thoreau was part of that migration as well.

        1. grrizzly

          Yes, that was the handle that I wanted to recall.

      2. Tonio

        They were two of our best.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          Jennifer? Best? Uhhhh….

          1. Agreed. Jennifer is a competent writer, but operates from The Island of Dr. Moreau Flawed Premises, and had more than a couple of heated arguments with her.

            I will admit, the short time I spent at The Gryll, she was pleasant enough, and lightened up on her, “I am Titty Dancer, Hear me ROAR!” schtick whilst carrying a +2 Axe of Perpetual Dullness forever in search of a grindstone.

            The thing that totally redeems her is how she was close, apparently closer than just about anyone here, with JsubD, and was the one who provided all the backstory on his life. I’d buy her and Jeff dinner for that; I’d just ball gag her and make sure her meal is take-away packed.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            I shouldn’t be laughing at this, but I am.

    5. square circle

      There have been a few times when groups have thrown up their hands and gone somewhere else, usually due to troll infestations of one variety or another.

      I myself stayed away from the site for a couple of years after registration (I was in the anti- crowd). Not that I’ve ever been a terribly voluminous commentator.

      We lost a slew just about a year ago I think due mostly to the Trumpalos leading into the election year (I’m thinking of Epi and Nikki particularly – seems like Warty stopped coming around about that time, too, Lady B., and I feel like a few others).

      This current one though is, without doubt, the largest example. This may well be a critical mass. Never before have so many people disappeared all at once and left such worthless dregs behind them.

      I’m a very lazy person and a serious creature of habit, and even I have been spending more time here than *over there.*

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        Definitely the largest one I’ve seen.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        Warty had a kid and got a job. The end. Forever.

        Lady B just had trouble restraining herself around me, sexually.

        1. square circle

          Didn’t know that about Warty.

          Poor kid.

          1. Swiss Servator

            It is an absolutely adorable little kiddo.

            Now, when older – we will all tremble.

      3. Warty

        I didn’t leave so much as I got busy at the same time that the commentariat became increasingly insipid and boring. Which I guess means I left.

        But seriously, how many times can you be expected to listen to some sub-literate whine about the fact that trannies exist?

        1. waffles

          Well it’s your fault I started using the word “whycome”. At least I now know whycome you left.

        2. square circle

          I got busy at the same time that the commentariat became increasingly insipid and boring

          Ah – I read the correlation as a causation, since so many seemed to disappear right then.

          Anyway, welcome to fatherhood – it gets better!

  26. Lafe Long

    Shepard Smith Calls President Trump’s Press Conference ‘Crazy’

    Shepard Smith, the Fox News anchor, on Thursday afternoon seemed to have had enough of Donald Trump’s slams at the media as peddlers of “fake news” — or, when it comes to CNN, “very fake news.”

    “It is crazy what we are watching every day, it is absolutely crazy,” Smith said. “He keeps repeating ridiculous throwaway lines that are not true at all and sort of avoiding this issue of Russia as if we are some kind of fools for asking the question.”

    1. The Fusionist

      Maybe the media can begin its slow climb back to credibility by…oh, let’s say, reporting accurately on some important topic? Something the audience is interested in?

      I’m just the idea guy, they can work out the details.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They can go back to the Obama era question style:

      Mr. President how do you feel about being so awesome?

  27. Cuffy Meigs

    And at the end of six innings of play, it’s the Noids 119, the Glibs 95.

  28. 2ndClassProle

    Long time lurker, and glad to see this site. It’s very nice. Thanks to everyone for your contribution to this site. Now, I shall go and gambol across the plains.

    1. 2ndClassProle

      Moderation? Fuck off, slavers!! šŸ™‚

      1. Swiss Servator

        Only once!

        1. 2ndClassProle

          Ahh.. just teasing a bit. I have been lurking for so long. I remember you as LTC John, then retired, and now Swiss Servator.

          1. Swiss Servator

            Wow….you have been around a while!

          2. Rhywun

            I had no idea those were same people.

          3. Old Man With Candy

            Neither did I, and I actually know Swiss IRL.

          4. Swiss Servator

            “John” was taken, so I went by my old Milblogging handle of “LTC John” – I was a Lieutenant Colonel and my name is John – quite creative, thankee! Then I retired, so I added (ret). Then I decided the whole soldier thing could be put in the closet with my old uniforms and decided to acknowledge my current thralldom to the Swiss (multinational company I work for).

          5. Playa Manhattan

            “John was taken”

            There’s no sugarcoating it.

          6. Zero Sum Game

            LTC John Red Tony.

            (ducks Swiss)

          7. 2ndClassProle

            That is mean, Zero. What is your name, from the other boards?

          8. Zero Sum Game

            Was your turn to be mean, apparently.

            I go by the same handle. šŸ˜‰

          9. 2ndClassProle

            Apologies, ZSG! It was not my intent

          10. Zero Sum Game

            /kidding

          11. Swiss Servator

            *flings boiling hot fondue at ZSG*

          12. Zero Sum Game

            That is probably the tastiest thing I’ve been attacked with.

          13. Old Man With Candy

            Do you even raclette, bro?

          14. Swiss Servator

            Oh man, OMWC, now I want to go back to http://www.raclette-stube.ch/

          15. Old Man With Candy

            You know we can do this. WE CAN DO THIS. I even have the right wines, though you might find that hard to believe.

          16. Old Man With Candy

            This was my favorite spot. The big fibreglass cow out front was remarkable.

            http://www.etable07.fr/

          17. Swiss Servator

            NOTE TO ALL: OMWC always has the right wine.

            But I no speaka the Frog, so lets stick to Zürich…

            Now, I just need a duffel bag of cash to appear on my doorstep.

  29. Lafe Long

    Tony Blair calls on remainers to ‘rise up in defence of our beliefs’

    The former prime minister will make the statement at his first big speech since the EU referendum, arguing that people were misinformed when they voted for Brexit.

    “The people voted without knowledge of the true terms of Brexit. As these terms become clear, it is their right to change their mind,” he is expected to say. “Our mission is to persuade them to do so.”

    1. Glitterstorm

      How long was Farage railing against the EU? I mean this didn’t happen over night

    2. Suthenboy

      Not surprised that the EU Limeys are in just as much denial over Brexit as the proggies here over Clinton’s crushing defeat.

      They love them some democracy until they lose, then they throw tantrums until they get their way. Go ahead motherfuckers, hold your breath and watch me smile while you pass out.

  30. Lafe Long

    Federal judge dismisses Massachusetts defamation lawsuit against Cosby

    A federal judge in Massachusetts on Thursday dismissed a defamation lawsuit against Bill Cosby by an actress who claimed he raped her, ruling that the comedian acted within his rights when he proclaimed himself innocent of the crime.

  31. Lafe Long

    Lisa Marie Presley’s twins taken from her: ā€˜disturbing’ photos found on estranged husband’s computer

    The eight-year-old twin daughters of Lisa Marie Presley are now in the custody of child protective services, after the daughter of legendary singer Elvis Presley found “disturbing” photos and videos of children on the computer of Michael Lockwood, her estranged husband and the twins’ father, the British tabloid The Daily Mail is reporting.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Married to Nick Cage and Michael Jackson. Who could have guessed that her 4th husband would be such a weirdo?

  32. Lafe Long

    Alphabet Scraps Plan to Blanket Globe With Internet Balloons

    In 2013, Google ran its first tests for Project Loon, an ambitious effort to circulate broadband-emitting balloons across the globe. On Thursday, the company said that’s not necessary anymore.

    Executives at the project said they have found ways to run the program with fewer balloons. Rather than building a worldwide network, the team will now launch a small number of balloons into particular regions that need internet access. That will accelerate the project’s path toward becoming an actual commercial operation, the Loon team said. The announcement is consistent with moves across Google parent Alphabet Inc. to curb costs at its riskier, expensive projects.

  33. Lafe Long

    WWE wrestler George ‘The Animal’ Steele dies at age 79

    “WWE is saddened to learn that WWE Hall of Famer William James Myers, known to fans as George ‘The Animal’ Steele, has passed away at the age of 79,” the wrestling outfit posted on their website.

  34. Glitterstorm

    dajjal is reason enough to not visit reason at all

    1. Shhh. He probably googles his handle. Like Voldemort. He’ll hear us.

    2. square circle

      Especially now that he’s like 65% of the commenters.

      1. Cuffy Meigs

        John and Fist and Gilmore and Ken Shultz are 65% of the commenters.

        1. waffles

          I’m a fan of them, especially the unhinged John rants where he becomes singularly obsessed with some tiny sliver of an argument and then beats the thread to death with it. Not that I’d try to court that over this way.

          1. commodious spittoon

            I’m beginning to wonder whether Bo was really John all along, trying to gin up pointless debates to litigate ad nauseum, even against himself.

          2. Old Man With Candy

            No, the spelling was too good.

          3. Ted S.

            And immediately calls you preternaturally stupid if you disagree with him.

          4. Zero Sum Game

            I got a “sub 70 IQ rating” outta him. I forget what it was that I said to wind him up, but that hardly matters since it’s probably easier to list things that don’t.

            I think I was peppering him with insults and quoting scripture at him. It was probably the latter that really got under his skin. I think the implication that he’s being un-Christian bothers him far more because it’s one thing he never tries to refute.

          5. Swiss Servator

            I got under his skin in one of the autonomous car threads and he started all sorts of insults towards me – I never addressed him again (despite the temptation to slag him with all sorts of digs how my military and legal careers beat his into the dust)…he didn’t seem to notice, and would reply to comments of mine later on.
            He is one odd duck, and I don’t miss him.

          6. Playa Manhattan

            I called him a homophobe last night, and then he gave me law school advice shortly thereafter.

          7. mr simple

            The funniest part of that is he’s so sensitive to any perceived slight.

          8. Slammer

            I agree with waffles. I like those threads where John goes off.
            I can see why others find it annoying, though.

        2. square circle

          John and Fist and Gilmore and Ken Shultz are 65% of the commenters.

          I was riffing on the theory that dajjal posts under many different handles, and may even be Tulpa. MikeM is convinced he’s Weigel. He does seem to run the AddictionMyth handle.

          But yes, John, Fist, Gilmore and Ken are doggedly sticking over there. And MJG and Crusty. I understand Fist – he was created there along with the site – and I doubt John notices anyone’s left. Gilmore strikes me as the type that stakes his territory and stays there, but I’m surprised that Ken and MJG haven’t been around. Crusty I suspect thinks people were invited, and that he wasn’t, which sucks because I miss having him around.

          1. Volren

            idk about the others, but I’ve seen Crusty be invited publicly. I don’t want to step on any toes but I’ve never seen him be anything but dismissive of the idea of leaving or even criticism towards That Other Place.

          2. Old Man With Candy

            Meh, we believe in freedom of association. And there’s no exclusivity clause.

            Personally, I find him funny and clever.

          3. Swiss Servator

            I wish Crusty would come here too. But he seemed quite dismissive of our move.

          4. Rufus the Monocled

            ” and I doubt John notices anyone’s left.”

            Lol.

          5. sssbobbyr

            and I doubt John notices anyone’s left.

            Now that is funny.
            I didn’t really mind John. I could ignore him when he would get out of breath with his own argumentation. But he did always seem like a legitimate representation of the republicans who could at least consider libertarian ideas.

            I think I just know several John types.

          6. Rufus the Monocled

            That’s how I view John – he’s at least well-read and informed. He doesn’t bother me all that much.

          7. GSL in E

            This is where I’m at too. He’s not an idiot, and not a troll, and not generally arguing in bad faith. You just have to be able to tune him out when he starts ranting.

            That said, I’ve never been the target of any of his rants, so I understand others feeling differently.

          8. jesse.in.mb

            If you’ve been tuning him out when he starts ranting then you’ve missed that he’s a troll. And that he argues in bad faith. He regularly ascribes positions that are clearly not held and goalpost moves like a mofo.

            Actually the Red Tony comparison is pretty apt. If you catch Tony posting on a dead thread when he thinks nobody is looking he can be interesting and insightful, but he seems capable of setting people into a frenzy with minimal intellectual effort on any one of his pet subjects.

          9. I am in the sssbobbyr (which looks fabulous in Cyrillic сссбоббыр, by the by), Ruthless the Monocled, and GSL in E Camp.

            ‘Smores and Poutine, gents?

          10. 11H1P, Professional Beach Bum

            The Cyrillic looks awesome. Also, I concur with those who concur. Does ‘Smores and Poutine actually mean black spiced rum? If so, I am in.

          11. sssbobbyr

            Looks like a good boat name.
            If you really don’t like bridgetenders and harbor masters.

      2. SQWRLZ

        Especially when DenverJ provokes it. Like every fucking time.

        1. DOOMco

          good times.

  35. trshmnstr

    Greasonable set up a repo for further development of Monocle and other super secret projects. There are some improvements made to the script (greasonable is much better at this than me!), and this should be a more permanent link for folks to get the latest version as it comes out.

    Link

    1. DOOMco

      Good work, seriously.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Good stuff. Thanks!

    3. Max Coins

      Clicking this link gives me a warning on Chrome that “Apps, extensions, and user scripts cannot be added from this website.”

      Do you have any advice on this?

      1. waffles

        Yo tambien.

      2. trshmnstr

        Download it to your desktop and drag it on top of an open window of Chrome. I believe that will allow you to do it. (Somebody who runs Chrome may be able to give you better advice)

        1. trshmnstr

          I may have been working from outdated info. Looks like you can just enable developer mode in the extensions setting and then you can directly click the link and install it.

          More info

      3. commodious spittoon

        Go to //chrome/extensions/ in a new browser window, drag and drop the file you downloaded from the link into the page. Then refresh glibertarians. Worked for me.

        1. Max Coins

          This worked. Thanks!

    1. Glitterstorm

      How much stock do you take into pendulum politics?

      1. I’m long, and looking to expand my holdings.

        1. How are you about pendulous politics? Going….

          *drops scrubs*

          Long?

  36. Zero Sum Game

    This is fascism

    Well-written and good food for thought. Wading into it and gaining any sort of clear perspective is very difficult, and the word is probably meaningless now given that everyone wants to own its meaning and hurl it at everyone else.

    1. Glitterstorm

      See my co-worker does this. Everything he doesn’t like is Fascism, period. Doesn’t matter if the other party might have some legitimate points or views. He’s gone nuclear since Hillary lost man. I used to respect him for being smart but he’s just devolved into a “literally shaking mess”. Good news is he’s now into gun rights.

      1. DOOMco

        funny how that works.

        1. Glitterstorm

          It is. He’s openly admitted to being wrong about Obama, finally.

          1. commodious spittoon

            So does he call Obama a fascist now, too?

          2. Glitterstorm

            No he thinks Obama was outside of that but he bred a culture of it because “middle America yokels who watch too many war movies”.

    2. Suthenboy

      Actually, this is fascism:

      http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/228836-obama-auto-bailout-was-the-right-thing-to-do

      And this:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008

      Most of what people use the word for these days is nationalism, extreme intolerance or some form of radicalization.

    3. mr simple

      It is a good read, but I disagree with using Trotsky to call Fascism right wing or say they went after “worker’s movements.” Aside from the fact that right and left have no clear deliniation anymore, the Fascists called themselves the third way, not of the left or right.

  37. Warty

    Please: no NSFW images or gifs.

    WHAT THE FUCK THIS ISN’T WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR

    1. Swiss Servator

      Never fear, Warty, we have Thicc Thursdays!

      1. Hyperion

        “Never fear, Warty, we have Thicc Thursdays!”

        And SF stories. Is there really anything in a NSFW image that could shock anyone in the way a SF story could? I think not.

        1. Wait until Dr. ZG and I roll out our tentative, “Medical Mondays”…

          With fotos. Truth is often more strange (and revolting) than fiction.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Those spikes for prostate cancer? Go on…

          2. These? Or these?

            Or are you asking about a rigid cystoscope for Fist of Hypertrophy?

          3. Playa Manhattan

            I hate you for making me look this up.

            Here:
            http://www.nature.com/pcan/journal/v9/n4/images/4500893f1.jpg

          4. I hate you for making me look this up.

            Heheh, sucker! Wimp, too. I braved my wife doing my vasectomy, and you here you are shrinking violet on medical procedure fotos.

            From which abstract is that? That, admittedly for me, is a new one.

          5. Hyperion

            I’m really going to try hard to not see that. I saw an episode of ”My 600 Pound Life’ once, and that was enough for me. I’m so done.

          6. Heroic Mulatto

            Medical Mondays and Thicc Thursdays need not be mutually exclusive if dedicated towards an examination of the cosmetic surgeon’s art.

          7. Amazing what can be done with carpenter’s silicone and pelvic spackle, no?

    2. JW

      We need a room called Glibhub.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        No, we don’t. It will be all photos of jesse and los doyers’s dicks.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Have I been summoned?

          *unzips*

          1. Old Man With Candy

            AGGGGGGHHHHH!! I’M BLIND!!!!!!!

            I’m not used to seeing adult ones.

  38. Swiss Servator

    I remembered something for those in the press that think they are living in harrowing days….

    Anecdote #243 [Frank Wilkerson] of the Oxford Book of Military Anecdotes:

    On one of those six Cold Harbour days, when my battery was in action, I saw a party of horsemen riding towards us from the left. I smiled as the absurdity of men riding along a battle-line for pleasure filled my sense of the ridiculous; but as I looked I saw that the party consisted of a civilian under escort. The party passed close behind our guns, and in passing the civilian exposed a large placard, which was fastened to his back, and which bore the words, ‘Libeller of the Press’. We all agreed that he had been guilty of some dreadful deed, and were pleased to see him ride the battle line. He was howled at, and the wish to tear him limb from limb and strew him over the ground was fiercely expressed. This man escaped death from the shot and shells and bullets that filled the air. I afterwards met him in Washington, and he told me that he was a newspaper war correspondent, and that his offence was in writing , as he thought, truthfully, to his journal, that General Meade advised General Grant to retreat to the north of the Rapidan after the battle of the Wilderness.

    [a footnote reads; the correspondent was Edward Crapsey of the Philadelphia Inquirer. General Meade later claimed that his punishment delighted the army ‘for the race of newspaper correspondents is universally despised by the soldiers’.]

    1. Glitterstorm

      Big fucking balls

    2. The Fusionist

      You should have seen what happened to some of the *editors.*

  39. Cuffy Meigs

    And as we head into the bottom of the ninth, it’s the Glibs 197, the Noids 146. Leading off for the Noids is John K. The Noids’ second baseman is batting .137 with a ground-out, two strikeouts and a hit by pitch. The windup…the pitch…strike one. John is jawing with home plate umpire Chemjeff…now he’s back in the box…the 0-1 pitch…strike two! And now John is really going at it with Chemjeff! Noids manager Gilmore is out of the dugout and standing between Chemjeff and John, trying to keep his struggling second baseman in the game while giving Chemjeff a piece of his mind…the 0-2 pitch…STRIKE THREE! And John is out of control! Both benches have cleared and there is pandemonium in H&R Memorial Stadium!

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Thank you for this. I’m bookmarking for posterity.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Jesus Christ, that argument they had in Shackford’s “Make that flower bouquet” article.

        1. Rhywun

          Dayum! Missed that. You know, I appreciate a lot of his comments but holy crap can he be an asshole at times.

          1. Viking1865

            “Dayum! Missed that. You know, I appreciate a lot of his comments but holy crap can he be an asshole at times.”

            Yep, that’s exactly my take on him.

        2. Juvenile Bluster

          Goddamn. Go Shackford.

          1. jesse.in.mb

            It’s been open season him since then. Playa linked back to it in a later thread and John lost his shit.

          2. Rhywun

            I guess his night isn’t complete until he totally ruins a thread.

          3. DEG

            Instead, why don’t we talk about AC? The talk would be much more enjoyable.

          4. Swiss Servator

            Agile Cyborg would be most welcomed here!

  40. Getting my first comment moderation outta the way, also thought I saw someone mention a plugin that made adding links, formating text, quoting, etc.. easier, anyone know anything about any of that?

    1. DOOMco

      Trsh is the man. he had a link somewhere above us.

  41. Juvenile Bluster

    So I saw this in the news from the Fort Lauderdale suburbs, not overly far from where I am:

    Residents reported hearing a loud boom in Weston Friday night.
    Officials with Broward Sheriff’s Office said it was related to a classified military exercise and that it was no threat to the public.

    Not sure *what* to think here.

    1. Glitterstorm

      You know Coolidge believed in aliens right?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        So the military blew up an alien spaceship? Sweet.

        1. Glitterstorm

          We X Com now

  42. Zero Sum Game

    I don’t know how many of you avoid Twitter for the stinking, festering hole that it is, but Julian Assange actually created his own account and has become pretty political. Probably in response to the attacks on him.

    Anyway, here’s an article he linked about the conflict of interest that Bezos’s ownership of WaPo and his simultaneous contract worth $600 million with the CIA.

    Demonizing Russia: Fake News And The Conflict Of Interest Involving Amazon, The Washington Post, And The CIA

    1. Glitterstorm

      God damn!

    2. Suthenboy

      “As a leading American publication, the Washington Post has earned an air of legitimacy…”

      I almost passed out I laughed so hard. It’s a fucking pinko propaganda rag. I wouldn’t wipe my ass with it.

  43. Swiss Servator

    Damn….for some reason I just thought about this: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-12730718

    I knew him before he took on the job.

    Now I am sad, and going to go have a glass of bourbon and remember him from better times.

    Shit.

    1. DEG

      Sorry Swiss.

      1. Swiss Servator

        He was a good dude. When the Taliban were rampaging up the Panjshir Valley, he and his family took in hundreds – he let people stay on his land to farm and support themselves. Everyone in the area called him “Maulana”….revered or respected figure.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          Well, clearly that couldn’t last.

          Damn.

    2. This Machine

      Requiescat in pace, Sayedkhili.

  44. Hyperion

    What is this I hear? Night Links?

  45. westernsloper

    Thanks for creating this. As I lurked a day or two, it was good to read the contributions/posts by the commenters that made me keep going back to you know where. I have learned more about libertarianistickology from the people who post here than whats it place.

    1. 2ndClassProle

      Same here.

    2. Suthenboy

      Wow everyone is coming over.

      Good to see you here westernsloper.

      1. Hyperion

        I fear that a few good souls are still stranded in the dark, Suthen. Well, hopefully they will eventually find their way over.

      2. westernsloper

        Thanks Suthen. I wasn’t sure if Yokels were welcome, but it was getting ugly over there, so I risked it. I live on the edge.

        1. Cheer up. You are not alone, westernsloper.-)

  46. Hyperion

    Glibertarians, I present you news from other lands. (damnit I hope this works, I’ve never SF’d a link before, I swear! This no preview stuff is frightening).

    How to get rich in Brazil

    1. Hyperion

      Oh, and HT to Missus Hyperion for that.

    2. DEG

      Grieg for the soundtrack. Nice.

      The video is good. I’m reminded of a Heinlein quote:

      ā€œThe profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man.
      But it’s lovely work if you can stomach it.ā€

      1. Hyperion

        I believe there are a few progs who could benefit from reading that quote. Oh who am I kidding, they would get nothing from it and look upon you suspiciously for providing it.

        1. DEG

          look upon you suspiciously for providing it.

          So no difference from today.

      2. Rhywun

        Heh, I didn’t play the video until after I read the Heinlein quote & immediately thought “politician”. Or “sociopath”. But I repeat myself.

    3. This Machine

      Get off “scotch free,” huh?

      1. Hyperion

        Cachaca free.

        1. This Machine

          Great vid, though, no bullshit. You alllus were a good ‘un, Hyp.

      2. commodious spittoon
    4. westernsloper

      While watching that, I could only think how Brazil and the US are the same.

      1. Hyperion

        I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!

      2. commodious spittoon

        Dunno, we could do with more Brazilian chicks.

        1. westernsloper

          Good point.

    5. Swiss Servator

      *Paging Los Doyers, Los Doyers to the Red Courtesy Phone*

      1. Los Doyers

        There’s no such thing as “getting rich in Brazil,” unless you’re in the organ trade.

        1. You don’t say…

          Hmm.

  47. Playa Manhattan

    Guys, if you want some serious discussion with heavy hitters like John, Dajjal, and Palin’s Buttplug, I highly recommend a website called Reason.com. They’re all in the comments, right now, as I type this.

    1. Hyperion

      Looks like AmSoc is at least 50% of the comments on the latest thread. No one even replies to it and it goes on and on and on.

      1. Swiss Servator

        Did anyone ever figure who took over that handle?

        1. MikeS

          I can’t believe AmSock got AmSoc to stop posting. And AmSock turned into a normal, intelligent person after AmSoc stopped.

          1. Hyperion

            I don’t even know what you just said.

          2. MikeS

            The current american socialist (AmSock) is not the original american socialist (AmSoc).

          3. Hyperion

            It’s hard for me to tell. I’ve only seen a white space between comments for months.

    2. Rhywun

      Cool – a fresh take on how Trump is like the worst libertarian evar.

      1. Rev. Blue Moon

        I really got pissed when they let Suderman write two-a-days with tears in his eyes about what a big meanie face Trump is.

        I didn’t expect much from Mainstream outlets. They were going to hate {Republican} from the jump. But Reason really got on my nerves this election, to the point where I didn’t direct my 2016 charitable donation to them (I gave it to MedFlight).

    3. Swiss Servator

      *guzzles last of drink and swears not to go there*

    4. Suthenboy

      Oh, C’mon, John is not bad. He makes good points now and then and can be quite insightful.

      *Poker face….wheels turning*

      Ok, he’s not THAT bad. It’s not like we have never learned anything from him.

      *More poker face*

      Ok, maybe he has a little oppositional defiant personality traits and can be quite tedious at times but he does contribute. Seriously. There is no fun or anything to be learned in a bubble.

      *Drums fingers*

      Do I have to resort to the old ‘free speech means defending speech you dont like’?

      Someone should invite him over.

      1. commodious spittoon

        At the very least he wouldn’t have a cabal of editor conspirators to rail against for their shiftlessness in the face of tyranny.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        Someone should invite him over.

        For the love of god, no.

      3. This Machine

        Honestly, I like John. I really do. He’s more-or-less a well-articulated guy who at the very least can state his positions well. When it comes to stuff he sympathizes with, he breaks it down really well. But when it comes to one of his pet peeves-

        Good gugumugou, when it comes to one of his pet peeves…

        1. commodious spittoon

          After the Shackleford incident, I’m about done with him. I’m sure he thinks he has the point of his argument wedged somewhere up his ass, and maybe thinks if he roots around in there long enough he’ll find it, but it’s not fun watching him disappear up his own ass. And that’s where he got today. Scaling the cavernous depths of his asshole looking for that long lost point.

          1. Suthenboy

            I just now saw the Shackleford incident. Wow.

            I used to butt heads with John in the early days but that tapered off. In the last couple of years I never let him get under my skin and I ended up agreeing with him about half the time. As This Machine says when he is right, he is right and articulates well, but by God when he is wrong….

          2. commodious spittoon

            There’s something to be said for good faith. I like the idea. Nobody’s trying to deceive you or get around behind your back, nobody’s trying to pull one over on you. It’s a simple exchange of ideas, and one attempts to rebut what the other has said. Yes, that’s a bit naive, but John immediately notches it up past eleven because, clearly, anyone who disagrees is either a simpleton or a fraud. John has no sense of good faith. Which, I suppose, is just good practice for a lawyer. But it makes arguing with him a chore.

          3. Francisco d’Anconia

            anyone who disagrees is either a simpleton or a fraud. John has no sense of good faith. Which, I suppose, is just good practice for a lawyer. But it makes arguing with him a chore.

            Which is exactly why I won’t acknowledge his existence.

            And it infuriates him. John, would implode and likely stroke out, if people would simply stop responding to him. He is a miserable human being who thrives on attention.

          4. commodious spittoon

            Well, in absolute fairness, aren’t we all?

            But most of us don’t make a chore of it.

            I hope.

      4. 2ndClassProle

        I have thought the same Suthen, but lately, he is just insufferable. Maybe if we have more articles on Porches and 20th Century history if would keep him satiated.

        Really wish Ken would come over. I love that little cunt.

        1. 2ndClassProle

          *Porsche*

          1. Suthenboy

            What is wrong with Porches? Mine has a really good view.

          2. I prefer a verandah or a lanai.

        2. Suthenboy

          Ken and Gilmore are great.

          OK, Gilmore is great.

          Ken, great most of the time, sometimes a thick cunt. But I like the guy.

          1. Hyperion

            AlmightyJB is someone I was thinking we should invite over. Ken… yeah, he’s ok. Remember that time he sort of freaked out because everyone changed their posting names to something with woodchipper? That was hilarious.

          2. Old Man With Candy

            You may have noticed that this is not an invitation-only site. šŸ˜‰

            That said, we’d have no hesitation banning anyone we identify as one of the trolls/griefers. No hesitation.

          3. Rev. Blue Moon

            never understood why The Homeland (which is what I am calling Place That Shall Not be Named from now on) was so hesitant about that.

          4. Hyperion

            “never understood why The Homeland (which is what I am calling Place That Shall Not be Named from now on) was so hesitant about that”

            I think that crayon caused the registration to finally happen. Also think that shreek almost got banned once while posting as PBP.

          5. DOOMco

            glad I made the cut.

          6. I think that crayon caused the registration to finally happen.

            No, HURR DURR crayon didn’t cause The Registrationing; that honour goes to a one Jason Godesky, AKA, White Indian. Yes, The Paleface Protohuman, The Albino Aboriginal, that guy.

            never understood why The Homeland (which is what I am calling Place That Shall Not be Named from now on) was so hesitant about that.

            One of the things I will give TPTSNBN(tm), as you call, “The Homeland,” TAO, is their commitment to Free Speech, and giving us and anyone else (with some glaring exceptions *cough* Draw Mewhammad *cough*) a forum to say pretty much anything one wanted.

            Until they found they had to batten down the hatches and tamp down their borders, as they eventually found that a desirable area with absolutely no restrictions comes unmanageable headaches and people who will drop their trousers and shit right on your shoe and dare you to swing at them. It’s analogous to the NAP (or any other Ethos, really):

            It only works if everyone agrees to the same interpretation of it.

          7. Old Man With Candy

            glad I made the cut.

            That’s what my mohel said.

          8. Playa Manhattan

            The guy who griefs is Nathan. Expect more goodies to follow.

      5. Hyperion

        I don’t really have a problem with John and he’s overall been civil with me. But I have noticed a few times he gets sort of hateful with the writers over there, which is really uncalled for. I don’t get it. I’ve been quite critical of some of the articles and the over obsession with Trump for the last year. But getting personal with the writers like that, not cool.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          From a libertarian perspective, some of the writers (or bloggers, I should say) deserve shit. Shackford isn’t one of them.

          John’s motives are pretty clear to me.

          1. Hyperion

            I remember you saying that yesterday evening, Playa, and then declining to comment on it. I won’t ask. But whatever it is, I sort of cringed the first time I saw him do that and wondered WTH the deal with that is.

          2. Rev. Blue Moon

            I think his motive is that he’s concern-trolling Reason for the attention.

            but I agree that he’s been disappointing when it comes to that very thing. he likes to knock down versions of arguments he bootstraps and then attributes to people with no reason to do so. the comment at Shackford is a prime example of this.

            now, all of THAT said, I do think Reason has more than a touch of the cultural Marxism they need to tone the fuck down, but John’s not the guy to get them to do it.

        2. Viking1865

          Yeah his fatal flaw is a huge heaping of Internet Tough Guy. He says shit to people that he would never say to their face.

      6. Playa Manhattan

        I used to enjoy reading John in 2009. Really enjoyed it, actually. He had a slow but steady decline, right up until the homopocalypse, and then he fell off the deep end.

        I haven’t heard him say anything insightful in at least a year, maybe more. He just flings shit like a chimp. No discussion, just shit.

        I think a lot of long-time commenters here have some nostalgia for 2009 John, but he’s long gone.

        1. Rhywun

          His obsession started making more sense to me once I figured out that he views gay people as little more than a sort of distraction to amuse him.

        2. Suthenboy

          I guess I haven’t paid close enough attention. I dont get to sit here and read and think like I used to…too much going on around here.

          Homopocalypse? How did I miss that? He freaked out over the gay marriage thing?

          1. Playa Manhattan

            It was a very long freak out.

            I generally don’t click on the wedding cake articles any more than I do the college campus crap. I know what’s going on, I disagree with it, and I don’t need an article a day to reaffirm that. But I would occasionally get texts or emails from other commenters saying
            “hey, look what John is doing now hahaha”. And when I looked at those comments…. just wow.

            He lost his fucking mind.

      7. Swiss Servator

        Someone should invite him over

        STRONG PASS.

        1. sssbobbyr

          I guess I should have read down a bit before posting above. Didn’t realise there was a john-athon going on.

      8. John Titor

        John raises good points often, and can be completely fine when he’s calm.

        The problem is that he’s a cunt personality-wise.

  48. Old Mans and Trail 2

    Hey everyone, whatcha all drinking? I’m sitting here in SoCal on flood watch and about ready to go outside and boogie board down the street. Sipping vodka cran right now.

    1. commodious spittoon

      My sister and her kids are doing the same in Goleta. Dunno what they’re drinking. I’m drinking box chardonnay. I hate chardonnay. Would much prefer viognier. But you can’t get that in a box.

      1. Old Mans and Trail 2

        I scored some Justin Sauvignon Blanc and it was really good for a $14.00 bottle. (30% off price at the local store)

        1. commodious spittoon

          Lookit Mr. Moneybags here, fourteen bucks for a bottle.

          1. Old Mans and Trail 2

            Life is good when all of the kids are detached from my wallet!

          2. MikeS

            I hate it when rich people rub it in your face.

          3. Playa Manhattan

            Unless they’re paying you to do it.

          4. Swiss Servator

            Go on…

          5. Rev. Blue Moon

            I do usually try to keep my grape juice purchases under $10, but sometimes going up to $15 is worth it. If you’re a fan of heavy reds, the thing I’ll pop as soon as I get off the hillbilly heroin is “Petite Petit”, which is 85% Sirah and 15% Verdot. Goes for about $15. It’s the heaviest Red I’ve had and it’s fantastic.

        2. Old Man With Candy

          Is it done is sort of a white Bordeaux style (i.e., rich)? Paso is a pretty warm area.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            Looked it up. 14.5%. Whoa.

          2. Old Mans and Trail 2

            Goes down good and the ladies like it. Over 18 ladies that is, so you might want to try Boones Farm or something along those lines OMWC!

          3. Rev. Blue Moon

            I’ll sometimes drink a bottle of Strawberry Hill while I’m mowing the lawn.

          4. Old Man With Candy

            It’s basically roofies.

            True story: one of the most popular cheap chardonnays among young women is Kendall-Jackson. Their secret is lowish acidity and keeping a little residual sugar. In any case, another winery (I think it was Rombauer) looked at that market and decided to do an upscale version for women who were a little bit older and had more money. Same basic formula, same cost structure, but instead of $15, they charge like $35-40 because of the desire in their target demographic for a higher perceived quality product. And they gauged it right, they sell the shit out of that wine to older professional women.

            So inevitably, in the industry, that wine is referred to as “Cougar Crack.”

          5. Playa Manhattan

            If anyone knows about roofies, it’s you.

          6. Old Man With Candy

            How do you think I roped SP into doing all this shit?

          7. Old Mans and Trail 2

            Yep. A perceived good wine is like crack to the over 30 woman demographic. It is the only reason I drink it. It is an important lesson to learn for single guys of all ages. Believe me, the only reason I care about this shit is I am single and over 50.

          8. Rev. Blue Moon

            ah ha ha. that story about simply repackaging Kendall-Jackson and selling it as something else is gold, Jerry.

          9. Old Man With Candy

            Unfortunately, SP/Mrs OMWC knows her wine. So I have to pony up for things like Cedric Bouchard.

          10. How do you think I roped SP into doing all this shit?

            Same way I got Dr. ZG to marry me:

            A terminal degree, Israeli diamonds, and (((Jew Gold))).

          11. Old Man With Candy

            My secrets exposed. Damn you Groovus, DAMN YOU.

          12. Swiss Servator

            Gold? Diamonds?!

            *perks up*

        3. Does New Zealand produce anything for export other than Sauvignon Blanc? It’s not my favorite white, and when I was at the liquor store yesterday, that’s all the NZ stuff they had.

          My current white is a Chenin Blanc from South Africa. Crisp, but a bit pricey.

      2. Old Man With Candy

        I fucking love Viognier. So far, I’ve been unimpressed with California examples- the best I’ve had were from the Sierra Foothills, but even those weren’t great. I’ve had a couple of good ones from Virginia, but they still don’t give me my fix. I used to buy Condrieu regularly (Pichon, Gaillard, Vernay), which truth be told is the only place on the planet where that grape does well, but it got “discovered” and the prices are now ridiculous. A couple of people in areas nearby have done a good job, but their vins de pays are almost the same price as The Real Thing.

    2. This Machine

      Chasing Becherovka with Yuengling.

      Shut up.

      1. Old Mans and Trail 2

        Dude!

      2. Swiss Servator

        Yinzer!

      3. DEG

        Yuengling is good beer.

        1. Hyperion

          Yuengling, heh. Good beer? I mean it’s ok for the price. I burned myself out on it back when I could either afford that or Bud or something even worse. I don’t think I could choke one down now, but again. I drank a LOT of it.

          1. DEG

            I’ve drunk a lot of it. I could still drink more of it. Unfortunately, I have none in the house right now. I have to go Massachusetts to get it. At least now I only have to go to the next state instead of waiting for when I visit my folks.

          2. Hyperion

            I’m not too far from where they make the stuff, so I can get it, cheap. Like $14 a case.

          3. GSL in E

            Yuengling … Eh. I went to college in Pittsburgh, and back in those days I thought it was fantastic. Fast forward a few years to when I knew a lot more about beer and hadn’t had a Yuengling in a decade: I spent a week in Maryland on a work trip in 2012, and on my one free evening of the trip, I ate at a bar near my hotel. The bar had Yuengling on tap, and for nostalgia I ordered one. Found it absolutely undrinkable.

        2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          Ying is the Coors of the east.

    3. Rhywun

      Vodka Dew but running out of Dew & might have to move to OJ.

      1. Old Mans and Trail 2

        That is a pro move, good choice!

        1. Rhywun

          I like the bubbles, though.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        I love Mountain Dew.

    4. Juvenile Bluster

      Only mixer in the house was orange juice, so we’ve got that and Tito’s Vodka.

      1. Old Mans and Trail 2

        Oh yeah, that works!

      2. Los Doyers

        What is this, a gay Sunday brunch?

        1. Rev. Blue Moon

          isn’t it always?

    5. one true athena

      my child is coming home from a school trip to Sequoia to west LA. They’ve still not made it back yet, hitting bad weather the entire way.

      1. Old Mans and Trail 2

        I hope he/she is okay. That is a brutal drive with these conditions.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          2 more commenters here from So Cal? Where?

          We’ll get you on the list. Our meet ups are usually meat and booze or just booze.

          1. Old Mans and Trail 2

            Deep behind the orange curtain. I have some buddies that coach hockey at Toyota Center in El Segundo so I get up that way every now and then when we go out. Usually some place on El Segundo, bunch of pool tables and mediocre food but a decent vibe.

          2. Los Doyers

            You *must* be talking about the Purple Orchid?

          3. Old Mans and Trail 2

            I want to say Stick and Stein?

          4. Los Doyers

            Hmm, never been. But as Playa said, our meet ups are the envy of all the land. Plenty of booze, sometimes food, and plenty of slapping.

          5. Old Mans and Trail 2

            Oh that is not it. Just looked it up and it closed in 2011.

          6. Old Mans and Trail 2

            oldmansandtrail2 at protonmail.com

            I’ll try to make it up for the next one.

          7. one true athena

            I’m in PDR/Mar Vista, so not far if you’re handle is true.

          8. Playa Manhattan

            If my handle is true? I’m so insulted!

            Planes were taking off to the east today, and my doormat is missing.

            Does that give me any credibility?

          9. one true athena

            You could live in Nebraska and pine for MB! But since you know the secrets of our rainy progtown, I believe you. *nods*

            I’m up for a meet-n-drink with y’all though, it’d be nice to be able to discuss politics without feeling like I have to watch every word.

        2. one true athena

          Must’ve been talking about it was good luck, he finally made it. They needed six hours just to get the group from the lodge out of the park to meet the bus. THen crawled the rest fo the way, I gather, but luckily didn’t get stuck in the Grapevine.

    6. westernsloper

      Bourbon , lime and soda. I need to hydrate.

      1. Old Mans and Trail 2

        Good choice! Its about 8pm here pst and I need to hydrate also. Gotta keep it going for several more hours.

    7. MikeS

      Empyrean Dark Side. Yummy

      1. Old Mans and Trail 2

        Okay that looks good. Added to the list, thanks.

        1. MikeS

          Breckenridge Brewery’s Vanilla Porter is also good. I can’t decide which one I like better

    8. Rev. Blue Moon

      no drinks for me – just had surgery to repair a deviated septum, a nasal turbinate reduction (I think that’s what you say), and had a tonsillectomy / adenoidectomy, so I am just loaded on painkillers and joy.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Speaking of painkillers and joy, did anyone invite AC?

        1. Swiss Servator

          Would he recognize an invitation?

          1. commodious spittoon

            He found Reason, so… wait, how did he find Reason?

          2. Rev. Blue Moon

            I know you guys ironically enjoy AC, but I never found his navel gazing while on acid schtick all that entertaining. but hey to each his own.

          3. Rhywun

            Me neither. I had to block it after a while.

          4. commodious spittoon

            Considering the parasites that found their way in and stuck around, AC was refreshing. He was Jim Breuer from Half Baked, tolerable despite being useless.

          5. DEG

            It depends on many cum jizzles we use to infect his mind.

      2. Old Mans and Trail 2

        Had some fun in the 80’s??? Man, that is a rough go hope you feel better soon.

        1. Rev. Blue Moon

          I wish I had the pleasure of doing the fun before needing the surgery.

          No, my tonsils started basically giving be a cold year round, and I snore (and came up negative for apnea), so I needed the rest of it done for that. Doctor said you can do it in stages and be miserable at each stage OR do it all at once, gut it out and be done forever.

          I am actually healing up better than I thought. Thanks for the well wishes.

          1. Swiss Servator

            Bang down them painkillers and sleep as much as you can.

          2. Rev. Blue Moon

            I guess [i]technically[/i] I’m drinking something called “Magic Mouthwash”, which is 1/3rd Lidocaine, 1/3rd Benadryl, and 1/3rd Maalox. Of interest to you, Swiss, it numbs your throat, so imagine the possibilities for that side hustle you have!

          3. Rev. Blue Moon

            ok are there html tags allowed and what are they?

            I’m going to need to get another damn plugin aren’t I?!

          4. Rev. Blue Moon

            test test test
            test test test

          5. DEG

            Get well soon!

            I had my tonsils out when I was in my 20s. Pain the ass to recover.

          6. Rev. Blue Moon

            Thanks for both the tags and the well-wishes?

            Were you also in Unspeakable Location before the Exodus? I don’t recognize the username. Then again, I signed off of there for about the last year or so…

          7. Rev. Blue Moon

            ergh, remove “?” above, DEG

          8. DEG

            Yes I was. I used the same handle. I didn’t post all that often.

          9. Playa Manhattan

            Look into the PPSV vaccine too. I woke up every morning with a “cold” too, but I tested negative for every allergy. Turns out it was an immune thing.

            You can do an antibody test to confirm if you want to shell out the cash, but it’s easier to just get the vaccine. It’s widely available.

          10. Rev. Blue Moon

            interesting! I will look into that, thanks!

          11. Playa Manhattan

            God dammit!!!

            I know you.

            Fuck your handle, it threw me off. And now my personal medical info is all over the internet.

      3. Francisco d’Anconia

        no drinks for me – just had surgery…so I am just loaded on painkillers and joy.

        THAT SHOULD NEVER STOP YOU!

        1. Rev. Blue Moon

          If I took a drink of alcohol right now my throat would probably rip out of my body and eviscerate my eyeballs as punishment.

      4. just had surgery to repair a deviated septum, a nasal turbinate reduction (I think that’s what you say), and had a tonsillectomy / adenoidectomy

        Holy Shit! At your age, TAO? Wise of you to avoid booze with CNS depressants.

        Jeepers, that is serious stuff and sincerely hope you got the good stuff! Godspeed on a full and speedy recovery!

    9. Francisco d’Anconia

      Margaritas

      1. Old Mans and Trail 2

        Get after it Frank, that was one of my options tonight. I passed on it though because the margarita mixer I had was crap and I forgot to throw it out after the last attempt at margaritas.

        1. Rev. Blue Moon

          we usually just call those, “blenders”, Fancy Face.

          1. MikeS

            So he has enough coin to pay $14/bottle for wine, AND he has a “margarita mixer.” Some guys just have it made.

          2. Old Mans and Trail 2

            That is what I get for trying to round out my drink game. Fuck you guys, I’m going back to Jamo on the rocks!

          3. Rev. Blue Moon

            hey I support the consumption of wine. I’m just at a loss as to how a “margarita mixer” is substantially different from a “blender”, which you could just send one of your manservants to this place we proles call “WalMart” and buy one for 10 American Dollars.

        2. Francisco d’Anconia

          Made my own.

          Tequila
          Triple Sec
          Lime juice (real lime)
          Agave

          Shaken

          Salted glass

          1. Old Mans and Trail 2

            Ok, I am stealing that

          2. Hyperion

            That’s they way I always make them. Don’t drink tequila too often, but that’s the best way to make margaritas.

          3. Francisco d’Anconia

            Grand Marnier is better than Triple Sec…but expensive.

          4. jesse.in.mb

            I’m a Cointreau partisan myself. GM is a little sweet for my preference.

          5. Old Man With Candy

            Another true alcohol story: Many years ago, I was in France with Wife #1. She was a rather pretentious “feminist intellectual” who prided herself on acing 5 years of French in high school and college. We were at dinner at a one star in Lyon with a couple French friends of mine. They had done all the ordering and dealing with the waitstaff through dinner. Come time for aperitifs, and Wife 1 insisted that SHE wanted to do the ordering. So she talked to the waiter to try to get a Grand Marnier. He stared at her and my French friends were in hysterics.

            “Why is he staring at me like that?”
            “You just ordered a large married man.”

          6. Playa Manhattan

            So she was talking about you?

          7. Old Man With Candy

            I was smaller in those days.

          8. Suthenboy

            OMWC – Your wife story reminds me of this:

            http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/francias/2877574?snl=1

          9. Old Man With Candy

            Not far off. Another time, I’ll tell my Paris stories.

          10. westernsloper

            I am partial to:

            Tequila
            Triple Sec
            Grand Marneir
            Sweet and sour mix
            Lime juice

            Shaken, salted rim

            That is summer time stuff though.

    10. Hyperion

      Perrier water. No alcohol at all today. Seriously, I haven’t drank much this week, or the last 2 weeks. Too much work. Maybe that is why I’m so boring as of late?

      1. Swiss Servator

        Don’t you have that backwards?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxSSDynaTYY

    11. DEG

      No booze for me right now. I think I’m getting sick. I should be off in bed.

      1. commodious spittoon

        The booze pickles the sickness. Don’t you know anything?

        1. DEG

          Black tea, lemon, honey, and whiskey is normally my preferred cold remedy, but right now, I need to get away from the computer and get some sleep.

          1. commodious spittoon

            Oh, that’s easy. Black tea, lemon, honey, whiskey, and a handful of benadryl tablets. YW

          2. DEG

            I could just go to sleep. I know. Crazy talk.

          3. commodious spittoon

            You lucky fucking bastard.

      2. Hyperion

        Ok, which one of these old perverts exposed their self?

        1. DEG

          Ok, which one of these old perverts exposed their self?

          Me.

      3. MikeS

        Isn’t the old saying; drown a flu, drown a cold? I’m pretty sure that’s it.

      4. Old Mans and Trail 2

        Jameson on the rocks. Works every time. Trust me.

    12. Suthenboy

      Sadly I had to hop on the wagon.

      1. Old Mans and Trail 2

        Sorry to hear that Suthen. If you fall off hopefully you are reaching for the last fifth on Jameson before it hits the trail.

    13. jesse.in.mb

      BF’s homebrew. I think it’s a DIPA or an attempt at one. I think it came in relatively low %. Damn tasty though.

    14. GSL in E

      Saison DuPont. And I live in Oregon, so you SoCal folks get no sympathy from me re rain in winter.

  49. westernsloper

    Was this covered today?

    And the no preview could be a problem. I usually fuck it up.

    Soda tax increases revenue and protects you. Trust me!

    1. Rhywun

      ā€œIt’s a beautiful way to tax people and make them think you’re doing them a favor.ā€

      I… can’t disagree.

    2. Rhywun

      Meanwhile here in NYC, the governor – who somehow has the power to swoop in and negate our laws – just saved us from a goddamn bag tax. All because the two of them have been locked in a cat-fight for the last three years.

      1. westernsloper

        The bag tax? They were going to tax Hillary?

        1. Rev. Blue Moon

          The “b” and the “h” are close to each other.

        2. Old Mans and Trail 2

          That is for sure a double bagger tax! One for her and one for you in case hers falls off!

          1. Hyperion

            +1 double wide pantsuit

          2. MikeS

            You just need to tie the handles reeeaaaal tight around her neck…so it doesn’t fall off

      2. Rev. Blue Moon

        yeah if the New York Legislature wants to overrule home rule, it can. this happens a lot in Ohio, too, where Cleveland or god forbid Columbus sometimes come up with some harebrained scheme and Kasich comes over the top to put an end to the nonsense.

        1. Rhywun

          And of course Cuomo’s all for the tax but he wants to study it some more take the credit for himself.

          1. Rev. Blue Moon

            and of course inflict it on the long-suffering people Upstate, who must be dragged into every oddball nonsense the City demands.

          2. Juvenile Bluster

            Having lived in upstate NY, it’s not just Cuomo. Albany has always only cared about Westchester County and points south and east. Albany doesn’t even care about Albany.

          3. Unfortunately, those people are moving farther and farther north. They’re well into Ulster County by now, thanks in no small part to the SUNY school in New Paltz.

    3. Suthenboy

      I am calling bullshit on that. I have been hearing about soda sales dropping for several years now. The explosion of diabetes and the realization that the medical profs have been lying to us for years about the connection with sugar is what is killing soda sales. How many buckets of sugar in the average soda? That shit is just bubbly syrup. I quit drinking it twenty years ago. A guy I know simply quit drinking soda and lost 60lbs in a couple of years. He was preaching to everyone he met about it.

      Healthy consumption of soda = about one per month. The trouble is that once you get down to that level you forget about that shit and get in the habit of drinking water.

      Jennie is just trying to convince us that proggie social engineering methods work after all and it is for our own good. Go sit on a sharp stick Jennie.

      1. Rhywun

        Unfortunately, water is a shit mixer. Yeah, I know there are other options…

        1. Rev. Blue Moon

          embrace the diet tonic water my friend

          1. Suthenboy

            I got acid reflux by just reading that Groovus

        2. Suthenboy

          “Water is a shit mixer”

          Tsk, tsk, tsk.

          Mixers only came into being during prohibition when the quality of booze went to shit. before that people didn’t really use mixers.

          Now you know why I had to get on the wagon.

      2. Hyperion

        Jennie’s just the media mouthpiece for proggie social engineer that wants more funding. ‘Hey look, it worked! And we’re combating global warming at the same time!’. Don’t asked me about the logic of the global warming part, there is none, but it’s a prerequisite these days if you really want more funding, no matter if your project is about endangered frogs or bringing back a wooly mammoth. Seriously, I’m not making that up:

        Let’s bring back a mammoth and save the planet!

        “Church, a guest speaker at the meeting, said the mammoth project had two goals: securing an alternative future for the endangered Asian elephant and helping to combat global warming. Woolly mammoths could help prevent tundra permafrost from melting and releasing huge amounts of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere.

        ā€œThey keep the tundra from thawing by punching through snow and allowing cold air to come in,ā€ said Church. ā€œIn the summer they knock down trees and help the grass grow.ā€

        Oh, please STFU, you morons.

        1. Rev. Blue Moon

          it’s amazing to me that eliminating permafrost and rehydrating the deserts is somehow a bad thing to these people. when I hear that the permafrost might melt, my first reaction is not “oh noes gotta keep that productive biome in tact”

          1. Hyperion

            It’s very sad, the level of disingenuous pseudo babble that so called science is sinking into. It’s like the entire science community is now held hostage by a bunch of religious nutbags. We’re going to back to the days when the church executed people for not saying that the earth is at the center of the universe. And the thing about some overly hysterical luddite whining and hand wringing over the prospect of creating an elephant/mammoth hybrid. Because the things are gonna go crazy and wipe out humankind? No, because the creature might have mommy issues! Fuck!

        2. sssbobbyr

          Science!

  50. Lucie Furr

    Getting my first Mod post out of the way. Just wanted to say hi and thanx to all who put this rig together. I’ll make myself at home over here in the corner cuz I prefer to watch. I like the new digs! *pours a bourbon over ice and settles in*

    1. Rev. Blue Moon

      so are you a female furry Satan worshiper? Just trying to get a feel for the audience here.

      1. Hyperion

        There’s no such thing as a female libertarian. Everyone knows this. Maybe it’s trying to trick us and then sacrifice us to the devil. Be careful. It will turn you into a toad, it will!

        1. Rev. Blue Moon

          maybe it’s a trap. Deirdre McCloskey perhaps

    2. Swiss Servator

      Bourbon? Good choice.

  51. Lucie Furr

    Yes I’m female. I don’t worship anything. Except maybe Heroic Mulatto.

    1. Swiss Servator

      As do many of us. Male or female.

    2. Hyperion

      “Except maybe Heroic Mulatto.”

      Ok, HM, you can stop pretending to be the devil woman now.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Look, HM posts the goodies. If HM’s new avatar posts the goodies, that’s still goodies. I say we embrace the HM goodies, whatever their provenance.

        1. DEG

          Hear Hear!

      2. John Titor

        Remember, his job is to educate young minds. Is it really a stretch to think he’s brainwashing young women into an endless twerking cult?

      3. Heroic Mulatto

        You’re my Steam buddy, Hyp. You know I was playing Stellaris for the past few hours.

        1. Hyperion

          You’re still playing that? I have ADHD or something, I can’t play games for more than 100 hours or so.

          1. DOOMco

            *hides BF4 info*

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            Took a break to play the shit out of Endless Legend. On a whim, I decided to fire up Stellaris again and I’m in the middle of a good campaign with my Octopus People No Fucks Given to Anything but Profit Mega Corporation which rule about a quarter of the galaxy now. The Utopia expansion is coming out soon, so I figured I get in the mood.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            Jesus, are we gaming twins?

            I loved that one of the preset Stellaris races was libertarian land otters.

            Still trying to decide if I’ll sink more time into Endless Legend. I enjoy it, but it’s the type of game I OCD hard on.

          4. Heroic Mulatto

            To be honest, I only took a break from EL because because after 3 years, I still don’t know how to play the Ardent Mages. They’re the only faction I haven’t won a game with.

          5. jesse.in.mb

            I just got started with the game, Played the Wild Walkers and thought it was pretty straight forward and then played the Allyia (spelling) and was crippled by growth issues. They seem to have done an excellent job making the races unique and interesting.

    3. one true athena

      Lady libertarians unite! or maybe we should untie?

      — no wait that’s probably not wise in this crowd. I take it back

      1. commodious spittoon

        Lady libertarians

        Wait, I see where you fucked up.

        1. Hyperion

          /why there are no female libertarians

        2. one true athena

          They told me white wine would make me a lady, as long as it wasn’t from a box. Was it all a lie??

          1. Old Man With Candy

            What snob told you that?

          2. commodious spittoon

            Okay, listen, you, the wine is cheap, it’s plentiful, and most importantly, it’s cheap. And at least it’s not Moscato. It’s dry. Dry means sophisticated. So you just remember that when a man offers you a glass of box wine. It’s not fruity. It’s effete.

          3. Rev. Blue Moon

            boxed wine is just like the hate for artificial cork: an elevation of an old format simply because it’s old and therefore more sophisticated. there’s nothing wrong with boxed wine and it should be more prevalent, IMO.

          4. commodious spittoon

            In fairness, if I were truly as cheap as all that, I’d buy the black box of bottom-shelf, really cheap shit. But I buy the upper-shelf box with the trim, because I think it’s classy.

          5. jesse.in.mb

            So oakey

      2. Francisco d’Anconia

        Lady libertarians unite!

        *Fd’A giggles*

      3. Lucie Furr

        Speaking of lady libertarians, did Hamster of Doom make it over? What about Mythical Libertarian Woman?

        1. DOOMco

          HoD is Jo. afaik MLW is her as well.

          1. Lucie Furr

            Thanks! Is Jo Athena too?

          2. jesse.in.mb

            Nyet. Jo is only Hamster of Doom.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            Lies.

            Jo is every woman.

        2. HayekExplosives has made her presence known, and Banjos, of course.

          My wife is attempting to read the site with machine translation, but she is a Recovering Communist at best.

  52. __Warren__

    Pretty fair story of the cash-only docs that have been profiled at Reason. Nice to see them get more exposure. Also I’m certain it made some people very mad.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/these-oklahoma-doctors-are-cutting-surgery-costs-by-as-much-as-90-percent-879929411555

    1. Hyperion

      Yeah, these doctors are going to find themselves ‘illegal’ soon enough. The medical industry is one of the most cronyized clusterfucked dinosaurs around.

      1. __Warren__

        They’ve been going for awhile now. I think they’ve built up some pull with the Okie pols to the point it won’t be so easy to knock them out. Plus the idea is spreading and if this new administration takes a hands-off approach the idea may well be nigh-invulnerable to political meddling.

        1. Hyperion

          Should be interesting to watch. I hope it does survive and spread.

        2. GSL in E

          This is one area where I’m cautiously optimistic about the new administration. Some very smart market-oriented people do seem to have their attention.

    2. Rev. Blue Moon

      I had a problem with my insurance for one of my pain medications. So I asked the girl at the pharmacy, “how much is it if I don’t go through insurance?”

      the pause on the phone lasted a good 10 seconds. she hadn’t dealt with that situation before.

      then she asked the pharmacy manager, who said they would sell it to me without going through the insurance company “as a one-time exception.”

      AS A ONE-TIME EXCEPTION? What the fuck? Why does the pharmacy give a shit? I’m paying you straight cash homie. Shut up and take my money!

      Astonishing.

      1. westernsloper

        They said that because it is cheaper if you don’t have insurance.

        1. Rev. Blue Moon

          ahh, thanks to both you and jesse as these answers make sense.

          I’ll just get straight-up cranky with them next time about cash, then. the “one time exception” sounds like a company policy that can be waived, so they can either take cash or I can take my business elsewhere.

          1. jesse.in.mb

            You might be able to find a place that more readily accepts it, but it sounds like the guy was offering to take on extra work.

      2. jesse.in.mb

        Nobody likes having to dig out the paperwork for an unusual financial class. It’s just weird hearing that cash is an unusual financial class.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      You should see how Canadians addicted to universal health care react when you offer private options and solutions to the chronic problems it faces.

    4. GSL in E

      Unsurprising, of course, that letting medical care function like a market has the effect of raising quality and lowering prices. If it worked with LASIK, it really should work elsewhere.

    5. No transcript?

  53. sssbobbyr

    The thimble is out

    What will it be replaced by?
    Cat Lady Glasses
    Knitted Pussy Hat
    Empty Pantsuit

    1. Rev. Blue Moon

      I’m in on “V for Vendetta” Mask.

    2. Hyperion

      Asian chick with owl glasses

      1. commodious spittoon

        I won’t say she’s unbecoming but she’s just not that comely, man.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Is there a specific Asian chick with owl glasses that I should know about?

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Somebody made a promise and posted a link, but it didn’t work.

            We’re not going to let it go.

    3. westernsloper

      I got ten bucks it is a little glacier shaped thing to remind us we are killing the planet and we will all die.

      1. MikeS

        Or a dead polar bear

    4. __Warren__

      The buttterchurn? Floral sunbonnet? Sandwich making supplies? Douche?

      1. westernsloper

        Or one of those vagina fruit things in Warrens pic.

  54. DOOMco

    Man, I leave to play BF1 and come back to 500+ comments. good going, people.
    whizbang from New Belgium for me, soon a stone go to ipa.

    1. commodious spittoon

      What’s your steam ID?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        NERD

        1. commodious spittoon

          YOU’RE THE NERD

          *sobs into elbowpit*

          HE’S the nerd!

          1. DOOMco

            there there.

          2. jesse.in.mb

            He’s a huge geodude. Ask him about it sometime.

      2. DOOMco

        coloraDOOM on steam, Duetothe802 on origin.

        1. Hyperion

          NERD! I bet now you’re going to post your system specs!

          1. DOOMco

            I wish I had a 1080.

          2. Hyperion

            I’m skipping that one and waiting for the 1080ti.

          3. DOOMco

            I might spring for it at some point. I still do okay with the 970.

          4. Hyperion

            I’m running two of those in SLI. Next card is seriously a single 1080ti. SLI is such a pain in the ass. Would be ok if there were more games that properly supports it.

          5. DOOMco

            That’s the only reason I have one. the 1080 is a huge difference. I didn’t even realize they were going to make the ti.

          6. Hyperion

            Yeah, that’s the rumor. 12G of Vram, so I hear.

    2. Hyperion

      I was playing ARK Survival evolved, but then I rage quit for a few days.

      1. DOOMco

        It’s fun, but yeah.

        1. Hyperion

          Well, there’s the brutal difficulty level when you start out. Then there’s the tamed dino disappearing bugs. Or there’s the part when you get stuck on a rock or tree when fleeing from a level 100 T-Rex and you were almost inside your base. Then there’s the 10 year olds telling you to ‘GIT GUD!’.

          1. DOOMco

            Private server. I’ll post our settings tomorrow.

          2. Hyperion

            I’m actually playing SP now. But yeah, I could get into that. Thanks.

          3. DOOMco

            We all got a little too fired up when it was stock. a few tweaks and playing alone becomes a lot better.

      2. DOOMco

        we run a server for out apartment. a few tweaks to help, there are only 3 of us.

  55. __Warren__

    So on my news today was a long presser wherein the “authorities” responsible for the Oroville dam situation patted themselves and each other on the back for the better part of an hour.

    I did not realize how heroic they’d been. How difficult the decisions were and how proud of each other they all were. What was glossed over was the fact that they gave out an evacuation order that was so worded to imply that the dam was going to come crashing down within the hour and thus created a major traffic jam which they could have been better prepared for…but instead of using both halves of the 99 to send people north they kept the southbound part closed until most of the trouble had abated.

    Also despite his claiming otherwise yesterday the sheriff admitted today that there was looting. Not much, to be sure, but some and they caught the idiots.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      So, did you get one of those new curved 4K LED HDTVs?

      1. __Warren__

        I hurt my back lifting it! Can I sue the store?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          In CA? 75% probably.

          1. __Warren__

            Actually…one of the few good things Pete Wilson did was sign a law preventing people who were hurt while engaged in felonious behavior from filing suit.

            MANSPLAINED!

          2. Playa Manhattan

            That’s not what your avatar says.

  56. bacon-magic

    No alt-text, no peace! *takes hitter and knocks on scotch bottle*

    1. DOOMco

      Get ’em!

  57. DOOMco

    and I’m still not in the steam group.
    *kicks pebble*

    1. The Fusionist

      Is that some kind of Finnish sauna where the cool kids hang out?

      Of course if it’s defined as a place where the cool kids hang out, it will be abolished if I ever join, and I appreciate that. šŸ™

      1. __Warren__

        Nah, you’re so cool that the icicles we stab you death with won’t melt.

      2. DOOMco

        gaming pc groups are cool, I suppose.

        1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          Let me know if you star running a red orchestra 2 server….

          1. DOOMco

            *nods*

  58. Francisco d’Anconia

    648

    We can do 700

    1. DOOMco

      what is this, a debate night thread?

      1. Francisco d’Anconia

        Got over twice the comments as the late night thread at H&R.

        I wonder if The Reason contributors are lurking?

        1. DOOMco

          *waves hello*

    2. Are you sure you want to join The 700 Club, Fd’A?

      1. Francisco d’Anconia

        I am healed. Praise Jesus.

        1. Swiss Servator

          *vigorous applause*

  59. bacon-magic

    Where is Agile Cyborg and why hasn’t he been a guest writer here yet?

  60. NoDakMat

    OT: Bacon Jerky is Deeeeelicious!

    Although, it’s hard to justify the price. We’re talking dollars per ounce. It’s ridiculous.

    P.S. Holy Crap! 647* comments! And at least one of them was a Futurama gif!!11!!! I almost wish I hadn’t spent all evening drinking beer and watching hockey! ‘specially since the good guys (defending National Champion North Dakota Fighting Siou… oops.. Hawks) lost.

    *Was a lurker at the site that shall not be named for several years; pretty sure they never got anywhere near 647!

    1. bacon-magic

      Yes…yes it is. *sizzles*

    2. DOOMco

      Hello and welcome.

    3. Francisco d’Anconia

      Back in the early Independents days they occasionally got 1000 posts.

      I suspect this is a honeymoon phase, but it’s nice to see so much support.

      1. NoDakMat

        I found that place accidently. It was in the early days of… gamer gate. I was in some other chat room and jackasses kept mentioning gamer gate, so I went to google. The article I clicked on happened to be from Reason. Turns out I didn’t then, and never have since, given the slightest fraction of a fuck about gamer gate. The weird part is, at the same time I was already starting to wonder about my law-and-order, national-security-trumps-all conservative values. When I began reading the Commentariat, I slowly realized I was a libertarian. Gamer gate lead me to that place, which, years later lead me here. And to this day I still don’t have any fucking clue, or care, what gamer gate was all about. *cue Allanis Morrisette*

        1. DOOMco

          I can’t recall the thing that brought me. My friend links to it often, so that might have been it.

          1. NoDakMat

            And please, excuse my manors. You bid me welcome up there and I went on a rant. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having all of us. Where I was going with that, and didn’t finish is, pretty much all of the Commentaritate that unknowingly nudged me in the right direction are right here, right now. To me, this site is a synthesis of the nagging voices that spoke to my unconsciousness. I was a wrote conservative. Deep down, I knew some of the things I argued for were wrong, because my best answer was “just because.” A lot of the people I see building this site are the people that unknowingly convinced me to loose the chains. To value true liberty, not state approved liberty.

          2. Zero Sum Game

            excuse my manors

            Look at Mr. Moneybags here. Bernie Sanders, are ya?

          3. NoDakMat

            You got me. I only have one manor, which is very un-libertarian. Now I have multiple sads, and that’s your fault.

            *I will state right here, right now (stop humming it in your head), I welcome all grammar Nazis. I grew up in a tiny town, ND school system. I realized years ago that I didn’t get as good an education as everyone thought we did. I appreciate lernin.

          4. Zero Sum Game

            A good sport, I like it.

            I genuinely do want fellow libertarians to go out into the world and sound the sharpest, argue the best, and be the most informed. I obviously can’t give anyone all that, and don’t have it all myself, but I hold my own and strive for more, and there are plenty around here that can offer a lot of insight.

            I also abhor the “language changes” argument. I consider that an invention largely created and pushed by the left with the ulterior motive of intentionally changing the language themselves to use it as a weapon in the culture wars. Fuck them, and fuck Merriam-Webster for turning into one of their whiny “descriptivist” suck-ass control-left mouthpieces.

        2. Francisco d’Anconia

          Similar. I thought I was a Republican till I was forty something.

          It was Atlas Shrugged for me…and it dawned on me that I never was. Just didn’t know that there were others who thought as I did.

          Not a real Rand fan now, but that’s what made me turn the corner.

          1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            How much sci fi did you read asa kid?

          2. Francisco d’Anconia

            None.

            Watched it. TOS. BSG. Buck Rogers. Star Wars…

            I’m not a big reader. 460 verbal. Wife got me to read Dune.

          3. butt-head

            That’s surprising. You write very well. (At least, I’ve never noticed your writing ability to be notably weaker than that of other commenters, who write very well.)

            But then, I don’t put much stock in SAT scores. Or the assumption that being / not being a bibliophile correlates strongly with writing ability.

          4. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            One of these days I’m going to do a study to confirm my suspicion that early exposure to hard sci fi, and enjoyment thereof, is a predictor of libertarian leanings

        3. mr simple

          I found it when Jonah Goldberg linked an article on NRO. I started reading and thought, “Wait, I can be for free markets and not have to support the wars on other countries or drugs?” Plus it enhances my contrarian cred.

    1. DOOMco

      That sucks.

        1. DOOMco

          What are you guys building on?!

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Poor infrastructure. All of the mazoolah went to the unions.

          2. DOOMco

            naturally.

          3. jesse.in.mb

            After it rains the pavement in my neighborhood sounds like eggshells when you drive over it and flakes off.

          4. DOOMco

            Be careful out there.

        2. one true athena

          I knew one of your links had to be this one! We were watching the coverage when this one went. At least the driver in the car beneath was already out of there. Crazy apocalyptic stuff out there today!

    2. Francisco d’Anconia

      Fuck me. What’s up with California? The earth just opens up and swallows mutherfuckerz?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        It swallows public employees.

        Not so bad, is it?

      2. Francisco d’Anconia

        So…yes…apparently.

  61. bacon-magic

    ????????????
    Here Agile, got some magic fungi for you.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      He needs coke. He’ll figure the rest out after that.

      1. bacon-magic

        Real coke or real cokeā„¢?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          The kind that makes you do dumb shit.

          1. bacon-magic

            Oh, the stuff with sugar. I never did dumb shit on coke, just peeked out windows.

      2. He needs coke.

        If opium and laudanum were good enough for the writer of, “Kubla Khan,” they’re good enough for Agile.

        bacon, those digital mushrooms make me want to play Super Mario Bros. for some odd reason.

        1. bacon-magic

          Life is a game. Eating shrooms digitally or orally still have the same effect.

  62. DOOMco

    Oh shit, we got a twitter up in here?

    1. bacon-magic

      I haven’t logged on Twitter in 6 months…that way lies trolls.

      1. DOOMco

        mine is the same way

        1. Francisco d’Anconia

          No tweeter…no facethingy…

          I’m a happy man.

      2. Zero Sum Game

        That’s been the only reason I do anything at all with Twitter. I figure, piss enough people off and the platform will collapse eventually. Doing my part to make Twitter suck balls.

        It’s a haven for a zillion stupid proggies, so you could say it’s a target rich environment for trolling.

  63. Francisco d’Anconia

    697

    1. Francisco d’Anconia

      Don’t think I won’t do this by myself

      1. Francisco d’Anconia

        YO, SF, YOU DID IT!

  64. Francisco d’Anconia

    I’m out…night

  65. Zero Sum Game

    Cosmo mag now giving advice on how to give a rusty trombone. Not even making that up.

  66. Zero Sum Game

    For anyone still up and interested, Milo was on Bill Maher. Funny, charismatic, held his own, and didn’t let Maher completely overrun him as he is wont to do.

    1. I’m still up. I keep strange hours. Thanks for the link.

      1. sssbobbyr

        Sounds, uhhh, interesting.

  67. Sour Kraut

    This must be the time, when the Europeans have the place to themselves.

    *sneaks into corner with hooker*

  68. Warty

    So, shit. This place is getting more action than the real site. I guess there was a market failure.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      We need government action to help Reason. Capitalism doesn’t work.

      1. Swiss Servator

        A Bailey Bailout?