We have a white nationalist administration in the White House. A conclave of priestly bigots, reactionaries, anti-semites, and racialists. And one of their chief objectives, along with forcing their misogynist and heteronormative world view on the country, is to keep out brown people. At no time has this been clearer than when they unveiled their new proposal for immigration reform.
This new ‘reform’ will prioritize so called ‘skilled immigrants’ who speak English above others. When I heard this proposal, I took it personally. My maid, Conchita, immigrated to this country from Honduras a few years ago. If she would have tried to immigrate under the administration’s new proposal, her lack of English proficiency or a skilled trade would have relegated her to the back of the line. Whose job does Conchita’s presence in this country threaten? What American would take her job to be paid eleven dollars an hour? In fact, before Conchita, I couldn’t even find anyone who would clean my home and watch my children for less than twenty-five dollars an hour. I couldn’t pay that and nor should I be forced to when there are immigrants like Conchita that are willing to work for less. I mourn the possible loss of opportunity for people like Conchita and myself, if this immigration ‘reform’ is passed.
Even more personally for me, though, is that this new bill has worried me about my oldest son’s future. My son, Tim, graduated from Stanford a few years ago and got a job working in computer engineering at a nearby manufacturer. He started out making a good salary, for a recent college graduate, and everything seemed to be going good for him. But over the past three years he hasn’t received a raise and he’s noticed that his company has started employing people who aren’t local. For instance, he told me that his new supervisor, Sanjay, just immigrated to the US from India. I’m happy that the company has brought diversity to their workforce, but I don’t understand why they had to import management. I don’t claim to be intricately familiar with the engineering profession, but Sanjay is a graduate of Mumbai University (hardly a well-known name within the engineering field) and yet he is supervising six other employees that have all graduated from Stanford, UCLA, and Boston College. I can’t help but think that Sanjay was hired because of the lower than average salary that he was willing to accept. To me, this is a dangerous precedent that not only suppresses wages, but also cheapens the expertise needed in these professional fields. Do we want to reduce the quality of engineers in order to save a few thousand dollars? If you’re OK with that, then would you say the same about accountants? Or architects? Or even doctors?
And besides the obvious skills deficit between a graduate of some foreign university versus our own renowned institutions, there is also the question of timing. Our college graduates today are burdened with high debt and struggle to find even entry level employment in their chosen fields. Why should we be making this situation even more difficult by importing ‘skilled immigrants’ that will undercut their wages and reduce their employment prospects? It’s one thing to have immigrants like Conchita who provide Americans with affordable service, but it is quite another to undermine American expertise. I had thought that we, as a country, had already come to this conclusion, before an uprising of drug-addled bigots in other parts of the country surprised me by electing a buffoonish racist.
We cannot allow this sinister piece of legislation to redefine our country. I say we allow in more Conchitas and less Sanjays. It’s just good economics.
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Opaque sarcasm is the best sarcasm.
I believe the saying is: there are no jobs that Americans won’t do, but there are wages they will not work for.
Incidentally-
Prof: ‘White hard worker mythology’ promotes white supremacy
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9545
A UW-Platteville professor says poor whites rely upon a “national white hard worker mythology” to deflect the blame for economic decline onto “problem people.”
The “myth,” according to Claudine Pied, allows working-class whites to blame “lazy, welfare-dependent substance abusers” for their economic woes while viewing themselves as “victims of deindustrialization.”
This guy is a piece of work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RSvFJqEdWk
A gun-loving, Bernie-hating communist with 2 jobs? Now I’ve seen everything.
That was Great Satire, or was it?
/whips off Sunglasses
Satire is best when it’s not obvious satire. Well done.
I’m reminded of a comedy bit, I forget by whom, Im sure one of you wonderful people can fill in, but it roughly goes “if someone with no education, no skills, no connections, and doesn’t even speak the native language can do your job, then maybe you shouldn’t be paid as well as you are.”
Maybe not what you were looking for but relevant.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QsPDT5qHtZ4
Why should we be making this situation even more difficult by importing ‘skilled immigrants’
Thanks for pointing out my favorite example of language imprecision to direct thinking imprecision. The conflation of “bringing in” with “allowing in” is a logic-destroying tool used by demagogues to make cheap debating points.
I believe in many cases of work permits/visas the worker is brought here as in the employer pays to relocate them. Or is that what you mean?
I was thinking more of State action rather than a private entity (whether an employer or a private aid organization), where my Inner Libertarian says, “They can spend their money any way they see fit.”
“We” implies public funds.
From photographic evidence, Sanjay got the job because he’s good at schmoozing. I mean, I want to get angry at his lack of expertise, but just look at the little guy!
Get Sanjay and commenter Bacon-Magic together. You got yourself a complete breakfast.
Video from Nigeria: Over 50 Christians massacred in church during Sunday service
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/video-from-nigeria-over-50-christians-massacred-in-church-during-sunday-service
Is it time for enhanced radiation weapons yet? I think it is.
Are you trying to contest LH for “most likely to jam links into post commentary” dominance?!?!
What’s that? You want me to post more links? OK.
British man surrenders so police would take unflattering mugshot off Facebook
https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2017/08/05/British-man-surrenders-so-police-would-take-unflattering-mugshot-off-Facebook/8641501974476/?utm_source=sec&utm_campaign=sl&utm_medium=1
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Aug. 5 (UPI) — A British man wanted on an assault warrant turned himself in to police so they would take down the unflattering mug shot of him posted on Facebook.
Wayne Esmonde, 35, replied to a Facebook post by the South Wales Police Department this week, seeking information on his whereabouts, a common tactic for police departments in the digital age.
“I am him. Not a very flattering mugshot,” Esmonde wrote. “I’d appreciate it if you’d take this post down. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.”
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You’re annoying SP. Trust me, you do not want to do that.
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I post whatever I think is interesting in whichever thread is active. If that’s not allowed, I’ll stop, although it will greatly reduce my commenting opportunities. I’m usually too busy to comment on the links posts when they are active. So that’s why I’ve been posting the way I have.
It’s not a matter of “allowed,” it’s plain old courtesy.
It’s certainly OK to toss it in Links- those are pretty much open anyway, and the nifty sidebar on the front page that SP set up directs people to most recent comments irrespective of whether or not the post being commented on is a few hours old.
I have to admit that I’m confused about the sin as well.
I like to add links to Minnesoda events in the comments when I find ones I think are funny. Am I urinating off SP too?
I thought that was Eddie’s bailiwick
Eddie and Derpy hit everywhere and everywhen, while LH unloads in the AM, usually.
Mmm the pineapple Gummibärchen are the best ones.
I hope you’re not putting them on pizza.
*slow clap*
They’re not made out of mozzarella or pepperoni, so… no.
So no sausage on pizza? What sort of monster are you?
OK, sausage is acceptable. Mushrooms, too. BUT THAT’S IT.
No anchovies? You fuckin savage.
I have found over the years that the pizzas that I like the best are the ones that have the most vegetables. I don’t even care about meat on a pizza so much anymore. Spinach, diced tomato, mushroom, onion, and banana pepper is just about as good as it gets for me. I also like a liberal amount of sauce.
Don’t forget the side of ranch!
My favorite toppings other than cheese, fresh out of the brine black olives and hot Italian sausage, or Pepperoni cups (cooked long enough to curl up and get crispy).
Bell pepper? Onion? OLIVES?
Bacon and {{{Montreal}}} smoked meat?
The pizza Nazism here is getting to be too much. First they came for the deep dish…
“First they came for the deep dish…”
AND I CALLED ARTILLERY AND AIR ON THEM. AND THE DEEP DISH WAS SAVED. THE END.
Pepperoni isn’t sausage anymore?
Pepperoni isn’t canadian bacon, to be sure.
On pizza, pepperoni was never sausage.
Pepperoni is a type of sausage like hot dogs are a type of sausage.
I should back up on that.
Hot dogs are a type of sausage–and in this, I’m saying that a sausage is real sausage if it’s made in some local variety common to a specific region.
Here in the U.S., we’ve conflated a couple of types of sausage into the name “hot dog”, but they were actually distinct at one point–and the other names for hot dogs reflect that.
A “frankfurter” is a sausage that’s typical of the way they made sausage in Frankfurt.
A “weiner” is a sausage that’s typical of the way they made sausage in Vienna. Of course, in German, the name of the city isn’t “Vienna”, that’s just in English. In German the name is spelled “Wien” and pronounced like “veen”. A Wiener is the way they made sausage in Vienna, and if you ever seen those little awful cans of Vienna sausage, they’re like little hot dogs.
Just as an aside, when I used to surf in San Diego a lot, back in the day, there would always be bonfires going up and down the beach at Del Mar. I’d find some girls and play a Weiner related game called “Hide the German Sausage”, but that was completely different.
What I should has said before is that pepperoni is a type of sausage like cotto salami is a type of sausage. Cotto is sort of like baloney (the way they make sausage in Balogna), but it’s cooked. Cotto means “cooked”. That is to say, pepperoni is like cotto salami in that it’s identified not by the style of the product that comes out or the region it’s from. It’s identified by what is done to it.
There is no City of Pepper in Italy or Austria or Germany. It’s named for what’s in it.
So, just for the record, pepperoni is sausage like cotto is sausage–but not like hot dogs are sausage.
P.S. Hide the German sausage.
And then there’s the Weisswurst, which looks terrible and unappetizing to my eye’s palette.
i follow. “inclusion of item from subset doesn’t include items from the superset” mistake, derp.
Precooked paste in the shape of a sausage is not a sausage
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=0ahUKEwi198G5ucPVAhUI2WMKHZJMCZYQ8TUIJDAA&usg=AFQjCNF1sHlk2z9QIx28jtvfnGP_UlkifA
Weißwurst is great! Although the first time Dad visited the old country he ordered it with wine, and all the locals made fun of him since locals have it with beer.
Do not mock Weißwurst. It is excellent, and like Ted S. says, have it with beer, even if you are eating breakfast.
The best breakfast always includes beer.
Hot dogs are a type of sausage–and in this, I’m saying that a sausage is real sausage if it’s made in some local variety common to a specific region.
For that, if you ever make it to NYC, I’ll be happy to treat you to a meal at Schaller’s Stube. All of the dishes are technically hot dogs. Except, house made sausages with brilliant choices of condiments.
unappetizing to my eye’s palette.
Understandable. But to a palette palette, it’s a gift from God.
Polska Kielbasa is best sausage. Nobody do sausage better den Polack!
Ok so this was funny …. Answer to the question what factually incorrect thing you believed as a child
https://twitter.com/jantalipinski/status/894126572327907328
I don’t remember saying it, but my parents said that when I was 3 or 4, I asked them if wearing hats caused baldness because every bald person I saw wore a hat.
random memory: I’m walking back from pre-school with my dad. I spot a beer can on the ground, snatch it up and try to drink from it. My dad gasps and swats it out of my hand. I guess I loved beer even before I knew what it was. Flash forward 25 years, I get beer as birthday and Christmas presents.
Sometimes I think humans are too good at pattern recognition; we are very good at noticing correlation, and love to jump to assuming causation until proven otherwise.
Hence, AGW.
When I was a kid, the news people were always reporting things about what Palace Indians did or wanted. Why were they so pissed off? They live in palaces!
I remember believing that when someone died in a movie, they actually died. I thought that they had to find an actor who wanted to die and then actually kill him on film to make the movie.
That’s why they call it acting.
Me too, Akira.
“Do we want to reduce the quality of engineers in order to save a few thousand dollars?”
That should be a question of “should we?” We should have no say in the matter. The only person who should have any say in the matter is the person paying the salary of the engineer. “We” should have nothing to do with it.
edit, shouldn’t be a question of.
The welfare state prevents this from only being a two-person decision though.
see my comment below. I agree.
The people who benefit from immigration (legal or otherwise) most are almost certainly average people who need cheap labor for various reasons. Sometimes it’s single guys who wouldn’t keep the house clean otherwise. Sometimes it’s single moms, who need cheap labor to watch the kids while she’s at work. Sometimes it’s the elderly, who couldn’t do lawn care or live independently if they couldn’t afford the gardener, etc.
As I wrote elsewhere, today, there’s a fundamental difference between saying I won’t something more like open borders from my representatives in congress and saying that congress shouldn’t have the ability to set immigration policy or that those laws shouldn’t be enforced. The enforcement of our immigration laws has been lax for decades. In every town, in every city in the southwest, everyone knows where the illegal aliens line up for work in the morning.
Over the decades, as a nation, I think we’ve lost track of fundamental observation about the relationship between law enforcement and policy. People don’t care about policy when the lack of enforcement amounts to legality. The flip side is that the people who support stricter policy won’t release their grasp so long as they don’t think policy is being enforced. A lack of enforcement does not generate support for legality. It generates support for a crackdown.
P.S. I’m not familiar with the computer engineering field, but generally speaking, the way to climb up the ladder is to change employers periodically. These days, especially, it’s hard for management to see employees as anything other than how they were when they were hired. Stay where you were first hired, and they tend to see you as a trainee. Change employer, and you’re seen as a seasoned veteran they lifted from another company. The other reason is that once you’ve shown that you can hold your own for a few years, there’s more competition for your skills on the open market. That’s why football players make so much money changing teams as free agents. That is especially true if he’s got a new manager now, who isn’t familiar with what he’s done in the past.
Not just the southwest. I walk by the intersection where they hang out here in Brooklyn every morning.
Eating their buttered rolls?
That’s an odd flavor of kebab.
Then they’re not real New Yorkers.
-Times writer
Yah, saw that. That writer doesn’t get out much.
That was one of the lost insular, smug pieces I’d seen in a while. It was up there with Brooks’s*piece about taking some rube out to lunch recently.
*I think it was him.
In case anybody hasn’t read it yet:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/opinion/how-we-are-ruining-america.html
Oh, he gets out plenty, he just never gets out with us unwashed hinterland types, else his sense of superiority might loose it’s shine.
Bill Whittle used to have this bit where he says we should abandon teenagers in the woods for a week with only the bare basics to teach them basic self-reliable and how good they have it. I thought it was a bit much.
Now I’m in favour of it, but also mandatory for adults. Every five years.
“The people who benefit from immigration (legal or otherwise) most are almost certainly average people who need cheap labor for various reasons. Sometimes it’s single guys who wouldn’t keep the house clean otherwise. Sometimes it’s single moms, who need cheap labor to watch the kids while she’s at work.”
Is it ever a guy who can’t get enough pussy?
And where do those immigrants line up?
Asking for a friend.
The people who benefit from immigration (legal or otherwise) most are almost certainly average people who need cheap labor for various reasons.
That’s true. But the people most dismissive of the costs of immigration are people like a lot of us whose labor is relatively expensive. The people whose labor is relatively cheap to start with, even if they can be classified as “average” do bear the brunt of the downside. You can argue, quite plausibly, that they were benefitting from undue protection. But, it’s a fool’s errand to pretend, as the STSNBN did that there is no downside.
“Our college graduates today are burdened with high debt ”
Our college students? I don’t own any college students, so I don’t believe they can be defined as ours.
would you like to buy some cheap?
*shifts gaze back and forth rapidly*
Whatcha got?
Two women’s studies majors and a sociology major for $1500
Too much.
They’re not good for manual labor, but they’re body positive, so they’re good for insulating things. I use them for hatching
my mutant cyborg komodo dragonslaying hens for my organic eggs.“In fact, before Conchita, I couldn’t even find anyone who would clean my home and watch my children for less than twenty-five dollars an hour.”
You can blame the mighty welfare state for that, not immigration policy. You could have an all-american pasty white maid for 11 bucks an hour if the “that jobs too demeaning for me so I’ll just draw a check from the government” option didn’t exist.
Although reduced immigration even with reduced welfare would increase those wages in time
Or you know get a hot young au pair instead . Although that may just work in certain movies.
I think that reduced welfare would reduce immigration independently of whether there is a change in immigration. No welfare means lazy ass Americans are all of a sudden have to become not so lazy and a lot of those low paying jobs that immigrants come over for will suddenly have a lot of American applicants.
Not an employer, but how much of the appeal of immigrant labor is paying them cash and ignoring all the other burdens on the employer? With reduced welfare, do Americans have an incentive to work above board in order to get SS payments into the system?
I know my father in law hires a lot of people temporarily (immigrant and not) informally. He pays them 15 bucks an hour to do construction work and he doesn’t report any of it. Part of it is so that he doesn’t have to deal with all the burdens of the regulatory state and part is so that he fire without cause when he needs to.
The same “under the table” advantage applies to domestic workers and shouldn’t really be ignored. A big part of the advantage to hiring illegals isn’t that they’re illegal and getting exploited. It’s that they’re working under the table. They’re getting as much from you as a significantly higher priced American worker is netting, after tax. Unfortunately, too many of the anti-immigration crowd don’t want to even acknowledge that.
There is an obvious benefit of paying cash to illegals, but also, if it is a visa like H1B and H2 visas it is a very big tax advantage to hire them over an american. There are no FICA withholding on visa workers as they are not americans. That is why businesses lobby so hard to get increases in these types of visas. H1B tech workers are not going to probably qualify for any aid as they are paid more, but the Ag workers on H2 visas undoubtedly also receive welfare benes like food stamps and housing assistance. I know for a fact that here in my local they get housing assistance because they built apartments for them. Our tax dollars at work subsidizing the rich farmers labor force. Immigration policy in the United States is nothing but cronyism.
There will always be payments under the table but that is harder to do if you are paying citizens. The IRS and state officials sniff that out pretty quick.
I am incorrect. Some H1b visas do have FICA withholding. Some don’t and some other visas do not either.
No payroll taxes saves the employer a nice chunk of change on top of paying far below market rate. Added bonus for illegals is they tend not to report things like job injuries and getting short paid (not paid for short term guys). No unemployment claims when you fire them or lay them off.
You can blame the mighty welfare state for that, not immigration policy.
I would argue those are two turds in the same cesspool. Big business, as well as others, lobby for a generous welfare state and a never ending flow of cheap labor. Those two things have driven immigration policy since 1965. Why not have the American taxpayer subsidize your labor. It is just good business. Being one for free markets, I think it is bullshit.
tricky.
I’m pretty sure this post could as easily be published as satire here as it would be posted in earnest at the old site. Just think about that for a minute.
Nah, none of them have children (except 2chilli, and his kid is too young).
Alternatively: engineers don’t get cocktail party invites anyway.
Gillespie and KMW both have kids. I think the latter is probably better off.
It was sarcasm, I’m sure some of their best friends are engineers in management! People persons, as it were.
eh thats a it of a strech
You’re probably right. We’d get hectored by a childless woman instead about how we’re like slave-catchers if we don’t have a completely open immigration policy without ever mentioning the crippling welfare state.
We’d get hectored by a childless woman who spews Two Minutes of Hate at people from her country who even just attempt to assimilate into the society they immigrated into.
Cannot be pointed out enough when she argues for ‘open borders’.
I’m going to take a step back here, sloopy. Judging anything by Shikha Dalmia is like judging black people by Jay-Z or white people by Matt Damon.
OT.
I went ATV riding up in the mounts with some friends from work yesterday morning. We went way up in the ozark mountains north of Cass, Arkansas. We were having a great time on the trails when all of a sudden I found something sharp in a pool of water and slashed the side walls of two of my tires. I only carry one spare, and that’s a problem. I changed one and with the liberal use of plugs amd a 12v air compressor manages to limp my machine down the mountain, stopping every half mile or so to re inflate my tire. It took an hour or so, but I finally made it down to an access road about 10 miles from where our trucks were parked. One of my buddies rode down to where my truck was and drove my truck to where I was so I could load up.
About half way to me, inexplicably something in the road slashes two inch long gashes in the side wall of one of my trailor tires. Now in a predicament. I’m a 30 minute drive from cellphone service and I have no spare for the trailor. This is about 6 in the evening. I make an hour long round trip to where the other trailor are to borrow a spare from one of my buddies only to find out the bolt pattern is wrong. Another buddy of mine makes the 30 minute trip up the mountain to bring me a spare that fots, only to discover that he can’t get the lock off his spare because the lock is froze up. I end up making a two and a half hour round trip to another of my buddies houses to get another trailor and another spare tire. Once again, the bolt patter isn’t rights, but at least I now have a functioning trailor. It’s a 16 footer. I load my machine on it, which eats up about 9 feet of the bed. We then remove tired from my ten foot trailor and manage to get the tongue of it slid under my machine and the frame slid forward far enough the axle hanger bolts are barely onto the bed of the 16 foot trailor. With the liberal use of chains and straps, we managed to secure the load and get it pulled all the way back to my house.
If it wasn’t pitch black when we were doing all this I would have taken pictures. A trailor with an atv on it with another trailor on top of it all strapped down has to be the most redneck thing I’ve done in months. It was almost 2 in the morning before I finally got it all unloaded and was back in my house.
No point to the story really, it was just one hell of a day yesterday.
You don’t think it was hippie sabotage, do you? Because that would add to the story.
more likely hipsters. Where was Doom yesterday.
A part I left out. While we we going to town to get another trailor, my buddy Dave popped a flat on his truck and we had to stop and change it. Also, while we were still riding on the trails, by buddy Gatti popped a hole in one of his ATV tires. We were able to put a plug in it though and get it to hold for the remainder of the day. The whole trip was kind of a shit show, fun, but a shit show none the less.
I would never slash a tire. I love off roading too much for that!
are all of the tires in your group old?? that’s so many tires going out at once. weather?
No not at all. The tires on Dave’s truck were getting a little thin, but the one’s on my Ranger are almost brand new, less than 400 miles on them. I built my trailor and put brand new tires on it last March. We were just on some really rough land, except for the trailor tire. That happened on gravel road that is in pretty good shape, and that’s the one that ended up keeping me out there all night.
When I’m up in the mountains on the trails, I take it as a matter of course that tires may get punctured. That’s why pack a conpressor, copious amounts of plugs and a spare. I wasn’t prepared for the trailor tire. That sucked.
Yeah, I always expect to lose a tire on some rock on a trail.
Too bad about the trailer.
That band isn’t great, but I don’t know if music can cut rubber.
Laura Loomer wants to know.
I blame the Chinese and their subpar tires.
I wasn’t sure, do I looked it up. Carlisle appears to make their atv tires in Pennsylvania.
I blame the Yinzers
fair enough
Are you sure somebody didn’t shoot out your tires?
Once is bad luck.
Twice?
Well done. The proposed policy change does put a few people in a pickle doesn’t it.
I’m still tempted to do a comparison of Canadian vs proposed US points system by setting up a persona beforehand and seeing how it scores under either system. Except I’m lazy, and the US side is just a proposal, while Canada’s is long-established practice, so maybe not a fair comparison. Mostly lazy, though.
I would be interested in seeing that. I am lazier than you though and expect you to enact your labor for me so I will wait until you get around to it.
Maybe we can get a Messican to do it for $10 or a six-pack of Molson’s.
A 6 pack of Molsons costs more than $10 doesn’t it? I hear the Messicans are streaming across your border these days. Just find one and tell him he can sleep in your shed if he does some research for you.
Yes, I’m accounting for fungibility of currency, as well as weakness of Canadian Dollar (it was $10 US).
Not Messicans yet. Haitians are the hot new thing. I posted a Neil Macdonald opinion piece on the subject yesterday, and today we have another article on the subject:
Huddled masses at the border put difficult focus on Trudeau’s tweet
So the writer is an open borders advocate? I am not sure his fellow countrymen are going to agree with him. And you know damn well Zoolander is not going to open the borders regardless of what he Tweets. Fake posturing against the evil Secret Nazi President
No, Neil MacDonald is more decidedly against whatever the Americans are doing…until it affects him, in which case then it’s acceptable to do, but it’s better when Canadians do it because we’re compassionate about it.
Nationalism is a hell of a drug.
That’s not Neil’s piece, but yes, I’m certain this guy is all-in on infinite immigration, at least in his public persona. His only public objection would be lack of government resources to process all the immigrants, and thus we have to have some limits. (Note: I said ‘public’ – I bet $30 he doesn’t want a Haitian enclave on his block, with Honduran one a block over)
Man, I hope this continues. Haitians will be better off in Canada, and it’ll be hilarious to see our Correct Thinkers presented with problems Canada hadn’t had to deal with since…Fenians were a thing?
I didn’t read yesterdays MacDonald piece. That one is by Aaron Wherry. Never heard of him.
Hopefully it’s on-topic enough, anyone who instills fear in OMWC is a force to respect/fear/placate.
Canada needs to come to terms with the migration crisis Trump is creating
What’s the over-under on Aaron Wherry living in a neighbourhood of Ottawa that is 80%+ white? I’m guessing Nepean, the Glebe or around Tunney’s Pasture. How many times you think he’s in Little Haiti in Vanier?
Wow I could feel the hate coming out of the screen reading the MacDonald piece. I bet he burns an American flag every weekend.
I did not see in his link in the link where the Haitians were invited, but he does later say that Obama let in 60,000 and Canada 3,000 after the quake. Why only 3.000 Mr MacDonald you heartless prick. If they were given temporary refuge, well, a deal is a deal.
I will say, the Cuban vs Haitian policy never really set well with me. I am not buying it was a racist policy though. More of a anticommunist one as well as practical. Very similar to Australian no entry by sea policy. If it was known that all you had to do is get picked up by USCG at sea and you got entry to the US, Haiti would empty in about two weeks.
Neil reminds me why I hate paying people like him from my tax dollars.
You mean like an Essay?
/Old Man Y El Mare
I’m so lazy I won’t even read the results of your study. Somebody shall have to recite it for me.
A text-to-speech (sex)bot?
You could try to get one of your orphans to learn to read.
Did you not see Conquest of the Planet of the Apes? That’s how it starts!
Well that’s why you remove their big toes and bolt their heels so they can’t run away anymore. Or get a Brazilian slave dog.
And pull them from the mines? Never!
Not advisable.
Moveable, printed type?! The orphans must never know
None of mine have the eyes for it anymore. mining in those conditions will do that.
Banjo, the chocolate icing!
That resembles Friday night. Although there was more jam and less chocolate.
I’ve already said too much. Disregard.
No, no, no…do go on
This is why you don’t import your labour from the former Yugoslavia.
They might come in handy if you own a Kalashnikov factory. Which I guess is unlikely in Canadia.
Hmm….Serbian AKs don’t have a terrible reputation, far as I know. Vhyrus would know better, of course.
They were the most sought after ones by the security guys I was around in my previous life.
Skilled immigration in the US is still kinda difficult though … I mean I would not find those H1B visas appealing. Although many people apparently do
Listen Mr If you don’t like the low ball offer that comes with an H1B then we don’t want the likes of you.
My maid, Conchita
Heh.
OT: Governments are starting to crack down on parents who don’t vaccinate their children.
That’s been coming for a while. Surprised nothing has come out of this sooner.
Real question-
If someone or a group of someone’s decide not to vaccinate their children and those children contract diseases they could have been immunized against, what’s the real world harm to those children who have been vaccinated? If my neighbor gets polio, my polio vaccinated family amd I aren’t succeptical to it as far as i know.
The first line is that there are people out there for whom vaccine is either ineffective, or utterly dangerous, and thus, the more non-vaccinated people run around, the more risk they are under with limited ability to manage it.
Herd immunity is a thing, but so is the ability to vote with ones feet. If your child has a particular vulnerability to vaccines then homeschool would be a good option, or going to a school that does require them.
Unless unvaccinated identify themselves on sight somehow, you lack necessary information to manage the risk. If you’re not immune, you only need one slip-up.
That’s fair. I’d say that this is not an issue that has a pat, glib answer. My instinct is to always cleave towards the most free option, as often as possible. If you can present a way to do so in the framework of mandatory vaccines then I will be glad to entertain such a line of reasoning.
Late, but I got mumps in fourth grade even though I’d been vaccinated. It sucked very hard.
I think “Dan, the Baby Boomer who won’t retire” is more of a competitor than Sanjay.
For those on a mobile phone, the alt-text in the gummy bear pic is “One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn’t belong…”
This should be a regular thing. I always wanted to ask for that on TOS
Shikha Dalmia endorses Trump immigration plan: America Needs High-Skilled Foreign Workers
Sheldon Richman rebuttal: Immigration Brings Out the Social Engineers
*pizza fight*
*ctrl-f “deep dish”*
*no results*
OMWC is right, we’re really slipping around here.
Deep dish is pizza, but only if you circumcise abortions.
That oughta do it.
Now you’ve done it.
On a wedding cake?
Only if it’s baked under duress, per Gay Jay.
the duress being the threat of Messican Buttsecks.
Is that really duress, or just another Glib weekend?
I don’t think there’s any (professional; is that part of the requirement in this scenario?) Glib bakers, so I just assumed a bakery would be selected for their aversion to buttsecks.
really, it doesn’t matter if the baker likes buttsecks at home anyway, they’re probably not going to appreciate it from a random Messican.
With enough weed they will….
time-stamped 4:20 no less. so punctual. so Swiss.
So I know “libertarians don’t want government funding towards anything” and all that blah blah blah, but what say you to mandatory, paid for English classes when you get a work VISA? Part of the process of renewing would be to take testing to indicate that you were picking up the local language.
(I’m borrowing this as a slightly more strict version of Quebec’s “No fuck you, learn French” system)
I’d be more interested (but still not terribly interested) in a program where a potential immigrant has to already have an employer lined out and the employer assumes the cost of the English language training as part of the deal of getting the immigrant into the country.
I have no problem with Quebec doing that pragmatically speaking. Where I have a problem is when they (coercively and punitively) stupidly demand ‘descriptives’ to international trademarks because it’s ‘sound business’ and ‘out of respect’. Hence, Starbucks becomes Cafe Starbucks. Stupid idiotic shit like that. It not only demeans the French language, it also suggests Quebec does have a problem with English. Not to mention, probably more importantly, it’s paternalism of the worst kind. Quebecers are not retarded. They can equate the trademark to the product (one politician claimed Quebecers would be confused if there were no descriptives). I’ve yet to meet a Quebecer who went into Dairy Queen thinking it was Canadian Tire or a strip joint.
That’s my problem with it.
I’ve yet to meet a Quebecer who went into Dairy Queen thinking it was Canadian Tire or a strip joint.
A strip joint named “Dairy Queen”? I’m reminded of John Stagliano’s “Milk Enema” series.
No. That would be HAIRY Queen.
Why should you get a work visa before you can speak English? Why shouldn’t it be the other way around?
I don’t know I’m just asking it as a hypothetical because I remember the French system.
Excellent bit of satire.
Val Kilmer fails to impress.
strange coincidence:
i had a dream last night i got high with val kilmer. we were at a cocktail party in the Metropolitan Museum, in the egypt wing where the Temple of Dendur is.
(*i’ve been to one of these things before, and that’s where they have them, so i think my mind just picked a setting that was most-plausible for ‘meeting hollywood type’)
our dream conversation was not especially interesting. i tried telling him i liked his movies, and he was like, “yeah fine, do you have any weed” and so we got high and then talked about music then he ran off and raided the shrimp cocktail bar.
Top Gun Val Kilmer or King of Bacchus Val Kilmer?
http://www.kreweofbacchus.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/kilmer.jpg
So OT, but the wife unit and I went to see the Dark Tower this weekend, and as a long, long time fan of the series I was satisfied. I think it was well done and fast paced and that generally critics missed the point. If any of y’all are also constant readers I would recommend it, as long as you don’t go in expecting a shot for shot adaptation of the book, (like so many butthurt fanbois)
See, I’m open to an adaptation that takes massive liberties with the source material, as long as it’s good. Not the Hitchhiker’s Guide movie, though. That was contemptible shit. But a movie that makes sense internally and looks good and THEY SHOULDA KILLED JAKE is an entertaining diversion in its own right, I can get in on that.
Fair point. Iirc they (the studio) is angling to pivot the movie into a series with Elba and Jake, where they will explore midworld, our world and lie closer to the series
I hear the kid is a pretty good actor, so I’m not angry. But still, it would have been a major goddamn twist. Maybe one that makes it into its own little cinematic universe, as the kids these days are all talking about.
I used to have the original paperback version of “The Dark Tower”. When I read the last couple of books in the series, I found out that King had gone back and modified the earlier books in the series. I decided to reread the earlier books. Unfortunately, I no longer had my old copy of “The Dark Tower”, but my memory held up well. I picked up on some changes and I thought the modified version was a lessor book than the original.
I’ll probably stay away from the movie. I’m not keen on what Hollywood churns out. “Dunkirk” was great, but I think that’s like a diamond in the rough.
As was said already it was hard to tell that this was satire until the arguments became too blatant. The stereotypical names were also a give away.
I forgot to say it, so I will now: This article could have been published in The Onion as-is. I can’t think of higher praise.
Seconded.
Not an employer, but how much of the appeal of immigrant labor is paying them cash and ignoring all the other burdens on the employer? With reduced welfare, do Americans have an incentive to work above board in order to get SS payments into the system?
I think this works both ways. There are a lot of “marginal” workers who don’t want a long term job. The gig economy is not really a new phenomenon. A lot of people would be happy to just show up for a few days or weeks, do a specific task/project, and walk away with cash in pocket. Shit, that’s what I liked to be able to do. All of the employer/employee paperwork destroys this simple and efficient market.
Agrred. Gig economy isn’t new. User etc more efficient Craigs List.
what say you to mandatory, paid for English classes when you get a work VISA?
I say employers should foot the bill to train their goddam employees, whether it’s bringing their pidgin English somewhat into conformity with their co-workers, or running a lathe, or mounting and inflating tires or reading blueprints.
Totally agree. Either the employer or the individual. When my preferred line of work dried up, I got my CDL. I went to one of those chain schools. The first day of class the director of the school asked how I was going to pay for the classes. I said, “I planned on writing you a check. What, you don’t take checks?” I was confused but found out later nobody paid cash for the training. The ten other people in my class where all there through state sponsored job retraining. Pissed me off and I wish I had that $3000 back because fuck driving a truck. It is a soul draining endeavor for very little money for your efforts. But, on topic, trucking companies are now bringing in visa workers because they can’t get people to work for what they want to pay. The cycle continues. Offer shit wages lobby the government for foreign workers when you can’t fill the positions.
With the new English requirements looks like Filipino and India and Rwanda might get more love from recruiters.
Gives a whole new meaning to having ‘rib eye’ steak for dinner.
http://www.meryinfo.com/2017/08/06/wyoming-man-found-with-30-eyeballs-in-his-anal-cavity/
Sheesh, you really have to keep an eye out for weirdos like that.
I wonder if he preferred the brown eyes?
*narrows gaze*
I don’t know what idea is more disturbing =
– that there are men who stuff cow eyeballs up their ass
– … or that he’s just the one who got *caught*, and there are others out there far more depraved
also =
I’m definitely no proponent of pre-crime, preventative incarceration, etc…. but you will excuse me for thinking that this guy is one very-bored weekend away from dismembering a prostitute and then having her for dinner.
And then he ate the eyeballs that he had up his ass. From the photo he doesn’t look the sort to bother putting them in baggies or something.
How does that workplace video footage Go? Sort sort sort body parts looks around… jams eyeball down pants …. whistle nonchalantly…. sort sort sort
adds gamey flavor
people reportedly enjoy fish eyeballs, I like tendon in my pho, I don’t see the food taboo. without looking it up, I’m guessing he had to smuggle them because of BSE or other food-safety regs?
this guy is one very-bored weekend away from dismembering a prostitute and then having her for dinner.
I find that less disturbing than eating ass eyeballs. What does that say about society?
Prostitutes are delicious?
or that he’s just the one who got *caught*, and there are others out there far more depraved
Um, you hang out on Glibertarians.
Keister eyeballs to smuggle them Out? Wonder where he learned that skill. Or got that good at it. That’s a lot of eyeballs!
Excellent work, just say’n
Immigrants willing to work for lower wages will not last long. The wages natives want are based on cost of living and expectation of standard of living. After people live here for a generation or so they become Americanized in that respect.
I am reminded of a line I heard a couple of days ago: “Every problem has a solution, and vice versa.”
You can always find a new wave of poorer immigrants from some2here. Bet Venezuelans come cheap these days.
Detective Comrade is pretty amazing on Prime right now.
“You can keep your invisible hand, I’ve got an iron fist!”
“It’s OK son, informing on your sister is your duty”
“How dare he take his own life! Only the state has that right!”
Flashdancell song What A Feeling in Romanian playing during a shoot out. Glorious.
If you like cheesy dubs like Danger 5 or King Fury ( or for you old farts Top Secret and Naked Gun)this should be up your alley.
I downloaded eps 1-6 last night.
Starts hitting it’s stride episode 2 and 3 and finishes strong.
And now I finished the last episode. Sadface.
Damn, that’s the first thing I’ve seen that makes Prime tempting…
I wouldn’t get Prime just for that it.
Is it as good as “Sledgehammer”?
I loved that show. Comrade Detective is played more straight than Sledgehammer, but I think that makes it funnier with scenes like the one where they try to determine how the boardgame “Mono-poly” works. The detectives are horrified to discover the way to win the game is to bankrupt the other players.
There is one overt Trump slam, but it was minor and pretty cute. There’s also a brief scene when they are talking about how brainwashed the Americans must be to vote for an actor could be alluding to Trump also, but it wasn’t hit you over the head and still works if they are simply talking about Reagan.
If you did like Sledgehammer (available on DVD), check out the mini-series “Bullet In the Head” by the same writer/director – name escapes me now – came out on Starz or something a few years back – kinda low budget, but the same kind of humor.
If you like cheesy dubs
As cheesy as “What’s Up, Tiger Lily?”
Exactly that.
one of my favorite stoner-movies.
“I can’t help but think that Sanjay was hired because of the lower than average salary”
What the country needs is common sense minimum wage so people like Sanjay can’t come in and undercut the salaries of whypippo.
Thrown out of the city council meeting and arrested for public intoxication in his 15th year as city councilman. Ladies and gentleman, democracy in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un3jqw-v3_M
SLD: Public intoxication shouldn’t be a crime.
About 8 years ago I learned all about the public intoxication statute in my home state. In Arkansas, if you smell of alcohol, are in public, and pose an annoyance to others or a danger to yourself and others then you are guilty of the crime of public intoxication.
I was slightly intoxicated in a vehicle that was pulled over. All occupants of the vehicle were ordered out. I told Officer Dickface that I didn’t want to get out. I was commanded out anyway. Once I was in public, I was arrested for public intoxication.
Anyway, I hired a lawyer who explained to me that the cops and courts justify arresting anyone they want in public who has been drinking by invoking the part of the law about being a danger to yourself. So, if you have been drinking and you are walking, then you are posing a danger to yourself. Therfore guilty, pay your 160 dollars and spend 8 hours in jail.
I beat the charge eventually, but it’s a pain in the ass to have to pay 800 bucks to a lawyer to beat a 160 dollar fine. Worth it to me, but it’s not exactly financially sound reasoning.
It is about the money. You have to make it cost them. My father had two traffic tickets in Texas. He insisted on jury trials for both of them. The judges were extremely annoyed and threw him out of court.
It has been my working theory for a long time that if people fought tooth and nail against every chickenshit ticket/fine/petty charge levied again them then the system would have to change dramatically. If it starting costing courts and PDs money to do this this kind of shit, then they would quit.
I recently devoted a disproportionate amount of time and effort into winning a case about a seat belt and a lack of proof of insurance because I believe in the theory.
Oh yeah. My father’s lawyer told him that if everyone did what he does the whole system would crash.
The problem is time and effort.
Doesn’t seem to be one in New Orleans. I mean, they have open carry and drive through daquiris (or used to pre-Katrina).
Oh, they have ways. They always do. You can party and spend your money in N.O. but step out of line an inch and they will bring the hammer down. Hard.
By step out of line I mean bring attention to yourself. Drink, party and blend in. Or be smart and stay out of N.O.
That’s certainly true. And they used to be really strict about where you can act like a drunk jack ass. Flash your titties and round around screaming drunk is fine… in the quarter. Try flashing that shit ten blocks up St Charles? You get your ass arrested.
What the country needs is common sense minimum wage so people like Sanjay can’t come in and undercut the salaries of whypippo.
In a perfect world, all wages would be set by the Ministry of Plenty. Wage discrimination and competition would be abolished.
Also, immigration screening is a preliminary screening for citizenship. I know that some people immigrate without becoming Americans, but living here as a legal immigrant puts you on a “pathway to citizenship” if you want one.
Of course, to be naturalized you have to show, among other things, attachment to the Constitution’s principles.
That’s a dicey issue – how does a country with a First Amendment evaluate citizenship applicants to see if they’re properly attached to the principles of the Constitution?
At minimum, that should mean that they should reject violence or usurped power as methods of changing the Constitution, but should rely solely on peaceful amendments. But how many native-born citizens meet that basic test of attachment to the constitution? Not most of the Supreme Court justices, that’s for sure.
Not to mention obeying constitutionally valid laws, which would include the neutrality laws – I once saw a from a guy at some Islamic institute that if young Muslims in America wanted to go on jihad, they should travel abroad instead of attacking American targets. Nope, that’s not good enough, you can’t use your adopted country’s territory to launch attacks on countries with which your country is at peace.
And attachment to civil liberties – if you believe in a system (like communism or sharia) which involves violations of the FIrst, Eighth, and other amendments that should be a bar to citizenship, maybe to admission into the country.
once saw a letter from a guy
I’m not so worried about evaluating whether an applicant is properly attached to the principles of the constitution, whatever properly means to you, but rather that they agree to abide by it and then they do. I think that the constitutional ideas eventually win out over the ideas brought in by the immigrant.
Obviously is there is evidence this person is anti-US, they should be allowed a green card. We’ve got enough of that shit homegrown.
Should have thrown in about how Sanjay uses nonsensical phrases like “do the needful”