Tuesday Morning LInks

There’s no links here yet, but we don’t want a riot. Sloopy and I both (separately) got too drunk last night. Look for an update in a few minutes.

Okay, links!

Wow. It looks like Tampa has a for real serial killer stalking Seminole Heights. Serge Storms is a far more lovable character.

Surprise, you probably now have high blood pressure.

This Hariri thing is an old-fashioned proxy war. More jaw-jaw less pew-pew.

Wow, BILL Clinton is going under the bus? Fortune is cruel, cruel bitch, and she has been molested by the Clintons once too often. (H/T Warty)

I know, its Tuesday, but it feels like Monday

And these are from Swissy’s emergency post — now disappeared!
Sloopy is jammed up with real world stuff, and I overslept….so

*shatters glass*

Try these emergency links!

  • Shocked about this one, aren’t you!
  • President Big Dog gets a look back in sadness or anger? [*cuts hand on piece of glass, “Ow, dammit, a double link!”]
  • Tesla with yet ANOTHER problem?!

Comments

451 responses to “Tuesday Morning LInks”

  1. The Elite Elite

    First! Why are there no links!?

    1. The anchor line broke, so the anchor tags don’t work.

    2. Just a thought not a sermon

      I’ve been told many times a first doesn’t count unless you’re commenting on a posted link, so I’m afraid you’re not first, Elite Elite.

      1. WTF

        Yet since there are no posted links, the lack of a comment is relevant, no?

        1. The Elite Elite

          Exactly. I’m commenting on the story, which is that there are no links.

          1. You win this time….there are now links, so go forth and multiply…er, comment.

        2. Just a thought not a sermon

          The only link I see is the one I provided, below. Since PieintheSky is the first one to comment on that, it stands to reason he gets credit for the first comment.

          PieintheSky #1

          1. The chronological anomalies dictated otherwise.

          2. The Elite Elite

            Also way to other xenophon and his link that comes before pie’s.

          3. We could end the debate by simply stopping the tagging of first comments with giant images.

          4. xenophon

            And I try so hard to provide interesting links!

            *sobs into his coffee*

          5. UCS gets a battleship-gray square for his image.

          6. Fine….participation trophies for everyone!

          7. The Elite Elite

            I meant that JATNAS was othering him, not you Swiss.

          8. bacon-magic

            We could end the debate by simply stopping the tagging of first comments with giant images.

            The very nature of this site is to debate. So up yours UCS, you’re wrong.
            *after-debate hug*

          9. We could end the debate by simply stopping the tagging of first comments with giant images.

            The crowd is yelling for Barabbas, not you, to be freed.

          10. Bobarian LMD

            Swiss the Centurion just put a fork in your ribs…

            The Fork of Destiny!

  2. The Late P Brooks

    “I’ve been to one World’s Fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that’s the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a pair of earphones.”

  3. Just a thought not a sermon

    88) I saw it again a couple days ago—somebody commenting in an article on sexual harassment wrote off-handedly, “Now that we know sexual harassment is everywhere in the business world…”

    What? I’ve worked in corporate America since 2000 and my experience is that people walk on eggshells over this stuff. Everybody watches what they say, avoid touching other people even casually, and are generally super-cognizant that their careers could be derailed because a joke was misinterpreted.

    Nearly everybody accused lately seems to be in entertainment or politics—places where the rules governing the rest of American business don’t apply (or at least the people in those industries seem to think they’re above the rules). These people aren’t breaking the rules because everyone does it, it’s just part of the vile culture we live in, etc. This people are doing it because they are A) distinctively nasty in a way normal people are not, and B) think they are in a position to get away with it.

    Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m blind and this really is everywhere. But my feeling is, if you have the sense that’s the case, you’re working on a (probably progressive!) industry where people feel they can operate outside the norms that govern modern life for everybody else in the United States.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Your experience is not relevant as a cishet male shitlord

    2. Nephilium

      Are you not aware that it’s in every industry? My favorite from the list they publish is: “The Sex Industry”.

    3. WTF

      I have been in the corporate world since 1989, and that has been my experience as well, especially over the last decade it has reached levels of paranoia that any woman can ruin any man on a whim with just an accusation.

      1. R C Dean

        Same here – the kind of behavior that really rises to harassment is pretty rare in my experience since 1987 in law firms, trade associations and health care.

        My advice to any male in an office environment is this: (1) Do not touch a woman at work, and (2) Do not mention in any way a woman’s appearance (hair, clothes, anything) at work. Sad that our interactions have to be so constrained, but I think that’s the smart play.

        1. Enough About Palin

          My experience too. Corporate America since 1985. And NEVER go out with a women where you work. Don’t even ask them out. On the other hand I have developed some great decades-long platonic friendships with several charming professional women.

          1. R C Dean

            And NEVER go out with a women where you work.

            Good advice that I didn’t follow. Although I do still have the scar from my first date with now-Mrs. Dean, who worked in the same office I did when we met and started dating.

        2. TK

          Yup. I have a strict no-dating at work policy. It’s not just because of the specter of false allegations though. Its also because I have a history of getting cold feet and moving on quickly – I really don’t want to have a bunch of scorned women I have to deal with at work.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      Let’s just say my sense of humour got me into trouble on a couple of occasions during my 10 years stint at the bank. One of the last ones was so stupid I knew it was time to leave the cult of stupidity behind and go off on my own.

      Like….The Littlest Hobo.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgGKSjiw0HQ

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Watching the TLH carry the rifle in his mouth always gets me.

        /wipes tear.

    5. TK

      Yep, my brief half-decade of experience in the corporate world is that people are so uptight and afraid of offending each other. It’s almost annoying, but shit I ain’t getting fired just to make a joke. I’m not dying on that hill.

    6. Badolph Hilter

      #yesallbusinesses

    7. wdalasio

      I’ve been in the professional and business world since 1993. My experience is roughly the same.

    8. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I spent a decade in the high-tech industry out West. My experience was that it was all very sexually loose. And there were plenty of women who were seeking advancement using their bodies as a resume.

      1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        How west is west? Because I want in that industry.

    9. Suthenboy

      “…Nearly everybody accused lately seems to…” – have money.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Nonsense in a free market people just don’t work together and it is everyone for themselves

    2. Suthenboy

      I am not even going to read that. No one gives a flying fuck about tolerance, diversity or inclusion – least of all the left.

      1. egould310

        ?

  4. PieInTheSKy

    Here’s a link

    Why we should believe women who accuse right wingers of rape more than those who accuse liberals

    https://medusamagazine.com/why-we-should-believe-women-who-accuse-right-wingers-of-rape-more-than-those-who-accuse-liberals

    “Regardless of whether any of these men are guilty of the crimes they have been accused of or not, one thing is for sure – the ones who hold left wing values have earned the right to make at least one mistake in their lives. ”

    1. Just a thought not a sermon

      “I would rather live in a world where liberals hold political power and a few women get raped than one in which conservatives hold power and women still get raped.”

      Tells you all you need to know about this person.

    2. xenophon

      I … no words. Didn’t realize voting Democrat was a “Get out of rape free” card.

      1. Bill Clinton’s entire Presidency, Ted Kennedy’s time in the Senate…

        1. WTF

          Although in Teddy’s case it was more of a “Get out of manslaughter free” card.

          1. The Elite Elite

            Um, excuse me but that would be womanslaughter, you cis hetero male shitlord!

          2. WTF

            What about Xeslaughter, you othering, binary shitlord!

          3. Its shitlords all the way down!

      2. Drake

        Gary Studds – literally fucked an underage Congressional page in the ass.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Massachusetts has a long history of electing and re-electing morally suspect individuals.

        2. And got a standing ovation from the Dem House Caucus when he returned. The Rethuglican at the time (who nailed a 17 year old female page) was tossed out by the voters back in IL.

        3. ChipsnSalsa

          Gary Studds is his porn name right?

        4. Mainer

          It’s actually Gerry Studds…..Named for his ancestor Eldridge Gerry….he of Gerrymander fame.

    3. straffinrun

      We should sympathize with the victims of these liberal men, but we should not devalue the work and legacies of their rapists.

      The ins justify the ends.

      1. STEVE SMITH HAVE INS WITH EVERYONE!

        1. WTF

          STEVE SMITH HAVE INS WITH EVERYONE’S ENDS!!

          1. Damn…yours is better.

          2. MikeS

            NOT WORRY FUNNY SWISS GLIB. STEVE SMITH LIKE YOU, RAPE YOU LAST!

          3. *flop sweat, tugs collar*

            th…th..thanks, Mr. Smith!

          4. commodious spittoon

            REMEMBER WHEN STEVE SMITH SAY HE RAPE YOU LAST

            STEVE SMITH LIE

      2. Lachowsky

        +1 laventri Beria

    4. The Elite Elite

      Well, you see when male feminists rape it’s okay, because they advocate for the correct policies, so that balances out the crime. When an evil right winger rapes, it’s just proof of how the right treats women like property and doesn’t care about them!

    5. WTF

      Shorter article: “It’s okay when our side does it!”

    6. R C Dean

      Pretty sure that’s satire.

      1. WTF

        Poe’s Law.

      2. Raston Bot

        absolutely. we often don’t see satire this brilliant. it should be celebrated.

  5. OK, calm down….remember, a riot is an ugly thing. Look out on the sight, Links are there.

    1. Brett L

      Thanks, Swiss. Sorry about the mixup. I blame Sloopy!

      1. PieInTheSKy

        You could say there were sloppy seconds this morning

      2. And I overslept….a cluster all around. But the rabble have their links now, so…

        Did I just type that out loud?!

        1. Narrow your gaze all the way and go back to sleep, switzy.

      1. THANK YOU…I was hoping someone would hit that slow, fat pitch over the plate.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Rough story and, yes, those cops should be in jail or at least fired and disgraced.

    2. Chipwooder

      He was interviewed 20 times over five years, according to court documents. He did so voluntarily and without an attorney

      There’s you problem right there: never, EVER talk to cops without a lawyer!

      1. Never, ever talk to the cops, even with a lawyer.

        1. WTF

          They collected DNA from McCann and 300 other residents
          If they didn’t have valid warrants, those people are idiots for allowing it.

        2. Lachowsky

          https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE

          I watched this many years ago. It was informative.

    3. straffinrun

      Damn. Guess you find out who is a real friend when that kind of shit happens. Railroaded TBS.

    4. wdalasio

      As far as I’m concerned McCann should come out of this owning the whole damned town. As his personal fiefdom. Given the behavior they’ve tolerated from their civil servants, the residents of Constantine have proven themselves incapable of self-government.

    5. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Furlong said he didn’t know McCann and that McCann had nothing to do with the murder, but Jodi’s mother remains dubious. Gilson said McCann’s misstatements to police show he’s hiding something.

      “Maybe if he had told the truth like everyone else, he wouldn’t have been a suspect,” she said.

      Right there is a perfect example of human irrationality. The mother has spent years angry at McCann for killing her daughter and has probably spoken to hundreds of people about him and his cruelty. Now she cannot accept the fact that she was wrong and he was grossly punished for something he did not do. She can’t cope with the admission of her own complicity in his mistreatment.

      The prosecutor and cops should be flogged in the public square and put in prison for concocting evidence.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    Witch hunting season is now open

    The Justice Department said Monday that prosecutors were looking into whether a special counsel should be appointed to investigate political rivals President Trump has singled out for scrutiny, including Hillary Clinton.

    ————-

    Any such investigation would raise questions about the independence of federal investigations under Mr. Trump. Since Watergate, the Justice Department has largely operated independently of political influence on cases related to the president’s opponents.

    How many times does poor Missus Clinton have to tell you people that negotiation was totally on the up-and-up?

    1. Nephilium

      He should just use the old standard organizations that already exist for this, like the IRS.

    2. WTF

      Since Watergate, the Justice Department has largely operated independently of political influence on cases related to the president’s opponents.

      That’s hilarious.

    3. Drake

      I’ve stopped believing anything. The fake Roy Moore stuff, the ugly chick who claims Trump molested her, Charlie Sheen raping a dead kid, Kobe Bryant, blah, blah, blah.

      At this point, if you didn’t call the cops, I don’t need to hear about it.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Hey now. The kid wasnt dead at the time. Even Charlie Sheen has standards.

        1. *throws hat in the air, huzzahs and waves sword*

    4. Raston Bot

      martyring Clinton is a terrible idea. let her die from lack of press coverage.

    5. Suthenboy

      What’s good for the goose….
      Why go half-banana republic?

  7. PieInTheSKy

    Bla

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Well that worked. Fiat lynx I guess

      1. These links are worthless. I will not accept them as payment.

        1. I will not buy this record, it is scratched!

          1. ***Hands Swiss a box of matches***

  8. straffinrun

    They were liberal and conservative; white collar and pink collar; black and white and Hispanic and Asian. Their common experience was not political, economic, or racial. Their common experience was female.

    All female victims of sexual misbehavior are women.

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Except the ones that are not, obviously

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Wait. What is a pink collar supposed to mean?

      1. WTF

        They washed their whites with something red in the machine.

        1. straffinrun

          Eeeew. Let’s hope the edit faerie doesn’t provide a pic.

          1. The Elite Elite

            It was that time of the month for their wives?

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          I was thinking sex workers. I suppose that is a service.

  9. PieInTheSKy

    Surprise, you probably now have high blood pressure. – I honestly am having trouble taking the medical establishment seriously. The are not eve sure yet if saturated fat cause health issues

    1. Is this in reference to something?

      1. Nephilium

        It’s in one of the links. The guidelines for what qualifies as hypertension are being lowered.

        1. When I started commenting on this thread, there were no links.

          1. Refresh, man… its a whole new brave, linked world out there!

          2. Just a thought not a sermon

            O, wonder!
            How many goodly creatures are there here!
            How beauteous Morning LInks is! O brave new world,
            That has such links in’t!

        2. commodious spittoon

          If these dummies RAISED the threshold, fewer people would be hypertensive.

          JEEZ, do I have to think of everything!?

      2. PieInTheSKy

        Just an random comment I guess

    2. Just a thought not a sermon

      “The nation’s leading heart experts on Monday issued new guidelines for high blood pressure that mean tens of millions more Americans will meet the criteria for the condition, and will need to change their lifestyles or take medicines to treat it.”

      Or they could ignore the experts and go on as they were before.

      1. PieInTheSKy

        The problem would be if insurance companies increased premiums over this

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          They cant do that. Its a preexisting condition!
          *throws chai latte across the room*

          1. Tundra

            It’s a win-win for the insurance companies and the manufacturers of bp meds. They jack up your rates and the doc puts you on even more meds.

            Fuck them.

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            Yeah. Another good reason to get on a treadmill from time to time.

          3. Plisade

            *gazes at MS suspiciously*

    3. Suthenboy

      Saturated fat = all carbons loaded with hydrogen
      Cooking causes hydrogens to hop off and fly away

      Saturated fat + cooking = unsaturated fat.

  10. PieInTheSKy

    Ancient Greek ‘Masterpiece’ Revealed on Thumb-Size Gem
    The scene’s stunning detail is etched with intricate precision and depicts a victorious warrior in combat.

    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/11/greek-sealstone-gemstone-combat-griffin-warrior-tomb-spd

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Franklin Mint did it better.

    2. Evan from Evansville

      “The scene [found in a tomb from 3500 years ago] depicts a victorious warrior who, after conquering his first opponent, lifts his sword to plunge it into the neck of another enemy. Individual muscles can be seen on the human bodies carved onto the stone.”

      Hell, yeah.

      That was a really cool read! People above my pay-grade in this field say that they don’t know how the artist created it. Apparently you can’t see the image with the naked eye–you need several x magnification. They say that they didn’t see detail like this for over a thousand years after this piece. Very interesting, indeed.

      1. robc

        I not saying it was aliens….

        1. Damn your speedy posting!

          1. Why is Pat rioting? The link wants a signon with a derpbook account – something which I will never have.

      2. Suthenboy

        It is 1.4 inches long. If you cant see it with your naked eye you need glasses.

    3. B.P.

      Maybe someone washed it and it shrank.

  11. straffinrun

    Police haven’t yet identified the victim, who is a male, Tampa police spokesperson Steve Hegarty told WTSP. The first responding sergeant got to the scene in “about a minute,” he added.

    Think I know where I’d start the investigation. Guarantee you they’d be hauling me in for some “questioning” if I got to a crime scene in a minute.

    1. WTF

      Yeah, since when do police respond within one minute?

      1. When it’s the donut shop across from the station?

        1. straffinrun

          *Sigh* A minute behind UnCiv’s joke.

          1. But specificity makes yours marginally funnier.

      2. straffinrun

        When a Krispy Kreme is getting robbed?

    2. Brett L

      The Tampa mayor went all Corleone and told the cops to and this is an actual quote: “..bring me his head” — referring to the SH killer. If the cops just hang out at the zoo on one side or 275 on the other, they could probably be to anywhere in that neighborhood in under 2 minutes.

      1. straffinrun

        Don’t you have the ability to put up a “Missed it by this much”?

  12. The Late P Brooks

    We could end the debate by simply stopping the tagging of first comments with giant images.

    That’s just silly.

    1. The Elite Elite

      Exactly. What’s the point of commenting if not to get giant gifs placed in your post?

      1. The fun of the snark.

  13. PieInTheSKy

    Tesla Inc.’s production floor is a “hotbed for racist behavior,” an African-American employee claimed in a lawsuit in which he alleged black workers at the electric carmaker suffer severe and pervasive harassment. – I very sincerely doubt this

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Doesn’t pass the sniff test.

    2. Suthenboy

      Bullshit.

    3. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      If this is actually true and he tells them to pound sand I might buy a Tesla. Presumably, everybody there is being ‘harassed’ to do their job and get the model 3 out. More likely than not this is part of the UAW efforts to try and unionize the assembly line.

  14. Rufus the Monocled

    Re The Bangles song.

    Makes you wonder where muh melodies gone?

    1. Tundra

      Prince wrote that one.

      And Susanna Hoffs is one of the hottest women on the planet.

      1. F. Stupidity Jr.

        She’s still a scorcher.

          1. Evan from Evansville

            ….I am sexually aroused.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        I know and yes.

        I have to go find the 45 of that record and see if Prince is in the credit tag.

        1. F. Stupidity Jr.

          He’s credited as Alexander Nevermind.

          Seriously. Not making that up.

      3. robc

        It knocked a Prince performed song out of #1 too. I forget which one.

        1. Tundra

          I looked it up. Manic Monday peaked at #2, at the same time Kiss was #1.

          1. robc

            Ditto, then I had a meeting before I could correct.

  15. mexican sharpshooter

    Although Tesla stands out as a groundbreaking company at the forefront of the electric car revolution, its standard operating procedure at the Tesla factory is pre-Civil Rights era race discrimination,”

    Pro Tip: when suing your employer for discrimination, signaling their virtue is unnecessary.

  16. straffinrun

    Had a blast posting music videos without comment on FB the night of Trump’s election. With the tsunami of rape allegations, I’ve started posting more random videos. This was the one that finally cause my feminist sister to catch on to what I was doing. She unfriended me. That makes two sisters that have cut me off.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Family members unfriend each other? Wtf?

      Me and siblings differ majorly on political and social issues but it never reaches that point. We’re just too grounded to let that shit get in the way.

      And everyone agrees Justin Trudeau is an embarrassing moron even to my bleeding heart liberal sister.

      1. straffinrun

        She’ll be back in a few months. 55 years old and she acts like that. I’ve always like doing this to her bullshit beliefs.

      2. Being related does not mean you want to hear their drivel. It means putting up with them at family events for the sake of people you like more, and then ignoring each other the rest of the time.

        1. straffinrun

          This is getting uncomfortable. Stop thinking like me.

        2. spqr2008

          My aunt and uncle get really uncomfortable when I make their kids think critically about things (and this is usually libertarian statements along the lines of: “If the government doesn’t do this well, why do they do it?”, that even my super liberal uncle agrees with me on), and always change the conversation. So does my grandmother, although she’s worse, in that she’s so damn stubborn (hey, look at what I inherited!) she won’t even consider a different point of view. In the 50s and 60s Democrats were good in California and Hawaii (as well as FDR and Truman in her childhood), and they say nice sounding things, therefore they must be good.

        3. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          “That’s what familes is, peoples you hates.”

    2. Kip Winger’s Seventeen probably isn’t subtle enough.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    an African-American employee claimed in a lawsuit in which he alleged black workers at the electric carmaker suffer severe and pervasive harassment

    When everything is racism… everything is racism.

    1. The problem is, most of these people have never seen real discrimination, but so desperately want to be seen to be fighting it.

      1. leonadasiv

        They want to be victims.

  18. PieInTheSKy

    Private Property Rights Collide With Invisible Frog

    https://www.agweb.com/article/private-property-rights-collide-with-invisible-frog-naa-chris-bennett/

    Edward Poitevent is at the mercy of an invisible frog. He has lost private property rights on 1,500 acres to a frog species that will never live on his land and doesn’t live in his state. The Endangered Species Act (ESA) is shackled to a litany of odd cases, but Poitevent’s battle with a $34-million frog may rank as the most bizarre of the lot.

    In September 2011, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) published a proposed critical habitat rule (76 Fed. Reg. 59774) for the dusky gopher frog with a bull’s-eye on 1,500 acres of Poitevent’s tree farm land in St. Tammany Parish, located toward the tip of the Louisiana boot. Kicking hard against the designation and a massive $34-million loss, Poitevent hopes the U.S. Supreme Court will hear his case sometime in the fall of 2017.

    At present, the feds have designated Poitevent’s property as critical habitat for the non-existent frog and in effect have shut down commercial opportunities for the land. Therein lies the glaring irony: The feds can declare his ground as an ideal frog refuge and stunt the land’s commercial viability, but they cannot force Poitevent to reintroduce the dusky gopher frog on the 1,500 acres in question.

    The United States where property and free market capitalism rule supreme (or so other Europeans tell me)

    1. WTF

      At the very least that should be considered a taking and the owner entitled to fair market compensation.

    2. The ESA needs to die. Preferrably repealed, but being ruled an unconstitutional taking for forbearing any use of land without compensation would also be good.

      1. PieInTheSKy

        Could be worse, imagine if the from was gay, double protection. We need more intersectionality in environment protection to be honest.

    3. Raston Bot

      “I doubt the Poitevent family or the other timber companies had any idea they were hurting frogs. But I think it’s important to keep this in mind: The Poitevents were not idle bystanders in the disappearance of the dusky gopher frog from their land and that’s important to remember when you are weighing habitat for an endangered frog against private landowner rights,” he adds.

      is that important to remember? i’m going with no.

      1. How were they hurting frogs that were never there?

        1. Raston Bot

          this dipshit in academia claims he has evidence the frog was there up until the 60s. but the logging lease wasn’t signed until the 90s anyway. the appeals court ruled 2-1 and then 8-6 not to hear it en banc. it’s been close.

          i’d really like Gorsuch to take this opportunity to gut Chevron. but will Roberts allow it? he’s a real cunt RINO.

    4. Raston Bot

      this is a very important case because Chevron:

      Chevron Looming

      The Supreme Court will consider taking Poitevent’s case this fall. If SCOTUS agrees to hear the case, “Chevron deference” will be thrown in the legal spotlight. Pared down, the landmark 1984 Chevron decision said when “ambiguous language” pops up in federal law, judges should defer to government agency interpretation. (When the text is in doubt, rely on agency discernment.)

      1. WTF

        Which of course is the exact opposite of the intent of the constitution, which is to limit government power.

      2. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        The FedSoc has been railing against Cheveron ever since that decision came down. If only we had a couple more seats I’d feel better about it getting overturned.

    5. Raston Bot

      shoot, shovel, shut up

      1. WTF

        There are not even any of these frogs there, but they are still fucking them because it’s “habitat”.

    6. Suthenboy

      Shut the EPA down. Fire every goddamned one of them and burn the headquarters to the ground. Every goddamned one of them.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Even government workers hate them. During the “shutdown” of 2012 several of my coworkers were bitching about the entire EPA backpayed for the two weeks they didn’t work.

    7. JaimeRoberto

      A small housing development near me has not been approved in part because it might harm fairy shrimp. This property is on a small hill where no water collects, so how the shrimp get there is a mystery. But some green organization in Arizona says it is so, so it must be true.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        I had to look them up. To save others some time, they look like sea monkeys.

      2. WTF

        The fuck? They are not endangered or threatened. They’re fucking brine shrimp, and they can live almost anywhere and are commonly used as fish food.

        1. JaimeRoberto

          Yeah, it’s bogus. Even some opponents of the project admit it’s bogus. The same green organization said the project would disturb burrowing owls, but the same people who oppose the project take their dogs off leash on the property, which probably has chased any and all owls away. They also let their kids create BMX trails on the hillside, which looks like fun, but it reveals the whole hypocrisy. When they asked me to sign a petition against the project, I told them they should buy the property, because what they were doing was theft otherwise. I just got puzzled looks. I then told them that we were lucky there were no such opponents when our homes were being built, which actually got through to one of the them, but didn’t really change anything. They probably also wonder why housing is so expensive in California.

  19. LJW

    HOW TO ESCAPE A SHARK ATTACK? PUNCH IT IN THE FACE, SAYS U.K. DOCTOR

    Headline correction

    HOW TO ESCAPE A NAZI SHARK ATTACK? PUNCH IT IN THE FACE, SAYS ANTIFA hipster.

  20. Tundra

    FUTURE SEX: A BRAVE NEW WORLD

    The problem with (fun) sex is there’s emotional risk. In the near future, if men and women still want to have sex with each other, it will be so boring as to not be worth it. Moves will have to be mapped out and approved beforehand (I imagine storyboarding panels); contracts will be signed; protective garments will be donned. To tamp down inhibition, participants will have to have consumed enough intoxicant to anaesthetise a Clydesdale horse.

    It’s a good thing virtual-reality technology is getting so sophisticated. The next step is self-programmable porn on your virtual-reality headset, like the ‘Feelies’ predicted in Brave New World (only with computers touching you rather than humans). If you find a startup tech company working on virtual-reality porn, buy stock if you can.

    Good article on the witch-hunt and its inevitable consequences.

    1. TK

      Most women are not jumping on board with all the hyper-sensitive #metoo stuff. It’s a loud minority. But if they get their way, all of the ugly men will finally be put in jail.

      #OnlyHitOnMeIfYou’reHot

      1. Tundra

        #OnlyHitOnMeIfYou’reHotandRich

        1. leonadasiv

          #OnlyHitOnMeIfYou’reHotandRichandWoke

          1. 0x90

            #OnlyHitOnMeIfYou’reHotandRichandWokeAndUnderstandThatIMayChangeMyMindAfterTheFactAndSellYouDownTheRiverAnyway

          2. spqr2008

            Well, the selling down the river part is completely accurate. See Slate’s series on Campus Sexual Assault. For some strange reason, minority men are much more likely to be accused and punished for what I would call “misunderstanding/ hurt feeling” sexual assaults.

          3. Viking1865

            In 1957, when an Ole Miss coed got caught sneaking to the black side of town for some deep dick, she needed to go to the cops to scream rape and avoid a scandal.

            In 2017, when an Ole Miss coed gets caught cheating on her boyfriend with a black guy, she can just get the school to make her the victim of a terrible assault, thus preserving her MRS degree.

            This is called progress.

  21. MikeS

    Twenty-second!

    1. MikeS

      Dammit Tundra!

      1. Tundra

        *elaborate goal celebration*

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I’m picturing you doing the Odell Beckham

  22. The Late P Brooks

    First thing we do, let’s kill all the pollsters

    One of the worst pieces of advice that Democrats are getting is to move right on economic policy in order to win back swing voters. It tends to come from centrists who are confusing their own policy wishes with smart political advice.

    Some new survey data — which Lee Drutman highlights in an op-ed — help show how misplaced this advice is. Most swing voters lean notably left on economic policy, the data show. It’s true of people who voted for Barack Obama in 2012 but not Hillary Clinton in 2016 and even of those who switched from Mitt Romney in 2012 to Clinton in 2016.

    “Moving right on economics,” Drutman writes, “will not help Democrats with any of these voters and could even risk losing some, demoralizing an energized base, especially younger voters.”

    What does that actually mean? Who the fuck knows?

    For the “energized youngsters” I assume it means preposterous hogwash like free college,fifteen (or more) dollars an hour minimum wage, free light-speed internet and interest free loans for app store startups.

    For the more mature, sophisticated voter, I imagine it means bailing out every unfunded pension in America, especially those negotiated by public sector unions.

    1. leonadasiv

      Yes ignore the center, move away from it.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      This guy might be onto something. They could try to appeal to the gooey center, but nobody will believe them.

    3. Chipwooder

      The answer is always to prog harder

      1. WTF

        Always. It’s hilarious that they think their recent wins in two heavily blue states vindicates their strategy to prog harder.

    4. B.P.

      “It’s true of people who voted for Barack Obama in 2012 but not Hillary Clinton in 2016 and even of those who switched from Mitt Romney in 2012 to Clinton in 2016.”

      Yeah, you’re going to want to base your political fortunes on targeting the dozen or so voters who moved from Romney to Clinton.

  23. TK

    Why are all the comments on that CBS article about Joe Biden? I’m so confused. I’ve been ignoring political news for a couple weeks.

    1. straffinrun

      Yeah, that’s weird. Wrong comment thread for the article or…..?

    2. DOOMco

      They really want uncle joe to run.
      he was being pimped hard sunday night during the pats game, fuck he was involved during halftime. he was on MSNBC that monday.

      1. Suthenboy

        And the dumbass fuckin’ R’s should be out digging up the dozens of no-shit real sexual assault victims…oh, never mind. What’s the point.

  24. Brochettaward

    On The Atlantic piece about Bill – I’d have an easier time getting into the story if it didn’t gloss over how the allegation against Clarence Thomas was absolute bullshit created by the same assholes who would excuse Clinton years later. The feminists were already agents of the Dems…

    1. Chipwooder

      Plus, it’s easy to have a supposed reckoning on Bill Clinton now that it no longer affects the prospects of the Democratic Party since, despite her delusions, Hillary is never going to run for anything again. There’s no price to be paid whatsoever for piling on Bill now. It’s not as if new shit has come to light – the sordid details have been public knowledge for two decades or more. It’s just convenient and harmless now.

      1. Brett L

        Unless the Lolita Express is about to come fully to light as part of the Menendez stuff.

        1. Chipwooder

          Ooooh, good point, I forgot about that.

        2. Drake

          I don’t think so – the mainstream media has just never shown any interest in it and aren’t about to go after a Dem Senator – even one on trial for a million counts of bribery.

      2. Apples and Knives

        Yep, no longer useful.

        Irony: if Hillary had won, would any of the Hollywood accusations have come to light?

        1. Mr Lizard

          I’ve actually been wondering if the mammal with the hat and the hair called some of his buddies and got Weintein thrown under the bus. It makes a shiny distraction from the Vegas bullet-a-thon

          1. Vhyrus

            If that actually happened, my respect of his abilities would increase dramatically.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    “The nation’s leading heart experts on Monday issued new guidelines for high blood pressure that mean tens of millions more Americans will meet the criteria for the condition, and will need to change their lifestyles or take medicines to treat it.”

    Nothing to do with boosting revenues. Just some good old fashioned legwork on the cardiology beat.

    1. Unless it’s actually causing issues, in all likelihood, your blood pressure is within a range your body is accustomed to.

    2. leonadasiv

      Oops our mistake. See you were happy and healthy, but BAM just like that with our God like word, you’re unhappy and unhealthy.

      1. Tundra

        “Damn interlopers. I was here first!”

        /BMI

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        Here. Take this prescription form the latest and greatest statin to the nearest CVS, who has a sole source distribution contract!

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Wait. Statins are for cholesterol. Screw it, it still works.

          1. Private Chipperbot

            Hire this man!

          2. Tundra

            He hasn’t got the tits to be a pharmaceutical rep.

          3. R C Dean

            + 1 low-cut blouse

          4. mexican sharpshooter

            True, but you should see my ass.

          5. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            Every day, I regret my decision to not attend med school a little more. I could have been banging nurses as opposed to worrying about talking with secretaries and paralegals.

          6. Off Label Usage.

    3. Microaggressor

      Those patients ended up taking three drugs on average, instead of two, yet experienced no more side effects or complications than subjects in the other group.

      But more intensive drug treatment in so many more patients may increase rates of kidney disease, some experts fear. In the Sprint trial, the incidence of acute kidney injury was twice as high in the group receiving drugs to reduce their systolic pressure to 120.

      They can’t even keep their facts straight without contradicting themselves. I fucking hate journalists.

      I’m surprised we didn’t get a usual reminder that salt is bad. Of course the article says nothing on how diet improvements can solve the problem (good chance they would be wrong anyway), easier to just push drugs on the geezers.

  26. kinnath

    Wow, BILL Clinton is going under the bus?

    Just 25 years to late.

    1. straffinrun

      Jerome Bettis hardest hit.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    We’re all first, now.

    1. Tundra

      Not me! I’m 22nd!

      *taunts Mike S.*

      1. MikeS

        *drops gloves*

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Please, please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion!
          Let’s not bicker and argue about who posted 22nd.

          1. Badolph Hilter

            +2 huge tracts of land

  28. PieInTheSKy

    Startling Genetic Diversity Indicates That Ancient Papuans Didn’t Even Mix With Each Other

    https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/1.812694

    1. leonadasiv

      There’s a joke here somewhere, just got to work it out.

      1. Brett L

        “If she’s not good enough for her own family, she’s not good enough for our’n!”

    2. Lachowsky

      There are something like 6000 spoken languages in the world. I believe around 800 of them are Papaun.

    3. Their DJs were the worst.

    4. Suthenboy

      An island that consists of brand new impossible to climb mountains. The valleys separated by those mountain ranges may as well be on different planets.

      1. See also, sub-Saharan Africa. Large nearly uninhabitable regions, steep mountains, dense jungles. No wonder trade never flourished (and thus innovation and progress) there!

  29. leonadasiv

    I see how it is, everyone who complained gets a first today. I guess everyone’s a winner. Ya bunch of commies.

    1. bacon-magic

      ^^^

  30. straffinrun

    Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
    I will be making a major statement from the @WhiteHouse upon my return to D.C. Time and date to be set.
    3:23 PM – Nov 14, 2017

    Even his teasers are Yuuuuge.

    1. Lachowsky

      He’s defunding all federal agencies?

      1. Viking1865

        If he did that, the best part would be watching Reason trying explain why this isn’t libertarian.

  31. Tundra

    Germany Is a Coal-Burning, Gas-Guzzling Climate Change Hypocrite

    A little gift for your Euro-progs.

    Germany is Europe’s largest producer and burner of coal, which accounted for 49 percent of gross power production in 2016: 28 percent from hard coal and 21 percent from lignite, also known as brown coal, among the dirtiest of fossil fuels, which Germany mines more of than any other country in the world. Germany’s electricity sector itself is responsible for more than a third of the country’s CO2 emissions. Even more damning: Germany is still digging new open-cast mine pits — as well as subsidizing the industry as a whole, although it has promised to phase out coal in the indefinite future (hard coal use will end in 2018). Among Europe’s power plants, Germany’s brown coal stations constitute six out of 10 of the worst polluters. The lignite power plants, which run 24/7 year-in, year-out, produce so much power that German utilities sell the surplus abroad.

    Whoops!

    1. leonadasiv

      “German utilities sell the surplus abroad.”

      So this rot runs deeper than just the Germans.

      1. Tundra

        Of course. Buying it from Merkel means you can pretend to get your energy from ‘green’ sources. Put up a windmill or two, contract with Deutschland and voila! You’re green!

        Meanwhile Q is sucking particulates in New Dehli from all the burning garbage.

        Fucking frauds.

    2. Chipwooder

      But….but….they signed the almighty Paris climate treaty!!! MY WORLD NO LONGER MAKES SENSE!

      1. spqr2008

        They signed the treaty that was just to have US taxpayers foot more of the world’s bills? No WAY!!!!!

        1. Psycho Effer

          The new form of international socialism.

    3. PieInTheSKy

      But they have different bins for green/brown/colorless glass (which I always found stupid. Just the effort of collecting them separately probably outweighs whatever they think they gain by recycling)

      1. Old glass is actually a primary ingredient in new glass.

        You just can’t use tinted glass in making clear glass, so they separate by tint to make more of the same type.

        Glass and metal are the sane recycling categories, but both need to be sorted to some extent.

        1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

          And instead of doing a proper job by using a high speed optical sorting system they force people to waste time.

    4. JaimeRoberto

      I saw the power plant in that picture several years ago when I was there. There’s lots of windmills surrounding it. I couldn’t help but laugh at how green it was.

    5. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      Makes sense really, they need something for base load and they’re so crazy anti nuclear they don’t really have any other options.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    Therein lies the glaring irony: The feds can declare his ground as an ideal frog refuge and stunt the land’s commercial viability, but they cannot force Poitevent to reintroduce the dusky gopher frog on the 1,500 acres in question.

    Maybe they should offer to pay him. Were I he, I’d start the bidding at whatever the alternative best revenue stream would have been.

    1. Suthenboy

      Why would they pay him? They dont give half of a fuck about that frog. The EPA exists to destroy people’s ability to create wealth. Don’t doubt that for one second.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Wait. Statins are for cholesterol. Screw it, it still works.

    They’re tweaking that number as we speak.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Huh. Frozen water crystals are drifting out of the sky. Why was I not warned?

    1. PieInTheSKy

      No one expects snow in November. I blame global warming myself

  35. The Elite Elite

    Sad to say, Ben Shapiro has gone full retard over this Moore business.

    The first argument: Moore hasn’t been convicted of anything, and due process requires us to consider him innocent until proven guilty. This argument is empty, because our decision to vote for or against a particular candidate doesn’t require due process

    So, Ben thinks we should just assume the accusations are true with zero proof and dump Moore. Wow. I think one of the commenters in that article put it pretty well.

    Gavin Valle · Austin, Texas
    “If you say you don’t have enough evidence to make a judgment, you are judging Moore’s accusers to be not credible.”

    Hey, Benji…That’s an absolutely STUPID thing to say.

    His “accusers” have NO evidence. NONE. ZERO. But you want Moore to be “judged,” and drop-out? Or be removed? Based on unproven allegations?

    Whatever…Other than debating leftwingers on college campuses to score a few verbal zingers, you’re an absolutely useless hack for the GOPe and the Con-servative “movement.”

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Meh there are plenty of reasons to not vote for the guy.

      1. The Elite Elite

        If you’re advocating writing in Sessions instead of him, I don’t think Shapiro shares those reasons to not vote for Moore.

        1. PieInTheSKy

          Well not being USistanian I don’t advocate anything really, I would not vote for someone like this guy in general.

          1. bacon-magic

            USistanian

            *red flags made up word*

    2. Chipwooder

      I don’t know, a man in his thirties pursuing a high school girl is pretty damned skeevy even if he didn’t actually get anywhere with her.

      1. The Elite Elite

        As long as he didn’t actually molest/assault/rape her, I don’t see anything particularly skeevy about it. Plenty of relationships were the guy is two decades her senior.

        1. Chipwooder

          I have a daughter. If there were some 30something guy trying to date her when she is 14, we’re gonna have a problem.

          Yes, I know the girl’s mother was apparently fine with it. I’m just saying that *I* wouldn’t be, and I find it rather repellent.

          1. WTF

            Stop trying to exercise control over a young woman’s body and choices, shitlord!!

          2. Private Chipperbot

            Hello, Nikki!

      2. PieInTheSKy

        This amused me

        I won’t even touch whiskey till it’s 20 years old. #Iowahawk2020

        https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/930232493340549122

        1. Chipwooder

          Haha…nice. This is absolutely true as well:

          David Burge‏ @iowahawkblog · 14h14 hours ago

          Replying to @iowahawkblog

          I can’t fathom wanting to be around teenagers, for any reason

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I can’t fathom wanting to be around teenagers, for any reason

            Exactly, the desire to pursue teenagers is purely one born out of the power dynamic. If the accusations are true, Moore wasn’t seeking an equal, he was seeking someone he could dominate. It may have been perfectly legal, but it reveals his character. I find it all somewhat believable simply because Moore (like most politicians and particularly ) has always sought the spotlight and positions of power over others.

            He may be innocent of the charges, and if so, I hope he can prove it and win his defamation suit.

          2. Proof either way will be hard for something multiple decades past that was not heavily documented.

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            True

          4. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            “Wanting them around my shaft though, that’s a different story entirely…”

        2. B.P.

          “Donald Breech‏ @DonaldBreech
          11h11 hours ago
          Replying to @iowahawkblog

          Wish some dudes would use that criterion for the women they date.”

          Way to roll with the joke, Donald.

      3. I thought my wife was 17 going on 18 when we first started dating, but she was 16 going on 17. I wasn’t in my thirties, just 20 at the time.

  36. Brochettaward

    Funny, but you guys never had to show evidence that anyone in the Trump campaign colluded before you called for investigating collusion. You never even had to show evidence that Russia hacked anything. You treat the Russia ‘investigation’ as if it’s a big game of Six Degrees of Vladimir Putin. Strangely, you guys don’t much like talking about the Russian reset, but you love talking about the GOP’s platform and removal of references to Ukraine. Because that’s the same as a policy in which you bend over backwards to help the Kremlin. And don’t even whisper the name Podesta these days!

    Many of the items Goodlatte wanted investigated had long been conservative talking points, some having to do with matters many considered resolved: various decisions made in the Clinton email case, the Uranium One purchase, the “unmasking” of people by the intelligence community and allegations by Trump that he was wiretapped by his predecessors. Unmasking is a routine part of intelligence officials’ jobs; officials have said there is no evidence to support Trump’s claims that he was wiretapped; and while conservatives have sought to cast the Uranium One deal as an example of Clinton taking Russian money to influence U.S. policy, there is no evidence that Clinton participated in any discussions regarding the sale, which was approved during the Obama administration while she was secretary of state.

    That the NYT’s and Washington Post are starting to the full court press shows that they’re nervous as fuck.

    1. R C Dean

      some having to do with matters many considered resolved

      An agreement with the prosecutors to ignore it all would be a form of resolution.

    2. Lachowsky

      there is no evidence that Clinton participated in any discussions regarding the sale, which was approved during the Obama administration while she was secretary of state.

      She had to approve the deal. the secretary of state had to give her stamp of approval for the deal to go through. It doesn’t matter whether she was involved in the discussions or not. She had the power to let it go through or not. This is really simple.

      1. kbolino

        No, their defense is apparently that she was the most profoundly incompetent person to hold the office of Secretary of State, having never been briefed or instructed on any details of the State Department’s operations, up to and including the procedures for handling classified information.

        At the same time, though, she’s the most qualified person to hold the Presidency. Don’t forget that part. She is apparently subliterate and extremely well read at the same time.

    3. R C Dean

      there is no evidence that Clinton participated in any discussions regarding the sale, which was approved during the Obama administration while she was secretary of state.

      That’s their defense? That as Secretary of State Clinton had absolutely no briefings, no discussion, no involvement at all in the legally required approval of the massive sale of a big fraction of our uranium reserves to the Russians?

      Pleading guilty to negligence instead of intentional wrongdoing, I suppose. But even taking that at face value, it seems like an investigation is in order.

      1. kbolino

        Pleading guilty to negligence

        Ha! As if. If there’s one thing Clintons understand, it’s that you never admit fault.

        Besides, she didn’t intend to be negligent. Never mind that that doesn’t make any sense, negligence being a strict liability crime. And of course, the standard of intent applied to a Clinton will not be applied to one of us common rubes.

        1. Psycho Effer

          Mens rea matters only when there is (D) after your name.

      2. Psycho Effer

        Who was the real SecState then, while she was running around giving speeches and doing photo ops pretending to be?

  37. LJW

    Sucker punch

    The best part is at the very end of the video.

    1. MikeS

      Tily tily!

  38. gbob

    Well, there was some back and forth and some stress inducing delays, but as of right now I am currently Head Distiller at The Adirondack Distilling Company, located in Utica, New York! I’m going to head down there on Friday, and hit the ground running by getting product ready to ship for the holiday season. I’ll be making some great hooch, and doing what I can to help contribute to a boozy lifestyle for all.

    It’s a bit of a step up from my previous place of employment. More equipment, more staff, more resources, more problems to solve. I’m hoping I’m up to the task.

    Any Glibs happen to live in Utica?

    1. straffinrun

      God’s work. May he shine one you.

      1. Truly, the Lord’s work!

        I mean, first publicly attested miracle was whomping up booze for a party.

    2. Tundra

      Congrats and have fun!

    3. Chipwooder

      Pro tip – don’t ask where you can get a good steamed ham. They won’t know what you’re talking about – it ain’t Albany.

      1. robc

        clap clap clap.

      2. gbob

        I too have the aurora borealis in my kitchen.

        1. trshmnstr

          Are you sure you don’t just have bulbous areolas?

      3. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

        What about rum ham?

    4. Drake

      Congrats and condolences for having to live in NY.

    5. Nephilium

      Congratulations! Doesn’t look like they distribute out by me, but I’ve been trying to convince the girlfriend to take a trip to upstate New York some time (breweries for me, cideries for her). Are you going to be pushing the Empire Rye brand as well?

      1. gbob

        It’s an interesting notion. Not sure if it’s in the cards right now, since we have a pretty full plate with current production demands. I have a suspicion I might have to play around in that field.

        If you make the trip, stop by the distillery. I’ll give a personal tour.

    6. robc

      Was this the job you interviewed for a while back that got delayed?

      1. gbob

        Yup. It was a call one day, interview out there the next, offer letter the next morning….then weeks between my counter offer and their acceptance.

        It’s on me. I included too many Glib type demands. More rape at work, the demand for child labor, and the insistence on nothing but private roads between my castle and work.

    7. I have relatives in the area, but I live an hour and a half away from there.

    8. robc

      a custom-crafted copper still from Germany

      Copper still from Germany.
      Bourbon from New York.

      I’ll pass (but if I see any of the other products, I might try one).

      1. Bourbon

        I’ll pass too.

        1. Chipwooder

          That’s the same thing Napoleon said!

          1. Robespierre got a head start on that anyway.

      2. gbob

        I had the same concerns when I interviewed. You work in craft beer. You know how it is. Most of what gets poured is crap, or off style. You work for a place, but if you don’t love the hell out of the product, it’s going to suck. I’ve tasted so many terrible spirits from craft distillers, I was skeptical.

        Turns out I didn’t have to worry. I loved everything I sampled. Seems like they have quality control down…a trend I plan on continuing.

        They really do have the right equipment, and they use it properly.

        If you’re ever in upstate, stop on by. I’ll try to change your mind the only way I know how…by pouring what I make!

        1. So, how do you take you up on that offer?

          1. gbob

            We need a PM option on here.

            Any Glibs want a personal tour in a month or so once I get set up, shoot me an e-mail at b o b r o l a n d @ g m a i l .com (obviously, no spaces!)

          2. All right. I’ll think about pestering you some time in the new year.

        2. robc

          The equipment comment was because I am friends with the owners of a copper company here in KY. I like when I see their stuff in distilleries.

          1. B.P.

            Vendome?

        3. robc

          It seems unlikely, but the next and first time I am in Utica, I will stop by.

    9. bacon-magic

      Congrats!

    10. Brett L

      Congratulations.

    11. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Congratulations. Remember to sample the product on a regular basis.

      1. gbob

        Part of the job, man. Only tough livers need apply.

        1. spqr2008

          Will have to see if you guys distribute around me, and pick up some of the bourbon.

    12. mexican sharpshooter

      I have passed through the area, but not willing to live there. Good luck with your rum running.

    13. totally_not_an_escaped_ai

      Found a nice write-up Of the place
      http://www.breakingbourbon.com/adirondack-distilling-company-tour.html

      Their gin sounds awesome. And it’s gluten free!

      Congrats on the job.

      1. gbob

        Great find!

    14. B.P.

      I grew up about 40 minutes away from Utica. It’s….. a town.

    15. TK

      If you need any orphans, I can sell you some in return for a steady supply of spirits. They are a bit spoiled since I’ve been giving them 4 minute breaks every 12 hours, but I’m sure you can make adjustments if needed.

    16. Apples and Knives

      I spent a weekend there when I was working in Syracuse, since the hotel I was staying in had been booked for Syracuse graduation over a year in advance. It’s close to Cooperstown, so it’s got that going on for it, but I didn’t do much exploring outside my hotel room. If I ever go back to upstate NY, I’ll stop in.

      On a related note, I spent the previous Sunday doing a counter-clockwise tour of Seneca Lake breweries with a couple work friends. It was an all day affair. When we got back to the hotel, we added up the number of breweries we visited. It was ten, with a couple beers or a flight at each. I wasn’t driving but that day was the highlight of my time in upstate.

  39. commodious spittoon

    Outlook refuses to play nice on mobile browser, insists I download app. App can’t connect to the server my college runs on the Outlook platform.

    I mean, I suppose it makes sense, but ffs.

  40. wdalasio

    The party was on the wrong side of history and there are consequences for that. Yet expedience is not the only reason to make this public accounting. If it is possible for politics and moral behavior to coexist, then this grave wrong needs to be acknowledged.

    Here’s my problem with this. Politically, Bill Clinton is effectively dead. And people like Flanagan now demanding an account are implicitly now acknowledging their own culpability and dishonesty in covering up his behavior. And now they’re saying that the world should trust them? Why? Because you gave up some old coot who is no longer politically useful to you?

    How about this. If feminists are really now sorry for lying and covering for Bill Clinton’s sexual predation, how about they demand a full investigation of every officeholder in their party. If you really don’t want any more Bill Clintons, how about making sure that the the Bill Clintons remaining or rising in your party get caught and eliminated.

    1. The Other Kevin

      Yet nobody says anything about Biden’s creepy on-camera episodes. Because he’s still active in politics and might run for president.

      1. one true athena

        I watched a compilation video of his greatest hits of creepy hair sniffing. If he runs in 2020 they better play that in a loop.

  41. tarran

    Update on my doggie.

    So far tests have found elevated liver enzymes. Still waiting on the cultures back to see if she has an UTI. The vet put her on amoxycilin anyway.

    She’s doing much better. Only peed in her diaper once in the past 12 hours.

    She’s rocking the diapers BTW. Doesn’t like them, but puts on a dignified front.

    1. Tundra

      Great news! We went through one heat with our GSD and that experience with doggie diapers was more than enough.

      Good luck!

    2. Chipwooder

      Have they checked for bladder stones? That caused peeing problems in both my dogs.

      1. tarran

        Yes. Her bladder looks fine.

        My money is on urinary incontinence due to spaying. We had her spayed a month ago, and she started having accidents about a week later, at first occasionally, then increasingly frequently with each passing week.

        Supposedly low estrogen levels weaken the sphincter muscles in female dogs. And the treatment is hormone therapy.

        But it could be a bunch of other things. The liver stuff is apparently a symptom of a parva infection.

    3. LJW

      Good to hear. My dog had a pancreatic enzyme deficiency a while back (diarrhea everywhere). I know how stressful it can be trying to figure out what’s wrong while dealing with cleanup.

  42. TK

    Slow links this morning. Are we going to get a special cooking article/thread for Thanksgiving? I’d love to see what my fellow glibs are cooking up this season.

    1. I should finish writing up that UnCivil Cooks article I’d already taken the pictures for…

    2. Brett L

      We’ll push this starting in the afternoon. Everyone submit your favorite Thanskgiving dishes/drinks to submit@glibertarians.com and we’ll start publishing them Thursday or Friday as long as we have some to publish or through Tuesday.

      Brilliant idea, beloved commenter TK!

      1. Chipwooder

        I’m gonna give my peanut soup recipe, and there’s nothing you haters can do to stop me.

        1. Brett L

          Down here when we boil peanuts, we just call them boiled peanuts.

          1. Chipwooder

            oh dear lord…..my grandma, rest her soul, was born and raised in rural Georgia and ate those things by the bushel *shuddering*

      2. TK

        Sweet, I’ll submit my super easy and delicious pot roast recipe!

      3. R C Dean

        Thanksgiving cocktail recipe just emailed in.

        1. Chipwooder

          Chugging whiskey from the bottle is a recipe?

          1. Well, he does decant it into used beer bottles…

          2. R C Dean

            Hey, I wash them first. Geez.

      4. Nephilium

        Just sent you in a dessert recipe. This is really just a way to crowdsource your Thanksgiving menu, isn’t it?

      5. Pope Jimbo

        Uffda. You can probably get 3 or 4 articles just on green bean hotdish alone!

        Amirite, MikeS?

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      I’m going to deep fry a turkey. It is dangerous and no propane fryer is UL rated, but it frees up precious oven space. I brine it overnight in candied ginger, kosher salt, rosemary, thyme, paprika and lemons.

      1. Tundra

        I’m doing two. One on the rotisserie and one spatchcocked (greatest word ever!) over charcoal.

        Both will be fresh and dry-brined.

      2. Nephilium

        I deal with the oven space issue by prepping most of the side dishes during the week, and then just saving the last baking step for the day of the big event. Once the turkey comes out of the oven and gets set aside to rest, the side dishes go in, and I get to work on making gravy.

        1. Unsurprisingly, my solution is to have no guests.

          Though if my war on mice is not more successful by then, I might have uninvited muscine visitors.

          1. Nephilium

            If I didn’t host, then the parents would, and my parents cannot cook. Then I would also need to go to the girlfriend’s family event, with more mediocre food (or even worse, going to a country club). I enjoy cooking, so hosting is a small price to pay for a good meal, and access to my own alcohol stores.

          2. trshmnstr

            Would you like to borrow a couple cats? Your rodent issues will be cleared up in a week.

          3. I’ve thought of that, but I’d need to get additional secure storage containers for my 40k minis before I let a cat roam the shelving in my house. (I have no idea how many dollars I spent or hours of painting that collection represents, I can’t have a cat knocking pieces from shelves and breaking them)

          4. TK

            *eyes UCS’ 40k collection*

            *slowly paws figure closest to edge of shelf*

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          We do that too. I have a pretty large kitchen, but a small, cabinet mounted oven.

  43. Brochettaward

    Press, even if it’s the Daily Mail, continues to dutifully report the story put forward by Boucher’s defense attorney:

    The ‘socialist’ doctor charged with cracking Senator Rand Paul’s ribs in a crunching blindside tackle may have harbored a secret grudge against his GOP neighbor for spoiling his lakeside views and ‘devaluing’ his home, DailyMail.com can reveal.

    Rene Boucher, 59, told Paul in the wake of the mauling that he hadn’t been able to sell his $740,000 house for ten years because the congressman’s trees were ‘in the way’.

    It’s believed Boucher was referring to woodland at the back of Paul’s property that blocks the doctor’s views of the picturesque private lake that forms the centerpiece of their upscale gated community.

    1. Tundra

      Lol. Should have bought both lots, cheapskate!

      1. Tundra

        Oh, and bullshit on the story. This was a psycho proggie all the way.

        1. wdalasio

          Yup. I’m calling bullshit on this. This isn’t even consistent with the narrative that Boucher and his allies are trying to push. Removing the trees would be a big HOA no-no. Now they’re expecting us to believe that they were angry with Paul for not going against the HOA planning process.

          They’re scrambling here.

          1. Chipwooder

            And, as I posted below, Rand has never spoken to this guy, so this story rests on the idea that this guy chose to violently attack a neighbor over trees without ever talking to said neighbor about them.

            I’ll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.

      2. R C Dean

        If you want a lake view, buy a lot with a lake view, ya feckin’ idjit.

        Say, when are the upgraded charges and federal charges going to be filed? What are they waiting on?

        1. DOOMco

          I really don’t know why they haven’t. Has Trump said anything on it?
          although, maybe that would only hurt the cause.

          that’s not the right phrase. there’s no cause…

        2. WTF

          Since Paul is an evil Republican who leans libertarian, there will be no upgraded charges, because it’s okay to attack “fascists”.

          1. R C Dean

            Paul also has a civil suit he can file here, as well. Doubt he will, but I damn sure would. File it, push for an aggressive discovery schedule, and subpoena the doc. If nothing else, it would put pressure on the prosecutors to get off their ass.

            And, if he plays his cards right, he could wind up owning his neighbor’s house.

            he hadn’t been able to sell his $740,000 house for ten years

            That means its not worth $740,000, dumbass.

          2. Psycho Effer

            If Paul files suit, his attacker won’t have to worry about selling that house anymore. The bank will sell it for him when he declares bankruptcy. I’m betting that he owes more than $740k on that house from using it as a credit card.

    2. DOOMco

      bull shit.

    3. robc

      If this is true, then the image I linked to the other day of which house was which isn’t correct. Which is possible, google maps are questionable on addresses sometimes.

      1. robc

        I found the houses based on photos from Daily Fail, Paul’s are slumming it in that neighborhood.

    4. Chipwooder

      Rand has already said he has basically never spoken to this guy.

      The two-term senator said that he hasn’t talked to Boucher in a decade. “My first encounter was basically being hit in the back,” he said. “We’ve never had words over anything, we’ve never had a dispute or discussion or words,” added Paul

      So, yeah, the “neighbor dispute” story is total horseshit. This was entirely political in nature.

    5. R C Dean

      Rene Boucher, 59, told Paul in the wake of the mauling that he hadn’t been able to sell his $740,000 house for ten years because the congressman’s trees were ‘in the way’.

      Really? According to who? Did Paul say that? Did Boucher? Who else would have been in a position to hear?

      1. commodious spittoon

        Just his lawyer, who’ll be rowing hard on that sort of claim.

        “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client is no political assailant clad in a black mask or wielding an improvised weapon, like we’ve lately seen on the television. My client is simply an unremarkable, everyday psycho.”

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Muh DIVERSUTEEE!

    So far, 91 percent of Trump’s nominees are white, and 81 percent are male, an Associated Press analysis has found. Three of every four are white men, with few African-Americans and Hispanics in the mix. The last president to nominate a similarly homogenous group was George H.W. Bush.

    The shift could prove to be one of Trump’s most enduring legacies. These are lifetime appointments, and Trump has inherited both an unusually high number of vacancies and an aging population of judges. That puts him in position to significantly reshape the courts that decide thousands of civil rights, environmental, criminal justice and other disputes across the country. The White House has been upfront about its plans to quickly fill the seats with conservatives, and has made clear that judicial philosophy tops any concerns about shrinking racial or gender diversity.

    Who gives a shit about actual qualifications and respect for the Constitution?

    NEEDZ MOAR VAGEZ

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Maybe Trump is just worried about the safety of any women he nominates to the bench?

      After all of the #MeToo stories, it is clear that any woman working outside of the home is going to be assaulted. Why subject good women to that?

      1. For safety’s sake they need to hide from the male gaze, maybe with some sort of protective barrier to toxic masculinity. Perhaps some sort of total body covering that might conceal them from the hostile aura of the patriarchy.

  45. The Late P Brooks

    Well, there was some back and forth and some stress inducing delays, but as of right now I am currently Head Distiller at The Adirondack Distilling Company, located in Utica, New York!

    Sweet.

  46. Ken Shultz

    Someone up yonder mentioned Ben Shapiro going full retard over Roy Moore, but if that’s full retard, what do you call Nick Gillespie’s take?

    Roy Moore and the End of Republican Credibility
    Can the conservative movement survive the election of a possible child molester?
    Nick Gillespie|November 13, 2017 9:56 pm

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Obviously the Democrats can survive the experience.

      1. Chipwooder

        Hey, we already had a mention of Gerry Studds in today’s comments!

        1. commodious spittoon

          Or Anthony Weiner, for that matter.

      2. Ken Shultz

        Republican credibility survived everything else the Republicans did, but a nominee in Alabama did what out of control spending, TARP, the failure to repeal or replace ObamaCare, the Iraq War, etc. all failed to do?

        It’s ridiculous to think that conservatism or the Republicans have met any kind of end because or Roy Moore.

        Patently ridiculous–and Gillespie knows that. He’s trolling.

        I guess that’s what lies beyond going “full retard”–trolling.

    2. WTF

      I find the rush to destroy a man’s life and career over unsubstantiated accusations, from nearly 40 years ago, disturbing. There was never any hint of anything for nearly 40 years, then suddenly an accusation just happens to be dug up by the Wapo, a Democrat party organ, right before an election? And now the involvement of Gloria Allred further strains credibility.

      1. Urthona

        Isn’t there more than one now? Starting to look pretty bad actually.

      2. Viking1865

        The first accuser is of course a diehard Democrat who is a supporter of Moore’s opponent.

        I think the whole thing is horseshit honestly, because Moore has been a SoCon darling/enemy of the Left for over a decade. If they had something on him, they would have taken him down a decade ago.

        This is a Dem/RINO op to keep the Rand Paul wing from having the votes to actually repeal Obamacare and do other actually conservative things.

        1. Urthona

          I thought so at first, but they’re starting to drag out a lot of well known people who say that he’s a creep who stalked teenagers. Whether or not it really got further then that, he’s starting to look like a creepy dude.

          1. Urthona

            Umm… not “well known’. I’m drunk today.

          2. Viking1865

            Fine, but as I said earlier: this guy has been a public figure for a decade. How come this is just coming out now?

            It’s like with the Trump accusers in the month before the election: Dude has been a national celebrity for 30 years, and now all of a sudden out come the accusers. Or how Trump, who has rubbed elbows with Sharpton and company for decades, all of a sudden became a virulent racist the second he became the GOP nominee.

            The whole thing is a last ditch effort to deny the Rand/Lee wing another vote in the Senate. This is about the swamp protecting their gravy train.

            Shit, the AL state government said something today about if Moore won the election without GOP approval, that the election would be null and void, which is less mask than they usually use when they say “Fuck you peasants, do as you’re told.”

          3. peachy rex

            Precisely. The left would have been absolutely overjoyed to accuse the ten commandments guy of being a pedo – what an amazing ironic twist! – yet they didn’t. Perhaps there’s a reason.

          4. Psycho Effer

            I think a lot of this due to the “you must believe all womyn” climate we live in now. I doubt this would be happening if this guy were running in 2014.

    3. F. Stupidity Jr.

      Two searches at Reason.com:

      Bob Menendez

      Page one has 31 results, the first 2 are from 2017. Number three is from 2015.

      Roy Moore

      Page one has 30 results, the first 23 are from 2017.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    if that’s full retard, what do you call Nick Gillespie’s take?

    Tuesday.

      1. Chipwooder

        The classic end-of-the-party song. Play it anywhere, and watch people start leaving.

  48. Raven Nation

    Actual published s-f story on “How to Punch Nazis.”:

    http://dailysciencefiction.com/science-fiction/time-travel/alex-shvartsman/the-practical-guide-to-punching-nazis

    Author comments: “When a video of a certain unpalatable racist getting punched in the face by an anonymous vigilante appeared online and was subsequently turned into a meme, I freely admit to having watched that meme; on repeat and with schadenfreude.”

    This publication site is listed as qualifying for SFWA membership qualifications.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Eh. I’ll admit to enjoying watching that antifa douche getting his nads caved in with a tear gas grenade. Granted, that guy had kicked a grenade back at police, whereas Spencer was standing on a street corner giving an interview.

      1. Chipwooder

        Moldilocks getting decked was amusing, too

        1. It’s always amusing when someone sets out to inflict violence finds out they are unprepared for it.

          1. Chipwooder

            Precisely

          2. Sean

            Agreed.

          3. Vhyrus

            This needs to be an iron law.

        2. commodious spittoon

          I wasn’t too thrilled about that hit until I looked it up just now and saw she had what looks like a large, empty Jameson bottle. Snopes, of course, claims it’s “mostly false” that she was wielding it as a weapon. I suppose she was one of those extremist recyclers that always show up at riots trying to collect glassware.

          1. Vhyrus

            She came with a whole messenger bag full of bottles she was going to break over people’s heads. She even claimed online she was going to take 100 nazi scalps. That bitch went looking for a fight and she fucking found it.

          2. commodious spittoon

            Exactly! And after she’d seen them deposited at the glass recyclery at the edge of town, she was headed to a soup kitchen to feed some of Berkeley’s hungry homeless.

          3. thepasswordispassword

            Wasn’t she also wearing (illegal in Californistan) sap gloves?

          4. Oh, I always carry large, empty glass bottles around with me when I protest, just in case I wind up getting shanghaied, the ship wrecks, and I’m stranded on an island in the Pacific with a pad of paper and a pen or pencil and need to write an SOS.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    The two-term senator said that he hasn’t talked to Boucher in a decade.

    This is the sort of slight which preys on one’s mind, over the years. The man was gradually consumed by unrequited desire, until he snapped. Who can blame him?

    1. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

      His only crime was passion.

  50. Tits ahoy!

    https://archive.is/TMHsX

    Too many good ones to pick even a few. Given the choice between the invention of bikinis and the discovery of the polio vaccine, you’d have to be an idiot to not prefer bikinis.

    1. Thankfully, the two were not mutually exclusive options for society.

    2. Tundra

      No need to go past 1. Fit, pretty and a great setting – perfect submission.

      How’s India?

      1. Smelly. Chaotic. Polluted.

        That said, my coworkers here are wonderful. Great food so far. Nice hotel. Strikes and gutters, man.

        1. Gilmore

          in 2007, my little 3 person research team was supposed to go to india and russia w/ one of the companies we covered. i had to skip the india trip, but went on the moscow one.

          One of the guys who went to india came back and said, “the scale of poverty left me speechless”. He was basically like, “i’ll never look at an industrial area, or a ‘bad (poor) neighborhood’ in the US the same way again. its just not the same thing”. Something about India got under his skin. the masses of poor as fuck people crowding constantly. it *did* make him more of an ardent capitalist, fwiw. he was the leftiest guy in our group. many people over there said the biggest barrier to improving poverty was overcoming the corruption and stupidity of their socialist-leaning leadership.

          1. Tundra

            I’m told the caste system is alive and well, too.

          2. Chipwooder

            I had a bit of the same experience in Uzbekistan. Seeing what life is like in a truly poor country makes poverty in the US look like Disneyland in comparison.

    3. PieInTheSKy

      way above average talent there noice

  51. F. Stupidity Jr.

    “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.”

    POLITICAL RESPONSES

    Democrats
    “We need more water-drinking training programs as well as a new horse-hydration tax. Opponents of these measures surely want horses to die of thirst.”

    Republicans
    “In today’s volatile world with its unprecedented threats, that horse is vulnerable to terrorist attacks and is thus afraid to drink. Our military is ill-equipped to handle 21st century threats to his well-being. We need to shore up our underfunded and inadequate defense force.”

    Libertarians
    “Well, he doesn’t want to drink. What’re ya gonna do?”

    Progressives
    “If this horse doesn’t want to drink, no one anywhere should have water. It’s only fair.”

    Greens
    “Obviously, he doesn’t want to drink Monsanto-owned Frankenwater tainted by fracking.”

    1. Post communists:
      “What Horse? Don’t worry about some silly horse – we just got a shipment of totally authentic beef in.”

      1. Current Communists:

        “The horse is clearly a wrecker and is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the proletariat by hording water for its own selfish purposes. Kill it!”

    2. Here’s your alternative Progressive take:

      “The horse isn’t really in a position to judge for himself whether he should drink the water or not because years of living in a society that oppresses horses puts him at a disadvantage. If we left it up to him, he’d die of dehydration. Clearly, we need common sense drinking regulations, including laws mandating trough placement and a committee of equine hydration experts to determine the daily optimum amount of water. We’ll also need a group to make sure that the committee is diverse, and is sensitive to horse cultural values and respects the horse contribution to society.”

  52. commodious spittoon

    Moore didn’t acquit himself well in the Hannity interview, and he doesn’t explicitly deny dating teenage girls (though he does vehemently deny the rougher allegations). Some of you folks were of age in the late seventies, early eighties when Moore’s liaisons are alleged to have occurred. How would it have been regarded at the time?

    1. Chipwooder

      Well, if Manhattan is any indication, maybe not a big deal?

      1. R C Dean

        I’m sure there’s some people who waved off Woody Allen’s obsession with a teenager who are howling about Moore’s social life.

    2. robc

      The Jerry Lee Lewis scandal was 1958.

      1. robc

        And, to me surprise, he is still alive.

        1. JaimeRoberto

          Is he hanging out with Lou Reed?

      2. Gerry Rigg

        Wasn’t a big part of that scandal the fact of the girl being his cousin?

        1. Chipwooder

          Yes, she was his first cousin I believe.

    3. F. Stupidity Jr.

      I was only four at the end of the seventies, but there seems to be a relaxed attitude toward jailbait in those years if certain pop culture works from the period are to be believed.

      1. Chipwooder

        Probably so. I’m a year younger than you, so I don’t have first-hand knowledge, but in addition to Manhattan, which I mentioned above, there was Night Moves, in which a 17 year old Melanie Griffith (playing a 16 year old) has several nude scenes. Can’t imagine that happening now.

  53. Chipwooder

    Aw, man, Higgins died. Best fake Englishman ever!

  54. Ken Shultz

    U.S. authorities approved the world’s first digital drug, an antipsychotic pill that signals smartphones once it reaches the gut so doctors can track whether patients are taking their medication.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/fda-approves-worlds-first-digital-drug-1510621146

    “Digital Pills That Talk to Your Doctor Are Here”
    Japan’s Otsuka Pharmaceutical spent years testing the drug with Proteus Digital Health
    By Preetika Rana
    Updated Nov. 13, 2017 11:40 p.m. ET

    I was writing elsewhere today about how the government could make gun owners’ lives miserable sans confiscation with things like driver’s license renewals, child custody cases, no-fly lists, not letting people who haven’t turned in their guns live near schools or playgrounds, making people’s gun ownership status searchable by employers, etc.

    This is another technology that’s ripe for abuse.

    Having worked in a lock down, mental health facility, my worst nightmare is being locked up in a mental hospital. There’s something especially horrifying to this libertarian about being stripped of your agency that way. It’s sort of like the “It’s a Cookbook” Twilight Zone episode, where you see people being treated as food. I suppose the shock at that particular kind of horrific realization has worn off with the popularity of zombie movies, but imagine if that sort of horror were novel and real. That’s what it feels like to see people stripped of their agency. That people admit themselves into such facilities is amazing. These are people who have been convinced to sign away their own agency.

    The rest were people who were locked not just against their will, but in a situation where their will is no longer considered relevant. Prison conditions may be worse, but at least they’re locked up and treated that way because of the decisions they made–not treated as if their choices are no longer relevant.

    I’d expect this technology could be used for all sorts of evil. If I were a sick freak like Kim Jong-un, I might put the whole country on anti-anxiety medication.

    Keep those emotional levels evened out.

    The future keeps looking like it sucks. As a general rule, the things our government does to us seems to be more limited by cost and technology than anything else–including the Constitution. I guess the buck stops with what the American people will tolerate, but I’m not real optimistic about them holding the government accountable or sticking up for their rights. They can make healthy people buy health insurance and eat broccoli. Can they make us take medication?

    The answer will soon be, “Yes, they can”. The new question is only if they’ll do so.

    What will they do when they know you didn’t take your methadone?

    Get a warrant?

  55. The Late P Brooks

    She-ro

    A Virginia cyclist who was photographed extending her middle finger at President Trump’s motorcade as it drove past her last month has lost her job because of the gesture, she said on Monday.

    ————-

    Steve Herman, the White House bureau chief for Voice of America, posted an image captured by an Agence France-Presse photographer on his Twitter timeline.

    It was soon embraced by Trump critics. Ms. Briskman said she became aware of the photograph the next day, when Indivisible Loudoun ACTION, an anti-Trump Facebook group, posted Mr. Herman’s tweet and asked, “Who is this?” Ms. Briskman replied in the comments section that she was the cyclist.

    “Then the ball started rolling,” she said. “And it started getting a lot of traction.” She said she kept track of the tens of thousands of times that the photograph was shared from Mr. Herman’s timeline. Jimmy Fallon featured a segment showing the image, she said. And Ms. Briskman was referred to online as a “She-ro.”

    What do you mean, “actions have consequences”? Sometimes anonymity is its own reward.

    I don’t think she should have been fired, any more than I think she should have been fired if she flipped off motorcades carting Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton around. I’m sure there are at least a hundred thousand people who have flipped off official motorcades in that part of the country, whether because of political conviction or just wanting to get to the grocery store. Big fucking deal.

    1. Chipwooder

      I agree. On the other hand…..it’s a damned shame that the left doesn’t like the new rules they’ve brought about.

      Also, I may be mistaken, but didn’t she post the picture on her own social media, which violated her employer’s social media policy and was the actual cause for her termination?

    2. R C Dean

      I don’t think she should have been fired,

      Close(ish) call, but I think firing her is defensible, given that she took credit for it online and thus exposed her company to bad publicity. If she’d kept her yap shut, I’d be more likely to write it off as just a momentary loss of impulse control.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Never mind politics, I’d flip off a motorcade for tying up traffic.

      2. If I worked for a contractor and flipped off the CEO of the company who hired us, and especially if I made a big, vocal deal of it, I’d be fired. Hell, I actually work indirectly for a government agency. If I did what she did to an Obama motorcade I’d be fired before I got off the bike and shunned by all of my co-workers as a vile racist. The only reason this is getting the kind of spin it’s getting is because the people reporting it are hostile to Trump.

    3. Raven Nation

      Hmm, this was discussed a week ago and, at the time, the narrative was different. The original stories said she posted it on her own social media (Twitter or FB, don’t remember which) and her employer fired her for violating her employment contract which forbade employees posting “obscene” images on their social media pages.

  56. The Late P Brooks

    Also-

    She kept her arm up until the rest of the fleet passed and then repeated the gesture a second time when the cars came to a stop and she caught up. She said she locked eyes with a man inside who she thought was a Secret Service agent, and then held the gaze of another man, but then the cars moved past her and drove away.

    That “Secret Service” guy was probably responding with the international sign language signal for jacking off, and she just couldn’t see it.

  57. The Late P Brooks

    You can certainly make a compelling case for termination for bringing her employer into disrepute, especially because she works for a federal contractor, but I’m more inclined to say, “Jesus, try to act like a grownup in the future. Write the man a note of apology.”

    1. R C Dean

      “Write the man a sincere note of apology and post it on your social media. Or, be fired. Your call.”

      I like this better than just firing her. Of course, I’d also fire her if her apology was a non-apology (“I’m so sorry your giant fragile ego was butthurt by my totally justified expression of contempt for your bigoted, hateful self.”)

      1. Raston Bot

        She was an activist who picketed the CIA. Probably a real joy in the office. I’m guessing her violation of policy was a gift to the managers at that company who were already girding their loins in preparation for jumping on any flimsy excuse to fire her ass.

        1. trshmnstr

          Queue up the wrongful termination lawsuit.

  58. The Late P Brooks

    re: Moore

    How would it have been regarded at the time?

    One thing we might want to keep in mind is that back in the stone age, every single personal interaction was not presumptively sexual. One example which may or may not be germane; scout troop leaders were not all regarded as pederasts merely because they spent a lot of time in the company of teenage boys.